Hall of Fame Selections, Penske Drama, Coke 600

Is NASCAR's Hall of Fame talent pool already getting thin? We discuss the 2026 class, along with Penske drama at Indy (and whether it will affect Austin Cindric), the latest NASCAR News, and our Paint Scheme Preview and Picks for the Coke 600!

The Rundown:

- The All-Star Race was fun - and absolutely did NOT need the gimmick-caution
- NASCAR Ratings are...meh
- NASCAR News:
- 2026 Hall of Fame Inductees - are things getting thin?
- Penske Drama - will the IndyCar Cindric getting fired affect the NASCAR Cindric?
- Driver and Sponsor News
- Coke 600 - Our Paint Scheme Preview and Picks

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George and this time smoking like hell now coming down,
don't anything and welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson
and was I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile
right across the internet from your beautiful studio by the
Day version two points hereo. It is what mister Scotty

(00:24):
was what's happened to? There was man.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Further proof that Teresa Earnhardt is the worst person possible.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
She got that land deal done, didn't she?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh kind of yeah, but it's I'm talking about a
a a article that Ken Bab of The Washington posted
with Dale Junior and Kelly Earnhart okay, and I guess
it was in preparation and promotion of the Amazon series.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's all O, sure, okay, right right, yeah, they've got
the Earnhart thing.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, so it was in the story it was revealed
that Dale Junior and Kelly are not welcome to visit
Dale Senior's grave site because property owned by Teresa.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh my gosh, you gotta be kidding me, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Kelly is quoted as saying she's so extreme that we
might get arrested.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
That is crazy, yeah, and that that is extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's very extreme, and that's very psychotic. And wow, maybe
any of the any of the fucking will that she got.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
That is crazy. And on top of that, we didn't
talk about it a few weeks ago, but there was
an article saying that that deal that she wanted to
get done to like sell off part of Dale Senior's
land to be basically developed into like a housing community
was approved, and so she sold off part of the
farm too. She literally sold the farm.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Not shocked. It's not a surprising situation. Wow, that's wild, dude,
pretty wacky.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, that's way worse than selling the farm.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I'd say wow, that's nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
So, uh, all stories last weekend, Hoke six hundred this weekend,
Indy five hundred this weekend, which also that means I
believe Monico GP this weekend in Formula.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
One Star it's at nine am.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Nice, so you you can literally just sit down at
nine am watch Formula one Monica, then watch the Indy
five hundred, then watch the NASCAR race on Sunday if
you want to.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I will say Amazon, So it's the first Amazon.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That is is right, it is the first Amazon, and
I you know what I am looking forward to seeing
what kind of coverage they have. I'm not getting my
hopes up too high, but I am a little bit
encouraged that they might do something fun or good.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
The wheel will not be reinvented. I will guarantee that's
my five star lock of the week.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, it's you know, they just have too much of
the same thing for it to be like a real,
real reinvent.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, and again, what can you do to reinvent what?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
You're right? What can you do? Really?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Sorry? Round it goes in circles? I mess with them.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, maybe I'll have some fancy graphics or something. Maybe
maybe stick with me here, maybe to helping, you know,
like attract a younger crowd. Maybe they'll have like a
cartoon gopher. Let's say that digs holes in the infield
and just like pops up at random during the race. Hey,

(03:14):
I'm a little gopher digging holes in the thing.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh man, that'd be great, wouldn't it. And call him
Goey Goey the Gopher.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I like that idea a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, I think it's you know, it's unique, it's something new. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Then then if it takes off, they can make little
cartoons and stuff and then you play those like for
the kids before the race, and it'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah. No, Amazon's got this going on.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
They should definitely have a cartoon Gopher.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Not gonna lie. The Gopher was a little ahead of
its time back in the early two thousand.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
If they would have done that now, we probably would
have gone viral.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
At least a lot of musters. It would have been fantastic.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, at the very least, it would just remind
everybody of BUCkies.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh yeah, oh god, that overrated place.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I've never been to one, so I am neither.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
But I just the buzz. I'm the buzz is not
worth what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I guarantee Digger and friends everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
So I gotta be so careful with that name.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, what possessed them? I how did I forget? Oh no,
Oh it's worse.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, that's why I didn't say the name. That's why
I said composed a song.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
And I'm not even gonna say the name of the song.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
No, don't, don't. You shouldn't. Oh no, first from there end,
that's not a whole thing about Hey, this might be
you know, if.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I say it might be a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
If you say it wrong, could go south a long
in a big way. Now they're just like, well, go
for Diggs. That sound logic, sound logic, Fox Team.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Oh no, this is so bad.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's not a it's not a wow fun of it.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
That was the two thousand and nine season.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Everybody, really, it was that close.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
God, I thought that was like in early two thousands. No,
I mean well, I mean I thought what happened was
Dale was Wasdale Dale Senior died, the Gopher came up
and then nine to eleven time.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
No, it was much later.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
The greatest tragedy is happening exactly.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Oh my gosh, wow, man, that and you know, I mean, honestly,
they they basically they got rid of it because Kyle
Larson was coming up through the ranks and they didn't
want any issues there.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
So he's they're the same height exactly, and then he's
going to say something on scream exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
And really I think that's what he was referring to.
He just was watching some old NASCAR broadcasts at the time,
and he was like, oh, hey.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Look exactly. He got excited when came on screen. Oh no, uh,
not A lot of people got excited for this race.
They was on screen this past weekend. You know.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, so here's the thing. It's just me the for
for a couple of drivers, not the majority, but for
a few drivers, this was an interesting race, and I
thought that the ending was good. Of course it was
manufactured because they threw the bullshit caution. But the part
that really really really gets me is that, yeah, there

(06:19):
were only a couple of cars that were really good
in this race, right, But it looked like we might
have gotten a setup between Christopher Bell and Joey Logano organically,
like Bell may have been able to make up the
gap and then the race would have been on. And instead,
you know, when Bell's a half second behind Logano, they

(06:40):
throw the stupid ass caution line everybody back up, and yeah,
of course you got something exciting there because you lined
everybody back up with a handful of laps left to go,
and then there was some contact and Bell gets ahead
and then that's the race. Right. But we saw in
that final run that it wasn't just that Bell got
to Logano and laid the bumper to him, got into

(07:00):
it a little bit on the side, or whatever. The
reason he got there is because Legano's car was starting
to go away on it, and we saw that over
the last couple of laps, because Logano was fighting for
second and third at that point, he wasn't even trying
to come back to get the win. And so if
his car was going away that much, then we may
have been able to get the same style of ending

(07:22):
without the stupid gimmick, and it would have been ten
times better, would have been way more exciting of a race.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, no, exactly. And then they had they had to
had this little promoter's caution and they set off all
these fireworks and all this dumb stuff and then oh.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
The fireworks were the worst. It's like they were celebrating
a bullshit caution.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't. I don't think
that gets that. It gets the people in attendance that
hard that it's just like, oh dude, I am so
horny for the promoter's caution.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
It doesn't do it. It doesn't do a damn bit different.
Like it's like you said, like it was catching up
and that in that track, like you saw through the day,
even through the the the qualifier, the open race, guys
were catching up in a big way, especially for people
who were wearing down their tires. I mean, John Hunter, Nimachek,
you saw in the open that you know came from
the back and guys were losing quick because Bubba Wallace

(08:13):
dropped back in a big way in that open. Yeah, so,
I mean it was there was a lot of stuff
there that could have happened, and nope, we got a
bunch of them all up because TV says it says.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
So, yeah, it's nuts. And one way or the other,
if they would have gone green to the end, one
of two things would have happened. Bell would have caught Logano,
We would have had a fight for the win, or
Logano would have had to drive the freaking wheels off
the car to hold Bell off. And either way, you've
got a good race because you had guys that were really,
really racing hard and they were gonna race really hard

(08:43):
all the way to the end because there was a
lot of money on the line. And so, you know,
it's funny because the same NASCAR that says all we
won Game seven moments is also the NASCAR that when
there's a blot, they're like, oh, can't you respect the
fact that you know this guy was better than everybody. Yes,
we And the thing was this was somewhere in between.

(09:03):
There could have been a great finish, but one way
or the other, these guys were racing their asses off.
So let us just appreciate that we already have too
many effing cautions to begin with.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, and I mean it was a better race than
last year.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean it was it was better than last year.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I mean it was something they got the people going.
I mean it was somewhat exciting, albeit for really nothing.
I didn't watch on TV. I was listening on the XM.
How much did they horn up of the manufacturers thing? Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah? They kept talking about that, and then afterwards we
were like, okah, sh every one, I'm like, what they
didn't win anything they I mean, there was literally nothing
at stake there.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
They won Dick and all, they won a fancy trophy.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And then on top of that, they were super hype
after the race to a give NASCAR's stupid caution credit
for being exciting, and that wasn't the reason why it
was exciting. And then they were like, every driver, would
you like to have a points race here? Would you
like to have a points race here? We should have
a points race here. There should be a points race here,
like they were like, and it wasn't coming from the drivers,

(10:08):
even though they wanted you to think that it was
all coming from the booth. It was all coming from
the booth and from Fox that we need to make
a big deal about this needs to be a points race.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
The quote of the weekend after the place was sold
out with reserve seats and hospitality suites.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Which a place He's like.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
What fifteen twenty, it's like seventeen to three, something like that.
Marcus Smith, the president and CEO of Speedway Motorsports, who
in his Twitter hopes we're having a good day. I
hope we're having a great day. He said, like lambeau
Field to football and Fenway Park to baseball. North Wolkesboro

(10:49):
Speedway has become America's throwback. Oh yeah, I don't know
the hyperbole. This was something like that.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, that's uh, that's uh. I think he's going a
little too far there. Literally one of his other tracks
that Darlington has a throwback race, like they call it
a throwback grace.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Don't they own Bowman Gray too?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I don't know if they own it, but I think
they they. I think they were. They're the people who
were promoting that race, I think, But don't quote me
on that.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah. Yeah, so I mean I am. I am of
two minds about this. The points race idea. We could
have good races. It would be thrilling races. People might
like it. My other idea is that it's not good.

(11:44):
You lose the nostalgia early and then people get sick
of it. Yeah. Sometimes in a situation like this, race
tracks need to go away for a minute and then
come back to fanfare. How can I miss you if
you don't leave at the situation. Yeah, I don't think
that's what it needs to be done for places like
north Brooks, Bar, like Bowman Gray. Hell, maybe even maybe

(12:08):
even you leave Richmond for a bit. Maybe. Again, this
goes with the whole scatter the things around. NASCAR is
working on scattering the All Star Game and scattering that
last race of the year. Maybe you know. The sad
part is they won't because they're tied to contracts and
they own a good amount of the race tracks already
and they don't care about growing it because they got

(12:29):
their money from TV. But you can't have a points
race here and then have the excitement. We saw what
happened in Darlington when they got back the five hundred
there the Southern five hundred for like two years, it
was hyped up and then dead, and then all the
hype went to the Spring race for someone ungodly reason.

(12:50):
So I don't think this needs to be a point race.
Would it be fun every once in a while, sure,
why not? I don't you know, maybe it replaces the
Mexico City Race next year, but I don't think it
needs to be an every year points race track.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah. Yeah. And and just to clarify, because I did
look for Bowman Gray Real Quick owned by the city
of Winston Salem, and that particular race was promoted by NASCAR,
not SMI. But but the point still stands. And and
this like the hype that they're trying to generate around
North Wilkesborough now it feels very similar to what we

(13:29):
saw with the Bristol Dirt Race. And what did that do?
That burned out? Like everybody was like, Oh, this is
gonna be like a legendary forever, and it burned out.
The clash at the coliseum, Everyone's like, Oh, this is
gonna be the best thing ever. We're gonna do this
for it. This is gonna be our presidence of southern California.
It burned out, the Chicago street course is about to
burn out, and I mean Road America didn't burn out

(13:52):
and ask her to just shit candidate for no reason,
but but that this is their m o. Like their
mo o is people have fun one time, and so
this has to now be the marquee event of the
season type of thing.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
We're gonna saturate the market. Yeah, and we're going out,
We're gonna make make you sick of it, and then
we're gonna forget it ever happens and bring back the
old stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And that's exactly They're like, We're gonna beat you over
the head until you can't stand this place anymore, and
then we're gonna go away for twenty years because you're sick,
so sick of it, And and they you're so right
when you point out how NASCAR is like, oh, we
need to start rotating this final race of the season
to keep the interest level up. But then at the
same time they'll be like, oh man, we need to

(14:33):
go all in on Northwolkesboro and have this be a
points race. And it's probably gonna be the championship race,
and we're going to start the year there too, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
M yeah, it's just like you guys, we're gonna do
the same thing over and again.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's like one head doesn't doesn't understand what the other
one is doing.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So interesting note after the race though,
is that, according to Autoweek, that many NASCAR drivers believe
in FLA, you should be taken into consideration for the
first place prize as it's been a million dollars since
two thousand and three.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That's not a bad point.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
The number, the number that Autoweek said is floating around
there and gets most mentioned. It's three million dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I mean you could go to like the CPI inflation
calculator and figure it out, and I'm assuming you'll probably
be above two two and a half million, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean with all the costs and
everything like that, why not. I mean you're traveling now.
I mean it's not as Charlotte A race no more so.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
And again All Star race stupid dumb concept because you
see the same e fin drivers every week.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, and you know, I didn't listen to Denni Hamlin's
podcast this week. I just heard like one or two clips,
and one of the clips was saying essentially that he's like, dude,
what's the point, like why? In fact, I think he
was being asked if looks Northwolks First should be a
points race, and he was like, I mean, what difference

(16:02):
does it make? Like who cares? And then he started
talking about the fact that they're running the All Star
Race there and he was like, the racing is fine,
you know, the track is fine, whatever, I don't even
think we need an All Star Race. Like what his
main concern was it would replace the All Star Race
with yet another points race, and he's like, I don't

(16:23):
see the why we would ever do that, Like what's
the point of that. But he also said he didn't
really see the point of the All Star Race because
half the freaking field is in the All Star Race,
and if it's not exclusive, then nobody's gonna care about it.
It's just gonna be like every other weekend. And actually,
and that was where he ended up with the discussion
of a points race. He's like, if they make the

(16:43):
All Star Race exclusive again, then the fact that they're
holding it at North Wilkesboro. Now you have the historic
factor of North Wilkesboro with this Marquis event, that is
that's so hard to get in, it's so hard to
be part of this. Now you've got something. If you
make it a points race, it's just literally another track
in the middle of the year.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, it's just just another thing
to get one conversion to another.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Like like who cares if they're racing there, or they're
racing at Iowa, they're racing at Darlington, or they're racing
at Kansas. Just another middle of the year race at
that point.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, it's gonna get lost in the fold as it
always does. So just why why ruin the special specialty
in it or whatever the specialty may be. Right now
that we've run it out the past couple of years,
and we'll run it into the ground.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, And I think the translate kind of what Denny
was thinking, if I'm if I was understanding him right,
is like, hey, North Wilkesboro has like the special quality
to it. If you want to accentuate that, if you
want to highlight that, then put a special event there.
But make it actually special. Don't just make it another race.
Branded as an All Star Race. Make it something that

(17:48):
you only see the best few drivers in that everybody
wants to win so they can get in, or everybody
wants to get a poll so they can get them
whatever the whatever the measure is to get in instead
of you know, while it's winners and playoff drivers and
then winners of previous years, and you know, like the

(18:10):
guys racing their way in in the open and getting
voted in, and then next thing, you know, out of
a thirty six car field, you've got twenty three of
them in the freaking All Star Race.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You've trimmed the fat basically what a race actually should
be in terms of not only length, but size of
the field.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, and we talked about this when they announced the
rules for the All Star Race. Where like the percentage
of drivers in the full time drivers in the series
or in the All Star Race, if you translated that
to the NHL or the NBA or or an NFL
or a major league baseball, you would have hundreds and
hundreds of players in the All Star Game, you know,
and nobody, nobody would watch that because there's nothing to it.

(18:46):
Then there's nothing special about it.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, exactly it's it's kind of kind of just loses
its luster. It's just dumb and they're just to fill
avoid Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I mean if they just did winners, I mean think
about how many seasons. I mean, we'd never get to
sixteen and so what you would have somewhere between twelve
and fifteen drivers in the field. That's still like a
third of the field, right, more than a third of
the field. But at least you have to win to
get in, Like you have to do something that's hard

(19:19):
to do to be able to be in the All
Star Race.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those things where it's just
you have make it special and it's not special, and
it's never gonna be sair.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And if you want to have regular races surrounding it,
do what they did this weekend. Have a truck race too.
You know, some people want to see a full field,
they want to see full racing. They get that, but
then when it comes to that marquee event, it's like
just the drivers who are the best in the sport.
I remember back in the day when it was just winners,
that there were times where your favorite driver wasn't in

(19:51):
there because they didn't win. A race the year before,
even though in this day and age it would plenty
be good enough to make the playoffs. But the making
the playoffs shouldn't be a determinant of whether you're in
the All Star Race or not. I mean, you should
have to prove that you are better than everybody else
on any given day, and to do that, you got
to win a race. And so, yeah, sometimes you're upset

(20:11):
because your guys in inn and yeah there could be
a chance to Chase Elliott's not in, or that this
year Kyle Busch wouldn't have been in. But that's that's
the chance you take, you know, that's why you got
to go out there and perform.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, I mean, but the thing is is we're getting
so many different like the winners are so all the time,
and it doesn't like it doesn't make sense to just
have like there's no again just in general, like even
by a format of just winners, the fields aren't strong enough,
like in general that you know, if you have nine

(20:45):
guys out there and then it's like ten guys, Like
who wants to go out and see ten drivers?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I mean right and around if they're you know, if
it was hard for them to get in then then
I think it makes it better. And and you know,
Denny didn't say this, but I'll on top of that,
there are twenty three drivers or whatever in this in
this All Star race on any given day, there are
only twenty three drivers max that have a real chance
to win. In fact, that would argue.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's probably about.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Fifteen that have a real chance to win.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah. Yeah, if that, I mean, I would even cut
that even longer than.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Probably so final way to get just those guys in there.
Now that being said, I'm happy that they did have
an open race with drivers to transfer through because I
got a point for Carsonosovar.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
No you didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh wait, oh what I thought. I said he was
gonna win his they was gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Win one of the seconds. You got, you got him
his most popular Oh boo, I got I got a
I got Greg's.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Oo boo boo boo. Yeah, you got Gregson as the
vote winner.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Greece was looking good, though, Priese was looking good. And
then that issue on Pitt Road. Yeah or no he no,
that's right, he ran over the select the select go
oh oh that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Okay. So that was the other clip I heard was
Danny talking about that, and that was the thing. He
said that because of the angle of the track, it
was impossible to see where that where that choose comb was,
and that that pre screwed it up. And he said
that he like everybody else, learned from that and they

(22:15):
were like, you better, like do it early and make
sure that you swing wide. And he said that in
between the open and the All Star race that they
either went and repainted it or put down more tape
or something. And so he said, at that point it
was a bit easier to see, like you could see
it from the car a little ways off, but in
the open race you couldn't see it at all. And

(22:37):
he was like, I wasn't going to tell anybody, you know,
he said, I had my strategy of how I was
going to do the choos come, but I wasn't going
to talk to anybody about it because I don't want
to give anybody else an advantage. If they want to
screw themselves up, I'll let him screw themselves up right.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Exactly in those open races, you got.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
To sou For all the hype and afterwards, all the
talk of a points race, nobody was watching this one.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
No no, shure.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
They have one point nine six five million on FS one,
So there was no celebratory tweet to end the NASCAR
season for Fox. Last year, this race two point five
seven three million. That's six hundred and eight thousand more
people last year than this year. Now, obviously, the ratings

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don't reflect if the race was more interesting and it
was more interesting this year than it was last year.
The ratings this year reflect how the race was last year.
Last year it sucked and people knew that and they
weren't enthused to come back and watch it.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Was it an FS one last year too?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
But here's also, you don't put an All Star race
at eight o'clock on a Sunday, that's the non holiday
week exactly. So dumb. Like again, the planning of this
was so dumb.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, I mean I get what they wanted. They wanted
the lights, they wanted the flashiness.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
But yeah, yeah, but here we are now with all
that was a good race?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I think it was. I think it was, uh you know,
I mean, based on the races that we've seen leading
up to this one, Yeah, I would think it was.
In fact, if Gluck did a poll, which I'm assuming
he did. I would think that we're probably up in
the sixties, like the mid sixties on this one.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Give me, give me a guest, like sixty.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Five sixty six percent eighty three point eight wow?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Okay said yes, yeah, number three of ten All Star
races that have been pulled since twenty nineteen or sorry,
and the best since twenty nineteen. Yeah, only third to
be over fifty two percent. Wow. Number five on short
track race in the next gen era h and the

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other North Folks Barrow race last year got forty nine
or sorry, wait, Jeff, what are you doing? The Alstar
races from twenty twenty four? I got forty nine point
eight percent and then apparently the one from last year,
which was also twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That was probably the Northwolkesborough one last year because it
was it was not good.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know. Yeah? But what was this other twenty Did
they have it in twenty twenty three too?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, but not in Northwolke's Borough. Yeah, I can't remember
where that one was, but it was not Northwalksborough, I
was wasn't it? Was it Rocking Rockingham? Was it Rockingham?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I don't know, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I can't remember where it was, but but yeah, last
year's was bad, and I think that affected the numbers
for this year. You know, I think that in comparison
to this race last year, and in comparison to the
races leading up to this one in the twenty twenty
five season, I can't understand why the number was that high.
I mean, I would have voted it was a good race.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah yeah, I mean also aside from that bro crossing
at the.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
End, yeah, oh exactly. And that's the thing. If they
are they just wouldn't have thrown it. It still would
have been just as good of a race. It would
not have changed the excitement level at the end of
that race. In fact, there would have been way more
tension and way more drown because they could have built
it up that Bell was going to catch him. Bell
was going to catch him, even if he wasn't going
to catch him.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
M yeah, yep. And then there we go.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, all right, let's move on to the NASCAR news
because the other big story of the weekend actually just
coming out of the weekend, the NASCAR Hall of Fame
class for twenty twenty five was announced, and here we go.
I don't know where we start here, we had Ray Hendrick,

(26:28):
I'll go I'll go the opposite way here. Actually, we'll
start with the Landmark Award Humpy Wheeler. Jesus yeah, Humpey Wheeler.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
What would you say if it's not that in depth
they voted for guys.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, Humpy Wheeler wins a Landmark Award. Longtime promoter for Charlotte.
I cannot argue with Humpy Wheeler winning any kind of
award from the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I mean, come on, it took this long.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, exactly exactly. Ray Hendrick, who won over seven hundred
modified and late model races over a thirty eight year career.
He only actually won a couple of regional or local championships,
but his body of work, I mean the number of
races that sheer, a number of races that he won.
You know, this one's a little tough for me because

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it's not somebody who the vast majority of fans would know.
But sometimes when you're talking about a Hall of Fame,
it's recognizing the people that were great that may have
been unheralded, and I think this falls in that category.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
It also goes to show how much NASCAR really doesn't
give a good goddamn about it, Harriage that if you're
not Eddie or An Allison or an Aaron Hurt.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, like, whould why did we not know about this
guy really until the exactly?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah? For sure.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Then we got Harry Gant, handsome Harry Gant. Eighteen Cup wins,
twenty one X wins, no championships, all right, So I'm
not gonna argue with it. I'm just gonna say I.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Think you're gonna argue with it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, no, no, I'm just gonna say that when we're
at this point where a driver who has eighteen wins
in the Cups series and then what thirty wins total
makes the Hall of Fame, that we're starting to get
a little bit thin in terms of the talent level
in the classes here. You think, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I could have told you that when this idea came
about year seven. Oh, we're scraping the barrel because no
one retires on time.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to take anything
away from Harry Again's career, but when you look at
those numbers, are you thinking, whoa dude, that is a
guy who's going to be in the Hall of Fame? No,
you're not, but.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You're getting a recognizable name.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
You're getting a recognizable name.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
You are folk.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
And I can't remember how many races he ran.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
It was a lot here the old bandit clients at school.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Bandy car was legendary man for sure. Let's see here.
He was the nineteen eighty five IRAQ Champion, IRAQ Championship,
four hundred and seventy four races over twenty two years,
eighteen wins, two hundred and eight top tens, one hundred
and twenty eight further Exfinity races and eleven truck races.

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I'd have to do percentages on top tens, but like
I mean, his top ten or it was over fifty
percent in the Exfinity series. It was at just a
shade under fifty percent in the Cup series. And those
aren't bad. Those are really good numbers. That means that
every other week you're seeing Harry Gampt finishing in the
top ten. Right, But is the hall of fame for

(29:31):
the tenth best driver in a year? You know? Is
the hall of fame for a top ten driver across
this vast expanse of NASCAR records? Or is it for
you know, your top couple of drivers in any given year.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I mean, obviously it's it's a mediocrity. Yeah, I guess
it can be and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
And like I said, I'm not gonna argue with NASCAR
on this or the voting voting body on this because Gamp.
I mean, he was there, he was in there. He
finished top five in the championship, won two, three, four, five,
six times, six times. He finished fourth, second to fourth
in the championship. So that that's really good. But is
it like the best of all time?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Good? Oh god? No?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, And so I think it just proves that we're
getting a little thin at this point in terms of candidates.
And then we got Kurt Busch, right, And Kurt Busch
is a very interesting case. Thirty four Cup wins. Of course,
he won the two thousand and four Cup Series championship.
He won a Daytona five hundred in twenty seventeen. That
says two seven on our notes, but it's twenty seventeen

(30:41):
that he won that. This one. You know, it's interesting.
I think this was his first time in the ballot
and he wins first time. Now, when when Kurt Busch
was running and when Kirk Bush retired, I wasn't thinking
first first ballot Hall of Famer, right, because you think
in terms of other sports, and you got to be

(31:02):
like one of the best ever to get first ballot
Hall of Famer. But do you look at those stats,
you think hall of Famer. I mean, the guy won
a Cup championship. So yeah, I think that he deserves
to be there, especially considering the story he went through
and then his ability to come back and be a
playoff driver after he had his problems he redeemed himself,

(31:24):
and then the unfortunate way that he ended his career.
I mean, I think that there is a lot to
be said about Kurt Busch getting there. I don't think
there's a problem. I don't have a problem with that
at all. And the one thing about Kurt Busch that
probably most people wouldn't ever get a chance to recognize
because he was a very very smart racer, like he

(31:45):
really understood the sport and I think that's what got
him through seven hundred and seventy races in the Cup Series.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, and I think it's one of those things too
where I mean you can't you can't marginal or can't
put this against other sports because other sports you have
at least twenty new guys that ye're going onto.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
The ballots where Yeah, you're right about that.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
NASCAR doesn't have that. Yeah, No, I think it's definitely
a Hall of Fame worthy. I mean considering what he
did over the over the course and over the different
eras in NASCAR and how he kind of suited over.
I mean, wasn't a media darling Ogano, but you know,
he was a guy who did you know, did the
job and got what he needed to do and did

(32:29):
what he needed to do. He was the first one
of the was he he was the first champ of
the Chase era?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, of the playoff area up, yep.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
So I mean there's that too. But the interesting part
is the percentages. As Jeff Cluck put out there, both
Kurt Busch and Harry Gant got sixty one percent of
the vote, which was enough to get them into the
Hall of Fame. Interesting, Ray Hendrick got thirty one percent
of the vote.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Wow, and that got him. And see you're you know,
I think you can make a better argument for Hendrick
then for Harry Gant, even though Hendrick didn't get nearly
as much of the vote. But still if you have
somebody who's thirty one percent of the vote and they're
getting in, like, think about that guy's come on.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, maybe it's not maybe it's not something we need.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah yeah, but oh well. Oddly enough, Harry Gant had
more finishes in the top five in the points at
the end of the year than Kurt Busch did, but
Bush was third. He was third in the points in
the Points Sierra in two thousand and two. That's pretty good.
And then of course he won the first ever playoff thing,

(33:38):
and then he was fourth in two thousand and nine.
That was after he swapped over to Penske and then
he had his problems or you know, got the boot,
had to go back to Phoenix Racing and then like
the best he ever did after he okay, so after

(33:59):
the Phoenix Racing year, he goes to Furniture Row and
it appears here that he made the playoffs every single
year after he went that one season in Fnture Row,
and then all the years at Stuart Haas, all the
years AGAINASTI until he got hurt and he would have
been in the playoffs that year. Remember he had won
and they thought he was going to get the medical waiver,

(34:20):
and he gave up the medical waiver in that last
slot so somebody else could go in. So that is
impressive that he could come back from basically getting a
boot down to the D team and then make the
playoffs every year. So it consistent, very consistent. Very Matt Kenseathy,
M yeah, very much.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
So good for them. I guess I don't know. I
never never understood the Hall of Fame for NASCAR, I
mean whatever, And he should deserve and seven guys in
the first bout in the first time, and that's this
is what happens.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I know exactly, but he should also Kurpo should
also get credit for really setting the table at a
furniture or furniture row rather for on oh say again,
good pun, Oh yeah, set your table furnaturee uh. For
Martin Trex Junior to be able to come along and

(35:11):
win races and winning championship in that car, I mean,
Bush was really what got them on the right track
to be able to hand that car to Martin Trex Junior.
Another reclamation project, and then that one turned out to
be a winner. And so I think even though he
didn't get any credit at all at the time, for that,
I think that he shares a little tiny bit of
that championship with Martin Trex Junior.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, not much, but just a little peace. Yeah. So
there's that the big story coming into this weekend. And
Scotty and I were just talking about this before we
started the show. I mean, this is Coke six hundred weekend. Man,
It's Memorial Day weekend. Is the longest night in NASCAR,
for better for worse. And you've got the big doubleheader,
and and you know, Kyle Larson is running the Indy

(35:54):
five hundred, and he's gonna run the Coke six hundred
as well, as long as the weather cooperates. And instead
of every talking about the hype machine of this, you know,
Marquee NASCAR race or what I was thought was gonna happen,
the hype machine of the whole Kyle Larson thing. Instead,
everybody's focused on Penske, on Penske racing and this this

(36:16):
IndyCar controversy that they found themselves in.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, they'll give me a little high speed lowdown on
what the hell is going on with this because I
think Austin Stindrick's gonna be out of a ride soon.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Oh yeah, okay, so that's the thing, right. So Penske,
Penske Enterprises or whatever they call it, Team Penske. Roger
Penske owns Indy Car, Roger Penske owns Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
and Roger Penske owns Penske Racing. Penske Racing very very
successful in Indy Car, especially in the Indy five hundred

(36:49):
and uh. They had done all of their like qualifying
build up thing where you like, they slimmed the field down,
slimmed the field down. They got to the last I
think it was twelve cars or whatever. Those guys are
gonna run to see who gets the poll, and two
Penske cars, the cars of Joseph Newgarden who won the
Indye five hundred last year, and Will Power, friend of

(37:13):
the show. Will Power, he's been on the show before
a long time, I mean, the legendary Indy Car driver.
They rolled their cars out there and all of a sudden,
Chip Ganassi if Ganassi Racing starts like yelling at the
at the stewards. You got to look at their cars.
Their cars are illegal. Their cars are illegal. And here's
a long story short. So there's a little bumper on
the back of the car that holds the spoiler and

(37:34):
it's meant literally to be a bumper to like kind
of distribute the weight if you get hit in the
back or you hit a wall in the back. That's
made of metaling carbon fiber, I guess or mostly carbon fiber.
And there was an extra piece that was put like
a couple of years ago by the manufacturer around this
little like rear bumper section to help reinforce it, make

(37:55):
it stronger. Right, that piece was just glued on. It
was just tacked on, So there's a little ridge that
the air theoretically could go over and it would create
some turbulence. Well, what Penske had been doing is adding
some goop in there and smoothing it over to make
that bumper section smoother all the way. And that's what
they got caught doing in Indy five hundred qualifying and

(38:19):
they kicked both cars out of the qualifying session. There
was a third Penske car that did not have that problem.
That third Penske car did not have that modification to it,
and it clearly states in the rule book you can't
do that, And it was a part that was supplied
by the chassis manufacturer. You can't touch it, you can't
modify it, you can't do anything to it. They did.
But the real issue here isn't just that they had

(38:42):
an illegal modification of their car. It was that that
illegal modification of the car had been going on for
at least a year. They literally walked over to the
IndyCar Museum and looked at Joseph Newgarten's car from last
year that had won the Indy five hundred, same illegal modification.

(39:02):
And so they've been going to race after race after
race after race, these cars going through tech, through tech,
through tech, and they never got caught by the stewards
that are employed by Roger Penske because he owns the sport.
And so that created a terrible terrible look for Penske,

(39:22):
for the team, and for the sport as a whole.
On top of that, last year, apparently, and I didn't
know about this, last year, Penske had gotten caught cheating,
like blatantly cheating in another scandal where they reprogrammed the
software in the car to give Joseph Nugarten more opportunities
to hit the extra power button, not the willpower button,

(39:43):
but the extra power button you get a certain number
of like boosts that you can hit in the race,
and they reprogrammed his car so he'd get more than
everybody else. Tim Sindric, who is Austin Sindric's dad, who
runs that organization for Pensket, he had gotten suspended did
for a while for that infraction, and then of course

(40:04):
he's still at the head of the team for this
one where they've been proven to be using illegal parts
for over a year, and so Roger Penske fired him,
and so that's where we sit, and everybody's talking about
that because it's such a huge scandal. But it makes
you wonder, with his kid racing for Roger Penske in
the Cup series, is that going to affect Austin Centric's

(40:24):
future because his dad got caught cheating in a major, major,
major way twice in two years.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I mean could I mean, obviously anything's out there, especially
with how in high regard he was in that in
that organization and Austin Sindric not necessarily having the best
of track records, But I mean, I think it's the
lucky thing for Austin Sindric.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
There's no one else out there I know who would
they put in the car out there.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Not a lot out not even in their own system. Yeah,
there's not a lot out there. But I think it
was Hinchcleff James Hinchcliff. Is that is he, that's the
the IndyCar guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been on
the show too, haven't he he has?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah? Yeah, the Hinch has been on the show for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
All right. For a friend of the show, Jaid, James
Hinchcliff mentioned that he's like, yeah, you know, Adam Silver
doesn't own a basketball team, and Roger Goodell doesn't own
a football team. Why the hell is the owner of
this the commission of this sport owning team?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah? That that is really the great usual part. It
really is. Like if he owned the NASCAR team and
then owned IndyCar, that's fine, right, But to own the
sport and to own the team in the sport Hinch
has has a good point there. The mayor of Hinchtown,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Oh really, I didn't know that was a dumb in
the municipality. Yeah, yeah, I think it's imaginary, like then,
not like flavortown. Flavor toown is real, It totally is.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, but what do you do Okay, So let's say
you are Roger Penskey, you're really pissed off at Tim Sindrick,
and then you're looking at your own NASCAR team. Have
Austin Cindric there. He didn't do anything, and Cindric has
won a couple of races. In fact, he already won
this year, and he's going to be in the playoffs.

(42:09):
I mean, you can't get rid of him if he's
gonna get in the play if he's gonna be well,
you don't.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Get rid of him. Now.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, maybe at the end of the year, maybe when
his contract is up something like that, they go a
different direction.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
It's too obvious now, it's yeah, it makes sense his
contract is up after this year. So oh is it
interesting except for what it's worth interesting? Yeah, but yeah,
I mean it's a situation where now we got to
figure out what's going to happen and if it does
have anything to do with it, because maybe they just
made this because they had to make these moves.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah. And the thing is, the Cindric thing could have
been a case of nepotism to put him in the
car in the first place, because obviously his dad was
so involved in the team but it isn't like Austin
hasn't performed. I mean, he was good in the Exfinity
Series and won a championship in the Xfinity Series. You know,
he's in full time in the Cup Series. He's been

(42:59):
in the playoffs out he will have been in the
playofs three out of his first four years. I mean,
it's not like he's a bad driver, you.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Know, no, no, no, but you know, it could be one
of those things like, now your dad's not here to
protect you. Yeah, you're actually shite, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yea. Now, Now, if this was Cody Ware and Rick
Ware had been running the Indy Car organization, well then
I mean, Cody, Cody wouldn't even be a Charlotte this weekend, Yeah,
because that clearly would have been more putting you in
the car just because you're dad. Yeah, And I think
that's the good thing for Austin is at this point,
I think he's already established his own identity and it's

(43:36):
clear that he's not in the car because of his dad,
So that probably will make things okay for him. But
I guess we'll see.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
His dad and his dad there definitely helped him get
in the car.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
List. Well, yeah, probably did, but he but in the
meantime he has learned to stand on his own. I
mean he's got the results, not great, not great results,
but better than a lot of drivers.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
He's got the results. He put in racistly, he did racings.
He did racings.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
So I don't think. I don't think it's gonna I
think at the end of his contract. I mean, who knows.
But I don't think there's gonna be any real friction
at this point. I don't think. But we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
We'll see how we'll see time time heals all ms
and all that.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Exactly. People have forgotten next week that this happened.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, exactly, all right.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I only have sponsored news left. I don't know if
you have anything else.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
That The only thing about the prime video saying that
they're only going to go to they're gonna go double
box format whenever there's green flag racing, so that people
don't miss an event. So there's that.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Oh okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, so the double box during green flag, then you
won't miss a lap.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, that's good. I'd like that. I'll go with that.
This is interesting, and the sponsor news Fanatics has a
sports book. I did not know about this.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Everyone's gonna sport. I got a sportsman, I guess.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
So, yeah, they're gonna be on the number forty four
car at Nashville. And so they've picked those two races
something called a Pinnacle Financial. Pinnacle Financial. I guess they're
up at the top. They'll be in the number forty
five Tyler Reddit car at Nashville. Again for them in Bristol,
that's gonna be a multi year deal. They give us
no further details on the multi year part of it,

(45:16):
like how many future races and what future races they're
going to sponsor, but it'll be something. And then just
announced today zero prostate cancer is going to be on
the number sixty six Josh Blicky car at Charlotte this weekend.
I guess Josh Blicky is running for garage sixty six
this weekend. I don't know who those people are, but
I'll stand behind that. We don't want we don't want

(45:38):
any prostate cancer. So zero prostate cancer is a good goal.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
No, I don't know, shout out Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh that's right, yeah, wow, what about that timing?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, okay, it's good, good good promotion there. Hey, also
sponsorship for the Cars Series, Cars Ours Series Budweiser on
the number eight Dale Junior car. Oh that's right, Yeah,
he's gonna run that race, major league sponsorship.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
They're gonna make it look like the Daytona car man.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yep, back in was that?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh was that one? Yeah, two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, it's iconic car.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, yeah, with the white with the stitching on it. Yeah,
it's a good car.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yep. So that will be on the car's tour. Uh.
And the Lionel Lionel Racing, who is now taking pre
orders again because the tariffs are away, so they're doing
that and you can you'll get it like in three
years after.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
The exactly because they want to make sure that the
terrors don't come back in between the time you order
and the time they ship. So they're like, well, just
wait three and a half years is basically what we're
gonna do before we start sending these out.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
And Dale Junior also putting out all the all the
merch out there. The jackets, Yeah, uniform jackets gonna be
out there for one hundred and fifty two dollars. Oh my,
get your sublimated cruise shirt for forty two bucks.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Uh, the autographed Dale Junior number eight one hundred and fifty. No,
that's a die cast one hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
And then all kinds of other budweis are shwagged that
they got going on.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Because because Junior needs more money.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Hey man, listen, man, the man knows how.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
To murk, I'm telling you, does he ever?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I cannot. I am envious of it, but I can't
eat on it. Get yourself your money. Dude, You're doing
everything I wish I could do, minus that racing part.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I definitely can't blame him for trying to
make that Dalo dollar.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
No, I could sit at home and just podcast all day,
do it.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
No, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I have a weird forest of dead cars.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah yeah yeah. Or you could do with the Denny
Hamlin way. You just have like a weird what looks
like like a leftover booth from like the nineteen eighties Hooters,
and then you just sit around that instead.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Hey man, I can probably get that one who liquidates
everything exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
We're gonna we're gonna redo the podcast studio. We're just
gonna have like a restaurant booth from Hooters that we're
gonna sit in. Denny Hamlin's stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Haul Cogan's trying to buy the ip of Hooters, and Christ.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Who knows what that would looks like?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Good Lord almighty, just a bunch of racism.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Basically, it's like, I'm gonna do it right this time, brother,
gonna do it the way I always envisioned it.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Brother, I'm gonna take it back to the fifties. But no,
for those fifties, closer to the forties, brother exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Oh man, at least his fifties. He means eighteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, good lord, meal everybody.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Oh boy. So then that brings us to the Coke
six hundred this weekend. I think they're doing twelve or
thirteen stages in this race.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I think they're doing six hundred stage.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, they're doing six hundred stages. They're gonna throw a
caution after every lap.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
They're gonna have to load up on those firework cannons.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
For yeah, exactly, they're doing ten promoters cautions. Mikey wall
trip will determine five of them. The other five will
be determined by like a trained seal or something like that.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
But whoever whoever picks up the flag after Mikey drops it.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
They except that's exactly oh man, So uh, how many
cars do we have?

Speaker 4 (49:25):
This?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Forty for forty?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Everyone's in, ah, including the aforementioned sixty six car of
who is it?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Josh Blicky I believe Blicky, jj yala on the cars
this week, and Connors Zilich.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Oh, Connor Zilch, that's right. Conres Zilich is.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
In Actually sorry not JJLA, Derek Krause in four h
and also Jimmith johnsonth oh.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Very nice, okay, right, I don't know. I don't know
what what what that last thing was that you said?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
What was that with Carvana?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
No? Before him? The the Dale somebody?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Derek Krause, Oh, Derek Krause.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I don't know who he is.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
He's a driver, Oh okay. Maybe he's driven before. Oh okay,
and he had he will drive again, he probably will.
He's twenty three years old out of wiscats and okay,
all right. Who's he's driven for? He's driven for, He's
driven a lot of He's driven for Calliague last year,
oh okay, all right, six races for Calleague. Oh m

(50:28):
y Racing it's gonna be all up on the ny
Racing car everybody. Yep, So this is the only time
you'll hear him mention.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
A lot of fun schemes this week, baby.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
There are There are a lot of paint schemes this week.
The only good thing on NASCAR dot com, which has
subsequently ruined and then they made it r for a
while and then was in the middle. Now it's not better.
Eighty one eighty one paint schemes in the paint scheme
preview to choose from. Of those? Are there three that
you like?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
There's more than three.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
A lot of patriotic schemes for the Memorial Day weekend,
which is great.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, yeah, um let me let me go. Uh boy, God,
where was that? Oh it was in the Was this
the truck car or was this the I'm talking to myself, folks,
don't worry, it's a rhetorical question. Don't answer please, for
the love of God, there it is the seven.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
You mean that BJ McCloud pigeon forge gimmick.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's got like a roller coaster on it.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, it's for the for their what is it? The
roller roller coaster? What your jigger roll the Pigeon Forge
roller coaster.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I guess I don't know what that is, but it
looks pretty cool on the truck.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah. Uh so there's that shout out b J McCloud,
way to go, bud where else we got one from
the AX. There's one for the X. I really like,
but I don't like it enough to pick it.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
It wasn't it. It wasn't the shot monkey with the
helper monkey on it.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
No, unfortunately, not not the the shop monkey helper Monkey.
I'm actually gonna go with the Uh. I just I
had it and then I lost Give me the give
me the number twenty seven, Nope. Timber Creek dive bomb
dive bomb because it's a duck with duck that's shaped
like a bomb.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Oh, it is a duck down. At first I thought
was a duck that was showing you its ass, but
it's actually you're right, it's a bomb with duck feet.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, so it's a dive bomb in the X series.
Shout out Cup series.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
There's a lot of good ones in the Cup series.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Good ones. Yeah, there are definitely some good ones.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Someone that I would love to pick just for the memes.
But I won't do that. I'm gonna I'm a I'm
a pick. I'm a pick because it looks just so
goofy and silly. The number forty seven Fun Pops you.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Got you gotta go with the fun popspan. That Fun
Pops car is epic. While that's one of the times
where we see the illustration, I'm like, I really want
to see that car in person, Like I want to
like that looks like Unfortunately, unfortunately, he said out Junior
probably won't see it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Too much on track well to Amazon, who knows, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, maybe maybe he'll get lapped by somebody that we'll
get to see it.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
What do you what do you got? There's a plenty
of field though.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Okay, so for my patriotic scheme, and there are a
lot of good patriotic schemes this time around, But for
my for my patriotic scheme, for my Memorial Day weekend scheme,
I'm gonna go very basic on this one. I'm gonna
go with where is it in the X series? The
number seven Hellman's Car of Justin Algeyer because it's like

(53:37):
very seventies and it looks it reminds me a little
bit of Evil can Eevil. Plus it's got mayonnaise all
over the side of the car.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
So and you didn't you didn't do the actual Evil
Canievil car.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Is there an evil Evil car?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I think there is? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, where?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Uh well write down this? Where's the Evil can car?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
By the way, there is a car with Lance crackers
on the side, which I believe you pointed out last week?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, last week when we mentioned it, where's the Evil canevels?
The truck?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Think? Was Evil can Eevil truck? Was there?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
What?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Where the hell is it? I saw it because it
had Evil Canevel's goddamn logo on it. Is it the Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I can't find it?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I am I'm looking drunk.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Or let me have three of this.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Fifty one the fifty one Jacob Construction Oh fifty one
in an X known regular cup?

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh and cup? Hang on, let me see, let me see.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
It's the aforementioned Cody Where in the Evil Canevl Jacob's
costruction car?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, that the X I
mean Algier's car does Evil Canevl way better than the
Evil Canevil car does Evil Canevel.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
It's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
It is kind of.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Weird definite right anyway, So yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Let's go with that one, and then let's move on
to the Cup Series. I got one. I gotta pick
what I got to. I got two here before I
picked my two Cup Series once. I do have to
give at least a little bit of a shout out
to the Sheldon Creed Pit Boss car because it's got
meats all over the.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Same sign yet one honorable men.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Like cooking up meats all over the side of the thing.
I'm gonna go Zelich in the eighty seven. I mean,
the red Bull thing is. I may have picked them
already once this year, So Zilich in the eighty seven.
The red Bull scheme man that fun Bob's car is
so good. And then I'm gonna go have I done?

(55:34):
Have I done Tumblewamba yet already?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
The Chumble Casina?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
No, yeah, okay, definitely Chumble Casino.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Then that was that was an honorable mention for me.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, it's got everything it's got. It's basically got tumble
Womba in the side, it's got wild colors that don't
really go together on the side. It's great.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah. My other honorable mention was in the X series,
the number fifty one Jeremy Clement, another banger from Jeremy
Clements from the Hub City Spartan Day.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
That one has so much going on. I don't even
know what that arrow is for, but it's there. And
then is that a lemon?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That's part of that is part of the the Spartan
Burger's logo?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Oh gotcha? And is that a Spartan Burger playing baseball there?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
That is? I think it's a lemon.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It looks like a lemon with its baseball cap on
backwards catching a baseball.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, it's one of the it's one of their They
have three logos. One's a a burger with a hat
and a bat, one's a lemon with a glove, and
one is a cleaver with a bat.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Oh my gosh, you've got to have a burger with
a bat and a hat on.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah. It's a new team, a new single, a team
for the Rangers. Really at a Spartanburg, South Carolina. They
play they actually play the Aberdeen Iron Burns up here
a couple of times. Oh really, yeah, so I think
they open their season and the IronBirds did against the
Spartan Burgers a spark.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Oh look Oh my gosh, I'm really hoping that the
Spartanburger's main mascot is on the hood, the Hamburger with
the little engineer's hat and then the baseball. So yeah,
we we can. We can only hope that because that
is the way that the car should look.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yes, absolutely for sure. It's silly a right. So, uh,
last time they play your favorite ballpark?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
What? What's this one? Spartanburger Park?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
They play in fifth third?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Oh no boo.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
They play in one in two third stadium, one in
two third stadium. And they beat the IronBirds in their
inaugural game back in April.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Did they really?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
No way?

Speaker 1 (57:30):
IronBirds just let him win. They won't. I won't start
with a loss, so they let them win.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, the IronBirds are movement. Oh really, it is not
a good scene up here in Aberdeen. Oh no, it
is not a scene. Maybe. Well Rippkins sold the team so.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Oh he did? Or I didn't know that he sold
the team? Weird?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Now who did he.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Sell it to? Kevin Coster?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Now he sold it to a big sporting group that
they're going to move it to that team to Frederick
and then have like a college team playing.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Really, no way, yeah, that's a bit of a bummer.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah it's lame.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Oh yes, Jeremy Clements Facebook page. I'm waiting for the
picture load, but it does indeed appear that they have
the main logo. Hell yeah, Spartan Burger's with the arrow
and then the Hamburger wearing the engineer hat with the
baseball cap. Yes, they've done it correctly.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
It's the diners, the diner logan, the old school diner. Sigh.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah, yeah, they've definitely done it, done it correctly. Good job,
Good job Jeremy Clements in that fifty one team. Good
job Spartan Burger's job, Spartanburger's exactly. Yeah. All right, So Betts,
last week I think I lost, No, you won, I did.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah, you don't remember any of your racting. You Chase
Briscoe and finished ninth, finished twelfth, okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Because Briscoe was just like not in the mix. He
was like outside the top ten for so long that
I was like, there's no way I'm going to win
this with him.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, you win, big winner. I got all cars including derikkrause.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Ooh nice, you could you could take the cross.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Good good longevity race though. Yeah, gotta you just gotta
you gotta have that long jeviy. You gotta go all
night long. Baby. You gotta be ready, you gotta be set.
You gotta have that monster energy on board. Gotta get that,
and you gotta you gotta be the person on the precipice.
You gotta be hungry for it. You gotta be no, no,

(59:27):
not weird. He's not even entered the event, just right
around the track for six in a miles wild Well,
and I'm gonna take a guy who's been on the precipice.
I think he breaks through this week and.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
That's uh Ty Gibbs O interesting.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Young He's not gonna get tired out as much and
he's gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah. Um, So I'm not taking Kyle Larson mm hmmm,
because I mean, you can't do both those races and
do well about those races.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Sorry, he's not plenty Stewart from two thousand and one exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
M Who should I take? Now? The big thing is, like,
you know, Jimmy Johnson is in this race, and Jimmy
Johnson there's fantastic stats at Charlotte Motor Speedway. I mean,
I don't think it will be inappropriated at all to
take him, I mean, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I think no, Yeah, it would absolutely. I think it
would be incredibly our Lord twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yes, incredibly inappropriated to take him terribly. Who should I
go with? Here Man? Somebody who can?

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
It is a dumb race because you got three three
stages all broken up are four stages rather than you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
All right, So I feel there's one driver that that
I feel like I should take, But then I feel
like I should, like instead take a Hendrick Motorsports guy
because it's kind of like their wheelhouse. I'm gonna go
with my gut, which is not going out on very
much of a limb. I'm gonna go with Christopher Bell. Okay, yeah,

(01:01:04):
give me Bell in this one. I think even if
he doesn't win, he'll have a really good race. I
think he's got a good chance of being up there.
Okay where where you know? I'm not gonna take for Hendrick.
I'm not gonna take Ca Larison and so at least
to like Bowman or Byron. And Byron would be a
good pick, but he hasn't done anything recently, and Bowman
is just kind of there right now for me, So yeah,
give me Sea Bell. Do we do we have a

(01:01:27):
side bet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
That's Jimmy Johnson. Okay, right, it's horribly inappropriate for a
win Jimmy Johnson forty cars or euro.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
He's been so bad in these legacy races.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
But but no, well this year he's been okay in
the one race I think he raced this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Year, right, wouldn't it like Daytona or something.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
He's just like luck looked at me, man, buddy, buddy, hmm,
yeah it was yeah, God damn give me out of forty.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
He does so bad in these things. Man, give me.
I'll be nice to him. I'll give him twenty eighth. Wow,
seven time champ Jimmy Johnson the twenty eighth because there's
no my racing car in there. There are two other
legacy cars. There's a Hiak car in there, sixty six
up in there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
He is going he is going to jump over what
is it, twelve cars? Yeah, you finished better than twelve cars. Huh.
That is something this year. Uh, he finished third at
Daytona and that's been about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
It because all the recks, you know, he just survived.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah. Conversely, last year at Daytona, the Daytona five hundred
finished twenty eighth. It's a plus twenty five improvement.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
All right, So I like that twenty eighth pick.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Then it's a good pick. It's a good pick. Um
feel a little froggy. I'm feeling a little dumb. I'm
feel a little stupid. I feel a little drunk already
for the holiday weekend, it's a long race, utility race.
People are gonna get antsy give me Jimmy Johnson in

(01:03:12):
the top fifteen, fifteenth place with Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
This is way it's way more fun than betting on
like like what's his name that we were just talking
derk Krause. Because it's m y racing. We know they're
gonna be near the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Right, it's thirty five or less.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah, so this is way more interesting. So I like
this one a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Gimme, gim me a give me a fifteen on that,
all right, let's do it well, finish fortieth and then
it'll be like, oh, never gonna bet on Jimmy again,
actly exactly all right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
So to recap in the race, I've got Christopher Bell.
You have who did you pick?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I picked Ty Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Oh, Ty Gibbs. That's right right, Monster car Ty Gibbs.
And then for the side bet, Jimmy Jimmy Johnson, excuse me,
I've got him twenty eighth. The Wiseman has him fifteenth.
If you want to find out who wins the race,
whin's the bet, who wins the side bet? Whether it
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forty third day of the year. Yeah, let's go all
the way, all the way out here to fifteen thirty three,

(01:06:10):
when the marriage of King Henry the eighth to Catherine
of Argonau is declared no one void, off with her
head there, you know. Sixteen oh nine, the second the
official ratification of the second Virginia Charter took place. So
it's just like, here's where Virginia is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Wait, so Virginia got two charters before everybody else. Did
they sign that deal with NASCAR.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Way back then they had forced the France family, the
country of France forced them to the charter. South Carolina
became the eighth state to ratify the US Constitution in
seventeen eighty eight. Oh wow, nice, good for them going
for him. I don't think that's the good one. Canadian

(01:06:54):
Parliament and Funkadelic established the Northwest Mounted Police, which was
the fore runner to the Royal the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Nice,
So they got that going for you don't know, that's
a lot of words in that one. Don't want to
do that one. The in nineteen oh seven, the una
camera camera ism Ism, which is a type of legislature

(01:07:17):
consisting of one house or assembly that legislates and votes
as won uh in the Parliament of Finland, gathers for
its first plenary session.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Okay, that's lots of big words there too, man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
The other one was like a paragraph nineteen eleven, The
New York Public Library is dedicated nineteen thirty four. A
bit of a tragic one. But Bania and Clyde were
ambushed and killed this day in nineteen thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Yeah, it was only it was only nineteen eleven that
you go to the library before that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
You couldn't then, but yeah, I know you had to
have a card, and they didn't have cards until then.
Hard event, until until till May one of nineteen eleven.
That's probably correct. Yeah, that's what happened. That's a bad one.
That's just World War two cramp. That's a tornado. That's
an assassination. Yiice, that's a crash, are you? Nineteen ninety five,

(01:08:14):
first version of Java programming language is released. Really what
year ninety five? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Wow? That later? Okay, right right on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Two thousand and six, the Alaskan stratovolcano Mount Cleveland erupts.
Witnesses say you can hear it going damn, damn, damn, damn.
A family guy joke for you millennials out there. That's
a bad one. That's a bad one. Not a lot
of good ones, not a lot of good ones. Happy

(01:08:48):
birthday to Phillip the First of France, born this day
in ten fifty two, King of the Franks, and one
of the earliest kapetionis to rule in France modest recovery
from the low it reached during his reign during the
reign of his father and read the first.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Do you think do you think that they ever called
him Phil? And if so, do you think he was
ever an uncle?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Mmm? Yeah, probably he threw his through his son's friend
out of the door. T R P l r p uh,
Uncle Phil, miss you every day of Bunny.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
That's it.

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