Non-Fuel-Mileage Race in Iowa. Will SVG Be Back on Top at The Glen?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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version two point zero. It is when mister Scottie was
what's happening?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
There was man, oh, you know, we're just having a time.
We're having a time for ourselves as we look at
Iowa under why yeah, why it was there?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So okay, So here's here's my thing with Iowa and
this is just me.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
This is the third race, like the third race out
of the last like four or five where they're making
a huge deal at the end about the fuel thing.
And I think this all kind of came about because
Amazon Prime did something different, right, they put the they
had the burn bar, and everybody's going nuts over the
burn bar. We could see how much fuel they're burning

(01:02):
and how much fuel they have left. And then here
we go with USA and NBC. They picked that up,
not really with the same thing because they're not like
branding it, but they they picked up on the same technology. Right,
we're gonna estimate, because that's all it is is an estimate.
There is no fuel gauge on the car. They have
to estimate how much fuel is left. And they're doing

(01:23):
that based on some you know, maths that they're doing
in the background, and so they put these up on
the screen and everybody's like, oh my gosh, just like
the burn bar. We could see that. You know. William Byron,
he's down the eight percent, he's down the six percent,
he's down to four percent. And like in our normal world,
when you get to zero percent, you run out of
gas and that's it, like your game is over. But

(01:45):
in this case, in all three cases that they made
a huge deal about the fuel maloge, Oh they're gonna
be able to make it. There was Denny Hamlin not
only did he make it, he did burnouts afterwards. Bubba Wallace,
he made it. He did burnouts afterwards. William Byron like
that bar down and they're like nothing. He makes it.
He does the burnout. Like I'm getting like a little
bit of the Boy who Cried Wolf thing going on

(02:08):
with Oh it's a fuel mile of drace now, because
they keeps saying it's a fueld mile of Drace, NASCAR
plasters it all of all, it's a fuel mileage thriller. No,
it's not because they all made it to the end.
If you're going to sell that to me, I want
to see someone run out of gas at the worst
possible moment.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah. It's one of those things where it's just like why,
And I think I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago.
Fuel mileage is a lie, Like I'm convinced that they're
saying this. The chief crew chiefs are saying this to
the drivers and everyone else so they can strategize and
see who else can run them down or try to
run him down. Everyone is not as close on fuel

(02:45):
mileage as they perceive to be in public space. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, because they were like they were on William Byron,
like every lap, oh, you got to back off, back off,
back up to him, back up to him. And I
think you're absolutely right. I don't think that there was
necessarily this, you know, the situation where he was about
to run out of fuel. But obviously the twenty four
team wants everybody else to think that they're about to

(03:10):
run out of fuel. And so if you keep like
saying your driver, oh, it's awful, it's terrible. We're not
gonna make it your three laps short, your three laps short.
But he's really got like ten laps worth of fuel
in the car. Then everybody else might think, Okay, I
don't have to like really try and get him. He's
going to run out. I just need to stay consistent
as opposed to like really digging and going after him.
I'm sure there's some of that stuff that happens. And

(03:31):
in the end, you know, TV is selling this crap
hard to us, and so you think, oh, man, somebody
could run out, somebody could run out, and then nobody does. Man,
I want to pay off.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, you can't keep getting edged like that and have
nothing come from it. But I mean, it's the crazy
thing is is that you look at the track just
in general. And I didn't see any of the broadcasts.
I don't know if the stands were packed or not.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
They were decent. They were decent, but the place isn't.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Big, So no, exactly. And that's the thing is that
they were mentioned in the Moin register was mentioning that
the you know, it holds twenty six thousand, but last
year it held forty six because they put temporary sweets
in they weren't up this year. So there, it's a
wonder if they're going to be back a lot. I mean,
the Indye cars are leaving Iowa, yeah they are, so,

(04:20):
I mean you got to wonder if the Cup Series
is going to leave. But I don't see another race
that you can give it to, another track that you
can give it to just in general, that that would,
you know, just be something.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, so I think I think they'll come back. Yeah,
I think the stands were full enough that they would
come back. It was relative, it was pretty full. But again,
you know, twenty some thousand people, they should be able
to fill that.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Up, you would think, so, I mean you would hope.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
So yeah, even NASCAR today should be able to fill
that up.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah. But it was a caution filled race, yes, the
second most cautions ever in a modern era Cup race.
They had no DNFs. Interesting and that's Steven Stump, the
NASCAR content director for Front Stretch and n m p
A Online.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
We keep seeing this too, where you get the first
stage it's not too bad or clean, second stage not
too bad or clean, and then the final stage, like
everybody just starts running into each other and it's gonna
be doubly bad this weekend at Watkins Glen.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh yeah, and shorter shorter laps too, so it's you're
definitely gonna see that take effect. But yeah, I mean
it was it was a race that that was kind
of just there. I mean, you see that. I mean
William Byron pretty much broke away with it, even though
he doesn't have too many you know, stage points to
to come through with it, but he kind of buy
and large just dominated the whole toll ordeal. Well, I mean,

(05:44):
Brad had his moments, Chase Briscoe had his moments, but
I mean William Byron just found a way too, and
and they found a way with strategy too, to get
the track track deposition they needed.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, because Laski had a really good long run car
and he was he would chase people down and I
thought we were going to get a really good ending
because he was gaining on buyer in and of course
there were the fuel concerns that they were selling to
us that were bs. But then his car just stalled out,
which was interesting that he wasn't able to do in
the final stage what he was able to do in
the first and second stage. And then the only other

(06:16):
observation for me about this race, other than the fact
that they keep running into each other, is Chase Brisco
quietly has been consistently fast the last four or five
weeks or so, and I think that might continue this weekend.
Walkin's gunn because he's really a decent road course racer.
He's just kind of been there. He hasn't, you know,

(06:37):
been well. He's even led laps too, So I was
gonna say he hasn't been like, you know, like favorite
to win, but it doesn't matter. He's been hanging out there.
I don't have his stats in front of me, but
I could pull him up and see where he's been finishing,
because it just feels to me like he's discovered something
that we hadn't seen in the past, you know, two

(07:00):
thirds of the season that have happened already. It seems
like in the past couple of races he's really been
able to step up his game. Hang let me see here,
let me pull this.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Year to do the same old dang old thing here.
So he's last four races, three second place finishes and
eighteenth and Indie and.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Of course he had to win back in Pocono that
got him into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So then had struggles at Atlanta and Chicago.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, So and he's had he's had umpteen eleven pole
awards too this year too. Yeah he has.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
On the start, he had five poles, holy crap, six,
He's hat six freaking poles this year.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah. Man, he's been He's had a fast car on
qualifying day.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, it took him forever to win. And uh and
you know, you felt like Christopher Bell was the guy
leading the way for that team. But man, Brisco, dude,
he's been freaking fast and I did not expect it
out of him.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Fast, but you know, a little bit inconsistent. I'll have
runs of good ones and then I'll have really races too.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah. And and right now, as it stands, after twenty
three races, so we're only two thirds of the way
through the season. He's already set career highs in top fives,
top tens, and he's pacing to have a career best
average start and a career best average finish. And of
course he's tied his you know high number of wins,

(08:21):
which is one, but you know, if he gets a
second one, he'll have career highs across the board, which
is pretty freaking impressive.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Crazy one to move from a dying team to a fly, you.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Know, And I will admit where I'm wrong. You know,
I thought that that was not a very smart move
on the part of jg R. I thought they were
getting somebody who really didn't have a whole lot of upside.
But he's proving me wrong. It took him a little
while to get adjusted to the guard, but now it
looks like he's got plenty of upside.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah. I mean, Jesus, I've been bad all day with
how to swallow things, ladies. But I mean it's one
of those things where it's just like you look at it,
it takes a little bit of time, and I think
just adapting to everything new as well is a situation
that they have to all figure out. But I think

(09:09):
once you get your feet about him, I mean, the
second half of the season, he's been running really well,
but it but it really comes down to how can
he stay consistent because of the glen Eh, you know,
two top ten, sure, but he's also had two terrible
finishes as well, so twenty five and below. Yeah, So
I mean it's it's written, and then you go to
Daytona where he's he's okay at but again it's a hit.

(09:32):
It's a hit and a pall or nothing situation for
him at Daytona most times. So we'll see how it goes.
I think he's I mean, he's gonna he's gonna have
a great career year. But the problem is, how is
he going to you know, have himself and how can
he ace himself through the consistency?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, and and the playoffs are going to be a
big determinant of what we expect from him in the
near future with a JR as well, because he's in
but and he's used to the car, but can he
step it up and perform at the same level that
you would expect a JGR driver to perform at when
it's really on the line. And we'll find that out
sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Absolutely, we always do, right, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Ratings for this one at Iowa two point one seven
to four million on USA Network, which they called two
point two million. That is get this And they were
saying this as if it were like this like impressive thing, Hey,
look what we've done. They were like two point one
four to seven million, or two point one seven four

(10:34):
million is the second highest number viewership wise for the
past ten Cup races. And from my perspective, I'm like, dude,
if you're saying that two point two million, let's I
will round it up for them. That two point two
million is the second highest in the last ten races.
That's not like, hey, this is like a high water mark.

(10:56):
I'm like, dude, this is where we've this is where.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
We're at, know, yeah, this is kind of how it's been.
It's that and people celebrating this victory like this eah,
I mean no, dog like it was the highest it
was the highest rated sports thing in the weekend. What
else was there but like nothing Speedway Classic. Yeah, that's true.

(11:19):
That did drift over into Sunday exactly for what it
was worth. But I mean you look, you look at
it and the fact that this is quote unquote on
par with stof It's like, what are we doing? What?
Why are we celebrating two million? This used to be.
I mean, I understand that ratings in general for TV
shows and things across the board, are down, but I mean,

(11:40):
I guess, celebrate small victories why you can, but also
don't bask in mediocrity either. Yeah, and that's exactly what
NASCAR is doing. But NASCAR doesn't care. They have their money.
They could give a shit exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're getting that TV dollar, so what do they care anymore.
Last year's Iowall Race was significantly higher at two point
six nine three million, but you got to remember that
was the first race in Iowa, and first races always
get a bump, and apparently that bump is about six
hundred thousand people. For some reason, USA was comparing it

(12:16):
to Richmond from a year ago, but one exactly one
year ago was the Olympic break and the Richmond race
was actually the week we're going into the weekend we're
going in two and that was on USA and that
was two point two two million. So yeah, it's close
to that number, a little bit below, but it's close

(12:37):
to that number. But also you have to take into
account that that's a Saturday night race. I was it
a Saturday race last year? It may it may not
have been, and if it wasn't, don't don't email me.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But one way or the other, it will be very
interesting for me to see where we go from here,
because there are at two point one, seven four or
a million, and this weekend is Watkins Glenn, which it
might be up a little bit. I mean, the attendance
will be good there. I don't know if that affects
TV viewership. But then we do get Richmond and that

(13:11):
is a Saturday night race, and I'm worried about that
one because Saturday night races typically do way better. Well
back in the day, they did way better in terms
of the crowd at the track than they did on
TV because it's a busy night, people are doing things.
So I'll be very curious to see. There is a possibility,
very slim possibility, but there is a possibility we might

(13:32):
see that number slip below two million.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
No, I don't think there's I think it's the definite
possibility to me. Yeah, because listen, because is that not
When when is the Richmond race? So I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Of Matthew, that's two weeks, right, I believe.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So, yeah, so that that will be.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
That. I don't think it's Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, no, no, And I'm not worried about that. When
is college football starts?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh my gosh, I don't know when did they start
playing those starts?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
August twenty third.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh no, that will be the first day of college football.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, it's there.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Let me's theay August yep, August twenty oh no, no, no, sorry,
August twenty third is that's the Coke zero So that
will be and that is.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
A Saturday night too, Saturday night too, and that's Daytona.
So what are those southern people going to figure out?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Mm hmm. Yeah, Alabama's playing, and Auburn's playing, and everyone's
playing LSU like all of them. Man, But who I
guess who's playing at night? I suppose that it is
a good question. I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, well no, August twenty third, there's only a few
Iowa State and Kansas State. That's in the afternoon. Hawaii
plays at seven thirty. That's early for Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, bet game in.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I was gonna say, we usually can bet late into
the night on that one and only it looks like
a handful of games, which still people are gonna be
hammed hammed up. It's the week after the twenty eighth,
which is first week of playoffs, okay, and I think
also the first week of the NFL season maybe no,
what uh like NFL started early. Sorry no September fourth,
sorry preseason maybe yeah yeah yeah so last last preseason gimmick.

(15:12):
But yeah. Still even so, it's like, wow, what are
we what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I don't know. So I'm looking at the first at
week one here, and I'm looking at late games like
you said, well, I can't say I always states during
the day. I don't know that Saint Francis, La Monroe,
Mike grabs.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Some Oh boy, never mind, jeez.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh you know Missouri in Central Arkansas at four thirty,
which is seven thirty East coast time, Duke, come on,
man uh uab and Alabama State is five thirty pm
my time, So eight thirty pm East coast time.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's who cares about Birmingham and Alabama State?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Michigan State, that's not it doesn't.
Illinois is a late game, and gentlemen, Baylor and none
of these are like, oh yeah, we're already down. We're
already down to like we're not not in the twenty
third anymore.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
So, yeah, the twenty third is going to be a
heck of a heck of a time to see how
people react the thirty first, as well as that will
probably be the first full fledged week of college football,
and then September seventh, the first first week of the
NFL season. Yeah, both in the playoffs on USA. Yeah,
those numbers be slipping. And the August thirty first is

(16:39):
a Sunday night race.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh yeah, I would think, yeah, I think there's Sunday
night the rest of the way out after.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is well, no, there's a Saturday night race at Bristol.
Oh okay, yep, but here's my question. Is late pretty
August September first, September first, Yeah, yeah this year. Wow,
that's really okay. Yeah, yeah, well good then good to know.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, shout shout up Merlin. Their warm up game is
Florida Atlantic, so they'll win at least one game this year, sure,
yeah wow wow. And then they hit it up with
Northern Illinois and then Tayson.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And they'll win Towson. Oh my gosh, so so.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh man, Yeah, it sucks to be Merlin because so
so you get you get to Florida Atlantic, you get
the Northern, No, no, you get the Towson, right, and
then all of a sudden, right after that, Wisconsin, Washington, Nebraska,
u c l A, Indiana, Rutgers. It's brutal Michigan, Michigan State.
And then the season's over and you go cry.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
You'll be like, I don't know what happens.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
You got good, so at least they'll win their first
three and then it's all downhill after that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Hey man, that's the way she goes sometimes exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
All right, what else do I have here? No standings? Okay,
So William Byron wins his second race of the year
and he takes the point lead back away from Chase Elliot.
He's got an eighteen point lead over Elliott. Things are
pretty exciting for this regular season title. Kyle Larson is third,
but he's now forty five points back. Denny Hamlin is fourth,

(18:14):
fifty one points back despite having won four races, and
Christopher Bell, despite having won three races, is eighty six
out and fifth. The rest of the top ten Reddick
and then Blainey, Briscoe, Bayman and Wallace. Now, when you
get to the bottom of the playoff standings SFG, Josh Barry,
Austin Cindric still outside the top sixteen, pick up your crap.

(18:36):
Guys get moving and all of them because of that,
that moves the cut line before it was at Bubba Wallace,
who at the time was thirteenth, but of course he's
now won a race and he's jumped up the tenth
because he actually had a really good Iowa race too,
And so now the cut line is with the eleventh
place driver, Chris Busher. He's got a twenty three point

(19:00):
lead over Ryan Pries and he's forty points behind Alex
Bayman in ninth. So none of that is settled. Yet
we still have thirteen winners in twenty three races, so
that means we have three to go, and so we
theoretically could still have sixteen winners taking up all of
the slots. But I'll tell you man, Tyler Reddick, who

(19:23):
is the highest placed non win driver. He's in sixth.
He's got a fifty nine point leadover Bowman, a ninety
nine point lead over Chris bush Or with three to go.
As long as you don't wreck early on, that's pretty
safe points wise.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
He is gonna Tyler Redick is gonna be hoping that
this weekend at the Glenn that if he doesn't win,
that like SFG just like pummels everybody again because basically
SVG winning or somebody who's already won this year. Winning
locks doesn't lock him in, but but he'll have a
very very good chance of getting him because now we

(19:57):
will have at least one guaranteed slot on points, and
he's the guy with the points right now.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's just got you gotta hope for
the best. I mean, right now, right now, it's just
don't let anybody else win. It's almost playing spoiler role. Yeah,
and hope. I almost hope. It's not so much you know,
prevent because you can get doc for that. But you know,
it's it's one eye on the thing. And as as
the race is a couple of races take off here,
you can feel a little bit safer, a little bit

(20:24):
safer if you're Tyler Reddick. But everyone else is gonna
be in panic mode.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Like like if like if aj Allmendinger is leading the
race and they're like all jumpled up because of pit cycles,
and you know, if Tyler Reddick is right next to him,
a little bump, little bumping bumping. Oh no, ma, I
got a little loose. My tire's going down exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I know what's happening. He was Iowa a good race Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
So I was thinking about that after the race, and unfortunately,
I'm gonna think I'm gonna say the the A good
majority of the people said yes, because they played up
that fuel mile a jangle, and because there were so
many cautions that you get a lot of restarts, despite
the fact that all of the restarts were your typical
intermediate track restarts, even though we weren't at an intermediate

(21:10):
track technically, where it's just like it was exciting for
two turns and then once they got lined up, then
they were lined up. I'm gonna set for me, this
was like a fifty percent race, right, So I'm gonna
say that for the general public, we're probably talking about
sixty seven percent said it was.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Good, twenty just a smidge under. Twenty four thousand yeah
voted yeah. Fifty three point two percent said no, it
was not a good race. Oh point eight said it
was a good race.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I can't believe that they agreed with me on that
one man.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
It's the only other Iowa. The other the last year
of Iowa race got a ninety one point one Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
In fact, not only they agree with me, I was
actually a little more optimistic than the real number.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
You were fifty four of sixty two short tracks in
the poll, twenty second of twenty five races this season,
and eleventh of fifteen William Byron win Well.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's good because that means that the few NASCAR fans
that are left are are you know, educated enough to
understand what's really happening on the track and not just
buy into the hype.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, and a couple more things for debriefing. Kevin Harvick
said on The Happy Harvick Minute or whatever the hell
he calls his podcast, Yeah, says this car sucks. It
doesn't seem like we're making up any ground, or 're
making any ground or making it better. It's tough to watch.
Few mint traces a short track, combined with Dale Junior
saying it's just it's not a stock car. It's an imscar. Oh,

(22:40):
it is for sure, So he does he don't like
it because it's not an actual stock they're not actually
stock car race.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's like they're like Irock races.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, and unfortunately, I mean it's a scale that is
impossible to balance. And that's what NASCAR is trying to do, right,
because if you make the cars sock, then you do
get more parody. I mean, we've seen thirteen winners this year,
and you should theoretically bring costs down, although I think

(23:10):
a lot of car owners would argue with me that
costs have really come down that much. But if you
go the other way, right, then yes, the haves start
to dominate the have nots. You'r Hendrick, your Gibbs, you know,
teams like that tend to start to really dominate, and
so you see the total number of winners come down,
but innovation goes up. Like if you let these guys

(23:32):
like actually be able to do stuff with the car,
then you know, it's not everybody thinks that, oh, it
would just be Hendrick dominating everybody, But that's not the
case because we didn't see that in the past. What
we saw were organizations figure things out right, and then
that gave them an advantage for five, six, eight races.

(23:53):
But everybody else figures out what they're doing, and then
they start to do it too, and it pulls them back.
And then somebody else figures something out, and so that
innovation allows these teams to have more freedom, and then
it allows the balance of power to go back and forth. Yeah,
maybe amongst the bigger teams and not so much the
smaller teams, but it still makes it more interesting, you know.

(24:16):
And I was also reading somewhere else. It was basically
in the comments, but people were debating back and forth.
It was I can't even remember what the what the
article was about, but it wasn't specifically about the car,
but it might have been. And and somebody was liking
it or comparing it to F one and oh they

(24:38):
were talking about I think we were talking about like
attendance and viewership numbers, and oh, there were actually no
I remember because Kyle Busch, Oh, we got to talk
about this. This is more interesting than the new stuff anyway.
So there were two articles that were suggested to me today.
And usually the articles that Google suggests are all crap,
like clickbait. These were interesting, right. One was an interview

(25:01):
that Kyle Busch did with somebody and they were asking
him about viewership and attendance and they said, what do
you think is happening here compared to the heyday, which,
of course, you know, Kyle Busch came into the sport
on the back end of that and he said, well,
I think it's a cultural shift. And when he said that,
I was thinking, oh, he means within NASCAR, But no,
he didn't mean within NASCAR. He meant a cultural shift externally.

(25:25):
And at first I was going to just dismiss it,
but this is kind of an interesting argument, and there
is some fact to this. I just don't know how
much he said that. Like when he came into the sport,
and then before that, back into its heyday, you had
a lot of these people that were baby boomers, right,
that were super interested in muscle cars and like you know,

(25:47):
sixties big iron muscle cars and like to soup them up.
They like to restore them. They'd pay hundreds of thousands
of dollars for them. And that car like people who
like that kind of car, liked the sound and the
driving on the ovals of car. It's all about going
really really fast. It doesn't matter if it can handle
or not. Those are the types of cars they liked.
That doesn't exist anymore. Like young kids, even though they

(26:08):
were taken to the track with their dads or their
grandfathers when they were young, they like different types of
cars and these cars. Now, coy Busch isn't smart enough
to really lay this out this way, but that's what
he meant. Is that, you know, you go you went
through if you were like in the nineties into the
two thousands, the kids then, not the old guys, but

(26:28):
the kids were more into the you know, Japanese tuner cars.
You know, they were into the souping up a Honda
because they could afford a Honda, right, They couldn't afford
a freaking sixty nine Camaro SS. And so they ended
up like in their culture, like racing cars was different,
and so you would tune up the car and it

(26:51):
might not even go fast, and it might have neon
lights on the big stereo, and people who build cars
like that, they may not even care at all about racing.
And so he was like, there are less racing fans
now because the car culture is different. And I don't
disagree with that. I don't know if it's the reason,
but I certainly think it's a reason. And then the

(27:13):
second thing was a Kyle Larson interview where I think
somebody was kind of tailing onto that and saying, well,
you know, oh no, he wasn't even asked about the
Kyle Busch thing, but he was asked about what racing
movies he liked the most. Of course, he was like
Days of Thunder. And then there was something about Formula
one racing from back in the day that he really liked.

(27:33):
He said he hadn't seen the new movie. And then
they asked him about Talladega Nights and he was like,
you know, he said, I love Talladega Knights is a
really funny movie. But I think that that movie probably
did more harm for NASCAR than it did good for
NASCAR because it turned the sport into a big two

(27:53):
hour joke. And again, I don't think he's wrong. I
think there are elements of truth to that, and it
may have like negatively affected or reinforced that the people
in that car culture that NASCAR was like this goofy
stereotypical thing. The problem is the only reason Talladega Knights

(28:14):
was made the way it was is because those stereotypes
were based on something right. They were emulating. They were
making fun of the ridiculousness that exists or existed in
those spheres around the sport. So I don't know what
you think of both of those about the culture changing
being a negative influence and how much, and then something

(28:36):
like Talladega Knights being so iconic but portraying the sport
in a goofy joke like fashion and how much influence
that could have on you know, the two point one
seven four million people that watch this weekend.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I'm going to take the second part first, but do
it last. I'm going to take the first part first,
that was going to do second. So the culture shift, yeah,
I think yeah, I think that's that's probably the most
reasonable thing is that the cars are getting less, noisier, less,
it's more technical, it's more becoming towards f one. Also,
races are too damn long for the attention span that

(29:11):
people have.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Massut Kyle Busch. I don't want to interrupt, but Kyle
Busch specifically said that, and I was like, thank goodness,
some driver is saying that. He was like, when it's
ninety five degrees and the sun is blasting and you
got to sit on a metal hot bleacher for four hours,
he was like, if I wasn't in the sport, I
wouldn't do that. So good point.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
He says, he's not gonna interrupt, yet it does that anyway, Firs.
I don't know what to tell you. I said, I
didn't mean to, so yeah, I mean, I mean, definitely
there is a culture shift and NASCAR has tried to
and I think NASCAR also is to blame because they
tried too hard to force youth into the sport and
they missed the mark entirely. It's not they try to

(29:55):
do a quick transition rather than the slow burn, and
the slow burn probably go to help people and and
and slowly integrating a younger audience into it, and and
and doing it that way. But I think by and large,
I mean Kyle Busch is right. I mean he's a
guy who saw as you know, at the end of
it and the dip and and kind of grew up
and and I guess molded himself during that popular era,

(30:17):
like going through the truck Series and things like that,
so he would know on both scales of it. As
far as the Taladegan Knights thing, I wholeheartedly agree it
made NASCAR not necessarily a joke. But when people think NASCAR,
it's no longer Jeff Gordon Daler and Herd Junior, it's
Ricky Bobby right. So and and even you see the

(30:39):
Bristol the the the Bristol baseball game, the catcher for
the Reds had had Ricky Bobby gear on, oh right,
like kind of like the wonder the wonderbread thing, but
with the Cincinnati Reds logo and mister Red's head on
there as one of the bubbles and it was fantastic.
But while it did inspire a culture and while you
know it is a touchstone for the sport, is it

(31:01):
necessarily a good one? I don't think it is. But again,
it's it was it's almost they did it as low
hanging fruit, and then not everyone was on the joke, right,
and NASCAR wasn't in the joke. They become the butt
of the joke. And you know, by and large it's
it's a quotable movie and things like that. But I
think the damning part is is they haven't done anything

(31:23):
as serious as F one has done with their movies.
What you know is it is it literally the Brad
pitt One just called F one, I think it is. Yeah.
And then you have Driven before that was sliced alone
and that was a super serious movie.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And then there was one with Steve McQueen back in
the day.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, and I mean it was like the the it
didn't it wasn't a joke. And then you look at
what NASCAR decides to to put their rights with the
Crew with Kevin James, and it doesn't work because again,
but of the joke, they're just just idiot idiot yokels
kind of doing things. And I mean it's a situation

(32:02):
where NASCAR, did you know, They're just like, yeah, it's
a funny movie, it's a comedy. Will Ferrell's how to
bring attention to the sport you have, But it brings
the wrong attention if you want to be taken seriously.
It becomes a touchdown when you need something else to
become a touchdown because more people know Ricky Bobby than
they do Ricky Stenhouse Junior, which I guess is fine

(32:23):
just the first game, but I mean, I mean, Ryan
Blaney should be a bigger star than he is, but
he's not. Why is that Bubba Wallace, Hell, even Joey Logano,
He's won multiple championships very recently. Why is he not
a bigger person out there? Is that? Because these guys
won't step up and step out into the limelight. So
the only you know, reference that anybody has on NASCAR

(32:44):
of a driver is Ricky Bobby. Yeah, I think they did.
I mean, you don't have that one face of the
sport like you did with Dale Senior like you did
with Jeff Gordon, like you did with Jimmy Johnson. There's
no face of NASCAR right now, and that's what hurting it.
That face replaced by Will Ferrell from a movie a
decade and change ago.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, you're you're absolutely right. I mean really, I mean
when when Dale Junior was the most popular driver in
the sport, was nobody was doing interviews saying, oh man,
I think that Talladega Knights hurt the sport because it
made us into a joke, because there was something that
transcended that there was a personality that was real, that
transcended that. You're absolutely right in on top of that,

(33:24):
not only well two things. Number one, you made a
fantastic point that it's not like the people who made
Talladega Knights were like, we're going to make a movie
about NASCAR and make fun of it, whether NASCAR wants
us to or not. NASCAR wholeheartedly embraced it, right, I
mean they were filming on pace laps during real races,

(33:48):
and same thing with the Kevin James thing, like they
embraced it, Like these decisions are NASCAR's more than anybody else's.
They could have decided to go a different direction and
they didn't. And then Talladega Knights isn't just a standout
movie in how it portrays the sport, but there's been

(34:08):
nothing afterwards, So it's so it's a combination of there's
only ever been one serious NASCAR movie, Days of Thunder,
and then there was nothing that came afterwards to balance
that out, you know. And and again that's on NASCAR
because they haven't been able to find the people are
funded that sell themselves and they could, they could funded

(34:29):
themselves if they wanted to. But Formula One it's done
a great job of portraying their sport in a serious
light and fully embracing like they're fully on board. I
don't know if it's a full partnership financially or not,
but they are on board with this Brad Pitt movie.
And then they got the sport portrayed the way they
wanted to in dramatic fashion.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, exactly because they know they'd like to, you know,
protect their IP, yeah, yeah, rather than Nike a mockery
of it. Another thing that came out of that Larsen
interview was that he called Martinsville hot Dogs disgusting.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
The bum ones are the bun less ones. Oh no, wait, sorry,
that's Bristol, that's not Martinsville. Never mind.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, Kyle Larson said, I think they're disgusting. I don't
know if they're like colored, die of them or what,
but they're like red bright red. Jeff Gluck said he's
confused why people think it's controversial. He says, those cancer
sticks are completely unnatural color. They stained the bun pink.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Do they really Oh my gosh, it's scary.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I thought those were very interesting takes and very interesting
interviews with two people who don't typically speak out about
things like that. And I mean, we've criticized Kyle Bush
in the past for not engaging with the fans, and
so it's kind of funny that he points out a

(35:55):
culture shift when he so blatantly has chown to not
be part of the solution there. So how does that
not make him part of the problem that he's describing
to everybody?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, exactly, it's like if you're if you're in past,
he's just like, I'm not going to go do this.
If you're the part of the problem, then you really
you can complain. But you're also not bringing a solution
to the table either.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Exactly. He's one of the most influential drivers in the garage.
He could help somehow. And then it was in the
comments to I think that article, uh, the one with
the Kyle Busch comments, that somebody was like, you know,
they were saying that they were equating NASCAR, and I
don't think this is inaccurate. They were kind of suggesting

(36:40):
that it's a relic of a bygone era and they
were talking about F one, and I mean, you can
make the argument. You can make You can absolutely make
the argument that the racing, the quality of the racing
in F one is not great. Right, if somebody gets
a technical advantage, they've they've beaten everybody. That's it, right,

(37:01):
And so yeah, you don't get the type of action
you get in NASCAR. But a lot of people would
say NASCAR racing is born because they just go round
in circles, round in circles, around in circles. The differentiator
there though, in this person's comment was that at least
with F one, they're pushing cutting edge technology and because

(37:22):
the rules are open enough and they have this new
technology to work with that you can find out as
a fan that hey, you know, Ferrari has this upgrade
that they've tested and it's going to be amazing and
they're going to bring it to SPA next week. Right,
And so now you have this anticipation for your driver
that this upgrade is going to come and then you're

(37:43):
a big Lewis Hamilton van all of a sudden he
starts winning races because of this upgrade. It can happen.
It doesn't always happen like that. In fact, it very
rarely happens that, you know, one upgrade faults somebody up
to the top, but it can happen, right And in NASCAR,
because they're running spec cars, it can't happen. You can't
have your favorite driver and your favorite team come up

(38:03):
with an upgrade that's going to give them an advantage.
Now your team has gone from the bottom to the top.
And part of that is because there is not a
whole lot of technology in the car is And the
other part is, like we've been talking about here for
a couple of minutes, their spect cars.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, you just have to get the right people to
tune it in. And sometimes you don't get the right
people or the right people that you can't offer the
money the other teams do, so it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Well, it's just another example of how, in an all
out effort for a NASCAR to lower the cost for
teams and increase their own profits, they've forgotten about the
fact that if you loosen the purse strings or let
teams loosen the purse strings and give them more room
to work, they can create a more compelling product for
the fans. And then you don't need to worry that
much about what the bottom line is because you got

(38:50):
more fans, you got more money coming in.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah. And I mean if you tell them, hey, you'll
get more money, they will jump on that, let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So I mean, and there was some arearticle that I
saw a headline for that look at because I figured
it wasn't true that they were thinking about giving the
cars more horse power, which would be desperately which is
desperately needed. But again, again, you know, that's that's not
like putting the adjustability and the arrow back in the
hands of the team. So that's just giving them a
little bit more horsepower, which is.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Going to start yeah and coming next year though.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but you just have to do something
to allow these drivers to drive the car, and more
power can do that. At a smaller track like Iowa,
then you have too much power for the track. That's
what you need, is too much power because then you
got to let off and you got to hit the
brakes and and so it's it's those times when they're
not just full on throttle, that's when things can happen.

(39:43):
That's when racing can happen. And so until they until
they do something to make these cars racier in that
respect where you've got to get off the gas and
then there's adjustability built into the car that the people
that do it right, that can feel the car the best,
can adjust the car the best, can get a slight
handling advantage. Then then it's gonna be the same. It's
gonna be like Iowa.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
All right. So, speaking of Io Quick, John Kernan is
a xenopho because he doesn't like Lee Diffy's accent. Oh
my gosh, what did you not see this? All right?
So John Kernan, who used to do NASCAR years ago, okay,
did a lot of stuff with ESPN in the nineties
and early two thousand. So he said in a tweet,

(40:26):
he said, I think I'm done with NASCAR after further review.
Stage racing sucks. Fair true, and I'm sure Lee Diffy's
a great guy, But if I want to hear an accent,
I'll watch Formula One. What the hell, I guess I'm
xenophobic this guy.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
This guy is gonna say that about NASCAR being what
I'm assuming he's a long time NASCAR person, NASCAR fan.
Has he never ever heard of fing Jackie Stewart.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, he's a long time he's a NASCAR Yeah, NASCAR
former pit reporter.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh well, if he's a pit reporter, then you should
know who freaking Stewart is. And nobody had a problem
with him because the dude is a legend and he
was on NASCAR broadcasts all the time back in the
day when there when I'm sure a lot of people
would have been willing to say stuff about his accent.
I think has a bunch of bullshit, is.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
What that is. Yeah, so it's just the old guy
who hasn't worked in NASCAR in two decades getting mad
at NASCAR for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, well fhm. And I'm saying that because I likely
Diffie a lot, and because of course he is a
friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
We haven't talked to him.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
We have talked to him in a long time, but
we did.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
You did, I didn't, I know, but there.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Were questions that I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
That you gave me. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
He was a technical limitation of the show at the time.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
All right. Let's move on to so a little bit
in NASCAR news before we get into Watkins Glenn this weekend.
There will be a change in the restart procedure for
Watkins Glen. They're moving the restart zone back to I
think either in or right before the final turn. And
their thought process for this in the press release was

(42:11):
that that final turn is so exciting, but it's not
so exciting when cars aren't going full speed. So I'm
not really quite sure what it does. I don't think
it's going to have any impact on how things go
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I think what they want to do is get cars
up to speed faster than in turn one so they
can break better.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Okay, all right, and it creates more excitment down to
turn one. All right, I get that part does make sense.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's the reason why they're just like, man,
we really didn't plan this track out very well back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean in the tracks defense, it's ancient,
so exactly, they weren't really thinking of current cup cars
when they put the whole thing together. Umm, check this out.
I did not know and I just found today. I
learned that the NASCAR Hall of Fame is not run
or owned by NASCAR. I believe that it's run and

(43:04):
owned by the City of Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
And again that's also something I believe.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, And so obviously NASCAR puts all the stuff inside,
and they you know, are in partnership and their offices
are there and everything, but it's actually a property of
the City of Charlotte, and they have asked the museum
people have asked the city for twenty five million dollars
to do renovations and expand the event space because while

(43:34):
attendance is up a little bit, they aren't making the
money they thought they were going to make, which I
don't think surprises either of us.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Why did they think it was going to make money?
I know, right, there's like nothing there. You were there, right, Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun. But but
what I be so much more? But what I get
on a plane. Would I buy a ticket to fly
to Charlotte just to see that? No, No, I don't
think so. I was there anyway, and I was in
Charlotte anyway, So it's like, oh, I'm gonna go I'm
going to go see the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Sure, and then you know, Charlotte not the hot spot
vacation destiny, right, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, it's not like there's some other reason to go there.
And while you're there, well you know, I'll just go
stop by. I mean I was there for work. So
that's perfect example of how of what there is to
do in Charlotte. Otherwise it's just work.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Like legit put it in Daytona Beach like that where
the Daytona five hundred is. Yeah. Yeah, like that's a
that's a destination for people vacation wise, and like, oh,
by the way, we can take a day and go
to the NASCAR Hall of Fame museum.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Gimmick exactly, because whenever anybody goes to the beach for
like a week or two, like you eventually get bored
to the beach or like what is there to do
you go in there?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I don't want to go to another Sun Stations exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Get another, get another T shirt. That is one of
the big heat press transfer thing.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I don't need another female body instructor.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
And and so you go in there and you're like, hey,
this is actually pretty cool. Maybe I'll check out a race.
But they put it where we're the only people that
are going by it every day are people who work
in that industry, so.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
They don't care. I've seen that before, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So yeah, I think so at passed committee, their Economic
Development Committee. It now goes on to the city council
for approval. So it's a two step process. Honestly, I
had to look up Charlotte's budget. It's around three point
seven billion dollars. This is so the thing about and
I know a little bit about this, the thing about

(45:35):
what they want to do, which is expanding the event space,
like they want to be able to compete with convention
centers and things, and convention center business is like hot competition, right,
and you've got to have the latest stuff. And if
you do have the latest stuff, you get people, right,
you get like conferences and things. They move, they move

(45:56):
from like one convention center to the other because that
convention center just upgraded to the newest, best of stuff,
and it's not cheap, like all that stuff you need
isn't cheap because you need a lot of it, right,
And so I'm sure that's what this is all about.
And so I'm positive that the council is going to
say yes if they got a budget of three point
seven billion, and this is something that's probably not like
a twenty five million that they're all going to spend

(46:17):
this year, so it's probably chopped up between like a
couple of years and they have like a two or
three year plan or something like that. So they're going
to say yes. But it is I think the interesting
part of this story is that they have to go
to the city to ask for it, because in most
instances where a city owns a space like that, it's

(46:39):
what's called an enterprise account. It runs on its own right,
like the city gets it started, and then from there
they run their own books, like all the money comes
in from their business they're doing, and that's what determines
how much they can spend. And then like the tax
money has nothing to do with it anymore. It's just
it's often running. It's a baby bird out of its

(47:00):
nest So the fact that they have to come back,
that's a pretty big deal, like that usually doesn't happen,
and it only typically does happen because they're losing business.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
And that was your city council at the end of
the week post. Now you know how budgets.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Work, exactly, exactly, So interesting that they had to ask
for that money, But I think they'll get it. I loved,
I loved, loved, loved reading all of the articles about
the Speedway Classic last weekend because I honestly didn't even
pay attention to it until you hit me up about
it and was like, dude, Saturday was just a complete

(47:36):
and utter mess, and it was, and they had logistical issues.
Then they had logistical issues on Sunday for the comeback
after the rain out, even though not nearly as many
people showed up. And the crazy part about it is,
if you go anywhere on social media, you would see
all of the crazy stories about people having the weight
in line and there's no food and like nobody knew

(47:56):
what was going on, and the articles on the third
party site, we're outlining that. But if you go to
MLB or especially NASCAR dot com, they basically were like
this was the greatest event ever. It was record setting,
and it's gonna live in It's gonna live on as
one of the high water marks of baseball history.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, literally and figuratively. So I'm reading the Sports Business
Journal article on it, and apparently gates opened two hours
earlier than originally expect it. Oh wow, because storms were coming.
Oh right, first pitch was delayed for two hours, very
li minute coverage, and people were just buying things at

(48:41):
that time. So when you have that, things will run
out early when you don't expect it to. So when
you have that whole thing, just every awful awful event
you could have gets thrown in there. And that's what
you have. Bundless hot dogs and cheese less nachos.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I mean, I could live through a buttonless hot dog,
but cheeseles snatchos. It's just a like a bucket of chips.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Man, it's maaget Tostito's dog. Like, it's not that big
a deal. Exactly. Hot dogs without a bun's fine. Yeah,
you just have to be You just have to look
around and now you eat it.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, exactly, especially if you know if they have plenty
of mustard, you got mustard you're good.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
You're real villain.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
But apparently, like the fan fast situation was pretty bad too,
Like they just didn't plan for enough crowd control and
so it was just like a mess people trying to
like navigate their way around the fan fest. It was
just like wall to wall people.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, I mean, you don't. MLB does not know how
to do things apparently to that without any help, because
I mean usually if they have all star things, that
the festivities are spread out over X amount of days
and you have the city helping you, so convention center,
you have the area, you have space. This one was

(50:02):
done in the day, and logistically, you know, people are
going to want to see everything, and they're just like,
well we didn't we didn't plan this one out. Well,
we got their money, it's not our problem anymore. Yeah.
So Yeah, although although the MLB Special Event senior VP
said the fan zone far exceeded everyone's expectation.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Of course he did.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
He did.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I mean, technically he's not wrong. Their expectation was was
going to be that that was going to be fun
and maybe a little crowded, and went way beyond a
little crowded.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
They got they got their number. There are ninety Over
ninety one thousand people attended the event on Saturday, and
then things that weren't Since it wasn't you Saturday, people
with the ticket were allowed to return Sunday. I think
a fraction of the people did that, and they were
allowed to bring outside food and drink in a clear bag.
So outside food and non alcoholic drinks were allowed to

(50:57):
be brought to the event.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
This is This is all water, sir, This is this
container is just full of water and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
No, no, we don't worry about it. Don't check it
or taste it or smell exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
What else we got, Like you said, NASCAR like there
were rumors that they were thinking about upping the horse power,
maybe even before the end of the year. That's definitely
not happening. It would have been a bump from six
hundred and seventy to seven hundred and fifty horse power.
It looks like Stuart Freezing is back home after that crazy, crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Wreck, and then the details of his injuries are wild too.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, let's see here he got.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
He had a shattered pelvis.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
He had his right tibbianphibula broken. We had extra plate screws, rods,
and pins into that leg. He fractured his C seven
vertebrate and fractured his left him.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
My gosh, that's crazy, dude.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
And that was all in that hit that he took
after he rebounded off the top of the wall. Wow.
So because that flupped driver's side and that car just
plowed into him drivers, it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I mean, you know, it's it's gonna be a while
before he comes back, unfortunately, if at all. So so
that that that's really a bummer. I mean, he was
just having fun and it all went sideways. And so
hopefully that doesn't like, if there's a chance that he
can come back, hopefully he feels confident coming back.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah, I mean we'll see how it goes. I mean
he's got he's got a family to worry about too.
I mean he can still run. He's forty two years old. Yeah,
so it's one of those gimmicks where it's just like, yeah,
maybe maybe maybe it's time to possibly hang it up.
I mean, you can start your I think he does
have his own race team, so.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, yeah, he definitely has his own race team for
dirt tracks. I don't know if he has his own
and like x.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
OR team and he's got he runs his own truck team.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Oh okay, okay, good, oh good, okay, Well that's good.
Then he's got something that he can still be involved
in the sport. If he's physically unable to race, he
can still be the the bows.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, do the tiff thing? Yeah, exactly. Do you see
that news about Chicago? What you mean about Bill murrayam
Billy Murray?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Bill Murray Man, he's gonna be the Grand Marshall for
the UH Gateway Race?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
What? What? When did the Bill Murray thing? I always
like the track back when Bill Murray became like the
the big thing, like meme wise, like many years ago.
Why did why did Bill Murray become so popular in
the second Rebound? Oh, I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know. Everyone's just like we love Bill Murray. Yeah,
just shows up.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Who doesn't love Bill Murray?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Probably most of those Ghostbusters maybe Ghostbusters? What about Bob
come on man, Scarlett Johanson in that one movie.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Oh yeah, oh that's.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Right, she probably doesn't like him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Caddy Shack, I mean Caddy Shack come on.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, seriously, Caddyshack was more of a Rodney Dangerfield vehicle
covering up that.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I don't know, strip stripes, stripes.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Not first half of stripes. It should have ended after
they did the performance. Everything after that.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Oh my god, I'm trying to think of what else
he was then, obviously, Like I said, what about Bob
king Pin. Yeah, yeah, he was in Kingpin. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Oh, the Life Aquatic Steve Suzu, Yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
That was a funny one, funny one. He hasn't really
been in any real serious films ever.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
As he remember seventies I think, I mean like that that.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
On the Rocks when I never saw that one. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah,
I'm looking at some of his other things that there's interesting,
interesting choices that of course Totsy it's a big, big movie.
I mean, he's he's a funny actor, so he should
be in funny movies, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Oh my gosh, I did not know that he did
a voice in Isle of Dogs. I've had completely forgotten
that that film existed. That was a really good film.
It was a little creepy because of the animation style,
but it was a really good film. That's a Garfield too, Yeah,
he was he was the wasn't he had the voice
of Garfield.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
You can't remember, hey the most recent Garfield Yeah yeah,
not on the one where Lorenzo Music did. There was
that whole thing about Oh my god. Lorenzo Music also
was the Peter Frankman voice in the Ghostbusters cartoon too, and.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Oh really I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
There you go. Well, William Murray and then what else
do we have here? I'm down to just sponsorships stuff.
I don't know if you have anything else.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Okay, so we mentioned we mentioned, just back to the
Bristol thing. They're also open to hosting other events, and
the NHL apparently was at the game and trying to
look at events to do outdoor game at Bristol, and boy,
that is.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
They could, but they shouldn't. The problem there, Yeah, it's
just you know, you got the track man, and so
there's no really good place to put a hockey rank
and then have people be able to be.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Up close right exactly, and there's only one and there's
only one scoreboard and videotron and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, I mean, when they do it in a ballpark,
they can they can wedge that thing up against some
of the stands. So you get some people up close
and then they can put bleachers around the other side.
You can't like set up a whole lot of bleachers
in the infield at Bristol because it's so small and
their buildings.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
And things and banking and everything like that. Yeah, exactly.
So they want to hold events there now because they
saw they I mean after the football and they're like, oh,
the baseball can do it there, and blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
The next thing they want to do a basketball and
then have you in smaller court and people ten miles
away with binoculars.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
So the so Bristol has a race coming up here
in September and they will need to rebuild half the
infield garage.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
What they tore down the garage for this.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I didn't know that they had to make way for
the Braves clubhouse. Wow, and they had to they have
to put up some more pit road concrete that was
taken out to accommodate trucks delivering supplies and materials for
the game.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
That's crazy. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
So it may not be worth it in the grand
scheme of things. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, and learned another thing today that I didn't know before. Um, Okay,
what else do we have, oh, sponsors, unless you have
anything else. I've done something called Gamebridge super League. I
don't know what that has to do with Gamebridge, but
it does. Cambridge super League is going to be on
the number seven car of Justin Haley at Richmond next week,

(57:50):
not this week, um but as I wait for my
thing to load again, ummm. There are a lot of
paint schemes this week, and we'll get into paint schame
preview here in a minute, but there weren't too many
that were listed as announcements. You do have sugar Lands
and Field and Stream on the number ten Tai Dylan
car at Vegas, and I was like, Field and Stream,

(58:10):
what is this nineteen thirty five? Apparently Field and Stream
is back. It was purchased by like whatever, those those
country stars everybody likes now more like Morgan Wallen and
like somebody else at Eric Church. I think I think
it's Morrigowall and Eric Church. Don't quote me on that,
but I think they bought Field and Stream and they're

(58:31):
like making like magazines and stuff again, and so they're
going to be on the Tai Dylan car at Vegas.
The Evil CANEVL Museum who knew is going to be
on the fifty one Cody war Car at Watkins Glen.
That museum is in Las Vegas, which actually does make sense.
And then I'm being told I've got some breaking news

(58:51):
that Fly Alliance is on the number seventy one Michael
mcdalcar at Daytona and Vegas.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Congratulations of the Fly Alliance.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, oh oh they are, so I did look that up.
It is some sort of like private jet thing, like
like you can you can like buy like you basically
buy a membership and then it allows you access to
people to fly on private jets places when they're not
being used otherwise. So it's like it's it's like Uber

(59:20):
for private jets.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I guess, yeah, yeah, congrats. I don't know who. That's
marketed towards.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Rich people, which is makes it doubly weird that they're
going to not just be on a cup car, but
they're going to be on the Michael McDowell car, which
is probably not going to be seen too much at
Las Vegas, but it might be seeing Daytona.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I wonder if there's someone someone inspired doesn't have an
investment in that, and there's like, well, just lap it
old car.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah maybe maybe charter flights tailored toward your schedule worldwide?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Is what fly? It's his website, someone else's schedule. Well,
this doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
No membership fees. Wow, your hidden fees. That means it
must just be expensive as poop?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
May I enjoying how much?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
No membership fees? But you can get a jet card
which is a membership cool?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Is it art Monk?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Oh my gosh? I hope Art Monk is part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
That'd be a jet card that I would want.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah, exactly, your exclusive How do I do this?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Whoa?

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Oh my, oh wow, oh oh wow? Okay, why are
they advertising a NASCAR? So?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Is it like a forty grand? So?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Here, here are your tears. Here are the membership levels.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
That's not the ones that are streaming down your face.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
They operate in all in pricing, and so these prices
are inclusive of fuel and fut whatever the hell. FUT
is just your light jet, and your light jet is
something called a Hawker four hundred XP A next to
four hundred XTI or a Citation Jet three. Your hourly rate,
oh hardly seven six hundred and fifty dollars. If you

(01:01:00):
if you want to block off twenty five hours, if
you want to just purchase twenty five hours you can
use whenever you want, that'll set you back a paltry
one ninety one two fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
What's the math on that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
And then then they they go up to mid size jet,
super mid size, super mid sized jet, nine plus seats,
heavy jet, and then ultra long range. I'll bore you
the details, and we'll just jump straight to ultra long range,
which will be something called a Global Express whatever that is,
or a gulf Stream V five fifty. They don't have

(01:01:35):
like a G six on their G five on here
that that will set you back for one hour, sixteen
nine five dollars sixteen nine oh five. And if you
want to buy a block of twenty five hours, break
out the checkbook or just punk down the black card,
because that's going to be four twenty two six two five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
All right, So what is the number for the less expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
One seventy six fifty for your light jet? Okay, and
then your twenty five hours would be uh one ninety
one two fifty one fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
You said, and you said the initial cost was seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Six fifty seventy six to fifty n hour.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah, yeah, guess what the twenty five hours there's no discount.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
They don't even give you a discount. What the hell.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
No, they're literally just telling you, hey, if you have
purchase five hours, this is the cause.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Wait, well we'll spare you getting out your calculator.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Essentially. Oh my, I'm like that seems like it's probably
on par with what it Yeah, you give me this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
A golf Stream G five fifty isn't even that big
of a plane, Like it's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Well it's a private plane. Dog Like it's just you
and like maybe two other people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I guess, Wow, Okay, a ten year old G five
fifty valued it twenty eight million a year before somewhere around.
I can't can't tell you exactly how much these things cost,
but yeah, yeah, interesting. So so you're talking like you know, oh,

(01:03:06):
it was one of those things brand new, was forty
five million dollars, but they stopped making them in twenty
twenty one. But they were a forty five million dollars
plane when they were brand new. So I guess that's
why it costs for the gulf Stream sixteen nine hundred
and five dollars an hour. What like, who are they
reaching on Michael McDowell's car. That is a very good question.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
No one. That's why I think it's someone Inspire who
has an investment. It's like, we got to get worth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's probably trade right. They probably were like, oh, we'll
put you in the car and then you give us
some free plane flights for our drivers and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, quid pro quoil.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yeah, exactly. It's got to be. It's got to be.
What else would it be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
It is the only it's the only thing that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, yeah, there's because it does. Does that company very
little good to be on that car except that we
just looked it up. But of course, you know, I
could save up my entire life and not be able
to afford a twenty five hour block on one of
those planes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, non delta, you can get miles, So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Just do exactly exactly. I'll just buy first class ticket.
It's way cheaper, yeah, exactly, And I can't even I
can't afford.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
That, so not by enough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Oh man, all right, so uh Watkins Glenn Doug Lenn,
I think Glenn, I think I think is what its
formal name is is the Glenn what how many how
many people do we have to forty? Really? Who are
extra people?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Uh? So we got Riley herps is gonna jj jj
m y Racing is here. Yeah, they got the Syracuse Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
That's the Syracuse car all right, right on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
We got a Josh Blicky. Oh oh wow, Blicky sighting,
we got it. We got a Catherine leg Oh nice
showing up. We got Connor Zelic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Oh, Connor Zelich. Oh, that'll be interesting. I will enjoy
watching him, seeing how he's going to do there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
So forty for forty and we're ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yeah, which takes the only good thing on thatscar dot com,
which it's subsequently ruined. And then they medica for a while,
and now it's it's not that we have eighty four
eighty four paint schemes to choose from, actually really eighty three,
because that first one is just like the title, tile
eighty three paint schemes to choose from, and there is
also truck so eighty one paint schemes to choose from.

(01:05:25):
In those eighty one, can you find three that stand
out to you as being pretty cool?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
There's one that is my definite winner.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Oh yeah, I think I know which one this is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And it's because the only elected representative that I appreciate
is on this car. Oh, the only elected representative in
this era that we have right now I respect and
honestly would give my vote to Bailey Zimmerman close and

(01:05:57):
that's Mayor mccheese. Oh, yes, of course the McDonald landcar. Yes, yes,
the bubble Wallace is going to be Did I not
pick up on that right away? The only elected representative
that I will get I would take a bullet for
on that one. I shouldn't take a bullet for, because
Officer Big Mac should be on a damn the damn case.

(01:06:20):
But you know, that was my favorite bit on the
Clerk's animated shows. They actually had somebody as Merri mc
cheese and Officer Big Mac like I was also going
to I was going to a Halloween party and had
to make this press conference. It's just ironic that I'm
the mayor and also dressing up as Mary mc cheese.

(01:06:41):
The second one that I have r I P. Hall
Coogan not going to pick that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I can't believe that I thought that did that not
go away? When when that happened, I guess not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Well, no that I think the beer still still stands.
I think I think it's just hot dog hot dog
water tasting. Ye, give me the number seventy one of
the title sponsored go Bowling. Got to do with a
nice way again, another killer killer thing they had there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
They always do a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah, I look at the Bailey Zemerman car, but it's
just like that's another that's another country guy that's trying
to do a bar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Is that who that is?

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah? I guess I get it's a country guy, but
they have like a bar on the corner. I guess there. Oh, okay, right,
I don't know if that's his, that's his. Probably that's
his what you been jigger? His title the title of
his album, I guess or something. Yeah, I don't know.
He's probably said the N word with the hard art
on ironically, like you can say it ironically. What am

(01:07:38):
I talking about? Give me give me the number twenty
four overplay car. It's got a cat jumping off the
side of cas Growl in the X division.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Even even if that company, Yeah, you gotta go with
the X version of that because it does have the cat. Yeah,
even though that that software, that platform literally does nothing.
I don't even understand their business model for that, Like
like there's looking at their demonstration, Like you can't find
a demonstration on the internet. I looked for it the
first time that we talked about overplay and UH, and

(01:08:10):
I don't think anybody is even allowed to use it.
I don't think it does anything.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Interesting, not saying it's a scam. I'm just saying that,
I just don't think it does anything.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, probiot scam. Probably a scam. All right, what do
you get?

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Oh that was your third that's right, Okay, So I
am gonna go. Yeah, this is a tough one. So
in the I'm debating between two different orange cars and
I think that I'm gonna go with I think I'm

(01:08:49):
gonna go with s Fiji and the number nine in
the Xfinity series, the Koboda Orange and black.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
One scrolled up one there. I was still down the truck.
I like the Grady that's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yeah, I was trying to decide between that one and
the UH and the eighty eight, the Connor Zilich the
Registers car, because I would has like random UH looks
like a random two headed horse on it, and it's
also orange, but instead of want a three headed horse, sir,
Oh is it three? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
There's a third one that looks like being blocked by
the contingency sponsors.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha. That's what you need is a
three headed horse, for it's Cerberus, but a horse all matters. Yeah,
So go with that one, and then let me bounce
up to the Cup series here, dude, I might have

(01:09:44):
to pick one out of each series here. I thought
there was one that I liked in here. Give me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Give me a W that's a nice car.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
No Gregson car like the old school with a with
a in W. And then I will I'll bounce down
to the truck series and give a shout out to
Tony Brideger in the number five David Busters truck.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Yes, the the daven Busters, which is if Chuck E.
Cheese banged a buffalo wild wings exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
There is a David Busters here. Now I have not
gone in. I've been told that it is a very
small Dave and Busters. I didn't know that there were
small Dave and Busters, but apparently there is open recently,
I guess. And since I'm over the age of eighteen,
I don't go into Dave and Busters.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
No, and you're not in the age range of eighteen
to twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
No, no, oh, man, crap, I forgot about the watermelon truck.
I mean, I was stuck with what I got. But
shout out to the watermelon truck man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, it's been done though in one of those things.
It's nice to see, but it's like we've been here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Yeah, that's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
You get it. We're all you own it, we get it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yeah, you're gonna break break a watermelon if you win.
Is he driving? He driving that truck? Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, you're not the underdog anymore. Dog exactly. It's not
and it's not even like it's it's a watermelon car,
but it's for traffic, traffic safety in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
That's really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, that's really weird because it's not the watermelon sponsored
by watermelons.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, he's just like, hey, guys, you know what, you're great.
I'll do traffic safety for you guys, but I'm keeping
the watermelon. They're like, well, what, what, what's the point.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
It is hard to be the underdog when you've got
the bush like car in the Cup Series.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
So it's hard to be the underdog when you win
all the time now and like the truck Series and
that's your watermelon bust all the time now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, So then we get to the bats and I'm
very upset. I'll tell you why. I'm very upset because
at first I thought Brad Keselaski was going to win
this race and make me look like a freaking genius.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Right, yeah, you were doubting yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
So that was the first thing I was upset about.
And then for a minute I was happy because I
was like, yeah, I at least picked him the rum well,
and he's running well. Then I got angry because I
saw Ryan Blaney and he was he was gaming and
gaining again. He gets right behind Brad Keselowski and then
he can't make the pass, and I'm like, no, you idiot, Ryan,

(01:12:08):
what is wrong with you? Because I realized that not
only did Brad Keselowski not win the race, right, but
that by Ryan Blaney not passing him on the final lap,
then that means that I won the bet, which means
I don't get first pick for Watkins Glen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
A shame. It's damn shame, man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Like, if I'm not gonna win the race, I might
as well lose the bet because you know, it's a
road course.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Hell else, it's tough. It's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
So yeah, so I won that one. I don't know
who won this I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Bet though you did. Uh the longest home run that uh?
Oh was? It was Eli White had too on the
Sunday matchup for the Braves. Uh four thirteen?

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Oh nice, it was almost there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah, you fight, you're just five under. Yeah, that's not
well off my pace, thirty nine more than I thought.
I thought there would be a little more carry well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Yeah, and then of course when you have the rain,
that means really humid and that helps all not carry.
So how could you have predicted that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
You know, and the balls are probably water logged too. Yeah,
that's true, that's true. It happens. I'm not too concerned. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
So that means that you, sir, get the entire field
for the glen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
All right. So you get the entire field, right, and
you know, you look at it road course right of course,
of course, of course, of course, of course. And I
think you look, you look at the grand scheme of things.
What has happened here so far? What have we done
so far? This year on road courses, it's just been

(01:13:49):
azzy Oi Oi except for Coda, except for codap. You
know what, I'm a big I'm a big fan of
you know, I'm a big fan of sandwiches. Big sandwich guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Jimmy Spencer. You're taking Jimmy Spencer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
It's how it's Hogy Palooza at the wah wah. So
I think SVG is gonna sandwich his road course season
in the regular season with a non win. So I'm
not even gonna think about picking shame and getting interesting.

(01:14:28):
You can take it, take it, take it all you want, dog,
I don't care. The guy I'm gonna pick mhm is
a guy I think that we all see coming. We
all we all knew this was gonna happen this way.
It's all gonna end like this. It's Chase Elliott. Okay,

(01:14:49):
it's Chase Selliot. It's always gonna end like that. It's
always gonna be It's always gonna be Chase Elliott. Gonna
be Chase Elliott. Do I notice that's here? God no,
but it's always gonna be Chase.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I have his stats in front of me, and you
have not chosen poorly. He has two wins in eight
races he has two wins, so he's won twenty five
percent of his races. He's run here top five's four,
so fifty percent of the time he's top five, four
top ten. So he's only ever had either a top
five or a win. And his average start eight point one,

(01:15:22):
his average finish ten point six.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
And he always has two down races before a big race,
so I think he's had two down races mid races
at Indian in Iowa. So it's a time for him
to have a bank. He has not finished below twentieth
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
That's crazy, that is that's why he's up there in
the points. Not paid, but he's up there in the points.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Yeah, So it's a it's gonna be a nice a
nice day, a nice day for mister Chase.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
At So I've got like a bit of a quandary
here because because SVG is still on the board, you've
got a guy like a j Allmendinger, who who has
great stats here sure and has a win here himself.
But then you've also got guys that are running really well,

(01:16:14):
like Chestprisco, Tyler Reddi could always pop his head up
at a place like this, Kyle Larson would be a
fantastic pick. Yeah, and that makes it tough. Mm hmm,
But I gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Go, s Fiji, Sure, I understand, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I mean I don't want to like I think that
one of those other guys probably is got a better
chance of winning, But I got to play the percentages
on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Not why wouldn't you? I mean he won three damn
road course races this year. Well what could you want? So?

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
But but what I don't know is what might be
a good side bet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Well, here's the thing, like ten open cars, Yeah, no, Gregson,
Bubba Wallace, Todd uh Gill and Riley Herb, Zane Smith,
J J. Tyler, Reddick, Josh Blakey, Catherine Lake, Connor's Village.
Who you got? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Out of the open cars?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Who you got.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
For me? This one's pretty easy. I go Reddick in that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, that's understandable.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Although Bubba's running really well right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Now, he is, but he doesn't necessarily have the best
I don't think he has a great road course document.
I cane, you wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
The the risky play here, but the one that could
pay off big is that Connor Village pick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yeah, and I'm thinking that. I'm thinking, I'm thinking of
Zilly as the kids call him. I don't know if
they do or not. I think they do, and they might. God,
let me check this one, stare, because I mean the
open cars are I mean, who the hell knows? Because
the open cars, I mean, you have two decent ones

(01:18:14):
and then you have ones that are just like right
right right right, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
much about this fella. God. You know what, man, I'm
feeling frisky. I I haven't been I haven't been great
this year in the side of bets, and that's fine.
I can own up to it. But I'm gonna go
a little bit off off the reserve here. Nah. Close,

(01:18:40):
Gimuzine Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Oh, okay, give me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Zane Smith finished fifth Yere last year in Aspire car.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Oh. Really interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
So I mean, has the has the ability?

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
So I mean, let's let's let's call let's call it
what it is. Of course that's only after one race, right,
it was a fifth? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Yeah, yeah. If if you had gone first and take
him Reddick, I would have probably either gone Wallace or
maybe I would have taken a flyer on Zillig.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah, kids. Kids, got a lot of confidence right now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Oh for sure, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yeah, yeah, I should appear. I should have becounter Zilichi
win the whole thing. That would have been hilarious. It
had been great.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
You want to want to have doubled up?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I know, right, Yeah, give me Zilich and Zilich, give
me the law firm of Zillius and Zilla exactly. Plus
he's got the red Bull car.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yeah. All the ponds and cars they look nice, they
do all right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
So to recap in the race, I have SVG. You
have Chase Elliott for the side bet of all the
open cars, I'm taking Tyler Reddick. You are taking Zane Smith.
If you want to find out who wins the race,
who wins the bet, who wins the side bet, and
whether it was any good or not because it's based
on the stats, you are not watching. Come back next

(01:20:03):
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That song I do definitely remember in the Draft.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Show dot com it's a website, small pictures.

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Still, what the hell? It's not that way on my
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Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Little guy with the Chase Crisco so frustrated. But that's fine.
If you don't want to go to a website, because
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Please?

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What's his name? From the sixty two car Oh Brendon gone,
Brendon gone. You heard this boy about that? And be like,
man were talking about practice. I'm like, yeah, that's Friday Amazon.
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(01:21:18):
some history lessons for you on this August eighth, eight
eight okay two and twentieth day of the year. All right,
kind of crazy this day. In UH fifteen eighty five,
John Davis enters the Cumberland Sound in search of the
Northwest Passage. Did not know the Garfield creator did that?

(01:21:38):
Congratulates to him Garfield. Drop of the show, folks, so
if you had the overrate. Seventeen ninety four, Joseph will
Be leads an expedition to the search for the Northwest
Passage near Juno, Alaska. A lot of northwest past.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Everybody with the Northwest Passage? What the heck?

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Enough about the Northwest Passage. In eighteen forty for the
Quorum of Twelve Apostles headed by Brigham Young is reaffirmed
as Leading Bonnie of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter day Saints. Why you why everybody? Eighteen seventy six,
Tom Cedizen receives the patent for the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Mimeograph oh Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Which is a low cost duplicating machine with forced ink
through a stencil.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
See what you should have done is you should have
said it and then set it again.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Sure well I would have said it, but I would
have mined it out and it doesn't work for real?

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Oh gotcha? Got you got you gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yeah. Years prior, in eighteen sixty three, General Robert E.
Lee sends a letter of resignation to Jefferson Davis after
the defeat at the Battle of Gettysburg. He's like, I'm
out just Jefferson Davis said, no, you can't do that though.
If we're all going down.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Sadly, you can't just bail now, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Coward Wilbur right this day in nineteen oh eight makes
his first flight at a racecourse at Leamon. Oh wow,
first public flight by the Right brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Oh interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Nineteen twenty nine, the airship graft Zeppelin begins a round
the world flight and you know it's the same same
time as the Stairway to Heaven all the way through. Nice. Yeah,
for sure what we got here. The first flight of
the nuclear capability, the Convoy B thirty six, is produced,

(01:23:28):
So there you go. Congratulations to that back in nineteen
forty six. It was a year after all that ish happened.
Nineteen sixty nine, at the Zebra Crossing in London, photographer
Ian McMillan takes the iconic photo that becomes the Comer
riveragion of have You Road?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Oh nice Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Nineteen seventy four, Richard Nixon, another trader, announces his resignation
from the Office of the United States a crook, and
then that one they had to accept eighty eight the
first night game at riley Field.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I remember when that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
The game was rained out in the fourth any though,
so they're just like, I would never do this again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
I do remember. It was like a huge controversy that
they were putting up those lights.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Yeah. Crazy. Another Chicago tragedy this day in two thousand
and four. Do you remember this day? Two thousand and
four and four?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Know what happened? In August in Chicago in two thousand and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Four, the tour bus belonging to Dave Matthews Band dumps
approximately eight hundred pounds of human waste onto a boat
full of passengers.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
They dumped it while they were going over a bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yep. Oh, no, there's a plaque there commemorating that same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Oh no, there's some plaque on the bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I think there is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Yeah, who put it there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
I hope it was the city.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Oh that is hilarious, dude, I mean not for those people,
but it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Yeah, it's kind of funny. All the same twenty eight
to twenty ninth Modern Summer Olympiad started started taking place
in Beijing, China. Oh okay, all right, right, congratulations to them.
That one's bad. That one's bad. That one's bad. That
was bad. On this day in two thousand and one,
we'll jump back to that, a really mediocre hockey podcast

(01:25:29):
started called The Face Off. Oh right on, there you go,
twenty four goddamn years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Look at all the Look at all the money we have.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
That's that's crazy. So you guys have to at least
keep it up for three hundred and sixty five more
days because you would have been doing the show for
a quarter of a century.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Dude. They make pills for that, now, I get it.
But you're only supposed to last three hours.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
That's crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Yeah, So have that going for is hey, happy birthday
this day in sixteen oh five to see so Calvert,
second baron Baltimore, nice proprietor of Merlin.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
He's got his own county too, And he's on the flag.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
That's the that's wait, that's that's the cross.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Yeah, that's the red and the white portion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Yeah. Yeah. He was also the governor of Newfoundland. Oh,
I didn't know that, So there you go. So shout out,
Cecil Calvert. You you're the man there, hon.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
And there's also there's a Cecil County and a Calvary County.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Yeah, two for both. Yeah, but there's the exact opposite
to the state of the state. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
And then there's a Baltimore County. But I don't know
if there's a Lord County. I don't think there's a
Lord county. So you can have Lord Baltimore that way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Well, they'll never be royals.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
But I don't know. I don't know what Baltimore's first
name was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Oh, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Yeah, Steve Baltimore. People don't know that, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Wa, I didn't know that Cecil Calvert, Cecilius Calvert, he
was Lord Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Yeah, I thought that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I thought there were two different people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Man Finklas Einhorn, he just figured it out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Yeah, we're sorry, Baron Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Aaron Baltimore barrying out. That's mixed fun. The fact you
learned on the show enjoy Watkins, Glenn. We know you're
not gonna watch it, so we'll come back to this
on the weekend. It will be a great time for everybody.
We'll all be surprised by the outcome, so tune in
and all that other fun stuff until then

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Thanks for listening to In the Draft with Wilson and
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