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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George and shoot.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Damp fun smoking like hell now coming down don't.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson and was
I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile, right across
the internet from you in a beautiful studio by the
Day version two points here it is when mister Scottie
was what was happening to Arwasman.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's the rainy season here apparently, Oh, thereto paramy.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's getting to be the warm season here?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Did not put a damper on the turnstile free concert
that happened last nur And.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
It was free. I didn't, okay. So they were talking
about that on Series XAM and they were just they
just said a concert in Baltimore. They didn't say it
was free.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was a free concert at the Wyman Hills Dells
by Johns Hopkins. Wow, ten thousand plus people showed up. Yeah,
they raised thirty five thousand dollars for health care for
the homeless. So it was a free show. But you
were in courage to donate it to something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so that's awesome. Yeah. A while I was thinking about going,
and then I realized that's just too many people.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Wow, shout out of Maryland's own turnstile, man eactly showing
up doing something fun for the community and doing something
good for the community too.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Also shopping for cars on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
So oh oh, no, oh, no, what's up with the journey?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It is dead? No rip girl, it was it was
becoming more money than it was worth into it.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
That it In its defense, it stuck it out for
a long time in a lot of harsh environments.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Thirteen thirteen years in the family. Wow. And a couple
of weeks back we had to put new tires, new brakes,
new front struts, oh, new tire links, and I think
the one of the axles was starting to break. No,
it was was time.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Wow man. Yeah, that made it all the way to
Canada the dudd I thought, I thought you had it
up there, got it in North Dakota? Okay, right, I
was still It.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Went from Maryland for six years up to North Dakota
for another six years, or no, for another five years,
then traveled across the country back to Maryland to die,
to die where it lived.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
But I mean, you know, I mean the environment in
North Dakota not that much different than would it would
have experienced in Calgary in terms of the pretty much.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And we would have known earlier that the hoses didn't
last out there. And yeah, that was the first problem
with the car. The hoses burst on everything.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
And wow, wow, bummer, I can't even imagine the wa
was Man without the journey.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's different. Change. I now have a Nissan.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh wow, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's fully loaded. Fully got a lot of buttons, right,
buttons don't know what they do? Right, right, right, just
pressing them like.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
You can see your phone on the screen and everything.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now I can, I can turn steer. And I got
a heated steering wheel.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Nice do that.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I got the heat seats, I got the sport, I
got the Echo, I got the all wheel drive. Wow,
man departure.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
But just just so people understand how long the wats
Man has had the Dodge. When he got that Dodge,
Dodge was still in NASCAR.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Were they?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Maybe the Truck Series twenty eighteen. I'm all right, they
might have been in the Truck Series.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Let's just go with that though. Sure, let's just tell
people that. Let's just tell people you got it that
long ago, because it was. It was around like when
it was new then yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Twenty when Big stand button in twenty twelve, exactly, it was.
It was a thing.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It was the Casey Kine Special Edition.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It was a digit did Dodge. So, yeah, it's a
fun time, that's for sure. Wow, man well farely Well.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It was a it was a Chevy that won at Kansas.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It was. It definitely was so in relatively easy fashion.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, definitely relatively easy fashion. And because we had the
situation already where Christopher Bell wins three races, everybody's like, oh, oh,
he's going to wain the championship. It's over. And then
Dennie Hamlin went back to back racers, They're like, oh,
he's gonna win. The championship is over. Now that coll
Larson has went through races, everybody's like, oh oh, he's
won the championship already, it's over.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Na's cards a very reactionary sport because they need to
grab those headlines because no one's gonna watch otherwise.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I guess, So, I mean that's got to be it.
They're like, oh my gosh, he's the greatest of all time,
and there's something about him comparing him to the Greatest
Drivers of all time on the front page of NASCAR. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean it's for Larson. You can make that kid.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah. I mean, you know, obviously he's better than your
average driver for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah. And I mean and the disciplines that he's able
to drive in and the races he's been able to win,
I think all like as an all around guy. Sure,
I mean, obviously he's not going to get up there
for like totality of wins and things like that, but
I guess the conditions in which he drives and the
tracks that he's driven at and been able to win at.

(05:19):
And the biggest thing for concern for me for Kyle
Larson is how is this upcoming double attempt going to
screw with them? Yeah? Because I mean you get into
those two different disciplines and you're stressed out the high heaven.
And I mean last year he missed the Coke six
hundred entirely because of the rain that halted the D

(05:42):
five hundred. So is he going to get more favoral
conditions this year? Doesn't think how is he going to race?
Is that going to affect this is something going to
affect the season one way or the other. I mean,
I don't know, it's it's a difficult situation to read now,
and I think, you know, we're kind of as we
were with Chris Bell and as we were with Danny
Hamlin crowning a king way too early.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
But I mean it's impressive what he's done, but we've
seen this year in and year out. We should not
be surprised by this right now.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
And as it pertains to the n five six hundred thing,
it helps that he has multiple wins already, so he's like,
get in the playoffs, and NASCAR is not going to
let him not be in the playoffs, just like we
saw last year. You know, they'll give him the waiver.
Whether they should or not is irrelevant. They're going to
give him the waiver because they need him in the playoffs.
It would be stupid to not have him in the playoffs.

(06:32):
And that just illustrates it just illustrates better the ridiculousness
of the playoff system, right that that in any other sport,
your best teams during the regular season are are going
to be in the playoffs. It's not like, oh, well,
you know you got like your star pitcher got sick
one day so you can't be in the playoffs. It's

(06:54):
just weird that that that even has to be a question.
But that's only because the system exists the way that
it does. So it does help that he has multiple wins.
He knows he's in, he can kind of relax about
the Cup Series race. But I will say this about
anybody doing the double. I don't think that anybody legitimately

(07:14):
has a chance of winning both races in one day.
The exercise is racing both racism one day. I'm the
driver who theoretically would have had the best chance to
accomplish winning in both series in the same day would
be Tony Stewart, and even he couldn't do it. So,
you know, I while Kyle Larson, this makes it interesting

(07:35):
in NASCAR is certainly leaning into it if you look
at their website, and they're gonna lean into it next
weekend big time. But but it really is just for me.
It's more of like a like a vanity project for
whatever driver does it.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, at this point, it's just like, hey, look what
I can do. Yeah, yeah, it looks like and then
that's about it. I mean, it's a situation where you're
just like, I'm bored with not a really great thing
or something. I'm bored of Nascar. I want to do exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
That's kind of what it's. What it speaks to a
little bit is like, Oh, I'm so like bored with
this whole Cup Series thing. Oh, I'll just do this
other thing to prove I can do it.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, I'm just gonna do this other discipline to show
you guys I can really do it and then tell
the other people that are like Nazi, I don't put
it in my contract, I can't race other things. I'm
good at doing both. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, So I mean that's gonna be obviously the big
story heading in the next weekend, and him winning in
May definitely helps NASCAR kind of hype that up a
little bit. Will they do a great job of it,
I don't know. I mean they certainly are starting to
try to make a big deal of it. Well, we'll
find out how that all pans out.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It doesn't help that those races are on different networks,
so it's not like one network can make it like
this huge thing, like watch Kyle Larson here and then
watch them there, Like that would be the way to
really maximize the marketing potential of that, but you know,
on different networks and one on cable and one on
network TV, it's just never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, no, God no, I mean, why would you, why
would you even do that? They tried, I mean they
tried back in the day, just finding Tony stuor even
Kurt Busch, like having to follow him and everything like that,
and just didn't jail. Just didn't jail.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
So there'll probably be some sort of NASCAR documentary that
comes out about it, Full Throttle Speed five next year
with following the double.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
By the way, I forgot to watch the Full Speed.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I saw a clip of Chris Bell and his wife
watching Chris Bell's wife on the pit box. I guess
that was something.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah they Okay, so on the front page of nascar
dot com, that's like their thing. This week, they've gotten
an article about Christopher Bell and his wife, and then
they have like an article about well, they're showing Joey
Logano and his wife, I think because they're like way
in the background there, but they're but they're heavy. They
have a whole article and here are the women of

(10:02):
here are the lives and it's been a while since
we've had the the wives and girlfriends thing in Nascar,
Like that was a thing like fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, when every sport had like a wives and girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I didn't realize that that was back.
But there again, and you and I may disagree on this,
like the fact that the show came out one week ago, right,
it was on the seventh, and we're one week in
and one weekend. NASCAR is like, yeah, we don't really
have anything here, so look at the pretty wives. Look
at the pretty wives and girlfriends. Like, to me, that

(10:39):
screams a little bit of desperation that they have to
make such a big deal about, Oh, we're going to
do this gallery and we're going to talk with articles,
and we're going to talk about all the wives and girlfriends,
the people behind the people, and that to me is
a layer of a show like that. But I would
hope that the main characters themselves would be interesting enough

(11:01):
that you could put that off until like a month
in type of thing and then make a big deal about.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
It kind of. I mean, I think it's like it
is desperation. It's just you don't have the character development
to have a certain driver or drivers to be a
focal point for the long term, like you do their episode,
and then that's it is. It's desperation, and I think

(11:26):
it's just need for content when you get the wives
and girlfriends, and not to say they're not interesting, but
they also should not be the focal point and often
aren't the focal point at the racist. So it's just
kind of weird how that all goes. But at the
same time, it's just like the name me, and this
goes for all sports documentaries at this point, Name me

(11:46):
a sport where the where the players are fascinating.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I mean people exactly. No people do say that about
the Formula one series, which I I've only watched a
little bit of, but I can't, I mean I can't
say with certainty because I haven't really watched it. You know,
there was one there was one motorcycle one that I

(12:12):
watched where they were talking about like these kids like
it was just getting in to to like the lowest level, right,
And these kids are all invited in and and you
get three years maximum to kind of prove yourself in
this series, and you get kicked out like every year,
like every year you have to be invited back, and

(12:34):
those kids and their backstory and everything fascinating. They were
genuinely fascinating. Of course the parents were involved too, because
you had like serious like like soccer moms and soccer
dads like full on and but but there again, like
they were the secondary thing, right, if they weren't in there,

(12:55):
it would still have been interesting. They just added this
other dynamic to it. And so that's the only years
I've seen about a sport where the main characters have
been like genuinely interesting people, and they didn't have to
lean too far into the parents. They look kind of
let the parents just like be themselves, and that was
you were like, oh gosh, you were either horrified or like, oh,

(13:15):
they're so supportive, and so they didn't need to have like,
oh now we're going to highlight all the parents and
on the website and everything. There was no website. But
that seems to be what NASCAR is doing because like
you said, they're they're the main characters aren't terribly interesting people.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
No, I mean even you look at you look at
the media tour that Kurt Busch had to go on
and in Mexico today this week, it's just stiff as
a board. O.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
It was it curt Or Kyle. Sorry Kyle Kyle, Okay,
because I could see either, I could honestly see either.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. Yeah, No, Kyle Busch stiff as a board did
not look like he was excited to be there. Oh,
I believe that probably because the whole gun charges.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, he wasn't going to get the comeback.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
He's probably worried about that was in the back of
his brain. He's like, oh, man, if they know I'm here.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
He's like, I'm gonna find myself on one of those flights.
Cell Salvador.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Now he's gonna have to he's gonna have to be
part of that, the little peace deal of the administration.
Just work for the cartel members. But yeah, I mean
everyone everyone who does promo, Like I mean, Brian Blaney
used to be fun and then he became serious at
Penske and then nothing. Bubba Watlace used to be fun.
That that's that light's gone.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, it is. He he's wrapped up so tight right now,
like he's so like in his own head that it's
taking kind of the fun out of it.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
And that's just it, Like there's expectation placed on them
by sponsors and everyone else, and they're just now now
they're not fun anymore.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
The only driver that seems to have any genuine personality
right now is in my opinion, is Stanny Hamlin. But
Hamblin is a very dry me Johnson type of person
to begin with, right, so he doesn't have that like
natural like charisma. He just says interesting things. And then

(15:11):
on top of that, now there's no way NASCAR is
going to lean on him for, you know, to to
be their voice when he's suing them. And so yeah,
and so like who do you throw in that spot?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
You know, all signs point to Dale Junior, the announcer,
the voice of the voice of the drivers is an
old driver, an announcer exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's all they got. That's all they really have.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, it's very interesting at any rate. Uh, Larson dominates Kansas.
Everybody was like, oh my gosh, last time at Kansas,
it was such a close Vintage three wide at the line,
and it was we can't wait for that to happen again.
And then it just it didn't not even close to happening.
Larson led nearly the entire race, and uh, it once

(15:58):
again goes back to you know, track conditions change is
part of it. But it's weird. Man. NASCAR like strikes
on something and they can't just leave it alone. They
have to keep dicking with it, and they think that
every time they dick with it, they think they're gonna
make it better, and then it just goes back to
normal or worse.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, very much worse. So they can't get out of
their own heads. And thank God for that because it
makes it more interesting and makes it easier to rag
on people.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
And right after we had a relatively decent crowd at Texas,
then we get to Kansas and there was nobody freaking there.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Nah, it's just I mean, that just was like half full.
I don't care what people say. I was like watching
people argue about it on the internet and people who
were there like, oh no, I saw a lot of people.
I'm like, dude, just look at an overhead shot. They
tried to hide it on FS one, but it's hard
to hide it, you know. I mean, there were good
seats were still available, let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Absolutely plenty of good seats were still plenty of good seats.
But I mean that's that's I mean, that's par for
the course. I mean a ticket prices are getting higher,
people are having less and less money. It's a weird situation.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, So without without hanging on that too much, because
this topic that we've talked about before, the main defense
that I saw online was oh, oh, this is NASCAR's
fault for scheduling race on Mother's Day on Sunday, and
and all these people were saying it as if Mother's
Day was like Christmas or Thanksgiving. And I'm like, yeah,

(17:35):
Mother's Day is a thing, but it's not like, oh
my gosh, the world stops it's Mother's Day. In my opinion,
I don't know, Maybe I just don't Maybe maybe I'm
just a bad son.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well no, it's just one of those things where usually
NASCAR has Mother's Day. Oh so it's it's it's a
it's a weird situation where they don't have it like
they have it Easter and they have Mother's Day off
and then race on Father's Day because that's how it is.
But at the same time, it's just like it's not
all that You're right, it's not that important of event.

(18:08):
People make it out to be a lot more than
it usually is for one reason or another. At least
for me, it's just like I gave a phone call
and put a post on Facebook, and a way we
went right exactly. Even though I live in state, I'm
just like I don't well, neither neither of my moms
or that, like, well one of my moms is, but yeah,

(18:31):
just by and large, it's just never been a big,
big ordeal.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
So yeah, yeah, I didn't get that. And there were
a lot of people that were also like, oh, they
should have done it on Saturday night, and they're not wrong,
like they if they did it on Saturday night, I
think the attendants would have been better, because while I
don't think that Mother's Day is an explanation for being
half full, there are some people that you know, had
plans and so doing it on Saturday, which is where

(18:57):
you would expect it to be if it were on
Mother's Day weekend, might get more ticket sales. But the
problem there is that, as we've talked about before, it's
not nearly as much about the ticket sales anymore as
it is about the TV money, and history has simply
shown that Saturday night races don't get ratings the way
that Sunday races do, and at this point, the ratings

(19:17):
are so low you got to take everything you can get.
And so I'm sure that if NASCAR could pick any
day for Mother's State weeken, they would pick Saturday night.
But I don't think that networks so allow them.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
To do it. I also think that the Fox, especially
for Fox Fox Baseball Night in America on Sorday, I think, so,
I mean, you're gonna be pushed to f s one regardless,
but I mean also Saturday Night worked for the fans too,
because you're you're already you got a day, Yeah, you can,
you can balance back, driving back and forth. You don't
have to rush. You don't have to take extra days

(19:50):
off if you don't want to, especially in a place
like Canvas where it's you know, Midwest. You know what
they said about the Midwest, right, No, Midwest is young
and restless. Oh okay, And then he went on and
said a lot of bad things, and we can't talk
about him. But I mean, it's a situation where Saturday
Night definitely makes a ton of sense and more more

(20:11):
sense than anything ever has made sense. But like you said,
it's just like, well, we gotta have we got to
push Sunday afternoon because people will watch Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, I've always I've always preferred Saturday night races. I mean,
when we were younger, I would go both to Richmond
with you and then to Dover with my family, and
Dover always on a Sunday. Richmond always on a Saturday night,
and those Saturday races are the best. Man. You get
there early, you can tailgate, then you go to the track.
You saw have a whole day to get back in

(20:41):
your normal swing of things before and get home before
you have to go back to work or school or whatever.
Saturday night races, as far as a fan is concerned,
are the best. It's just you know, since they don't
get quite the ratings TV ratings, then the network is
not interested.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah so, I mean, but at this point now NASCAR,
I mean, they tout the big six percent boost in
the ratings, but at the same time, it's just like,
you guys, got your money, what do you what do
you care about?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Exactly so, And speaking of ratings, this one was awful
little okay, so two point three one nine million on
FS one one year ago, exactly one year ago, the
race was at Darlington. This this past week, it was
at Darlington that was at two point six three million,

(21:29):
So that was down three hundred and eleven thousand. But
if you compare it to the Spring Kansas Race last year,
which was also an FS one, it was up a tiny,
tiny bit. Last year was two point two nine six million,
this year two point three one nine So literally plus
twenty three thousand people. That's a rounding era. When you're
talking about two point three million people, that's one percent,

(21:50):
like literally one percent.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, exactly. So it was there.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, So so ratings, if you want to take the
optimistic view of it, they were flat. If you want
to take the more pragmatic view of comparing year over year,
it was down a little bit. Yeah, kind of in
the same area. And you know, I don't expect I
don't expect too much variation. You know, even if it's down,

(22:15):
it's probably not gonna be down a whole lot because
you just don't have that much of an audience to
begin with. And so, yeah, the ups are going to
be just a little up and the downs are going
to be just a little down, I think at this point.
Unless NASCAR comes up with something big or somebody like
comes on the scene that has the same you know,
charismatic draw as a Dale Earnhardt Senior, A Dalearenhart Junior,

(22:36):
Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, somebody like that.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Uh we won't.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm not at this point.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's just I haven't seen anybody make a you know,
make aig deal about themselves.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
All right. So in the standings, Kyle Arson, because he
wins the race, takes over the top spot from William Byron.
Byron did not have a good race. He finished twenty
fourth in this one. He was thirty five points behind
now and second. Christopher Bell, despite having three wins and
having already won the championship, is eighty five points back
in third. Chase Elliot is fourth, Ryan Blaney is fifth.

(23:11):
Those guys are ninety one and one hundred and seven points.
There's one hundred and seven points separating fifth and first.
Right now. The rest of the top ten is Reddick, Hamlin, Bowman, Logano,
and Wallace, which is where because Hamlin's already won the
championship two according to the media. At the bottom of
the top sixteen, you saw Ryan Priest in sixteenth, but
Josh Barry is just behind him, seven points behind him,

(23:35):
but has a victory. Right so that leaves Ricky Stenhouse
Junior once again in the final spot if the playoffs
started today, in fifteenth, but still really really tight below
those guys Kyle Busch in eighteenth all the way down
the Todd Gilliland in twenty fourth are separated by only
seventeen points. Yep, so and Bush is just behind Stenhouse

(23:57):
and Josh Barry. You know, you've got a really tight
race down there for the final spot, potentially the final
spot in the top sixteen or in the sixteen playoff drivers,
depending on how things play out. And we've had twelve races,
so we're what just almost halfway there?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, just about so will be the halfway.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Basically, everything I just said about the bottom of the
top sixteen is really preemptive because oh yeah, halfway. But
still it's an interesting it's an interesting battle to keep
an eye on because, as Richard Petty says, the best
battles in on track are back in twentieth Yeah, and
we never see it. So we're at least telling you
about it right now in case one of these guys

(24:40):
takes off in the second half of the regular season.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Definitely get your ears on with this. Folks. There yep.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
So this weekend, as we move on to NASCAR News,
is the All Star Race immediately after the All Stories.
I think it's immediately after the All Stories they are
going to announce the NASCAR Hall of Fame inductees, which
only be mildly interesting because the class isn't that strong.
We already talked about the nominees a couple of weeks back,

(25:07):
but there is still time depending on when you're hearing this,
to vote for the All Star fan vote. NASCAR to
try to build some momentum here have slimmed it down
from the top ten that we talked about last week
in the voting to the top five, and it's SFGI,

(25:27):
Shane Vin, Ginsbergan, Noah Gregson, Carson Hoosavar, Ryan pries and
Bubba Wallace. You know, I see it with SVG and
Bubba Wallace and Carson host Var is like the like
the the buzzworthy young driver right now. Gregson and Priesce
surprised me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think Greg Gregson doesn't really no well the following
he had last year, yeah, I mean and through Exfinity,
carrying all the way through Yeah, so I mean the
priest a little bit yeah, I think that that that definitely,
I don't know the underground swell of Ryan Priests uh
priests heads uh that that Priest's pieces. I think they

(26:08):
call him they really I would have believed you. Yeah,
God damn clue. But yeah, I mean it's interesting that
those are the ones that rise to the top. Those
are the five, yeah, that rise to the top, given
you know, Danny Sourez and other people.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
So there there was. I was just looking at NASCAR
dot com and there was a link to vote. But
now that link to vote is gone. There's a trivia link.
We should do trivia later. Oh yeah, it's not coming up.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's a shame.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't even know where you go here. It was
like in one of their ad slots, which is weird.
So just go to go to NASCAR dot com and
just look around enough and you'll eventually find that you
can vote for your favorite out of those five. Who
would you vote for?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Uh Gregson? Because I don't think he's gonna win one
of the heat races or whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, I could see. I guess it's the top
two go from the open race. I could see. I
could see Bubba being one of the top two. And
I could see Carson Josovar being one of the top two.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, he's been running really well.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
So I would vote for either. See, I would probably
vote for host of Art because I think Buba's gonna
win his way in Holsvar could but I would like
to see what he could do in the All Star race.
I know SVG is very popular and probably has the
least uh like, is the least likely to win his
way in and an oval track because that's not really

(27:37):
his thing. But then I'm like, okay, so what do
you do? You vote him in and now he's in
another oval track race. You're gonna waste your vote because
he's probably not gonna win.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, I mean, you gotta just waste your vote. I
mean it's just like federal elections, right.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Exactly exactly. I mean, all right, what else have we
got here?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, you have one of the biggest stories in here.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
By the way, I don't what did I miss? Tell me?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
The Federal Appeals Court hearing the front Row Motor Sports
twenty three eleven anti trust with the three judge panel
oral arguments injunction, and I think one of the quotes
was you enter an agreement to participate in askcar. There's

(28:28):
various terms you have to agree to. Three important here
is that ever two and a half years of negotiating
team that were once brought up the issue of a
lawsuit release clause and there said there was a problem
in section in the section release and something where they're
saying like, hey, you know you want to be part
of this, but you also want to be able to

(28:49):
sue him for anti trust and I don't know if you
can have your cake and eat it too. Kind of
situation really interesting. Yeah, so so here, Yeah, so here
it is. Judge Knee Knee Meier said, let's just say
it is anti competitive, then don't enter into it. You
don't sit here, You don't sit there and say I
want to want into that contract, but also say I

(29:10):
want it modified to allow me to bring my anti
trust claim. If you think the release excludes you from
the opportunity, it's very difficult anti trust legal theory. You
have in that you want to join the league, but
you don't want to sign the mutual releases. The question
is that the mutual releases would get rid of pre
existing anti trust claims, and if you have pre exams
and the anti trust clams, you should bring them and

(29:30):
don't expect to get the contract. But if you expect
the contract, you should expect to get rid of the
pre existing anti trust claim. So I can't. He's like,
I don't see how you can say. I want him,
but I want the contract modified to get rid of
the mutual release clause. Interesting, and then the lawyer for
the team said it would cause HAVOC to overturn this
injunction in the middle of the season. Well, if it

(29:52):
just says into effecting to November, we're done and then
we'll have a trial and then we either win or lose.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, which I kind of a with.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I mean, and the judge, you Myer, said he believes
the lawsuit release clauses not anti competitive but merely but
rather merely anti lawsuit. It's also worth noting the factually
the mutual lawsuit release clauses are in common areas in business.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Okay, yeah, well, I mean that I'm not familiar with
because I am a judge, I am a lawyer. So yeah,
that's very interesting. And I wonder what the outcome of
that is going to be, because it would it would
certainly change the dynamic for those two teams. If they
went from this week being a charter team to next

(30:36):
week not being a charter team, obviously they could still
show up and they could still race, and they would
make it in. Like there's no real reason that they
wouldn't make all the races. But I mean, maybe front
row if there was a race where a lot of
people showed up, but I doubt that I think that
there were drivers would make it in. But yeah, I
think that, hmm. I mean, I kind of see what

(31:00):
the judge says. They're like, you know, by by not
being a charter team, you're reinforcing your claim that hey,
it's a monopoly, and that's why we can't play by
the rules. Like that's why we can't play fairly by
the rules like everybody else, because we don't want to
be part of the monopoly. But I think out of
a sense of common decency that they would allow them to,

(31:21):
like Firm in twenty three eleven said just allow it
until November and then it's dropped and we'll figure it
out after that. In the actual trial.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, pretty much, it's just like, let us we'll run
the season, because nothing gets solved until you know, here
we are in mid May and then yeah, it's just like, well,
run to the end of the season, then we'll win
or lose. Then that's the way we go.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I think at this point to say it already said
yes they could do it, I think that it makes
more sense to just let them do it.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know. It doesn't make sense to just now be like, oh,
this is this is it.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
But I'm no lawyer, and so if it if it
doesn't hold up legally, then maybe maybe they have the
charter status taken away from them. But boy, if they
do that, then I would think that because of the
nature of the case that NASCAR would have, the judge

(32:17):
would have to put some sort of limitations restraining order
on NASCAR to prevent them from selling those charters or
giving them somebody else, Because what happens if you get
to the end and twenty three eleven and FRM win,
but NASCAR, because they got the charters back, just shut
them down or give them to somebody else, or sold
them somehow, or ran teams on their own and said sorry,

(32:39):
we don't have any chartists for you, even though you won.
And so I would think that if they rescinded the
injunction that they would still have to put limitations on
what NASCAR would be allowed to do with those charters,
and then they would also have to decide if twenty
three eleven in n FRM win all those charters, they

(33:01):
probably have to decide ahead of time how those charters
would get reissued to them, because if NASCAR takes back
the charters and twenty three eleven n FRM lose, then
NASCAR is pretty much free to do what they want
with them. They could sell them to somebody, right, So
if twenty three eleven n FM win, but the injunction
is denied or rescinded, and so NASCAR ownsi s things,

(33:24):
what's to prevent them from saying, Okay, you're gonna have
your charters back, but it's gonna cost you twenty million
apiece type of thing. So those things would have to
definitely be put in place if they were going to
rescind the injunction and force those teams to run as
open teams.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a big mess, especially in
the middle.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Of Yeah, I like I said, I agree with the teams.
It creates too much havoc to do it that way.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, what else we got, Oh, Amazon Prime who's coming up?
Are they coming up after the All Star Race? I
think they are.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, So they're coming up after the All Star Race
and they're saying, hey man, we've nearly or NASCAR is
saying that they've quote unquote nearly sold out all of
their advertising. They good for them, And I would like
to announce that we have nearly sold out all of
the advertising for this show.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yay, good for us.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, that's a very loaded term, right, So.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I think it's also one of those things where it's
just like we don't know what the ad rate or
the ad push will be fore.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's true, that's true, But we also know what the
commercial load is going to be, like what the inventory
is is going to be, Like, we don't know if
the ads that they play during Prime are going to
be equivalent in number right to the ads that we
see on broadcast television or on cable. They might be,
they might not be. And then, like you said, we

(34:46):
don't know the rates either, so they could be selling
them super cheap to be able to sell them out.
I mean, I could hold an event at Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
which can hold a quarter of a million people and
I can release ten tickets and like six of them,
and I could say, hey, it's nearly sold out.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
We're sixty percent sold fill.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, we're sixty percent sold out, you know. Or eight
people buy tickets and we're eighty percent of that. There's
only twenty percent of the tickets left, but only ten
people are going to show up. So it it it's
that that's not a very encouraging statement unless we get
to the Amazon Prime races and the commercial inventory and

(35:24):
the prices are the same as cable, which let's hope
it's not because people are paying for Amazon Prime. Anyway,
you would hope desperately that that would mean there would
be less ads.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I wonder if they're not going to do like a
TV Guide channel situation where they have the race but
they have ads scrolling throughout that they might which could
be a good way to keep the race on the
entirety and have the announcers going, but also running your
ads is necessary.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I would take that. I would take that over the
old school like constant split screens, but then you're hearing
the commercial and not hearing the commentators or else, you know,
going away for like five minutes worth of commercials.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, you know, not a good vibe.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
So we'll see. We'll see what Amazon Prime comes up with.
I was I was hoping for a little bit more
creativity in terms of their broadcast crew. But they haven't
picked bad people, right, They picked the best of what
is available in the regular NASCAR realm. So I'm at
least encouraged that it'll be a a experienced broadcast crew.
That sounds good. We'll find out how entertaining they are,

(36:29):
and we'll also find out how many commercials in their
nearly sold out inventory that they that they play for us.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
But I mean, I think you also you also have
to take into account as how are we reinventing the wheel?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I mean it's just like, how how much different can
you have a broadcast of an event?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
How much more different can you get?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I mean a little bit you can. Like, all I'm
looking for is a little bit of that more laid
back atmosphere and more irreverent type of broadcast that we
saw back in like the speed days when we would
have you know, Kenny Wallison and Jimmy Spencer, you know,

(37:12):
and and they went a little nuts and they had
a little fun and it was a little too much.
It was a little over the top, but it was
more entertaining and in hindsight you were like, oh, man,
I wish they came back, you know, even though Keny
Wallace is kind of a whack job.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Now. Yeah, but I mean again, you're you're doing a broadcast,
the broadcast side of things, the actual broad telecast of
the race. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's the Kenny
and the Kenny and Kenny or Kenny and Spencer show.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, and that's that's That's what I'm looking for, is
the the stuff that's around the broadcast both right when
when they when they go down on the Onto Pitt
Road and they've got the stage there before and after
the race. That kind of a thing, you know. I mean,
just like in primes football broadcast they have, you know,
broadcasters in the booth. It's just to have the fun
people down on the sideline, you know, being themselves and

(38:03):
being interesting and being different.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, and you're not gonna have that, You're not. I mean,
you're not gonna have that in any in this especially
when it comes to the million, the millions and billions
of dollars they have paid. You're gonna get you're gonna
get the basic stuff, what's what's worked. We're gonna keep
with what's working, and it's the formula that hasn't gone,
that hasn't hasn't done anybody wrong ever in sport. And
we're gonna keep this formula because it works and we

(38:26):
don't feel like being different.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Well, I mean, at least they have Adam Alexander in
the booth, which is something I've been looking forward to
for a while.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yes, so aren't they doing like another telecast gimmick like
they are?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
They're doing the Burton thing, Burton and Larry mac and
I don't know exactly how that's gonna play out. I'll
be very interested in the first race to flip back
and forth and see what that's like.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, you would think they also have like a button
where you can listen to both feeds at the same time.
So but who knows. Let's I get then that get
crazy with it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, Harrison Burton is going to tempt to make the
All Star Race this weekend in the fifty one car
for Rickware Racing. Remember, actually, no, he's not gonna attempt.
He's going to be in because he won last year. Yeah, yeah,
he won the Daytona Night Race last year, so he'll
be in. He just needed the car because he's not
full time in the Cup Series this year, and he
got it with Morton Buildings. Morton Buildings is gonna.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Be on the car.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I don't know what that is. I'm assuming they make buildings.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, I am assuming they build things.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah yeah, either that or else. It's a man with
a very stately name. Hello, I'm Morton Buildings.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'd be wonderful it would be it's the all name
sponsorship team.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
It would be Moreton, Morton Buildings. Let's see here, Morton Buildings.
Everyone metal and steel, Pole barn Building. Oh, Pole Barnes. Okay,
right on, all right, so they make Pole Barnes.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Good for them. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Oh you could you could keep your RV in there?
It's actually a pretty cool looking Oh that's a nice garage.
Oh man, I would like to I would like to
have a garage like that. That one's got a little
like like overhang around the side with a porch, three
three bays and it's giant. Okay, Oh wow, you can
put a giant like like combine in that one.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Huh. Visual designs work greater podcasting John and I just
want to let you know this is a proven track record,
like like Amazon has done exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Now, these these buildings are good. So all right, kind
of kind of take.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
The word for it, folks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, But then Chad Bencham did I put this one
in here?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
I guess maybe I did. Chad Bencham is going to
attempt to make the All Star Race by running in
the All Star Open. He's gonna h do this week,
and then he's gonna come back for Nashville in the
Garage sixty six car. So there you go. And then
Aries and Turan are on the hood of the car.

(40:52):
Is that like a Is that like a country duo
or something?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
As in turn they could be, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
And then another the other pair, Cooper and Hunter will
be on the car in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah. Airs is the pioneer in advanced technology that is
designed to optimize electromagnetic field environments to support health and
well being. No, it doesn't sound like a scheme whatsoever.
So there, so there's that. Cooper and Hunter is an
HVAC market leader.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh cool, okay, all right. They apparently have partnered with
the New York Yankees. Everybody who's that Cooper and Hunter?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh good for that? Yeah, yeah, it's ah. Now this
is a great one from Josh Brownie, CEO of AIRS.
Chad isn't just a competitor. He's a new father, an
elite performer, and someone who understands the connection between environment
and performance. That makes this partnership deeply aligned. Chad discovered
ours through his personal pursuit of a cleaner, healthier life

(41:56):
at home on the track, and like many athletes who
work with he knows that high performance arts with low
interference vehicles are one of the most most EMF saturated
spaces in daily life, yet often overlooked. Whether it's race, car, family, suv.
AIRS helps reformate that reformat that invisible layer between technology
and biology. This movement is a symbol of something bigger.

(42:18):
From arenas to cars to homes, people are rethinking their
environment and you're proud to help drive the shift forward.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Wow. Very interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
And turn Equipment Companies sells and rents several types of
low hour construction equipment with a diverse array of attachment.
So not really much to do with EMF. No, No,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
That's very interesting. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
So there's that, so good, good for good for good
old Chad there to get that EMF testing. A couple
of more interesting news of notes, supercar drivers Will Brown
and Cam Waters are going to be in the Cup
Series for Chicago with making unknown and brock Feenie also
going to come over looking for an X Series race.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It's a brock Feenie.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Brock Feenie, I guess is one of Dale Junior commented
on that post, saying that he can wheel, so Dale
Junior approved for that.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
He's an Australian supercar driver. Mm hmm okay, right on.
I mean he sounded like he would be a professional
wrestler with a name like brock Free right exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Will Brown is expected to run with calig and Cam
Wader is expected to run with rfk Oh wow, okay, yeah,
brock brock Feenie is a Triple eight driver. Has not
turned a lap in the thing, but as possible expecting
the series. Twenty one year old has been one of
the supercar's most consistent performers over the past eighteen months,

(43:56):
so more exposure is looking for him. It would likely
be with a sh be aligned team, UH for that.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
So yeah, it looks I'm looking at his stats right
now and and yeah he's he was he's done four one.
He's in his fourth full season in Triple eight or
for UH in supercars Australian Supercars for a Triple eight team.
He won some races. He won one race in his

(44:24):
rookie year, finished sixth. Then his sophomore year finished third
in the standings with multiple wins, multiple wins. Last year
was second. Right now he's sitting third in the standings
with a single victory. He's only twenty two years old,
so so obviously has some success already and uh and
still has room to grow in front of him. So
it'd be very interesting to see how he does in

(44:45):
this kind of race environment. And uh and you know
how willing so with Shane vng Gizberg, and he had
already done a bunch of stuff right in Australian Supercars,
and so with the win opened the door for him it,
you know, when in Chicago, open the door for him
to come to NASCAR, And so he's got to take
the opportunity because he's like, hey, I've already done stuff
and if I need to go back I can always

(45:06):
go back and they'll welcome me back. With a kid
like this, like on the up stage of his career,
that would be a very interesting choice. Like say he
comes to Chicago Land, he finishes second or third, right,
and that gets some attention from a team, but maybe
not the best team, maybe like a like a front row,
like a like a mid level team, and they're like, oh,

(45:26):
we really want you to come over. We can get
a sponsor lined up, we can pay you. You know,
do you make that move and take a step back
in terms of your potential to win outside of just
a couple of road courses, or do you stick with
what you're good at already and you know that you're
on your way to hunting a championship with in supercars
and then get that supercar championship first and then hope

(45:48):
that maybe somebody's there in the back end in NASCAR
to give you an opportunity. I don't know how you choose.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Well, I think I think when you look at it
and you look at the Chamvay Ginsbergen model, he's thirty six, Yeah,
first full time season.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, so he had already done it. He
had he had very little to lose. This kid would
have something to lose at twenty two.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah. Well, but my point is this, he looks at
him and it's like, oh, he's that old and still
got a ride, Like even in that what I guess,
old in your mid thirties to get a ride. So
he's probably just thinking, you know what, if I'm a
good enough driver, people who are gonna want to work
with me, So I'll just do what I do. Because
it seems like Australia is the spawning point for new
drivers for NASCAR, so it's just like, well, you know,

(46:30):
let's let's just for him, it would be smart to
stay there. I'm comfortable with the cars, and just thinks,
you know, I kind of agreed, no rush now, because
you're if you're successful over there and you do get
a gig in the in NASCAR, awesome, But if you're
successful over there and can't get a thing in NASCAR,
you're still successful over there and you're gonna get your
money that way.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Right right. You know? There is uh, there's a racer
in another series that that it was a motorcycle series
but and not that top one, but still an international one.
Guys from Turkey and he was really good at the
second to highest series, right, and then he moved to

(47:10):
the highest division of that series, had a mediocre year,
and he was like, you know what, I can do
way better in my home country, going back and winning
at the place where I know I can win, and
he went on to win championships. He got offers to
move to the premiere you know, motorcycle racing series in
the world, and he was like, no, I would rather
stay here and be good in my Niche be like,

(47:33):
the best I can be in this in this series,
as opposed to moving up. And so there's something to
be said for that, and especially for you know, in
that case it was international. In this case it's national
and you live there like that's your home country, and
so there's something to be said for saying, oh, I
want to be the best in my home country, establish myself,
win championships, win races, and then maybe maybe down the

(47:55):
line look at and NASCAR.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I think you're right, Yeah, because in those situations, those
those gigs still pay if you're successful in that country.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
He'll be leaving a fight, he'll be living a fine
life regardless. It's just a matter if he wants to
make that big jump. I mean, especially at a young
and he's got plenty of time to grow and stuff
like that, so there shouldn't be a rush on him
at all. So hopefully he stays there and develops.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
He has to think of it this way, like if
he were to do well at Chicago and then sign
for like a Garage sixty six or you know, Rickware
Racing or something like that, then he could have maybe
minor success and you know, and then maybe go back
later on, or if he stays where he is in

(48:40):
supercars does regardless of what he does in Chicago, land
next thing, you know, he's got a piece of land
with a big ass Morton building's garage on it that
can hold a combine and has like a little shoutouts
or has like a little like poor ch outside he
can sit.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
At put another shrimp on the barbie that way.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I want one of these things now, man.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Plus, I mean, look at it this way, and look
at it this way. He's spent a decade in Australia.
He's still just thirty one. Yeah for sure, I mean
for sure, not a big deal.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah yeah, all right, what else we got? I just
have sponsor news that I can always be finally loaded
for me.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Here, Oh, hold on, hold on, here we go. Jeff Gluck, Oh.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Oh yes, yes, yes, I would be very very interested.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Do you have the voting I knew, oh man, twenty
two thousand.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Wow, that's a lot of votes.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Three hundred and thirteen votes.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
NASCAR if they weren't paying attention to this, NASCAR needs
to because he is generating more engagement than NASCAR's entire
platform is in terms of what fans actually think each week.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, but he's got two hundred and ninety two thousand
followers like he's that's just barely still.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
That's not bad, man, I mean that's tens of thousands
of votes.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Get your people out there.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I'm gonna say. I mean, collars and one colors is
really popular. So some people are going to be like, yeah,
this race was awesome. It was very one side, which
doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad race. It's just that,
you know, it didn't live up the expectations, and we
have a lot of comers and goers. I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna put it like forty two percent said it

(50:16):
was a good race.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Fifty eight point five percent it was a good race, okay,
all right, ranks fourteen out of nineteen Kansas races and
first next Gen Kansas race under eighty percent. Wow, the
slum continues. First seven races, no races were under sixty
eight percent, including five races over eighty. Last six have

(50:39):
been under fifty nine A Kansas rank is the best
and it ranks twenty first out of thirty five and
Kyle Larson wins on the pole man.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I'm telling you this all comes down to tires. It
really truly comes down to tires, because because cards the same, right,
the cards the same as last year and the year before,
and then all of a sudden, you know, the the
year started off fine in terms of fan perception and
then it's kind of falling off a cliff. And although
this one actually was pretty good, I think because it

(51:08):
was almost sixty percent, Yeah, but it but definitely it's
tailed off and the car hasn't changed. And this is
a variety of tracks, short tracks, intermediate tracks, stuff in between.
We'll have to see what happens this weekend at Wilkesboro,
but based on what we saw last year at Wilkesboro,
it ain't going to be the best. But for me

(51:29):
if the car is the same and racing it a
track like Kansas is so different than it was last
year and in years past. I mean that fifty percent
you said was what fourteen out of eighteen, fourteen and nineteen,
that is I mean, all I can think is has
got to be tires at that point. It's gotta be. Yeah, sure,

(51:53):
tires an arrow you know, because that combination can definitely
make more opportunities for comers go or some for drivers
to be able to pass.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Absolutely. One more bit of news here Chris Boucher penalized
after the Kansas race.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Oh yeah, what do you get hit with?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
You got hit with a front bumper cover not They
didn't have the The larger area did not meet the
rule of you know, the front facia maybe strengthen the
center surfaces with bonded non metallic material in the area
covering foam up to two inches in all directions. Had

(52:33):
a larger area than once permitted on that nose piece.
Christ So it went a little too far. They can
work on it, but they went too far in the
simplest terms of putting it. So team's been fined seventy
five one thousand assessed sixty ower points, sixty driver points,
five playoff points were an l one penalty. Crewchiefs Scott
Graves has been suspended for the All Star Race and

(52:54):
the Coke six hundred, So there you go.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Wow, man, they really threw the book out him a
little bit there.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Well, yeah, it's a it's an overall semily vehicle rule
and front bumper cover sub rules.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
So yeah, you can't mess with those parts and the
track like that. It could make a difference because guys
were bump drafting pretty hard on restarts and stuff like that.
So yeah, for sure, if I'm understanding the infraction right,
I would think that what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Is yah, yeah, that's probably what it was.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Reinforcing the bumper too much to try to hit a
guy harder, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
So interesting when it comes to sponsor news some places.
Oh wow, one's so interesting. I put it in there twice. Overplay,
whatever the hell overplay is is going to be on
the number thirty four to get a little in the
car in the All Star Open this weekend. Game Bridge
is doing a special scheme on the seventy seven of
cars and host of ar for the All Star Open.

(53:50):
Uh Carvana is going to be back on with Jimmy
Johnson in the eighty four car celebrating his seven hundredth start. Wow,
that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Congratulations. So yep.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
And then there was another one that was just announced
I believe today that Josh Barry is gonna have a
retro scheme. Looks kind of like they meant for it
to be like a Sitco style scheme.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
It's for the when mikey one in ninety six.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Oh gotcha? Okay, right on? Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
And that's the only the only way you would know
that is A if you watch the video and b
if you kind of saw what Dex was looking at
It looks like the sicko thing on the hood.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah, it doesn't really come across as a sicko car
outside of the color.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Right right. Yeah? Yeah. Found out what overplay is?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Oh, what's overplay?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
So overplay was on Shark Tank. Oh joy Mark Cuban
big investor in this. Oh my, So what overplay is?
It turns any video you have into a video game.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
How Oh crap. Now I'm gonna have to figure it out,
which means it's going to waste hours in my life.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah you can, you can turn you can turn anything
from cooking tentorials to extreme sports into interactive games easily
and with out coding.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Oh interesting, I wonder how that works for free too.
You can do it for free for free, and you
can click a button to invest on something called we funder.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, so I don't know what that is. You create
your record, let things go, and they customize. You can
put chargeable stuff in there, and then a lot evan
you play.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Interesting. So the weird part is I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the website and it says, you know,
make it, make a video and then make it into
a game. But it doesn't really explain. So it basically

(55:51):
has step one, collect underpants, does step three make money?
And then just a big question mark for step two?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Yeah, no, step step one collect underpantstep two, step three
profit exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
And so I I'll probably have to download the app
to mess with it and see what because there's no
examples like you show me an example on your website.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Man, Yeah, they do that.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I don't watch Shark Tank and I'm not gonna watch
shark tanks. So you're gonna have to work a little
bit harder on your website. To explain to me how
this happens and what the m result looks like for anybody,
like just one person. I just want to see what
the end result for one example.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Looks like. Explain it to me, like as a golden retriever.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah, exactly, for sure, that's what That's what I want
them to do. But that that is not what's happening
on the website. Man, it's the smallest website ever. It
just says download the app. Man, you're gonna love this
really is Mark Cuban says, download the app.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Download the app. I invested in this and made it free.
We also traded Luca. I'm sorry, another coming in. I
don't own the team anymore, but still.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
He fires sailed that thing. Although they traded Luca after
he's right.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
A new person was like, no, we don't need to
actually be.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Good, No no, no, we want we want another white guy,
but he's American.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I just I just want to trade off the team's
past success for about a decade and then see see
what happens after that.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Exactly for for Anthony Davis's need.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
And then that's what I got. So we're all into
the All Star.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Race certainly are North Wilkes again and officially hate this track.
It's gonna be it's gonna give us the same boring
dog shit race it did last year.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I mean, I'm hoping not, but I think you probably
are right.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, it's an All Stars. It's it's for one person
wins all the money. It's really a nothing race. But
we're convoluting the rules so people get confused and then
maybe somebody can make it exciting.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, and then the best part is that and we're
not going over all the rules again, but uh, the
best part is that watch it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There
has to be an article, like there literally has to
be an article, and this one on nascar dot com
to explain how the All Star Race works. And I'm like, dude,
if you gotta work that hard just to explain the

(58:17):
rules for one race, then don't.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Don't make the rules that way.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Make it into an overplaying thing and you can play
along at home.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah yeah, okay, So we gotta do how many cars
are in the open? I don't A couple extra people
are coming in. I mean we just talked about Chad Fincham,
so he's going to be in there, and then and
then Cody, where is gonna be?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
So twenty drivers are open or in there? Eighteen teams
entered for the.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Open eighteen okay, and then we'll get well it's only
eighteen eighteen, two drivers will transfer and then one will
be fanbo right right, yeah, so whatever we got there
plus three, So twenty one, twenty one cars in the open.
They're in the All Star Race.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, no, twenty three cars in the race.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Oh oh wait, okay, hang on? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
so there are twenty in the All Star Race right now,
and then then we get our two from the Open,
and in our fan vote thing, they're eighteen cars in
the Open. And I know Scotty just said that. It's
just I'm catching up with him right now, is what
I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
It's lag. But it's the lag between.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
The buffering is all I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I think he's like a real player.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
So so that takes us to the only good thing
on NASCAR dot Com, which he has subsequently ruined. And then
they made it good for a while and then it
was just kind of somewhere between. Now, let's say it's
not bad, and I mean it legitimately isn't bad. I
don't know how we're doing the Truck Series two this weekend, right,
I think so?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, they're at North I was gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I was like, how do we get fifty three paint schemes?
But yeah, Truck Series is racing there too. So as
you scroll through the paint schemes, all fifty three of
them that they have listed here, including masked owl, what
what are you like? Is there anything in particular that
you see that you're kind of digging?

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
First off, the forty five and the fifty four disqualified
you're the same car.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
They are the same car, just reverse paint scheme, which
I will give them credit because reverse paint scheme is
something that we haven't talked about for probably two decades.
But it used to be a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah, it used to be a thing. Yeah, that's not anymore.
Given number twenty three Logitech car, I think that looks
pretty cool on the bubble Wallace Machine Lot it's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Nice. Oh I'm sorry, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Like the blue shaky sides on the twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah, blue and black.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, it looks like you're drunk a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Give that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Give me that the seventy seven game bridge with the
WNBA All Star Game going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Okay, right on, yep, all Star Race advertising and All
Star Game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, and the WNBA baby shout out, shout out the
rest in peace, Dave like homie, Oh yeah, b WNBA guy.
Is there a truck that I like in here? Let's say,
you know what, I'll give Lane Riggs the number thirty
four for the u n C Charlotte. The gold Diggers

(01:01:04):
like the miners I think they are there? Are the miners?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Are they prospectors prospectors min Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
They gotta pick access a lot, That's all I'm saying.
All right, right right, so un Charlotte getting the getting
the nod. So there you go. What do you got?

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Man? I feel like I should pick a truck. The
the choices are not great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
So I was the same trucks Weekend Weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Feels like it is I in the truck series. I'm
gonna go which one should I go with? I'm gonna
go Sammy Smith in the t MC truck. I like
the gold up in there. TMC.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
This is a very retro looking sponsor.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
It is a retro looking paint scheme as well, and
the logo, even with the lines in it is retro.
They've been on that truck before. I remember them in
the past. Yes, but they got the orange, okay, right on,
right on you. They got the orange and the black
and the gold. So that's okay. I'll go with that
one in the truck series, and then I'll pick two
from the Cups Boston Common Golf. What the hell? They

(01:02:18):
obviously were struggling for a sponsor. Let's see here. I'm
gonna go give me do do do Do Do Do
Do do do do Do Do do do. I'm gonna
go with there's a tailand all car Come on, man,

(01:02:39):
give me Oh, I'll take uh. Kyle Busch in the
number eight SCENICX Chevrolet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Basically it's Phoenix, but without the at the beginning, just
replaced by us and not a yeh, I guess not
a city. I'm assuming the tools because below it does
say SCENICX Tools, which is good marketing. They put their
website clearly visible on the side of the car and
it says tools to let you know what they're doing.

(01:03:11):
I just I'm not a huge fan of the layout
of the paint scheme, but I like the colors. That
they picked. You know, they got interest like that charcoal
and then the medium gray and then the orange and
then I'm actually gonna give a shout out to the
twenty two. The Joey logano car. I feel like that's

(01:03:32):
the stripes above the twenty two and below the pennz Oil.
I feel like that's different than what they normally do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
And the shell looks like it's like old school back there. Yeah,
but maybe I'm seeing it wrong. I should probably go
back through some past pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I think it's definitely a new look for them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I feel like that's been tweaked somehow. Yeah, so,
so I like it. I don't like that the pennz
Oil logo is like straight. I think it should be
at an angle to take up more than door, and
it expanded out like it's like like bleeding off the
door a little bit. But other than that, I like
the little stripes that they added above and below the
twenty two and the PENNZOILA logo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Honorable mentioned the number six Solomon's Plumbing La Lakers car.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Oh wait, where's this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
It's not I don't think it's officially La Lakers, but
it's lak Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
It's very La Lakers colors. Yeah, for sure. So their
treatment of the logos on that car is very clip already,
it's very like copy paste, copy paste. It says Solomon
Plumbing and then next to that Solomon Plumbing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Right, it's just like, hey, which one do you want
to pick? We'll pick both? Wait, no, no, what the hell? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yeah that is that is very La Lakers though, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Indeed? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Wow, that's Keaz all right. So for picks, what do
we have last week? I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
You won that one? Ryan Blaney with third place. Elliott
Chase Eliet finished fifteenth. He did there in the lead
for a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
He was up there for a little bit there. And
then do we have a side bet? We did?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah? No, Chi, you finished the big sweep, big sweep
this week. No, Corey him, Corey him finished thirteenth. Wow,
so you picked your pick of twenty five? He gets
to win on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
So I do remember seeing him up there and was like,
what the hell? You can't believe that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Yeah, so there you go on that. So, uh, we're
picking the All Star Race for this one. Twenty three
cars total. Don't think any of the open cars are
going to be in the mix, So I'm not I'm
not gonna look towards them. I'm gonna look for a
guy who here's a guy god, guy who kind of

(01:05:48):
I don't think he's gonna he's gonna go all out
for this kind of race. He's not either, And boy,
I uh, I don't gonna picked any Hamlin the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Okay, Okay, I'm gonna go contrarian on this one because
Josh Barry, because oh that will actually not be a
bad pick. I don't think it would be because like
in the All Star Race, if if somebody is going
to do something weird and like kind of whin when
he didn't expect him to, the All Star Race typically
is a place where that would happen. So I'm gonna

(01:06:24):
go with somebody who is good at short tracks, well
at least on dirt. Chase Briscoe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Okay, that's a good one. Give me Chase pers you know,
and he's been I think he's had a couple of
top top vibes in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Okay, yeah, So then who do you think is gonna
what do we want to pick one or two for?
I think we should just pick one of the two
that's going to make it out of the open.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I was going to say most popular.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
We're going to do that too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Okay, so pick one well open open, and then most popular.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Because with two with two drivers transferring, let's each see
if we can hit on one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Okay, uh, I'll let you start first one. I have
no goddamn clue.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Um give me mm hmm, give me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Ryan Pries Okay, and your most popular?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Most popular.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Carson Hosvar Okay, I always I cannot spell his fucking name.
Nobody he can't even Yeah, all right, close enough, I
am going to pick. It's gonna be a little cop out,
but I'll take it Ty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Gibbs Okay, all right, I think that's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Pick as a win yep. And give me Noah Gregson
as a most popular.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Yeah. As soon as I said Carsonsavar, I'm like, Greggs
is probably gonna win it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah. Well, let's see. I think I think I think
Wallace and even though it pick picked Gibbs, I think
either either Wallace or Gibbs are gonna take one of
the segments, and hosts of AR will probably take the other.
So what Toyota and then one of the host of
ur drives is Chabby.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
So there yeah, so uh and then yeah that's enough.
That's we have two side bets there, so that's that's
plenty enough.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
You've done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Yeah yeah, so all right, So to recap, in the
All Star Race, I am taking somebody or other and
then you're taking the other.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Guy, ye Hamlin. Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I'm taking Chase Prisco, You're taking Denny Hamlin. Then in
the open, I'm picking Ryan Priest as one of the
two drivers of transfers. You're picking Todd Gibbs is one
of the two that transfer. I'm picking Carson Hostavar as
your vote winner fan vote winner, and you're picking Noah
Gregson as the fan vote winner. If you want to
find out who wins the bet, who wins the side bet,

(01:09:07):
who wins the other side bet, and whether it was
any good because it gets northwilksbur in the All Star Race,
and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Probably on a Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
This is a Sunday night too, man, come back here
next week. We will tell you all about it, who won,
what we thought of it, and then we'll look to
the Amazon Prime portion of the season. Uh, don't miss
the episode because you will cry if you do so.
What you should what you should do now is subscribe
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(01:09:37):
Stitcher Player, at IFM, Spotify, iHeartRadio. You can ask Alexa
to play it or do what the Wassman tells you
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Right about now. In the Draft Show dot com, it's
a website. The picture of cars behind I'm assuming that's Kansas.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, it's Kansas?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Or is that Texas? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Now it's Kansas.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
I had to go back to last year to find
a photo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
It was a really small picture on the front page,
is it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I don't know, man, Go look Kevin, I got more,
I got more Bristol behind me or whatever that track is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
It is Bristol, yeah, from a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Well yeah, no, because it's got the car or tomorrow cars,
and it's got people and there's people there. In any case,
go to the Draft Show dot com. If you're on
a social media why but in the Draft Show Facebook, Instagram,
and Twitter, do we use any of them? Use one
of them? Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
You have to describe exactly exactly to find out?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
No, that's it. That's all for Wilson. I want to
take care yourself and someone else. But in the draft
of Wilson, wats mystery for you? Here? As we may sixteenth?
Holy crap?

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
It is kind of small, isn't it. That whole column
is small.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I think it's just a bad picture you put on
there and it just didn't film.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
It's possible, but I thought I used that picture before.
There was an update for word Press, so I have
to go see if that did it at that mess up. Yeah,
we'll see how it does.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Fifteen sixty eight, Mary Krena Koreean of Scots flees to England. No, okay,
there you go. Mmm. The fifteen eighty four Santiago de
Vera becomes a sixth Governor General of the Spanish Colony
of the Philippines.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Umm. Seventeen seventy fourteen year old and Marie Antoinette marries
fifteen year old Luis Augustine. Wow, the start, I know, right,
Gotta get that stuff done early. Baby. That's a bad one.
That's a bad one. The Turks this day in eighteen

(01:11:42):
twenty two is nobody business but the Turks. They captured
the Greek town is solely in the Greek War of Independence. Oh, wow, okay,
all right. In eighteen thirty two, Juan Goodoi discovers the
rich silver outcrops of Shensilio, sparking Chilean silver rush.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Wow. I didn't know there was such a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Apparently there was, go figure. Eighteen forty two, the first
major wagon train headed for the Pacific Northwest, setting out
for the Oregon Trail from Elm Grove, Missouri, with one
hundred pioneers. Many of them died of dysentery.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Exactly, you gotta you gotta look out for the dysentery.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah. Eighteen eighteen sixty six, the US Congress establishes the
nickel No.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Wow, eighteen sixty six. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yeah, Now people want to do away with it. Who.
Eighteen eighty eight, Nikolay Tesla discovers delivers a lecture describing
the equipment in which allows efficient generation and use of
alternating currents to transmit electric power over long distances.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Nice. And then he made a time machine with it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
And then some of some of apartheid fat South African and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Just stole these same everything exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Nineteen twenty in Rome, Pope Benedict the fifteenth canonizes Joan
of Arc. Oh wow, y know, Miss of Arc, Yes, exactly,
Joan dark Uh. In nineteen twenty nine, Hollywood is the
first Academy Award ceremony takes place.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Oh okay, twenty nine, How about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
That makes sense? I'd say so uh. Nope, that's a
bad one. That's a bad one. That's a bad Jesus,
that's a really bad one. What the hell? Eighteen eighty eight,
certain general see ever Coop Coop Google chop Uh states
the addictive properties of nicotine are similar to those of
heroin and cocaine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
No, wow, I want to say that. See ever Coop
had like the Civil War style beard, like the like
the beard with no mustache.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
And so me, he does the gimmick that I do.
Oh then he does really yeah, he looks like he
could be like if the singer for Static, x Wayne Static,
had lived, he would look like that in his older years.
He has unfortunately passed. Soo. Queen Elizabeth the Second This
Day in nineteen ninety one addresses a joint session of

(01:14:08):
the US Congress. She's the first British monarch to address
the US Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Was it the joint session or a joint session?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
It's a terrible blunt rotation between Queen Elizabeth and like
not a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
My gosh, can you imagine those two high in a
room together.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Happy birthday to Pope Innocent the eleventh or in this
day in sixteen eleven, head of the Catholic Church and
ruler of the Papish States from seven or sixteen seventy
six to sixteen eighty. Now, wow, nice, did he do
anything special? Nope? Did not, Called the Savior of Hungary

(01:14:50):
and away he goes. Oh wow, Okay, there we go.
That's it. That's all we've done it. So enjoying the
All Star Race as much as you can. It might
put you to sleep, so use it as a sleep
aid on the sudden night, and we'll talk to you
about it next week. Until then, pease, thanks for listening

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Kansas Doesn't Quite Hit - Will the All-Star Race do Better?

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