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December 19, 2025 31 mins
In this episode, Ben Farmer is joined by Simon Jones, Head of Responsible Investment here at Hymans and special guest John Hamilton, Chair of Trustees for the Stagecoach Group Pension Scheme, for a discussion on the unique journey of the Stagecoach pension scheme, recent industry dynamics and the practicalities of this transaction.

The conversation offers valuable lessons for trustees and those managing pension schemes in a changing landscape, as they cover topics such as: 





  • Key changes in the pensions industry and specific updates from the Stagecoach scheme over the past year.
  • How trustees have approached their responsibilities and the strategies considered to safeguard scheme members.
  • A deep dive into the transaction process, challenges faced, and solutions implemented.

We hope you enjoy listening. If you have any questions, on anything covered throughout the episode, please get in touch.

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Chapters: 
01.10 – Introduction 
01.55 – The growth/pensions relationship and quick history of the Stagecoach pension scheme
06.39 – Pensions industry dynamics and Stagecoach scheme developments in the past 12 months
09.14 – “Preserve, protect, enhance” and trustees exploring their options
13:57 – Practicalities of the Stagecoach-Aberdeen transaction
19.55 – Investment considerations for the framework that’s been put in place
25:08 – Learnings from the process and calls to action for the future
29.22 – Summary and wrap up


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This podcast has been prepared by Hymans Robertson LLP, and is based upon our understanding of events as at release date. It is designed to be a general summary of topical investment matters and is not specific to the circumstances of any particular employer or pension scheme. The information contained in this podcast should not be construed as advice and not be considered as a substitute for specific advice as the information is generic in nature. Where a podcast refers to legal matters please note that Hymans Robertson is not qualified to provide legal opinion and therefore you may wish to obtain independent legal advice to consider any relevant law and/or regulation. Hymans Robertson LLP accepts no liability for errors or omissions. Your Hymans Robertson LLP consultant will be pleased to discuss matters raised in this podcast in greater detail. Guests views are separate to that of Hymans Robertson.
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