Bubba Wins a Big One, Childress Goes Full Conspiracy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
At this time poking like hell now coming down.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson and was
I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. You meanwhile, right
across your inn from your beautiful studio by the bay,
version two point zero. It is, mister scottiss what's happening
in there? Wat was? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, let me tell you something, brother man, Man, that
was That was a brickyard. You know what I will
say this, m given, I think I think I'm gonna
take Kevin Harvick's lead here Catherine Legg hell of a
performance at Indy.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean it's it was bound
to happen.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I guess right, you'd think, But I mean, I don't think.
I don't think in this in this car, there was
much hope. But you got the most. You got the
most out of it. And it all comes down to
seat time. And you know, the more seat time she gets,
the more it's up there. I mean, does it stay consistent?
Who knows who's to say. But at the same time,

(01:10):
I mean, good, you gotta as much as you'd like
to rip on, somebody got to give credit where it's
too and she had a great top twenty performance for herself.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, you know. And I kind of wonder because she
did finish on the lead lap too, and I kind
of wonder if that helps because that place is so
big that it's hard to go a lap down. And
that was her main problem is once she would kind
of get into traffic and get a lap down, then
she just wanted to kind of get out of everybody's way.
And then that's what ended up causing problems because you
gotta go, man, you can't just slow down. There's no

(01:39):
way to get out of everybody's way at a you know,
three quarter mile track or a half mile track, so
here two and a half mile track. You know, with
her being on the lead lap and not feeling like
she's getting in somebody's way necessarily she's actually racing. I
wonder if that helps out a little bit. It might
might not.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, she also had to come through the to the
field too, like she started thirty eight. Oh yeah, okay,
she had a runaway through the field, finished in seventeen
seventeen thirty eight. Yeah, baby, as us as the kids say,
you know, little you know, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And she does not appear to be on. No, she's
not on the the entry list for this week. Joey
Gase is your only addition, which is a bummer. I mean,
you know, after a good performance to then go on
to a track that is smaller might be a good
thing for a driver without a lot of experience like that.
You've got the momentum, now you've got the comfort level.

(02:34):
Translate that to a smaller track where you've had problems
in the past. And when I said, I mean smaller
tracks in general, and maybe you end up, you know,
making a little bit of a breakthrough, taking a step forward.
But she's not going to get that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean also too, it gets back to your
to your thing about if she falls behind a lap,
then yeah, it's hard for her to get back into it.
And it's more she'd be more prone to doing that
at the well for sure, iowae that you know, whether
perseverance or otherwise, you know, it is what it is.
But yeah, it kind of kills momentum. But also it's like,
all right, well, we don't have to kill our momentum

(03:07):
by ourselves. It just gets killed because the money's not.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
There, right, right, right, But Bubba man. He came through.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Big, big win, especially when you have two overtimes like that.
I'm starting to think that the the gas mileage is
a myth these days, I.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Know, right, because he had plenty enough to go back
around and then do a big gas burnout. So I
don't know, maybe the crew chiefs kind of sandbag on
that a little bit to make everybody else think, oh, well,
they're not going to run that hard. All you have
to do is kind of chase them down when they
really can run that hard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And I think also when you look at it, you
look at it that way, it's just like we've had
a couple where it's just like I might come down
to gas and then he hamm on a couple of weeks.
Yeah yeah, and it didn't and he also had a
big ass burnout now after the fact be pushed back,
but whatever. But I mean, it could also be just
trying to psych other teams out, just saying, make other
teams waste or fuel or whatever and and and see

(04:02):
how much they're at. But I mean, in the grand
scheme of things, big win for him, doesn't have to
worry about the bubble these days. Big weekend for him
starting outside poll. Uh. He likes these big tracks. He
cannot lie. Uh. And then next thing, you know, Victory
Lane for the the the Chumbu Casino, which boy, uh,

(04:22):
these open cars, these open cars has to get all
kinds of crazy sponsors. It's weird a small team like this,
an open team without a charter, can charge up to
the front and get a win. NASCAR is going to
make sure that people know that in court because it's
going to be a big strong thing for the defense, like, hey, look,
you want a race and he was an open team.
I don't know what to tell you. We're done a monopoly.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah you know that NASCAR is going to try to
do that too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh absolutely. The minute that checker flag drop, they're just
wringing their hands like, yes, yes, this is what he
wants in the court room.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
You know, it's interesting because Bubba totally wears his motions
on his sleeve. And I think that some people, I mean,
they are always haters out there, especially for somebody like
Bubba Wallace, but I think some people were like thinking
that maybe he was like overdoing it, like he was
seeming like too dramatic when he got out of the

(05:15):
car and a victory lane. But I mean the two
things that I would say to that are number one,
it's consistent, like that's how he always is. He's his
own biggest critic. And so the finally like breakthrough and
get that whin, I'm sure it genuinely had that effect
on him. And he's just as like he's just as
transparent in terms of his emotion when he does poorly

(05:35):
or even when he perceives he does poorly. He could
finish fifth and he'll get out of the car and
look like he's you know, like like somebody kicked his
dog or something like that. But then at the same time,
it was also the freaking brickyard man. And so any
driver is going to be like over the top when
they win a race that's that big and that consequential,
even if nobody was there to see it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, And I think that all the adversity and I
guess I guess unsuredness that the seasons brought to twenty
three to eleven Bubba and everything like that, I'm sure that's
got a weigh on him too, on top of having
a young family and and and worrying about all that
as well. I mean, he's set up. I think he,
you know, his talent will outweigh whatever job he loses,

(06:18):
he can gain it back. But at the same time,
it's kind of one of those deals where it's just
like the weight off his shoulders because I think for him,
I think he because there is so much spotlight thrown
onto him as a younger driver in teams that weren't
as good patty enterprises, he has to prove himself more
so when he doesn't do that, he's he kind of

(06:41):
almost braces himself even if he finish his top five,
he braces himself for the criticism, unjustly or otherwise that's
going to be keeped going to him. And I think
he takes he wears his if nothing else, he wears
his hard on his sleeve, and one of the few
guys who do that, and it hasn't really changed necessarily
like some other guys may have, no not at all.

(07:02):
But I think I think, you know, for him to
get this, it's a big it's a big weight off
his shoulders and now he can focus on the playoffs
or you know, just what's ahead for him and what's
going to go on with that and how to just
navigate around it. Because he's got a couple more races
where they can just tune things up before they have to.
They don't have to worry about Aytona now be in
the cut. That's true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, and we'll talk about the standings here in a minute.
This was a really big win, for a well timed
win for Wallace to get into the playoffs when he
was I don't know if he saw right when he
got out of the car and then his wife and
brought the kid out and everything, there was a lion
king moment there. It was a little weird, that's all.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's like a crowd.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Here's the baby, show, what's the baby? They all responded,
So I guess it went overwhell. But for me it
was a little odd.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, no, it's kind of bizarre, but I get I
think you just kind of show something off. It's not
a trophy in the in the actual metal sense, mister trophy.
Just like I had sex and I did it. Look, guys, listen, hey,
everybody who doesn't like me, here's another thing that you
can hate. Eat it out exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I think it was just kind of like he heatd
the moment thing they handed this baby. You don't know
what to do with it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, the tens of people.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
What's overlooking like it's the first time he's ever held
a baby. He was carrying that baby because he was
carrying it like his face was away from him and
he was like carrying it out in front of him
like it was a kettlebell. That is exactly how I
would carry a baby if I had a baby to carry,
because I had because I that's like that would be
my whole thing. I'd be like, oh, I got to
keep it like about eight to ten inches away from me.
Uh here, guys, look and then I give it back.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
You gotta get out of splash ring. It's like a
Gallagher show exactly. But I mean the tens of people
that were there, I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh my gosh, were their goods heats still available or what?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Boy it? And Jeff Gluck, God God bless him trying
to defend it, saying that people are it was hot
out there, that s their weather. They had to get
out the awnings. No one can see that whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Man, there were tarps. There were tarps on the front
stretch right by the start finish line, like those should
have been prime tickets. And it said they had those
seats tarped off.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, it was. It was like it was like the
Major League Baseball game in the East Coast today, just
everywhere exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
There was so so much of the grand stand was
already covered and it was still sparse. And I know
people are like, hey, two hundred and fifty thousand people
fit in there, And we talked about that. We were like, hey,
you could have seventy five thousand people there, but in
a place that holds two hundred and fifty, it still
only looks like a third full or quarter full. I
don't think they had that many, but they had so

(09:39):
many plate sections tarped off and it still looked empty
that it's that's the tough part about running the oval
at the Brickyard is that, you know, with NASCAR's heyday
in terms of ticket sales being over, like, I don't
know exactly how you do that and make it look okay.
I don't think there is a way to make it
look okay in that respect.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, it's it's a terrible. It's a terrible race track
to even like if if you're not a premier event
or you're not like a once in a lifetime kind
of event. You're not going to get the people and
that and that's that's just the way it goes. Yeah,
and rightly or wrongly, you have to point it out
because it's it's going to be noticeable. It was very

(10:22):
noticeable on the inside on the pit lane when they
were handing over, it was very noticeable that there was
no one in the stands. And there could have been.
There could have been seventy five thousand people there, but
I mean even seventy five thousand people, that is a fraction, yeah,
as fraction of what you have there. And yeah, it's
just it's just not it's not good optics. But I
don't know how you can make good optics there unless

(10:44):
you just pay for the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, or just like let everybody in for free
or something like that. They couldn't they could conceivably do that.
They could let everybody in for free and then just
live off the concession sales. Because if you just threw
the doors open and anybody in the area could just
come and go to the race, like you would get
you probably get one hundred and fifty thousand people, and

(11:06):
what would what would get them? More fifty thousand ticket
sales plus concessions or one hundred and fifty thousand people
buying concessions. I don't know what the answer to that
really is, but it feels to me like if you
just did it, if you just like were like, hey,
come on in, anybody who wants to this is like
our way of giving back to the NASCAR fans that
you might be able to pull in just as much

(11:28):
money as you would selling tickets to forty thousand and
fifty thousand people.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things where it's
just that it's hard. I don't know what you do,
And that's what the NASCAR is looking for right now
and trying to get people back to the roots. This
coming up one ad age today as NASCAR is searching
for a lead creative agency to help steer the stock

(11:53):
car racing circuit back to it's heart land roots and
reconnect with blue collar fans.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, so let's talk about that for a second. Number one,
maybe we should try number two. It's the second half
of that thing. So the first half of that thing
is like, I agree, they need some sort of agency, right,
they need somebody to come up with some fresh ideas.
But is the right. Course, like what they've tried to do.

(12:19):
I'm sorry to skip, like stop in the middle of
my sentence there, But what they tried to do in
the wake of like the last generation car and we
saw everything start to curtail in terms of ticket sales,
in terms of viewership, and they're like, oh, we're gonna
get back to our roots. Man, We're gonna race it
rocking Ham, We're gonna do the dirt track at Bristol,

(12:39):
you know, all that stuff. Even the Bowman Gray thing
that they did this year. All of those things were
focused on appealing to their quote unquote roots, to their
old school fans, right, and it didn't work. It hasn't worked.
I mean, we'll talk about the numbers here for a
TNT in a second. It's not working. It's not increasing viewership,

(13:03):
and it's sure as hell is an increase in ticket sales.
So is the right focus there? I think that's one
hundred percent the thing they should do to get an
outside agency to say, here are some new ideas, here's
what you guys should try now. But should their focus
be that same old tired thing of let's try to
appeal to the base again, let's try to appeal to

(13:23):
these old school fans again, because that's what it felt
like from that description. And I don't know if they're
gonna I don't know if there's being a dead horse
at this point.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, well, well, chief chief officer of we don't
have a marketing team on our own that can do this. Yeah,
and Clark said, the governing body has got eleven agency
currently in the hunt for the business that will likely
debut around the dayto on five hundred and twenty twenty six.
Clark says passed efforts to reach younger and newer fans
may have caused us to lose our way with our

(13:51):
core fans. He says the new agency. To help of
the new agency, NASCAR aims to plant the flag and
really signify who we are as a brand, trying to
find things, trying to be all things rather than trying
to be all things all people. Plans are fully embraced
the core audience while still finding authentic ways to engage
younger fans. Now Here is what the kids like to
call a giant red flag. NASCAR's renewed focus on its

(14:18):
American roots comes amid a broader surge and nationalistic sentiment
during the Donald Trump presidency, Clark said on NASCAR's positioning
is not tied specifically to any change in administration. It is, Yeah,
focus on Americana is authentic to the brand, which I
can't understand. But NASCAR is still determining how the brand

(14:40):
is going to brand positioning will come to life. So basically,
they're going to hire an agency of grifters to steal
their money and not do anything about it.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
There's gonna be meme coins, they're gonna be cell phone plans,
they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Be just bathing the gold Nascar shoes.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
As you were reading that, that's all I was thinking, is, oh, oh,
what they're saying is they're going to lean into the administration,
which at this point in time may not be the
smartest thing to do.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But okay, well it's Nascar. They don't know, Yeah, they don't.
They're in their bubble. They they're like, our core audience
are racist and they hated a mixed race baby being
held up like the lion king. So we got to
get away from that. Oh, Nascar is so far behind
the times. It is. It's astonishing that they found a

(15:29):
way to call this thing a next generation car, because
you would think they would go back to the old
things where they have whiskey barrels in the back and
they're actually have cops trying to chase these guys down.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And even what o'donnald was saying there was like.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well Donald was Tim Clark not even not even let's
not you know, there's plenty, there's plenty to harp one, Steve,
I just made this commissioner position for myself because I
want to feel special o'donnald, Right, But Tim, really we
don't have people to do this for us, to seeking
outside agency, Clark is the guy.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
To do this, gotcha. Well, I mean he was basically
admitting that they're being reactionary, right, and that they're basically
trying to cater to a trend, which is exactly how
they got in this position in the first place, by
their own emission. Like he was saying, oh, we were
trying to reach new audiences and younger audiences, and we
alienated our base. So what they were saying is we

(16:21):
were trying to follow a trend and it didn't work,
and so in response to that, we're going to try
to follow another trend and hope that that works instead.
I mean, they're literally just doing the same bullshit over
and over and it didn't work the first time. I
don't see how it's gonna work this time, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And as we get to the numbers on TNT, look
at the Amazon numbers. Yeah, the thing, the thing that
people that NASCAR doesn't like is that old person base
going away. Yeah, because they have the most disposable income,
because no one can afford anything these days. Because the
CEO of Dollar General just said, hey, the people who
are coming in here, they're just spending on essentials. We

(16:59):
don't know what's going on. And when Dollar General tells you,
is that that's not a good thing. Right, that's not
a good thing because Dollar General they'll they'll try to
put things at cost, but make things expensive. If they're
saying broke people aren't buying stuff, then boy, they're not
going to buy NASCAR tickets. It's going to be the
seventy five year old octagenarian people doing it exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
And maybe maybe that's what they're gonna try to double
down on. But yeah, you're right, the prime thing then
doesn't work for them. And let's talk about THO numbers
because I think it's a great bridge into that for
this particular race at Indy, which always gets a little
bit better numbers than you would expect, two point four
or five million. That's combined on TNT and True TV.
I still haven't turned on True TV during a race

(17:38):
to see what you got during that. While that is
TNT's largest audience in their five races, it also represents
the smallest audience ever for a brickyard event. I don't
know if that includes the Terrible World Course or not,
but it probably does. Last year, and we talked about
this last week, they did three point eight three million,
but that was on Fox, so you have to take

(17:59):
that with a grain of salt. But for the entire
five race TNT schedule, they averaged two point one million
per race, and Amazon Prime did two point five million
per RaSE. And we talked during that Prime stretch about
how they lost so much of that higher demo, so
much of that ancient population that's about to die, and

(18:23):
they gained so many younger fans. And NASCAR sees that
they have those numbers in front of them and they
can compare them to an exact five race schedule on
cable TV catering to the old guard, the old people,
they see the PRIME did better and Prime brought in
younger people, and they're like, yeah, f the younger people,

(18:45):
we need to focus more in these old people, Like
where I don't understand what their thought process is and
whether the thought process is correct or not. I feel
like it's not. I feel like PRIME proved something to
them that they consequently ignored or are in the process
of ignoring.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely it was ignored. I mean, there's
no doubt about that. I don't well again, I think
I think the number is low because it wasn't a
ten poll event for linear television it was or it
was it was or for like over the air television
people network people have cut the cord. Who knows where
TNT or true TV is if it's you know, and

(19:20):
maybe you know the Impractical Jokers audience is just like
I don't want to watch that exactly. So, I mean,
it's it's amazing the drop off first off from last
year to this year. That's huge drop off, even if
even with TNT, I mean you're pulling two you're pulling
two stations and you can't get close to that number
from last year. That's odd.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Roughly one point five million less mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
And and you look at just what Amazon Prime did
and everyone's so hyped about it, and they they I
you know, I don't know how when you have the
same crew, you have a lesson, you have four hundred
thousand less people watch.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, it's it's I think you're right. It's the cord
cutting and the accessibility and people know what Prime is
and a lot of people have it. Not everybody, but
a lot of people do. And and yeah, I think
that they're that that they had an example of increasing
accessibility in a in a way that people are actually

(20:21):
using media right now, consuming media right now right in
front of them. And they're like, oh, yeah, we need
to like we need to get you know, all American
Beer to be the sponsor of the series, and you know,
tell everybody that every race is going to be on
TNT in USA or something like that. Is USA is
still around, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, they have the race this weekend. Oh they do, Okay,
they certainly are.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's it's USA Sports, So it's going to be on USA,
you know, and they're gonna have like I mean, we're
going to Iowa. They're gonna have like two point one
two point two million people watching.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh if that, yeah, I think you can go under two.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Are people even gonna be able to find it? I
think you might be right. We might go under two
because it's he had another network switch.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yep, another network switch and another race. That's kind of
you know, Iowa doesn't have the heat that at all period.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, no, it doesn't, especially with races like Daytona coming
up and the Glenn coming up and so yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
By the way, shout out to the Xfinity race second
highest motor sports viewership last weekend.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
The rate we're going, especially with how insanely awesome Connor
Zelich is, there could be an Exfinity race that actually
out like out does the Cup race and viewershop.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I don't know about that. I'm not going to go
out on that limb, but I will say it might
come close. I mean that what the seed. That what
NASCAR has done, the only good thing they've done this
year with media or two things. One going Amazon. I
think that was a big boom for them. Two just
strictly on CW one network for the damn Infinity series.

(21:59):
Exactly what you need reason, no reason to have multiple
networks and switch back and forth during the season have
the one thing makes your everyone knows when the race is,
everyone knows what channel looks on. There's no jumping around,
there's no gaessing, boom, You're good, awesome, love it. Continuity
is great.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
So it really is a bummer that they've gotten off week.
So they are racing at Iowa, and then we've got
the Glen and the Glenns. I think Glenn's gonna do well.
It's on Sunday for the Cup Series. I think it's
gonna do pretty well. Then they're off during Richmond weekend.
Then they're back on for Daytona, right, and Daytona's gonna

(22:41):
do well because it's Daytona. Both the Daytona race and
more importantly, the Richmond race the week before it are
on a Saturday for the Cup Series, and so I
think that could have been the opportunity the Saturday in Richmond,
not because it's a bad track, it's a great track,
but nobody effing watches Saturday night races in Richmond, and
so that could have been the opportunity if there was

(23:02):
a well, no.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Because Xtinity would have been on Friday night.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, but I think that a Friday night race on
X might have been able to get close to the
number of a Saturday night race in Richmond for Cup
maybe close.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Could have could have gotten there, but we'll stay. You
never know.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
They should do like for something like Richmond, they should
do a double header. I mean, the attendance isn't going
to be great, right, so if you sell one ticket
you get both races, You're going to sell more tickets
to begin with, and then you can leverage that Saturday
day when people are expecting the Xfinity race set like
that series and then the Cup. People who are shown
up early for the Cup race might be like, oh,

(23:40):
I'll just watch some of the X race. I think.
I think in a situation like that, a day night
double header would be a fantastic idea that NASCAR will
never do well.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
They try to do that with with having qualifying before
the X races, where if you get the qualifying ticket
or if you get an X ticket, you just watch
qualifying when people actually want to qualify.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know, but I want a double race, man, I
want race and then race. I want the X Series
and with the Cup Series at a place like Richmond
on a Saturday night. I think it would be fun.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, No, that's too much. And you understand how long
these races are. Stop that well, obviously got to get
there in on Rico County at twelve thirty a last
three UNDERTISA.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I know that's problem. If you have any kind of delay,
you're aft, man, You're just done.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Perfew and you know Richmond always has delays.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well shut out NBC by the way, and I know
we talked about this, but having four races on the
big network.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, no, for for.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Just the Daytona Cut race, then two thirds of the playoffs. No, no,
you're not going to watch it on the big network.
You get the final three races. That's it.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Whatever part of the seven billion they put in, they
really went all.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Oh they did go on and didn't they? Geez? Good
lord man. All right, so standings and this is really
important when it comes to the race last weekend with
Bubba Wallace in the victory at the Brickyard Chase, Elliott
stays in the point lead. And pay attention to this
because we only have what four races to go, oh,
including Iowa, and if you win the regular season you

(25:06):
get max bonus points heading out. I think he's like
ten or something, and they, you know, they parade it
down from that. So Chase Elliott is in the lead
by four points over William Byron, Kyle Larson is only
fifteen points back in third, and the Denny Hamlin is
only twenty points back and forth. One race could change

(25:27):
all of that, you know, if somebody has a good
run and does well in the stages. So you've got
the top four drivers in the sport right now, separated
by twenty points. Christopher Bell, who of course has three wins,
is fifth. He's sixty two points behind, not out of it,
but you know, he's got three really good guys that
he would have to gain a lot of ground on
the rest of the top ten, Reddick Blaney, Briscoe Bowman,

(25:48):
and Chris Busher. But Chris Busher is important because as
we look at the bottom of the top sixteen, we
still have the same three drivers outside the top sixteen
to have won a race, and that's been Cindric Barry
and SVG for a while now. And so that means
because Bubba Wallace wins, and that he used to be
the cut line at thirteen and the guys right around

(26:10):
him have wins, that jumps the cut line all the
way up to Busher. In tenth, and he's forty two
ahead of the next guy in the points, which is
fourteenth place Ryan Prees. He's twenty one behind Alex Bowman,
who is in ninth in the championship. I mean again,
that's a decent number of points between Busher and Priest,

(26:30):
but that is definitely not invincible. I mean that in
and of itself could go away in a week, but
especially when you've got four races left to go, nobody
there is safe. None of those guys I just mentioned
are safe. And Tyler Redick I don't have the points
in front of me. I think he's up by over
one hundred, so he's probably looking pretty good as long
as he doesn't like self destruct in terms of getting

(26:52):
into the playoffs. But he also has to worry about
whether we get sixteen winners because Bubba Wallace is the
thirteenth winner of the year with four races left to go,
one of those races Watkins Glenn, and one of those
races Daytona. If there's a saving grace for Tyler Reddick,
it's that right now there are three spots on points
in the playoffs and only two races where just about

(27:15):
anybody could win.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, one eight for Tyler.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, right, so that's a decent cushion. But he's got
a hope that we don't get a first time winner
at either Richmond or Iowa, because if we do, then
he's got to sweat it out over both the Glenn
and especially Daytona.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's not a good time. That's not
a good time for anybody involved. But yeah, I think
you're looking at it now. I think you just have
to race your races at this point, right, I mean,
I mean Watkins, Glenn and Daytona are the biggest, biggest
factors here overall. So you just got to focus on
racing your race because the minute you start getting in
your head, oh no, this is you know, we got

(27:53):
to do this, this or this or we're screwed. Yeah,
so it's when things go south, that's when it's when
you start to start making things.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
That's so great, Bob, especially Reddick has the space to
not have the points race, but he's You're right, he's
got to put that out of his head because if
he makes a mistake then he's going to be right
back in there with Bowman and Busher, and I would
not want to be Bowman or Busher. Right now, with
the races you just mentioned, the Glenn and Daytona coming up,
knowing that there's possibility that only one guy might get

(28:20):
in on points.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean, you just have to You just have
to focus. You can't. You control what you can control.
They say that a lot in therapy. So just control
what you can control.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'll say this for Bowman and Busher. When it comes
to the Glen, they're both going to be the biggest
fan of Sveg. Ever, They're gonna be like, oh, yeah,
do it Man, because if I can't win, I will
rather have you.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Win exactly, please, for the love of God. Win.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
But but either of those guys have the capability of
winning races. Bowman or we're Reddick for that matter, Any
of those three guys capability of winning.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
It's just a matter of actually doing it, which a
lot of these guys have had just crappy luck. Oh,
especially Tyler Reddick just yeah, he had bad.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Luck in he had bad luck in India as well
this weekend, this past weekend. All right, so let's move
on to the NASCAR news. Stuart Freezing, did you see
that wreck?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Oh that was and not so much off the wall
is traffic coming through.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I know. I mean the part of that Stuart Freezing
wreck that made like the highlights was the fact that
he hit the top of the wall the car catches
on fire. But it was what happened after that he
got run into by somebody else, and you know it,
this really sucks. I mean, he was just doing a
dirt race in Quebec because he's from Canada, so he
was back home, having fun, just running a race. He

(29:36):
does it all the time apparently, and gets in this terrible,
terrible wreck, breaks his pelvis in multiple places, breaks at
least one leg. He's gonna have multiple surgeries to fix it.
The guy had just won a couple of races ago
in Michigan, so he was gonna be in the playoffs.
But there is no chance, no chance he's coming back this.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Year, Oh dude, zero percent. I don't know if he
ever gets back into a race car. If he does,
it's gonna be a long time. I mean, it's a
pelvic fracture like that, especially in multiple places on top
of your leg being broken like that, I mean, you're
gonna have to be pinned up and played it up
and things like that. It's just gonna be uncomfortable to raise.
I mean, it's not so much of just not to
mention the mental aspect of it, just the physical aspect

(30:20):
of having to having to sit there and be in
a confined space again and and all that, and just
having to sit there and your body's just not comfortable
and your head's not comfortable. It was a vicious, vicious
hitt and I mean, thank god he's okay. I mean,
be quite honest with you that that could have been
much much worse. But sure, I think that, you know,
the big thing is what's going to happen, how the

(30:43):
surgery is going to be. He got transported back to
New York State where he is taking other surgeries in
the Level one Trauma Center. So a big, big, big relief,
but a big road back definitely for Stuart Freeze and
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, it's a bummer, and it does it should I
think make car owners think a little bit, at least
a little bit longer about their drivers doing other series
like that. I know a guy like Kyl Larson loves
to do. Actually, there are quite a few cup drivers
that like to go dirt racing in their spare time.

(31:18):
And you think, oh, well, they're really good drivers. I mean,
you know they're gonna be okay, weird stuff on what happened.
But Stuart Freezing was a really good dirt driver too,
and I mean he was just you know, he was
just on the outside trying to make a pass and
just clip the wall and next thing you know, you know,
the car's going crazy. And so yeah, if I'm you know,
if I'm Rick Kendrick, I'm like, maybe maybe Kyle just

(31:40):
like chill out for a little bit, mean, like, forget
about this for a while.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Well, here's the thing, and this is just me, is
that this would be something that NASCAR wakes up to
and realize, hey, we need to pay our drivers in
the lower divisions a lot better so they don't have
to go out there and make ends meet doing other
tracks and doing other series and and and have have
such a huge risk at something like this. I mean,
we saw it with Alex Bowman had something that happened

(32:07):
to him, uh during a dirt race. I mean, the
whole Tory's Tony Stewart drama. There's been there's been a
lot of things happening outside of the NASCAR sphere that
really damages these drivers and I mean the guys that
we mentioned, you know, Larson and Elliott and Bowman and everybody,
like they don't need the money. A guy like Stuart
Freeze and just like, yeah, I need this money. I

(32:29):
can and I can understand, Like, dude, of course you're
making pennies in the truck series. So why wouldn't NASCAR
try to drum up interest and say hey, we need
to Oh and I know why they're not going to
because you know, like the you know, it's just like
the money.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, just like twenty three eleven and FRM, they're like, oh,
we give a guaranteed spot the race. We just want
our money. We don't want to give give that to you.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
We don't want to give you this money. It's pure
capitalism and it's and it's pure form. But I mean,
you would think that they would just drum up talent.
And the owners are going to want to protect their investment,
understand that. But at the same time, it's just like, man,
you're not paying them enough to want to stay around
and hang out and not take these risks and stuff
like that, because you know, they have families defeed and mortgages,

(33:11):
debay and everything like that. So for sure, it's it's
a rough spectrum in terms of, you know, what owners
can and can't do. I mean you can say that
to Kyle Urson, you can say that Dallax Bowman. They
have big, multi million dollar contracts, whereas you know, guy
like Stewart frees and sometimes race by race basis for
him at times. You know, it's yeah, it's a tough
it's a tough kind of thing to maneuver around, and

(33:34):
it stinks that the severity of this injury is what's
kind of sparking this debate once again. It's just like
should they shouldn't they? How can they protect this that
and the other?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, I think you're I think you make a fantastic
point about the drivers in Lower series, you know, just
not making a whole lot of money. I mean we've
talked about the you know, the purse for for races
at lower in the Lower Series, it's a fraction of
what the Cup Series makes. I'm speaking of Lower series.
Talk about this Austin Hill thing. Okay, so this happened

(34:03):
on Saturday. The short version is at Austin Hill and
Eric Almrola where I mean they were going back and forth,
they were making contact with one another. Elm Rolla got
Hill a little loose and Jill made a great save.
And then immediately after he made the save, I mean,
he just like just made a turn right into the

(34:25):
back of al Morola.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean he just hooked him in the right rear
and just left turned right into him, sent Almrolla into
the wall and the he was parked for five laps
after that happened, and apparently it was like cursing out
NASCAR on the radio while he was sitting there for
his five laps. I'm like, dude, if you don't want
to get like a bigger penalty, you probably just need
to keep your freaking mouth shut, right, But he couldn't,

(34:49):
and they threw the book at him. And he's sitting
this weekend and in all honesty, I mean, I know,
like Richard Childers likes to pride himself on being a
cantac Chris Dick and he was after this and was like, Oh,
it's not fair they're coming after us because we're a
blue collar team. No, dude, your your driver hooked a
dude into the fence like at a high speed track.

(35:11):
This is not rocket science. We've seen drivers get penalized
time after time for this. If your driver does that,
he's going to get penalized. And and well, I'll let
you tell me what you think of it first, and
then I'll tell you more of what I think.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well, I mean, it all goes into the side of
the ordeal that this has happened before with Austin Hill.
He's an entitled driver. He did this with Sheldon Greed
when they were teammates a few years back. Yeah, and
then got into it. It's just like he thinks he
you know, it's one of those things where he thinks
he's hot, he's a hot shit in a champagne glass,
but he's cold. Diarrheen anda Dixie cut he he does
he have wind? Sure, that's great for him, happy for him,

(35:47):
But does he does he need to be this entitled
and tried to, you know, hook people like he did. No,
absolutely not. It's it's one of those things where it's just, dude,
you got you got to learn if you ever want
to make it into the next next wrong of racing.
We see this now with Carson Hoosavar. They're the older
guys ain't gonna stand for that crap, right And they'll

(36:08):
get they'll give it just as good as they get it,
and probably gonna make life on you much more of
a living hell than you will make on them.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Oh for sure. Yeah, because if you piss off the
entire garage, and the entire garage is gonna race your
tough and and you won't be able to get by
anybody at that point. So so the I understand the
frustration right on the part of Austin Hill with Eric Almorla,
you're racing guy gets into you. You know, whether he

(36:35):
meant to or not is kind of irrelevant. You're gonna
be pissed, right, But you have to also and this
kind of goes to your point of if you want
to move up, not only do you have to learn
how to race people, but you also have to think
about the big picture. And he did not think about
the big picture at all. He was like, I'm pissed,
I'm taking this guy out, not realizing that the penalty

(36:59):
wasn't gonna be parking for five laps and the penalty
wasn't going to be sitting out Iowa. The penalty was
really going to be this playoff business because since he's
not going to be able to attempt Iowa RCR has
to apply for a waiver. Now NASCAR is going to
give him the waiver. I mean, they haven't indicated that
they wouldn't they're going to do it. But at the

(37:19):
beginning of the year they announced new rules. If you
miss a race for other than like a very very
narrow number of reasons, then you got to go by
the new rules that say that you seed all of
your regular season playoff points. They're gone. And not only

(37:39):
does he lose his playoff points, but he can't gain
any more playoff points between now and when the playoffs start.
And so here's a guy who won what he win
three races so far this year, he had twenty one
playoff points, which was one behind Justin all Guyer at
twenty two, and then Connor Zilla Cho's out at racing
out of his mind right now has twenty nine. So
not even that much more. That's twenty one points that

(38:01):
would go with him in every single round of the playoffs.
They're gone and he can't gain anymore. The only place
where he can gain playoff points now is in the playoffs.
And so that's the big penalty because when the round starts,
he's going to be ranked last, and he's gonna have
to find a way to get playoff points. And if

(38:21):
he can't, then even if he races well enough to
make it to the next round, he's automatically gonna be
ranked last again, and it's gonna get harder and harder
to make it to the championship race because he doesn't
have any he's not gonna any playoff points anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Well, well, hold on, run that back for me again.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
So he loses all his playoff points that he started
to see or that he's earned so.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Far, right right right, So they're gone.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So he's going to start the playoffs ranked last, despite
the fact that he has multiple wins.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Sure, but doesn't he lose it after too, he does
not pick up any more playoff points.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
He can pick up playoff points in the playoffs, but
only in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
So oh in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, So once the playoffs starts, playoffs start, then if
he likes, say, if he wins Bristol, right, then he
gets and he gets like five points or whatever for
winning Bristol, five up points. He could take that into
the round of eight and then into the championship race.
But if he doesn't then it doesn't matter how well
he runs the second round, he's gonna be last again. Yeah,

(39:27):
and so it's gonna make it even harder for him
to make it to the championship race because he's got
to get through. He's got to get through two rounds,
most likely being the last seed and starting off minimum
of twenty nine points behind Connors Zillich, minimum of twenty
two points behind the defending champion, Justin n Allagayer. That's
gonna be really really tough.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, good luck to him,
all the best to him. Yeah, and you bring it
on yourself, yeah exactly. Yeah, And that's my point is
a young driver, you got to think about that. You
got to learn to think about that stuff. And he's
gonna learned the hard way. They need to think about
that stuff because.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
He probably but not guaranteed, but he probably threw away
his chance to win a championship this year.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Probably, yeah, probably just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, So he certainly made a hell a lot harder
on himself. Will put it that.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Way all all himself, man, I mean, you can't look
in the mirror stupid exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
And then uh, and then the main reason that Richard
Childress was mad was because back at Circuit of the
America's Austin Sindric spun tied Dylan admitted that he spun
tied Dylan. And this is this is the classic example
of how Richard Childress and I'm sure it's going to
extend all of NASCAR with their new marketing thing is
just adopted that like current political philosophy of if I

(40:46):
say it's this way, that's how it was because he
in Indy said oh oh, basically said that NASCAR is
out to get them because they're a blue collar team.
And he was pissed off because as Austin Cindric hooked
tyed Dillon at Circuitive of the Americas and NASCAR quote

(41:06):
didn't do a damn thing to Austin Cindric, But that's
not the case. Austin Cindric got freaking fined and he
got fifty points taken away, which is more than Austin
Hill lost in this race. He didn't lose fifty points,
he didn't lose any points. He's gonna lose points in Iowa,
but he didn't lose any points in the race. So

(41:27):
Cindric was penalized and he's pissed off about him, you know,
spinning Tied Dylan, who doesn't even race for RCR. So
it's not NASCAR out for RCR because Ty Dylan races
for calig And then it was also in a low
speed section of a rogue course. And so I mean,
does that rise to the level of suspending a guy?

(41:50):
I think you could easily make the argument that no, Like,
if somebody hooks you and you don't spin into the
wall at you know, the Chicago Street course, you're probably
not going to get suspended, right, But if you hook
somebody into the wall of Kansas, you're gonna get suspended.
I mean it's not like NASCAR has been unclear about this.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
No, No, it's been very black and white. I mean
there's no shades of gray. It's just this is how
it is. This is how you need suspend it. Kyle
Larson for hooking Bubba Yeah, and and all this other stuff. So,
I mean, it's you look at it, it's it's it's simple.
It's not going after a blue collar team. Why would
they go after Richard Child.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I mean they've said, didn't they said Chase Elliott for
for hooking a guy.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I think they did maybe I'm thinking Chase Elliot rather than.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think Larson got hooked
and Bubba said yeah yeah. So, I mean they've suspended
people on much bigger teams than Boston Hill and RCR.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
So it's not your names.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
It's definitely not us against them thing, no matter how
much how much revision is history arc Richard Childers wants
to throw out there. Denny Hamlin's on a new contract.
I'm a I'm not surprised, but he's getting old.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, but he's still running.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Well, yeah, he has run great this year.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, I think, I think, I think, you know, you
see a lot of older, older drivers getting into you know.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Was he forty fours right now?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so I mean he won't he'll probably
end before he's fifty. Yeah, So, I mean it runs
runs him there. He kind of in the prime of
his racing gimmicks. So but good for him, solid spot
and he's gonna need that money for lawyer fees, so
it's a good plus as well.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Fun fact Catherine Legg one year older than Denny Hamlin.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Well, part of that's fun.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
It's just a fun fact.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
It's a fact.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Sorry fact, it's a fun fact. Like a fun fact
would be Catherine Legg's actually Denny Hamlin's niece. That would
that would be fun, would be a fun.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Fact, especially with her being British and everything, that would
be really.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Fun exactly and older. It's like, wait, how do you
become the niece? Well, it's a whole family.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
So there's that. Just announced today, a small a small
victory in small team drama for Legacy motor Legacy Motor
Club almoms called Legacy Motorsports. Sorry, Legacy Motor Club. They
got a successfully got a restraining order against Rickware Racing,

(44:23):
so they can't sell the team right now to TJ.
Pusher like everybody said they were going to, including Pusher
and Rickware Racing. It's only a ten day restraining order,
so for the next ten days they can't complete the
sale of the team to Pusher, with the understanding being
that within that ten day span there's going to be

(44:45):
a hearing, an official hearing about an injunction that would
potentially prevent Rickware Racing from selling any of their charters
until all this mess is figured out.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Good they shouldn't they should they should have this restraining
RYE it's it's not something that they should they should
have hanging in the balance just in case, like, uh,
we're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, I think that Unlike unlike the twenty three eleven
FRM versus NASCAR case, this one is a lot more
cut and dry in terms of the charter should not
move anywhere until all of this is figured out.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, with with everything up
in the air as it is, you can't you can't,
like morally and legally, I don't think you can do that.
That's that's some shady issue right there.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like Legacy is going to have
a problem. They didn't have a problem getting this temporary
restraining order, and I don't think that they're going to
have a problem getting an injunction to prevent the team's
sale until because this this should all be able to
be figured out in relatively short order. It shouldn't take
them like until the end of the year or something
to figure this this stuff out.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
We say that, Yeah, I know, true, say that, and
that only knows.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
That's true, but it shouldn't. In theory, we'll put it
that way.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Fighting that would you say, I said, in theory communism works.
But everyone's fighting that that's true.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
What else we got Mexico City, finito. I you know,
I'm not surprised by this, but I am surprised because
NASCAR made such a big deal about we want to
go international, you know, we want to we want to
look at Brazil, we want to look at Europe, we
want to look at England, and we want to look

(46:36):
at Canada. And then they go international and it was
pretty successful, I mean in terms of the hype surrounding it.
And NASCAR loves to capitalize on the hype. We saw
that with the Colisseum with bowm and Gray, with the
Bristol Dirt Rays, with a Rockingham thing, nor North Wilkesboro,
like they love to jump on the hype train and

(46:57):
then ride it until the gases all run out. And
yet they're bailing on Mexico City like right off the bat,
which I think is interesting and kind of goes against
what they're saying. Less this is the first step in
circling the wagons to this new marketing campaign of we
don't want we don't want furners up in here.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's I don't know if that's
necessarily the whole thing. But pretty sure it's closed.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah, pretty sure it's closed on what they want I.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Mean, and I mean Daniel Suarez is not returning, so
I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I know right they're committing to the bit, is.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
What you say. They're just like, man, we are all in,
let's go maybe.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, you know, I I think that I think that
it well, I mean, I get it because the idea
here is that they're going to go back to Chicago Land,
and so they get to keep that race in the
Chicago area and keep getting those fans to come out.
And at the same time, they are jumping on the

(47:58):
hype train when it comes to intermedia track and this
current car, and so I guess that is on brand
for them in terms of following the hype. And they
are so like over the moon about this San Diego thing,
which I didn't even put that on the list that
you know, teaser video and all that stuff, But we
can talk about that right now too. That I guess

(48:19):
there's no room, but they could have made room if
they wanted to. There are definitely tracks out there that
could go down to one race if NASCAR really wanted
to make Mexico City happen. I think they're losing an
opportunity by doing that because Mexico City is it doesn't
even matter if they sold it out this time or not.
That place has like twelve million people in it, Like
that was a vast audience that you're just leaving un tapped.

(48:42):
You were just turning around and walking away from.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, but at the same time, the stuff that happened
probably soured a lot of people. I mean, the just
the transportation to get down there. I'm sure as the
political climate gets, you know, heavier and heavier, you're gonna
see much more you know, reinforcement of this, that and
the other things acrossing the border probably won't be as easy.

(49:10):
I think. I think it's one of those deals where
it's just like we're gonna get ahead of the weather
a little bit here because it's probably better now than
the half to a month out from the race. Have
to switch change it as quickly as we do. So
I mean that that is probably I mean, politics, you know,
being what they are, that's probably one of the main factors.

(49:32):
As they're looking into that, they're just like, huh, okay,
we gotta we gotta get ahead of this because if
some guys go over there, and if we're especially if
our marketing team is about all about rah rah maga,
some of our guys might not come back. And you
just you say it in Jess, but you never know,

(49:54):
You never freaking know exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
The other interesting part about that is that obviously Chicago
Land has not been announced yet, although everybody's saying that's
what's gonna happen. The last time we talked about Chicago Land,
they were saying that it could cost millions of dollars
to renovate it to the point where you know, it
kind of matches the other tracks that have been keeping

(50:18):
up with the times. And obviously you can't do all
of that in the span of one year. I mean,
it will be less than a year until we had
that race, most likely. And so I will say this
to anybody who is thinking of going to Chicago Land
to watch the race, go and have fun. Expect the
experience to maybe not be quite up to the level

(50:40):
that you've come to expect from other venues. We'll put
it that way.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Maybe bring your own chair, yeah, probably not have a
grand stand.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Hopefully they will allow you to bring coolers in because
it's probably going to be a bit of a shit
show this first time around, until they have some time
to actually.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Fix it up. Yeah. Yeah, you're gonna have to. You'll
have to. You'll have to enjoy that.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
And then then of course they'll they'll say there renom
and then they'll pull some fake bs where they where
there's supposed to be some sort of old like moonshine
still under the stands, and then they'll give tours of
it for fifty bucks or something like that.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Sure got to raise the money somehow, exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
So, yeah, so Mexico City one hundred percent out Chicago
Land most likely back then, although it's not official. And
then then we get the San Diego thing and they
released that big promo and everything like that. I mean,
it was it was fun. I mean, they were trying
to do the top gun thing, and I don't know
if they nailed that, but you know, they they they

(51:36):
here's here's the thing. This is just me with that.
So I love the fact that they put some extra
effort in, right, because they were trying to make it
seem interesting and different and fun, and they did definitely
put time and effort and energy, and I think they
came out with a good product with that teaser video.
The flip side of that is that they then went

(51:57):
out of their way to tell us that that's what
they did. And I'm like, dude, just show us something
that's cool and different and fun, and then don't mess
it up by patting yourself on the back you know
about it, and showing us five behind the scenes videos
of how you made a freaking three minute commercial. I mean,
we know how commercial is made.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
We need content. I guess they don't have an ad
agency to point that content in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I mean, And and they came out with the behind
the scenes video one day. One day after they put
out the video, I'm like, dude, let it breathe, man,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
It gotta be. You have to have content always everything.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I'm like, it's not that awesome. It's not like, you know,
we're going behind the scenes in the New Fantastic Four
movie or something.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Like that, which I have really released files.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Really exactly, that's what we want to effing see.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, do it during the NASCAR. Oh my god, release
it at Iowa. No one's watching that. So we did
it when.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
During the Iowa race exactly exactly. But yeah, they could
do it at the Iowa race and nobody would see
it the best way to do it. But yeah, I
was like, oh man, this is this is fun, this
is different, this is cool. They're trying to like take
a different approach. I like this, And then like for
the rest of the week, they just congratulated themselves on
and I'm like, so stupid though it is. It really is.

(53:27):
Put out something solid and then let it. Let it
stand on its own.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Man, you need to ring little. They got to find
a way to get the France family out of there, Honestly,
I know, man, I'm.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Telling you, I do like the idea of having that
race on the military base for logistical reasons. Right, You're
not like effing up all of downtown in Chicago or
San Diego to be able to make this race happen.
And you can set it up in a way where
it more resembles a like a NASCAR style road course,

(53:58):
and then you're still gonna have the awesome visuals because
you'll be I mean, the cameras will be pointing right
across the harbor at San Diego, so you'll get those
great visuals. So it's a very indiecar way of doing it.
You know, just like not seeing Pete, but the one
that they do in Florida, which is at a old airport,
that same type of thing. I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Well, I know, I know Edmonton did that in the
Indie Grand Prix. Oh okay, yeah, Edmonton did it on
the old air air base. My question is, my question
is this, how is that going to work with? Is
that that's an active air base?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Right? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, how's that going to work with? With getting people in?
You're pretty sure you can't just yeah, you can't just
drive on in there, one in there.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah. My guess is that they're going to have to
have some sort of like special entrance or special perimeter
just for the NASCAR portion of things. It's a pretty
big base, and so they might be able to do that.
They might be able to isolate that section because yeah,
they can't just have anybody Willie and Elliot just driving
on the base. That doesn't happen anymore.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
No, no, no, no, so interesting and that's interesting logisticsly
you too, that they have to figure out.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, but as far as it's space to run a race,
they can kind of set it up how they.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Won, which is perfect.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah. Yeah, even though we're going to get some new
races on the schedule next year. What we will not
be getting, apparently, is a new, revised or updated playoff system. NASCAR,
after the whole Joy Lagano thing, put together an entire
committee of current former drivers, people you know, associated with

(55:25):
the sport and broadcast interests to try to come up
with a better system, and apparently they've kicked around a
lot of ideas but haven't necessarily agreed on one. And
we're getting to the point now where the networks need
to know what's going to happen, and so it looks
very much like it's going to be punted to twenty
twenty seven, which means if somebody didn't expect wins the

(55:46):
championship this year, then it's just going to be like
twenty twenty four all over again. The only thing I
have with this, outside of potentially somebody we're winning the
championship again, is that this article in the Athletic and
I could not go and read the article because I'm
not gonna pay the Athletic money. But in the quote

(56:08):
that I saw from the Athletic, it said that the
and I don't know if this is a quote from
NASCAR if this is quote just from the athletic or
if it was a quote from somebody else, it just
said that the committee was put together to find a
way to produce a more legitimate and they put that
in quotes, a more legitimate champion. And I'm like, all right, listen.

(56:28):
You may not like the fact that Joey Logano won,
and you may not like the fact that the guy
who was twelve or whatever in the standings ended up
being the champion, but Joey Logano is a legitimate champion.
He made it to the final race, and he beat
everybody in that final race. Whether the rules system is
effed up or not, that doesn't make him the legitimate champion, right.

(56:49):
I mean, that's like saying that in baseball or hockey
or football that if a wild card team wins the championship,
they're not legitimate. No, they are because they won by
the roles. If you don't like that, change she haffing
rules and they can't figure out how to do that,
So don't say it that way.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
In my opinion, Yeah, no, I thank you. You got
to reframe it. No one where or the other. I
used to I used to describe the athletic and then
I just know it's not and I can't get into
it anymore, which is fine by May after the New
York Times. But the interesting part that I had Jeff
Gluck is part of it. He you know, he's one
of those one of those guys who's just like, yeah,

(57:26):
let's put everything together. Uh, he asked. He asked Chase
Elliot about it.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Oh, okay. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
He's like, hey, wait, I'm trying to find the quote
right now. Yeah, very curious, and he and Chase Elliott
was saying something to the effect of, yeah, well, let's
just have let's just have a full season points, let's
not have a playoff exactly, back to the old style.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
And then they blamed it on Mark Martin.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I think they did, but he said something to the
effect that, yeah, I mean, if someone runs away with it,
we should celebrate someone running away with the whole damn
thing exactly. I mean, it's not that heart of a
tech god. Jeff Cluck tweets way too much, Jesus christ Man.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I mean, while you're looking through them, we just talked
about the playoff or the standings right now, and obviously,
in a full season situation, the points might be distributed
a little bit differently, but we've got a an insanely
close race between the top four guys are all separated
by twenty points. That will be a compelling championship that
comes down to the wire.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, and the point system is so closed up now
going from the one you get one hundred points for
one hundred and eighty five points for a win. Now
down to forty. I mean that's a little bit not
as insurmountab all right, the quote year after five years
of looking for it, Jase Elliott said, and ike quote,
we've had a really good and competitive battle to a
regular season championship. And correct me if I'm wrong. The
last two or three the last two or three years

(58:49):
as well, it's really been pretty tight at Daytona. If
you take that as part as your sample set over
the first twenty six weeks, it looks pretty solid to me.
The system would be just fine if you had a
full season. And if somebody runs away with it, so what,
Let's celebrate the fact that somebody ran away with it.
Then somebody was just that good motorsports doesn't have to
be like everyone else to be successful. And I'll stand
by that until I get done I agree. That's huge

(59:14):
from a guy who won a championship. Yeah, from a
guy who has a big voice in NASCAR and has
you know, has seen the errors as they go on
one way or the other through NASCAR. So if the
whole scenario is that NASCAR is just a Chase Elliot vehicle,
then we're gonna see in twenty twenty seven everything goes

(59:37):
back to normal once again.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Exactly, And that'd be fine with me. I think he
said it well.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And I'm happy with it because I'm tired of the
winds getting people in. I'm tired of you know, bubble races,
and then like the first like the round system is terrible.
We've closed up enough, like I said, like I mentioned earlier,
we've closed up enough where a win being one hundred
and eighty five points and like I can't remember what

(01:00:02):
the lowest one. I want to say, it was like
maybe thirty something back in the day in the Winston copy.
That gap has closed huge, So a one or two
races slump doesn't completely sink your season, right exactly. So
I'm at a point now where it's just like if
we get back to the old system, perfect less to

(01:00:24):
it because it doesn't need to be that. Does F
one have a playoff? No? Didney carbon a playoff? No? Why?
Why why are we forcing this to be a playoff?
It doesn't need to be a playoff. Just put its
single season and away we go. We're done with it.
It's so much simpler. You can get rid of the dam.
You don't even have to get rid of the stage racing.

(01:00:45):
I mean, stage racing can stay for that. That would
actually make things more exciting now, because then you'd be like, oh,
now you have to win it to get these extra
points to start winning championship, right, And you could.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
End up in a scenario where a guy has to
start like trying to figure out how to win stages
at the you know, in the latter half of the season,
to make up the ground on somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Right, and then and and SVG winning a race doesn't
automatically get him ino the playoffs, even though he's like
thirtieth in points or something like that. Exactly, you avoid
that whole controversy, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh uh So Fox is in
the process of ruining i mean, buying a part of IndyCar.
Apparently Roger Penske has made a deal with the media
giant to purchase one third of IndyCar for somewhere between

(01:01:37):
a reported one and twenty five and one hundred and
thirty five million dollars, and along with that, they then
essentially locked themselves in as the broadcast media partner. And
I think that also locks, you know, IndyCar into what
we've already been seeing, which is a Fox has been
featuring them on the main network while they're bumping NASCAR

(01:01:59):
to cable when they have both.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Nascar doesn't care. They already get their money exactly, so
they couldn't care less at that point. Yeah, and with
the way the schedule is divvied up now, like does
it affect NASCAR all that much? Is there that much
of a crossover?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Not very much. I mean it's just the beginning of
the season. But but yeah, you know, so I don't
think we're going to see any less of what we've
been seeing, which is Fox prioritizing IndyCar. And I mean
this kind of goes along with how they presented IndyCar
when they first got the contract. I mean, their marketing

(01:02:37):
was way better than the NASCAR marketing, And so I
think we're going to see that part continue, which is
probably part of what's spurring NASCAR on to a get
a marketing firm to come in and be focus in
a different area because the marketing push that IndyCar has
been doing has been more youthful, and it has been
more trendy, and it has you know, appealed to a

(01:02:59):
broader audience. I don't know if it's making a huge
difference in terms of numbers, but that's where they're positioning themselves.
And so maybe that's why NASCAR is like, oh, we'll
just like circle the wagons on our niche and like
hope that like DC doesn't fall apart in the meantime
and kill all of our momentum.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, well that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Oh totally is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
The best case scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
I mean, Richard Chulders will say it didn't happen, but
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Iraqi Defense Minister that is Richard Children's Oh well yeah, okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
This is kind of an interesting story too. Jimmy Johnson
is only running two races so far this year, but
he said that next year, not only is he already
committing to UH San Diego because and that makes sense
I mean that's where he's from. He's from Escondido, which
is right outside of San Diego, so he's gonna run
that race. But he then said he would like to

(01:03:59):
run more racist next year, which is okay except that
he's kind of been sucking up the joint. But then
he went a step further, and this is a quote.
He said that when it comes to legacy, he said, quote,
we're hopeful to have a third charter, need to start
team building. There's a chance that I run more races
next year if we have a third charter on the

(01:04:20):
docket and have a sponsor to bring along team members
to groom, a crew chief to get reps, a driver
to get reps. There's a lot of scenarios that are
in play. I'm hopefully I can keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I don't know if by that quote that he is
suggesting that he do like a Mark Martin scenario with
Bobby Jin Motorsports.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Wouldn't that be a complain about the point system?

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yeah? Yeah, complain about the point system where like he
like splits time in the car with somebody, or if
he's suggesting that, oh, we don't have a driver, and
so if we have a charter. I'll just go ahead
and race the entire season until we find it driver,
in which case we have Jimmy Johnson back full time,
which I think would be a catastrophically bad idea.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Hey, man, go for the drive for eight. Let's go, Hey,
kulda happen drive for eight. Let's make this happen. Man,
find a way, find a way to just get the playoffs.
Just get in the playoffs, man. I mean, imagine him
being the guy who starts and ends the playoffs. He
somehow finds it, he wins a race, how eats his

(01:05:26):
way through all the systems, and wins the final race
of the season because everyone else crass out. Imagine that
he starts the playoff because he's too good. He ends
the playoffs because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
You know exactly exactly. Yeah. I mean, as fun as
that would be, I'm very doubtful. And I just think
that when you're at that level, when you are at
Jimmy Johnson level, where like you have won so many

(01:05:57):
freaking championships in so many races, and like you're a
legend of the sport, that you just gotta let it go.
Like do the Dale Junior thing where you pick one
race that you're really jazzed about. Then you run it
in the X Series.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
No, you gotta run it all the time. In the
Cup Series. You have to be number one. You gotta
be front and center. I guess, man, you gotta be there.
It's gotta be about you. You know, one who cares
about my other drivers. I'm gimming Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I know that's what it feels like, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
They call me double J. They call me mister seven times.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I think in his mind he still thinks he is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I hired Marti Smith to do a podcast with me
that there's no reason to have a podcast with me
in it. I just did it because I can't. Did
he really?

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Does he really do it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Eh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Really? I didn't even know that. What does he talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I don't know? Man, how should he have?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Team? Did last week?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Current Events? It's like every it's like everything but Nascar?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Oh my gosh, really, what the heck? Oh my gosh,
you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
On Apple Podcasts, I'm not gonna lie to you about
something like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
That, and never Settle, and also on Spotify, everybody never
settle with Jimmy Johnson and Marty Smith. I can't even
imagine how terrible that podcast must be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
It's just one guy stroking another guy and the other guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I think it's exactly what it is. I think it's
probably both stroking the other one's ego. I think Jimmy
does alright, Right, So here here's the blurb. Hang on,
Can I click on this and get a full description?
Or if I click on this, am I going to
be forced to listen to it? All?

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Here here's the UH. Here's the description from the UH
from Wednesday's episode. So just yesterday. Okay, Jimmy Johnson and
Marty Smith, welcome Ohio State football coach, or sorry, Ohio
State general manager. Even more boring than football coach, Ohio
State Football general Manager Mark Pantoni on the show to

(01:07:58):
talk about all things OSU football, including the nil which is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Naming image and name image licensing, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Impact on the sport, how he handles the pressure of
collegiate athletics, his philosophy on building a roster, his relationship
with Erbin Meyer, which is probably a lot of drinking
and then you know, hanging out in bars with women,
and the importance of a great culture, His process for
evaluating talent, the challenge of staying consistently successful, and more.

(01:08:29):
Then Marty and Jimmy run through all of your questions
in another edition of Ask Jimmy, another edition. So you're
right that they don't talk about don't talk about sports. Oh,
they do talk about Sonoma. And then then they talk
to Carolina Hurricanes head coach Rob Brindamore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that clip. I don't understand it.
I don't I don't understand this podcast episode.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Before that, they did have their own drivers on, said
the Legacy drivers on. Oh, Scott Dixon, friend of the show,
Scott Dixon. I personally find it. I find it satisfying
that it took Jimmy Johnson many, many years after we
started our show to have Scott Dixon on. Scott Dixon

(01:09:19):
did our show long before he ever did Jimmy Johnson's show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
But we haven't had him back since.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
No, No, we have not. Oh, they recapped Jimmy's incredible
trip to Japan and Marty's experience at the Cooper Flag
draft party in Maine. Okay, so they just talked about
random shiz.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Wow. You weren't joking when you said
they talk about nothing anything button Nascar.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, Tony Kanaan everybody aka Indy Carbon Diesel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
There you go, wow, Thin Diesel as they call him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh wow, okay, there we go. Yeah,
Lynd Saint James. Oh wow, that lind Saint James. That's
pretty cool. Now I'm thinking they got good guests. Scotty.
They review Scottie Scheffler's Champions dinner menu. I don't even
know what the hell that is?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Those are he won the Masters?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
They discussed their favorite Southern rock bands, and then they
talked to Chase Sutley. What the hell that's random?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, that's random.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Ladies and gentlemen, Chase Sutley.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Why why wouldn't you have Philly's legend Chase Utley?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Oh my gosh, what the heck? He has to play
baseball for like decades? Man? Oh? Did they just start
it this year? Because they only have episodes on Apple
Back to Oh yes has never settled with Jimmy Johnson,
Marty Smith. They abused February twelfth, so they've only just
started doing it. They've only just begun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
It'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
It'll be interesting to see how long that that continues,
because what what I don't think somebody like Jimmy Johnson
or anybody for that matter, would really understand is the
level of work and commitment it takes to do a
podcast over a long period of time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, one and done. You get their money. The thing
is they're profiting off of us, something we have yet
to do over the forty seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
That is true. If we're making money, we wouldn't say
that it's a lot of time and effort. No, I no,
oh man. So that's what Jimmy's up to. And who knows,
maybe he'll be running an entire season or part of
a season, good part of season next year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Who the f knows.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
We'll find out. Uh. The NASCAR twenty five video game
is coming out for consoles in a couple of months,
October fourteenth, everybody, So there you go. Up. I Racing
is working on it. So I guess that's a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I guess it's better than not better than other the
other like fly By not Operations.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Hopefully, let's keep our fingers crossed. And then they're going
to have the three main series and then Arka ARCA
will join them this time, so we'll see, I suppose
if that works.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Out or not. Uh, yeah, it's fine and then.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
That brings us almost to uh to sponsor news. I
don't know if got one, if in the millions of
posts had anything interesting to talk about there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
There there was one big thing that came down yesterday.
What's this Josh Williams out at Calli Grayson.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Oh, that's right, Yeah, they gave him the boot, just
like mid season, which is super weird. I mean it's
very much like Kilee Deagan last year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Mm hmmm, uh you right. Remember Josh Williams from stopping
his own car two years ago wanting to start finish
line and then running away in protest. And it's not
done anything since. I think he spots a couple of
races here and there by and large, he has not
done anything yet. The real life Kenny Powers out at
calig Racing. Carson Joseovar was going to fill in this
weekend for Callig but it's gonna be a rotating seat

(01:12:52):
in that number eleven. As Caligu's Xfinity team not doing
that great this year. They you know, they have not
the best of talents overall. I think Christian X is
the top. He's a rookie there and he's the top
driver of the two. So that tells you something about
how the program's gone, since they just kind of focused

(01:13:13):
on Cup series.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Yeah, I am going to guess that it's a combination
of the performance and then maybe the sponsors are drying
up with him, because I'm sure he was bringing sponsors
to be in that car.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, and they're just like, we can't
keep paying for you just to drive dog shit exactly exactly.
Oh and Speedway Classic this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Oh oh oh, that's right, all but the baseball game.
Who's in the Reds and Gregs and Brave Brave everybody
Sun Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. But something at some point this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
At some point this weekend. And the field looks fantastic?

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Oh does it? Okay? I saw. I think we talked
about a little bit last weekend. I think that today
or yesterday I got suggested something I had like a
panorama shot, but it was on my phone. It's like
you really can get a good look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah, No, field looks fantastic. It looks pretty pretty jacked
to be there. They look pretty jaged to be there.
So cool, it should be fun. They broke the eighty
five thousand ticket barrier. I can believe that, so they
will be. It'll be the highest attendant a Major League
Baseball game since n ever. And nineteen fifty four was

(01:14:25):
the last time they had over eighty thousand flats.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Wow. Wow, I wonder where that was. It's a long
time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Oh I want to say it was Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Oh wow, okay, all right, there was there were I
think Detroit did have like a cavernous stadium back then.
I think Tiger Stadium was pretty freaking massive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Sorry it was Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Oh yes, no, Cleveland did have they had that. That
place was monstrous. What was it. It wasn't for something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
It wasn't municipal stadium, municipal thank you, municipal stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Yes, that place was absolutely gigantic. And then they tore
it down and built that thing right along the water there. Yeah. No,
that place was massive, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
It was a double It was a double header against
the Yankees. Eighty four thousand people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah. And the funny part is they could have done
that every night, except Cleveland was so bad that they
didn't ever sell it out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
So awful, so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, I forgot about that stadium.
That place was freaking ginormous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah, but that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Let's roll, uh sponsors, all right, So Hulu is gonna
be on the number sixty six Joey Gays car this
weekend at Iowa in the X Series and the Cup Series,
pimping the fact that they are gonna start streaming King
of the Hell and there's a new season that's being made.
That car, to me, looks fantastic. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Oh yeah, it's great, especially with the passing of Chuck
Manngioni last week. What no, Yeah, he died the same
day as Hogan. That's why I didn't get Oh no,
I didn't know that. Yeah, it doesn't feel so good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
That is so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Oh my gosh, passed and again Hogan. Hogan wouldn't wouldn't
sell for it? What uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, he should have. I mean, come on, that's burying
the lead there. I'm much I'm a much bigger fan
of Chuck Manjoni.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Yeah, and I've got the records to prove it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I'm not. I'm just saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
So yeah, Chuck Mangioni another King of the Hill alumni
who was passed on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Man, that's a bummer. But yeah, that's one of my
favorite cars. So far this year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Oh yeah, no, it looks sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yeah, did a good job, Syracuse Football. And in addition
to that, their nil program is gonna be on the
number forty four with JJ Lay not this weekend because
he's not racing this weekend, but next weekend at Watkins Glen.
That car is very orange, which makes sense Syracuse and
then Costa Oil, which doesn't make oil. Apparently they do

(01:16:52):
oil changes. They're going to be on the number fifty
one the Cody work car this weekend at Iowa as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Syracuse dropped the ball. How so they could have put
auto the orange on the damn hood?

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Oh yeah, they could. They didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Well that's right. It's just like a big S or
something like that, right, they could have put the orange
on there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Yeah, that is now definitely. Yeah. If if you've got
an iconic mascot, you gotta that's goofy looking, you got
to put it on the hood of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Oh yeah, man, yeah, well they need That's why they
needed like a Philly Philadelphia fanatic.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Exactly if you had if the Philly sponsored a car,
it would have to buy law have the fanatic on
the front or the side or preferably both.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Honestly, you have to have the Philly fanatic and gritty
on the same car, recreating, recreating, like that man slap
with swarts and agger and the other guy exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Oh man. But that that does take us to Iowa.
And I think I said it before. Joey Gase is
our thirty seventh person, thirty seven cars in this one.
So everybody's getting in, including that Joey Gase money.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
And so that brings us to the only good thing
on nascar dot com. But you it's subsequently ruined and
they made it good for a while and now it's
it's not bad. I mean they're they're doing a decent job.
It's the paint scheme preview. There are sixty five paint
schemes to choose from here. Which ones do you like?
Is there anything that stands out to you as better
than the rest? I mean, Seabast does have shrimp on
the side.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
I'm just saying they do it is, But I gotta
go with Bob's Discount Furniture.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Oh, you gotta have the Bobs. Gotta have the Bob
is hanging on to the to the logo there, which
makes it more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
And the only reason is I see the trucks everywhere.
There's a there's a thing right near us, and yeah,
you have to you have to have the bobs. There.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Have you been in the bobs yet?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
God?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
No, I walked into a bob. So there's a bob's
not too far from me, maybe ten minutes and I
went into the bobs and they do kind of follow
you around like they're trying to sell you a used
car just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Well, no one buys anything there, they know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
I think that's exactly what happens. That's all I did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
It's a chicken eggs an aarrea that if they don't
if they follow you around, you're not gonna buy. But
you're not gonna buy if they follow you around. So
it's a weird situation there. I will leave the King
of the Hill car to you, because that is awesome,
but that will be yours. But I will take Brendan
Pole in the Minus car on X series only because

(01:19:25):
it it literally looks like a grey, golden Pannini car,
but just Minus instead of Panini on the does it's wild?
I saw that. I'm like, that's not Pannini.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
I dig that car. Too. I think it's a great
looking car.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
That's it's like looking car like it's very crazy and
it makes you want to go to minus.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
It's what it is. It's wild and it jumps out
at you, and that's what you want for a car
because you're trying to like focus on the sponsor.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah, and you know, give me the car the Tyler Reddick,
give me the Big Bun.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Oh I like that one. Yeah? No, I like that
one as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yeah. McDonald's Big Bun yep.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yep, I dig that one. Ummm okay, So what am
I gonna go with here? Because you picked some really
good ones.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
You already got the sixty six.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah, yeah, definitely wanted to present the King of the hillcar. Mean,
I think it looks fantastic like that. That should count
for all three, but it won't. Um, so I'll go
with that one. Then let me pick one. Do I
want to pick one from the X series? You pick
the best one from the X Series for sure. I
don't think there's anything else there to them really partial too,

(01:20:34):
so I'll stick to the CUP series. I do enjoy
that the Carson host Var eleven car in the X
Series looks like a FedEx car from the Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Um so instead, let's focus back up on the Cup series.
So we got the sixty six in there. Forty five
is looking good. There were two other ones that I
saw up here. Oh, I don't know what the thing
is with. Let me search for this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Let see what that is?

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
What? What is this? What? What is altaru or out?
All all true?

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
All true? All true? Was the hospital system I used
to work at, but it was spelled differently and didn't
have a kangaroo thing. I don't. I think it's it's
a it's a digital fund raising platform.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Wow. Yeah, I'm looking at the website. It still doesn't
make sense to me, so I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Going to So basically, you support causes, it's your crowd
pun causes causes, and it's a sweepstakes and then you
can enter it and it enteres you to win that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Cause I can't. I can't get behind that. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
It was It was started by NHL player Jason Zucker,
NFL player Kyle Rudolph into other business partners. It didn't
play in sports, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Good for them, so good for them. But if there's
not a big kangaroo in the hood, I'm not gonna
pick it instead, I'll go, Oh, I'll go Chase Elliott
in the nine, the NAPA car. Okay, is that his
regular car? I feel I feel like it's not. And

(01:22:19):
then I'll give I'll give a shout out to Ross
Chestain with the with the farm on the side of
the car because they're in Iowa and they got corn
on the car and then they got they had they.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Had all corn last week that we missed because we
were I know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
But I like the big tractor, like the tractor in
the barn back there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, I'm just saying last week's car was all corn.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
It was all corn all the time, all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
That kind of corn. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Yeah. Now I'm gonna go with the tractor part.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Yeah, So I'll pick those. And it looks like it
even has like a big like bird of some sort.
I don't know what kind of bird that is. It's
flying off in the distance too. So there we go.
So that takes us to the picks. All right, So
last week fudge did I have Oh? Oh you know, Okay,
here's the weird part about last week. Before I picked

(01:23:07):
didn't I pick Tyler Redick?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
You sure did?

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Before I picked Tyler Reddick. I was like, should I
pick Bubba Wallace. I'm like, no, No, definitely with Tyler Reddick.
And I should have gone with my gut on that one.
That would have been great, But I picked Tyler Reddick.
He ended up getting into the wall. It did not
work well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
So I'm sure you beat me and the Ryan Blaney
with the seventh yep yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
And then I didn't even know how we did on
the side.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Bet side bet, I was the big winner and Jesse
Love finished twenty fourth. Just Love, I've picked him thirtieth.
You picked them thirty fourth. I get a big double
on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
You finally broke that streak for the side bets.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Man, Oh yeah, maybe all right, so races now you
have to break my three race wind streak.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
I know I've got the entire field to choose from,
but a very small sample size in terms of how
these guys are going to perform, you know what, let's
go man, trying to think how they did last week.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
And different track than I don't think he really is
a completely different track.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
You know, I'm gonna go out on a limb a
little bit here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I like when he does his kids.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
And I don't even know why he did okay but
not great in the first race here. But give me
Brad Keselowski. Okay, that is going on on the limbs.
Based on how his race.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
This year, that's a pretty that's a pretty big limbs.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Not not not in the best. I should have gone
with Busher because he's got more of the race for it,
But I'm gonna go with the boss with Kez on
this one. We'll see how.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
M go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
A little contrarian.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
You know you did it. You did it two weeks
ago or a few weeks ago. I'm gonna do it now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Double damn.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Give me Ryan Blaney on the double on the coming.
He's on the com baby.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
I mean, he dominated this place last year, so he's
on the come up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
We will get that going.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Yeah, So that's a very very safe pick. I think
that you probably have a I'm definitely looking for like
a surprise weekend where I mean, as long as Ryan
Blaney does something close to what he did last year,
you should be able to win this one. I don't
know what to do for a side bet though, I mean,
is this a Joey Gay type of situation or.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
I think I think we I think we have to
do a speedway challenge. Oh oh oh, so we pick
I think we pick what the furthest home run will
be in the in the in the Speedway Classic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Oh my gosh. Okay, all right, there is no sho Tani.
Though unfortunately I don't know who these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Have so la ed of the Cruz would be the
big guy in Cincy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Okay, an I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
He's playing so like it could be tough.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
I have at least heard of him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, but we're we're taking the distance. Okay, all right,
you're gonna be We're gonna be like cake. We're going
We're doing the distance. We're going for speedy. Okay, for
this home run hit at the Speedway Classic, let me
see if I can, if I can bring up some
do we have some stats on the place dimensions. So

(01:26:28):
it's gonna be three thirty down the lines, four hundred
dead center, three seventy five to the right field alley,
three eighty four to the left field.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, so I'll say
that the longest bomb is gonna be four oh eight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Okay, that's a good that's a good guess.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Uh four on either side.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I'm gonna go. I don't know, because they are they
in the mountains in Bristol, now not really, the air
is not thin up there. Yeah, it's not gonna be.
It's not gonna be coors Field kind of gimmick. I'm
gonna I'm gonna go a little further. I'm gonna go
four fifty two. Wow. Four fifty two is a number

(01:27:17):
that just pops out in my head. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
So there we go. Since we don't want to deal
with Joey Yace, we will do longest home run in
the Speedway Classic.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
We're gonna launch a rocket. And the crazy part is
looking at the rendering here, it looks like when that
homern is hit and nobody is gonna get to take
home a souvenir.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
No, not at all, because it like, even if.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
They like launched like a monster bomb, he's just gonna
land on the track.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
But and yeah, that it's so banged, it's gonna ricchet
back on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
His roll right down exactly. Yeah. Interesting, huh wow, all right,
So in the race, uh, the wasatsman has picked wisely.
He went with Ryan Blaney. I picked poorly. I went
with Brad Keselowski at Iowa and when it comes to
the when it comes to the Speedway Classic, Scotty's number

(01:28:05):
is four, would you say four fifty four fifty two?
I'm at four oh eight for the longest bomb. You
want to find out who wins the race, who wins
the bet, who wins to cide bet, whether it was
any good because it's Iowa, you're probably not gonna be watching. Definitely,
come back next week. We will talk about the race.
What happened will be one race closer to the playoffs
as well, we'll talk about that situation and if we

(01:28:26):
get a new winner, how that all might figure out.
So if I'm right and brag Keslowski wins, boy, we
have an interesting situation as we get closer to the playoffs.
So everybody should be rooting for me to win the bet.
So come back next week. If you haven't subscribed to
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(01:28:51):
You can ask Alexa to play it, or you can
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Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
In the draft show dot com it's a website, got
small pictures, but when.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I posted it looks big on my computer. But I'm
posting it on the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Hey man, this said. I've said that to girls too.
Don't worry. Ah, but if you want to stay on,
if you want to stay social with us, We're not
gonna be social with you. Edit in the draft show,
wherever you get your social media thing working on? By
the way, Uh, Ellie Day the Cruise, Cabrian Hayes, Austin Hayes,
and uh Gavin Lux for the Reds, Ozzie Albie's, Matt

(01:29:26):
Olsen the Big Swingers and Jackson Jackson Profar and Mark
Marcella Uzuna the Big Spats for the Braves.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Interesting, So hopefully Ozzie will come through for me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Oh day Uh And it is on the second, so
Sunday night on Fox Night. Okay, right on, but after
that that's it. It's Wilson's was take care of yourself
and someone else It has been in the draft of Wilson.
It was It's August first somehow, Oh my gosh, god,
I hate when that happens. Yeah, five twenty seven A D.

(01:29:57):
Justinian the first becomes the sole ruler of the business Empire. Okay,
all right, that's to them. That's twelve yeah, twelve ninety one,
the Old Swiss Confederacy is formed with the signature of
the Federal Charter. Oh, all right, one time the Confederacy wins.
Christopher Columbus becomes the first European to visit what is
now Venezuela this day in fourteen nineties SEC.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
We call it CC. Call him CC for short.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Yeah, Chocolate City loves that place. Seventeen seventy four, British
scientist Joseph Priestley discovers oxygen gas. Oh he's said, this
is what we've been breathing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Wait, he discovered You can't discover oxygen, it's just there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
He did. He found it, alright, if they say so.
He corroborated with a private prior discovery of the element
by German Swedish chemist Carl Wilhelm Shield. Go figure man
kind of wild. That is. Slavery is abolished this day
in eighteen thirty four in Britain. That's good. So they
got that going for him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
It's stuff in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Yeah, that's a right. A riot in Philadelphia this day
in eighteen forty two, who knew it started really kicking
things off? Oh no, Colorado eighteen seventy six is admitted
it's the thirty eighth state of the Union. Oh wow, okay,
congrats to them. The start of the first Scout camp
in Brownsea Island is the origin for the Scouting movement.

(01:31:22):
Oh wow, oh there you go. Enjoy that. That's not good.
A lot of World War II stuff because it was warm,
and everyone's going. Nineteen fifty seven, United States and Canada
for Norad. Oh okay, the thing that Santa Claus goes on,
I think so yeah, great time. Nope, but Jesus God,
just the hell's going on? They weren't even they shouldn't

(01:31:44):
be in anyway. That's not good. That's not good. MTV
begins broadcasting United States with video kills the radio start
by the Buggles This Day in nineteen eighty one, Nice,
nineteen eighty one, Baby. Nineteen ninety eight, punt Land, an
autonomous state in northeastern Somali, was officially established following a

(01:32:04):
constitutional conference in Garo. Islam and tribal chiefs agreed to
his self declaring government until Somalia recovers and they would
usually recover after third down, and then after third down
they would go to punt Land exactly long way for
a joke there, folks, I apologize. We got there. We
got there eventually.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
And in twenty twenty three, Donald Trump is indicted for
his role in January sixth. Wonder how that worked.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Yeah, unfortunately he was a teflon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
It was his third indictment of the year. Yeah, the
year twenty twenty three. He had three of them, just
in that one year, and just in the one and
that it was his third in eight months.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Yeah, and still somehow got present.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
So it sounds on brand.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Country. This country deserves. Happy birthday to Claudius born this
day in ten BC, Roman Emperor.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I like how he just went with the one word
thing like prince or Madonna, glorious, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Notorious, I said, biggie, that's how he got his name.
I don't know when that works. All right, folks, enjoy
the race this week, and enjoy the base of bowl.
And we'll talk to you next week about all those
things and stuff because you're not gonna watch, so we'll
watch it for you maybe. And get back to Delenn Bates.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Thanks for listening to you in the draft with Wilson
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