November 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Kyle Wildfern pulls up to The Cool Table to talk about his new album, 'What a Life!'. We get into the stories behind the songs, the real-life moments that shaped his writing, and how he’s levelling up both personally and creatively. Kyle opens up about finding his voice and his musical beginnings.
He lets us in on what he has coming next and some of his favourite elements of his own artistry. He shares a couple of gems for Wednesday Wisdom and gives us a first in Cool Table history.
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He lets us in on what he has coming next and some of his favourite elements of his own artistry. He shares a couple of gems for Wednesday Wisdom and gives us a first in Cool Table history.
You can listen to the radio show every
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The old Man. So, hey everyone, this is Yo. It's
your boy, Funky, the coolest teen rapper online. What's up?
It's me Alfie. You're listening to the Cool Table with
a listening to You're listening to the Cool Table. You're
listening to the Cool Table. And I'm not sure if
you know this, but right now you're in the cut
with my man Adril Smile. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening,
(00:24):
and good night. My name is Adri Smiley aka Champion Scribe.
Now on the Cool Table, we challenge I guess to
finish a type of ice cream before the end of
the conversation. Joining us today, Here's a new album out
now called What a Life. He calls his music non
binary and his real name is not his real name.
Welcome to the show, how well for him? Sure shit, Hey, okay,
(00:54):
we got to keep that in. We got to keep
that in. That is so funny. That is so funny. Yeah,
I swear the first sement. Oh my gor sister. That's okay. Yeah,
that's that's the first one. Yeah, that's the last one. Well, yeah,
welcome to the show man. So Bunny, that wasn't even
(01:18):
on purpose, just came out like I was like I realized,
like how long it's this episode? Like how am I
good at finishes? I mean I could do it, so
you feel a confident. It's like yeah, I mean it's
kind of cool down. It's just like frozen. It's just
frozen frozen, so like works. Yeah. Yeah. All our ice
cream for season three is brought to us by Eva's
original Chimneys. Big shot out to EVAs hes ap hechos
(01:42):
apple Pie that this is actually so apple Pie. The
vegan one is the first flavor that I tried as well,
so we're on the same page there. I mean, I'm
lactose intolerance. That's why they're just the vegan one. Tell me, yeah,
some people who are lactos still choose a dairy one
because the trust issues. I appreciate you and my respect
that you didn't do that. I mean, I'm sadistic, but
I'm on roads, you know what I mean? Fair, fair, fair,
(02:04):
I dare it the crib. I'm like, I have a
toiler right here. But if I'm on roads, I'm in
North York. Yeah that's a little crazy. Yeah, you can't
have bubble guts at the time, Like, oh my goodness, Okay,
So I like your chances. I'll do what I can
to give you some time to actually I like your chances.
(02:26):
Let's start. Let's start with that you called your music
or your sound non binary. I thought that was hilarious
but actually pretty accurate. Talk about that, because I feel
like you have one of those sounds that you can't
put at least this album into a box and you
already kind of rap album and talk about that in
a bit. But I used to be a music director
and I always think about the albums I would get
where they would say it's a mix between Tom Petty
(02:48):
and Jah Rule, and You're just like, what does that
even mean? Like you know, but I feel like you
have one of those sounds that is, you know, a
ton of mixes. But I feel like calling a non
binary is safe for been trying to say who it's
a mix of. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's
because honestly, it be hard to pull a bunch of names.
(03:10):
But like, yeah, the number I thing was a joke,
but it's yeah, if you listen, you should listen to
my album album out What a Life? But yeah, it's
just very sonically everything, you know what I mean? I
grab from everything, So I listen to everything, you know
what I mean. So that's where it comes from. I'm
not trying to like go in the studio, so I
(03:30):
need it's just like my musical diet. So that's why
it comes out here. Yeah, and uh, the streets are
telling me that Kyle is a stage name. Is that correct? Yeah?
So so tell us about that because I always find
interested when someone has a real name as their stage name. Okay,
so yeah, my real name is Jamie Dixon. It sounds
(03:51):
so fake, like if people don't even believe me when
I tell them that. But Jamie Dixon's almost a stage name. Yeah, exactly.
So Kyle Wildfrin came from when I was a kids
get bullied for Jamie. He was the kids say, I
have a girl's name. Okay. So then one day I
came up from school. It's just like grade two and
I was like, Mom, I want to chang my name.
(04:13):
Can I be? Can I be Kyle? Whatever? And she's like, no,
your name is beauty. The footage it's French. It's because
it's about j j A. I am me the French, which, yeah,
I have a cool name. Yeah. Then Wildfrid is the
street my parents bought their first house in Canada, Alford Drive,
Rexty Okay. Soyle. So when I made like my Instagram
(04:35):
handled in high school, it was Kyle Wilfern Okay, and
I went into music. I was like college to be.
I feel like that's how it goes. Like Instagram prepared
all of us for seven stage name. Yeah, because my
last name is actually a Smiley. I sometimes people think
I'm joking, but it actually is Smiley. But when I
first got Facebook, they thought it was not a real name.
So imagine I'm using my real name and they're not
(04:56):
believing me. So I was like, what could I do instead?
So if anyone knows me from this long, I used
to be Adriel Black Smiley on Facebook. I got you.
I got you. And I remember when someone thought that
that my real name was Black Smiley and I'm like,
you know what, my last name is Smiley. That's not
that crazy like they could that's believable. Yeah, I remember
(05:20):
that the Facebook name crackdown, It'll be dimples and oh yeah,
three ESA's in the Wednesday. That's how I found out
about what Kalefa. This girl had Colifa in her name,
and I said, her name is not CLEEFA there's no way.
And then you know it came from there. You said
you got your start at Frosh Week at York. Yeah,
(05:40):
so let's talk about what you were doing before then,
because you you had the skills as a freestyler to
even kind of get a look like that or how
people think you shouldnt look like that. What were you
doing to even get to that level of freestyling before that?
I mean everyone that's what they're boys, you know. So
I never I never made music before that, but we
(06:01):
were just we would just rap, like my boy come
come over after school, watch like Champions League, then like
going to put a bunch of beats on just wrap
for like two hours like grab. So like I was
just I guess I was just hounding my skills and
ready for the frustrating moment. You didn't even know, like yeah,
(06:22):
when the frust leaders like yo, like you're sick, you
should do this challenge. I'm like, I don't got to.
I got a song, I don't rap, you'd have nothing,
I guess. Yeah. Then my boy started making beats like
around that time, and like he gave me his first
beat and I did it. It's somewhere it's somewhere out there.
I unprivated it. I got privated because I was like,
(06:43):
oh so so you you're already unprivate of it. So
it's it's how they found you can find it. Okay,
I saw that you were gonna do that, he said,
you Now you're saying it's actually out there, So okay,
we're gonna we're gonna find it. We're gonna find it.
Listen to it, now, what do you think about it?
It's not as bad as I cringe because like it's
my first thing, so like it's very wordy. It's very
(07:04):
like rimy, that type of thing. But like and I
was also like sick, I like flu or something, so
my voice is like fake. But it was just hilarious.
But I wanted the thing. I want it, and it
gave me a TV. That's cool. So I had to
like bust home with the TV all the way to Bramson.
But you want to go, I want it. I should
have kept it. Looky, I would love to hear what
(07:25):
that sounds like. Now. I feel like everyone's first like
songs and records is like a whole different person, you know.
It's like listening to early Playboy CARDI it sounds like currency. Yeah,
I mean yeah, my things myself was really rappy for
a long time to like branch. Yeah yeah. And then
you said you that Casey Mustards was kind of like
your entry into country a little bit. I mean, I
(07:46):
mean everyone's first country thing was like or something. You know,
like when you're young, you're really like categorize music like that.
When you're younger, you just it's all popping. Yeah, like
your your parents would play the radio or something saying
like everything's the same. But but like when you're in
high school, you say you don't listen to you listen
everything's of her country or screamer or metal. So then yeah,
(08:10):
but like I think when Casey won or she was
nominated or did she went wing like a new artist
she's nominated yea or something, and like that's when I
really like gave her a chance and I found like
Merry Go Round. Yeah yeah, I was like this is
written like perfectly. I'm like, what the heck I didn't
swear I'm time We got left listen second one because
(08:37):
we had Harrison on the show in season one and
he picked up Casey musk Graves and he was saying,
that's like one of the people he really wants to
work with. So Casey musk Graves, he's cool, table has
some love for you. She yeah. Then like but I was, yeah,
so I gave it a chance then and then I
never really like revisit until like, but I was open
(08:58):
to it then like I went back to it, like
when I songwriting stuff, then I really deep diving into
the country stuff. Like well, and that's why I think
my writing up better, just being open to stuff. Yeah,
I think that's the thing I think I see on
this album a lot is your songwriting that's like it's
not bound to hip hop. Yea. I think hip hop
the version of songwriting. If you only listen to hip hop,
that's all you know, and all the different kinds of
(09:20):
songwriting you're kind of like oblivious to exactly. It keeps
you in a box. I mean, but being a having
a bass as a hip hop writer, it helps because
you want to say like something slick or something or
different way. Yeah, different way of saying and like that
helps you in rooms and stuff. But the songwriting aspect
of like structure and like and what country music company
(09:44):
do is like set a scene because some country music
that you know, a car driving, you know, like where
they are, Like I have a country so called twenty
two and and it's like, yeah, it's all that. It's
like I set this like the woman, the drinking, like
it's all there. That really helped me, like really like
(10:06):
set the table for that. It's called furniture, And I
think the songmy terms called furniture and cut music because
like seventy six Chevy, what type of guitar, Like it's
all there, yeah, And I think like that's something that's
almost natural to them, but it's not natural in other genres.
And I think, like you said, strong structure, that that
was one of the first ones I made because I
(10:27):
had I had a whole notes I'm making notes about
just you know, seeing which you know, the kind of
artists that you are. But then the album itself and
song structure was the first thing I wrote because there's
a bunch of moments where I was like, Okay, he's
not bound by a certain yeah like sixteen hook yeah, yeah, yeah,
because I think that's where you really grow create creatively
(10:48):
because you hear all these songs that I'm sure you've
seen as well where it becomes a hook, but it
wasn't meant to be the hook, and you write this
part that you think is a punchy entry to your verse,
and no, no, that's the hook exactly. Just repeat and
run that back, you know. So I think I see
that a lot on here where you don't have those
kind of bounds. You talked about the first song you made.
(11:10):
You were trying to make Moon by Kanye Oh for
the album yea for the album, not not for the album.
Talk about that moment and like you trying to kind
of emulate that sound. The song is Nuclear Fallout some album.
That's the first song I made for the Badge or no,
I think Okay. I was house sitting for my boy
(11:32):
Jacob and he had a moke one. It's a crazy instrument,
and like I was like, bet, I'm gonna be here
making music while I'm house sitting. I'm gonna start my
album whatever. So I was making stuff. It wasn't I
was just getting used to the instrument. So I made
a few stuff before Nikole fell up. But like when
I watched Donda the First Dream, I was like, bro,
I need a song like Moon, like with Dark tollor
(11:53):
I need some of that. So so you can kind
of hear it because it starts out like Nuclear Falls
starts up like just synths and stuff. I was playing
the synth whatever. Then like it also it just evolves
to something like completely different. Yeah, I'm like I can
go like so maney places with this song. So yeah,
started with that one. Then I just started making a
(12:14):
bunch of other stuff. Yeah, evolved. That was two twenty one, Bro,
that's a while. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, there's a part
of a Nuclear fallowup where you're talking about being comfortable uncertainty.
Talk about that feeling. Is that like something you gained
more through the music or you feel like you always
had that? Man? I mean the album is about it's
(12:34):
really about existentialism and like the journey through life and
like the restle between fate and faith. So as a kid,
like I was like I would have these moments where
I was so struck by like when you die that's it.
Like I was like crippled by it as I couldn't
(12:54):
grasp I had to like sometimes sleep with my sisters
my mom like what do you It's just black. So
I was like there's a lot to handle. Yeah, Like
and growing up in like the church and stuff, I
just didn't really know how to grasp that thing. So
like this album was really for me. It really helped me,
like I never really did it on personal like making
album really like how me grasp with a lot of
these concepts while making it interesting. Yeah, like and like
(13:18):
accidentally and like so in that song, uncertainty in that
song is more more so speaking about because Newclear follows
like the end of a relationship with someone and like
it went nuclear and there's a fallout all that stuff.
So I was like uncertainty with this person, but I'm like,
(13:39):
I don't care as long as we can have like
one more go type of thing. So yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Listen, listen,
listen the songs all I heard it, I heard it,
I clean it up. So where do you feel? Like
(14:02):
you're out with that question now because the whole thing
you're saying about like life and it's over. Like I've
thought about that as all again growing up in the church.
It's like this is just it, Like what's you know?
This is all that comes to. So now that you've
done the album, it's out, Like where are you in
terms of those thoughts? I really think I'm just comfortable
and knowing. I tell myself, I'll get there when I
(14:25):
get there, Like right now, it's just right now, so
you can experience when you're when you're gone, you can't
experience anything that's gone. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
So it's like right now is the only thing that matters. Yeah,
So like I just have comfort in that, and whatever
happens after, it happens after. No, it helped me be
(14:46):
more present, yeah, literally, because it's like there's nothing I
could do. There's nothing, bro nothing, there's nothing. And too,
like there's a long time where I never saw anyone
close to me pass away, and then I saw like
a few people close to me pass away, and like
one from like my one of my great aunts who's like,
you know, was older, she was a full life like
(15:06):
friends in their twenties. Yeah, and it's kind of like
it probably was scary for them whenever they got to
the moment when they were like, Yo, this is it,
you know, but it's like, how are they going to
prepare for that? I'm gonna think about it for eighty years.
It's like, okay, but think about this this whole time.
So now I'm like, you know, it doesn't work like that.
Everything else in life you can prepare for you almost
(15:27):
in a way. But that's one thing that there's no
playbook like you know, so I had to said like
it made me be more present where I was like
listen now live bro. Now it was the only thing
that matters. Like literally, that's that's a nuclear followut is about.
It's just like it's like this world can end. I say,
a bunch in a bunch of cool are it's how
this working end? But I'm like, right now it's just
(15:48):
me and you, like we can get a thing. Yeah,
you have this quote about too many chefs in the
kitchen talking about way cool cool. I literally said a
quote like that last episode We're Shad, we were talking
about how you know, when you get fed food, it
didn't taste better if it's more coloks. You have one
chef the food, and it's just as good to talk
(16:10):
about the experience on learning that because that's something I
repeat in any situation of like more cooks doesn't make
the food better. Yeah, exactly, you need some things. Don't
have to be democracy, bro, for it to work. You know,
you need a leader. Sometimes you need to dictator. Sometimes
you need Donald Trump struck. Yeah, but yeah, like in
(16:34):
terms of way quote, it was our boys and we
were just sometimes hitched in process or execution, and the
number one thing was just putting out this album. It's
just a lot of moving pieces, but it just worked
better when like me and my boys Seagull just took
the reins and like did the merch, like get the
(16:56):
studio time, put out the thing whatever. Yeah. But I
mean sometimes you do need a bunch of chefs in
the kitchen. But that's just synergy and like you know,
I talk about that like when it comes to songwriting
and stuff, like I mean people hite on Drake about
him having like songwriters. He's become the face of it
(17:18):
for some reason. Yeah, but it's beautiful to collaborate and
like when people like discredit him, Oh man, I'm about here,
Glaze and you're no. It was like people discredit him.
But it's like I think of music is food, and
like how can you if the song is good? The
(17:39):
song is good, It's like if you get if if
the chef brings out a plate and you eat it
and it's good, and you're like you would help making
this in fact, you would never do that. You didn't.
You didn't make this by yourself. I mean, I mean
it comes down to like what's the word, Like if
someone lies about making the food by themselves is a problem,
(18:03):
that's different. But it's like, oh, my sous chef, this
is in the kitchen. They chopped pete and it's great.
It's great, you know, I mean, it's beautiful. Now You're
right about him being the face of it, because I
remember when I when I found out about Kanye as
a young fan, I was like, Jesus walks off, Yeah
you didn't write that. I know, he had to help
with rhyan Fest. Yeah, you know, but like find not
(18:25):
about a bunch of records consequence too, And I'm like,
you know what, like these records probably turned out better
because of it. Records and the song I think of
like historically is nothing compared to you Snae O'Connor. I
hadn't heard the Prince one until I heard the Snade
one first. Yeah, so I only know this one, and
(18:47):
the Prince one is still fired. Different different song, but
still fire. But to think that someone could do it better,
you know, it's like you wouldn't even I mean that's
like a lot of rock records. It's like black artists, Yeah,
they're like twenty years ten years ago, these white guys
came through and did it. But like, I mean that's
music man. Yeah. But I think it's like the kind
(19:09):
of education you get from that of like okay, you
learn a new record now or oh so so I
wrote this, Okay, I'm gonna tap in. Yeah. And also,
this is my thing is like when it comes to collaboration,
you want to make the best music. It really does
not matter how it's made. And that's the part that
I think is that's the last Internet thing. It's not
a real life laterally thing because think about you going
(19:31):
to a concert and you're like this cloud guy's all
right he he and then someone goes not but he
wrote all of it and you're like, ah, it's lass
Like yeah, but I mean it's a lot of ego.
It's a lot of ego music in that. I mean
a lot of it's just Twitter bro, Like, no, it's
not real because essentially, think about the biggest artists, all
heavy looked right for them, Like that's almost a stamp
(19:52):
of you being a big artist. The stamp of being
a big artist is that they go and get you
the best writer. No one is listening to Lady God
talking about what she had up writing this fake about
what she like doing that, like it's it's just a
it's a black thing, bro, Yeah, I mean, and like
I mean, some people are plagued by it, like sometimes
(20:16):
you need help making music, like oh my gosh, like
I can swear now jizz, but like look when the
guy took it. This guy took it, Like like I
love Target the creator, Like I said this before, but
I wish you'd make me like branch Ol. You don't
(20:36):
have to all be in your universe. That's a good point.
I never thought about that, but that's a good point.
I think I think I could be good. It could
be good, Like like Jake Jake Colts. I was a
big Jake coldfan and liked be sick if like that's
happened Whenjao did all this features and it was like, yes, yeah,
you're right, because I was. I asked K I said,
if you do plat with no features one more time,
(20:58):
because I'm a huge j Cole fan, I'm a hugely
cool fan. I said, if you do one more time,
I'm sorry, Like you might lose me. Yeah, come on,
I need to hear a verse of course, something about collaboration,
you know. So yeah, I feel I'm not one. Now
I also heard this and I could have confirmed. So
we're doing the Wikipedia check with you right now. Okay,
(21:19):
now you freestyled on family feud. Oh my god? Where
is this footage? I heard about this? CBC? Yes, yes, CVC.
I know where I'm in the build like I should.
I mean, it's on Instagram. I think they posted. Yeah,
they posted a little search tell me about it. I
was like, yo, because we're going to a family forever.
(21:40):
I'm like sick. But I'm like yo, because they vet
you for a minute, like they call you, their talks
with you, trying to get like stuff just to pull
for the show. And I'm like they love that it
made music, Like they're like, oh you wrap. Yeah. Like
I'm like, oh, they better not make me freestyle on TV. Bro.
(22:03):
It's like they better not made me shuck and jive. Bro.
You know they want dog. I get up there and
I can't pay. We're going like krom was bro sky
Sky Jerry Bro making me rap. It was good. I
did well, Thank goodness, goodness, thank John thank John bro
because if I don't think would they put it in
(22:25):
if I was bad? No? Probably not. Yeah, but I
did a look one tool. It was. It was it
was fun experience. Yeah. I was like, because when I
heard that you did that, I was like, you don't
give me the vibe that you wouldn't want to freestyle.
I never met you, but I'm just like, now I'm
just confused. You know nothing about the vibe. Before. I
wasn't like, yo, let me spin it one two man,
(22:47):
let me kick it, let me kick it, give me
a peat box man. I was like, oh or something like,
all right, I might have su I was like, I'm
telling you. I was like, who am I talking to
right now? I was like, wait, they would have cut
(23:08):
the TV so quick. They said, yeah, George Floyd died
for this. He might inspire someone. Go ahead, go ahead ahead.
So what's the percentage of people that complete this, Chris So,
would you say like half at least or more than half? Oh? Yeah? Real?
Here shout out to Ari because Ari coin the phrase
(23:32):
bring your best eater and o'shawn An XP run here
and O'shawan had XP do it for him. And I
was like, i don't know if you're calling XP your
best eater. But by the what Ari said, they had
him man eat it for him, that's you let him
(23:55):
eat it for Oh my goodness, I don't want to
mix up crazy top rope. Yeah that I like. I
like that song. It can't even right away because I
all use that phrase. So I was like, I'm insted
to see what theme he's going top rope? Yeah, how
to use it, like when someone's just doing too much
(24:15):
or you're coming at someone like to it's like you're
not the top rope. That's so talk about about that
record and kind of like what's in that? Yeah, that's
the intro to the album. The album, I mean the
song is about I mean I write it as I'm
dating a professional wrestler. That's why I wrote it, like
(24:36):
in her corner and supporting her and she's going to
be a star, Like that's why I wrote it. But
it's about a partner. That's what that was going for,
like like trials and triopulations and like I thought I'd
be very cute just like not just write as a
lovey dovey easy song. So I was like, I write
it this way, and yeah, it came out really cool.
(24:59):
Checked get out to my album What a Life, debut
album intro, Yeah, stream that, Yeah came really cool, and
like some of my favorite songs, I feel like it
has a little more of inspirational love. Yeah, like you're
building your partner up literally, and like it's like the
top of the album top rope and then jumping into
the album. So that's when just yeah, then each song
(25:23):
because like the album, the album is the story of
a man, so like it starts very optimistic, maybe I
got helps, you can be a star. And then like
the next song is feel Too, and that's about like
being like doubtful of love, and the next song is
nuclear Fallout, the breakup, the Lessons Learned, you know, so
(25:43):
like it just it kind of gets into like a
frustration place. Yeah, Like it starts out it's like are
we good, like you know, yeah, you good, And then
second was like are we good? Yeah, there's oh We're
not good, and the fourth is like, oh I should
have known because that's lesson learned. Then like then the
middle of the albums of the crash, Yeah, listen to it,
What a Life, Listen listen learn It feels like a
(26:07):
fan favorite. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it just goes,
it goes, and it just doesn't stop. I love that song. Yeah.
I love the energy and that it kind of feels
like a driving yeah song like that like that to
me gave like big single energy. Yeah, I mean, I
mean the powers that be they don't want me to
put that. What do you think about that though? Because
(26:28):
I feel like that song has an energy where it
fits the project still, where it's like, okay, if you
if you hear this, you kind of know what the
project is going to sound like still, but it's still
like such a I don't know, it feels like a
song that makes you want to run. Yeah, because yeah,
that's because when it starts it doesn't stop. The drums
are the whole time, and the guitars come in they
don't believe, and like it's just like very high energy. Yeah.
(26:49):
I love this song. It's high octane and it's just
like I could run to it, you can live to it,
drive really fast on the fur went to it? What
comes after m M the second half of that song.
There's a couple songs I hear that I'm like, these
could have been like their own, so you know what
I'm saying like a certain part of the record, Yeah,
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the sinse get like heavy talk about that record because
I feel like what you have on this album, which
is very very rare, is like the production is its
own story in a sense, like if you didn't have
no lyrics on this, I can see the production and go, Okay,
this is where we're going and we're moving. What comes
after is when I think of that fits that, so
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talk about that one. Yeah. Yeah, the spoken with production
is very intentional because the sonics, because I tell it
narratively for the lyrics, but the sonics dick take that
as well, because when it gets what comes after, it's
very like slows down right away from lessons learned. Yeah,
and then it's very introspection. But I don't know, I'm
(27:57):
drunk of that introspective and like, yeah, it starts just
me questioning about what comes after, you know, the whole
thing we're talking about earlier, but what's after death? And
like then when it gets to the end, it's like
it builds up, then the shrinks and it builds up again.
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Then it's like type of release and it's just like
accepting that, like you just don't know. And then it
leads into like crazy stuff after that. I didn't know
about the whole death thing when I heard that's like myself.
But now that you tell me that, I can kind
of see, and I think the second release now makes
more sense because it's like to go to go up,
(28:41):
come back, and then go up and out. Yeah, you know,
it's just like it's like, okay, well then the guitar solo,
the drums, it's like it leads into sinning the nude
and then like yeah, that's when it gets crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
What would you say is this is the soundtrack like
for this album terms of where people should listen to.
But man, that's a good question. At your ex's house X,
(29:08):
there are not not there not So you're in the
air excess house, but they're not there, not there. You
know what. That's an insane answer, but you might be right.
Like I'm deep in it, and I say, like, hell,
how anxious and energy. It's like like lesson learned is
when you're like running around these trying to put things
(29:29):
back more taken up. It's just like what am I
doing here? Like one hundred percent, I went to an
excess place to get my stuff and this would have
been the soundtrack for that. Yeah, this would have been
It's just an emotional rollercoaster them they're not. It's just
like as everything, Like yeah, no, this would have been
the purpose soundtrack. Like it's not somber, but it's still
(29:53):
not calm. Yeah, and like if they're there, you know,
it could be a good time and it's gonna be
a bad block spin. You gonna think about it, like
what did I do? Like, you know, it's all day,
you know what I mean? Are you pro block spin?
Is that what you're sugesting to the people. No, no, no,
that's not your final answer. I mean you got it,
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So you gotta do it at least. You gotta do
at least once in your life. You gotta do at
least ones. Okay that I can go sign because like then,
like you really you gotta learn, bro, you got to
jump in the fire sometimes. You got to do it,
get out of your system and then you could be
like I'll never do this again. Do it, and you
gotta do it least, especially because when you have you
have the worst block spin of all time. It's said
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you want to spath like you're just like I'm actually
good now I don't need to do this basically ever again.
But it doesn't work like that. I know I'm speaking
from a place it's like that does it does not
work like that. I have I spend many blocks. Let's
talk about this cue put the process your off duty
(31:01):
for now? Yeah? Fuck, let it up? There you go.
That's better in the jins, Ben the jest. A lot
of things are better than like this ice cream. Hey apple,
vegan spongers, stupid, They're gonna love that one. Let's talk
about this project you got coming out next, the rap
(31:22):
project that you've been working on. What can you tell
us about how long you've been working on it for?
What's it gonna sound like? I made it in like
a week and a half. Yeah, I'm still thinking I'm
gonna do another batch for it. But like I made
it when I got fired from Walmart. Okay, it's called
(31:47):
Stolen George. They can deduce, you can deduce, you know. So,
like I was in a little vibe and I just
made the most belligerent It's so dumb. It's so dumb,
because you know how this album is very thought. Yeah,
this is just the first thing I think. I said it,
and I say a lot of bad things, a lot
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of silly things. Have a song there called Cammage. I
have a song called so Gay. I have a song
called hall Coked where I say that hard are it's foolishness,
but it's just fun, like my friends really loving. I'm
excited to put it up. Yeah, do you have a
time you thinking to put this out? Or you're still
letting this marinello? Can you said you're gonna make another batch? Yeah,
I mean I'm gonna be finished it before the years
(32:30):
of but I'm gonna put it out spring next year,
like right, I feel like deluxe, so like I'm not
holding them for too long. Okay, okay, that's coming soon.
How many songs you're thinking I have on that. I
think it's gonna be eight, but like they're short, it's
gonna be like a twelve minute project. It's quick. It's
just dumb, bro, It's so dumb. And when did you
make this a game? You said? You said around the
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same time or before this, I'm not in the parking lot.
After being escorted up hit my boys like any beats.
I went home that week I have I was the
first time I was off work for like in so long.
Make this make the album crazy, it made some stupid
it's the stupidest music. Do we have a name for
this stolen George? Okay, Okay, that's why I'm like, you
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can deduce ye maa my ex my, I'm excited for
this rap project you have coming. I think especially you're
putting it out after What a Life. I think it
fits better than putting out before with A Life. Yeah,
it's no. He's like, we're gonna run this thing, roll
up when the Juno for yeah, speak it and then
(33:37):
when I think I'm gonna drop it right literally the
same day, literally, like we had a meeting last night
talking about the I'm like, when to roll us up,
dropped de Luxe fort for the Life on top of
the Year, got former songs, and then like when we
won the Juno, here's the dumb thing like archive everything
on my page. Everything. Yeah, it dropped so gay, like straight,
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straight up, what category would you even be in the Junos?
You're the same album of the Year straight. I think
we're alternative okay and new artists, Yeah, because like that's
what I think what life is just alternative because like
what else can you say? Yeah, I mean Spotify is
finally give me the rock playlist and stuff. Yo, we
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put up I think we put our top rope and
the person top rope, and they put us on like
Northern Bars on Spotify. Like I was like, oh yeah,
guy said yeah, oh my fuck, You're right, I see
what it is. I was like, fair, but yeah, I
was the face of the new rock playlist. Okay, Okay,
(34:46):
I like that, Yeah, because Northern Bars is not. Yeah,
like you have songs like that are for that for sure? Not?
You know. Yeah, I think I think we to see
where you're have with ice cream chill facts. I mean,
come on, let's see. Point to the camera, let's see. Okay.
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I'm like, I'm like, I got like thirty five percent. Okay, okay,
we're good. You got some time some time. I want
to ask you about the song that's not on the project,
because this is a song that my old nine means
coming onto this record and oh no Consume with jewels,
(35:27):
Oh no, talk about that one. I think I know
you're's talking about, yeah, consume. We want to know a
but oh, I mean, yeah, it's my little cute R
and B R and B record. You know I'm singing
on that. I think that's one of the first songs
I put up with no autitune, so I'm like, really
a single mind on it. But yeah, it's one of
(35:49):
my most popular songs, and it's in the window in there,
you know. I just want I was like, can I
make a Can I make a song that people don't
even know it's there? If you really deep? We're all
making more music like that though, because I like that record.
I feel like you sound like you fit on there,
(36:11):
Like I hadn't heard you do that sound before. So
I was kind of like, am I just not aware
of his music as I thought I was? Or like
has he changed his sound? I'm just new to it now,
So would you do more? And stuff like that. I
have an album coming out at the end of next
year called The Last Songs I Wrote, which is like
more than that band or ballads and things like that.
(36:31):
So like when I make music, I usually work on
a bunch of stuff at the same time. HM. So
it's like, Okay, this is for this, this is for this, Okay, yeah,
more songs like that coming soon for sure. Okay. I'm
happy to hear. I'm happy to Yeah. So when people
get a hundred million dollars, they add an exotic animal
into their life. I don't make the roles. This is
just how they do it, Okay. Justin Bieber with his monkey,
(36:54):
Mike Tyson with his tiger, Michael Jackson with his monkey.
So when you get a hundred million dollars, what animal
you're bringing into your life? A Komodo dragon? Komodo dragon? Yeah?
Just one? Or you're going in the whole sea of them?
Just one? Okay, I can't I can't be mad at that.
I can't be mad at that. Like why, Like who
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else has a Komodo dragon? I can't name someone that'd
be crazy acidic saliva. Yeah, that's that's a whole different bag.
Like you can't dogs around like oh yeah, like no one,
no one's I swear, no one's freaking with me. Man,
I like that one. Uh we got it at some point,
do like an Excel chart where everyone's animal they've chosen.
(37:37):
I don't think anyone's done. Komodo dragon. Come on, maybe
this is a drop for a I all right, all right, listen, listen, listen.
Let's let's take away water from a single mother and
ask ai she can go with that water for one day.
It's a good car. Come on, come on, so who's
(37:58):
your old I mean, we're we're not gonna name this.
If you can tell me about naming names, you tell
me about naming names. Waijan no fake wationing though, no no, no,
no no, no. Okay okay, I like how we tried
to do that. So oh man, whoever that is, I
(38:22):
hope they know what's about them when they say okay.
So we have the segment on the radioshow called Wednesday
Wisdom motivational quote or sake either you remind yourself of
or the people around you. So what's that for you?
The motivational quote that's either always going through your head
or you're always telling people around you. Everything comes to
the price. Everything comes with our pride. Everything comes to
(38:44):
the price. Everything you do, everything you don't do, Like
I say, I say that like multiple times a day. Bro,
everything comes to the price. I like that. And the
second one would be okay, yes, okay, is you're gonna
miss heaven by Dude by two inches? Yeah? So it's
like that goes like that's like if you're gonna go
(39:08):
to a fast food restaurant where you're getting small fries,
like get the large, get the large, fries. You know
what I'm saying, don't get twice. That's a good one.
If you're gonna miss having do it by two inches. Yeah,
that's that's like if you're gonna do it anyways, because
it's like the one I always say. I say, we
you know, we put guilt in the place of morality.
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It's like they're not the same thing, you know. It's
like you feel guilty for taking the two, but doesn't
make you more moral when you're already there. Just get
do it too, Yeah, just get it, just get it.
This has been a pleasure. If you guys haven't by now,
no wrap up, I'm still I'm right there. No you
you didn't make it. You didn't make it. It did
make it. We're talking the camera, show the camera, show
(39:49):
the camera. I'll start, I'll start busting rhymes in this
and finished. They say, but what a life is out right? Now?
Please go and listen to that? A pleasure have you
on the show. If you guys want to hear the
radio show live, you can do that every Wednesday at
eleven am, twelve eighty am. Into Disguise of Beast twelve
eighty am in Toronto. Met Radio Dot Online we have
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an actual finished ice cream. I think we're season four.
We got to bring the prize back with surprise. People
are getting custom kicks. Yeah, this is If it was
still around, I would have your head. But we might
have made a prize back for season four. So season four,
when you come back, you've got two projects coming next year.
Season four, we may bring that back. But until next time,
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know yourself. Know you're worth cheers
The old Man. So, hey everyone, this is Yo. It's
your boy, Funky, the coolest teen rapper online. What's up?
It's me Alfie. You're listening to the Cool Table with
a listening to You're listening to the Cool Table. You're
listening to the Cool Table. And I'm not sure if
you know this, but right now you're in the cut
with my man Adril Smile. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening,
(00:24):
and good night. My name is Adri Smiley aka Champion Scribe.
Now on the Cool Table, we challenge I guess to
finish a type of ice cream before the end of
the conversation. Joining us today, Here's a new album out
now called What a Life. He calls his music non
binary and his real name is not his real name.
Welcome to the show, how well for him? Sure shit, Hey, okay,
(00:54):
we got to keep that in. We got to keep
that in. That is so funny. That is so funny. Yeah,
I swear the first sement. Oh my gor sister. That's okay. Yeah,
that's that's the first one. Yeah, that's the last one. Well, yeah,
welcome to the show man. So Bunny, that wasn't even
(01:18):
on purpose, just came out like I was like I realized,
like how long it's this episode? Like how am I
good at finishes? I mean I could do it, so
you feel a confident. It's like yeah, I mean it's
kind of cool down. It's just like frozen. It's just
frozen frozen, so like works. Yeah. Yeah. All our ice
cream for season three is brought to us by Eva's
original Chimneys. Big shot out to EVAs hes ap hechos
(01:42):
apple Pie that this is actually so apple Pie. The
vegan one is the first flavor that I tried as well,
so we're on the same page there. I mean, I'm
lactose intolerance. That's why they're just the vegan one. Tell me, yeah,
some people who are lactos still choose a dairy one
because the trust issues. I appreciate you and my respect
that you didn't do that. I mean, I'm sadistic, but
I'm on roads, you know what I mean? Fair, fair, fair,
(02:04):
I dare it the crib. I'm like, I have a
toiler right here. But if I'm on roads, I'm in
North York. Yeah that's a little crazy. Yeah, you can't
have bubble guts at the time, Like, oh my goodness, Okay,
So I like your chances. I'll do what I can
to give you some time to actually I like your chances.
(02:26):
Let's start. Let's start with that you called your music
or your sound non binary. I thought that was hilarious
but actually pretty accurate. Talk about that, because I feel
like you have one of those sounds that you can't
put at least this album into a box and you
already kind of rap album and talk about that in
a bit. But I used to be a music director
and I always think about the albums I would get
where they would say it's a mix between Tom Petty
(02:48):
and Jah Rule, and You're just like, what does that
even mean? Like you know, but I feel like you
have one of those sounds that is, you know, a
ton of mixes. But I feel like calling a non
binary is safe for been trying to say who it's
a mix of. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's
because honestly, it be hard to pull a bunch of names.
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But like, yeah, the number I thing was a joke,
but it's yeah, if you listen, you should listen to
my album album out What a Life? But yeah, it's
just very sonically everything, you know what I mean? I
grab from everything, So I listen to everything, you know
what I mean. So that's where it comes from. I'm
not trying to like go in the studio, so I
(03:30):
need it's just like my musical diet. So that's why
it comes out here. Yeah, and uh, the streets are
telling me that Kyle is a stage name. Is that correct? Yeah?
So so tell us about that because I always find
interested when someone has a real name as their stage name. Okay,
so yeah, my real name is Jamie Dixon. It sounds
(03:51):
so fake, like if people don't even believe me when
I tell them that. But Jamie Dixon's almost a stage name. Yeah, exactly.
So Kyle Wildfrin came from when I was a kids
get bullied for Jamie. He was the kids say, I
have a girl's name. Okay. So then one day I
came up from school. It's just like grade two and
I was like, Mom, I want to chang my name.
(04:13):
Can I be? Can I be Kyle? Whatever? And she's like, no,
your name is beauty. The footage it's French. It's because
it's about j j A. I am me the French, which, yeah,
I have a cool name. Yeah. Then Wildfrid is the
street my parents bought their first house in Canada, Alford Drive,
Rexty Okay. Soyle. So when I made like my Instagram
(04:35):
handled in high school, it was Kyle Wilfern Okay, and
I went into music. I was like college to be.
I feel like that's how it goes. Like Instagram prepared
all of us for seven stage name. Yeah, because my
last name is actually a Smiley. I sometimes people think
I'm joking, but it actually is Smiley. But when I
first got Facebook, they thought it was not a real name.
So imagine I'm using my real name and they're not
(04:56):
believing me. So I was like, what could I do instead?
So if anyone knows me from this long, I used
to be Adriel Black Smiley on Facebook. I got you.
I got you. And I remember when someone thought that
that my real name was Black Smiley and I'm like,
you know what, my last name is Smiley. That's not
that crazy like they could that's believable. Yeah, I remember
(05:20):
that the Facebook name crackdown, It'll be dimples and oh yeah,
three ESA's in the Wednesday. That's how I found out
about what Kalefa. This girl had Colifa in her name,
and I said, her name is not CLEEFA there's no way.
And then you know it came from there. You said
you got your start at Frosh Week at York. Yeah,
(05:40):
so let's talk about what you were doing before then,
because you you had the skills as a freestyler to
even kind of get a look like that or how
people think you shouldnt look like that. What were you
doing to even get to that level of freestyling before that?
I mean everyone that's what they're boys, you know. So
I never I never made music before that, but we
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were just we would just rap, like my boy come
come over after school, watch like Champions League, then like
going to put a bunch of beats on just wrap
for like two hours like grab. So like I was
just I guess I was just hounding my skills and
ready for the frustrating moment. You didn't even know, like yeah,
(06:22):
when the frust leaders like yo, like you're sick, you
should do this challenge. I'm like, I don't got to.
I got a song, I don't rap, you'd have nothing,
I guess. Yeah. Then my boy started making beats like
around that time, and like he gave me his first
beat and I did it. It's somewhere it's somewhere out there.
I unprivated it. I got privated because I was like,
(06:43):
oh so so you you're already unprivate of it. So
it's it's how they found you can find it. Okay,
I saw that you were gonna do that, he said,
you Now you're saying it's actually out there, So okay,
we're gonna we're gonna find it. We're gonna find it.
Listen to it, now, what do you think about it?
It's not as bad as I cringe because like it's
my first thing, so like it's very wordy. It's very
(07:04):
like rimy, that type of thing. But like and I
was also like sick, I like flu or something, so
my voice is like fake. But it was just hilarious.
But I wanted the thing. I want it, and it
gave me a TV. That's cool. So I had to
like bust home with the TV all the way to Bramson.
But you want to go, I want it. I should
have kept it. Looky, I would love to hear what
(07:25):
that sounds like. Now. I feel like everyone's first like
songs and records is like a whole different person, you know.
It's like listening to early Playboy CARDI it sounds like currency. Yeah,
I mean yeah, my things myself was really rappy for
a long time to like branch. Yeah yeah. And then
you said you that Casey Mustards was kind of like
your entry into country a little bit. I mean, I
(07:46):
mean everyone's first country thing was like or something. You know,
like when you're young, you're really like categorize music like that.
When you're younger, you just it's all popping. Yeah, like
your your parents would play the radio or something saying
like everything's the same. But but like when you're in
high school, you say you don't listen to you listen
everything's of her country or screamer or metal. So then yeah,
(08:10):
but like I think when Casey won or she was
nominated or did she went wing like a new artist
she's nominated yea or something, and like that's when I
really like gave her a chance and I found like
Merry Go Round. Yeah yeah, I was like this is
written like perfectly. I'm like, what the heck I didn't
swear I'm time We got left listen second one because
(08:37):
we had Harrison on the show in season one and
he picked up Casey musk Graves and he was saying,
that's like one of the people he really wants to
work with. So Casey musk Graves, he's cool, table has
some love for you. She yeah. Then like but I was, yeah,
so I gave it a chance then and then I
never really like revisit until like, but I was open
(08:58):
to it then like I went back to it, like
when I songwriting stuff, then I really deep diving into
the country stuff. Like well, and that's why I think
my writing up better, just being open to stuff. Yeah,
I think that's the thing I think I see on
this album a lot is your songwriting that's like it's
not bound to hip hop. Yea. I think hip hop
the version of songwriting. If you only listen to hip hop,
that's all you know, and all the different kinds of
(09:20):
songwriting you're kind of like oblivious to exactly. It keeps
you in a box. I mean, but being a having
a bass as a hip hop writer, it helps because
you want to say like something slick or something or
different way. Yeah, different way of saying and like that
helps you in rooms and stuff. But the songwriting aspect
of like structure and like and what country music company
(09:44):
do is like set a scene because some country music
that you know, a car driving, you know, like where
they are, Like I have a country so called twenty
two and and it's like, yeah, it's all that. It's
like I set this like the woman, the drinking, like
it's all there. That really helped me, like really like
(10:06):
set the table for that. It's called furniture, And I
think the songmy terms called furniture and cut music because
like seventy six Chevy, what type of guitar, Like it's
all there, yeah, And I think like that's something that's
almost natural to them, but it's not natural in other genres.
And I think, like you said, strong structure, that that
was one of the first ones I made because I
(10:27):
had I had a whole notes I'm making notes about
just you know, seeing which you know, the kind of
artists that you are. But then the album itself and
song structure was the first thing I wrote because there's
a bunch of moments where I was like, Okay, he's
not bound by a certain yeah like sixteen hook yeah, yeah, yeah,
because I think that's where you really grow create creatively
(10:48):
because you hear all these songs that I'm sure you've
seen as well where it becomes a hook, but it
wasn't meant to be the hook, and you write this
part that you think is a punchy entry to your verse,
and no, no, that's the hook exactly. Just repeat and
run that back, you know. So I think I see
that a lot on here where you don't have those
kind of bounds. You talked about the first song you made.
(11:10):
You were trying to make Moon by Kanye Oh for
the album yea for the album, not not for the album.
Talk about that moment and like you trying to kind
of emulate that sound. The song is Nuclear Fallout some album.
That's the first song I made for the Badge or no,
I think Okay. I was house sitting for my boy
(11:32):
Jacob and he had a moke one. It's a crazy instrument,
and like I was like, bet, I'm gonna be here
making music while I'm house sitting. I'm gonna start my
album whatever. So I was making stuff. It wasn't I
was just getting used to the instrument. So I made
a few stuff before Nikole fell up. But like when
I watched Donda the First Dream, I was like, bro,
I need a song like Moon, like with Dark tollor
(11:53):
I need some of that. So so you can kind
of hear it because it starts out like Nuclear Falls
starts up like just synths and stuff. I was playing
the synth whatever. Then like it also it just evolves
to something like completely different. Yeah, I'm like I can
go like so maney places with this song. So yeah,
started with that one. Then I just started making a
(12:14):
bunch of other stuff. Yeah, evolved. That was two twenty one, Bro,
that's a while. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, there's a part
of a Nuclear fallowup where you're talking about being comfortable uncertainty.
Talk about that feeling. Is that like something you gained
more through the music or you feel like you always
had that? Man? I mean the album is about it's
(12:34):
really about existentialism and like the journey through life and
like the restle between fate and faith. So as a kid,
like I was like I would have these moments where
I was so struck by like when you die that's it.
Like I was like crippled by it as I couldn't
(12:54):
grasp I had to like sometimes sleep with my sisters
my mom like what do you It's just black. So
I was like there's a lot to handle. Yeah, Like
and growing up in like the church and stuff, I
just didn't really know how to grasp that thing. So
like this album was really for me. It really helped me,
like I never really did it on personal like making
album really like how me grasp with a lot of
these concepts while making it interesting. Yeah, like and like
(13:18):
accidentally and like so in that song, uncertainty in that
song is more more so speaking about because Newclear follows
like the end of a relationship with someone and like
it went nuclear and there's a fallout all that stuff.
So I was like uncertainty with this person, but I'm like,
(13:39):
I don't care as long as we can have like
one more go type of thing. So yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Listen, listen,
listen the songs all I heard it, I heard it,
I clean it up. So where do you feel? Like
(14:02):
you're out with that question now because the whole thing
you're saying about like life and it's over. Like I've
thought about that as all again growing up in the church.
It's like this is just it, Like what's you know?
This is all that comes to. So now that you've
done the album, it's out, Like where are you in
terms of those thoughts? I really think I'm just comfortable
and knowing. I tell myself, I'll get there when I
(14:25):
get there, Like right now, it's just right now, so
you can experience when you're when you're gone, you can't
experience anything that's gone. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
So it's like right now is the only thing that matters. Yeah,
So like I just have comfort in that, and whatever
happens after, it happens after. No, it helped me be
(14:46):
more present, yeah, literally, because it's like there's nothing I
could do. There's nothing, bro nothing, there's nothing. And too,
like there's a long time where I never saw anyone
close to me pass away, and then I saw like
a few people close to me pass away, and like
one from like my one of my great aunts who's like,
you know, was older, she was a full life like
(15:06):
friends in their twenties. Yeah, and it's kind of like
it probably was scary for them whenever they got to
the moment when they were like, Yo, this is it,
you know, but it's like, how are they going to
prepare for that? I'm gonna think about it for eighty years.
It's like, okay, but think about this this whole time.
So now I'm like, you know, it doesn't work like that.
Everything else in life you can prepare for you almost
(15:27):
in a way. But that's one thing that there's no
playbook like you know, so I had to said like
it made me be more present where I was like
listen now live bro. Now it was the only thing
that matters. Like literally, that's that's a nuclear followut is about.
It's just like it's like this world can end. I say,
a bunch in a bunch of cool are it's how
this working end? But I'm like, right now it's just
(15:48):
me and you, like we can get a thing. Yeah,
you have this quote about too many chefs in the
kitchen talking about way cool cool. I literally said a
quote like that last episode We're Shad, we were talking
about how you know, when you get fed food, it
didn't taste better if it's more coloks. You have one
chef the food, and it's just as good to talk
(16:10):
about the experience on learning that because that's something I
repeat in any situation of like more cooks doesn't make
the food better. Yeah, exactly, you need some things. Don't
have to be democracy, bro, for it to work. You know,
you need a leader. Sometimes you need to dictator. Sometimes
you need Donald Trump struck. Yeah, but yeah, like in
(16:34):
terms of way quote, it was our boys and we
were just sometimes hitched in process or execution, and the
number one thing was just putting out this album. It's
just a lot of moving pieces, but it just worked
better when like me and my boys Seagull just took
the reins and like did the merch, like get the
(16:56):
studio time, put out the thing whatever. Yeah. But I
mean sometimes you do need a bunch of chefs in
the kitchen. But that's just synergy and like you know,
I talk about that like when it comes to songwriting
and stuff, like I mean people hite on Drake about
him having like songwriters. He's become the face of it
(17:18):
for some reason. Yeah, but it's beautiful to collaborate and
like when people like discredit him, Oh man, I'm about here,
Glaze and you're no. It was like people discredit him.
But it's like I think of music is food, and
like how can you if the song is good? The
(17:39):
song is good, It's like if you get if if
the chef brings out a plate and you eat it
and it's good, and you're like you would help making
this in fact, you would never do that. You didn't.
You didn't make this by yourself. I mean, I mean
it comes down to like what's the word, Like if
someone lies about making the food by themselves is a problem,
(18:03):
that's different. But it's like, oh, my sous chef, this
is in the kitchen. They chopped pete and it's great.
It's great, you know, I mean, it's beautiful. Now You're
right about him being the face of it, because I
remember when I when I found out about Kanye as
a young fan, I was like, Jesus walks off, Yeah
you didn't write that. I know, he had to help
with rhyan Fest. Yeah, you know, but like find not
(18:25):
about a bunch of records consequence too, And I'm like,
you know what, like these records probably turned out better
because of it. Records and the song I think of
like historically is nothing compared to you Snae O'Connor. I
hadn't heard the Prince one until I heard the Snade
one first. Yeah, so I only know this one, and
(18:47):
the Prince one is still fired. Different different song, but
still fire. But to think that someone could do it better,
you know, it's like you wouldn't even I mean that's
like a lot of rock records. It's like black artists, Yeah,
they're like twenty years ten years ago, these white guys
came through and did it. But like, I mean that's
music man. Yeah. But I think it's like the kind
(19:09):
of education you get from that of like okay, you
learn a new record now or oh so so I
wrote this, Okay, I'm gonna tap in. Yeah. And also,
this is my thing is like when it comes to collaboration,
you want to make the best music. It really does
not matter how it's made. And that's the part that
I think is that's the last Internet thing. It's not
a real life laterally thing because think about you going
(19:31):
to a concert and you're like this cloud guy's all
right he he and then someone goes not but he
wrote all of it and you're like, ah, it's lass
Like yeah, but I mean it's a lot of ego.
It's a lot of ego music in that. I mean
a lot of it's just Twitter bro, Like, no, it's
not real because essentially, think about the biggest artists, all
heavy looked right for them, Like that's almost a stamp
(19:52):
of you being a big artist. The stamp of being
a big artist is that they go and get you
the best writer. No one is listening to Lady God
talking about what she had up writing this fake about
what she like doing that, like it's it's just a
it's a black thing, bro, Yeah, I mean, and like
I mean, some people are plagued by it, like sometimes
(20:16):
you need help making music, like oh my gosh, like
I can swear now jizz, but like look when the
guy took it. This guy took it, Like like I
love Target the creator, Like I said this before, but
I wish you'd make me like branch Ol. You don't
(20:36):
have to all be in your universe. That's a good point.
I never thought about that, but that's a good point.
I think I think I could be good. It could
be good, Like like Jake Jake Colts. I was a
big Jake coldfan and liked be sick if like that's
happened Whenjao did all this features and it was like, yes, yeah,
you're right, because I was. I asked K I said,
if you do plat with no features one more time,
(20:58):
because I'm a huge j Cole fan, I'm a hugely
cool fan. I said, if you do one more time,
I'm sorry, Like you might lose me. Yeah, come on,
I need to hear a verse of course, something about collaboration,
you know. So yeah, I feel I'm not one. Now
I also heard this and I could have confirmed. So
we're doing the Wikipedia check with you right now. Okay,
(21:19):
now you freestyled on family feud. Oh my god? Where
is this footage? I heard about this? CBC? Yes, yes, CVC.
I know where I'm in the build like I should.
I mean, it's on Instagram. I think they posted. Yeah,
they posted a little search tell me about it. I
was like, yo, because we're going to a family forever.
(21:40):
I'm like sick. But I'm like yo, because they vet
you for a minute, like they call you, their talks
with you, trying to get like stuff just to pull
for the show. And I'm like they love that it
made music, Like they're like, oh you wrap. Yeah. Like
I'm like, oh, they better not make me freestyle on TV. Bro.
(22:03):
It's like they better not made me shuck and jive. Bro.
You know they want dog. I get up there and
I can't pay. We're going like krom was bro sky
Sky Jerry Bro making me rap. It was good. I
did well, Thank goodness, goodness, thank John thank John bro
because if I don't think would they put it in
(22:25):
if I was bad? No? Probably not. Yeah, but I
did a look one tool. It was. It was it
was fun experience. Yeah. I was like, because when I
heard that you did that, I was like, you don't
give me the vibe that you wouldn't want to freestyle.
I never met you, but I'm just like, now I'm
just confused. You know nothing about the vibe. Before. I
wasn't like, yo, let me spin it one two man,
(22:47):
let me kick it, let me kick it, give me
a peat box man. I was like, oh or something like,
all right, I might have su I was like, I'm
telling you. I was like, who am I talking to
right now? I was like, wait, they would have cut
(23:08):
the TV so quick. They said, yeah, George Floyd died
for this. He might inspire someone. Go ahead, go ahead ahead.
So what's the percentage of people that complete this, Chris So,
would you say like half at least or more than half? Oh? Yeah? Real?
Here shout out to Ari because Ari coin the phrase
(23:32):
bring your best eater and o'shawn An XP run here
and O'shawan had XP do it for him. And I
was like, i don't know if you're calling XP your
best eater. But by the what Ari said, they had
him man eat it for him, that's you let him
(23:55):
eat it for Oh my goodness, I don't want to
mix up crazy top rope. Yeah that I like. I
like that song. It can't even right away because I
all use that phrase. So I was like, I'm insted
to see what theme he's going top rope? Yeah, how
to use it, like when someone's just doing too much
(24:15):
or you're coming at someone like to it's like you're
not the top rope. That's so talk about about that
record and kind of like what's in that? Yeah, that's
the intro to the album. The album, I mean the
song is about I mean I write it as I'm
dating a professional wrestler. That's why I wrote it, like
(24:36):
in her corner and supporting her and she's going to
be a star, Like that's why I wrote it. But
it's about a partner. That's what that was going for,
like like trials and triopulations and like I thought I'd
be very cute just like not just write as a
lovey dovey easy song. So I was like, I write
it this way, and yeah, it came out really cool.
(24:59):
Checked get out to my album What a Life, debut
album intro, Yeah, stream that, Yeah came really cool, and
like some of my favorite songs, I feel like it
has a little more of inspirational love. Yeah, like you're
building your partner up literally, and like it's like the
top of the album top rope and then jumping into
the album. So that's when just yeah, then each song
(25:23):
because like the album, the album is the story of
a man, so like it starts very optimistic, maybe I
got helps, you can be a star. And then like
the next song is feel Too, and that's about like
being like doubtful of love, and the next song is
nuclear Fallout, the breakup, the Lessons Learned, you know, so
(25:43):
like it just it kind of gets into like a
frustration place. Yeah, Like it starts out it's like are
we good, like you know, yeah, you good, And then
second was like are we good? Yeah, there's oh We're
not good, and the fourth is like, oh I should
have known because that's lesson learned. Then like then the
middle of the albums of the crash, Yeah, listen to it,
What a Life, Listen listen learn It feels like a
(26:07):
fan favorite. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it just goes,
it goes, and it just doesn't stop. I love that song. Yeah.
I love the energy and that it kind of feels
like a driving yeah song like that like that to
me gave like big single energy. Yeah, I mean, I
mean the powers that be they don't want me to
put that. What do you think about that though? Because
(26:28):
I feel like that song has an energy where it
fits the project still, where it's like, okay, if you
if you hear this, you kind of know what the
project is going to sound like still, but it's still
like such a I don't know, it feels like a
song that makes you want to run. Yeah, because yeah,
that's because when it starts it doesn't stop. The drums
are the whole time, and the guitars come in they
don't believe, and like it's just like very high energy. Yeah.
(26:49):
I love this song. It's high octane and it's just
like I could run to it, you can live to it,
drive really fast on the fur went to it? What
comes after m M the second half of that song.
There's a couple songs I hear that I'm like, these
could have been like their own, so you know what
I'm saying like a certain part of the record, Yeah,
(27:12):
the sinse get like heavy talk about that record because
I feel like what you have on this album, which
is very very rare, is like the production is its
own story in a sense, like if you didn't have
no lyrics on this, I can see the production and go, Okay,
this is where we're going and we're moving. What comes
after is when I think of that fits that, so
(27:34):
talk about that one. Yeah. Yeah, the spoken with production
is very intentional because the sonics, because I tell it
narratively for the lyrics, but the sonics dick take that
as well, because when it gets what comes after, it's
very like slows down right away from lessons learned. Yeah,
and then it's very introspection. But I don't know, I'm
(27:57):
drunk of that introspective and like, yeah, it starts just
me questioning about what comes after, you know, the whole
thing we're talking about earlier, but what's after death? And
like then when it gets to the end, it's like
it builds up, then the shrinks and it builds up again.
(28:18):
Then it's like type of release and it's just like
accepting that, like you just don't know. And then it
leads into like crazy stuff after that. I didn't know
about the whole death thing when I heard that's like myself.
But now that you tell me that, I can kind
of see, and I think the second release now makes
more sense because it's like to go to go up,
(28:41):
come back, and then go up and out. Yeah, you know,
it's just like it's like, okay, well then the guitar solo,
the drums, it's like it leads into sinning the nude
and then like yeah, that's when it gets crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
What would you say is this is the soundtrack like
for this album terms of where people should listen to.
But man, that's a good question. At your ex's house X,
(29:08):
there are not not there not So you're in the
air excess house, but they're not there, not there. You
know what. That's an insane answer, but you might be right.
Like I'm deep in it, and I say, like, hell,
how anxious and energy. It's like like lesson learned is
when you're like running around these trying to put things
(29:29):
back more taken up. It's just like what am I
doing here? Like one hundred percent, I went to an
excess place to get my stuff and this would have
been the soundtrack for that. Yeah, this would have been
It's just an emotional rollercoaster them they're not. It's just
like as everything, Like yeah, no, this would have been
the purpose soundtrack. Like it's not somber, but it's still
(29:53):
not calm. Yeah, and like if they're there, you know,
it could be a good time and it's gonna be
a bad block spin. You gonna think about it, like
what did I do? Like, you know, it's all day,
you know what I mean? Are you pro block spin?
Is that what you're sugesting to the people. No, no, no,
that's not your final answer. I mean you got it,
(30:16):
So you gotta do it at least. You gotta do
at least once in your life. You gotta do at
least ones. Okay that I can go sign because like then,
like you really you gotta learn, bro, you got to
jump in the fire sometimes. You got to do it,
get out of your system and then you could be
like I'll never do this again. Do it, and you
gotta do it least, especially because when you have you
have the worst block spin of all time. It's said
(30:39):
you want to spath like you're just like I'm actually
good now I don't need to do this basically ever again.
But it doesn't work like that. I know I'm speaking
from a place it's like that does it does not
work like that. I have I spend many blocks. Let's
talk about this cue put the process your off duty
(31:01):
for now? Yeah? Fuck, let it up? There you go.
That's better in the jins, Ben the jest. A lot
of things are better than like this ice cream. Hey apple,
vegan spongers, stupid, They're gonna love that one. Let's talk
about this project you got coming out next, the rap
(31:22):
project that you've been working on. What can you tell
us about how long you've been working on it for?
What's it gonna sound like? I made it in like
a week and a half. Yeah, I'm still thinking I'm
gonna do another batch for it. But like I made
it when I got fired from Walmart. Okay, it's called
(31:47):
Stolen George. They can deduce, you can deduce, you know. So,
like I was in a little vibe and I just
made the most belligerent It's so dumb. It's so dumb,
because you know how this album is very thought. Yeah,
this is just the first thing I think. I said it,
and I say a lot of bad things, a lot
(32:07):
of silly things. Have a song there called Cammage. I
have a song called so Gay. I have a song
called hall Coked where I say that hard are it's foolishness,
but it's just fun, like my friends really loving. I'm
excited to put it up. Yeah, do you have a
time you thinking to put this out? Or you're still
letting this marinello? Can you said you're gonna make another batch? Yeah,
I mean I'm gonna be finished it before the years
(32:30):
of but I'm gonna put it out spring next year,
like right, I feel like deluxe, so like I'm not
holding them for too long. Okay, okay, that's coming soon.
How many songs you're thinking I have on that. I
think it's gonna be eight, but like they're short, it's
gonna be like a twelve minute project. It's quick. It's
just dumb, bro, It's so dumb. And when did you
make this a game? You said? You said around the
(32:50):
same time or before this, I'm not in the parking lot.
After being escorted up hit my boys like any beats.
I went home that week I have I was the
first time I was off work for like in so long.
Make this make the album crazy, it made some stupid
it's the stupidest music. Do we have a name for
this stolen George? Okay, Okay, that's why I'm like, you
(33:13):
can deduce ye maa my ex my, I'm excited for
this rap project you have coming. I think especially you're
putting it out after What a Life. I think it
fits better than putting out before with A Life. Yeah,
it's no. He's like, we're gonna run this thing, roll
up when the Juno for yeah, speak it and then
(33:37):
when I think I'm gonna drop it right literally the
same day, literally, like we had a meeting last night
talking about the I'm like, when to roll us up,
dropped de Luxe fort for the Life on top of
the Year, got former songs, and then like when we
won the Juno, here's the dumb thing like archive everything
on my page. Everything. Yeah, it dropped so gay, like straight,
(34:02):
straight up, what category would you even be in the Junos?
You're the same album of the Year straight. I think
we're alternative okay and new artists, Yeah, because like that's
what I think what life is just alternative because like
what else can you say? Yeah, I mean Spotify is
finally give me the rock playlist and stuff. Yo, we
(34:23):
put up I think we put our top rope and
the person top rope, and they put us on like
Northern Bars on Spotify. Like I was like, oh yeah,
guy said yeah, oh my fuck, You're right, I see
what it is. I was like, fair, but yeah, I
was the face of the new rock playlist. Okay, Okay,
(34:46):
I like that, Yeah, because Northern Bars is not. Yeah,
like you have songs like that are for that for sure? Not?
You know. Yeah, I think I think we to see
where you're have with ice cream chill facts. I mean,
come on, let's see. Point to the camera, let's see. Okay.
(35:06):
I'm like, I'm like, I got like thirty five percent. Okay, okay,
we're good. You got some time some time. I want
to ask you about the song that's not on the project,
because this is a song that my old nine means
coming onto this record and oh no Consume with jewels,
(35:27):
Oh no, talk about that one. I think I know
you're's talking about, yeah, consume. We want to know a
but oh, I mean, yeah, it's my little cute R
and B R and B record. You know I'm singing
on that. I think that's one of the first songs
I put up with no autitune, so I'm like, really
a single mind on it. But yeah, it's one of
(35:49):
my most popular songs, and it's in the window in there,
you know. I just want I was like, can I
make a Can I make a song that people don't
even know it's there? If you really deep? We're all
making more music like that though, because I like that record.
I feel like you sound like you fit on there,
(36:11):
Like I hadn't heard you do that sound before. So
I was kind of like, am I just not aware
of his music as I thought I was? Or like
has he changed his sound? I'm just new to it now,
So would you do more? And stuff like that. I
have an album coming out at the end of next
year called The Last Songs I Wrote, which is like
more than that band or ballads and things like that.
(36:31):
So like when I make music, I usually work on
a bunch of stuff at the same time. HM. So
it's like, Okay, this is for this, this is for this, Okay, yeah,
more songs like that coming soon for sure. Okay. I'm
happy to hear. I'm happy to Yeah. So when people
get a hundred million dollars, they add an exotic animal
into their life. I don't make the roles. This is
just how they do it, Okay. Justin Bieber with his monkey,
(36:54):
Mike Tyson with his tiger, Michael Jackson with his monkey.
So when you get a hundred million dollars, what animal
you're bringing into your life? A Komodo dragon? Komodo dragon? Yeah?
Just one? Or you're going in the whole sea of them?
Just one? Okay, I can't I can't be mad at that.
I can't be mad at that. Like why, Like who
(37:15):
else has a Komodo dragon? I can't name someone that'd
be crazy acidic saliva. Yeah, that's that's a whole different bag.
Like you can't dogs around like oh yeah, like no one,
no one's I swear, no one's freaking with me. Man,
I like that one. Uh we got it at some point,
do like an Excel chart where everyone's animal they've chosen.
(37:37):
I don't think anyone's done. Komodo dragon. Come on, maybe
this is a drop for a I all right, all right, listen, listen, listen.
Let's let's take away water from a single mother and
ask ai she can go with that water for one day.
It's a good car. Come on, come on, so who's
(37:58):
your old I mean, we're we're not gonna name this.
If you can tell me about naming names, you tell
me about naming names. Waijan no fake wationing though, no no, no,
no no, no. Okay okay, I like how we tried
to do that. So oh man, whoever that is, I
(38:22):
hope they know what's about them when they say okay.
So we have the segment on the radioshow called Wednesday
Wisdom motivational quote or sake either you remind yourself of
or the people around you. So what's that for you?
The motivational quote that's either always going through your head
or you're always telling people around you. Everything comes to
the price. Everything comes with our pride. Everything comes to
(38:44):
the price. Everything you do, everything you don't do, Like
I say, I say that like multiple times a day. Bro,
everything comes to the price. I like that. And the
second one would be okay, yes, okay, is you're gonna
miss heaven by Dude by two inches? Yeah? So it's
like that goes like that's like if you're gonna go
(39:08):
to a fast food restaurant where you're getting small fries,
like get the large, get the large, fries. You know
what I'm saying, don't get twice. That's a good one.
If you're gonna miss having do it by two inches. Yeah,
that's that's like if you're gonna do it anyways, because
it's like the one I always say. I say, we
you know, we put guilt in the place of morality.
(39:28):
It's like they're not the same thing, you know. It's
like you feel guilty for taking the two, but doesn't
make you more moral when you're already there. Just get
do it too, Yeah, just get it, just get it.
This has been a pleasure. If you guys haven't by now,
no wrap up, I'm still I'm right there. No you
you didn't make it. You didn't make it. It did
make it. We're talking the camera, show the camera, show
(39:49):
the camera. I'll start, I'll start busting rhymes in this
and finished. They say, but what a life is out right? Now?
Please go and listen to that? A pleasure have you
on the show. If you guys want to hear the
radio show live, you can do that every Wednesday at
eleven am, twelve eighty am. Into Disguise of Beast twelve
eighty am in Toronto. Met Radio Dot Online we have
(40:12):
an actual finished ice cream. I think we're season four.
We got to bring the prize back with surprise. People
are getting custom kicks. Yeah, this is If it was
still around, I would have your head. But we might
have made a prize back for season four. So season four,
when you come back, you've got two projects coming next year.
Season four, we may bring that back. But until next time,
(40:36):
know yourself. Know you're worth cheers
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