Dega DQs, Small Team Drama, Texas is Here

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
This time smoking like hell now coming down, don't.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Know anything and welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson
and was I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile
right across the internet from her beautiful studio by the Bay,
Version two point zero. It is well, mister Scotty, was
what was happening?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
There was man that was a boring talladegger wasn't it?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Though?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
But here here's the conundrum that we find ourselves in
is that everyone is off often upset that Talladegga is
a cluster f but now or to the point where
people are upset that it's not enough of a clutter.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I know, yeah it really is because there was no
big one, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, only four cautions and two of them were stage
conclusions and there was not a caution in stage three.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, that that that part's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
And that's the only thing that really decided this race,
because I mean, Bubba Wallace would Buba Wallace came close,
although he got hung up. We'll talk about that in
a second. But Bubba Wallace probably would have won this
race had there been some cautions. And I know that
sounds strange, to say, because really, if you were upfront,
it was very much like an intermedia track if you
were up front. On the restart, I mean there was

(01:24):
a little jockeying at the beginning and that was kind
of it, and which is very uncharacteristic for Talladega. But
because they ram caution free through that last segment, we
got green flag pit stops, and the green flag pit
stops made all of the difference in this one. That
is that m Ross Chestain is what won Austin Centric
this race.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean it was a situation where
you know, they they did what they could do, and
that last that last pit stop for the fuel only
for buying largs. I mean that that was the turny factor.
I mean you heard guys like Denny Hamlin said, oh
you don't get enough, and other teams just calculating here
or there and everywhere. But I mean, boy, those sports,

(02:05):
those sports look good. Yeah, they look good all day
until you know things were missing.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah exactly, yeah, and then they all got kicked out.
But but you know, it's interesting. Just before I came
into the studio to do the show, I was listening
to some of Denny Hamlin's podcast which I don't do
all the time. But they were playing it up like
they were going to talk about that incident between Austin
Sindric and Joey Logano, which wasn't an incident per se,

(02:34):
but Joey just got all pissed off at Austin Sindric,
and so I was looking for that. They didn't really
talk too much about that at all, but they did
talk quite a bit, or Denny talk quite a bit
about this particular car at this particular track, and he
said that the reason because, I mean, you have Austin
Sindric and Ryan Preece of all people, right, You've got

(02:56):
them side by side at the front, and them right
by behind them were Kyle Larson and who was on
the bottom. I can't remember who was on the bottom.
Maybe Larson was on the bottom, but Larson was one
of the guys behind him, and everybody was like, you know,
why didn't Larson make a move? And even on the broadcast,
like they were trying to play it up like there

(03:17):
was gonna be this wild like everybody splits up, you know,
drag race to the line. At one point, somebody I
don't know who it was, in the booth was like, oh, man,
you know, Larson's holding like laying back because he's getting
up ahead of steam. He's gonna build up, you know,
some momentum here and make a run. But according to Denny,
the reason that Kyle Larson, you know, just pushed Cindric

(03:41):
to the win is because that's all he could do.
And Denny was like, you could not pull out of
the line because the cars have so much drag now
that if you pull out of the line, it doesn't
even matter if you have help. You're just done. Like
there's no way to make up that difference of getting
hit by that wind when everybody else is inside the

(04:02):
freight train. And he said, so now you're just riding around.
That's why there were no recks because nobody was getting
aggressive because you couldn't get aggressive because the only thing
that getting aggressive would get you is to the back
of the line.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, and I mean precious position, and how much it
took to get back to you up there in the
first place, and even sniff and it's like, no one
wants to take a risk, and that leads to super
bad situations in Talladega where it's just a dull, dull
race and the fans. The fans spoke as well.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
There.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wilson very curious the Jeff gluck Good race poll results.
What do you think Talladega got?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, I think you got more than Bristol.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You would be correct in that assumption.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Because the commentators were kind of trying to play the
hype mam role. I could not believe. I could not
believe that. After Cindric cross the line, Mike Joey was
making a big deal. He was like, oh man, this
is like the the fifth Telenegg in a row that
we got the last slap pass for the win. I'm like,
that was not a last slap pass for the win.
That is not what a normal NASCAR fan thinks of

(05:08):
as a last slap pass for the win. A last
lap pass for the win would have been Kyle Larson
making a move and getting around the two front guves.
The fact that Priests bumper got ahead for one timing
loop and then Cindrics got backhead that's not a last
slap pass for the win, even though technically it might be.
But because they were hyping it up, I think some
people really bought into that and we're like, oh, look
at all the lead changes. So I'm gonna say that

(05:30):
it was in like the thirty eight to forty percent range.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You would be right in the middle there, pick it
thirty nine Wow, No way really. Thirty nine percent of
people said it was a good race, and of the
twenty five thousand people who voted in the Jeff Gluck, Hey,
what's happening, pol this is the fourth straight race under
fifty one percent. Yeah, whether it's a good race. Leading

(05:56):
into it, the Clash got eighty six percent. I think
that was a lot of just the hype of where
the track was. Yeah, for sure at Bowman Gray. Then
Daytona had sixty eight percent or close to sixty nine. Nice,
Atlanta eighty one to five, Yeah, Coda eighty six seven Wow,

(06:16):
Phoenix triple sevens wow. Vegas eighty seven too, which was stunning.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, that's a boring place.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Typically Homestead eighty three to two.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then it dropped off thirty three percent in Martinsville
for fifty, Darlington forty six percent, Bristol twenty percent, Talladega
thirty nine percent.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's like they've done it backwards, right. It's it's like
they've designed this car so much to try to improve it.
At intermedia tracks that it's making all of the tracks
that are typically very exciting look like the intermedia tracks
you just can't pass.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, exactly. An interesting poll here by this person stib
who does a does it looks like they do a
lot of charts. They have the four Crown Jewel races
that they've denoted here. What do you think the four
Crown Jewel races that this stub says there are?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I mean, you've got the Daytona five hundred, you've got
the Coke six hundred, layup, you've got I mean, now
that they're back at it at the Oval, I would
say the brickyard, yes, sir, and then the fourth one.
I mean, honestly, if you ask drivers, I would think
that they would say that the fourth one might be

(07:31):
Darlington A.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Ladies and gentlemen. It's a quick, clean, sweet there you go.
Yeah that, I mean, there's pretty much no other.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
But but really, Southern five hundred is you know the
Darlington raceist Southern five.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Hundred absolutely, yeah, the late race yeah yeah, but uh yeah.
I mean it's it's interesting how much they just have
have flip flopped in terms of the short track racing
is garbage now.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, it really is. Man, it's crazy. And I don't know,
you know, according to what Denny was saying today, I
feel like it's more and more and more with the
car and the tires is where the problems are are
lying at these other tracks and I don't even know.
I mean, with the tires, that's fixable, but I mean
with the car, that's that's not fixable, not easily. No,

(08:19):
they haven't.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
They have. They have realized that, you know, they put
a lot of work into this over many years and
delayed the start of it. They're not gonna go change
it now.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
No, No, And in all honesty, I mean that's part
of the problem is that they change it so often
that nobody has a chance to figure out how to
make the cars race. You know, it's just like, oh,
everybody's figuring it out. It's chaotic for a year. Then
it's kind of boring for a year, and the NASCAR
is like, Okay, we're gonna do a new car now
and and so, and of course takes a couple of

(08:49):
years to get there, and then right when people start
to kind of get the hang of it, then they
change it all. And I mean, I guess that's not
that unusual. They do that in F one every so
often as well. But but you know, I mean the
problem is when they when you see a place like
Bristol or Martinsville or Talladega and it's considerably worse than

(09:10):
it was before, then change for the sake of change
is a terrible thing. I mean, you don't want to
screw with your bread and butter ones. And those are
the races you always expect to be exciting.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, but now here we are.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's just what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Two things from this three things from this race, because
we have to talk about this qualifications. So Ross Chastain
right to set the stage for most of you who
didn't watch it. In that last kind of series of
green flag stops, each manufacturer kind of teamed up and

(09:47):
and we'll get more into the manufacturer thing here in
a second, when we'll get the Logano and Chestain Logano
and Cindric uh No. I mean that that install at
stage two. So the Toyotas come in first, right, and
then they come back out. They got themselves organized. They
had a really good job of it. So now they

(10:09):
got kind of like their own mini draft going. Everybody
else comes in they come back out. But as they
come back out and they're trying to get themselves organized.
Now you know the Chevies and the Fords, they were
like kind of sorting themselves out, and that's what got
Syndric up to the front. And here come the Toyotas.
Now they had already been running full speed and they

(10:31):
had themselves organized really well, and they were coming right
and then as they catch the back of the pack,
Ross Chastain is like, I don't think so, and he
pulls up right in front of their freight train right
and they all kind of have to scatter a little bit.
That broke their draft. They got stuck in the back
half of the field. And of that, Bubba Wallace to

(10:54):
get into the top ten, but that was only because
some guys started running out of gas at the end
and it really broke up the draft. And he went
from like twentyeth to tenth to eighth, I guess. And
then every other Toyota, and the Toyotas have been running
really really well in the second stage, every other Toyota,
we're fourteenth or lower at the end of this race.
For those two reasons. One chest Tame broke up their

(11:16):
draft and two, you just couldn't pass until guys started
running out of gas at the end. Denny Hamlin was
really pissed about this. He was like, there should be
some sort of way to police this, because you get
in trouble if you, you know, intentionally wreck a guy
by hitting him in the right rear. Right, you could
even get suspended for a race. But Ross Chastain pulls

(11:37):
up in front of a of a freight train of
cars going one hundred and ninety plus miles an hour,
and NASCAR is cool with that, where he could be
literally like pulling up in front of them and potentially
causing a big wreck, and he thought that that's something
that needed to be policed or limited. I don't know
that I necessarily see it that way. I mean, he's
taking his race into his own hands by doing that.

(11:59):
If he does call a wreck, different story, right, But
if he doesn't cause a wreck, I mean it opens
a Pandora's box because anybody who gets blocked can be like, oh, well,
they were trying to do what Ross Chastain did and
they should be penalized for it. And I think that
that I understand the spirit of what Denny is saying.

(12:20):
But it's a to me, it's tactics, right, and B
if you're gonna call a block on one driver, then
you got to call a block on a lot of drivers,
and that I just think that's gonna be a shitty
situation all the way around. And nobody wants to see
the race won and lost due to being policed for
a perceived.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Block, right exactly. And that's just it is a litigation
that comes with it, and you have to do this,
that and the other thing I can understand. I mean,
you look at it from a safety standpoint too, jumping
up like that, and that could be kind of deemed
as a safety thing, especially on a track like that. Yeah,
but I mean, by and large, I don't think there's anything.
I mean, it's all it's all gainsmanship, right, I mean

(12:59):
when when did when did the NASCAR the rebellious, the
rebellious spirit of that with you know, with a rum
running under the stands, When did that become just.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
He ran up in front of me, right, I know, right.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Whiny man, it's becoming you know, the old the old
guard of this is just becoming a bunch of complaining bitches.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, not to mention, you know, I mean, if a
Chevy had won, then maybe you would have a little
bit more of an argument. But a Ford freaking won
the race. So I mean he was taking one for
the team, and I thought it was heads up move.
But it wasn't like he was, you know, blocking one
manufacturer from winning to the benefit of his own right exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's not like he was protecting a team mate or
a manufacturer.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Right, And that's the thing. Yeah, Like if if Chas
Sing was running second at the time, right, and he
runs into a guy because Hamlin has you know, four
Toyotas behind him and they're making a run and he
misjudges the block and gets up into him, and because
of that, he like knocks the Toyotas out of winning
so his guy can win. That's one thing. But this
was a way different scenario than that.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah wait there, And I think just that,
I think it's also sour grapes. It's just like, eh, oh.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, a little bit, it was, for sure. And speaking
of sower grips, let's before we talk about the disqualifications,
let's talk briefly about the Legano Cindric things. So at
the end of stage two, Joey Logano and Bubba Wallace
were going back and forth for the top spot and
the stage victory. Austin Sindric, who was pretty fast, was

(14:31):
at the time he was on the high side and
he was behind I think he was actually behind Bubba Wallace, right,
But what happened on the last lap is that Sindric
either was laying back because he was trying to get
some help and get a run, or else, you know,
he you know, maybe Legondo just got out ahead of

(14:53):
him one way or the other. It was a little
bit of a gap. Sindric gets a pretty big push,
which is rare for this particular race. He got a
pretty big push, and once he got that push, then
the twenty two saw what he thought was a big
enough hole to get up in front of the two
and get a push maybe by Bubba, to win the stage. Well,

(15:13):
he pulls up in a move that was very reminiscent
of Us Chastain, Right, So what are you gonna penalize him?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
And Austin Sindric had such a head of steam that
he was like, holy shit, if I don't like back
off and try to move up the track, I'm gonna
I'm gonna wreck my teammate, and so you could see
that he lifted because whoever was behind him and I
can't remember who was at the time, got into his bumper,
and you know, Sindric's car was fishtailing a little bit.

(15:41):
He shoots a little bit up the track and because
of that, Bubba Wallace, who you know already had had
positioned on the track, he goes on to win a stage.
Joey Logano like blows up on his radio and says
that Austin Sindric is a shitty teammate, when in the end,
all Austin Sindric was doing was making sure that he
wasn't wrecking his teammate. And everybody made like a huge

(16:03):
deal about this about how much Logano like jumped off
on him, and then next thing you know, Chipper Jones
is talking about it on social media, like who cares
about that?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
When did Chipper become relevant against?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I know, right, I mean, I haven't heard of Chipper
Jones in a decade, and now all of a sudden
he's in the middle of this Joey Logano controversy. I mean,
in the end, to me, it was kind of a
non incident, like Syndric was getting out of the way
so it didn't wreck his teammate, Joey Logano blew up
for literally no reason, and after the race should have
watched the reaplane and been like, oh, yeah, sure, But
instead it became this thing. It was like literally a

(16:39):
non story that everybody was so desperate for a story
in this boring ass race, they decided to make that
a story.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
But I mean that you know, you have to find
it some way, right, You had to find story somehow,
some way. Yeah, But I mean you look at it,
and it adds to the drama that NASCAR can keep
promoting on themselves and everything like that.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
So well, I mean they were all too happy on
the broadcast to like literally type out a bleeped transcript
to go along with Joey's rantle.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Nah, yeah, I saw that thing. NASCAR put it online too, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Of course they didn't. I think you're right, they're literally
just searching for some drama and so like they're taking
this non event. All it really proves is Joey Logano
was a hot head, and they're taking this non event
and trying to blow it up into like some sort
of feud or rivalry and there was nothing there and
it didn't make a damn difference anyway, because Logano got
disqualified from the race. So even if you would have

(17:29):
won the stage, it wouldn't have mattered.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
No, I was all all to do about nothing.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, so it's crazy, Like you said the Fords were
fast at the end, you had Logano who was like
third or fourth, can't remember, he was in the top
four there pre second almost won the race and it
was darn good thing you didn't because Priese got disqualified.
Logano got disqualified, both because of spoiler issues. Priest had

(17:56):
too many shims under his spoiler, Logano had a bolt
missing from him is rear spoiler and neither of them
are repealing.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Now, both of them, Like yeah, that happens. Yeah, yeah,
I mean I almost I almost wish Ryan Priest would one.
So we have two straight weeks of disqualified winners. Yeah,
that would be nice. But here we are.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
But at least here, and to no credit of Nascars,
because they didn't explain this, at least here you can
understand why those particular infractions might rise to the level
of a disqualification, because when it comes to the rear spoiler,
I mean if you can make that rear spoiler deflect
just a little bit at those speeds, you could get

(18:37):
a top speed advantage on everybody else. You could be
a little bit faster than everybody else. And so at
least in this instance, then that then you can understand, Okay,
it's an arrow thing at a track where we all
know that arrow was a big, big deal. It wasn't
like last week when there was the like rear suspensiony

(18:58):
like thing surfaces mating and nobody told us how that
could create an advantage at that track.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right, yeah, So I mean at least they're just like, yeah, yeah,
we know, Oh well yeah, that could be a big
to do about it where they're just getting all up
at arms about things.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
So so Cyndric wins the race ratings, Oh my gosh, dude.
All right, so this was on Fox.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, last last network television to August.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I know, it's crazy. We don't get another network race
until freaking August, dude, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, you're
never gonna get new fans if you're not on TV.
And and I know, I mean I'm looking forward to
to getting to the Amazon Prime bit to see how

(19:49):
they do with it. And then what's the other one,
T N T or something like that. Yeah, I don't
I don't know how that's gonna work out. But but
in the end, if you're not putting it on network TV,
you're missing out on the crowd. And I think that
most NASCAR fans would admit that. All right, So four
point zero four to one million on the final race

(20:11):
of the year for Fox last year, and I'm fortunately
unfortunately because it was down, nobody wanted to sit what
the number was. But fortunately for us, I had those
numbers written down. Last year was four point three one
million on Fox. The year before that, in twenty twenty three,
was four point five to five million on Fox. So
over the past two years they've burned a half million people,

(20:33):
and then from last year it was a little over
two two hundred and sixty thousand or so. Right, And
you might say, oh, well, you know this doesn't directly
compare because there have been more races on FS one
this year as supposed to Fox. Doesn't matter because last
year was on Fox, the year before that was on Fox,
and in both of those instances, the races preceding immediately

(20:56):
preceding Talladega were on FS one, So it was a
very similar scenario and the numbers down a decent amount,
which is weird because this is a big time track.
It was on network television, and the races leading up
to this have been trending in an upward direction, so
it's kind of strange.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I'm very confused by this one. I you know,
I don't know if it's just promotion enough, people just
didn't want to watch, I mean, any kind of factors
that they were worried about the last the last eighteen
rounds of the NFL Draft. Who knows exactly, who the
hell knows. But I mean it's a little concerning, But
at the same time, it's not unexpecting because I don't

(21:35):
think NASCAR or I don't think Fox's promotion or even
NASCAR's promotion for all that matter, is any good anymo. No,
Like even on their socials. It's like the one thing
about Talladega, there's like phone phone this and you can
hear a pre recorded conversation from a driver about the racetrack.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
But going back to the to the college recruiting days,
who is that guy the great swam days?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Do we have oh yeah, do we.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Have a phone number that you call.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, so it's like every week. Well, this week I
think it's it's uh, it's Who's I think it's who's
the guy at Blaney, right, Brian Blainey. Yeah, let me
see if.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
You call a number and he talks to you.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, hold on, Well it's obviously pre recorded. It would
be so much matter if you call the NASCAR hotline.
Oh no, at the three three eight six, Uh huh
eight five four? Yeah, three zero zero two? What do
you hear this week? You can hear Ryan Blaney. You
can call Ryan Blaney, Yeah, hear how to watch all

(22:42):
the action from text?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh my gosh, you have to call a hotline to
figure out where to go to watch the race.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, oh my god, call the hotline.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh my gosh, this is triple star lock of the Week,
Triple star lock of the week.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
He will give you the ups and down.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh my god, when did this start? I never even
knew about this.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Last week you could call Kyle Busch on how to
watch all the action? Remember when you knew where the
races were going to be and how to watch him?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
And of course, because of NASCAR's core audience being having
the average age of like sixty eight and a half.
They're like, this is definitely the best way to do
it because they don't know how to use the internet,
so they have land lines. Call this landline. Then it
would be so much better if they actually had Ryan
Blaney sitting at a desk or like his cell phone

(23:36):
like it would ring, and he has a script in
one pocket and his cell phone and another one at
all times, and that he picks up the phone and
actually tells you himself where to watch the race.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
He's at the phone board, he's at the Yeah, yeah,
like the operator thing. I wonder, there's a question, I
wonder should I.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Call this called line?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Of course? Yeah, let's let's see. We'll track down and
then we'll go. Well, let me see if I want
to make sure that all my settings are right, because
there is a setting here on the on the Google
meets that. Okay, good, I turned my noise cancelation off.
What is it? What did I say it was?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
It was it was a local number somewhere.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, all right, all right, all right, So it was
one three eight six, okay, and then it was eight
five four three oh oh two call it speaker.

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that information again, Press one quick, press two.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Do you think they get points?

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I bet you they do. I bet you they do. Yeah,
double points. If somebody listens to the tattoo part.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, so yeah. If they listen to the fun fact,
you get bonus.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Exactly. Wow, that is definitely old school.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
That is the craziest thing I've heard.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Well it's not working because Talladega had that that would
be the lowest number for a Talladega race on Fox ever.
And the only reason to know that is because last
year when we did the show after Talladega, that four
point three one million was the lowest rated Talladega race
on Fox ever. And of course this one.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Is lower a four million, small numbers smaller.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, exactly, So it's got to be the new new record.
So it's a record setting season at least when it
comes to Talladega. It is perplexing, though, especially knowing now
that they have the phone number. It's doubly perplexing because
you would have thought this would be a more watch trace,
not a less less watch trace. Um and the standings.
William Byron, who finished this one, he's still up by

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thirty one points. He did lose just a few to
Kyle Larson, who did really on the stages and then
finished second in this race. Denny Hamlin is third, Chase
Elliott fourth, and despite having three victories on the season,
Christopher Bell trails by eighty two points in fifty got
wrecked by Denny part way through the race. Rest of
the top ten, you got Tyler Reddick, Bubba Wallace up

(27:23):
there in seventh, that's pretty impressive. His buddy who we
just heard from, Ryan Blaney in eighth, Alex Bowman ninth,
and them Ross Chestein tenth. That was Syndric's first victory
the season. We now have six winners in ten races,
only three drivers of one more than one race. That's
Belle Hamlin and Larson. Kyle Busch right now is sixteenth

(27:45):
in the championship, although we're a little early to be
thinking about the bottom of the standings. But the interesting
part is Josh Barry now out of the top sixteen.
So if the playoffs did start today, Bush would have
who was in on points, would have now been out
and aj Allmendinger would have had the final spot in
the points. However, if it stays this way all the

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way down to race number twenty six, then it could
be very very interesting because right now there are only
twenty five points separating a j Allmendinger in fifteenth and
Ty Gibbs all the way down in twenty seconds. It's
like eat drivers or so all separated by twenty five points.
And of course, you know you've got that Josh Barry
factor in there that you got to consider as well,

(28:27):
the Josh Berry factor. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, your kids won't get it, but you know, maybe
your kids will get it. I don't know, maybe maybe,
maybe baby, but anyway, Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Let's move on to the news, because we've gotten not
one on my like two small team drama stories. So
number one an update on the Legacy Motor Club Rickware
Racing lawsuit. This is the one where they came up
with the deal to sell one of Rickware's charters, but

(29:01):
they have a major disagreement on when Legacy is going
to take possession of that charter. Legacy was thinking it
was next year. Rickware says it was twenty twenty seven.
Legacy said they change a contract under their noses, and
that's what's got them in court. Legacy had gotten a
restraining order against Rickwire Racing, so they couldn't do anything

(29:24):
with the charter while they were doing like the discovery
process now they have filed for a full injunction or
a temporary injunction until the trial was over to prevent
Rickware Racing from either making a lease deal or selling
that charter to somebody else. That was denied. So Rickware
Racing won that part of it. I don't think that's
a big deal though, because per NASCAR rules, they can't

(29:48):
lease that charter to somebody else because it's being leased
right now. More that in a second. And secondly, they
actually do have a signed contract right and they haven't
agreed upon price and everybody put their signatures on it.
So even if Legacy loses this case, my understanding is
that they would still get the charter per the contract.

(30:08):
They would just get it in twenty twenty seven, and
Rickware can't sell it out from under them because they
already have a signed contract. They could just zue them
for the money.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
But here's the fascinating part. Oh yeah, it's very much
a fascinating part of this one. So the judge made.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
A comment, he come to judge, He come to judge.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, I guess in the in the paperwork they had
redacted some stuff. But the judge made a comment that
Legacy in the agreement, had apparently agreed to pay quote
unquote roughly forty five million dollars for the charter. Forty

(30:51):
five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
We have thirty eight cars on a possible forty car
field this weekend.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Why are you paying forty five dollars?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
There are two things that stand out to me about
that number one and down further you can see I
kind of went through the history of Riquer's charters. This charter, Yeah,
I believe that it was, yes, because this is when
they got from front Row, right, the other one they

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so they they they bought two of the front Row charters,
and they also got premiums. They they they their other
one came from a partnership they had with Petty. But
I believe the charter that they bought from front Row
Motorsports in twenty nineteen. The don't quote me on this

(31:45):
because I'm going from memory. I believe they purchased that
charter for two million dollars.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
That sounds right, That sounds right.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
And they're selling that same charter for forty five dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's a goodfing racket, man, Oh my gosh, is it
ever racket?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
That is insane, like, that's only twenty nineteen. That said
to be that long ago, six years ago, I mean
the like the rate of return.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
So thanks Obama the charter.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's all his fault. The charter that is in question
right now is currently being leased to the sixty car
of Ryan Price, and so basically they're they were leasing
it out for a year, then they're going to sell it.
Their other charter is being used by Cody Ware. That
one has been promised to RFK in the sixty car

(32:44):
as a least steal next year. And so I think
that's probably where this whole hitch comes in for Rickware Racing,
because it feels like what they were expecting to do
was get that sixty car charter back. They can't leave
sit out again for another seven years, so they're gonna
use it for a year for where until they could
get the other charter that they're leasing to the sixty

(33:07):
car back in twenty twenty seven. That's why they were
willing to then sell that charter out right in twenty
twenty seven. Who knows what they would do with where
after that, if they would turn around and sell that
charter too, or if they would just let wear keep racing,
although at forty five million dollars, if I were Rick
where I would be like, you know what, Legacy, you
can have it next year, Cody, Only thirty eight cars

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show up in any given weeks, so you just race
without a charter and then we'll sell somebody else your
other one too, exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I mean, it makes it makes all the sense in
the world.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
I would dump them all, man, I would dump them
all and then just go retire on a beach somewhere.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Why are people like this is why Legacy Motorsports can't advance?
I mean, and no money they need for research is
going to a goddamn charter that isn't needed well.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
And that's the other thing that sticks out to me
about this because in a world, in a world where
like the last most expensive charter I thought was like
in the twenties, it was like low twenties or something
like that. Right, Who who does Legacy feel so strongly
about that they want to put in one of their

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cars that they're like, it is worth it to us
to pay forty five fing million dollars to get a
charter for this particular driver, Like, who is that person
that they feel is worth paying forty five million dollars
just to get them on the track.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I can't think of anyone else.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I can't, you know. I mean, here's I guarantee you.
I guarantee you that there are cars on on this
in the field, there are maybe half the field or more,
that their entire budget for the year is not forty
five million dollars to run a car.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh God, no, I.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Would I would venture a guess that even like your
You're Chase Elliott's and your Ryan Blameey's, I would venture
I guess that even those cars don't really have a
budget to forty five million dollars in operating expenses on
the year. It might be close, but probably not.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, no, not at all. Here, here's here's the here's
another caveat. We have to take into it too. What
happens if the charter system goes away?

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I know, right, I mean right now they have a
contract for a while, But what if what if? What
if Denny Hamlin in front row? What if they win?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Right then?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
What happens You're forty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, that's not gone.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It's so dumb, and it's such a dumb system it's
such dumb money. Like I mean, I guess I know
why Jammie Johnson invested or got investors in it, because
they're throwing his money around like nothing. But there's no
reason for you to have and there's no dry unless
unless you're getting prime Dale Earnhardt Junior back. And I
don't mean the Amazon kind. You did no reason to

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pay forty five million for a charter.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
That means no, it's crazy. And according to Alan Iverson here,
it can cost anywhere between fifteen and thirty five million
dollars per year, depending on the team's resources and number
of races. So let's say that that top end number
is like what you would have for your best drivers,
then that means that Legacy thinks it's worth ten million

(36:17):
dollars more than it would cost to run Chase Elliott
seen for an entire year just to get a car
on the grid for whoever it is, or think you're
putting in that car. That's wild, dude.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
You know, they say a fool their money off in
part so, and we're I've seeing that in real time
right now.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And then you bring up a really good point about
what if the charter system goes away? Because yeah, they
have a contract right now for X number of years,
but we saw what happened at the end of the
last one. NASCAR just dictated the terms. So they can
just shut it off or do whatever they wanted. And
if the outcome in this case is against NASCAR, it
could shake up how this entire charter system works. At

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what point, if we've started with two million dollars, say,
and we're up to forty five million dollars sales, at
what point does that charter financially cross the line into
like a franchise style investment, you know, because I wasn't
an organization. That's just one fricking charter.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Right and yeah, one charter from a whole thing.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, that means if you want, that means right now,
if you wanted to start a two car team, you'd
be looking at ninety million dollars. Ninety million dollars, you
could probably buy most of the w NBA teams that
are that that are in the in the league, right
and and so at what point if just to get

(37:42):
on the grid, to get a starting spot in the
race for a team quote unquote, not just a car,
it's going to cost as much as a professional sports
franchise at the lower level, then then does that not
then back up with Demi Hamlin and Michael Jordan and
for Or Motorsports are saying about this hole monopoly thing,

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like these NASCAR teams are buying in at forty five
million dollars a charter on on like a gamble, Like
it's totally a wish in a prayer. Like if you
buy a minor league hockey team and the minor league
hockey team starts sucking, well, you still have a minor
league hockey team and you can turn around and sell it. It

(38:24):
still has value. It's not like the league is gonna
be like, oh, well, you know, we're just gonna stop
letting you play, and then all of a sudden, your
your investment in the team is worth nothing, you know.
It's they were trying so hard for years to get
the costs of the cars down to make it easier
for these owners to be able to compete in the sport.

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But it's not cheaper because all of the money that
they may be saving on these spec cars, they're just
dumping into charters. And at least if you're paying for cars,
you have a chance to win with those cars. If
you're paying for a charter, you don't even know if
at the end of the year, if it's gonna be
worth anything. It's unfathomable, it really is.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I mean that's what that's This is what NASCAR thinks
is the good for a free market. I know it's not.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
It's bizarre, man, it's bizarre. It's it's like the stock
market for stock cars.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Hey, stock car market.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, it's like the stock car market. You just have
to like you, you dump you, you plump down your
forty five mil and then you crush your fingers and
hope it all works out.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, you know, and often it does not.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, and somebody can say, oh, well, you know, free
market's applying demand. That still works in the leagues that
have you know, franchises. I mean, not every football team
is worth the same amount of money, because the ones
that are that perform better they're worth more.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Right, Yeah. And where's the demand though.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
And so there's still a free market that is in
effect there where you know, if you want a really
good football team, you're gonna have to pony up more.
You want a shitty football team, you can pony up
a little less. So. But but at least there's a guarantee that,
like if you buy the Washington Redskins, thank goodness somebody did,
there's still worth money. It's guarantee they're gonna be worth money.

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But with this forty five million dollar charter, who knows
what that's gonna be worth in one, two, five, ten
years from now.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, no one does. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
It's absolutely crazy silling. So that's Part one of Small
Team Drama. Part two of Small Team Drama. We're going
back to the classics. Man gotta play the hits. Maybe
we're going back to the person that the Small Team
Drama Award was named after. Welcome back, Rond Divine, my

(40:40):
God m BK Racing.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
The Lord God, King of himself being shit of Mountain.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
So apparently the NI Trust suit wasn't the only thing
only litigation the Front Row Motor Sports has been involved in. Uh,
they were suing Ron Divine and the other dude Michael
to Servia to Saveria to Saveria, who I guess was
involved in BK Racing. Were they were suing ef Ye

(41:09):
was suing them. The interesting part is why they were
suing them. So BK in twenty sixteen sold Front Row
a charter. Oh, this is the two million dollars, So
two million in twenty sixteen, and then in twenty twenty five,
nine years later, forty five million dollars. And when front
robought it, they were like, hey, you guys like you

(41:30):
don't have any like financial burdens on this charter anything, No, no, no,
that's cool, it's cool. Two million, We're done. Okay. Turns
out they lied. The BK had used that particular charter
to secure a nine million dollar loan that they were
in the process of maybe paying back. Well, we all
know what happened with BK. They started paying nobody back,

(41:53):
and in the interim before they completed the purchase of
the charter, front Row was like, okay, well, we know
you're kind of shady, so we're gonna make you and
this other guy sign a contract saying that if we
incur any extra costs outside of our purchase price related
to this charter and the lean that you've got on it,
you guys have to pay it. Well, a front Row,

(42:17):
this is your on, damn faull. I mean, come on,
everybody knew what was going on with Ron Devine and
you still made this deal. B Unsurprisingly, when the bank
found out that the that they had made a loan
to a person a with this thing is collateral, but
now person B owned the collateral. Then they were like no, no, no, dude,

(42:37):
you got to pay up front. Remoter Sports had to
pay two point one million dollars to make the bank
go away. They turned around and went to Ron Devine,
and Ron Devine was like, wait, who who are you
looking for? No, ro No, mister Divine isn't here today. No,
he won't be back tomorrow either. I can pencil you
in sometime in twenty thirty meeting. And again, unsurprisingly, he

(43:04):
he didn't pay up and so front Row sued and
won a big shocker. But just winning a court case
against Rond Devine doesn't mean you're gonna get any money.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
No, god no.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
And so I'm sure that we haven't heard the end
of this. I'm sure there's more that it's going.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
To be involved in this, and you know what, I
hope so, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Because I mean NASCAR is better with Ron Divine.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, we're all better with him in it.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah. So, and they're gonna have to pay two point
five million two point one the money that if I'm
paid to the bank and then the rest of it
goes to legal fees and interest.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Interesting, Yeah, But as we all know, Ron Devine might
offer them some NFTs, but he won't actually pay them anything. No,
he might ask them to pay themselves for a little while.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
It's like you own you own it now.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
I'm good. I'm good for it. If you could. If
you guys just want to low me a little bit
of money that I could pay you, then I'll pay
you back for that. Don't worry with interest.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, we'll make sure. Don't worry. We'll make sure, you know,
sign a piece of paper for it, trust me, bro So.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
But the best part is we now have another candidate
for the Raw Divine Award, and it is Rod Divine.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You know, legends never die, oh they don't. Legends never
die remembered, but legends never.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Dies, especially when that legend is Rod Divine.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
God bless Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
The trail, the trail of people that he stiffed in NASCAR,
just continues on into I mean, we're nearing.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
A decade and now it's monumental.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It is monumental.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
But everybody knew he was a shyster, and they kept
doing fkad deals with him, like people kept taking jobs
with BK Racing, and then people kept buying charters from him,
Like well, you guys are idiots.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Man, It's like, yeah, he's a scumbag, but he owns
Burger King exactly. O. I mean, he can't be that
bad of a guy. They're flame broiling and they're little
did people know they're flame broiling the books?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Just to break it down for people who were not,
you know, watching Nascar in twenty sixteen, BK Racing was
basically the fire Festival of Nascar.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Tons of promises, none of which were ever delivered.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Actually they actually provided something, They provided something.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Entertainment some I don't know if it's necessarily that they did.
They did introduce everybody to a young kid named Alex Bowman.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's true, yeah, run, but Ron Devine didn't have to
send somebody to blow somebody for water, So I don't
think it's necessarily firefest firefester. Now. Now, oh bike racing bike.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Oh bike e Racing is fire festival too, yeah yeah,
along with the money team, although really oBike is more
so festival too than even the money team.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Money actually get on track exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah. BK Racing didn't have
somebody come and take their engines during the weekend. Oh man,
maybe they did. I can't remember. They might have had
that done to them too, could have been oh so
much in the Yeah, there's so much that happened back then,
and I have to look that up after the show.

(46:30):
All right, So we've had a lot of bad news,
small small team drama, Talladega sucked. Now it's not for
some good news. There was a report multiple people within
the target organization, which will be the Professional Golfers Association Tour,
multiple people in PGA circles have confirmed that NASCAR newly

(46:57):
minted NASCAR Commissioner Steve Felt one half of whole new
job form, one half of the Steves is being considered
to become the next PGA Tour commissioner.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
That's amazing, I mean, how amazing is that that the
job you just got creative for you can get you
to places.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Like that, I know. I mean you don't even have
to like do the job for more than a couple
of weeks and you're already getting phone calls and offers.
I would say, and Scott, I don't want to speak
on your behalf, but I think I'm feeling pretty comfortable
here just saying this as a general like Olive Branch
from the show, mister Phelps, if you need a reference

(47:42):
at all, we don't come to us. No, No, we
would be more than happy. We'd be more than happy
to provide you a glowing reference about how the PGA
Tour could use somebody amazing like yourself.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
How about we just talked to former former NBC golf
analyst Ryan Boujee our boy.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Oh yes, we can get ballengeing Ballenge. You probably knows
somebody inside that can help make this happen exactly, and
we'll just tell him.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Please, for the love of God, you would be foolish. Oh,
absolutely not to pick. You've got to the director of. Yeah,
just play it where it lies.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh see, you'll be perfect in that role.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, director of I don't know how you the sand
wedge here.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
If you felps do it, Let's do this man now
with our luck. Basically, what they would do is just
take the other Steve and move them up to commissioner.
But I'm hoping that even if that were the response
that eventually something at high enough of a level would
come open to the outside world that there's a tiny
and I know it's small, but a tiny, tiny chance

(48:50):
that they could find somebody competent to put into whatever
that role is. It might help move us in the
right direction to having our our whole marketing plan in
NASCAR and not be Hey, doll, this number and Ryan blame.
You'll tell you about his tattoo and.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Then tell you where to watch the ring.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Tell you where to watch the race. Yeah, we might
be able to move a little bit past the eight
seven seven numbers.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Right exactly, even eight seven seven we couldn't do that way.
They get dead Florida numbers get it that way.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
So I'm hoping I had my Figers crossed because NASCAR
needs to shake up, and NASCAR themselves aren't willing to
shake things up. So maybe if the PGA Tour could
help NASCAR shake things up, we would all be very
grateful for that.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
We would be even.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
If it amounts to nothing. At least it was a try.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
At least they tried, They attempted, They made the attempt. Yeah,
I forgot court. The joy ran for PK racing too.
Oh Diddy instead of David Rudiman.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Rudy, Did I do remember that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
And then and then Travis Quopple uh met the Bedada
Da Dado.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Oh yeah, I met to Bendetta for sure.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Ryan Ellis, Yeah, former sponsor driver. A lot of guys
ran for this garbage team. I only know this because
I'm on eBay looking for stuff for oh right, right right,
so but anyway, yeah, there we go.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Oh no, it was I it was no bike, although
I'm sure this happened to a bike of two, but yes, in.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Two.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
What what race was that? Oh, Daytona, Oh and Daytona.
It was in Daytona in twenty eighteen that race. Engines
Plus at one point refused to start the engine of well,
at least what are the BK Racing cars because at

(50:43):
the time they were owed just over a half million
dollars by BK Racing And they were like, you know what,
you can either tell us how you're going to pay us,
or we're just not going to start this engine for
you're take We're gonna take the keys and we're gonna
swallow them.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, and then you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Have to wait until they come out the other end.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
You're gonna have to figure it out out.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, that is the legacy that is
BK racing. God bless oh man. So yeah, we'll find
out if the Steves stay together, or maybe one Steve
could take the other Steve with him.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I was gonna say they can't be a part that would.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Be even better. Oh man, Well, I'm down the sponsor news.
I don't know if you have anything else.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
No, well, I got an activation news in the sponsor Okay.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Well, the only sponsors I have are Worth moving over
to the Wood Brothers. They'll be on the number twenty
one with Josh Berry at Texas. I don't know if
there's gonna be any other races beyond that point. But
this is interesting because Worth has been around for a
long time in the Cup Series, over a decade, but
they've always been with Penske on the two and then

(51:54):
the past couple of years at twelve. So this moved
to the twenty one is a relatively big deal, I think.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Well, I also think it's probably just one of those
things where Penske is like, we'll help you out fill
out some of these dates.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Sure love a little bit, yeah yeah, yeah, And then
Cats Katsz Cat's Coffee Insurance. The Cat's Insurance Coffee will
be on the number seven with Justin Haley this weekend
at Texas with a green car.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
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Speaker 3 (53:11):
They're the youngest men in the world.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
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Speaker 3 (53:16):
Are they like all dude? Are they like wrestling babies?
Is that what they are?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
When?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
What's their name?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Dude? You got to look up The Outrunners?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Okay, the out Runners. Aw. Okay, let's see what we
got here.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
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Speaker 3 (53:39):
I do love the sarcasm.

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Speaker 3 (54:19):
On, man, and they're not even real. They're virtual.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
They're virtual.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
The Youngest Men a lot. Okay, they are hilarious.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I have two observations. Number one, I do appreciate the
old school breadth the Hitman heart shades that they apparently
like to wear every so often. And number two, just
based on the screenshots, I'm going to have to watch
a little bit of their mic work because it looks
it looks a bit over the top.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
They are a throwback to the nineteen.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Eighties, even the outfits.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Man, oh yeah, the Neon, the Florida look, and they
are hilarious.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
No, uh, that's great. Yeah, I definitely have to check
them out. Oh man, what else we got?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Oh what what's that?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
We got Texas?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
So we got Texas? That's right. Oh wow, okay, and
you already said that there are thirty thirty eight thirty eight,
so that's more than thirty six.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah. Jesse Love and Chad finchhaman this week.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Jesse Love like his walk on song should be like
something really like, you know, Love is the Battle feeling smooth? No,
I'm thinking more like like chef from South Park. What's
his name?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Isaac Isaac?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Like some Isaac Hays is Jesse Love.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I would go with Jesse's girl.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Oh, Jesse's girl? What's his name? Rick Springfield still has
a radio He's got a radio show on Serious XM.
Sure does channel. I actually quite enjoy it. It's not bad.
It does well. Yeah, so you got Jesse Lovin and
who is Chad Fincham Now? Yeah, he's in there.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Sixty six.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Ye oh, garage sixty six. Okay, so we got a
fincham sighting. Okay, uh, I know, right, which brings us
to the only good thing on NASCAR dot Com, which
I have subsequently ruined. And then it was good for
a while that it was kind of in the middle.
They're getting better than have eighty two paint schemes in
the paint scheme preview, So I think they're doing Okay,

(56:37):
there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Of it's base.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I'll give him. I'll give him over a fifty score. Okay,
that's they're trending up successful, put it that way. But uh,
but there are some there are a few special pain schemes.
What what do you? What do you? What do you like?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
As we head towards I'm starting, I'm starting in the X,
going to give it to you.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
They're going to give it to you.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I'm gonna give the number ninety one Italian ice. Oh yeah,
it looks great.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Have Reda's out here.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Dude, I got to I got I gotta read it
down the road from I gotta rita the funny, funny story.
So I drive down half a mile. I've got a
murderer's row. I gotta I gotta McDonald's, and then I
cross I crossed the street. Then I gotta feed a
KFC an olive tree, Aledo, a Chaps, and then the Riatas.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I'm very jealous. You got a Liedo and Arita's right there,
Lito and Chaps your next story to each other.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Come on, man, the pit be you could put You
can get yourself a pit beef sandwich and get a
nice little never cut corners pizza. Throw one on top
of the other. Which one you want to do it?
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
And out here we don't even have any of those three.
No Riata's, no Chaps, Noledo, unrefined, very unrefined, unrefined scumbags.
You've gotta have the ice with the like like whipped
goo on top.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah. The mozzarella, Stop mozzarella?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
What stop mozzarella? Sure? Pretty sure? Seems like it's a mozzarella.
It's marshmallow. It's like marshmallowy stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I think it's too close to the goal.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
It's the goal, man, it could be I it could
be mashed potatoes.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
What what makes it Italian? The mozzarella dog top? You
eat an ego Mama, you got a cherry one. Not
it's just Mari and arrow and it. Man, you just
gotta vanilla ice cream with tomatoes. You got yourself almost

(58:46):
a pizza. Give me the number sixty sixty. Speaking of
almost food, give me the half loaf. Oh, you gotta
have the half loaf.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Like, I don't even understand what the story behind that is,
but it's epic. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
But there's grilled cheese on the side of it.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
There's just a giant grilled cheese on the side. And
then it just randomly says half loaf and we don't
know why.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
It's a Sarah leek half little.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
You just buy a half loaf, Like, just buy a loaf. Man,
you're not even saving that much money.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I'm sure you buy the half loaf. I don't know
by the half loaf, because that's all if you pay
full price. But you're getting a half loaf.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
That's how that's how all the grocery prices are coming down.
You just get half now, Yeah, maybe pay for a
full loaf if you just get a half loaf.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
These ships aren't coming to port. We ain't gonna have
stuff in a minute.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
We're not gonna have to pay ten dollars and does
a freaks anymore? We're just not gonna have any eggs.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
No, exactly, I wanted can I bring up? Can I
bring up a fault? This is not a pick of mine.
I want to bring up a fault right now. And
you rag on on fifth third bank.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Everybody knows it's one in two thirds.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
That's what, okay, and they're there this week. That's not
my pick, and neither is this one.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
What what?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Why? Why did seven eleven go with the number eight car?
You had the seven car right up there. It looks
so dff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
It looks eighty seven eleven. Yes, seven has a special
sponsor in the cat's coffee. They could have just been
the seven and then dash.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Eleven car exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
They could have made the seven on the side, the
seven from seven to eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
They didn't. Yeah, terrible and the yeah, the seven eleven
on the eight looks stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Oh man, you know what, I liked that car until
you just said that. And now that now that's all
I see is an eight, and I'm like that does
it now? It's the eighty seven eleven car? Yeah, chatter
village running that one? Stop it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
But give me the uh give me the beatbox I
don't know what the hell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
That beat box car is epic. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That looks so that is such a Florida car. Why
are we running this note?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Why? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Why is that in Texas? That should absolutely be a
Homestead car. That that should be the car doing the
partnership with the outrun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Ye oh god, that would be perfect that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
It looks like like there their stick right there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Man the youngest man alive with one of the youngest
drivers alive, and Riley hurts perfect man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Man, Oh gosh, okay, so I got to pick three here.
You've already picked some pretty good ones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Because, like I said, everything else is like basic.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, everything else is basic. Okay, So here's what we're
gonna do. I was gonna pick the seven to eleven
a car until you pointed out the eight and I'm like,
oh crap, that's all I can see you Now, that's it.
It's hard to alright, let's good your bubble there. No, No,
it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. There are some other ones.
Do do do do? I'm not going to pick this one,

(01:01:42):
but I'm intrigued by the Blues Hog Chevrolet. The eighty eight.
The con results is running. It looks like it could
be a good car, but I'm just undecided.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
That's the weather, that's Yeah, it is kind of a
simple car. I like. I like the colors, the color
palette though.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
That's kind of what I like about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
But I'm but I'm wondering. Is it the blues from
Blues Cruise or is it the blue from from from
Old School? But I don't either way, I don't want
to see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Their hog Yeah, I know, right, that is the weird part,
almost almost as weird as the number one in the
truck series. Is that a large ant head on the
side or a wasp head?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
It certainly is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Oh yeah, it's very scary. I don't like that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Could looks I mean, kind of looks like a boss
with a striping.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Creeps me out, dude, shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
So it is an it's an ant, it's an ant.
It's an ant killer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Oh it was still creepy. Shout out. Scott bord Shadow
not friends of the show, but you know, but he
was nice to me the one time I met him
with his bourbon there. But no, I'm gonna go with uh.
In the X Series number forty five Mason Massey with
the Brunt Workwear Chevrolet. I like the kind of burnt
orange on the brunt car. Yeah, it's kind of like

(01:02:56):
a dark orange geometric pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
I dig that one. Then moving up to the cup,
Oh wow that rhyme? Oh oh man that that Uh
that Carson Voppel car looks pretty good too, the little
car on the side. But I'm not gonna go with
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Um, have to ride the Dente ride the way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Oh, I'm looking at Carson hopover car.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Oh okay, he's got to ride the Dentate car.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, the the the Carson host of her as the
chilies ride the dent Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I didn't know that's what they were doing in the car.
That's hilarious. Oh my gosh. I saw a commercial for
that the other day and it was actually really well done.
It was really funny. Uh. Let's oh, yeah, it does
say ride they they should have committed to that bit
more on the seventy seven car is taking the chilies
off the side altogether and just gone with that ride
the Dentate theme like over the entire car. That would

(01:03:53):
have been epic Instead I'm gonna go with I will
take the number nine Chase Elliot Apple one anniversary car.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, they're they're running across a lot of schemes, but
I think it's I think it looks nice.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Yeah, there's one of the truck series too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
There's one of the Kyle Larson's series too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Oh oh really? Okay? Whatever, no limits, hold them no limits,
told them no limits.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I think it's just no one no limits making say.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
And I was going to pick I was gonna pick,
like maybe the Tyler Reddick, but instead, since you picked
the giant grilled cheese on the car, I will pick
the giant pizza on the car and go with cool
Custer in the Red Baron.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Red Baron stuffed pizza too. Love me some Red Baron pizza.
Not gonna lie that is probably on Red Baron probably
my favorite. Oh really yeah yeah right on, my favorite
take home pizza.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I will have to drink some that this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, I am gonna say. I'm gonna say, first off,
it sounds very lude the Red Barn stuffed.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah, stuffed pizza. It just says red bearn.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Secondly, I'm glad that we're gonna have two Italian sponsors
in Red Barren and exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
You get dinner, you get dessert.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Come on, Oh, it's the same. It's it's it's dinner.
And then it's like the the entree is the pizza,
but your appetizer is the mozzarella and and and everything
on top of the ice cream. It's the mozzarella and
the mari and earra on top of the ice cream.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
That's what they do. That's how they make a genuine
Italian man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Oh man, I love the strawberry sauce. That's mari and era.
Oh god, well, this marshmallow is great. Got a problem
with that for you too. You're not gonna like this
at all?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Can you imagine what that would taste like?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Don't wanna?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Oh, we got to make picks, so shit, I forgot
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I got a big win.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
You did?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah with Michael McDowell.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Didn't I? Oh I had Tyler Reddick, didn't I?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Tyler Reddick at fourteen? McDowell eleven for me? Big winner.
Also Michael McDowell the fastest in the race.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Hey, what happened with the side beat?

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I bet you she qualified?

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
She the race? Really? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
And she you hit exact the thirty four.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Nice, That's what I'm talking about. But yeah, but the
fastest last week Michael McDowell Ty Gibbs was the most
led uh lapster led there. So there we go. But anyway,
so since I won, you get the full thirty eight including.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Well you said you said McDowell had the fastest lap.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Last week he had the fastest slap in Daytona two
I think, or one of the or maybe it was yeah, yeah, interesting.
They can get those cars or he can get that
that car going, It doesn't matter who he's driving for man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
He and he also finished eleventh of Daytona too, even
though he's there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Yeah. Okay, so Texas, we're talking intermediate intermedia track here,
give me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Intermediate track, but does have the ability to be fast too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I'll go just because this will be fun if
he does this and then everybody goes ape ship over
him again. Give me Seabell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Interesting, Okay, you know Ford, but I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Know that the towyters are probably gonna be pretty tough
to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what. Give me the guy
who we talked to earlier, who was on the show
now friend of the show, Ryan Blaney.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Okay, yeah, I was thinking about Blaaney mylf you know,
because of how what Penske did this week. And but
those Toyotas were looking pretty good before they got before
they got stuffed by Ross Chastain. So and of course
Bell didn't get a chance to show what he really
could do. So this would be good, This would be good,
you know, Penske versus versus Toyota m hm. And then

(01:08:23):
do we have it? Do we have a side bet?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I mean, are we I'm looking I'm looking right now
to side bed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
I'm looking Fincham or just Jesse Loose.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
We did Jesse love earlier this year?

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
We did?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
We did so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Oh my gosh, I have to look up Chad Fincham's stats.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
You're gonna look up Chad fincham stats. Let's do Chad
Chad Fincham's stats. Dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Oh my gosh, dot com. It's dot net. There were there.
There wasn't new one last week, but they are. They're
gonna keep like it's not like a start restart or anything.
It was so bad, yeah, but but they were like
it says if they were listening to the show, because
they were literally doing it's duck COPD cop Oh my gosh,

(01:09:16):
are we looking at it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Am?

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
I looking at Chad Finch?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Oh, that's his Chad Finch stats the year of Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Oh my goodness. Okay, so Chad Fincham everybody's run nine
Cup races over the last four years. He's run nine.
He's attempted ten. It looks like went two, three, four, five, six, seventy. Yeah,
run nine, attempted ten. The DNQ was at Daytona and
the Daytona five twenty. This will be his first first

(01:09:43):
race of the year last year with NBA. Oh man,
So he has never had a Cup Series finish above
thirty third, just to set that baseline out there, but
he's never had a Cupsteries finished below fortieth.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Well, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Oh man, He he has he has. Oh no, he
has finished thirty ninth twice and fortieth once. But that's
that's good for him. His average finish is gonna go up, yeah,
because he can't finish thirty ninth or fortieth, could finish
thirty eighth though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I like his odds.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Oh no, So do you want to uh, do you
want to take a swipe at this first kind of
set for me. Yeah, oh man, in that garage sixty
six car. God, it's such a bad car car along
out of thirty eight, but he does have Jesse Love
in there and not a lot of expence.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
I know that Beard Motorsports car is pretty set up
though he's running the sixty two.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
So you know Cody Ware is out there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, give me Kenny Schrader's old number, the M and
M's car. Thirty six.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Wow, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
This is so tough, right because like if there's like
an early accident with some people you wouldn't have expected,
then boom, he's above thirty six. Yeah, but the way
things have been going with like no cautions, if you
had thirty six, Carson Hosavars in this race.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
He's running. Well, I'm not gonna let you be smirched.
Carson Hosts.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Plus he's gonna ride the Dent Day, so that's gonna
be good d D Day. Ummm all right, I'll pick
him dead last. Give me thirty eighth.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Wow, okay, seven we pushed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
It would be pretty consistent, It really would.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Yeah, that would be wonderful if we did that. Oh no, no,
there we go, We've done it. Oh Man for the race,
I picked Ryan Blaney. You picked Chris Bell on the
side for Chad Finch and finish, you pick thirty eighth.
I picked thirty. We have all the faith in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Thirty A push, easy man, the board resets. We go
do more or nothing on the next round. Oh man.
So if you want to find out who wins the race,
who wins the bet, who wins the side bet, and
whether it was any good guse you're probably not gonna
watch it, especially based on what we saw. Tell egg
you're not gonna watch it. Come back next week. We'll
talk about the race, tell you what happened, talk about

(01:12:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
In the Draft show, dot Calm, it's not calm, it's
not net. They're they're running two wide there. It's amazing
when third a third guy coming down to the bottle
like every porn you've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Oh hey, man, if.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
You're on social media, I don't know why you are.
Right in the draft, show on all the socials, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
by that, you know, the socials. There's plenty more social
medias out there that some people use and many people don't.
So don't look for us wherever until then. That's it.
That's all for Wilson. I wanted to take care yourself.
And someone else has been in the draft with Wilson
and wanted some history lessons for you. Yes on this

(01:13:22):
May this we're already a made.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
I know it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Heard of the year is over dog?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Hey. King Richard, the First of England gives Portsmouth it's
first royal charter this day in eleven ninety four. Okay, congrats.
Fifteen thirty six and Bolyn, Queen of England, is arrested
in prison for charges of adultery, incest, trees and in
witch craft. Oh wow. Years later married Queen of Scott's
in fifteen sixty eight, escapes from Lochlaven Castle Paul, So

(01:13:52):
there you go. Sixteen eleven, the Kings James version of
the Bible is published for the first time in London,
England by printer Robert Barker. Bye business, Bob Barker, Bob Barker.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Oh, I thought you were going to say he was
a Travis Barker's dad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I was gonna say great, great, great grandfather. Then I'm like,
great Robert Robert is Bob Barker, Bob Barker.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Holy crap. I mean, I knew he was old, but
that gone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
That's amazing. But else, that's not a good one. That's
anything called outbreak is not good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Nothing called an uprising is good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Nineteen oh six the closing ceremony of the Intercalculated Games
in athen Greece, which was the modern day Olympic game.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Oh okay, right on, how about that? Yeah? Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
The first game of the Negro National League Baseball has
played in Indiapolis, date in nineteen twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Wow that late, huh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Interesting? Pretty crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Nineteen sixty nine nice the Ocean British Ocean Liner Queen
Elizabeth the second the Parts Here Voyage for New York City. Okay,
right on, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
That that one did not sink, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yeah, yeah, pretty sure it didn't. Uh, this day in
nineteen eighty six, everything was fine and chernobyl.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Oh no, it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Was six days after. There was six days after. Oh,
everyone was evacuated because it's like, hey, might might want
to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah. Yeah. They were like, uh, you know it's a
there's a lot of traffic and you might want to
clear out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yeah. This day in two thousand, President Bill Clinton announced
that accurate GPS access would no longer be restricted. Oh,
that's the US military. He was like, I'll tell you
we need, we need, we need to make sure we
know where everyone's at. So my wife can't come in
here when I'm doing exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
He just wanted to make sure you knew where she was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Yep. This day in twenty eleven, Oh, some have been laden.
Oh some have been dead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Yep, forget about it. Don murdered.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Anito Santiago.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Good. That's a good thing to end on. Happy birthday
to uh Tokugawa hit A tata a shogun oh pan Nice,
who ruled from sixteen five to sixteen twenty three. He
was born in this day in fifteen seventy nine. Wow,
congratulations to him, Ladies and gentlemen. Congratulations do you get

(01:16:27):
in through the show. We will talk to you about
Tejas No next week. Until then, I don't hate you,
but I hate to critique overrate you, these beasts.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Of a drop.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Thanks for listening to In the Draft with Wilson and
Waz

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