Atlanta Turns Into a Bracket Buster, Could There be More Surprises in Chicago?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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version two points here it is. When mister Scotty was
what's happening there?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Was man gonna make a point of order real quick?
Oh yeah, for sure, just right off the top of yeah,
I read something from Jeff Gluck. No, okay, okay, like
one of the mighty, the fine, fine writers that they're
left with NASCAR. He said in this tweet, I really
wish there was a second chance bracket in the in
season tournament. Feels like so many brackets got busted, but

(00:48):
there's not much to follow for a lot of people
who wanted to play along.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh there totally isn't okay.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Point of order.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
No one cares, No one does care, And this is
just going to reinforce it when no but he you
know who might have kind of sort of carred, you know,
just doesn't care either.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah. If every if every matchup, if every matchup's an upset,
then there are no upsets exactly exactly, and it's not
like it was a head to head drag race. It
was because of the fact that Denny Hamlin turned half
the damn track because he got too much of a
draft and ran into John Herniman. Check.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, I mean there was there was two big res.
But but the big one obviously was that Denny Hamlin won,
and like it was like half the freaking field.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Dude, remember Big Ren of the band, No huh, they
sang that the singing band the song there's their hot
song was called that song. Oh okay, Canadian band. Just
try to throw that out there in any case. Yeah,
I mean, the the the impetus of this whole race was, hey,
look at all the res we can have at this race. Draft,
there's nothing else going on?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, there wasn't. Chase Elliott won and you know he
was up there near the front, so it makes sense
that he won. I was really hoping the bride kid
last you will pull it out and he had a
chance there. But Chase wins. They ring the bell, everybody's
happy or whatever. But twenty six percent of this race
was run under caution, and that's not considering the red
flag after Denni wreckt and and then the rain at

(02:13):
the beginning and it was all right. So the classic
example of what the race was like, and the easiest
way to figure out what the race was like is
to go back and watch the highlights, right, because the
highlight reel should have the best parts. And the highlight
reel that I watched, which I think was strangely enough
from like listening on Fox's channel, but it was NASCAR branded,

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like the whole affing thing was rex. They showed the beginning,
they said that it was raining, and then there was
a bunch of res and then that little bit at
the m where Chase Eliopass's break is Laski.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Because it's it's it's essentially an old plate race. Yeah,
an exciting goes on, You get into a pack drafting,
and then that's it. Like you wait, you basically wait
and get your and you're just ready to go. Just
talk about how great the big wreck is and and
and that's is it. A big, beautiful wreck. Was a

(03:08):
beautiful wreck, best wreck we've had.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
And honestly, that's what it felt like, because like even
when you looked at NASCAR's official channels, it was all
that shot of Denny Hamlin starting to go left and
triggering the big wreck. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Instagraham had six posts of just that wreck.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, And it's like, on one hand, I get it,
it's a big thing that happened during the race, But
when that's the highlight of the race, then they're not racing.
They're just wrecking. That's all they're doing.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, it's it's followed the leader. There's not really the
oh I I I say. There was the photo finish,
then the stage too. They were all hammed up about
oh yeah they were, they were, but still even that,
it's just like, Okay, that's one part of actual racing
and everything else is just to survive the the outer
loop of the Beltway exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, And it's super frustrating for two reasons. Number one,
because if that's what you have to rely on, right,
then you're not doing it right. Like every so often
there's a fight in hockey, right, but if but if
you watch the game highlights, and the game highlights where
a couple of guys like like the opening face off

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right and then just like fifteen minutes of dude's fighting
and then like a goal at the end, then you'd
be like, well that was super wild. But it wasn't
a hockey game. It was just a freaking fight. You know,
it's just happen to be on ice. Same thing here, Like,
if that's what NASCAR has to hype up, then they're
missing the point of what they're supposed to be doing,
which is racing. And then the second thing I read

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somewhere and I feel really bad because I read it
today or yesterday, and I can't remember who wrote it,
but they made a very good point. They were like,
you know what, it's super like shortsighted and a little
bit ironic that when they made the decision to reconfigure
Atlanta to make it into a plate race, they were
doing it because at the time, intermedia track racing was

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super super boring and super generic everywhere. Then they come
out with like this new car, with this next gen car.
The car is terrible, but the one thing, the only
thing that it actually does relatively well, is intermedia track racing.
But they had already taken it away at that point,
and so there was a chance that we could have
gone back to like some of those old old school

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type of Atlanta races. I mean, you think of Kansas
and how good the racing is there. With this car,
it's like the only thing that it actually does halfway decent.
And they took Atlanta away and they replaced it with
what we've got here, which is Daytona light and everybody
just reckon.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, and I mean and you just look at it,
and Atlanta's kind of just been that way. It started
to get that way before the next gen car came
into and now it's just man, it's it's something you
just kind of look at and just like, man, they
really should have taken just had one race there, take
a wait a second one.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, they really should because the car I wasn't even
that good anyway, It never really is in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
And ever and again, Saturday night it's not a short
track race. I mean, you do Saturday night short tracks
like that's the again, like that is the the gimmick,
and you do a big one maybe Daytona, but even
Daytona the fourth of July a Daytona wasn't all that
great time and time.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, Saturday Night traditionally struggles. In fact, let's talk about
the ratings of which were dismal. One point six million
people watched on the Return to TNT one year ago,
exactly one year ago they were racing in Nashville. Now
that number was double, it was three point twenty four million,
but that was on NBC, so you can't really compare those.

(06:41):
Best comparison would be to go to the second Atlanta
Race last year, which was on USA Network. Even that
was at two point zero two million, and that was
in September, when the numbers are traditionally lagging because you're
getting into Baseball playoffs on top of everything else.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I mean, I'm at a point where you promote
and I didn't watch. I didn't watch. I'm not gonna
lie to you. I don't have the TNT. But how
much were they promoting that in season gimmick?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I don't know, I really watch that much of it either.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Okay, all right, cool, we're both in the same boat here. Yeah,
I mean at the same time. It's just like if
if you had the lead up, the lead up to
this whole thing wasn't as big as it was Amazon,
You're getting back to TNT. Everyone's just like, okay, whatever. Impactfully,
I guess on their TV side, it wasn't the linear side,

(07:37):
not the best. However, huge numbers for them on the
social media platforms okay, with Bleacher Report, br Racing and
a home of highlights. They generate seventeen million video views
from NASCAR over the weekend because of the REX. Because
of the REX and because people got pushed to it.
And it's also the first time since TNT he's aired

(08:00):
to race since twenty fourteen. Yeah, so I'm sure people
were pretty interested to see how that happened and how
it went off. But even so, I mean, that's that's
big on the on the social media side, and that's
what people really care about that aren't NASCAR fans, are
the REX and the close finishes because it's.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
A short clip that has a lot of definitive action,
even if you don't know who's in it, like you'll
know that Denny Hamlin triggered. You don't even know who
Denny Hamlin is, But there's there's a payoff. There's a
quick payoff there in terms of the action.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, And I mean you see that, and again it
goes to the whole thing that we've the drum, we've
been banging, make races shorter. Yeah, pension spans are too
short to get him.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Back exactly exactly, And like you said, it was a
Saturday night Saturday night racists don't do traditionally as well.
They never ever have. That's why, you know, the Richmond
races are now on Sunday instead of on Saturday night.
But it did make me think a little bit because
the number was so low that you know, obviously switching

(09:03):
up the networks doesn't help. And on top of that,
you know, I thought about what if there was another sport,
Like what if we were in you know, the Baseball
playoffs or something like that, or the NBA Finals, or
you know, a regular just a regular old NFL game,
if there was one on Saturday night, like they would

(09:23):
pull people, like, they would get people to watch, and
NASCAR struggles to And it makes me wonder. It gives
me the impression that people aren't watching NASCAR on Saturday
night because they have something better to do. In their mind,
they're like, I don't I mean, this is on, but
I'm doing things, so I'm not gonna watch it on Sunday.
It makes me think that they're like, well, I don't

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really have anything to do, so I guess I'll watch it.
And yeah, that could get some people in, but it
doesn't feel like the right way of attracting an audience,
you know. I mean, if they're only going to watch it,
if they don't have anything better to do, then that
means you aren't giving them the better thing to do.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
And by and large, you see people ticking off as well,
because it's like, well this is kind of boring. Yeah,
and I love it just where they pass out on
TV stays on and that's good for the number. But
I mean at the same time, it's just like their
Saturday night race is. Yeah, there is other stuff going on,
especially going into you know, a holiday week and everything

(10:24):
that's going on there. And I mean this weekend, it's
it's on a Sunday. People will be winding down and
maybe it is on a Sunday, right for the love Yeah, okay,
thank god? Uh So, so I mean you got people
winding down for a weekend. They'll sit down and watch
it because it is a gimmick of Chicago, try to
take their mind off everything else going on in the

(10:44):
world for Christ's sake.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Uh And then.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Maybe they'll get a big number that way, just because
of the extravage Ganza. But I mean, by and large,
I mean you the thing is that they don't in
that number, that rating did not include anything on Max.
So because that number didn't include anything on Max from
what I saw, then that you know, who knows how
many people watch it on Max? There could be even

(11:08):
if they released that number, because I mean, I'm sure
the same people watch the Amazon will watch on Max
if it if it was given the option. But still
in any case, it's like if you're just relying on people,
like you said, they have nothing better to do, not
a good plan. Because I don't see an interesting point
to this, and I was gonna bring this up later
later on in just kind of a non sequitever, but
it bleeds into this. How many people do you see

(11:32):
I'm sure it's different because it's it's Palm Springs, California.
How many people do you see that have a number
of a car on the back of their windshield or
on the bumper or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Man, you know, it does happen. I have seen a couple,
but they're like old numbers. Yeah, like like every so often,
and usually it won't be like right around where I live.
It'll be like when it starts to like go straight
out a little bit into the countryside more and I'll
I'll see a twenty or Strangely enough, I've seen a
couple of twelves. Wow, yeah, I know that's how old

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they get that they go back. Yeah, exactly, And so
I'll see a couple here and there. But it's pretty rare.
It really is pretty rare.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I saw I saw a number twenty two on the
back of a truck today and I was like, when's
the last time I saw a number? I know, well,
especially up here in Harford County.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you figure we would see a couple
at least.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
You would think. I mean, you have people out there,
you know, you become race fans for dover weekend or whatever.
But still, I mean, I'm just I'm thinking, like, even
even when I go into town and stuff like that,
there's nobody that really necessitates a big NASCAR feeling. That's
just bad marketing on their part.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. You know, it's very interesting.
I also read, and this was today that apparently Ryan
Blaney was on the Door Bumper Clear podcast. Is that
one of the Dale Junior It's a Dale Junior one, Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
It basically spotters talking about the race, okay, and they.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Had they had Ryan Blaney on and they were discussing
the Atlanta ratings, right, and they were comparing them to
the Formula one ratings, which I did not put on
our notes, but Atlanta was one point six million, was
the official TV number, and then that was on saturdayday nights,
so on Sunday morning, then F one was kind of

(13:20):
clear to see if they could get a number that
that could beest that and I think they were in Australia, Austria.
Something starts yeah, yeah, well there is there is the
Red Bull Ring in Austria, but I don't think that's
where they were. Let's hear quick. Uh they were at

(13:40):
oh wait, the Spanish GP was the twenty ninth. Oh,
then I'm totally wrong. If they were in oh no, no,
no it was it was sorry, sorry, no it was.
It was Austria. It was the Austrian GP, which I'm
assuming is that the Red Bull Ring. Yes, it's at
the Red Bull Ring. That one did and I'm sure
it was in like at the buck crack of dawn.
I mean it's other side of the world, right, that

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pulled at one point one, like one point one million,
and they were like, hey, you know, given the times
that they were on and Formula one, was you know,
not that far away from NASCAR, and Ryan Blainey's take was,
what do you mean it wasn't that far. We were
five hundred thousand people ahead of them. We have five
hundred thousand people more watching us than watching them, And

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then his literal quote is, I mean, look at that difference.
We're killing it right now. And I'm like, dude, you
can say you're ahead of Formula one. I get that,
but one point six million is far from killing it.
I think that's polishing a turd right there and.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Saying you're beating somebody by five hundred k Yeah, when
it's not a home when it's not a home grown race,
when it's not a race that is in the same
country as the people. Exactly, you got people, you got
people waking up, you got you got people waking up
to get that one one. Yeah, yeah, for sure, like
you have people setting setting time side and things like that.

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I had friends it would would uh set aside money
to go down to Austin for the F one race
down there, like to travel to it. I don't hear
that same people saying, oh, I'm going to set aside
this money to go to Daytona or go to go
to the street course, race or anything like that. Like
F one F one's brilliance is in their marketing, oh
for sure. And that's the one thing that Nascar it refuses.

(15:23):
I'm not gonna say, haven't they refuse to do because
they're like, well, we're the only and it kind of
it kind of breeds to their their hubris is just like, well,
we don't need we don't need to market anything like that.
We're the only game in town, right And then they
go to court and say, but no, we're not the
only in town. These guys go out so but I mean,
it's one of those deals where it's just like, man,

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if you if you were about to embark on something
where you're given you're getting seven billion dollars over the
course of seven years for a TV deal, you think
you do more to markets and market the teams and
do everything else you could do to get the popularity
so you can show these places. Hey, we're giving you

(16:06):
the most for your bucket. You didn't you didn't waste
your money. But the problem with NASCAR is NASCAR is
one big incestuous fetish place where they're just like, we're
the only family to go go in there. We're only
one family that runs the whole thing the entire time,
and we can do what the hell we want. Thank
you for the money. Screw yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And and you know, I appreciate, you know, blame me
being like trying to support right, I mean, yeah, he's
definitely doing the RaRo team. But yeah, yeah he was
overly optimistic. But I think you nailed it. I think
you absolutely nailed it, because one of his criticisms was like, oh,
who cares if you know one point one people? One

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point one million people watched that parade happen. We had
a real race and we got one point six millions,
did you though?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Ryan?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
And and the thing is that sometimes, and very often,
Formula One is not as interesting of a series in
terms of its actual racing. There's not nearly as much
passing that goes on, and there certainly is in contact
hardly ever in Formula One like there is in NASCAR.
Nascar could be perceived as better racing by a wide

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number of people, but they are just so shit at
marketing it. I mean, he says this right after that
movie comes out with freaking Brad Pitt in it, and
like everybody looks all like super sexy and like like sophisticated,
and the way that they position that sport as like
these modern day gladiators that are also like, you know,

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ultra elite in you know, both in terms of their
wealth and how they present themselves. Right, they embraced that
we're the rich people playing type of thing, and it worked.
It totally worked. We're like spoiled rich kids and we
all fight with one another on and off the track,
and that like resonated because people love drama nowadays, Like

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that's why they watch reality shows. They're looking for that
over the top drama. In NASCAR, they built themselves as
like this good old boys sport where we're like the
salt of the earth, and they're still trying to portray
themselves as that even though they aren't. Like those people
are all the rich kids now and so NASCAR is
just so bad at marketing themselves. If they would have

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followed the same route as F one, then they could
probably have competed at least somewhat competitively on a larger
stage with those guys by positioning the drivers as what
they are, which has spoiled rich kids fighting with one
another all the time.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
To three points one We always know that that F
one was sexy and hot, and I had all the
hot drivers we saw driven in two thousand and one
exactly two. Don't worry Days of Thunders having it. They're
starting to film that, are they for real? Yeah? Jerry
Bruckheimer says, we're moving. Okay. So so you're telling me

(19:01):
the Talladega Knights, the most recent NASCAR movie, is not
as sexy as this F one movie with Brad Pitt.
You're trying to tell me that that that that that
Will Ferrell does not bring the sex appeal to that
doesn't make those panties drop like Brad Pitt does, even
though he's in advanced age.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
It is telling that that that the vast majority of
people that you would ask on the street if you
said name a NASCAR movie, that's the one they would
name over over Days of Thunder.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, because there's how many NASCAR movies? I think three? Yeah,
probably it's it's Dates of Thunder, It's Talladega Knights, It's
cannon Ball Run. No.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Oh oh, no, you have forgotten. You have forgotten a
classic and all time classic. Oh god, six Packs starring
Kenny Rodgers, The Roaster Man.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I did forget that. You're absolutely correct, because I was
not alive with that in mid You were in your
mid twenties.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You were definitely not alive when that one came out.
Oh my gosh, I gotta go see if I can
find that on like Netflix or some streaming service. I
want to watch it now.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh god, Oh it's so bad, man oh man Shevitz.
But anyway, how how many people? How what was the
percentage you think happened out of if this was a
good race? Oh, according to the glicometer. Okay, so I'm
gonna I'm gonna call it this now the glicometer.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I like that. We should probably popularize that and then
try to get like some sort of credits on the
back end.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Exactly. Sure. So thirty seven thousand, over thirty seven people.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
That is a huge number of votes, dude, fourth most votes. Wow,
that is crazy. And of course he only leaves it
open for twenty four hours and something that means that,
like the people there, there were people that were watching
on Saturday night that were genuinely engaged. NASCAR needs to
pay attention to this. It's the best research they have,
you know, personally, because it was all about the Rex

(21:00):
and I don't consider that to be racing, then I
would say, no, it wasn't a good race. However, Chase
Elliott won, Yeah, and so that's gonna like sway a
lot of people, and there was a lot of back
and forth, especially at the end between him and Brad Keselowski.
So I'm gonna say, even though for me, like if

(21:21):
I had to rate it between one and one hundred,
I put it in like the thirty eight to forty
percent range, I'm gonna say it did about fifty six.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Percent nine zero point five. It was a good race. Really,
ninety point five percent of people said it was a
good race, the number two race of the season so far,

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and the thirty eighth member third this year of the
ninety percent or above Globe.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Wow, I am I'm just that and I was floored. Yeah,
I'm genuinely shocked by that. I mean, all right, well,
if the res, the res obviously make a difference to people.
So who am I to say that they're wrong?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
They it was the second top race of the season,
second to Michigan this year, wow, which was ninety two point.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Two, which was genuinely a good race. Yeah, so weird,
that is so strange that one.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Really that really uh gob smacked me. As the kids
like to say that.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's just like the same people reacted to a genuinely
good race where there was racing right, and then they
had the same reaction to a race that was largely
determined by who didn't wreck. Go figure, what do I know? So, uh,
Chase Elliott wins his first victory of the season. William

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Byron keeps the top spot in the standings, but because
of that win, his lead is now down to thirty
seven over Elliott. Kyle Larson is thirty to forty two back,
and then Dennie Hamlin and Christopher Bell their fourth and fifth,
both of them or eighty points out. Hamlin right now
has the tie breaker at the bottom of the top sixteen.
It is wild right now, all right. So Josh Berry

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and Chiane van Gisbergen are outside of the top sixteen,
but they both have a win. Austin Sindric is fifteenth.
So the sixteenth place driver, which off the top of
my head I think, is Eric Jones. I don't have
it in front of me. He wouldn't be in, and
then Sindric would be the next guy. But he's already
in because of a win. So that makes fourteenth places
the one that gets bumped out by Josh Berry, and

(23:35):
so that means your cut line now resides at thirteenth. Overall,
that driver is Bubba Wallace. He's twenty three points ahead
of Ryan Priest and he's sixteen behind Alex Bowman. So
we still have a little bit of fight going on
in there. And because it was Elliott's first win, we
now have twelve winners in eighteen races with eight to

(23:56):
go until the playoffs. And that means that if it
started today, we would get four drivers in on points,
but they had to go man and and two road
courses in those eight so Noma and in Chicago this weekend.
You know, who knows what might happen. We could have
fourteen different winners just because of those two road courses.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, and I could really slice and dice some things up,
yeah for sure. But yeah, I mean it keeps things interesting.
I mean it's something that NASCAR can not promote for
the rest of the year and then oh, playoffs are here.
It's like, Okay, good job, team, we did it. We
you know what, smashing, good job everyone did great. Appreciate

(24:34):
everybody's effort. It was. It was a smashing job, and
they cash the check. That's the thing that gets me
every two weeks, the people in the marketing department cash
check that they don't deserve.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh my gosh. And even with something like this atlantack Fest,
like if you had positioned the sport properly, then you know,
from a marketing standpoint, that you could play this up
and be like, look at all this drama that just
played out these you're gonna be pissed at one another,
And instead they're all just like, oh, well, that's just
racing here, you know, and then they move on. Like like,

(25:07):
if you're gonna have a wreck fest and people are
gonna apparently like it a lot, then they should have
leaned into that whole idea, building up to it and
then coming back. But I mean we're talking about not
a failure of a couple of weeks, talking about the
failure of years of time that they could have been
building this image for the sport that they just never have.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, because they're idiots. They're not a great and they're
not a great team. They don't know what they get,
they don't know how to get out their own ass
Why why, Because by and large they were never they
had never never had this competition for any other racing
and f one comes in they just caught flat footed.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, absolutely, you're absolutely right. All right. So the other
side effect of this whole Atlantis s mcgege with everybody
wrecking is, like you mentioned at the beginning of the show,
the ridiculous in season tournament challenge whatever they're calling it. So,
so these were the drivers that were knocked out in

(26:02):
the first round of a five race competition. Denny Hamlin done,
Kyle Busch done, Ross Chastain out, Christopher Bell nope, William
Byron out, Ryan Blaney, and Kyle Larson. All of them
are done. So the vast majority need.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
They don't push the needle. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
The vast majority of your most popular drivers are out
after one round, right, and then on top of that,
all all three wait because it's Belle, Hamlin and Larson,
all that, all three of the drivers that have won
more than one race this year out in the first round,

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all three of them.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Logano not in here, and I'm not seeing him in
the area.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Logano got bumped out too. I don't know. I have
it on the list, but he got.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Bumped out, the defending champion.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Defending champion bump out. In fact, I'm looking at the
standings right now, William Byron byra okay, first place, Byron out.
Elliott's still in it. He's the guy right now, right,
He's still in it. Third place, Larson out, fourth place,
Handlin out, fifth place, Bell out, sixth place, Redick is
still in ye uh, seventh place, Blaney out, eighth place,

(27:19):
Ross Chain ross Chess staying out, ninth place, Chris Busher
is in and I oh, and then ten place Chase
Brisco He's out two yep, so out of the top
ten drivers. Let's let's go down to Logano as well,
since he's eleventh in the standings. So out of the
top eleven drivers in the standings, what did I name
like three that are still in it? Yeah, nobody is

(27:43):
ever gonna care. Here are the matchups. Tie Dylan versus
Bray Keselowski. This is for this weekend in Chicago. Alex
Bowman versus Bubba Wallace.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
That could be hey, that was interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, that one's interesting. There's a downside of that, and
I'll mention in a second John hum Hunter, Nima Chuck
versus Chase Elliot. We all know who's gonna win that one.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, you can't say that now, I guess not. We
can't say that.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, Eric Jones versus Ricky Stenhouse Junior. Everybody's gonna wonder
the outcome of that one. Uh Noah Gregson and Ryan Pries,
Carson Hosovar and Tyler Reddick A j Allmendinger versus Todd Gibbs.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That could be your upset.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
And then Zane Smith versus Chris Bouchet.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
How did Zane Smith get fourteenth in this?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I know because of the stupid seed.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I have not heard of him all year, and he's like,
oh yeah, in the middle of the pack for this exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean, John is driving a full season.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
John Hunter Nimachek is the twelve seed in this competition.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
You did have a couple of good runs though in
that five in that five race, gimmick, I guess, or however,
rest it was because they were they were shouting him
out a little bit when they stop slopping on Jose
of Ar.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now, the problem here is that talking about well, I'm
looking at the top ten droid, the guys in the
top ten that I said we're in. I don't think
any of them are against each other right now. But
the only real drivers of note, the drivers of interest
that are left, I would say, are both drivers and

(29:15):
Alex Bowman, Bubba Wallace competition, and then Tyler Reddick. And
you could argue Carson Hosovar just because the media loves
him and everybody else hates him, so he draws a
lot of attention. But the problem there is they're matched
up against each other, and so that means that after
this round, fifty percent of the interesting drivers that are
left are going to be gone guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh yeah, uh, they really did. They really should have
just reseated everything. Man, they're making up the rules as
they go.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean, my bracket is of course destroyed. I'm
going with Zane Smith now.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't even do a bracket because it's so dumb.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
It is dumb.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
This is some idea I hate. In the middle of
the season, We're just gonna have this random ass tournament.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I mean, that's the thing about that. They wanted it
to have that bracket idea, like the excitement of a bracket,
just like the NC double A tournament. Well, in the
NC Double A tournament, three or four number ones don't
get beat in the first round. Oh, you're as much
as I want Duke to lose, they're not gonna lose.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Not in the first round.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Also of course not. Oh man, it's so pointless. And
this just emphasizes the pointlessness of it.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It's about right. It's one of those things where it's
just like, yep, no, this is this. We're just putting
this there because we saw the NBA do it in
the middle in the middle of the season. Turns out great.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah. Can you imagine if the NBA, like they were like, Okay, guys,
we're gonna start our n season tournament, but we're gonna
start in the All Star Game, and each each team
is gonna have one representative and depending on who wins
and who loses, that's that that's gonna design their team
in this tournament.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, it's so dumb, So let's move. We wanted
some actual interesting news here. This I don't think came
as a shock in the sense that we, you know,
didn't know this was a possibility. I think we all
knew it was a strong possibility, but the timing of
it is interesting. Daniel Suarez, it was announced by both

(31:17):
him and track House that they've come to a mutual
decision to no longer continue their partnership after the twenty
twenty five season. That means that Suarez will be out
of the ninety nine. You remember a couple of months
back when people just like, you know, took his ball
and went home. At the time, people were speculating that
probably is because Suarez is going to be kicked out

(31:40):
of the car, and looks like that all kind of
came to fruition there.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, sure one began another, but at the same time,
it's not like I mean, Suarez lit up the world
a little bit when he first started there. Yeah, and
then once Ross Chesstin kind of found his footing, you know,
Suarez kind of got lost in the shovel there. Yeah,
which is odd to say because he does run decent.
I mean, he is always in that contender ship for

(32:06):
a playoff spot and everything like that. But you get
that and then you get the new shiny toy in
Van Ginsbergen and you know, it just kind of just
shoved away and now you got to find something else.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, And you know, let's talk about that for a second,
because Suarez definitely had the best years of his NASCAR
career so far at Trackhouse for sure, absolutely fifth seasons.
In his fifth season right now, he won two races.
One of them was last year, and then two years
before that, so what twenty two and twenty four, So
both those years he was in the playoffs. In twenty

(32:40):
two he finished tenth. He finished twelfth last year. So
he made it pass the first cut in his first
time in the playoffs, did not make it past. Wait, no,
he doesn't the past first cut in both.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, so he got bumped out in the second round
of both. And this is the interesting thing about Daniel
Suarez is that he he definitely has marketability and marketability
that I'm not quite sure even track House fully leveraged.
Certainly Joe Gibbs Racing and Tony Stewart or Stuart Hass

(33:12):
did not. He's got a great story surrounding him, having,
you know, come up through the ranks in Mexico, came
to the xfend of the series, won a championship, and
then he fizzled out right away. At Joe Gibbs didn't
really get an opportunity at Stuart Haas went all the

(33:32):
way back to was that terrible team he was at.
It wasn't Gaunt Brothers, it was something else, but it
was ninety nine ninety nine then too. Then Got swooped
up by track house and really kind of hit his stride,
so he didn't It wasn't like he was handed stuff necessarily.
I mean initially he was, and then when it didn't
work out, he had to prove that he could drive

(33:54):
the car, and then he did. And he's not great,
he's not bad. When he doesn't win a race, he's
usually right outside the top sixteen, can't quite make it
in on points. But he's certainly still better than a
good fifteen drivers ten ten, ten to fifteen drivers in
the sport. And so so you would think that that

(34:17):
would be enough to keep him a track house. And
if not, I don't know where he goes. I mean,
does he go to Legacy, does he go to Spier?
There aren't too many seats that are open. No.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And by the way, Got Brothers was a nice six
car back in then.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Well, yeah, I can't remember. He drove for some really
bad team.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, yeah, it was a pandemic time too, so it
was even worse. Yeah, but yeah, I mean he is
a talented driver if he has the right stuff and
he gets the right support. I mean we saw that
at Joe Gibbs. He got two did he get two
years or just one?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Two years at Gibbs and like it?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Then something again, new and shiny comes through and he
gets pushed and then yeah, that Stuart Hast thing was
just a disaster. But he is better. But the thing is,
if he goes to a place that to be a
better driver, will that team have the equipment to help
him too?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
True? And that's the thing is, I don't think there's
really a team that he can move up to from here.
He's probably going to move down and that's going to
make it a struggle.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah for sure. I mean they can basically just go
ahead and hope for the best in terms of you know,
road course races, which is kind of you know, rough
but at the same time as what it is. And
you look, you look, I'm just looking at the team
charts and everything like that. Not a lot of not
a lot of people opening seats. I mean the number

(35:39):
ten Callague.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I was just about to say, if I were calig
I will go out and get him, I mean, because
ty Dylan did.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Seriously, Yeah, Calliague in the ten and sixteen or whatever.
But everyone else is pretty pretty locked up by and
large for the long haul. I mean, there's not a
lot of contracts that are actually going to be available,
So what do you like? Who you even go to?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
And from a strategic standpoint, for calig Right, they've got
the ten, they've got the sixteen. Aj Allmendinger is coming back.
We know that he's coming back next year, and he
is like his best chance is to win at the
road course. And we know that Daniel Suarez good at
road courses. He's got one min at Sonoma. The other
one I think was Atlanta, which drafting race. So take

(36:23):
of that, which you will, and then what you do
is you just focus that entire two car program on
nothing but road courses. We're putting all our eggs in
this basket. We've got two guys who have won previously
at a road course in NASCAR, so we're just throw
everything at it and try to make the playoffs that way.
I think that wouldn't be a bad strategy.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
No, why not? I Mean it's the same thing Front
Road does Yeah, Yeah, they have like seven races a
year they go after. It's the super speedways and it's
the road courses, and they have the drivers to do that,
so why not, like, why not make it a specialty thing?
And if you pull out a top fifteen every now
and again in the intermediate track or a bigger track,

(37:02):
why not. I mean, that's that's that's just you know,
playing with house money. But again, there's not that much
pressure in Calleague. For all their you know, for all
the times that they can't win, they do produce pretty
decent cars, and I think they do have the support
behind them from the because they're Chevy. So why not.
I'm sure Chevy wants to keep Daniel Suarez in the fold,

(37:24):
so why not why not push that team? And you know,
Ty Dylan, I mean sure he won his first round matchup.
That's because Denny Hamlin. Uh just tried to push John
Hunter newitcheck out of the way and didn't work.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, And uh then I guess there was some talk
that maybe he will go back to the Xfinity Series,
maybe run for Dale Junior, and then Dale Junior could
bring you know, we'll find a place to bring Condor
Zella chup, not that he would own the team or
anything like that, so I guess maybe they're options like that.
I mean, it is very strange that they make this

(37:57):
announcement just a couple of weeks after, like Suarez made
all the headlines by winning the X race in Mexico City.
At least they didn't announce it before then, because that
would have looked really bad.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh, that would have been just a dull terribleness.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Especially with as much as NASCAR was leaning on him
to like promote that race, and then he goes out
there and wins.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Sell Man, Oh, yeah, not being great.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
So I don't know, I don't know where he's gonna go.
I do think that he'll land in either the Cup
or the X Series because there's just too many upsides
there for a potential team owner in terms of attracting sponsors.
Then there are four a decent number of drivers that

(38:39):
are full time in the series right now.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, I mean, he has a better bet, and you know,
he does have wins and does have the pedigree of
being with some good teams that you can bring that
knowledge along with them too, So I mean, you know,
sky is the limit for this guy. If he goes
back to X. I mean, you know, it's really a
hard way to get back to the top too, even
if you are with a JR. Motorsports car. But at

(39:04):
the same time, it's a ride, and you'll get sponsorship
and you'll get support, and you'll have an owner who
knows the sport well. So I think that helps too.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And this is the downside of the prevalence of paying
for a ride in NASCAR, because statistically there are I mean,
there are any number of drivers. I mean, it should
should Daniel Squarrez not get a ride in the Cup
Series next year because Cody Ware exists, No, he should

(39:32):
be able to get a ride. I mean, Cody Ware
shouldn't be bumping from from ARide. Cole Custer shouldn't be
bumping him from a ride. Riley Herbs is a developed
still building. We don't know what the story is with
him yet. Ty Dillon should not be bumping him from
a ride. Justin Haley at this point should not be
bumping him from a ride. Todd Gillilan shouldn't be bumping
him from a ride. But those guys all are because
they're just bringing money to the table. They're bringing sponsors

(39:55):
to the table.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, and I mean that's a and I mean it's
not like it's not like Swarez couldn't do that either.
I mean, I mean he's done that before and then sure,
you know it is of his native heritage. But at
the same time, NASCAR is looking in to get into
the Mexican market, so that helps a lot too. I mean,
you know, you say a lot of things, but if
you have someone of that persuasion in your racing series,

(40:18):
it's easier to market that racing series to those fans
and saying, hey, for this, you know, this is what
we can bring. We can you know a lot of
talented drivers develop in Mexico and into Central America, So
why not come and see it and invest money into it,
and companies invest your money into it because we can
help develop grassroots drive. And NASCAR does have a Mexico

(40:38):
series too, so to inject into that too. So to
have him is in the Cup Series regardless of the
team is always a good thing. But you always like
to have the performance too. And I think you know,
if we settle on it, Cali gets the best shot
if you put him in that ten again, although it
wasn't necessarily the best form the first time around, because
he was in a ten.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Right, Yeah, in that the car he was in, No,
they changed the number on that. I think it was
a I think it was in the forty one. I
think they changed the number. I think that was the
car he got into, was the ten, but they changed
it to the forty one at that.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah. But even so, Yeah, I mean I think that
he's the best bet for calig to get enough. You
have two good road course drivers and you have three
four road courses a year, exactly. That's good. That's good.
Good as that as any honestly, the one and six chances, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Doubling your chances. Yeah, you know. And what you mentioned
the moment ago is something else said. I don't know
if NASCAR is involved in this or not, but I
doubt seriously that they are. And the next story that
we'll talk about to kount of reinforce that. But in
other series where they're more organized and they're doing a
better job of having a good marketing focus. Even though

(41:48):
the sanctioning body doesn't franchise out to the teams or
anything like a league, they still have a vested interest
in what the grid looks like and what the starting
lineup looks like, and what the lineup looks like. And
so in another series like Formula one or someplace else
like the actual series, management might get involved in a
situation like this and try to help Daniel Sarez find

(42:11):
a suitable spot for that exact reason that you said,
because they just had to race in Mexico and it
went really well, and they want to expand on that.
You gotta have the driver, I mean, use the driver.
Why would you let him go? And so it's like,
benefits the sport for Daniel Suarez to remain in it
next year. And I don't even think that NASCAR thinks

(42:32):
about it that way, let alone interferes when it comes to,
you know, making deals between drivers and teams and stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
No, I would say that's too much foresight.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I know exactly. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I don't react until everyone passes them over and she's like, hey, guys,
what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah? So, and along those lines, the NASCAR commissioner. The
commissioner were like everybody else, but we're also not like
everybody else. Steve Phelps was on CNBC. Now I have
not seen this interview, but boy do I want to
see it because they were asking him about his new

(43:06):
role as commissioner, and he was like, well, listen, we're
not like the stick and Ball Sports, so it's not
exactly the same thing. But my job is to bring
everybody together and to try to function like a league. Now,
remember that's exactly the type of setup the twenty three
eleven and front Remoter Sports are trying to get into place.

(43:28):
They're trying to have like a franchise system with collective
bargaining and be like a league. And then Steve Phelps
goes out of his way to say, no, we're not
a league, We're not structured like them, but we want
to operate that way. And you can't have it both ways, man.
I mean, he's definitely talking out of both sides of his.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Face well, and he doesn't understand what commissionership this No,
not at all. Who does the commissioner answer to? I
mean the owners exactly. He's not answering the owner, no,
not at all. He's answering to the rest of the
board exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
He's just answering to like the France family, and that's
it exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
So it's just like, I want to have everything that
stick and Ball Sports have instead of franchise like that, well, cool,
they've been trying that, and he shut him down exactly
like they're trying to do it like a player's union
or driver's union gimmick, and you're just like, no, well,
we can't have that revenue sharing any kind of revenue
come along, Get out of here with that, yeah, record profits.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Then he did some like bullshit avoiding the question when
the twenty three eleven FRM thing came up, and was like, oh,
we're so disappointed. We're not a monopoly. They think we're monopolistic,
but we're not. That's part I want to see, because
I want to see if he was really squirming as
much as the transcript makes it feel like he's squirming.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, But I mean, also, who knows what he can
can and can't say to help their case. It is
still it is.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Still yeah in the courts. But probably the most interesting
part outside of the lawsuit thing is that they said
that there were several or he said that there were
several cities that had contacted NASCAR. They've been talks with
on one level or another about a future street race.
He was asked directly about San Diego and he said, well,

(45:08):
you know we don't have anything with anybody yet. And
they were like, well, so it's not a no or
so it's not a yes, but it's also not a no.
And he said, yeah, it's it's not a yes, but
it's also not a no. So he was heavily suggesting
that San Diego might be a possibility, which would be
so weird, just like we talked about the first time
this came up.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, very much so. But but I mean, you get
a guy who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Like,
let's be honest, Like the whole interview reads as if
it's just like he's just there. They put him in
a suit until make NASCAR good, you know, drivers, Eh,
not so bad, you know. But I mean, just don't
worry about marketing, don't worry about ratings. We're doing great.

(45:48):
Just remember what Blainey said, is doing great.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
We're killing him.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Man, We're gonna put We're gonna get that big mission accomplished,
bare to put behind you and then away we go.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Oh my gosh, that's what I have to watch it
for you to see if they have a mission accomplished
man or a wonderful thing. So yeah, so who knows
where that's gonna gonna go with the street course thing.
I you know, I don't know. We already talked about
it before, so I guess we'll wait until they make
some sort of official announcement talk about it again. That's all

(46:20):
I have on my list outside of sponsor news. I
don't know if you've got anything.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Else looking ahead here, just looking at the stuff that
they had they drive they drove in a new track
for the truck series and go over, well, well that's right, yeah,
I forgot yeah, and that going for him. Just you know,
if there's anything else here, uh to go persones this

(46:48):
weekend packrass on it, baby, yep. So uh persons for
Chicago Weekend all payouts, all position contingency awards and contributions
for the year and fun blah blah blah blah blah
infinity one point six million dollars.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
For the entire effing field one point six y five one.
That's crazy, dude.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
With that, what do you think the Cup payout is?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I mean probably like.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Ten ten million, a little bit less, a little bit more,
actually eleven point seven million.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
That's crazy that you're telling one tenth of the money
for the X end of the series.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, one tenth.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
How are they supposed to compete?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Well, I mean they're the same thing. It's finem the
the everyone's hyping up the speedway series. It's happening between
the Braves and the reds eweight Classic, happening in August.
They're prepping Bristol as they speak. So Mikey Waltrip and
Rickey Stent has Unior been doing the rounds everywhere else.

(47:55):
Don't know why that pairing got combined for those speedway classes,
but we'll go. Yeah. Steve Newmark, you might remember him
as to team president from RFK. He will be joining
the University of North Carolina Athletics department as the executive
Associate Athletic director. Really, and he will be getting in

(48:18):
He is the boss of Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
So wait, wait, wait, wait, what was his first thing?
I can't remember his first name.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
His last name is Newmark.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, that's what I thought. How old is Steve Newmark.
Let's see if I can find out he's a native
of Chapel Hill is Oh okay, I guess so. My
computers does not want to tell me. I didn't even
know if there would be a place to find that out.
Because I mean we're not talking about somebody who, like,

(48:48):
you know, is big enough like person that you know
they would have that there. But does that mean so
I'm just trying to do the math. He's probably a
good twenty years younger. Then then Bill Belichick, where did
they get him his girlfriend? Then? Like, where did they
get that from? Start trolling the middle schools or how
does that work?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Well? It is North Carolina, is right.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Maybe that's why Bill Belichick took that job because in
North Carolina they're like, oh, you know, that's fine. I mean,
we don't care if you met her when when she
was fifteen. It's good. It's cool. It's cool, dude.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
It's all good here, brother. I mean it's gonna be
a great town. He's with RFQ Racing for fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Okay uh and I worked extensively at a law firm
previous to that with ties to the SEC Conference, USA
and the rest of the NC.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
See, well that's where that's all coming from, the where
the past experience is from.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah. So I mean they're just like, hey, what can
you do? I mean it's one of those gimmicks where
it's just like, oh, awesome. While we're losing him to this. Yeah,
it doesn't tell his age at all. My god. Interesting, Yeah,
just the man of no age.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, it was all. It was all just to make
a joke about him having to like find like some
girl who just graduated high school or something like that.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Absolutely good bit. There Where else we got going on here?
Indy car schedule, Chicago schedule, a lot of Danny Suarez
stuff they were talking about. There seems to be a
boot it in all honesty.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Well let's move on then, because it is sponsor time
a couple to mention something called work Money. Work Money
is going to be on the number forty three Eric
Jones car this weekend at Chicago. The weird part about
this release is they said that they're going to be
on the car, but they didn't see if they're going
to be primary or not. So I guess we could

(50:48):
look at the entry list and it would tell us
if Work Money is the car for the forty three.
My guess is, if they didn't say it, it probably isn't.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Well, they're probably not also updating the thing after they
put it out on Monday.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
They may not be where is like.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
It's going to be right by the the exhaust.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, So that's not a real thing.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
For me, is a real thing. It's just not a
real it's.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Just not a good sponsor. Yeah. For Mere Midwest will
be on the number thirty eight car of Zane Smith
this weekend at Chicago.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
That is full primary sponsorship.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
That is, yeah, in partnership with all of their other sponsors.
On the twenty car. Both Craftsmen and the Children's Miracle
Network is going to be on that Christopher Bell car
at Chicago. That's pretty cool for them. Something called pure Kick.
Pure Kick is going to be on the sixty six

(51:48):
car with Josh Blicky this weekend. I think they make
like an energy drink or something.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah. And then Big Spizz I'm sorry what Big Spizz
It's gonna be on the sixteen car with Ah Elmendinger.
Not this week a Chicago, but in a couple of
weeks down the road. It's so Noma apparently some sort
of alcoholic beverage. I guess I don't.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Know, Okay, I I was gonna say I had a
Big Spiz when I was going left.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Exact that's what it sounds like. Like.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
What is that awful.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Oh my gosh, and I thought I thought, I thought,
they're Oh, no, I know what it was going to
talk about. Well, wait until we get the paint schemes
for that.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
By the way, the Chris with the Chris Bell scheme
worked for Chase Elliott last week, so word this.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Week it did. Yep, they've got the designed by the
kids on there, so definitely worked for for the number
nine car.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Well, hell, let's go to us, go to the scheme
or wait, yeah schemers.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, let's go to the only good thing on DASCAR
dot com, which safe subsequently ruined. Then they made all
right again the pain scheme preview. How many cars are
in this race?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
By the way, forty one somebody is going home for
the first Now I'm in Texas of twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Somebody's going home, and I think I can tell you
who's going home.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Well, I got an idea who's going home too.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Because Catherine leg is back in the seventy at corver
Lip Fast Motor Sports. She does she does have like
a little bit of competition because Corey Haims showing up
for twenty three eleven, by the.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Way, showing up all year for twenty three eleven.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Then Josh blicky So yeah, yeah, it could.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Be down to blicky Leg. Let's not. Let's be honest,
it could be.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I think everyone else makes it. I think Austin Hill
makes I think Will Brown makes it. Corey Hin has
been that's right, pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Well Brown in here. So but Brown's got some He's
got some time, he's yeah, he's got some experience in
place like this. Austin Hill is is just a good driver,
even though he is perpetually stuck not in the Cup series. Um,
but yeah, yeah, I think that leg is probably I
think they probably should have picked a different race, is
what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You know, you know you're not entirely wrong, Yeah at all.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
So let's do the pain schein preview six nine. Nice
it seems to pick from here. Can you find three
in there that you generally enjoy?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Uh? Yeah, I can find three. I actually had more
and then I lost it, but now I'm back again, dude.
I mean, I hate to keep picking them because I
think I've picked them this year. I haven't all right.
Number fifty one Arbus Angus Arby's Angus cheese steak.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I mean it's got a giant cheese steak on the side.
How can you not love it?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, fantastic And I spelled cheese steak I think completely wrong,
but we'll go with it. Uh So, the the the
Big Angus beef looking good. There a lot of of course, red,
white and blue cars for the season. Ye gimme, gimme
something that's got a little blue in it. But it's
got a little funk in it. And you want to
get that funk Away You mean that number four of

(54:55):
Parker Retz laugh and the and the X series with
the funk away beads.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Oh, yeah, that one is fun. That's a cool.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, I mean number number four funk Away beans. That
is a great name too, it is why why wouldn't
you go for that? And then final almah, where do
I go? Where do I go? Again? Line of us
say stuff I want to stay from. Oh that one's
a good one, you know what? Yeah, give me the
kaz Girala overplay games because there's a leaping cat there,

(55:24):
perfect timing number twenty four.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yes, because I love that the purple and then the
cat and it was like, I feel like we talked
about overplay when they announced this, and so I went
to look it up, and yes it was on Shark Tank,
and yes, what's his name, Mark Cuban invested in it,
and as far as I can tell, they've done nothing

(55:50):
with it ever since.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
That's right, we did talk about.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
That, Yeah, like nothing has been done. Because I was like,
I want to see if this actually works. You're supposed
to like be able to upload a video and make
a game out of it type of thing, and it
sounds like describing it like that, it sounds like super cool,
Like how would this even work? Well, I figured it out.
I did a little research today and I figured it
out from the five videos that they have up. And
I was trying to look for like a real world example,

(56:15):
like a real person that did like some sort of
video review. I couldn't couldn't find it. And so like,
let's say that that that you make a video, and
this is the example they had. They had somebody taking
a video of two people like doing like, you know,
a cheesy dance to a song or something like that.
They uploaded it. Then you go into the interface and

(56:37):
you put little arrows on the screen for each of
the movements, like when they move like their arms up
and move their arms of the side or whatever. And
then as you play the game quote unquote, you basically
play back the video and the little arrow tells you
to swipe left, swipe right, swipe up, swipe down, and
that's how you score points. And that's it. You're just
watching the video. It's not a game. You're just like
trying to swipe along with the directions they're moving in

(56:59):
the video.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
So it's dance Dance Revolution.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
But for your finger. Yeah, just dances Revolution for your finger, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
And and so then there was another one they should
wear like somebody like had the GoPro on the front
of their on the front of their mountain bike and
they're going down like a mountain bike trail. And then
on that one, use the the the sensor inside the
phone as you turn it like you turn the phone

(57:23):
left and right, like as the person's turning left and right.
You get points for getting it right. But if you
get it wrong, you still watch the rest of the video.
He still rides down the course. It's not like he
recks or anything like that, because it's.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
A real video. He has two runs. He does this
good run first obviously exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
That the ambulance shows up at everything.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
This just proves that there really shouldn't be any billionaires
in this country. Idea of money? What are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
After watching those and and remember these were the examples
from the manufacturer, from the company, and so they're gonna
be the best ones. They're gonna be the best examples.
And so when I saw that, I was like, dude,
how could anybody in their right mind look at this
and think everybody's gonna want to do this? I will
invest in your company?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
You know why people who have brain rot nowadays?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I guess why.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I mean, look, I could look at what we're in now, brother, I.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Could think of no practical application for that. I couldn't
think of any way that an influencer could use that
that people would actually be like, oh, yeah, I want
to play their game. Where because they watch influencer watch
the video, they don't want to like swipe their finger
along with the video. That's nothing like and for what,
it's not a game. It's just like, oh, yeah, you
moved your finger around so you get some points them what.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You think this is a game? You think this is
an F and game. And then in the DMX, but
it is a nice car it's got a cool cat.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
It's got a little cat jump, and so I like
the cat.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
So there we go. Yeah, all right, what do you
got out of this? Says six?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Wouldn't that just two? Or did you do three?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I did three?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Oh you did three? Okay?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
It with the RBS it was the funk Away it
was sorry.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Right, Well, I will start in the X series myself.
I'm gonna go down a couple of cars from you
and pick Brandon Pole and the number forty four Toxic
Waste Chevrolet.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
And that was another one that I was looking at too.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It's it combines like getting slimed from Nickelodeon with with
the Mikey Waltrup caution tape.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Car, the Yeah Nation's Rink car.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
So it's also it's a sour it's a tour candy.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yeah, it's actually that's what it is, is sour candy.
And I like sour candies anyway, So that one definitely,
And then I guess I'll jump up to the Cup
Series and pick a couple there. You pick the best
one with the steak on the side that was really good.
I will go with Oh, I gotta do the Gorilla's
Hot pickle car.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I saw that they did an activation.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Oh no, is it bad.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
You're riding a pickle. Really, you're riding a pickle.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I love it. That's even better. But it's got the
it's got the green, the flames, has got the Grill's
pickle guy just chilling in a in a like a
beach chair. Somebody wrote hot pickle car on the side
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
But I gotta find this riding the pickle.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah, I'll search for it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
You get No, you have to see their Instagram feed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
That's great. Oh no, that's so awesome. I don't know.
I don't know if it's recent or not, but it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
So so someone on the Twitter, because Jeff Bluck was
the one who first put it out, was around Chicago.
Somebody quote treating and then said Grilla's Grillo Pickles market strategy,
my pickup lines in college, and then the handshake emoji
and then with the quote free pickle rides.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
So man, that is so epic. They definitely get the
call for me this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Week and you get the big win on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Oh man, I love it. And then I got to
pick another one. I will go with uh man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
For the fourth of July, I will pick one of
the Red, White, and Blue schemes. Give me the number
ninety nine Daniel Suarez jockey car only because they got
like a shiny type of thing going on with a ribbon,
and then I just feel bad for Danny, So yeah,
I feel bad that they're firing him, so I want

(01:01:42):
to pick him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
So there we go. We gotta we gotta make some picks.
Speaking up picking. Wow. Okay, so last week I had
somebody who wrecked.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I believe you had Uh. No, you had mister Chris Mooscher.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Oh I did have Buscher. But did he not wreck?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
No? He finished top he finished top ten, he finished ninth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Oh, so I won.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I guess I picked Chase Elliott.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Oh you did pick Chase Eliot, didn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I thought you picked Brad KISELASKI and I picked Butcher
or something?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
No, No, I picked cha.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Well, but what was the side bet we had one
of the we have what's his name?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I bet was Corey Lajoy. Yeah, you picked twenty eighth.
I picked thirty fifth, you finished thirty ninth. I picked one. Uh.
Boom boom, boom boo of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Baby oh man, so uh so, I guess I get
the entire field to pick from for the uh for
the Chicago street course. I'm tempted. I'm heavily, heavily tempted
to go right back to the SVG till because he
did so well for me in Mexico City. But these

(01:02:54):
guys have had a chance to see, you know, what's
going on here. This is our third year back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Mm hmm man. What do I do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
What do I do?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
What do I do? It's not an easy one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
It is not an easy one because you know, because
they have seen it before. I'm gonna go all right,
I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Okay, I'm
gonna go contrarian because normally I would normally I would
pick him at Sonoma and then he'll make a like
a really shitty pick call, and then I'll just ruin
his race. Sure give me the dinger in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I was not standing. He's going he's doing dinger, an't he?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So? So we're gonna we're gonna flip it around. I
don't expect him to do well here. I always expect
him to do well at Sosnoma. He always botches Sonoma,
So I'm gonna say, yeah, he'll continue to watch so Nooma.
But here he'll surprise us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I'm gonna go a desperate times call for desperate matters.
You want to get desperate? What do you think I
will my son? This is close? Oh close? Not really
not actually not close at all. Last year's winner. Give

(01:04:09):
me out boom and Hunt, get there, Gilbert Bowman, he
needs he needs a win. He got he got to
see some pound puppies. Yeah, he's doing a great chot
for himself. So give me out booming on this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Okay, all right, so we'll do Bowman now for a
side bet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
This is a hard I have a suggestion.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Nothing to do with the Cup Rais, Okay, I think
it was four years ago? Four years ago Face Off
Hockey Show sponsored Ryan Ellis. That's right, yes, at Road America.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Uh he had break issues and finished in the thirties.
No uh, he's back in Chicago with a whole new team.
It's ready to go. Where do you think Ryan Ellis?
And the number seventy one? Number seven who's sponsored this week?
The number seventy one? Uh, Sweetwater Instruction Chevrolet with Mario
Goslin on the pit boxes. Man is okay for some reason,

(01:05:07):
his team, it's DGM racing across the ex gym. I
don't know who Jim is, God bless him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Wait, no, it's Jim. You just gotta have gym up
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
It's Jim. It's all capitalized, so he must be like a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I know what it is. Jessea Wuji Motorsports.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Oh is it? Oh? Good?

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Shout out Jessea Wuji.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Shout out Jesse o Wugi. So right, Ryan Ellis, Jesse Wugi.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Let's go okay Northern Virginia baby wow, okay? Oh? Man
Ellis has had a very up and down year. Looking
at his stats right now, he was eighth and Charlotte
has a couple of top twenty. Basically the rest of
his races are split between like twenty second and higher
and then twenty seventh in the lower. Oh. So, he

(01:05:53):
did not run well in Mexico City at all? He did?
He did okay at Coda, give me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Did you run here? Last year? At the Chicago Street
Race he did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
He was twenty first. That's twenty first there, give me.
I was actually about to say twenty first, because's where
we finished Atlanta. Give me twenty third.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Okay, good, good limitary.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Third boy, how that would be right about in the
middle of Like if if you statistically broke down, his
medium finished will probably.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Be around that's a really good pick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Too, not as not his average, but his medium will
probably be around twenty three or.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go twenty eight. Okay,
no no other reason, just I think that that's gives
us a five point gap. So anything twenty five and
above you win. Anything twenty six or below.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Okay, okay, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I like that over under yeah, so thedy you go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
All right, So just to recap, and it's easier we
do an Exfinity one because you know, anybody would pick
in the Cup Series race, we'd have to hope that
they actually make the race. So which which, by the way,
just as an unofficial, not real side bet, do just
Catherine like make the race or not? God no, yeah,
I don't think she does either. So when it comes

(01:07:15):
to Ryan Ellis in the Chicago Street Course race in
the next series, you've got him. What did you say?
You have eighteenth eight? Oh, you have him twenty eighth,
Sorry you have him twenty eighth, I have and twenty third.
And then in the race itself, I'm going with the Dinger,
a Jelmen Dinger, and the wise Man is going with
Alex Bowman. If you want to find out who wins
the race, who wins the bet, who wins the side bet,
and whether it was any good because July fourth weekend

(01:07:37):
you may or may not even be in town, let
alone watching. Come back next week. We will tell you
about the race, what happened, and whether not only the
race was good, but the coverage was good. And then
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(01:08:00):
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Right about now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
In the Draft Show dot com, we got little pictures
a little damn it. Yeah it's it's a picture of
bell and hose of r and Larsen. Yeah, so you
got that in the Draft Show dot com. If somehow
you're still on social media, I don't know why at
in the draft show on all the social media platforms
you can think of, blue Sky, Facebook, Instagram, maybe Twitter,

(01:08:26):
But why would you still be there?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
No, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
So that's it. That's all for Wilson. I want to
carry yourself and someone else has been in the draft
with Wilson. It was a little history lesson for you
on this July fourth. Hey, by the way, we are
closer to the year twenty fifty than we are the
year two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
But don't even say that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Let it just oh no, oh no. The nine thirty
three AD your Rige of Ausburg is canonized as a saint. Okay,
Youurge of Allsburg, who was prince Bishop of Allsburg in
the Holy Roman Empire. First eight Oh, go ahead, I said,

(01:09:08):
he's the first thing to be canonized, canonized not by
local authority but by a pope.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Oh oh wow. Okay, Now when they do that, does
that mean that they put him in a cannon and
you shoot him out of the cannon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Or why do you think Ringingham Brothers doesn't?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Okay, all right, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah. Ten fifty four a supernova called s N ten
fifty four is seen by Chinese song dynasty Arab and
possibly Amridian observers near the star is Zeta Turi. For
several months, it remains bright enough to be seen during
the day. Its remnants formed the crab Nebula.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Wow. Was there any Champagne involved?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Uh? Nope, not at all, unfortunately, right, well, because you know,
if you're in the champagne room, nothing can happen there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Christian the Third elect the King of Denmark and Norway
in the town of Rye this day in fifteen thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Good bread right from there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Yeah, it's okay. The city of Tuil Rivere is founded
in New French, France, which is now Quebec this day
in sixteen thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Was that like French for the city of Paul Revere?
Is that what you were saying?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Tuil Rivere? Three rivers? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Okay, Oh gotcha, Okay, got it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
That's why in Pittsburgh they played the Tuil Rivera stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Many a year seventeen seventy six, the stupidest thing ever happened,
and there was independence of the United States, making US
three thinkers and man. Look at where that got us.
Eighteen oh three, the Louisiana purchase is finally announced to
the American people. News finally got to him. It took
a year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Really, Oh my gosh, it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
I don't know. In Rome, New York, instruction begins on
the Erie Canal this day. In eighteen seventeen. Nicem slavery
is abolished this day in the state of New York.
In eighteen twenty seven, there you go, grants to them.
The Iowa territory is purchased in eighteen thirty eight. On
this day, we bought some Iowa territory.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I did not know we purchased Iowa.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah, Iowa territory was like part of the most of
North Dakota, most of South Dakota, Coda, western part of Minnesota,
and then all of Iowa. Go figure, Yeah, Civil War crap. Oh.
Eighteen sixty two, Lewis Carroll tells Alice Lively story that
would grow into Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and sequels. In

(01:11:22):
eighteen sixty two.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Eighteen fifty five, the first edition of Walt Walt Whitman's
book of poems, Leaves the Grass was published in Brooklyn,
and I always say, leaves the grass my ass. The
CP the Canadian Pacific Railways first scheduled trained from Montreal
rhymes important moody on the Pacific coast after six days
of travel in eighteen eighty six.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Yuess they were grumpy, weren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Man, not a great time, that's how important. Yeah. William
Howard Taff becomes the American Governor of the Philippines in
nineteen oh one. Two years later, the Philippine American Wars
officially concluded. So I think it was his fault for
really being honest, probably, yeah, yeah. Woodrow Wilson addresses the
American Civil War veterans at the Great Reunion of nineteen thirteen.

(01:12:09):
Don't know how great it was. Nineteen fourteen the funeral
of Archduke Franz Ferdinand that started that whole World War.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Well that's not what started the band.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
No, well kind of. They did say take me out
and hold, and you did it full and the Philippines
that gained full and penns the United States after three
hundred and eighty one years of New York continuous colonial rule.
That day in nineteen forty six, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Like Philippine American like news on this particular day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, nineteen fifty Radio Free Europe first broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I said the ram song were actually the thing. Yes, okay,
there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I don't know you do. The math dog. The Freedom
Information Act is signed this day in nineteen sixty six
by Lyndon B. Johnson. Oh wow, okay, I got that
going for you. The Pathfinder NASA's Pathfinder, not the Nissan
time it lands on the surface of Mars to stay
in ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Man, I'll tell you, if Nissan could get one of
those pathfinders on Mars now, it will probably save the company.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Yeah. Probably. Two thousand and four, Greek Greece beats Portal
GwL in the euro twenty oh four final, becoming the
first becoming European champion for the first time in the
country's history.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Wow, okay, good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Yeah, so they got that going for him. That's not
a good one. That's not a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
The discovery of the particles consistent with Higgs Boson at
the large Handaron carlider Is announced it's Cerno, So the
god particle. Oh okay, right on, Yeah, so you got
that going for us. How about that figure. Happy heavenly
birthday to Shiga Yoshi Kara, a Japanese shogun, or this

(01:13:58):
day in thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Nice probably had a cool castle and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Probably did probably awesome as hell. Everybody, enjoy your Fourth
of July, don't you know, explode many of your fingers.
Just get that dial. Get it onto the dial so
you can watch the You can watch on TNT rather
than be exploded by TN exactly. So you guys have
a good one. We'll talk to you next week.

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