KCAA: I Love San Bernardino County with Robert Porter (Mon, 20 Oct, 2025)

KCAA: I Love San Bernardino County with Robert Porter on Mon, 20 Oct, 2025

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Speaker 10 (05:50):
Oh blessed to be alive? Brother, got another day? How
about yourself, sir.

Speaker 9 (05:53):
Oh Man, I'm feeling good and we are definitely blessed today.
What do you have in store for us for this
incredible show?

Speaker 10 (06:00):
You have some amazing guests that are here today, and
I'll let each one of them briefly introduce yourself. I
started with the gentleman on my right, brother Epps Hipps.

Speaker 11 (06:09):
I'm currently the facilitator for a brother to brother program
here in San Bernardino, and I'm looking forward to speaking
with you out tonight.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Excellent Roger, Hi, my name is Roger y Minski.

Speaker 12 (06:22):
I'm the CEO for Citrus Counseling Services, and I'm just
hoping that I might be able to at least halfway
match the energy.

Speaker 10 (06:30):
Good luck, You're in the right place, all right.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
And then we have the beautiful Amassa alright in the house.

Speaker 10 (06:39):
All right?

Speaker 9 (06:40):
Oh so uh, Basically, we had a really cool weekend.
We had a lot of stuff going on today. So
what what you were photographing quite a few different places.

Speaker 10 (06:50):
Yes, But before we go into today, I have a
special surprise. I want to say happy anniversary to Robert
Porter six years in beautiful Blue This. I want to
say thank you, Amy for adding a whole nother dimension
to our brother Robert Porter's life. He speaks often about
the love and the support and day's blessed to have

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you in his life.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
So just want to say thing we did move to
the next level. I bought her a chicken.

Speaker 10 (07:18):
All right, all right, that's commitment right there.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
That's kind of a story because I had it.

Speaker 13 (07:25):
I recently adopted a chicken because someone abandoned a hen
in front of my house. And so, but she's, you know,
lonely because chickens are social animals, and I had mentioned
that she probably needs a friend.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
And so Robert went out and you.

Speaker 10 (07:40):
Know where did you get the chicken?

Speaker 9 (07:41):
Baseline tack and feed?

Speaker 10 (07:43):
Okay, I really had no idea.

Speaker 13 (07:49):
He videoed me and they opened this box on like
FaceTime or whatever, and there's a chicken in the box.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
And I'm like, okay, because that's not my idea, but
ox of chicken.

Speaker 14 (08:00):
But nevertheless, the neighbors have mentioned though there you go.

Speaker 15 (08:16):
Yeah, they were saying, yeah, so it was it was
a good I actually I admit I forgot that our anniversary.

Speaker 9 (08:31):
Was coming up. So she reminded me of Friday and
I and I pulled the chicken out of my butt.
At least it wasn't a monkey. And that is brought
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Speaker 10 (09:21):
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Speaker 9 (09:22):
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Speaker 10 (09:26):
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Speaker 9 (09:28):
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Speaker 10 (09:31):
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Speaker 9 (09:32):
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Speaker 10 (09:40):
Now, No, definitely, And the pizza is delicious, you know,
very affordable and very delicious. So I love that.

Speaker 9 (09:45):
What I mean by units team, everything's done by units.
If you have a business that you're doing and you
look at each individual item and you've got to see
how much money that individual item makes over the mount
that you paid for it, and you add those units
up with that profit, and with that profit is what

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you build your business on. Right, that you can stay
even for a long time. But but once you get
into that profit, you got to do something with it, right,
that's what you got to build your business with in
the beginning, you don't go and spend it on McDonald's right.

Speaker 10 (10:21):
Then, right, and then as well as pay yourself for
your for your services or you know, the profit.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
And usually in the beginning of your business, everything you
pay yourself goes right back into the business because you know,
like you it's you.

Speaker 10 (10:36):
Yeah, you're you're the angel investor or you're the you know,
the financer and every other hat that's needed with when
you're starting a new business.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
So you can do this team we all. I actually
have been speaking to some of the local people that
would be in charge of getting our kids to start
being more entrepreneurs. Yeah, I think it should be required
for the kids to have a business before they leave
high school. I was just can you imagine what could
the possibilities even if only ten of those businesses out

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of a thousand made it to the five years so.

Speaker 10 (11:10):
Just the lessons, the lessons learned from that exactly, get
rid of that fear of pursuing and trying to manifest
a business. It's like you already bumped your head in
high school, like, hey, and I learned lessons and I'm
applying it now, you know. So I love that, you know.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
And how do the schools get money? At the end
of the day, Amy sends out letters to all the
doctors that graduated from or surgery residency school right well
and says, hey, you guys, got anything you want to
donate to our fund right well? Seeing thing with the
local schools, right if we have alumni that are Heisman

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Trophy winners, eventually that's gonna filter back down to us.

Speaker 10 (11:52):
That's the hope, Yes, the hope.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
Definitely definitely praying praying for us. Sorry, amen, and thank
you Golden Pizza and Wings for that. I know, since
we're talking about a little bit of sports. We also
have Pal Charter Center and a Pal Charter Academy. Just
now put on the IE Live Market night that we
did on this Saturday, and they had all the community
out there. They were giving it free pumpkins to every kid.

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Every kid got a free pumpkin.

Speaker 10 (12:18):
That's awesome. Yea, thank you.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
I mean those costs seven to five bucks. You know,
you don't think it's a lot, but if your family's
just barely getting enough for food, they ain't gonna be
able to buy that pumpkin on their ebt or anything.
They're gonna have to forego that. So it's good to
give these things out to the community for those that
don't have it. Then you don't have to buy a
pumpkin too if you do have money, Right, So that was.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
That really cool.

Speaker 10 (12:40):
No, that's totally awesome, And I think you have a
special surprise today. I think there's a.

Speaker 9 (12:46):
New Oh yeah, well we do. We have a new
sponsor for a stand out of the week. So let
me mention our standout of the week is all the protesters. Now,
I want to make something very specific, right, I really
do think that that No. King's protest was powerful yesterday
and awesome, but I don't want to forget the way

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the other team does that there was a large opposition
also protesting their things that they hold dear. And that
is what America is about, are that we can protest,
that we can do that, and that we should listen
to the other team.

Speaker 10 (13:29):
There should be just that you.

Speaker 9 (13:30):
May not agree, right, but we should know what they want.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Right.

Speaker 10 (13:33):
We have to work towards common ground. Yeah, we see
things from different vantage points and different lived experiences, but
at the at the root of it, we're all blessed
to be able to call ourselves Americans, right, So we
have to put down our individual agendas and think about
things that will be beneficial to the country and all

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of us that reside here and to me documented or not,
all the people that are on this land. And that
will be because everyone brings the ads value to our system.
So yeah, shout out to.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
All Mexican English, you know, Native American. He wasn't like that.
He just created everybody.

Speaker 10 (14:15):
And I just want to shout out. The last tally
I heard, it was over over seven plus million people,
and that is a turnout across the nation and a
lot of major cities. And you know, there was one
happening here in Riverside, Redlands, sam Mandino. There was a
number of them happening throughout the Inland Empire. From when
I'm hearing, most of them were very peaceful. What I

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did see one statistics I did see like no one,
no of the people supporting the No Kings got arrested.
It was the counter protesters that some of them had
got arrested for inciting fights and violence. Yes, which sadly
you seem to see a lot from from certain sides, right.
So as long as like you're saying, to your original point,
it's a blessing to have the first some maning rights

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to be able to protest and raise our voice, and
as long as we do those things in a peaceful
manner and respecting each other's differences. And I think that's
the problem. We're kind of happy and where people are
not respecting other people's point of view, and.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
That the dividing line isn't real, it's just made up line.
It's like we can we can jump on both sides
of that line all day long and still not know
where we stand. So really, do what's good for your
in your heart. Do what you would do for your
own family. That's how I look at politics. If I
would do it for my own family, that's probably something good.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
But these family is going to have to define that.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
Yeah, And that's what makes America so great. And thank
you for picking that as a standard of the week.
I think the No King's protest was something that we
really needed because we were you know, we formed this
country based off of a democracy and everybody working together, right, And.

Speaker 10 (15:57):
I like that framing. But this, this country was built
off of jediside some of that, but like the root
of it.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
Yeah, after that, but there was there was a time
where I want to gloss over that. Yeah. The fact
that we can even say that is because the people
got together and said, Okay, we're gonna have this rule allowed.
Where this rule is not allowed in some countries. You
try to say certain things in Dubai, you may never
get out of prison.

Speaker 10 (16:24):
No, very very We have some incredible we have incredible freedoms,
We have some incredible needs work. Of course, everything needs
to work.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
It's not a stale document like they wanted to be.
I think it should be a It needs to add
a lot more flavor.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
I like that, a little seasoning.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
Yes, all right, and that's what we got for today, sir.
What do you have?

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Well, definitely, definitely. We're gonna dive on in to our
interviews today and we'll start off with I.

Speaker 9 (16:51):
Messed up, I chusey smash, I love stand.

Speaker 10 (16:57):
Out of the way, shout out to Vic, thank you,
And also VIC is going to be doing their how
their trunk or treat of it again this year. So
if you guys want to support the trunk or treat
at Chubbsy's and also get an awesome smash burger one
of the best smash burgers in the Inland Empire, reach out,
drop off candy and stuff over at the Chubby Smash

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location and bless her community, the whole team.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
You know, we've been supporting them since the pop up
day and like to like I was almost a little
bit like I don't know, I want to help you,
but like it's getting to the point now where they're
doing really good.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
I'm not proud of.

Speaker 9 (17:34):
A man, and like maybe they can't help a little
bit out other people. So I was like, Okay, we'll
do the lowest we can do and try a little
bit and we'll have we'll have fun with it and we'll.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
Work hard, definitely, because like I told Vic, and I
gotta get my money up because I said, I want
to open up the second location, be the first one,
to be the first franchise. Franchise franchise. I can't franchise.

Speaker 9 (17:56):
I don't even know if I ever said that word.

Speaker 10 (17:58):
That's an interesting one. Good one man, good one man.
That's that's what I mean.

Speaker 11 (18:02):
We need to say that.

Speaker 10 (18:03):
There you go, and you too can own a chuse
smash brother. Yeah, yeah, well definitely, definitely, thank you VIC
for for the sponsorship. We greatly appreciate you, Team, Joseph Patrick, everybody, everybody.
With that being said, we're going to go over to
brother John Epps. How are you doing today, sir much amen,
thank you for blessing us with your presence.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
Doing great and doing great things.

Speaker 10 (18:27):
Yes, indeed, yes, indeed a lot of time. Robert loved
this gentleman's bio. He's all the hats that he wears
and all the great work that he does in our community.
But with that being said, brother Epps, could you tell
us kind of like your origin story where you're from?
How how'd you get here? We brought you here?

Speaker 11 (18:44):
Well, originally I'm from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I grew up.

Speaker 10 (18:54):
All right, and.

Speaker 11 (18:56):
I brought my family to California in one I think
while I was in Philadelphia, I was blessed to be
able to have a wonderful, wonderful career in communications. I
worked originally for the phone company and later on, I
started training programmers and analysts. So my background with computers

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goes all the way back to card decks.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
Ye, when they're about the side of a rumor, Yeah,
this building.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
And so that was how I started out. I started out,
I learned how to be a programmer. I realized I
really didn't want to be a programmer, but what I
loved more than anything was helping people, and so I
wanted to become a trainer. My company said, but John,
you have no experience, So they created a wonderful opportunity

(19:50):
for me. They set up a job that we called
our SWAT Team, where I was able in six months
to get two years worth of experience and so that
I was able to then start training from there. I
taught four or five years with Computer Learning Center, and
in the process of working in Computer Learning Center in Philadelphia,

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I got an opportunity to come to the Anaheim School,
and I took that opportunity because things were looking pretty
dark in Philadelphia. I have to say, sometimes you have
chapters in your life, and one of the things you
have to decide is when it's time to sign off
from a chapter. And for me, leaving Philadelphia was it

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time that was very important.

Speaker 9 (20:35):
Do you you saw a family and a lot of
connections there.

Speaker 11 (20:39):
Unfortunately not really. My family is So how.

Speaker 9 (20:45):
Do you get a Philip Steak when you need one?

Speaker 11 (20:49):
They make planes, gotta love it.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
You weren't expected that one, but I've seen them ordered
right out of the car, right off the side of the cot.

Speaker 11 (21:00):
You right your hand, listen, listen. But a lot of
the reason I came to California was because living on
the East Coast, you get a lot of stories about California.
But you know, everybody here lives on the beach. Nobody
does anything. I mean, you know, And so I'm one

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of those guys who believes I want to see it
to believe it. I'm not a you know, I'm not
a vicarious person. I want to actually experience it. Back
in nineteen seventy one, I heard about Vietnam. I actually
enlisted in the army and was ready to go. Fortunately
for me, I didn't wind up in Vietnam. I wound

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up in Germany for seventeen months. Thank you for your
I had a wonderful time going through Europe. I got
a wonderful opportunity to travel. I did a little bit
of a if Yanni impersonation, I don't want to tell them,
but I used to take pictures for the Army at
all of their events while I was there for seventeen months.

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When I got to California and those.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
Girls, cameras were a little different, night cons or Nikon
still feel the same. Yeaheah, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
I don't know. I used to develop my own film though.
I remember that.

Speaker 9 (22:17):
I just look the different between digital.

Speaker 11 (22:19):
I used to develop my own. Yeah, I had a
lot of friends. It's hard work. I remember as a
kid growing up in Philly. One of the most important
things to me though, I said, God, I'm gonna make
a deal with you. You know my life will be
worth it if one day I have the opportunity to
look into Disneyland. I didn't want to get into Disneyland.

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I didn't think that happened, just to be able to
look into Disneyland. When I got here, I moved to Anaheim.
I could see the Matterhorn from my office. That's beautiful.
I went to Disneyland every weekend for six months. My
kids hated Disneyland, protizing I was there every It was

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Mister Toad's will Ride. I could walk through. It's like
walking to my car. And as a result, my kids
would say, Dad, you know you're going to I guess,
said yeah, we don't want to go. I said, don't go.
I come out the house, locked the door and said, well,
when we're going to go eat lunch, I said, I'm
going to eat lunch in Disney. I don't know what
you're going to do. So they would go to Disney.

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So I have to say I now have my Disney
feties over. But that's that's that's a good bucket list
though it was, it was a great thing to be
able to check out. When I left the Computer Learning Center,
I came out to the Land Empire. Actually lived in Ukaipa,

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which was a different kind of an experience for me.
I went to some exciting and that's where I'm sorry, man.
I had some experiences. I think the police were at
my door every year. I know when I lived there,
I had two young young boys, and it was just

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always something. But the cool part was we lived through
that and we actually prospered. I started working for an
organization called PC University where I was training, and one
day my boss introduced me. She said, what I like
to ask is could you teach an Excel class at

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UCR Extension for me? One of the instructors was ill, say,
it's a six week class. Me being an entrepreneurial, I
was like, sure, six weeks. I put that on my resume.
I taught at UCR Extension and I left nineteen years later.
Only nineteen years later. So I started off teaching Microsoft.

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I taught everything Microsoft for five years. And I was
walking down the hallway with my boss one day and
she said, hey, John, I'm looking for somebody who could
teach like leadership and communication and team building. And I thought, geez,
since I used to run a school, maybe I can help.
So I volunteered for that, and so I taught there.

(25:21):
I taught businesses all throughout Riverside in San Bernadino County.
And then five years later, see this is what I'm learning.
Don't walk down the hallway with your boss every five years.
So five years later, I'm walking down the hallway and
she said, John, I'd like to know somebody who could
write proposals, grant proposals. And I don't. I don't call

(25:42):
itself a grant writer. Funders create grants. I create proposals.
And since I was trained by the best at AT
and T and market team. I write really good proposals,
so I started training. That's actually rare.

Speaker 9 (25:56):
It's hard to get good grant writers out there.

Speaker 11 (25:58):
Yeah, really hard. So I was very good. I was
very good. I had had done that for about five
years for several organizations out here. So I took that
skill set and started teaching at UCR and what they
call their Nonprofit Certificate program. And the last eight years

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I was there, I taught that program and graduated a
lot of the people who are now running nonprofits, so
helping our community. Yes, yes, I just you know, I
was raised in a situation limited income, single dad, no
dad at home, every single mom, no dad at home.

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And my mom's name was Blanche.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
I'd like to dedicate this show to all the mamas
out there.

Speaker 11 (26:50):
She was. She was definitely my spirit. She's still with me.
And then, you know, my opportunity to work with nonprofits
led me to start my own nonprofits. So for several
years I ran after the school program, did a lot
of work in portions of Sam Bernardino, and then started

(27:12):
a nonprofit actually out in Palm Springs, Palm Desert. Did
that for about three or four years and decided it
was time to come home. Also in that period, I
worked as the director for what we called the Center
for Nonprofit Advancement, and so my job for three years

(27:33):
was to work with the foundation to act. So I
worked on both sides of the street, right, I worked
in organizations and I worked where the money comes from foundations,
and so I kind of understand how all of that works.
Take all of that experience, and I said, Okay, I
don't want to do any of this anymore. So I thought, well,
I'm gonna go home and retire and take it easy,

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I mean, and then down the hall way with Actually,
I was fortunate a good friend of mine who I
met at the PAL Center. My first kind of gig
actually out here in an Empire was as a project manager.

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When the PAL Center moved to their current locations. So
I got a call on in February, at the end
of February, almost February twenty eighth, and they said, we
have to be moved by April first, and all we
have is five empty trailer sitting there. We moved in
on April first.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
And so it's way I mean five empty trailer, I
mean that place is just like magnificent.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (28:42):
Yeah, if you would have seen it the dad I
saw it. I had to climb up on a paint
can to get into the trailer.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
You know what you should have mister radd and bring
you in and talk to the kids. That would be
really cool to tell them.

Speaker 11 (28:55):
I would be happy to do that. I'll talk to
him about it. I'm happy to do that. Work for
doctor him for a couple of years and did well.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
So I've been around there an empire. I've worked with
an organization called Youth Action Project with Joseph Williams and
was their fiscal sponsor when they started up. So, you know,
I just believe that there's a way I can give
you a hand up.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
That's what I'm here to do.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
That's why we're here.

Speaker 11 (29:25):
So that's why I'm excited when if Johnny invited me,
and currently I work with the lady I met there
at the pal Center twenty several years ago, probably more
than twenty years ago now. Her name is Deborah Williams,
and Deborah has an organization called Building Resilian Communities, and
about a little over two years ago we were having

(29:47):
a conversation. One of her staff members said why don't
black men go to the doctor, Because she does emergency preparedness,
works with families and churches to be ready in case
something happens. And when she set that all up and
he asked that question, we decided we would talk about that,

(30:11):
and in our conversation we started to say, well, it's
not just about not going to the doctor. There's a
lot of things that black men don't do, you know,
And we decided that we wanted to address that. So
over the next years and a half, actually we sat
down and talked about wellness, we talked about finance, we

(30:35):
talked about relationships, and out of that we designed this
program called Brother the Brother. And with Brother to Brother,
what we do The most important thing that I think
we do is we provide a safe environment, yes, for
men of color to come together and to feel welcome,

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to feel appreciated, to feel empowered.

Speaker 9 (31:02):
And so I guess what you need to start as
successful anything.

Speaker 11 (31:05):
Well, I think so too, But it's not that many
places where we feel safe. Yes, that's so true, and
so we started. We ran a four session pilot last
year that turned out to be very successful. We meet
on the first Saturday of the month. We meet for

(31:26):
about three hours. If the guys come in, well usually
have a really good icebreaker where he asked really important questions.
I think if Yanni is always like unexpected, Right, so
we asked what is your favorite song? Because we decided
we would create a brother to brother playlist? Right if Yanny,

(31:49):
what was your choice?

Speaker 10 (31:50):
Eighteen twelve overture by Chakowski with the Cannons because because
brother Karl.

Speaker 11 (31:55):
Was like, it's got to have the cannon. I love
classical music. This is the kind of people I work with,
and so we love you. But what you want, like
did you want Tupac or baby? Like? We got all
of that time. I have to have to send you,
I have to send you the playlist, but we got everything.

(32:17):
But there's classical in there now, definitely. Well, he wasn't
the only classic, but he was. He was the one
with it. Sounds like you got a good group, then,
very we have a great group.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
A smortgage board of people who personality.

Speaker 11 (32:30):
Yeah, we worked with over forty men over the last year.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
And a half.

Speaker 11 (32:34):
Was that the last photos you just put up?

Speaker 10 (32:37):
No, that was at the breakfast with the hundred Black Men,
But prior to that was the week Prior to that
was the The Brother the Brother Fellowship.

Speaker 11 (32:46):
Those pictures.

Speaker 9 (32:47):
Yeah yeah, because like it's weird, you're you're always come up,
but they only showed me one at a time.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
Man.

Speaker 11 (32:52):
Yeah yeah yeah. So so our goal again is how
can we really help men take the deep dive that
they need and then come out of that with a
sense of empowerment to take action to change their lives
and to change the lives of their families, and to

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begin to serve their communities, and to make a difference
in really their choice of what they want their future
to be. I work with an organization called Creating the
Future with Hilde Godlie, and one of the things that
we talk about is something called catalytic thinking, and in
Calaidic thinking, the idea is, instead of trying to solve

(33:35):
the problem, let's ask a different question, what is the
future that you want to create? And so we're trying
to create that mindset in the men to stop trying
to fix things, because too much energy goes into how
do we pull somebody back who went over the andi already?
What I want to do is stop people from going
over there in the first place.

Speaker 9 (33:55):
That's the best, that's the cheapest way of the long
run to save their life too.

Speaker 11 (34:00):
What works, That's what works.

Speaker 10 (34:01):
And it reminds me of Frederick Frederick Douglass, where like
he can do more of a child than a broken man.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
We've we talked about this and how much it costs
in the prison system per year.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
And if you took that money, yeah, totally you would.

Speaker 10 (34:16):
I'm big on prevention. But as we get ready to
close out this segment and go over to our brother
Roger Yumenski, I was just wondering you, being a minister
as well, could you share the importance of your faith
tradition and how that has helped you in your life briefly, because.

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Sure, again, I wouldn't be here without having had grandparents
who started me in the faith tradition. I mean my
grandmother and grandfather who raised me part of my childhood
were both ministers, so they really embedded in me a

(34:54):
deep abiding trust and not only who God is, but
also who God wasn't you know. So I'm not caught
up in religion. I'm not caught up in rules. What
I am caught up in is this idea that we
all have the opportunity to really be who we are
made to be, And so it doesn't matter what you

(35:16):
look like, doesn't matter whether I agree with you politically,
doesn't matter. Nothing that matters except the belief that I
am here to love you, to care for you, and
to make sure that if there's anything I can do
for you that I recognize, I'm going to be taken
care of it. So I always tell people you can

(35:37):
never give away more kindness than you'll get back. And
so in my whole life, I've been able to walk
often against a lot of odds, but I've also felt
just a piece about who I am, you know, as
I'm now aging a little bit, you know. So I

(35:59):
read a good article the other day that says, now
it's time for us to be about the work of,
you know, making sure that everything is meeting up and
tied down and ready to go. And I really am
looking forward to that. I really am enjoying that work.
I just really believe that the best is still yet
to come.

Speaker 10 (36:19):
Amen.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
And so that's what my friend is.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
That ad that's a good way to look at life.

Speaker 8 (36:24):
I mean, it really is.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
It does seem like if you hold on, times get better,
and you know, you still have good times.

Speaker 10 (36:32):
Especially if you're willing to work towards those good times as.

Speaker 9 (36:35):
Well, and then that happens by working on yourself.

Speaker 10 (36:37):
Amen, that internal work. Briefly, could you share how if
anyone's interested in attending the brother brother of fellowship. I
know we're getting close to the end of this this
year's fellowship, and I'm hoping that it will continue forward
into next year, but it's still a couple opportunities to
come out and engage.

Speaker 11 (36:54):
Our next meeting with being November the first we meet
at the Civil Rights Institute and Riverside. We started at
about a thirty. We welcome anyone to come. All men
are welcome. Sorry ladies, No ladies, that's it's a no
lady zone. But other than that, please come out. Could

(37:16):
you explain your reasoning.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
I was just thinking, like, no, there's certain things that
I feel that nails like they this is a space.

Speaker 11 (37:26):
Yeah, let me have you. It's exactly that there's a
difference in the way the conversation takes place where we're
bringing different people that.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
Yeah, not to leave women out, but because men out,
there's just we just have things that are a couple
of things that are different.

Speaker 11 (37:41):
Well, I like to say, there you know there's not
many spaces where I really feel I can be vulnerable. Yes,
and there's not. You know, many of us have been
raised and a relationship of toxic masculinity. I've done some

(38:03):
work with the Big Brothers Big Sisters, and one of
the things we've been doing is trying to prepare men
to be mentors. And a lot of what I've had
to deal with is this, you know, we come up
to be You have to be tough, you can't cry,
you can't well, I have to tell you. We rarely
have a meeting a brother or brother where we don't
have tears. We rarely have a meeting a brother or

(38:25):
brother where we don't have things that we say that
men would not say in their presence of females.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
So yeah, that's the only reason I was kind of
get at that, because sometimes it's important because people will think, oh,
they're leaving people out, but no, it's.

Speaker 11 (38:44):
It's actually it actually makes it better when they leave,
because now they are equipped to go back and actually
talk to the women in their lives from an authentic,
wholesome perspective as opposed to from a position of closed fear.

Speaker 10 (39:05):
Definitely, definitely, and if people are interested in connecting. You
could go to Building Resilient Communities. You can find them
on Facebook r c US dot org.

Speaker 11 (39:14):
All right, and also they have a Facebook page Builders
and Communities. And I just again encourage you if you
reach out to if you're or the station, they will
also have our contact information.

Speaker 10 (39:28):
Definitely, Yeah, you can definitely reach out to me. I'll
get you plugged in and everyone you know is welcome.
It's a beautiful session. And like you were saying earlier,
it's not many spaces for men to be.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
Men and to talk about issues that affect us. So
that's why it needs to be separated.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
Because there's many a spaces for for for women and
women express themselves and couples, there's many a spaces for that,
but we want to create a space for brotherhood. So
that's that's.

Speaker 9 (39:56):
Because it's those things that we're talking about that need
to be focused on that we haven't And I don't
think it's just one group of men, it's all men.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
Some things are universal, but as Brother Epps has said,
there's some things the experiences that people of color have
in this nation that others cannot relate to. They might
under they might have an understanding, but they don't know
how it is to walk.

Speaker 11 (40:17):
Within those shoes and vice versa as well.

Speaker 10 (40:20):
Yes, yes, that's very true. Absolutely definitely, thank you. Thank you,
brother Epps for all that you do in our community.
I love you as well, brother, and just thank you
for being a mentor to me as well, and and
the knowledge and wisit and wisdom and insight that you
have poured into me as well. Brother. I just want
to say thank you and that I appreciate you.

Speaker 11 (40:37):
And Roger. Roger, Roger, how.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
You doing today?

Speaker 5 (40:43):
I am doing fantastic, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 10 (40:46):
So tell us a little about your origin story, sir.

Speaker 12 (40:48):
So you know, I think that John and I have
sort of loved almost some parallel lives.

Speaker 10 (40:53):
Okay for Philadelphia too.

Speaker 12 (40:54):
Heck no, you know, I'm hoping he's not an Eagles
fan because I grew up in down Us.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
I went to church with Roger Stabach, so yeah.

Speaker 10 (41:11):
Da, yeah, he definitely.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
You know.

Speaker 12 (41:17):
I I came to California in about nineteen ninety one myself,
so back when I was in I grew up in Texas.
The things that I really wanted to do that I
was passionate about, or the kid growing up and all
the things that I thought it would be great to do.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
The world.

Speaker 12 (41:35):
Let me know that I was not going to do
any of those things, right, you know, there are certain
gifts that we've just not been given. So you know,
I wasn't going to become a fighter pilot because I
can't see past my nose, right, Yeah, I wasn't going
to design aircraft, you know.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Pivoted to that way, and my math grade just decided
that I was not going to become an air and
ouchle engineer.

Speaker 11 (41:54):
I didn't have to go there.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
I thought, well, if I can't design an aircraft, I'll
design bill.

Speaker 12 (42:00):
So I wanted to become an architect for a while,
So then took all the classes to do that preparing
for that, started talking architects and discovered that if your
name's not Frank Lloyd Wright or i AMP, you have
to design the things that the people that are going
to buy the buildings want and that, yeah, I took
all the creativity from my perspective.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
So I said, to heck with it. I'm just going
to go for the money.

Speaker 12 (42:21):
So my dad sold insurance and all of his friends
were in sales of some type or other. Everything from
working for IBM to Alcoa and a wide rave of things,
and I kind of saw that the harder you work,
the smarter you work.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
There was no limit.

Speaker 12 (42:39):
So I was like, if I can't do what I'm
passionate about and I want to, we'll have to do
I'm just gonna make money. So I went to Texas
A and m got a degree in marketing, graduated, started
working for world's largest consumer products manufacturer, Lever Brothers Company.
Here Unilever is the worldwide company. Did really well at
that in sales for about three years.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Woke up one day and went, I don't want to
do this anymore.

Speaker 12 (43:04):
And so part of going through that was a friend
of mine who I.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Was talking to, was like, this just is weird.

Speaker 12 (43:11):
This is the first time in my life that I've
woken up and I didn't want to go work because
I had had talking about entrepreneurship. You know, I had
a paper out a babysat from when I.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Was thirteen years old.

Speaker 12 (43:22):
I started working in a department store, in a grocery
store when I was sixteen.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Worked all the way.

Speaker 12 (43:28):
Through college, always enjoyed working. And one day woke up
and I was like, I'm not sure why, but I'm
not excited about doing this, and so sure.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
That's a good moment, though I mean scary at the time.

Speaker 11 (43:40):
Yeah, it's profound, right.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Yeah. So Gallos, dating at the time, said you know,
you need to go.

Speaker 12 (43:46):
See a therapist, and she referred me to somebody that
she knew, and I was like, there me, what the heck?
And I discovered at the ripe old age of like
twenty three that I was going through a midlife crisis,
which was really shocking to me because I, yeah, I
didn't have a trophy wife.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
I didn't even have a first wife.

Speaker 12 (44:03):
First, I was like, you know, where's the red sports car?
So at that time, I was like, Okay, this is
a wake up call. I'm And there were a lot
of things going on at the company that I was
working for that kind of created some disincentives to continue
working there because mostly they kept putting different incentives involved.

(44:26):
So it made it so that the team that I
was on, even though we were kicking button taking names,
the percentage that we can get in terms of like
bonus structure kept getting.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Smaller and smaller.

Speaker 12 (44:35):
So it was a little disappointing when you know you'd
been there for three years and your first bonus check
was like a third of what your salary was, and
your last bonus check you got.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
There, Oh, I could go buy a shirt. It was
basically help Yeah.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
So and at the time, being young in cocky, I
had thought, well, to move from point A to point B,
you gotta leave point A.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
So three days to day that I started working for
that company, I quit. Didn't have any place to go.

Speaker 12 (45:05):
So I spent some time riding my bike thinking about
what I wanted to do, and started talking to just
everybody and anybody that I that would talk to me
about things that just sounded interesting to me. So I
learned about a lot of different organizations, neat things that
they did, and learned that you couldn't pay me enough
money to do a lot.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Of those things, which is okay, that's a learning thing.

Speaker 12 (45:27):
But I wound up working for GE Capital Modular Space,
which was the smallest but most profitable division of GE
Capital at the time. And g back then was a
huge conglomerate. They made everything from light bulbs to locomotives,
and GE Financial Services was like probably the biggest financial
services company in the world. Great opportunity, fantastic training program,

(45:51):
just like Lever brothers had too, and so enjoyed my
time there. Started out as a sales rep, became a
sales manager. Within six months, managed your branch in Fort Worth,
covering pretty much half of Texas, and then had the
opportunity to move to California. So moved to southern California.
And like you said, you know, you, what do you

(46:12):
think of when you're not from California beach? Yeah, so
you see on TV the beach and the palm trees.
I'd been to California for a sales meeting in a
resort in Palm Springs and then I'd gone skiing like Taco.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
So that's what California looked.

Speaker 10 (46:28):
Like to me.

Speaker 12 (46:29):
And I wound up transferring here to rialto California to
manage the Inland Empire.

Speaker 11 (46:35):
Right, that's a little bit different.

Speaker 12 (46:37):
Yeah, that being said, I mean clearly when you live
in the Inland Empires, it is a neat place geography
from a geography perspective, because you're like, what an hour from.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
The beach, hour from a desert, hour from mountains.

Speaker 12 (46:51):
Yeah, it really is a great hobb so uh working there,
And you know, one of the things that I had
suggested when I first started working there, was that we
had too many branches and we could make a whole
lot more money and still provide a level of customer
service that our customers required by closing about half the branches.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
We have and in southern California. And so.

Speaker 12 (47:14):
The best thing about working for that company for me
was I met a woman. There was a sales rep
that was supposed to be working for my branch, and
before I moved out here, the regional manager called me
one else.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Going forward, Hey, I'm really excited I hired this person.
You're gonna love her to work in your branch.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
And I was like, that's great, Rick, but you know,
in the future, can I please hire my own staff?
That would be really nice? And he's like, oh, I
totally yeah. So he's like, I'm gonna transfer to Orange County.
She'd more than Orange canny girl. Anyway, long story short,
wound up marrying her. Right, I would definitely not have
gone out with her. I spent a lot of time

(47:52):
trying to set her up with somebody that I met
out here, so that because I was like, man.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Good looking girl, she's got to have pretty sisters, And
she did.

Speaker 11 (48:02):
To what they called.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Whatever.

Speaker 12 (48:06):
So anyway, got back from our honeymoon and uh, one
of the guys from the corporate office came in. It's
like on a Friday afternoon. Hey can I talk to you?

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Sure thing?

Speaker 12 (48:18):
Come on in, Paul and sat across the desk from
me and handed me an envelope, said, uh, here's your
severance pay. I need the keys to the company car.
We're closing half the branches in southe of California.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (48:28):
Yeah, I had a great idea and make them a
lot of money without me.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
So I got to call my new wife and say, hey,
remember a few weeks ago and you said for better
or worse? Did you really mean it? And she was
like yeah, why so right exactly so did she? Yes?
She did?

Speaker 12 (48:49):
Thank uh yeah, and she she hated working for that company,
so as soon as we got engaged, she started working
for another organization. But uh, I was like, okay, I'm
and I was making pretty good money at the time.
I was like, okay, I got to find something because
I promised this person that I would treat her really
well and take care of her.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
And she had been working.

Speaker 12 (49:11):
In the voke rehub industry for a little while and
I knew that there was something going on in there
where there were people called job developers. So their job
was to go look for jobs that could be either
for to justify or not justify different programs that people
were going into that had industrial injuries to come out
of that fine or once they came out of it,

(49:33):
to help them find jobs.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
And so I started a company. I was a ten
ninety nine.

Speaker 12 (49:37):
Employee for a number of different voke Rehub companies because
I figured I will get paid to look for a
job for myself while I'm looking for jobs for other people, right,
smart man. And so that wound up where I started
actually doing more work for.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Some of these vok rehab companies.

Speaker 12 (49:54):
Became a vocation or real bit rehabilitation counselor and loved it.
It was one of the things where you know, I
came home every day and I just.

Speaker 11 (50:03):
To help people get back into the job.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (50:06):
So if somebody has an industrial injury, like I had.
An example, one of the people that was on my caseload,
he was in construction. He was a carpenter and you know,
he got injured, saw took off one of his hands,
and so now he's got to figure out what am.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
I going to do because I can't be a carpenter anymore.

Speaker 11 (50:27):
Right, So you got.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Yeah, but devastating, but still really cool.

Speaker 12 (50:32):
You do an analysis, figure out what their interests are,
what their skills are, and then you know, put them
on a plan for for something else.

Speaker 11 (50:41):
Which direction did you point on?

Speaker 5 (50:44):
This one was really interesting? Is this guy very motivated?
He lost his right dominant hand.

Speaker 12 (50:53):
He had interest in and really wanted to do computer stuff, programming,
And they said, no way can this guy do that?

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Because you got to tye and he was so motivated.

Speaker 12 (51:01):
He got to where he could type two hundred words
a minute, uncorrected with one hand.

Speaker 10 (51:05):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
So you know, these these.

Speaker 12 (51:11):
Are some of those things where you know, I came
home every day I was like, you know, I'm not making.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Really much money, but oh my god, I feel good.

Speaker 12 (51:17):
You know, I'm doing things that make a real difference
in people's lives.

Speaker 11 (51:21):
So rewarding and fulfilling.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
And in Voke Rehab it was going through, you know,
some major changes at the state level which needed to
be made, and I could see writing on the wall
that there was not something where I was going to
go start my own re Voke rehub. Company and be
entrepreneurially make money. That was going away, but I still
wanted to do something along those lines. So I decided
that I was going to become either a high school

(51:47):
or college counselor.

Speaker 11 (51:49):
So did you get to there, to the centric, to
your to your current.

Speaker 12 (51:52):
Business totally by accident, like everything else in life.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
So I, Uh.

Speaker 12 (51:58):
My wife at the time was working for San Berdino
County Schools and it was a good idea for her
career wise to go get a master's degree in education.

Speaker 11 (52:07):
Is it the same one you?

Speaker 12 (52:09):
Yes, I've only had one wife, and so we decided
she talked me into going to school with her, and
so went to University of Redlands, got a master's degree
in educational counseling, and while I was doing that, wound
up finding a job with the County of.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Riverside in the Gain program.

Speaker 12 (52:34):
So it was as an education as an employment services counselor.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
That's where I started.

Speaker 12 (52:38):
Out, so very similar to what I was doing in
Big Rehab, but this was for assisting people who were
on welfare find jobs, find better jobs, start careers, become
self sufficient. The whole idea behind that program, and it
was a lot of fun I loved the culture. So
when I started, I was like, Okay, I'll work here

(53:01):
until I get my degree, because there's no way I'm
gonna work with a whole bunch of lazy, no good
government employees and so yeah, and I discovered that they
were the most dedicated, hard working professional people I'd ever
worked with in my life.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
So yeah.

Speaker 12 (53:17):
I stayed there for seventeen years, and working for the
county was truly a blessing. I got to do many,
many different jobs, all with the same employer. My plan
was to retire from the County of Riverside, so I
got to be an employment services counselor. I got to

(53:38):
become an analyst for the assistant director of the Department
of Public Social Services, then moved over to the County
Executive Office, where I was responsible for all the policy
for Oh no, so I I was responsible for all

(54:00):
the health and Human services departments budgets policy items, which
was really scary because I was a marketing major.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
I had the least amount of financing accounting of.

Speaker 12 (54:10):
Any degree, but I was responsible for a third of
the budget. Yes, I did learn, and then became the
administrative director for the Community Health Agency, so provided support
all the administrative support for public health, environmental health, and
animal services. Two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine
happened and I got told that we're going to restructure things.

(54:35):
So my job was going to go away, and my
entire division was going to go away. So I had
six months to eliminate my job. My division started working
for the hospital, so I was an assistant hospital director
and then for three days I was an assistant ITA
because in the meantime I was offered a job by IEHP.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
So I took that job, worked.

Speaker 12 (55:00):
There for about seven years, and then decided that it
was time for me to go. I was involved in
some really neat strategic projects, including creating the UH the
Inland Empires, working with two one one they have an
online system for for finding resources, and yeah, working with

(55:22):
the United Way Greg Bradbard at the time, and then
started their homeless program internally, and so I really then
wanted to go do not for profit homeless stuff. Yeah,
and so I left i e h P. I got
a job with the County of Orange. I applied for
they had a director position for the homeless and housing programs.

(55:46):
I came in second and so then became the director
of administration for no but you know, so I supported
then that department and then unfortunately, the the month I
started working there, my wife was diagnosed with stage four cancer.
So they were great allowing me to commute and you know,

(56:09):
do the stuff that needed to be done. But then
when her tree been changed, I left and then started
working for Citrus Counseling Services, which was right in town,
very supportive and again one of those organizations that does
incredibly meaningful work. We do, you know, everything is a

(56:29):
relationship wise, right, so you know, doing things with couples,
with families, uh, and we specialize in very young children
zero to five and also trauma.

Speaker 10 (56:40):
So you know, that's an amazing story. Roger and I
learned so much, but I wanted to take a quick
pity of it because we're down to our last three
or four minutes left. I want to talk about the
River Redlands Area inter Faith Council and upcoming Thanksgiving.

Speaker 12 (56:53):
Absolutely, yeah, so you know what, some of the coolest
things about work looking for Citrus Counseling Services is being
able to be involved with a whole bunch of community
things which I didn't feel like I could do so
much when I was working for a government entity, of course,
so my favorite things to do working for this company.

(57:13):
Some of my favorite things is I'm the president of
the Redlands Area Interfaith Council, which is really cool because
that actually started this particular organization, Citrus Counseling Services in
nineteen seventy eight. And then also I'm part of the
Rotary Club of Redlands, Service Club Council and Redlands so
all good stuff. But the Redlands Area Interfaith Council, we've

(57:37):
got two major events that always happen every single year.
One of them is the Mayor's pro Breakfast that happens
in the spring. And then we also have a Thanksgiving
celebration that happens every year.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
So it's a.

Speaker 12 (57:50):
Multi denominational, just beautiful celebration that happens. There's pies, it's
dessert to wear into that, so it's uh. It rotates
every year to different faith communities. This year it's going
to be at the first United Methodist Church on I

(58:11):
believe it's one of East Olive Street in Redlands on Sunday,
November the sixteenth, from four to six.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Everybody is welcome to come out.

Speaker 12 (58:23):
We're Krista Newkirk, the president of UCR is going to
be our speaker, our keynote speaker, and then we've got
amazing music and amazing readings from different people from different
faith communities. And it's really a celebration of thanksgiving and
gratitude and community and community to say that.

Speaker 9 (58:43):
You got you both have an incredible story. Thank you
so much for coming on the show this evening. You
have wonderful and this.

Speaker 11 (58:49):
Is a great show.

Speaker 9 (58:50):
Dude, totally definitely would you like to close out one?

Speaker 10 (58:53):
Yeah, before we close out, just to say, how can
people connect? I know that Redlands Area inter Faith Council
does have a Facebook page, a.

Speaker 12 (59:00):
Faceboopet right now, the best thing to do is look
at the website. There's no registration or anything to come
to this. Everybody is welcome to come participate in the
celebratory thing afterwards, because.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
You know it's faith community.

Speaker 12 (59:14):
We have to eat afterwards, right, so we will have
pies and and coffee and tea and so forth.

Speaker 9 (59:24):
Radio show and we all ad a.

Speaker 10 (59:35):
But this.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
We're on board.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
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in the age.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Notice her behind

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Working in the margins really high