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This is Hungry Gen podcast, and I just want to
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We hope you enjoyed this week's message. The title of.
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This message is God, the Devil and Israel and the
only way to explain Israel and the Jewish people is
to look into the spiritual realm for answers. Pauls also
said in Second Corinthians to eleven, we're not ignorant of
Satan's devices. The children of Issachar are Second Chronicles eleven
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thirty two. It said that they understood the times and
knew what Israel should do. So let us be spiritually minded.
Let's not react to the latest trend on social media
or in TV media. Let's step back and say, God,
what are you saying, what are you doing? What's the
enemy doing? And how should we respond? So first, what
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does the Word say about this? What does God say
about Israel? He said this to Moses and Aaron in
Exodus four twenty two.
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You must say to.
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Pharaoh, this is what the Lord says. Israel is my son,
my firstborn. Even then, when Israel was in bondage in Egypt,
God said, that's my son, that's my firstborn. What happened
centuries later, when the people of Israel had fallen into
sin and disobedience? What did God say Jeremiah thirty one
twenty is not Ephriam, my dear son, the child in
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whom I delight. Though I often speak against him, I
still remember him. Therefore, my heart yurins Brim, I have
great compassion for him. Even Israel and disobedience, was still
loved by God, and still his kids, still his son.
And then in Leviticus twenty six, a chapter that's filled
with covenant curses and judgments on Israel. If you disobey,
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all these terrible things will happen. Look at what God
says even in the midst of Israel's disobedience Leviticus twenty six,
forty four in forty five. Yet in spite of this,
we're in the land of their enemies. I will not
reject them or abhor them so as to destroy them completely,
breaking my covenant with them.
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I am the lord there God.
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But for their sake I will remember the covenant with
their ancestors, whom I brought out of Egypt in the
sight of the nations to.
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Be their God. I am the Lord.
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God made promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And he said,
God who keeps his promises. It's not about Israel's goodness,
It's about God's goodness. It's not about Israel's faithfulness. It's
about God's faithfulness. Israel does not stand by obedience and performance.
Israel stands by the grace of God and by the
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grace of God alone. And as Christians, as people who
are recipients of God's grace, we should appreciate that, not
be upset about it. I'll come back to that later.
But it always boggles my mind that we who have
received so much grace from God get mad, but he
gives grace to somebody else. He says, Look, and when
you're sinning, I'm still not going to forget the fact
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that I made promises and I keep my promises.
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What about this?
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Even scattered and judged God said he would preserve us
and regather us. Jeremiah chapter thirty, verse eleven. I am
with you and will save you, declares the Lord. Though
I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you,
I will not completely destroy you. I will discipline you,
but only in due measure. I will not let you
go entirely unpunished. So think of this. The people of
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Israel are about the same age as the people of
China and the people of India. Both China and India
have about one and a half billion people. The Jewish
people are about fourteen or fifteen million. So we have
suffered much as the Chosen people. We have been scattered
around the world. But God said, yet, I will gather you.
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I will preserve you, and I will gather you Jeremiah
thirty one to ten. Hear the word of the Lord.
Your nations proclaim it in distant coast lands. He who
scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his
flock like a shepherd. The nations to which we were scattered,
the great empires of Assyria, BABYLONNAA, they're gone, But God
kept us for a purpose. You say, yeah, but you're
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quoting all these Old Testament verses. Well, the New Testament
does not undo the Old Testament. It brings it to
its fullness. Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the
law the prophets, but to fulfill in Matthew five point seventeen.
In Romans fifteen eight, it says that the Messiah confirms
the promises to the patriarchs. He doesn't cancel them, he
confirms them. And what is Paul Wright in the New
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Testament speaking about the Jewish people who do not believe
in Jesus, the Jewish people who reject the Messiah Romans eleven,
twenty eight, and twenty nine. As far as the Gospel
is concerned, they who the Jewish people who do not believe,
are enemies for your sake. But as far as election
is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs.
For God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. It has
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to do with his promise, his integrity, his faithfulness. If
Israel was wiped off the map, it would make God
into a liar. If God did not have the power
to regather them, it would make God into a liar.
It's about his word, his character. That's what The real
battle is over.
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And look at this.
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Jeremiah thirty two. Jerusalem is under siege. This is almost
twenty six hundred years ago, or roughly twenty six hundred
years ago, and it looks like it's all over for
the Jewish people, and says this you were saying about
this city. By the sword, famine and plague will be
given into the hands of the King of Babylon. But
this is what the Lord, the God of Israel says.
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I will surely gather them from all the lands where
I banish them and my furious anger and great wrath.
I will bring them back to this place and let
them live in safety. They will be my people, and
I will be their God. I will give them singleness
of heart and actions, so that they will always fear me,
and that all will then go well with them and
for their children after them. I will make an everlasting
covenant with them. I will never stop doing good to them,
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and I will inspire them to fear me, so that
they will never turn away from me. I'll rejoice in
doing them good and will assuredly plant them in this
land with all my heart.
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And my soul.
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He has not fully done that yet. There are promises
that are still to be fulfilled. There are Jewish people
still to be regathered, and there is a nation that
is still to turn to the Messiah. What God said
he will bring to pass. There was a past history
for Israel. There is a future history for Israel. What
is God's perspective? What is Satan's perspective? God's perspective is
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this His heart.
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Is for the whole world.
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The reason he chose Abraham and the seed of Abraham,
and then ultimately tribe of Judah and then the line
of David. The ultimate reason was because he wanted to
save the world. It's not about Israel, it's not about
the Jewish people. It's about saving the world. God's heart
for Abraham is that through his seat, the whole world
would be blessed. But God needed a people through whom
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he could send them Assiah. Look, if Jesus was born
in India two thousand years ago would have just been
in their mind another incarnation of Krishna, just another deity
to worship or something like that. They'd add him to
the list. And he couldn't have been raised in an
environment where people Understoyo, there's only one true God, people
understood concepts of sin and atonement. If he died on
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the cross and rose from the dead, they just think
amazing and worship him, add him to their list of gods.
He had to come among a people who understood the
one true God. The people that lived in ritual purity
and separation be born and raised there, and then those
people could understand what was happening. That's why the first
believers were all Jews, so they can now tell the
rest of the world. So God's heart has been for
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the rest of the world. But because he made promises
to a people through whom he bring them aside.
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He keeps his promises.
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What's Satan's perspective, Well, Satan stands opposed to the plan
of God and the people of God and wants to
destroy them from the earth. The same devil that's inspiring
the murder of Christians around the world is seeking to
wipe the Jewish people off the planet. This God promised
to preserve the Jewish people. If you're the devil, you
want to wipe them out. God promised to bring us
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back to the land.
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If you're the devil, you.
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Want to keep us out of the land. God promised
that the Jewish Jerusalem would welcome back to Messiah. If
you're the devil, you want to keep Jerusalem out of
Jewish hands, and you want to keep Jews away from Jesus.
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See, that's why the battle is so intense.
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That's why of the whole world is an outpro about Israel,
Because it's a spiritual battle. You have to look behind
the scenes, not just look at the headlines and the
latest trends.
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That's what the world is saying, and.
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A lot of it, that's what the devil wants us
to concentrate on. What's God saying and doing. What about
the perspective of Israel? Well, Jewish people would say, you know,
it's a high privilege and high calling. But Jews sometimes
wonder why not choose somebody else? In other words, when
people like, well, you think you're the chosen people? It
has not been a great ride. It has been a
costly ride. To be quote, the chosen people. Oh not
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chosen in Jesus to salvation. Jewish people who die without
Jesus are lost.
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The worst thing to do is.
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To not share the Gospel with Jewish people. A Jew
who dies without Jesus is as lost as a gentile
who dies without Jesus. But God chose the Jewish people
for a particular mission, and that chosen status remains. So
there's no rational way to explain the existence of the
Jewish people. I want you to consider this from a
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spiritual perspective. And I just want to quote a bunch
of people in American history who were some of the
great thinkers and leaders and founders, and see what they
had to say. And this was long before the Holocaust
and long before the modern restoration of Israel. The philosopher
and theologian Jonathan Edwards, besides the prophecies of the calling
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of the Jews, we have a remarkable providential seal of
the fulfillment of this great event by a kind of
continual miracle. Namely, they're being preserved as a distinct nation
and such a dispersed condition for above sixteen hundred years.
The world afford's nothing else like it. There is undoubtedly
a remarkable hand.
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Of providence in it.
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Look, you move out of your home country into another country,
and in a matter of generations you will assimilate. They'll
be intermarriage, there'll be assimilation. When you have no homeland anymore,
century after century after century after century, you lose national identity.
I mean, I could go through ancient people after ancient people,
after ancient people, I got dispersed, and they are no more.
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There's only one except only one exception in world history,
the Jews, not because of Jewish greatness, but because of
God's greatness. Thomas Newton, the preservation of the Jews is
really one of the most signal and illustrious acts of
divine providence. And what but a supernatural power could have
preserved them in such a manner as none other nation
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upon Earth has been preserved Mark Twain. If the statistics
are right, the Jews population constitutes but one percent of
the un and race. It's way under that now it
suggests a nebulous puff of stardust lost in the blaze
of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jews ought hardly to
be heard of. But He has heard of, has always
been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet
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as any other people. The Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Persians
rose filled, the planet was sound and splendid, and faded
to dream stuff and passed away. The Greeks and Romans
followed and made a vast noise, and they were gone.
All things are mortable to jew All other forces passed,
But he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?
In a word, God, what did Paul write? The gifts
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and calling of God are irrevocable, can't.
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Be taken back.
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When he gives the promise, he gives a promise. He
gave certain gifts to the Jewish people, and that's why
there is disproportion of Jewish influence in the world, for
good or for bad. You think of leaders, Jewish leaders
who have changed the world, from Moses to Paul, or
people who have had massive world influence like Albert Einstein,
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of them Jews. And then you think Jews have brought
destruction like Karl Marx or some many other most radical
leftist caused today funded by Jews. There's certain gifting to
be influential. We get things right, it's amazing. We get
things wrong, it's terrible. That's why this higher accountability as well.
But there's only one explanation, God, Thomas Jefferson. If I
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was an atheist, so he was a rationalist. If I
was an atheist and believed in blind eternal faith, I
should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to
be the most essential instrument for civilized in the nations.
I should believe that chance had ordered the Jews to
preserve and propagate to all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise,
almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be
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the great essential principle of all morality and consequently of
all civilization. I mean, think God speaks to this one man, Abraham,
just in the middle of nowhere, speaks to him and
gives him a promise.
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And to this day Muslims.
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And Christians and all say, that's our spiritual Father.
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Amazing what because God spoken.
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I could give you a similar quote from John Adams,
we'll skip over that historian Paul Johnson, one of the
great historians of this generation and past generation. The survival
of the Jews down the ages is a fact unique
in human history. No Orther people, once dispersed, has remained
a distinct entity, with the common faith, a common language,
albeit archaic, a common literature, and a common ethos for
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two thousand.
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Years and more.
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As for the modern state of Israel, there's really no
rational explanation for that either. Consider this when I was
growing up, I was born in nineteen fifty five, So
that's a hint that I could.
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Use the water that I said no too earlier.
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By the way, I just like to give people an
opportunity to serve.
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Thank you, thanks so much. Also, just a.
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Biblical principle of you see how much a little glass
of order can do. I was born in nineteen fifty five,
so I'm seventy years old and one more moment here.
Remember anything happens to my voice, you just take.
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Over the message.
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So when I was born, the Holocaust that was recent memory.
There were some kids in my neighborhood, their parents were
Holocaust survivors, would never talk about it, but they said, yeah.
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They've got the number on their arms. And then the
birth of the modern state of Israel is says impossible.
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I mean, you have to just think two out of all,
two out of three European Jews were slaughtered. A country
like Poland had three point three million Jews, three million
of them killed. Think of it, It's better than nine
out of every ten. They've lived there for a thousand years.
And then a modern state of Israel birth out of
the how and then the Sixth Day War in nineteen
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sixty seven, it was staggering. It was how did this happen?
How did this happen? But people are born today, raised today.
Forget the Holakaust that doesn't even exist in our memory.
I mean the nine eleven terrorist attacks that doesn't even
exist October seventh.
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That's just distant memory.
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And for young people raising up today, Israel is the
evil empire. The Israel is the powerful monster oppressing and
killing the poor Palestinians. Now listen, if you have Gone's heart,
you care about Palestinian stuffering as well. If you have
God's heart, you understand the death of a Palestinian child
is just as tragic as the death of an Israeli child.
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Amen.
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But everything has been changed. You're just used to Israel
being there. There's no miracle to it. David Ben Gurion
one of the founders of the modern state of Israel,
and most of the founders were not believers.
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Many of them were atheists.
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David Ben Gurion said in Israel, in order to be
a realist, you must.
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Believe in miracles.
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Winston Churchill said, the coming into being of a Jewish
state and Palestine is an event in world history to
be viewed in the perspective not of a generation or
a century, but in the perspective of a thousand, two thousand,
or even three thousand years.
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Or think of this.
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I'm going to give you a quote from a contemporary
Christian scholar, Professor Craig Blazing.
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But think of this.
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When Jerusalem was destroyed in the year seventies, Jesus prophesied
what happened, and as there was a scattering of many
Jewish people, then Christians looked at that and thought, it's
over for the Jewish people.
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It's over for Israel.
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God's broth, final judgment. Then you go to one hundred
and thirty five and there's another Jewish revolt and this
is put down, and it's terribly violent, and Jews just
banned from Jerusalem at this point, and it's clearly over.
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God scattered the Jewish people. It's over. That's what they
were thinking.
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So Professor Blazing, says, Supersessionists those who believe the Church
is the new Israel, as Pastor of lad preached last week,
those who believe that the Promise is once given to
Israel in the Old Testament, now belongs spiritually to the Church.
Supercessionists believe that the catastrophes of AD seventy and one
thirty five signaled God's intention to make a complete end
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of Israel as a political national entity. The dramatic establishment
of the State of Israel in nineteen forty eight under
God's Providence has belied the notion that Israel has no
national future.
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In other words, if people.
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Said, well, it's over for Israel because God judged them,
well it's not over Israel. For Israel because He brought
them back. It's over for Israel because God destroyed Jerusalem.
Well it's not over for Israel because God rebuilt Jerusalem.
The New Testament expectation of a future for ethnic national
Israel includes restoration to the land in the coming Kingdom
of Christ. And to help you think this through spiritually, friends,
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ask yourself, why is the whole world so.
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Concerned about Israel?
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With all the wars taking place, with all the suffering
taking place, with all the conflicts taking place.
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Why is everyone so exercised by this Israel?
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Why are people chanting free Palestine around the world. They're marches, demonstrations,
Free Palestine from the river to the sea. Palestine shall
be free and liberds no more Israel. I want you
to consider this. In Yemen civil war since twenty fourteen,
there have been more than four hundred thousand people killed.
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The civil wars in Syria since twenty eleven more than
six hundred thousand killed, so more than a million people
killed in these wars of Arab killing Arab, with deprivation,
with famine, with all types of atrocities, with as many
as four hundred and fifty thousand civilian deaths combined.
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Where's the outrage? Where are the people marching?
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Why is it that when Arabs kill Arabs there's no uproar,
but when Jews kill Arabs, this world upbrowarer.
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You wondered about that. Let's take the UN.
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The UN General Assembly has historically passed a disproportionately high
number of resolutions that condemned or criticize Israel compared to
other countries. These resolutions are non binding but carry symbolic weights.
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So consider this.
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This is readily available research it. This is not dispute it.
From twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three, the UN General
Assembly adopted one one hundred and fifty four resolutions against
Israel and only seventy one against all other countries combined.
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This is madness.
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This is no possible legitimate reason for saying this. In
twenty twenty four alone, there were seventeen resolutions against Israel
versus six against the rest of the world. Can you
imagine this UN Commission on the Status of Women This
is an annual gathering event discussion publication put out Israeli
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journalist Noga ger Aarya in twenty fifteen explained at the
closing of the fifty ninth UN Commission on the Status
of Women this Friday, only one political resolution was passed,
one that accuses Israel of mistreating Palestinian women in all
aspects of life.
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So they come up with one resolution.
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They single out one country in the world, not Afghanistan,
where women are deprived of education, not other Muslim countries
where a woman can't even drive a car without a
male there, or can't go out without a male, where
a young women could be killed for our honor, killing
if she likes someone that the family doesn't like.
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None of them singled out Israel. And it's been year
in year.
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From twenty fifteen to twenty twenty four, this group adopted
at least ten such resolutions. So every year they come
up with one resolution, which is to condemn Israel for
mistreatment of women. And by the way, the most progressive,
the most progressive country in the Middle East and in
much of the world in terms of women's rights, is Israel,
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by the way. And then we're told, well, look the
people in Israel today are fake Jews. You ever heard
that they're fake juice? So first question I have is
where do all the fake Jews come from?
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That's a mystery to me.
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In fact, somebody is so called fake Jews have been
living there in that region for over two thousand years.
And then second thing that gets my attention. If they're
fake Jews, why do you hate them the same way
you hate the real juice? And then thirdly, if I
say so, if they're real Jews, do they have a
right to be back in the land of Israel?
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You say no?
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So, then what does it matter if they're real Jews
or fake juice just smoke screen?
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And why does the whole world care about.
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The city of Jerusalem more than any other city with
the horrible conflict with Russia and Ukraine and all the
suffering that's taking place there.
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If I sit you, okay, name for me the key.
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Ukrainian cities involved with the Church here with the Ukrainian background,
Many couldn't do it. And the world is not talking
about that, but Jerusalem, the whole world's talking about. Why
Zicharia twelve a future event still to happen as the
world turns against Jerusalem Versus two and three. I'm about
to make Jerusalem a cup that brings dizzyness to all
the surrounding nations. Indeed, Judah will also be included when
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Jerusalem is besieged. Moreover, on that day, I will make
Jerusalem a heavy burden for all the nations, and all
who try to carry it will be seriously injured. All
the peoples of the earth will be assembled against him.
In point of fact, Jesus is coming back to a
Jewish Jerusalem, and that's why the whole world cares about it.
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It's in the Bible.
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Friends, twenty five hundred years ago, this.
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Would make no sense.
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Why would the whole world care about Jerusalem today? There
are ninety seven embassies as I last checked, ninety seven
embassies in Israel.
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Where are they? Ninety in Tel Aviv and only seven
in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the capital.
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Where are all of our embassy All the embassies in
America are in Washington, d C. Because that's our capital.
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, and that's the one
city and all the world where the embassies are not located,
the one capital city. Why Jerusalem, even when it just
comes to antisemitism in general. Sigmund Freud said this, and
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for those of you not familiar with Freud, he was
anything but a Bible believer. Freud said this in nineteen
thirty eight with regard to antisemitism, I don't really want
to search for explanations. I feel a strong inclination to
surrender to my effects in this manner and find myself
confirmed and my wholly unscientific belief that mankind, on the
average and taken by and large, are wretched lot. I
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can't explain anti semitism rationally. We just must be wicked,
missed up human beings. You have antisemitism on the left
and anti semitism on the right. Many were shocked to
see it rising on college campuses on the radical left.
I'd been documenting it for years. I wasn't surprised, and
now we're seeing it right within the ranks of the right,
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the conservative, of the conservaive of Christian right. Why why
does the left in the right have Jew.
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Hatred in common?
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You can go from the Ku Klux Klan white supremacist
to the Nation of Islam black supremacists, and what do
you find hatred of Jews and admiration of Hitler.
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Here.
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These are actual quotes. Here's from a white supremacist. Hitler
was a man of peace who was forced into war.
His real crime was opposing Jewish domination. Black supremacist. Hitler
was a very great man. He rose Germany up from
the ashes of World War One. This is a great man,
unlike any person then or now. In my book, our
hands are staying with Blood. We ship books, but they
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were shipped to the wrong address.
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Our error. They're not here.
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You can order it anywhere online. Our hands are staying
with blood. I laid this out when researching it for decades.
Book came out in ninety two. We updated it in
twenty nineteen, and you'll see all this data. In fact,
as much as I've been following this, it was still
jarring to me to update the book because everything we
wrote about decades ago is repeating itself. It's repeating itself,
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but it's getting louder and clearer and more frightening. You
have antisemitism through Christian history, you have anti semitism in Islam.
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Why on the right.
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On the left, black supremacist, white supremacists, Christianity and Islam.
Catholic scholar Edward Flannery said, the vast majority of Christians,
even well educated, are all but totally ignorant of what
happened to Jews in history and of the culpable involvement
of the Church. He said, of this little exaggeration to
state that those pages of history Jews have committed to
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memory are the very ones that have been torn from
Christian and secular history books to this day. When I
talk about anti Semitism in church history and just go
through the names of some of the most famous respected
leaders to this day and hear the anti Semitic things
they said, people are in a state of shock. You
have antisemitism along fascists, among communists, fascist like Joseph Goebbels,
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a Nazi leader, The Jew is the corruptor of the world.
He must be eradicated root and branch, or Communists like
shay Kovara, the Jewish bankers and industrialists, or the vampires
of imperialism sucking the blood of the third world.
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Why do they all hate the Jews.
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Don't look at it in the natural, look at it
in the spiritual. It's because of God's purposes and God's
hand on the people for a purpose. How about this,
queers for Palestine. I mean, if anything doesn't make sense,
it's this. And I've tracked this for years, long before
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October seventh. I remember in Charlotte living I lived near Charlotte,
North Carolina, there was a rally LGBTQ plus pro Hamas rally. Listen,
you put up the Queers for Palestine flag in Gauza.
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That's the last thing you ever do. You're either dead
or you're in jail.
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I'm not saying this to me and are mock those
who identify as gay or buyer trans want them to
hear the same gospel we've heard. But listen, you're a
man who dresses a woman, and you're an out and
proud gay man. You're a lesbian with your partner. You
go marching down the streets of Gaza, even in Juda, Samaria,
the so called West Bank, and that's it for you.
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And to my shame, Israel is famously gay friendly. Of course,
the very religious Jews are against it. Tel Aviv voted
the most gay friendly city in the world years ago.
You have gay pride marriages, not just in Tel Aviv
but in Jerusalem. I'm ashamed to say it. And yet
you have Queers for Palestine. There's no rational explanation for this, friends,
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it's cultural madness, but it's because it's a spiritual battle.
During the Middle Ages, during the Black Plague, when so
many people died, as many as a third of the
people died, not as many Jews died per capita, just
because of living by toial laws and hygiene. They still died. Well, then,
who started the plague. It's got to be the Jews.
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You got to scapegoats somebody. It's always the Jews. That's
a remarkable thing.
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They were accused of poisoning the wells, taking hearts of
animals and other things, and then taking the elements of
communion and mixing them together to poison the wells. And
twelve fifteen, the fourth Latteran Council of the Catholic Church
when they officially said that the communion wafer is literally
the body of Jesus. Now, Jews were accused of kidnapping
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and torturing wafers.
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I kid you not.
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And just like with the Black Plague, thousands, tens of
thousands of Jews were slaughtered. Whole Jewish communities were slaughtered
because of these charges. They've been accused to this day
of kidnapping and killing Christian children before Passover and using
their blood to make mons. This is still widely believed
in the Muslim world to this day. Jews have been
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accused of controlling the Vatican. Jews reccused of starting COVID.
Jews Israel's not being a chewose of assassinating Charlie Kirk.
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Friends, is happening in front of our eyes.
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You need eyes to see as history repeats itself. This
is a spiritual battle.
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Think of this.
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The aftermath of October seventh, the worst shedding of Jewish
blood in Israel or any.
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Day since the Holocaust.
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And I saw some of the idea of footage just shocking,
beyond words. Term of babies burned alive, women raped and slaughtered,
just horrific. Holocaust survivors killed with gunshots to the head.
On October ninth in Sydney, Australia, before Israel had launched
its offensive, there were Muslims chanting gas the Jews.
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How do you explain that.
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December twenty twenty three, so just two months after October seventh,
a survey was done and young people in America fifty
one percent said Israel should be ended.
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And given over to Kamas.
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How does this happen without spiritual explanation? And then as yourself,
why does some Christians get so upset when you said
that the Jews people are still chosen for a mission?
I mean, I remember watching a video once there was
a cowboy preacher on the streets of England and he
was dressed as a cowboy to get attention, you know,
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cowboy hat, cowboy boots, preaching and he's preaching on the
resurrection of Jesus. Say there's an atheist there. It looked
like he was almost having a fit. I mean he
was screaming and yelling. He yelling at the top of
his lungs. Jesus did not rise from the dead, He
did not rise from the screaming and yelling, red in
the face, and the preacher said to him them, why
are you so mad?
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And it's the same thing. You know, I've.
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Debated people and said, yeah, well the Jewish people is
still chosen, and I've had Christians go berserk. Why are
you so upset about that? Does it take away from
your salvation? Does it take away from the forgiveness of sins?
You have eternal life, you have being sons and daughters
of God chosen in Messiah. Does it take away from
being with him forever and ever? I get so upset
about it because it's spiritual. It's spiritual, and then just
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go quickly through this. Verses have been pulled out of
the New Testament and been used for many centuries to
speak against the Jewish people as a people.
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Matthew twenty one, forty three.
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The Kingdom of God will be taken from you, taken
from you and given to a people bearing its.
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Fruit, taken from the Jews and given to the church.
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No, the context is taken from the bad leadership, the
religious hypocrites, and given to the people, now given to
the Jewish apostles. Read the context. Jesus spoken against the
religious leaders who were afraid of the crowd, the Jewish
crowd who thought Jesus was a prophet. Matthew twenty seven,
twenty five. All Jewish people are under a curse, that's
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what said. Why because a crowd of Jewish people when
Polot said, well, what do we do with Jesus, this
said crucified, and they said his blood be on our
hands and on our children. That means, according to the said,
all Jewish people through all ages are under this curse. Firstus,
it was a crowd. He did not have the authority
to speak for the whole nation. And second, what happened
was they suffered. In the next generation suffered. It did happen,
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They did suffer. But that these verses are used to
this day to say all Jews worldwide are under a
curse for coming Christ. John eight forty four. Jews are
of their father, the devil. Jesus is talking to Jewish
Men who claim to be disciples, and weren't you said,
you're actually not my disclphs.
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You're of your father, the devil. But you know what.
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The Bible also says, Gentiles are of their father, the devil.
Everyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is under his power
of First John five nineteen. The whole world is under
the power of the devil two Corinthians four to fourth.
The God of this age is blinded the minds of
those who don't believe. Ephesians two three. All of us
at one point were children of wrath. First Thessalonians two.
I'll come back to that in a moment. Revelation two nine,
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Revelation three nine. All Jews are of the Synagogue of Satan.
I can't tell you how many, hundreds, probably thousands of times.
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If I have any posts.
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Having to do with Israel and Jewish people, people just
post Revelation two nine, Revelation three nine, meaning they're all
the Synagogue of Satan. Jesus was telling churches under persecution,
speaking of those who claim to be Jews and were
not and we're opposing them. He said, they're actually the
Synagogue of Satan. Who's he talking about? Well, there could
have been people who weren't Jews and claimed to be Jews.
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As first possibility Gentiles who claim to be Jews and
we're not, and we're persecuting these Christians. The other possibility
it's Jews who were not living is Jews and we're
persecuting Christians. And of those, he says, they're of the
Synagogue of Satan because they're opposing the Gospel. But what
about first Thessalonians two. This passage has been used to
say all Jews of all time.
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Are guilty of killing Jesus.
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Standard translation, you became imitators, brothers and sisters of God's
churches in Christ Jesus that are in Judea because two
suffered the same things from your own countrymen, as they
in fact did from the Jews, who killed both the
Lord Jesus and the Prophets and persecuted us. So really
they were displeasing to God or opposed to all people.
I had a Catholic scholar on my radio broadcasts some
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years ago. He said, yes, the Jews killed Christ, and
the Jews are displeasing to God. I said, can you
say that about all Jews, all generations right up to
the present time. Yes, the Jews killed Christ. The Jews
are Christ killers, and they are displeasing to God. To
read in another translation, for you, brothers and sisters became
imitators of God's communities in Mesia Yeshua that are in Judea.
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For you suffered the same things at the hands of
your own countrymen as they did from the Judean leaders
who killed both the Lord Yashu and the Prophets and
drove us out there and not pleasing the God, hostile
to all people. In other words, they're leaders in Judea, youth, Asalonians,
you're suffering from your own countrymen. We're suffering from our
own countrymen too, these bad apples, these leaders in Judea.
They were responsible for the death of Jesus, killing the
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prophets sent to them, persecuting us. You're suffering from your
own people, and those people displeasing to God. That's what
he's talking about. Those who can read Greek. There you
have it. You said it looks like Greek to me, Well,
there it is. But just notice, okay, it mentions in
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the second line the congregations of God, all right, and
then it says.
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In red and tell you Daya in Judea.
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And then look at the end, who pop tone you
die on from the Judaeans.
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You see, it's the same root.
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The same word, you die, You die on the people
of Judah.
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We're suffering from them.
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These people are due to these leaders in Judah that
were these bad apples.
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Displease it.
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He's talking about a particular group of people living in
a particular place who did particular things.
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Not all Jews of all time. But you see these
very verses.
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You'll see them quoted left and once you start getting
active on social media on these subjects or following posts
that will come up. As Pastor of lad and I
talk about these things, you'll just see these verses pop
up over and over and over.
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So what do we do? How do we respond?
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And I'll make this very quick again you can review
the notes. And above all, this is a heard issue
before coming out here for the second service of just
been praying. God, speak through me, open eyes, speak through me,
Speak through me. It's not about me being Jewish, it's
not about this church having a heart for Israel. This
is about spiritual truth. So how do we respond? First,
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we recognize that first and foremost, this is a spiritual
battle to be fought with prayer fasting in the world.
That's the only way change is going to come. It's
a spiritual battle. And I hate to say, you're going
to be shocked by what you continue to see happen
in America, even among professing Christians.
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We have to fight this spiritually.
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Second, we align ourselves with God and love what he
loves and hate what he hates. God, give me your heart,
sure your heart, your perspective with me. Third, we educate
ourselves and push back against the darkness of lies by
speaking to truth with pati and some perseverance. Don't get
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caught up in social media feeding frenzies. Don't get caught
up in personality cult wars.
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Step back.
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I can't tell you how many things I commented posted
email that I wish I had waited. Step back, Pray Lord,
how can I reach out? How can I overcome evil
with good? I had a guy religious Jew go after
me online the other day. I spotted it, nasty attack
on me. Actually went to his YouTube channel and saw
he had some great videos exposing anti Semitism in church history.
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And I wrote to him and said, hey, despite those differences,
those are tremendous videos. Thank you for posting them. I
deeply appreciate it, and I'll help.
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Get the word out.
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He wrote back, I apologize if anything I.
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Said offended you. Now you don't always get responses.
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Like that, but let's do our best. Number four, we
demonstrate God's love to Jew and Muslim alike, to Israelis
and Palestinians, well as to white supremacist black supremacists, to
the left.
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And to the right.
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I don't identify primarily as a conservative or the right.
I identify as a follower of Jesus because the Kingdom of
God is of a whole different nature. I don't have
to defend where the Republican leader says, because I don't
identify as a Republican, even though I may vote a particularly.
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That's not my identity.
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I don't have to defend if I voted Demo. I
don't have to defend what a democratic leader would say.
I have to defend what some scripture and what God's
principles are. So let's align ourselves with that that kingdom
will come in conflict with every earth. The ideology, and
in five we preach Jesus Yeshua as the Messiah of
Israel and the savior of the world. Jews need Jesus,
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Muslims need Jesus. Hypocritical Christians need Jesus, Atheists need Jesus.
We go back to preaching the Gospel and keep our
focus where it needs to be. If you say I
I would like to have more of God's heart for Israel,
I'd like to have more of his burden and friends,
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the greatest need we have is we're in the front
lines of reaching Jewish people with the Gospel.
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This is prayer, it's prayer, But.
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I want whatever God's heart is on this matter, I
want to have it.
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I want to be part of it.
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I want to be one of those that's on the
walls praying for God's purposes, whatever those purposes are. Again,
it's not being anti Palestinian or anti as being pro
God and his purposes. If you say I want more
of God's heart, would you stand to your feet and
I just want to pray for you, just want to
pray for you. I know everyone's standing, but as you stand,
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do it because you mean it, not just because the
person next you stood. I would much rather you sat
because you don't agree with me, or you have to
process this, or if you're watching online, I got to
think about this.
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That's fine.
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But for those that have stood, those watching online, just
put your hand on your heart.
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That's the right for you to do.
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Father, I ask afresh, share your heart with us. Break
our hearts with the things that break your heart, shatter
our indifference, cut through the wrong understandings, the misperceptions, the
ways that we've been brainwashed by this world from every side.
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And may our minds and hearts be washed afresh with
your word, with your truth. May our hearts break as
yours for the lost sheep of the House of Israel.
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May you share your burden.
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With us that we can pray effectively and be watchmen
on the wall until that day when all Israel is saved.
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We thank you for it in Jesus name. Just go
ahead and thank him.
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Thank you Lord, thank you Father, thank you Lord, Thank
you Lord, Thank you Lord. I'm believing for an ongoing
train action, not just a momentary prayer.
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Thank you Lord.
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Don't be surprised if God burdens you in surprising ways.
Don't be surprised when it happens because you're prayed for
it and it's a very intense spiritual but it's the
ultimate spiritual battle.
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Think of this.
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The same demons that crucified Jesus are active today. Think
of that Jerusalem is the ultimate battleground.
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