Tribulation // End Times Part 1 // Pastor Vlad

Pastor Vlad teaches the rising cost of following Jesus and how to endure trials with faith and courage. Learn God’s plan from Genesis to Revelation and the hope of His kingdom.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Hungry Gen podcast and I just want to
thank you for joining us today here at HG. Our
vision is to see thousands say locally and millions globally.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
We hope you enjoyed this week's message.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Before I go into the message, I do wanted to
make a statement as a church and Charlie Kirk, who
was thirty one years of age, founded a Turning Point
usay in twenty twelve, is actually one of the most
influential student movements in the United States that was pivotal
in bringing a lot of younger men and younger people

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to Christian faith. And on September tenth, which is a
day before September eleventh, he was assassinated while teaching in
preaching debating in the Utah University. So this happened just
a few days ago. A lot of us are with grief,

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heavy hearts come to church. There was a vigil yesterday
in Richland and Queens Gay by the Starling restaurant. And
so I want to just take a few moments and
address this why this feels heavy though people die every
single day, people die for Christ every single day, but
this thing what happened to Charlie hit us home. Now.

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I understand some pastors and leaders today are going to
bury their head in the sand and just pretend this
didn't happen when eighty five percent the ninety percent of
their congregation is heavy with that grief. We are not
that church, and we are not afraid not only to
talk about it, we're not afraid to support, celebrate, and
honor the life of our brother who stood for truth,

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who preached the good news unapologetically, and and we will
not say, oh, but we didn't agree with everything and
all of this stuff, that stuff does not exist here.
He was bold, he loved God, he preached the truth,
He made people feel uncomfortable. He was a husband, he

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was a father, and he was a Christian who happened
to be an American, not the other way around. Who
was an American who happens to be a Christian. And he
made it very clear why this hits home for us
and why I'm going to take next few moments and
talk about it. Because he rallied over two hundred thousand
people to go in colleges and to push against he

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believed and I believe with him as well, at demonic
agenda to penetrate through lies, our students. He went to
campuses week in week out, when he was only eighteen
years of age. He would set up, attend and go
and talk to students. He didn't yell at them, he
didn't harm them. He engaged with them. Guess what hungry
gend does in twenty schools every week we do exactly

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the same. We go into schools. We then set up
our sound system, we talk about Jesus, we engage with students.
And so what this brother did on the scale that
only one day, if God gives us grace, he did it.
And not only he did it, he did it boldly.
He was effective. He was an incredible communicator, he was

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an incredible debater, a smart guy, and he loved his country,
he loved his family, he loved the church, and he
loved the truth. And so he was assassinated while doing it.
It had this incident happened in some kind of a
dark alley, it would have been one thing. But this
happened publicly. This happened in front of three thousand students.

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I think the enemy is trying to also use this
to send the message to every Christian who wants to
be outspoken about their faith and say hey think twice,
Hey be scared. And the reason why I'm highlighting that
today in front of the church is to tell us
that Charlie wouldn't want us to do that. Number one,
Jesus wouldn't want us to do that. Number two and

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number three is that listen, everyone is coming out of
the closets. Everybody is being outspoken, and it's time for
Christians not to hide in fear, not to retreat in cowardness,
but to stand up, speak the truth. Not to be afraid. Parents.
I understand this is painful also to see because here

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we're sending students. We're telling our kids speak for your faith.
Just stand up for the for the truth, you know,
defend the little guy, stand up, you know, against the bullies.
And here we have this report. The other thing that
this all of this pains to us is American needs
a revival among the youth. There is a revival that's happening.

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We see an crazy number of young men showing up
back to church. In fact, it's a spike of young
people coming back to Christian faith. In spite of that,
you have to remember the guy that shot Charlie was
twenty two. The guy that took a shot at President
Donald Trump was twenty since the Columbine shooting. The ages

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of people that have been responsible for over one hundred
and forty four death and five hundred and eighty five
injuries have been seventeen eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two,
twenty one, seventeen eighteen. It's all been young people. Young
people are looking for purpose. Young people have become the
target of the demonic kingdom. To poison them with lies

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of this culture, of this wicked world, Arm them with violence,
arm them with hate, arm them with all of these things.
And this is the field God wants us to reach,
not shy away from. It is dangerous. It is not
safe right now to be an outspoken Christian in the
United States. The price for discipleship just went up in America.

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My friend, Let's be willing to pay for it. Let's
be willing not to wipe walk away from the battlefield.
Let's be willing to engage with one another. This is
not a nation where violence is okay. Political violence is okay.
This is a nation of dialogue. Christians are called to
be light and sold in the market place. And today,
this week, we've seen with somebody who lived this out

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receive that heavy attack on his life, why it also
hits personally, And to be honest with you, with me
and my wife in the last three days, I have
not experienced this with a lot of public deaths. I
didn't know him personally. I didn't know Charlie personally. His
team reached out to me earlier this year of coordinating

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for Charlie to speak at Hungry Jen in November. He
was planning to come to Tri Cities and around this area,
and so I just said, if we get a new building,
we would love to have him. You know, I value
what he stands for, and I want our youth to
be inspired. I want our clubs to see that example
and say, listen, he went to schools and was not popular.
He didn't go into make a name, and we're going

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to schools to preach the good news and whatever hate
we get, we love on people and we speak the truth.
And so I saw that as an inspiration. Unfortunately, that
did not happen with him coming and he was gone
too soon. His team, the same team reached out this
week and they also send a video which we're going
to play in just a moment, and they said Hey,
if you want to honor his legacy and just to

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inspire students to be bold for Jesus Christ on the campuses,
you can play this video and we will do that
in just a moment. We're going to be praying also
for his wife, and we're going to be praying for
his son and for his daughter that the Lord will
come for them. Why it hit me differently is, you know,
I go to the room in the morning and Sammy
says Papa, and I'm thinking, you know, I put myself

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in his shoes, his wife's shoes in the family. Because
I'm a public figure. I go to events that are large.
I go to events where not everybody likes me, and
there is You can YouTube my name if you really
want to feel depressed, and you will find a lot
of very bad clips of people who just don't like me.

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And I'm okay with that. I in fact not only
okay with that. A long time ago, I made a
decision I'm ready to die for Jesus. But now what
I have a hard time. I'm not ready to leave
my son. I'm not ready to leave my wife. And
this hit differently because here is the person that was
trying to tell people about the Lord was trying to

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also propagate ideas that are very conservative. And he had
two young children and a young wife, and it's different
when you have a young family. You relate differently, so
that the burden is heavy. Now I understand some of
you maybe watch his life and everything and you're like,
you know what, I don't fully agree and everything. I'm

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leave that alone. We're not here for that today. What
we are here for today for is to extract lessons.
And that is He lived courageous. He was a Christian,
He was a father, he was a husband, he was
a patriot. He loved the church and preached the good
news unapologetically. He went to places most of us would
have our tail between our legs to even think about going.

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And he went there week in and week out. He
didn't need to do that. He didn't need to show
up the universities to challenge students about the lies. He
cared about this nation, cared about the youth, and cared
about people holding to traditional biblical Judeo Christian values and
that we honor and us being in campuses, us sending
our students there, us seeing wanting to see revival. That

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was an example, he died like a martyrer. But I
believe that though the enemy wanted to silence the messenger,
it cannot silence the message. We will not be bullied
in the silence. We will rise up and encourage, stand
up for what we believe, and pay the price of
being censored, canceled, ridiculed, made fun of, or name labeled.

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But we will still walk after the Lord no matter
what the price. Let's watch the video that their team
send for the church, the churches who want to honor
his legacy and a life of boldness.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
We're acting them about fifteen campuses and we're growing very
very quickly. And keep in mind, this is not just
a flash and the pan movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand up and let their voice be heard.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I started this.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Organization when I was eighteen years old. I decided not
to go to college. I didn't get in my dream school,
which was the United States Military Academy at West Point.
I have this idea to galvanize and motivate the future
youth of this country around a core set of ideas,
not just political parties or politicians, and the ideas are
really America is the greatest country in the history of
the world. Constitutions, the greatest political document ever written in
free enterprise, the most sued way to lift people out

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of poverty and create prosperity for all. Those are the
three big ideas, and I think that's something.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
That can win.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
We as Christians are called to go into the public
arena to correct error with truth. So I go to
college campuses and there's a lot of error. We're all sinners,
we are all living error. I'm far more interested in
what God wants of me that what I want from God.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too. You have worked so hard, and I
know a lot of you have seen obviously his video
is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus,
but no one gets to see him from my angle

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except for myself and our children. Fuck with and the
sacrifices that he made this year. He's amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'm very blessed, and I would not have been able
to do any of it without Erica. And that's the
real truth. I'll tell you what you are here as
a grassroots response to the top down revolution happening in
this country. I want our Turning Point USA students to
receive a round of applause. These are the freedom fighters
of America.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game. They weren't experienced, They didn't know.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Charlie Ray, this is.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
The greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation is the
most conservative generation that we have seen and well over
fifty years, and the numbers show it. What young people
especially are screaming at is they say, give me a
structure that I can live my life by, and especially

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with young men, more challenging of them, more saying you
know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk down to you.
Stop being a boy and become a man. You want
to learn what that means, Come to church and I'll
tell you what it means to become a man, because
we have the greatest story ever told. What can I
do to save the country? You answer that question every
single day because you are doing the work to save

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this beautiful republic. You are doing something that is bigger
than you.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
If everything completely goes away, how do you want to
be remembered?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
for courage from my faith. That would be the most
important thing.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Most important thing is my faith, my life. I want
you to rise to His organization's name is called churning point.
I do believe that the Lord wants to bring a
shift in our generation and there to be a churning point.

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Let's pray for his wife, Erica. Let's pray for two
of their children. Let's pray for their ministry, their organization,
that there will be a churning point. You saw what
happen after this death, prayer, vigils went up. Did you
see one burned building?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Did you see riots? No prayer, People went back to church.
You see people posting said, I'm gonna pick up my Bible.
I'm gonna give my life to Christ. When the Saint,
when the when the person that lived for Christ dies,
it sparks yes, anger, yes grief, But people turn to
the Lord. We don't to vengeance. We don't turn to
our best vengeance is revival, revival for our youth, Revival

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for our schools. Let's pray for their family, Let's pray
for our youth, and let's pray for our nation. Lord,
we thank you for his life. We thank you for
the message that was being echoed. We thank you for
the principalities they were being challenged, for the mindsets there
were being challenged, strongholds they were being brought down. We
thank you for what we've seen with the youth in
our generation already, where they've been churning to the good

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message of Jesus Christ. They've been showing up the churches.
We thank you what we've been seeing in schools in
the last three years. Lord, we thank you for people
that pay the price of breaking through those barriers. Right now,
we lift up Erica. We lived up for God, his wife.
We lived up right now his son and his daughter.
We pray that there will be a heavenly covering of protection,

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of comfort, of your peace that passes understanding. We pray
for the staff of the churning point of the US,
churning Point USA. We pray right now, Lord that this
moment of the young people saying yes to Jesus is
gonna go even further. That after this or got more
people will rise up. Lord. When the enemy thought he
could silence this, Lord, I pray that millions of voices

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begin to raise up all around the United States, churning
this generation back to repentance, churning this generation back to Jesus,
reminding each and every one of us that life is short,
and to live for ourselves is the foolish thing, but
to live for Jesus is the most important thing. We
pray for our youth. Right now, we pray for students
in colleges. We pray for students in middle school and

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high school. God, that you will arrest our hearts with
your love, that you will bring them to repentance. That
you will use us to be bold, that we will
not cover in fear, but we will walk in courage
and boldness. Lord. And most importantly, right now, we pray
for our nation. Would you save our nation. Would you
bring Americans back to Your Lord? Would you help us
to not just only have the freedom of religion, freedom

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of speech, but have us freedom from saying, Lord, we
will repent for the sins of our our nation. We
ask you to have mercy on our nation and our
president and our governor, on the local officials. God, that
you will protect our nation, that you will prosper our nation,
That you will give our nation peace, Lord God, and
that not only that God will bless America, but that
America will bless God. In Jesus' name, Amen, you may

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be seated. In the last month, we've noticed a tragic
thing in this world. The world we live in is beautiful, yes,
it's yet it broke. It's broken. Just last month and
the Catholic church men opened fire, killing two children injuring
more than twenty people in Charlotte, North Carolina. A Ukrainian

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girl twenty three years of age escaping the worn torn
Kiv to come to the States, only to be stabbed
by a guy. A six point zero magnitude earthquake just
hid Afghanistan few weeks ago, killing over one thousand, one
hundred people and injuring over three thousand, two hundred people,
destroying eight thousand homes. A landslide that buried a village

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in Sudan and over one thousand, five hundred people were lost,
not including flash flood that happened in India or wildfire
that happened in France. Everywhere you look, the message is
the same. The world is fractured, the world is fragile,
and the world is filled with pain. It's beautiful, but

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it's broken. The Bible is the only book that gives
not only a right diagnosis of world's pain, but gives
a cure and the hope of its redemption. The Book
of Genesis tells us where the problem begun, The Gospels
the Good News about Jesus tells us what God did

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to address the problem, and the Book of Revelation the
End Times tells us of what God promised to fix
the problem in our world. Our God is aware of
the human suffering. He's not only aware, he diagnosed it correctly.
In the beginning, the Bible says that God tells us
that our problem was not in justice in our institutions.

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Our problem was not our mental health. Our problem wasn't
God's knives or stones. Our problem was the problem without heart.
It was a sin in our heart. The culture seeks
to diagnose the brokenness of our world by blaming systems,
by blaming tools that are used to inflict pain, by
blaming trauma in our past, by blaming our low self esteem,

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by blaming poverty, and all of this stuff. Because when
you reject the Bible and the Biblical truth, you will
have to use the symptoms to think that they are
the root problem. See sin is not a bug in
the system. Sin is a virus in the heart. The
problem is deeper than in the systems that men build.

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The problem is deeper than the poverty. The problem is
deeper than the violence. The problem is it's within the
heart of a human being. The men that executed and
the shot and assassinated Charlotte Kirk he was in the state.
There was conservative in the university that was predominantly conservative.
That tells us that the evil is in the heart

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of man, whether they use a gun and knife a stone,
whether they're mean, whether they push violence out. And as Christians,
we have to have a biblical worldview. Evil is not
a gun issue. It is not a system issue. It
is deeper than that. It is a heart of a
human issue. What did God came to do about that issue.

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He didn't come first to change the system. He didn't
come first to remove the poverty. He didn't come first
to remove the trauma of our past and all of
the bad things. He came first to deal with the root,
and that is the heart. Jesus came, He took on
the human nature. He suffered a innocent death. He took

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our sin to remove the evil in our hearts. See,
government can restrain the evil, only Jesus can remove it.
The laws can restrict it, only Jesus can redeem it.
The Gospel, the good News, didn't come to fix the system,
the nation, to the world, the nature. It came to

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fix the most important thing to God, and that is
the human heart. And once that is fixed, now Jesus
promises through the prophets and through the Gospels in the
Book of Revelation, the day is coming and God will
deal with the symptoms of the evil in the world.
He will wipe every tear out of our eyes. He
will remove sickness, he will remove curse, he will remove violence.

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Even there will be no more night. The sun will
shine all the time, and there will be no more
on because Jesus will be its light. I want to
tell you something. The good News of Jesus Christ is
not only we know the real problem. We have a
solution and we have a hope of when God will
make things right. If you're watching the violence, if you're

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watching the pain, if you're seeing the axids, this sickness,
if you're seeing the things you can't explain, and your
heart is heavy and it doesn't feel right, my friend,
you are right. You are echoing the Christ of the
creation that groans for the redemption of the children of God.
God not only feels your pain. God did something about it.
He sent Jesus to die for the pain, the evil,

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the war in our heart, to redeem us. This God
is not sitting there and warming up his hands. When
the world is suffering. He says, I am coming back,
and I will make everything right. The justice will be served,
righteousness will be established, Peace will be like a river
that will flood our streets. That will be no more violence,

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There will be no more suffering, and there will be
no more pain. And that day is called the day
of the Lord, when Jesus is coming back. This is
not wishful thinking, but this is the reality of hope
that Christians live with. Amen. Now, between Jesus's first coming,
which dealt with the root problem, which is the heart,

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the sin, nature the sin, and Jesus's second coming, which
will deal with the rest of the problems in the world,
this season is called the last days. This season is
called and times. And times are not only a few
years before the bad boy Antichrist is coming. The end.

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Times are not only when things are just gonna get
super crazy right before Jesus is coming. The Bible says,
in the last days, I will put out my spirit.
Last day started when the spirit was poured out. Jesus
said that. In Hebrews it says that God, when the
last days, spoke through his son. So when Jesus came
on earth to speak the word of God, that was

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the start of the last days. Now I believe we're
living in the last of the last of the last
of the last of the last days. We're living very,
very very close to the coming of Jesus Christ. But
may eyes submit to you. Every generation before you thought
the same thing. So this is not to say relaxed
every person. When Hitler came on the scene, when communism

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came on the scene, when all of the other stuff
came on the scene, everybody thought that's it. Next few moments,
preachers even got up and said, if you're going to
be left behind, this is what you do. We're still here.
So this is to say, we are living in the
last days. How close to the coming of Jesus Christ.
We know it's closer today than it was yesterday. How

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close we don't know. The second thing that I want
to highlight is the last day is This does not
mean the end of the world. It means the end
of this present age. The Bible splits the world's history
to two main eras, this age which Jesus talked about.
In this age, people get married, are given into marriage.
This age is under the rule of Satan, and then

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the age to come, which is going to be really
consummated when Jesus returns and brings his kingdom on this earth.
I truly believe, and a lot of scholars and Bible
teachers believe that these two ages are overlapping right now,
because when Jesus came, he said that this kingdom that's coming.

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All the Jews were expecting the king from the line
of David to bring the Messianic reign of peace and
prosperity to come. And Jesus says, you're getting a teaser
of this kingdom right now, when the sick are being healed,
the dead are being raised, the seas are being stopped,
the storms are being stopped. Why because in that kingdom
there's gonna be no sickness, and that kingdom, there's gonna

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be no more death. In that kingdom, there's gonna be
no earthquakes. There's gonna be no floods, there's gonna be
no fires destroying our homes. Jesus saying, I'm bringing that
kingdom and giving you a teaser of that kingdom. So
I truly believe the Age to Come already started in
the hearts and the lives of people. Why because eternal

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life doesn't start when you die. Eternal life starts when
you believe in Jesus Christ. You don't get eternal life
when you die. You get eternal life when he died,
and you accepted his death as your gift. So his
kingdom lives inside of us. And we are in the
overlapping of these two ages, this age full of evil

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and the Age to come. And what's happening at the
day of the Lord, when Jesus will come, is it
will be the end of this age and beginning of
the new age, the Age to Come, which means the
end of age is just the beginning of what's to come.

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Number three, and that is the end time are more
about enduring than escaping Matthew twenty four of Verus eight.
It says all these are but the beginning of the
birth pains in Matthew twenty four, verses nine through thirteen.
It says, then they will deliver you up to tribulation
and kill you, and you will be hated by all

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nations for my name's sake. And then many will be offended,
will betray one another, and will hate one another. It
seems like somebody is just quoting the news today. Then
many false prophets will rise up to deceive many, and
because of the lawlessness that will abound, the love of
many will grow cold. But he who endures to the
end shall be saved. So Jesus in Matthew twenty four

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answer three questions, when will there be a destruction of Jerusalem?
He made it very clear from the beginning that it's
gonna happen within that generation. And then he answered the
second question, is the signs of the end times? Which
I mentioned, is started from him coming on this earth,
and it will end when he returns back. These are
the last days, These are the end times, and he

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explained to us the signs of that. He answered the
third question, which I will address next Sunday, is the
sign one sign of his coming. Signs are of end times.
There's only one sign of his next, of his coming,
and that is for next Sunday. For this Sunday, though,
we're gonna deal with the end times. I want you

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to notice when Jesus talked about the end times, when
he told his followers about the season they're about to
go through, there's one word kept repeating to them and
the early Church, the early Church fathers. And if you
are following this message on new version Bible app which
I will encourage you to save the notes there because
it goes into the detail of all the early Church
father quotes and things that I will just brush off

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quickly are all explained there. Jesus talked about enduring. Now
what I'm about to step into is all truck controversial. Also,
I understand that many of you here more subscribe and Geen.
Not only Christians in the West subscribe to pre tribulation view. Now,

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someone who said pre what tribulation? What? Let me give
you just a basic overview. There are pors. There are
Christians who believe that we will be raptured to be
with the Lord before hell breaks loose of seven years
and we will be in heaven. Then we'll come back
with Jesus after all the hell is gonna done. And
Jesus will set everything right. It's called pre tribulation. Then

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there's the mid tribulation who believe that Antichrist will come
and is seen do his dirty work under disguise as
a prince of peace, and three and a half years
into it, then his mask is gonna come off. And
right when his mask comes off, we will pretty much
go to heaven get raptured, and then we'll come back
right at the end with Jesus to rescue Israel from

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the war that they're gonna have and pretty much beat
the bad boy and send him back to help to
Lake of Fire. And then there's a view, and that
is this that Jesus is coming only one time, second
time at the end, and that this end, when he's coming,
will be a combination of many factors. One is the

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early Christian The Christians will be raised from the dead
who died. Those who are Christians in the middle of
this season that is very dark will get instantly raptured
to meet him. Their faces, their bodies will be changed.
Jesus will stand and come in Jerusalem defend Israel against
its enemies. Like it says, it will fulfill the prophecies

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of the Old Testament and the people will be raised
from the dead and et cetera. Now, majority of believers
outside of the West do not believe that Christians will
be secretly raptured before hell breaks loose. Now I'm when
I submit that to you, have traveled around the world

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and I can tell you that to be a fact.
Jo are you of people in the West and probably
most of you here who maybe even didn't dive too
deep into that, and you're like, honestly, I don't believe
in pre trip, post trip, mid trip. I'm a poone
trip meaning however a pen trip, however it pans out.
I'm just gonna be like in past to tell me

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which trips should I be on. So I just want
to tell you something that I hope to not go
through that at all, but I'm prepared, and I want
you to be prepared if it happens. Very high chance
that you're not gonna go through it is gonna still

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take few hundred years, or there's a chance this might happen.
Now I'm gonna submit to you something that three years
ago rocked my world. When I came to the United States.
I grew up in a teaching where suffering for Jesus
was normal and when a big bad boy Antichrist will come.
We were as teenage. I remember, I was like, ten

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years of age planning with my neighbor, how are we
gonna hide in the woods from the Antichrist? Like we
already had a strategy. Where are we gonna get our food?
Because I'm like, he's gonna get the chip and we're
not gonna accept the chip because we worship Jesus and
we will see how long can we last before he
kills us. We're ten years of age planning our endtime

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strategy against the Antichrist. I come to the United States
and majority of the teaching from the television and now
the YouTubers of the famous preachers are like, no, the
church is not gonna go through that. I'm not gonna
lie to you. I was like, I like that. I
like that. My neighbor was wrong. We're not gonna be

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hiding in the forest. We're getting out of here. I
need to tell the rest of the world. And then
you go to the rest of the world and you
realize they're like, what do you mean we're getting out
of it? Why is God not protecting us now? Where
we're being slaughtered, abused, and killed. They're like, well, I
don't know why, but the last generation, right before, seven
years before the Second Coming, he promises to take all
of us out. He didn't take us out for two

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thousand years. We were killed, eaten by lions, and destroyed
and said in jail. But now he's gonna really take
us out. Why because this is the season God is
this gonna get mad at the devil and go on
the devil and we are saved from that. That's what
I believed. Three years ago. I go to a vacation
with my wife in Florida, and I did something that

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nobody should do on their vacation. I picked up a
book called I'm Not Afraid of Antichrist. I don't know
what got into my head to read a book like that.
It's written by a Hebrew scholar and a New Testament scholar,
one of them I know personally now. And I read
that and my whole world got wrought. So I'm gonna
give you in seven minutes what took me seven days

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to digest. If someone you will feel like you'll be
drinking water from the fire hose. I apologize. Tick up
that book, read it. It will help you and follow
the notes in this stuff. And what shattered me at
that vacation was this not legitimate Bible scholar believes in
the Western idea of secret escape before the craziness happens. Secondly,

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every scripture I use to defend that position is out
of context. And I felt like a bottom fell from
under my feet, to the point my wife is on
the beach chilling, and I'm with my Bible in the hotel,
and I said, I can't believe this. I can't believe this.
I can't believe this. So before I got up in
front of the church to say this, it took me
three years to be sure. I'm not spitting this out.

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Because I watched the video, I took some time to study.
It took some time to look into it, and I
do believe with confidence that it is most biblical, historically
accurate position that the church should be prepared to endure
instead of secretly hope to escape. Now, I'll give you
the points in just a moment, but let me give

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you an example. This will bring home for you. My
wife a year in and a half ago gave birth
to a baby boy, Samuel. When she was pregnant I've
seen her to go to discomfort. I've seen her cry
at night because this side hurt, that side hurt. The
baby was pushing on these organs, which caused one thing.

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Then they pushed another organ, caused another thing that she
does not give me permission to share. And then when
it got close to giving birth, something contraction started. And
it's these things. They come suddenly and they build up
with intensity. And then on Sunday night we rushed to
the hospital and we were there for three days, and

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she started dilating, and it was hard and it was difficult,
but there was a sense of expectation of hope that
something so good is coming that it's worth every discomfort
and every pain. So the Bible actually presents the end
times with the view of birth pain. He's the set

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in Matthew twenty four. He says the beginning, So all
of this antime chaos. He says, this is the beginning
of Sorrow's new king. James version es V says the
beginning of a birth pain. All Testament prophets talked about
Israel going through the sorrow. Jacob talking about Isil going
through sorrow right before their Messiah is coming back and

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it used this verse, use this terminology of birth pain.
Every mother understands. It's the contractions. They build up, they
become frequent, they become intense. It's this comfortable, but you're
enduring all of that because of a baby that's about
to be born. That is how the Bible paints the
old the last days. It says to the Church and

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to Israel, this is not a time Antichrist sixty sixty six, war, famine,
are just the pregnancy and discomfort. All the bad things
are about to happen are just contractions that are building
in its intensity. But our hope is not to get
out of it as soon as possible, but get something

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at the end of it, which is the coming of
the Messiah. A month ago I had a different experience
with my wife, and this was passing kidney stones. When
she gave birth to a baby, there was a pain
with purpose, expecting life. When she passed kidney stones, the

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pain was without purpose, and it didn't give birth to anything.
It delivered nothing. And the Lord reminded me, he said,
my church has a view of end times like the
church will pass kidney stones. Oh, oh God, remove me
from it, take me away from it. That's not biblical.

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Biblical view is the pain we endure. And whether you
believe you're gonna skip the pain or not, you're already
in some sort of pain now. And Church is only
getting worse. But see when the woman is pregnant and
it comes closer, that baby is getting bigger. Discomfort's getting higher,

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but the joy antssipation is coming there. Church. The end
times is not we're trying to pass a kidney stone.
Let's just trying to get out of this. The end
times is that we're anticipating the gloria is coming over
our Lord Jesus Christ, who is coming with his church.
He is coming with the saints, with the heavenly army.

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He will finally make everything all right. Does tribulation hurt?
Does persecution hurt? Of course it does. But the joy
we're looking forward to. That's why this idea that I
had before that they'll submit to you. I had an

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idea of end times that had to do with passing
kidney stones. I was hoping, I'm just gonna get out
of it as soon as possible and then come back
with Jesus. My idea shifted studying the scripture, studying the
Jewish idea of the end times, studying scholars, going through
Bible school and looking at all of these scriptures. I
know it's not popular, and I do know, Samo, you
might be upset or I'm like, man, I don't believe

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in that. You can't believing all you want. But there's
one thing you gotta do, is you gotta be ready
to endure. Amen, you gotta be ready to endure. Now.
I went to the hospital and when my wife three
days was there in labor pain, it wasn't fun. I
was suffering with her. Now, she will slap this thing

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out of me. If I'm gonna say that it was
as painful for me as it was for her, because
it was not. In fact, when she gave birth, I
was invited to cut the umbilical cord and I was
so brave going in into the hospital. I was thinking
him like, man, I'm gonna be a man. I'm gonna
even take a selfie with it. When they pulled the

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baby out and they was so joyful. I was so
scared of seeing that tiny little one that we've been
hoping and expecting for so long, and the nurses started
to beat him like I know it's normal. He was
supposed to make the baby cry. I'm looking as like
Charlie's bab and I'm like, oh, don't do that. That's
my boy. They're like, we want to make him cry. No,

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I don't want to make him cry. And I was
standing there for about three minutes. They're doing all of
this stuff to kind of wake him up, to wake
all the breathing up, his vocal cords up. And then
they're like, you want to come to cut the umbilical cord.
And it's five o'clock. I've been awake all night. I
am like, not all in my own mind and body,
and I'm studying there. I'm seeing blood and all the

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like this kind of weird thing that's connecting to his stomach.
I was so brave when I went to the hospital
and guys, I'm here to admit I chickened out. I
couldn't cut it. Only I couldn't cut them Biblical court.
I fainted right away. This is the bad part. My

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wife didn't faint. So I left that and he was saying,
you know, I suffered as much as my wife, and
I can only say that because she's not in the service.
But I didn't suffer as much as my wife. So
what I'm trying to tell you is this be prepared
to endure. Now we can disagree, and I know this

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is a very strong position, and today I don't have
the time right now on the clock to go through
all of that, but I'm just gonna quickly read just
the major statements that made me change how I view
the end times from the passing the kidney stones to
more like a birthing a child and its contractions and
its hardship. And that is one Jesus spoke of end
times not as a hope of escape, but as a

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call to endure. Escaping is actually, and don't be offended
if I call the pre trip position escaping. Escaping is
a new popular doctrine that wasn't helped by the Church
for eighteen high hundred years. John Darby, John Nelson Darby
actually in eighteen thirty is the one that made it
very popular early Church aschathology. And in your notes you

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see all the writings from the early Church fathers from
the beginning to about Augustine. They actually saw the end
times as being hard for the church, the church enduring
it and then seeing the joy of their King Jesus
writhing and making everything right. It's kind of like when
you give birth to a baby, you forget about all
the pain because you have joy. That's how they saw it,

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That's how the Church always seen it. That's how Christians
see it. Around the world except the West. The worst
same word Jesus used when he promised in this world
you will have tribulation is the very word that's used
for the great tribulation. Trials now and the trials to
come are under the same Jesus, who has already overcome.

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The Bible talks really about only one second coming, not two.
If Jesus comes seven years before and then he comes
again later, it's really two second coming, and that is
not a biblical stance. You'll never find that in the Bible.
Jesus came to save us from eternal wrath of God
revealed at the final judgment, not from the seven year

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tribulation experienced only by one single generation. Paul's word, translated
as wrath in the Salonians five nine, is the Greek
word for or jay, which is every occurrence of this
word in revelation is never connected to tribulation, but to
the judgment of God at the end of age upon

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the wicked and Satan. So tribulation is also not unique
to God's wrath. God pours out. God pours out his
wrath often we see, and it continues to be to
happen even right now. Scripture consistently shows that God doesn't
always remove people from trials or tribulation, often preserves them
through it. For example, Noah was preserved during the flood.

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God didn't take him to Heaven. Lod was relocated but
not raptured to Heaven, actually went to another city that
God was planning to destroy. Israel in Egypt stayed during
the plegues, and first few plagues affected Israel as much
as they affected Egyptians. The last few plagues, God showed
a difference between Israel and Egyptians. In Egypt, Rehab was

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protected by God while being in Jericho that was being
punished by God. Three Hebrew boys were protected by God
in the midst of the fire. Daniel was protected in
the lions. Then God didn't remove the lions or Daniel,
He simply protected him there. So God is able to
protect Christians even when Hell breaks loose, and we should

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not be afraid of that. Now. Some people say, well,
John was told to come up in the Book of
Revelation chapter four, and then there was no more mention
of the church in the Book of Revelation. That's not true.
The Saints are mentioned in the Book of Revelation during
the time when John was told to come up. When
John was told to come up to heaven, it actually
means what it says, John was asked to come up.

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It has nothing to do with church being raptured. The
most faithful reading of Revelation three ten, which is used
many times to justify that we will escape, and that
is that God will preserve us from the hour of
trial that is coming on earth. But that reading takes
the background of each church in the Book of Revelation
deals with the church age. But that is not a

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biblical proper Exe Jesus ex Jesus is when you extract
the meaning from the text. I see Jesus is when
you read the meaning into a text that it doesn't say.
Those seven churches are actually literal churches that existed in
that world. None of them were raptured, they all endured.
All seven churches were commended by Jesus to overcome, and

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that is still the message for the church. Today, to
overcome fear of men, overcome death, overcome persecution, overcome complacency,
and the last thing. This is the part that put
a nail in the coffin for me on the issue
of I'm not going to be on a secret trip
before help exclusion. And I understand. I have some good

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friends on mine who send me videos almost weekly on
what to do because I'm going to be left behind.
Some of them already said that they'll pass on their
church buildings after September twenty fourth or so, because that's
what Jesus supposed to be coming. And so I asked
them right away to give me their bank account informission too,
And I said, since you guys are leaving, I'm staying.

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So but I am saying this sarcastically. Okay, this is
not gonna happen like that. But this is the part
that caught me. In Revelations chapter twenty, it says that
those who refuse the mark of the Beast and refuse
to worship the Beast, the Bible says the beast was
given power to kill them for their testimony, and they died,
and then it says when Jesus were to return, they

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will raised from the dead, and then it says this,
this is the first resurrection. I'm a simple guy with
a simple mind. If this was the first resurrection after
they denied the worship of the beast, that means the
seven years before there's supposed to be a resurrection. For
those of us who's supposed to take a secret trip quickly,
there's gonna be no resurrection then, because the Bible says

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first resurrection happens at the coming of Jesus, after the Tribulation.
And I was like, there's no way that this can't
be like that. And as I started to dive in
deeper and deeper and understood that honestly, the lens that
I had on my eyes really borrowed from TBN preachers
left behind movies and a lot of people just in
the United States, that that is not historical, not actually biblical.

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And you may say, what difference does it make lie
that this is just a preference. This is the difference
that it makes if you're expecting to go into this
next season of the church history and that you won't
have to endure. Okay, it actually can weaken your resolve
as a Christian. Christians were always straw in the face
of trials, not just strong in hoping escaping them. Now,

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we were privileged in America to have freedom and we
need to fight to keep that freedom. But in case
every that freedom is taken away, Church, I want us
to be ready to live for Jesus, speak for Jesus,
suffer for Jesus if it needs to be, and even
if we need to give our life for Jesus, with
the hope he's coming back. With the hope He'll make

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everything right. And if you end up on the secret
trip before, I will be there too. I'm not stay behigh.
I promise you I'll take the shotgun. But in case
we don't, I promise you we will walk together for
the King, for the Gospel, and we will expect his

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second coming and before the end times. That about conquering,
not cowardness. In the end times, there will be three
kinds of people. The compromisers, the cowards, and the courageous
will conquer. We will not be compromisers. We will not
be cowards. We will be courageous. Number five, The end
time revolves around the whole world. This is important, But

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the focus of the end times is going to be Israel,
not America. Jewish is chatology specifically teaches and I confirmed
this with the Jewish scholar this week. So the things
that I'm presenting to you, I didn't pull up from
Chad gpt Or because I read my favorite prophecy book.
I try to also consult people that study this, that
breathe this and actually know this. This stuff and Jewish

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iskathology meaning the end time view, has few things in mind.
One of them is that there will be a return
of Jewish people to their land. They will be coming
of a Messiah from David's line, there will be a
final battle that will happen against Israel, the Temple will
be rebuilt, and these events will accommodate into the coming
of their Messiah, the dead. Jewish people believe the dead

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will be raised and the Jewish people from all around
the world to be supernaturally teleported through the cloud to
meet their Messiah as he's arriving back from heaven to
defend Israel against the enemy that will gather at the
Valley of Jahassafa. That's Jewish view. Why is that important,

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you may say, who cares what they believe? Oh, it's
very important. The Book of Revelation. The reason why Book
of Revelation is confusing is because it was written by
a Jewish guy who borrowed four hundred pictures from the
Old Testament prophets about n times. The only other book
that borrowed Old Testament analogies was Hebrews. That only did

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it one hundred times. Book of Revelation did it four
hundred times. Book of Revelation simply filled in the collars
and the puzzles that the framework was set by Isaiah, Daniel,
Jeremiah and other prophets. If you don't understand this Jewish
world view of the end Times, you will read into

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the End Times and into Book of Revelation, Western European
Antichrist world government and everything else. We have to be
faithful to the Bible, not faithful to our culture. America
is not the belly button of the Nd Time prophecies.
It is Israel. So what does this mean for us?

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Most of the pain of tribulation will be felt by Israel,
not the Church. Will we suffer one hundred percent? Will
we be affected one hundred percent? Who will be the
one actually birthing? That is Israel? So think of this.
I got this illustration this morning. My wife was going

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through the pregnancy, and so did I. In fact, I
don't like how they say it in America, but we're pregnant.
I was like, no, you're not only one of you
is pregnant. But in America we say that when both
people are expecting a baby, we're pregnant, meaning I'm just
a supportive husband. Wife is carrying the load. I'm gonna
paint you this picture. This is not theologically correct, but

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it will help you to kind of have an idea
what I'm talking about. Israel is pregnant with the husband.
The church is just walking alongside our Messiah that we're
expecting is our king. He's also Israel's King. The baby
I was expecting to hold is my wife's baby too.

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Now to her, that baby meant something different. She carried him,
she felt its kicks. For me. I was like, man,
it's gonna be awesome. So we both have the same baby,
but both of us walk through the process differently. Israel
will see a king and they will weep because that's
the one they wounded. They will go through tribulation the

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world has never seen. The world will become against them
at the last days in a way that has never
happened before Antichrist. Main beef is gonna be with Israel.
He hates Israel, he wants to destroy them. Why because
the feet of Jesus are not coming to Badger Mountain.
The feet of Jesus are gonna land on the mount

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of all lives. According to Zakaria chapter fourteen, the whole world,
the whole end Times is circling around the Middle East.
It is not around Europe, It is not around London,
it is not around New York, and it is not
around Moscow. Why is that important? Because we have to
think biblically about the end Times, not through the Western lens.
So does this mean h I'm not gonna suffer.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Not.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
So that's like a husband going into the delivery and saying,
you know what, my wife is really gonna be only
the one that's gonna suffer. And in Ukraine, what I
came from I found out from my mom the husbands
were not allowed to go to the delivery rooms, so
the wife went that alone and the husband had to
stay back. I so desire for that to be brought

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back to America. I told my wife, I'm like, come Ukrainian.
What if I leave the generational lineage, and you go
and deliver the baby. I will come back with the
car seats seven days later and pick you up. And baby,
I promise you'll have flowers for you. I'll have your
favorite chocolate. And my wife looked at me and she

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pulled me in and she said, you better not even
have those demonic evil thoughts in your head. You're going
with me in that hospital. You will hold my hand.
And I say, but I don't know what to do.
He says, you will be with me, and you will
suffer with me. So the church has a view of this,
Israel will go through this and we're just gonna be
like Ukraine escape. I want to submit to you biblically, historically,

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and scholarly. The view that's more dominant is that we
are gonna be like a husband, will walk alongside. We
will be affected, maybe not to the degree some places
when we will be affected. And this is why anti
Semitism has no place in the life of a Christian.
Because Jesus is coming back act to Israel. And lastly,

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the end times are about the expectation of his coming,
not the fear of the coming of Antichrist. And in
your notes you can read all of the other notes.
I think that's plenty for today. My big picture I
want to get out is this, don't live with fear
of what's coming, Endure fear, overcome fear, but expect the

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second Coming, the glorious returning God, making wrong things right,
punishing the enemy, judging the wickedness, and establishing his kingdom.
And you and I have the part of it. When
I went to the hospital with my wife, I didn't
walk with fear. Was I nervous or you bet I was,
But I was excited when I went with her with

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kidney stones, and she would faint in the car on
the way to Trious and start throwing up and faint
and throwing up. That was scary. And the Lord reminded
me this week to remind you when you're going through
what you're about to go through, Church, you're not passing
a stone. You're expecting the glorious coming of your King
Jesus come hell high water. We're not returning. We will

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not be afraid. We will not just seek to escape.
But if we need to endure, we will endure. It
needs to be. We will lay our life for the
Lord Jesus Christ. But he will come back. He will
make things right. He will bring you heaven and your earth,
and his kingdom will be established. It's already here, being
spread to us through schools and universities, but it's going
to become real thing soon and very soon. Maranatha, Come,

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Lord Jesus, Come, the church says, Come, the spear it
says come, because we are waiting for the return of
Jesus Christ. I want you to rise to your feet.

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