UN Women: All your nations are belong to us | HBR Talk 374

UN Women’s complaints about the manosphere include typical mischaracterizations, and a familiar plan of attack. Tonight we’re going to do a bit more looking into another of the sources from their recent report, “What is the manosphere and why should we care?” We may also get to UN women’s follow-up article on “how to counter the manosphere.” Eventually. :)

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three seventy four. You
and women, all in your nations are belonging to us.
I'm your host, Hannah Wallen, here with nonsense. Well nonsense
annihilator Lauren B. Might not be here yet, and we
don't know if she is unable to be here. Sometimes
she gets stuck in traffic. So we hopefully nonsense annihilator

(00:24):
Lauren B will be here shortly. But if not, we
do have Mike Stevenson, the the personification of perceptivity, our
own doctor Randam mccam, who likes to tell you he's
not a real doctor, but I don't know. I think
it is better than what.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm not even a real perceptor of perceptivity. Sorry, break
the illusion.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Whatever, Nah, I think you might be better than real doctors.
I've gotten better medical advice from you than real doctors
of late.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I cannot confirm this without breaking you. I'm afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh, I know, I know. But in any case, so
we also have the doge in charge in the background
making things happen that I still don't haven't haven't taken
the time to figure out how to make happen. So uh,
but I am I am stepping into the twenty first century. Now.
I I just replaced my computer. I haven't gotten it

(01:22):
set up yet for the show because I have like
twelve years worth of stuff that I got to transfer
from this this old computer. When you when you let
your equipment get really outdated, one of the drawbacks of
that is if I buy, say a a drive to

(01:43):
transfer everything too from the hard drives on the desktop
computer that I have that is so old that I
can't upgrade from System eight, they won't work with it.
The drivers that won't run the drivers, So I have
to have an older drive because the newer equipment will
work with some of the older drives. I have to

(02:05):
go through and possibly even try attaching the laptop directly
to the computer instead of attaching a hard drive, because
it's been a pain in the butt. I've tried with
two and they won't It won't boot them up because

(02:27):
it's too old and they're too new.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Why do we even need Windows eleven? Like, are they
going to be viruses that only target Windows ten and below?
I don't think so, that's that's not how viruses work.
They specifically attack the latest technology. So why do we
need Windows eleven? Is it because Windows ten or below
would just stop working for the particular fucking reason. Ah

(02:52):
hey you.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
All, yeah, well we know the answer to that, right,
because Windows eleven makes your compute not your property anymore.
But yeah, so, uh well this is this is what
I used.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
To say about Max, that the reason they're not called
PCs is because they're not personal computers. They don't belong
to you. They belonged to Apple. But the same applies
to PCs. They're not personal computers anymore. They belonged to
Bill fucking Gates. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Apple was doing that all along, and and it was
very profitable for them, and I think Bill Gates kind
of looked at that when I could be making more money.
You know, a lot of a lot of software does
the same thing. Like when I started learning to use Photoshop.
You bought Photoshop, you registered it, it worked on your computer.

(03:46):
You you installed the application on your computer, and it
ran on your computer. You did not have to have
an online connection to use it or anything. And now
a lot of software you buy the software and it
gives you access to a server where the software, where
the application is and you can't you can't use it

(04:09):
now without an Internet connection, which is, in my opinion,
is pretty bogus. Sorry to go all gen X on you,
but that's no.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Everyone in our audience knows what we're talking about because
we're all techno nes. I have a ten year old
Surface Pro three, which is a Microsoft computer, and a
ten year old MacBook and it's a race against time
to see which one of them just breaks down first
from not being able to have the new technology. And

(04:44):
you know, my money's on the Surface Pro three breaking
down first. But we'll see, we'll see what happens. We'll
see which one of these companies is going to screw
us over the first and force us to buy new hardware.
And I hope it's not fucking Apple, because because my
MacBook like costs a grand and and and and my

(05:07):
surface broke Cross cost three hundred quid I think it
was like ten years ago, neither of which I can
afford to replace. So please give me money, folks, or
I will be broke forever. There's no links on this
channel to how you can pay me, but fucking find them, please,
because I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna fucking die several deaths.

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(07:20):
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Honey for the Badgers, thanks for the thought provoking discussion
or conversation and creating a record of how long all
the feminist bullshit has been going on? And yeah, it's

(07:42):
been been going on for quite a while, even before
I had my first computer. We've been talking about, you know,
the the headaches of modern computers. It actually miss makes
me miss the day when the time period when you know,
I used to I used to use a Commodore sixty

(08:03):
four and you had to have six different discs to
run a program. All some programs, games in particular, took
to have six different floppies.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
And one remembers when discs were actually.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Floppy floppy yeah and big too, like they were they were.
They were way bigger than the the much later like
harder versions. It was really hard for me to call
those floppies once they were encased like that. I understand
why they did it, Okay, So I uh. I had

(08:42):
a teacher at a a summer camp, day camp that
I went to for for nerds, that was trying to
explain to all of us, who many of us actually
already had computers at home and were using floppy discs.
Here's how you insert that. She she was like, it

(09:02):
even has a convenient spot for your thumb and finger,
and she put them over that little window where the
disc is exposed, uh, and to hold the disk. And
half the room just went, oh no, because you know
you can damage it doing that, and she did. The

(09:23):
program didn't run, and they they ended up having to
do something else with the with class.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
But in the meantime, we talked, we talked amongst ourselves.
I remember those days when when the program was trying
to load and then it didn't load. But we can
get all that annoyed. We just talked, talked amongst ourselves,
whereas nowadays, if the internet is like half as slow,
like half as fast as it should be, we all

(09:50):
kind of sit there and co going, motherfucker, come the
fuck on. And it's like it's like kids who are
addicted to TV when the TV gets turned off, No, no,
make it start. Yeah. Back in those days, we did
have those problems, but you know, we still had we

(10:11):
still had the other end where we could be like, oh, yeah,
there is a world outside computers. If the computers not loading,
we can do something else. We're playing fucking scrabble or triple.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
And and by the way, if this woman's hands had
been clean, she wouldn't have done any damage. But you just, yeah,
you just can't. You can't get goo on a like that.
That's the bad thing. That's one of the reasons why
my hands are such a mess. I wash my hands
a lot, and always have been, because I've always handled

(10:51):
stuff like that, or I've handled film for cameras. Thirty
five millimeter film did a lot of darkroom development when
I was younger and such handle the equipment, which you
always want your your hands clean when you're handling any
kind of photography or video equipment because anything that gets
inside all the little mechanisms in there are very small

(11:13):
and hard to clean. I've opened them up and cleaned them,
so I know, and so therefore you really want to
keep your hands clean, and that that that's part of
what caught me labeled o CD Bye Bye Bye doctor,

(11:34):
was that I'm meticulous about keeping my hands clean and
i absolutely hate having anything on them because I'm afraid
I'm going to get it on important stuff when I
touch it. But it's different when you're handling things that
get ruined if you get dirt on them even once,
like photographs and film and you know, floppy disks and

(11:56):
sometimes cameras and stuff like that a computer. But yeah,
in any case, we will get to the meat of
the discussion. Hopefully Laura will get here. Lauren comes here
straight from work and she does commute in an area
where traffic just sucks bigger.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Two hours earlier on Thursday. Yeah, and yeah, so I'm
gonna start getting worried quite soon.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
She's had this happen before, where traffic sucks on a
particular day and it actually takes her more than two
hours to get home. So I'll get worried. If it's
you know, later in the show and we can't get
a hold of her or something, then that'll be a
different story. But I've seen her have this problem before

(12:54):
in like traffic in the in between the two states
that she goes between is just it can be a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
It's the outskirts of New York traffic. So I'm always worried.
Maybe she's dead. She's probably dead. I should probably not
making plans for if she's dead.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh God, yes, she's not all it. All it takes
is for her to get stuck in the line of
traffic but behind somebody else's fuck up, and and it
takes it takes three times as long to get home.
I mean, I'm in Dayton, which is like tiny in
comparison to New York. Right, it's a it's a city,

(13:36):
and it's considered a big city, but it's not considered
a big city if you put it next to New York.
And we have that happen with traffic here sometimes, especially
around a malfunction junction, which is like basically the section
of I seventy five that runs through the Dayton metro area.
All it takes is one car to break down on

(13:57):
the road, and traffic is immensely slow down, and you know,
you don't even there doesn't even have to be an accident.
All there has to be is somebody stalled out and
you get the rubberneckers slow everybody else down. So yeah,
it's there's a there's a thousand reasons why Lauren could

(14:18):
be late that don't involve any any anything bad for
anything bad for Lauren, just annoyances. But in any case,
we won't find out until we talk to her when
she gets home, which she will. So in any case,

(14:40):
what we've been talking to up to this point, we've
been talking to Oh yeah, iss Night Motorcyclists. ICE is
starting to operate in New York City. Well, they're gonna
know Lauren's in America in the minute that they hear
her accents, so she does not sound like she came
from South America. But we've been going over started started

(15:03):
with the n Women article what is the Manisphere and
why should we care? And their discussion on dang it.
Sometimes my computer likes to put the window behind the
window I'm using in front of the window. I'm using

(15:24):
really annoying, and that window was discord so I didn't
accidentally just grab something and move it. But this is
where we started, right, just just to remind you guys,
this is where we started. We went through uh, the

(15:44):
the research from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue mentioned at
the bottom, and we went through the brochure on the
Act to End Violence against Women. We looked at this
right and we are currently looking at Protocol on the

(16:09):
Rights of Women, which is the I believe this one
is the African Protocol and the Rights of Women. We
also have the other one open, but I haven't gone
into this. And we had talked about their reason reasoning
that they gave here right there, things about the African

(16:33):
Platform for Action, the the car Declaration of nineteen ninety four,
so all the reasons why feminism has already should have
already accomplished the things that this Act is supposed to accomplish,

(16:54):
like they've had they've been doing this for thirty years.
We've established they've been doing this for thirty years with
the support of the entire world's national governments in a
unified effort. And then on top of that they've had,

(17:14):
you know, previous experience doing this without necessarily network support,
and they have achieved nothing. Are they're claiming they've achieved nothing.
So now we're going to look at what they believe
our rights that are specific to women. And the reason
I'm putting it that way is because these are things

(17:36):
that they are demanding that I want to see what
whether men feel like those rights are respected in their lives.
Does the government, the federal government, the world government, your
state government, your local government, the people around you, even
do they afford you these rights or not? So Article

(17:58):
two Elimination of discrimination again women. It says states parties
shall combat all forms of discrimination against women through appropriate legislative, institutional,
and other measures. So they want systematic institutionalized protection from
discrimination for women. And first of all, they want included

(18:24):
in their national constitutions and other legislative instruments, if not
already done, the principle of equality between men and women
to ensure its effective application, meaning they want the ra
the Equality Act in the United States. I don't know
if the UK has a similar proposed piece of legislation,

(18:49):
but the Equality Act the Equal Rights Amendment in the
United States that has been proposed for years and years.
The history of that is, initially it was written to
state that the sexes would be treated equally under the law,

(19:15):
which it's already kind of covered by the fourteenth Amendment,
but apparently feminist thought they needed another amendment to make
it to make it stick.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
But it's always a very similar formula. Do women have
these rights, No, they don't. Somebody should give women these rights.
And then someone from the background goes, do men have
these rights? Well, that doesn't matter what you're talking about.
What does it even matter if men have these rights? Well,

(19:57):
as it happens, men don't have these rights, but that's
not important. Women need these rights because they've never had
these rights. But men have never had these rights either.
What the fuck you? Women should have all of these rights.
And this is what gets me so pissed about these

(20:18):
fucking traditionalists who are always saying that the problem with
modern society is all these human rights that ever since
the Enlightenment, it's been less about god given rights about
and more about government given rights, and that we should
give human beings all these rights. And I'm like, men
have never been given these government given rights like this

(20:42):
has been this has been the aim of these I
don't even know what adjectives you use, but the thing
we've called communists all these years is that governments have
been trying to give rights to people they think have
never had these rights, well, ignoring the fact that other

(21:05):
such people have never had these rights. And in what
we think of as the original communist type thing, they go, well,
poor people have never been given the rights that rich
people have. And this was extended to men and women,
claiming that women have never been given these rights that

(21:28):
men have never been given either. And like you had
a point when it was the rich and the poor,
because the rich tend to be able to pay for
these rights because they're rich in the way that the
poor haven't. And that's kind of almost a good point,
but not quite. But now you've extended it to men

(21:50):
and women, as though men have always been given these
rights just because they're men. No, they haven't. Rich men
have and rich women have. But that's not that's not
to say that men are given these rights just because
they're men, and they never have. And then you have
the vote and all this bullshit, as though as though

(22:15):
men were given powers that meant that women weren't given
for the longest time, but no women were advanced in
the vote far more accelerated than men were ever given
these rights. And I know, the problem isn't this haphazard

(22:35):
application of rights. It's that they were never given to men,
certainly never given to native men. And yes, it does
go back as far as the Enlightenment. It was never
about giving everyone rights. It was about giving rights to
the perceived neglected. And yes, we'd like to think it

(23:03):
started with the poor, and that's what we call communism,
giving rights to the poor that we think were never
given to them in the first place. And yeah, that
was arguable, But then it extended to giving women rights
that they were never given. But men were never given
these rights either. The kings were, but most men are

(23:24):
not kings, as politicians were, like leaders of men were,
but men were not. In fact, men who were not
leaders were very much as made munitions in the capricious

(23:47):
desires of men who were given these rights. And now
women who are given these rights. And I think if
and it's only got work since then, because obviously it's
only been extended from the assumption that women don't have

(24:09):
rights to the assumption that racial minorities don't have rights,
and the assumption that sexual orientation people do not have
do not have these rights. And now any given immigrants
does not have these rights. And so everyone should have
these rights except men, except the men we're supposed to
be serving. And yeah, it's left. It's it's the it's

(24:40):
the case of advancing the human rights of everyone except
native men, except the very people who are in place
to advance these societies in the first place, The very
the very people who are integral to upholding everyone else's

(25:03):
rights end upholding the advancement of civilization.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Often at the cost of some of their lives.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And this is why we call it communism. But it's
so much broader than the idea of communism, the idea
of of of giving automatic rights to people who don't
have to work for them. And and you know, the
people who don't have to work for these rights have
always been everyone except the men who act as workhorses.

(25:38):
And yes, that includes slaves, that includes all the people
that that that you'll pretend to activate for. And yeah,
that's that's been the case ever since. It doesn't matter
who's working for things. It's it's a case of giving
free gimmes to anyone who isn't working for it, and

(26:04):
that's and that was women, and then minorities, and then
bla blah, it's everyone except the the native men who
have actually had to break their backs this whole time.
And yes, it did start with men, because I mean,
we a lot of us like to act like it

(26:26):
started with feminism one hundred years ago, but it started
with romantic chivalry a thousand years ago. A thousand, yes,
a thousand years ago. That's how long it's been going on.
It's only been politicized for the last hundred years, but
it's been socialized for the last thousand years ever since

(26:46):
romantic and that's I don't have time to get into that,
although a lot of you already understand what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, and we didn't do an episode, and I believe
on on the history of that through we went to
guynocentrism dot com, which has a great article on the
history of romantic chivalry. And actually, if you haven't visited
that site, you really should because there's a lot of
interesting information on there about the dynamics between men and women,

(27:16):
and in particular, you know, romantic chivalry, the history of ginocentrism,
and how it's manifesting today. Right now, mister Wright is
focused a little bit on hypergamy, which is the practice
of women marrying up, which has been a confounding factor

(27:39):
in the dating world lately because women have simultaneously striven
to increase their incomes significantly and out earned men, but
then also uniquely in terms of money, still want to
marry up. But if you're making more money than the men,

(28:01):
you cannot find somebody very easily who makes more money
than you to marry You're mad. You've made it a
goal to eliminate the fact that they make more money
than you. So you're you're you're essentially reducing your dating
pols significantly, your dating pools significantly. If you hold those

(28:22):
two standards simultaneously, I must earn a great deal of money,
but he still has to earn more. And what's happened then,
as women have ended up, a lot of women have
ended up unable to find a partner because of their
conflicting standards, and they have been that there's now this
epidemic of female loneliness that women are blaming on men.

(28:44):
Why aren't these men earning more money? They're they're just
as their their jobs are just as lucrative as they
always were. You're just earning more than you were earning before.
And so therefore the idea that you should be depending
on him financially has become obsolete. And if you feel

(29:05):
like you need to marry up financially, so are you.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I haven't heard of this female loneliness epidemic.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, we hear all about the male loneliness. Yes, And
I will be honest and in my opinion, the primary
cause of the male loneliness epidemic is the female bitchiness epidemic.
It's not the same factor.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
So it's easy to it's easy to solve the female
loneliness epidemic. Just be nice to men. I mean, not
overly nice to men, just like don't portray them as
eternal oppressors of women. Just understand that they are your
fellow human beings and they want to be nice to you,

(29:53):
so maybe you should be nice to them. Because if
you're honestly, if ladies, if you're are nice to men,
they will bend over backwards and pull the stars from
the skies for you. That's that's all you need to do.
Just be nice to men. We don't need you to

(30:14):
be the world changing scientists and doctors and engineers. Just
be nice to us, and we will make sure you
will you are never lonely again. But then this idea
of the male lonely loneliness epidemic introduced itself to women
in the past couple of decades, and their reaction is, well,

(30:34):
fuck you, you don't deserve a fucking cookie. Yeah, they say,
be nice to you. No, we're already nice to you,
We're already beyond nice to you. And they're just going, well,
we don't give a fuck if you're lonely. Work yourselves
to death, and then you still don't deserve any of

(30:57):
our niceness. Fucking die a bunch of sorry that I
used a game of word. I couldn't help myself, but
that's basically what they're saying to us.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's a sad situation because when you look at the
history of relationships, marriage didn't used to be a thing
that happened because two people fell in love with each
other and wanted to be together, right. It happened because
two people's families decided that it was economically advantageous to

(31:34):
them to connect their their business dealings, and to seal
that connection, they would they would marry off one of
their sons and one of their daughters, you know, from
the opposing families to each other, Or because a father
had decided that this guy or that guy would effectively

(31:58):
provide for his daughter so that he would not have
to provide for her in his old age. Or a
particularly wealthy individual, high status individual had decided that he
wanted to father children and made a deal with a
family that one of their daughters would be his bride

(32:22):
and bear his children. It didn't. It didn't happen because
romance and you learned to bond with the individual that
you were sort of stuck with, and you know, or
you you courted with a lot of chaperoning in events

(32:46):
where the two families mingled, and if everybody agreed that
the match was a good match, then you know, then
the marriage would happen. But it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
He asks you out in some creative manner that appeals
to your sensibilities without offending you, you know, approach and
does his particular special spider dants, and you choose to
go out with him instead of eating his head. That's
not the way it used to work. And you know,

(33:22):
I honestly, I think that in some ways that was
better because instead of acting on impulse the way that
women do today so often, and then getting divorced five
to ten years later, depending on whether they're waiting for
eligibility for alimony, because some states still provide alimony, and

(33:48):
some of those states only provided if you've been married
for ten years. So there are women who stay in
a marriage that they're not happy in and that they
plan on leaving for extra years in order to get
that alimony. But women will marry, they'll date on impulse,

(34:09):
they'll marry based on pure in the moment lust, and
then when they discover that they've actually married a human
being and not a storybook character, they get mad. They
don't work on the marriage, they don't put effort into
the relationship, and they leave. And seventy percent of divorce

(34:32):
today seventy to eighty percent depending on where you look,
is initiated by women. And the reasons that many women
give involve things like, you know, the guy isn't doing
enough housework, or they don't feel like they're still being wooed,

(34:52):
like they're still being courted after they've said their vows,
you know, and so on when historically it wasn't the
male obligation to continuously court a woman like that. And
I don't understand why other women feel this is necessary.
I find that kind of thing exhausting. Like I enjoy

(35:15):
quiet time with my husband where we're just sitting together
and enjoying an activity together, you know. Not that not
that sex isn't fun too, right, Like clearly everybody that
participates and that enjoys that. But it's fun to sometimes
just sit and play a game together, or sit and

(35:36):
watch TV together, or go walk around and look at
stuff that you're not going to buy today in a
store together. No, it would be nice to have that
when we, you know, get to this point of conditions
that make it a thing for us, you know, and
stuff like that. But this idea of he has to

(35:59):
bring you flowers. I'm allergic to flowers, by the way,
So that's not not a not a thing in our house,
or or candy or you know, any you know, it
has to make you fat. It's all bullshit like and
it's it's exhausting. And it's one thing like if you're
out somewhere and your partner really really likes a particular character,

(36:25):
you know, their favorite video game character or their favorite
movie character. Like my husband's a big fan of the tick.
If I find something that I think he'll particularly like,
it doesn't have to be his birthday coming up or
Christmas coming up. I just get it and like, look
what I found. I knew you would like this. You know,
it's not about romance. It's about making each other happy

(36:46):
and getting to see each other smile and enjoying each
other's just experience of life and personality and everything. You know,
And we do stuff like that for each other. But
this whole idea of uh, men have to bend over

(37:08):
backwards to make women happy. Honestly, I think that that
perception is the biggest cause of female misery right now,
uh in in the world, outside of things that people
can't do anything about, like uh, like famine and natural

(37:30):
disasters and stuff and like that, that women cannot make
their own happiness and have to wait for men to
make it for them is it's a huge weakness in women,
and and it's historically there's not a support for it.

(37:53):
Like historically that was not a thing women. Women did
the same thing that men did. If you want to
be happy, you decide what Your conditions for happiness are
based on things that you can achieve, and then you
work toward those and you make them happen, even if

(38:14):
you have to work around all kinds of other conditions
and situations that make it more difficult, and in fact,
the harder you have to fight for it, sometimes the
bigger the happiness is when you get to it. But instead,
women create shit like this, right, including their national constitutions

(38:35):
and other legislative instruments, have not already done the principle
of equality between women and men and ensure it's effective application.
So you look at the United States, for instance, we
have that already. We have had that. Let's see, what
year was the Fourteenth Amendment past? I have to look

(38:56):
at if I have anything in the history of this,
because I've got a bit of the transcript here. I'm
gonna have to I'm gonna actually have to look that up.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
It was the year six sixty six. Yeah, no, I
hear by said this, I refuse to elaborate, and I leave.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
The Fourteenth Amendment was ratified on July ninth, eighteen sixty eight.
So we've had this for almost like it's it's over
one hundred years. It's almost two hundred years and and
that's equality between the sexes. It says in the fourteenth Amendment. Well,

(39:45):
it doesn't specify all the factors, right, it prohibits the
states from denying any person equal protection of the laws,
and the courts have consistently interpreted it to include things

(40:06):
like sex and race. So you cannot the government cannot
discriminate against people by denying them equal protection under any
law on the basis of their sex. Women cannot be
denied equal protection under the law. But an Equal Rights Amendment,

(40:28):
which was first proposed in nineteen twenty three and had
a completely different wording than it does now.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
But.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It states that equality of rights under the law shall
not be denied or abridged by the United States or
any state on account of sex. And that is completely
unnecessary because it's already in the Constitution. But the second
section says Congress shall have the power to en forced
by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article, meaning that

(41:05):
this gives Congress the ability to pass new laws with
the explicit purpose of imposing equality of the sexes in
some way or another. Well, we already know that feminists
have switched from the idea of equality to the idea

(41:26):
of what they call equity. They are not talking about
the value of your property holdings if you were to
sell them. They're talking about equalizing people's outcomes, regardless of
the effort that they put in, their circumstances, their choices,

(41:47):
and so on. So two people start out with an
equal right to non discrimination in the say, the process
of apple cation to university, say, since the universities receive
financial backing from the from the federal government, and so

(42:09):
they both apply. They both get into university, they both
take the same classes, the same course of study, they
both graduate, and at at the end of their graduation,
they're both licensed registered nurses. Right, And Bob goes to

(42:31):
work for a medical center that is part of a
medical network, large medical network, and it gets gets his
salary as commensurate with the nurses that work at this
large medical network. And Julie goes to work for a
private practitioner that is not part of a large medical network,

(42:55):
but maybe as treatment rights, you know, to go into
the hospitals or that medical network. So they run into
each other at some point, and Julie finds out that
she's making less money than Bob. She assumes that it's discrimination,
but actually private practitioner, doctor Jones pays all of her

(43:19):
nurses what Julie is getting paid, the males and the females.
It's just that, despite having credentials from the same university,
Bob and Julie did not choose to go into the
same work environment, and so there's no discrimination there, right.
But under the er, there could be laws passed by

(43:44):
Congress that would force that practitioner to increase her wages
for her nurses because women who work for her are
not getting paid the same as men who work for
some other company, and that it could be said to
be discrimination. As a result, she has to fire some

(44:06):
of her nurses because she doesn't have the budget.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
As I've often expressed, women are the nucleus of society
and men are the outer cytoplasmic albumen of society's It's
like an egg, it's like a cell. It's like a
celestial body that has a core and an outer mantle.

(44:34):
And in all of these situations, women occupy the middle
of it because they are protected by the outer shell
of men. That that does not suggest that women cannot
be ambitious, even though it's men that are on the

(44:56):
outside and women that are on the inside. If anything,
as I've often said, women are often more ambitious than men,
and I often cite Lady Macbeth as an example of this,
even though that's fiction. These fictions are often presented as

(45:22):
reflections of what's really going on in the real world.
And what's really going on in the real world is
women support men as men expand those boundaries, and Lady
Macbeth is a cautionary tale as to when women can

(45:45):
express too much of their ambitions and expressions of that
ambition on men. Women push their ambitions on men, and
that's okay because men are already appointed as the sentinels

(46:10):
of the outside, of of the human condition, never mind
the human society or the human civilization. And it's never,
it's never been beyond the possibility, beyond the possibility of
women's power to push men outwards. I mean, they're in

(46:34):
the exact position to do that, because women on the
are on the inside, and what better position can you
be than from the inside to push men further to
the outside. And that's I think that's largely been what
has pushed the human race to expand our horizons. Women

(46:56):
are more ambitious than men. But women use men as
their agents of this expansion and and and and this
has always been the case. But if you if you
appoint women to push themselves through this agency, through this

(47:19):
albumen through this cytoplasm, then you don't actually accelerate their influence.
You you only blend them together. And and until this,
this dynamic of nucleus and cytoplasm, this dynamic of yolk

(47:45):
and egg white, if you will it only it only
blends the two together and undermines the influence of both.
Women have always been the force that pushes men outwards,
while men have always been the force that uh is

(48:07):
thereby push outwards and thereby, to some degree by their
own elements, pushes themselves outwards into the outside world. And
this is how humans became the dominant species on Earth,
because we have this dynamic where men, where women push

(48:27):
men outwards and and men expand on on this outward
pushing and that and this has worked for us for
the longest time. But like I said, if if you
pretend that this dynamic doesn't exist, then you're only going

(48:49):
to blend the yoke and the album went together, the
the the nucleus and the cytoplasm together, and that's not
and that's not going to help with the outward pushing,
and it's only going to render us as uh a

(49:16):
a generalized blob that no longer has this outward push
and and and that, and that's feminism in a nutshell,
that's communism in a nutshell. Well, if you try to
equalize everyone, then you'll undermine this dynamic of inward core

(49:42):
and outward mantle that are both pushing out against each other.
I did, I did that video all this time ago
called I can't forget what you remember the one it was.
But the get the reason we've got this far a
dominant species on this earth is because we have this

(50:04):
perfectly balanced dynamic between this core of women and this
outer mantle of men that are both able to push
out into the outside world and dominate it. And if if,
if we're just going to deny this and pretend that

(50:25):
men and women are the same, then we're just going
to end up with this amorphous blob where there is
no core, and there is no outer mantle, where there
is no nucleus and there is no cytoplasm. And yeah,
we just this seems like something that wouldn't happen in nature,

(50:49):
And yeah, normally it doesn't, this abstract dynamic between men
and women, and it can be manipulated in this artificial,
abstract way that we can only we can only push

(51:10):
it back on ourselves, where we become this thing that's
not even an egg. Imagine an egg that isn't that
has no yolk and no egg white. Imagine this this
cell that has no nucleus and no cytoplasm. Imagine a
planet that has no core and no outer mantle, like

(51:35):
it wouldn't exist. The reason these things exist with these
separate layers. It became this way through well gravity in
the sense of planets and biology in the sense of eggs.
I mean, I'm not a biologist and I'm not uh

(52:01):
astronomer or whatever it takes to figure out what the
folk planets are doing. But yeah, it's the only reason
we've been able to deny these obvious differences and these
obvious dynamics when it comes to gender is because of
the last century. Again, dare I say the last millennium

(52:25):
of this denial of human nature are indeed natural nature,
any of any kind of nature? Again, the only reason
it's worked when it comes to the dynamics between men
and women. Is because is because we've persisted in this
outright denial of the obvious difference between men and women.

(52:49):
And it is an obvious difference, Like it can be
more obvious. Men and women are different, Males and females
are different, and they've been different for fucking a billion
years or so ever since single celled organisms. Like it's
diverged into the into into this brave new world. Dare

(53:11):
I say, where where where there are actually two different
kinds of organisms and they can and they can develop
there Again, I say diversity, Yeah, and yeah, yeah, diversity
is important when it comes to men and women. And

(53:33):
it's very ironic, isn't it that the very people who
try to enforce diversity don't mean the diversity between men
and women. Well, the while they're telling us that it's
important that we have black and white and brown and
yellow people all together in the same society, it's not
important that we have men and women in the same

(53:55):
society because now men and women are not an important
different Now we can just smooh those things together. So
until we have a society where there's no this thing
as men and women, but there's definitely a difference between
black and white and brown and yellow people, and and
and they should all be smashed together. Well, yes they can,

(54:19):
they can in theory, they can, but men and women
will never be smashed together, like it's physically impossible, it's
genetically impossible. And yet that's where it started, and and
and that's why everyone's so obsessed right now about immigrants
and about the racial replacement and such, because after feminists

(54:46):
tried to completely delete the difference between men and women
and they couldn't quite make it happen because it's fucking impossible.
But once they've got enough power, they while they were
trying to pretend that men can become women and women
can become men, to no avail because it's impossible, they

(55:11):
moved on to, well, white people and black people and
brown people and the other people can be smash together. Well,
yes they can, and yes that is possible, but it's
not necessarily a good idea. Maybe you should walk your
theories back to where you thought you could just abolish gender,

(55:33):
because you can't abolish gender. I mean, I know you
like to pretend that you could like redefine gender as
sex and redefine sex as gender and go, well, we're
calling these things different things now, so men can become
women because men and women are things that we now
define as different things. But at the same time, they're

(55:58):
still pretending that white people are evil and brown people
are good, like.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
They can become the same.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, they have it, they have it all backwards. They're
they're they're like, they're trying to pretend that men can
become women and women can become men, but they're still
not on board with the idea that white people can
become brown people and brown people can become white people,
but they can Like ironically enough, uh I, Let's say

(56:29):
Russians and Indians are both Caucasian because they're both descended
from the proto Indie European peoples of the Caucasus Mountains.
Some of them went north to Russia and some of
them went south to India. And the only reason that
they are different colors is because of climate. Like race

(56:51):
actually is a spectrum, like it absolutely is, like the
further north you go, the paler your skin becomes, and
the further south you go, the further towards the equator
you go, the dark uar skin becomes. So that actually
is a spectrum. But these fucking deceptive bastards are here

(57:12):
pretending that you can't change from one racetra or another. No,
that's that's an inherent property. But you can change from
one sex to another because we don't call it sex,
we call it gender, but there's not it's because gender
isn't sex. But by the way, sex is gender. You
can actually change your sex because sex is gender. They

(57:36):
can't keep up this fucking with these fucking lies. And
I don't even know where it began or where it's
even gonna end, but you know what I'm saying, right, Yeah,
we're just being fucking terrorized by these liars who will
pretend that you can change things that you can change,
but but you can't change things that can't be changed.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
It's it's designed specifically to exhaust you. The arguments that
are made are often convoluted, manipulative use, rely on logical fallacies,
and uh you know, are are just enforced through consistent

(58:19):
repetition rather than debate, actual debate. When you have somebody
who goes through with you a series of logic and
reason in which you knock down every argument they have,
and you point out the reasons why their argument is wrong,
and you provide solid information, solid evidence, solid facts, and

(58:46):
connect them with solid logic, and they come back with,
I just don't believe that's true, or you're you're just mad,
or you know, it's weak of you to think that way,
which is what feminists do with just about every masculine argument.

(59:06):
And you know, there's a whole set actually we went
through these in one show as well, a whole set
of shaming tactics. They use, Uh, you're you're scary, you're angry,
Uh stop whining, you know, and and so on your selfish.
They they have all these different charges that they they

(59:26):
will lob at you for. And what it is is
they're engaging in a Darvo attack, which is a manipulation tactic.
Most rhetorical fallacies are manipulation tactics. You know, when somebody
uses a Mott Bailey argument, which is when they they
hide a harder to defend argument behind and easier to

(59:50):
defend more mild claim. Feminism is about equality. Therefore, you know,
if you're against feminism, you're against equality of the sex
is treatment under the law. And then as soon as
you say, okay, okay, I'm not against feminism that, well,
then you can't be against what feminists are lobbying for.
So when feminists lobby against equal parenting rights, that's for equality,

(01:00:19):
like we said, and therefore you can't oppose it. Right,
that's your mott Bailey, And that's a manipulation tactic. It's
a tactic to keep you from defending yourself and defending
your sex against these types of arguments. This is being
pushed as something that will be protected under national legislation

(01:00:42):
in every country by by this particular effort, and this
this specific manifestos for Africa, right, But the organization that
that produced this is a world organism. It's not just Africa.

(01:01:02):
They want to do this in your country wherever you live,
whether you're in the United States, whether you're in one
of the South American countries, whether you're in Europe, whether
you're in Asia, they want to do this in your country.
So they want to have an equal rights amendment or
an equal rights clause that says something to the effect

(01:01:26):
of the government's going to enforce these equal rights, the
government's going to enforce equal treatment. And they're not just
talking about equality of opportunity genuinely equal treatment. They're talking
about equality of outcome, regardless of opportunity, action, or aptitude.

(01:01:54):
And so, for instance, you have two people running a race.
One of them has better coordination and is able simply
able to move their legs at a higher speed than
the other one. And you know they maybe they even
have a better stride, maybe they got longer legs. Right,

(01:02:14):
that person is going to win the race. They start
out with the same they're behind the same starting line,
they're running on the same track, they have the same
signal to start running. It's not an equality that one
of them loses. It's not an equality that one of
them is faster. But feminists want to treat it as

(01:02:38):
inequality if they don't cross the same finish line at
the same time. And the issue is much more complicated
when you have two different people that choose to run
two different tracks, two different courses, and they're not crossing

(01:02:59):
the same finish line, and one of them has chosen
a long looping track and the other one has chosen
a more direct or out And then they want to
complain that the person who chose the long looping track
is being discriminated against because they had more difficulties in

(01:03:19):
reaching their goal and their goal didn't take them to
the same place as the person who chose the more
director out. You know, that's aptitude versus attitude or action.
Both of those things can interfere with your result, and

(01:03:39):
you don't have a right to have someone else's result
mitigated or your result handed to you because your choices
made your result different from someone else's. But under an
equal Rights Amendment, Congress would have the power to enforce

(01:04:01):
through legislation those changes. Someone in the chat a while
back pointed out, like where I said, you know, they
might force the small employer to raise their wages to
suit the to to fit in with the big employer,
or you know, they might force the big employer to
lower wages to match with the smaller employers is paying.

(01:04:25):
Both of those could happen, and anytime the government interferes
with wages, it interferes with the relationship between the business
and the worker, and the business doesn't end up at
the losing end, the worker usually does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
For instance, Ohio raised its minimum wage. It's it's state
minimum wage above the federal minimum wage, and it's not
a huge difference in federal minimum wage is seven something
and the state minimum wage is ten something an hour.
It's not like the California fifteen dollars an hour, but

(01:05:02):
it's still a significant difference, right, And this was supposed
to like take fast food workers out of the poverty level.
So one of the things that I've noticed, and it
took a while, because we don't we don't need a
lot of fast food like one we will when we

(01:05:23):
there have been instances where we just don't have time
because like I said, I've been averaging about eighty hours
a week, and so that that does take away from
time to prepare meals. And we don't always go to
like we don't necessarily go to places that have a
lot of fried foods and everything because we're old. So
you know, like we go to subway places, sub sub

(01:05:44):
sandwich places and there's a bunch of different stuff like that,
or you know, there's a local deli and everything. A
lot of these places have started allowing their workers to
accept tips, and it's it's not even like it used
to be that that fast food workers didn't get tips.

(01:06:07):
Fast food is is food that's available pretty much instantly
after you order it, as opposed to you order and
then the food is prepared. So a lot of these
sub sandwich places, you know, you go in and you
select your bread, and you select your meat, and you
select your toppings and they put it together. And delis
are similar. They'll have certain types of sandwiches, but they

(01:06:28):
they they are only assembling pre prepared food as opposed
to cooking, which is, you know, takes takes more time,
and you sit and you wait in between when you
order and when you receive your food. And the difference
in tipping used to be if there were people waiting

(01:06:49):
your table. So you you sit down, you order, the
waiter goes, the server goes, and and you you get
your food from the server, not at the counter. And
so you know, even like even places that cook things
that are available really fast, like if you go uh

(01:07:11):
some some places like turger joints, you know they don't
necessarily have it all pre prepared. They might pre prepare
their most popular stuff. But if you order something that
people don't usually order, they're going to cook it after
you order it. It might take a minute or two,
but a server is not bringing it to you. You
wait at the counter to get it. So a lot

(01:07:32):
of these places are now when you pay, it offers
you the option of tipping, and it offers you the
option of you know, the fifteen percent percent, some of
them go up to thirty percent. Now for fast food workers,
why would these places start offering you the ability to

(01:07:54):
tip after they're they just had to increase, you know,
after they've had to increase their workers' pay. What would
they would they want to make your stay more more
expensive for? And if I started looking into it, and
then of course, if you can accept tips, then you're

(01:08:19):
a tipped worker. And if you work in the restaurant
business or some of the other industries where tipping is allowed,
a tipped worker does not get the same minimum wage
that a worker that doesn't get tips, that cannot accept

(01:08:40):
tips receives. And I know this because when I worked
at I used to work at a gas station. We
worked hard, but we didn't work as hard as like
I wouldn't have put my job on the same level
as say, construction workers and stuff like that. But they
would come in and they would get food and they
would see us working, and people would try to tip us,

(01:09:03):
and we couldn't accept it because if we could accept tips,
it would reduce the amount of pay that would be
our minimum wage. And so it was illegal for our
employer to allow us to accept tips because we were
being paid as regular minimum wage workers, not tipped workers.

(01:09:25):
A tip worker can get less than the federal minimum wage.
The federal minimum wage for tipped workers is fairly low,
and the Ohio minimum wage for tipped workers is in
the five dollars and some change range. So to get
around the requirement that they increase the pay of these

(01:09:50):
minimum wage workers, more and more fast food joints are
giving you the opportunity to tip, which makes their employees
tipped workers. And if they can establish that their employees
are tipped workers, they can almost cut their pay in half,
which saves the company quite a bit of money and

(01:10:12):
completely makes it a moot point that the minimum wage
has gone up. Pretty sneaky, huh. So when people do
these things, they don't they don't think about the consequences. Right,
minimum wage goes up, Okay, these changes take place in
your workplace. Okay, now your pay has gone down, or

(01:10:37):
the other end of it. When I was working at
the gas station, the minimum wage went up, and it
was it was a pretty big hike. And you have
to realize when I first started working, the minimum wage
was less than four dollars an hour. I've been working

(01:10:58):
for a long time. But in any case, and I
know other people that started working when the minimum wage
was it was like less than two dollars an hour.
So that's not right the prevailing wage because there wasn't
a minimum wage, but the prevailing wage was less than

(01:11:19):
two dollars an hour for the types of jobs that
are considered minimum wage now. But in any case, you
have these intentions, you know, and what you end up
with is my employer, when they had to increase their wages,

(01:11:44):
they added to the number of tasks we were expected
to do during a shift, which effectively took away smoke brakes.
We weren't allowed to eat anything when we were in
the front store, only when we were in back room.
So if you didn't have time to go into the
back room away from the customers and spend a few

(01:12:07):
minutes not working, your eight hour shift had no breaks,
no lunch, no smoke brakes, no nothing. You didn't get
to eat in between when you arrived at work, when
you went home. So that's that's essentially what they did,
was they eliminated breaks. And similarly, you know, some some

(01:12:29):
places switched full time jobs to part time jobs so
that they didn't have to pay for benefits. And some
places just eliminated positions and divided the work from those
positions among the other employees, so your workload increased and
your your your hours did not so it it. And

(01:12:50):
then shortly thereafter it also became more expensive to get
stuff because everybody was raising their prices because they had
to pay their workers more. And therefore you just bless
the benefits of the increase in pay so you know,
you had you had quite a variety of ways that

(01:13:12):
employers get around these things. But women put these laws
in place so that women can sue employers. And when
the individual that works for the family practitioner that's making
is paying their employees less sues to you know, or
files for a legislative change, they usually sue somebody, and

(01:13:33):
they usually get a settlement or an award, and while
everybody else suffers changes in their workplace, that litigant goes
home with a settlement, you know, like any anywhere between
fifteen and fifty thousand dollars, just depending on or more,
depending on what they can say they were denied. So

(01:13:59):
then you know this. The second b is is that
sort of stipulation. Congress shall have the power to enforce, enact,
and effectively implement appropriate legislative or regulatory measures, including those
prohibiting and curbing all forms of discrimination. And then this
part's important, particularly those harmful practices which endanger the health

(01:14:21):
in general well being of women. Right, So, you have
workplaces where there's heavy lifting to be done, or there's
work that's particularly dangerous or dirty, and you know, in
a lot of instances, women will pawn tasks off on

(01:14:45):
men that involve heavier lifting, more strenuous physical labor or
or use of strength, more more dangerous measures, things that
are more unsafe, like working on the night shift at
a gas station as opposed to working on the day

(01:15:07):
shift at a gas station in a neighborhood in an
urban area, or in a neighborhood where if something happened
to you at the gas station, it's so sparsely populated
that nobody would know until the next day, or in
a neighborhood where you take in a lot of money
and there's not a lot of security, or driving driving

(01:15:32):
a truck transporting money. You know, things like that where
you might get robbed a handling equipment that is dangerous
or difficult to control all these things. I used to
have a manager at the gas station. If something was
needed out in the back shed. We had cups and

(01:15:55):
stuff like that for the pop and everything that we
stored out there. She would send the male employees to
go get them. She would not send the female employees
out there to go get them, especially if it was
not yet light, or if it was after dark and
she had to turn off the back door alarm to
let somebody out it was. It was never a female.

(01:16:17):
She always sent a male out there because there was
risk involved, and sometimes the things that were being carried
in were heavy. And I called her on it once.
I was like, why don't you ever send us out there?
And you know, she's like, he's a man, he can
do it. He's he's big and strong, you know. And
then of course, the guy involved, the guy that was

(01:16:41):
being sent out at the time, you know, he was
he was like, I can do it, it's not a
big deal. I don't mind. But the reality is he
didn't get paid extra for that. He didn't get paid
extra for being the person who had to take a risk.
Probably the worst example of this that I've seen was
an ex of mine, an ex ex boyfriend in of
mind before I got married, worked at a hospital in Lima,

(01:17:04):
and there was a shooting victim that came in for
emergency treatment and his carotid artery, I believe it was
his carotid artery, not as jugular, was punctured by the bullet,
was ripped by the bullet, really to the degree that

(01:17:24):
to prevent it from leaking that he had they literally
had to squeeze it closed because it wasn't just a
little You couldn't just cover it, you know. So this
was an execution style assault, and this young man did

(01:17:46):
eventually die. They could not save him, and he was
too far gone when he arrived, and the injury was
too bad for them to repair it in time for
him to recover from from the blood loss. And it
was a horrific situation. But it was made worse by
the fact that he was a member of a gang
and they got his family and their families all riled up,

(01:18:11):
and there was a protest outside of the hospital. They
accused the hospital of killing him, and so there was
kind of a race riote out there where when when
you looked outside the hospital, the building was surrounded by
angry yelling people. And they put the men in the doorways, right.

(01:18:38):
They put male orderlies, which is what he was. Male
nurses and even some of the doctors had to guard
the doorways if they were not in treatment with a
patient in order and then the women did. They didn't
take their breaks, they just went you know, on with

(01:18:59):
their work and everything, and now was to keep people
from coming in and attacking the hospital. So they were
doing security work even though they were not hired as
security workers. And it was an incredibly stressful event for
this guy. He was ex military, so he fully understood

(01:19:20):
the situation he was in. He didn't have any kind
of weapon, he didn't have any way to defend himself.
He was just asked to stand there in a doorway
and look intimidating so people didn't try to get in
past him, which is a horrible position to put somebody
in during an you know, protest, and that that was gendered.

(01:19:43):
Not one woman was asked to do that. Only the men,
and not one of them got a bonus for it.
High risk, low pay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
This is what we mean when we call people communists.
Because I really have to address this because so many
of our distractors call out call us fascists, and then
we ask them, what do you mean by fascist? I mean,
particularly the people who turn up to these protests, And
then they're calling us all fascists, and well, what do

(01:20:16):
you mean by fascists? And they go, well, I don't,
I don't really know. I wish I was more educated
on this subject. Behind I don't, I don't really understand,
but I'm just gonna turn up and call you fascists.
But and yeah, the the the flip side of that
coin is, well you all call us communists, So what

(01:20:39):
does that mean? And yeah, what Hanna just said is
is is what we're talking about, Like, even if you're
less capable of doing the job, you should be paid
just as much. And yeah, that is what it has
always been entailed in this communism. It doesn't matter how

(01:21:01):
how much merit you have. Everyone should be paid the
same thing, no matter how much merit they have. And
that's that's whether it's class or gender, or sex or
race or whatever. That's that's always been what communism has
been about. Everyone should get the same outcome, regardless of

(01:21:24):
how good you are at the task. And it goes
all the way down into education, like everyone, if there's
any disparity between the genders or the races or whatever,
everyone should have the same outcome, even if it sound
to how you perform in your job. And we're like, no,

(01:21:48):
that's not that's not how it should work. But anyone
who says such a thing is called a fascist. And
then we ask, well, what do you mean by fascist?
And they go, we don't really, Oh, it's just anyone
who's not on board. But this fucking communism ship, Yeah, no,
we're we're not. We're not the thing that you call

(01:22:11):
us just because we're not communists, just because we don't
think that everyone should be given the same outcome, just
for any given fucking reason. And yes, it started with
the class, or it started with it, whatever the it was,
it's been lost to the annals of history before that
and and and whatever it's developed into. In terms of

(01:22:34):
men versus women, why versus blacks, fucking sis versus transfer,
that's that's never been the point. We've always been about,
like do you have the merit to do the thing?
And that's not that's couldn't be further from fascism because
because fascism has always been that along the lines of

(01:22:58):
I think, not even nations in terms of state, and
state's not the same as nation. State is the authority
that that has declared itself the authority over the nation.
And that's not what any of us have ever been

(01:23:20):
talking about. You know, I'm trying to centralize myself on
what I'm talking about. But this is why we because
it resembles communism just along various different lines that everyone

(01:23:41):
has to have the same outcome. And this is why
feminism is just communism in panties, and BLM is just
communism in black panties or whatever we.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Can we can add, it's communism. It's communism that has
dressed itself in black issues.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah, we can describe what communism is. We can pinpoint
the fundamental ethos of what communism is, and it's everyone
should have equal outcomes, regardless of how shit they are
at their jobs. Y'all have never been able to pinpoint fascism.
And when I say y'all, I mean you know what

(01:24:27):
I mean, most of us, That's what I mean. They've
been turning up to these protests. You're a fascist, you're
a Nazi, And we're like, what does that mean? What?
What is a fascist? And they can never tell us.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Interesting a fascism. They don't accept it because it's they
like to call non interference by government fascism instead of exactly. Yeah,
so that's kind of an interesting They had this kind
of interesting life lack of knowledge. But I wanted the questions.

(01:25:03):
I wanted the men, in particular the chat to consider.
We have the statement here that these feminists want law
and regulatory measures. That's policy prohibiting and curbing all forms
of discrimination, particularly those harmful practices which endanger the health
in general well being of women. So think about this.

(01:25:27):
How many other instances like the one I described a
few minutes ago can you think of that you know
about in your life where you or another man you know,
has had a higher expectation of manual labor or a
higher expectation of risk imposed on him in the workplace

(01:25:49):
without an increase in pay, because the women cannot be
expected to do it because they're protected because they're women,
and he's not because as he's a man. Right, this
is something that women expect protection from. Women expect to
not be discriminated against in such manners. But when men

(01:26:13):
face this type of discrimination, will you have to stand
in the doorway and keep these people out because you're
a man and you're stronger. When that's really a job
for the police, right, there's really a job for people
who have taken on certain security roles, not just like
the person who sits in a guard shack and lets
people in, but armed security whose job it is to

(01:26:36):
deal with threatening situations such as in a prison, you know.
But they didn't, they didn't bring in anybody like that,
and the police were outnumbered, so you know. Uh, it's
not just the amount of work, the amount of labor.
It's not just the hours work. It's not just like

(01:26:57):
those things are problems as well. It's not just what
shift you're on, what might happen on that shift. It
was on the night shift at the gas station where
I worked that twice we had people come in and
hold employees up at gunpoint. Twice we had people come
in and hold employees up at knife point. Once we

(01:27:19):
had an employee who was robbed digitally using a combination
of very sophisticated attack actually a combination of attacks on
our computers and on our on her intellect and uh.
And then once we also had a distraction attack where

(01:27:41):
one person came in and got the loan employee away
from where the registers were and and into the cooler
where she couldn't see the register. And the other person
then got into the change maker, which wasn't locked, and
took all the quarters, which added to, you know, a

(01:28:01):
couple couple bucks, But it was still a theft. And
these are all things that happened on the night shift,
and in every instance, the employee suffered some sort of consequence,
whether it was trauma from the attack or in the
case of the digital robbery and the the trick played

(01:28:24):
on the employee that the the individual distracting her. That
employee was held accountable for that theft because she wasn't
watching the register and she should have said, you know,
I'm not I can't go back there. But so that situation,
usually you see men in that situation because employers like

(01:28:47):
that will not put women on that shift, or men
are in a financial situation where they can't turn that
shift down, they can't afford to turn that shift down,
and women are usually in more of a financial situation
where they can be pickier about what shift they take,
and so they are not as likely to be present

(01:29:10):
in the store and alone in the store when someone
decides to target it with a robbery. And this is again,
you know, discrimination that particularly involves harmful practices that endanger
the health and general well being of the employee. Women

(01:29:32):
are to be protected from that, But how much protection
have men had from that? Is that a right that
has been protected for men throughout history or is that
something women are demanding that hasn't been done for men?
You know, and to me, I see that as something

(01:29:54):
women are demanding that hasn't been done for men. Similarly,
they want want a gender perspective in policy decisions, so
they literally are asking for discrimination here. Having a gender
perspective in policy decisions is different than having a gender

(01:30:15):
blind perspective, where you say, is this enforcement should not
be affected by the sex of the individual it's affecting. Here,
they're saying it should be affected. Women are supposed to
get special treatment. And then the next one take corrective
and positive action in those areas where discrimination against women

(01:30:37):
in law and in fact continues to exist. So, in
other words, they're going to go through various areas of
government and employment and so on and look for problems
where nobody is complaining and make changes. And then finally

(01:31:03):
they're saying they want it supported locally, nationally, regionally, and continentally.
They want the entire continent to be on board with us.
They want initiatives, which means feminists getting paid to give
advice and create materials and make proclamations and do pretend
research that isn't real research directed it eradicating all forms

(01:31:28):
of discrimination, but only against women. They don't want to
put any effort into eliminating areas such as where men
are asked to take higher risk, or men are asked
to work through to your jobs, or men are the
only people who get drafted, or men don't benefit as

(01:31:49):
much from social services because you have to have custody
of children and men are discriminated against in custody court.
Then we have this one really struck me, not this part.
This is again, this just kind of a repetition. States

(01:32:09):
shall commit themselves to modify the social and cultural patterns
of conduct of women and men throughout public education, information, education,
and communication strategies with a view to achieving the elimination
of harmful cultural and traditional practices. So they want to
They're coming after the culture and traditions in Africa, the

(01:32:29):
way that families interact with each other the way that
people relate to each other. They want the law to
interfere in those relationships based on the idea of the
inferiority or superiority of either of the sexes, which is
again weasel words, because we do recognize that men and

(01:32:51):
men and women are different. For instance, under domestic violence law,
right as soon as you're talking about violence in the home,
even when it goes two ways. One of feminists first
arguments is that men are stronger and therefore they're more
accountable for their violence than women should be for theirs.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Except in sports except his worries.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Yeah, then it's okay for women to sue to get
positions on men's athletic teams, but not the other way around,
all right, And and again, stereotyped roles for women and men.
So they refer to traditions, long standing traditions that evolved
out of natural human behavior, as stereotypes. But this one,

(01:33:45):
every woman shall have the right to dignity inherent in
a human being, in the recognition and protection of her
human and legal rights. So, guys, when when the state
interacts with you, do you feel like the state is
recognizing your right to dignity inherent in a human being.

(01:34:09):
The first thing that I think.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Sounds like some in cell ship, doesn't it. I mean,
I want the right to dignity, and that means I'm
being recognized as someone with with with sexual dignity something. Yeah,
that means you can't just treat me like I'm some

(01:34:32):
kind of sexual vagrant or now, how very dare.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
You people who can act like you're a threat because
they had to step over you on the street since
you had no place else to go. I want, I
want the right to dignity inherent in a human being
recognized by the federal government for women, for women right

(01:35:03):
when the when the police come to your house because
your neighbor hed heard your television too loud and they
think there's a domestic violence incident taking place in there,
and that they have the right to come in because
the the complaint was a domestic violence complaint and they
have the right to go through your your home and

(01:35:24):
make sure that nobody is in there has been abused
by you, and the right to accuse you of having
harmed someone, And you don't have the right to freedom
from having your place examined and have and and have

(01:35:45):
being treated like a likely criminal. Is your dignity inherent
and a human being, and your your human and legal
rights being recognized in that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
This is what I mean about rights. I mean, I mean,
I know the the idea of a right can be corrupted,
especially within the legal system, but we have a way
of drawing this line. A right is is your ability
to do your own thing as long as it does

(01:36:19):
not detract anyone else's legal thing. As long as you
can live your life without killing anyone else's life, as
long as you can UH build your wealth without without
detracting from anyone else's wealth through UH means that are

(01:36:47):
in some way unfair right, But dignity UH can't be
can't be pinned down in this way. Dignity is it's
like so many other things, like it can be pushed
one way or another. Like it's like offense. It's like

(01:37:15):
the difference between harassment and disagreement. Anyone can say that
you have offended my dignity, and offense is just as
subjective as dignity, Like anyone can say that their dignity
has been offended, like men can do this, women can
do this, but thanks to the UN and other such institutions.

(01:37:42):
The very idea of dignity has been the market has
been cornered by women, like, you can't offend a woman's dignity,
but there's no such thing as offending a man's dignity,
because women have dignity and men do not. And that's
really all itt to what is dignity. It's it's it's subjective,

(01:38:06):
and it's given only to those whom the authorities have
given it right yeap.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
And what the authorities have done in in Western States,
Europe and Canada the United States to a degree is
alter the legal landscape so that all a man has
to do is be accused of offending a woman's sensibilities

(01:38:40):
by his very presence or non action, non decision and
and and he is on his back foot legally. In
some instances, he's already broken the law. Uh and And
an example of this is misogyny laws that are passed

(01:39:02):
in some places and being proposed in others, where all
it takes is for a couple of guys to be
having a conversation with each other at a bus stop
about their wives, their girlfriends, or women that they might
be considering dating, and some other woman is offended by

(01:39:22):
something they said, or takes it in an offensive manner,
even if it's not an offensive statement, and all of
a sudden, they're in violation of the misogyny law. Women
have accused men of harassment for allegedly following them by

(01:39:45):
not crossing the street. When the woman comes out of
a building and the man is walking on the street
behind her. You're walking from your workplace on that side
of the street to your apartment on that side of
the street, several blocks away, where there's no turns in

(01:40:08):
your walk, and there's no reason for you to be
on the other side of the street. But if she
comes out of a building on that side of the
street and is also walking on that side of the street,
and you're behind her, God forbid, she decides that that's creepy. Right,
you certainly must not catch up and pass her, walk

(01:40:30):
past her, because you're sneaking up behind her, even if
you were there first, even if you don't interact with
her at all, And if you do interact with her,
just saying hi can get you accused of harassment or misogyny. Right?
Is that dignified for men? Does that respect a man's dignity?

(01:40:53):
Or is that the presumption of dastardly intentions and being
treated like trash. Right, the next one, every woman shall
have the right to respect as a person into the

(01:41:13):
free development of her personality. Doesn't give any specificity of
you know, having a decent personality. Right, So, a woman
could be lecherous, she could be a herodine, she could
be a criminal, she could be anything. She could be

(01:41:37):
the best of the best or the worst of the worst.
It doesn't matter. She has the right to respect as
a person and to develop the free development of her personality.
What about men, You know, we brought up in cells
a little bit ago. And what if somebody has a
socially awkward personality, has difficulty connecting with the opposite sex,

(01:42:01):
is unattractive in some way, or has a disability that
people find unappealing to to try to engage with. Does
does he have the right to free development of his personality?
Does he the right to be curmudgeon?

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
We often we often portray this as that women generally
do have respect for men, and men are generally nice
to women. And then we have to unpack that difference.
That women respect men because men are stronger than them,

(01:42:43):
and men are nice to women. Well, I was going
to say, because they're we but then you then you
have to unpack the difference between respectful and nice, and
there really isn't much difference. It's just that women are

(01:43:04):
generally afraid of men and men are generally not afraid
of women. And that's not for any particular good reason. Well,
maybe it's for an evolutionary reason, because we are all
built for the Stone Age, for an age before there
was any such thing as a government, before there was

(01:43:25):
any such thing as the police or what have you.
But when you when you draw all that down, if
you can imagine men and women living with each other
in the Stone Age, we generally respected each other and

(01:43:48):
we were nice to each other. And in the case
of women, it was because they knew that men were
stronger than them, and in the case of men, it
was because they knew that women were generally nice to them.

(01:44:10):
Now that might be an oversimplification, but I say this
as though none of these authorities existed in the Stone Age.
But they did. As long as men and women existed.
It was understood that men were stronger than women, and

(01:44:33):
evolution had loaded us with these neurological pathways that it
kind of taught us that it had toss us along
in advance, that men who were disrespectful to women would

(01:44:53):
get the ship being out of them by other men
if they were ever disrespectful to women, Like we act
like this is something that men only do to women,
like like like, men are always disrespecting women, but if
they ever did it in public, other men would beat

(01:45:14):
the ship out of them. And it still goes on
even in this age of multiculturalism. And I you know it,
your love to suggests that I do not need to
elaborate on what I'm talking about. But in the same way,

(01:45:37):
women were generally nice to men, because if they were
not nice to men, then they would suffer similar consequences.
And so this this idea that respect and niceness at
all different, not that women in the modern age have

(01:45:58):
any idea of what it means that men are generally
nice to women in the same way that men women
are generally respectful to men. I mean it's the same thing.
It's that you understand the powers that one another have
liked you. After after a century or so of a

(01:46:22):
feminist indoctrination, we're given the idea that that there are
different things that that women are respectful to men. But
men are not nice to women. No, they are. We
both have the same respect and niceness to each other.

(01:46:46):
I mean that. Like I said, they're the same thing.
It's it's just that this mutual respect and niceness have
been unraveled over the last years, indeed, the last thousand years.
Blah blah blah, romantic chivalry. Yeah no, we've always respected

(01:47:13):
this idea of being respectful and nice to one another
as genders. Why wouldn't we'd be. This is how we
got this far in the evolutionary ladder, by men and
women being nice and respectful to each other in ways
that no other species is, because no other species has

(01:47:35):
these various layers of intelligence of understanding each other's intelligence.
This is how we got this far because we are
because because we're able to understand that there's no real
difference between niceness and respectfulness. Like we we can imagine

(01:47:57):
each other's brains. We can we we we can understand
that we can understand each other's brains, and that we
can understand each other's understanding of each other's brains. And
that's I'm gonna have to defer you to home math again.
Because he did a brilliant video yesterday. It's fucking subscribed

(01:48:21):
to home math. He's got he's he's a fucking genius,
and he's got this way of explaining these levels where
you understand other people's understanding and then you are the
and then you understand other people's understand understanding of other people,
and then you understand other people's understanding of other people's
understanding of other people's and it's yeah, well it's a

(01:48:44):
fucking ancient Greek philosophers have figured this out a long
time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
But yeah, yeah, the video title that you'll be looking for,
it's its whole underscore math. By the way, there is
the name on YouTube. The chair in the video is
titled the High Levels of Thinking and then in brackets
and how they make things better sometimes. So it is like, again,

(01:49:12):
this does have quite the handle.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
He is one hundred and fifty arc at least the
man's a little But again that people have understood this
since the ancient Greek days. We're just we've just forgotten
all of this, especially in the advent of Fromato Chivalry.
The ship has just rotted our brains to the point

(01:49:36):
where we've forgotten to understand things we should have understand
it understood, Sorry since fucking thousands of years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
God, And actually, if you're a young woman and you
are internally tough enough to do this, you should listen
and watch the videos on home Math's channel and consider
if you might be able to make your life easier

(01:50:05):
by taking the advice and incorporating understanding of the information
that he's conveying. Because if I'd had something that blunt
and explained, like you're five, you know, in a high
school about all of the ways that women self sabotage

(01:50:28):
and sabotage their relationships and behave stupidly. There are multiple
instances where I put myself through the school of self
inflicted hard knocks that I wouldn't have had to pay
that tuition because I'd have already had the lesson and
I have already altered my behavior accordingly, and I would

(01:50:53):
have had better outcomes for me and the people around me.
So y'all are lucky that he's around now, because there
really wasn't anybody doing that that women could listen to
in the in the eighties that that women were interested
in listening to. Like, you know, I listened to Rush Limbaugh,

(01:51:15):
and I got a little bit of good advice on
acting like an adult from Rush Limbaugh. But Rush was
more of a provocateur, like a shock jock than anything.
And of course I listened to my minister, but my
minister was far more gentle and diplomatic, and that's not
what women need. And women need to be bluntly told

(01:51:39):
how to be adults instead of modern women, because you
can't be both. And they be there, you know, we're
we're doing that, but home math is doing it on
a whole other level, with a whole other level of explanation.
And if you are tough enough to listen and not

(01:52:03):
take it personally, it's excellent advice and excellent information. It's
difficult for women to not take stuff like that personally,
but the effort, like I said, your life will be
significantly easier if you are able to overcome that hurdle

(01:52:24):
and actually listen to the information on an intellectual level.
And I'll go on to We'll do one more of these,
because I find it interesting we might do both of
these two. I think, yeah, the last two here because

(01:52:45):
they are the last two. States parties shall adopt and
implement appropriate measures to prohibit any exploitation or degradation of
women and state party shall adopt and implement appropriate measures
to ensure the protection of every woman's right to respect

(01:53:06):
for her dignity and protection dignity and protection of women
from all forms of violence, particularly sexual and verbal violence.
Verbal violence. I love that term, like that doesn't exist.
That's like online gender based violence. Verbal violence is not
a thing. The verbal rudeness is a thing. Verbal abuse

(01:53:31):
is a thing. But not all abuse is violent, just
like not all violence is abuse. Defending yourself against somebody
else's violence is not abuse. And you know if it's
if it's not a physical assault on your body, it's

(01:53:51):
not violence. You're not physically injured by it. You do
have emotional responses to it. Verbal violence you can just
walk away from. So in any case, I want you
to think about this because these two things are kind
of related, especially in the context of the previous women.

(01:54:16):
Free development of your personality. Women are entitled, according to this,
to free development of any type of personality. It doesn't
say any limitations there. So a woman can be an
absolute fucking cunt, right and just just treat you like
absolute shit, engage in verbal violence towards you according to

(01:54:41):
what they would call verbal violence if you did it
to them, talk down to you, treat you like presumed
predator or threat, and or like you're dirty and beneath them,
not respect your right to dignity, can can exploit you

(01:55:04):
for unpaid labor, can degrade you. And this is this
is an INTERESTINGMN prohibit any degradation. There are things that
we do in my industry. I'm I'm a caregiver. I've
been a state tested nurses aid before that worked in
nursing homes, and I'm currently a direct support professional for

(01:55:26):
intellectually disabled adults. And in both of those industries, there
are some people who do not have bladder controller They
have varying degrees of incontinence, and they have to wear
protective undergarments for bladder leakage or incontinence, depending on what

(01:55:49):
level they have. And when you provide this type of
protection to an infant who has not developed control over
their urination or defecation, it's called a diaper. And diapers
are for babies, right, So, if you work in a
nursing home or care home and you have similar adult

(01:56:13):
sized protective undergarments, we don't call them diapers because diapers
are for babies, and to protect the dignity of adults
who are in that circumstance their health has deteriorated or
they never developed continence. They they they're called various things

(01:56:40):
like briefs or protective undergarments, or other terms that essentially
described them as just undergarments that people are wearing, and
a lot of times standard of undergarments will be worn
over them if they love to diperish so that the

(01:57:05):
individual doesn't feel treated like a baby, and a lot
of these garments are now made to look more like standard,
non protective undergarments, and in fact, there are now washable
cloth ones that are made specifically to be worn just

(01:57:27):
like any other undergarment in order to protect the dignity
and to make the individual not feel degraded simply because
they have a health condition. Right, But when society deals
with men and women on something like this, they deal

(01:57:49):
with them differently. So we'll switch from incontinence to insolvency
economic insolvency. So if a woman is insolvent and she
comes homeless as a result, everything in the world is
done to protect her dignity. She's offered space in shelters

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and there are services to try to find her a job,
to try to assist her in getting disability if she
can't get it, can't can't work if she has a
mental illness, to get her into rehab if she has
an addiction, and to generally get her out of that
situation in the case of women that simply cannot be

(01:58:35):
removed from that situation, to protect them from harm while
preserving their dignity. But if men are in that situation,
they are criminalized, they are demonized, they are stigmatized, and
they're often ignored. People will literally step over them in

(01:58:58):
the street. People will assault them for being in the way,
or assume that they are a threat and assault them preemptively.
People will steal from them. People will give them half
eaten food that you know they couldn't finish, and like,

(01:59:20):
while you're homeless, go ahead and eat after some stranger
that already took bites out of this sandwich. If they
want shelter, they have to hope that there's not so
many women with or without children, or men with children

(01:59:40):
wanting use of that shelter that there's no room for them.
If they have an addiction, it's treated as willful. If
they have any kind of criminal background, or any mental
health condition. It's treated as a reason why they should
be kicked out of whatever neighborhood they're in and sent
somewhere else but not you know, to have their their

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health care covered, or to receive disability acquirement assistance and
things like that. It's just you know, this, this guy
has to be dealt with, disposed of very much. They're
degraded and dehumanized. If a guy is a social reject,

(02:00:27):
like he's maybe awkward, maybe he has unattractive looks, maybe
he has a disability that makes him unattractive, he doesn't
earn very much money whatever, and he speaks to women.
You know, he gets degraded by being treated as trash
under their feet. He gets degraded by being lumped in

(02:00:51):
with violent people that he has no association with. He
gets degraded by being treated as a disposable human being.
And uh, you know, have you ever seen a dignified
looking purp walk? Have you ever seen a dignified looking

(02:01:13):
uh treatment? Treatment of a man who is being removed
from some place because other people are uncomfortable to be
around him. A man being thrown out in a dignified manner,
his his his uh, mugshot was dignified. His mugshot was stellar. Right,

(02:01:37):
But when you when you have a situation, for instance,
where you know, people decide that some guy has to
be thrown out of a park because he smells bad,
because he hasn't had an opportunity to bathe no access

(02:01:59):
to a shelter, no access to any kind of bathing
facilities beyond being able to wash up in a public
bathroom for weeks or months, Like, it never looks dignified
when the cops come and you know, pressure him to leave. Right,

(02:02:22):
But women have a right to dignity and freedom from degradation,
respect for her dignity, protection from all forms of violence,
all forms? Do men have protection from all forms of violence?
How many of you have a Selective Service card? If

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you're from the United States and you're an adult, you
probably do. If you're male, Like, are you protected from
all forms of violence? If the government can yank you
out of your life at any moment because they decided
to go to war, you protected from all forms of violence?
If you're with your girlfriend in a theater and some

(02:03:05):
nutjob comes in and starts shooting up the place, whose
job is it to protect your girlfriend? At the risk
of his own life, who will be publicly shamed by
the entire nation, no matter what the circumstances, if he
fails to protect a woman in danger and the news

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reports on it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
The guy who shut up the place, Heaven's No, Heaven's
to Betsy, No, Heaven's to Murgatroyd.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
And how often when a male educator, or a male
mentor in an organization, or a male authority in an
institution sexually exploits or assaults a female underling, inmate student,

(02:04:03):
someone under his authority, someone under his influence. How often
do you hear people respond to that news story by
going nice? Never?

Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
I've never heard a single instance. Even if the assailant
or exploiter is attractive conventionally, at the minute that someone
reports this individual sexually exploited, even an adult woman under

(02:04:44):
his authority or under his mentorship, he's definitely persona no gradis.
But what do we hear over and over again when
it's a a female teacher in her twenties sexually exploiting
a junior high school boy.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Yeah, oh, I wish I had teachers like that when
I was in school. Dude, No, you do not You
don't want to be fourteen times more likely to commit
suicide or forty four times more likely to abuse illicit substances.
You don't want to be more likely to get confused
about your sexuality and not be sure if you're gayer straight.

(02:05:32):
You don't want to be more likely to engage in
criminal activity, more likely to sexually assault someone when you
grow up. You don't want to be more likely to
fail at your relationships. Right, but we hear that all
the time. Oh, that kid was lucky. No, No, that
kid is a rape victim.

Speaker 2 (02:05:54):
That kid has his boundaries crossed. And then he goes
on to wonder, what if I crossed some boundaries myself,
I am in solitary confinement for the rest of my life. Oh, well,
it's hamoring. I wasn't. Or I would go on to

(02:06:16):
become one of those infamous, fucking serial murderers that Netflix
seems so obsessed with at this point.

Speaker 1 (02:06:24):
Yeah, or he grows up to be somebody's pay pig
for the rest of his life because he doesn't know
how to defend his boundaries and he doesn't know how
to relate to women other than in a transactional manner.
You know, there are a lot more pay pigs out
there than there are rapists. And yeah, how many forms

(02:06:48):
of violence are men protected from? Oh, you know what
depends on whether or not there's a woman around when
the violence is happening. If there's a woman around when
the violence is happening, the answer is none. Zero. He
can't even run away, he can't leave, right. And if
if there's any kind of legal action in response to

(02:07:09):
the violence, the victim of that violence, Even if the
violent assailant attacked the man and he defended himself and
the woman, and he was the one who suffered all
the injuries, she's the victim, right, Even if he ends

(02:07:36):
up in the hospital, he might be the hero, but
he never is treated like the victim. Yeah, Richard Bierre,
that's a great example. Mary Kayla Turno married her victim,
and it wasn't until after she had passed away that
he started to realize just how fucked up their relationship

(02:07:58):
was and how it might have affected him. It takes
years sometimes for victims of childhood sexual assault to come
to terms with the full nature of what happened to

(02:08:20):
us and how it changed us. And a lot of
us go through that period of trying to trying to
justify what happened or rationalize it wasn't that bad, or
I'm not a victim, or I had agency, when no,

(02:08:42):
you did not. You were underage. You were like, in
my case, I was five, in his case, he was
like thirteen. The worst time for a boy, because everything
is all out of whack. Your hormones have gone off
the charts. You have no idea what you're what you're
dealing with in life, and everything. The way that everything

(02:09:07):
in your body works has suddenly started changing, and it's
all very confusing. And that's what that woman stepped into
and took advantage of.

Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
Maybe this is a good time to finally say our
rips to Aaron Pitsy, who, well, we've been told in
the last day or so has finally been arrested at Peace.
But we were told this a few days ago, and

(02:09:40):
we weren't sure. We were sure it was true at
the time, and now we're being told is the case.
So I don't know if it's true or not, but
I guess given the timeline of things, we might be
a to say RP Aaron Pitsy and and to pay

(02:10:05):
a tribute to what she's been trying to tell us
as a civilization across the atgosphere and indeed the world, Yeah,
that these things happen generally. Generationally, these things happen from

(02:10:27):
household to household, and they will keep happening from household
to household until we recognize that the women are just
as prone to violence as men are, and until we
acknowledge this pretty obvious fact, it's going to keep happening.

(02:10:51):
As long as we only punish men for what women
have done to them, while well well neglecting to punish
women even in the advent of what men have done,

(02:11:16):
it's just gonna keep it's just going to keep getting.

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
We don't even help men get out of those situations
like No, in fact, when men try to get out
of those situations, they get punished for that too, So yeah,
they're they're unable to. Like when a woman wants to
get out of an abusive situation and she is the victim,
the state bends over backwards, or even if she says

(02:11:39):
she's the victim, even if she's not, state bends over
backwards to make sure she has custody to the children,
she gets child support, she gets property. Uh in the
division of marital property, that she isn't economically disadvantaged in
any way, that they can prevent her from being economically
disadvantaged by her her obllegation to extract herself from the

(02:12:03):
abusive relationship. But when a man tries to extract himself
from an abusive relationship, the state bends over backwards to
give his abuser custody of the children, to make sure
that his abuser is not economically disadvantaged by his extraction
of himself from her abusive environment that she's created for him,

(02:12:27):
and that his abuser gets property from the division of
property in the marital dissolution. They don't do anything to
protect the abuse victim. He doesn't even have a protected
right to see his children, he doesn't have a protected
right to any defense against economic hardship, and can be

(02:12:55):
forced to pay support to his abuser after he is
left the relationship. So it is, it is quite a
terrible situation for ment.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Yeah, the next thing on the agenda. Next thing on
the agenda, gentlemen, what once you're quite done with the
immigrant problem, can we do away with the Duluth model.
This might sound like something that only effects Duluth or
something that only effects Illinois. Is that where is something

(02:13:30):
that only affects the USA, Minnesota, something that only affects
the entire Western world as it's infected all of it.
Can we do away with that?

Speaker 3 (02:13:43):
I again, like we it seems like we're only clipping
the leaves of this poison ivy when we could be
clipping the seeds.

Speaker 2 (02:13:56):
And it started, it didn't start. I guess it did, but.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
Well, it didn't start into lu. The luth is what
made it. Made it policy, and the fact that it
was policy started into.

Speaker 2 (02:14:09):
Luth indeed, and that's a policy that we should really
rip out at the fucking roots, Yeah, because that's where
so much of this ship is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:14:20):
The other thing is before there was research, uh that
that demonstrated this. Aaron Pitsy recognized the fact that being
subjected to abuse and like childhood violence, like in a
in a in an abusive environment, violent environment, growing up

(02:14:41):
in an environment like that changes your uh, your your
structure of your brain. That it affects your your hormones
and your neurochemicals, your neurotransmitters. And she recognized, uh, oh, Mike,

(02:15:01):
your microphone is staticky. All of a sudden, there we go.
But she recognized that it does physical damage, not just
in the moment where there are bruises there. It goes again,
so it's like it's not plugged in properly or something.

(02:15:22):
But she also recognized that it ages you, that it
causes permanent like the stress causes permanent problems. And it
was years later actually when they started recognizing that when
you are raised in an environment like that where you

(02:15:43):
are scared all the time, that cortisol, the stress home hormone,
causes a bunch of changes in your system, and that
then later on there was another recognition that the cushy
in of your your chromosomes, when they you know, you

(02:16:05):
have your souls replicate and they copy the DNA the
little bits of the cushy ends drop off as and
that's part of how you age as part of what
causes aging. Abuse shortens those do you have less cushion
so it ages you. These are all things that Aaron

(02:16:26):
explained in less scientific terms years before they were explained
in scientific terms. She observed these things in real life
and tried to warn people, and it took that long
for you know, the rest of the world to catch up.

(02:16:47):
She was ahead of the curve on things like this
what we're talking about tonight. She was talking about you
in the UN and in particular you and women well
before any of the rest of us were.

Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
Like.

Speaker 1 (02:17:04):
She really was ahead of the curve on everything. And
you know, as I said on Tuesday, if you haven't,
you should look up her name on YouTube and watch
watch videos of her interviews and videos historically historical videos

(02:17:27):
of her working at the refuge that she started.

Speaker 2 (02:17:35):
There.

Speaker 1 (02:17:36):
It goes okay, I like that just keeps going off,
but you have to you have to see for yourself
or you know, if you're if you follow me on
X scroll back through my my posts on my main
page and you should be able to see my posts
of YouTube videos of Aaron. Just avoid posts by the

(02:17:59):
ex Patriarch. I repost any of those, but like that
guy's full of shit and nothing that he has to
say is of any value. But everything else, like the
the direct videos of Aaron speaking and Aaron working, and
the women that Aaron worked with talking about their experiences

(02:18:20):
and about the refuge and everything that that information is
something that should not be lost. So I would love
to see people, you know, go and watch those and
learn about her. And there was also a website I

(02:18:41):
believe it was called honest Ribbon dot org that was
created to correct some misstatements by White Ribbon dot org
because Aaron Aaron looked through that and their stuff is
absolutely not factual. So yeah, Aaron was a hell of

(02:19:03):
a woman. Uh And yeah, our man mentioned Man Woman
Myth the Man Woman Myth documentary on on YouTube is
amazing that that was a great place to start. I
know we had her on a fireside chat. I tweeted that,
I posted that on x as well, so uh And

(02:19:23):
and she's had a lot of videos where she was
talking to dian Esme when he was involved with a
Voice for Men. And she did a lot of work
with a Voice for Men, a lot of work with
the National Coalition for Men, a lot of work in
UH Canada with men's organizations. She did work with Cafe.
She did anything that she could to to try to

(02:19:47):
get people to understand. Yeah, Teleomere's Richarder, I didn't know
if I said that, but to get people to understand
what really needs to happen in order to reduce and
maybe ultimately eliminate the phenomenon of domestic violence like that

(02:20:09):
that would if people had listened to her, that would
already be well on its way. So in the meantime,
let me see if we have I don't know if
we've had any super chows since Meredith. I don't think
we have so and I didn't see any super chats
go through or any rumble oriants. So I'm gonna call
it we are at the end of the episode. Next

(02:20:32):
week will start in we'll look at some of the
other rights that these women think that men already have
and and women don't. So just just on your own,
you know, maybe comment under the video ways in which

(02:20:54):
some of these rights that we talked about tonight that
women are demanding that if you've got examples demonstrating that
men don't have those rights or that those rights are
not protected, go ahead and share them. Things that have
happened to people, you know, things that have happened to you,
things that you've witnessed, like the things that I talked about.

(02:21:19):
You you can always respond to that, especially like I'm
curious to hear what other guys think of that that
incident at the hospital, because the day that I heard that,
the day that he came in and you know, he
was traumatized, and we just sat and talked. H There
wasn't really much else to do about that, And I

(02:21:42):
was just completely floored. Nobody ever has asked me to
do anything even remotely like that, because I'm a woman,
and I can't imagine what it must have been like
for him standing in that doorway, looking out at an
angry outburst from the community in the form of dozens
of people flocking around just that one doorway, and and

(02:22:07):
the whole building being surrounded by yelling, angry people, and
knowing that the only thing that he had in his
possession to stop anyone from getting past him if they
were to break in through that door, were his bare hands.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
If anyone's wondering if we're going to keep doing UN
women forever, I mean, as long as U and women exist,
that's a very real possibility.

Speaker 1 (02:22:37):
It could be. We were we were going to be
doing you know, women's suffrage history forever too, and we
have we're on a break from that. We were going
to be doing federal funding forever, and we were on
a break from that. We don't keep doing we should.

Speaker 2 (02:22:55):
Keep doing this until we should keep doing this until
both of these things stop existing. I mean, the UN
in general should stop existing, but it should start with
UN women, and hopefully, once UN women stops existing, the
UN and itself will disintegrate and collapse, as it very

(02:23:15):
well probably would and probably should, because that's always been
what it's about. The devil presents itself with a pretty face.
That's that's the warning with which we've presented with which
has been presented this whole time, and that's why so
many people think the UN is the devil, because it is.

(02:23:37):
And that's why so many people think that the devil
will present itself with a female face, because the female
face is the most neot Is that right? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:23:52):
Yeah? In any case, thanks everybody for listening, Thanks Mike
for go through this with me, and Brian for working
in the background to make sure that we're able to
do this, and everybody else that works to make HBr
Talk happen. Remember next week, due to circumstances in my life,

(02:24:14):
HBr Talk will be on Tuesday night and HBr News
will be on Thursday night, So it'll be the show
will be at seven pm on Tuesday and six pm
on Thursday Eastern Standard time. And I can't remember what
that is GMT, so what it is in the UK,

(02:24:37):
because that's the one that it's.

Speaker 2 (02:24:39):
Either eleven or twelve something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:43):
So well, what time was it when we started? What
time was it where you were?

Speaker 2 (02:24:48):
Is midnight usually.

Speaker 1 (02:24:50):
Okay Thursdays, so midnight GMT for HBr Talk on Tuesday,
and then it will be eleven pm g MD for
HBr News on Thursday, so that's two different times there
we go, so you guys, guys have it and then
the following week we'll go back to normal. But that way,

(02:25:13):
it just just a bunch of stuff has has occurred,
including mandatory training that I go through. That's just an
annual thing. Uh, if you work in my profession, and
it's limited when when it can be done. So thanks
for all of that and good night all.

Speaker 2 (02:25:35):
See your next cunt.