Instituto Race and Equality y C.N.O.A.: Uniendo Fuerzas por la Igualdad

En este episodio detallaremos acerca del programa de pasantías CAPREE, en dónde el Instituto Race and Equality de la mano de la  Conferencia Nacional de Organizaciones Afrocolombianas (C.N.O.A.) se unen con el mismo objetivo el fortalecer y colaborar con actores e iniciativas claves para promover la equidad racial y promover los derechos humanos a través de marcos educativos y de promoción para prevenir la violencia racial, étnica y de género. 


Los invitados en esta ocasión son los y las protagonistas de las pasantías, ellos son María Fernanda Medina (Magdalena), Olfiris Mestra (Valle de Aburrá), Sebastián Puerta (Cartagena y Bolívar: Benkos Biohó), y José Murillo de (Magdalena Centro), quienes pertenecen a las Tonga de la Conferencia Nacional de Organizaciones Afrocolombianas (C.N.O.A.).

Episode Transcript

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On the other side of the world. There is a continent with fifty-
four countries inhabited by the groups Balanda, Cueno, Caraballo, lucumi Arara,
Ashanti and many more villages, warriors, thinkers, farmers, miners, ranchers

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and fishermen that are present today inColombia. If you use the words chevere
yam or chhofarse to speak, youare rescuing the oral tradition of Africania.
If you prefer salsa, vallenato orreggae when you go, you evoke the
rhythms of Africania. If as achild you heard the myths and legends of

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Mother Monte, the Tunda, theMother of water and the crybaby, you
are remembering the stories of Africa.He used a radio rosary in association with
the National Conference of Procologists Organisations orthey present traces of Africanic territories building ves
ran traces of Africa in Colombia byHola. Dear netizens, it' s

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a pleasure to get back in tunethanks for staying connected to a radio rosary
and remember that we' re openinghours. Now we are going to listen
on Tuesdays every fortnight from ten toeleven in the morning here by a Rosario
radio and by spriakety Sartro. Welcometo footprints of Africania, a radio space

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that is realized thanks to the allianceof the Social Projection Directorate of the University,
El Rosario, the National Conference ofAfro- Colombian Organizations NOVA and u
Rosario Radio. From Bogotá, Colombiancapital, we will travel the national territory
to prodescending, black, palenquero androotland, knowing the different ways of being
peace. This is, uh,Africania prints. Few seeing kons. So

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culture. This poor part of mypeace. Special greetings to our secretaries and
operating secretaries of the seventeen tonsas ofthe cnoa in the different departments of the
country, to our director, MarioCastro in the master' s degree of

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control, Nelson Duarte and who readmayo rivas molina, remember also followmenistas Facebook
as greater rivas molina. Fear,Roy deserves whole, sure am bror without
fear of death. Good where plateauvillas, inside psalm wis. Good morning,

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dear Hiberna waves. Today we're going to talk about something called
caprit, but, as we know, what capri is. We want to
welcome you to this point. Experts, awakening young fellows who are with us
today. Station is order of ideas. You have our first guest today we

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' re going to introduce ourselves togold and then we pass the questions they
find very good morning. My nameis Lina Velázquez. I am the project
officer of the racial justice line ofthe International Institute on Race, Equality and
Human Rights and I am the projectofficer who is supporting this urination area in
the articulation with the sénoa for theimplementation of the project that we are doing

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the prepran sea of Achan de Caplot. Nice to be today' s lia.
Thank you very much for the invitationthe first young woman who accompanies us
with a little which. Good morning. My name is Felis Fernández. I
belong to the vices an Afro Bello, Afro- Colombian people resident in the
municipality of Bello and I belong tothe togas and many thanks to cough.

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Space Hello. Good morning, introduceme to you. My name is Maria
Fernanda Medina Carbono. I' m20 years old, I' m from
Ciena Magdalena. I represent TONGA,from this same municipality, Magdalena and I
come from the Social Foundation renewing lives. It is a pleasure for me to

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be and belong in this project thatwill benefit many voice advice hello. Good
morning, everybody, this way,sebastián, gate of the city of Cartagena.
I belong to TONGA Cartagena, Bolívar, Bencopiojo and I am from the
organization NAZOM, an organization in thenorth of the city. Thank you very

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much. Nice to be here goodday. My name is José Muril.
I' m twenty- two.I am a protégé from the municipality of
Porto Yacá and I am part ofthe Afro- Colombian Association. Oyacar n
as a National Conference of Afro-CENOVA Organizations and through the leadership of Black
communities and I am one of theyoung people who make an andzen part of

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the CAPRI program promoted by the Embassyof the United States and CENOVA to strengthen
indigenous and Afro- Colombian voices,both in Colombia and in Bravo. Well,
I' m Father Nifio Puesta Pina, Executive Secretary of the National Conference
of Afro- Colombian Organizations and here, well, how rich to be here

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today talking to Lina de Raissan Nequality, with these young people of different tonsas.
Cnoa And well, let' ssee what we learn today, what
a hibernate parents are going to findin this space today. Well, they
' ve already started to find somethingnew than a word Capri, which is

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a plan of action driven by thetwo countries, the United States and Colombia,
to reduce, I would say,the gaps of racism and inequality that
exist in both countries. What Talina, if she does the context and tells

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us what is this work she has, that comes from Capri, that comes
from rison equality and how she alsoenters to play an important or transversal role
the ENNOA. Thank you Mage forthe question. Okay. In view of
Capric' s plan of action,the Father already mentioned it, it is
true, the main objective of thisdocument and this plan also bilateral, of
exchange of practices, certain recommendations experiencesbetween the two countries, is precisely to

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promote racial equity and racial justice inboth countries, recognizing the spices and characteristics
of both contexts. So, inthat sense, from the International Institute for
Human Rights or to human rights,with all the true work carried out by
CENOVA, with the tonsas and thewhole organizational process that it carries out,
and also that it is a processthat we are advancing with Auits, a
very important recognition of the experiences ofthe process and the Afro- Colombian and

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also indigenous movement in Colombia. Itis precisely from those actions, but also
from the autonomy of the organizations thatthe strategic agendas and links are further promoted
in order to advance the inconclusiveness inracial justice. Just this week we have
had different exchange spaces that we arealready going to talk about. True,
on how we can promote human rightsmethodologies to advance racial equity and racial justice.

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There is a certain desire for communicationcampaigns in national international political impact,
and that, behind that, thework of the seventeen tonsas that XENOA has
continues to be specifically strengthened. Andbecause this is a pioneering group in implementing
that Caprick action plan already the date, since it has this year turns fourteen
began in the two thousand ten.So now this is also a very nice

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experience and important experience as a nationalbackground to continue promoting this important planning that
the Government of Colombia of the UnitedStates has. It is important to mention
that in Brazil we also have thisdocument that would be Japper. It is
certainly the same document, which alsopromotes the same strategic lines and has the
same objective between the Government of Colombiaand Brazil and the United States. Thank

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you very much, Father. Whatis the importance of not being linked to
this capri project and why it doesnot decide to accept this proposal as they
do, what I did not knowwas to call it Capriji. But the
actions we have been carrying out,i e since I believe that all the

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work of cn or of its twenty- two years of existence, because it
consists in the promotion of equity,of both racial and ethnic equity. I
mean, how can we, howcan we see ourselves in this country,

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how can we influence ourselves to buildfull citizenships, to build to make visible,
for example, the human rights situationof people of African descent and,
in this particular case, of theAfro- Colombian, Black, Palenquero and

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Raizal people? So I believe thateverything we' ve been doing in some
way has responded to this action plan. When we saw the lines of the
plane, I said the other day, they resemble the lines that appear in
our development plans. They resemble thelines that we have within our strategic plan

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n and that is why our meetingssay prioritizing Afro youth, prioritizing Afro women,
integrating sectors such as promoting visibility ofthe Afroid people and also promoting or

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visualizing the contributions that we make tobuilding the nation and wishing that one day,
as we reach full citizenship, thatracism and inequality are not a barrier
so that we can enjoy this country. So we already know that everything we

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do for peace is in Capri,in the promotion of AFRO, it is
in Capri, in international relations,it is in all the positive experiences that
we are accumulating and that we areputting to the front and that we are
recognizing them and we are appropriating themare as elements, I would say,

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of this Capri plan, that Ithink has to start to sound, plan
of action against racism, against racialinequality and entnica. Capri is simply his
English sínle. It is the questionthat came before giving way to the without

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the girls and it is what meaningcapri o. Yes, it' s
very important. What the father mentionedis true and is that specifically when we
refer to this document that its acronym, because it is true caprin, but
specifically it is a document that weare asked in priority terms how we can
advance in equity and racial justice.I mean, that' s the acronym
that we have as in the bilateraldocument plan, but its main component that

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I have here is you Search,the full name of this acronym, which
is a certain auria aviatura of thatprocess. But lastly, racial equity between
the two countries and racial justice,which in the acronym of Brazil, as
already mentioned, would be the Japper, the Japper for Brazil, listen to
the Japper Japper for Brazil, already, but because here, in Colombia,

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the Japper has a meaning. Whatdoes that mean? But here now.
But while I ask a few questionsto the young people who are with us
at this work table, I amgoing to tell Agulina to think about what
a young man earned by being inthis space, because why a young man

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should be motivated, because this firstcourt also has a legacy and a strength,
because one participates in some spaces ofFellowship. But if you have nothing
left, for what is the gain, that is, what does one gain,
then it is for you to thinkabout it. As we start talking,
you' re gonna say who's talking first. I' m
not going to tell you how tofirst one first the other. So if

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you' re going to play TingoTingo So Wabison and once and tell us
what that tour was like and whatyou did this first week in Caprin'
s frame. Well, this weekwe' ve been taking a tour of
several institutions. We were looking athow these action plans connect with each other

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and articulate, and how we,from there the internship, articulate the activities
that we are going to carry outin our different communities. Then we were
in the Afro Legal Commission there wewere aware of all the processes that are
being carried out for the populations andfor the ethnic groups. We were also

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in the activity that was made annualreport on the human rights situation, also
knowing how the chapter is going howprogress has been. Well, that'
s like a little rhythm,'cause my teammates are on. We were
also in the office of the UnitedNations High Commissioner. They were also there

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knowing that you were not about howthe action plans they have there also for
the Communities and how they are articulatedwith Capri' s action plan. So,
well, we' ve done alot of tours and they' ve
been training us on how to makethe reports. They' ve been training

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us as very complete of all theprocesses we' re going to start developing
in the Communities. What a passHere, well, very interesting things happened,
which I highlight this week. Welcomewe met places and experiences that were
very significant to us, that willserve to realize new ideas, better experiences.

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Within the framework of this project.We were able to get to know
the centre of the historical memory ofpeace and reconciliation. We were also able
to reach the National Museum of Colombia, the National Chapter, we visited the
Sixth Committee of the House of Representatives, where we also had the opportunity to

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talk about that day, to empowerourselves to make some suggestions, recommendations for
what comes in terms of the newlaws that will allow us to strengthen and
strengthen our processes. And this,then, in one way or another,
allowed us to learn and know alot for the exercise of the activism that
we have been carrying out from ourterritories that and each more we will continue

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to replicate all this and that willserve us to introduce ourselves much more in
our subjects and cultivate our roots.Well, in addition to what my colleagues
have mentioned earlier, I very muchhighlight the assistance to surrender by the Office
' s Commissioner Act, the UNOAtocommissioner in Colombia for Human Rights, because
it is uniform that reflects very muchthe realities of peoples, especially ethnic peoples.

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Yes, it is a report thatshows more than anything else, beyond
the reality of the efforts that mustbe made as a State, as cooperation
organizations, to strengthen and work torespond to the effects that today have mostly
on the ethnic peoples and especially theAfro- descendant people. In addition,
I highlight the visit we had orthe bilateral meeting we had with the Commissioner

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of the Embassy of the United Statesfor Human Rights, where we were very
familiar with photos all the processes thathave been advancing from the educational section of
the social party and from the promotionof the rights of the Colombian people.
What a young man wins by participatingin this space. First I' m
going to comment, as I'd say to my mother. The best

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gift I have for you is education, knowledge. So, these social spaces
where you participate with initiatives, withleaderships, What the young man earns the
most is that exchange of knowledge,of epistemologies, of all those social contexts

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that inhabit Colombia. Cultural differences.And summarizing what he was saying to our
colleagues about the activities being carried outthis morning, since the visit to the
United States is taken out, wherewe were able to know what programs of
social interest the United States has forus Colombians, both at the general and

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ethnic levels. We met about theMartín nuther King programs, CAPRI, empowerment
programs for women and entrepreneurs and aboutthe participation of the training given by the
High Commissioner for Human Rights of ONO, because we highlighted the social realities that

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affect Colombians and all more than allthe ethnic communities of the country, which
in that case are us, theAfro- Colombian blacks and the indigenous comrades,
where in the peripheries in caucan collidedin Nariño we could see how arbitarian
compliations, forced displacement, deaths andinjuries by anti- personnel mines have been

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affected to the majority of members ofour communities. A little bit I'
m going to ask Arina to makeus tell us those other programs that there
are, because of course, you' re young and the older than thirty
- five are the four- year- olds there are for those ladies that

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there are for those gentlemen, whichis what portfolio she' s offering in
the United States for who they areand who are big. It is precisely
we, too, were left withthat doubt. And that' s my
taste, because we always see thatyouth is a very marked age where statutory
law sixteen twenty- two. Hetells us that youth simply starts from the
age of fourteen to twenty- eightand there is no further progress there,

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but what happens to the population oftwenty- nine upwards, how they benefit
from the programs, plans and projectsthat the State and other organizations give us
for strengthening ourselves. And precisely theanswer they gave us there was that let
' s say that the programs theyoffer have no age limit and that they
offered programs for women entrepreneurs and otherprograms that serve all ages. There is

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no age limit on the programs offeredby the embassy. So, that is
very important and, in addition,we also highlight and take for granted the
support for the civil organizations that alsoworked with us. We also talked about
visiting more territories of how they weredoing to do that incidence within the other

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departments that were simply not one ortwo, but that, as far as
possible, they were trying to visitand know all so that we could do
a greater job and, moreover,know ourselves to do impact. And we
also make ourselves available so that youcan go and visit those spaces to which
you have not yet reached the embassy. And there is a super important point,

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regarding what María Fernanda pointed out,true also in the framework of the
plan of Achan of Colombia the UnitedStates for towards and ethnic equity, a
certain plan of action of Capri andit is also important to mention that in
the context of the call also apoint that we had in the mercuses of
requirements is population of up to thirty- five years. Then we also had
not only focused on the polany ofn fourteen twenty- eight years, but

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it was also marked by the call. There was a more open process in
terms of age as well and theone to whom it was directed. And
the idea is also in the upcomingcalls to continue to repeat the same selection
process. Then also tell you thatin the planning framework of Capri not only
marks up to the twenty- eightyears in the internship program that we have
and because it is also related tothe offer that already pointed to María Fernanda

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that also has at the educational level, at the level of entrepreneurships. Then
he also manages those lines and alsoyesterday in that space, to generate a
series of very important recommendations to continueexpanding that offer at the national level and
to follow it decentralizing, which isvery important to have lived time to travel

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the places of the United States oralways come to certain places in specific.
Thank God, I' ve hadthe opportunity to be in different spaces,
but, as I mentioned with colleagues, I think this step has been very
different. It has been very markedto make a space mu very by pin
and in which we have had thepossibility, beyond the soon rigor of the
objectives of the same spaces of whichwe attend. Many times we have had

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the flexibility to get to know thecity, to appropriate the city, to
relate even to different personalities, toweave networks even among the Afro- Colombian
people or between the Puafrican lives thatis present in the city. So I
think that the possibility that we havehad and relate to each other in the

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framework of this welcome week must bevery highlighted. And then here comes the
next question to us. In thecountry we are emerging from conflict, we
are framed in peace. What meantfor you this step through the Centro de
Memoria, Paz y Reconciliación and theMuseo Nacional de Colombia, because the Museum
also has exhibitions, but there aresome very marked parts and as Afro-

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Colombian people and some sexy pofes,but the route. They are changing the
offer they have in terms of curatoriesand so on. But there are things
that one, when passing through certainplaces to one, makes one think of
between what their ancestors lived and others. I' ll tie it in my
hand first. I want to emphasizefirst that it was like sleeping a lot

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of numbers, seeing how close peoplein our brothers and sisters and sisters also
because there we saw also people ofthe population the GBT, Afro Indians and
all kinds of population in which wecan see better affected said. We saw
very tangent realities, significant experiences andsomething that allowed us to observe beyond how

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we think and how we dream ofthis Colombian territory without violence, where the
State really takes and collects all thoserecommendations that were left of that report of
the Commission, of the truth,which was a very well- developed report,
where they made a recognition and oneof the greatest contributions that has been

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left to it in terms of figuresand knowledge to the victim population. It
was also that same document that,today, the State has not given it
that importance. And let us alsosay that these control bodies, as is
the Senate and the House, havetaken us and told us that these recommendations
have impressive ravages to advance this Colombiawounded Colombia possible. As we were told,

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there are still people who are lookingfor that truth, for a truth
that serves to reach that dream peace, to rescue us, to heal us.
And mainly I would say that alsothat day we recommend that the recognitions
are done in life. That daywe saw many boxes, many names,

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many walls with many leaders' badges. But as leaders don' t dignify
now in life, how leaders recognizethat work we' re doing, because
it' s just not being ina space where few people see me and
well, I' m out,it' s okay. But also how
we take that message to the territoriesyou see there is a leader who makes

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efforts that helps, that drives,that he did and that you are resisting
and that he is working, andnot when he silences us, but when
they kill us and violate all ourrights and that they take away our freedoms.
This touched us so much. Ittouched me a lot because I come
from a family and I think thatall Colombians have those wounds still open,
and I think that going through thereis also important the issue of psychological accompaniment,

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because not all people are prepared tosee truths as people in places like
this museum, which, although verynice, also removes experiences and removes many
things for people that violence affected Inthat museum space. There was a part,
because it marked me a lot andI thought it was very important that

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I have highlighted it, which isa space that gives the dialogue. After
doing the whole tour, the opportunityis given for us to dialogue and it
is a space where several different culturesare marked. So they don' t
do as a journey for a singlefocus group, but they give you the

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opportunity to interact with others, toknow their thoughts, to know what they
are thinking about ethnic groups, toknow what they are thinking about all those
recommendations that were left in that report, how they are being carried out if
it seems to us, to knowwhat recommendations we would make to the Museum

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so that they too are as inthat dynamic, to be able to show
that truth yes and not to stayjust as in the subject of wounded Colombia,
but to be able, as mycompanion Maffe said, to recognize also
those actions that are being carried outby different organizations, from different communal groups,

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from different Yes, from all thoseparts, to be able to translate
them also in those places and tobe able, as to support all those
processes. Then I thought it wasvery important that space was given to dialogue
and reflection. Well, I dostay a lot with the space of the
National Museum and I think that alsoresponds a lot to what you consulted Ahorita

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Mayo, and it was that thiscity offers a very wide cultural offer and
that exactly, for example, whenwe made the route of the whole subject
since the arrival of our ancestors,who were enslaved and others marks a lot
because it invites us to recognize that, without a doubt we were there,
invites us to activate that human partthat many times we leave aside and that

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invites us to understand that before wewere many yes, then it was a
very marked visit that maybe suddenly wehad not had the opportunity to realize.
Therefore, a good point that caughtmy attention from the visit to the Centre
for Memories and Reconciliation is the callmade by the Centre to ask us and
to question how we, as acountry, allow war to be seen for

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years in the countryside, in theperipheries, in rural areas, that guerrillas,
paramilitary groups and agents of the Stateviolate the rights of our, our
communities, our indigenous Afro comrades.So it' s a pretty important point

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that he rescued from the visit wemade to the center of Meoriah, which
was that criticism of that constructive criticism, of how we became blind and ignored
the war and that we only wentout to talk about it when he arrived
in the urban area, when themilitias arrived, when the operation happened.

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The commune is not coming thirteen andso on, when the war arrived in
the city, but when the warwas in the rural area, we all
made ourselves the deaf holes and silencedthis situation. So it is an important
aspect that you rescued from that visitFather, how was that process, why

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are these four young people here?Not others, how was that selection process.
Well, it was done. Thisis a project, the project is
led by anequality root. We,as the same, are invited to participate,

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to participate in the project that wehave been in since the beginning in
its construction. And the project consists, therefore, in empowering within the framework
of the action plan of capri toyoung people of the Cenia suddenly to be

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known, so that plan is livedmore consciously. And the beauty of this
is that the guests, the guests, are young, that it has been
one of the big concerns of thesemi or how to link more and better

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young people to everything that is thework, or the strategies or the impulse
of the Afro- Colombian social movement, because I believe that to the extent
that young people are in this dynamic. The Afro- Colombian social movement is

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therefore making sense and will remain.Then what was made a summons within that
soon appeared. Around eighteen young peoplewere presented for this, for this Court,

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from which we have chosen or chosenfour out of four different tonsas cnoa
and they are now becoming experts onCapri and the o, experts and pioneers.

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And the idea is, like theysay, out there that what is
not known is not loved. Notthen is the first thing to know,
for what are the activities, theincidence, what is the raison d'
être of this plan of action.And like that, we can, as

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young Afro, how to make thebest of it, make the best of
it? I think we didn't know it existed, and that'
s why we weren' t worriedabout whether it was being implemented or not.
Now we know that it exists andwithin that we begin to look at

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possibilities, not only for us,not only for us, but for the
young women and men of our tonsas, for the young Afros, for the
young women and men of our territories. And I think you' re going
to bring them very good news andtell them first that it' s worth

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continuing to belong to the CM and, second, that you look there'
s a range of possibilities to keepgrowing, to keep learning, to keep
exchanging that we haven' t takenadvantage of them all of a sudden because
we don' t know them.If Bernauta continues today in Güeyes of Africania,

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talking about the process that has takenplace since Capri Lina. How they
chose these places where the young peoplewere going to go, because they chose
these and not others, those hadsome going to these spaces. It had
some political impact, because they wentto Congress, heard a human rights issue,

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passed through the Memory Center, passedthrough the National Museum. And thank
you for asking that question. No, if made May it has made sense
that in the framework of the welcomeweek, true, before giving way already
specifically with this program of internships,with the final projects, if there were
specific spaces, with spaces of incidence. This is true, for example,

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of theirs, to quote the Afro- Colombian Legal Commission. True the normative
and legal advances specifically to guarantee therights of Afro Colombian populations in the country
and also in the good spaces thatwe start on the agenda with the Commission,
with the visit of Centro de MemoriaEspacial, Reconciliación, the Museo Nacional,
So these people really are a spaceto have tamer encounters, with spaces

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of insidence, cultural spaces certain alsohave a space to meet with the city
and, moreover, also important topoint out that we have also had spaces
of formation, certain spaces also ofcollective exchange, for example, in topics
of how to make use of inter- American human rights systems, of systems
of universal protection of human rights thatwe also have, for example, how

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we can develop products for the incidenceof the work plans that are going to
elaborate the final projects. So,really this agenda has a whole component of
visiting and having spaces of exchange withand gentlemen of national incidence, cultural spaces
that were also of how we can, because there is a very important point
in that welcome agenda, true,and it is the subject of the final

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projects. And it is that thesefinal projects pass because from their autonomys,
it is true that it is aspace of a month where they will be
developing campaigns of communications, institutional strengthening, documents of incidence, true, strategy
of political impact, strategy of nationalincidence. This is because Orfiris, María
Fernanda, Sebastián, José, fromthe hand of their secretaries and operating secretaries,

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think about what is strategic for thetonga. Right, and also that
goes hand in hand with Capriin's action plans. So, really this
week we can summarize it in visitingspaces, in spaces in cultural activities,
of incidence and of strengthening also inthese topics, but it is also a
methodology in front of the participation.So it really is a space also to

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ask questions, question us, true, to exchange know each other and to
have that space also to meet youthat is also so important of meeting space
face to face and that I alsobelieve that it has allowed this week.
True, the sinua with his house, which also from here has been the
space where everything they do in theirshongas to realize those spaces of formation that

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has been so important to share withall the technical team of SINOA. It
was him to me. The truthwas very important to get to these places.
As I mentioned it right now andI say it again I think that
not everyone has the time, theavailability or suddenly that synergy of doing everything
that we did this week, thatit is worth mentioning that, apart from

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the places we met, we gotalong very well before we got here,
already at four we had a goodfeeling. We met at the airport where
we cooled, we already had whatsappgroups. Imagine your wau, our own
pas all the reception, the companyof the people we have had here since

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the first day we have felt likeat home really I don' t want
to go to meer se. Iwant to go so be good, perduo,
but continue for what we but well, has been very important all the
food, very cozy, especially herein the House Senova. I feel like
I' m sitting in my house. So the attention when my mom serves

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me food so hot, delicious andquite heroic yes, she doesn' t
want any more credits from the dysarea says if she' s listening to
us. Please thank you for thefood, thank you for your hospitality and
thank you for everything and good,really, very nice everything from here the

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race team. Equality too, andI think I congratulate you on the excellent
work that was done this week.Welcome and what' s coming. It
is pleasant for us to meet peoplelike you who offered us this space and
that we will value it very much, because, as I said, since
I arrived, not all young peoplehave the opportunity to reach these spaces,

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unfortunately, but here we are totake to our territory of this experience,
to tell everything they told us inCongress, from the figure, from the
form it has, from the anglesof architecture, from the museum, from
what we learned, from everything wesaw. That will serve for us to
tell many stories and to live manymore experiences in the future. The fasí

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saying, then, complementing what Maffesays has been a week of much learning.
I really saw a world of things. When they showed us the schedule,
I was nervous and I said allthat and the places we were going
to visit, but we had quitea bit of accompaniment. They have all
been very attentive to the process ofexplaining to us how soon we are going

(39:52):
to make a report. It hasbeen a rather positive accompaniment, because we
have lost. I mostly used tosay good to me and I and I
got into all this stuff that Ididn' t know. Then I said
they have opened us up as aworld of possibilities that we did not know
and then, participating in these processesmakes us grow on a professional level,

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on a spiritual level, on apersonal level, then it has also been
like that relationship between us and inour house, that in the house,
but here. Then we have beentreated very well, as maffe says we
have felt welcomed from our house.So the invitation also I feel is like
proud and as if I were Chicanando, as you normally say, because it

(40:39):
has really been a process and aweek that I don' t think we
forget, a lot of learning andgrowth of the summary. I with what
intentions did you have, why didyou run, what was law when you
presented yourself to this clear, Ithink good. Thankful to God and to
many people who have contributed to myleadership process from the city, since my

(41:01):
co- ordination, and I believethat one should always set ever greater goals
and challenges, and I think that, in a certain part, that was
the motivation I had to participate inthe process. It was the most motivation
I had to try to meet therequirements as much as possible, and I
came up with many expectations. Icame to know many spaces that for Afro

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- Colombian youth are often elusive,often non- existent or are spaces that
we simply cannot access due to differentstructural barriers. So I think I'
m keeping that and I' mstaying with the aim of replicating everything I
' ve learned, of replicating everythingI' ve seen, all the calls
that are available to many young peopleand many citizens, especially the descendant lining

(41:52):
people. Then I believe it ismy task and in addition to the task
that we have within the age ofthe vasantia process. Of course I don
' t know, you can't know that here we' re not
going to listen or the commitment don' t worry exactly and I' m
going to publicly commit them, Isay they' re going to say what
those commitments were. But right nowwith dates with no. Now I'

(42:16):
m gonna give you the engagements beforethe shirt runs out. But I want
to know what they did to makethat move a little more fun. Who
' s next, Maria, Fernandoor the fitz. Yeah, it'
s good. I really thought ofthis as something different, more methodical,

(42:38):
more pedagogical, and when I gotthe offer of the internship that really drove
me was my family and let's say my mother- in- law
in this case because the worst womenare also part of the training process.
Good is a good one, agood one Yes, she decided to back

(42:58):
me up, because obviously she's also part of the tonga and there
we have a process a long timeago. So, then, she said
well, look, bet I supportyou what you need, if you need,
you have some idea. She guidedher, she helped me, I
mean, she helped me a lot. He even checked me up to the
document if I had any flaws,some bad issues, and there we did
a team job, also with theoperating secretary. I mean, it was

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something that I don' t reallytake credit for, but I thank them,
too, and everyone in general,for helping me and supporting me to
support this process that is simply notMaría Fernanda' s, but also all
the young people in the miaga whobelieve in me and who have seen a
leader a long time ago. Inme, I feel like one of the
good activists. It' s notto throw flowers at me, but I

(43:44):
' m comforted by being one ofthe good women activists who defend the struggles
regarding the matter of youth and well, I think here a lot of good
experiences. I found good partners,found good trainers, good friends. And
this will serve me a great dealfor such also for my academic process.
Not really, because I am herebecause God wanted it and my Tongan youth

(44:04):
coordination team is going to save,that we have been working on various strategies,
making an impact with Afro youth groupsthroughout the area, because of the
valley of boredom. Then it wasa process where, since all of us
could have been here. So,that' s why I say it was

(44:25):
thank God I' m here,but it was a process where the project
or strategy I started here and Ithought ready. We have a strategy,
but now it' s time tocome here. That imaginary of the strategy
that I had has already changed alot, because then we have received a
more complete formation of where I havehad a slightly broader knowledge of the processes

(44:52):
that we could improve there, whichis precisely what I must become with my
work team, which is the coordinationthat we have to implement, because like
all those strategies and improve those thatwe are already carrying there. So,
well, like, what brought mehere to this psantity of Capri. It

(45:20):
took me a bus moment. Icarry a lot of food, because first
of all, I, in thetwenty- three thousand, had many projects
and I have planned what I wantedto do in the twenty- four thousand
in terms of my academic and worklife, because because of the neighbor'

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s things it was not given andit was not planned. Capric' s
project thus arose because of the circumstance. Then I had no plans to introduce
myself because I had aspirations at theacademic level, already missing a week before
the closing of the call, asI began to pray the proposal for the

(46:04):
new Tongacia Madrina Centro. So,as they say, I started to throw
the way out, to talk aboutit. Then he saw she was the
mother of a garle. You don' t have to platter it to me,
so by eight, everyone lies,everything lies, or then I project

(46:27):
what I would do if I benefitedfrom this process, how I would visualize
that knowledge that I learned here,that I learned with Capri, in Tonga,
towards the new Marine Center, inthe organizations that are in the dural
hour, in Puerto oyo here.So that' s what I' m

(46:47):
taking, that knowledge I learned thatweek. Let' s talk. Give
them more a minute, because alreadytime the program and then we don'
t go out to it incomplete.Cut us off that art thing or,

(47:08):
please, tell us or tell us? What is that project the drago and
how he won or not forgiveness.He can do it there less bad for
you as a programmer. You arehere because you made some proposals. Among
the eighteen proposals that came around,yours are the strongest, the most powerful

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and also have that sense of socialchange. What was his own, as
he comments at the beginning, Ibe a student on occasion. Then the
project was based on talking about theinnocation and the author recognition as a source
for development and we, as ablack community, both economic, social and

(47:50):
cultural development, is to foster thesecustoms, those cultural practices that we have
as a group and not first recognizethem ourselves and recognize ourselves to participate in
them, in order to get thegeneral society, governmental entities to recognize us
to say here. In Bogotá,there is a large presence of Black communities

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because we have been semitized that weare all Black people in the Pacific and
Black people have been sent out who, because of forced displacement, have mobilized
within the country and also the processof Black communities in the Caribbean. So
that' s invisible, and there' s only talk of black people in
the Pacific. Then the proposal thatI spoke about and that I put forward

(48:38):
my project was the author' srecognition as a form of us making us
recognize in Colombia. On this side, work well, we, from youth
coordination breast to saving valleys We comethinking of the level, because, in

(48:58):
the work part, of how weare, of how the Afro- hoing
population is in the labor field.Yes, then, from there we are
not thinking of institutional strengthening, lookingat how many of our young people are
working, how they are in thatfield of work, who have jobs,

(49:20):
what their professions are. So we' re going to do like that information
gathering within our own organizations to beable, like having a characterization of all
the processes at the labor level thatthe young population is, so that we
can suddenly articulate ourselves in an alreadymore organized way and united with all those

(49:43):
policies or programs that public and privateentities have. Then we come as working
with that strategy, in the formationof groups that we are calling afro-
juvenile employment. But already with allthat process that we have been receiving here
through making that I am going toreplicate all the information, I imagine that

(50:04):
we are going to reformulate several points, but we are thinking like that,
in the employment situation of the youngAfro- Colombian population. Thank you,
okay. One of the proposals thatI put forward through my concern about the

(50:25):
low number of leaderships in our sector, I proposed institutional strengthening through training schools
to advance the Afro- youth incidencein my municipality, which would be the
municipality of Magdalena and, if possible, work in other places in the department
where we will act through cultural andparticipatory dynamics so that young people can be

(50:50):
trained and participate through these open spaces, which will make it easier for young
people in the different sectors to joinus in building experiences and voices, identifying
problems and solutions, and also givingrecommendations to the local government to improve the

(51:13):
participation of our sector and that itsimply does not remain in a few,
but that it reaches all the peoplewho self- acknowledge as members of the
Afro population and that we can continueto resist and participate in any stage of
participation where we are allowed. Thankyou. Now we are, and we

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' re looking. Oh, Moncayo, short, but short. I want
to know that voice is short,because it' s that they wouldn'
t get anywhere if I didn't have to cellular and this guide the
nickname thanks to Professor Moncayo, whowalked all over Colombia. Then, considering
this story, we placed Moncayo becausehe had us walking very fast. Of
course, well, yes, toclose, also to highlight the importance of

(52:00):
the plans and the work that mycolleagues are going to implement and because I
focused very much on enhancing the politicalparticipation of youth leaders of African descent in
the Department of Bolívar. Then it' s aimed at strengthening. Let'
s say that, with current andwell- grounded themes, many of Tonga

(52:21):
' s youth Cartagena Bolívar and alsopromote that intergenerational exchange among the leaders of
the Afro- descendant people, aswell as audiovisual pieces that show the whole
process that takes place in the frameworkof internships. So, quick, so,
more. That' s good.Ah, okay, if you want

(52:43):
more, what cane for others.Well, Lina' s gonna have a
minute and a half for a lotand a lot. When we were on
the show, they didn' tthink the questions were coming back. In
the end I said young people comethey leave with many illusions if I like
to listen to them, because theyspeak from an adn sinoa, they talk

(53:07):
about what they have learned, thatthis is their home and they leave.
You feel when you hear them.I was writing to the father internally that
my heart was swollen. I saidhow cute of those who go as with
so many energies of replicating without needthat one tells them they should make them
already so I just listen to themunless it is parla. I don'
t think the man less can followthis program. This is another fact for

(53:30):
other days the young people, atthe end or all this process in which
they will decant what is the benefitfor them beyond that they already have one
first, that it was an experienceto know and generate bonds worth more.
Of course, I tell you alittle bit in terms also of what we
will continue to do in the frameworkof internships. True and it is also

(53:52):
to recognize that this is like thebeginning. It is true that week of
meeting, of welcoming, of meeting, of dialogue, of sharing and the
idea. Just today we are landingsome of those ideas and proposals in work
plans and ideas of final projects thatthey will continue to carry out together with
their secretaries and operating secretaries of thetonsas and their organizations. Then tell you

(54:13):
that from today to these three months, we will continue to work hand in
hand with astongas on the issues thathave identified of interest for the strengthening of
their organizations, and that goes throughthe elaboration of a work plan that will
socialize with their organizations, with theirsecretaries and secretaries and that they will arrange
and that they will agree ready.So, that' s the idea and
it' s also a very cooljob, because the technical team of the

(54:34):
cno is going to be right onthat support, follow- up, accompanying
also from the Race Institute of Equality. We will also have those accompanying spaces
from here on out to further materializetheir work plans, which will follow very
closely in line with that Capri actionplan. For just this week we have
come, knowing certain and passing forthat final project that will be the third
month, is the possibility that theycan also execute their ideas in an autonomous

(54:59):
way. The racity, for example, trusts above all the issue of employability,
a certain insertion into the labour market. María Fernanda and shared the whole
issue with us also in political science, from leadership and youth. Today,
too, we were told about theissue of gentrification, about the situation of
racial ethnic segregation in Cartagena and aboutits interest in the subject of true tourism
and also about the Afro- Colombiancommunities. In Cartagena, José also posed

(55:24):
a question and a problem is alsohow we can continue to socialize the employability
programs, true and the processes ofentrepreneurship carried out by the Afro- Colombian
communities Puerto Boyacá. So, ifthere' s a very interesting challenge and
I think they have it super-identified, right, today' s topic,
we kind of landed it, butthey' re already pretty clear that

(55:45):
route that they' re going tocontinue to implement hand in hand with their
trogas and their organizations over these threemonths. And the idea is that,
beyond these three months, you cancontinue to implement and articulate as you have
been doing during your years with yourorganizations. So that' s the idea
of that process and what we're taking. Right, well, people,

(56:06):
I' m going to thank youfor being in African footprints technical territories
building peace. Come on right,well, gensey, I' m gonna
thank you for being in African footprints, technical territories building peace. We'
re gonna say good- bye likethis quick to see how he organized.
After all those greetings come out Hello, I am Orfiris, the tonga such

(56:28):
and how to leave or a shortmessage, a word or a greeting.
Hello my name José Murillo I amfrom Tonga c New Mandalena Center and to
my territory I carry knowledge wisdom.Hello my name is Maria Fernanda, Medina
Carbono I come from Tonga Magdalena andto my territory I take a lot of
resistance and greater capacity of incidence.Or hello my name is Filis de la

(56:53):
Tonga Sinova Go to erase and tomy territory I take a world of possibilities.
Pugla my name Lina Velásquez of theInstituto Raza Igualdad, and I take
to the importance of working in teamcoalition and articulation to continue advancing the one
who plays good. Having reached theend like this conversation, I would like

(57:20):
to first wish you much luck inthis experience, with many better successes in
this experience and because I am herelooking forward to seeing how this experience will
develop in these tonsas, in Tongacn de Burra, Tonga sen Magdalena,

(57:43):
ton gazen Igua Bancos. He sawtoday in the tong gacn Ua Madale the
Acent. Well, thank you,Father, thank you very much. So
we have reached the end of Africania' s tracks, technical territories building peace.
I don' t secu de lachamos next Tuesday at 10 a m

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to remind you that this program comesout on Tuesdays and repeats on Wednesdays.
Thanks to the other great things ofthese you started very embroidered or broken to

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the other side of the world.There is a continent with fifty- four
countries invited by the groups Palanda,Caraballo, Lushan and many more villages,
but, warriors, thinkers, farmers, miners, ranchers and fishermen who are

(58:52):
present today in Colombia. If youuse the words chevere yam, they can
suck. You' re rescuing theoral tradition of Africania. If you prefer
salsa, vallenato or reggae when yougo, you evoke the rhythms of Africania.
If as a child you heard themyths and legends of Mother Monte,

(59:13):
the Tunda, the Mother of Waterand the Rain, you are remembering the
stories of Africa. Line up aradio rosary. In association with the National
Conference of Afro- Colombian Organizations Senoa, they presented traces of Africanic cetnic territories,
building traces of African traces of Africain Colombia