NASCAR Rule Change HELPS the Teams Suing Them

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George this time smoking like hell now coming down,
don't anything and welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson
and was I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. You
meanwhile right across from your beautiful studio by the Bay
Version two point zero it is When mister Scotty was

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what's happening in there?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Was many Are they going to take take the show
away from us?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Wait? Are they doing it?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Are they relocate the show to somebody else?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
What did I say?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, it's just it seems that NASCAR likes to relocate.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh yeah, they absolutely do.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
They're going to relocate it here.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Here's the weird thing about that. And we're going to
talk about the whole San Diego situation and the Chicago thing.
So Chicago was like, you know, we want to keep
doing this, which was weird. I didn't think they were
going to say that. But we don't want it to
be on July fourth weekend, which makes perfect sense because
why have a major event at a time when you're
already gonna have a bunch of people there for a
major event, right, And they're like, so we want a

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different weekend, And NASCAR was like, Okay, that's cool. So
we're going to say no, and we'll loop back with
you and we'll come up with a different weekend, and
then we'll try to make this happen in the future.
Right then, they haven't announced it yet, but apparently they're
about to announce that they're going to do the street
course next year in San Diego, but on a different weekend.

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And I'm like, well, if you were going to do
the street course on a different weekend anyway, and Chicago
wanted to do it on a different weekend, why was
it like, Oh, no, we've reached an impass. Instead, we're
going to replace you with another race on a different weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I bet you the weekend and they had Chico was like, nah,
I don't know about that. I guess I guess shuffle
on the feet.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, maybe they didn't want to do Father's Day weekend.
Who knows, that could be it too.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, so I mean, I know, I know father say,
I'm like, hey, we're going to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Right absolutely, you know, as any good person does, just.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Just like I always say, hey, we're going to San
Diego right right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, you can easily say that, you can easily get.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I could, Yeah, I could do that, but I've never
done it on Father's Day, so maybe that's a tradition
for somebody. There.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You go, we'll find out, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, we're gonna find out, all right, So dover mm hmm.
So Denny Hamlin has now bended over multiple times and
he's won multiple times. I'm very upset about this whole
thing because you picked Denny Hamlin, Yeah, any one. But
I picked Chase Elliot and he was.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
On the freaking ball, yeah, and he led the most laps.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
And led the most laps, and I thought he was
gonna win, and then all of a sudden, Denny Hamlin
comes up, and I'm like, no, it's not just that
Chase Elliott is about to lose. He's gonna lose Denny
freaking Hamlin, which makes it doubly bad.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Hmm. Yeah. No, that was was a big race, big pool.
I mean the rain delay I think helped reorganize, refigure
some people out get things going that way. But I
mean overall, I mean, Denny Hammon has been on a mission.
He is had had the time of his life off
the track with litigations and things. But also I mean
he has had this. This is a hell of a

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season for Hamlin. I mean I think we're echine towards
his best. But I mean when you look at everything
else and we've had, you know, three other guys with
three plus wins, I mean, that's pretty amazing that he's
got four wins on the year.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, I'm going to look at his stats right now,
because this is his fourth victory, like you said, in
a season where not that many people have even more
multiple races at all, the most that he Okay, so
he's had Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I want to say he's had a seven year win ones, mate.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, he did. In twenty twenty he won seven. In
twenty nineteen he won six. But in twenty ten he
won eight freaking races. How did that win the championship?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Dude? Well, I mean we'll get to that with what
Larry Max said. He was second in the championship.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, so he was second in the championship that that
particular year when he won eight races. But compared to
I mean, he's already doubled his victory total from twenty
twenty one in twenty twenty two. In twenty three and
twenty four, he had three wins apiece. So now he's
got four. I mean, I don't see any reason, especially
with the playoffs coming up. Usually your best drivers are

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gonna win something in the playoffs. I mean, so I
don't see how this isn't going to be a five
to win season for him, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I hop I mean at this point, you hope he does.
I mean, I mean, hell, the thing for him to
just get there and then the first round just have
the worst experience of his life.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, that is kind of like a Joe Gibbs type
of thing to do sometimes. Yeah, get the especially.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
That eleven team. That eleven team always has the string
of bad luck some way for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
So is he peaking too soon? Who knows? I mean,
I guess we'll find out. But it's possible, definitely.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, and a lot of things are possible, let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, So what did you think of the fact that
they delayed the race and didn't just simply cancel it
with fourteen laps to go? I was kind of torn
on that at first, because on one hand, I was like, Okay,
there's some time left before it gets dark. They might
be able to dry off the track, and if you
can finish it, then I guess so. But at the

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same time, the flip side of that is a I
was thinking, if they go back racing and Dennie Hamlin
loses this as good as he's been up until the
point of the rain delay, that would kind of be
bs right If it was just because of the layoff
with the red flag and wait for the track to
dry and then some weird stuff happens and he loses

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because of it. It didn't seem like it would be right.
And then the other thing, of course, I was thinking,
is NASCAR wants to do anything they're freaking power to
make sure that it's somebody other than Denni Hamlin were
twenty three eleven, were an FRM car winning and there
are so many cars behind him that could catch him
that we're going to sit this thing out to try
to prevent Denny from winning.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, well, I mean, I think there's a lot of
people who're just like, it's a small store, and we
don't want this to wreck the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
It wasn't that big.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It wasn't no, no, no, it was a small spot. Given
the fact that the East Coast had been pummeled with
rain for the majority of July. Yeah, definitely not a
big storm. But I mean, I think overall they wanted
to get the most out of it because they're like, well,
we've gone this far, why are we going to hang
it up now? And I mean the Denny Hamlin thing,
I'm sure has a little to play into it, but
at the same time, it's just like, you know, they're like,

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it's a little brief thing. Better to red flag it
and get them out of there to do cleanup than
have them running around fourteen laps of cautions or whatever,
just because we don't know if it went, will it went,
and how good is the track going to be in
this that? And they got you know, to their credit,
they had a pretty drive pretty.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Fast they did. They did, and then there it wasn't
just cakewalk for Denny, and all credit to him on
this one. Man, he had to like do restart after
restart because everybody just kept fricking wrecking at the end
in those final couple of laps. I think they went
to two overtimes in this one, and all of those
cautions and all of those overtimes and all of those
restarts brought tire strategy in the play because there's a

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group of drivers up to the front that hadn't changed tires,
and then there were some guys mid well back at
the top ten who did, and that gave Chase Briscoe
a chance to get up there on fresher tires and
try to make a run at the end. But every
single time, it didn't matter who Denny was going up against,
he was able to hold him off. Some more power
to him.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean, you kind of can't can't deny it.
I mean, by and large, it was a pretty decent
weekend for Gibbs overall. I mean, three in the top five,
not too shabby at all. So so those Toyotas were
hauling it in a big, big way. But you kind
of feel bad for Chase Elliott for leading pretty much
two thirds of the race and the next thing, you know,
oh no, here we.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Go, screwing the pooch for me and the picks.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, well, hang, you got you had the first pick,
you had the full field.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I know, I know, and I was right for most
of the race.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And larn sure not gonna count though unfortunate counted at all.
It's a fun fact about this second straight win, like
first overall for me with SVUG and Hamlin and its
third in the last four weeks because Chase Elliott got
me and win in Atlanta. Oh that's right, So riding
high right now? Maybe, man, all I.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Got was that first SVG and I was stupid enough
not to pick them the next two times.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, well it happens, right, Gosh.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Freaking a j Olmendinger. So ratings for this one not
the best two million, even on TNT, although in that
announcement they said on TNT and True TV, And I
don't know what they're showing on True TV. I don't
know if it's a rebroadcast of the like simulcast of
the race. I don't know if they're doing like extra

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content or driver cams, or if they've just got you know,
the impractical jokers in the field, messing around with the
pick crews or something like that.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
They have the it's actually a picture and picture you
have the impractical jokers and picture and picture, and then
like during breaks instead of breaks, they just showed it
in practical Jokers.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, exactly. They're like running around, like moving tires of
different teams and stuff like that, seeing if they got
trouble split screen.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It in a way they go.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ye, last year's Dove, which was actually in April, not
in July, that one got a little bit better. It
was two point four million on FS one, So in
that respect, it's not that far off. Exactly one year ago.
You can't really compare. That was the Brickyard. It was
on NBC and it had three point six three million.
Of course, the Brickyard this year is next weekend, but

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still on TNT. So it'll be very very interesting to
see with this final TNT race because it is such
a big race, what they can do if they get
a bump over the just over two million that we've
been seeing for their races, because it is like a
marquee race, or if we're right in the same area. Yeah,

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I mean I would think we would get something like
maybe two points.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
We would have to get something right, Yeah, you would
have to think so, because well, I don't know, I
don't know how many people are going to care.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's a good question. Well, I mean a lot of
people are going to care because you've got tie versus
tie in this one.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
It is it is the tie, the tie of the century.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Now, is it like the old school spy versus spy
where one stressed in black and the other one's stressed
in white.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
We don't know the paint scheme previews, and.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
If they would, if they would do that, if they
would do like a spy versus spy like paint scheme
thing for a Tie versus Tie, that would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You can guarantee that that the ty Gibbs is going
to have the Monster Energy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Car that would be black, mostly black.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, so just a matter of what Tie ty Dylan does.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Now, Yeah, I don't know, I mean the h.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Then they'll have to get the rights for Matt the
Mad magazine because I don't think that's been in publication
since two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, I know, and I mean I wouldn't have guessed that.
Who knows when the last time it was? What is
tie ty Gibbs's Oh no, ty Gibbs is running Saya
lt L Freight, So I don't know what color that car?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh, that'll be red.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
And then ty Dylan is back in the Sea best car.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
That's it's just kind of like off white, like kind
of weird with red in it. Yeah, yeah, interesting, Well
they screwed that up. They should have done that let's
see here standings. Chase Chase Elliott is now the point leader.
He's caught William Byron. Everybody, wow, took a sixteen run
away with this. I know, yeah he was a big

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at one point, but no Elliotts chased him down. He's
up by sixteen over Byron. Kyle Larson is thirty's thirty
eight points out. Denny Hamlin despite four wins, is in fourth.
He's thirty nine points back, and then Tyler Reddick is fifth.
He's out by sixty two points. The rest of the
top ten the Killer bees Man Bell blaming Briscoe, Bayman

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and Busher.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Below.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Then it gets very interesting because we still have three
drivers outside the top sixteen with a win I believe, well,
definitely SVG and Boss twenty Centric and then Josh Barry Yep, yep, yep.
Those are the three, and so that means that the
cut line remains at thirteenth, which is still Bubba Wallace.

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He's got a little bit more of a lead now.
Last week I think it was single digits over Ryan Priest.
Now he's got a sixteen point lead over Ryan Pries.
He's twenty eight behind Chris Busher, who's in tenth, but
that's the next point driver. So there's two winning drivers
I think Joey Logano and somebody else in between, Bubba
Wallace and Ryan Pries. But even though there are two

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drivers between them, they're only separated by twenty eight points.
So I mean that makes things interesting, especially since Hamlin
is a repeat winner. So we stay at twelve winners
now in twenty one races, so five to go before
the playoffs, we still could theoretically have sixteen winners, but
that's very, very doubtful.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah no, I don't see it. Yeah, don't see that happening.
With the races we got ahead of.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Us exactly, and so there is a very good chance
that we're going to be at like two three drivers
in on points, and that makes that battle between Wallace
and Price, some Buscher and whoever's below those guys are
pretty pretty close at this point.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah no, I think it's gonna start getting stacking up.
And as we get desperate and desperate, I'm sure you're
gonna see a lot more guys take chances, especially when
they know, especially just outside the top sixteen, take a
little bit more chance here and there. But we will,
we will see by the way. By the end of
the year, I'm going to get you to spell Busher's
name right, Boucher, Boucher, it's you before e oh is

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it really? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh okay, all.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Right, yeah, I keep seeing that. I like, wait a minute,
how's that? Either way?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I like the way I spell it.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's fine. I think it works out well with the
boom and boom and Bucher exactly and crabs.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So, I mean, we were hoping weeks and weeks ago,
when things were really really close at the bottom of
the top sixteen, that that that type battle would continue
all the way down to Daytona. And I mean it
may it may not, but we're within striking distance of
having at least some sort of points drama as we
head into that final race, which is good.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
And I think that's that's the good part of the system.
I mean, even if it's only for one spot, it's
an ancillary thing that you can keep track of, so
long as there is a close gap between I mean,
if it's a giant gap, I mean, then then it's
kind of just pointless, right right exactly. Hopefully there is
at least a closer gap than we usually see in
these instances. So yeah, we will have to see and

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then USA network will be the the big winner and
all that. No, No, it's one.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
That would be NBC. Yeah, yeah, would be on NBC, right,
is it?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah? I think so it's the last it's the cutoff race.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yea. I would think that they will put that on NBC.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Hope. So, I mean they're not that dumb, are they they?
Well they are, yeah, they are. It is on It
is on NBC. It's a Saturday night race.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh okay, right on that. That's the that's the dumb
part of it. They're like, we got the big network,
We're going to do Saturday night when nobody watches racing.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah. So they got Indie Iowa, Watkins, Glenn Richmond, and
the Daytona to end.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
The regular interesting couple of wild cards in there with
the Glen and and then of course Daytona.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
And Iowa was an interesting one with the news that
we have gotten on the Indy car side from them,
which is what those racers are gone. No, oh wow,
they very well could be gone from Iowa because of
low attendance and oh there you go. So we'll see
how they turn out for NASCAR and see if there
are any different there if there are big NASCAR fans

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rather than open wheel fans.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Wow, well, hopefully they don't get rid of Dover because
of low attendance, because there's a possibility of.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
That wasn't the best No, no, well, I mean weather. Yeah, true,
it was pretty dog crap the entire weekend. So it
didn't realize, by the way, didn't realize that Dover is
only forty five minutes from my place. Oh really, you
have to go like across the river and then up
and like.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you have to jump across the exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mm hmmm. Pretty terrible.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
So so moving on the NASCAR news, we start with
sad news that NASCAR Hall of Famer Rex White passed
away this week nineteen sixty Cup Series champion. Now you
might think, oh, well, he's only got twenty eight wins,
because he does, but you have to compare that to
the number of starts that he had a relatively short
career two hundred and thirty three starts and twenty eight

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wins in two hundred and thirty three starts is basically
win every between eight and nine races, and that win
ratio puts him in a class with drivers like Jeff Gordon,
and Jimmy Johnson and Dale Earnhardt Senior. So he wasn't
in the Cup series very long, but he made a
big impact while he was there, and he was definitely
one of the best on track while it was out there.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean here's a guy. I mean, when
you look at that win rate, it's like, wow, unfathomable
almost and probably in that era, and then everybody else
comes along it's like, oh, Okay, now this is light work,
but it's still I mean, the fact that he was
able to get in, get out and then you know,
still win a championship in that time while getting the
win rate that he did, I mean pretty phenomenal. And yeah,
it's the Hall of Famer so rightfully.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
So yeah, And just to put it in comparison, I mean,
everybody was talking about Dennie Hamlin with his win total.
I don't have his stats in front of me, but
I would guess that he's probably in the one win
like say, maybe every eleven to twelve races, which actually
would put him in company with somebody like Kyle Busch.
And we all know that Kyle Busch wins a lot
of stuff. Now we're just talking Cup, not talking Exfinity

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when it comes to Kyle Busch, and so, yeah, Rex
White was way better than even those rates. And those
are pretty impressive rates to begin with.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh absolutely, I mean you got to you gotta be like, oh,
that's pretty dang. But again NASCAR does not flaunt that,
which shockingly enough, why they really should.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
So then, like I mentioned a moment ago, the big story,
the really big story as we get to Indy, it's
not the fact that they're racing on the Oval again
for the second time since shutting down the road course
and that people are gonna kiss the bricks and really
mean it. The real story the NASCAR in Season Challenge finale.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know what when when this thing started, I you know,
I was I was a guest on a show it's
called Reve Reven the Engines, and there said, hey, man,
what do you think about this in season tournament? I said,
what are you talking about? And then they gave me
a rundown about it because I had completely forgotten, like, oh, yeah,
I know that. I'm like listen, I'm looking for a

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tie to win exactly tie and like, yeah, listen, you
got ties. You got ties for days. It's like it's
like your dad's closet ties days, yep. And I predicted
I rightfully predicted this seventeen weeks ago. When when they're like, hey,
you want to come on, I'm like, I don't know

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who you are. You know what, I could have just
called my insurance agency and just told them that I
thought these two would be in it. But still the point,
the point remains that half of your scenario. Okay, there, yes,
So I mean you got that go. You gotta feel
good about that.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I mean the ties, the ties in general, So I mean,
we had a seventy five percent chance of having tie on.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Tie action, but the lowest tie the oh well that's right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, I said that I wanted it to be either
was it Ty Dylan or Zane sat Smith?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Saint Smith? Yeah, yeah, we're and we're down there. So
I'm kind of torn on this because it's the sixteenth
place driver in the standings, which is Ty Gibbs versus
the thirtieth place driver in the standings, Tie Dylan, racing
for a million dollars. Here's why I'm torn about this
because because after the race at Dover, they had Tie
Dylan on the post race show and they're trying to

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do it like like Amazon Prime, which kudos to Tant
for that. And he was like genuinely, he was like,
you know what, I like so appreciate this opportunity. You know,
I know what it's like to not be in the
Cup Series. I was out of the Cup Series for
two years. I get this opportunity, so to be able

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to come back and do this for my team and
get them the chance of being able to, you know,
compete in this tournament, make it to the final, to
get me the chance competing in this tournament, make it
to the final, like it just means a lot to me.
And I was like, you know what, that's a really
nice sentiment, Like he is he is recognizing that, hey,
I'm not great, and because I'm not great, I didn't

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get I lost my opportunity, and now I got another opportunity.
I'm trying to make the best of it, right, even
though I'm in a poop car and I'm not a
very good driver. So on one hand, I'm like, oh man,
starting to feel sentimental, like like ty Dylan like really
means it right. But on the other hand, I'm like,
no one nobody cares about ty Dellan or Ti Gibbs
Like this is pointless, Like they're gonna make it, try

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to make a big deal about it. But you're at
the brickyard. That's way bigger than Tydylan versus Ty Gibbs.
Somebody's gonna win that race. It's not gonna be one
of those guys. Oh and by the way, speaking of
winning that race, NASCAR dot Com, I popped over to
NASCAR dot com before we start to the show. There's
like a little Power Rankings saying they got tdd Dyllon
like on a scooter at what appears to be Pocono.

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Maybe I don't know, it's some track. He's on a
scooter and the subtitle is is Todd Gibbs due for
his first or is Todd Gibbs du for first win
and in season challenge crowned Indie. I can answer that
for you, Nascar. No, no, no, he's not due for
his first win at Indy. It's not gonna happen. Sorry,
my wining and season challenge, but he's not gonna win

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the race.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Listen, man, it's it's interesting you bring up the whole
point about his post race interview. Yeah, and it does
tug at the heartstrings. When you look at it, you know,
both these competitors, I.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Mean, you know, even though it proves Richard Petty's point
like that he give him crap about at the end
of the Fox Run where he was like, dude, these
guys are fighting for their life back there in twentieth
and that's Tyd Dylan's life is fighting for his life
back there in twenties. So I can appreciate that. But yes, continue,
it's it's great.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
These are stories of two NEPO grand kids who never
never once got a chance or anything handed to them.
They built up their skills and did not rely on
who they knew in their family very good to get
these chances, and it's you know, it's an all American
story when you look at it, it's the fabric of America.

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When two young, blonde, white numbers car drivers who have
powerful grandparents in the industry are able to get this
paddle for a million dollars at Indianapolis, you couldn't script
a better underdog story than that.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh my god, you even think about that. I didn't
even think about that. On both sides of the equation
are exactly the same evings scenario.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's the same damn thing.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh gosh. Oh okay, I take back what I said.
Nobody gives enough about this, and now I don't care
either anymore. Any any s I had to give it
went out the window right there.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
You got all emotional over Richard's second grandson being out
of racing for a bit and still somehow being able
to get by.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
That. Oh my gosh. Oh man, yeah, that's a that's
quite the point.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Good point, sustained, point taken, objection, objection sustained.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Counselor he continue man, Man, Oh wow, yeah, Well one
of those two is going to get what they so
desperately wishes, some money to keep them in racing, some
more money. Oh my gosh. How how much of a
crash a burn was this whole thing? Man?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
They didn't get in promotion, Like, I mean, there's one thing.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
There wasn't even the opportunity it was ft after Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, I mean, it's well, it's not even the it's
it's the terribleness, the terrible planning of NASCAR not shifting
the idea of everything and promoting it even more. Even
on their own cycles. They didn't promote it all that much.
After the first week. They kind of just gave up
because none of the name drivers are in. And this
is again kind of speaks to Richard Petty's point, where

(24:28):
you know, they don't care about the people in the back,
and they didn't care enough about them after all the
big names left, like they put the brackets up and
tried for a week and they're just like, screw it,
no one cares. We're not getting the engagement we want
because everything's about clicks and likes and everything. So they
just gave up one. And if they give up one,
then why should anybody be invested in it if they're
not going to invest it in themselves. It was terrible idea.

(24:50):
I mean, I guess, I guess it's fine for a
million dollars for these guys, But at the same time,
I mean, who needs that money, Like it's for the drivers?
Who I mean, even even if all the big names
were in it, Kyle Larson need another big payday? Does
Denny Hamlin need another big payday? No? I mean it's not,
it's it's not the I would rather have the Noble

(25:11):
five situation come back then we or what the Exfinity
has where it's dash for cash than a in season tournament.
Because by and large, I mean Dash for Cash is
just basically an in season tournament but different select races. Right,
But if you bring back that that that adds a
little intrigue for it. Maybe it gets a little more
cash in your pocket for tracks that want to bid on.

(25:33):
You know, I want to be the Dash for Cash one,
so I want to get people in here and have
them do that. But to do it in a tournament
style I think turns it off because it's like, wow,
if we have an upset one weekend, then no one
probably cares the next couple of weekends about it. And
we see that in play right now.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right, And you know, the the other really good point
about it. I can't remember I was gonna say, because
I agree with what you were saying, but there was
something else that I was thinking when it comes to
the structure of this. Well, actually no, I do remember
what I was gonna say. So back to your original

(26:08):
point when you start first started off there of you
know Ty Dillon, you know is already in the sport
or his grandfather is rich and in the sport as
a team. Ty Gibbs, same thing. They don't need money,
and then the top drivers don't need money, and that
is where a lot of the allure of things like
the All Star Race, like the Bush Clash and then

(26:30):
something like this and the Noble Five for that matter.
Back in the day, it made a difference because these
guys were making a ton of money, and so they've
got to if they want us to pay attention and
if they want the drivers to really care about this,
Like Kyle Laris isn't going around getting all pissed off
because he's not in the tournament anymore. I haven't heard
Denny Hamlin's podcast this week, but my guess is he's

(26:52):
probably talking about the fact that he won, not you know,
crying about the fact that he's not in this tournament,
because they don't need money anymore, so they need too
if they want the drivers to care about it. And
because of that, they're fans to care about it because
everybody's talking about it. They have to put something else
at stake that makes a difference to the drivers because

(27:14):
a million bucks, where back in the day made a
huge difference, now doesn't make any to your point, I.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Mean, it's it's one of those things of where and
I think you see this in a lot of sports
when it comes to gimmicks like this, like how do
you how do you make the players passion about it? Yeah,
because I mean money right now, especially in pro sports
in general, and good for the drivers and players and
athletes and all that forgetting that money now, but it
doesn't compel them as it did back in the seventies, eighties,

(27:43):
nineties that you know, oh, an extra million dollars you know,
that's bookoo bucks. I mean you can't. You can't get
most real estate for like that anymore. I mean, it's
it's insane. The you know, a million bucks doesn't take
you as far in twenty twenty five as it did
in nineteen ninety five, So you have to add a
different element to it on top of the money and

(28:04):
on top of everything else. I mean, I don't know
what you can do and what NASCAR can do structure
wise to make something like this work out a lot better.
But I mean again, it's something they invested in for
two weeks leading up to it, right and one week
into it and that was it, and then they just

(28:25):
gave up. And you can't expect the fan base to
invest in it, or your TV partners to invest in
And if you, as the sanctioning body. You're not going
to invest in it from the start exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'll ask you when we get to India this week,
which one of those drivers do you think is gonna
win the.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Big that's yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Moving on NASCAR lawsuit update. This is super super interesting
and NASCAR kind of snuck this in on Monday and
I was like, whoa, whoa wait what, So here's the thing.
Denny Hamlin said that he Denni Hamlin last week said
that they were going to refile the injunction and then

(29:06):
ask for irrestraining order to try and prevent NASCAR from
moving the charters around under al from underneath them. That
was denied. He was asked about it in the press room,
and I thought this was very interesting. When I got
the email from Dover saying who was going to be
in the interview room and Denny Hamlin was there, I
was like, WHOA, wait a minute, guys, this could be
very very interesting. Well, Denny, Denny said stuff without saying stuff, right,

(29:32):
So he wouldn't comment directly on losing the injunction hearing.
He wouldn't comment directly on being an open team other
than the fact that they're going to race, and he
really wouldn't comment in the lawsuit at all, which was
weird because I saw one headline and this is admittedly
from a site that is all clickbait. I mean, they
have racing news in all kinds of different divisions, but

(29:53):
it is so clickbaity, and they were trying to make
it seem like there was some like you know, structural
falling apart at twenty three eleven because Tyler Reddick said
no comment and Denny Hamlin said no comment. No, that
was what they were told to do, Like Denny said,
everybody involved, don't comment on this right. The only thing
that Denny did say, which was kind of like a
like a kind of come out swinging type of move,

(30:16):
is he said when he was asked bout he said, quote,
if you want answers, if you want to understand all
of why this is happening, come December first, which is
the first date of the actual AMATE Trust hearing. He said,
you'll get all the answers you're looking for and all
will be exposed. And then on top of that, a
follow up question was, hey, you know, are you second
guests saying filing this lawsuit because now you have to

(30:37):
run an open team, and Denny was like, not a chance.
And then I think you reiterated you'll see on December first,
and I'm like, wow, what's going to happen on December first?
What they obviously feel like to have something. I don't
know if they do, but they feel like they have something.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, it's almost but they probably don't.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Every time they think they have something, they just fall
fall in their ass.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
True. Yeah, once they got this injunction, they didn't think
they were gonna lose their you know, their charter, and
then they ended up losing their charter.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah. I think I think it's smart of him taking
a lessons more approach when addressing this, because it's one
of those situations where, you know, it seems the more
they say or the more they're they're you know, cowboy
about it in terms of just being very outward about
what they say, and the less it's more in keeping

(31:27):
it sneaky and everything like that a lot better I
think for business in general than it is, you know,
just being boisterous about it as it were.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah. So here's where it gets really interesting though, because
obviously twenty three eleven FM, they lost their charters. Denny's like,
you know, I'm kind of trying to give him a
little tiny knocking the chin, saying you're gonna find out
we got some stuff, but you're gonna have to wait
to see it. And then NASCAR responds on Monday by
sneaking this rule change in and I don't know what

(31:57):
to think about it. First, I'll tell you the rule changes.
The rule change is and this is kind of part
of this kind of supports FRM in twenty three eleven's case,
because NASCAR can just kind of change rules without asking anybody,
and nobody can say anything about it, right, And that's
what they did here. But in this instance, even though

(32:17):
I think it gives twenty three eleven and eno fr
more ammunition, the rule change helps them a lot. So
what NASCAR said is that they reserve the right now
to limit the entry list, not the actual field, but
the entry list to forty cars for any race of
the year if they choose. So, if forty one cars

(32:39):
were to show up this weekend at Indy, NASCAR has
it within their discretion now to say, you know what,
I think we're only going to do forty, not forty one.
We're not going to let that last one go out
there and even attempt to qualify. And if they do that,
then the cars that are allowed to qualify that will
be determined based on owner points. And so in just

(33:02):
about well no, not in just about in any instance
where they would implement that rule, it's gonna guarantee that
twenty three eleven and the fire mayor in the race
because they've got more owner points than any other team
that doesn't have a charter that could show up. And
now remember they limit the field to forty, but there
are right now only what thirty charters, not thirty six.

(33:25):
The second thing that they announced at the same time
is they changed the qualifying eligibility rules, like the rules
four qualifying, because before if open teams showed up, they'll
went out on track and they laid down a lap
time and if you were the forty first driver in
on the timesheet, you were out right. That was it,

(33:45):
that you were done, You go home. Now what they're
saying is that up to four spots will be awarded
on speed alone, and then up to six spots will
be set based on owner points. And so what that
means is we have thirty charters Let's say forty one
teams show up and then you know, Tyler Redick makes

(34:10):
a mistake, he runs into the wall and qualifying and
so he's got the lowest time, so he would normally
have to go home. But under this new role, they
say no, no, six spots are going to be set
purely on owner points, which guarantees that Tyler Redick, with
his slowest time, it's going to be in the race.
Then the remaining four slots from thirty seven to forty
are going to be set on speed. And so now

(34:32):
the car that was thirty there was fortyeth fastest in
speed now gets bumped down to forty one. They go home.
So again it's the same net effect is that they're
guaranteeing that twenty three to eleven or motor sports are
going to make every race.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
The one thing that they don't get, of course, is
the charter money. But they are basically, according to these
rule changes, they are now charter teams with the exception
of the money, which, of course we all know NASCAR
really wants to keep their money. But they do this
after they won a major decision against those teams, and

(35:11):
when they're still gonna hash out this whole thing in court,
and it makes me wonder what NASCAR's game is here,
because I feel like there's a game behind it. I
feel like there's a distinct reason for them doing this,
and I don't know if it's purely for optics, right,
because they don't want the headlines to say that, you know,

(35:31):
Michael Jordan's team their cars didn't make the race because
there was a mistake in qualifying, or that Tyler Reddick,
who right now is the highest points driver of any
of those cars you know, isn't going to be in
a race because of NASCAR. I don't know if that's
the thing, or if there's some sort of legal reason,

(35:53):
like they feel like it helps their case by saying, look,
we're we're accommodating teams even if they don't have charters,
so we're not a monopoly. I don't know which it is,
and it could be part of both, but I feel
like NASCAR doesn't do things to be kind. I feel
like NASCAR does things because they've got an endgame in
mind that just don't know what the endgame is.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Well, just to make sure that the teams can be
like no, like you you know, because of this rule
because we didn't have a charter, we didn't get in.
I don't think it has anything. It's still going to
reveal their monopoly because it is only stock car business
in town. I think it just shows them that they're
not being unfairly treated. I suppose, and stuff like that,
though you're kind of screwing over other teams and things

(36:33):
like that make it, you know, all inclusive. So I
mean it's that opens up a whole other can of worms.
But by and large, I mean this weekend in the
Indie weekend, usually a big weekend, we're one car short
of a full field, so I mean you're not going
to see a lot of this kind of take effect.
I think it just maybe as a safety net just
in case. But I mean it's definitely for optics. I

(36:56):
think it's definitely in They probably were told by like
their legal advisor when they got stripped of these charters,
are like, hey, we're gonna find a way to make
it right so they don't get in there, because then
they can use that against us, and then we would
be really screwed. So you know, I think I think
it's optics to an extent and just making sure that
everything is on the up and up, so a judge

(37:17):
can't say, why did you do that? Well, you took
it away and now they can't do it, and now
the guy's leaving because of that.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, yeah, because I mean they think about what kind
of ammunition twenty three eleven would have think about. Last year,
Tyler Reddick wins the regular season championship, makes it to
the Final four, makes it the Championship four. Sorry, imagine
if he and he's, like I said, he's gonna make
the playoffs this year. It seems like he's going to.
And if he does it makes it the Championship four again,
and then he wrecks it qualifying and there happened to

(37:43):
be forty one cars and then he would be the
one to go home Like that would be insane. And
so that would obviously be something that twenty three eleven
can bring up in court. And so they're probably I
think you're right. I think in the end they're just
trying to prevent that kind of scenario as opposed to
just simply thinking about I think they're definitely thinking about
the legal component to this as well.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, you know, you have to at this point, you
have to think of the legal component. I mean, everything
is going to be under a microscope, especially now as
we get more and more decisions taken through and as
we get closer to that December one date. I mean,
we're going to see a lot more things get strapped
down in this one.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, all right, So let's move on. Chicago street course done.
San Diego almost set to be announced Father's Day weekend
at the Naval Air Station North Island in Coronado's which
should be a great setting. Right. So over there, like
where they're going to run, it is probably more of
an industrialish type of area, but it doesn't matter because
you know, they've got space to set up and then

(38:42):
the fans that do come and sit in the grand
stands are going to have this beautiful view across the
harbor and you know San Diego off in the distance.
It's going to look great on TV. What do you
think of Chicago being done? What do you think of
San Diego taking their place?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think I think it's been I mean Chicago was
just kind of a from the start, and it didn't
have great vibes to it. Uh, it was a great setting.
I think in the grand scheme of things you had
you have three races. You have one guy who kind
of conquered it from the start and won or twice.
The weather didn't cooperate either week or all three years.
It was a bit of a cluster truck in terms

(39:18):
of just NASCAR drivers not knowing how to navigate a
street course and not knowing the boundary that there are
actual boundaries. I think I'm okay with it being done.
I think I think, you know, you're not going to
hear a lot of Chicago whites or Chicagoans be too
sad over it, especially given the date. But at the

(39:39):
same time, it's just like, man, it was, it was
a cool race, it was a good thing. It was.
It was a trendsetter for what we're seeing now and
kind of walk so San Diego and other places could
possibly run.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I'm not surprised by it, and I think that it's
the right move. I mean, we've seen this with the
Bristol Dirt Race. We've seen it with the Coliseum. I mean,
NASCAR's thing in the past has been to beat the
dead horse. Here, they're at least they're overstaying. They're welcome
in each instance, but only by one year. Right, at
least they're they're getting the hint eventually and then moving on,

(40:13):
and that's what they're doing here. The San Diego thing
boggles my mind, Like I just don't know. I think
it's gonna look great on camera, just like you said
with Chicago, did it looked great on camera? I just
don't know from a fan perspective, how that's gonna work,
because maybe maybe there are parts of San Diego or

(40:34):
suburbs and things I don't know about. But I mean,
I just don't see like the people in San Diego
being like, oh my gosh, we finally got our NASCAR race.
Let's all like pay a couple hundred bucks a ticket
back to joint. I just don't see that happening. Maybe
it will, though, maybe it will.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, I mean I think you move the traveling circus
around and people are going to show up to that
circus in that local area. Yeah, at least for that year. Yeah,
but again you can't you can't oversaturated or else people
are not gonna I mean two years. I think, you know,
first year people will get it. In the second year,
the chickets will be a little bit cheaper, and people
who didn't get the chance the first year because it
was so expensive, get the opportunity to do it a

(41:12):
second year. So I mean, but again, if you start
oversaturating with more street courses or do two street courses
a year, that's when I think you get you get
a little bit dicey on this one. So like when
you know, saying the Chicago could be back in the
mix for twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen beyond. I mean
it's just like, well, where does San Diego go or
do other places that may want to host this go.

(41:33):
I mean, you it's like the All Star Race or
the final race of the year. Why not move things
around rather than have it as one central help.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Right, Yeah, they can't do two world course races. I
know NASCAR probably thinks they can, but they three course
street course racist Sorry they could. I mean that would
just be too many. It's the gimmick will be gone
gone too far at that point.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, Yeah, at that point, it's just like okay, enough.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
So, I mean I'm glad they're move it. We'll see
how it works out in San Diego. I'm not overly
optimistic about it crowd wise, but I mean maybe they'll
put on a good show. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, again, it's on at it's on a holiday weekend,
Father's Day weekend, so I mean it's not even a holiday,
it's just just fathers Yeah, just Father's Day.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
And then what's the story with this Larry Mack thing
with driver talking about the old points system.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
So apparently during the serious on Track on Tuesday today
when we're recording this is, Larry Mack did a hit
with Danielle Trotta. I guess, I don't know if he's
on the show full time on this On Track episode,
he looks like he might be. But in any case,
there was a segment where daniel Trotta is like, these
all these driver committees and things like that, they're saying that,

(42:48):
you know, one driver is very meal screaming that he
wants to back the old point system like in the
Winston Cup, and Larry Mack is like, well, I bet
it's someone who's never won a championship in Trotta confirmed that,
and he's like, yep, you know, people don't win a championship.
They're kind of vocal in this. And people thought it
was Mark Martin because Mark Martin has been very outspoken
about the new point system and the playoff system and

(43:09):
things of that. Ilk. When called out on it, Larry
MCA said, it's not true. He said, Mark Martin's my hero.
I'm proud to call him a friend. We listen closely.
It's a driver that is active and on the driver's council.
I find it hard to believe that you come up
with this stuff all the time. However, when called out
upon Daniel trottah tagged Mark Mark Martin was tagged in
this clip and she didn't realize that it wasn't him

(43:31):
saying it because she's not that good.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Reading.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Trying to mention on the Twitter, she said, Mark, you
know I love you, but what we got is a
whole lot. What we got is a whole lot better
than what we used to. We need a playoff, we
need eliminations, we need to a reward winning inconsistency. This
format does it all and is highly entertaining. There's a
lot of lot of reports. I refuted on that one.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
She threw it out on Mark Martin and he didn't
even say it.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
No, he didn't say it that people were just saying hey,
people were just saying hey. He Actually it was Mark
Martin retweeting retweeting something from the IRAQ back in nineteen ninety,
between ninety eight and two thousand and he wrote Great Memories.
And then some jimoke said to hey, Mark and serious XM.

(44:25):
They threw under the bus and then they threw they
threw the clip up there and everything like that. And
someone said, Daniel Trotta said let's keep him moving forward,
not backward. And then she's like, hey, Mark, no, but
seriously though, and Mark didn't even say, god damn thing.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Mark Martin has been very vocal in the past about
this the point system not being the greatest ever. It's not.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
And I think we all know who said it. It
was Denny Ellen.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean well, and Mark
Martin spoke on it like last month to Kenny Wallace
saying that, you know, Joey Logano was twentyeth in points
last year and somehow won the title.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing, or he was actually
he was twelve, but say the same deal, saying the
same thing, and uh and yeah at the time, I mean,
I'll say the same thing I said at the time.
They don't want the twelfth place driver getting, you know,
winning the championship. Don't put twelve driver drivers in the
championship and they shouldn't. They shouldn't be Marcus right about that.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, Yeah, definitely, definitely one of those things where it's
just a situation where the system is broken and it
needs to be fixed, but the problem is there is
no right rate to fix this. You can't put the
toothpaste back into two unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, even if they said, all right, what we're gonna
do is we're gonna cut down the playoffs quite a
bit and have like two rounds, right like just do
you know, round of around, round of eight, and then
a round of four, you still end up with that
situation where you could have teammates helping other drivers, which
is part of the negative of this stupid system to

(45:56):
begin with. And I mean, yeah, you're limiting that you're
having two cuts, like the cut to eight and then
the cut to four at that point. But even if
you just went like a straight up like we're gonna
race all the way until the final race of the
year and then the final four are gonna are gonna
hash shut out, even then, I mean you could have
a teammate helping the teammate, because chances are those drivers

(46:17):
that are gonna be in the top four are gonna
be drivers on big teams with a lod of teammates,
you know, and so and so so. Not only do
you have like like the the stupidity of somebody who
maybe didn't have the stats during the year to justify
championship winning a championship, but you still have that that
that continual threat of the system being manipulated from within

(46:40):
because guys have teammates.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
You NASCAR loves the tournament. Yeah right, all right, so
NASCAR loves the tournament.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Can you imagine that they did the playoffs the way
they just did this freaking it season tournament and it
was Ty Gibbs versus Ti Dellen for having.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Championship that like the sport would close. But no, here,
you know what they do. You know what they do
in minor league baseball, right, They take segment seasons and
the winner of first half of a season get gets
into the final regardless of what they do in the

(47:17):
second half, and the second half champion takes some one
and that's your championship series.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
They could do something like that and Ascar, they could
divide it up into like four segments.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Here's my pitch, Sharks, I want fifteen million dollars for
two of this idea, break it up into eight races.
Top two drivers to have the most points in those
races in those eight races, advance to the final Okay,

(47:48):
then the final four races you have eight guys driving
just balls to the wall for a championship straight up,
no playoff points, no nothing, it's just straight up points.
It's how the point system works there. So if you
win a segment you get you get an extra point
for that. So you have you have an eight drivers
and a four week sprint.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Interesting too, you know, at that point you start to
at least try to factor in the idea of consistency again,
which is something that's completely missing in the current system.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
And a wind doesn't get you in automatically, and a.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Wind doesn't get you in automatically, right, so you have
to both be good and you have to be consistent too, exactly.
I don't dislike it.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
It's it's a way to keep a tournament going. It's
a way to make every part of the season worthwhile.
It's you know, because after you know, after eight races,
race nine, boom, whole new season again. Right, And if
and if a guy in the top two from the
previous thing is already is the top two to the
next one. Then you just narrow it down so the
third place guy gets it right and do it like that.

(48:54):
So yeah, I mean, it's easy to fix and it
brings all the gimmicky elements together.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Which they love.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
It's love, but they're never gonna do because podcasters are
talking about it and they don't care. Oh man, she talks,
She talks about it and then tags the wrong person.
It's like, not even not even.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go, go ahead, go after one
of the most beloved figures is ever in the sport,
just because I can't read.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
And what's crazy is like it I don't think anyone
tagged her.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh my gosh. She just decided I'm gonna chime in
and start bitching about this.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
She's like, I'm looking, where are they gonna talk where
are they gonna talk about? All right? Cool, and I'll
take a look at that, or someone wantst have tagged
the comment or whatever, and she had to respond to it.
The point is this, it's not better than what we had.
I mean, is it better because now, like the last
few races mean something? Sure, I mean it kind of
sucks when you wrap up a championship like the race

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of or you just have to start. But at the
same time, it's like the way the points, the points
themselves are structured. It's not a hundred and eighty points
for a victory anymore. I mean, I think that you
can go back to the old style points system with
the with the new points distribution and still have you know,
still be fine. I mean we're looking at it right
now in the point standing you can still be fine.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
So I mean, I don't know, I don't know what.
But again, these are people in NASCAR's payroll. These are
people who are going to tow the company line and
say the playoffs are great. Nothing to see here, it's
the big it's the naked gun thing, Leslie Nielsen in
front of the fireworks thing. Everything's fine. I feel he's

(50:42):
reminiscing about Iraq and they just be like, hey man,
they're talking about you, And it's like, but it's not
even an active what so mad Jesus.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, we all know it's Anny because he's the only
one who spend there multiple times. Has it won.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, we'll no. Statistically, he'd be an either, like he
would have won.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
That's the thing is, you'd have to go back and
look and see, you know, about how things would have
worked out to try to get a better idea of
who it might be that was saying things like that
overall would be more consistent than him. I know that
doesn't have a championship, you know, I can't think of
who it might be either. I would have to be
and it's been around long enough to even understand what

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the old system was and how it worked. Yeah, unless
it was like Dale Junior. But he's not really active
per se.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
He's not the Cup Series either.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I don't think he's on the Driver's council either.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
He's Oh that's right, Yeah, I know he's a driver's
counselor though yeah, Burton Burton. Still I think it's like
a like a driver's council emeritus type of guy.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
He might have said, might be Yeah he didn't win
the championship.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
He could have said some stuff like that, Yeah, what
do we got? What have we got? A sponsorship? I
got sponsorship stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, sponsorships. Full full disclosure. Folks were doing this a
couple of days early because someone decided to dust off
their jacket and decided to open the ship up and
just go wind milling in a pit.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I am, I'm gonna be in the middle of the pit.
It's gonna be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
So if it's just if you, if it's somehow I
find a way to get the launch codes and it's
just me next week, then you know what happened. Wilson
decided to do a couple of windmills and spin kicks
and someone gotta sweet Jim music. Great the faith I
have been.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I've been in a pit within the last year multiple times,
so it was pit beef, you fool, exactly. But the
thing the problem here is I'm getting too old for
this crap, so I can only do it so many
more times.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Your your aarp is about to kick any brother.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
And the opportunity presented itself at the last second, so
I went ahead and said, yes.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Well, before we get before we get the sponsored Yeah,
have you seen the build out for the Speedway Classic. No,
they're getting it together. It's August second. I think it
is okay, So they got the Diamond kind of set
up pretty much. They're putting the tempt stands and everything
around the actual field itself.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Saw those uniform things that they rolled out.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, the uniforms, they look all right terrible. I like,
I like Cincinnati's better than I like Atlantis.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, the flame design is just kind of weird. Yeah,
I like the checker flags a little bit more, but
even still, I mean, it looks like the field, it
looks like a baseball It looks like a minor league
stadium with the way it's or sorry, spring even a
spring training stadium with filled out and then you have
at least in the grand stands behind the plate, and
then of course the giantness that is Bristol in general.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, somebody's gonna be sitting a long way away, I think.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, yea deep center is gonna be crazy. They found
a way to hide. The scoreboard is going to be
just off of the right field line or the third
base line. Really, it's going to be interesting to see
who hits that with a foul ball.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
What it looks like. Here is this a picture? Is
this a rendering?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's a video. It's a video. It's on Sterno's Adam Stern's.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I'm on there, I'm on the Bristol website. And they've
got some field renderings.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
So, yeah, Adam Stern, there's a video on his thing
from from Brett Brett McCormick, who's there look at it.
So here's a video of it and has a multiple
in like as it's happening, like he's wearing a yellow
vest of people, don't hit him with a wrecking ball,
right right, right, So it's pretty pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Oh and I forgot about the whole Tim mccrawl, Tim
McGraw plus Pitbull thing.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah. Yeah, No, they're gonna do the Tim mcgral and
Nelly classic. They're going to remake that. It's gonna be great, amazing.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I forgot about that song it did existing Should we
find out how much premium seating costs?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Oh? We should do?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
You want to start with the okay, so, man, they
have a lot. I think we have to look at
the night teen sixty one luxury suite overlooking first Baseline,
Brave side. This is an all inclusive package everybody, ummm.
And you get a sweet visit and a photo opportunity
with the Cincinnati Reds mascot.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
M oh, mister Red. Hold on, mister Red though it.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Is mister Red. Yeah, you're right about that, all right.
So I'm clicking on the old Oh, it takes you
to the ticketmaster. So this is without fears, everybody, without fees.
It's loading, it's loading. Ticketmaster takes forever. Um, dude, do
do do?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Okay, all right, So the Luxury nineteen sixty one suite
maximum seat limit is eight. Do you want to take
a guess? And I'll say it's not as bad as
I thought it might be. You get here's what you get.
You get reserve theater style seating and a climate controlled
skybox suite one, premium parking pass, unmatched dining experience with

(56:00):
chef attended action stations, and all you care to drink
beverage service including Coca Cola, a variety of domestic and
craft beers, table wines, and a full selection of spirits.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Twelve hundred that's close, okay, okay, but.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Four fees eight ninety four twenty five.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Probably after fez probably around that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
You probably around that, which which I didn't think, I mean,
all things considered, anything that was terrible. I mean, I owe,
there's a bigger wine. Wait, what's this medallion thing?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh, well that's a bigger thing.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Oh that's camping. That's camping. Medallion camping. Okay, they've got
so many different ticket packages.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Here, man, dude, there is one I'm looking on seat
geek and they have a ticket for forty three dollars.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Okay, you're behind home plate in the upper deck of
the racing venue.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Oh my gosh, bring a telescope, dude, Dude.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
You're gonna have to bring it. Tele's not only get
to most, but bring one of those radio gimmicks. Hope
you pick up a thing there dead center there's there's
a ticket dead center field.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
No way, that's you definitely need.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh yeah, so dead center field for their fourth throw
from the top. It looks like, uh, for seventy six bucks.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Seventy six dollars is sent all the way out there.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, but even better one is for forty three dollars.
Another forty three dollars. You're well beyond the foul territory
and third near the stage where they're going to perform.
You're probably gonna be blocked by the jumbo tron too.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Oh no, there is add ons to get you close
to the stage for the concert. Those I can't tell
you what those costs because they're all sold out. Sure, yeah,
do you think that it was purposeful that the one
Grand Standard are not selling because it's just too far
away from everything happens to be the Daryl Waltrip stand.

(58:02):
Yeah yeah, I mean they could have angled the field
the other way and sold a ship ton of Darrel
Waltrip tickets, but they could. I think they're trying to
tell them f off.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
You're just saying, listen, we're done with you. Yeah, you
left this with Mike Joy.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
So oh wow, there's two sets of eight hundred dollars suites.
Apparently according to this like map, this color coded map
mm infield infield seats could potentially be eight hundred dollars.
And then of course you've got your uh you know,
you got your fancy suites eight hundred dollars. A pop

(58:37):
y man, there you go.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
There's a Speedway Classic buyer's guide on their website and
download the pdf. What are we buying with our It's
presented by Build Summarines everybody, and then it's got lots
of renderings inside, like what it's like to sit near
at the stadium. They don't really tell you so much
what it's like to sit in the middle. Oh no,
they do tell you what it's like to sit in
the middle of nowhere. Wow, you're sitting in the middle

(59:04):
of nowhere for sure. Oh my gosh. Oh no, like
the rendering of sitting like out in center field, like
even even home plate is just a dot. Wow. Very interesting,
very interesting. And that wasn't even an upper deck rendering.
That was a lower deck rendering. The upper deck rendering,

(59:26):
of course, would you know have like some sort of
like chance that you would open a pack and get
like a game used jersey fragment or something, right, yeah, exactly,
some some used rubber from the track during the game.
That was that was picked up during the course. All right,

(59:48):
So sponsorships Zach Brown Band, not to be confused with
all the other zachs and country music. I think there's
like a Zach Bryan and then there's a Luke Bryan,
and there's like a Brian Gumbole and I can't remember
them all, But does Zach Brown Bean the ones with
their toes in the water and they're asking the sand
they're gonna be on the number five Coyle Larson car

(01:00:11):
not this weekend, but at Las Vegas, because apparently they're
playing something at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
The sphere that sounds right I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Think they were big enough for that, but maybe everybody
likes their sphere a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Little chicken from taking it around for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I guess, so Ted talk in the form of something
that they've termed TED Sports. It's gonna be on number
seven Justin Haley car. That's this weekend at Indy Boards.
So I guess they'll have like multiple different camera angles
of that number seven car the entire time, and every
time he cues up the radio, Justin will talk very slowly,

(01:00:44):
very deliberately.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Well, it's in incorporation with Ted's inaugural event dedicated to
the transformative Power of Sports. No, they'll partner with game Bridge,
the service co primary sponsors on the number seven car.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Oh well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
To the first It's kind of global confluence of athletes, innovators, scientists,
career creatives and change makers will convene September ninth through
eleventhly at the historic old Old National Center in downtown
Indie to Worhouse intersect with technology, culture, health and social impact.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Interesting, very interesting. We also have the Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Uh, it's a pretty cool car.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Social media sensations on the number ninety nine. Matt de
burrito car in the X series Racist Weekend at Indie.
I think I've seen it. It's yellow, right, I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Oh it's it's like old play. It's a tall yellow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Savana. How do you spell Savannah? Bananas? Matt de burrito,
Sell Matt de burrito, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Matt, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Oh my, that is very yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
And his driver's suit is mocked after the uniforms that
they wear too, So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
No yellow and blue, everybody nice? All right, I'm down
with that big banana, big angry banana on the front. Yeah,
as is customer customary. Oh oh, I'm seeing the suit too, Okay,
there we go. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, dude, they're stilling that stadium like baseball stadiums and
football stadiums. I'm stilling.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
It's the Harlem Globetrotter. So there's just globe trotters of baseball.
That's really what they are. I mean, I'm pretty sure
that when they goes to get in the car, like
a small child wearing a driver's suit, we'll just like
shove him out away and hop in the car instead.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Hey, God willing or the guy with the guy the
guy in still.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Oh yeah, the stilt Sky will come and drive the car.
They great, they better have Stilt Sky there. That would
suck if they didn't, if I'm being honest. And then
I desperately want to see this car. Diet Cherry Coke
is going to be a number seventeen car.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Yeah, it's in uh in association with Kroger. Diet Cherry
Coke will be available at Kroger exclusively. I guess in
the nineteen eighty style can. So it's got the the
old school lowercase stuff and then the dissection and a
very neon neony yellow and almost coke syrup dark color

(01:03:14):
on that car. It really it really pops. It's a
really nice looking car.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I'm looking for it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
It's another Adam Stern Uh Adam Stern Exclusive.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Schools schools waiting for the picture too load. Oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
I love the neon part of that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, it looks very fair.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I like the can. I have to find that. Yeah,
but they don't have a Kroger near me. There's got
to be like the West Coast version the Croger.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah. I don't know what the West Coast and Croger is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I'll don't worry. I'll Google, I'll find it. Yes, that
looks really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, no, that's a really nice car. So that will
run this weekend at they are Indianapolis. Awesome also, Uh,
kind of back to the news real quick. Our motors
Our Motorsports, Oh you are Motorsports has done. They're done.
They have ceased to be in the Exfinity division. Uh.
They they had let go of their driver Chris right

(01:04:10):
or they mutually part of ways with Chris. Right after Sonoma.
They were able to get somebody in the car for
they had has Gerala in the car for Dover and
then they ceased operations immediately after that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Wow bummer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
So they they had you know, different different amount of drivers.
Brett Moffatt had been there before, ty Dylan driven there before,
Andy Lally, Kyle Weatherman, all kinds of people have Tyler
Reddick Fast Pasta was in that car that was Fast
Pasta's big year last year. It was in that number

(01:04:44):
five car. Interest, So a tough break for that a
a you know a team that kind of just almost
with that JD Motorsport kind of thing where they just
field a lot of cards and have a lot of talent. Uh.
And then next thing, you know, boom. They go from
four cars, the three cars, that one car and now
they're going, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
A bummer that See, that's the type of thing that
NASCAR could be using this TV money to prevent. But
then they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah no, and well again it's Exfinity money too. So
it's like we already saw the discrepancies in terms of
winning with with the not with the X Series and
the Cup Series.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
So yeah, like they like it wouldn't like it wouldn't
be that big of a burden on NASCAR to help
keep a team like that that's competitive aloft. Yeah like
and and maybe that isn't like supporting them financially forever,
but like giving them a loan or something and then
having their team help get something coming in there in

(01:05:40):
terms of sponsorship, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah. So uh, just over this was their sixth season
and five and a half season they're done. So tough break.
All the best to those those folks who are now
looking for gigs and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
So that totally sucks, all right. So that brings us
to Indiana. The Brickyard back on the open for the
second year in a row, and uh, it'll be very
very very interesting to see what the stands look like.
I'll tell you that right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Now, it's gonna be a tough one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
They got a lot of grandstands and now the buzz
is worn't off. We're back to business as usual. So
how's that gonna work out for ticket sales? NASCAR will
probably say it's sold out this week, but we'll know
very easily if it was or wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, so we will, We will see how it goes.
I don't know, you know, I'll a reserve a reserve
any kind of judgment until I see stands to start with,
but not not not I'm not gonna I'm not in
the right frame of mind to say this is going
to be a success.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, I can't imagine they're going
to get two hundred fifty thousand people there. That's for
Dard Shore. It's just a matter of how what percentage
of that are they going to get because and that's
always been the problem with Indy when you're running the Oval,
is that when the place holds two hundred and fifty thousand,
you could have you could have like seventy five thousand
people there and you're still like a third foal, like

(01:07:13):
your two thirds empty at that point. So I mean
that that's the challenge. That's always a challenge with a
place like that. The place is that big. So yeah,
hopefully they uh NASCAR is using all their TV money
to buy tarps to cover all of the grand stands
they're not going to sell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
We got guys, we gotta still sponsor quick exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
So and how many car we said we had, we
didn't have enough cars. We didn't have the whole field
pretty nine. Yeah, so we don't have to know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So they have also started listing open car or the
site that we go to have been listening the open car.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Oh right, because uh, you know, because all the twenty
three elevens and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Yeah, So Josh Blicky, Jesse Love, Catherine Laying, Noah Gregson,
Bubba Wallace, Todd Gill and Riley Herb, Zane Smith and
Tyler Reddick are your open that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Catherine Legg is going to be running the in the
Infinity and the Cup race this weekend. Yikes, I know, right,
it's gonna be interesting for sure. Um, all right, so
we can't do Paintskin preview because it's Tuesday and we
don't have all the paint schemes. Yet I think we
both picked the Die Coke car. Yeah, I'm gonna go

(01:08:21):
Die Cherry Coke too. Ummm so that takes us to
the picks. Now, last week, you freaking one. I don't
know who won the sebath.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Though, Uh you won because Connilla finished first.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Again, that's right. I picked him to finish third.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
No, well, no, sorry, Eric Almarola finished second. Oh you
picked him the finish fourth. I picked him eleventh, So
you were a big winner. And now that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah, he's been doing good in those exfhanity races around
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Um so that takes us to I guess I have
the entire field to pick from as we get to uh, Indy,
yes you do, Oh my goodness, gracious third. Umm, I
can't remember who won last year at the Oval. Let
me look and see some guy, some some dude won
last year at the Indie OVA. Oh no, on, my
computer is so slow. Hang on, it's actually it's not

(01:09:08):
the computer in this case, particular website that's so slow. Oh.
Kyle Larson won that race last year in in Anabolis.
As Charles Barkley would say, still one of my favorite
commercials of all time? Do you remember that? One? Yea
and the final fours was Inanis and then instead of Indianapolis,
they of course went to Annapolis. And don't before you

(01:09:34):
write your letters, that was Barkley man. That was a
commercial they produced it. That wasn't me making fun of him?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
So give me in this one. I was thinking of
taking Todd Gibbs because remember they were talking about him
maybe winning the race, but I'm gonna I'm gonna curtail
my gut feeling there and instead give me mm hmmmmm,

(01:10:07):
give me Tyler Reddick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Okay when his first leader, the first open car to
win a race.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I thought, Well, I don't know, did they have the
thing all and Haley one?

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah, Haley maybe, but definitely s Fiji in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Oh that's right, definitely Fiji. Be forgetting about that guy,
ah bois Ohio. What are we doing here? So we're
doing We're doing indy new indie, indie indie. Now they
ran the road course here what two twenty two years ago?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Yeah? Last year was back to the Oval. Larsen won
and Reddick, by the way, was second.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
In that one and they only run that two years,
or they run that three years.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Two years is what I want to say here, okay,
two years in and about to click on Indianapolis here
and see what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
So yeah, yeah, so just last year was the first
year back. Last last time out before that was twenty
twenty on the Oval Kevin Harvick, of course one because
Kevin Harvic you know, in the one the last two ovals.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Yeah, god, you know what I think. I think this
is gonna be a blue Oval day. And give me
Ryan Blaney.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Okay, that's a good pick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Yeah. I don't know why he hasn't been shown a
lot of stuff, and I think he's kind of do
he kind of due to say, Hey, good guys, I'm
still here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
So what are we gonna do for uh? For side bet? No, man,
I mean we got the leg oh and and one
way or the other. Who do you think is gonna win?
The end? This kid? This doesn't need to be the
side bet because there's only two choices, and so of
one picks one, the other one's gotta pick the other one.
So we'll just say who we think is gonna win?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
The in season challenge, which of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
The ties, which is the NEPO grand kids?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Yeah, which grand kids is gonna win? Win the million bucks?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I think I think Ty Dillan deserves it more so
that means Ty Gibbs is gonna win it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Yeah, I think I think is gonna win it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Yeah. I mean it's highest finished so man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
And it's got a better car and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
So yeah, yeah, do you want to get back on
the Jesse Love train on this one?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Jesse Love?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
We did him earlier this year Bristol when you finished
thirty first.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Oh how about uh, who's gonna finish higher? Between Jesse
Love and Catherine Legg?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Mmm?

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Or we let's just pick where Jesse Love is gonna finish,
because again there's two picks, and neither one is a bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Pick, no or none. Neither one's a good pick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
One's a good pick, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Yeah, let's straight up, Jesse Love. I'll take first, And
so I dropped the I've dropped the last three not
doing great ide bets, I BET's not my game baby,
just in this race. Yeah, thirty nine. He's finished thirty first,
thirty first and twenty nine and one of them was
only the only one was a big track. Was Texas

(01:13:12):
and even that's kind of eh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
What car is loving He's in your motorsports. So they're oh,
it's back back in the Beard. Okay, they're tuned for
speed man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
God, you know what I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Thirty thirty thirty three zero. Well, Catherine legs in this race,
so we'll finish dead last. Give me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Thirty fourth, okay, limit it spread, limited spread on this one.
So anything thirty thirty one and above is me, thirty
two and below is you? Yeah, yep, yeah, that's how
it works.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Wait, I've got thirty three and thirty four, you've got
thirty and thirty one, So thirty two is a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Push, Okay, thirty two push? Yeah yeah, that math doesn't
work out. Yeah yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Right, So there we go. When it comes to the race,
the Wisman has Ryan Blaney, I've got Tyler Reddick to
win the Brickyard and for the side bet Jesse Love
in his second race of the year for Beard Motorsports,
fourth race overall. The Wisman has him finishing thirtieth. I've
got him finishing thirty fourth. If you want to find
out who wins the race, who wins the bed who
wins the side bet and whether it was any good

(01:14:26):
because you certainly won't be in the audience there, but
you might be watching a TV I have no comeback.
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Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Is it small?

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
It's small with your Shane van goat headline nice. Yeah,
I know, right, good one. If you're on social medias
and why would you be at in the Draft Show
on all these special sites and you can go there. Yeah,
that's it. That's all We've done it for Wilson. I
want to take care of yourself and someone else has been

(01:15:23):
in the draft Wilson was It's going up on the
twenty fourth. I think I.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Guess oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Twenty fourth, fourth of twenty fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Uh wait, what's Friday the twenty fifth? Twenty fifth?

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Twenty fifth?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Okay, twenty fourth. I'm I may or may not be
in the hospital at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
That's your twenty fifth you may not be in the
hospital schedule. Maybe true. Two hundred and sixth day of
the year. We're here Constantine. The first this day in
three or six is proca proclaimed the Roman emperor bias groups.
So there you go, And then they made a movie
about him. Keanu Ruse was in it. It was great. Uh.

(01:15:57):
Nine eighteen Wang Jiong comes to the King of Gray
Ello overthrowing and a coup of the previous day.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Take on me, Come on, let's do this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Oh yeah, everybody Wang Young tonight. Yeah. I don't know
what usaid to take on me?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
That was ah oh, that was ah Sorry, what was
the other word? Why there were two Wang Chung songs?

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
There was Wang you are the Wang Kuong?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Dance all days? You remember? Dance all days?

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Oh yeah, huh. City of Constantinople, that's nobody's business. But
the Turks first off, recaptured by the Nissian forces under
the command of Alexios strategy strategy Goppolists re establishing the
Byzantine Empire?

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Is that where they hope strategy from.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I'm I hope so, because if not, that's a hell
of a coincidence. No, no Strategyopolis is my father. Please
call me, call me expansive stats. Henry the second was
crowned King of France this day in fifteen forty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Nice. Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
The Dumbers War in seventeen twenty two happened between the
Maine and Massachusetts border between Republicans the the Revolutionary War.
The war's last act, the Siege of kuddor Is ended
my preliminary peace agreement to stay in seventeen eighty three.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Okay, so eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Sixty eight, the Wyoming territory is established. So there you go,
shout out Wyoming, Wyoming.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I thought that, said RFK, and then KFC. I thought
RFK had started a KFC thing. I'm like, that doesn't
go r FKFC, RFKFC, ill take all the cornc here
about Tunisian King Muhammad the eighth Alamin is replaced by

(01:18:02):
President Habib Biorghizia in Tunisia this day in nineteen fifty seven.
Oh Okay, yeah, the Soviet Mars five space probe is
launched into space to day in nineteen seventy three. The
Viking one takes the famous face of Mars photo to
stay in nineteen seventy six, where there was a rock
there that looked like a face.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Oh oh yeah, I remember that one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Yeah, just shoot it out in the ooh, here we go.
And then Wiki leaks publishes classified documents about the war
in Afghanistan in this day in twenty ten, one of
the world's are the largest leaks in US military history.
Oh wiki wow Wiki Wiki Wow Wiki Wow Wiki Wow
Wow West remember that all right? Eleven o nine, Happy

(01:18:46):
birthday to Alfonso, the First King of Portugao, Oh Dom, Alfonso,
the cap, the conqueror and the founder. You had two nicknames,
the first King of Portugao Nice. He achieved independence of
the country of Portugal and established a new kingdom, doubling
its area of portug Gal And then it got sucked

(01:19:07):
up again by Spanish. Because it's just hanging there now.
Shout out to Alfonso the First. Everybody, enjoy your weekend.
Enjoy Indie. Maybe you'll be in the crowd. Maybe you
can act like you're in the crowd and just not
watch who's to say. But until then we'll talk to
you next week at all about it. So then peace.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Thanks for listening to In the Draft with Wilson and
Waz

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