UN Women plans to “counter” the manosphere | HBR Talk 372

UN Women’s complaints about the manosphere include typical mischaracterizations, and a familiar plan of attack. Tonight we’re going to do a bit more looking into one of the sources from their recent report, “What is the manosphere and why should we care?” We may also get to UN women’s follow-up article on “how to counter the manosphere.”

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Two one, Hello and welcome to HBER Talk three seventy two.
You and women plans to counter the Manisphere. Remember, guys,
everything we're going to read today is in an item
that was linked to that under that rubric. This is
this is what we're going to do to stop the Manisphere.

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at the top of the page. And there we go, guys,
Let me really quick, there we go. Had to close
some things on my one My desktop computer is getting
old and I'm stubbornly refusing to replace it because I
like this computer, but it's so old that I can't

(02:28):
update it past systemates. For someday, I'm gonna have no choice.
That's old, like those computers that ran on Windows ninety
five for like ten years. Which again, you know, there's
certain reasons, right why people white people refuse to upgrade.

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You get some features you like, and the upgrade has
some things you don't like. There you go. But eventually, I,
like I said, I will have no choice in the meantime,
so we read last week, we read some of what
they were already doing here. I think we went all
the way through the blue text, but or at least

(03:12):
as much as I was going to read, and and
how this organized effort is partly behind the ability of
people who don't like what you're saying to mass report
your account for things like, oh, you posted a birthday cake. No,
we see child porn. There, we're going to mass report

(03:35):
that as child porn. And then you get banned and
you don't get a chance to appeal, and and that's it,
like there you're gone. And that's been going on for
quite some time. We're about to find out a little
bit out about why.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
So sorry, but that was so retarded.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
That cake that Janet made was a beautiful wedding cake.
She did every thing by hand. It was nothing wrong
with that picture. But the retards on Twitter said, regod,
we got to get here, ready here, and they just complied.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yep, sick. Yeah, it was. It's one of what literally
what happened was so many people reported it that the
platform's system for handling the people to handle those reports,
besides the fact that they hired a bunch of people
that specifically had it in for MRAs and and people
who were involved in gamer Gate, they the people who

(04:35):
you know, had to read the reports and then go
check the item out. They just decided that they weren't
going to deal with it and uh and they just
banned her. They just perma banter. Usually, if you get
like if your kind of gets locked, you get a
suspension or something like that. For something, you have an
appeal and you click on appeal and then they have
to review it. And when they were they're reviewing it,

(04:57):
you have to wait. And instead of allowing that this
time she didn't have that option, you couldn't appeal. You
just you just get an announcement that your account has
been suspended and it's permanent and you can't make new accounts,
and that's it. It doesn't usually stop abusers on the
platform from doing that. But you know, she ended up

(05:19):
with other reasons why she couldn't come back, and that
was that we pretty much lost an advocate, and that
was the start of it. So yeah, no, the cake
didn't say replacement theory on it, jin bottle. In fact,
at that time we weren't even talking about that. The
big sin would have been if it said gamergate hashtag

(05:41):
gamer gate, that would have like pissed them all off.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, that was pre gamer Gate.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
And I have to credit Janet for even bringing me
into or roping me. And I don't know if it
was necessarily her fault per se, but her voice was
one of the first voices that I ever saw online
talking about women against feminism, and that hashtag blew up

(06:08):
in part because of her, you know, And so.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Set out to Jada Bloomfield, wherever you are on this
lovely blue ball that we liked core Earth and we
miss you.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Very much. She was a juggernaut for the movement. It
was really nice having her involved. But in any case,
like I said this, this kind of stuff has been
going on for a while. It was I want to say,
back in twenty twelve when women action and media started

(06:40):
pressuring Twitter for a report button on your profile so
that they could report you if they didn't like your
your overall, like, oh you you talk about men's issues,
Well we want to get rid of your account right now.
It's got to be gone, man, bye bye.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, with that being their goal, and they did successfully
achieve that. That that was kind of like one of
the earliest here, we're going to try to censor everybody
efforts that I recall on that platform. Reddit already had
stuff going on. In fact, I remember discussing that as

(07:19):
it was happening. I remember discussing that on Reddit, that
this was happening on Twitter, and pretty soon it was
going to be everywhere, and people are like, nah, you're
you're crazy, you're paranoid, you shut up, you know, and
now it's everywhere, And people didn't realize just how much
organized effort there was behind that, where it wasn't just

(07:43):
one group, you know, doing this on their own with
a few angry women writing to advertisers and throwing timper tantrums.
And that's how this happened. There is actually a multi
organizational coordinated campaign against your free speech, against your ability

(08:03):
to communicate with the people around you and talk politics,
hash out ideas and decide, you know who, whose campaign
speeches you like, and whose campaign ads you believe, and
what policies you want to support by voting for the
people who say, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna enact this
policy or what government changes you might like by voting,

(08:28):
you know, by voting for people who might be eliminating
certain policies and stuff. These people want to make it
so that you cannot evaluate together those ideas. You can't
hear what other people think of them. You don't get
a chance to agree or disagree because you're not allowed

(08:49):
to know. You're not allowed to know. Like if I
read something that Ohio is going to do and I think,
you know, that's bullshit, This is this, This has you know,
six or seven different problems, and I decide I want
to lay them out on Twitter and describe them. Because
this was back in the day when when X was Twitter.
They want to be able to ban me so that

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other people aren't influenced by my opinions on those subjects
and Ohio has done a few things that are kind
of underhanded. We've had an organization come through here and
reduce the size of majority that it takes to get
something put into our state constitution, and then they used
that to put into our state constitution that killing babies

(09:36):
before they're born is medical care and the state has
to not interfere with it. And and it's like, not
everybody in the state agrees with that. They barely got
a majority, and that was a majority of people who
actually voted that election on that issue. Not everybody even

(09:57):
knew that issue was on the ballot. So very sneaky stuff, right,
And this is very sneaky stuff too, Right. So that
paragraph that we read last week about identifying people, identifying
who they've blocked, being able to like track what they're
doing and communicate with each other and coordinate to get

(10:20):
you banned from social media, it's skipping some of the
other stuff here. This actually really caught my eye. Already
existing cross platform efforts and crisis protocols, such as the
Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism's Content Incident Protocol, which

(10:40):
is a hell of a mouthful and you can't pronounce
it as like what radicalization vector for violent extremism that alone.
Initially it could could go right under your radar because like, oh,
this long organization with a long name might add some
online online flap fights between women and men or feminists

(11:04):
and MRAs. Okay, whatever, Right, so you look into what
is this? So I looked up the name they gave
and there is no such thing, but there is one
without the apostrophees on terrorism. So they spelled it wrong,
and it leads ultimately to this right here, the Global
Internet Form to counter terrorism, which is going to make

(11:28):
me accept the same cookies every time because I can
click accept cookies all I want, and then my computer's like, fuck,
you know, no cookies because I.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I don't accept cookies they have full of sugar and collar.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, if I did that, I would be in better
shape right now. What's really what's really shitty about this
website though, is uh, if you click read more so
that you can like reject their cookies and everything, it
goes to pages talking about you know the fact that
they are very good about making sure that you can
reject their cookies and blah blah blah, but they never

(12:02):
there's nothing offered that actually allows you to do that.
Your only actual functional option is to accept the cookies.
So it's kind of like going to your grandma's house.
Your only actual functional option is to accept the cookies.
But yeah, these these guys have there, They've got a
whole setup and they have The way that they've got

(12:24):
this site designed kind of reminds me of something college
students would do when they were they're trying to present
something to classroom here, and you can sort of see
what their politics are based on what they're like. Gen
Z and ghost guns trends, threats, and implications. So the
fact that people can now have guns that essentially you

(12:45):
really have a much harder time keeping people from keeping
the public from having access to weapons of self defense
and stuff. You really can't eliminate so called ghost guns.
They're going to try, right, They're going to do everything
they possibly can to get rid of these, but the

(13:09):
reality is that they are they're really trying to use
a bucket to clear out a flood in doing that,
and so they're panicking over it and they're writing all
these articles about, you know, how terrible it is that
people can can bypass government systems and get guns anyway.

(13:31):
So that's definitely a left wing view, and they have
more like this virtual world's real threats violent extremist, exploitation
of robots, and while they're gaming ecosystems. So people playing
video games online aren't a threat now. And granted there
have been issues on some of these platforms, but the

(13:51):
main issue that's actually happened on online gaming platforms has
been parents letting underage kids play games unsupervised way where
adults are also able to play those games and communicate
with them, and that always leads to trouble. If you
put your child in an environment where strangers can contact
them and you don't know they're being contact contacted, you

(14:14):
are setting your child up to be contacted by predators.
And that happened on Roadblocks made the news most recently.
That's happened on a few places, so you know, this
is who they are. Though basically, you know what's funny.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I'm starting to pay attention to the stock market and
I've got a little bit invested here and there or whatever,
but Roadblock stock, even in light of this, is kind
of taking off.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's not anything that I
thought would happen.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
But I guess it's extremely popular.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Involved myself in it at all because it sounds like
it's something that's intended for kids. Yeah, and I don't
really have any interest in that if like doing something
is mostly interested or mostly interested mostly intended to be
fun for kids, you know, unless I was taking a

(15:11):
kid with me. You know, like it's fun to go
to the zoo because your kid is there and you
get to see the wonder on their face when they're
looking at the zoo animals. You know, it's not so
much fun to to like dumb your entertainment down to
kid level again as an adult, unless it's like Looney
Tunes where there were jokes for adults in it that

(15:34):
went over the kids' heads most of the time.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And you know, with that being said, like I work
with grown adult men who are outside the job catching Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, and I can see that one, because there's at
least a challenge to that, you know, you have, There's
there's a competitiveness going on there. I know a lot
of adults that still play that, especially if they grew
up playing it. Millennials are apparently really into Pokemon Go,

(16:06):
so or at least some of them. And I've worked
with them. But I don't think going into something like roadblocks,
I don't think it's the same. It just seems like
that's a completely different environment and it looks more like
it's about dressing up and socializing with other people that
sound like they're your age. So but in any case,

(16:26):
like the whole thing to me, a lot of this
stems from people offloading responsibility for their experiences, their activities,
their safety, their kids, the way they raise their kids,
and all of that from themselves on to government, as
if it is a good thing to have government be
responsible for things that you know, throughout history people have

(16:50):
been responsible for themselves, like making sure other adults are
not talking to your child without your your permission and
are not exploiting your child, doing harm to your child,
making sure somebody is watching what your child does on
the internet, Like that's not your job as a parent,
it is, right, right, So this is what that has enabled.

(17:12):
That is why every time we come across a story
about you know, this website is allowing exploitation of children
or that you know, yeah, I'll talk about what's going on,
But at the same time, every time you're gonna hear
me go on a rant about what a parent's responsibility is,
because when you offload that responsibility to the government, you're

(17:36):
not just putting your child at risk, you're also putting
everyone else's ability to have conversations about ordinary political issues
like whether or not you want to tolerate a particular
procedure in your state, whether you want people to be
able to get illicit drugs, whether you want the government

(17:56):
to make that decision for people, or people to make
that decision for them, and even things like, well, your
city's planning on putting a street through this park, and
everybody's all up in arms about it on both sides.
Can you have that conversation or has the fact that
people offload their responsibility for their own children's safety to

(18:18):
the government then used to make it difficult for you
to have political conversations on social media with people that
you don't run into in person without getting into trouble
with some censorship site for using the wrong words and phrases.
We'll get into exactly what that means right here. So

(18:38):
this protocol that this forum has, they call it the
Content Incident Protocol, their highest level of incident response framework,
which means they are also doing other things just so
you know, but it's activated when the perpetrators are accomplices
of a terrorist or violent extremist attack, record video, or

(19:00):
live streaming attack, any content is shared on one of
their member platforms. Now that sounds again on the surface,
on its face, that sounds like, well, they're not doing
anything bad here. They're they're tracking and identifying, you know,
who's who's sharing these violent attacks, who's streaming that they're
shooting people and stuff like that. But unfortunately that's not

(19:22):
where it stops, right. They are then supporting these these
members which they're contributing. A hash isn't like hashtags, it
is they have a way of encrypting or estimating, estimating
large swatches of content. So let's say if they did

(19:47):
this with the picture of the cake. Let's say every
MRA shared that cake and it had been flagged as
one of these extremist attack videos or a picture from
an extrememist attack. Or let's say they did it with
the Charlie Kirk shooting, and they might have I doubt it,

(20:07):
but they could have, and everybody that shared any content
that had an image of that shooting or video of
that shooting or artwork that was made using an approximation,
and possibly anyone who has ever shared any images and
video of Charlie Kirk sitting in a chair on a

(20:28):
stage talking to people, those might all have been flagged.
And it's designed so that Facebook, if they have that
going on, they can alert X. If they've got all
that going on, they can alert Reddit and you can
find out where the spread of this has gone all
over the place, and they can actually figure out, you know,

(20:49):
what other speeches associated with this, what other things are
people saying in association with this, And in addition to
figuring that out, they can also figure out which people
are associated with it, and uh, you know who who
does silence? And they may not limit that to people
who are promoting some sort of violence or celebrating some

(21:14):
sort of violence, like this net could catch people that,
you know, six months before the shooting, they post a
video from one of one of his events. Uh and
and said he said, X y Z, I agree. I
think we need to start being more like this, you know,
completely not involved in any kind of violence and actually

(21:36):
supporting the guy. So this is something that these social
media are now, or these these organized organized groups of
social media, because not everybody is in this but there
there are several member organizations. This is something that they're
using to identify groups and their networks and try to

(21:58):
cut off their ability to communicate with each other. And
they're not just using it against groups like al Qaeda
and Antifa and other violent groups. This back to the
They want this to be used to identify people who
say things that feminists consider misogynistic. So they want that

(22:21):
protocol activated toward, say, somebody who says women shouldn't vote,
even if they're joking. They want it to be used
to shut up anybody who suggests that the Violence Against
Women Act should be repealed and replaced with a gender

(22:42):
neutral family violence Act like the Family Violence Victims Services.
Oh gosh, it's been a while since I've talked about this.
They Family Violence Prevention and Services Act of nineteen eighty four,
which was gender neutral and could have simply been expanded
on its own instead of having Violence Against Women Act

(23:03):
inserted into it to gender everything they could talk about.
They could take our content and decide anybody that listens
to us is a radical, and y'all are going to
do something violent, even though nobody in the men's rights
movement ever really has, Even though they've tried to associate
us with.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
It right time and time again.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, so this is what they want. They want this
protocol to consider how online gender based violence just relevant
to their scope and mandates how to strengthen mechanisms appropriately
recognizing misogyny as a radicalization vector for violent extremism. Remember, guys,
it's misogynistic to tell a woman no. In today's world

(23:43):
yep suggest, for instance, that there needs to be welfare
reform to discourage bringing children into the world without a
plan to support them, and that's considered misogynistic. Suggests that
it's just as bad to rape a man as it
is to rape a woman. That's misogynistic. Suggests that female
teachers that exploit their male students are not hot teachers,

(24:06):
that the students should be happy about getting molested by misogyny.
Can you imagine being silenced because not you, but your
friend talked about that, and maybe you commented under his
post with your opinion.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Crazy right, Or.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Maybe the New York Post posted another news story about
another teacher that's been arrested and jailed for it, and
you've seen tons of people under there going, oh, wish
my teachers were like that, or it's not the same.
It's not the same. He can't get pregnant. And you
put in your two cents and suddenly your band or

(24:44):
shadow band and people who talk to you are seeing
problems with their accounts because you discussed the issue. So
that's the thing I wanted to get across with this
they're talking about. Well, for example, here the EUS twenty
twenty two strengthen Code for Practice on Disinformation includes commitment

(25:04):
to operate channels that we've changed between their relevant teams
in order to proactively share information about cross platform influence
operations for an interference and information space and relevant incidents
that merge on their respective services with the aim of
preventing dissemination and resurgence on other services. And how has

(25:25):
that manifested? In the UK, they are arresting little old
grannies for posting mild comments on the Internet about the
recent violence incidents that have occurred in their country because
it's not politically correct to acknowledge who the perpetrators are.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, yeah, did you see the video of the UK
police knocking on the door of I guess some twelve
year old was looking at some posts that they deemed
was you know, offensive, or hurtful or whatever, and they
came to the house, knocked on the door to confiscate

(26:08):
the phone the property of you know, the parents in
the home, ostensibly because the kid didn't buy it with
his own money, I would assume. But yeah, no, this
is what they're doing in the UK.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's viewed an image, Yeah, viewed, Yeah, like they were.
We were shocked when they did it because somebody clicked
light on a comment.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
And this is what they want to do to the
rest of the world. I just I don't know how
anyone is looking at this and not seeing it for
what it is. Yeah, it's just disgusting behavior and we
should all be up in arms about that, because again
it's it's coming to a neighborhood near you if they can,

(26:53):
if they can brainwash people that you know, you're being
offensive two women, because let's face it, that's who they
care about. They don't care if a man takes offense
at something that somebody said or liked.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Or dislike online, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
No. In fact, if you argue with somebody who says,
you know, oh, ninety nine percent of rapists are men.
That alone. If you are in Europe, can get you arrested.
You have offended this person. They're scared of you. Now
all they have to do is say I feel in
safe cry beuliying now gets people arrested in Europe. And

(27:35):
so when you see these protocols, you see this discussion
about this is what we're doing, and this is how
we're going to stop the terrorists. They're not talking about
al Qaeda, right, They're talking about children, right, pensioners for
people in UK, retirees, for people in the United States.
You know, they're talking about a parent getting arrested because

(27:58):
their child read a political statement online on Facebook on
a phone that the parent paid for, or personal property
being confiscated so that you can't see something that criticizes,
say climate change science. Right, it's really simple. If that

(28:20):
science holds up, if that evaluation was accurate, and you're
reading something that questions it, you should be able to
have a discussion with somebody who thinks that the thing
you're reading is inaccurate, and they should be able to
provide you with information proving their point.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, so you need to block that, right.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
And so what I don't understand about that whole story,
I don't understand why they needed if they already knew
that the child had looked at this post or whatever,
or access this website or whatever the hell it was,
why they need to compass the physical.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Phone you already know that they did.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Probably probably because they're accusing the child of using something
like a VPN or other means of bypassing. Something else
that's happened in Europe is their their web services, their
access services for you know, various people like AT and T.

(29:26):
I'm on it used to be Time Warner and I
can't think of the stupid name of it. In the
spectrum on spectrum here, you're on the spectrum. Comcast, Yeah,
I am on the spectrum. That's the funny part. But
like Comcasts some of these other companies, there are companies,
similar companies in the UK. Some of the same companies
might even be operating in the UK now at this point,
I don't know. They use a system that blocks access

(29:50):
to certain websites and certain content, just like China does,
to keep people in those countries from viewing political content
that might challenge the establishment. The political establishments narratives about
here's how things are going in Europe and here's how
you should be living and this is what's popular, and

(30:12):
you know, popular opinion and so on, because they do
still believe that if they tell people something is popular opinion,
that it'll change people's minds about whether it's right or wrong.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
That's how brainwashed that society is. That's scary.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
And so now they have this system where if you
out to Facebook, for instance, and something is posted on
Facebook that isn't visible in your country, and you use
a VPN to view it, and they have to leave
it visible in the US, but in your country it's

(30:49):
deemed misogyny and so you're not allowed to see it.
Facebook can then alert the authorities and read it x YouTube,
you know, all the different platforms that you might be using,
and suggest that you shouldn't have access to those platforms
because you're bypassing the safety protocols that keep you from

(31:16):
seeing misogynistic content that you know might make you radicalized
and cause you to go stabby, stabby and all that crap,
even though the people doing that are not doing that
because they saw some post on Facebook about women and
making sandwiches.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, it makes me want to go stabby, stabby,
but for a completely different reason.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, I'm I'm better at jabber jaw than stabby stabby.
I would refer to like, this is why this is
such a big threat to me, because I don't want
to be the person going out into the streets with
with torches and pitchforks. I want to be the person
with the poison pin. Yeah, aimed directly at the enemy.
And then in my situation, the enemy is anyone who

(32:03):
says that your sex is a valid reason or your
race is a valid reason to discriminate against you as
a means of getting one's own back for another group
that is claimed to be oppressed in the past, or
your modern oppression. The enemy is anyone who says you

(32:25):
can't make your own decisions, you can't evaluate information on
your own. You have to do what you're told, and
you have to believe what you're told to believe. That's
the enemy. You can't destroy that You can destroy that
enemy with a big enough army, but you can't destroy
that enemy by throwing temper tantrums in the street alone.
You have to be able to communicate with each other

(32:46):
and get more people on board with let's vote for
somebody else, because these people are crazy. Yeah, so that's
why they want beach to be limited. They don't want
to lose their path. Prometheus just gave us two dollars on.
Oh no, that's twenty eight dollars on, Rumble, thank you. No,

(33:07):
it wasn't Prometheus either. It's Occupant forty two just gave
us twenty dollars on that came up on my screen
in this weird combination of magenta and mauve, so two
different colors of purplish pink with fluorescent blue and green

(33:30):
imagery and white lettering, and it is it's literally standing
out from my screen. It looks like it's an inch
in front of my screen because my eyesight is fucked up.
Why did they do that to me? Rumble? What the fuck?
Get your shit together? Okay, So Occupant forty two gave

(33:51):
us twenty dollars and said speech is dangerous to a
lot of things, and it is most dangerous to tyranny.
Freedom is scary, deal with it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Freedom is like going on the monkey bars at the
park without a safety net or an adult to catch you.
The adult that that isn't there to catch you also
can't tell you that it's not okay to jump from
one side of the monkey bars to the other and
grab the bars on the other side and hoist yourself
up to get away from the person you're playing monkey
bar tag with and shock the shit out of everybody.

(34:24):
But it's fun as hell to do that. And it
would have really sucked if we'd have had that safety
net because I never would have learned how to do that.
And freedom is like that. Whoever you are in the world,
there are things that you can get good at, things
that you can do that may be unique to you

(34:45):
or rare among the people around you, and you're one
of the few people that can do it, or that's
good at it, or that has thought of it, understands it, whatever,
And freedom of speech allows you to fully explore that
and participate in that.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well, it also.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Limits your access to it and your creativity.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, but what it also does is allows your ideas
to be challenged. If you're playing around on the monkey
bars and you miss the bar and you slip and fall,
well you learned a valuable lesson there, right, And this
is what they're trying to do. They think that they're
protecting us from this hurting pain, you know, or the

(35:33):
idea of being hurt by you know, ideas or thoughts
or even physical pain. But it doesn't help. It hinders you.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
You know, you have to you have to learn how
to take a fall to be able to get better
at what it is that you're doing.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yep. And you also have to be able to like
if you fall down every time you try that, one
of the guys is eventually going to say, you know,
she's really good at that, but you're not. Maybe you
should do something friend instead. Yeah, And that's it's the
same thing in real life. You know, this discussion for instance,
about til and all and all right, So I'm gonna

(36:13):
try to make this as brief and dumb down as
I can. And this is I started learning about this
when I was pregnant, So this is the information that
I've been considering for the last you know, like twenty
six years. But your bodily systems are not independent of
each other. They are interdependent. They are interconnected, They are interactive.

(36:35):
You have one body and a whole bunch of little
little aspects to it that all work together. And that
includes your immune system and your central nervous system and
your peripheral nervous system, and also your intocrine system, your
your your body's waste disposal system. So thil and all
is really bad for your liver. Your liver and your

(36:58):
kidneys have to process that out every time you take it.
They do that with every drug you take, and even
like even though it's considered like one of the most
harmful drugs on the market, it is still not food.
You're not using the whole thing up and applying it
to your bodily systems and then producing weight and waste
and turning that into something and getting rid of it.

(37:20):
Part of that has to just be processed out. It
has an effect on your bodily systems, your cells, and
then it continues through your bloodstream and gets filtered out
by your indocrine system. It's not food, and most drugs

(37:41):
are like that, aside from supplements that are nutritional supplements.
That's how they operate. You're not building new cells out
of them like you do your food. They're they're affecting
your cells and then they're being flushed out of your
system and you're river and your kidneys have to do

(38:02):
that job right and at the same time these specific
effects they're having different things like non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs,
so drugs that they're not steroids, but they do stop
inflammation or reduce inflammation, that they dampen your body's inflammatory
responses to injury or illness or allergies. They all have

(38:28):
an effect on your brain. They all have an effect
on your brain chemistry. And this is the other thing
people don't consider. You take a pill and it has
a drug in it, and that drug goes into your bloodstream.
Your blood circulates throughout your entire body no matter what
you took. So just because the pain is in your

(38:48):
head doesn't mean the drug targets just cells in your
head that the nerve cells in your head that are
screaming everything gets it. It goes through your whole body.
It's one of the reasons why doses are as high
as they are because it's going to go through your
whole body, and a little bit of it's going to
go to where the nerves hurt, and the rest of
it is going to other parts of the body that

(39:11):
you don't need it. And so when you take tailan
All for a fever versus or you take thailand All
for headache, or you take tilan all for you hit
your thumb with a hammer or some anything like that,
your whole body is getting dosed. With it, okay, and
it does still affect There's there's a direct connection, a

(39:31):
direct communication network with neurotransmitters back and forth between your
immune system, which controls your inflammation, and your central nervous system.
So when you affect that immune system, you're affecting that
central nervous system, and you are making your brain do
extra work or you are impacting your brain. And I

(39:52):
don't know if tilanol passes the blood brain barrier, but
it probably does a lot of things do that people
don't think about, and it can effect that as well.
And at the same time, you have other substances that
do the opposite. So taile and all inhibits an aspect

(40:12):
of your immune system, and so it messes with that communication.
The communication comes in and the tile and all gets
in the way. It's no, we're not gonna do that.
We're not gonna win flame, or we're gonna winflame a
lot less. And you're hitting yourself with it every four
to six hours, and you're hitting yourself with it. You know,

(40:33):
whatever the regular dose you take, I think it's like
three hundred and twenty five milligrams or something, You're you're
using four times that every day. And your liver and
your kidneys are processing that every day and your brain
is being affected by that.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
And the more you use it, the more it's well, yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
You you what the fuck is the word? You adapt
to it?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Right, Well, it has a cumulative effect. You build up
a tolerance and then people start taking more. But also
the effect is cumulative, right, It's like you're whacking at
your brain with a little tiny hammer. And then on
top of that, right when you do this with children
for instance, Okay, there's a time in a child's life
right now, especially in the United States, where they're on

(41:16):
this vaccine schedule. And I've argued with people on I've
been on the other side of this argument, so you know,
go ahead and call me a conspiracy theorist if you want.
But vaccines do the opposite of tail and all they
are immune system stimulators. They're they're stimulating an immune response.
That's their job, and in moderation and without interference, they

(41:44):
do a good job when they're used correctly. But we've
gone way overboard. And it's not just a matter of
overstimula over stimulating the immune system. It's a matter of
competing types of stimulation. So so a lot of moms,
despite doctors saying don't do this, prepare their child for

(42:08):
their vaccine and the pain they're going to have from
the shot and the fever they might get in everything,
which the fever is important. If you get a little fever,
as long as it's not a huge fever, that's your
immune system doing what it's supposed to do in response
to the vaccine. Right, So a lot of moms give
their kids tail and all right before they get vaccinated.

(42:28):
And so now you have this immune system stimulator being
put in to the system saying all right, we want
you to identify this substance as an enemy and create
immune cells that will remember that's the enemy. And then
if it ever comes in on its own, you know,
after you've beaten up this half dead version of it,

(42:49):
or dead version of it in some cases, be able
to attack the live army attacking your body and competed
with it with thailanol going well, except for immune response
that that is that involves inflammation, you can't do that part,
but that's essential. That part's essential. Inflammation exists to help

(43:10):
you fight invaders and flush them out. So it's it's
really dangerous, right, So we have this discussion going on,
and there is solid reasoning for considering that repeatedly battering
the brain during gestation and then throughout early childhood with

(43:31):
an immuno an immunosuppressant drug essentially that suppresses one element
of what your immune system does, might cause brain injuries,
like repeated little tiny brain injuries that can lead to
you being on the autism spectrum. And there is evidence
to support that that is is demonstrably true, and it's

(43:53):
not in every case thing, but it does happen. A
polypharmacy can do that to you too. I suspect that
that was really what happened to me. I was on
a broad spectrum of medications when I was growing up
that included, like at some points in my childhood, six
different steroids at the same time, plus other medications. So
it might be might be the reason why I have

(44:14):
difficulty with certain things. That's a brain injury. Autism stemming
from something like that is a brain injury. And there
may be people who instead of developing autism, they developed
some other thing that they're more susceptible to that they
may have a different genetic predisposition to You can be
genetically predisposed to ADHD. You can be genetically predisposed to

(44:37):
things like schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, anything that can go wrong
with your brain. In terms of like, now, this is
going to make your life a little bit harder and
you're going to have to take extra steps to be
able to do things the way everybody else is easily
able to do them. That if you have a brain injury,
it can make it more likely for that to manifest.
You don't have the workarounds that you might have been

(44:59):
able to to do with your brain growing up may
not happen. So that discussion has been taking place. As
a result, there have been there's been this flood of
women making videos in response because Trump's the one that
said it. Look at him being Thailand all while I'm pregnant.

(45:21):
Look at me, I'm taking a shitload of Thailand. All.
There is a woman now that is dying because she
took a shitload of Thailand. All. Oh my god, she
caused liver failure in her own body. She's pregnant, her
baby could also die. If the baby doesn't die, the
baby's going to be in the Neonatal and Infants Intensive

(45:41):
care unit for a long time. And it's going to
be a painful journey for that baby. And this is
not the fault of the company that produced tiland All.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
When I was pregnant a quarter of a century ago plus,
my doctor said, anything that you can live without. In
terms of my medication, don't take it right now. It's
not worth the risk. If you can survive a headache,
don't take thailand All. It's not recommended to take any
medication you don't have to take when you're pregnant unless

(46:13):
you're going to die from not taking it. It's a
it's you know, you really have to evaluate what could
this do to my child? You know. And similarly, there's
advice online that says, yeah, you can, it's okay if
you just have one drink when you're praying. My doctor suggested,
you know, what's nine months out of your whole life

(46:37):
of not drinking. What is so important about alcohol that
you can't go nine months? And my thought on it
was the same way. Nine fricking months, not even a year.
You go to the first twenty one years of your life,
you know, not being legally allowed to have it in
the United States, and not one of us has died

(46:57):
from not drinking alcohol while we were growing up, right
when our brains were forming. They probably should change that
to twenty five because then your brain's done reaching it's
it's full potential in terms of physical development. But yeah,
that's I had a good doctor. A good doctor tells

(47:18):
you shit like it is. A good doctor does not
hedge on stuff like that, you know, So it would
be better if you can, if you can do without this,
it would be better if you did, you know. And
and you really have to consider everything that you swallow,
then your body processes and gets into your bloodstream is

(47:38):
going to get into the system that feeds your baby.
And so I didn't take anything I didn't have to.
I didn't even drink coffee when I was pregnant because
I didn't want to affect You don't know what caffeine
does to the to the to the fetus. Yeah, if
you're you're growing a human being and you want to

(48:00):
give that human being the best possible start in life,
you don't take stupid chances. Yeah, but that is the
way certain political outlooks respond like, fuck you, I'm gonna
do this. I'm gonna do what I want, and I
don't care about the potential risk to the baby. That's
the way that they responded. Now, imagine how much worse

(48:22):
that has to be in an environment where Trump's political
opponents can delete all of the Taylanol's comments on next
for the last ten years where they said some variation
on we do not recommend using our products, any of

(48:44):
our products while you're pregnant. Because they did there and
I've seen some of those, like the direct tweets, not
the screenshots of those tweets, Like, imagine if that could
be quashed. Imagine if that video of the nurse describing
this is what's going on with this woman who didn't identify.
So for anybody going, oh, she's violated him, I know
she hasn't because she didn't say who the woman was.

(49:05):
But imagine if that was quashed and more people did
that because people couldn't see this is the consequence of
doing that. Maybe you shouldn't try it. So this this
strengthened code of practice on disinformation, allowing Facebook and x
and Reddit to communicate to each other, well this this

(49:27):
is being passed around on our site, and these people
are we think these people are terrorists because misogyny or
they said something that goes against our establishment ideals. They
supported something that that drumph said, and so therefore we're
going to silence them. That's that's who's under attack. People
who might say, hey, you know, cool it, cool it
a little bit on the tile and all, because this

(49:48):
woman is going to die now you took. They don't
recommend using more than like three thousand milligrams a day
or micrograms whatever the measurement is in their pills. So
an extra I think an extra strength tilant all is
five hund and if you if you take one of
those every six hours, that that's uh, that's four pills

(50:08):
in a day. That's two thousand, So it's not much
above daily maximum dose what you would get if you
just took one extra strength silental every day or every
every four hours. They don't recommend more than you know,
two extra pills essentially a day, if you're even under

(50:28):
your worst circumstances with that and before anybody's like, well
this is this This woman must have taken an exceptional amount.
Maybe she did, but annually there are hundreds of people
that end up in the hospital with toxicity from this
because they have eaten these pills like candy without following

(50:49):
the manufacturer's instructions. And there are people who die every
year from this too.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, and everybody's body is different. You know that. People
don't take that into account, You don't.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
They don't think about that, right, And it's it's you know,
I've never you know, I've been fortunate enough in my
life where I typically I don't get headaches.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
I can't even tell you the last time I had
a headache that was so bad that I didn't just
drink a bunch of water and I was fine, you
know an hour or so later.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Well, nine times out of ten when you have a headache,
that's the problem is you're dehydrate.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Right right, right, But no, we are.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
We need that instant gratification, right, We need the instant
I'll just take this pill.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
I'll just take this and it'll make.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Me feel better right away, you know, instead of just
topping it out and saying, well, maybe I just want
to not put any kind of strange things into my body.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Maybe I just need to do, you know, drink some water.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Maybe I need to just go for a walk and
get up off the couch or whatever. You know, we
are and this is kind of one of the issues
that I have with the medical industry itself. It's they
prescribe things because they want to. They want patience, they
want repeat customers, you know. And granted, there are there

(52:11):
are medicines, and there are things that are necessary for
people to take to you know, relieve symptoms. And I'm
taking one now. I have egzima. Every two weeks, I
have to take a shot of depixel. It's hopeful as hell.
I hate it every single time I have to do it,
you know. But if I'm listening to my doctor, I'll

(52:32):
be on this thing for life. Whereas I know in
my mind, if I make radical changes to my diet,
radical changes to my lifestyle, I won't have to go
through that. I know that that is the case, I
know it, right, But but I'm lazy, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I like to live a life of convenience, right. I
like to drink alcohol.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
So putting that down is, you know, it's not that
I can't do it, but you know, I could just
take this shot every two weeks and I won't break
out in these itchy rashes, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
So it's it's really its mind over matter.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
In a lot of cases, in a lot of cases
that people really don't want to admit to. Right, It's
just like with O zipeth, Right, your body naturally makes
GLP one.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
No, but no, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (53:25):
We're telling people, Look, but all you have to do
is take this shot, this fifteen hundred dollars shot every
week or two weeks or whatever it is, and you'll
be skinny. You might have a host of other health
problems that cascade down from doing that. Right, if you
stop taking it, you will gain the way back, not immediately,

(53:46):
but indefinitely.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
You definitely will gain that weight back. You know.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
But we again, we are a society that is trained
to be living in this life of convenience.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
What is the easiest. We are the path of least resistance. Right.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You think about this song Mother's Little Helper, which was
essentially about products on the market that were sort of
to act as calming agents to women. They contained alcohol
en coding and copious amounts, and women were getting addicted
using the Mother's Little Helper to calm themselves down during
their their like difficult days of working in the kitchen

(54:30):
and overseeing the household and taking care of the family.
And that came out that song came out in the sixties.
This problem has been around for a long time. That
the idea that you have this instant solution a pill,
a shot, you know, a patch. Now now things coming
in patches. Sometimes that's better because it's it's going directly

(54:52):
to the spot. Like if you need if you have
an area that has chronic pain and you need to
be able to do work, and you need the pain
to not be happening so you can do work instead
of taking an aspirin or ibuprofen or tile and all
or neproxin or whatever. Maybe you wear a lyocane patch

(55:12):
and lightocane is one of those Like everybody's like, oh,
lightacanin's harmless, right, it's in, it's in tanning or not tanning,
but sunburned cream. The c ai any at the end
should tell you something, right, right, Guess where it comes from.
Guess what plant it comes from? Cocaine, Yes, the same
plant that cocaine comes from, novacane, lyocane, and there's another

(55:34):
drug and I can't think of the name of it,
but they all come from that plant. Lyocane is the
safest one of the bunch, and then you're not probably
gonna get addicted from wearing a pain patch every day.
But that's what your body is processing when you're when
you're using those. Yeah, I've had I've had to deal
with this too, right. I got a medical DNA test
trying to figure out why I have chronic pain, and

(55:56):
it came back with a whole bunch of stuff. And
one of the things that it came back with was
that there's a predisposition in my genetic heritage to my
kidney's not being so great. Like I got that piece
of information and that that was like instantly, the first
decision I made was, well, I'm gonna have to deal
with pain now because I'm not taking any more ibuprofen

(56:18):
and no more because that stuf's really rough on your kidneys,
rough on your liver too. No more alcohol for me.
It's not really important for me to drink that. There's
a lot of other things that are important, you know,
foods that are nutritious, and some of those can be
hard on your kidneys too, but you need the nutrients.
And if I'm going to cut something out, it's going
to be the thing I don't really need to use.
So there's a bunch of things I don't do anymore,

(56:38):
and a huge intake of water as opposed to just
drinking when I feel thirsty as a result of that.
Big changes. But these are things that you decide because
the information is available to you and you have the
right to evaluate it, and you can talk to your
doctor about it, and your doctor isn't prevented from talking

(56:59):
with you about your other options, as opposed to let's
let's fire off an instant pill we can make You
could choose to take a pill for this, or we
can make these radical dietary and exercise changes, and if
those don't work and you're really suffering, then then you
can consider the pill again. And that's kind of the

(57:19):
way that I do things because I have weaknesses that
if I just rely on medication, I have no idea
how much damage was already done during my childhood when
I was just inundated with all kinds of chemicals. But
I know that other members of my family in that
genetic line have had kidney failure in their old age,

(57:41):
which that age range in that branch of the family
for me starts in about seven years. So like it's
one of those things you want the right to evaluate
this stuff for yourself. And understand what decisions you're making
and not just have cookie cutter solutions for things and

(58:02):
be told cookie cutter information about your vote, the things
you're voting on and stuff, rather than you know this
this type of system that prevents you from having access
to information and uses terrorism as the excuse, Well, you
have to let us censor you because terrorism masology. You

(58:23):
have to let us censor you because misogyny, and this
is what they're saying. Committed channels could extend to incidents
of gendered or sexualized harassment campaigns. The one thing that
we have seen referred to in that manner, it's a
gendered or sexualized harassment campaign that was you can't talk

(58:44):
about the consumer revolt against hidden advertising, or not hidden advertising,
but advertising that's been disguised as reporting and rigged game
contests and rigged reviews and stuff like that, because the
way that you found out about it embarrasses a woman,

(59:06):
and therefore you're actually sexually harassing you every time you
talk about this subject that isn't about her right online
gender based violence. Oh my gosh. Talking about the fact
that some advertisements are being disguised as legitimate reporting is
literally the same as hitting Zoe Quinn in the face

(59:27):
with a wet sponge whap. You guys thought I was
gonna say something else in.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I did hang it there My brain went exactly there.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
So there you go. This is this is what they're
going to use this for. And this is what we've
got mapping terrorist ai use going going all out all
over the world, partnering with the christ Church Call Foundation,
uh Global Internet Forum to counter terrorism and so on. Right,

(59:57):
and uh so what is this thing? The Content Incident
Protocol is the highest level of our incident response framework.
It says, like we read before, activated, when the perpetrators
share a live stream, what are we doing right now
sharing live stream? No, there's no attack going on, right,
but it is a live stream. So if they use

(01:00:19):
live streams as the trigger for mechanism for this system,
they can tailor that to any group they decide are bad,
they're verboten, they're terrorists, and we have to get rid
of all their content. And suddenly everybody who watches our
live streams is flag everybody who shares them on other

(01:00:40):
social media. So for instance, we're streaming on we're streaming
on YouTube, we're streaming on Rumble, we're streaming on Facebook.
I believe we're streaming on x right now, got a
couple of other places that we stream, But it's also possible.
There's like dozens of little social media sites that aren't

(01:01:00):
hugely popular but maybe have niche groups of people involved
in them. I've seen some of them go under. There
were there were some that I was on that went
under in the past that they just didn't get They
didn't take off enough, and they didn't get enough views,
enough people engaging on them, that advertisers didn't support them,

(01:01:22):
and people didn't use their paid features, so they eventually
just went under. But yeah, any any platform this could
be shared on and and that would be That would
be how they would activate against masogynistic networks because we
are considered misogynistic. Since we say that criminals accountability for

(01:01:49):
the crimes they couldmit should not be different depending on
whether they are men or women. That's misogynistic, Guys. That
consent standards should be the same regardless of whether the
person being asked for their consent is male or female,
and communication standards should be commensurate with the consent standards.

(01:02:11):
So if you have to obtain enthusiastic consent in order
to be not a rapist. When you have sex with someone,
then you have to give enthusiastic consent in order for
another person to feel comfortable having sex with you. That's

(01:02:32):
I was demonetized for saying that, like ten years ago,
that you have to actually give someone an answer when
they ask you a question, or you can't expect them
to proceed without that answer. If if that answer could
determine whether you could put that person in jail or
not for proceeding. It's soajunistic to say that. Can you
believe that we'll close this down? Because that's really all

(01:02:54):
I needed to see here. So who are these people?
So this is a little deceptive, right, their membership. This
is from their annual report from last year, and this
is a page I think it's thirty something and here
it's a little bit down the way. Oh no, it's thirteen,
page thirteen. But in any case, so this started in

(01:03:17):
twenty seventeen. Down here at the bottom there you can
see twenty seventeen, right, and these were they organizations, And
this is where it's deceptive, where they have it listed
as X. There X didn't exist in twenty seventeen. Twitter
did elon Musk was not involved. In twenty seventeen. It

(01:03:38):
was Jack Dorsey, So that's a little bit odd that
they would call it x back then. But this was
the founding members of this organization were Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter,
and YouTube who like so Bill Gates see and whoever

(01:04:01):
was running YouTube which Google basically but whoever was running
YouTube in twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen, the year after Trump
uh had his you know, this is the second year
of Trump's presidency when they were all panicking, right, and
then Instagram got at it in twenty eighteen, and then
they started getting more and more. We have Pinterest, Dropbox, Amazon, LinkedIn, WhatsApp, Mega,

(01:04:24):
Discord in twenty twenty, mail Chimp twenty twenty one, Airbnb,
what yelp? Airbnb just passed, Zoom Tumblr. I'm surprised Tumbler
wasn't involved sooner, but word pressed so we might we
might want to consider a burnative source for that, that
blog that you can go to to find all of

(01:04:46):
our content if we get erased from the Internet. That's
what we use. Clubhouse in twenty twenty two, Giffye, Google
the whole company, and Niantic, and then in twenty twenty shoot,
which was supposed to be an anti censorship alternative to

(01:05:08):
to YouTube. When it first came around, I didn't even
know there was still an operation. I've got videos on there,
uh you bot Meta Twitch, daily Motion, and then last
year we have I think this is bi meta Bitley.
So when you shorten a URL through Bitley to try

(01:05:30):
to make it harder to detect or easier to fit
into your social media, it could get flagged just through
that a Yahoo your email, So Google and Yahoo email
is compromised. Patreon, Yeah, so relying on thirty third party

(01:05:51):
payment platforms like Patreon to find your work might subject
you to this system. So and that's that's who's involved
in this and it over the years, so that these
organizations are all on board with the stuff that we
just described, and if they if you and women persuades
this organization to start treating telling women to go back

(01:06:15):
to the kitchen to make you a sandwich, the same
as discussing bombing targets for suicide bombers or mass shooting targets,
you're going to see a hell of a lot of
censorship on social media. And the way that they describe this,
Let's see if I there we go all right, So

(01:06:37):
most of these are social media right, some of these
are video streaming, image sharing. Those are their three biggest targets.
Are our companies that do this now? The reason the
huge amount of it is social media. It's almost all
the companies are either social media sites or sites that

(01:07:00):
allow use of the site as a social media site
in addition to whatever else it does. Video streaming, a
lot of social media sites are allowing that now. Im
it's sharing, a lot of social media sites are allowing
that now. So these twelve and twelve here are probably
almost entirely included in this sixteen. There's some other things

(01:07:20):
here that are a bit disturbing. File sharing and cloud services.
So for instance, Google, if you have a Google Drive
and you have things on your Google Drive that are
you know, it shouldn't be the only place you store
anything that is a political statement. And if you have one,

(01:07:41):
you can always download it onto something else and save
it there as well. It'll compress your files. Have. For instance,
any writing that I have put on a Google Drive
is backed up somewhere else, so if it gets deleted
from that, I still have it. It's not lost forever. Actually,

(01:08:03):
before I came on to talk about this during during
the last couple of weeks, I have gone through and
double checked to make sure that everything on my Google
Drive has a backup, like a hard copy somewhere, just
because of this. As soon as I started reading about it,
that's it. Freak the fuck out. Start backing everything up
so that it can't be taken from me. E commerce.

(01:08:24):
So what's the big deal about e commerce? Well, imagine
for a minute that your whole living is made as
a streamer. It's not the case. Here. I get some
reimbursement that doesn't fully cover my expenses, but it's enough
that it doesn't put me out more than I can handle.
Among other things, we use the business grade of internet

(01:08:48):
connection here because if we don't, the stream fails on
a regular basis. So that's part of what that goes
to is have enough bandwidth that my stream doesn't die.
But I've also had to shout out a little bit
here and there for bits of research that I've done,
and there's there's other stuff that happens, like that I'm

(01:09:10):
having to replace equipment even though I really like what
I already have and I don't want to, so I
do get a little reimbursement because of that, right, But
I don't. I don't make my living. I have a
job outside of this. That's my main job that pays
my rent, my electric bill, all that stuff, and you
know that's that's good for me. Right. But we do

(01:09:31):
know people who have put all of their eggs in
the social media basket as influencers. They're either there there,
streamers or there you know, other other types of content,
content creators, writers, They have their own websites, some of
them their own news sites. So e commerce represents payment

(01:09:58):
platforms like Patreon, and if payment platforms get on board
with this and this organization, then treat sit back in
the kitchen and make me a sandwich, a sandwich the
same as a joe. Let's go use these weapons. We
have to shoot up a club of this type of
people that we don't like in a in a DM

(01:10:21):
or something, or organizing a protest where people are going
to throw bricks through windows and set neighborhoods on fire.
That there goes your There goes your whole career. Your
live stream becomes flagged. Everybody that listens to you starts
having problems with their social media, and you're fucked you
know e commerce, You can't sell your T shirts, can't

(01:10:42):
sell your mouse pads. Monetization and finance you can't. You
can't use Patreon, you can't use Visa MasterCard. Animated image database,
you can't store your artwork for your streams. You can't
store your artwork anywhere like animated image database might be

(01:11:02):
a box, dropbox, so and one travel marketplace right now,
so far right. Imagine for a minute if every hotel
chain signs onto this, and also you know Airbnb's already
on it. I imagine if every booking site signs onto this. Suddenly,
if you've told somebody to get back in the kitchen

(01:11:24):
and make you a sandwich online, even though your government
is not using a social credit system to decide whether
or not you are legally allowed to travel, well, you
might not be able to book a hotel where you're going.
I hope you got friends there. You might not be
able to say at at somebody's house, or you might
not be able to book a flight to get there.

(01:11:46):
So yeah, this looks small at first, This looks like, oh,
it's ridiculous, it's you and women whining about men. But
it's not. And they're advertising any tech company interested in
strengths and your capacity to counter terrorist and violent extremist
activity online. Right, But they're trying to get it so

(01:12:08):
that misogyny and what they consider to be misogyny is
included in this and they're using the fact of how
many people they've got involved already. This is popular. You
should join.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Us, yeah, become one with the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
And they have a database, right, hash sharing database, meaning
this is how they encrypt the numerical representation of original content.
So it's essentially the same information. But if you don't
have the key, you can't rebuild it into the original item,

(01:12:45):
so you wouldn't be able to like get a hold
of it. And then I'm going to see this stream
now and you just have a bunch of numbers. But
they're added to this database with a series of labels
to help members understand what content corresponds to the hash
and then what entities it's attached to and what the
behavioral elements are, so that they can then identify other

(01:13:07):
similar content and other people who they might want to
ban or shadow ban, or throttle or otherwise interfere with
their ability to communicate with each other, and also add
those people to the database and their content to the database. Yeah, so,

(01:13:28):
like I said, you know, maybe I say something on
x about don't pay women to make stupid choices and
you comment under my post, what does that mean? Perfectly
innocuous statement. Right, you're asking me a question. I don't
understand what does that mean? Suddenly you're on a list.
So where's all this going. Let's see, we were at

(01:13:51):
how to Oh no, it was this one, and of
course I'm clear at the top of the page. Here
what comes next? There we go. We've been talking about
the Act to in Violence Against Women program and the
research from the Institute for a Strategic Dialogue, which remember
what we just the rabbit hole we just went down
was because that research mentioned this organization right under the

(01:14:16):
Act to End Violence against Women and Girls program. This
work is supported by the government of Iceland in the
European Union. So these organizations, like the United States government,
cannot censor the speech of people in the United States
unless we are specifically threatening to commit crimes or planning crimes,

(01:14:40):
like if we use this live stream to organize as
a thing to do, show up in a neighborhood and
commit some act of violence or destruction of property. Or
something and step by step planned it. We could be
arrested for that, right. But if we suggested that abortion

(01:15:00):
should be outlawed all over the United States from the
day of conception till the day through the day of birth,
no abortion unless the mother mother was going to die
from the conditions of the pregnancy, they couldn't arrest us
for that. But this organization allows for these platforms to say, oh, no, no,

(01:15:22):
that's misogynistic. You're wanting to control women's bodies. You can't
talk about that and do the same thing. They can't
arrest us, but they can shut down the channel, ban
us from making new channels, track you for listening to
the channel, and then tell your other social media to
not let you talk. And the United States government isn't

(01:15:45):
necessarily supporting it, but the European Union is so through
this organization, which is attempting to get allegations of misogyny
included in ways that these platforms decide who to censor.
The European Union is funding that, funding that censorship of

(01:16:09):
speech in the United States and other countries around the world.
So we look at this and act to end violence
against women. This is the last thing we look at
I think today unless it only takes a minute, but
it's not very big. It's like a page. So what
is this thing, this plan that they have. And here's
the first question I have. Obviously, since the feminists fifties

(01:16:34):
and sixties, feminists have actively been doing things like interfering
in court cases, sheltering victims, funding relocation of victims, and
stuff like that, funding accusers' court cases when they're trying
to use it to get custody of their children or
get property in a divorce. That's been going on for

(01:16:58):
almost three quarters of century. Feminist organizations. One of their
main focuses has been one of their main foci has
been this, and apparently they have made absolutely no progress
because now they need a plan to end violence against
women and girls. The fuck have they been doing for

(01:17:20):
the last seventy five years?

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Collecting paychecks, that's what they've been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Where have they been if there's a lot every country
now right that is supposed to address this. There's a
whole legal system in place, there's a whole shelter system
in place in every first world country, and they're not
even serving men. They're only serving women. That in fact,
if a woman starts violence with a man and he

(01:17:46):
defends himself, he gets arrested. So women can be the
violent one and still benefit from this system. And yet
they need a plan. We gotta have a plan to
star violence against women and girls, guys. It's very important.
Never been tried, never been done before. Real anti violence

(01:18:09):
mechanisms have never been tried, never been tried, like in
that whole amount of time, Like, what the fuck have
they been doing sitting there on their thumbs? Yeah, whistling Dixie? Wait,
that's racist, like seriously. So it says against women and
girls is the most pervasive human rights violation worldwide. Guys.

(01:18:33):
I just want you to know that the leading cause
of human death in the world is being aborted, right,
but yeah, the most pervasive human rights violation worldwide is
violence against women and girls.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Well, because they're the only women. It's only women and
girls that are considered human.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
So y doesn't matter if it's a Well, you have
to be born to be considered human by these people too,
even though your species is not magically changed and going
through the birth canal, women do not have magic vaginas
that suddenly rewrite your DNA. It says thirty years since
the adoption of a Beijing Platform for Action. Despite concerted

(01:19:17):
efforts by you and member states, levels of violence against
women have remained largely unchanged. Had feminists are in app
You can't do shit, apparently, apparently no capability. They have
all this power, all this influence, They have worldwide organizations,

(01:19:37):
millions of dollars trillions, even literally from government sources. No less,
law and policy has been changed as a result of
their actions. Women all over the world are involved, men
are helping them, and they have accomplished by their own admission.

(01:20:00):
Nothing nothing, Oh stupid out to my fellow UHF fans.
Oh my god, the world is failing to eliminate violence
against women. No, what'll we ever do? We've thrown all
this money at the problem and it's still there. Everything

(01:20:20):
we're doing is right. Why isn't this working?

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Just got to keep throwing more money at it that
fix the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yes, and of course they're organizing with China to do this. Yes,
the Beijing Platform for Action. I never clicked on this
and opened it. The Declaration and Platform for Action at
Good Grief agreed by one hundred and eighty nine governments

(01:20:50):
in nineteen ninety five. So this was the year after
the Violence Against Women.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Act, WAIT admitted one hundred and eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
We're eighty nine governments signed on to this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
There's only something like one hundred and ninety five countries.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
In the.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
Yeah, so this is the thirtieth anniversary. Thirty years later,
after one eighty nine governments signed on to use feminist
methods to try to stop violence against women and girls.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Thirty years later, according to this organization, this You and
Women sub organization, the Act to End Violence against Women,
they have achieved nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
One hundred and eighty nine countries.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
They all passed laws, they all created organizations, they all
funded research, they all started creating roles for individuals to
assist women in court cases related to their domestic violence
allegations against men, and so on. Thirty years of that, right,

(01:22:04):
thirty years of going into universities and telling the women,
the young women that are there to learn to be
school teachers and baristas and shit, that they're in danger
if they're around men, and they should be scared of men.
And if a man tells them to make a sandwich,
that he's beating them, and they should use the university

(01:22:26):
system to get him kicked out of school or if
he sits next to them on the bus or doesn't
say yes when they ask him out, same thing, totally right.
Thirty years of this. Thirty years of telling the cops
that if there's a conflict between a man and a
woman in violence is involved, he is the perpetrator and
she is the victim, even if she was trying to

(01:22:48):
steal his bag. Thirty years of telling prosecutors if you
have a court case where a woman is alleging an
act of violence against her and it turns out that
she's lying, you can't go after her because real victims
will be discouraged from reporting. Thirty years of that, and
despite these efforts, levels of violence against women remain largely unchanged. Seriously,

(01:23:15):
that is what they're opening with. Do you understand why
I'm emphasizing this so hard?

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
They have, So that's what we're supposed to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, we're told that the only people who should be
allowed to do research on this, the only people who
should be believed when they talk about what's effective and
what's not, what's true and what's not about domestic violence,
what the law should be, and how the public should
be responding to it. The only people that should be
listened to. Are the ones who have been working on

(01:23:45):
this problem for seventy five years and had the entire
world organized with them to work on it for the
last thirty that have spent trillions of dollars on this
problem and achieved nothing. Nothing. Can we try somebody else's ideas?

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Please? Can we get a suggestion box at least?

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yeah? Oh, suggestion boxes are misogynistic. That's the euphemism for vagina.
Shame on you, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Global emergencies, crises, and conflict have intensified the drivers and
risk factors of violence against women and girls. Digitalization and
technology have exacerbated existing forms of violence and led to
the development of new forms. Yes, I know, last night

(01:24:41):
somebody beat me to death with a laptop, but I
got better. However, there is more evidence than ever before
showing that violence against women and girls is preventable. Then
why haven't you got anything done in three quarters of
a century? Give us a clue? Oh, come on, what

(01:25:01):
is it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
But the hits there? No, kid, no.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
The presence of a strong and autonomous feminist movement is
the single most critical factor to drive policy change and
violence against women. Because women have been so successful, so
successful that they've gotten all of nothing done. But they're
making a shit ton of money off of it, aren't they.

(01:25:24):
Some of the some of the women that run these
shelters that women go to when they say they have
been beaten by their husbands, and and the women are
sheltered there, whether they are telling the truth or not.
Some of these women are making more per year then
I make in five years.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Some of these women are making more than I make
in ten years. They're making more annually than I make
in ten years as as administrators of these and and
and they're not. It's not they're not getting paid for
like working a lot of overtime and sticking their neck
out and knowing a shitload of stuff. They're made for
attending like six meetings a year. They're paid that much

(01:26:10):
for attending like six meetings a year and pressing a
couple of buttons. And that's that's basically it. They're not
doing the science behind this, they're not none of that. Nope,
having six meetings a year. Yeah, sitting there asking a
seat around a table with other women that are making
that much money. Wonder why they haven't gotten anything done?

(01:26:32):
It's mising. Yeah, feminist movement is essential. Act to End
Violence against Women aims to accelerate efforts to eliminate all
forms of violence against women through advocacy, coalition building, and
transformative feminist action. Which is what they've been doing for
the last seventy five years, right, and it is accomplished. Nothing.

(01:26:57):
We're doing the thing, the same thing and expecting different results. Guys,
fund us. Uncle Sam agrees with this. That's the sad thing.
ACT is a new game changing commitment between we mean
it this time, guys, we really mean it, between the
YEARUPE and Commission and you and women. As co leaders
of the Action.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Coalition ink, we pinky swear, we.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Pinky swear, pinky swear, We're gonna end violence against women
this time. We really mean it. We're gonna do exactly
the same things that didn't work before. This time we
promise it'll work. Oh jeez, I'm gonna cry.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
It's the mind fucker. It really is, god damn game changing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
This must be a game to them. They are losing
and they think that's a win.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
As co leaders of the Action Coalition on Gender Based
Violence in collaboration with the un Trust Fund to End
Violence against Women, I'll bet there's a shit ton of
money in that trust fund through direct investments in feminist movements. So,
in other words, they are paying feminist groups to talk
about this, strengthening intersectional alliances and coordinating a shared advocacy agenda.

(01:28:10):
ACT will amplify women's rights movements as they coordinate their
push for justice. I think they're going to give birth
to it. Yeah, right, there's the problem. There's the problem.
That's the whole problem. They got to give birth to
their justice. But these groups are pro abortion. Yeah, well,
shit son. Sorry. In the current context of pushback on

(01:28:32):
gender equality and their rise in anti rights movements, there
are no anti rights movements right, jeez. ACT will seek
to create greater solidarity within the global movement to end
Violence against Women. Act will initially be rolled out in

(01:28:55):
two regions. This will be highly effective. It will be
rolled out in Africa and Latin America. They're going to, uh,
let me know how that worked out for you. They're
going to push feminism in Africa and Latin America. There's
already a shitload of a feminist bullshit in Latin America.
I think there there's also a problem in Africa because

(01:29:17):
in the last couple of years, I have developed a
huge following in a huge proportion of my following is African,
like literally from different countries in Africa. Wow, all of
a sudden in the last couple of years, something's going on.
But uh, and that's that's just on X. But and
there's a lot of them talking about, you know what,

(01:29:40):
what makes a woman a strong woman and good wife?
Material and stuff like that. And they're not talking, you know,
game theory and shit like that. They're talking about what
is your life going to be like? Right if your
wife doesn't care about embarrassing you and won't won't cooperate

(01:30:01):
as as part of the team running a household, the
male and female team running a household like so it's
it's really fundamental stuff, honestly. So there is a push
there has been for our whole lives gen xers. There's
been a push to infiltrate Africa with feminism because feminism

(01:30:23):
is how you control men. And since the authoritarian powers
that be who shall not be named any particular group
just to just to piss off the the there are
certain groups of conspiracy theorists. It can't take ships and
enslave the people there so now they have to use
feminism to do it. Yeah, and then they want us

(01:30:44):
to download this program brochure, which I'm not gonna do, no,
ma'am no, But then they have all these statistics. They
have a Global Civil Society Steering Committee sixteen women's rights
experts and activists working on ending violence against women from

(01:31:05):
a diversity of perspectives and regions. Because it's been highly
effective so far, they have achieved all of nothing. And
this is a mouthful. The role of the Steering Committee
is to ensure contentious alignment or continuous alignments sorry with
these strategic priorities and needs of women's rights movements feminists

(01:31:26):
in other words, and advise on the overall strategic direction
of the act program, meaning where's the target. What we've
been doing doesn't work, so you know, we're going to
all collaborate with feminists and target specific areas and see
if we can then use them as a launching pad

(01:31:47):
to take over the world. And here is where it
gets a little more insidious and scary and less funny.
Partnerships have been developed with women's rights organizations, coalitions and networks,
and academic and research institutes at the global and regional levels,
academic and research institutes. That's your university. If you went

(01:32:07):
to school where your university's interdisciplinary department. Now, I think
that's what it's called now. Used to be women's studies,
used to just be a class, and then it was
a department, and then it was gender studies, and then
it became interdisciplinary studies. But your interdisciplinary department is doing

(01:32:28):
research that obtains statistics that are then used by lobbyists
and pressure groups, pressure campaigns to persuade legislators in your
country to write laws like the Violence Against Women Act
that then give money to organizations that apply more pressure

(01:32:50):
and might help your your wife become your ex wife,
take your house, your kids, your car, and your future income.
But well, then say that they have achieved nothing. They've
partnered work. They work across the diverse focus areas, from
addressing technology technology facilitated gender based violence, championing rights of

(01:33:13):
marginalized groups, and they play a critical role in driving
transformative change. All right, guys, So transformative change is a redundancy.
If something is transformative, formative, that is change. Transformation is change.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
By definition.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
There is no such thing as non non transformative change.
That's that's bullshit, but they had to add that in
somebody needed a word counter or.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Some shita got paid.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
So the eightieth Session of the UN General Assembly addressed this.
Remember at the beginning of this whole discussion, I said,
you know, I don't want to hear bullshit from people
saying that you and women is not actually part of
the UN. And they don't have anything, have any power,
they don't have anything already, they don't have any influence.

(01:34:02):
This is their gig. And the actual United Nations General
Assembly addressed it a joint statement emphasizing the need for
bold and transformative investments in ending violence against women and girls.
And they have a demand list the adaptation of a
whole government approach. Whole government. So in the United States,

(01:34:26):
let's see if it's still available here, Let's see if
I can find it. There is a list of US
government departments here, all right, so this is this is
interesting and they've changed it. They've gotten rid of it.
Oh wow, the United States Federal Executive Department. They probably
got rid of it because things have changed. But there

(01:34:49):
used to be a big list here. There's there's still
a list you can see here and going through this
awfully fast. Here but we have. Besides, it's like the
big the State, the Treasury of the Interior, there's agriculture.
Can you imagine the Department of Agriculture trying to address
this whole government approach. Guys, we must now have policy

(01:35:12):
on violence against women in the agricultural department.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Isn't the Department of Agriculture also responsible for issuing welfare checks?

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
It might be.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
I believe I heard that somewhere. I could be wrong.
Someone fact check me.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
But yeah, I if that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Is the case, then yeah, it's tracks Health and Human
Services is the department where you qualify for the welfare checks.
But I don't know if they I know agriculture is
involved with the food stamps program. Like that's where government
cheese comes from. If people are familiar with a great,

(01:35:54):
big block of government cheese. Yeah, here it is cheap.
Way just gave us five dollars and said HBr News
three seventy two honey for the badgers. But this is
HBr talk. We love you, Meredith. I know sometimes you
can't tell, but yeah, especially since I'm on both so

(01:36:15):
but yeah, just picture that the Department of Labor, the
Department of Labor addressing violence against women in the home,
the Department of Transportation, the Energy Department, Homeland Security because
they don't have anything better to do, right, the War Department,
the military branches, the Post Office. We definitely need to

(01:36:37):
have the Post Office having policy on domestic violence and home.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
That dying institution that loses billions of dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Yeah, yeah, then we have all these proposed departments over time.
There used to be a big list of agencies and
departments on Wikipedia of the fine I know that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
There are.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Yeah, okay, so Meredith says, the Department of Agriculture processes
payments for other agencies, So I guess they have they're
the wife.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
They have that The wife just.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
By the way, in this house does not control the checkbook.
I prefer not to. And even if I did prefer to,
it wouldn't happen. It would not happen. That is not
the way things are. But yeah, so whole government approach
to end violence against women by implementing fully costed, evidence based,
multi sectional and intersectional national action plans, because you know,

(01:37:41):
definitely we need the people who are making sure that
there's a national communication hub among farmers. If there is
a problem with say some virus going through sheep across
the country to divert their attention to whether or not
women are mad. We need hose MADS alerts coming from

(01:38:04):
the Agricultural Department post haste, sustain and increase dedicating dedicated
funding for ending violence against women and girls through official
development assistance. You mean, like what the Violence Against Women
ACTA does already? Like literally, that Act funnels millions billions

(01:38:24):
of dollars into research into organizational systems that you know,
like work together. For instance, in Dayton here there is
a sort of main shelter organization, and then there's a
bunch of smaller shelter organizations that communicate back and forth

(01:38:48):
with each other and work together on local issues. And
so if you have a vexatious litigain going after you,
and one organization is supporting that vexatious litigant, you cannot
get help from any of the other organizations because they
all coordinate who they will and won't help. The seven
years in health case, they discovered that they do consider

(01:39:10):
using false allegations of domestic violence to be a form
of domestic violence. But if you're being subjected to it
in one of their organizations is supporting the abuser. The
other organizations will not go against that one help, so
they shut you out. Increased direct investments and sustain the
long term and flexible funding for women's rights organizations and

(01:39:33):
feminist movements, which again this is not a direct funding
of any action or resource for victims of intimate partner
violence of any type. They're talking about funding the National
Organization for Women, They're talking about funding Concerned Women for America.

(01:39:54):
They're talking about any group that calls themselves feminist and
has some sort of platform, you know, like political platform
for this is what we're going to protest, this is
what we're going to advocate for, and so on. That's it.
That's all that's about. So they're wanting the government, your

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government to fund feminist activism in your area. So we
want HOSE mad alerts for your area. But the way
that we're going to solve the problems is we are
going to give the HOSE money to be mad.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Maybe they won't be mad anymore after they have all
your money.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Well, I mean, if it pays to be mad, they're
going to get mad and mad as hell. Oh if
I'm mad, you give me money, I am pissed as fuck. Guys,
give me more money, the adoption, implementation, enforcement, and funding
of comprehensive evidence based laws and policies to end violence
against world women and girls in line with global standards

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such as the Beijing Platform for Action, which standardized the
entire world around the Violence Against Women Act. So that
hasn't changed. It's still there. They're still doing that. This
is not new. And finally, increased investment in evidence research
and field building, which they're already again doing. They have

(01:41:15):
put a shit ton of money into funding research at
various universities intending to garner statistics showing prevalence of domestic
violence and male perpetration, and they have tailored that research
to avoid evidence of female perpetration and male victims. So
they've already got this. This demand that they're asking for

(01:41:38):
is something they already have. Then I'm not going to
read the full text of the joint statement because it's
just can be more of this shit, but that is
their entire set of demands. What they are basically saying
is we have failed in the last seventy five years
or so to accomplish anything, despite how having the full

(01:42:01):
support of national governments worldwide for the last thirty years
we've failed so miserably that we can't fail any harder.
But we want to try, and we want you to
fund it. Yep, that's feminism for you pay us to
fail some more. We haven't failed hard enough until we
have all of your money. Oh my god, this is

(01:42:22):
so sad. But the sad thing about it, the worst
thing about it is they are using this to try
to designate you as a terrorist for disagreeing with anything
they say online in any forum anywhere, or maybe poking
at them a little bit with old jokes, you know.

(01:42:42):
Like it's sad, and they want to make it so
that you cannot object to what they're saying doing. You
can't talk about it, You can't point out that they're failing.
You can't object to do process rights being compromised, You
can't object to your wallet being ripped for funding for
this because you're a terrorist.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Shame on you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
And uh, therefore you must be banned from all social media.
By the way, otherwise it's online gender based violence. So
there you go, guys. Next week we will start with
that's not it I want. There we go, How to
Counter the Manosphere's Toxic Influence, which was written this year

(01:43:31):
and uh, and that will be I think where we
end our discussion on this specific set of information. But
I want you to consider this is in line with
other efforts to censor the Internet and in particular sensor
social media. So everything that we've gone over in the

(01:43:56):
past few weeks with regard to this this is this
is we're making fun of and everything, But the reality
of this is very scary. What they're asking, demanding, really
to be able to do is if they don't like
what you say, if they don't like your gender issues discussion, right,
if they don't like you saying, for instance, that a

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man shouldn't be put in jail for crime unless evidence
proves that he committed it something like that, they want
to be able to get you banned from all online communications,
possibly banned from travel and being able to stay at
various places where you might land if you travel, banned
from being able to sell things on the internet, and

(01:44:42):
even if you're not banned from that band from being
able to get paid for them. So they really want
a lot of control, and this is the mechanism that
they are using. Since they've admitted that they've completely failed
in three quarters of a century to achieve anything in
regard to islands against women. Clearly, that is not their

(01:45:02):
real goal. If it was, they would have accidentally achieved
something by now at least. Yeah, but obviously their real
goal is to create an intricate system of tyrannical control
over your ability to communicate with other people around political issues,

(01:45:26):
using attacks on your ability, your freedom of movement, your
your economic freedom, and your your freedom of speech. Gary
shit in my opinion, So this is where will be
next week. Thanks everybody for listening, Lauren, Have you got
anything else to add?

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
No? No, I think I'm all good on this one. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Thanks for going through this scary shit with me, especially
thanks to Brian for working in the background so I
can piss off. The vertical chat came today actually, and
good night all, good.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Night, y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
They are talking point machines. They are impossible to deal with,
especially if you have like especially if you have like
a couple of dudes who have good memory. On top
of that too, Holy shit, you're fucked