July 26, 2025 • 34 mins
What if the biggest thing standing between you and abundance… is your nervous system? In this powerful episode of I Am Refocused Radio, we sit down with Abi—once a homeless foster child, now a money manifesting powerhouse who’s helped clients generate over $1.7 billion in just five years. As a single mom and transformational mentor, Abi shares how she helps people rewire their inner operating systems using neuroscience, polyvagal theory, quantum physics, and cutting-edge biology. This isn’t just about money—it’s about reclaiming your voice, your safety, and your future. Whether you’re stuck in survival mode or scaling your next empire, this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about worth, wealth, and transformation. 🎧 Tap in to hear:
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- How trauma silently blocks abundance
- Why your biology might be sabotaging your goals
- The science-backed tools Abi uses to upgrade lives from the inside out
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You are listening to I Am Refocused Radio with your
host Shamaiah Read. This show is designed to inspire you
to live your purpose and regain your focus. And now
here's your host, Shamaia Reid.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm talking to focus. Ready once again, we are here
today and we have another show. I know for y'all
today we're gonna be talking about money, so it was
a very easy show to talk about. But our guests today,
Abby Levine, she has a story that goes with that journey.
She is known as the Sovereign Architect. She went from
a homeless foster child to a self made entrepreneur doing
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a lot of things for a lot of clients and
from her bio says that she's made over one point
seven billion with her clients, so that's very impressive. She
has a lot of operating systems that she uses a
lot of methods to upgrade those systems with neuroscience, biology
and the things that we're going to get into. But
(01:01):
first and foremost, I want to welcome her to the
show because I don't want to take off of this
airplane for another ten minutes by a bio. Just want
to welcome me. Knows how you doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Hi, thank you for having me a What an honor
to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, I know you're doing a lot of things. I'm
very intrigued in your success and your backstory, so that's
always the foundation of area episode for Autist. Kind of
tell us a little bit about your experience of being
homeless and also a child.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I definitely had a rough coming up.
I was born in a third world country, South Africa.
It wasn't a third world country, and it has become
a third world country, but there's no government support or
anything like that out there. My mom was incredibly traumatized,
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and so she would just take off, sometimes for weeks
at a time, and I would be home with my
brother there's you know, with like no food in the
house and just trying to was seven years old, trying
to figure out like how many feed these children? And
then she moved us to England when I was twelve,
and then she had another episode and she just took off,
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She disappeared, and they I was in a boarding school.
The only thing they could do was find me a
home because I couldn't stay the school when there was
no one there, and so they found me a home
and so I was placed in foster care, and she
ended up coming back like seven or eight months later.
She'd been backpacking around Indonesian and she was ready to
(02:38):
be a mom again. And essentially the foster care didn't
let me go, which was really good for me, really
really great because it gave at least some semblance of stability.
But it was a really terrible experience. I wasn't physically abused.
I'd been physically abused in South Africa, but I wasn't
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physically abused in foster care. But every other type of
abuse I was, you know, experienced. So when I emancipated
from foster care, I actually reconnected with my mom and
she moved to America, and then a year later I
followed her here. And what is crazy is that that's
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when my journey got even worse. I got married, I
got I had a baby, and then I got separated,
and then I was homeless four times, had some you know,
sexual assault experiences, and was it was dark. It was
really dark. If it wasn't for my kiddo, I would
(03:42):
not be here anymore for sure. And then I was
I was about to turn thirty, and I found myself
I just caught myself, and I realized that I was
still blaming my mom and all of my abusers for
my choices as an adult. I was homeless for the
(04:03):
fourth time as a single mom, and I was like,
I found myself in my head going it's my mom's fault.
And I was like, wait, I'm about to turn thirty
years old and I haven't lived with her for ten
years now, and I'm still blaming her for my choices.
And I was like, WHOA, something needs to shift. And
(04:25):
so I started a healing journey. I became a hypnotherapist.
I started using hypnotherapy to help me heal my trauma.
And it was just incredible things that I had experienced, thoughts,
beliefs about myself. I experienced my entire life just gone gone,
and I had thought that I would always have to
live with them and work around them, and you know,
(04:47):
things like that. I built my practice pretty quickly. Within
five years, I'd been voted best hypnotherapist in Los Angeles
five years in a row, which was an incredible honor.
But I was still finding myself stuck with my income.
You know, there were times where obviously when I was homeless,
I had no money and there were times where I
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lived on twenty five dollars a week for food for
me and my kiddo. And at this point in my business,
I was making like six thousand dollars, which is a
considerably more amount of money. But in California, you still
have to have a roommate, Like you still can't afford
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the lifestyle. You have to have a roommate. You have
to like still scrimp and say, you're still living paycheck
to paycheck. And it was unbelievable to me that I
had received so many accolades in business, and I received
so many awards, you know, so many plaques. I got
so many certificates from the mayor and you know, our senator,
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and I was still struggling with my money. And just
to then make logical sense, I was booked two months out,
you know, And so I started working on my money
mindset and I started clearing up some beliefs around money.
And then when that started happening is when everything started
to shift. So I doubled my income and doubled my income,
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and doubled my income and doubled my income, and then
I decided to launch a group that I decided to
focus specifically on money mindset, and I didn't know if
I could, but at this point I was really intuitively connected,
and my intuitive guidance was telling me, like, we'll tell
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you what to do, you just have to do it.
And I was like, all right, okay. I felt a
bit like a fraud because that was the program that
was called Millionaire Mindset Mastery. It was my first mindset program.
I hadn't hit seven figures yet in business. I had
barely hit six figures for the first time, and so
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I launched it. Within five months of launching my program,
my clients had made forty five million dollars, and most
of them started at less than five thousand dollars a month,
and I was like, I was a little bit shell shocked.
So there was a lot to take in for me
because we were dealing with money very specifically and very intentionally.
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By the end of that year, they had made over
one hundred million dollars one twenty five, it was, and
it just kept compounding from there. The next year, my
clients made over five hundred million dollars, and so they
five xd what they had done the year before. And
of course these are only I was only getting feedback
(07:43):
from the clients who were working with me. At the time,
I wasn't keeping tabs on how my client's income was increasing,
you know, after they were done working with me. This
was just while they were in the containers. It was
really incredible shifts and that just kept on, had just
kept on, and so here we are. We're about five
years after that, and my clients have now made over
(08:06):
one point seven billion. I've stopped tracking because it would
take an enormous amount of effort to go back and
just touch base with each of them. But it was
really incredible. And then during that process, my income doubled
and doubled and just kept increasing. And now I've made
over three point two million dollars in my business as well,
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which is, you know, just something I'm super grateful for.
So that is kind of the arc that got me
here once again.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Listen, I we folks are ready watching us online today
and talking to our guests. Abbie Levine know as the
sovereign architect. When you think about trauma and mental health space,
I don't imagine that before you versus the current you
had some battles and we all had battles. But I'm
(08:59):
deciding I going that storyline, he has battles to conquer.
What did that look like for you? Because the master
looking in also like you just almost turned the light
switch on. It's kind of worked out. Yeah, what did
that look like? That process of life for you growing yourself?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, that's such a beautiful question. So I think one
of the biggest challenges for me was doubt, and I
think that many people could probably relate to that. Right.
It was doubt in my ability to do like, fulfill
the promises I was making, doubt in my ability to
do it again right. Every time it happened, it felt
(09:46):
like a fluke, and so then I was like, well,
can I repeat it. Some of the biggest narratives that
I had to work with were, I mean, the the
I am a lovable one went real deep, went really
really deep. And so it went through It ran through
(10:06):
my business, It ran through my money. You know, why
would anyone pay me? I am unlovable, right, why would
I How could I build a thriving business? I'm not lovable,
Nobody loves me, nobody will ever love me? Right, And
so that one went deep and there was a lot
of there was a lot of stickiness, There was a
lot of darkness. There were a lot of like manipulative
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behaviors that I had cultivated as a young child to
try to get my needs met that I had to
then face as an adult. Right, I had to do
I had to woke myself. I didn't walk at myself,
but I had to go through a healing codependency Jenny,
because because I didn't receive love as a child, I
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throughout my teenage years, I just learned how to get love.
And the way that you get love is through bargaining, transactions, manipulation, coercion. Right,
if you don't know how to just be loved or
just be in a loving relationship. And I'm not just
talking romantically, I'm talking about all across the board, right,
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I didn't know how to connect and like be in
intimate spaces with people without some kind of transactional experience.
So without I'll give you this, I'll do this for you,
and you just have to love me. And it's very easy.
And I'm very nice and I'm very kind and I'm
very lovable, right, and so this was like some dark
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stuff that went really really deep, and that was woof.
I mean, for anybody who's walked into the forest and
faced some of our darkest you know, our darkest patterns,
our darkest behaviors. You know, there's not just one dark
knight of the soul. There's like a series of dark
knights of the soul that that you walk through. I'm
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grateful to have started with hypnosis and things like that
because it allows the process to be a little bit
more seamless, a few less battles, right, because when a
belief comes up and you can spot it, now you
can clear it. And that was one of the things
that just made it a little bit more palatable. I
think it's one of the things that it's one of
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the things, right, like you don't see people going from
homelessness to multi seven figure businesses because of just how
much darkness and trauma there is in order to battle
through within the psyche, right and without the tools, that
does feel impossible, Like you just it's like it feels
like a brick le that this is where you have
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to sit at until someone gives you the magic code
to get through and creates the door for you. And
so that was one. The other one was one of
the deepest narratives that I had to unwind, was that
my only value lays in action, lais in doing for others,
lays in what I can do or accomplish or how
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I can make people feel. And there was a I
had a moment in my business a few years ago
where I had a semi existential crisis because I realized
I built a business based on my distortions and I
was like, well, shit, do I actually want to do
(13:27):
this or did I just build like a factory line
for my insatiable need for validation, you know, because I
didn't know how to validate internally, And yeah, that was
I was like, there was just a lot of floating
because I didn't have any answers. The answer was, I
don't know. I don't know if I've just built an
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insatiable pit of like endless validation looping, or was this
actually part of my sole journey, my mission? And luckily,
right once I had unwound some of the distortion pieces
with my coach, I was able to see very clearly
that what was mission and what was distortion, And despite
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the fact that they had become deeply entangled, it was
still like I was still on the right path, and
so that was like a massive relief. I've burned my
business down several times because I've built what I thought right,
what I thought people wanted from me, as opposed to
what felt good for me. And so there have been
(14:31):
some times where I just you know, walked away from everything,
closed down what I was doing, and I was like,
I'm gonna build from scratch. It doesn't mean that people
didn't come with me. Some of like some of the
people who are still doing business with me today are
still in my programs are people who were there at
the beginning, which is really fun. But yeah, those were
some of the darker nights that you know, people tend
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not to talk about.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I've into the mission word real quick because when you
think about clarity and hot word fluff when you're in
the thick of things, sometimes it's hard for you to
see what's the difference. Sometimes when you get a third
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party of another person to evaluate what you're doing and
kind of pointing out your blind spots, if you will,
you think about mission. You think about when you started
to make these seals and started to make increase in
your income, did you have any third party or any
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resources to kind of help you have a truthful moment
like Okay, here's the reality of how things are looking.
In order for me to get to that next level
on go, I have to make these changes and adjustments
a lot on the way.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Yes. In fact, I mean the
way that my mind personally works. I'm an incredibly sovereign being,
which means that you can't tell me what to do,
Like nobody can tell me what to do. I can't
even tell me what to do, and that creates the
(16:21):
challenge of my blind spots are blinder, right, Like my
blind spots are big. I don't see something entirely, and
so if without a third party, I wouldn't be here.
And that's one of the things that I think I
settled into. At first, it used to be really frustrating
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that I would only make major leaps and bounds of
progress when I had a coach, whether it was a
business coach or maybe a spiritual mentor or a healer
that I was working with. It was really frustrating that
I had all the tools and I still needed a reflection.
I still needed that mirror. And then after a while
(17:06):
I just realized, duh, Like I got myself as far
as I could by myself with what I can see
right without a reflection. I don't go beyond what my
blinders because my blinders are unseen, They're in my unconscious mind.
And so yeah, I the whole time. I mean, there
(17:31):
were times where I took time off from a coach
or you know, a mentor in order to integrate. And
some of those times were like maybe like a year
where I just needed to be. You know, there was
a time my year where I made my highest income,
the first time I hit seven figures in one year.
I didn't do nothing for nine months after that. I
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just needed to be. I felt like I had been
running my whole life, and for a second, I felt
like I just wanted to stop running and rest and integrate.
So there are times where I just needed to rest.
I needed to stop moving. But every time it's time
to move again, I'll usually get a mirror in place.
(18:14):
So because that just allows me to slice through whatever
stopping me that much quicker. I don't have to sit
there and wrestle with it. I can just be like, hey,
what are you seeing, and then they'll reflect back to me, Oh,
this is it, and I'm like, thank you, that was
very helpful, And either they walk me through it or
I walk myself through it.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And we say slice through. I'm a visual person. I'm
thinking of someone who has to use the skills and
tools that is already making something that they had that's
valuable even better. So far, listeners there are vieriaus kind
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of touch on that. What worse the tools some of
the skills that you were working on to slice through
because you can't slice that that pile or whatever with
well it, maybe you could, but don.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right right, right, right right. I mean having someone to
reflect back to me has been the the biggest thing
for me. I work really well with people who agitate
me because the things that they agitate are the things
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that need to be resolved. So now that doesn't mean
I'm looking for people who are like just a dick.
It means that, you know, someone who I can feel
has a very pure intention and is good at what
they do and is very clear and then shows up
and in there showing up, I just feel like I
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want to tell them to f off or things like that.
That is the cleanest way for me to see what
needs to be sliced through. Right, It's the cleanest way
for me to see what the pile of shit actually
is and then the actual slicing through is a variety
of different tools. For me, NLP is one of my
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how was one of my favorite go tos. There's a
specific and for anybody who doesn't know, NLP is neurolinguistic programming.
There's a specific type of NLP called timeline therapy that
clears limiting beliefs at their root, so you don't even
have to like hack away at it. You just have
to find the belief and then you can clear it.
(20:49):
That was very effective for me. Yeah, that's a great question.
What are some others? A ground breaker for me was
nervous system regulation, which is actually something that's relatively new,
but nervous system regulation allowed me to feel safe even
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when the external environment dictated that I should not feel safe,
whether it was because of money or political reasons or
you know, some crazy stuff that the government's doing or
whatever it was. Relationship stuff like being able to regulate
regardless has essentially given me. And my favorite book to
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recommend for that is polyvagel Theory for Therapy by Dead Dana.
It tells you the science behind nervous system regulation, why
a dysregulated nervous system is so destructive to your business,
to your life, to your money, your income, and then
she gives you like fifty plus ideas on how to
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best regulate your nervous system because essentially, what you're creating
is an internal feeling of safety, and most people lean
towards relationships or money in order to feel that internal
feeling of safety. And if you've been in the if
you've been in the personal development space for any period
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of time, you've heard someone say you can't use external
sources to find validation and safety and things like that.
That has to come from within. Nervous system regulation is,
in my personal opinion, that thing that they're saying safety
comes from within. And I personally am superlogical and I
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love science, so it teaches you the science behind how
you can feel safe internally. It's fully within your control,
which I think is important. Those are so many things
that we feel out of control with and disempowered with
stuff that happens in the outside world, especially when it
comes to money, feels like we have to wait with
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our plate out and whenever the universe deems fit to
bring me my money, I'll be here patiently doing the actions.
A Nervous system regulation turns all of that on its head,
where you actually feel like super empowered, you feel in control.
One of my students said the other day, you know
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someone who has lived in chronic dysregulation, fight or flight,
anxiety or depression her entire life. She said, I feel unstoppable.
And that's essentially like what I think to have a
system regulation gives you. It's not that you'll never have
a challenge ever again, it's that no matter what the
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world throws at you, you have the certainty that you
can handle it.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Once again, they focused ready watching this on line talking
to our guess today, No ads the Sovereign Architect and
go to her website. I know, I saw some link
spell and give it to you. What's the best I
think that people can find your resources?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, the best link if you're on Facebook, find me
on Facebook because I share all my great stuff there
and it's just a bi Levine L E V I
N E. If you want to hop on my website,
it's the same Abby Levine dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And with that said, nobody getting close on time.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
One thing that sits out in this episode. I always
say a lot of times with other people, it's a
common thread. All the people we had on the show,
from celebrities to lots of millioneers, to icons, whatever, whatever, whatever,
all these houses, there's always a common thread I always see.
(24:52):
Now I'm gonna share the audience. Yes, the common thread
I see is that to a point, at each point,
it's not that challenges will never come. It's your response
to the challenge, you know, because no matter where you
are in life, you still get to make the choice
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what's next. In other words, like I heard people say
many times on the show, different careers, different backgrounds, professionals,
and they say, it's not about people coming to rescue.
So you gotta get that loud and clear, like you
got to put down a giant billboard, or is coming
to rescue me and fix any problems I might have
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now or in the future or in the past. But
when you look in the mirror. I had on a
doctor on just yesterday and she says she looked into
her own eyes when she's reflection mirror, and just paraprase
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what she says. She said she began to speak life
to herself, like she she began to say, uh, you know,
it's you and me, like everyone's gone. If I want
to live my best life, it starts I see what
she was saying was she started speaking positive life, challenging
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herself saying, Okay, let's just be real as mean you
right now, we got this, we got that, we got that,
we got some things we gotta address. That's one truth.
The next truth is Okay, what do we gotta do? Okay,
what's that next thing? And then it's almost like what
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you're saying earlier about being able to face those challenges
in a better position as mentally you're a stronger person
and emotionally you're ready for whatever is coming. Because if
you feel like nothing can stop you, it's probably because
you're in the right mindset, mindset to actually operate. Yeah,
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so it's not just about understanding what skills you might need,
because skillful, most talented person on the planet, but someone
who's least less talented than you can still outpace you
if they got the better work ethic.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah that's well said. Yeah, yeah, well said. Thank you
for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What do you think people are watching? Can start being
conscious of today as far as let's just keep it
very similar. There's one value system I can do starting today,
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so that way I can actually start evolving into the
person that is always meant to be because it's easy
to be like, oh woe is me and so difficult
and is everyone else's fault? Or when you start to
understand is you and me Mary, it's time for us
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to adjust. It's time for us to see what is
holding us back? What would you say? Yes, that one
valuable thing they can start doing?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yes one The most a thing that will see you
through everything is just continuing to remind yourself that you
always have choices. Right It's like every time you're at
a crossroads for a decision, or every time you feel
like you're being backed into a corner, and even just
(28:46):
today right now, where do you feel like something's backing
into a corner that you don't want to be in,
or you're having to make a decision that you don't
want to make, or you're getting pressure from externally that
you you don't want. We are groomed to believe that
there is a certain set of things that we should do,
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and my immediate invitation to everyone is realize it's all bullshit.
The only thing that matters is what do you choose?
What do you choose? What are you going to choose?
Are you going to choose to do this because you should.
Are you going to choose to not do it and
deal with the consequences? Right, Like, Sometimes the choices aren't roses.
(29:32):
It's not like walk through a poppy field and hold
hands with bunnies or go down and speers. Yeah that
would be amazing. No, no, yeah, exactly exactly, But it
is what do you choose? And when you can choose
from a space that feels really really truthful to you,
right as it could be as simple as someone you
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having said yes to an event tonight and you don't
want to go, right, You don't ever have to. You
have a choice in that you're never ever, ever ever
backed into a corner where you have no choices. And
when people can start to remember at every single decision
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point that they always have a choice, that is when
empowerment starts to bleed in to their life in a
flood that they cannot undo. Right, It just brings back
that sense of oh, yeah, I do get to control.
We cannot control the external environment, that we can control
how we exactly like you said, how we choose to respond,
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and when we remember that every single thing we do
is a choice, we have power in every single moment.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
When you start getting serious about things in life, and
you start paying attention to successful people, you know, whether
it's an athlete, military person, ceo. You know, the list
is long. You know, your favorite song, your favorite genre.
They're valuable their favorites for a reason, you know. And
(31:17):
until we can really work ourselves, we're always going to
be that men, you know, average, forgotten, overlooked, because that's
how we identify ourselves. Yes, the moment we started to
(31:38):
see no, I'm not man, I'm not average. I just
need some work. I need some construction. Like it's kind
of messed up, like in San Antonio right now, it's
all this construction everywhere ever, right, that's part of being
able to understand this is where I truly am right now. Yes,
(32:03):
that's the harsh reality. But you're gonna have to stay
that way you actually get to the other side where's green,
or you can just start wiring the grass you know
in your place right now and make that. But it's
home about am I going to work on myself the
(32:24):
way I need to because it's gonna be It's gonna
be hard. But I had someone to say this, I'm
gonna close it at this thought. That's some want to say,
pick your heart, because it's gonna be hard to be
successful CEO or you know, entrepreneur, a nine to five
(32:49):
year it's gonna be hard. All right, let's just get
out there. It's gonna be hard being athletic or whatever
whatever your feel is. But it's even harder if you settle.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So yeah, use your heart.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, exactly, Yes, beautiful, well said.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So well, all that's how can people work with you
if they want some more resources and figure out how
your resources and services can help benefit them what their
goals are. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Absolutely, The best thing to do is either just like
message me on Facebook or you can even email me
Abby at abby lavine dot com super easy, tell me
what you got going on, and I'll directly to the
best resource. I have a ton of free resources. If
you have no pennies to spare, I have really affordable
(33:45):
resources if you're like in the middle, and then if
you are, you know, if you have already made some
money that you're finding yourself really freaking stuck. I also
do have one on one services available.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That said was sh our guest today, Habbey Levine. Thank
you for your time.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Thank you
You are listening to I Am Refocused Radio with your
host Shamaiah Read. This show is designed to inspire you
to live your purpose and regain your focus. And now
here's your host, Shamaia Reid.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm talking to focus. Ready once again, we are here
today and we have another show. I know for y'all
today we're gonna be talking about money, so it was
a very easy show to talk about. But our guests today,
Abby Levine, she has a story that goes with that journey.
She is known as the Sovereign Architect. She went from
a homeless foster child to a self made entrepreneur doing
(00:41):
a lot of things for a lot of clients and
from her bio says that she's made over one point
seven billion with her clients, so that's very impressive. She
has a lot of operating systems that she uses a
lot of methods to upgrade those systems with neuroscience, biology
and the things that we're going to get into. But
(01:01):
first and foremost, I want to welcome her to the
show because I don't want to take off of this
airplane for another ten minutes by a bio. Just want
to welcome me. Knows how you doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Hi, thank you for having me a What an honor
to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, I know you're doing a lot of things. I'm
very intrigued in your success and your backstory, so that's
always the foundation of area episode for Autist. Kind of
tell us a little bit about your experience of being
homeless and also a child.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I definitely had a rough coming up.
I was born in a third world country, South Africa.
It wasn't a third world country, and it has become
a third world country, but there's no government support or
anything like that out there. My mom was incredibly traumatized,
(01:54):
and so she would just take off, sometimes for weeks
at a time, and I would be home with my
brother there's you know, with like no food in the
house and just trying to was seven years old, trying
to figure out like how many feed these children? And
then she moved us to England when I was twelve,
and then she had another episode and she just took off,
(02:15):
She disappeared, and they I was in a boarding school.
The only thing they could do was find me a
home because I couldn't stay the school when there was
no one there, and so they found me a home
and so I was placed in foster care, and she
ended up coming back like seven or eight months later.
She'd been backpacking around Indonesian and she was ready to
(02:38):
be a mom again. And essentially the foster care didn't
let me go, which was really good for me, really
really great because it gave at least some semblance of stability.
But it was a really terrible experience. I wasn't physically abused.
I'd been physically abused in South Africa, but I wasn't
(03:00):
physically abused in foster care. But every other type of
abuse I was, you know, experienced. So when I emancipated
from foster care, I actually reconnected with my mom and
she moved to America, and then a year later I
followed her here. And what is crazy is that that's
(03:20):
when my journey got even worse. I got married, I
got I had a baby, and then I got separated,
and then I was homeless four times, had some you know,
sexual assault experiences, and was it was dark. It was
really dark. If it wasn't for my kiddo, I would
(03:42):
not be here anymore for sure. And then I was
I was about to turn thirty, and I found myself
I just caught myself, and I realized that I was
still blaming my mom and all of my abusers for
my choices as an adult. I was homeless for the
(04:03):
fourth time as a single mom, and I was like,
I found myself in my head going it's my mom's fault.
And I was like, wait, I'm about to turn thirty
years old and I haven't lived with her for ten
years now, and I'm still blaming her for my choices.
And I was like, WHOA, something needs to shift. And
(04:25):
so I started a healing journey. I became a hypnotherapist.
I started using hypnotherapy to help me heal my trauma.
And it was just incredible things that I had experienced, thoughts,
beliefs about myself. I experienced my entire life just gone gone,
and I had thought that I would always have to
live with them and work around them, and you know,
(04:47):
things like that. I built my practice pretty quickly. Within
five years, I'd been voted best hypnotherapist in Los Angeles
five years in a row, which was an incredible honor.
But I was still finding myself stuck with my income.
You know, there were times where obviously when I was homeless,
I had no money and there were times where I
(05:10):
lived on twenty five dollars a week for food for
me and my kiddo. And at this point in my business,
I was making like six thousand dollars, which is a
considerably more amount of money. But in California, you still
have to have a roommate, Like you still can't afford
(05:31):
the lifestyle. You have to have a roommate. You have
to like still scrimp and say, you're still living paycheck
to paycheck. And it was unbelievable to me that I
had received so many accolades in business, and I received
so many awards, you know, so many plaques. I got
so many certificates from the mayor and you know, our senator,
(05:54):
and I was still struggling with my money. And just
to then make logical sense, I was booked two months out,
you know, And so I started working on my money
mindset and I started clearing up some beliefs around money.
And then when that started happening is when everything started
to shift. So I doubled my income and doubled my income,
(06:17):
and doubled my income and doubled my income, and then
I decided to launch a group that I decided to
focus specifically on money mindset, and I didn't know if
I could, but at this point I was really intuitively connected,
and my intuitive guidance was telling me, like, we'll tell
(06:37):
you what to do, you just have to do it.
And I was like, all right, okay. I felt a
bit like a fraud because that was the program that
was called Millionaire Mindset Mastery. It was my first mindset program.
I hadn't hit seven figures yet in business. I had
barely hit six figures for the first time, and so
(06:58):
I launched it. Within five months of launching my program,
my clients had made forty five million dollars, and most
of them started at less than five thousand dollars a month,
and I was like, I was a little bit shell shocked.
So there was a lot to take in for me
because we were dealing with money very specifically and very intentionally.
(07:21):
By the end of that year, they had made over
one hundred million dollars one twenty five, it was, and
it just kept compounding from there. The next year, my
clients made over five hundred million dollars, and so they
five xd what they had done the year before. And
of course these are only I was only getting feedback
(07:43):
from the clients who were working with me. At the time,
I wasn't keeping tabs on how my client's income was increasing,
you know, after they were done working with me. This
was just while they were in the containers. It was
really incredible shifts and that just kept on, had just
kept on, and so here we are. We're about five
years after that, and my clients have now made over
(08:06):
one point seven billion. I've stopped tracking because it would
take an enormous amount of effort to go back and
just touch base with each of them. But it was
really incredible. And then during that process, my income doubled
and doubled and just kept increasing. And now I've made
over three point two million dollars in my business as well,
(08:27):
which is, you know, just something I'm super grateful for.
So that is kind of the arc that got me
here once again.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Listen, I we folks are ready watching us online today
and talking to our guests. Abbie Levine know as the
sovereign architect. When you think about trauma and mental health space,
I don't imagine that before you versus the current you
had some battles and we all had battles. But I'm
(08:59):
deciding I going that storyline, he has battles to conquer.
What did that look like for you? Because the master
looking in also like you just almost turned the light
switch on. It's kind of worked out. Yeah, what did
that look like? That process of life for you growing yourself?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, that's such a beautiful question. So I think one
of the biggest challenges for me was doubt, and I
think that many people could probably relate to that. Right.
It was doubt in my ability to do like, fulfill
the promises I was making, doubt in my ability to
do it again right. Every time it happened, it felt
(09:46):
like a fluke, and so then I was like, well,
can I repeat it. Some of the biggest narratives that
I had to work with were, I mean, the the
I am a lovable one went real deep, went really
really deep. And so it went through It ran through
(10:06):
my business, It ran through my money. You know, why
would anyone pay me? I am unlovable, right, why would
I How could I build a thriving business? I'm not lovable,
Nobody loves me, nobody will ever love me? Right, And
so that one went deep and there was a lot
of there was a lot of stickiness, There was a
lot of darkness. There were a lot of like manipulative
(10:30):
behaviors that I had cultivated as a young child to
try to get my needs met that I had to
then face as an adult. Right, I had to do
I had to woke myself. I didn't walk at myself,
but I had to go through a healing codependency Jenny,
because because I didn't receive love as a child, I
(10:50):
throughout my teenage years, I just learned how to get love.
And the way that you get love is through bargaining, transactions, manipulation, coercion. Right,
if you don't know how to just be loved or
just be in a loving relationship. And I'm not just
talking romantically, I'm talking about all across the board, right,
(11:12):
I didn't know how to connect and like be in
intimate spaces with people without some kind of transactional experience.
So without I'll give you this, I'll do this for you,
and you just have to love me. And it's very easy.
And I'm very nice and I'm very kind and I'm
very lovable, right, and so this was like some dark
(11:33):
stuff that went really really deep, and that was woof.
I mean, for anybody who's walked into the forest and
faced some of our darkest you know, our darkest patterns,
our darkest behaviors. You know, there's not just one dark
knight of the soul. There's like a series of dark
knights of the soul that that you walk through. I'm
(11:57):
grateful to have started with hypnosis and things like that
because it allows the process to be a little bit
more seamless, a few less battles, right, because when a
belief comes up and you can spot it, now you
can clear it. And that was one of the things
that just made it a little bit more palatable. I
think it's one of the things that it's one of
(12:21):
the things, right, like you don't see people going from
homelessness to multi seven figure businesses because of just how
much darkness and trauma there is in order to battle
through within the psyche, right and without the tools, that
does feel impossible, Like you just it's like it feels
like a brick le that this is where you have
(12:43):
to sit at until someone gives you the magic code
to get through and creates the door for you. And
so that was one. The other one was one of
the deepest narratives that I had to unwind, was that
my only value lays in action, lais in doing for others,
lays in what I can do or accomplish or how
(13:06):
I can make people feel. And there was a I
had a moment in my business a few years ago
where I had a semi existential crisis because I realized
I built a business based on my distortions and I
was like, well, shit, do I actually want to do
(13:27):
this or did I just build like a factory line
for my insatiable need for validation, you know, because I
didn't know how to validate internally, And yeah, that was
I was like, there was just a lot of floating
because I didn't have any answers. The answer was, I
don't know. I don't know if I've just built an
(13:49):
insatiable pit of like endless validation looping, or was this
actually part of my sole journey, my mission? And luckily,
right once I had unwound some of the distortion pieces
with my coach, I was able to see very clearly
that what was mission and what was distortion, And despite
(14:10):
the fact that they had become deeply entangled, it was
still like I was still on the right path, and
so that was like a massive relief. I've burned my
business down several times because I've built what I thought right,
what I thought people wanted from me, as opposed to
what felt good for me. And so there have been
(14:31):
some times where I just you know, walked away from everything,
closed down what I was doing, and I was like,
I'm gonna build from scratch. It doesn't mean that people
didn't come with me. Some of like some of the
people who are still doing business with me today are
still in my programs are people who were there at
the beginning, which is really fun. But yeah, those were
some of the darker nights that you know, people tend
(14:55):
not to talk about.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I've into the mission word real quick because when you
think about clarity and hot word fluff when you're in
the thick of things, sometimes it's hard for you to
see what's the difference. Sometimes when you get a third
(15:23):
party of another person to evaluate what you're doing and
kind of pointing out your blind spots, if you will,
you think about mission. You think about when you started
to make these seals and started to make increase in
your income, did you have any third party or any
(15:45):
resources to kind of help you have a truthful moment
like Okay, here's the reality of how things are looking.
In order for me to get to that next level
on go, I have to make these changes and adjustments
a lot on the way.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Yes. In fact, I mean the
way that my mind personally works. I'm an incredibly sovereign being,
which means that you can't tell me what to do,
Like nobody can tell me what to do. I can't
even tell me what to do, and that creates the
(16:21):
challenge of my blind spots are blinder, right, Like my
blind spots are big. I don't see something entirely, and
so if without a third party, I wouldn't be here.
And that's one of the things that I think I
settled into. At first, it used to be really frustrating
(16:44):
that I would only make major leaps and bounds of
progress when I had a coach, whether it was a
business coach or maybe a spiritual mentor or a healer
that I was working with. It was really frustrating that
I had all the tools and I still needed a reflection.
I still needed that mirror. And then after a while
(17:06):
I just realized, duh, Like I got myself as far
as I could by myself with what I can see
right without a reflection. I don't go beyond what my
blinders because my blinders are unseen, They're in my unconscious mind.
And so yeah, I the whole time. I mean, there
(17:31):
were times where I took time off from a coach
or you know, a mentor in order to integrate. And
some of those times were like maybe like a year
where I just needed to be. You know, there was
a time my year where I made my highest income,
the first time I hit seven figures in one year.
I didn't do nothing for nine months after that. I
(17:54):
just needed to be. I felt like I had been
running my whole life, and for a second, I felt
like I just wanted to stop running and rest and integrate.
So there are times where I just needed to rest.
I needed to stop moving. But every time it's time
to move again, I'll usually get a mirror in place.
(18:14):
So because that just allows me to slice through whatever
stopping me that much quicker. I don't have to sit
there and wrestle with it. I can just be like, hey,
what are you seeing, and then they'll reflect back to me, Oh,
this is it, and I'm like, thank you, that was
very helpful, And either they walk me through it or
I walk myself through it.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And we say slice through. I'm a visual person. I'm
thinking of someone who has to use the skills and
tools that is already making something that they had that's
valuable even better. So far, listeners there are vieriaus kind
(18:57):
of touch on that. What worse the tools some of
the skills that you were working on to slice through
because you can't slice that that pile or whatever with
well it, maybe you could, but don.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right right, right, right right. I mean having someone to
reflect back to me has been the the biggest thing
for me. I work really well with people who agitate
me because the things that they agitate are the things
(19:42):
that need to be resolved. So now that doesn't mean
I'm looking for people who are like just a dick.
It means that, you know, someone who I can feel
has a very pure intention and is good at what
they do and is very clear and then shows up
and in there showing up, I just feel like I
(20:03):
want to tell them to f off or things like that.
That is the cleanest way for me to see what
needs to be sliced through. Right, It's the cleanest way
for me to see what the pile of shit actually
is and then the actual slicing through is a variety
of different tools. For me, NLP is one of my
(20:28):
how was one of my favorite go tos. There's a
specific and for anybody who doesn't know, NLP is neurolinguistic programming.
There's a specific type of NLP called timeline therapy that
clears limiting beliefs at their root, so you don't even
have to like hack away at it. You just have
to find the belief and then you can clear it.
(20:49):
That was very effective for me. Yeah, that's a great question.
What are some others? A ground breaker for me was
nervous system regulation, which is actually something that's relatively new,
but nervous system regulation allowed me to feel safe even
(21:11):
when the external environment dictated that I should not feel safe,
whether it was because of money or political reasons or
you know, some crazy stuff that the government's doing or
whatever it was. Relationship stuff like being able to regulate
regardless has essentially given me. And my favorite book to
(21:36):
recommend for that is polyvagel Theory for Therapy by Dead Dana.
It tells you the science behind nervous system regulation, why
a dysregulated nervous system is so destructive to your business,
to your life, to your money, your income, and then
she gives you like fifty plus ideas on how to
(22:00):
best regulate your nervous system because essentially, what you're creating
is an internal feeling of safety, and most people lean
towards relationships or money in order to feel that internal
feeling of safety. And if you've been in the if
you've been in the personal development space for any period
(22:21):
of time, you've heard someone say you can't use external
sources to find validation and safety and things like that.
That has to come from within. Nervous system regulation is,
in my personal opinion, that thing that they're saying safety
comes from within. And I personally am superlogical and I
(22:44):
love science, so it teaches you the science behind how
you can feel safe internally. It's fully within your control,
which I think is important. Those are so many things
that we feel out of control with and disempowered with
stuff that happens in the outside world, especially when it
comes to money, feels like we have to wait with
(23:06):
our plate out and whenever the universe deems fit to
bring me my money, I'll be here patiently doing the actions.
A Nervous system regulation turns all of that on its head,
where you actually feel like super empowered, you feel in control.
One of my students said the other day, you know
(23:26):
someone who has lived in chronic dysregulation, fight or flight,
anxiety or depression her entire life. She said, I feel unstoppable.
And that's essentially like what I think to have a
system regulation gives you. It's not that you'll never have
a challenge ever again, it's that no matter what the
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world throws at you, you have the certainty that you
can handle it.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Once again, they focused ready watching this on line talking
to our guess today, No ads the Sovereign Architect and
go to her website. I know, I saw some link
spell and give it to you. What's the best I
think that people can find your resources?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, the best link if you're on Facebook, find me
on Facebook because I share all my great stuff there
and it's just a bi Levine L E V I
N E. If you want to hop on my website,
it's the same Abby Levine dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And with that said, nobody getting close on time.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
One thing that sits out in this episode. I always
say a lot of times with other people, it's a
common thread. All the people we had on the show,
from celebrities to lots of millioneers, to icons, whatever, whatever, whatever,
all these houses, there's always a common thread I always see.
(24:52):
Now I'm gonna share the audience. Yes, the common thread
I see is that to a point, at each point,
it's not that challenges will never come. It's your response
to the challenge, you know, because no matter where you
are in life, you still get to make the choice
(25:17):
what's next. In other words, like I heard people say
many times on the show, different careers, different backgrounds, professionals,
and they say, it's not about people coming to rescue.
So you gotta get that loud and clear, like you
got to put down a giant billboard, or is coming
to rescue me and fix any problems I might have
(25:42):
now or in the future or in the past. But
when you look in the mirror. I had on a
doctor on just yesterday and she says she looked into
her own eyes when she's reflection mirror, and just paraprase
(26:03):
what she says. She said she began to speak life
to herself, like she she began to say, uh, you know,
it's you and me, like everyone's gone. If I want
to live my best life, it starts I see what
she was saying was she started speaking positive life, challenging
(26:26):
herself saying, Okay, let's just be real as mean you
right now, we got this, we got that, we got that,
we got some things we gotta address. That's one truth.
The next truth is Okay, what do we gotta do? Okay,
what's that next thing? And then it's almost like what
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you're saying earlier about being able to face those challenges
in a better position as mentally you're a stronger person
and emotionally you're ready for whatever is coming. Because if
you feel like nothing can stop you, it's probably because
you're in the right mindset, mindset to actually operate. Yeah,
(27:09):
so it's not just about understanding what skills you might need,
because skillful, most talented person on the planet, but someone
who's least less talented than you can still outpace you
if they got the better work ethic.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah that's well said. Yeah, yeah, well said. Thank you
for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What do you think people are watching? Can start being
conscious of today as far as let's just keep it
very similar. There's one value system I can do starting today,
(27:55):
so that way I can actually start evolving into the
person that is always meant to be because it's easy
to be like, oh woe is me and so difficult
and is everyone else's fault? Or when you start to
understand is you and me Mary, it's time for us
(28:16):
to adjust. It's time for us to see what is
holding us back? What would you say? Yes, that one
valuable thing they can start doing?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yes one The most a thing that will see you
through everything is just continuing to remind yourself that you
always have choices. Right It's like every time you're at
a crossroads for a decision, or every time you feel
like you're being backed into a corner, and even just
(28:46):
today right now, where do you feel like something's backing
into a corner that you don't want to be in,
or you're having to make a decision that you don't
want to make, or you're getting pressure from externally that
you you don't want. We are groomed to believe that
there is a certain set of things that we should do,
(29:08):
and my immediate invitation to everyone is realize it's all bullshit.
The only thing that matters is what do you choose?
What do you choose? What are you going to choose?
Are you going to choose to do this because you should.
Are you going to choose to not do it and
deal with the consequences? Right, Like, Sometimes the choices aren't roses.
(29:32):
It's not like walk through a poppy field and hold
hands with bunnies or go down and speers. Yeah that
would be amazing. No, no, yeah, exactly exactly, But it
is what do you choose? And when you can choose
from a space that feels really really truthful to you,
right as it could be as simple as someone you
(29:56):
having said yes to an event tonight and you don't
want to go, right, You don't ever have to. You
have a choice in that you're never ever, ever ever
backed into a corner where you have no choices. And
when people can start to remember at every single decision
(30:19):
point that they always have a choice, that is when
empowerment starts to bleed in to their life in a
flood that they cannot undo. Right, It just brings back
that sense of oh, yeah, I do get to control.
We cannot control the external environment, that we can control
how we exactly like you said, how we choose to respond,
(30:42):
and when we remember that every single thing we do
is a choice, we have power in every single moment.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
When you start getting serious about things in life, and
you start paying attention to successful people, you know, whether
it's an athlete, military person, ceo. You know, the list
is long. You know, your favorite song, your favorite genre.
They're valuable their favorites for a reason, you know. And
(31:17):
until we can really work ourselves, we're always going to
be that men, you know, average, forgotten, overlooked, because that's
how we identify ourselves. Yes, the moment we started to
(31:38):
see no, I'm not man, I'm not average. I just
need some work. I need some construction. Like it's kind
of messed up, like in San Antonio right now, it's
all this construction everywhere ever, right, that's part of being
able to understand this is where I truly am right now. Yes,
(32:03):
that's the harsh reality. But you're gonna have to stay
that way you actually get to the other side where's green,
or you can just start wiring the grass you know
in your place right now and make that. But it's
home about am I going to work on myself the
(32:24):
way I need to because it's gonna be It's gonna
be hard. But I had someone to say this, I'm
gonna close it at this thought. That's some want to say,
pick your heart, because it's gonna be hard to be
successful CEO or you know, entrepreneur, a nine to five
(32:49):
year it's gonna be hard. All right, let's just get
out there. It's gonna be hard being athletic or whatever
whatever your feel is. But it's even harder if you settle.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So yeah, use your heart.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, exactly, Yes, beautiful, well said.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So well, all that's how can people work with you
if they want some more resources and figure out how
your resources and services can help benefit them what their
goals are. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Absolutely, The best thing to do is either just like
message me on Facebook or you can even email me
Abby at abby lavine dot com super easy, tell me
what you got going on, and I'll directly to the
best resource. I have a ton of free resources. If
you have no pennies to spare, I have really affordable
(33:45):
resources if you're like in the middle, and then if
you are, you know, if you have already made some
money that you're finding yourself really freaking stuck. I also
do have one on one services available.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That said was sh our guest today, Habbey Levine. Thank
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