Why is it Mostly Women Celebrating Murder? What happens next? | Maintaining Frame 180

In the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk by a far left trans activist, many people are coping in multiple ways. Some with prayer, some with grief, some with support for Kirk's family, and some by dancing, singing and gleeful celebration. Shoe0nhead, who is a leftist herself, has just seen the face of evil. And it was in the house with her.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
is Brian with Allison, and this is maintaining frame number
one eighty. Why is it mostly women celebrating murder? And
what happens next? We're going to be reacting. I changed
your suggestion a little bit because I think that's the takeaway.
We're gonna be reacting to a video by Shoe on Head,

(00:21):
which is her I guess response or thoughts on the
Charlie Kirk assassination. And I mean, you know, and she's
I mean I think it's worth looking at. So I
don't know. You haven't seen it, right, Alison.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, I have not seen it, so I have you know,
don't spoiler, don't spoiler the ultimate conclusion. But yeah, so
this is this has been quite the interesting interesting is
the wrong word? Sorry? A tragic enlightening event. Yeah, just
to see the sheer Malfie's on a particular group. I

(01:02):
don't even want to say a side because I think
that they just are raw human eat ugliness at this point.
So yeah, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Uh, I know you want to say a side, Alison.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Because what the sides are? What I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Want to the bloodthirsty murderer demons that you know, vote.
We don't want to alienate them.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't think that's my point here.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, do you think that?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Do you think that human evil is a side?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, it's the side of evil, I do, yes, Okay, all.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right, fine, fine, yeah, just just the side of be
of descending into the worst impulses that human beings have.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
How's that sure?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
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I'd say it was a success.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, it's success twice the size of.

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Speaker 1 (03:05):
It, all right, So I have some time codes here,
let's play her intros. I think the setup is important
as usual, and she is good at doing the setup.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So on September tenth, Charlie Kirk was giving a talk
at Utah Valley University and out of nowhere, he was dead,
live in front of a bunch of college kids, in
front of his wife and his two children. And I
don't think the country is ever going to be the same,
not only because of this horrific tragedy, but because of
everything that followed, the dark, disturbing realization that we may

(03:38):
not be on the same page as our coworkers, classmates, friends, neighbors,
doctors when it comes to the issue of murder. I
was crashing out on Twitter a few days ago, just
stream of consciousness posting about it with run on sentences
and everything. Four days later, I have a clearer head,
but I still feel the exact same way. So we

(03:59):
are going to talk about what happened. We're going to
talk about the aftermath, and then we're going to get
a little personal because frankly, I don't see the country
the same anymore, and I know a lot of you
feel the exact same way. So we're going to talk
about it after we talk about everything else.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
All right, So you can already tell the tone is
not her normal tone. No, I did read her posts
on X and I'm you know, I totally get it.
So anyway, Yeah, I'm just letting you guys know, let

(04:35):
me just make sure that I got all of this
setup so that we'll get the appropriate Yeah, so when
super chats come through and all that, it'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
What we're going to say, well, what I was going
to say is that. So just to get clarify my
thoughts on this, there is a side that uses speech
to identify enemies and a side that continues to regard
speech as a means of communicating different concepts, but in
order to have a discourse, you need sides to that discourse.

(05:07):
So it's like, how do you say that it's wrong
to consider disagreeing with you a capital offense and that's
actually evil and allow for that? A discourse needs to
have two sides. That makes sense. So that's why I
say I think that this is not a discourse. This

(05:28):
is not a side in the discourse. This is a
desire to destroy human communication entirely, to make it a
form of dominance. In other words, you have one opinion
and that's their opinion and no other. That's the destruction
of discourse. But again, a discourse needs to have a

(05:50):
variety of opinions to occur. So how would you describe that, Brian?
How would you explain the difference?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Remember Calgary Expo, Allison, why did you get thrown out.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Because I wanted to have a conversation with.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
People who did not have any interest in having a
conversation with you. Yes, and so they threw you out.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So they've been censoring, they've been banning, they have been excluding,
and some people, despite all that, managed to push through.
And so they take it further. They tried canceling, they
try getting people fired from their jobs. They tried getting

(06:33):
people's reputations destroyed so they would not be able to
associate with people in their community, and then some people
pushed through and then they killed them. And I'm not
being hyperbolic. That is the nature of what they do.
So the people who kicked you out of the expo
are the same people who killed Charlie Kirk in terms

(06:55):
of their ultimate like at the baseline of their belief system.
And you can say that's like not a side, but
it is a side because there's like a lot of
people that are okay with this, even if they don't
want to pull the trigger themselves. And you could say
that on the side of people who want to have discourse,
there are different people who have different opinions, but those

(07:18):
are all that's all fine, we can like, we can
wrestle with that. But right now we have people who
just want you to die or shut up and disappear forever. Yes,
which is basically the same thing.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I'm just saying that I
think that calling that aside is giving it legitimacy. It's
not a side. Well, yes, I guess is theft aside.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Like there's a there.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I get that, but ultimately they do believe in theft
because they're statists, and that's what says do when their
parents are challenged. But look I'm saying is that I
guess we're just trying to like figure out what the
best way to view this paradigm is. I see it

(08:08):
as people who are willing to talk and people who
don't want to talk.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And I want to talk. They want to use words
to dominate, right.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, but then.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
There is no side and there's discourse. There is only
them and their ability to dominate through canceling, through evictions,
through firing, through murder. It's the desire to stop people
thinking things that they don't accept, right, And it's like
that's that is a criminal it's like a criminal behavior

(08:50):
and it's a it's a descent into human and madness.
And I mean I saw that when when I remember
the video I did on the Nazis in Boston. Yeah,
like they they did not want them. They didn't even
show the people they were calling Nazis because then it
would have been patently obvious that what they were doing

(09:12):
was silencing a bunch of people who just had uh
interests in free speech and and maybe you know, an
our narco capitalism or whatever and weed, you know, and
they they silenced them because they did not want people
to know that they were lying about them. And it's
like they're this, I don't know, Okay, maybe maybe I'm

(09:35):
just struggling with something that is impossible to explain at
the moment. So let's just continue, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, yeah, let's jump ahead to let me play a
little bit more of this.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Charlie Kirk was not a healthcare CEO. He was not
a powerful politician. And let me be one hundred percent clear,
I'm not saying this to say that it's okay when
those people are murdered. My point is that those are
positions of power that most people cannot relate to. The
average person is just so far removed from that world.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Does that echo, Well, you're getting an echo.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I'm getting a bit of an echo.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Is that that's weird?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah? Is that original to her video?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Or let me har I'll put on my headphones. It
normally wouldn't be an issue. But yeah, and for the record,
when she says this is not some ceo, yeah, you know,
she's making a reference to the United Healthcare guy. And
I know that she does say. Look, I'm not saying
that that makes it okay, but you see, because we

(10:32):
accepted that when it happened, that that means we accept this.
So you know, if you were one of those people
that says Luigi was a hero, guess what, you implicitly
supported the assassination of Charlie Kirk because you said assassination
is okay. Sometimes fight me because I'm looking at the
live chat and I know people are going to be
in there bitching about something, so I'm gonna let you

(10:53):
know that shit's not flying today. I'm watching anyway. Because yes,
when you said it's okay Luigi to kill the United
Healthcare guy, you basically said it's okay to do this
as long as it's the people that I think should
be killed. Guess what, you opened the floodgates for anyone
to be targets.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Differently, because, like I said on Twitter, he was just
a facking guy. He was a podcaster, He was a
guy who talked about politics. He was a guy who
had conservative beliefs. Not everyone knows a billionaire CEO or
a powerful politician, but they do know somebody with conservative beliefs.
They know somebody who holds some or many of Charlie

(11:38):
Kirk's opinions because despite what people in their little bubble believe,
his core ideology and what he believed is the same
shit like your conservative boomer uncle on Facebook posts. You
can only disagree with this if you are unfamiliar with
Charlie Kirk, or you are unfamiliar with the many different
branches and different ideologies of the right wing. Now, don't

(12:00):
get me wrong, Charlie Kirk had many Okay, I'm gonna
pause it there for a second.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
She was doing the whole like, you know, I don't
agree with them on everything thing I don't care, but
uh I would I just want to say that this
could easily have been a men's rights activist, and I
think like we have had, you know, bomb threats called

(12:28):
on ICMI's. We have had activists called the hotel and
say that there are white supremacists and clansmen and Nazis,
you know, attending your thing. Why would they do that
if they weren't prepared for us to possibly get killed,
not just like kicked off the premises or banned, but

(12:50):
if it like escalated in any way, if there was
a misunderstanding or escalation we can be gone. So she
can say this is a conservative thing, and I know
people will in the chat will be like, well, they're
not us. We're not those filthy, filthy, gross conservatives. You know,
it doesn't matter, guys, stop it. Okay, you're all right

(13:11):
wing period. You are. You are because you disagree with
murdering your opponents.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
You're right wing because we agree and we agree with
discourse regardless of where you stand, what your position is,
it doesn't even matter at this point. No discourse.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, but this isn't a new thing. That's why I'm
pointing out old experiences. So she was like, oh my god,
war has changed. No, this has been real, like a
thing since canaan Abel. This is ancient, ancient behavior that
never has gone away. It's always been under the surface
of everybody. But just some people were tempted by it

(13:50):
and acted on it and some were not. And so
to say this is like, you know, a new thing
that just started happening, because my internet is just false.
It's not new, it's old anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yep, all right, let's keep going.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
All right.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Takes over the years, like, for example, the two most
popular quotes I see people posting.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm gonna jump ahead. This is this is getting into
the specifics, but let's go.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think it really does come down to this. It's
on one side you have people who do not want
to hear any contrary opinions at all, and then the
other side is people who want to have discourse. And
it doesn't matter what the content of your discourse is.
If you allow that other people who disagree with you

(14:39):
are human beings that deserve to live, then you are
one of the bad people.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, okay, all right, let's go to So there's like
a bunch of stuff about like why because she was
trying to figure out like why whether or not he was,
you know, because they were claiming that she he was
right wing and it's all bullshit obviously, but she figures
that out, like she's talking about it. But anyway, let's
jump ahead to what I think is the most important thing,

(15:11):
more important than the assassination, which is very important, don't
get me wrong, but the reaction to it.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Means it ultimately doesn't matter. One person may have pulled
the trigger, but then we saw the reaction of many.
We think that Charlie Kirk just got shot in the net.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Hey, I'm not saying she deserver did, but I'm saying
God's timing is always right. Yeah, they got Charlie Kirk.
Bro I've never been happier.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I never believe the reason I'm smiling, and it has
nothing to do with Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Nothing to do.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I would say, poor one out for Kirky boy, but
I don't always good beer a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Charlie Kirk just got put down like a fucking dog
in Utah.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I do not, and I will not, ever, ever, ever,
ever ever feel bad when bad people get what then
they deserved.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
That someone shot Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
A bt burs.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh, No, someone shot Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Look, I don't know who needs to hear this today,
but that's how you pick up a woman.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I heard someone got shot today.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I had a Tommy this morning.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Stay alive out there.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
The sympathy for Charlie Kirk is weird. You don't have
to like violence, But I'm confused as to how you
thought the revolution was gonna be magically bloodless. I've been
saying we need to.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Bring back political fascinations.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I don't feel bad, and I don't think that everyone
deserves the right to free speech.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I think some people should be afraid to express their
opinion in public. I didn't like what he said, and
I didn't like his opinions, and I don't really give
a shit that he's dead.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
The best part of this whole goddamn thing is that
he is not martyr material, so his death will mean nothing.
It will activate no one, it will impact few.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's just great.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
There are a lot of people that are like, no
matter what side of politics you're on, you should never
celebrate something bad happening to someone. I, on the other hand,
do cheer when bad things happen to bad people.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Harby just got shot. I saw the video before they
even put out the confirmation. There was no chance that
he made it through. That this wasn't the one we
were hoping for, but a welcome surprise.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Nonetheless, I'm surprised that y'all didn't get rid of him sooner,
and I'm surprised that you guys aren't getting rid of
more people like, don't stop with him, don't let him
be the end dog, get rid of them all.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
His wife deserves to go to y'all.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
People talking about his wife and kids, they need to
go too, because they're carrying on that mentality in that lineage,
like get.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Rid of the whole family. I'm so sorry. Why did
you guys stop with him?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
There were thousands of videos.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Okay, these people deserve to live in the squalor and
violence of the society with no advanced, virtuous principles the
society that they are going to construct. That's what I think.
Is that a cruel thing to say? Is that inciting violence? Yes,

(18:47):
we don't deserve to be dragged in with them, though,
it's the problem. Okay, let's hear what you has to say.
I feel like this might be just the breaking point
for Shoe, But maybe I'm wrong. I say that out ignorance.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Well, I don't know what you mean by breaking point,
I guess, but okay, let's see.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
People posting with their full names and faces, with hundreds
and thousands of likes, thousands of tweets, celebrating it with
half a million likes, and it's important to remember that
all of those likes are a real person. Millions of
people in this country apparently believe the acceptable response to
speech they don't like is murder. This wasn't just a
bunch of fringe blue hair sjw's or whatever. They were teachers, professors, doctors,

(19:37):
HR workers, healthcare workers, nurses, pediatricians, people who work with kids,
people's classmates, roommates. They are teachers showing our children the gory,
horrifying video of Charlie's murder on repeat.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So yeah, there was a teacher who forced her ten
year old classroom to watch h murder video over and
over again. So I'm just reading the headline and I
knew about that story. So I mean, look, I'm not
that surprised. I don't know why Shoe is but I'm

(20:15):
not so I don't know what that says about me.
But when I learned that there were this many people
celebrating his death, I wasn't really surprised.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
And the media is going forward with smearing him and
miss misrepresenting what he said. I know one particular quote
that I saw was this quote on empathy and saying
he said basically that empathy was a meaningless buzzword, but
then he went on to say that sympathy is what matters,

(20:44):
because because you cannot empathize with necessarily the things other
things that people go through because you are not them,
but you can sympathize with their their feelings about it
their their experience of you know, sadness or tragedy, so
it was nothing like the media proposed. And then another
one that I've heard excusing his death is him saying

(21:07):
that guns, the existence of freedom, and also the existence
of the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, means
that the cost of that is that there will be
people who die. Honestly, I would have said that there's
more likely to be people who die if there isn't
freedom of speech in particular and the Second Amendment, but

(21:31):
he went with they're more likely that people will die
in order to have freedom. The freedom means that some
people will die as a result of it. And there
are people saying, well that means that him being killed
is justified. Its just deserts for his statement. Well, he's
basically saying that everybody in a free society, everybody runs

(21:53):
the risk of runs risks. Just like if you are
allowed to have a car, there will be accidents that
killed people. That doesn't justify you running someone over with
your car. If they say, well, you know we all
have cars, that means that we're gonna have to accept
a certain amount of accidents. You don't get to run
him over, nor is it justified to run that person over.

(22:16):
It's just the cost, and honestly, I would say it's
a greater cost. And ultimately, it wasn't freedom, a freedom
of speech that killed Charlie Kirk. It was the absence.
It was it was people who believe in the absence
of that freedom.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well, plus he was on a college campus was a
gun free zone, so yeah, like it didn't. It's kind
of stupid. And again, like people who think that safety
is guaranteed that they're just not serious people, Like, there
is no place where safety is guaranteed. There's no such thing.

(22:59):
You live some risk. I do understand what you're saying.
Yeah you have, you always have to live with some risk.
So but but that doesn't really matter. I mean, I
also heard and I don't think she didn't bring it up,
and I thought it was weird because a very common
one that feminist brought up was that I guess Charlie
Kirk was on one of those Jubilee surrounded videos and

(23:19):
he was like the guy being surrounded by a bunch
of you know, young I guess activists and one woman.
They were talking about abortion because he's people's pro life,
very staunching pro life, and of course when you're dealing
with pro choice people, they always give you the most
like absurd you know example, or something that you have

(23:41):
to refute. So like, you know, what, if your daughter
was raped then got pregnant, would you make her carrying
it to term? You know, this like kind of absurd
thing that is very unlikely, especially less likely because he
is a father with his children, but like you have
to assume that dads don't actually protect their kids to
think that something like that could happen and to begin with.
But he just said, well, yeah, I mean it doesn't

(24:04):
mean that it's not a life, so like it doesn't
change anything. That was his opinion. I And then of
course feminist ran with it and said, oh, Charlie Kirk
wants people to get raped and then force them to
carry their babies to term, which of course is like
the most capital offense you could ever do. And that's
why I'm surprised that people didn't more people didn't like
see that, because that was like one of the primary

(24:25):
ways to sort of like demonize him was to say, look,
he wants his daughter to get raped and carry the
baby to term right now. It wasn't even just about
the gun control thing, which, of course, you know, whenever
a leftist like does a mass shooting, they always go
to guns because they don't want to talk about anything else.
But like, it was really I think the abortion thing
was like the big one, so oh, it's something to do.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I don't actually know his opinions on trends individuals, so
I can't.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, he thinks that they need mental health services more
than transitioning. But but he was like he was he
was I will say like I didn't watch him a lot,
but he seemed to be someone whose opinions evolved, so
that means they could evolve even more because the last
time I saw him, I saw him on Tucker Carlson,
and I don't, like I said, I don't watch Charlie

(25:13):
Kirk much, but I do watch Tucker Carlson's show because
he did. I think that he deserves the benefit of
the doubt because he did do a Men's Month when
he was with Fox, and then he brought doctor Warren
Ferrell on and I thought that was good, and so
I watched him and he had Charlie Kirk on and
they I think their conversation was like two and a
half hours and a good seventy five percent of the

(25:36):
conversation was about men, and it wasn't in the because
I know people are gonna be like he was saying,
you should fucking suck it up and get back. No,
he acknowledged the problems with divorce, He acknowledged the problems
with like fatherlessness. He saw that the problems with the economy,
how men are being disserviced by the education system, how
they're not able to afford a home, how they're having

(25:59):
trouble finding partners, how they're checking out. He acknowledged all
of that. So and I mean, I don't know where
that could have gone because he was murdered after that,
but I did see that he was heading in that direction,
and I was, let's say, I was encouraged by that.
I was like, Okay, this is this is good, Like

(26:19):
it's gonna take. He was really young. He was thirty
one when he was assassinated, so he had a lot
of growing to do still if you think about it.
But unfortunately, Yeah, I mean I thought he was on
the right track. So yeah, anyway.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
And I mean, honestly, she said that there are things
that she disagreed with with Charlie Kirk, and I think
there probably would be things that I would disagree with
and even Brian would disagree with in terms of focus
and emphasis, because you know, we focus on men's issues. Well,
maybe maybe you do agree with everything that Charlie Kirk says.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I don't know everything that, Yeah, but I don't think
it it's relevant.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think that's what she means, though
it's not relevant.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah I don't. Yeah, I don't think it's relevant. But anyway,
so yeah, let's keep going on repeat.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
See hippie Dippy in this house, we believe shitlib mask
was ripped off and underneath was nothing but psychopathic blood lust.
I've seen people on the right celebrate the death of
people they disagree with. I've seen it. I remember Heather
Higher in twenty seventeen, but I also remember the whole internet,
left and right coming together to disavow and mock the

(27:28):
few dozen people from Stormfront who were celebrating her death.
This is different. It's never been like.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I don't even remember that.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
What the heck, well, it was very it was very marginal.
So like the Heather Higher thing happened with the Charlottesville
event or whatever it was. When the Unite the Right
rally came and they were protesting the statues being torn down,
and some like you know wig nats went there and

(27:55):
started agitating. But like, that's not a new thing, because
you know, there have been that's been going on for
decades and decades. In fact, I think that we used
to have more open discourse back in the day because
I remember, you know, like Phil Donna Hue bringing the
k K K on or something. I mean, I thought
it was kind of theater anyways, Like I don't know
if any of that was real, but the point is

(28:16):
we we knew that stuff existed, and in general, yes,
like that, it's they're a joke, like people, normal people
are not really fans. So when she said, you know,
they disavowed them, she again she thinks that there's been
like this shift. But I don't think that's right. I
think that in general, people are much more wary of

(28:37):
sort of you know what they would call like right
wing extremism than left wing extremism. I mean, the if
you look at just look at the what's been the
discussion around this as like when they were trying to say,
oh well, let's not forget like the right is way
more dangerous than the left is. And then they bring
out these charts and it's all shipped from the SPLC
and the ADL, who basically only count. They don't even

(29:00):
count like, you know, things like Antifa assassinations, which happened.
I remember that guy that was killed in Portland during
the BLM riots, the Black Lives Matter riots, the weather underground,
the you know what is it? The the assassination attempts
on Trump were not called hate crimes or or politically

(29:20):
motivated violence. The so it goes on. So when the
ADL is literally not counting stuff, and then they put
out a chart saying, look at all this right wing
violence even Oh and also the the ad L will
call like college protests against Israel, like during the Israel
palasign thing, they'll call that right wing even though those

(29:40):
are leftists, you know, like they are in fact, and
they would say so because the reasoning behind why they
oppose Israel has nothing to do with actually what's happening.
It has to do with israel relationship with the United
States and that and the United States is the oppressor,
the ultimate oppressor. So that's the Their reasoning is completely
different from people who have like Dave's myth or whatever.
They have, like, you know, rational reasons to criticize the

(30:03):
government of Israel. But the ADL would just call it
all right wing because and they call libertarians right wing,
they call Catholics right wing, they call Paul elm right wing,
far right extremists whatever. So if that's their their metric
for measuring extremism, is no wonder that the left is
never called extremists. And anyone that's even like libertarian, like
those Nazis in Boston are just going to be extremist

(30:25):
right wingers. And by the way, they hate libertarians too.
That's just true. There's no getting out of that. And
cap guess what, you're a Nazi, it doesn't But they also.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Hate anybody on the left who's willing to talk to
anybody like honestly, they hate this course period. They hate
the idea of people communicating peacefully different points of view,
different ways of approaching problems, different understandings of history or whatever,
or different analyzes of history. They hate human discourse. They

(31:00):
just and they use the term far right as a
way to silence it. Yeah, like misogyny, Yeah, like misogyny, yes, exactly,
They use use misogyny, they use far right, they use
all these buzzwords. Is a way to silence people. And
like I said, they use speech to identify enemies and

(31:22):
control people. So it speeches for them is a means
to control, not to disseminate ideas. This is this has
to be some fucked up throwback to some prehistoric conception
of words like and it's it's to call like. The

(31:45):
reason why I hesitate to call it aside is because
it is the absence of sides, just like evil is
the absence of good. It is the absence of the
ability to recognize another side. I don't know what the
hell to call it. It's just avoid. It's like Tolkien's

(32:05):
spider demon who eats everything and leaves nothing but avoid.
So they just want to eat everything and leave silence.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And it's yeah, it's like a quiet place. You ever
seen that movie a quiet place with the aliens that
can hear everything and they kill whatever's there. Like they
literally find out that the aliens come from a world
where there is no sound. Okay, but anyway, let's keep going.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Never been in this brazen normal people have to log
into like an alternate Twitter account where they can post
their more unorthodox opinions. And these people are out here
full face, full name, like hell yeah, murder. What the
smug unearned confidence these people have to be openly sociopathic
with their full name and face because they live under

(33:00):
the pathetic delusion of being on the right side of
history needs to end. They will blame you for your
death because words are violence. Words are violence, So them
killing you is just self defense. That's why they're using
Kyle Rittenhouse as some kind of gotcha.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh all right, I'm gonna move up to something else. Yes,
you got it. Words of violence. We've been hearing that
since we started doing the men's issues thing, and.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Violence political discourse.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
And violence is yes, violence is just freedom of speech.
Well for them, I mean uh okay. So she goes
into a thing where she tries to explain like why
you know, like that how they define Nazi. I'm gonna
skip that because we know that it's whatever makes them uncomfortable, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Being anti death. Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
He was a fucking Nazi. And you know what kind
of nazis the best Nazi?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
By the way, you notice anything about all these videos
that they share almost almost completely in common. She was
gonna mention it, I am a.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Better person than you for celebrating the death of a
Nazi and actually it's pretty weird that you're not, and
simultaneously asking people to have empathy for the Nazi.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Nazis have children and families, right, But Nazis also get
shot in the neck.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
They don't kill you because you're a Nazi. They call
you a Nazi, so they can kill you.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
And they call you and they kill you, and then
they call you a Nazi. Yeah, nobody's scared shitless. No, actually,
I know every everybody is scared shitless of this, even
the people who presumptively share the same viewpoints as these
psycho these psychos, And honestly, I think that they chose

(34:55):
this particular viewpoint and this particular philosophy to for their
incursion into the human realm, their demonic incursion into the
human realm, because everybody nobody likes misogyny, nobody likes racism,
nobody likes homophobia, nobody likes unfair bias towards people. And

(35:17):
as a society, we are built on the idea that
people should be judged based on individual merit. So that's
what they took over and they used it because those
virtues are our virtues. Does that make sense or am
I talking out my ass?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
No that makes sense? But yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, okay, but I don't even think they have those virtues, Like, Okay,
I'm gonna go back into feminism because that's the thing
that I've been hammering at for like twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now, Well this comes from feminism.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh yeah, this is this?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean, like, are there or one comes before the other,
but they're definitely like interlinked. Like none of these people
that were cheering his death if you asked them but
they were feminists, none of them would say no.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yep. But I was looking at I. I was talking
with Grock and we were examining the how feminism approaches
domestic violence. And there is now a new intervention called
ACTV which results in fifty percent less recidivism among only

(36:23):
male perpetrators, because nobody recognizes female perpetrators, but feminists, because
they're dominant, they push the intervention that supports their ideology,
which is duluth, which has never been shown to have
any benefit on recidivism. So, in other words, feminists put

(36:43):
pushing their ideology over their stated goal of helping women.
They continue to want to push their ideology rather than
reduce the rate at which women are victimized by domestic violence.
And it's just like, at that point, all that matters

(37:03):
is that your ideology is a tool of control. All
that matters is you can say, well, I am the
one who cares about women. Therefore I'm the one who
should control the discourse. I'm the one who should say
what's hate speech, what's allowed. I'm the one who should
be able to construct a moral hierarchy with you at
the bottom, and that can include political violence against you

(37:27):
as justified. And that's all it is. They just use
people's desire to help women to take away their power.
Like I said, they turn virtue into extortion. And that's
what feminists do, and that's what these other people do.
They don't use these terms because they give a flying
fuck about any single minority group or women, right, And

(37:51):
I apologize for going into caring about women more than men.
That's not what I'm about. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.
They don't give a flying fuck about women, they don't
give a flying fuck about minorities, they don't give a
flying fuck about trans or homosexuals. They don't give a
flying fuck. What they care about is that these buttons,
we all have these buttons that they can push to

(38:12):
make us submit to them. That's what they care about.
That we respond to these terms, that we don't want
to be racist, that we don't want to be homophobic,
that we don't want to be sexist, and they push
those buttons in order to control us. They don't have
those virtues. We have those virtues. And regardless if you

(38:35):
question all of this stuff, all of us here believe
that people should be judged on their merit. All of
us here believe that people should be able to speak right.
This is the basis of being in this I don't
know this arena. Okay. Therefore, we don't want to feel
like we aren't judging people based on their merit. We

(38:58):
don't want to feel like we're silent others. So they
use those virtues that are our virtues against us to
make us submit. And that's like, that's what I'm trying
to explain when I say they don't have a side.
All they have is a desire for power. All they
have is a desire to silence people. All they have

(39:20):
is this primitive hatred of what they don't control, Like
this is, they're basically just a bunch of freaking homenids
kicking another hominid to death because it brought them fire.
It brought fire into the community, and they're like, what's
this This we don't control. We must destroy, that's all

(39:43):
it is. And they use our virtues against us. Okay, yeah,
I'll step off my soap my soapbox, all.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Right now, I'm going to talk about my personal feelings
of the situation because I know a lot of you
can relate. I know a lot of you have been
feeling the exact same way, so I will try and
put it into words for you. I have friends who
were friends with Charlie Kirk, but I didn't personally know him.
We follow each other on Twitter. I've been to the
TPUSA Amrapist in twenty twenty one. I actually went there

(40:15):
planning to make a video making fun of it, but
I had so much fun and met so many friends
that I'm still friends with to this day, so that
video never happened.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I disagreed with oh, what didn't work? So you went
over there with preconceptions and then you found out those
were human beings and then you got along with them. Interesting.
But I'm glad you didn't make that video, Shoe. I
appreciate that you went in there with the willingness to change.
You learn something, well, learn something, you know, because one
of the reasons why we're in this situation that we

(40:48):
find ourselves in. And again, this is not a new situation.
This has been going on for a very long time.
I think she was just discovering it for herself because
like most women, she's mostly shielded from this stuff. There
were two things that people just cannot say that has
put us here. One is I don't know, and the
other one is I was wrong. And because people cannot

(41:11):
do that, and instead they just, you know, what is
the saying s Jaw is always double down. They just
double down, double down, double down, or they turn a
blind eye to the things that cause cognitive dissonance. And
that's what I think. She was in a lot of
pain in this video. It's visible if you can look
at her face, you can tell that she's in pain.
I think part of that is the cognitive dissonance settling

(41:31):
in that she is experiencing because she is seeing, like
the people around her, that she travels in, you know,
exposing themselves. But anyway, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
This manipulation because like I said this, I don't maybe
some of the people who are now pushing this idea
of violence as political speech came to this with the
best intentions, but they've become so fucking distorted. It's like
that horror man. Forget who created it. But there's these
holes that are the exact shape of people, and then

(42:05):
they go in them, and then they'll sounds. The whole
is the is their exact shape, but it gradually as
they shuffle downward through the mountain, because the hole is
slanted downward, they start to distort into these strange, cracked shapes.
So eventually they'll die and then they come out the
other end and they're just like a like this this

(42:29):
broken sack of of So maybe some of these people
started with the best of intentions and they slowly got
corrupted by this this attitude of control and a threat narrative.
I'm gonna go, I'm just gonna say, a threat narrative
against the people that disagree with them, so that they

(42:53):
ended up coming out the other side completely inhuman. And
it's like it's but for.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
The most part.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I think a lot of the people who were using
these virtues, they are using them as tools of control.
And we have this in us. You see, throat all
of human history, there have been points where we've been
taken with the madness of I'll call it a threat narrative,
like Nazi Germany was a threat narrative empowered by mass

(43:21):
media period. Like that, it came from the media, it
came from desperation which ended up being distorted into hatred
and an overwhelming threat narrative which no doubt people couldn't
speak out against right because they wanted they wanted anybody
questioning it would have destroyed the soap bubble reality that

(43:46):
they existed within. It's why they want to silence people.
But they were distorted by a threat narrative, and these
individuals are also distorted by a threat narrative. Nobody that
they are saying as on the right is really a
horrible I mean, there are horrible people, but not because
they believe the things that Charlie Kirk believed, or Jordan

(44:08):
Peterson or Brian or myself, or the hippies in the
Church of Weed and the Gazebo being called Nazis by
the mass medium in Boston and having tens of thousands
of people descend on them like that. None of these
people are evil because of the things that they believe, right,

(44:33):
And I don't think that people are nessed. Well, I
guess if you believe that everybody who disagrees with you
is evil, you know, you might want to you might
want to stop and think you're being possessed by a
threat narrative. But uh, you know, I don't think these
people are Nazis, and I don't think they're evil just
because they disagree even if they disagree with me. Right,

(44:55):
if you disagree with me on something and it isn't
like basically saying a group of people is criminal, that
isn't actually criminal. Like, you know, you can say the
mafia is criminal. You could say terrorist organizations are criminal.
But things like saying men are criminal, Right, That's that

(45:16):
is a threat narrative. Now I'm gonna disagree with it.
I'm maybe not gonna silence you, but I'm definitely going
to use logic and reason to dispose of your threat
narrative anyway. So, and the problem with threat narratives is
they don't they don't survive the light of day. So
they need to be protected by people who silence any

(45:38):
any disagreement, right, And Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna step
off my soapbox because I think that I'm repeating myself.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
So okay, all right, don't stop.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
My cat is My cat is getting feisty because she
sees that I have the stresses. Nope, yeah, don't claw.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
So she was sharing like a disagreement she had with
Charlie Kirk on X. I want to ask you guys
this because I think that she thinks that this is
like an obvious response, and I don't think it's this simple.
So Charlie Kirk said Republicans should not support a bill
that pays people not to work, and then she says,
have you seen the current unemployment in this country? Charles.

(46:22):
Now that's her way of just shooting him down. But
I'm sorry, but I think Charlie Kirk is he has
a point, and don't I don't think the solution is
government pay people, because that's what she is for. She's
still for that, by the way, and I'll tell you
why it's stupid because only women are gonna get that money,

(46:45):
and only men are gonna have that money. Taken from them,
because that's how it always has been, and even men
who could benefit from it are most likely not going
to want to because they are gonna feel useless and
they don't want that. So what I think if you
asked him, if he was alive, to ask him this question,
I would say, well, and he's even talked about it already,

(47:06):
because he's talked at length about the problems with you know,
men finding, you know, making decent money, being able to
afford a home, because he knows that if men can't
do those things, then they can't attract a woman. And
I mean, of course we could bring back Dowry, and
that's a whole other conversation, but the point is he
was at least looking at the world as it was

(47:27):
and saying, you know, the welfare and government programs are
not the solution to this problem. And I'm not I
guess this is a little bit of a nitpick, but
I'm just saying, See, this is where she doesn't understand
that you don't just say, oh, we should just give
There should be gibbs, because like the people who are
calling for that have killed him or that wanted him dead,

(47:47):
are the people who stood to lose Gibbs, they become
murderous because they know that the state, this guy is
calling for a reduction in those things at the end
of the day. And worse than that, he was reaching people,
especially young people, in particular young men, and he was like,
he moved He moved men that were otherwise not involved

(48:11):
in the political process into it. And part of it
was because they then started to understand how consequential things
were for them as men. So he was reaching Zumer
men and they were starting to like move to his
positions and they were starting to recognize that their money
was being taken from them and being given to women

(48:31):
on the whole. I don't think he would say that,
but that is what's happening. And she was like, well,
I think that there should be more games. But she's
again I'm not shitting on her. I'm just saying that
she obviously doesn't realize that's how the system works, and
making it more of that is just going to do
that more and when women who are benefiting from those

(48:52):
systems in fact encouraged to take advantage of them. And
you can look at guys like Thomas Soul Milton Freeman
who have talked about this for decades. Well there, when
they see that their their meal ticket is threatened, then
guess what they're going to be okay with somebody somewhere
doing something about it, probably a man, which is what happened.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Okay, Well, I would say that there are some serious
problems in the workforce right now, and I'm not sure
if we can do really do the bootstrapping because everything
has become ossified. And but it's because of government intervention

(49:37):
in the economy, and there are no easy solutions right now,
and I'm not sure what is going to happen. But
we can't like it's it's not we can't continue like this.
We can't like the I don't think the US can
continue increasing the debt, and other countries, other Western countries

(49:58):
can't as well. So it it's just it's an intractable problem.
But I can sort of, I can I can actually
see I'm going to do on both sides. I can
see both sides. I can see the issues that she
was bringing up, and also that you can't like the
only thing that that's going to do is add fuel
to the fire.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Right Charlie was bringing He's not he wasn't ignorant of
those things though Allison, he knew that the bootstrapping thing
wasn't enough because he talked about it on Tucker's thing,
and that didn't even really even Tucker was like acknowledging
that reality that it was that wasn't the issue. But
the thing is, I think that Charlie was open to

(50:36):
discussing solutions outside of the box that did not involve
more government. Yeah, because he knew that that was the problem,
or at least a big part of the problem.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
No.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I mean, honestly, if you look at Okay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna take you into a big digression, But if
you see society and the cooperative systems of society is
actually an emergent property of men's biology, then what we've
been doing is basically deconstructing all of that. For the
last seventy years, seventy one hundred years, one hundred and twenty,

(51:08):
one hundred and fifty years, we've been deconstructing it. We've
been deconstructing the very thing that men produce that allows
everyone to survive on this planet. And now we're on
the end. We're on the end end of that deconstruction,
and everything is going to shit. Well, I mean, what
do you expect? What do you expect? And we deconstructed

(51:31):
it because we were convinced that by feminism that the things,
the unique value proposition that men give the world is
actually something that they steal from women. Yeah, and we
just put in place all the mechanisms and levers to

(51:52):
start deconstructing it because we're convinced that they steal it
from women. That's like, all of the things that we
enjoy were built by men, and they weren't built by
men because they didn't allow women to build them. Because
if women had built them, women would have built them,
and they would have been built by women because they

(52:14):
didn't exist before men built them. So how could men
exclude women from building something that didn't exist before men
built it? And that we don't none of them? Are
we ready for that dialogue? Are we ready for recognizing
that these cooperative systems, these things called civilizations are built
by men.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah, that's where it starts. Allison. For some reason, your
audio is like lagging a little bit behind the video.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I don't know, I can starting I suspect void cat
active void cat intervention or I don't know. And ironically,
even feminists don't disagree with what I'm saying because their
only solution is to create a guilt narrative in order

(53:05):
to convince men to give women the benefits of civilization.
And yet, I don't know if you've noticed, but men
sort of build civilization to benefit women and their family.
So we don't even need feminism. Why do we need
the middleman? Anyway, I'm going to try to figure out
what's wrong with my sound. I might have to quit

(53:26):
and come back in.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Please stop, Yeah, I guess, just try to leave and
come back really quick. I'll look at so you guys
send some super childs in and super chat so I
can get your thoughts on this. I think this is
like really crucial to talk about. And I know that
everyone's like the whole internet is on fire with this conversation,

(53:49):
but I think that a lot of them are missing
something crucial. Well a few things. One, this isn't new.
This is very old, so it's not like, oh my god,
what happened, because like I've been talking about this for
a long time. We have been talking about this for
a long time, that this kind of well, I mean personally,
I think it's baked in the cake, like if you're

(54:13):
if you're someone who has believes that the government should
be taken care of you, and that you believe that
it should be subsidizing like basically your lifestyle, your delusions,
your choices, basically act, you know, act as a safety
net no matter when you fail, and when it worked,

(54:36):
Yeah you came back fine.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Okay, sorry about that. I also I also kicked I
kicked Mia the voidcat out. She can go chill with
Mike for now.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Oh okay, cool, yeah, all right, okay, anyway, so let's
let's uh get back to the video.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Needs to end. They will blame you for your death
because words are violence. Words or violence, so them killing
you is just self defense. That's why they're using Kyle
Rittenhouse as some kind of gotcha. Oh, if you don't
condone political violence, why do you support Kyle Rittenhouse. They
fundamentally don't see the difference between killing someone over speech

(55:14):
and killing someone over self defense because these are the
same things to them. Also, I'm going to be the
one to point it out, because of course I am I,
so nobody else do it. Why are most of them
women like it's a good like eighty twenty ratio all
over the internet, what is going on ladies. Basically the
e and.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
You got to know that the twenty that's that's male.
They're doing it because they're simping. They want to get that,
they want to get that simply.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yes, the woman simp the woman male feminist slash simp
ratio is eighty twenty.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, this is yeah, Okay. I'm glad she noticed that,
because I did notice that myself, and I honestly it's
because women create the preconditions for violence. I'm just gonna
put it out there. They're the ones who utilate the
returning warriors. In more in tribalistic societies. They're the ones

(56:13):
who usually carry out the torture on enemy combatants and
enemy captured enemy you know that. And uh, they're the
ones who put out the white feathers. I mean not
all women. There are certain women who are have no
interest in promoting war and want to campaign against it.

(56:34):
But men war is an emergent property of treating men
as expendable as treating men's lives as expendable in the
service of all kinds of things, and it's not just war.
They are also expendable in the service of industry and

(56:55):
developing infrastructure. I mean, there's a there's a certain amount
of men who die creating the Hoover Dam. Usually, there's
a certain amount of men in the past who died
with every skyscraper, with every mile of railroad, with the
tunnel under the Thames. You know, there are men who
die for our infrastructure, and we are okay with it

(57:15):
because we believe that men's lives are expendable in the
service of building things that benefit everybody. Remember I talked
about how that civilization is an emergent property of men.
That's probably one of the reasons why. Because men will
see themselves as expendable in the service of providing for
their families and building these things that provide for everyone. Right,

(57:39):
And war is just another It's just the stupidest manifestation
of that. Because in war we see men's lives as
expendable for solving intractable political conflicts. So our politicians fuck
up and then they're like, well, let's go to war,
a stack up some bodies, and whoever stacks up the

(57:59):
high amount of dead men wins, right, and then and
then the political issue is solved. It's just because we
think that men are expendable in service of solving political issues.
That's it. And who teaches us all that men are expendable? Right?

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Men?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Do you think if men were responsible for this they
might stop that. I don't know, maybe they would continue it.
Maybe this is just a biological thing or is do
women have a have some a role to play in
raising their sons to regard themselves as expendable by saying things, well,
if little Lucy hits you, you just gotta swallow it, Timmy,

(58:42):
because your feelings are expendable. Okay, just land it out there,
just a thought.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
It's fine. I was just gonna say again, just to
show that this isn't the new thing. We have done
lots of reactions to women calling for violence and assassinations
on TikTok and YouTube and everywhere else for anybody that
they don't like. And this goes way back, Like I

(59:13):
remember when the Black Lives Matter stuff was started by
women and they used Floyd as they're like, let's say,
proxy to encourage people to like loot and burn and
steal and murder because people were murdered and people were

(59:35):
attempted there to kill Kyle Rettenhouse and women motivated that.
Yvette Falarka and other like people in Antifa were women leaders.
A lot of these are women leaders, and and all
the people who are calling for various assassination attempts on
Donald Trump, of which there were two. Someone showed up
at Nick Fointes's house with a gun to kill him.

(59:57):
There was a bunch of like politicians at a baseball
game that were shot at. And you can find videos
of women in their cars or on their beds or
in their homes, like laying on the couch eating bond bonds,
and they're just calling for murder like some kind of
French aristocrat. They but they're not the ones that actually

(01:00:18):
put themselves in harm's way. They just go online and
say I hope a brave man steps up and does something. Yeah,
And some man at some point says, oh, I'm gonna
do this for milady, and they do it like and
like if we can't acknowledge the fact that there are women,

(01:00:38):
I'm not even saying, you know, like that there are
women who exist that do this, and that there are
men who respond to it. And that's only because the
women can't do it themselves. Otherwise they would if they
were weak enough, because they obviously you can find videos
and stuff of women abusing the week when they want
to like children, and that still happens, and we still

(01:01:02):
don't take it seriously. So I'm just saying that, like,
this isn't shocking to me because I've seen it for
years and years and years, and I'm sorry if it
shocks shoe, because I understand how shocking that can be.
But but yeah, it's it's not new so uh stochastic terrorism, Yeah,
that's what it is. Yes, it's like saying, well, here's

(01:01:24):
so and so's house and address. Man, it'd be a
shame of something happened to him. And if a woman
says it I'm scared, I feel unsafe, then yeah, there
might be a man who will go and do something
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
So last year they realized how many people would celebrate
the murder of a president, and this year they realized
how many people would celebrate the murder of them. At
the end of the day, this is all the inevitable
conclusion of the punch a Nazi thing from like twenty seventeen.
Do you guys remember that we always knew it was
a slippery slope. That's why we were against it. And

(01:01:58):
they always say this, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
There's something older than that. Though boys are stupid throw
rocks at them. Hm. Anyway, I'm gonna jump ahead to
more women screaming online. Did we already do this part?
Let me see. Yeah, this is when she intended to
go fuck with him. There, We'll go here, uh, Charlie Kirk,

(01:02:20):
the modern cultural warfare has left the engaged. The left
is engaged in right now, has done more damage to
America in four years, and the conservative boogeyman of socialism
has ever done in the lifetime of our nature, and
kind of rethink our priorities and calculate a proportional response.
We love to see growth, Charles. If capitalism is so great,
why haven't they made a capitalism too.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I'm about like Bernie Sanders. I made an egg look
like his face. It is safe to say I was
no fan, but this has really shaken me in a
way that I absolutely did not expect. These last few
days after what happened, I kept going to every single
like lefty liberal, left wing person I know and like

(01:03:00):
checking out what they have been saying about this. And besides,
maybe like four or five every single one was being
an unhinged psychopath about this. Or saying some backhanded shit
like this is why we need gun control, which, first
of all, we were just watching a whole bunch of
people celebrate killing someone over political differences. You are never

(01:03:23):
taking our guns. Now that that is not happening, I
felt like I was in the middle of the ocean.
I was trying to like grasp onto a flotation device,
checking all of these accounts for their take, like be normal,
be normal, nothing nobody. I'm just drowning in a sea
of evil. Apparently maybe I was just blind up until now.
Maybe they changed, maybe I changed. Is everyone going crazy?

(01:03:46):
Or am I going crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I don't good life.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
They have not changed, and you probably have. But I'm
telling you, you're just seeing the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Remember when Shoe made her video about out men the
male lonliness thing, and she like got a bunch of
videos from her friends on the left, and they were
all like, fuck men, the same people show. It's the
same people. They haven't changed. You're just seeing them for
what they are.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Mm hmm. Yeah. And you thought that they were fellow
travelers because you might have agreed on some ethical principles,
and little did you know that they were basically some
kind of I mean, demonic entity deciding that those are
the principles that it's going to use to manifest itself. Yeah,

(01:04:38):
I hate using the dehumanizing language.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
But they're demons. Yes, it's it's I'll just say it's evil.
I mean, like everyone's calling them demons now, but I
mean it is evil behavior. But that's what I saw
for a long time. And I don't, like, I don't
want to you humanize anyone, but that's just what I'm seeing.

(01:05:03):
Like I'm just it's the reality. Like I'm sorry, you know,
we we wrestle, not with flesh and blood anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
All I know is it is clear how they reacted
to this is how they would react to me, my family,
my friends, you, your family, your friends that have ever
stepped out of line from the nebulous, ever changing definition
of progressive. These are people I thought were level headed.
They were left wing, but you know, like they were

(01:05:33):
one of the good ones, like you can joke with them.
You know, they weren't those like woke sj w's, Like
they were cool, we can disagree and still be friends.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You know, Well, your friends.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Wouldn't celebrate you being murdered, of course, but if they
would celebrate an exact pone of you that was you,
that had all the same opinions or some of the
opinions that you have, if they would celebrate that clone

(01:06:10):
being murdered, They're not your friend. I'm friends with people
who are friends with Charlie, and I see how they
are completely broken about this, seeing them like this, and
then at the same time my other friends posting shit
like rip bozo, it's just sick. It's just sick shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Personally, Yes, it's sick, you know. And where do you
go from here?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Oh? We have to Where do we go from here?
Do you have an idea before I say something?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Oh? No, you go ahead, and maybe I'll say something after.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
We have to stop bickering amongst ourselves. We have to
like come together because we are dealing with murderous assholes.
And I've been saying that for a long time. And
there are people who will kill you, and then there
are people who will make excuses for you getting killed,
and we have to basically treat them, and we have

(01:07:19):
to outcast them. We have to alienate them. We have
to like just they can't be We can't talk to them.
They don't want to. They know what they're doing is evil.
They want what is the saying sam Hi had is saying,
they want you dead, They want your family dead, they
want your children brainwashed and raped, and they think it's funny. Like,

(01:07:42):
I mean, that's what it is. And I'm sorry. It's
like I don't want to draw a line in the sand.
They drew it. But I'm telling you, this has been
the thing for a long time and I'm just done
playing nice with these people. I mean even I didn't,
but like, this is the reality. This is what we're
looking at. And when I saw what happened to Charlie,

(01:08:03):
I didn't think, like, oh my god, my favorite right
wing like commentator died. Like I didn't even watch his content,
And as far as I could tell, he was probably
the most mid moderate dude ever. So if they would
be willing to do that to a super moderate, reasonable
guy who was willing to talk to people and was
definitely against violence, what would they do to somebody like me?

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I mean, like I told my I thought my mother
in law about this, and she was very worried for
Lindsey and myself. Now, granted it's a bit egotistical to think, oh,
I'm just the same. But and I don't obviously think that.
But the truth is is that, like that is a
thing that we have to consider, you know. And I

(01:08:51):
spoke to when I was up in Canada, I reached
out to Jennifer Daw. You guys remember Jennifer Daw. She
was a game developer, big gamer Gate person. Knew American McGee,
the guy who created the American McGee Alice series. And
I said, I wanted to meet up with Jennifer because
we saw her at the very first meet up we

(01:09:11):
went to back in you know, twenty fifteen or whatever
it was, and Jennifer said that she didn't want to
get out of bed because of the assassination. And it
was because she said that an attempt on her life
was made because of her views. Jennifer Daw is an
an cap. That's it. She's just a super libertarian and cap.

(01:09:36):
And she now lives she's like homesteading outside of the
city of Calgary somewhere, like raising rabbits and barely posts online.
And you know, I mean, that's how close it is.
Like Jennifer is somebody I know, and she was in danger.
American McGee's sister was in danger, like this isn't free

(01:10:00):
and shit, that's out of reach, you know. So, like,
I think that we really have to rethink how we
stand with people who are not crazy and don't want
us dead, even if we don't agree, and we have
to in my opinion, we have to like reach out
to them and be like, dude, I'm not going to

(01:10:21):
kill you. Let's be friends. Will work out our differences later.
Right now, we have to deal with Cuthulhu because that's
what it is, right So that's that I mean, that's
that's what I think. Yeah, I was that mister three
or three said Brian was nearly one of the January
sixth people. Yeah, I was ready to go. I was

(01:10:42):
gonna go to January sixth and talk to people, and
I Lindsey was like, don't go, I mean, and I didn't,
but I could have been not only like imprisoned for
being there for like six years or whatever however long
it was five and a half something like that. No,
it was like it was like eight years almost because

(01:11:04):
it happened in twenty twenty and they didn't get out
until twenty twenty or twenty Yeah, so twenty twenty five anyway.
So yeah, I mean that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
So, yeah, I don't know what to say. But you
guys who think that being on the right side of
history or advocating for some kind of utopia justifies political

(01:11:41):
violence against the people who agree with you, you are That's
not the way. And I wonder if the end goal
isn't the actual violence, isn't actual the power, the actual
power and control, isn't actually feeling other people feel fear

(01:12:05):
r if that isn't your end goal, and you're so
called virtues or just excuses, right, this is not this
is not this is not the way forward. You guys
aren't progressive. Somehow, thinking yourself so progressive, you became throwbacks.

(01:12:27):
And I think it might be because you know the
same thing that happens when we don't hold women to
standards and women descend to the standards we don't hold
them to. When you think that your belief system puts
you above human morality, then you are going backwards rapidly. Yeah,

(01:12:50):
Or it puts yourself above whatever you want to call it, karma,
treating your neighbor as you wish yourself to be treated, right,
whatever you want to call it. You think that you
are above the harms you do others and you're not.
No political position puts you above the harms you do others,

(01:13:12):
and no abstraction from oh this speech or this action
in the abstract it harms people. That doesn't excuse you
going out and physically harming someone. Okay, yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Right, I got a couple of superchows. Cool, So thank you.
Zara ANX gives us five and says the government needs
to find a way to revitalize the dollar. Our government
has been hollowing the dollar. I equate it to a
bag of beans made less substantial until there's half a
bean in a bag, and we need multiple bags with
half a bean in it to manage our needs. At
some point, we can't manage enough carts to hold said

(01:13:52):
bags to buy a load of bread. This is why
I absolutely disagree with the statists, the people clamoring for
higher wages. Charlie Kirk is all so one of those,
and agree with those saying Republicans that are progressive are
going the speed limit. Oh, Republicans are progressives going to
the speed limit? I'd say they're cruising though, thank you, Zarans. Yeah,

(01:14:13):
I don't think it's those solutions for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Okay, Well, here's the thing nobody should be using, like
their claims of needing safety to take away other people's freedoms, right,
I mean, I mean, within reason, people should obey traffic
laws when they're operating a motor vehicle and a forklift.

(01:14:38):
But like that whole thing about for example, Koof where
the justification was that if we our freedoms created a
point zero zero zero one increase risk of possibly fatal illness. Well, sorry,
that's life, and I think that's what Kirk, Charlie Kirk meant. Right.

(01:15:01):
You can't make things safe, and the safer you make things,
the less safe you are. Strangely enough, like, what is
that statement somebody who sacrifices freedom for.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Security security deserves.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
We'll get neither. Get neither because the people who are
willing to make that deal with you you don't want
to have power over you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yes, exactly. Okay, so I got another super chow. Great
Indoors gave us. The little Great Indoors who was at
the meet up, by the way, gave us five dollars
and says this is in regard to the tweet reaction
of show to that of Charlie being in favor of
the state forcing people to pay for something that doesn't

(01:15:49):
result in any productivity, is using the threat of state
violence as a means to an end. The entire philosophy
of the left has this viewpoint as its foundation. They
have top down solutions for every problem they encounter, increasing
the amount of state threat to violence along the way.
In my opinion, it's no wonder we end up at
these societal or yeah, societal crossroads. Yeah. I mean they're

(01:16:13):
already using violence when they use the state, so that's
why they're okay with violence. Zara Ax gives us a
super chat for five and says, the interesting thing about
BLM is that was allegedly started by a black man
to get black people to recognize we matter, and then
it was taken over. Well, that's interesting, and I think
I feel like I knew that. So BLM was originally

(01:16:34):
started by a black man to recognize in the black
larger black population that black men matter and they exist.
That can't be allowed. We have to rewrite that so
that we write what do they say that we we
we disrupt the the uh, Yeah, like the nuclear family,
and we're gonna have children raised by parents and communities

(01:16:59):
and villages and non binary people and trans people, but
not men, not definitely not men, but everybody else is
allowed to participate in the raising of children. And I
got something I want to read because til Deer is watching.
He's commenting on Rumble. So he says, it is a
religious belief in the Forever Revolution to free people's souls

(01:17:20):
from their bodies at the end of history. They don't
know that. They don't know that, but it is the
foundation of their thought. Their morality is the spark of
the divine of the Godhead trapped in the material you
preventing them from releasing. That is you putting your morality
above the divine. They literally think they have a heavenly

(01:17:41):
mandate while not realizing they are religious. That's part of
what makes this leftist cult so dangerous. Also, black men
are the white people of black people. Okay, so TiAl
Deer is well read on this. Okay, let's keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
I would rather live in a world full of Charlie
Kirk's who would sit down and debate than a world
full of people who agree with me but would murder
people who don't. Because if it's now normalized to just
murder people who disagree with you, politically, we don't have
a society like that's it, it's over, But some of
these people we do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
If we get rid of everybody who wants to do that.
And I don't mean like get rid of them, I
mean like kick them out of the country or something,
put a put them on the ice floe, stend them
out and let them have their society over there, you know,
mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
In particular, like why the fuck are you celebrating you?
They think you're a Nazi too. They'll make a nice
compilation of all the hot takes you've had over the
years and spread it around to justify your murder. Yep,
you don't get it, do you? We are all Charlie Kirk.
I have been doing this for eleven years. I have
been harassed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
In twenty eighteen with the Nazi The Boss show, CNN
show us the Nazis in Boston. That's the video that
I did. I pointed this out, this should terrify anyone
because it doesn't matter what you say or what you believe,

(01:19:19):
this tool they call you a Nazi, will justify any
violence against you. And I pointed out that the powers
that be, the media, the government, the big corporations, They
love a tool like that because they can remove anyone
with it, they can silence anyone with it, and because

(01:19:40):
nobody's allowed to have free speech, the person they call
a Nazi can't tell you different.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
As soon as they're labeled a Nazi, that's it for them.
They're done. And this tool is now ruling our political discourse,
and it's not a discourse. We remove it entirely until
nobody nobody put an accusation of being a Nazi is

(01:20:10):
not credible, it's ridiculous, and nobody acts on it. But
I don't, like, I don't know how to like talking
about going forward, I don't know how to deprogram these people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
That's what we need. We need the Deprogramming Women. Oh serious,
I think, yeah, the Deprogramming Women series, like because I
think that if you can do that, I bet other
things will fall into.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
The Oh well, it's like it's like Maywest said, when
women go bad, men go right after them. It's just
and the thing is that it's it is women because
it's always women first. Like sometimes I think that a
lot of men don't know what the hell they're doing.
They just follow women.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Well, they presume that women are more you know, what
do we tell them? Women are more emotionally intelligent, women
are more virtuous, women are more they're just better people.
So they We've conditioned at least one, if not multiple
generations of men, probably going all the way back to
the boomers, to defer to women for their moral compass.

(01:21:25):
And women have led that, I think, And I think
that's why. And of course when women lose lose that
because you know, there are no standards, so they just
get to just be however they want. Then the men
will follow them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Yes, And so why is it women first? Why is
it mostly women? Because it's always mostly women, Yeah, always
mostly women going into these moral chasms. We just swan
diving into them. Oh look evil, I'm just gonna on

(01:22:00):
out and jump in there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
And it's women because men.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Yeah, and and well you know it is the word
the saying goes. Men move in the shadow of women's desire.
So women say they like a certain thing, then men
go right after them. Well, I don't know if we
this video is in here, this clip is in here,
but there is a woman who says, whoever kills Charlie Kirk, Like,
that's how you get a woman, That's how you find

(01:22:29):
a woman.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
So she was literally saying, if you kill, if you
kill you see if I can find the clip here,
if you kill, if you killed someone for women in
the beginning, you is it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
It might have been the compolition Yeah, yeah, I think
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Uh yeah, yeah, so if you if you kill people
like Charlie Kirks, that's how you get laid.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Whoever their enemies are.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
But yeah, that's how you get female approval.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
How do you think wars started in the past?

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Yeah, who do you think with sable rabbit?

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Sable saber rabbit at least? And then and then feminists
of the audacity to say who who starts worse? What
women start wars? It seems like from what I've been seeing,
and it's men who are expended in ending them, because honestly,
what the whole war, part of war is really just
ending it. All of this war really starts in the

(01:23:29):
beginning when you have all of these women that say, oh,
if you just go out and kill a hunt, you
know that it's gonna get you cucci, you know, and
all this other agitating and wanting and desiring and promoting
resentments between groups of people, right like what you see
with the terrorist organization. It's the women who do the recruiting,

(01:23:52):
who maintain the resentment and the finances and the continuity. Well,
that's you've just writ large in there. You have a
nation agitating for war because it's women are saber rattling.
They start the war. It's the men who end it
at the cost of their lives. The greatest fiction we

(01:24:15):
ever bought into was this idea that women are somehow
better than men, Like I'm I'm clinging with my with
my frickin fingernails to the idea that women aren't profoundly worse.

(01:24:36):
I know, maybe this will make people laugh, like that
women aren't actually so much worse than men, like I'm
clinging to the idea that this is this situation that
we see right now is because we've had generations of
women being taught that they have nothing to take responsibility
for and they don't have to consider the emotions of

(01:24:57):
anybody but themselves and their pet social projects, right, which
often just amount to having guilt tools to inflict on men.
Like I'm really holding on to this idea that no, actually,
the problem is that women aren't held to any kind
of standard it's not in women itself and women themselves, right,

(01:25:20):
I'm clinging to that with my fingernails, and over and
over there are women who come and start trying to
batter that notion out of my hands, like I'm just
clinging to it. I'm like, okay, okay, if we hold
women to standards, they would be as good as men,

(01:25:40):
they would be. I'm clinging to this, and I have
women after women after women trying to batter that out
of my hands. Like what I'm clinging to, which is
the notion that it wouldn't be better for women to
be replaced with sex spots with wounds like that. Maybe
there is a point to all of this, and there

(01:26:03):
is a point at which something is revealed that makes
it all make sense, and that women actually live up
to something and justify the amount of shit that they
get to exist. Do you get what I'm saying, Brian,
to justify the fact that men have done so much

(01:26:24):
to provide safety, security, and wealth and comfort to women,
that there is something that women will do. So if
I'm waiting, let's wait, Okay, there's got to be something.
There's gotta be right. I'm clinging to that, and let
me tell you my biggest enemy to clinging to the

(01:26:45):
notion that women have value is women. Okay, misogynist rant
over all right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
I got a comment from tildere I want to read again,
Thank you kill dear for your input. Women replace God
as the spiritual center of the home to forgive men
of their sin gathered outside the home, another feminist spiritualist moral.
It all goes back there every time. And then he
says every genocide in history is just the logical endpoint
of women can't fighting each other? Thank you? Yes, okay,

(01:27:20):
I like that, doesn't it? It does? It does.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
What we're seeing in social media sort of confirms that
my suspicion, uh huh, like every political thing that we're
dealing with can be can be. It's reduced down to
two groups of women arguing over some shit, including roads
for women.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Yep, okay and whatever you name it for eleven years
by the left, and it hasn't moved me an inch
because that's not how politics works. That's lunch table politics.
People on your side being mean to you doesn't mean
you overnight change your opinions on like healthcare. It doesn't
work that way. I still have all my economic left opinions.

(01:28:06):
I'm for strong social safety nets, workers rights unions, wealth caps, whatever.
That has not changed. This is not me leaving the
least because frankly, I don't even know how to do that.
This is me and many many people looking around us
at our so called allies and realizing that even though
we might share some like political opinions, we fundamentally do

(01:28:28):
not have the same values or morals. And are we
really allies if we agree on like taxes but don't
agree on the sanctity of human life?

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Okay, I'm just gonna move ahead a little bit. So
still economic left, So that's fine, your business. So I
think that, uh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Not economic left, but I'm willing to have an economic
discussion with a dirty Keynesian.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Kenesian.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Sorry that no, I mispronounced it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
I mispronounced it canuck canusin what Canadian?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
No I mispronounced the word?

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
I'm sorry, what's the word?

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Kajian?

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Kensian?

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Kensian? A dirty Kensian? Yes, yeah, information was eventually conveyed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Okay, I got it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Anyway, the way we view death now is just crazy,
and I feel like a lot of that has to
do with the desensitization in part thanks to the Internet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
I don't know about that, but she she explains that
people can look at Gore online and so they become
desensitized and they don't think it's happening. I think it's
more maybe that that the Charlie Kirk has been and
a lot of people on the right and MRAs have
been sufficiently dehumanized. Remember we used to talk about or

(01:30:09):
Alison made a video about dehumanizing language. Men in particular
have been dehumanized for a long time. So when men die,
like people, especially people who are kind of let's say,
what's the word I'm looking for, sheltered from this stuff,

(01:30:30):
they don't have a normal reaction. Like how many people
when Warren Ferrell was going to that he went to
Toronto to talk and there were all those protesters outside,
like fucking scum girl back in when was that twenty
twelve or something, and they were they probably if he

(01:30:54):
would have died, they would have celebrated it. So I
don't think if if he would have died on camera U,
they probably would have celebrated. I don't think that this
is a new thing. I don't. I mean me, I'm
I'm fine, you like I'm I'm open to being proven
wrong about that, but I don't think. I think it's
because these especially these women that are making these videos online,

(01:31:17):
like their whole life is organized around the sort of
like cultural stories. That's why they're always referencing, you know,
Harry Potter and The Handmaid's Tale, because they don't live
in reality. They live in like TV world, Like they
watch TV and they watch movies, and they see people
dying in film and television, and and like they get
this mindset that like people in the real world that

(01:31:38):
they dislike are just like the villains on TV. So
when they die, they're just like, oh, I didn't like
that guy. I didn't like that character. And I think
that's what it is. I don't think it's like cause,
I mean, I have watched gore content online and when
I saw Charlie Kirk get shot, I was shocked. When
I saw that girl get stabbed on the on the train.

(01:32:00):
I've seen people die, uh, you know, in real life
on videos, and it doesn't I'm not desensitized to it
because I know that's a real person, you know, that
has like family and friends. It's not like a character
in a movie. So okay, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
No, no, no, that's not you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
I'm just and stuff like that, and what.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Just you know, it's like cats didn't get a really
good night's sleep mm hmmm, because cats hate.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Sleep only for you. They don't want you to get sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Yeah, they're fine with their own sleep, and they prefer
you know, if if you disturb their sleep, they savagely
savage you. But you know they're fine absolutely ruining your sleep. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
And you see someone set on fire, if someone gets
stabbed on a train, and when someone like Charlie dies,
it's not even real to people anymore. Like it's like
a movie or show. Oh that character died. People around you,
you can't say to these people who are celebrating this
and justifying this, you can't say, what if that was

(01:33:13):
your dad or your brother getting killed for their opinions,
because they've already cut those people off. They've already cut
those people off out of their lives, and posting videos
and pictures of Charlie's wife and young kids will not
move these people at all, because they hate their lives,
they hate their families. They are atomized bug people. They

(01:33:35):
are the unfortunate product of modern society, and I feel
bad for them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
I pity them, and I wish I could help them,
But I have bugman fatigue and for the people blind rage.
List of all of Charlie Kirk's biggest hits to convince
me that I should hate him and should not mourn him.
If you thought what Charlie Kirk said is wrong, you
could have debated him. He was one of these people

(01:34:01):
left willing to do that, and now he's gone. Charlie
was a fan of free speech. But I'm worried whoever
comes after Charlie won't be like even from a political standpoint,
not even.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Oh no, the backlash. They murdered a guy, the next
guy might be might be like less like for free speech.
I don't think so. But okay, the backlash, No, I'm I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Think I know understand what she's saying. What, well, maybe not,
maybe I'm reading into it. But here's the thing, all right.
We have a society in which people can engage in
these kinds of discussions, or we did, and because of that,
that is where prosperity and advancement comes from. It comes

(01:34:47):
from freedom of speech, and it comes from a society
that enables that kind of cooperative communication of ideas. And
and that enables more political solution, like more more the
increatess a larger pool of solutions politically. I can go
into more historically about that. But when one side, i'll

(01:35:12):
use the word side starts, starts the process of destroying
this kind of civil civil conversation. So the left basically
brings a club like a bludgeon to the discourse. Eventually

(01:35:37):
the right is going to have to abandon civil discourse
because you can't have it. When you're being beaten to
death with a club, you have to pick up a
club and fight back, and through no fault of the
people responding to the club, civil discord dies.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I don't know if that's what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
There might be, it might be.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
But.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Honestly, there and you can't, like, you can't sit there
and say, well that's that. You know, I don't understand
why the right picked up a club. Yeah, you understand.
Because they don't want to end up being killed. They
don't want to end up being rolled into a mass grave.
They don't want to end up being you know, murdered

(01:36:29):
in ovens. They don't want to end up being put
in concentration camps. Right, so they have to pick up
a club and respond in kind. But that moment all
discourse dies. Yeah, and that is the end. Like that

(01:36:49):
is the pinnacle of our civilization and everything after downhill.
And there's like I said, you can't say, oh, while
I don't understand why the right did that, of course
you understand. So this dance requires both sides to be
willing to engage in it. And when one side decides

(01:37:13):
that they're no longer willing to engage in it and
they're willing to embrace violence as a tool as a
political tool, it's over. That's the end. So when I
say we need to deprogram these people, I'm not kidding. Like,
if we don't, this is this is where we want
our society decrest, then then we can't. We can continue

(01:37:37):
to respond in kind. What we are aren't even starting
to respond in kind. But eventually it will happen. Eventually,
it will happen. It has to happen, right, And even
I would even argue that maybe widespread killing hasn't happened.
But the censorship, the getting people fired, that is is

(01:38:00):
lowering the tenor of discourse and trying to erase it
from civil society, which means that when you stop being
able to talk freely. When you stop being able to
exchange ideas freely, that's the top. Everything after is down.
And if we don't want that, then somehow we have
to deprogram these people. Like you said, deprogrammed women, they

(01:38:24):
sort of are coming from them.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
Well, it's the same. I think it's the same. It's
the same, it's the same DNA. So yeah, deprogramming women
is probably like more relevant than ever in my opinion
in terms of like, you know, I don't know seeing
like change. I mean in my day to day life,

(01:38:51):
I don't see any issues, but I'm in a different
kind of community. But I think that, like you know,
it's something that we're going to have to confront for
other people's benefit, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Well, I mean I agree, like I don't see many
issues in my community either, not, you know, I mean
I see people who sort of reflect some of the issues.
So I've heard, like women talk about their dating in
a very callous and cruel way here, and I've I've

(01:39:25):
heard like there's a there is a there is an
extreme radical MiG town in my town now, which is
pretty surprising since it's a small town. You know, Jonathan
actually had a conversation with him, and I'm like, so
the stuff is here, but for the most part, people
are just getting on with getting on. And I think
part of it is because the town still sort of
has an identity of who built it, so we know

(01:39:50):
the families that were part of building it and and
all that. So there's there's there's like a more of
an identity here. But yeah, this but it's not just
about like general chaos everywhere. It's about striving for something more,
Like are we striving for something more anymore? That that's

(01:40:14):
that is part of the pinnacle thing, right, we stopped striving,
we stopped dreaming, and that's this is what they're destroying.
I mean, they're destroying lives. They're destroying livelihoods. They're also
destroying dreaming and creativity and striving and human expression. It's
why everything they produce is absolute trash. I mean, it

(01:40:37):
used to be that more liberal minded people could create
beautiful works of art, but suddenly it's like it's all awful.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
I can show you something, Okay, go ahead to that point,
let me find it. Hold on a second. So this
was something that someone worked on. This is a it
looks like a rock and they painted it. I'm not
really sure if it would if it's supposed to be
something else, but they painted it and they drew like

(01:41:10):
Charlie Kirk on the side and it says, if you
believe in something, you need to have the courage to
fight for those ideas, not run away from them or
try to silence them. Charlie Kirk nineteen ninety three to
twenty twenty five. And then activists came along and they
just graffitiized it and just put BLM on it for
some reason. And I have a video of the person

(01:41:31):
who did it, and I thought that was interesting because
it was like showing, yeah, here we go, University of
North Carolina, Wilmington. There's the wait, he said, on my page?
Where's my page at? I should go back to uh
here where they showed the person defacing it. I have
a video of it. Yeah here. It is so so yeah.

(01:41:59):
They're killing creative too on purpose, and it is it is.
The goal is uglification of everything, and the purpose of
that is to demoralize. And that's another reason why they
aggress too against people, because you know, when these protests happen,

(01:42:20):
what do what does antifa do? What do the protesters do.
What does BLM do. They show up with their umbrellas
or whatever, and they try to get people to hit them.
They try to get they they antagonize violence. They're trying
to get violence, and usually they don't, but they do everything.

(01:42:40):
Remember when they poured urine on Lauren Southern's head, this
was like a long time ago. Or when they kicked
the shit out and you know, and gave him. I
think it's some brain damage and we had a little
bit of brain damage. You had to go to the hospital.
I mean, you know, I can go on and uh yeah.

(01:43:00):
They want things to escalate because they want to be
victims of that, because then they can justify, you know,
using the state to kill their enemies because they they
think their enemies are the devil. So it's the only solution. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
I just let the cat back in. Okay, cat's backed
the very next day, I guess the cat came back.
Thought it was a gunner, but the cat came back away.
This is like classic Canadian Canadian.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
I remember that song. I remember that song. Okay, I
got a super chow another one. Thank you from the
one good man who gives us. Let me see how
we're doing on the live stream, we got we got
like over one hundred people watching.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Five dollars. Many women also seem more shocked that a
hot blonde did a jeans advert than that a hot
blonde was horrifically murdered on a train. They also seem
shocked by the reaction. Well, the woman who was murdered
on the train wasn't wasn't competition for these women, Sidney
Sweeney was That's why? Uh, well ahead, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Like that is a good point. Yeah yeah, but but again,
like I just went through with uh grok finding out
that there is an intervention that could substantially reduce the
rate at which women experience domestic violence, and feminists are
no doubt impeding it because they want to promote their ideology. Yep, yeah,

(01:44:35):
they don't give a crap about women. Mm hmm, Like
it's it is just that that's just what they chose
because we give a crap about women. And then they
tell us, oh, you guys don't give a crap about women,
and if you give a crap about women, which you don't,
you'd give us money and do what we say, and
of like idiots, we agree to that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Like idiots, because the funny thing is again that these
women who these feminists don't care about women. All they
care about is using women to get money and control people.
And they're using the fact that the people they say
don't care about women do care about women to get

(01:45:21):
that money in control. Astounding, isn't it. It's disgusting? Actually,
all right, continue, sorry, it's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Nova Fan twenty one gave us a rumble rant for
one dollar and says the lefties who are upset at
Jimmy Kimmel getting quote unquote canceled have no room to
talk about free speech. They demanded we get fired from
our jobs when accused of racism and transphobia. Don't don't
don't forget Also for going to school or work when
you weren't supposed to or yeah or what.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Or being accused of misogyny or having.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
The wrong or going through a convention with the wrong
opinion right or or yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Or or in Johnny Depp's case, being the victim of
abuse yep, you know, on an allegation by a woman.
They also supported that, you know that, did you know that?
I'm pretty sure that more men have been canceled over
allegations from women than anything to do with transphobia. Mm hmm, okay, But.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
The wokies are also calling to boycott Disney because, like
Jimmy Kimmel's show is on ABC and ABC is owned
by Disney, so they're calling for boycott's. Even the woman
who played she Hulk is like, I I suggest you
all stop stop subscribing to Disney Plus. And I'm like,
I think I thought you caused us to stop subscribing,

(01:46:47):
if anything, No, but so yeah, I guess I like
Disney now, or like the people who work at who
work there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Well, alternatively, you don't subscribe to Disney Plus because it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Trash that's worth watch. No, it's all it's all trash. Yeah,
I haven't. Why I haven't. I never had an account
never so, but it's just really funny that the the
Disney has fire Jimmy Kimmel and now they're losing their
people too, and so I don't know what's going to
be left of it. It's gonna be a creator. But anyway,

(01:47:22):
back to this stories, they could they could try doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Yes, here, I'll thump you here there you gommump.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
All right, let's keep going Okay, why are you celebrating
like the most popular college gen z political pundit dying? Like,
why are you celebrating him becoming a murtyer? Say goodbye
to that young mail vote. All the liberal Joe Rogan's
in the world are not fixing this. I just hope,
for the sake of this country that political violence does

(01:47:56):
not become normalized, does not become a thing. I really
don't want to see that happen. I don't want to
see retaliation. I don't want to see us fall into
a civil war. I don't know. This has all been
extremely black pilling. I think I'm going to take a
break from politics. I don't know. I'm a YouTuber, like,
I'm not a political pundit, right, I'm not. My goal here.

(01:48:17):
My purpose here is to entertain, is to make people laugh.
That is what I'm going to do. That is what
I will continue to do. The news cycle will move on,
the world will move on. Charlie Kirk's kids won't move on.
His daughter won't move on. His daughter does not have
a dad anymore. Noting sucks. That sucks. I don't know

(01:48:42):
what else to say. I love you, guys, Thank you
for listening. To my crash out. If you're new here,
my videos usually are not like this. They're actually nothing
like this.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
All right, I posit there? Uh again, credit where credit
is due. She acknowledges that ultimately that family lost its
father her mm hmm. And that's like just true. Of
course they felt like it was okay because fuck dads.
Am I right? And I think that's another big part

(01:49:13):
of it. And they were saying that if you look
at the the clips of women, mostly women, celebrating it,
they were just like, fuck dads, fuck that kind of
dad especially. Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Okay, Honestly, I don't know how even if he does
have his own opinion on transgenderism, I don't know how
you can exclude that, considering we don't really understand it,
if what what the what the precise phenomenon is and
properly diagnose it. Yeah yeah, but anyway, okay, yeah, this

(01:49:53):
she obviously is not it's quite upset by this.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah, credit to her, although I mean, honestly, how can
you what do these people expect if they think that
anybody who doesn't agree with them, Oh my my my

(01:50:21):
phone is ringing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Somebody is trying to you froze.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Yeah, Yeah, it's because.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Of my floating. The cat is floating in your hand.
There's something magic going on.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Yeah, my arms look gigantic because they're close to the lens.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
I'm taking us to the gun show, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Not that I have really great guns. I just what
was I saying? Okay, so many things happened at once.
My ADHD kicked in, and now I've squirreled and I
don't know where I am. It's a credit to her
that she's, uh, she's starting to question all this. I

(01:51:06):
don't know how you can continue to be friends with
somebody who would celebrate your murder if they didn't know you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Yeah, have you seen some of the unhinged things that like,
I'm not going to put it up on the screen
or anything, but because we're going to wrap it up.
I think it's been two hours just about. But like
some of the mainstream moderate types like Destiny have been saying, oh, man,
I mean, you know, it's well, like I said, I'm

(01:51:36):
just glad that I don't know those people personally.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
I have, like you know, people that I know in
real life that are but I have lost a lot
of friends over the past ten years, and I feel
very dehumanized by them, which is really painful, you know.
But I mean I already went through that. I went
through that years ago, sadly, So.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Okay, just uh, I just tithed to the void. So
hopefully I'll have a few moments of peace.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
Yeah, I mean I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
I don't think I never really had friends, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Never went to Yes figured as much. Yeah main Street. Yeah,
Destiny is supposedly moderated. He calls himself the moderate liberal
for sure, and a lot of people consider that. I'm
telling you, though, that those distinctions don't matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
So no, I mean, really, the only distinction is this,
are you? Are you a person who wants to use
words as a means to identify enemies and subjugate them,
or are you somebody who uses words to convey concepts?

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
I think this is how language broke into so many pieces,
is that people no longer wanted to understand each other.
And where I guess we're there again. We're at the
Tower Tower of Babel again, guys. And yes, I guess
I should continue my series deprogramming women so that we

(01:53:12):
can do something that I can present a possible explanation.
It's it's yeah, it's essentially what happened is the guy
who I was working with it Eduardo. I don't know
what happened to him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
And part of the guy who used to make the cartoons.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Yeah, the cartoons, and so I had the higher production values.
But now I mean, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Working on might be able to get Luke to help
you out, but he's not going to be cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Yeah, that's that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
You can get Luke to help you out. He's a
really good animator. I'm going to be talking to him
on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Yeah, okay, good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
And the other thing is I have this project that
I'm working on called Why Sally Rejects stew which is
sort of connected to the Deprogramming Women project, but it's
more about dating and greater implications the problems in dating
and they're greater implications for our society. So that's what

(01:54:12):
I guess I could call that part of Deprogramming Women.
It's just I don't know. I like I really it
stumps me, guys, because the only thing I can think
of is that we need to have a new understanding

(01:54:33):
of the relationship between men and women and I don't
know if that really comes from a lot of women.
If I look throughout history, it tends to just come
from a certain subset of women who hold very close
to a new set of values. Basically, like to use
the example the Sabine women who ended the war between

(01:54:54):
the Sabine men and the Roman men and thus founding Rome.
We're probably like thirteen women, but they were very dedicated
to the values that they espoused. So maybe what we
need is just a very small kernel of women who
are willing to take responsibility, don't shirk from blame, and

(01:55:21):
are willing to actually negotiate something reasonable with men right
and willing to stop this insanity. Maybe it just takes
a small kernel of women willing to do that, and
then we can build from there. Maybe there's a way
that you can scale women like that. Maybe, or or

(01:55:44):
we just do sex spots with artificial wombs. Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Yeah, So real quick on the Jimmy Kimmel thing, uh,
because some people are saying that, you know, this is
censorship and the FCC it was like, you know, more
pressure by the White House to take the show down.
That's not true. I think that his show sucked. Nobody

(01:56:07):
watched it, and you can see that. Tim Poole gave
us some stats some that shows that the The Tonight
Show is It Tonight Show starring Jimmy Kimmel only got
average one hundred and twenty nine thousand viewers on I
think there are internet memes that get more views in that.

(01:56:30):
I think that there are cat videos that get way
more views in that. I don't know if we are,
maybe we're catching up to the Tonight Show, but that's
what it is. The show sucked, nobody watched it, and
the FCC was like, oh, we can use this to
we can use what's happening right now with the criticism

(01:56:51):
and stuff to as an opportunity because Jimmy Kimmel lied
about Charlie Kirk when he did his bid on him.
He lied about the shooter, and so they were like,
we're gonna use this to cancel the show or at
least put him on. The hiaties didn't even cancel the show.
They just put him. They suspended him, so he's not
even fired. So I'm telling you guys, don't let them

(01:57:11):
play victim on this because that's not true. And I
knew that. When I heard this, I was like, I
think it's because the show sucked and nobody watched it.
Bring back Craig Ferguson and you guys will be fine.
He'll hit on all of the guests. He's got a
great Scottish accent, and he's a lot funnier than most
of these guys. But that's just what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Yeah, well, I mean if he's lying about Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
He lied about Charlie Kirk and his killer.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
I mean, because one thing, it's one thing to make
an off color, black humor joke that none of what
we saw was that, just to deal with the misery
of it, you know what I mean, and then celebrating
or lying about the person or lying about the situation

(01:57:56):
like this is now you're I mean, they're there is
free speech, but you can't slander people and you can't
incite violence. I mean, I know you're a free speech absolutist,
I believe. Are you still a free speech job?

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
So you don't agree with Jimmy Kimmel being fired.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Oh that's not but no, that's the thing is that's
him getting fired for having a shitty show. Like if
you don't do your job, well, you get fired. That's
not even if your job is talking, that's not like censorship.
That's you sucking. That's why I said the show should continue.
Get somebody that's good to be on it and make
the content good and maybe not just like TDS like

(01:58:38):
twenty four hours a day. That's why I say, get
Craig Ferguson. He's funny and I think he can keep
it light, you know, Okay, for somebody that's really good
at interviewing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
Do you believe that the people who are celebrating this
should get fired celebrating?

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Well again, I think of censorship or the First Amendment
as more of a government thing, not a company anything.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
I would say no, Yes, I say.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
No, I don't. I don't. Well look I don't think
so either. But I mean I can't tell them not
to do the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Is this, they're the ones who now set the tenor
of engagement.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
Yes, that's what that exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
I say, no, I don't think that's a good idea.
But you guys don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
To hold them to their standards because they don't. They
only do this to us because they know that we
have standards like, oh yeah, this is your principle. So
I'm going to hold you to your principle, but they
don't have principles.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Basically, what I'm talking about the left has brought a
club to or a bludgeon to political discourse. Eventually they're
going to force their opponent to meet them on the
same level. And unfortunately that process is starting. So I
don't agree with it, but also it's karmic and I

(01:59:55):
can't stop it. Mm hmmm, Like, this is the level
of political discourse you've asked for, and you are going
to get it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
I've asked.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
Leftists are people who spouse this stuff, who seem to
use it to enact their political aims. I'm like, okay,
so there is no compromise except that people agree with you,
so eventually this will come down to violence. Is that
what you want? And of course they came in han

(02:00:26):
and they don't answer this question. But ultimately, I think
that the real differences are people who are willing to
uphold the virtues of an advanced civilization, which include freedom
of speech and autonomy and all of these other things,
and those who seem to be unable to handle it.
Those who came to this world modernity right, and the

(02:00:51):
civil society and they still see the world in terms
of violence and force, and they just can't handle it.
They can't handle being civilized, so they have to burn
everything and bludge in everything and destroy everything that makes
them feel uncertain that they aren't in control. And that

(02:01:13):
really it comes down to that, right anyway. That's why
I say they don't have any virtues of principles except
a desire to control others. And that's behavior, like you
can see it in their behavior and you don't even
have to appeal to identities. Just that's their behavior. That
is the behavior that they're engaging in. And unfortunately they

(02:01:34):
are going to force the discourse to their level. They're
going to force it to their level because you cannot
respond to a bludge into the head with oh well,
I uh you know, uh that that was a fallacy
like that, that was you know, begging the argument that

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was that was unsup, that was unsubsted, unsubsport support did
argument that you just gave, you know, like how you
can't All you can eventually do is respond in kind,
And conservatives are now responding in kind. Okay, Well, when

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you're done, when the left is done setting the level
of discourse and the conservatives have to respond to it.
When that we all play this out, can we get
back to having discussions? Can we pick back to striving?
Can we get back to human expression and creativity when

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when we've had it out? Can we get back to that?
But that's going to mean that the left has to
lose its certainty that they're right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
Yeah. I don't know, and I was wrong. That's all
it takes all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
I don't know and I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
Mm hm all right. Anyway, So no more super chat,
although we did get a few thank you for that
and super Chow super Chow's and rumble rants. So should we? Uh,
reality check says, I can understand to fire a health
co worker who was celebrating Charlie's death. Yeah, that doesn't

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look like it's good for business, that whole that whole
oath you know, do no harm. Uh, that looks like
it's being called in a question. So again, Yeah, I
mean I don't want that, but you know, we're we're
going to live by their standards for a little bit
and see how they like it. So okay, anyway, so
maybe maybe there'll.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Be some smartening up and being like, oh wait, actually,
uh actually freedom of speech is a good thing. And
it's not just government freedom of speech, it's also maybe
the employers shouldn't fire you for having opinions that don't
relate to your work, your ability to do the work
that you do. Stuff like that. You know, although that
teacher that forced kids to watch Charlie Kirk's death, that

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person should.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Be in jail.

Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
Yeah, right, absolutely, Okay, all right, So I think I
think we've covered this sufficiently.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Yeah, it's fine, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
I think I think we've put in a you know,
a shift of work with these issues. Do you wanna well,
we'll call it an evening.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Last thing I'll say. So,
what does gamer gain have to do with this? Well,
I'm glad you asked. Apparently there is a Steam community
just like the cabrutus d what was it called? Uh,
sweet baby ink detected and then dee I detected. Now
there is a Charlie's tweets detected. So the gamers are

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rising up again. Anyway, I thought it was funny. I'm
going to join it and I do the same.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
I'm going to say this, firing people for celebrating a
murder seems a lot more justified than the firing that
that the other side has been engaging in. I'll say
that for.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Ten year old tweets are voting the wrong way, not.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
Masking black metal lyrics being black metal lyrics like that
that has been watching that has been astounding. And the
fact is that it's far more justified to fire these
people for their opinion for their absolutely repulsive behavior towards

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the death of a man who did nothing to them
than all of the other ship that I've seen. So yes,
it is sort of meeting them at their level, but
it also seems a little more justified at the same time. Okay,
all right, I actually got some message like Janice Fumingo

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wanted to join us.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
Oh yeah, she has some some family health issues that
she's dealing with, right yeah, just like Karen.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
And but she said I sent her the pictures and
she had a little message, so I thought I would
read it out. Pictures look great. Thank you for these.
I'm sure I couldn't attend remotely. My admiration for the
Honey Badgers is deep. I don't know how you manage
to address current issues and such insight and knowledge. You
and Brian and Hannah are truly remarkable. Awe, I just
thought that. Yeah, thank you, Janie. That's very sweet of you,

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and uh, I really appreciate those words. I thought I
thought we could use we could all use a pick up,
pick me up after.

Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
I am encouraged. Anyways, Yes, I know, despite all these tragedies,
I think that it's like shaking. It's shake, it's red
pilling a lot of people. Yes, that much for sure.
So yes, sorry, but remember when I said, you know,
there must be more suffering before people wake up. I
think that we're getting there. We're getting there for some

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we're not there yet, but we're getting Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
Yeah, Janis did a lot to help support the convention
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Ye go watching every day. Yes, yeah, Studio Bule, I
think it is all right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:13):
So I think you okay, feed the Badger dot com
slash just the tip if you want to send us
a message anytime after the show is over. Francis Maximus
Gay is the new m R. There are a lot
of gay and bisexual MRIs. Actually people don't know that

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random factoid. But anyway, feed the Badger dot com slash
just the tip if you want to send us a message.
Feed the Badger dot com slash support if you want
to support the show. I'll just check really quick to
see if anybody put has put some support in.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:07:54):
There is some. There's there's Remember when we did already
Claire like weeks and weeks ago, still waiting on that.
You know who you are anyway, did the Badger dot
com slash support for that? And back to you, Brian?

Speaker 5 (02:08:12):
Done?

Speaker 1 (02:08:12):
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