Blaney Wins Nashville, Hocevar vs. Stenhouse, and NASCAR Legal Drama

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark, George Wood fun smoking like hell now coming.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Down doing and welcome everyone to in the draft with
Wilson and was I'm Willson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile,
right across your internet from you at a beautiful studio
by the Bay. Version two points there it is when
mister Scottie was what's happening?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
There was man Sunday night races that aren't on a
that had followed a holiday Monday should be banned.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, no, I mean the uh and I'm sorry if
the computer just made a sound there. Yeah, no, the
Sunday night race. I don't get when it's not a
holiday weekend, you know, I mean, if there's a Monday
you have off, Okay, fine, but yeah, I don't really
understand was it's better for those of us on the
West coast because you know, we get to watch it
a little bit later, get some stuff done before we

(00:52):
start the race. But I don't see any point of
I don't know what time it ended on the East coast.
I'm trying to remember what time it ended on the
West coast. Yeah, exactly, so it's like super late. You know,
it doesn't make much sense.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Three hours five minutes around ten thirty, I think is
when I went to bed or close to that.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, kind of kind of worthless and is one of
those things where it's just like, I mean, the exciting
part was just everyone crashing in stage two in the
beginning of stage three, but other than that, it was
kind of just checked out racing almost.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, especially at the end there, like we had, you know,
a big long run with a green flag pit stop
cycle in the end. They were kind of hyping that
up that, oh, you know, maybe if if somebody's a
little lost schedule, we could see something like we saw
last weekend with the Ross Chastain comeback because he had
just a little bit fresher tires. The tires weren't making
that much of a difference anyway at this track. I mean,

(01:43):
Ryan Blaney got in position to be able to make
the move to win this race because he did two
tires stop anyway, and so the tires. It was really
funny because during the broadcast I remember them like making
a big deal about tires, saying how important tires are
going to be early on because of the concrete, and
then all of a sudden they just like backed off

(02:04):
of that because the two tires are working for people
and they're like, oh boy, we should probably let this go.
Even though everybody got four tires at the end, the
only real exciting part was the race for the what
ultimately was the win in stage two, and it was
really awesome. I mean that battle between Denny Hamlin, William
Byron and Ryan Blaney was fantastic, and the way that

(02:28):
Blainey made the pass was even more exciting. I mean,
he was doing everything he possibly could to try to
get by those two guys, and he eventually did. But
that was kind of a whole kit kaboodle, right, There
was a whole race. But I'm not complaining about that
because again, just like we saw last week, this race
proves that you don't have to have the bullshit caution

(02:49):
at the end. And I don't know that a bullshit
caution at the end would have changed the outcome of
this race.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
No, No, I don't think so. I think that the
best car won. Yeah, in the grand scheme of things,
I mean, even starting from the middle issue of the field,
you know, Ryan Blaney drove through the thing, drove well
again stage points, every stage, and he just had the
better car. I mean it is what it. I mean,
Denny Hamlin was hanging up there for a bit then
faded towards the end. But I mean when you look

(03:15):
at it in the Grand scheme, it was fine. I mean,
you didn't need a BS caution just to make things dramatic,
and you let things roll away. They roll because a
people wanted to get the hell out of there, Like
if this was a Sunday afternoon, yeah, you throw that
BS caution and let it go. But I think time
constraints Everyone's just like, all right, we got to go
home because there's a drive back and we gotta get

(03:37):
ready for going up to Michigan, so a lot of
travel upcoming. But I mean in the Grand scheme, I
think I think it was it was a decent race.
I mean, the strategy at the end and figured that
whole thing out. I mean after everyone got patient again,
after you know, people reckoning here, there and everywhere for
stage two and then all that, I mean it turned
to be a good race. And Amazon kind of the
cycle through everything. They made sure everyone knew the positions

(03:59):
and the spoting didn't mention that that that championship stuff
though they didn't mention that like.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
The N season tournament. I haven't seen anything anywhere about it,
even in NASCAR dot com. I haven't seen anything about it,
have you.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I saw something on their Instagram where they posted the
thirty two people that are in. Oh yeah, and that
was it, and okay, that was the scheme.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
So this is supposed to be a big deal, right,
it's supposed to be a big deal.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I mean, the whole idea when they you know,
when they announced it, it was this big deal. But
I'm looking at their at their home page right now.
They're front page right now, and I guess story about
Kyle Busch, and it looks like they've got Chris Boucher
up in there. I'm just asking if they can win.
I don't know. It's like a BS article, right, just
a spot filler. They've got some stuff about Nashville eighty

(04:50):
eight crew chief Lugnut, some highlights, rankings, stuff like that,
paint schemes, Michigan schedule, Michigan thing. Something about Carrie is
that Carrie Earnhardt. Do they have a story about Carry Earnhardt?
I don't know, man, do they which Earnhardt?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh, Jeffrey, It's just as bad with Jeffrey earn They
have Jeffrey Earnhardt story everybody. It's something about about Kevin
and Kielan Harle Harvick racing in late models together. There
is nothing nothing here. Okay, we have talked about a
couple of things, all right, there's nothing here about their
their N Season tournament that they were pimping so hard. Right, Oh,

(05:29):
finally you have to scroll three quarters of the way
down the page, and there is a little thing about
the N Season Challenge. T and T Sports announces broadcast
team for N Season Challenge. Wait, they have a separate
broadcast team just for that. Well, no, they probably, Yeah,
that was So that's an oracle from a long time ago.
How in their five races are Yeah, so that's what
they mean. Then how it works again? Old article? And

(05:53):
then there is finally here an article saying that the
field has been finalized. So we could talk about that
in a second. So that's almost at the bottom of
the page. Like, there's only one other thing below it,
and that's just a list of stories about the truck series, right,
and then the other thing is on this whole thing, right,
there is one little tiny picture about Carson Josovar. But

(06:16):
it's an editor's pick of host of R winning a
late model race in Berlin, which is of course in Germany.
And this is just from a couple of days ago
Tuesday night. He won this race, like after that Nashville race.
There is nothing about Ryan Blaney here at all. Let's

(06:38):
see here, there's no no, there's zero headlines. Just glance again,
make sure I'm not saying it wrong. I see zero
headlines here that mention Ryan Blaney, despite that great move
for the win. And there's nothing about Carson Josovar, who
finished second in this race. Am had that much talked
about run in with Ricky Senhouse Junior, most notably because

(07:00):
Ricky Stenthous Junior was a pissy little girl. Afterwards he
said he was gonna red Kosovar. But but why aren't
you leaning into that stuff?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
They are. It's in the editor's picks next to Nikkeeln
and Kevin Arvick thing.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh okay, one little thing.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, someone says nothing, there's one little tiny.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Guy, one tiny thing. Nothing about Ryan Blaney, one tiny
old thing about that. Instead, they're they're focused on Kyle Busch,
who was sucked this year and Chris Busher, who was
sucked this year.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
How many people do you think go to NASCAR dot
Com for their news coverage? Not many, so they can
get away with it.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
But still, this is their only opportunity to grab somebody, right,
And and like.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why are we looking back though, Wilson, I don't know. Look,
listen Oasis, who's starting their world tour here soon back together?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Like, yeah, that tour is gonna last three dates, three.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Dates that they have before they fight each other. They said,
don't look back in anger? So why should why should
anybody else remember that whole thing? That was actually somewhat dramatic.
But yeah, Ricky Stenhouse being a little dizzy pants, even
though he did have a little bit of a case.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Okay, yeah, let's talk about that real quick, because that
was one of the highlights of this race, although NASCAR
dot Com doesn't think so. That wholes of Ar is
behind the forty seven car, shoves his nose down into
the corner. First, Stenhouse goes to block, and yes, sten
House was blocking, and I'm gonna back you up what
you said here or what you were suggesting. Sten House

(08:33):
goes down the block. Hulesavar has a choice to make
at that point, because Stenhouse can't avoid the contact he's
already committed. Wholes of Ar is the only one that
can cut both these guys a break and make sure
they both stay in the race. Instead, he sticks to
his line, gets into the back corner of Stenhouse and
pushes him up the track and that's the end of

(08:54):
his day. Stenhouse all pissed off. I'm gonna wreck him whatever.
So this is to me, it's a classic example of
a couple of things. Number One, the veteran drivers getting
pissed off at the younger drivers right. Number two, the
younger drivers just being overly aggressive because they're young drivers
and they're gonna be overly aggressive and they're gonna make mistakes.

(09:14):
And you know what, Stenhouse did that crap, and Kyle
Busch did that, and Kyle Larson did stuff like that,
and obviously Ross Chastain did that. Last week after the race,
we were talking about how much Chastain has matured, and
I'm like, dude, it was only like six months ago
that everybody was saying that he was like the biggest
a hole on track. And I remember, I clearly remember

(09:39):
when they started to say the same thing about Kyle Busch,
and it wasn't true at the time. It's just he
had like two races where he raced cleanly and everybody's like, oh, oh,
he's really maturing. And then like four weeks after that,
he's like running in the back of a guy trying
to start a fight and stuff like that. And so
it's the same cycle over and over and over again.
And so that's the first thing that to take away

(09:59):
from that, or first and second thing I guess to
take away from that. And then the third thing is, dude, Ricky,
if you don't want to get run into by the
guy racing eighteenth, be better than seventeenth. Right, If you're
running midpack, you're gonna be around drivers who either aren't
as good or less experienced, and newsflash, you're one of

(10:20):
those drivers. So if you want to be around the
guy who is trying to make a pass, who's looking
at making a pass but is going to have the
experience and the talent to be able to avoid contact,
if you start to try to block them aggressively, then
be up in the top ten, because you know Blainey
and Elliott and the Hamlin are going to do that crap.

(10:41):
So that you know, whenever I see somebody who's midpack
or back of the pack get all pissed off about
somebody running into him, I'm like, dude, you can't be
that mad because you're running with the crappy drivers. That's
gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, exactly. I mean, you kind of make your bed,
you have to run through it. That said, I mean,
it's now become routine for host of Ur trying to
be Dale senior incarnate, reincarnated.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
But it was that way first for what's his name,
number one car uh Chasta. It was that way for Chasta,
and it was that way for trying to think who
right before him was the guy. But there's always a
guy like that.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, but I mean, but but again, like you said,
it was super early in the race. It did not
have to do that.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, he didn't. He could have cut him a break,
he could have.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
He could have been and you know, one hundred and
ten laps into a three or four hundred mile or
three hundred lap raise not a good, not a great look.
He did dive bomb in there, and and you know
they prayed to play a replay of die bombing again
prior to that. So it's just like it. It doesn't
does Carson host what does what does it take for
Carson jos of r to get respect because he's not

(11:49):
gonna get like honestly, he is going to be the
guy they target, right, And I don't think that's good
for anyone involved. No, because I mean you have to
sit him down, and I mean Steve Lettart was doing
his usual you know, slurp fest off I was of
bar and I mean, but at the same time, you
have to have him sit down, maybe Dale Junior sit

(12:10):
down with him and listen, we get it. You're trying
to be rambunctious. You're trying to start a f the
other the great cool, awesome. You are going to do
more harm to yourself and to your car than anybody
that anything you do to anybody else if you keep
acting this way, and I mean if for the longevity
of him in the sport, I think you have to

(12:31):
you have to go ahead and have that conversation with him,
because he can get away with this in a spire car.
But if if he wants to move up and move out,
like he can't, he can't be going down there and
bend and fenders for you know, for nothing. In the
grand scheme of thing.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
True, but if he keeps racing like he raced in Nashville,
then yeah, it might be that might turn off some owners,
but it's not going to turn him all off. I mean,
think about Kyle Busch. Ky Busch was the biggest a
hole in the world and Rick Kendrick got fed up
with it and what happened. He goes off and does

(13:08):
even more. You know, he's even better when he gets
the Gibbs Joe.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Gives likes winners, and he had to deal with dexter manly.
I think that.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Nothing exactly well, and that's what I'm thinking about host far, Like, yeah,
that might turn off like a Richard Childress because he's
running into Richard's cars or something like that, and Childress
is just weird about and he holds grudges and Hendrick
might not want the controversy, but somebody like Joe Gibbs
and be like fine, signed him up. Man, kids got talent.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah sure, but at the same time, like, it's not
gonna help for his career just because he changes teams
that people aren't going to try to run him over,
which I think owners would be like, Man, maybe that's
maybe gonna work on that too.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, it's it's a balancing act, like he's gonna learn
as he goes what to do and what not to do.
But at the same time, you know there it can
be double edged sword, right, because either he can learn
and he'll calm down, or if he doesn't learn but
he's fast, then you run into a situation like brid
Kiselowski right in that same exact situation, I guarantee you

(14:05):
Ricky said, Ouse Junior doesn't try to block aggressively in
brid Kiselowski because everybody knows Kes will run you over
mm and and he's been so specific about that, like
it's not like I'm gonna drive you dirty. I'm not
gonna just go up and run into you for no reason.
But if you come across my nose, you're gonna go
for a You're you're gonna go for a ride like
I'm not lifting. And he's been adamant about that his

(14:28):
entire career. And so if you're fast and you set
those hard boundaries and say this is how I'm gonna
raise you, then it does make a difference in a
situation like this, like like Ricky doesn't force that that issue.
He forced the issue because it was a rookie. It
was Carson Josovar, and he knows he figured he could
probably bully the kid and get the spot for however long.

(14:49):
I mean, in the end, we know that Jozavar was
way faster. So again that's a double edged short because
Ricky like forced the issue because of who was behind him.
But at the same time, wholes of Ar was way faster,
and so like you said, he could have cut Stenhouse
a break very easily and still gotten by him.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, exactly, like you can go ahead and go buy
Ricky Stenhouse and give him that position and then overtake
him in the next turn or two. Now, it's not
a big deal overall for him to do that. I mean,
he he maybe he wants to prove himself, or maybe
he thinks he's he's for some reason just just deserve
that spot. It's just like now, it's like you have

(15:29):
to be smarter about things. And I mean, even even
with the Ross Chesting thing, I mean, at least hosto
Ar is not really doing an apology act like Chestain
used to do. Right, But at the same time, I
also don't think Ross Chesting is that youngman driver I
think he didn't. You know, he's just a guy who
did what he did and he's just like, oh, I
didn't know how to play the game, and now he's
starting to play the game.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, and that is a big difference. So Uosavar is
a lot younger than Chestain was when he started the
Cup series, for sure.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, But when it comes to Stenhouse dumping Kosovar, you know,
I don't know that it's really gonna happen. I think
it was just kind of mouthing off. And if it
does happen, then, like you said, nobody wins in that situation.
Because right now, if you're Ricky Stenhouse Junior, like you're
a space filler anyway at this point, and so if

(16:17):
you make your mission I'm gonna go out there and
I'm gonna find Carson Josovar and I'm gonna try to
wreck him, then that means that that's the purpose of
your entire race, and you're reinforcing the fact that you're
a space filler. You really have no point in this
race except for trying to run into Carson jos of Var,
and so it's gonna make him look bad. Plus, is
that still a one car team. See yeah, yeah, and

(16:38):
so like you risk by running into host of are
you were ruining your entire team's race, you know, because
if you've f up your own car in the process,
then what good have you done for yourself and your team,
especially for a driver like Stenhouse, who is right on
the edge of that bubble right now of being inside
the playoff cutoff line on points. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
But at the same time, you also they're just like, well,
why is he Why is this this young bastard hitting us? Anyway,
So maybe the Hyak team might be into that, who knows,
But I think I think, I think it might be
just all talk. But at the same time, Ricky Stenhouse
Junior is always a wild card. You never know what
the hell is going on with those blind eyes or
those just those thousand yards staire eyes regardless.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, seventeen seventy six man.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, man, he does. He is patriotic. I'm sure he's
hating what's happening on Twitter name. But and daddy are
fighting online.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Exact two dads. But but the flip side of this,
right is it? Cars and holes ofvar finished second in
a spire car.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Dude, Dude, he's driving well I don't know why everyone's
surprised anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, yeah, he yes, age.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Points and everything.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's it's almost like it's almost like he heard the
internet like like sigh. When in the first Amazon race,
they were like so up on his jock and he
was like, I better do something about this because I'm
going to look like an a hole if they're like
all about me and I finished thirty seventh.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Every race, right, I mean, let's be honest. He is,
he is. He needs a lot of seasoning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, And and I don't know, I'm gonna look up
his if I can type his stats right now.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
He's got I'm looking at it. Three top tens this year, Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
All right, I mean, hell for a spider car, that's
pretty freaking impressive. Secondsay, I had the second in Atlanta.
I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, the sixth and degah.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, but I would argue, I would argue with those
three top tens, and the Nashville one is by far
the most impressive.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I mean I would say the most legitimate.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, it's the most legitimate because Atlanta is just a
mini Daytona and Talladega is Daytona Part two. So yeah, yeah,
so in eleventh at Bristol and then a second in Nashville.
Those are good finishes right there.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Man, So what five top tens last year? That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah. And the places like Texas Gateway, Richmond, Michigan. So
these are homestead So those are all ovals and all
like legit tracks, they're not like gimmicky tracks. Yeah, Watkins
Glenn and he had he was thirteenth of CODA. He
was third at Watkins Glenn last year. So he's got
got some skills on the ovals and on the U
and on the world courses.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's six top ten cent, but I mean he is
like a Paul or Nothing kind of driver.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Though a little bit, yeah, for sure. But he's young too.
I mean, so how old is this kid? Like eighteen
or some so he still got some room to develop,
for sure. I don't know. Though I was watching I
was believe it or not. And we should talk about
Amazon a little bit here. We'll do the ratings in
a second. I was watching a little bit of the

(19:54):
Amazon Prime post ray show a second time, and you
know latart, it's all about wholes of art. And I
don't know if it was Litard or if it was
still Junior was like, Oh, he's bringing some personality to
the sport that we're we've been missing. And they're right
that we've been missing personality. I don't feel that strong
personality from wholes of.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Ar quite yet though, just like talking to him, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, no, god, no, no, he is, he is.
He needs a lot of media training. Mmm. But again
twenty two yeah, ely too. And also trying to live
in the corporate world, right, he can't, he can't do
the same stuff he did like on Saturday afternoons Saturday

(20:36):
nights at his local track. That he has to be
corporate corporate Carson. And it's a fine line trying to
trying to weed through that when you're you know, you're
not sure, you're not. It's not and not everyone, not
every young kid can be a William Byron true and
just be someone who's there and by the grace of
God literally and figuratively to treat the media. So he's

(21:00):
rough around the edges, but I mean, he definitely has
plenty plenty of working for him.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well, I mean, I'm hoping that that he stays rough
around the edges, but more of that personality comes out
in a more charismatic, like unique, rememberable way, and because
they interviewed him and I was like, okay, but but
I wasn't like, oh, I'm going to remember this interview,
you know, right?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Sure? This is not the not going to go in
the Carson host of Our Highlight.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. I mean, he wasn't like, can you smell what
you know? Hose of r is cooking or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, because it doesn't make sense, and no one's like,
what do you what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I mean, we didn't get we didn't get the people's eyebrow?
Was it the people's eyebrow?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Okay, but maybe you should work on that. So ratings
for Amazon Prime a little bit down from last week.
In fact, I think it was a couple of hundred
thousand down from last week. Two point zero six million
on Amazon Prime. Last year this race had three point
two four million, but it was on NBC. That race

(21:57):
was rain delayed by quite a bit, in fact, so
much that they had bump it over to USA Network.
There it had two point one three million. And so, yeah,
Amazon's not blowing the doors off the thing, but I
didn't think they would. But they're at least in that
same area as cable TV, and that, to me is
kind of impressive that they've gotten that many people to

(22:18):
tune in on streaming only.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, I think people are still trying to figure that
whole thing out too. I didn't have many hiccups with
my stream at all. It was pretty smooth and I
was multitasking as well, So good good work on Amazon
to keep the stream going. Yeah, if you got people
buying so many, you know, international products at cheaper prices
for free delivery, you got to make sure that streams are.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Exactly I only have one problem. There was one point
where I had paused the race to go into the
kitchen and make some food, and then they came back out.
When I hit play, it was like having trouble catching
back up, Like the audio was like super slow and
the video was normal, I thought, And then a buffer
for a second and the audio was still so and

(23:02):
eventually it all caught up. Their controls for fast forward
and reverse are very clunky. Live yes on the replay.
When I went back and watched your replay, they had
thumbnails at the bottom, which was way better, but the
controls are still a little weird, like you're fast forwarding
and I'm used to like, okay, I'm fastwarning reversing, Like
there was one pit stop I wanted to see it again,

(23:24):
so I hit reverse. And then normally, like with Roku
or and most of your other streaming services, like when
I watch something on Spectrum, I'll hit reverse and then
when I want to start playing, I'll just hit the
play button, right, I'll just start playing. But that doesn't
do that for Amazon. It pauses it, and then you
got to hit play again to actually get at the
buffer for a couple of seconds and then start playing
the thing again. So so, and since there are no

(23:47):
thumbnails live at least on my stream, then when you're
trying to just bump back a little bit to see
what happened on that pit stop, you can't see you
got a gas. And at least after the fact on
the replay, like I said, they're thumbnails, so I could
kind of skip around where I wanted to watch the
interviews and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
There you go, but probably go to the YouTube Nscar
YouTube channel. They would probably uploaded it there too.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, they may have, But I will say that once again,
I thought Amazon Prime did a really good job, and
for me, it's kind of boiling down to two things.
Number One, that they are going back in the field,
Like at one point I had forgotten that Denny Hamlin
was leading the race because they were spending so much time,
Like wherever there was action on the track, wherever there

(24:29):
were two cars side by side, they just went there
and that's great. That reminded me of like an old
school broadcast from the early two thousands, where you're like,
I guess my driver's still up at the front leading
because it's boring, there's nothing going on, and so they're
focusing on the stuff that is going on. So it
was really a throwback in that respect. And I think
when it comes to the post race show, I think

(24:52):
that it's a combination of they got the Amazon vibe
going where they bring everybody down from the booth and
at one point they're goofing around like handing out beers
and stuff like that. But I think that more than that,
it's the thing that they have that the main networks,
the NBC and Fox and we'll see what happens with

(25:13):
tant are missing is the lack of urgency to move on, right,
And what I mean by that is that when Fox
gets done with the race, they're like, we got to
get to this. We run to judge Judy right now, man,
So we're just gonna wrap this up real quick and
get out of here. And same thing with NBC, and
they're moving on to nothing like they have nothing to

(25:34):
move on to, but they feel like they got to
get there real quick. And because Amazon has a luxury
of not having an end time, then you get that
not just that proper post race show with drivers coming
up and doing interviews, but by being able to do
it as long as they feel like they like it's pertinent,
then it gives you the impression that they care about

(25:55):
what happened, that they care about the race, that they're
genuinely enthusiastic about talking about it. And when Fox or
f S one or NBC or or any of the
broadcast networks, when when the race ends and they just
dump out and go to the next thing, it makes
you feel like they they didn't even give a shit
about any of it. They just wanted to get it
over and dumbest so they can move on to the

(26:15):
next stupid thing they've got.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, and I think you picked the right team of
people there to do that kind of camaraderie of you know,
sitting in the garage talking like like people, you know,
I think the good the good old boy situation, and
then I think that's that's the right, the right feeling
that they give. We'll make you. But again, we've had
two night races in a row. We'll see if that

(26:41):
energy is kind of still there for an afternoon race
that we have this weekend in Michigan, in that same
camaraderie and this, that and the other, Like how much
do they change night and day? Because night and day
you can just get the thing and like, ah, we're
all decompressing. But you know, who knows, afternoon could be different.
Don't know, But I think I think they have the
right people there to make it that homey feeling after
the race. And because you know, not for nothing, the

(27:05):
people that the other networks have don't have that kind
of camaraderie, don't have that kind of warmth I guess
situation that they have going for themselves at Amazon. So
I mean, I think that the right amount of people
there and the right personalities have made that a lot
better than it should be.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I started to think about it more because all I
intended to do and this was last night. Yeah, I
think it was last night that I just wanted to
go back and I wanted to watch the highlights real quick.
And on Amazon, they tied the highlights to the post
race show. So they showed the highlights of the rolls
right into the post race show. And so I'm watching
the highlights and then it starts with the post race

(27:44):
show and I go into the kitchen and get you know, beverage.
Come back out. I'm sitting down, and my intent was
to only watch the highlights and then move on just
you know, go watch something else, and ended up sitting
there and watching almost the entire thing. I mean, I
fast forward through the commercials and stuff. But they interviewed Bubba,
and they interviewed Ryan Blaney, and you know, they're talking

(28:05):
about you know, Michigan coming up. And I'm like, this
is the first time, this is the first time in
years that I've sat there and just watched without you
know what, watch the talking heads. Usually, I don't really
care about that stuff, like them Fox and NBC. I
don't give a shit about that stuff. I just wait
until the race comes on, watch the race. And and
so I was like, wow, Wow, I actually sat there

(28:25):
and watched this, Like why like why what is different?
And I give Amazon credit. I thought they weren't going
to be able to recreate that kind of vibe that
they have on their NFL broadcasts, and so far it
feels like they're getting to that point where they have
that vibe. And it'll be very interesting to see how
I mean, because TNT is going to be mostly the
same crew carried over, which is good. I don't know

(28:46):
if they're going to have that open ended kind of
thing where they don't know where they're going to end
the broadcast or not. But it'll be very very interesting
to see how and if this alters how NBC does
their cover and then probably probably not, it probably won't,
and then it'll be very interesting to see how it

(29:08):
feels like, what the vibe feels like, just as somebody watching,
if it feels like you've like you were like driving
along in the road and then you hit like a
big patch of mud and you just kind of slow
it down, I feel like that's gonna be like the
atmosphere is gonna feel like everything just kind of came
to a screeching halt in terms of entertainment value and interestingness.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, no, And I think that that you. You have
to do that in not renegade broadcast style, right, Like
the Amazon can get away with it. They can get
away with drinking beers on set. They can get away
with long stuff because they're they're the you know how
seven up. They called it the uncola. This is the unbroadcast.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
True.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's a situation where it's it's it's something they can
get away with. You're not gonna be able to get
away with that on network TV. You're not able to
get away with that, you know, on even on cable
network Like, this is something that's very unique to Amazon.
And I think it's good. I think it's it's a
nice breather, it's a nice relaxer. Quite honestly, I don't.
I hate that they don't have the ten races in

(30:12):
the middle. I know, I've races because I don't give
a good goddamn about TNT.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I know, I know. Yeah, Well, I mean maybe if
they're carrying over a lot of people, then they'll still
try to keep that vibe, but I doubt it. I
think you're right. I think they're bound more by the
regular rules since they're more of a regular broadcast outfit.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, I mean when you look at it too. It's
just like the you know, going to Max too, Like
how much does MAX equate into it? How much are
you going to put into Max? And will will that
post post race be the Max? Then that they can
still stay the same.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, And that's the thing, man, if they do it,
is that what they're intending to do is do the
race on on cable and then move the pope.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Oh, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, because if they did that, it's gonna be the
same feeling. Even though there is a post race show.
I'm probably not going to tune in because I'm like, dude,
I don't want to channel, don't want to figure this out.
I want to move to a streaming service. I'm watching
it on cable. I just want to see the freaking
post race show. Man.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I think Max is streaming the races and along with TNT.
Oh I see okay, so in in step.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Oh yeah, I don't have I don't think I have Max.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I don't have I gotta get Max. It's the Stanley
Cup Final?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is really no way? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah? I realize that Stanley Cup Finals?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Is it not on broadcast TV.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's on TNT. I don't have. You don't know how cable.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm just like, oh, that sucks. Well, you could probably
do a trial or something.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Right now, they don't have I gotta find it. If
they do, I gotta find it because I couldn't find
it anywhere in their salling.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Netflix doesn't. But but you could with Netflix and you like,
pay for it for a month, watch the thing you
want to watch, and then get rid of it if
you want.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's kind of the plan. It's that. I mean, I
also want to watch The Pit. I've been seeing clips
of the show The Pit on like reels and stuff
like that, and it looks like an interesting show.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Interesting. Yeah, I don't even know what else is on.
Do they have all the uh no, Disney Plus has
all the Star.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Wars stuff, not Max right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So NASCAR standings, William Byron keeps a lead, had a
decent race, didn't win it, but he had a good
race by forty eight over Kyle Larson, who had the
wildest race ever man. He got up into the he
was poopy early, got up into the wall, pitted a
couple of times, and went a lap down, got the
lap back, ended up in the top ten by the end.
Of the race. It was nuts. Christopher Bell is third,
he's eighty eight points back already. Denny Hamlin is fourth,

(32:24):
Chase Elliott is fifth. They're right next to each other
at one hundred four and one hundred and five. Out
the rest of the top ten you get Reddick, Blainey,
Logano Chestain, and Bubba Wallace is in tenth. Good job
for him with that third place finish in this third place,
I think in this race it was it was in
the top five or six, maybe it was six. He
was sixth, six or six at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
No stage points for him either. That's that's a big hit.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
That is, especially when you're right now trying to get
it on points and you're in the top ten. Those
stage points, man, can get you a big buffer as
poopy as the stages are. At the bottom of the
top sixteen, Ryan Priest is currently in the sixteenth spot,
but Josh Berry once again back outside of the top
sixteen with a victory, So that means that Kyle Busch

(33:06):
is right now the cutoff driver in fifteenth. He's up
by just two over Priests, who got into a wreck
at Nashville at one point, but he did finish the race,
I believe, and he's six ahead or yeah, he's up
by two over priests. He's behind Chris Busher by six.
I wrote that wrong in our notes. But we still

(33:26):
have that really interesting situation at the bottom of the
top sixteen, the gap between Austin Syndric who is in thirteenth,
and Michael McDowell all the way down in twenty first,
just twenty five points separating all of those drivers, and
some of those are going to be in at the
rate we're going and some are going to be out.
A Blies win was the first year, so we have

(33:47):
nine winners now in fourteen races. It seems like we're
on pace that we could get sixteen winners. It's not
gonna happen, right There're gonna be a couple of spots
on points that are up for grabs, and if things
still stay this close between thirteenth and twenty first, it
definitely won't just come down to the final race. It'll
come down to the final race between a half dozen drivers.

(34:07):
That would make things really interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, exactly, I mean, and that's kind of what you want.
That's kind of the NASCAR's banking on too. So we'll
see how it all goes. Yeah, the real big thing
is what happens with Josh Barry. I mean him pinballing
in and out of the top sixteen. Ye is definitely
detrimental that people are gonna have to watch up until
that last race, So I'll be it'll be interesting to

(34:30):
see what happens. I think. I think this could be
a nice little play out, But at the same time,
it's like, man, the sixteen car field is way too
bitch to way too many people.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It really is. And that's the other part of the
Rocky Stenhouse thing, Like he he was pissed and I
think legitimately so because he's at the back of that
group and he's fighting to stay in the top sixteen.
And they mentioned that in the broadcast. I'm like, yeah,
I mean, technically they're right, but I think it just
goes to show and prove that there should be sixteen

(34:58):
cars in the freaking playoffs to begin with.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
And it's definitely definitely something where it's just like, yeah,
you know what, this was probably a bad idea everybody.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah. Yeah, And the same thing with it with the
in season challenge, you know, brag Keselaski ended up being
that thirty second driver in the last driver in, which
is wild that he's having such a poop year. But
but yeah, you know, we could go through the field,
but there's no reason to because it's almost everybody basically
mm hmm. Top seed is of course, William Byron, Bottom

(35:29):
seed is brag Keselski.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Actually everyone you know.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Actually, no, I take that back. We don't know what
the seating is. Those are just the drivers that are in.
So Brad Keselaski is locked in. But remember it's it's
the next three races. It's the final three races on
Amazon that set the seating.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I hope the final three races are brought to you
by Avril Levine's complicated.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh nice, Oh yeah, exactly for sure, Jesus, and then
all of this craft for a million bucks. That's it,
I mean for you and me. That's like life changing
for them, they don't care.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Drop in the bucket.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
All right, let's move on to some NASCAR news because today,
just today, a couple of hours ago, some major news
in the NASCAR lawsuit with twenty three eleven in front row,
NASCAR actually won a ruling at this point the Fourth
US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. They have announced that

(36:28):
they will be revoking the injunction that allows twenty three
to eleven in front row to race as chartered teams. Now,
it doesn't take effect right away, so they're still chartered
at Michigan. The teams have fourteen days to appeal, and
you know damn well they're going to appeal during that time,
they still retain their charters. The ruling would go into

(36:52):
effect seven days after the appeal period, and so basically
for three weeks on the calendar two races. I think
there's nothing that would change in terms of them being
charter teams, guaranteed spots, and of course getting charter money
depending on how they finish. But if they don't appeal
or they lose the appeal, then sorry if they If

(37:16):
they don't appeal or they lose the appeal by June
twenty sixth or before that, then starting June twenty sixth,
they will no longer have a charter, which means that
just a couple of days later, on Saturday night in Atlanta,
then all of the twenty three eleven cars, all of
the front row racing cars, would then be racing as

(37:36):
open teams. And theoretically, on top of that these charters
are up for grabs like NASCAR retains them, I suppose,
and they could do whatever they wanted with them. They
could hold onto them until the case is over. They
could sell them to some other owner, they could use
them according to the current rules, they could use them
to field their own teams. Or they could even turn

(37:58):
around and say, after the end of the court case,
win loser, draw, because now you know, these charters are
gone for twenty three eleven in front row. Hey, you
guys can have these back, but you're gonna have to
pay for them type of thing. And so this, if
it stands, will technically be a major victory early on

(38:19):
for NASCAR. But I also think that there's no way
that it can be a victory for NASCAR. And I'll
tell you why, and then I'd let you go at
it and tell me if I'm right or wrong here,
Because if if this is no overturn, or if this
isn't reinstated, and starting in Atlanta twenty three to eleven,

(38:40):
front row, those cars no longer have charters. I'm looking
at the entry list right now, so you've got both
these teams would then have a decision to make. Obviously,
they'll keep racing while they have money, but they're not
gonna be getting nearly as much money to run their
operation or nearly as much support from NASCAR to run
their operation. And then if they've got to buy these
chart back at the end of this whole process, you

(39:02):
could be talking tens of millions of dollars. It might
not be like they might not be able to afford it.
And so by winning this ruling and having the injunction
thrown out, you're risking at that point all of those
teams no longer being in the sport. And that means
Noah Gregson, who won the fan vote in the All
Star Race out of a ride right the rest of

(39:24):
the front roar racing guys Gillilan Saint Smith. I guess
that's something. But then on the twenty three eleven side,
you've got Bubba Wallace, who if people love him or
hate him, they're all paying attention to him and he
is one of the most popular drivers in the sport.
You've got Tyler Reddick, who won the freaking regular season
last year and is in the top Both he and

(39:45):
Wallace are in the top ten in points right now.
And then Riley Herps too exists, but he does have
a major sponsor on his car that would be basically
have they potentially could be pulling half their money because
they're on his car, and of course they're on ty
Gibbs car.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
And n Tyler Reddickict times too.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Tyler redict times too. And so from NASCAR's perspective, are
you really winning here? Because I look at that and
I see spots on the in the starting lineup that
there's nobody waiting in the wings to take over, and
anybody who would take them over would not be able
to feel nearly as good of a team or teams
as what we're seeing there. And multiple popular drivers, some

(40:32):
of which are young and upcoming drivers that would be
out of a ride. And so how does that benefit
NASCAR outside of this? F you moral victory.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
And that's all they need.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
You think they care about drivers, I guess not think that.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
You think they would just not throw something at them,
and hey, you got five hours to read this seven
hundred page paper.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
True, they don't give a god damn.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
They just want to save their money. They want to
make sure that they they're able to control things, they're
able to do what they want to do and and
get get through all this, and unfortunately, I feel the
tides are turning. I unfortunately think that this might be
a domino for NASCAR to to come out. I think
I think the twenty three eleven in front Romoter Sports

(41:18):
team and I hope I'm wrong, might have came out
a little too strong. And you see that that that
f one doesn't want to work with them, Liberty Media
doesn't want to work when other teams are kind of
just like leave us out of it, right, Like it's
almost like they made themselves a pariah.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, I mean, they're they're betting, they're betting on winning,
and the problem is we don't know how it shakes out.
But I don't think we really know how it shakes out,
whether they win or lose.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
For that Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,
I mean it's it's such a it's such a you
hate to use uncharted territories because it's so terrible of
a cliche, but it is. And at the same time,
it's just like, man, for some reason, just like why
are you trying to push this hard if you think

(42:04):
you have such a good case. And it's like maybe
it's starting to unravel. Maybe NASCAR does have a point,
or maybe their case isn't as strong as they thought
it was. I mean, do they have the right thing
in might? Absolutely, I mean, the NASCAR's screwing over the
teams in a big way. But the way they went
about it and the cases that they have and the
fact that they're not getting any kind of or at

(42:26):
least the support that they're getting is very few and
far between not voting well for the long term. And
I think NASCAR is going to take this win and
then probably probably start to steamroll and snowball over it
because they'll be like, well, we take this win the appeal,
what can they appeal? It's just like, how can you
win an appeal when you get like, what fancy uncoverable

(42:47):
thing that you're gonna make ahead of time that's gonna
make this happen.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
And then on top of that, if twenty three eleven
is just like whatever, we don't care anymore, right because
we don't want to buy your charters backgray to pay
too much for these charters in the first place, then
you know they're losing Michael Jordan, who they touted when
he came in there. They would be losing Denny Hamlin
as an owner, and they will probably be losing Denny

(43:13):
Hamlin as a driver because, let's face it, Danny didn't
have to keep racing me, I wouldn't keep racing. He's
already got the money, He's already going to be in
the Hall of Fame unless NASCAR blocks that, which I
would not put that past them. So, I mean, you
end up losing a star driver and a legendary sports
figure as an owner, and you know, it just it

(43:35):
makes the sport look bad by, you know, putting them
in this position. And I understand that NASCAR didn't pick
this right, I mean it was it was forced upon
them by these teams, but it's still like like they
could have let this part of it just kind of
slide and say, okay, fine, you can race as a
charter team until we figure this out, but we're going
to kick your ass in court. But no, they It's

(43:59):
like everything they do is based on principle and principle alone,
and eventually it's gonna shoot him in the foot. I
don't know when. I don't know if it's this, I
don't know if it's something else, but eventually they're gonna
shoot themselves in the foot. As long as the France
family is in charge.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, I think that that's the big
thing too. But I think it's also a fact that
we need to get every win. We can't show any
kind of sign of weakness because then if that gets exploited,
who's to say another team can't bring this up and
start crumbling it down. And and and that's how that's
how it works. Is you get one piece done, and
if if you even if you win that one piece,

(44:33):
and there's a little bit of scraps here and there,
other teams can get those scraps and make those bigger
scraps and so and so and so. So you have
to be undefeated in this, uh to make to to
kind of show off your alpha male situation.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's certainly how NASCAR is approaching it.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
You're right, So, I mean they got they gotta go.
It's it's pall or nothing, baby.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, yea. So we'll find out what happens with that.
It's we're gonna have some news sooner rather than later,
because the teams only have a couple of weeks now
to appeal and they're Ghana. So we'll have a rolling
on that probably in the next three weeks. Connors Zilich
is coming back for two more races with Trackhouse, who
remained in the eighty seven car sponsored by Red Bull.

(45:15):
He'll be running in Atlanta, which is three weeks away,
and then Watkins Glen a little bit after that. He's
already run two races this year. Who's thirty seventh Dakota
trying to get his feet wet in the Cup Series
and then twenty third at Charlotte. Not bad for the
six hundred man and he's only eighteen fricking years old.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, he's got a nice bright future ahead of him.
They're bringing him up properly too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, give him a little bit of experience, variety of tracks,
you know, mixing up the ovals in the world courses.
So that's good. When he gets to Atlanta, it's going
to be super confusing for all of us because it's
no longer Atlanta Motor Speedways now Echo Park Speedway. I
don't know what Echo Park is. I read it and
I forgot.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Are they r V?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I think I think they're. I think they're what the band.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
The band California Neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh, I thought that's what the band renamed themselves once
they got the female singer. They became Echo Park instead
of Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
No, they became unvaccine it.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Oh gotcha, Okay they did.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I did I do my own research park.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I did my home research park.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Echo Park used cars, ohne used cars.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Wow, they're right next to Doger Stadium.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, Douyer Stadium.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Wait, but that's not like that's the day. That's like
the city Echo Park Way.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
That's the city. But the Echo Park in the situation
is used cars.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Oh okay, wow, interesting cars.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's a car van.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Oh and here I see a thing here where it
says that they're owned by the Smith family. So they're
owned by the same family owns SMI, which is the
same family owns Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Moder Speedway SOUSE with Glenn Echo Park in Bethesda.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, that's true. There is a Glen Echo Park. So
basically it's just like they're sponsoring themselves. It's like Hendrick
Cars dot Com being on Collars's car. Oh yeah, it
makes sense. I mean, if you own them both, why
not cut yourself a deal, move the money around, hide
it from the feds. Just do it man, pay less
taxes and then get this. Speaking of the France family,

(47:16):
I didn't know like half of this. Well I wouldn't
know any of it, but one the NASCAR side opened
the door to the IMPS side, which I had no
clue about. All Right, So Jim France, who is the
CEO of NASCAR runs NASCAR has ever since what's his
name got, you know, like pulled over for snort and stuff,
and he, Jim France, apparently was working on a deal

(47:39):
with Spire to pay for a car for this driver
named Jack Aiken eight can eighth Ken Jack Aiken. And
You're like, well, okay, why Well Jack Aitken currently drives
for Action Express Racing, which team I've heard of and
many times before. They race an imsept and they've done

(48:00):
some twenty four hour for Lamall races as well. What
I didn't know is that Action Express Racing is directly
owned by Jim France. And I was like, wait a minute,
Wait a minute, is IMSA not owned them run by
NASCAR now? And yes, yes they are. So Jim France
is the chairman of IMSA and he also owns a

(48:20):
team that races in IMSA, and he's the chairman of NASCAR,
and he was trying to field a car in a
NASCAR race. On the IMPS side, I guess they're like, dude,
we're just happy to have a place to run, so
we don't care. And NASCAR once that started floating around
the garage, people were like, whoa wait a minute, this
sounds like super sketch. And so even though the deal
was almost done then the sides were transparent about it.

(48:44):
Spier was like, yeah, we were gonna run it, and
Jim France was like, yes, we were going to do this,
but I was going to spire. I didn't want to
be involved in it directly. I just wanted to finance
it for this driver that I believe in. But they
pulled the plug on the whole thing. And I don't
know how I feel about it, because certainly the optics
there are a conflict of interest, right, But what is

(49:06):
NASCAR gonna do, right? They're not gonna let Spire enter
an illegal car, and if they did, somebody is gonna
catch it and then it's gonna blow up into a thing.
I genuinely think he just wanted to give his driver
a chance.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah for sure, I mean why not, I mean, get
given given the backnd I'll see why. It's the worst
thing in the world, to be quite honest with you.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
And the weirdest part about that is going back to
the story that we had a couple of minutes ago
about the NASCAR charter case. In this new charter agreement,
NASCAR could feel the team, right, they could take a charter,
they could buy back a charter from somebody else if
it's if it's vacant, right, and they could use it
to feel their own team. If they could feel their
own team, that's way more of a conflict of interest

(49:46):
than just paying for Spire. Now, the real problem here
is that anybody, including the chairman of NASCAR or the
CEO of NASCAR, can buy somebody a ride. And that's
the real problem. I think that's the issue here that
nobody in the garage is talking about. They think it's
just like commonplace that you can buy a ride in NASCAR.
They don't have a problem with Spire selling a car

(50:07):
to somebody. They have a problem with Jim France being
the person who's buying the car. I think they're throwing
the baby out with the bathwater there. I think the
real problem is that you or I I, if we
have enough money, we could pay for Jack aikin and
his brother Clay to get into a car and drive
in a race, and that's the real problem.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that the nepotism side
really helps sound a lot. Yeah, I mean I don't
have a problem with it. You got to get more
cars in there. More cars equal more gooder.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, I mean, at least this guy has has experience, right,
It's not just like you know, Joey Gay's money showing up.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
And it would be really awesome if they did come
up with the deal to put Jack Aiken on the
car and then the it was sponsored by Clay Aikin.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I'd be wonderful. Yeah, I would love that.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Old people would love it. Old people love Clay Aikin.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
It's kind of weird, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
I don't even know where you prefer, but old people
don't where he performs.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Well yeah, well that's like most of the people who
like get lost in the fold after thing like, who's
going to Frankie Valley? Why are they still propping him up?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Shockingly enough, Frankie Valley does perform out here. Of course
he does, see, you know, because the old people love him.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Man, I mean, I'm fine with it. I don't. I
don't understand why it's such a kerfuffle. It's not like
they're gonna build the parts and make his car super
super speedy or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, that's the weird part about it. I mean, they're
gonna have to enforce the rules because everybody will know
if they don't. And uh and I'm like, the teams
and drivers are gonna step up against NASCAR here, but
they're not gonna stand with twenty three eleven in front
row with the real weighty issue. I mean, come on, guys,
gotta bs wow.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Either way, speaking of I'm checking out Jeff Cluck stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
And far be it from me, by the way to
defend the France family. But in this instance, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
I'm gonna they gotta they got a point here on
this one.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
They do. So.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Jeff Gluck also doesn't understand why the next three races
are for position seeds in the in tournament thing. He's like,
why would just use the standing right exactly?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
We already have a field already announced. It just those
are your those are your things.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah. So it also brings up the question was NASCAR
at Nashville a good race?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
We forgot to talk about that, all right, So I'm
gonna say it was over fifty percent said yes. And
I think that we're gonna see a bump on these
Amazon races because the broadcast is better and so that
gives you you're seeing more of the racing, right, So
it's going to be better because you're seeing more guys
in more battles, even if it's not at the front.
And so I'm gonna say the number was relatively strong,
but not the best because we didn't see a lot

(52:41):
of jockeying at the front. So I'm going to go
sixty seven percent said yes.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
On the on the nose, really for real, sixty seven nice.
It is the lowest of all the NASCAR Nashville races. Wow,
last year's was seventy two point two. Okay, twenty twenty
three eighty one point seven, two thousand and two seventy
one point two, and then twenty twenty one seventy seven

(53:07):
point four.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
There's no way of knowing this, but I bet you anything,
if this exact race happens as a Fox broadcast, that
the numbers are probably like eight to ten percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah for sure. I mean I guess history kind of
argues with me if this is a lower one of
the lower natural races. But still I'm talking about this
particular race. If it was done on NBC or if

(53:31):
it was done on Fox, I think it's a lower number.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah. Also on Jeff Cluck's thing, he did a story
about Carson Josevar Oh did he now like a few
hours of like today Thursday you record this and Carson
Carson josevar Uh. In this profile they talked about the
time where he he won a so Eric Eastep is

(53:56):
a YouTuber makes a lot of stuff on YouTube for NASCAR.
Wise used to make a stop motion racing with one
twenty twelve or one sixty fourth stale cars and Carson
Josevar was I guess one a contest or some stuff
like that. It was one of the little cars in there.
And he won a race twelve years ago when he

(54:16):
was ten years old. Oh my gosh, and has the
receipts of the comments. Apparently he told all his friends
in school about that he won the stop motion race
when he was ten years old.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
It's it's kind of relatable. They're trying to make the
villain they're trying to make the villain very nice.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah they are so o hey. It kind of works
with Ross Chastain and the watermelon thing because everybody's pissed
off at him, but then he smashes out watermelon and
the fans going on.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
It's for sure. So that was that was your little
non sequitever we got there to. Yeah, mixed to that
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
And keep that in mind because we're bringing that background
in a minute. First, a little bit of driver news.
A j Allmendinger confirmed coming back next year. That was
confirmed by KALIG president Chris Rice. He said he wants
Stinger to be back in the sixteen car.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Sure makes sense.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
He's running okay, Yeah, and he gives him a shot
at any road course of potentially making the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
And veteran presence, Let's be honest, you can't. A guy
who's been there before, has been through all the tracks.
You know, it's good to have something like that as
as a cornerstone to your organization.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
It was weird when they were like, we're going to
keep you, but we're going to make you a full
time Exfinity driver because you're taking all that experience and
you're not using it.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Well, I think they also had money from elsewhere, and
then the money didn't they turn the results shockingly.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Enough, rocking Him Speedway, fresh off of all that buzz
from the Truck Series race for sale, here you go. Yeah,
it's the classic pumping dump scam where they convinced NASCAR
to bring a race back because reasons and history, and
they're like, oh, hey, we're popular.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
You want to buy this thing, so you guys interested.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I mean, I think that there's a ninety five percent
chance that either NASCAR, slash I, s C or SMI
is going to buy this track. I'm figuring it's probably
gonna be SMI.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I mean who else is going to buy it? And
because because you know, if one of them buys it,
then it's gonna be a points race on the schedule eventually.
But if but anybody else who buys it, there's no
there's no guarantee at all.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
No, no, not at all. I mean, it's just kind
of hanging out there and you you have you have
to have NASCAR buy it or one of the entities
buying it. Doesn't doesn't make sense, but good for that.
Good for a rocking, rocking hand or yeah, good for
rocking han By, get it going and just get the
money out of it so they can forget about it
in seven years exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I mean, if you're gonna sell, sell while you got
the pop, and they got the pop right now. So okay,
So this is the ross chesting thing that said, and
you'll hang on to that for a second. We'll come
back to it because NASCAR announced the mid regular season,
so after the thirteenth race, the merch leaders and sales

(57:05):
in the NASCAR garage Kyle Larson number one over Chase Elliott,
So Larson one, Chase Elliott two, then Kyle Busch three,
Ross Chastain four, and then Ryan Blaney five. So Larson
Elliott think they're interchangeable. So that doesn't shock me. Blainey
up there in the top five doesn't shock me at all.

(57:26):
Kyle Busch, as polarizing as he is and as bad
as he's been the past two years, that does surprise me.
And then Chastain. This is where I'm like, dude, the
watermelon thing must work, because again he's a very polarizing figure,
but apparently the people who love him are buying stuff
or else. His image has softened. A little bit and

(57:46):
he's being more universally accepted by fans.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah, I mean, but I mean also you gotta figure
how many how many shirts do you need to Chase Elliot?
How many shirts do you need of Kyle Lars And
with everyone changing, it's like, do I need a new
T shirt of I would like to see just the
quantity that the bult that.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Has been So that's the thing, and because not only
do you not know like what numbers we're talking about here,
but also what the disparity between Larson and Elliot at
one two, what disparity between them is? And then what
the drop off because you know there's a drop off
after Elliott down to bush Chest say and.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
A Blaney mm hmm, yeah, oh yeah, I mean there's
a huge gap.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
There because it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the
most popular drivers. And because of that, there's stuff is
selling left and right, although that is the case for
Larson and Elliott, but it could be that just nobody's
buying things, mostly because of tariffs, and so there's just
not a lot of sales and so it's not hard
to be three, four or five behind them, and the.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Designs aren't decorated. They're all cookie cutter stuff, and it's
just like it doesn't it doesn't look as good as
it used to.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, it's the same thing as like announcing a sellout
when you only released half the tickets to the arena.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Right, or or you buy tickets or second you know, yeah,
other people buy these tickets and you're like, oh, but
we sold out. That doesn't mean people came through.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Right exactly. So without the numbers, it's so hard to
tell what that all really means.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
But I do find it interesting that Kyle Busch is
up there being not that great the past season in
three quarters and then Chess staying up there despite the
fact that he's very polarizing, you know, especially considering that
the other three drivers in there are like definitely faces.
I mean Brian Blamey and Chase Elliott especially, but even

(59:38):
Kyle Larson. I think you can look at him as
a face now in NASCAR.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah, for sure. Speaking at Kyle Larson will not be
driving in the Adelaide Grand Final in November for the
Supercars event.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Oh yeah, I saw that that because they were talking
about him maybe doing that.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
It pulled himself from that, which would be right after
the championships. So there's that. Listen, We've we've spoken for years,
spoken for years about when's the new manufacturer coming in? Yes,
when's the new manufacturer coming in?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Hen Nissan. I'm hoping it's been fast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
They're there that people are asking what's going to happen?
What you know about Garrett Mitchell?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Garrett Mitchell?

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
What the sorry I used his government name? What do
you know about Kleidas McFarlane Clidas?

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Oh, Cleidas Kleidis. Uh, you know he's got that YouTube
thing going. I don't know is he does he? Is
he partial to a particular brand or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
There's a possibility that Kalidas McFarlane is getting involved with
the RAM coming back to NASCAR.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I did not know that this was the w w E,
but apparently it is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Yes, the the Craftsman Truck Series team, possibly from Stillanis's
RAMS brand, has entered the sport, according to four people
familiar with the matter. According to Sports Business Journal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
They're like, all right, guys, we could come back and
like sign the biggest team we can possibly we give
thor sport up in here? Are they still around? I
don't even know? Yeah, And like, we get their drivers
up there, we could try and win the championship, or
we get a YouTuber. What do you guys think?

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Hey man, the views are probably much better with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
The views are definitely much better with the YouTuber. And
it's still anti's like they're on the ropes right now,
so they probably don't have a bunch of money to
throw in this thing. And I'm sure the YouTuber is
way cheaper then they're getting a big name team. But
still it feels completely corny. It feels like a stunt,
is what it feels.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Well, yes, most most times when you start a new brand,
it's a stunt, I guess. But yeah, with the Bram
submitted application and earlier in February twenty of this couple
months ago to get back into the series for twenty six,
so we will see what happens there. But cludis McFarland
looks to be on the inside of all of this,

(01:02:14):
so we will have to see a document viewed by
a sports business journalists. McFarland is one of the names
slated to be part of the Lands program as a
driver and brand. Ambassard's unclear if the document was final
and as possible McFarland's plans could change. The team is
expected to lean on celebrity partnership and potentially potentially ownership
to grow its presence quickly. Interesting, So we will see

(01:02:39):
how this all goes. If that's a development, We're just like,
how are we going to get somebody? And what new
brand's coming in there? Yep, it is brand we've seen before.
God damn it exactly? Can you know it is? What
it freaking is? Is there anything from Big backs? Don't

(01:03:01):
see anything from big packers here except for all the
court crap.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Oh yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
But yeah, but that's that's all I got for some
news there as well. What do you what do you
got for sponsored? H?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Well, we got a couple of sponsors. Something called Very
Good Ventures VGV is going to be on the number
ninety nine Daniel Suarez car. That's a Polkano coming up
in a little bit car. Looks pretty good, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Very Good Ventures is second Screen Experience.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Oh oh is that okay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Where on? Yeah it's a prep proprietory AI powered app.
Oh yeah, they kind of just used to run things around.
It looks like they Yeah, they did give a second
screen experience kind of tracks, where the cars at, kind
of what what Amazon has in terms of telemetry for
breaking gas to steer, where the steering is at, where
they're at in the track, what's surrounding them all kinds

(01:03:54):
of crazy crap.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Interesting. Well, they have a have a very funny logo.
It's a unicorn wearing shades, So.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
It'd be funnier if it had shutter shades on. But
I guess with Kanye doing what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, probably don't want to go down that road.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And I guess this app is something that track House
hands out to pitch box guests for them to follow along.
Oh that's cool as well. So it's strictly for Trackhouse,
so good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
That's pretty cool. Um, So we got that one real
American beer his back, Big Choker on the forty seven
with Ricky Stenhouse seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
And Maga, Maga, Ricky all over it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Maybe that's gonna be this weekend at Michigan. Total Play
is going to be on the number seventy seven. Carson
hosts of Our Car at Mexico City. They are a
Mexican telecommunications company. I don't know if they're Telsale, but
I feel like because he said they're the largest one,
I feel like maybe that's a rebrand of Telsale.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Probably, yeah, probably, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah. And then Real American Beer Part two. Form Energy
is going to be on the number twenty four William
Byron car. But this is not this year, it's starting
next year. Two race deal and then in twenty twenty
seven a for race deal, which would be perfect timing
for the company to go under in them not to
be able to pay their bills anymore. So Form Energy

(01:05:10):
is an energy drink because we need, desperately need another
energy drink. But this one is unique. It's not like
Monster Red Bowl with their fancy logos and sponsorships and stuff.
This is a partnership between Anheuser bush which is weird
because you figured that would be a track house thing.
So Anheuser Busch first Form PHO r M by the way,

(01:05:32):
first Form, which, as best I can tell, in my opinion,
allegedly just tell Snake oil. And then Dana White, who again,
in my opinion, allegedly is a right wing whack job.
So that sounds like the perfect combination for an energy
drink to be on William Byron's car.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Yeah, you know, that makes definitely makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I'm sure those all cases and cases of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
All line all lines up with everything involved, and this
will not be on the Chase Elliott car though, as
he has a deal with Coca Cola. I'm appreciate that
kind of probably energy drink, which I don't know what
Aaron energy drink.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Is, that could be a side bet whether those twenty
twenty seven races actually happen or not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Dude, I would be wondering if these races happened.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Listen, just I know that Dana White has got the
whole UFC crab behind him or whatever, but that's not
as big of a thing as you know, as it
might seem to be. And there's a huge difference between
being a UFC fan and saying, because Dana White has
put his name on this crappy product, I'm gonna go
out and buy it. Tell me where you can buy

(01:06:37):
a Rowdy Energy right now? Put it that way. Oh,
they went they went under, Yeah, exactly exactly what.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Browdy Energy did.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Have a good run, and they did. But the thing is,
if you're trying to find like a market niche, you're
trying to find a place to slot into where you
can be successful going up against Monster and and uh
and red Bull is not the way to do it.
There's basically room for one other player, and that other
player is rock Star and that's it. Like you're not

(01:07:07):
going to break into that market. I mean, it's so
like poorly informed two in this like market atmosphere around
Energy drinks to try to take on those those giants,
and you might as well intruce a soda while you're
at it. And along the same lines, beer is on
the down trend, right, But yeah, real American beer is like, oh,
this is a perfect time for us to get into

(01:07:27):
piss water beer. And but beer overall is like trending down.
And so both of these places are trying to like
stick their nose into giant markets that are so hard
to compete against. And they're doing so against Titans. And
the weird thing is that Real American beer doesn't have
a beer manufacturer behind it when an officially doesn't, Befom

(01:07:49):
Energy does, right, So Anna eiser Bush should know better,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Yeah, but when I get when I get in there,
I guess why not try to get it? You get
your money in there? In real America beers backed by HAWLK. Cogan.
So what more could you want?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Exactly? Yeah, well that let.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Me tell you something, brother, it's two hundred percent America.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Two American. That'd be hilarious if it was brewing Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
It's like, what do you Ricky Wyat said on the
side of your car? I know, right, American style?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Is that what it actually says?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
No, it does not. You're joking?

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
No, no, Why would I say it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Oh, my gosh, because I thought you were being flip?
I thought you were just making up stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Why would I not? Why would I say that if
it wasn't over the rear reel?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
My gosh. I'm trying to find out where who brews it.
It is brewed by Great Central Brewing Company in Chicago, Illinois.
It's a premium logger. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Yeah, well there's three different brewing companies it seems like
City Brewing and the Cross Wisconsin and the Lab in
Saint Paul Minnie Soul gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
So so these people just kind of like make stuff
for people like they like they're like they're co packers
basically is what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Well, essentially, you're just like listen hulkster, let us have
your licensing, right, So you go out there and dance
around like a fool, and we're both mutually fine, we'll
get the we'll get the red hats, and away you
go the way you gotta do it, baby, this is
how we do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
They're just outsourcing. I'm sure it's the same exact pilsner
that Great Central Brewing Company sells as their pillsner.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Absolutely it is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
So so it's a marketing play and not a good one, no,
but but they got them Ricky's car, so sales are
going to go through the roof any minute now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Congrats to him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah, as long as Amazon keeps focusing on who's running seventeenth?

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Right? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
So that brings us to Michigan. What did we do
last week? I can't remember who I picked last week
because it was so early in the week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
You had Hamlin, you win two spots over me. I
had William Byrony finished third.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Hey, but they were both in the mix there exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
So there's that. But we have stuff to do before that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh well that's right. Oh my gosh, how could I
forget the only good thing on nascar dot Com which
I have subsequently ruined, and then they made it good
for a while, and then it was kind of in
the middle, and now now it's not bad. They've got
fifty six fifty six paint schemes on the paint scheme preview,
a couple of of unique ones for this for this
round in Michigan. What do you like as you look

(01:10:24):
through these?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Guys? Boy, what do I like? I you know what
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go really interesting here. I'm
gonna pick me. I'm gonna pick me some Noah Gregson
in the number four Miller Electric. Okay, because very cool.
It's a very cool scheme.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Yeah, it is a good looking car. It has shades
of like the X side car.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Yes, yeah, very much so that in the old Rayovac
car that Jason Jarrett wrote in the books.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, yeah, good call, good call.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
With the with the Little Lightning Books. Honorable mentioned to
Denny ham One with the definitely I will take the
number seventeen Heinz Flavor Tour.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, it's like pink, right, it's a purple, yeah, purple,
like bright purple. Yep? Is that barbecue on the side
hold on chicken sandwich? With barbecue on top.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Let's get to this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
It's part of the new promotion from Hines where they
have three new flavor tours.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
This one is the the Korean inspired Sweet Tangy Barbecue.
Really yeah, and it is a chicken sandwich. Looks like
it's got some Asian Asian spic suit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Maybe maybe some slaw on top or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Yeah. And then they have another one that's a Mexican
inspired street corn sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Oh nice, I'm down with that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
And then they have a tie flavored sweet chili on
this flavor tour.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
So I'm sure we'll be seeing the purple this week,
the yellow in Mexico because racism and the orange of
the sweet chili probably soon or sooner or later for that.
But that's just the Oh look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
You can pick them up at Walmart and Target.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Oh yeah, anywhere you can get your craft.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yeah exactly, you know, not a limited edition. It's available anywhere.
We have Korean inspired sweet and tangy barbecue, straightcorn, and
sweet chili. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Yeah, things that you just said, exactly, Tommy. Anything you
want to keep cold.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
While they have like recipes you can make googe smash
burger taco. That cool smash burger taco. It's a burger taco.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
But that's ungodlike.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Crab rang gooon dip. All I'm down with that crab
ring goon dip.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Wow? Are you are you telling me a shrimp fried?
This rice? And then the truck series? Give me number
thirty four Lane rigs, the the chew, it's the little
Zinni packs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Oh there's zion Zen Zigons and yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Little impacts. What number thirty four?

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Thirty four? That's what I can't find?

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
The thirty clue?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
What the heck is the X Series? I missed the
X series.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Truck Series.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Oh, the Truck series, that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Yeah, there is no X Series this week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Oh yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Yeah right, I don't like that. All the flavors you
can get there, it's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Yeah, So now I passed the mic to you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Oh my goodness, what am I gonna go with here?
I feel like I should pick a truck you know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Yeah, so even though they they are such generic trucks,
they really really are. You can But it's also funny too,
because you look at the forty two, forty four and
forty five. They're all the same, it's the same truck.
But it's like, that's what we kind of want with liveries,
so right right, we're trying, we are trying to have
not only our cake but also eat it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Of those forty if I doesn't look the best of
that trio, yes, but I'm gonna go I'm gonna give
give me Jack Wood in the ninety one Adaptive one
caliber because I got some gold on there, and the
gold is not a color you see very often on
a car or a truck in NASCAR. So yeah, I'll
go with that one. And then let's move up to
the Cup Series, and I'm gonna go with Sorry, my

(01:14:23):
mouse is so loud as I scroll here, I gotta
pick two of these. Huh wow, it's kind of tough.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
So that was okay, one's the best one. I you
know what, I suppose I will go with with Chastain's

(01:14:52):
number one car, the bush Light Apple Chevy, even though
I just on principle alone, there should not be apples
in your beer. There just shouldn't be, and and beer
shouldn't be sour.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
So but but the car looks good. It's got bushel
of apples on. It's got some apples growing off the
side of it. The only thing I don't like about
that is that they obviously did the car and they
were like, oh, guys, it's a little bit tough to
read the bush light on the side of the car
when it's red, and so they just like did like
they used photoshop in the magic wand tole and they

(01:15:22):
just like clip the white logo and just like popped
it on there with the background and everything. It looks
like a five year old did it. But the rest
of the car is good looking. And then the other one,
I think I'm gonna go, and i't. I hate keep going.
I hate continuing to go to the till on the
uh on these cars, the trackhouse cars. But give me

(01:15:47):
the eighty eight chamb In Ginsberg and the safety Culture
Chevy because it's purple. Sure, and I like the purple
and it's purple and like ice blue up in the front.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah, they'll take that one, all right. But I always
ended up going like eighty eight ninety nine one. Yeah,
sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Yeah, it's fine, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
So, like you said last week, I won the bet.
Who's this?

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I bet it was Catherine leg.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Oh my gosh, I don't even know what happened. This
is going to be very, very surprising to me. What happened.
That means another of us want it was a push.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Uh yeah, we can, we can push it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
We should buy it because I think I picked her
the finish lower, didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
I You picked her to finish thirty six. I picked
her to finish thirty eighth.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Oh okay, yeah, but I mean she didn't even make
the race, and then that was a valid option that
we could have picked. Yes, indeed, so I'm willing to
make that a push.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Because because I had made that Intalla date a few
weeks back.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah, exactly, So the board resets. We tried to do
it again in her.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Next race, Yes exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
She got like two more coming up, I think, so,
I think so, yeah, we got more opportunities to do that.
All right, So we get to miss again. How many
cars we have in Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
By the way, hey listen, it's not about how many
cars are in the race. It's about the friends we
made along the way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Exactly. We got no extras. Huh six thirty six, You
and I and Catherine could all show up and make
the fricking race. Why is Catherine leg She's got sponsors, right,
she's got the self thing. Why is she trying to
qualify for Infinity races when there's a chance you could
the NQ, which you could just simply show up here,

(01:17:29):
just show up and be slow as crap and still
make the race.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
You want her on Michigan?

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Well no, but I'm just saying enough of her Talladay
game from her perspective, like, why would you keep banging
your head against the wall in the Infinity series when
you could just show up and waltz in here?

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, I get it, But I don't
know that's something you'd have to talk with her and
and BJ McCloud about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I guess so. So you've got the entire field to
choose from for this one. Ford has dominated here, but
I think the last one Tyler Redick one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Yeah, you know what you could largely you could gano it. Yeah, No,
I'm I'm gonna I feel I feel bold, I'm feeling
my feeling, myself feeling old. I've lost the last four weeks,
you've been domb'ven own a hell of a run. But
I gotta I gotta go with this guy, and I

(01:18:26):
think it's because he's been so craptastic this year and
he always runs well at Michigan. Give me breade his
last Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Okay, all right, all right, I I I hope you're right.
I would like to see that. I think it will
be very exciting to see Bride win a race. Man,
Who am I gonna pick? Am? I gonna pick?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Am?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I gonna pick? Give me you know what, let's go
in nuts. And since he is like the wounder kid
right now, give me a wholes of bar. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
No, he was, he was. He was on my radar too,
because it's a hometown race for him. Yeah, he's a
Michigan kid, So I mean, yeah, yeah, let's see what.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
He can do. How is it? How do we have
a side that when there's only thirty six cars in
the race?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
So I think we don't. Yeah, I think I think
we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do? Like
Cody Ware or something like that. I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
I think he's in the race.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yeah, No, he's in the fifty one. Yeah, Jacob, Jacob
is on the car. Car just says Jacob on the side.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
God, bless.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yeah, I don't even know. I don't even know who
we go with there. I mean we we could pick
our favorite among the j all the JF racing. Man,
let's just I wouldn't even know. I would just have
to guess it random.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
We would have to we would have to look at
the back at the end of it. It's just like, oh,
what happened here? Sorry? Last last week Denny Hamlin had
the fastest lap. Ryan he led the most laps.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Oh okay, all right, well that makes sense. And actually
we can't even do the JF Electric as a side
bet because you got Matt Mills in one, You've got
Caden Honeycut in the other. Those would be two great
ones if we knew anything about them to choose between.
But Ross Chesstain is in the third one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
So yeah, that is me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah, so makes makes no sense to pick between the
three of those. It says here on on NASCAR Dot comment,
it's Chestain on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
The entry list. He's in the number seven Delaware Life
car or the truck. Oh really, that's weird, Matt Matt
Mill Oh sorry, no, I'm sorry, I'm on I got
my head on coast of ar Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Oh Yeahstvar is in the number seven. Yeah, oh wow,
Hostavar and uh Ross Chesstain in that race.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Interesting and Frankie Munis.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Oh is he? And and oh and by the way,
since we're talking about the truck series, shout out DC's
own Rajah Caruth for winning in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Yeah, big win for him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Very nice second win in the truck Series.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Hell yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
So for the second year in a row, he's going
to be in the playoffs. That's that's great man. All Right,
So if you want to find out who wins the bet,
who wins the non existence side bet, who wins the race,
and if it was any good, because you're probably not
gonna watch it, then come back next week. We'll talk
about it. We'll tell you what happened. I'll give you
an update on the NASCAR lawsuit if there is any,
and I'm sure there'll be a bunch of other stuff
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Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Yeah, I don't know why they're still small.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Man, oh man, I'm gonna pills for that, brother. You
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Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
You can go to any social media at in the
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and then there you go. We've done it all. So
that's it. That's all for Wilson. I want to take
care yourself and someone else has been in the draft
with Wilson. It was a history lesson for you. Focus
as we are officially closer to twenty fifty than we

(01:22:14):
are to two thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Oh my goodness, don't say that out loud.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Just did man, Oh my gosh. This day in nine
thirteen Constantine, the seventh, eight year old illegitimate son of
Leo the Leo six the Wise, becomes the nominal ruler
of the Byzantine Empire under the regency of a seven
man council headed by patriarch Nikolas Mysticios, appointed by Constantine's

(01:22:41):
uncle Alexander on his deathbed. So a young, illegitimate son
becomes a ruler of an empire.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Wow. And then they named the city after him until
Bob Istanbul came in and took it over.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
That's that's Constantinople.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Yeah. Yeah, what's his first name?

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Constantine?

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Yeah, but this this guy, like what was his first name?
First name?

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
I don't know, Constantine.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Oh, so Constantine. They made Constants noble. But then Bob
Istanbul came in and took over the town from him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Wouldn't that be It's done bullning?

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Okay, maybe it was Bob istan and then they named
it Istanbul after.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Him instead of they might be giants. Show you're gonna
went with a Keanu Reeves joke.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Oh really he was Constant Constantine.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Yeah, we know what workshop it will do it later
exactly because there's probably more Constantine stuff. He was the seventh,
for Christ's sake, it's gonna be the sixth. More crap. Interesting.
Sixteen fifty four Swedish Queen Christina abdicated her thrown thrown
in favor of her cousin, Charles Gustav and converted Catholicism.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
We go figure.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Interesting, interesting situation there, the y MCA. It's found in
this day in eighteen forty four in London, in London,
who knew London Town? Wow, that's a bad one. The
Chicago l Elevated Rail System begins operation this day in

(01:24:11):
eighteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Wow, that's pretty long ago.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Yeah yeah, still stelling things in there today.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I think they're still using the same cars.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Yeah, that's the problem. Nineteen twenty five, the original Chrysler
Corporation was founded by Walter Chrysler from the remains of
the Maxwell Motor Company. Oh wow, this day in nineteen
thirty three, the first drive in theater opens in Camden,
New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Wait, so that the subway was around before driving theater?
Go figure?

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yeah, how wild. That's not a good one. That's a no,
that's not a good one either. A lot of bad
things happening on this day. About flights falling apart, Oh no,
I don't want to know about that, crashes near air hoards. Yeah,

(01:25:02):
it's SpaceX gross. Happy birthday to uh of course, everyone's
favorite English historian, author, and poet, Henry Nubolt, bored in
this day in eighteen sixty two, was the government advisor
as well. Was best remembered for his poems Vital Lampada

(01:25:24):
and Drake's Drum. And then Kendrick just shat all over it. Yeah,
I think so he went and the only they went
for the weekend, enjoy the race at Michigan, and then
come back again to us and we'll talk all about
it till then. Peace.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Thanks for listening to. In the draft with Wilson and
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