EP. 98 | 🍦G Milla🍦

This episode features a conversation with Toronto rapper G Milla, he discusses his new album 'Mr. Turner.' This is his first album in 4 years and he returns with a dynamic offering, littered with enlightening messages and candid storytelling. We discuss his personal growth and some of his interests outside the music.


G Milla is a huge meditator and shares his routine. This episode is filled with gems, a must-listen for anyone looking to self-improve.

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Episode Transcript

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Old man. So hey everyone,this is Noo. It's your boy,
Funky, the coolest teen rapper online. What's up? It's me ALFI.
You're listening to the Cool Table witha listening to the You're listening to the
Cool Table. You're listening to theCool Table. And I'm not sure if
you know this, but right nowyou're in the cut with my man Adril
Smile. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night.

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Welcome to the Cool Table. Wechallenge our guests to finish a top of
ice cream before the end of theconversation. My name is Adri Smiley aka
Adrilsmile dot com aka Adril Smiley Officialaka the Godfather, and we are here
with a special guests joining us forthe first time, breaking his fast with
us. So you don't take thatfor granted. Uh, mister Turner aka

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g Miller Miller it up. Tellme about this flavor you choices, cookies
and cream. I feel like it'sone of the easiest flavors as your go
to to have. Yeah, that'sthat's my that's my goal to ice cream.
This is like but I'm v gettoo right, So this is like
a vegan cookies and cream because yes, you know, oreoles is the best
vegan snack you can have. We'llget start with the oreoles I had.

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I had an ex that went veganwhile we were dating, and like we
started out eating wings together that youknow, that changed. But oreoles were
like her kryptonite and she wasn't readyto cook and all that right away.
Oh yeah, so I was justbuying pringles and oreoles. I cook a
lot. I cook so like,but if I'm snacking, your seaweed is

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my cryptonite. Seaweed is seaweed.Man. I had a seaweed face though,
fa like when I was younger,Like I went to school with a
lot of Koreans and it was likeseaweed Central, Kimchie seaweed. I'm gonna
go back as far as is necessary. You said that used to be fat

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before you found basketball. Oh yeah, how fat were you? I never
weighed myself because I was a littleyoung. But it was before before entering
high school. I was like,paint the picture. It's like little Tarrio,
like, yeah, no titties,okay, but they was they were
getting there. I was getting therein eighteen more months. Yeah, And

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I remember I had the the fatface, the fat cheeks tell you.
Yeah, so I remember that summershout out anti idio. She was like,
I was there at the house andwe was eating good. You know
remember those times that's like and thenyou found and then I found ball and
I stretched too. Yeah. Okay, oh my god, yeah, show

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you had to make over happenstance,Yes, sir, scream. The position
did you play when you played ball? It was weird. I had the
game of like a power forward,but I was too short for that.
Yeah. Yeah, but like positionshooting guard? Okay, so you were
a big bully shooting guard. Yeah, basically screwed, which is a great

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combination. That's a crazy combination.You never want to guard that guy,
are you stupid? Don't post mefrom the three point line. Well,
it wasn't the greatest at ball.Let me not say this on camera like
it was. Okay, but hedid enough like I did. Yeah,
he did nothing. One thing Ifeel like it's missing from your artistry is
that we're not getting enough drawing fromyou, because I know you have a

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passion for drawing. When are wegoing to get that kind of you know,
coming together with the wraps, becauseI feel like that is something that
the people would love to see fromyou. What do you mean by drawing,
like drawing statistically? Yeah, yeah, that's so crazy. I was
just doing that yesterday, Like,yeah, I mean I might try that
on another project, you know,might draw some some artwork. Yeah,

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this thing is I got to getinto the vibe. When I'm drawing.
My mind goes off like I'm notpaying at nothing, I'm just righting the
zoom. So it's it's definitely somethingyou should look forward to when I start.
Yeah. When I when I toldthat something that you did, I
was like, that's interesting because Ifeel like, especially the messages you have,
there's something there with the music.So yeah, we're going for that

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at some point for sure. Yeah. And then also like my imagination is
crazy, Like I was one ofthem kids who was like had his own
everybody had that time just playing withthe toys by themselves. Listen. I
was very very imaginative. Imagine this, so imagine my drawings. It was
like, that's what I'm saying.So yeah, I see something there and

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say I'm putting in the universe.I see something there. It's happening.
We're gonna do some checks, okay, because you know, there's some things
from your past if we got tomake sure it's still so good. Are
you still a big blue face fanblue face Yeah no, yeah no yeah
no, like I still fuck withthis ship beforehand, but like now like

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it's really dropped off the deep end. Yeah yeah, Do you still have
those black and orange dunks? Fuck? Ho about that drop to no fa?
Do I still have them? Yeah? Of course I still got them.
Yo. Those are my high schoolshoes. Yeah, it's funny.
We were talking about dunks for probablya few minutes before you got here.
I was s beat out like thatwas like I don't hear about Jordans at

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that time, Like in high school, I was dunk. Yeah, because
if you have Jordan's at that time, it was like average. In my
opinion, it kind of was becauseeveryone had and this is people don't know
what's air, but this air wherelike a certain foot locker would have the
same Jordan's and everyon would have likethe laser forest. Now the laser forests
are all really grayless. Like nah, you're saying, yeah, I mean

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with forest, don't get a twistthe forest. But the dunks, you
know, you could just wear itwith anything. Chris Kakis hit him.
So you still haven't you have moreof them in a while? No,
I don't anymore, done for itare done for? Still a fan of
the Doors one hundred percent, Stilla fan of Jim Morrison, The Door.

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I don't even know how it cameabout that, Like it was weird
because my music taste has always beenoff the edge. So like my friends
knew me as like a guy whowas just listening to whatever different ship,
and I introduced them to a lotof music, especially like Little b when
he came out too, you knowthat was a thing. Yeah, you
know a time is this? I'mlike, yeah, this is what I'm

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meant? Ricky Hill? Who elsedid I come at that time? The
Doors, Castle, Crystal Castles?Oh yeah, who else that come?
Wow? Yeah. My my musictaste is like basically like my drawing all
over all over? Yeah, Sodo you see like a future for some

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kind of mix with that? LikeI'm not saying full Lincoln Park jay zfor
Shoulder, but I do think there'ssomething there because you have all these different
interests in terms of music. Yeah, you know, how about that coming
into your music? Have you thoughtabout that at all? Over? Oh?
Yeah, yeah, I feel likethere's something there for sure. Yeah.
Yeah, No. I actually wasworking on some stuff with my boy
Yobi. We was just chopping somestuff. Check out Yobi's dope. We

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was just making some music the otherday and like it's just random drums and
guitars and were just making music andit's it's there for sure. It's there.
Yeah, because I see something thatI it's not. It's not awesome.
You see, like a real realhip hop fan is also a real
fan outside of hip hop because yougot your you got your boy J behind

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you. But I know you're abig NOAs fan. Yep, yeah,
that's that's your guy. What isyour kind of thoughts on this last run
of NOS, because I'm gonna giveyou my perspective. I saw Nas and
Concert, oh he did. Ididn't see right before the pandemic. It
was Nas and Mary Jo And thisis right when the Lost Tapes two came
out. So he didn't do noneof that. He just all he did

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was I put an album recently alsocheck it out back to the hits.
Basically was what it was right,not want, That's what I would want.
And then since then he's dropped withfive six albums that he probably has
like fifteen songs to perform. I'mfrom. So what do you think about
this new kind of part of hiscareer because this is almost like a third
career in a sense. Yeah,honestly, it's for It's for gods like

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us, you know, like wewe can take in nods on that level
because we know where he's coming from. We understand him. But this new
generation, yeah, it's not goingto ring for him, you know what.
Okay, cool, the King's disease, sure, you know, but
me and you illmatic stillmatic? Whatelse? It is written? It was

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written? I love it was written. Yeah, yeah, you know,
it's like like those are the thingswe gravitate to. To me personally,
that's what to so I mean,uh, this new stuff. I love
to see my homie still making music, and I'm definitely gonna listen to it.
Of course I appreciate him, butit's for us. So that's it.

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Do you do you? I kindof put them in two different categories,
like I don't always have the olderlike made you look NOAs and the
same as rare nos. You know, do you have to put those two
together at all? Because to me, it's almost like it's still NAS,
but it's like a different version,you know. Yeah, yeah, no,

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no, there it's a different kindof nos. Like one one is
the poet, deep introspective noses.That's who I'm Yeah, the real nos.
Yeah yeah, the real nos.And then there is gotta represent the
streets knocks, you know what Imean, gott to represent the rap game

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Nosa because because his lyrics are sodeep, he got a dumb it down
a little bit. Yeah yeah,he get dumb it down, and you
gotta speak on that that forefront.So yeah, this is like nots in
the DMS. Not so I say, like like if you hear nos when
he when he just came out,you would never think that would being like
that's the truth like in some someInstagram Shorty's d ms, you know,

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and it's kind of like he hejust like in a way like it is
math, I'm crazy scream knocking.You had this quote on the project where
you said niggas took my style,had to beat my kids. You don't
got name names, but talk aboutthat because I loved that bar. Yeah,
so I'm gonna talk about it.I'm gonna give it real because when

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I was coming up g. Miller, A lot of a lot of dudes
was like kind of emulate me.You know, I recognized it. I
let it slide. I didn't givea fuck because I knew I'm the original,
right So you know, I watchedeverything play out, and I watched

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how they all did it, andobviously they jumped hurtles. You know,
they did what they supposed to do. It's good for them. But then
it was like something was missing andI was and I took the step back
to watch that and be like,oh, yeah, now it's my turn
right now, Now the real isgonna come out. Yeah yeah, this
is this is this is the realguy who came with that dark downtown scene

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ship that started out with that ship. So that's definitely what I meant when
I said I got to beat mykids, you know what I mean,
because I got to teach these niggaslike, yeah you can, you can,
you can taste the drip, youcan even put it on, but
once it's in you, it's it'sit's just that's it. You have it
or you don't. You have itor you don't. And that's that's what
that meant when I beat them kids. I like that one a lot,

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because I do feel like there isthat from your perspective, at least,
seeing the people bite, you're kindof like, hey, I can't get
at everybody. I can't, youknow. And so that's why I'm happy
to put it in the music,because I do think it's a part of
that where there's a fan who doesn'tknow this person's biting you. You know,
they know, and this fan iseven like, oh my god,

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gmail us sounds so much like soand so, and you're like, well,
you got it wrong, twist itaround. Yeah, and So I
think that's like a lot of lovefor maturity to put that in the music
and not make it like you justchat about because yeah, as a person,
people are biting for us. It'sthe first time I've ever spoken about
it. Just catch you like,that's the first time I ever even said

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anything. I didn't care. Idon't. I don't care, like God
is gonna always such it straight.Yeah you know what I mean. So
I didn't care. I was justlike, Okay, you know, you
can with my hairstyle, you cantake my teeth, you can take my
walk, my style. I don'tgive a fuck, man, do you
do me? Yeah? Yeah,yeah, I like how you you were
nice about it, even even ifyou addressing it, you did it nice.

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I appreciate that smoke. That's oneof my favorite songs, one of
my favorite songs. I like thisbeat a lot. I like the part
you said found the edge off theedge or the edge off the edge off
edge. M hmm. But youhave this part in there that I thought
was so interesting, and the moreI did my research, I was like,
maybe this makes it. And nowthat you're here, you could clear
this up for me. You saythis part about red Bull in the Smoke

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song and red Bull keeping you up, and you said how smoking kind of
like puts you to sleep sometimes?Is that kind of part of why on
Red Bulls together? Because I'm like, in a song about smoking, there's
all these Red Bull references and Ithought that was interesting. I'm going shot
at your dreams right now, thoughtI thought I had to care c Well,

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this was really the whole entire songwas an experience I had. Okay,
I'm gonna get into it. Soit was one of my trips to
Los Angeles. We had like Airbnband Joshua Desert. We landed in.
We landed in La at like twelveam. I think it was like twelve

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and one am, and it wasmy boy Jake. Shout out Jake.
He was driving, and we webasically like this is the first time I
was driving out there. You know, we read to the car and all
that we drive. So if weknow anything about Joshua Desert, you know
it's four hours away from Los Angeles, not close, not close at all.
And this is like twelve am.And when you get out there,

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it's dark as fuck. There's nostreet, like it's a desert. Yeah,
like y'all doing that right off theplane, right off the plane.
That's it was the craziest moment.But that was that was the first part
of that trip. But I rememberwhen we was driving, you know,
we we had to keep each otherawake the entire time because we was like
listen, we got there like fouram, so we had to keep each

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other wake the whole time. SoI remember we bought like fucking twelve red
bulls checked that ship back to back. I was like, we getting there,
We getting there. So we werescooting there and it was like it
was a moment, man. Andthen when we got there, like fuck,
I remember, I'd never seen aCactus a day in my life.
It was like, the fuck amI? It was amazing, bro,

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And so that entire song, andthere was more to the experience in the
song as well, but that part, that's what that man Red Bull keep
Me Alive, you know, forour drive. You know. So,
so how does how does that experienceon that song compared to the actual song
Joshua Desert, Like, is thereany kind of correlation to that from the

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same time that's talking, Yeah,for sure, for sure, they definitely
do correlate, really and truly,I just looked at a more of a
outer perspective and an introspective perspective,if you caught me there. So josh
Smoke is more of like the ideaof living the life, yeah, but

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Joshua Tree Joshua Desert was more aboutjust how it was feeling at the time
in that situation. Okay them,Yeah, I'm not gonna say that there
because I know you're a big meditator, I damn and you always with your
with your hurts music. Yes,sir, something I've been asking people because
I'm I keep saying I'm fairly new, but I guess it's been a few

(15:50):
years at this point. I can'talways say that, but I want to
know people's meditation like ritual, likeis you know, is there a certain
app you use, video you use? Because why listen is everyone meditates differently
and sometimes the person who thought youhow to meditate is kind of like you
emulate and then you got to findyour own voice, right, you know,
similar to music. So what's beenyour like meditation routine, so to

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speak? And if you feel coolsharing that, yeah, for sure.
So in the morning is the besttime for me to meditate. I've been
increasing it to about three times now, which is a lot more powerful.
My ritual in the morning is justif I'm waking up, I'm praying and
then I'm meditating. Meditate for typicallyfifteen to twenty minutes, sometimes a half

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an hour. I do listen tolike brain waves, I listen to hurts,
and sometimes I'll just sit there andbreathe and just put my hand on
my heart in my hand and mystomach and just feel myself breathing and my
heart beating, which is amazing,you know. So every morning, I
just that's my ritual. Either I'mbouncing between those ones depending on how I'm
feeling, and I usually end mynight with a meditation as well, which

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is big. Yeah, I thinkending the night two is a big part
of it. It's kind of likeyou book booking in your day. Yeah
yeah, you said you try anddo three. So where do you find
time for that third one? Isthat like that's when you get back at
the crib or just oh yeah,it's whatever I could be doing in the
middle of the day, if I'mfrom working, or if I'm at home,
or if I'm just anywhere, LikeI'm going to just make fifteen minutes

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just to sit down and just thinkabout what the fuck going on in my
mind. No, it's important,like I do. Someone who they would
meditate in the car and I waslike driving though not driving, but it's
a different level because I remember wewent to somewhere and I have to drop
something off somewhere and she said,okay, I won't, I won't come
with you. I'll meditate when youI'll be when you get back awesome.

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And I said, well yeah,And I said like that kind of like
you know, level of like selfawareness and even intentionality. I was like,
okay, this is like you tobe still sucking with it, right.
She was absolutely not she's a demon'swhich is absolutely animal. But seeing
that I was taking notes of like, okay, like this is like something

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I wouldn't even think to do,you know, so I thought that was
pretty pretty cool. Man. Ithink I try and get a lot of
my friends to like start meditating,even though it's hard at first, because
your mind is like is your worstenemy and your best friend, depending on
how you see it, depending onhow you control it, depending on how
you talk to it. Really andtruly, like my mind, I've learned

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to talk to my mind in away where I say a question the things
I'm thinking, like why the hellwould I be doubting myself? Why the
hell would I be talking bad aboutmyself? You know. It's like really
and truly, when you meditate,you realize like there's a voice that's either
supporting you or tearing you down.So you got to choose which when you're
gonna listen to and you're speing factorbecause I think the part about choosing is

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a part that I think people arekind of misunderstanding. I think a lot
of people it's like their mind iscontrol, you know, like in like
their self belief is that they can'tcontrol their emotions. They can't control their
thoughts what you can't, but whatyou choose to listen to more of will
become more predominant in your head.It's like a training. It's a training,

(19:15):
yeah, you know, like wedon't. It's it's a light training
of training your brain to have goodhabits and exactly exactly. There's someone I
was talking to a little while agoand they were telling me about something they
wanted to do. They wanted tolike get more creative, get that that
side of life more pop in.And they kept saying like, oh,
I don't know if I'll be ableto do this or this this one work.
And I said, where where'd youget that from? And they didn't

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know, And I said, sono one's ever told you that, But
you're gonna tell yourself that as ifthat's the truth. It's like you like,
like who's on your team? Youon your team? Like, bro,
you're supposed to be your number one, number one fair leader, Like
you got to be there for yourself, like when you when you realize it,
like what I realized my mind waslike I'm just gonna share it whatever.

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My mind was dark at one point, you know, and you realize
that you have an inner child inyou, that that that that just needs
to be needs to be rocked,needs to be cradle, needs to be
told. Like listen, what happenedto you is fine, you know,
and and and and and how youaccept that should be gracefully. But for

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every for everybody's different, it's usuallygonna be a rough process. You do
that right, But you're in achild needs love, bro. You know
that goes for men and women.You're in a child needs love. And
I think this is kind of howsociety has put us against ourselves in a
way where there's this whole notion ofyou're too old for that. You know,
it's like you are a grown child, You're still a kid. Still,

(20:49):
you're still a kid, Like ifyou you have abandonment issues, you
got anxiety issues, like all thosethings. Then if you sit down and
register, you realize, like WHOAwhen I was six or seven or a
my daddy used to my mom usedto wow, maybe that's what that's them.
And then you break it down yourealize like whoa yo, I had

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that exact conversation last week because mydad as a pastor, so growing up
a yeah, God bless and growingup like listening to music period that that
was secular was a problem, youknow that that was just what it is.
And think and thinking about how musicis my life now and my job

(21:33):
and my work in some of thedifferent areas. It's kind of like you
got to put those two together oflike that. It's not an accident that
that's the case. No, SoI think that's a big part of people
don't want to do the self reflection. But I've been encourage everyone every single
time because I think it helps.And I think that once you learn you
can tell yourself good things, it'sit's mind boggling, you know, and

(21:56):
and affirmations. Listen. I neverwas want to be like your alpha mat
like you're gonna tell you. Butthere's this thing they call mayror work.
You know about it. You lookyourself in the mirror and you talk to
yourself. But when you look yourselfin the mirror's different than saying it out
loud, because when you say itout loud, it's like you could be
saying it to anybody, yeah,But when you look yourself in the mirror,

(22:18):
you saying it to your subconscious mind. So really and truly, the
more you say this At first,you're not gonna believe yourself. Obviously,
you're not gonna tell yourself like yo, I'm king of the world, like
okay, sure buddy, we'll seeit. But right, but when you
start telling yourself like I love myself, you know, I trust myself like
things like that, you will startto love and trust yourself and it feels

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good. It feels great. Yeah. I didn't realize that people didn't realize
in themselves and their lack of confidence, you know. And it's like sometimes
you might be blind to yourself.Like think about a guy who he sees
a certain woman and says, nah, not for me, Like, oh
no, see yo, I wasstory about that. Listen, man,
I just the other day, Ithink I did that to myself. I

(23:03):
saw Shorty I was like, man, she bad as fuck, And now
my mind was like, nah,she's not going. And then the other
part of my mind was like,boy boy, if you don't get your
ass over there and say what up? And it was like boom, you
know, and it's like that's howit goes, you know. And it
worked out for me, but that'show it goes. You gotta be you
got to question that thought, likewhere's this coming from? Who told me

(23:26):
this? That's the power because everyonegets a thought. I think I'm happy
you say that story. Everyone getsa thought exactly. We all human.
No one is immune to nobody's immuneto negative. When you get the thought,
it's how you deal with it.Does that thought become a law?
Does that thought become the truth?And I think that's the big part is
like, honestly, all you becomeis how you view yourself exactly. You

(23:47):
know. I have this huge momenta couple of months ago where I was
like, I want so much betterfor everyone in my life. I'm not
kind of person like someone's like,why this got a job that pays seventy
K. I'm like, seventy K. You're worth more than that. That's
not enough for you. You're ahundred. Like going back to that,
that's that's how I am. That'show I am too, And I realized,
like I don't need to always bethat because if they don't believe it,
then they're right. If I tellyou you can do this and you

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and you don't think you can,you're the one who's correct. So that's
one thing is like you got tobelieve exactly whatever the mind can conceive and
believe, the mind can achieve.Who needs to say with this is it
right here? Like I'm telling youman, And you know I have to
figure that out too. It takesa time. I have to figure that
out too, you know, becausewhen you when you're trying to motivate people
to do better, sometimes it feelslike an attack. Yes, right when

(24:33):
you really and truly, but it'sjust that your mind has crossed the threshold
of yourself and realized like, wow, there's there's doubt in me, and
I could do so much better.And then you look at someone else like
you could do it too, andthey go like, well, I'm good
where I'm at, and you're like, okay, sure, let me just
keep moving on. I was like, all right, we're yes. You

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realize yourself when you're like that's it, you just think for a second,
you know, you think you gottathink, like, okay, maybe I'm
pushing this person not ready yet.I can kind of hear that in this
album and everyone else's I think it'sgonna notice it kind of right away after
I first listen of like that inyourself, I'll see there's the messages.

(25:15):
But I think, like I soundlike anthem, which anthem feels like a
hype song for yourself. Yeah,it is, and that's exactly what it
is, perfect And it's like youcan kind of feel that in your in
your music as well, Like thoseare a moment where you kind of felt
the transition when what you were goingthrough personally crept into the music or was
it right? Like did you noticedid you notice it as it was happening

(25:38):
that? Like that song in particularwas just basically like I had to remind
myself who the fuck I was,you know, and it was like just
an anthem just to boost me upto start this album, which is crazy.
You know. That's why I callit anthem because you know, it's
like I had to remind myself,like gee on the logo Chocolate Sky Coco
sing like Casey and Jojo, youknow what I mean? Like Okay,

(26:00):
you know I was like, listen, this is who you are, you
know. So that's that's that's howthat came about. But what about this
in general, like, you know, the growth you had as a person,
did you feel it in a differentway in your music, like,
because I think there is something tothat of kind of getting a higher level
of peace and being on a highervibration, on a more consistent basis,
that everything feels different. So didyou feel that different in the way you

(26:23):
were working? For sure? Whenwhen when I elevated certain concepts and ideas
didn't gravitate with me anymore, youknow, talking about drugs and stuff like,
it changed. I started to lookinto a more wide spectrum of being,
like what are my people going through? Like what are the people I
know going through? And it wasit was definitely that moment where I realized,

(26:47):
like, wow, what I'm sayingcan influence people in a lot of
different ways. So really and truly, yeah, when I got to a
higher vibration, my music became thepoint of my speech and what I was
saying. So I realized, like, well, I can't say to myself
and to others that you know,I want to shoot you. You know,

(27:10):
I got I got a words gotpower, Well words power and words
power to myself too. So whatyou do to someone else, you do
to yourself. So you know,I realized like, okay, well just
talk about what you what's happening rightnow in front of you, about how
you feel inside. So it definitelydid shift when I started vibrating higher.

(27:30):
This is the song that I thinkof the most of this project. It's
not my favorite song, but thisis like maybe the song I would show
people and this Panther, which Ithought was a great idea for that to
be a single. There's that breakin the middle at the end of the
verse, which I thought is like, it's almost like a lead up to
you, but to go back in, you know, you're like, Okay,
he's about to go back in again. And then that skit at the

(27:52):
end. I want to talk aboutthat whole thing, but this is my
part, favorite part of it.At the end of it, it's if
you're tacking one black man, you'reattacking all black men, and it's kind
of like an idealistic world that we'rehoping to achieve. Talk about why you
put that in there at the end. Well, the song in itself,
Panther is about It's like it's like, it's like my answers is being angry

(28:18):
at this moment, and when Ipush to speak, I remove the filters
and I said, listen, I'mjust gonna say whatever I want to say.
And I understand that we, asyou know, black people lacked that

(28:40):
community to come together and to learnthat all we have is really together to
build things that we desire to changein our community. So that part of
the end there. I've always lovedMalcolm X because his approach was always like,
listen, we gotta we gotta bankbank, you know, we gotta

(29:03):
do it like this. You know, we like no shot to Martin Luther
King, of course, but butMalcolm X was always like that about that
action, you know what I'm saying. So when I put that at the
end there, I wanted people toto feel the connection to the music as
as a black person or as Africanor whoever you choose to define yourself as.

(29:27):
I wanted you to feel that connectionof us saying listen, this,
this song is about us. Yeah, and and yeah, you know I
need you to connect with this.Get down with this. I think it's
hard not to. I feel likewhat you put on the song to start
it out, and then at theend it I'm like, listen, if
y'all somehow didn't get that, I'mgonna smell it out for you. And

(29:51):
I think that's important because I hadto talk last week with a bunch of
other journalists. We were at theBob Marley premiere. Okay, the press
screening, and we get a longtalk about blackness and how we kind of
need to work as a collective insteadof working as singular people. And there's
a part in it where you're like, you know, black people will feel
so connected to each other that thiswill be the outcome. And I want

(30:15):
to no, no, no,what do you feel like from your experiences?
You feel like disconnect is because Isee in times, whether it's at
a label or in a building oranywhere where, to me, if it's
like he's someone else black, I'mlike, you know what up? Like
it happens, and I do itall the time, and I make sure
to do it in my mind thatwhen I see someone who's black and make

(30:36):
them know, it's not me grillingyou, it's not me sizing you up,
looking saying what's up? Man?Like is this? And then and
then yo, other people, otherother cultures look at that, and they
go, y'all know each other.No, we don't know each other.
We know each other though, yeahyeah we know yeah, so yeah.

(30:57):
The way this has to happen iswe got to have love for each other
always, you know, we gottaThat's got to be the main focal point
behind the things that we do andto support one another. Obviously, if
you're doing some funck shit, weshouldn't support that, right, It's just
because it's not it's not the bettermentof our people. Yes, but I

(31:21):
think what needs to happen is thecollaboration between just black communities and the collaboration
between us. And I'm not talkingno alternative mode is nothing, just like
pure intentions to see us elevate.It should be easy, it should it
should be, Yeah, it shouldbe, should be I think about this
all the time. My example isalways Tyler Perry. I know everyone has,

(31:47):
but Cali Perry never once catered towhite people. You know that his
senses, he'd been in the game. He said, I'm rocking with y'all,
and there's nothing wrong with that.And no, but the success he's
had, how you know, richsuccessful he's gotten doing that. And I
think there is almost this notion asblack people that we have to somehow,

(32:07):
at some point cater to white people, you know, like, yeah,
we get at some point, youknow what I mean? Yeah, And
so I think that you can justbe a black person who white people like,
and so be yourself, or youcan be a black person who cares
for black people and be successful likeTyler Perry is. So I think that
is where the biggest divide comes whenI look at it is there are some
of us who was like, Yo, I'm rocking with y'all, like I'm

(32:28):
catering to us, and some ofthem are like, I don't want to
be too aligned with y'all because Iwant the whites to like me. Yeah
yeah, and yeah, you're gonnapay for that because it's tell you.
Let me tell you something. Mangods like like Dick Gregory and Paul Mooney.
I love those guys. They alwaysrealize that their home, their foundation,

(32:49):
was their people, yep. Andeven if they wasn't selling in a
mainstream, they just went back home. And when they went back home,
it was always like we was talkingto each other and we enjoyed each other
and we were selling our shows.They're like, how are you selling out
shows? Because my people support me, right, And that's really what it's
about, you know, at theend of the day, is about us
really supporting each other like this,you know, to where it's like we

(33:10):
have our own market and you knowwhat I'm saying, and I think too,
if you look at history, someof the most successful, at least
things in entertainment media wise have beenblack people. You know, whether it's
a full black cast like the Cosby'sor Fresh Prince or you know, someone
like some like Michael Jackson or Princeor Teddy Pendergrass before them. And so

(33:30):
it's like, again, I don'tthink we have to move with that mentality
off. We got to widify itto get popping. And I think if
as black people, if we allmove over that energy, it's like,
listen, let's you know, multiplyour blackness together. Yeah. Yeah,
because because we we know what's cool, we like what's cool, we like
what we like, we do whatwe do, and then we adjust it

(33:51):
when we get there and it's likeus over here, we're like, listen,
why are you doing that? Justbe like this because we know each
other. So it's like if wejust start channeling to us, only then
we're gonna start seeing this thing wherepeople are gonna start looking over like what
they're doing over there? Wow?Man, that's what was happening with hip
hop right. It was like thepants saging? What are they pants sagon?

(34:14):
Oh? They got changed what theychanged, and it was like at
first it was like eh, andthen it was like their kids was like
wow, literally yeah exactly. Sothey kids like, okay, well,
well now they have to turn forcedto look at us. And that's what
Dick, greg Green and Paul Mooneytalked about. It was like, uh,
they didn't even notice us at thattime, and it was as simple

(34:37):
as just noticing us. Just seeingus is what changed things. It was
like, you know, he waslike, oh, yeah, we laughing.
You got that guy up there laughingwith the mask on, and you
got the black lists, you know, the black face and the lists,
and he danced, he smiling itand he's there dancing and I got you.
I got you because first he waslike, now you laughing at me?

(34:59):
But I you attention. Yeah,And that's where it started from.
That's what they that's what they startedtalking about. That it's about as simple
as just being like, well,what are they doing? And we can
get more that if we learn howto connect and just channel to our people.
I think there's a lot of Iknow those two guys especially are like
people who influence this project and linkto the project. That was one of

(35:21):
my things I was thinking about.I'm like, will everyone get it?
You know, I think you havesome bangers on here. And that's one
thing I always I'm like, somepeople they don't hear when it's a banger,
they don't hear the message at all, you know. Nope, And
Smoke is one of my favorites forthat reason. Where it's like smoke is
like as a very good in betweenof like, okay, it's kind of

(35:43):
the melodic way you're rapping is almosteasier to understand in a sense. But
that's one thing I've always thought about, is like the message he has on
here is like some people are guessing, be like drinking and smoke into the
bangers And then I'm okay with that. That's why I made those other song
so you could you could do that, right. But that's the thing,

(36:04):
you know, for those who arelistening, you know, and get my
message, they'll listen to it andbe like yo. And those who know
me too and be like yo,you snapped on that. Yeah, and
even even the hip hop legends andpeople who really appreciate the lyricism. That's
what That's what I did there,was to speak something deeper because as an
artist it's very easy to sound likeeverybody else. Yes, yes, and

(36:29):
it's very easy to push the samenarrative, but it's the way it has
to be done at the same timeto get into the game. But what
I tried, what I understood,was like, Okay, if I could
put my ideals and my morals andideas underneath that of pushing it forth,
it's like a trojan horse, youknow. I was like, Okay,

(36:50):
that's what I was going to do. So and I think hip hop does
the best job that I actually haveany genre. Because we said this earlier,
we want to say it again.Words are power, Words have power,
and so I always think, youknow, when I think my friends,
I'm like, it's killing a I'mlike, I'm like, who do
you listen to? You know,like, yeah, there can be a
certain sound, but what is arapper's message? You know, I was

(37:13):
thinking of someone who's a J.Cole fan. I'm like, if you're
a J. Cole fan, inherentlyyou're going to maybe be more positive as
a person, because whether you're likethat or not, you're just hearing him
repeat positive things, you know,over and over again. And so I
think that about your music is likehelp me not get the message, but
they might, you know, runback panther six times because it bangs,

(37:34):
and it's like then they start repeatingthe words and they start speaking it.
So I think I live in it, and I think that's huge. I
want to take it a little bitleft here, and I'm interested to see
where you go with this, becauseyou are you are a vegan. So
when vegans answer this question, Ialways have an eyebrow raised. When people
get one hundred million dollars, theyusually buy an exotic animal. Now I
don't make the rules, but that'sjust okay, well hold on, let

(37:57):
me correct you real quick before youfinish this. I'm not like I'm it
teal okay, okay, rasta manit thing like that vegan thing came from
whatever mainstream. I'm happy you clearit up. And like I'm not saying
I'm not saying I don't support animalsbeing safe and all that. But however,

(38:17):
from we know, we know,you know, we're from Yad and
we know like certain have to cutyou know, so you know you actually
have got to see the May moviethen, because you know it's that's like
they didn't put in the trailer.But a lot of that's in there,
Like that's how I was like,it's a lot of that, like like
if you like, if you're noteven if you're not even if you're not

(38:38):
Jamaican, you can still be black. And that's not as this goes,
it's a lot of Rasterianism for sure, like Rastafarianism, Like my grandpa's a
Rosta, so my uncle's Rosta too. But in the movie they actually like
if they keep a g really likeyeah, yeah, I love that.
Yeah. So it's like it's likefor us, it's like we're watching it
like okay, like we are theya part of it? Mary's are a

(38:59):
part of it? Yeah, hiswife rite him into it. Love it.
Yeah, And probably the most saidword is is Jafari. So yeah,
I was when I watched it,I was like, this is definitely
for Jamaican's Like if you're not likeyou, you may not get it.
Yeah, if you didn't grow upwith your mom yelling at you, you
don't know what you didn't If youdidn't catch the bottom of a slipper,
you don't know what's going on.When people get a hundred million dollars,

(39:21):
they you should get an exotic animalMichael Jackson with his monkey, Justin Bieber
with his monkey, Mike Tyson withhis tiger. So when you get to
that hundred million dollar level, what'san animal you're going to bring into your
life? What kind of animal?Like? Uh, ship, this is

(39:44):
this is a tough one. Yougot a hundred million dollars, so you
don't got a hundred million dollars.I can get any animal I want.
Yeah, I'm very tries to seewhere you take this because the possibilities are
endless. A panther, Oh that'scold. A panther, just just one,
just one black panther. Okay,okay, cold on the property for

(40:07):
sure, that's called on the property. For I love cats too, So
my cats are calm. Cats arefucking lit. Cats are calm. Yeah.
Dogs, I love dogs too,love cats and dogs. No,
I love dogs, but like Ilove dogs, but I'm more dog person
than a cat person. But catsare so chill. Like I like cats
because they they like a dog isa dog will accept you, you know,
like a cat will not accept people. Please there no dogs are people

(40:31):
please? It dogs side of thisship. I'm like, yeah, great,
go beat that guy that just cameto the door. You met an
hour ago and lay on them,but the cat will not laying on your
can't be like is this nigga?I do not know you Have you seen
those dogs that run the tinge withthe I mean the cats are the kind
of boy the dogs, Oh yeah, yeah, those are the best.
Like cats is more like my personality. It's a big, big dog and

(40:52):
the cat is bullying it. Isaw a video of the dogs go down
the stairs and the cats at thebottom on the stairs. Every time they're
trying to try and step to thecat just goes like the dog is probably
four times the sides of the catcould kill them, but that suncks.
You know, we could kill them. But yeah, so I rock a
catch for that reason. I likethat you have panther kind of you know,
you got a little fit there.Yeah yeah on a punisher you calling

(41:16):
yourself the punisher and like the deliverof justice. Yes, I like that
one a lot. That might haveto be your next AKA when the next
project comes out you come back.I have to add this to your a
kas as the Punisher talk about thatsong because I like that one a lot
too. Yeah, that was likethat song where my ancestors channeled me to

(41:37):
just to speak that injustice that's beendone, and I feel like the only
one who's really making things right isGod, you know, because people things,
things happen in life that are unfair, you know, fucked up,
and I mean that is still happeningtoday and things are obviously still happening like

(41:59):
that. But at the same time, that song was like, Okay,
listen, they hands is dirty,blood is hanging on the tree, Emmett
till we see this. Well,you gotta yo, you get on there,
just tell them hey, you know, like, oh yeah, you
did that, you did it.It's not to blame anybody, but it's

(42:19):
to understand that in our genes thereis still that pain, there is still
that suffering. It has to go, you know, it has to be
let go. So when I didpunish her, I was like, listen,
whatever you gotta say, whatever you'vebeen studying, whatever's been channeling to
me, I'm just gonna tell theraw, uncut truth. So I called

(42:40):
myself to punish her. You know, if you know the movie to Punish
It, I love that movie becausesometimes justice just is not fair and you
gotta take madis into your own hands. So that's literally, Like, that's
literally what I was trying to dowith that song. Just take Madis into
my own hands and be like,listen, y'all not talking about that.

(43:00):
You forgot about this. Hey,y'all forgot about this. So that's mainly
what I did with Punish It.How I would describe it is it's like
a trauma dump that comes with theass whipping. Yeah, and that's what
the punishre is. It's a traumadump that comes with the ass whiffing.
It's like, you're gonna hear aboutall this and I'm a bitch ass,
but after this, I'm good.Yeah, so I'm like that was that's

(43:22):
the tone for like that. Yeah, that's a good one. Now,
they say the top five people inyour life helped make you who you are.
Now, your top five can betwo people or it can be ten
people. But who are the peoplein your life who help you be yourself?
My mother, my father one respect, my little sister, my entire

(43:44):
family, all my sisters of course, my brother shout out my brothers and
oh I was just kind of groundnow. Yeah, I mean I got
people that did do those things forme, but like you know, I

(44:07):
learned from them. And you know, we moved on in life. Yeah,
but mainly always is always going tomove back to my family, my
mother and my father, my sisteris, my brother's. Like family always
realigns you back into the keeps yougrounded. It keeps you grounded. But
it's like you could you could bechanging your frequency when you leave your house

(44:30):
and you go here and do thatfor years and two and then you come
back and right back into that channelof energy that will remind you who you
are, you know what. Ifelt like that was for me when I
went to church as an adult.Once I moved out from my parents' house,
I went to church as an adult. It was like the reset and
I said, oh, I kindof got when you're younger, you're like,

(44:51):
do I gotta be here? Yeah, that's boring. And then it
became the reset and it's like Ifelt refreshed goal into the Monday of like
okay for sure, And it's likeyour family can have that effect on you
where it's like okay, m hmm, that's kind of you know. So
now I love to hear people's topfive because you can kind of tell a
lot about a person about who theirfive is or if they have a five.

(45:14):
Yep, I think that's important too. Is that that is important?
If someone isn't fit to be inyour five and they're on a low vibration,
you might just had to distance yourself. You have to. You have
to. You have to because becausewhen you when you, like I said,
your family will realign you. Andit's not to say like your family
doesn't vibrate high and nothing like that, but when you vibrate high, you

(45:35):
gotta also be grounded, right,which is very important because you can go
anywhere, yes, anywhere, evenplaces you don't want to be, and
be around people you don't want tobe around, you know, because not
every high vibration is a good vibration, that's correct, right, So when
you got your family, you staygrounded in that that morals, understanding,

(45:55):
truth and stuff like that. Whileyou're vibrating high, which is important.
Now you feel centered first, feelcentered. Yeah. Yeah, this this
might be the record for the mosthigh vibration references in a podcast. But
I'm here for it. I'm herefor yes, vibray high people, I'm
all the way here for it.Okay, So last, but not at

(46:16):
least before we get out of here, where are you at with this ice
cream? I feel like you've beenyou've been going ham Yeah, we ain't
gonna finish at the end of thisstuff. Show the camera. Let's see
how how far we've got in.Okay, a little soupy, it's mad
soupy. Yeah, I'm gonna chocolatesoup with an oreo in it. Oh
my goodness, it's a real oreothough. See I'm a sweet I'm a

(46:38):
sweeter Mans, but this is reallysweet. That's the clip. I'm a
sweeter Mass but this is really sweet. Man. We appreciate EVAs being our
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(47:00):
get it Together, Get it Togetherman, you need to know. I
mean, being an ice cream isgood. It's not just like just because
it's vegan. It's actually good icecream. That's it. The ice cream
you assume it's not going to beas good. Now it's just as good
as ice cream. Yeah. LikeI buy people though, who are either
lactose or just don't eat that kindof thing, and they're like, I
just want to do it. Idon't want to have the vegan because they're

(47:22):
because they're scared. And I said, you know the way you put your
tell me through all that, youdidn't need to need to You just gotta
vegan ice cream and you get thesame joy. Yeah, the old people
who are into self harm, Ifeel fear. Do what you gotta do.
I'm just for everyone to hear thisproject, because it's going to be
out a little bit before people hearthis. So if there's one song you

(47:43):
want people to listen to, whatwould that What would that song be?
If they're going to say, Okay, I don't got time for a full
project, I just want to seewhat the vibe is like. What song
are you sending them to? That'shard to say because the vibe changes.
I have more than one. DefinitelyAfrican Cubism. Yeah, that's the one

(48:05):
I'm going to send you. SmokeI'm going to send you and and it's
a good banger and Chinatown. Thoseare the three I'm going to send you.
Oh my god, we didn't talkabout a little b We didn't talk
my man. We got to talkingabout high vibrations, cook swag. I
was in Where was I was in? Victoria? A couple of weeks ago

(48:29):
and Pretty Boys Bag came on inthe club, Pretty Boy Swag and I
was cooking. Everyone's looking at melike I was nuts, and I'm just
you know how to cook, certifiedchift, certified chef. Talk about getting

(48:49):
him on the track. That's abig time, Like I know that there's
a's for me. For certain people, that's like cuge. Some people it's
like who the hell is that?But listen, bo Be followed me on
Twitter at one time, so Iknow I remember those days, bay Area
legend. Yeah, I talked aboutgetting him on the track and how big
that is, because I think that'shuge. Yeah, it was big for
me because like like I said,most of my friends knew me, like

(49:10):
they was like listen, you putthem onto Little Being of course, like
Thracks. That was a pretty likepretty bitch like all that, like Oneton
Soup. But I was I wasinto him before all that, like you're
early, early early, So peoplewere like what the fuck, Like I'm

(49:30):
God. That was the first trackhe had dropped. He's not God,
but it's always called I'm God.It was the beat by Claims Casino,
and I loved it. That wasthe first I watched the video and I
was like, who is this becauseyeah, so he's the goat man,
he the goat, and he startedthe internet culture originator. He reached the
originator of it. So when Igot him on the track, shout out,

(49:54):
Eva shot him, We got uslinked us up together. Yeah,
she was asking me like who youfucking? I was like this guy,
so yeah, you know, Ijust I couldn't believe it was happening because
because anyone who knows me knows that, you know, like what the fuck
this nigga? Like how do youget you got a little b on there?
Like that showed my boy the otherday from like a long time ago.

(50:15):
He goes, Yo, that's crazy. I know, you manifested that
ship. I was like, yeah, a little bee like I still say
swags back like kye like ship likeoh like kye, like someone's dripping.
I'm like swags back like kaye.That is so funny. Yeah, so

(50:37):
that was huge, Like and thenyou know, I got his number,
you know, tell me link himup here and there. So he's cool.
Man, Honestly, that's that's bigtime, like big time, yeah,
like big I don't know, likeplease hop on a little Bee like,
yeah, it's it's too late now, but you gotta go back.
You're not gonna get it though,because if you try to go back,

(50:59):
you're gonna be like that. Soyou're gonna see him and be like,
what is this? This is stupid? Yeah, but when it was starting,
Oh my god, I remember WorldStar. Yes, rapper calls himself
a pretty bitch. That was ahuge thing. You're taking me back right
now, Like I'm very like,first of all, World Star. I
used to be on World Star everyday, school for hours, like I

(51:20):
didn't have homework. Then Little beon top of it, like we we
used to go to like jams andthe jams are a thing, and hope
that they could get one Little Beesong play so we could cook like one
just one school, Dad, justgive us something so we can just hop
about my coup. Then I droppedmy roof. You know what's up man?

(51:43):
That's lit. I can't believe weas didn't get I saw the tractor
we got and happy way we talkingabout Little Bee China Town. Let's go
go check that out. People,Little Bee Future, and I think he
chose to chows honestly the right threeso people got the right from it,
because those are the three that Iwould choose to cube Bism I think is
like speaks for yourself, you know. And then those two is like afterc

(52:07):
Cubism is a big one. Yeah. That that that was one of the
ones where I was like, Yo, if this is this is the kind
of album that I think is goingto be like someone's entry into other ship.
That's what That's what I really feellike. I feel like someone might
come to your music for something else, you know, and here's something I
can cueb bisinm and be like,okay to treat me like that. Yeah,
he's dope, he can He couldrap. That's that's what that song

(52:29):
was for, Like I could rap, Like yeah, the other tracks is
great, but I could rap.I think the other ones you do show
that you can rap. But Ithink sometimes the casual listener can always tell
yeah. I think the musician couldtell of like Okay, I know it's
a it's a party song, buthe's really yeah, yeah, yeah I
can. Cubism is like everyone's gonnabe able to tell yeah, they can
tell. And and and that track, yeah, I love that. The

(52:52):
first verse is probably my favorite versei've written. Wow yeah yeah, because
if like I could sit down hereand explain every part of that first and
you would you maybe you heard it, maybe you understood it, maybe not,
But how I read it, andhow how I wrote it, and
how I understood it, I said, Wow, I love this. Yeah
that was that was a big one. That's a big one. That's the

(53:13):
easy one. Yeah. I'm veryI'm very interested to see what the rest
of the response is when this projectcomes out. I'm very excited for February
twenty third. Let's go bevery twentythird. Mister Turner, Ye, please
go stream that. Yes, listen, I'm a fan of the album.
So if my word means anything toyou, please go stream that. Thank
you. Last, but not least, you dropped a bunch of gems today.

(53:36):
But we have the segment on theradio show called Wednesday Wisdom looking for
a motivational quote or saying either youremind yourself of or the people around you.
So what's that quote for you thatis either always running through your head
or you're always telling the people aroundyou the quote that I'm always telling the
people around me, or either tellingyourself. All the gems you've been dropping,

(54:05):
I would have thought you had oneoff the cuff. Yeah, I
do. I have a lot.That's why I'm like, you can give
us more than one. It's likethe library. The first one is put
God first. That's obviously going tobe the one. The reason why that's
very important is because you know,God is a foundation of everything. The
second one is learn to love yourself. Learn to love yourself like that,

(54:30):
learn to love yourself, and threetimes to charm. The last one is
let go what no longer serves you. Yeah, yeah, let go it
no longer serves you. You cangrow out of a lot of things in
life, and you know you spendtime trying to grips it, trying to

(54:52):
grab onto it, but yeah,you gotta let go it no longer serves
you. Yeah, those are that'sa that's a big three. That's a
banger. That's a track, that'sa that's a big three. The last
one, I go no longer servesyou, I think is probably I don't
see the hardest one. I thinkself love is hard for a lot of
people as well. But I thinkletting going what serves you. It's hard,

(55:15):
but you don't know you're holding ontoit. It's part of love,
a huge part of huge part oflove is still that go. It no
longer serves you because you could reallybe okay with hurting yourself. You could
be okay with telling it yo,you could be okay with hurting yourself just
because you don't want to let go. But when you love yourself, you
realize, like, whoa this is. This is not bettering me. And

(55:39):
when you see that, you can'tunsee it. You know, you can't
unsee it, like the eyes open, you're like you cannot close it.
One of my friends said to mewas, we have to stop fighting for
our limits, and I thought ittime. I said, that is a
big fighting for limits, Yeah,And I said that is a huge one,
because it's like the limits you planyourself, you're you're actively putting them

(56:01):
on yourself. You know. Sometimesit's almost like like I watched this movie
the other day and the main charactersaid, I don't need to be better
any bad things to stop happening,right, And that's like that's a certain
perspective of course, the look atthings right, which I think a lot
of people will take. But it'slike I'm fighting for my limits. It's
like I'm dying to prove to myselfI'm not good enough, Like I'm not
gonna let no one tell me I'mgood enough. I'm not gonna let It's

(56:22):
like, you don't got to fightfor that, Okay, it's like fight
for something else. That's I thinkthat the last one is like letting letting
something go is like let that thinggo. You know, you don't have
to fight to keep that thing that'sholding you back. You do not have
to. And and the thing isthe reason why I started out with saying
put God first, because when youlet go, you make room for other

(56:45):
things to come in, right,But when you holding onto things, it's
like can you imagine if you canyou imagine if you would have created And
you're like, listen, I gotso much for you, Adrian, I
got this, I got this foryou, like I got this for you.
But you to drop that because it'stoo heavy to hold this this is
and you're holding onto it, andGod's just holding on to it, like,

(57:07):
man, if you just dropped that, Okay, He's gonna let you
get around to it. But thenthere's a certain point he says, Okay,
I got to force him to dropthat. Drop it. You drop
it. All of a sudden,the door opens and then start falling on
you. What the fuck I hadthis? I had that, and that's
what needs to happen. That entireprocess of those three quotes all intertwined.

(57:28):
Yeah, I like that we endedon self love. Chris, my producer,
actually said this to me during ashoot that he said, when I
think of self love, I thinkto you, but one of those best
compliments I could have ever got,Beful I said, I said, because
that no, for sure, becauseI think self love is almost the start
of all of this. It islike, once you love yourself, there's
certain things you just won't say,you just won't do, certain things you

(57:51):
won't do, you know. AndI think that once again, when you're
in a certain space, you don'teven notice it in yourself. And this
is exactly I always give. WhenI was a virgin, I was scared
to talk about sex at all.Anyone that's mentioned sex. I'm finding a
way. I gotta go to thewash room. I gotta go because I
don't even want no one to evenget to the point where they questioned me.

(58:12):
And now I'm nervous and you're notthere, and no one's even thinking
about me. No one's thinking thatthat, but because I'm so anxious,
I don't even I'm not even noticingthat no one cares because nobody cares.
Bro everybody's in their own world.And that's okay. We all got this
thing going on in our lives thatis so important to us, right,

(58:32):
so none of it's gonna matter.But that's the thing you yourself is telling
you that it's so important that itmust be important to everybody else, but
nobody, nobody cares. And it'slike, that's where I think people are
at in their mind, and theyconvince themselves that their right to be this
way. They're like, I'm worriedabout that. Okay, it makes sense

(58:52):
to be this worried. I'm rightin being this worried. And then once
you kind of break away from that, you're like, why did I think
everyone cared so much? Why didI think people cared? How I walked
the house looking how my head was. Yeah, you know, you want
to presume. But at the sametime, you gotta understand. If you
in a room exuding confidence and everybody'sin their own world, nobody gets a

(59:14):
ship out confident exactly. That's thething it's like, And once you realize
everyone else is thinking that it's somuch easier, cause that's what I think.
Much easier is I see it nowand I'm like, oh, this
person wishes they could do this oror they're not confident in this exactly.
So it's like that's what that sayingcomes from when they say pitch, when
you doing public speaking, picture everybodynaked, yeah, because and what that

(59:36):
is is deeper. It's like ifeveryone was naked, they'd be worried about
their body exactly. And it's easierto talk to everyone on your clothes and
everybody right, so you kind ofrealize, like, yo, if you
just get up on their say whateveryou need to say, and set yourself
Fred and everyone else can feel goodbeing naked too. That's where were wrapping
it up. Thank you again forthan us. I love I love that

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