[ENG] ☕ Il Caffe' Dell' Alchimista- Coffee with the Alchemist ⚗️ Lance Hitchings

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today we are going to have a coffee with the
Lance Itchings. Lance is a longevity bioacer and a longevity activist. Lance,
at sixty years old in two thousand and nine, realized
that something was not going as intended. Now he's seventy

(00:24):
five years old and is better than ever. In this episode,
we will talk about simplicity, how everything started for Lance
reaching the Rejuvenator Olympics number twelve. We will talk about

(00:44):
gold settings, setbacks, and the importance of processes.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
With Lance.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
We will talk about stem cell therapy and how it.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Worked for him.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Will dwelve into rehalm of the supplements and what's the
best for him?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It is not.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Now you're the coffee is quite ready and so without
further Ado, let's welcome Lands Etchings and job.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thanks Lance for being here today. So the reason why
I reached I reached out to you is because we
hear many many voices around the web longevity bio hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I come mainly from from bioarching.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
So but I met you and I was really interesting
and trigged about your the way the simplicity or you
you are able to make complex topics into very simple
words and transmit a sense of security, and I really
appreciate you your your being here today.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Thank you. I appreciate that. And you know, I just
want to I want to stay right from the beginning
that you know, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a scientist,
I'm not a researcher. I have no you know, real
scientific background or training. You know, my career was was
in advertising and marketing. I was I was an art
director and a creative director. And so you know, my

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you know, my my authority, if you want to call
it that, my my, you know, the thing that gives
me the knowledge that I have is just simply the
fact that you know, I'm seventy five years old, and
I have been interested in longevity and have been pursuing
longevity and longevity practices and a longevity lifestyle, and I've

(02:46):
gotten some what I think at least are some pretty
amazing results out of that pursuit, and I just decided
I wanted to share that with the people. So I
don't I don't, you know, I don't pretend to be,
you know, a scientist or doctor or anything like that,
but you know, I've I've gotten pretty good results and
I want to share those with people and you know,

(03:08):
I've listened to a lot of voices on the Internet
and other places, and the problem that I have when
I'm listening to these voices is that a lot of
people who are scientists and doctors and researchers tend to
speak in a way that for the common man, for
the common for the lay person, it's really hard to understand,

(03:28):
you know. And so it was just, you know, I
just decided, you know, I want to speak to people
in a way that they can understand and explain some
of these you know, complex concepts to them in a
way that they can understand, and hopefully, you know, they'll
be able to implement the same practices or similar practices
that I've implemented and get similar results.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, you have out successfully to channel. We will
link everything into the show notes. So you have said
you are seventy five. You mentioned you are seventy five,
and I include because you I mean, you started in
another sector. When did you start and why into longevity?
So what's your motivation behind your change or you switch?

(04:11):
I don't know, changed, you change your mind or it's
something switched.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Right right right, So I'll be honest. It was kind
of a low kind of a slow, long process for me.
It started in two thousand and nine and I was
just about to turn sixty and I was going to
my exif's birthday party, which was on July fourth that year,

(04:37):
and I was getting ready to go to her party,
and I looked in the mirror and I was and
she was turning sixty. We were the same age, so
she was turning sixty that day, and I knew that
I was turning sixty the next month. And it was
like I looked in the mirror and I was like,
I did I did not like what I saw looking
back at me. I was I was vastly over. I

(04:59):
waited to one hundred and seventy pounds, so as I was,
I was fat. I had no strength, I had no endurance,
I had no stamina. My health, I my I didn't
have very good health, you know. Uh. And I just
I just realized watching myself getting worse and worse and
worse and worse for a long time, and it's time

(05:20):
to do something about it. I'm sixty years old. If
I don't do something about it now, I never will.
And so it started out as just, you know, I
was just trying to lose weight. That's all I was
trying to do. And for about I guess eight or
nine years, that weight just kind of yo yo, it went.

(05:40):
It went up and then it went back down. I
lost it, and it went up and back down. And
it wasn't until probably about twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen
that I kind of changed my approach because I had
my goal was to lose weight. That was my goal,
and I lose the weight and then I go, hey,

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I've achieved my goal. Now I can go back to
living the lifestyle that I was living before. And as
soon as I do that, it all come back on again.
And so I realized that what I really needed to
do was change my goals, and so I adopted a
goal of changing my lifestyle. That was my goal. I'm
going to change my lifestyle because I knew that I
needed to make these changes permanent. And that's kind of

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when it really started to make it a difference. And
so when I started really seeing the effects of that
different goal and seeing, you know, how much change I
brought about in myself, that kind of inspired me to
want to share that with other people. And so when
I started my YouTube channel, it wasn't really about longevity.

(06:46):
It was about men's health, and in you know, researching
material to do videos on, I kind of just stumbled
across longevity and I started getting more and more and
more into that and gradually over I mean pretty rapidly,

(07:06):
actually it was. It was probably a period about six months.
It went from being a men's health channel to a
channel that was all about longevity.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
That very very cool. And did you touch a very
important point.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
It is about goals, because we know about smart goals. Okay,
but you mentioned a very good point which is when
you see a final end goal which is not the process,
is just a number or something that this is something
wrong because you you reach your number, your goal which

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was in.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Goal, and then you you did not have the mechanism
of the process.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
So then you turn into having your process, which is
the longevity lifestyle being the goal. Ultimately, when you reach this,
you have you have your your framework. You you you proceeded,
you you go this way. That's very very very good point.
This this is very common. Happened to me as well,
and it's very common. But I assume you you have

(08:06):
set back, so your challenges, so yeah, and what how
did you start and what are the main challenges. We
don't just to understand the main challenges someone may face
when starting turning live stick.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Sure. So the main challenge is that a longevity lifestyle
is really hard. You know. In fact, I had a
client just recently, you know, come to me after he'd
been on my doing my course for a couple of weeks,
and he said, you didn't tell me this was going
to be so hard, And I was like, yeah, I
kind of did. You just weren't listening. Yeah, that's that's

(08:46):
the biggest problem. And you know, as a result it,
you know, I've I've fallen off the longevity wagon several times,
and it's it's, you know, there's that lure of of
my old lifestyle, the all the way I was doing
things that keeps kind of like wanting to pull me back.
And sometimes, you know, you know things are going good

(09:07):
and that's pretty easy to resist. And then sometimes you
know things are going are not going so well, and
it can be very difficult to resist. And sometimes I
found for me because I don't have a lot of discipline,
that's some people have a ton of discipline, like Brian Johnson,
you know, he's he's a he's a longevity bio hacker,
and he's just got an iron will. I mean, he

(09:28):
just you know, and I don't have that kind of
I don't have that kind of will that will power,
you know, And so I I fallen off lalling jevery
wagons several times. Here's the thing that is my saving
grace though, it's consistency. It's like, if you fall off
the wagon, there's no reason to beat yourself up for
falling off the wagon because it's something that almost everybody

(09:50):
does except Brian Johnson. The thing that is going to
make the difference is that you get back on the
wagon again, you know, stumbling and falling and it is
just inevitable. It's going to happen. It happens to everybody.
Everybody has obstacles, everybody has things get in their way.
Everybody falls off the wagon. That's just you know life.

(10:12):
The thing that makes a difference is that every time
you do that, you go, Okay, I'm going to get
back on the wagon again. And you get back on
the wagon again, you start doing the exercise and you
start paying more attention to your diet and you know,
to me, that's the thing that makes a difference is
it doesn't matter how many times I fall off the wagon,
every time I get back on again.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's the that's the point, because we are human after
all that and basically we we we we need to
expect something like that to occur because life, life is
is life. So for instance, in my case where I
peak of stress, city way stressful periods and external stress
sorce due to a work of family or something like that.

(10:56):
And this this on top of the lifestyle which is
not really relaxed rest and relaxes, so is it's hard.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
And then I face also this domino effect.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
So when I was failing one of the pieces in
the in the lifestyle, then I was just everything was
falling down. So it was like, okay, I did hid
this chip set this so okay, I don't do this.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I don't do this. So the important thing is to
keep keep.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Back, being back and question about support because you're talking
about communities. I know that there are many communities now
many are linked to to Brand Johnson's zero community and
a part of many communities including bio hacking, meetups, et cetera.
But do you think the communities are helping people or

(11:46):
giving some accountability or do you did you have.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Anyone at the beginning helping you.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, I absolutely think that
community makes all the difference. It can make all the difference. Uh,
you know, this can be really hard to do by yourself.
And believe me, I know because I don't really have
much of a support community. I've pretty much done it
by myself. Uh, and so I I know just how

(12:16):
hard it is to do it by yourself. And so
having having a community of people who you know you
can talk to, you can you know, you can go
to when you've fallen off the wagon and you need
a little help getting back on that, that makes a
lot of difference.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
So, yeah, this is a point that that that for
the listeners that they need I think joining any community
having this accountability partners and that then this may you
touched a little bit about it. We're talking about Brian
Johnson and is you talk about consistency, but is really
will power or extreme will power more more robotic than humans?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Do you think that will power is a factor?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
And how hard is to keep what you're doing when
you do in a social life, because when you have
a lifestyle like longevity lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And then we will go diepen into into what does
it mean?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
But then you need to interact with people with social
human and so social people. So how do you think
that you face this will power versus social life in
your experience?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, you know, uh, you know, everybody's got a different
approach to it. Like I said, Brian Johnson's got you know,
kind of an iron discipline that I just don't possess.
And so for me, I try not to beat myself up. Now,
you know, I make it okay if you know, occasionally
when I go out and and interact with other people,

(13:47):
it's okay for me. I make it okay for me
to occasionally, you know, have a drink or to eat
something that's not on my regular routine. And I just
kind of look at it as like a cheat day. It's,
you know, because I know that this is kind of
a one off. It's it's something that happens pretty rarely.
And you know, the way I look at it is

(14:07):
that if it happens rarely, it's it's not going to
have that big of an impact on me. Here's the
problem though, Here's the here's the here's the issue with
that is that it's really easy to slip from doing
it rarely at every just every once in a while
to doing it all the time. It's kind of like
if you're an alcoholic and you have a drink and

(14:30):
one drink turns into ten, and you know, it becomes
a problem. So you have to be on the lookout
for that kind of behavior in general. You know, My
approach is that it's okay to have an occasional two
day I kind of look at them as rewards. It's
kind of like, you know, you've been good for a month. Now,
now you're going to have this thing that you love

(14:50):
to eat. It's you know, it's not good for you,
but it's kind of a reward for good behavior.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
So that this this is uh, this is interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
It's one approach, but it depends on people, the person,
I mean, how to manage it. Because of course you
are aware and responsible of the present.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
You don't know what is going on tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
So if tomorrow there is a birthday cake and the
office and then there will be and then you know, okay, the.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Day after you don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
But if the day after you have I don't know,
someone else inviting you for sef So it's very risky.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
This point because sooner or later, you you need you
have to say no stop.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
If not, you just derail and your your routine and
the most recent one and again then we will talk
about has changed and the major changes from from the past.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Just well, you know, it's it's ever evolving. You know,
it's it's a process. We were talking earlier about goals
and can't have having this end goal and for me,
it you never get to the end goal. It's it's
always a process. It's always ongoing. It's and and one

(16:05):
of the reasons for that is because there's new discoveries.
You know, the the science moves, it's a moving target
and they're always discovering new things. And you know, I'll
read about something that has just been newly discovered and go, oh,
that's kind of cool. I need to incorporate that into
my lifestyle and so you know, I make some changes

(16:25):
to accomplish that. So it's you know, it's it's a
moving target and it's always evolving. So that's okay if
that answered your question or not.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Mean more but practically because I'm good to know more
practically as but a one point, because remember I like
when people are also changing their mind because you know,
the Internet, or when you write a book, for instance,
it is static, so it does remain the Internet. You
have YouTube channels, you have videos that are in the past,

(17:00):
in present, and would be in the future, so that
you may see something that is out outdated or something
that you maybe don't believe anymore, or there is new science.
So changing your mind in this field, I think is
is reasonable based.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
On Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know, there's also the factor
that a lot of the changes that I make are
in response to how my body is reacting to what
I'm already doing. So I get tested a lot. I
do all kinds of tests and and you know, I
check in, you know, on a pretty frequent basis to
see how I'm doing. And sometimes you know, it's like, oh,

(17:39):
I was doing this to fix this, but this isn't
really getting fixed. I need to change it up. I
need to do something different if I really want to
fix this or optimize it, and so I'll adjust my
plan to you know, kind of take that into consideration.
So it's not just the science that's changing, it's also
paying attention to my body and what's going on in
my body and making it Estments because something's working or

(18:02):
something's not working.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, perfect, And the body is changing over time as well,
so they something that is working in the twenties thirties
may not work in the seven decents.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So this isn't yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
And what kind of in time of testing you mentioned roughly,
I assume you do a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
What Yeah, so right now I'm doing. Uh. There's an
organization here in the state. It's called Life Extension. It's
a Life Extension Foundation, and they offer a lot of supplements,
but they also offer a lot of tests. And so
that's kind of who I go to to get my
blood tests. Uh, and it's it's a pretty comprehensive panel

(18:43):
of tests and I do that about every six months.
I also go to True Diagnostic. They do an epigenic
aging test and uh, but they do a lot more
they you know, I've I've done a lot of different
epigenetic aging tests. In fact, I in a video where
I I think I I test drove about six different

(19:04):
uh epigenetic aging tests. And True Diagnostics is really kind of,
in my opinion, head and shoulders above the rest because
they offer so many different reports on what's going on
in your body. It's it's really comprehensive. I do. There's
a company called uh G Infinity and they do they

(19:26):
do Sinesse cell testing and they do they test for
your n A D plus levels. So I do that
just you know, to see where that is. I also
do UH. I do VO two max testing. UH I
get I get UH occasionally about once a year, I
get a Dexas scan to see what my body UH

(19:47):
fat percentages and and my muscle mass. I do UH
what's called an in body scan, which is basically it's
a very different way of measuring but it's it measures
kind of the same stuff and it's much much less expensive.
So I do that on come up on a monthly basis,
just to kind of see what that's going on. I mean,
just off the top of my head. That's that's a
lot of the tests that I do. So you know,

(20:09):
it's it's there's a lot of different things going on
and a lot of different tests that masure these different things,
and so you kind of have to seek them out
and figure out which things you want to test and
who does that and.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, we got not everyone can do these kind of
tests every regularly, or that I assume some of them
are very expensive, some of some other are less expensive.
So I think in terms of blood work, blood exams,
So what what do you think are the the the
big ones in terms of longevity link to the one

(20:43):
that you you you are under control under your rather
deference to longevity.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well, there's a lot of them. I mean, so you know,
I look at hormones to see what, you know, what
my test osterone level is, my pree test oscerone, uh
dial progesterone, cortisol. I look at those I growth you know, uh,
human growth hormone. I look at uh, you know, my

(21:11):
immune system. So you know, I get you know, like
it's basophylls and neutrophils and and all the different you know,
white blood cells, all those what those levels are doing?
You know, like like like uh what the blood work
is like the red blood cells?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know, uh about protein A and B. I look
at C reactive protein. I get my blood work back,
and it's like a six page report.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Do you track everything over time? Right?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And I do? I have I build out a spreadsheet,
and you know, I I put in the date and
all the results and then I look at you know,
because that's kind of really The most important part is
it's not so much what's happening at one moment in time,
it's how it's trending. And so you know, if you
can look at you know, like I've got five years
of blood tests now, and I can see, you know,

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how things are trending, and you know, if something is
just slowly creeping up, you know, getting it tested one time,
it might still be in the optimal range. But if
I look at the last six tests and see that
each time it's getting a little bit higher and a
little bit higher and a little bit higher, it might
still be optimal. But I can see, you know, it's

(22:29):
going up. I need to get that back down.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Agin and and again. Then coming back to your routine
and what you do practically about reference to Pareto principle,
So what do you think eighty twenty principles, So the
twenty percent you do that is giving the eighty percent
of results. So the big rocks someone has to take

(22:53):
to start Because you mentioned tests, a lot of tests
and invention.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
There are many many things that someone can do.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
But I think that your expedience exercise exercise, Yeah, the
first thing.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Absolutely, absolutely, I mean, you know, so let me just
say this. I'm a firm believer in doing all the things.
You know, you got to do everything that you can,
because if you ignore one thing and it gets really bad,
that's the thing that's going to kill you. That's the
thing that's going to put you in the grave. So
you've got to do all the things. Having said that,
the biggest bang for the buck, in my opinion, is exercise.

(23:32):
And the way my approach to exercise is that there
are three types of exercise you need to do. You
need to do mobility training because you need to keep
your flexibility up, your mobility up. Loss of mobility is
one of the biggest risk factors for all cause mortality
in older individuals, so you know, and that's kind of

(23:53):
the one that gets ignored the most. Most people don't
put a lot of energy into into their mobility, so
that's kind of why I mentioned it. First. You need
to do strength training. You know. Strength training will you know,
defeat cyclopania, which is a loss of muscle mass. It
will defeat osteopenia, which eventually will become osteoporosis, and it

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will also increase your mobility because you need the strength
to pull those joints through their full range of motion.
I also do a lot of cardio. Cardio. You know,
among other things, it's great for losing weight, especially high
intensity interval training. It's also you know, it's it boosts
the cardiovascular system, and cardiovascular disease is really the number

(24:41):
one killer you know, of everybody across the world. And
so if you can improve your cardiovascular health, that's going
to make a huge difference in your longevity. I do
both steady state cardio and I do high intensity interval training,
which are two very different types of exercise, but they
each have a benefit that the does not have. In fact,

(25:02):
that's true of all the types of exercise I mentioned.
They each have certain benefits that they bring that the
others don't have, and they also have benefits that they
bring that no other you know, supplements won't bring it,
nutrition won't bring it. You know. I know a lot
of people really don't like to exercise, but if you
want to live a long time, that's the one thing

(25:23):
that you really really need to do. And I also
want to say this, I bring a lot of intensity,
I guess to my exercise. I mean, like I have
a lot of people that I coach that are working out,
but they only work out one or two days a
week and they don't work out that hard. And it's like, no,

(25:44):
you got to work out. You got to do something
every day, and you need to work out hard. You
need to be out of breath, you need to be panting,
you need to be huffing and puffing. You need to
be breaking out a sweat. I mean like it needs
to be just pouring off your body. You need to
bring up a lot of intensity to your exercise to
get the kind of changes that exercise can bring. There's,

(26:04):
you know, every other longevity strategy that I know of,
there's like it's kind of like either you're doing it
or you're not doing it, and if you're doing it,
you're getting the benefit, and if you're not, you're not.
Exercise is not just that, it's like how much you
do or how hard you how much intensity you bring
to it makes a difference. And I've read numerous reports

(26:25):
that say that there is continued benefits, added benefits. The
more exercise you do, the more hours you do a week,
the more benefits you'll get, and that the cutoff for
that is about I think I read it was like
twenty two hours or something like that. So an I'll
emit that's I don't do twenty two hours of exercise.

(26:47):
I don't you know other than elite athletes, I don't
know anybody who does. But still the point is that
the more exercise you do, the more benefits you'll get.
Up to about twenty two hours a week. So you know,
that really says to me that, uh, you know, it's
almost impossible to do enough exercise.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, I agree, unless you over exercise you.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, the risk case is to yes, to give too much,
too much, but yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
And you have to be smart about it. I mean,
if you're you have not exercised and you're just start now,
you know, take it easy, take baby steps, start out
with something that's not that challenging, because if you're just
starting out, the thing that you want to do is
you want to develop consistency. You want to be able
to get into the habit of exercising. And what exercise

(27:37):
you're doing, is it nearly is important as getting into
the habit, and then as you become used to doing it,
then start up in it and making it more and
more challenging.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Do you miss out any and do you have any
indicator for recovery like HRB or something that is.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I wear I wear a whoop, which is a I
actually lost it at the at the at the festivals
at t and so I need to get a new one.
But yeah, that's but you know, or rings, Apple watch.
I mean, there's a lot of different fitbit that, there's
a lot of different devices that will record HRV. I
just happen to use the whoop, But I think that's important.

(28:13):
You know, it's it's not the end all be all,
And I've read a lot of literature, you know that's
kind of bringing HRV into question about how important it
really is. So it's just, you know, it's one of
the things that I keep track of. But you know,
in my experience, when it says that you know, my
HRV is is down and I'm not that recovered, that

(28:37):
pretty much is in alignment with how I'm feeling in
my body. So you know, I believe in it.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So I'm saying, if the accuracy is good, it's still
indicator of a physiological stress the COVID, So we need
to pay attention eventually not to exceed they over overstressed
the body. This is this is important, and I fully
agree with it right. First point, you mentioned it about
exercise because that there is still a head to add

(29:03):
with diet, nutrition and nutrition exercise are ye, But yeah,
I fully agree in the quite recently, in the recent years,
I think also Peter a change in mind that from
the beginning was first diet and exercise. Now exercise and
then diet. But the good thing. But this is linked
to your client at the beginning. There are many people
that think that supplements are the first thing, so it

(29:26):
should be the last. I like to say, it's supplementing
something that you're already doing. But of course it's it's
not hard. I mean, it's it's easier to take a
supplement that than doing.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Sure art exercise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I've read
about different supplements that kind of mimic the effects of exercise.
But the thing is they don't mimic all the effects.
They mimic one effect. And so I get that people
would rather take a pill than go out an exercise
and break a sweat. But but you know, that pill

(29:59):
might be one or two benefits, whereas exercise, I mean,
you know, in my opinion, it literally brings I don't know,
maybe not hundreds, but a huge number of benefits that
some of them is just not gonna mimic nutrition.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
So do you have any any specific way of eating
or you follow something or just what's your philosophy or
your approach to nutrition.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah. My my approach is whole foods. You know, stay
away from anything that's processed or refined, anything that's you know,
grown or manufactured in a factory environment. Yeah, in my opinion,
if you can afford to eat organic, that's the path
you should follow. You know. I all my all my meals,

(30:49):
I make them from scratch, you know, I I I
there's a few things that I get that are that
are refined or processed, but they're still kind of organic.
They're still minimally processed. So that's that's that's my number
one rule is is just you know, stay away from,

(31:10):
you know, any foods that have been pre pre prepared
or prepackaged or uh you know, uh highly refined or
holly process have a lot of additives added to them,
like preservatives and artificial foods and artificial colors and flavorings.
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, the chases back to the basic Like then the
grandma grandma food, I mean, that's that's interesting. Then we're
looking into what you do. I was really culous. I
talked about some other things like maybe we can touch
basically the medid in blue, other stuff like the light therapy.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
You see I have read the Light yea still still.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Non also with Nobody the Gray and then my lasts podcast.
But you you did some stem cell therapy and pass
can you can you explain first think what is that
in particular plasm math fartasis and why you did it
and what have the advantages?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
So well, you know, do you want me to taking
them like one at a time explaining like therapy is okay? Yeah,
so uh yeah. So first off, I just want to
say I was very very fortunate in that a clinic
that does stem cell therapy contacted me and wanted me
to do some work for them. They have they had

(32:31):
a bunch of you know, like new doctors coming into
the into the clinic, and and they had they learned
nothing about nutrition or longevity or you know that kind
of medicine in med school, and so they wanted me
to kind of create a curriculum of material that when
they came into the clinic they could watch it and
kind of get up to speed. And so kind of

(32:53):
in exchange for doing that, they offered me stem cell therapy,
and so I did that. I flew down to Kasher week,
had to get the stem cell therapy done, and and honestly,
I I gotta be honest with you, I was not
expecting that big of a change. I didn't expect it
to have as much of an impact on my health

(33:17):
and my and my life as it did. So that
was kind of a a kind of a pleasant surprise.
Now I also did plasma foresis and plasma. So stem
cell therapy is, you know, they just simply there's several
different ways they can do it. They can extract stem

(33:37):
cells from your own body, multiply multiply them, yeah, and
then put them back in. You can also get stem
cells that have been uh uh taken from like umbilical cords.
Uh that that kind of like mesenchymal stem cells. And
uh so there's several different procedures or are ways of

(33:58):
collecting them. The one that I went to they did both.
And they're they're right next to like Costa, Rica's largest hospital,
and and so they they literally you know, like were
there when somebody gave birth, collected the umbilical cords, walked
them back over to their lab and extracted them. And

(34:18):
most stem cell therapy clinics, I believe, get their stem
cells from a lab somewhere, and and stem cells don't
stand up very well to shipping and sore. The viability
rate goes way way way down. So having having access
to that kind of of source was really kind of
a game changer, I think. Then they did the plasma foraresis,

(34:43):
which they basically extracted plasma from my blood and then
and then replaced it with with saline solution with some albumen,
which is a protein added to it. And basically what
that does is that you know, uh, if you think
of of like a fish tank, where you get an

(35:06):
aquarium or a fish tank with clean water in it
and fish and you never cleaned it out, the water
just gets dirtier and dirty and dirtier until it, you know,
the fish dye and and and that's kind of what's
going on in in in our in our systems, so
there's there's no outlet. I mean, I realized that the
kidneys kind of filter the blood and the liver as well,

(35:27):
but to some extent, it's it's a closed system. And
so there's no way for a lot of these things
to get out. And so what what the plasma paresis does.
It's kind of like changes in your oil. Because I
saw the plasma that came out and it was it
was a little it was a little gross looking, and
so they replace it with with with clean saline solution

(35:50):
with some albumen added, and it's just kind of like
a freshening, like I said, like changing your oil or
something like that. And I had both the stem cell
therapy and the plasma paresis is done within the same visit,
and so I don't know which of those procedures was

(36:11):
most responsible for the changes that I experienced, But you know,
I came back from the first procedure and just like
everything was different. I felt I had more energy. My
athletic performance took a big boost. I was able to
turn in faster times, longer times, I could work out

(36:33):
harder and stronger. Some of the effects took place, I
mean like literally almost immediately, I mean like within a
day or two, and some of them took a little
bit longer, like up to a month to kick in,
and they lasted for you know, quite a while. Some
of them fade started to fade after about six months

(36:56):
to a year. Some of them have not faded at all.
Some of them are still like I did the first
one two years ago, and some of them, some of
the things I experienced, are still expressing themselves. So I
went the second time and had some other procedures done.
I had a facial treatment done, which honestly, that one

(37:17):
I expected to get nothing from I. I really was
very skeptical about about the facial treatment. And I had
a lot of like creepy skin. So if you're if
you're an older person, you you you understand what it's
like to have creepy skin on your neck. It's and
that went away. It it like And I did that

(37:40):
a little over a year ago and it still has
not returned.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
So but this is some but this is getting injecting.
I mean with this stem cell again, that was the
stem cells. Yes, local so okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I like.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I also and you know, as as a guy who's
seventy five years old, I one of one of the
things that I suffer from is a rectile dysfunction. And
so uh it's you know, I've I've talked a lot
about ED on my channel I've talked about a lot
of different cures or not cure so much, but treatments
are ways to deal with it. And I tried a

(38:20):
lot of different things, and uh, when I went down
to r M I and had their ed procedure done,
that made a difference. That really, that really made a difference.
I was, I was. I expected that one to work.
I just was surprised by how well it worked.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I don't know the cost, but because you you had
to this this opportunity, but the accessibility, because you mentioned
you had to go to Costa Rica, And honestly, I
don't know in Europe, what's.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
The situation where you you can do this? If you
can do it, I I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
This is interesting to die those who are to the
states of the treatment that are available and so there
you have results.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Okay, this is again and an equal to one expedience.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Again, but right there are many things that are universally applicable.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Okay, So so that's that's I.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I've seen your videos about mending in blue and red
light that there was about the red light you mentioned
the beginning you have no red light?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Did you? Did you get one? No?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
They're there there there you know, honestly, they're a little
bit outside of my budget. So my experience with red
light therapy is is kind of from literature. Uh, you know,
what I know about red light theory therapy is from
studies that I've read, from talking to people who have

(39:53):
done red light therapy. I can't speak from experience in
that area because I haven't done red light therapy because
quite long, it's it's kind of a little bit outside
of my budget. Same thing for like hyperbaric oxygen chambers.
You know, I'm doing and I'm preparing a video on
HPOT and again it's not it's not something I've done.
I've done. I've talked to a lot of people who

(40:14):
have done h BOT. I have some clients who have
done h SPOT, so I I know what their experiences are,
but I don't have any personal experience with that. Now
I have done it. I have done methylene blue. Yeah,
it's really inexpensive.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, what's your your feedback? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, I do it regularly every two twice weekend.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah. Yeah, Uh, I like it, you know it. You know,
every time I do it, you know, I get like
kind of a little boost and energy and and and
my cognition. I think it affects the condition as well.
You know, it just things seem a little clearer. So
if I'm going to do something where I'm like today,
you know, for this interview, one of the things I

(40:59):
did your preparation the surview was taking medline blue. It
just it just makes me a little bit sharper, a
little bit more in touch.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, same same, And you know that because they crossed
the blow brain barrier, and then in conjunction with the
red light therapy is also so synergistic effect.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Very very interesting.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
And uh and now I was really curious, and I
link the videos from letter red Light arap you did
and Medical in Blue and in the show notes and in.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
The middle of Blue.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I was really curious because it's very a long history
and was I think the first drug buttoned to treat
the malaria something.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, it's a long history and.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
The strange that was used for jeans and recently, someone
interviewing Brian Johnson, he mentioned about medicalan Blue.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Jonso replied that he was thinking about I don't know now,
so very very very interesting.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
So is there anything else you want to cover in
this moment in time and what's going on? Over these
different studies said there is a reason study about there's looking.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, you know, if there, if there was, you know,
it would probably be some sort of supplement. I mean,
you know, there's a lot of supplements. I mean, there's
so many supplements. You know. I think that like, uh,
touring is a good supplement to take glenak. You know,
I was just watching a video with Ronda Patrick where

(42:31):
she was talking about Omega three and how important Omega
threes are, and I agree with that. Most people that
I'm aware of who are really into this kind of
longevity lifestyle are just taking like a fistful of supplements
every day. They're there there, that's that's probably They're probably
spending more money on supplements than just about anything else.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
You don't see.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
But I have plenty of supplements. I have a cabinet
full of supplements. Of course, I'm not taking everything at
the same time, and.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And a lot of my
cycle a lot of them. You know, some of them
I'm cycling maybe every week, some of them I'm cycling
every month. Some of them I'm cycling like every six months.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
So some of them have more longevity, some more more
cognitive function, but you mentioned touring, which is linked. Also, Okay,
we have studies and you you made a video think
as well, Glenac for I assume for the benefits.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Exactly creating, Creating is also.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, creating is a huge one.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, it's one of the few supplements that has that
is I mean, creating is really really well studied and
it's one of the few supplements where they have it's like,
this will make a difference, this will make you better.
You know, it's it's great for performance, but it's also
a really good neutropic. It's it's got great cognitive function.

(43:58):
So yeah, creating is way high on my list of
some moths.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, Sa'm same. What do you think about Barberine?
Now you thinking barberin.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Uh, I'm not at the moment. I've taken it in
the past. I actually like Burberine. I like it better
than met Foreman. They do. You know, they have a
kind of a similar similar function and that they control
blood sugar. I did not do well on met Foreman
and the biggest I mean, you know, it cost some
stomach upset, which is pretty common, but it also kind

(44:28):
of interfered with my performance when I was taking met foreman,
I could I could tell that my my performance when
I was working out was was downn and uh you know,
I was on it for several months and I finally
decided I'm not going to take it anymore, and I
quit taking it, and we're like, within less than a week,
my performance was back where it was.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
So if that is a problem between anabolic catabolic, so
generally just we are thinking generally all the supper men
and also calory restriction, all the intervention that tar target
the MPK. So the two antagonists just simplifying a lot,
which is you push more catabolic. Also, they recent study

(45:14):
the one about interlooking eleven that is basically if you
suppressed anabolic, yes it's this is linked to living longer.
But of course there should be a balance because because
if you example too much of this, then there's yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, yeah. I personally I feel like, you know, there
was this movement, you know, like it's like a pendulum, right,
it's it's over here and then it swings away over
to the other side. If you're talking about like the
emptre pathway and that kind of stuff. Obviously for hundreds
of not hundreds, but but for you know, decades. You know,

(45:54):
Western society has had nutrients have been in excess, We've
had more than a new and the human body, in fact,
all of biology, all animals evolve to kind of deal
in a fast and famine kind of a feast and
famine kind of environment where you nutrients would be plenty
and then they'd be scarce, and then they'd be plenty

(46:15):
and then they'd be scarce. And we evolved in a
way to take advantage of both of those states. You know,
eventually got to the point where we were just in
feast all the time, and so there was this movement
to kind of go restrict calories and move away from
that and get more into a catabolic kind of a state,
which I think is good and was needed. But it's

(46:36):
like you can't just live exclusively in that state either,
you need it needs to be both.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
So that's as do you do color restriction or intermitted
fasting or anything like this.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been doing intermittent fasting
for probably I mean, that's probably one of the longest
things I've been doing. I've been doing intermittent fasting almost
since I started losing weight back in two thousand and
nine sixteen eight ampted, Uh, yeah, you know, I started
out doing sixteen eight. Now I'm doing more like it's

(47:10):
actually getting a little extreme for me. I'm probably more
like twenty four or nineteen five something like.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
That, something like one mill of day.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Of course, if you do fifteen nine, I guess it's
not not not the end of the world, but right,
but it's basically one mill of day and which is
which is?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
And I tend to work out in a fasted state.
I don't know if that's good or bad, but that's
what I do. It has more to do with my
routine and you know, when when I work out, when
I eat.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, this is a full conversation and a lot of
what this is and personal, really personal.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
The important thing is to workout first thing. So you yeah,
you need to do it. Perfect a very good conversation.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
If there is nothing else you want like to cover
the now, how can our listeners reach out to you?
What I know that you have this longevity introduction course
and just tell us more about what you do and.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So uh, I you know,
I have a website. It's just my name Landsta things
dot com. You know, it's it's uh if you went
to landsatings right dot com right now, there is just
a template that's kind of a placeholder. I'm in the
process of building out my website, but it's goinda literally

(48:34):
going to be launching within the next probably two or
three days. Uh So if you just go to that
website and there's a ton of information there about about
the longevity course, you can purchase the course on my website.
I do longevity coaching, and you can book a phone
call from from my website to to talk to me

(48:55):
about if if you want me as a as a
longevity coach, So that would that would be probably the
easiest way to get a hold of me, or you know,
watch my YouTube channel again just lansage.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
I will link I will link everything into the show notes,
including the new new side. If you haven't need special
discount for listeners for your Digenity course, we will we
will post as well in the show notes.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
And I think that that's all from a side. Anything
else from you.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
No, I can't think of anything. I mean, you know,
we'll give me something I could I could go on
and talk about for ever. So there's there's always a
ton more to say, but I think we've we've we've
done a pretty good job of covering it.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
So continue the work.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I invite the listeners to follow you on YouTube, which
is very very very interesting and the way again you
explain things is very easy to for the majority. So again,
thank you for your time and Lance and we will
be in touched.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, thank you so much. I've enjoyed talking to you.
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