Women Gooning, men to blame| Red Chill Cinema

It's not pron, it's a critique of late stage capitalism! Why do women blame men for things they hate about themselves?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Day. All right, Uh, we are finally live and Alson
is not at our computer.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, I'm back, I'm back, Okay, Sorry for the wiggliness.
I've had to use a completely different camera, which is
my wiggly cam.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, it's the one attach the laptop, which I guess
is on like a barstool or something that's it's like
it's on a table that's on a giant spring.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, exactly. So it's gonna be a little bit nauseating
sea sickness inducing. But I'll try not to wiggle too
much so that it doesn't jiggle too much the camera.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I mean. Oh so anyway, so anyway, hello, everybody, welcome
to the show Redchill Cinema. It's not porn. It's a
critique of late stage capitalism or late stage streaming. Late Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, yeah, I think that what happened is the camera
software that I use on my phone, it they just stopped.
They just discontinued it without any notice, and so we
can't get the phone to work. I probably eventually I'll
figure out how to do it, but right now we're

(01:52):
sort of stuck with this and the wiggliness of it.
But since we can't do anything, about it. We're talking
once again about Morning Glory milking farm. Shoe on Head
did a video about it, and we'll discuss that, but
we'll also discussed the late stage capitalist critique of this.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
This apparently, this gooner book is actually a lot more
intellectual than you think. It's actually a really smart story
about late stage capitalism.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
As if complaining about something is smart. Okay, but I said,
as if complaining about something just makes something smart. You know,
it just makes you smart if you.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Can complain, if you call it a critique instead of
just complaining.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right, So this wasn't
just degenerousy guys, This was women pointing out the degeneracy
of the society that men made.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So when you point your finger at this degeneracy, know
that it is pointing back at you and you should
feel ashamed. So the fact that women are slicking to this,
you should feel ashamed. My dudes, you should feel the shame.
And this isn't darvo. This isn't like classical classic deny

(03:17):
and reverse victim and offender. No, no, this is genuine
women gooning women most affected men. You should feel ashamed,
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those are the things to can consitter, and let's get
on this topic in this topic. Let's milk this topic.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
What's not so this is we're going to start with
Shoe on Heads video.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Then yeah, sure, let's cover that.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I watched them both, but I don't have any time codes,
so I'm gonna jump ahead. So okay, so we're introducing
the topic. Shoe on Head is discovering that there is
there are women who are perverts, and they have been
allowed to be perverts, unabated, uncriticized, in fact, probably propped

(05:44):
up for a long time. And now she's noticing that
it's it's got there. There are some problems with it
with the community.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Bigger problems, but I think she covers that as well.
We actually talked about all of this in a previous episode,
so I guess we're just revisiting it.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't know, like, where do you
have like a specific bit. I'll jump past her whole
ground news thing, which is.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Not my thing at all, so okay, and to jymps
past that and keep going.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, we'll just go like right here, I think.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Very interesting place.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
And any book fans out there know how it has
absolutely destroyed the hobby of literature and just flooded it
with absolute slop.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's not a hobby though, to be fair, I'm not
I'm this is like I'm being a nitpicky person. But
literature cultural things are not just hobbies like books in
film and television. They're important. They're not just things you
do for fun, you know.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
So, But anyway, spicy you see, books on TikTok are
not rated by how well they are written or how
good the characters are. No, they are rated by the spice.
And what does spice mean?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Porn?

Speaker 4 (07:03):
It means spice level is very important to book talkers.
How much spice does a book have? What are the
spiciest books they've ever read? How spicy is the book
they're currently reading? Spice spicy, spicy? The spiciest book going
viral on book talk lately is none other than Morning
Glory Milking Farm by C. M.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Nscosta.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yep, can wait for the movie to come out. Oho,
oh hey, fifty Shades of Gray. They made a whole trilogy. Yeah,
they're saying.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Fifty Shades of Gray featured at least a human, Like,
what are they going to do with it?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
But I mean at one point in time, at one
point in time, fifty Shades of Gray was considered like
peak spicy, and the fact that they made a movie
out of three movies, three movies out of it, and
it was the best selling book right like, women were
eating it up and it was literally I like fanfic.

(08:01):
So first you had a low bar of entry. You're
doing fan fiction of Twilight, which is trash and it's
just full of smut, and there were at least three
books and they were global bestsellers among women. And then
those three books, which are fanfic, well, their film fanfic

(08:22):
interpretations of smut, what like smut interpretations of you know,
bad young adult books or romance novels. They get made
into you know, massive films, which are I don't I
didn't I never saw them. I assume their borderline pornographic
probably so so now yeah, I why not I could

(08:44):
see it? Why not because we've normalized fifty shades of gray,
So that's become normal. That's that's really tame. Now it's
vanilla thing, Like what it's vanilla? Yeah, it's vanilla now
like it wasn't when it came out it was like
really like it was spicy, it was like edgy. It's
vanilla now, like fifty shades of gray as vanilla. So

(09:07):
like what is going when when when this becomes vanilla
then like as it will. Have you noticed that there's
like an evolution of this stuff. What's going to be
considered edgy at that point being.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Being sexually violated by a singularity in space.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't think we can imagine it yet.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, it'll have to be some kind of.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, the beast for the billion backs, Okay, okay, anyway, So.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, Violet is a typical down on her luck millennial
mid twenties, over educated and drowning in debt. Oh my god,
she's stuff like me, on the verge of moving into
her parents' basement when a lifeline appears in the form
of a very unconventional job.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
In the neighboring Cambric creek.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
She has no choice but to grab it with both hands.
Morning Glory Farm offers full time hours, full benefits, and
generous pay, with no experience needed. There's only one catch.
The clientele is grade A certified prime beef.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh god, Okay, I don't know if you want to
say anything about that, but.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, not yet, I will.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I have said not yet with the manly, meaty endowments
to Okay.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Morning Glory Milking Farm is out get profound critique of
late stage capitalism.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Now I have something to say. First of all, I'm
not let's not Have you noticed have you noticed that
this is like, yeah, that's a different video. We'll go
through it as well. Have you noticed that these talking points,
they they come up, they emerge whenever women want to

(11:05):
make excuses for their venal and atavistic behavior.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Excuses excuses.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
All right, this is what do you mean we've okay,
I've watched this video. Yet she's genuine, I mean woman, Yeah,
she is genuine this Yes, I.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Know, I know. I mean I thought it was a poe.
I had to watch it and really try to know
she's serious. She believes this. Yeah, this is a critique
of late stage capitalism. This book, and you.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Can't judge it now, guys, because it is a critique
of late stage capitalism.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
M h. It's okay for me to flick the being
to this because actually I'm I'm doing it as a
as a member of the proletariat.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm doing it as an exercise of defiance against
bourgeois the patriarchy. Patriarchy zgois patriarchy, the bourgeois patriarchy. So
not only is this gooning, it's gooning with a point,

(12:20):
and that point should make you ben feel ashamed of
yourselves because you have constructed a system which you are
to blame for of meritocracy, although sometimes a lot of
nepotism happens, and we are in the end stages of it.
So in other words, we've constructed a meritocracy, and the
meritocracy has dis deteriorated into governments voting themselves more money

(12:47):
and nepotism and also funding for ridiculously irrational crap that
has nothing to do with making money from an audience
and everything to do with just justifying getting more money,
which is have you ever watched Yes Prime Minister or
Yes Minister. Yeah, people should watch that because it is

(13:08):
a primer on how governments justify themselves and justify their
own spending. There's one one episode where the minister who
was trying to reign in government spending for and failing constantly.
This is what he was. He was trying to make
government more transparent and trying to be trying to be

(13:34):
responsible with the funds that government spends. So he's trying
to he's, he's, he's this is his mandate, that's what
he's trying to do. He's at every turn completely roadblocked
by the chief of staff. So basically, what we would
call the deep the deep state, the the gigantic hive

(13:56):
of bureaucrats upon which are elected officials merely is they're
merely a skin that is stretched to hide how little
actual control we have over this every step step of
the way, his attempts to reduce government spending are stymied
by this bureaucrat. And at one point he uncovers the

(14:16):
fact that there is a hospital that has operated for
eighteen months without seeing a single patient, so they've had
full operation costs going to the hospital not seeing any patients.
And he's like, this is egregious waste of money. But
of course, the bureaucrat manages to pull levers and shock
and jive and do all kinds of shit, and in
the end he has to sign off on continuing this

(14:39):
government waste because somehow it's justified because it employs government employees.
No doctors, just a bunch of government bureaucrats running around
the hive doing studies on how important it is to
treat patients without actually treating them. And so it's it's
like it is a the case study in how the

(15:02):
government justifies itself and getting back into late stage capitalism.
Our late stage capitalism is the government having eaten a
good portion of the economy to justify itself, and then
also having inserted itself and made winners and losers of
corporations instead of subjecting them to market forces. And yeah,

(15:22):
and sure some personal nepotism among very rich people, sure,
fair enough, But this is late stage capitalism. It is
when the meritocracy is dying, right, got ladies. It's when
the meritocracy is laboring under a fat berg constructed by
government interference. And I would also argue the fact that

(15:45):
the government controls the currency, so it does things like
it inflates it so that because the government runs on debt,
it's always inflating stuff because that means it's debt burden
is less, but we have to eat that cost. I
wonder if women are starting to notice this, like they're
starting to feel the pinch to the point where they're like, oh, wait,
maybe I shouldn't constantly vote for more government spending because

(16:06):
that's inflationary. And the other thing the government does this
is one thing that's really pissing me off right now,
is because there are people that I know who are
affected by it. Is the government will inflate everything and
then it will take capital gains. So if you put
your money in an asset and that asset actually performs
well instead of losing money, well, you don't get to

(16:28):
claim any loss of money the government. When you sell
that asset, the government will take capital gains without considering
all the inflation that the government is responsible for. Government
is theft. The more I get it to tax law,
the more illegitimate the government becomes. And then women like

(16:49):
this call it late stage capitalism. It is not late
stage capitalism. It is late stage government graft. And then
you can include corporations in that because they have become
recipients of it. Okay, I apologize for my anarcho capitalist rent.

(17:11):
We started with that, but this is ridiculous, and now
we're using it to justify gooning women's cooning Like it
has to be a political act.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
You can't just you can't just in your microphone.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Freaking cow horns. No, you have to make it a
political act.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, if I had to assume, I would say that
the woman in this video is a communist, which means
she's a hammer looking for a nail that she can
blame on capitalism. So you know, governments and corporations, which
are clearly not capitalists in any way. Yes, I include

(17:53):
corporations in that because they are subsidized and protected by
the government, which makes them fascist institute by their very nature.
And I don't mean in the in the woke way
where everything is fascist. I mean in the literal sense. Yeah,
they just call it capitalism, which is ridiculous. It's not capitalism.
But anyway, I got a chat, Huh, what is I mean?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Capitalism itself is a word that they just freaking made up.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, they made up the word capitalism to criticize property rights.
So it's just property guys. You own something. Guess what,
You're a capitalist. So I got a super chat from
Arman for twenty bucks, and he says, hello, Brian and Allison.
Good to catch a live from you guys again. I've
been trying to catch up on some of your other
videos you've posted recently. I had a surgery recently, so

(18:43):
I've been away for a bit. Well, I hope you're recovering. Okay,
our man, and thank you for the super chat, and
thank you so much for joining us on the show.
All right, do doodoo. So anyway, let's let's jump ahead
a little bit to pass that video.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
So I read the book myself, and I'm not gonna lie.
The Nineteenth Amendment needs to be abolished.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So welcome to the dark Side Show.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I know you're joking, but a part of you wants
it to be true. Hurt your feelings. Okay, all right,
jump ahead to hear I think.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
The scene of his sack.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
So I'm reading this and the whole time I'm thinking, like, okay,
he probably has like a human head, right, he probably
like looks something like this, like you know, just a
dude with like horns. Then I see the official artwork
that's a cow bro is a cow.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Bro is a straight up cow.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
In a few those arenaurs, there was a minotaur. Do
you know that the the minotaur? There was just one
in Greek mythology, and I think it was Carnivor like
at eight people in the Labyrinth, which is a little weird.
Somehow women have sexualized it a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
But anyway, I'm like moving things around, sorry guys, and
it will be like, oh, hells cut.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Clopped, my hooves will tear up your sheets, and it's like,
I'm sorry, he's what.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
At one point she describes kissing him, and.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I swear to god, it was more disgusting than anything
else described in this book. She's like describing how big
and wide his mouth is and how big and like
slimy his tongue is.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
She's like describing the ship, and you're just like, that's
a cow.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
I mean we are five point five on the barb on.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
The Barbo scale. Yeah, human, I don't know what the
Barbo scale is. Monster spectrum so human human pro shifter
like were wolves, like works orcs and ogres, non humanoid creatures.

(21:04):
Humanoid creature is that creatures are non humans.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You We're not. We haven't gotten to what the fuck
is that there?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
No, we're definitely just not in this book.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Fifty of existential Horror.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I think that I think there is definitely like, what
the fuck is that porn for women out there? For sure?
For sure?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. It just it just hasn't hit
Barnes and Nobles or your public or your kindergarten reading
rot rotation. Yeah, you sigh, it is pretty man. The
thing is the problem is we can't this just creeps
everywhere because we can't say, uh no, no.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
This is This is how you know, we're in two
different realms when it comes to the stuff that women consuming,
stuff that men consume. So you were just talking about
this video where the woman takes this book which is
just goon material for women and tries to validate its
significance by saying it's a sharp critique, a biting critique

(22:16):
of late stage capitalism a woman, by the by the way,
short version of the plot from what I remember, a
woman who is struggling to find work has to take
another job to pay off her debt, and she basically
goes to a farm where a bunch of buff minotaurs
get they get how do I put it? They get,

(22:41):
they get hand jobs, I think, or more hand jobs
and up no no, no, no, no, no, out of
their sacks. Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Incidentally, the milking machine is very lovingly described, to the
point where the writers group and I were wondering if
this was some kind of artist, like who has milking
machine fetish? Yeah, because it was just very elaborate, and
I don't think it's a hand job. I think it's

(23:13):
they just like the the minotaur is suspended on like
a massage table with you know, a spot for parts
to come through. The milking machine is applied right then
they then there was this this great deal of stress
that they stressed this quite a bit that the the

(23:35):
milk maids needed to make sure the capture everything by
getting the nozzle at the right point in time. And
so no, they're a whole hand jobs, it's all. It's
all men. Am I having trouble?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, you're like cutting in and out a little bit. Oh,
let me just okay, Well what I'm.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Saying today, you know what it is, we've had We've
had a a swinter storm like our first the year. Yeah,
and probably everything is getting blown out, so we're probably
dealing with micro.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Are you guys, sure that it's because like she's coming
out a little bit for me if I'm going I
can hear you mostly, but a little bit you're cutting out.
But what I was going to say is, could you
imagine a man this is how you know, we're not
on the same plane of existence in terms of like
how we view each other's let's say, degenerate interests or

(24:34):
at least like interests that we wouldn't then generally want
to share with the world. This woman in this other
video is able to make a YouTube video about porn
for women and make the case that it's actually something
academic at the end of the day, and also recommend

(24:54):
it to her audience, which might, by the way, include
underage viewers right, and use it as as used the
fact that it criticizes late stage capitalism by you know,
and talking about the plot in detail, could you imagine
a man make watching a porn of another man that essentially,

(25:16):
like you know, is attacked by I don't know, like
a harem of succuby that are planning to kill them,
but he's so awesome in bed that they're all converted
and they fall in love with him, and he ends
up like taking care of the whole harem of succubi
with all and they all have different you know, kinks
and stuff, because that's like the way that that usually goes.
And then that guy somebody watched all of that and

(25:37):
gooned to it and then made a YouTube video saying
how this is actually a you know, like a I
don't know, like an exercise in like polygyny anarcho capitalism,
like some somehow made it work right and that, and
he put it on YouTube, and we're all just supposed
to be like, yeah, that's cool, right, Like this is

(25:59):
how you know that what we understand male porn for
men to be and what we understand porn for women
to be we treat completely different. So we say that,
you know, like everything that is wrong with men has
to do with their porn addiction, whatever it is that's

(26:20):
going on with them, whether you know, they're they're not
getting married, they're not whatever. But there's no equivalent of
that on the female side. And then when we look
at the politics and like the way the values of
men and women are changing have shifted, especially women's, no
one is making a connection. And by the way, she
does talk about this too in this video where she's

(26:43):
basically asked the question why are women into this monster porn?
And there's a whole it's Reddit, But that doesn't mean
it doesn't have anything value to share at least like
looking into the psyche of a of a female redditor
that is into this stuff, and it kind of like, well,
it is what you think it is, so just putting
it out there.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, and this stuff is available Barnes and Noble, It's
available in Walmart, It's available in your public library. This
is available. It is available to children apparently if they
want to go into the public library and read it.
I'm not sure where it's placed in the public library.

(27:24):
Hopefully it's placed in an adult section, you know, and
it is. It is there. It has no merit other
than it is intended to get its audience off. So
it is on porn and it's available everywhere. And it
speaks to what both Brian and I are saying, like

(27:45):
we don't view women's sexuality in the same way men do.
We view men's because you would you imagine the audacity
of a man to say that this is this is
breaking the guynocracy, It is breaking the monopoly on sexual
validation of the guynocracy or some crap you imagine that.

(28:06):
I mean, I think everybody would laugh at him, even
red pillars.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
That would just be absurd. It make it to some
just oh am I breaking in breaking death.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
No, just goon.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Don't make it into some political statement and do it
on yourself. Don't don't put it into the public eye.
It's like we have really bad boundaries when it comes
to women's sexuality and the expectation that they keep it somewhere.
Oh good grief.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
See I can't hear her, but I can see her
audio thing moving around. Let's see if she comes back.
I got a super chat from uh Zarangs for ten dollars,
Thank you, Zarangs, and he says, I think it's good
to mention I've come across three separate articles related to
three individual women who married their dogs. Then we have
the twitch thoughts and their dogs behaving weirdly. Dude, I

(29:09):
don't want to go down that rabbit hole. But yeah,
that's a thing. And I think there is a little
bit of justification for their interests in these books, and
it may have some like I think that this woman
who wrote this book actually French kiss to cow so
that they could like write about it. And that's what. Look,

(29:33):
I'm just saying I could see it or maybe a
horse like whatever was, whatever was close, you know. Albatross
gives us five dollars and says the minotaur was a
single entity Greek myth where a princess falls in love
with a white bull and well, you know what happens
in Greek myths. Yeah, yeah, I know, there was only
one one Titar, just like there was only one Medusa.
But for some reason we've we've well because of D

(29:55):
and D let's be honest, we conceived it as like
a type of monster instead. Yeah, the minotaur is just
like a single like Pegasus. I think there's just one
of those as well. But anyway, thank you for that.
Alphon you back up. She stepped away, all right, Hopefully
that's not the camp. I can't tell if the camera's frozen.
Oh no, it's not.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
You're muted too.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I'm just I'm having a hell of the time. I
think it is because we're just dealing with they're dealing
with late or early like we're basically dealing with the
beginning of winter here. Yeah, which means that we got
a lot of ice and snow last night, plus a
lot of wind, which usually results in some blackouts, so

(30:38):
that's probably what we're dealing with. I'm sorry, guys. Also
sorry for the wiggly camp.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Red Kayaks says, stuck you by our men, Actually no,
sucky by our women.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
By our men ins suckuby and incuby.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I was a dungeon master for a long time. I
know what a suckuby an incuby is. Okay, but anyway,
so anyway, let's let's keep going m hm scale here.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
This is dangerous territory, folks.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
She also.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
She the cows asked, by the way, if you want
an uncensored version of this video, and all my.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
This is this is she's she's yeah, look at her
Patreon right yeah, well, you know, become a Patreon to
uh to to shoot if you're interested in that. You
could also subscribe to us.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yes we uh we actually we're already not that censored, honest.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah we don't. We don't really, uh we don't go
for that, which is probably why we're we're deep de
boosted in the algorithm, in part also because feminists tell
YouTube to de boost us, and I have seen evidence
of that, and also we're probably we well maybe we're
not still on a Department of Homeland Security list.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Who knows, maybe maybe, but but like I think that
they're like the FBI are are on discord, so there
could be some FEDS in our discord. But as long
as we're not, no doubt, Yeah, as long as we're
not doing anything that like you know that they would. No,
this is not published like Surry shit, I hope like
that's not because they're they're kind of their radars are

(32:16):
are they're on furries are on the radar right now,
they're looking for them. Okay, so say just saying.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
This was not published independently, I think it might have been,
but now it is professionally published.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Also, there's another farm, the Milk Farm.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, the Milk Farm is is. It's available, and
it's basically published professionally or if you can call it professionally,
it's published. It's not independent anymore, if it ever was.
It is now professionally published, and it is available everywhere
where fine books are sold. Because we can't tell women.
This is what I was talking about before everything went

(32:53):
to crap. Uh, we can't tell women. No, we're not
allowed to tell noomen No, we're not allowed to say no,
your sexuality doesn't blow here. No, get your tits back
in in your in your shirt. Nobody needs to see that, right. No,
you you don't get to show your hoots to the
police during some sort of Black Lives Matter. No, No,
you get your get your body back into clothing, your

(33:16):
you're streaking and your flashing children. And that is actually
a sexual crime. We we we have a real big
problem with saying no to women's sexuality in our society,
and this is a part of it. And like the
degeneracy of this, I think shoe on head touches on
this later. The degeneracy of this actually goes even beyond
it being in appropriate places, Like if you're gonna do this,

(33:39):
it should be paper bag. Fair, right, you should be
putting it in a paper bag, doing your business in
shame and secret. And it should not be available in public. Right.
This is not This is like having an outlet for
porn hub anywhere where men can just be like, oh yeah,
I like that. Can you imagine that? Like, just just

(33:59):
have war movies just in the regular just at Walmart.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
On YouTube right now, you just search.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
For it on you put it in Walmart, like you
just have it right there, yeah, walking past, Oh okay,
all right, just have it there. And then men you know,
picking it up, watching it in public when they're on subway,
you know, and discussing it as a political statement.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, and saying no. Actually, this is a commentary on
the the stocracy.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, this is a commentary on the gynocracy that I am.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Natalist commentary. I'm learning how to start families, and you
start families by a banging, so uh.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
This is this is a this is my is a
commentary on or I'm reclaiming my sexual freedom from the gynocracy,
you know, like that kind of crap. No, that would
never happen because we sell we know how to say
no to me. Let's be honest, we don't know how
to say no to women. We don't know how to
say no. This is not appropriate. Put it in the

(35:03):
paper bag, go home, do it by yourself in shame
and feel the shame.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I think the thing is too is that women are
not they're different from men, and how they talk about
this stuff. Because well, I'm gonna play more. I think
it's coming up right here.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
So it's dinner, not a down payment for your time.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
But I'm in a position to comfortably spoil someone.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Oh oh yeah, spoiling you.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
End of story, I.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Said, Okay, I highlighted that paragraph for myself.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
So these women are making videos talking about look, maybe this,
maybe there is a male equipment that exists. But I
have never personally, and I have male friends back home
in Chicago, my male friends and my female friends. I
have never sat around, like, you know, having drinks or

(36:04):
coffee and talking about the porn I watch. I've never
done it. I don't get it. Like it's like, but
women will do that. They will. They will, you know,
they'll I don't know, they'll get together and knit or
whatever it is women do when they get together, play bridge,
I don't know, and they will talk about the porn
like that's why they have book clubs. Like like I

(36:25):
knew a friend of mine whose wife was reading Fifty
Shades of Gray, and he was like, you know, all
for it, Like oh yeah, like she's you know, he
was reading it too, I guess, And she would like
get together with her friends and they were in a
book club. They would talk about the book and I'm like,
that book can't be that deep. But you know, I
guess it was to them, like I cause it's you know,

(36:47):
it's it's the story of the what is it the
kind of man that these women really like they have everything,
but they need a woman to make them feel whole.
Isn't that what the fifty Shades of Gray? Like Christian
Gray is like this broken baby bird, but he's got
he's got everything, like super rich big dick, you know,

(37:08):
like everything.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
From what I remember reading part of it that she
is orbited by a whole bunch of guys that are
pretty much identical to him, except they don't have his money.
So it's it's it's just that like this not deep
at all. It's like this guy is about as much
of an asshole as every other guy in this story,
but he's got money, so it's it's no deeper than that.

(37:31):
And I don't know what to say about this, this
feminine feminine, feminist, feminine urge to conflate your what you
what you what you schleck to to intellectual pursuits. Mm hm,
like what like there's nothing intellectual about this. This is

(37:55):
such incredible level of cod It's almost like they can't
handle being an animal. They just have to they have
to put a veneer of intellectualism over it, and there's
nothing intellectual about it.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, is this not the endpoint of liberation, like the
like the philosophical endpoint of liberation. Well, it's not there yet.
There's probably more, but it is on that path. That's
why the women what's more important is not necessarily what
they enjoy, but that you don't judge it, which is

(38:27):
why they put it in your face because they want
to see if you're going to judge them for it,
because they want to live a completely judgment free life.
And that's not possible because despite other people's like sort
of blind either indifference or support for it, when those

(38:47):
women find themselves alone with their thoughts, they're going to
be feeling like, I don't know, insufficient or shame or something.
And so there's a constant pursuit of liberation from judgment
but that but they're not really escaping it because they're conscious.
They're conscious is you know, pecking at them if the

(39:09):
people around them are not holding them some kind of
standard of I know, decency. So I think this is
like what we're experiencing, it's like for them because men
are not as liberated in this way as women are
I think that men have are made to Yes, they're more,
they're more and near to shame. How they respond to

(39:30):
it that differs, you know, from individual to individual. But
we don't have the same sort of unbridled you know,
liberate men at all costs because we need men to
keep things going so that there there's just enough shame
or guilt put on men to keep them, you know,
like behaving a certain way, which is why everything feels

(39:51):
so like lopsided right like where we have like it's
not patriarchy, but it's not complete. It's not egalitarianism either.
It's not a complete equality because it always comes down
to how do women benefit? And that's basically the model
we use, which is why men have what none of

(40:14):
the authority but all of the responsibility, and women have
none of the responsibility but all the authority because we
don't have like a working model. It's like this, not
that the I don't think the egalitarian model would work anyway,
but but yeah, we don't even have that because women
are always gonna want to be preferentially treated, and we
don't see them in any way other than on the

(40:39):
path to liberation, constantly moving towards more liberation basically.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, And what's interesting about all of this is that,
if you think about it, this is patriarchy narrative allows
them to regard their own self destruction or the destruction
of others as liberation, as acts of defiance, as acts
of rebellious defiance, see what I'm saying. Like, and it

(41:06):
makes them feel more. It makes them feel more capable
of bucking the trend, being rebellious, being able to move
outside of others, like leaving the herd. It makes them

(41:28):
feel that way, and it makes them feel intelligent when
they're neither. They're actually moving with the herd and they
are being really stupid while they do it like that,
But it makes allows them to cast them indulging in
all of their lowest basis instincts as rebellion as intelligent

(41:49):
rebellion when it's basically just stupid indulgence.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yet have a really high AQUE to appreciate the Milking
Farm book.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Really high IQ guys, some serious high IQ.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, like you to get into this to this get
this isn't your standard goon material. This is for women.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
It has nothing to do with Yeah, this has nothing
to do with the fact that these these minotaurs are
seven foot uh, could tear a car apart with their
bare hands, have endowments the size of Schwarzenegger's forearm, and
make lots of money and our benevolent doms. It has

(42:37):
nothing to do with that, and everything to do with
a deep intellectual substance that you could you guys, could
never understand. You could never understand how this is an
act of ingenious defiance against the patriarchy. Yes, okay, And

(42:59):
it's like just it's it's this way of just feeling
I guess better about yourself and you're right there. It's
there's something pecking at them, and I think that's the
drive to actually become a human being, which requires some
kind of external standard to hold yourself to, and that
packs it them and they spend their entire life trying

(43:22):
to silence it. Through all of this nonsense. You could
just you could just you just learn the language of
building a sense of self based on the consequences of
your actions. Ladies, then you could know yourself in a
completely new way. It might not be as fun, just

(43:44):
like not skipping leg day is not as fun as
eating a cream pie, but in the end of the day,
you appreciate yourself more for having done it. Okay, that's
some get to the next part.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I thought of it, But what did other people think
of it? What are the reviews on this book? This
book has a four point one on Amazon with twenty
one thousand ratings and a three point six on Goodreads
with nearly sixty thousand ratings. Let's just read some random
ones here. Hear me out, hear me out. A milking
good time, sweet and creamy. The spice is spicing. I

(44:21):
was very leery of starting this because I thought it
was just going to be porn. The plot is pretty good, but.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
The plot. She read it for the plot, guys, plot please?

Speaker 4 (44:35):
This is like the New I read Playboy for the
articles like sure you.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Do No, Actually, Playboy actually had good articles and the
the photo shoots and Playboy are extremely.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Tame, yes at this point.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, like they're not. They're like ridiculously shamed. They're I
mean tame, uh tame, Yeah, Vanilla ridiculously tame. Compared to this,
they're basically like artistic nudes, I mean almost right. So yeah,
it's not even it's not even close to that.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
This book could a Victorian Child five stars. I'll never
look at a joke of milk the same. I think
I'm lactose intolerant now, so that happened, our eyes will
never see the gates of heaven.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
One star. Not a helpful guide.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
This book failed to teach me how to milk a cow,
and now my family has no food for the winter.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Accidentally ordered probably got a lot of protein though.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Hmmm, here's I don't know if she gets into No,
actually I didn't think she does. Yeah, these are pretty fun.
This is funny, all right. I know we're bringing the
heavy here and the deep analysis, but this is.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I get into some of the other books that I'm
gonna jump.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Ahead, Yeah, jump ahead, gonna be picking up Animal Farm now,
like where's the horse?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Some of you people always certain streamer and apology.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Because this book has way too many five stars.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Some of you are lying.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
So after buying this book, Amazon has given me a
few interesting recommendations.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Would you like to see them?

Speaker 4 (46:10):
I accidentally summoned a demon boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
You know. This is the thing too, is that because
of like AI. Now, and I'm not saying this is
written by AI, but I've noticed a lot of people
are writing books and using AI to do cover art
and to well help write, if not outright write the books.
And they're all really bad because I think it's a

(46:37):
lot of people who used to write on Tumblr and
they want they think they're writers, so they go and
they start writing fiction, and it's almost all this wasn't
slash isn't slash fiction. This like wasn't slash fiction the
precursor of this stuff, but it was like taking like
pop culture characters and OC's and put it together. I

(46:57):
never read that. I'm just saying, isn't that like kind
of like the precursor, the ancestor of this stuff for women?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Maybe it was. I don't know if it was ever
meant to become like this. Like I said, if if
we had proper boundaries, it never would have become this.
It would have just been you know, because there's also
stuff that like male fans create Rule thirty, like they

(47:28):
create all kinds of drawn, stuffy yeah, like related to
characters as well, but it doesn't end up being published
as some kind of serious fiction or published like this,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
It's it's all absolute.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
So it's not just the existence of slash or the
existence of fan fiction, erotic fan fiction it's the fact
that we just can't draw appropriate boundaries around women's sexuality.
It's probably also the reason why millennial women are raping
at unbelievable rates, and their attitudes towards male victims have

(48:05):
gotten worse since like a generation ago. Like I bring
this up a lot, but that's another symptom of us
not being able to draw appropriate boundaries around women's sexuality,
and the problem with our society not making it acceptable
to say no to women. We give these narratives that
justify women putting their sexuality everywhere, and if we shame them,

(48:26):
that's wrong. We're wrong for doing that. So if we
shame women for having morning glory, milking farm out everywhere,
just slapping it on the table, we're wrong because we
can't shame women's sexuality. It's patriarchal or something right, and
that leeches into you can't say no to women in

(48:46):
other circumstances like that's the problem with our it's getting worse.
It's getting worse. Women are believing that no is more
and more of a patriarchal construct, which means it's not
just this right, it's not just the presence of this
where it doesn't belong, you know, getting its tendrils into

(49:07):
places where it just doesn't belong and taking over entire
genres and mediums. This is the other thing like women's
gooning is it's like it gets everywhere, it goes everywhere,
it ends up in really inappropriate places. Like I noticed
that conservatives are now picking up on all the crap

(49:28):
that's in children's cartoons. Now, what do you think is
pushing that it's women's gooning?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, yeah, it comes out of feminism, so y, and.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
It comes out of our.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Feminism was sexual like probably since the beginning on some level,
because people like like Mary Shelley would go to orgies
over at Lord Byron's place, and so there was likely
some of that carried over from back then, even if
it was like reserved for the elites that had the
ability and the liberty and the freedom to travel and

(50:01):
like go to orchie parties. But yeah, I mean think
that's where it comes from anyway. Richard Bierre gave us
a super Chow for five and he says, so if
there is to be a movie version of Morning Glory
Milking Farm, the ideal would be for it to be
a musical produced and directed by mel Brooks. Three what
Allison had said about that episode of Yes Minister where
the hospital didn't have any doctors or nurses hired, but

(50:24):
had the staffed office processing paperwork to hire the medical staff.
There has been some statements from the UK where so
e doctors are talking about striking because they might be
asked to see patients. Three. Coming soon to an adult
novelty toy store near you, expect to see the line
of bovine pen styled females dex toys, almost a throwback

(50:45):
to an episode of Sex in the City where Miranda
introduces the group to the toy known as the Rabbit.
Well again, like, not coming soon. There already are dragon dildos.
They exist, They've been around for years. So a bull
or a horse or something like that. I'm sure that
that's already out there. So yeah, no, not coming soon.
It's been here. It's been here for a while. And

(51:08):
uh yeah, I mean they probably have all kinds of gadgets.
Let's be real. So but thank you Richard. Okay, So, anyway,
USA Today best selling author aged I accidentally summoned a demon.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Boyfriend that time I got drunken.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
That time I got drunk and Save the Demon Kimberly
Lemming Mead Mishaps book one.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
And you notice that all of these women are.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Like black blow mid Yeah, not attractive, but like black
women too at least are pink hair.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Check gentling the Beast.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Gentling the beast, sweet monsters coveted by the.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Orc cookcakes for my Orc enemy.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Oh wait, what I gotta see that.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
The beast cupcakes.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
For cupcakes for my Orc enemy. Is that a man
because that that that face looks feminine, like a feminine orc.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Well, it's the bun man, it's the man. It's the
it's the man bun that's doing it there.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, yeah, these are like the this is what D
and d orcs are. Now. I don't know if you
guys know this. They they own cafes and stuff, so
they don't they don't pillage and rape anymore. They don't
burn villages. The Uh yeah, that's where Halfworks came from,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yeah, but you knew you were going in for it then.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, generally it wasn't considered erotic. It was it was
a product of tragedy, a half orc. But uh, they
didn't really go into specifics, but you pretty much figured that,
you know, that's what halfworks were a product of. But interestingly,
when I ran a D and D game for Lindsey,

(53:05):
my wife, Now when we were together, well before we
got married, but we were, like, we were playing D
and D game with my friends. She made a half orc,
a female one, and her mother was the rapist. So
she actually flipped the script on it and said that
her mother was the orc that raped a human.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
That probably would make a lot more sense if you
think about it.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
It could. I mean I didn't go either way, but like, yeah,
the size difference, yeah for sure. Well but a male
org would be bigger than a human too, But anyway,
but yeah, but we just thought it would be interesting.
So that's what we work with.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Okay. Anyway, anyway, getting away.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
From orc rape for a moment, Enemy Maine of my existence.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
That's terrible. It's a lion man.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Look at the size creatures.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Encoding book one.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
What look at the size difference?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, of course that's insane. Yep. The gargoyle and the spinster.
What's a spinster.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And the spinster?

Speaker 4 (54:16):
The widow and the orcs hoarded by the dragon. There's
something about dragons getting it on with gargoyles gotten by
the gator mate it to the mountain bear. Oh so
this is why they chose the bear.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Mm hmmm. Of course, do you ever think any different.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
It's the Manager.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Moth Manager. It's a bird, it's a plane, no weight,
It's true love, the Mothman.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Wolves and whipped cream.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
The wolf in my tavern pounded by produce.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Fairy, a veggie lovetail. Oh my goodness, what are they?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Are? These?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
The books the nazis burned.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
My husband only reads finance and sci fi books, and
so I think it's about time that I introduce him
to some real literature. So the first book that I
would like to introduce you to is called Morning Glory
Milking Farm. And it's not It's not a normal milking farm.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Like with cow's.

Speaker 7 (55:22):
What it is is its big bulky minotaurs and it's
a special type of milking.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
See honey, she's his stepsister and she got stuck in
the washing machine.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Uh okay, filed the divorce papers now right. But okay,
So do you want to get to what I thought
was the most interesting thing, which is like, why let
me see if I can get to it?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Oh? Yes, I actually I think I brought that up
when we covered it with the Writer's Retreat, which was
a patron thing. So if you're interested in a deeper
dive into Morning Glory Milking Farm, you can also go
to Feed the Badger dot com slash subscribe and get
access to that which it was interesting. We actually we

(56:17):
had Mike. You were there, We had Mike do the puppeteering.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
He was not there for the puppeteering part, but I
was there.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, yeah, so he sees. So Mike did the puppet
he did in the narration and via puppet. So it
was pretty pretty hilarious, a little disturbing the jokes themselves exactly,
all right, all right.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
So let's let's yeah, let's listen to this.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Part popular with women in particular, Like you rarely see
the opposite, and when you do, it's just like a
girl with cat ears and fangs or like a ten
foot tall dommy mommy vampire with giant teeth. Meanwhile, women
are like, I want to.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Say, I just ran into her today, my extreme this
this vampire lady here to demit demit lady, dimittresk I
think anyway? Anyway's the video game thing?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Okay, moving on.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Meanwhile, women are like, I want to the pollution monster
from fern Gully. So people on Reddit asked this very question.
Let us see the responses. Why do you guys like
monster romances? Asking for a friend? Several reasons. One, human
men are quite often terrible. Romance books with human men
are already partly fantasy, but monsters just takes the fantasy

(57:36):
bit further. Two, it's sort of human nature to imagine
relationships with paranormal beings and creatures. We've been doing it
in literature and art for centuries. It's just gotten a
lot more graphic nowl three unique body form, slush parts,
and so many different kinds of skin.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Okay, yeah, that's this. This is actually in the book.
It starts with a derogation, like a denigration of men
and how human men are not not worthy and they're
not sufficient and they're awful, and then you go into
the monster porn for women, and uh so you talked

(58:18):
about how equivalent would be a man writing I don't know,
being a harem full of succubi and then talking about
how he's reclaiming the means of reproduction for men from
the genarchy genarchy, and well, it's worse than that, because

(58:40):
it would also the story would also have to start
about how, I don't know, uh, three D girls are gross,
that everything every aspect of a female's body is gross,
and that women are horrible beings, horrible people. Therefore he
deserves a succuby, a harem of succuby, because women are

(59:01):
just not worth his time. You'd have to start with
that and then go into the political implications and all
the justification and the cope and all of this intellectualizing
your gooning material. And uh, you have to have a
you have to have a high IQ to appreciate minotaur
meat and all of his other crap. But you have
to start with denigrating human women, denigrating them as partners.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Well, they don't go there because the male fantasy is
essentially like a girl who is nice to him, like
even if she remember the wheelchair anime with the woman
in the wheel the girl on the wheelchair, and like
it was like everywhere and like the you know, the
human women online were like, oh, you want to rape
disabled people. It's like, no, we're not interested in rape,

(59:48):
unlike you guys. They want they wanted something wholesome. They
were drawn to it because it was wholesome, and these
women online could not compute it. They they couldn't compute it.
So it it isn't even like I made the suckyby thing.
I was exaggerating for a point because I'm trying to
find something that's even vaguely similar to what these women

(01:00:09):
are doing with their fiction. But I think in most cases,
you know, I don't even think that men want a
harem because it's like a lot to manage. I think
they just want a woman to take care of. In
most cases, that's probably enough as it is, right, Yeah, yeah,
someone is going to be nice to him. Like. That's
like it's the it's not even the bare minimum. It's

(01:00:31):
like below that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It's like that one meme that was done by that
that author or that artist, and the male fantasy was
taking care of yeah, maybe taking care of a harem,
but treating all of them nice, and then the female
fantasy was being raped by a demon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
And it's not that there is a kernel of truth
to that. And yet women say that men are the
horrible ones. Maybe the problem is that men aren't horrible enough.
Maybe the problem is that you get bored by guys.
What they actually want, which is probably kids and a
loving wife. That's their big fantasy, right. Maybe they have

(01:01:16):
a little bit more hardcore stuff that they goon too,
that you know, they keep in a paper bag. But
for the most part, apparently according to surveys, it's a
loving relationship and having kids and maybe that's just too
boring for the average woman or whatever it is that
these women are seeking through their sexuality. Probably somebody to

(01:01:39):
say no to them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, okay, well yeah, you know Hoeronymous Bosh the artist
he made in paintings that some of these women probably
would get into.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
But anyway, m Gary mean a terrifying creature, is sweet
to her kind, takes care of her, protects her, works
hard to be just, etc.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Maximal escapism, minimal.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Association to real life apples, the patriarchy, massage and oppression
of women exce.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Okay, so here it is. You see what I talk about,
how feminism destroys relationships between men and women. If conservatives
are wondering where money morning, goring, milking farm, and all
of the other distorted, disturbing shit that they find in
kids cartoons, that I mean, they're gonna blame it on LGBT.

(01:02:27):
No it's women. There's also sissification as a female fetish
as well. This is women. It's why all these some
of these trans girls are actually seem to be more
Munchausens by proxy done by their mother forcing them into
the role, because it's a fetish for women. Sessification is

(01:02:50):
a fetish for women. Forcing men to be look like women,
forcing boys to look like women or behave like women
is a long standing fetes for women. So you can
blame LGBTQ, but it starts with women. It all starts
with women. This is one hundred percent women. You can't
deny it. And this is one hundred percent the result.

(01:03:13):
Well maybe not one hundred percent. It's also you know,
apparently having sex with minotaurs is something that even the
ancients recognized about women. But you know, a good portion
of it is encouraged by this bullshit narrative that men
oppress women. This is nons like, she's basically saying minimal
stage is in mac minimal association to all of the

(01:03:37):
bullshit that I believe about men that isn't actually substantiated, right,
This is just this is just her ingesting the things
that feminists have told her about men. This is this
is just her regurgitating the things that she's been told
about men because of feminist conjecture about reality, which is false.
Now she may use this to justify why she's interested

(01:04:01):
in these things. And maybe she would have been interested
in these things because women are deeply degenerate perverts and
have always been. But this is what she uses to justify.
This is what she uses to turn you into the
villain when you say, this doesn't belong in kids cartoons,
this doesn't belong in public libraries, this doesn't belong in

(01:04:22):
Barnes or noble. This is what she's using to force
to inflict her sexuality on everyone. And that sexuality, incidentally,
also includes sissification of boys and men. And that is
the liberal woman's infliction of her sexuality on everyone that
nobody can say no to her, because that is an

(01:04:42):
act of patriarchal oppression and it is the worst thing
you can ever do to women, and even conservatives, many conservatives,
buy into that narrative. There is no there's no sanity
in that narrative. There's none, no sanity within that context.
There's no sanity believing that lie. It results in the

(01:05:06):
unraveling of everything that lie results in the unraveling of
everything and the justification of degeneracy like this, and again,
if they just had it, if this is paperbag fair,
and you don't do your business and in shame and secret,
that's fine, so be it. Right, Yep, this isn't This
is now publicly displayed, proudly displayed. It is rebellion. It

(01:05:30):
is a woman's prerogative. It is her rebellion against the
evil forces which conservatives themselves buy into for the most part. Right,
it's everywhere and there. Like I said, there is no
sanity and there is no future within this narrative that
men oppress women. There is nothing, There is nothing but

(01:05:53):
waste and the end of times, the end of days.
Right that the two roads here, guys two roads. One
continuing to believe that men oppress women, and you get
the end of economic prosperity, you get the rise of

(01:06:13):
tribalism and the destruction of a civil society. We get
all of this shit, or we stop and then maybe
we get to go with Mars, and then maybe we
get to go to Alpha Centauri, and then maybe we
get to be a starfaring species. So you got your two,
You got your two choices here, like human race, we

(01:06:36):
continue on the path of feminism. We continue on the
path of destroying the central relationship that humanity is based on,
Human progress is based on, Human peace is based on
everything worth having is based on. We destroy that our
perception of that relationship, and we inherit the wages of

(01:06:57):
that sin. Or we stop and we do a good,
hard course correct. We get rid of all of this
feminist influence over academia, over schools, over government, over policy makers.
We get rid of that, and we become better, better people,

(01:07:21):
people who understand ourselves better. And maybe we have a
shot at the stars or some dignity as a species.
Choose because it's one or the other. You gotta make
your choice, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
All right, she had oppression of women, etcetera, etcetera, because
the monsters are less dangerous than dating actual men. As
a fat woman of color, modern contemporary and even fantasy
romances are hard to click to you because they are
almost always about thin white women and just too realistic.
And romance in real life is not always for fat

(01:08:01):
women slash women of color in monster alien romance, though
my size doesn't matter and it's easier made into that
headspace and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I'm like, seriously, I'm pretty sure you could probably find
a fat man to have romance with, but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
They don't want the fat man. And see those covers
that like, guys, if you do you understand that, well,
let me hear the rest of.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
These first take of the men on earth and looking
for some variety non humans haven't betrayed and hurt me,
so they feel like a safe haven, if that makes sense. Plus,
the unusual monsters have big fun shapeds. I love some
bizarre pen unique genitalia.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
So okay, let's put this in perspective because I want
you guys to see how sad this is. Okay, these are,
by their own admission fat, probably like under like less
than average attractiveness. When men that are reading romanticy books
and when asked why they they say that regular men

(01:09:09):
are not up to snuff. So these women are below
average and they're judging like real flesh and blood men
and measuring their worth against fantasy men that have been
made up who are all like, you know, seven foot
eight foot tall, you know, eight pound cocks heartbeast like

(01:09:30):
all muscle dominating like will could destroy anyone but chooses
to protect them, which, by the way, is a meeting
strategy that women go for. If they can't go for
high status men through their ability to earn money or
require resources, they go through men who are willing to
and able to commit violence against other people to get resources.

(01:09:51):
So it's like the drug dealer, gangbanger guy, or it's
like the business guy, right, But as long as they're
able to do that, that's what the woman is drawn to,
which is why in like urban communities, let's put it
that way, the guys, the pimps and criminals and drug
dealers and gang bangers that are willing to do violence
get all the women. And the men who are just

(01:10:13):
working like, uh, you know, a minimum wage job that
are making a decent living, they get nothing, even if
they're like working really hard because they're not measuring up
to that, right, And so these like monstrous men, these
dragon men, these werewolves, these minotaurs, whatever they are, the
equivalent of that for these women and these women they

(01:10:35):
won't even want Chad. They want Gorgoth, the half champion
of the tribe, like they want a dude that doesn't exist.
That's they like the gigachads of today, give them the ick.
That's how high the standards are for these women now, right, what, well, how.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Could they be anything but you keep keep them? Remember
your anecdote, How can it be anything but when human
men are subject to this massive advertising campaign to minimize
their value and destroy it, Like, how can you get anywhere?
But all men are not worthy? All men are not

(01:11:19):
worthy of human women. Somehow the men that evolved alongside
human women just aren't worthy of them. And that is
not actually the stupidest thing you've ever heard, Like literally,
what at fifty million years a five hundred million years
of evolution and the human men are just not worthy

(01:11:40):
of human women after all of this evolution. They're not
worthy of you, ladies, They're not worthy of you. That's
absolutely flippin' absurd. That's ridiculous on its face. And the
end result of that narrative of men oppressed women, that
is the end of men are just not worthy of us.

(01:12:02):
They're just not worthy of us. So we have to
we have to dream. It's no longer Chad or super Chad.
It has to be it has to be the cow,
it has to be the minotaur, it has to be
the werewolf. It has to be something that is masculine
but not human. That's what this is, masculine but not human,

(01:12:22):
because men are not worthy of women, because men oppress women,
and men are horrible to women. But it's all a
lie that we have been telling ourselves for a hundred years.
It's all a lie that we've been telling ourselves. It's
a complete bullshit, guys. If it wasn't bullshit, feminist framework
would have some kind of predictive quality or some kind

(01:12:45):
of predictive value, and it has validity. It has none.
It has inverse predictive validity. All right, at this point
in time, this is a failed conjecture about reality. It
is wrong, it is incorrect. It is a lie. And
this is what we believe when it comes to something

(01:13:06):
so fundamental to everything that we do, the relationship between
men and women. Okay, and go back to you said
there was a chick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Once, yeah, her daddy, Yeah, on the Call Her Daddy
podcast recently. I forget her name, but the wife of
Steph Curry. Steph Curry is a like, you know, up
like a superstar American professional basketball player, like you know,

(01:13:36):
professional athlete, over six feet tall, super rich, you know,
got like probably has I don't know. He plays for
the Golden State Warriors of the National Basketball of the NBA.
Okay point guard, really rich, really famous, high status, like
peak status, Like I don't think there's very few people
up there. And she was on the Call Her Daddy

(01:13:58):
podcast talking to you know, the Masade Agent or whatever,
the CIA plant that runs it, and was basically telling
her that she doesn't want to have kids and she
didn't really want to get married. She's married and she
has kids, but she's telling this woman that she didn't
really want those things. And what I'm saying is Steph

(01:14:19):
Curry is like there, like that's one in a million,
that guy, and there is a woman married to him
that's like, eh, I don't know, I don't know. I
feel I don't feel free. She doesn't feel free. And
she was talking about that on the podcast, and I
was thinking, that's like the highest you can get as
a woman and you're still taking it for granted. And

(01:14:43):
there are men watching that. There are men looking at that,
and they're like, okay, Like women are not happy. No
matter what we have, nothing helps, nothing does it. And
I think, so like this is the other end of
the spectrum. First of you have the women at the
bottom of the bottom of the totem pole that are
reading Romanticy and they're still expecting their dudes to be like,
you know, eight hundred pound half men, half gorilla, half

(01:15:05):
reptile like chimera monsters with giant dicks that are able
to like lay down pipe and dominate them but not
rape them, and also kill on their kill on command
for them if they desire it, and just have all
the power. And they're at the bottom of the They're
at the bottom of the barrel, right, they have no
prospects except they just want sexual freedom all the time.

(01:15:26):
And then you have the women at the very top
that are that are getting like the best men and
they're all unhappy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Mm hmm. What do you fucking And I don't mean you, Brian,
because I know you understand this. What do you fucking expect?
What did you do to yourselves? Humans?

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Men, oppressed women, men oppressed women? What the fuck did
you expect from that? Did you think that you were
going to get heaven? Did you think you were going
to get rainbows, utopia and freaking unicorns from embracing something
so fucking stupid? What did you think humans? What did
you think, goddamn, you need a fucking cosmic bitch slap

(01:16:09):
because this is the stupidest framing of the most essential
relationship for your society. This is sucking a tail pipe
level of stupidity, a level of species levels of stupidity,
just flat out stupidity. How are you going to get

(01:16:32):
to alpha centauri with this bullshit? How are you going
to the answers? You are not.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
All right? All right, let's get back to the video.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I don't know what I was expecting. Honestly, A lot
of women's smud, especially monster smud, is about submission, domination,
forced breeding, non consensual consent. The women are like conquered
and taken and overpowered by these monsters. And I think
many of these women are reading these books containing monsters
and not men because masculinity and dominance in men has

(01:17:06):
been completely demonized in modern system. But the truth is
many women still craving. You see, the monsters in this
have those like dominant.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Masculine true, yeah, I mean that's kind of obvious. Like
the men in their monster books are just the monsters
in their books are substitutes for men, and they're not
able to square the cognitive dissonance, so they just say
stupid shit like, well, real men suck, but these like
b feel barbarian orc men are okay, right for some reason,

(01:17:38):
they don't really want the Orc warlord though. They just
say that right, so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Well, yes, it's okay. It's like I've said in previous episodes,
this is like a tar pit that women get into.
And again, I know I'm calling out conservatives, but they
have the problem with this. They are keep blaming men,
but there's nothing men can do to pull women out
of this tarpit nothing. The only thing they can do

(01:18:08):
is to hold them to standards so that women can
pull themselves out eventually. But it's a self referential like,
it's a self reinforcing tar pit that these women are in, right,
They are reinforcing each other's delusions. And it's a lot
of the reason why these tarpets happen is simply because

(01:18:29):
we don't address issues of toxic competition between women. Women
police each other's reproductive opportunities because they don't want competition
for their own, like actual functional societies recognize this and
deal with it because a lot of the stuff they

(01:18:52):
talk about how men are not good enough or something.
But a lot of this stuff is a result of
the pressure being put on them by their girlfriends. Their
girlfriends don't want to see them succeed because then they
have to deal with toxic levels of envy and jealousy.
So what do they do. They yaslight their friends into
thinking they deserve a freaking space min a tar trillionaire

(01:19:15):
who owns like a galactic center. It's just like, this
is this is what And we don't even have a
language to talk about the toxicity that women inject into
each other's lives and relationships. We're only beginning that to
see how bad it is. And it's social media that's

(01:19:36):
showing us. And then we have all of these people
who are playing who are running interference. We're recognizing the
problems that women are creating for themselves through their toxic
socialization with each other. I don't know. I just wonder
if maybe women were kept the Taliban keeps women apart
for a reason. That was just that was pretty dark.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Okay, all right, I got a super child from fifthy though.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Islam was right about women.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
He gives us twenty five dollars and says, reclaiming our
sexuality from the guyanocracy is that you unironically something we
should consider given what women seem to enjoy reading. Thanks
for the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah yeah, you can have your minotaur point. Men can
have their their wife wu bots.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
All right, So yeah, let's get back to this.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
I guess that women like so much, but they're not
human men. They have all these traits women desire without
the problematic baggage human men bring, without being the men
they hate or have been told to hate. It is
the pultate, guilt free slop. But they don't just want
a wild dominant man. They want to tame a wild

(01:20:52):
dominant man, similar to in a man season r ho
with a nose ring. You can save her from her
daddy issues. You can do it. It definitely won't be
fire and ruin your life. Go for it, Go talk
to her. With many women, there's this desire for like
danger and aggression, but also the desire to tame that
danger and aggression, the desire to be that special woman

(01:21:13):
who can melt his heart.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
You see, my dragon.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Boyfriend could rip me to shreds and kill me instantly,
but he won't because he's nice and he loves me.
But honestly, at the end of the day, just like
the video I made about the anime Girl in a Wheelchair,
where the men were saying, this is the average male fantasy,
and a bunch of women were like, you want to
disabled girl, when in reality it was just a distilled

(01:21:36):
manifestation of the average male fantasy, which is to protect
and provide for a sweet woman and safer This is
like basically the flip of that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
That though, that's a hard flip.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
That's yeah, that's a shoot, that's a that's a hard flip.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
That's a really like you could say it's the flip,
but the flip of a man rescuing a woman who
is nice to him would be a woman being rescued
by a man she's nice, nice to her, not ravaged
by it by like a monster. But you know, even

(01:22:18):
like even getting away from the romancy books, even the
the standard smut involves something similar in terms of tone,
except the men are human. They're like, you know, it's like,
I don't know, like a Southern bell and like there's
like a Native American warrior that's like, you know, that

(01:22:39):
has his way with her. Some strange man. Maybe he's
a little bit foreign, maybe he's of a lower class.
You know something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's there's there is that, and then there's
also the fact that you know, like billionaires are sort
of these kind of strange as as human as you get,
but as like almost fay like from another world perhaps
would be the way to put it, otherworldly like world. Well,
because they're from a very different class.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
From the Oh yeah, or like a different class. Yeah, no,
that's what I was saying. It's like this, it's like
it's like a fetish for the foreign, for the for
the outsider, whether it's a monster or it's just like
a guy from a from another world, maybe speaks a
different language, you know, something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Okay, so gu Tarzan, shall we go to the next
video and just do yeah, segments of that. I think
that she I don't know, I don't agree with this.
I don't think it's a flip because I think that
men want women.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Yeah, men generally don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
They don't want men. Yeah, then you know they get
men don't usually start even the even the monster of
Waifu's like, I don't think they start with women or trash.
It's just a woman plus you know, with little cute
little horns.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, it's a Naga. It's a dragon girl, it's a
cat girl. Whatever like this the original. All right, we're
gonna go to the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Horns there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Oh Luma, Yeah it was a great uh. I used
to love that book. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
This is this is the monster Girl a little bit
different huh than the than the Minotaur.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Well created by a woman, Yeah, Miko Takahashi, the writer
and artist of lum Oh. Yeah, all right, So next
is why Morning Glory Milking Farm is a critique about
late stage capitalism and toxic masculinity. Right, all right, let's

(01:24:44):
get into it, jumping in the first talking point lactation nation,
the political economy of monster fluids. This is not a joke.
This is what she really This is not a post.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
This is this. I mean, she's she's making it slightly funny,
but this is She's also thinks that this is a
genuine critique. So yeah, she believes genuinely.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Yeah about her final conclusion.

Speaker 6 (01:25:11):
But okay, so at first glance, Morning Glorymoking Farm seems
like it has a strange kookie premise. The story is
about a financially desperate human woman who takes a job
manually stimulating anthropomorphic minotaurs for pharmaceutical semen. Great extraction, but

(01:25:32):
when you view it through a critical theoretical lens, and
preferably a pair of latex gloves, it becomes more apparent
that the text is not mere smut, but a sophisticated
allegory exploring the intersection of neoliberal economic structures and the
disintegration of traditional masculine identity.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
What just because yeah, no, I was okay, that was
a flat one Neil librorism and the disintegration of the
masculine identity. The hell do you? You don't even this is
I'm pretty sure this is a lesbian. You don't. You
don't know from what when it comes to the masculine identity, lady, Like,

(01:26:17):
what the hell is that nonsense?

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
How do you know that she's a lesbian?

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
I'm pretty sure from a previous different episode of this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Okay, Okay, now, I mean I'm not I'm trying to
like look for the clues, like on her wall. I
guess the paintings and stuff and the tattoos. Maybe yeah,
I could see it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Yeah, I mean, don't quote me on that. She might
not be. But even so, she's a woman opining about
masculine identity. Nothing has changed about the masculine identity for
the most part. Right, still protecting, still providing, still doing
the jobs that nobody else wants to freaking do because
they're disgusting, dangerous, and uncomfortable. So it hasn't really changed.

(01:27:04):
Still trying to appeal to women, Many of them still do. So, Yeah,
it's just that women don't find that attractive unless it
has uh, you know, with a sixteen inch horse cock attached.
Like it's because you guys are freaks, and you're making

(01:27:26):
it more and more apparent with entire every freaky choice
you make. Why every lasting religion on the planet has
put some serious constraints on you, and in fact, Christianity
was one of the most progressive, shall I say, like, uh,

(01:27:46):
previous paganism, Yeah, they put even more constraints on women
than this. Christianity is almost like, well, you know, we're
gonna put constraints on you, but we're gonna give you respect.
Previous forms of paganism were like no, no, you're not
even human, and you guys are starting to make it

(01:28:10):
seem like we should maybe go back to that, maybe
go back well maybe not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I would I think that well, I don't know, I
will she's saying that this is a product of late
stage neoliberal capitalism. I think that this is a product
of women's liberation and a fall away from God. And
I think that my position is stronger based on the
fact that we know that this is a product of absolute, unquestioning,

(01:28:39):
non judgmental women's sexual liberation, not even men's okay, as
men are not making as far as I know, they're not.
This woman here, By the way, over half a million
subscribers read with Cindy okay, So not a small channel,
at least not to me. I don't know if like
I think, I think a big channel starts at like
one hundred thousand, and maybe that's being a little bit generous, okay,

(01:29:02):
because a lot of men's rights activists have small channels,
and I think a lot of it is to do
with the algorithm, and like our talking points are unpopular,
but like, if you're doing feminist content, you can get
into the millions very easily.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
So everybody everybody understands it because everybody exists within that
lie that men oppress women.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Yeah, so I mean, you guys be the judge is
morning Glory milking Farm downstream of women's liberation and falling
away from God and secular humanism. Or is it a
product of late stage capitalism? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong,
I'm wrong saying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
It's a critique of late stage capitalism. So yeah, but
not sing it's a product of it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
No, but it but it exists because we're in a
late stage capitalist system, according to her. Right, So, like
if we weren't in late stage capitalism, there wouldn't be
a need for the book, because she's not just saying
something theoretical like animal farm. She's saying that it is.
She's framing it in that it is a commentary on

(01:30:08):
the world we live in today. So it's a product
of it, or you know, or at least it's like
it's like a cry for help from a woman living
under late stage capitalism to have to take a job
milking bold minotaurs, you know, with her bare hands. So right,

(01:30:29):
it too. By the way, what gotcha I think? I mean,
I watched, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
So she's saying that this is made necessary by late
stage capitalism, this critique of patriarchy, which is what she
means by late stage capitalism and the destruction of masculinity.
So patriarchal backlash is what they usually mean by that
is made that this critique is made necessary by these
these factors that she's identifying. I get it, I get

(01:30:56):
it right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Yeah, it is a product of that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:59):
But anyway, let's start with our main protagonist, Violet. She
is your typical down on your lug, mid twenties millennial
woman who is educated, unemployed, burden with student debt, and
desperate for a job, any job to make ends meet.
Some of you broke bitches could relate in today's job market.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
And it's going to get worse.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
So she's saying, see, like right there, it's my point.
She's saying that this character's life reflects our life.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
That's superfessionality too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
She she bemoans.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Her inability to buy Starbucks. That's it, like she wants
to be a well.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
The thing is too, is that she's she's in college debt,
and even she kind of like said, oh, you know,
that's just like me. But none of these women have
thought maybe college is stupid, like not like it didn't
even come across. Maybe I got ripped off. Maybe this
isn't the fault of capitalism or some abstraction. I can't
actually pinpoint like the existence of property. Maybe it's not

(01:32:05):
like my government did this to me or whatever. Maybe
it's you didn't do the research, and I look, I would,
I could. I would take the blame myself for not
doing that. You didn't consider that. Maybe college is stupid
and you didn't have to do it. Maybe you just
bought into the line that everyone is supposed to go
and you put yourself in debt and you didn't take

(01:32:25):
your major seriously. So you took like fucking film critical
film media literacy or whatever, or underwater lesbian basket weaving
or you know, interpretive dance or whatever, and you came
out six figures in debt and you're blaming the system.
But you know, on some level you have to be
like I can accept it, Like I went to art

(01:32:45):
school twice and I'm like, that was stupid. I shouldn't
have done it, and I'm done. It's behind me now
in the rearview that happened. I will tell people from
now on, really take it seriously if you're thinking about
going to college, because a last and I think, honestly,
I think that people that go to college are given
a shitty education on purpose, given a shitty degree, they

(01:33:07):
can't use on purpose, so that when they come out
the other side six figures in debt, they've already they
haven't gotten the degree that will get them anything. They
can't get a decent job. And most of these women
are just handed degree anyway, even if they're not trying
that hard, because that most of them don't pursue anything
that actually requires like a significant amount of training. But
one thing they did learn is how to criticize capitalism
in the system for it. So they come out in

(01:33:29):
debt and they're mad at capitalism.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah, they're mad at an abstraction, rather than mad at
the institutions of predatory institutions that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Have led them or themselves for their bad decisions and
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I would actually argue that they can get mad at
government too, because it's government regulation that allows colleges to
create these debts that you can't like. You know that
the bankruptcy laws around call us student loans student debt
is different than bankruptcy around bankruptcy laws around anything else.

(01:34:05):
They can't declare bankruptcy, so there is a lot of
incentive for these colleges to offer these programs that are
useless get these kids into debt, and knowing that they
can't actually go bankrupt on their debt, it's secured, right,
maybe we should allow these students to go bankrupt. That

(01:34:27):
would mean these institutions would really start thinking about the
cost benefit analysis of what they're offering, so that they
make sure that the person that they're giving these loans
to can pay it back, and then we're going to
see a very different college landscape. So she's blaming late

(01:34:48):
stage capitalism. I blame predatory loan practices when it comes
to education that are enabled by the state.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Yeah, well, these people don't They don't understand that. That's
why they use word capitalism because they think that when
the government can be involved in capitalism too, is how
they see it, even though I think those things are
mutually exclusive. So that but yes, I agree, I just
don't think they would. I think they would say, it's
all the system, we got to tear it all down.

(01:35:18):
But of course, you know, they're women, so they're not
actually going to put any skin in the game. They're
just going to have men do it for them because
that's what they do. They're going to appeal to the patriarchy.
To defeat the patriarchy, which is to tear down the
system is Antifa. So you know, there's a bunch of
men simping for women.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Yeah, wanting to get an identity as their savior through
their weird political shenanigans. What I was going to know? Okay,
let's just keep going. Let's do some more right.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
To look forward to. This is how she ends up
applying to become a milking technician at Morning Glory and
Milking Farm. And this is a pharmaceutical company that's part
of an underground industry that helps human men achieve erections
with a little blue pill. But an essential ingredient to
these viagra dupes that we have is the minotaur semen,

(01:36:11):
because minotaurs are much more virale. So as the milking technician,
violent is part of the several employees that are responsible
for milking menotaars in order to collect more like what you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Know, You notice that metaphor. Not only does she describe
men as being subpar partners, being awful people, part of
the patriarchy, She essentially those those comments are repetitions of
what is said in the actual text them. Remember Sho
showed us the comments that help men are patriarchal.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Well, the book, the book, it seems, is saying that
human men are insufficient. Yeah, they all need these pills
which are made by these minotaur superior men, and the
women end up bangings, which probably starts a revolution of
women banging military natars because I think there's going to
be more books in the series. I shit you not,

(01:37:04):
and they're going to have an uprising and they're going
to overthrow and destroy all the human men because the
humans get it up because women always default to attacking
men's sexuality.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Yeah, so they're they're basically saying that men are insufficient
sexually as well. They don't have the sufficient virility that
these women want. And they're also patriarchal and oppressive and
say no to them and their sexual desires or whatever
the hell else. So I mean, this is just like
I wish conservatives would look at this and then ask themselves,

(01:37:35):
how do how do my son? How do I what? What?
What tools have I given my son to actually make
a dent in any of this crap? Because use this
is a gigantic tar pit of women so reinforcing their
own toxic attitudes about relationships and men in a completely

(01:37:58):
delusional space. And it's it's just, and it's it goes
beyond just the degeneracy of their literature. And we we
missed the part where Shoe talks about Stardusk.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Yeah, I mean, but there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Is sexual entitlement that's leading to them to become sexually
violent on the scale never seen before potentially, And there's
also their attitudes towards men's right to say no has
gotten worse. Like this is an ugly this is like
this is almost like a demonic energy that has consumed

(01:38:42):
these women. And the honest to god truth is that
I'm not going to even talk to like the parents
of progressive parents because you're too far gone. You don't
I don't know. I hope your son becomes a femboy
or trans woman, because that's not the only way he's
going to survive his life. But I'm talking to conservatives.

(01:39:02):
If you are counseling, if you're blaming your son for
not being able to find a wife, you are putting
him in the jaws of danger with these people, with
these women, because this needs to be avoided as much
as possible. At this point, it's the only thing I
can counsel is that women like this need to be avoided. Luckily,
they don't seem to want anything to do with human

(01:39:23):
males except to rape them anyway. I'm just saying, like,
it's it's wrong to blame boys and men for not
being able to somehow lead women out of this tarpit.
It's just wrong. Women have got to choose to get
out of it of their own accord, and that's that's

(01:39:49):
something they're going to have to decide. This is this
is this is the rubicon for women. They're going to
have to decide whether or not they want to continue
to live in hell. I mean, do you remember that
What Dreams May Come? It was a movie with Robert
Williams who goes to the afterlife and he has a
vision of hell and it's just these people caught like that,

(01:40:13):
just welded into this gigantic plane and they can barely move,
and they're just they're just wittering to themselves, nonsense, justifying
what they're where they are and what they're doing, like
they're just locked in this salopsistic loop and it's just
a plane of people stuck in the ground going nowhere.

(01:40:35):
That's their life. That's this women, These women's lives right,
and men cannot get them out of it. You get
involved with a woman like that, she's just going to
drag you into it. Women have to make the choice
to get out of it themselves. They have to make
the choice to dig themselves out of the concrete that

(01:40:56):
they're the the the dirt and filth and concrete that
they embedded themselves in, and the tar men cannot save them.
That's that's probably the message that that most destroys the
reach of our channel. If I was here telling men, yeah,

(01:41:17):
I keep trying, I'll give you a ten point a
ten point map to save women from the tar pit,
we probably would have more reach. But I honestly I
don't see how men can save them at this point.
There's too many voices whispering in their ear, like whispering

(01:41:38):
poison in their ear. They've reinforced their own imprisonment too much.
They don't even have a language for freedom anymore. These women, Okay,
all right, that's depressing thought plea.

Speaker 6 (01:41:56):
This whole setup shows that Violet is doing what many
have to before her. She is selling bodily labor in
exchange for a fleeting stability. This goes to show how
financial desperation often overrides social taboos or personal discomfort. Yeah,
you might think that this whole setup is weird, but
I know some of you American bitches would do the
same thing for dental coverage. It actually parallels a lot

(01:42:18):
of the real world gig economy out there, whether that's
right share drivers or only fans creators. Violence work is
both hypers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
So you will undervalue, you will jack off minotaurs for
a dental plan, but you won't engage in a respectful,
monogamous relationship with a man who loves you so that
you can create a family together. Yeah, you are so

(01:42:49):
like these women are so much in hell. Like I said,
they don't even have a language for freedom anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Well, they don't know what it is. They really just
want security. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
Yeah, she becomes hired not because of her humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
But it's also funny that she's doing all this and
she's like looks pretty freaking comfortable, like on a big
ass couch under some blankets. It's warm, she's got electricity,
running water, heat, air conditioning. Most likely, she's got paintings
on her wall. She's able. She's got a laptop. I

(01:43:31):
don't have a laptop. I'm a man, where's my where's
my you know, standard issue patriarchal laptop at where is it?
I mean, it's just crazy that you can have it.
This is the thing, like the bubble these people live in.
It is so secure. They have no idea how good

(01:43:51):
they have it. So they just criticize their conditions all
the time. And that's why they can't be happy. That's
how you know they're actually in hell because they're miserable.
But they have like a life that even people who
are alive to get today in the same country as them,
they would be extremely grateful for. Now. I don't even

(01:44:12):
have to go to like a third world country or something,
or some like you know place that's like in a
constant war, like in South America or Africa or something.
I can just say, like if she's in New York
or if she's in you know, Los Angeles, there are
people in Los Angeles that would like kill to live
like her, and she's still complaining, and she would probably

(01:44:34):
tell them that they should be complaining too while she's
living like this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
Anyway, Yeah, dexterity.

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
Her entry into the specialized extractive services of milking those
milkers mirrors the experience of gig workers who are commodifying
their time and bodies who survive la stage capitalism that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
The commodifying their times. So you exchange your labor or
for money, what else do you want to exchange it for?
You could exchange it for affection and a filial relationship
by being a stay at home mom or just taking
part in the enterprise of family. What else do you

(01:45:15):
want to exchange it for? Not being killed, not being
put in a gulag, like being able to eat like Honestly,
what utopia do you think that late stage capitalism is
preventing you from being part of? Do you think it's
preventing you from being part of a communist utopia? Have
you ever been in one?

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
I actually visited Soviet Russia. It was horrifying, beautiful architecture,
no food, no fucking food. This was supposed to be
an advanced society, more advanced than the third world country. Well,
my family would we would travel because Saudi Arabia would
kick us out once every six months, so we had to.

(01:46:01):
And incidentally, my father was just a geophysicist. He wasn't
He's not a Saudi prince. For the people that think
that that's no. He was a geophysicist. He worked in
an office with a tie and he did programming. Right.
So we would travel the world and one time, I guess,
I don't know why my parents thought that going to

(01:46:23):
the Soviet Union would be interesting. I don't know. I
don't think they were commis. So we went with a
bunch of British commis to the Soviet Union. Okay, there
was no freaking food. They didn't. They gave us soup,
but the soup was like the water that they washed
the potatoes off in, and they called that soup. And

(01:46:47):
I lived on kinder surprise eggs from like gift stores
where they'd actually sell stuff, right. I remember there was
a piece of pork that I ate, and I remember
it distinctly because it was so horrifyingly awful. It is
the worst piece of meat I have ever eaten in
my life. And I have traveled in the Third World,

(01:47:09):
and I remember getting that piece of meat and it
was It tasted like bile. It tasted like sweet and
sour bile. And a ten year old me ran around
the fucking fourier of the fucking Soviet Russia lobby trying
to spit out this piece of meat. Like, I think
I lost ten pounds and I wasn't particularly heavy as

(01:47:33):
a child, right, Okay, my mother lost weight she was pregnant.
Everybody left and we thanked God going back to Britain
for British food. That was what it was like in
Soviet Russia. It was horrifyingly awful, and everybody was miserable.
They couldn't eat, they couldn't buy anything. You know, who

(01:47:57):
got to eat? The good party people? So late you're
talking about dental plants. You're not gonna have a dental
fucking plan. You're not gonna even be able to eat properly.
That'll be for the good party people. I hope you
know how to suck cock, because you're gonna be sucking
a lot of it to get that frickin' uh roast
beef sandwich in Soviet Russia. Good God, Like, this is

(01:48:22):
why I'm like the meritocracy. No, Actually, people should be
incentivized for their labor. We did a lot of work
as the human race to get to the point where
it was pretty much standard everywhere that people deserved something
for their labor. Right that we got. It took us
a while to get here, lady. It took us a

(01:48:44):
while to get to the point where everybody can expect
to get something for their labor, to get something that
they can go and then exchange for food and pillows
and teal lamps and lovely pictures and books like Milking Farm.
It took us a while to get to this point.
And women like this say, well, what if, what if

(01:49:08):
we could have some other medium of exchange. Well, you're
a woman, use your freaking cook coo, yeah, as your
medium of exchange. God already gave you one for the
rest of us. You know, I like money in exchange
for my labor. I think most people do. And if
they really think about it, they realize that other systems

(01:49:31):
not as good. Soviet Russia, why was anybody doing any work? Well,
first of all, they weren't doing much because nobody had anything.
Well why were they doing it? Because otherwise you end
up in the freaking gulag or shot or starving. That's it.
That was their incentive structure. You want to replace actually

(01:49:53):
getting material wealth with that? Are you fucking mental? And
I don't know what is wrong with women. I swear
to God, this is like some kind of thing. This
is a flaw in their psychology. Oh all the billionaires. Okay,
So what you're telling me is that the r system
of incentive structure produces people who are fantastically wealthy. It

(01:50:18):
doesn't produce starvation the whole the more. It doesn't produce
people who are constantly scrabbling and miserable. It doesn't produce
goulags as a necessity to make people work. It produces millionaires.
Somebody just they just get the jackpot. So what stow
your envy? Stow your envy as you sit on your

(01:50:40):
comfortable couch, no doubt, having eaten some lovely avocata toast
and sipped your Starbucks latte, watching reading your book that
would be banned in the Soviet In Soviet Russia, you
think they're gonna have books like this? Are you fucking mental?
You'd probably be dragged out by your paren put in

(01:51:00):
a gulag for this book.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
They were not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
They The funny thing is that they were. They were
not fond of shit like this, right, And if you
had said, oh, this is a critique of late stage communism,
two gulogs for you. Two gulogs. Okay, all right? Oh,

(01:51:26):
I did want to say one last thing Yeah, third
world countries consistently better than Soviet Russia. Right, you just
go into like a mom and pop delicious food. How
is it that supposedly this advanced culture country that we're
all supposed to aspire to, now, because you guys are

(01:51:47):
fucking idiots, how come they couldn't manage to make good food?
And yet you go to a third world country and
at the very least these people who were in poverty
supposed well, they could eat well or reasonably well, better
than better than the middle class in Soviet Russia. Okay,

(01:52:07):
let's keep going all right.

Speaker 6 (01:52:10):
Heroine in a classical sense, but a symbolic representation of
the proletariat who is alienated from both her labor and
her self conception. Just like Marxist factory worker, she is
selling her body.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
System serious Tommy.

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
Glory milking farm. It is the industrialized.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Okay, you know what that means. I understand it. I
understand it. I understand the Tommy gobbel She's alienated from
her labor and her self perception. What does that mean?
That means that she uses her actions to afford a
living for her instead of her vulnerabilities. Right, she should
just have shit handed to her. That would be she

(01:52:52):
should be able to identify with her vulnerabilities as tickets
to get shit rather than her actions in terms of
labor and to earn what she gets. It's the fundamental
like the fundamental contradiction here. This woman does not want
to have to earn things through her actions. That feels

(01:53:12):
foreign to her. Instead, she should be granted things by
virtue of her existence and her subjugation by the culture.
Like you see that, You see that? Do you see
the inherent the violence inherent in the system Brian women
have to Women are subjugated by patriarchy and instead of
having that subjugation be a ticket to get stuff, which
it is, but not enough. They have to work, They

(01:53:35):
have to labor and earn it. Equality never was equality
for women.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Get to the next chapter, not past this. This one
is gigged to Glenn. This one is I think the
thing about toxic masculinity.

Speaker 6 (01:53:53):
As you're staring at his juicy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Balls, the cretic of capitalism, of erotic efficiency. The cow
is the new cog.

Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
There's a very deliberate choice when choosing to center their
romance in this world around menotars. It's not because we're
appealing to the monsterfuckers out there. It's much deeper than that,
because the menotars represent more than erotic fantasy. We often
know them as hulking, stoic, performulatively viro and it's really
interesting how they are essentially caricatures of the late capitalist male.

(01:54:29):
You can see how their exaggerated masculinity with their horns,
their bulk, their libido, even the excess gush of their
semen just pouring out on the floors everywhere. That makes
the technicians have to clean up everything. All of that
shows that it's not liberating but confined.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
You know, did you guys know that that's what minotars
always were? Remember when I said the original myth women
ruined minotars. Can I just say this because when I
was a kid, I loved mythology. I thought it was
really cool. I liked watching those old I actually watched

(01:55:07):
Jason and the Argonauts, the old Ray Harry House when
I talked about a little bit on the show. He
fights a hydra and they fight harpies and there's a
fight with tallow see the golum. You know, And there's
other movies with other Ray Hemrierhauser movies with all these
like mythical beasts in them, and I didn't think of

(01:55:30):
them as sexual creatures at all, Like it didn't enter
my mind even when I was like getting like a teenager.
I thought of them as monsters, completely separate from the erotic.
But for some reason, I don't know if it's modern
women or just women, but they bring the sexuality into
these things and then they act like it was always there,

(01:55:52):
because she's like, oh, you know, this is just what
minatars are, and I'm like, no, they have two headed
axes and they chase to around labyrinths to kill you
and eat you. That's it. I don't even as far
as I know, like at the time, I didn't even
think that they even had genitals, even though they were
men man bulls, but they were monsters, you know, you

(01:56:13):
didn't think of it. And she's actually normalizing it, like,
oh yeah, all of the semen. I'm like, really, that's
not that's not in my monster manual. I didn't read that,
but she did, like this is crazy. I mean it's
not really. I mean, women just sexualize everything, like they don't.
They're way worse than men about that. Yeah, well, I

(01:56:35):
think men they compartmentalize it. Okay, like there's they look
at sexual things in a sexual context, so like when
it when it makes sense, they do it. But I
don't think they're thinking about it, like when they're playing Halo,
you know, or I don't know when like I don't,

(01:56:55):
I don't, I don't know. I think I think women
just are more like I mean, just something we don't
want to admit. But I think it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Well, the thing is that it's it is actually scientific
that women respond more sexually to more different types of stimuli,
but that that has actually been shown. Uh, but I
just want to point out that when you listen to her,
this is just someone's fetish, right, Like that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
You're justifying a fetish though they're trying to intellectualize it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Yeah, but now she's saying that these these cows representment
or these bulls representment. Okay, let's let's let's can we
can we hear the conclusion to this, Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
Conversation that the main character has with her love interest.
When she's asking if other menatars know about this whole
setup of other minutar's coming to the milking farm literally
and figuratively coming. She says I don't know why I
thought this place was unique. So do all minuitars know
about this? He says, Oh, they know all right, most
bulls do. And if they haven't yet, believe me, they're

(01:58:01):
thinking about it. There's no reason not to. Humans have
commodified us, and the financial conversation for a natural bodily
function is a no brainer, especially once there's a mortgage
to think about. Family men forget about it. How us
would they be able to take the kids to blink
Sea Land? May as well get paid for what's going
down the shower train every day. He even says that
they measure their balls. His balls hung fat and full,
impressive regardless of the species, and there was some sort

(01:58:24):
of test that were required to pass. Violett had no
doubt that his would have outshown any they were judged against.
The bigger the testicles, the higher their rate of production.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
So they know somebody's hit there. Okay, the thinly disguised fetish,
These minotaurre men are measuring each other's balls, and this
is this is a representation.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Of well, they get their balls measured in the factory, oh,
by the technicians. So they're not measuring each other. They're
going in and they're being you know, it's like it's
literally like when you see in movies where they're like
buying slaves, like male slaves, and they're looking at their
they're looking at all of them to see what they

(01:59:05):
want them for. It's that it's like buying like sex slaves.
In a way, they're literally chattel guys.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Okay, so what is her conclusion like this, this is
the commodification of male sexuality. No, no, I want to
let's letter continue.

Speaker 6 (01:59:25):
Does she come to notice how traditionally this symbol of
male virility and rage has now been de skilled. He
is no longer a mythic beast, but an over worset client.
His horns have become corporate branding. His libido is now
tracked via performance analytics. Each milking session is a parody
of both intimacy and productivity. These menotaurs are paid not

(01:59:48):
to feel, but to release, So the tragic figures of
the hybrid masculine ideal, quite literally horned, hulking, and emotionally constipated,
have now been reduced to walking and sitting simple of
toxic masculinity. Their pressure to perform, to dominate, and above all,
to produce, but they're also enormous needs are.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Also they are more desirable than human men. They are
the ultimate toxic by her own admission, more desirable than
human men, and the ultimate symbol of toxic masculinity, which
is being exploited by the capitalist system for your bodily fluids. Okay,

(02:00:31):
let's I think this is this is the most relevant
to our interests here.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
Yeah, this is the section, right, this is the section.
The rest of it's like who cares? Yeah, are no.

Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
Longer a source of pride, but of dysfunction, they are not.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
I think there's a reason why she's like covered up
to her waist with her blankets, just saying she's a
little bit self indulgent.

Speaker 6 (02:00:52):
Lovers, but actually livestock in a system that sees their
bodies as resources and their intimacy and vulnerby as a
kink to be monetized. What normally would be a simple
intimate activity that alone minotaur could do in the privacy
of his own home, clogging the shower drain what it's
big fat semen has now become a ritual of clinical ejaculation,

(02:01:15):
which is symbolic of how the masculine archetype has now
been reduced to function, but what makes the loving.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
Wait a second, what the fuck are you talking about?
What do you think the masculine archetype was before? It's
a function like that's that's the nature of masculinity is
they become their function. This is this is different because
this biological function is actually considered valuable, which is actually

(02:01:44):
really interesting to the deeper psychology of all of this.
These men, there are these these minotaurs. Their biology itself
has worth. Yeah, they're they're they The big difference between
them men is yes, they are bigger, but they're pretty
much exactly the way that these women would define men,

(02:02:06):
except they're bigger, and uh, you know, maybe that's a
big thing. You know, like they're they're taller, they're they're stronger,
they're more virile, they're more man. They're they're man, but
more man. But the other thing that they have is
inherent biological worth, have an inherent worth. That's interesting because

(02:02:29):
these women are seeking something outside of actual men. They're
seeking an inherent worth to masculinity, but they aren't allowed
to see it in actual men. Do you see the prison? Now?
Do you see the prison? They want to find this

(02:02:50):
because they can finally justify their desire, but they aren't
allowed to find it in men anymore because of feminism.
It's like gigantic cunt block. That's feminism, and they can't
find it. So they have to find it in this
minotaur morning glory milking farm. The inherent worth of men,

(02:03:11):
a worth that can't be taken away, a worth that
they can feel like they have earned as a woman,
because it's like fear of missing out is what drives them,
and they don't feel it with the average man, but

(02:03:32):
they could feel it with this creature whose masculinity has
inherent worth. Do you see what I'm saying? Like it's
it's the minotaurs have something they don't, something they have
to seek, something they have to be worthy of. And
there's a lot of conversation about how they the spilling
of the seed is like really they get punished for it,

(02:03:55):
and they're they're they're they're really upset when these women
fail to capture everything right, it's like they have to
be they have to be worthy of it, they have
to be worthy of being a receptacle of it, of
this worth, of this biological worth. And it's it's like
this this this thing, actually I think it might have

(02:04:17):
a deep symbolic meaning, just not what this woman thinks
it is. These women who are reading this are seeking
masculinity as having its own inherent worth, which is the
very thing that feminists stripped from masculinity by calling it toxic.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Yeah, And they're also like, this is a fiction written
by a woman who is trying to create what she
thinks of the most as the most I don't know,
like the most absurdly over the top expression of masculinity.
And it's exactly this extremely carnal, primal, physical thing. Like

(02:05:02):
I don't know anything about this character's personality. She doesn't
seem to care. I don't think the minotaurs have anything.
They're just nice to her. Probably the main character, well, they're.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
A bit dominant. There's the guy, the the main minutaur
is sort of as it's dominant.

Speaker 1 (02:05:20):
She basically he is an expression of what she wants
in a man. Yes, but it's like a very like
cartoonishly over the top expression of that. Right, So this
thing that they've made isn't even real because most men
are not that. And if they're, if they're go ahead,

(02:05:42):
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
Because I'm trying to explain what I was getting at.
They're a symbol of the of and if you actually
read it, the amount of effort they put into describing
how valuable the semen is and how absolutely they like it,
they should be completely that the women are just completely

(02:06:05):
terrified of spilling a drop, like every sperm is sacred
kind of thing, and they're completely terrified of losing this value,
this tremendous, profound value. And there's a lot of emphasis
in it on the text. So I'm saying that the
minotaurs are a symbol of men being valued, men having something,

(02:06:28):
a recognition of having something value inherent, and that's what
these women are seeking. And I say that because of
how everything is structured, how the stakes are structured, Like
dropping a millimeter of a millimeter of this semen is
like dropping nuclear fuel rods in any other story, Brian,

(02:06:52):
this is so valuable and they are so much supposed
to feel afraid of wasting this value commodity, and it's
just an inherent part of being a man for or
being male in this story, I'm saying that that's that

(02:07:12):
is what they're idolizing, That is that is the central thing.
Very much it's right in the title. They're idolizing it.
They are in worship to this, this masculine emergence, and
I think that's what they're missing. It's like, you know,

(02:07:35):
you could get that from any dude. You couldn't get
that from your looks match. Lady. Just be nice to it.
Just be nice to your looks match. You'll get as
much as you want whenever you want it, unless you
know he has a physical help, handicap or difficulty, but
you know, just.

Speaker 1 (02:07:53):
Be a minutar bro.

Speaker 2 (02:07:57):
Alternatively, women could just realize that men have this value
inherently and just seek it in their looks match, in
their species based looks match.

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
Yeah, and also that men are more than that, Yes,
a lot more than that. Well, yes, it's all very
earthly and physical and limited. Like there's you know, all
of it has to do with what she wants, not
what he wants. Like she said that, oh he's kind
of dominant, et cetera. But that's what she wants.

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
Yeah, it is what she wants. Yeah, but if you
read it, it's like the value that and yes, it
is very earthy and physical. But let's let's just start there.
Let's let's just see a crack of light in this
guitar pit. It's very earthy and physical, but it's something
out of her hands. It's something she has to give him.

(02:08:49):
It's a value that he has to give to her
and he doesn't have to and she must seek it
in him. That's what I'm getting at. She has to
seek it because she doesn't have it. He has to
serve it because she doesn't have it. She has to
value it because she doesn't have it, and she has

(02:09:10):
to respect it because she doesn't have it. And yes,
it is very earthy, it's very primal, it's very lust base.
But it's a start, like maybe we could start moving
that to you know, other qualities, spiritual qualities, emotional qualities.
But at least at some level, she's saying this is valuable.

(02:09:30):
I don't have it. And the real problem is, for
whatever reason, she can only conceive of these things outside
of her own species. That's the real problem. Okay. So
that's what I'm trying to get at, and I don't
know if I'm conveying it properly.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
Yeah, no, I get it, I do, okay.

Speaker 6 (02:09:49):
Is that he actually is a subversion of patriarchal ideals.
He's ironically less monstrous than a lot of typical human
men in romance novels. He's respectful, he's on our ball,
he's emotionally open. At one point, Violet.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
Has a well, wait a minute, what about what about
actual human men? Do you know any real human men?
Or is it all just the men in your novels?
Isn't this just more feminist referencing feminist ship to make
points about reality.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
Yeah, she's less monstrous than the men who are also
written by women.

Speaker 1 (02:10:19):
Yeah, then then the than the monstrous and other fictions. Yeah,
what about real men? What about those?

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Yeah? That doesn't even Yeah, well, this is what I
say about the tar pit. It's like just self referential,
Like they write about men and then they're like, oh
this is what the way men are. Yeah, and it's like,
how do you break into that? How? How does a
man break into that? How does a man save a
woman from this tar pit?

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:10:49):
I don't know, all right, hardy, I work hard, literally
and figure outs hilly. She's trying not to cry as
she's trying to get the job done, and one of
her clients tells her instructions and explains condescendingly about what
she should try to do, even calling her a sweetheart
in a very negative tone. And it just really sucks
to feel so dehumanized.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Like a man is explaining.

Speaker 1 (02:11:14):
Most affected again, So a man is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Explaining to a woman how to like how to give
him a hand job or or work with this. So
men don't even have the right to understand their own
pleasure better than women.

Speaker 1 (02:11:38):
Now, okay, so let's let's get that hurts.

Speaker 6 (02:11:44):
She sees her next client, which is a menotaur that
she had been attracted to upon her first meeting, named Brook.
Their next meeting, which was a surprise because she didn't
expect to see him again. It's such a refreshing contrast
to the awful experience that she had before because he's
gentle to her. He asks her questions like if she's
in school, do they treat her well? Here, just basically

(02:12:05):
questions about her life, essentially humanizing her more instead of
just another cog in the machine. And so it shows
how as a levittress, he's being patient, honest, and gentle,
and he is a rejection of the cold, emotionally scented
alpha stereotype. What's most intriguing?

Speaker 2 (02:12:22):
What are you fucking talking about? So this is the
big thing. Okay, so men don't don't ask you about
your life. They like I said, this is a tar pit.

Speaker 1 (02:12:39):
Yeah yeah, saying how was your day? Because that never happens.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Yeah, that's not like the first thing that people say
to each other. How do you get like, how does
a man get a woman out of this tar pit?
First of all, he's constantly behind the eight ball in
terms of being a patriarchal oppressor, so every time he
asks for anything in the relationship, she immediately can jump to,

(02:13:09):
oh yourselfish, you're commodifying me, blah blah blah. How do
you have a relationship this one sided? Like how do
you this that? You really gotta gotta analyze the tar
pit that women are in because somehow I don't know

(02:13:31):
who knows, who knows how to get them out of it? Like,
I gotta really think about this. Okay, let's you want
to finish this.

Speaker 6 (02:13:39):
Is there another interested in violence?

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
No one's going to do this section. I think that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:13:43):
When you do that, what he's seeking through this cold,
clinical environment is not relief but relationship. This suggests that
even hyper masculinity beings yearn for intimacy and a society
that often expects them to repress it. But there's an
internal conflicts going on inside Violet as she deals with
her own romantic feelings for her client. But as we

(02:14:05):
see throughout the book, what she learns might be the
solution to dismantling the system.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
All right, so, oh my god, the conclusion, I'm not
gonna watch anymore of that. She's coming to conclusion that
the alpha male, superstoic, emotionless dominant, toxically masculine stereotype is
subverted by a guy who just wants to be tender

(02:14:36):
and closer to a woman. And it took her reading
the Morning Glory Milking Farm book about minotaurs to discover
that men could be human and maybe, like, well, she
doesn't even really discover it because she thinks this is
all coming through the fiction and she's not talking to

(02:14:57):
real life men. Like that not abnormal, that's most men
want that, Like these things are not zero sum either,
Like you need stoicism and reasonable and logical like pathways
for the purposes of being a better caring and compassionate

(02:15:20):
and kind person. Like these things are not diametrically opposed,
and they're always framed this way, like, oh, if you're rational,
that means you're not emotional. No, you can use emotional
impulses that tell you I should do this thing, like
a guide where you should go, but you use the

(02:15:41):
logic so you don't do something stupid to get there.
That's all you know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
Yeah, but anyway, well, there was something I wanted to
add to this. Like she talks about these characters not
being stoic or not being alpha, but the only metric
the one who just didn't care about her just was
con earned about her performance because it's her job. Like
he just didn't care about her internal life. That wasn't

(02:16:06):
him being stoic, It was just him being indifferent. And
now this particular one cares about her internal life. That
has nothing to do with stoicism, and it has nothing
to do with toxic masculinity. Like one just wanted to
get the job done, just wanted her to do the job,
that's it. The other had an interest in her as
a person. That doesn't mean that the second one wasn't

(02:16:29):
also stoic, right, Like just a man having an interest
in your feelings doesn't make him any less stoic than
a man who doesn't have an interest in your feelings, ladies,
His stoic is about his feelings.

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
You see what I'm saying, Brian, Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:16:53):
All right, I'm actually really curious now about tender is
the flesh? Erotic mutuality is class revolt. I think it's
basically saying what you predicted. She was going to say.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
Should I just play a little bit of this then.

Speaker 2 (02:17:05):
Yeah, sure, just a little bit. Let's see if she
gets to an actual point.

Speaker 6 (02:17:11):
The first time she meets Rooke, the love interest, she
is instantly attracted, especially being in social close proximity and intimacy.
For example, in the scene of their first meeting, she says,
please just let me know if I'm using too much pressure,
she called out hesitantly, having her a curiate may say
similar things to clients brand new to the farm, or
not enough pressure. Just let me know. A short grunt

(02:17:33):
was her only response, and she shrugged herself, gripping the
turget length once more. He definitely responded to that, you
weren't imagining it. There was nothing on his chart, she
read from where it was propped on the table before her.
No preferences, no technician notes, nothing more than his initials.
An Asian wade, followed by the eight digit identification number
and barcode matching that of the adhesive label that she
would have fixed his bottle. No noted preference. But as

(02:17:54):
she slipped her finger beneath the loose pucker of skin
once more, the minitary grunted again has brought hitching. When
she's around the flared underside, there's an of these two
different feelings.

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
Go, yeah, there's juggling going on for sure. That may
be uncomfortable. This is on YouTube. Yeah, this is on
YouTube subscribers, This is.

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
On YouTube, no doubt she it's monetized, and we cannot
have a discussion about rape in the context of statistics
and research without getting demonetized. Yeah, it's this freaking ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
So okay, she's going to take that and turn it
into something academic.

Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
Wait, let's hear it going on.

Speaker 6 (02:18:43):
Where you're trying to be professional and responsible, you're literally
diluting each minotaur as clients that only have identification numbers.
No technician knows only basic stats. Despite all that, she
can help but want that big bull dick, and that
is the spark of a revolutionary mindset. Later at home,

(02:19:03):
she flicks the bean of her own Kouchi and imagines
him while doing that. In fact, she imagines him in
all kinds of scenarios that wouldn't be appropriate for the workplace.
And it's not until post Nott clarity.

Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
But this is literally, this is literally women incapable of
simply finding men sexually attractive. This is this is this
is complete and utter sexual constipation right here. You don't
in order to actually enjoy yourself, you don't have to

(02:19:39):
make it public. But this is, this is women who
just can't accept that they find men sexually attractive and
they have to project it onto all this other crap. Literally,
that's their identities are incompatible with their sexual drive. And
so this comes out of it, and it's because feminism.

(02:20:01):
Maybe it's even deeper. Maybe it's because they feel like
male sexuality is degrading to them and is the source
of sin.

Speaker 1 (02:20:10):
Well, there is a bit of an emission of the
UH link between revolutionary Marxism and sexual liberation because that's
what she's commenting on. So the women's lib movement and
Marxism's relationship is stated when she says that she wants
to break that professional relationship and turn it into something

(02:20:34):
personal and liberating. But it's all obviously it's just like
I don't know, like what's the word I want, Like
it's just like a grasp at power, like maybe just
for the self, but like it's it's a will to
power thing.

Speaker 2 (02:20:52):
Yeah, well it is interesting that because you were right
they do do hand jobs. Wow, I didn't get to
that point.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
Yeah, I told you that's what I thought. That's why
it's you.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Know, I just find this bizarre, Like you can't you
know that human men are what you have evolved to
respond to, right, Like this is the other thing, Like
they have these gigantic symbols of virility. Maybe you can

(02:21:27):
stop emasculating human men. So.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
Frederick Ingels wrote a book called or Wrote the Origin
of the Family, Private Property in the State in eighteen
eighty four and argued that sexual oppression is tied to
class oppression, positing that monogamous marriage and patriarchal family structures
emerged to secure private property and control women's labor and reproduction,
serving capitalists interests. From this view, sexual liberation aligns with

(02:21:56):
Marxism by dismantling these structures, bring individuals from bourgeois norms
and reinforcing economic inequality or no that reinforced economic inequality.
Early Soviet policies like legalizing divorce and abortion in the
nineteen twenties reflected this, aiming to disrupt traditional family units
seen as capitalist relics. So there is a relationship between

(02:22:21):
sexual liberation and communism, and that's what she is. So
when they say late stage capitalism, it's like Allison said,
they are also saying patriarchy because those things are the same,
because patriarchy is a form of capital that men have
over women and that needs to be dismantled and redistributed.

(02:22:45):
But because it's more amorphist than like capital, which is
more materialist, there's almost no way to do it without
destroying everything first. So anyway, yeah, like three Eagles in
eighteen hundreds, we.

Speaker 2 (02:22:59):
Have to but what do you replace the incentive structure with, right?
Like that that's the big problem.

Speaker 1 (02:23:06):
Yeah. Herbert Marcusa, also of the Frankfurt School, wrote Euros
and Civilization in nineteen fifty five and argued for a
liberated sexuality as part of a non repressive society, merging
Marxist and Freudian ideas. So there is definitely, like I
think that this woman is probably you know, would if

(02:23:30):
she read those guys, which she may have, she probably
wouldn't disagree. I mean, as a matter of fact, women
hold up half the sky is a maoist is a
maoist mantra.

Speaker 2 (02:23:41):
So yeah, they're pretty inextricable, like and I think it's
because in part communism it doesn't have any recognition of
the importance of the meritocracy. No, it doesn't, it doesn't.
It just doesn't. And meritocracies are something that men make

(02:24:04):
and they're just they're naturally drawn to it, and they're
naturally drawn to upholding the principles necessary for the meritocracy.
I think that's if we were to look at the
whole formula. Men, men submit to God, women submit to
men in the context of meritocracies, and how meritocracies actually

(02:24:28):
benefit all, it's actually men submit to the meritocracy, women
submit to men because men understand the meritocracy or they
have the instincts around maintaining meritocracies and meritocracy support everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
I mean, if you don't like the word God, you
can just say reality because that's like, you know, you can't.
That's the thing about liberation. That's why I bring it
up a lot is that you can only be liberated
from things that are real, that can be liberal, like
that have that won't affect you negatively, like you have
to work within the framework of reality, like the laws

(02:25:04):
of nature. You can call it the laws of nature,
you can call it the laws of God, whatever you
want to call it. But the point is you can't
be liberated from everything because there are things that are
limits on you, because you are a human being with
you know, human limits. So you can't be liberated from gravity,
for example, because you can't, like you know, the reason

(02:25:28):
why liberation only works within the context of what is
real and the reason, oh God, I would, but you
don't have to. You can just call it nature or
the laws of nature if you want.

Speaker 2 (02:25:39):
The reason why I call it the meritocracy. I think
there's there's deeper parts to it, but I don't want
to go into it is because it's tied to men. Yeah,
for sure, likes tied to men. Men understand it implicitly
and they understand its nature on a fundamental level, and
it's it's it's profoundly important for the productivity and the

(02:26:02):
progress of humanity, and you know, and the principles that
uphold it. You know, men understand those principles almost inherently,
and I think that that's what makes everything make sense
and why Christianity does that. And it's not just Christianity,

(02:26:22):
like every single advanced religion that has produced anything related
to an advanced society has the same formulation. Men submit
to that version of the meritocracy and women submit to men.
Why because if women want to, they can destroy the meritocracy.

(02:26:45):
They can turn it into tribal warfare. They can turn
it into intersectional political bullshit that makes the meritocracy bog
down in gridlock. They can turn it into lets you
and him fight they wanted. The thing is like the
trick for Eve wasn't rebelling. It was not rebelling. Women

(02:27:12):
are fully capable of destroying everything, leveling everything that men construct.
We're fully capable of it, like we one hundred percent
can do it at any point, and I think the
last century is evidence of that. The trick is not
to do it. The trick is to understand why you

(02:27:32):
let men get on with it? Do you understand why?
And I think we've we've we've seen examples of this.
Now women take over publishing, it becomes porn women take
over animation, it becomes crap, It becomes dog weird, sexual
grooming of children. Right, women take over immedia, Hollywood, it

(02:27:55):
becomes awful, like women's interests take over everything and it
just turns to crap. It's because women don't understand the meritocracy.
Women can understand it, like they can demonstrate that they
understand it, but a woman who understands it. When women
are seen as agentive, they lose The women are wonderful effect.

(02:28:18):
Women who understand meritocracies don't want the women or wonderful
effect because they understand meritocracies. They understand and they want
to earn things through merit that just be handed things
because they're women. Right, that's the difference. And feminism doesn't

(02:28:41):
just destroy men, it destroys women who understand meritocracies and
don't want to be handed respect for being a women. Okay,
this is really rarefied and abstract, so I will leave
it at that.

Speaker 1 (02:28:56):
Okay, I want to finish this.

Speaker 2 (02:28:57):
I mean it's pretty late.

Speaker 1 (02:28:59):
No, I think, yeah, almost get this.

Speaker 2 (02:29:02):
I think you get it.

Speaker 1 (02:29:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean communism it'll certainly work this time.

Speaker 2 (02:29:09):
It'll work this time. Obviously we got to get kill.

Speaker 1 (02:29:12):
Another ten million people. It's fine, we'll get it. We'll
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:17):
We got to get rid of the meritocracy, guys, we
don't need to worry about what replaces it. Don't don't worry.
Don't trouble your male brains about what's going to replace
the meritocracy. Yeah, don't trouble yourself with examples throughout history
that whenever you get rid of the meritocracy, you have
to go kill people or be killed as men. Let's

(02:29:38):
just's forget that. That's not going to happen this time.
Women got this, even though they don't want to got this.
They don't want to take any responsibility for it at all.
Just hand them all authority, but don't expect them to
take any responsibility for it. All Right, So, as I said,
I'm going to do a bit of appealing to you guys,

(02:30:00):
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(02:31:04):
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