Small Team Drama Returns, Darlington Throwback Race

Denny wins Martinsville, Erik Jones gets DQ'ed, while Legacy and RWR start throwin' bows in court with the return of Small Team Drama. Plus - NASCAR contradicts itself on the monopoly situation, and our Paint Scheme Preview and Picks for the Darlington Throwback race.

The Rundown:

- Martinsville looks like an intermediate track race
- EJ gets DQ'ed
- Martinsville ratings, Cup standings
- NASCAR News
- Small Team Drama! Legacy sues RWR
- Every Steve gets promoted
- NASCAR wants to have a commissioner and be a league, but also won't admit that they have a monopoly
- NASCAR fans are about to figure out how tarriffs work with diecasts
- Prime Video taking another shot at a NASCAR documentary
- All Star Schedule released
- Sponsor news
- Darlington Throwback Race! Our Paing Scheme Preview and Picks

Find the latest episodes at InTheDraftShow.com, follow on Twitter and Instagram @InTheDraftShow – and like the show on Facebook at facebook.com/InTheDraftShow

Thanks for listening!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
This time smoking like hell now coming down, I don't
know anything and.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome everyone to in the draft with Wilson and was
I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile right across
here from your beautiful studio by the Bay, version two
point zero. It is what mister Scottie was what's timing?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
There was man, I don't know, man sounding a little sound,
a little little uh, you know, froggy there.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm just trying out my new voice. Yeah, yeah, well
a little under the weather. But that's okay. We're gonna
make it through.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it is not what's talking
about that boring Martinsville Race. I know, boring as Martinsville Race.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I mean you know it. Well, yeah it was boring.
I mean fans are but the bad Yeah, there weren't
a lot of people there. Uh, there were some people watching.
We'll talk about that in a minute. But Denny Hamler Man,
he took over like early in stage two, and then
that was just it.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, kind of checked out from there.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Like every restart you had like a tiny bit of
jocking for a Martinsville race. It was surprisingly like any
intermedia track where the guy who was up front gets
a jump on the field and then that's kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
And then yeah, these cars, I don't know what's wrong
with these cars, man.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah. Two hundred and seventy four out of four under laps,
that's how many Denny Hamlin won. And you know, we've
said it before on the show, and I'll say it again.
It is amazing how many times they can change these
cars and make them into something different that's supposed to
drastically improve or change or fix the racing, and it's
it's always the same. So why not just stick with
the same thing for a long time and let these
guys start to figure it out a little bit instead

(01:49):
of constantly changing in search of something different that you're
never going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Because it's it's the it's chasing the dragon, man, it's
always chasing that dragon. I guess it's chasing something that
you can't achieve and they know they can't achieve it
by they're trying, God damn it.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah. So the only good part about this Denny Hamlin
winning is that I believe I won the bet. I
think I think yeah, yeah, I think I think I
had Chase elly in that one. I was like, oh, well,
at least I got something there.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, it's something.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And at one point Chase was up there like trying
to battle for the for the lead. But then yeah,
he just got dropped back a couple of cars and
that's all you needed, and that was it. I I
do want to point out, even though I don't have
him here in the notes, the Bubba Wallace now that
he's actually finishing races doing quite well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
looking good. I don't have his stats in front of me,
but yeah, but I mean I could bring up the

(02:40):
stats real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's see from from last week. Yeah, yeah, it's third place.
Last week started eighth. Yeah, he finished third in in
one of the stages but didn't leal lap. So consistency
is there. I mean the cars are starting to get
to turn in for that twenty three eleven squat side
of the Yeah, so I mean there's something, there's something

(03:03):
to it. But I mean, I don't know. I need
to win out of Bubba. I need to win out
a Bubba before we get to the six hundred.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, I think that's what he wants to I mean,
he's always his own worst critic, but I still think
that he and Joey Logano both kind of had the
same problem this year where they've been fast, but they
keep running into issues and then you know, like you said,
Bubba third this week. He was third last week. The
only other race where he didn't have any major issues

(03:29):
he was ninth in Atlanta. But that's how that's all
finishes outside the top twenty, because he will run into
problems places, and Joey Lgana has been doing the same thing.
He's been fast and he just keeps running into problems.
I don't have his stats in front of me, although
I could probably bring him up here.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Everybody else too, Simon.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Well, actually, you know what I say that Joey is
he ran into problems with Daytona and then in Austin
the Ticket of America's But yeah, other than that, he's
been like hanging in the teens. He finished daith in Martinsville,
so we recovered from he got in something early on
in the race and then then he came back from it.
So there you go. The Penske cars, I never found

(04:07):
out what the issue was long term with them, but
both Austin Cindric and Josh Berry at the same time
had battery problems, and then one of those two guys
ultimately ran out of batteries and had to retire from
the race. And I don't understand why Penske was having
such a basic issue affect their cars. It was Cindric

(04:28):
that I ended up running out of batteries and he
finished thirty seventh in this one.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, Yeah, that's only because Eric Jones got decued. But
I mean it's just one of those things that you
you kind of half expect during the season. I mean,
they're shaking the things out at least in the early
going and then and then trying to figure it out
from there. But at the same time that's kind of
I mean, with with that and the engine engine blowing,
I mean, there's something there's something amiss with the hookups

(04:52):
and the Penzke side of things.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But but you know what will happen. It's at the
end of the year, they'll suddenly all start racing well
and then one or more of them will make it
to the final race.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well yeah, sure, no, obviously, well obviously it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, Like you mentioned, Eric Jones was disqualified after this
when he failed to make minimum weight the interesting part
here is at Legacy Motor Club looked at all the
evidence and they were like, you know what, we have
to up. We thought we were going to be in
a place where we make weight at the end. We
miscalculated and we didn't make weight at the end. So
maybe they thought they would have more weight in the
gas or more feeling the gas tank at the end

(05:24):
than they really had or something like that. They're not
going to appeal.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
No, no, nor should they. I mean, they're just like, yeah, no,
we kind of because that's a process that we hit
saw earlier this year too, where so I can't remember
who didn't make weight, but it's just like they go
through it three times and they're just like, ah, you
got us. Yeah, yeah, not what you can do on that.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So, I mean, but the upside there is that Eric
Jones probably wasn't going to make the playoffs anyway. So
there you go. U For the first time this year,
the driver who got the fastest lap bonus also was
the lap leader in Denny Hamlin and the guy who
won the race. So I guess this one makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, that's actually it actually worked out in everyone's favorite
this time.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, so you know, two. I think the last two
of made sense. So two out of seven that made
sense so far.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, I mean, well listen, I mean we're getting there,
kind of Hall of Fame s numbers, we're getting there.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, right. Ratings for this one a little bit
up two point four to two million on FS one. Now,
they made a big deal about this on social media.
They're like, hey, we're up eleven percent, But when you
look at the numbers, they they're right about that. But
last year's number was two point one nine million on
FS one. So I mean, I can't do that math
in my head. But what it's a little over two

(06:38):
hundred thousand people, I guess yea yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
The stranges, man, that's you make the things look good
in the percentages.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I guess. I don't know. My computer's being very slow
today too. And it's not the slow computer, it's the
fast computer that's been kind of slow today.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh oh good.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, but that's two hundred and thirty thousand. So and
this is the this is the problem from We can
talk more about this when we get to all the
Steves getting promoted. This is the problem with like now
as opposed to ten or fifteen years ago. Like ten
or fifteen years ago, this race being up eleven percent,
I mean you be talking like an extra million people almost, right,

(07:16):
and instead that eleven percent is two hundred and thirty thousand. Yeah,
and so it's something, but it's not all that much.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
No, it's not all that jazz. But at the same time,
I think it's kind of it's worth it. It's worth
it to promote it. Me for a Martinsville race that's
not too shabby, I guess. And it's not just up
in the cups, it's up across the board too. I mean,
this move to the CW has been the greatest thing
the Xpenity series has had.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well yeah, I mean yeah, I won't argue the Exfinity
series because again, you're you're gonna be on network TV
at that point. It's not the most common network TV,
but it's network TV.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You want.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
This two point four or two million is just a
little bit above the whole average that they were pimping
like a couple of weeks back. And what we don't
know yet is if we're still in that Daytona effect. Right,
it is up from last year, but is there still
that carryover that's happening? You know what point are we
going to dip below that number and then we're gonna
start seeing negatives as I knock my phone off the table.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, I mean it's bound to even out, right, So
sooner or later we'll get we'll get some some evening
out and all that jazz. But I mean, at this time,
pick the victories where you can, especially with f S one,
because F S one is not even even with the cables,
not the most well known where the hell it's at station.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I will say this, I would much rather see the
numbers be flat on FS one, but see more people
in the stands than what we're getting.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, you're not gonna get that anymore, man, Not with
the tariffs, I get.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, with the terrorfs you can't buy souvenirs anymore. We'll
talk about that later too. Yeah, boy howdy, But yeah,
I mean, I would much rather see more people in
the seats and have the numbers be flat than have
the numbers be up and have like nobody at the race,
because obviously, the more butts in the seats is better
for the sport in general, because the crowd attracts a crowd.
The more viewers just helps these networks who are just

(09:06):
like you know, telling us things are awesome when they're not.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
H It's the illusion. It's the illusion of greatness. That's
what I do every week here on the show, the
illusion of greatness.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, it would be a better illusion if there were
some masses in the seats in Martinsville. I'll tell you
that right now.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
But yah eh, I mean I'm touching go with that
because I don't think. I don't think live attendance they
care about that.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, no, NASCAR doesn't because he got the TV money
coming in, so.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Why focus on that.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
But I think it's a sign of the health of
the sport if people are actually coming and paying to see,
you know, the harder money to see what you're doing,
and they're not.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
But I think again, this goes back to people not
having the money and stuff costing a whole lot more.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, I know, they got to do something about that.
They have to make the product more compelling and they
have to lower the costs.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, it's not even that, I mean everything else around.
I mean, what are we gonna do. We're gonna spend
money on groceries or I'm gonna go see a boring
ass Martinsville rate Well.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's what I'm saying. They gotta make a more compelling
product orre they going to bring the prices down or both?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, you can't. I think you can't either. I mean,
but I think my I don't think people are gonna
look at even big. I think you're gonna see baseball
numbers down too. You're gonna see a lot of sporting
event numbers and entertainment numbers down because of everything that's
going on in the world.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
So then I get that. But if like, like if
the place is half full, which is what we've kind
of been seeing as places are half full, if they
got the ticket prices in half and because of that
to fill up the place, then they're still making the
same amount of money, but they got a full stadium.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, but what optics is that? I mean, for optics,
it's good, but yeah, you can help over but the
TV rating down because people aren't sitting in front of
their TV.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
With the percentages we're talking about here, Yeah, it probably
would make a difference.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, make a huge difference. So I think that that
they they worry about the rating number rather than the
sea of course they're getting. They're getting the bigger money
on that end, So why change anything if you're getting
the TV number for the advertise.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's just proof their priorities are backwards.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, their priorities are starting to come
backwards because it's more profitable this way for whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh yeah, no, they're about bottom line more than they
are about the fan support. For sure. Standings after this one.
William Byron, who finished twenty second in this race, continues
to lead the standings, but he's up by just sixteen
points now over Kyle Larson, who is top five in
the race. Chase Helly, we talked about him a second ago.
He was fourth. On Sunday, he's in third overall. He's

(11:31):
done by thirty two. Christopher Bell, who was runner up
to Denny Hamlin, is thirty five points back in the
standings and fourth, and then Alex Bame and their hunt
rounds out the top five. He is level on points
with Bell. Denny Hamlin is, believe it or not, the
fifth winner of the season after seven races. Christopher Bell
is the only driver with more than one win, and
he's got three and everybody's like, oh my gosh, Christopher

(11:53):
Bell is going to run away with the season. But
obviously no we've got more than just him as a contender.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now, I think it took a while for all these
guys to kind of figure out the season overall and
stuff like that. I mean, just Bell hits a hot streak.
I mean, we've seen it before. It's gonna happen again
too and later in life. But I mean for them
to get off to a good start, I mean, that's
huge for Christophervel even to bull up the lead, but
even then never first in points. So that's the weird
part about the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It is really weird, you know. I Mean, he's fourth
overall and he's got three fricking wins in the first
seven races. Kyle Busch is sixteenth, and so if the
playoffs started today he would be in but hot race
there he's only two points ahead of John Hunter, Nima
Check and aj Allmendinger, three points ahead of Josh Berry,
and four points ahead Ricky Stenhouse Junior. Now, the only

(12:39):
reason I really bring that up because we're so early
in the season. I don't think we can really be
closely looking at the bottom of the top sixteen yet
for a cut line. But just imagine that we were
getting close to the cut line, and Kyle Busch is
just to buy a couple of points over John Henanima,
check the Dinger, Josh Berry and Rickey Stenhouse Junior. I

(12:59):
don't think that that speaks to those four drivers how
well they're doing. I think that just speak reinforces how
badly Kyle Busch is doing right now.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, and I mean RCR kind of got into that
too with.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Where's the quote?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Because I just saw it on Adam Stearn's thing where
their team lead. The president, Mike Verlander said that Richard
Schilders deserves to have a better NASCAR effort. It's not
knock on anybody. They've done a great job weather in
the storm. We just got to focus on returning to
where he deserves.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
They do because they've got the talent. Kyle Busch is
capable of doing it if you give him a good car.
You know. I didn't watch the entire interview, but there
would be because it was a Network one. It was
like a Fox one that they had Kevin Harvick do
with Kyle Busch, and they kind of pimped it. It was
a little clip click baity. The set up for the
article saying that Kyle Busch was going to talk about

(13:47):
something that can't be fixed in NASCAR. And at first
I was like, oh, oh, maybe he's going to like
take a crack at the car or the sport. And
I was like, wait a minute, No, this interview is
on Fox. He's totally not going to do that, and
he wasn't. I listened to the teaser clip at the
beginning and it was him basically bitching about young drivers
running into people, and he's like, Oh, they'd rather wreck
than try to win a race. And so I didn't

(14:11):
listen to the interview because I was like, come on, dude,
everybody said that about you too when you came up.
So now you're just the old grumpy man like yelling
at clouds.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, I mean turnabouts, fair play, right, I.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Guess, well that's what they all do. Man. When these
drivers all come up, they're hot headed, they run into people.
The old guys complained about them, and then ten years
down the line, those hot headed kids are now the
old guys that are complaining about the new hot headed kids.
There is nothing different in that respect. I don't care
what Kyle Busch says. Yes, he's got a ton of experience,
he's gonna be a Hall of Famer. You know, what

(14:41):
he says has weight, But there is literally nothing different
that he's saying about guys like Ross Chastain that people
didn't say about him when he first came up.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Let's be honest, Ross justin not all that young.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
True, but you know any of the young drivers, you know,
any of these kids.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But did you see the Infinity Race?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
That was good timing for that comment? Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah,
that was a cluster.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
What the hell happened there?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
But in general, in general, you know, Kyle Busch is
basically just tilting at windmills the way that people were
in him when he was a.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Rookie, I'm sure exactly. I mean, you turn about fair
play and he's he's in the Swan song as much
as he doesn't want to admit it. And uh yeah,
driving style and everything's all different nowadays.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So is it ironic and strange that Kurt Busch's career
seems to be or sorry, that Kyle Busch's career seems
to be going the exact same way as Kurtz Do
you mean, well, I mean in the sense that Kurt
just kind of strung along with these one offs or
with these like rides that just weren't cars that were
capable of doing more than maybe winning once a year

(15:50):
and getting into the playoffs. And that's kind of where
we are with Kyle. We're like, man, as long as
he can get a win, he can get into the playoffs.
And this is not the Kyle Busch that we were
just talking about. A couple of years ago. They were like,
he's gonna make it into the Championship four. He's gonna
win three or four or five races a year, and
now he's in and it seemed like it was so
different between him and his older brother, and now he

(16:12):
seems to be racing in exactly that same zone as
his older brother was for his last four or five
years of his career.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I mean there's a little bit of the of
crossover there. And I think that you kind of see
when you switch over in your career later on in life.
I mean you see that not a lot of guys
have as much success either.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean I can't think of a guy who switched
like later on in life, uh, you know, in age
wise to a new team and succeeded to the ability
that we thought they could in a previous team right, because.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
More often than not, they're they're not getting a better
car in that team. So that's the case for both
Bush brothers, although to Kurt's benefit at least he helped
develop cars for you know, future guys come in and
do well with.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
And and in Kurt's situation, he was forced to do that.
It wasn't a choice of his. Yeah, he kind of
got forced out of Penske and everything like that, and
then had to work his way back up from the start,
and then had the other thing happen off the track
that got him a little hot water, even though the
woman was lying the entire time. So I mean it's

(17:16):
a little bit of different path that he didn't necessarily
get the Jews, whereas Kyle kind of made the choices
like I don't want to, but he also saw the
writing on the walls like other guys and Gibbs are
gonna be bumped up, so I'm going to be the guy,
the odd man out, especially since eminem Mars left the company.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I would argue that Kurt, though after because of what
he went through, fought harder in those final few years
with the riots that he was given.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh no, absolutely, Then we're seeing out of coyrad.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Now, because remember Kyle came over to RCR and he
won races and then now he can't win crap. And
it's like, I can't imagine that the team fell off
that much. And but but Kurt was, like, like you said,
started from almost from the bottom again and worked his
way up to where he could win a race and
make the playoffs, winn to make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Here's the question. Did Kyle win in spite of the
team potentially, because I mean you look at the car
as the people that were there beforehand. Yeah, and it's
just like, I don't know, I mean that.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Very well could be the case. But then how does
that explain the past two years when he hasn't been
able to win anything, Like he just basically warm himself out.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Maybe he regressed to the mean, yeah, he regressed what
to what the RCR could provide, Like he performed out
of his head in that first you know, the first years,
and then now it's just like, oh, we're RCR racing,
we can barely You saw that with Harvick. I mean
Harvick was barely holding on there for a bit, yeah,
at in there, So.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
You're right, and and yeah, it's probably harder to maintain
that type of intensity that you need to overcome the
limitations of the car when you're thirty nine years old
like he is and be and been asked to do
that for the past three seasons to keep that intensity up,
you know, yeah, exactly, Okay, people, fair enough argument, that's
fair arch.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, and I think also trying to lead that team
for guys who may or may not want to be led.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
True true. So yeah, yeah, all right. So let's move
into some NASCAR news in the wake of Martinsville and
Denny Hamlin's win, starting with I'm gonna call it small
team drama because even though even though Legacy isn't supposed
to be a small team, they pretty much are a
small time team, right and Rickquare Racing definitely is. And
we suddenly have our second excuse me, active NASCAR lawsuit

(19:32):
of the year, this one, Legacy is suing Reckquare Racing.
And I apologize Scotty because in our notes I thought
this was about least initially it's not. So apparently Legacy
was looking to purchase a charter. Rickware Racing said hey,
we'll sell you one. They negotiated, they came to a deal.

(19:52):
They signed a contract on March third, but Legacy says
that Rickware Racing then pulled out of the contract and
they're like, we're gonna suit you. We won our freaking charter, right.
So the weird part about this is that Rickware Racing
hasn't come out and explained the situation directly at All.
They've said officially is that they're basically pissed off at

(20:15):
Legacy and they see this lawsuit as an attempt to
quote tarnish their reputation, and that they're confident they're gonna win. Unofficially,
what sources behind the scenes are saying is that the
deal here is that Rickwaire wanted to sell the charter,
Legacy wanted to buy the charter. Legacy thought that they

(20:36):
were talking about twenty twenty six. Racing thought they were
talking about twenty twenty seven to transfer the charter, and
so I guess when Legacy got their forms, they may
have allegedly crossed out some twenty sevens rowne in some
twenty six has signed it and given it back to them,
and that change in language without notifying them is what

(20:57):
led to Rickware Racing saying no, no, no, This is
not the deal, and that led to the whole thing.
The weird part about this for me is that we're
not talking about a minor detail here, like this is
a major thing. It's not that they wouldn't tell me
where where the party was. Its that they wouldn't tell
me what time the party was. Like, you're gonna ask,

(21:18):
well when are we gonna do this? So how did
neither side know when they were intending to buy and
or sell this charter? That boggles my mind?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
It is It is wild, isn't it. Like it's like like,
how do you not how do you miss three hundred
and sixty five days exactly? How are you not on
the same page on that one where it's just like damn,
you know, and how do you cross that out? And
it's still technically legal?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, and again that is so but and you know
what it made me think of. It made me think
of the charter deals with NASCAR last year before the
playoffs started, where you know, twenty three eleven I Front
Remoter Sports were like, screw you, look at this, this
is crap. But everybody else just blindly sign it, right,
And you're like, how could they all just blindly sign it?

(22:03):
Like they had like twenty four hours or whatever to
read and go over with their lawyers all of these details.
And really what they all did is outside of those
two teams, they're just like, okay, whatever, and they just
autographed it and handed it back without really looking at it.
And you're like, how could they do that? Well, this
is a perfect proof they don't even look at their
deals when they're like making them one on one. So

(22:25):
why would they make why would they pay any extra
attention when the paperwork is being handed to everybody from NASCAR? Like,
it makes me worry about the people behind the scenes
in NASCAR in general, not just with the sport but
with the teams that major details are just going overlooked
for no apparent reason. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, you got to figure how many how many of
these teams have a real legal team aside from just
the guy who went to like law school.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yep, you're probably right, probably yeah, probably not a lot man.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And because I think you they're just like everything should
be cut and dry, I mean, but like they should know,
like especially with sponsorship legalities, I mean they're all over that.
When they don't get paid, yeah I have to pay
somebody else. It's kind of just like, oh no, but
it just like just.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like HANDERK Motorsports with with Elliott and Hooters, you.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Know, yeah, I mean, and that's a I mean, but
that's a bigger team like these smaller teams, though their
legal department could be you know, whatever number they got
off the billboard right outside there.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
You might be right about that. Yeah, it's crazy to
think that like a major detail like that not only
could have started this whole flack, but that it leads
to a lawsuit. Like, just sit down and figure it out, man.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know, you would think you would think you would
think figure it out and not make a hole to
do about it because it's not I mean worth it.
But and again, who knows how long the charge system
is going to be around depending on this lawsuit?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, and yeah exactly if if NASCAR loses, which it
probably will. But you know, even if, like from Rico
Racings perspective, what I'm thinking is that they probably either
had a deal in place to lease that charter to
somebody else next year to make a couple extra bucks
before they sold it, or maybe they had a driver
who was bringing some sponsorship and they were like, oh, well,

(24:15):
we want the sponsorship for a year, we'll put him
in the chartered car and then we'll turn around and
sell it. I mean either way, like, especially for a legacy,
just say, okay, we'll wait until twenty twenty seven and
then save your money. And whoever that driver is you
want to put in the seat, just put him in

(24:36):
the seat outside of Daytona. Where are they even gonna
have a problem making the field anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Let's be honest. I mean, if you lose John Hunter
and Neiman check Er Eric Jones, is that big of
a loss exactly?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, Just just take the charter away from Jones, he's
got the most experience and say you're gonna have to
make races this year. Man. And I know that they
want it for the TV money. I know that's why
they want it. That's why they all want it now,
because you get the extra TV money if you're a
chartered team. But if you're just trying to put a
guy in a car and you got a sponsor for them,
and you know you're gonna get that charter a year
down the road, I mean, i'ven't even looked at the

(25:06):
entry list for Darlington, but I'm pretty damn sure that
it's not forty cars.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Sure isn't, buddy.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, And so just put your people in there and
tell them go out there and do your job for
once and make your way into the race, and then
you'll figure it out. In twenty twenty seven, you'll have
your charter back and your charter money back.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah. I mean it's not that hard.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Just wait, be patient in the sport.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
And actually that really curtails into the next story or
into the to the first comments by one of the
Steves in the next story, because NASCAR also announced this
week that every single Steve they have is getting promoted.
So Steve Phelps is now going to be hair Commisar,

(25:50):
the commissioner of NASCAR, and that's a position that never
even existed before, and they said that he oversees all
aspects of the sport. Meanwhile, he was the president I guess,
I don't know. And then Steve O'Donnell goes from from
CEO to President of NASCAR, which also apparently oversees NASCAR.

(26:13):
So they both oversee NASCAR, they just have slightly different titles.
One is the Premier, one's the Prime Minister, one is
the Trump the other one's the elon I guess, I
don't know. And adding to the complexity here is the
fact that Steve Phelps is on the board, so essentially
he promoted himself and he's going to remain on the board,

(26:33):
so no conflict of interests there. But I believe it
was I believe it was Phelps. Yes, it was Phelps
who went on one of the radio programs, maybe Serius
XM or something like that, and was talking about this
new commissioner position. They're like, oh, well, you know, what's
the deal behind the commissioner and he said, well, we
have to have a commissioner because NASCAR has never had

(26:56):
anything like this before, and all the other sports have commissioners,
and so if we want to be like the stick
in ball sports, we need the same structure. We need
a commissioner. And all I was thinking was, yeah, and
all of the other stick and ball sports have franchises
and they have a freaking players union. But you're going
to court against twenty three eleven an FRM, so you

(27:16):
don't have to have those things. But on the other hand,
you're promoting somebody to a commissioner position and saying you
want to be like stick in ball sports, you can't
have it both ways.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
And other stick and ball sports commissioners are the best
interests of the owners, yeah, true to which they're not
the best.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
They're not in the best interest of the team owners.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
No.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, if you really want a commissioner league structure, and
he even mentioned the word league, it's not a league. Well,
to be a league, you have to have a a
specific number of franchises. The NBA doesn't have teams that
just show up one weekend or another in play. You know,
hockey doesn't have an extra team that comes by for
a five race or for a five weekend deal or

(27:57):
anything like that. So you have to have structured teams
with the same number of drivers on every single team.
I would say, but even if I would even give
you some leeway there, but you've got to have an
x number of teams and x number of slots on
the grid that are always filled up by those teams.
And then you've got to have either either you know,

(28:18):
a a unionized system or or a collective bargaining system
for the owners and drivers. Or really, if you want
to have a league, like you just said, you've got
to have a commissioner who is working with the owners
for the interests of the sport as a whole, and
then all of the drivers are then part of the
collective bargaining unit.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
M hm, yeah, I mean you can't. You can't have
a commissioner without him having the best interest to the owners,
because that's that's exactly what a commissioner do. Commissioner answers
to the owners of the of the teams, I mean historically,
and that's how every every league does that because the
owners and the drivers aren't one and one, they're not united.
It's the owners against the players all the single time,

(28:58):
every single damn time.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, for sure. And it's it's crazy that that he's
using words like league and commissioner and he wants to
be like everybody else. And the reason the reason that
there is an NFL Players Association and MLB Players Association,
I don't know what they call the hockey one, what
do they call the hockey one?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Is the players then players associate.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah. The reason that they all have players associations is
because if they didn't, they would all everybody would file
an anti trust suit because they are monopolies. And NASCAR
is in a lawsuit saying they're not a monopoly. While
they're also saying we want to be a league like
everybody else. You it's those two things don't go together.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, it doesn't. It's all just they they just talk
to talk. Yeah, they find buzzwords and other sports. They
find buzzwords and old articles, and at the same time,
it's just like, oh, okay, this sounds like it's a
good thing.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, and then you don't have this bullshit with with
teams like Legacy suing team like rick Ware Racing, because
you can't just sell an entire slot on the grid
without it going through the league, just like the NFL
or the MLB or the AMIHL would.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Right exactly. So I just I just think they're picking
up on buzzwords and they don't know what's going Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, they're never gonna They're never gonna be taken seriously
as a league, whether they name somebody commissioner or not,
They're never gonna be taken seriously as a league. If
entire teams can just show up at random on a
weekend and say I want to be part of your sport,
but I'm gonna give be a part of your sport
for one weekend or two weekends or five weekends and
I'm not gonna run for a championship or I'm not

(30:40):
gonna compete for a championship.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right, It's just kind of just like there, hey guys.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Or or or have you know Lebron James say, well, Lebron,
I don't know what the minor league basketball situation looks like,
but have Lebron James say I feel like playing a
little extra basketball, so I'm gonna go play with this
minor league team, you know, or any baseball player saying, hey,
I'm a day off, I'm gonna go play double a
ball because I just feel like beating up on some kids. Yeah, yeah,

(31:07):
you know you can't do those things and then say
and then be taken seriously as a commissioner league style
system like all of the other.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Sports, right, I just don't know what they're I don't
know what the endgame air is for this.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I don't know either. So but that's what Steve Phelps said,
and I was just like, what the hell did you
realize what you're saying. You're in a lawsuit that you're
arguing the exact opposite of what you're saying right now,
It's crazy freaking Nascar, dude, um oh. And then this
was actually my favorite story of the week because Lionel,
who makes die casts, main announcement that I think is

(31:46):
probably going to shock in dismay a large number of
NASCAR fans who up until now did not truly understand
how tariff's work, which I think is really the majority
of the country at this point, but they're about to
find out, right because Lionel said, we're gonna charge you
and me, just regular old consumers. We're gonna have to

(32:08):
pay us surcharge on all new die casts, and they've
already apparently implemented this on their website. Why because those
die casts are made in China and they're being hit
with huge tariffs on the way into the United States.
And even though the people on TV, certain people on
TV will have you believe that the manufacturing country pays

(32:30):
the tariff. If you didn't believe anybody's argument before that
that's not how it works, then go look at Lionel's
website and that will explain exactly how it works. Because
the company in China is like, hey, we're gonna charge
you ten bucks for each one of these, right, they
were charging ten bucks before the tariffs are charging ten

(32:50):
bucks after the tariffs. It's the US government is saying
when those come into the to go to Lionel's warehouse,
they're like, no, no, no, you got to pay us
an extra five bucks or whatever for each one of
these in tariff costs. And Lionel's not gonna be like, well,
we'll just eat the eat the difference. No, they're going
to charge it to you. And that's exactly what's happening here.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yep. Cars that were sixty four now seventy five.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, and I saw another story that I guess at
least one auto manufacturering Volkswagen is going to charge like
basically a tariff charge and they're kind of like, if
the tariff's go away, we'll take the charge off, but
otherwise you're gonna have to pay this extra charge to
import the car.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
One one sixty four die cast online now or ten
ninety nine?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
What were they before? Do we know?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I think you're like seven wow, Like it's insane the
amount lead the and it's also stuff that's you know,
first off, they're doing the right thing and doing pre
orders that way you get everything there. Yeah, and then
maybe buy extra for stock. But I mean, by and

(33:56):
large there's a lot of stock that's left over.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Well yeah, and that's you're right. That's the other thing
I think we'll probably seem more of when it comes
to stuff like this. Ye are our longer pre order
periods so they so they don't have to order too
many extra because if you know, if they buy five
thousand extra and have to pay the tariff on five
thousand extra and they don't sell them right away, they
eat that cost.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Pre order is the order, Yeah, make it. Pre order
is the order. And there you go.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
So so there you go and ask our fans that
is a quick economy lesson for you, and how trade
tariffs actually do work. Nobody in China paid that thing.
You and I are gonna pay it when we buy
our next die cast.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
And and and remember they are they are, they're tariffing
islands that just have penguins on them because they don't
know how the world works. And you just throw it
into grock and.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
They couldn't even chat. You pt that crap man.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Now you gotta put it into groc because Elon's a
little chrub poster boy can't make a wishers over.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I know, right, hopefully sooner rather than later. Okay, so
Prime Video is back at it again with NASCAR. This
time they are sponsoring Now, they've sponsored cars before, but
this time they're sponsoring Kyle Larson in both the Indy
five hundred and Coke six hundred for his second straight

(35:22):
attempt at the double. They released images of the cars.
By the way, the NASCAR car looks pretty much just
like his regular car.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, not too much change.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
The Indy car, I mean, looks just like the NASCAR car,
but just Indie shaped. And on top of that, Prime
Video is going to do a documentary about Kyle's attempt
to go five hundred miles in Indie and six hundred
miles in Charlotte on the same day. They've employed something

(35:52):
called a Cynthia Hill to work with them. She is
Emmy Award winning but when I looked at her IMDb page,
I hadn't heard of anything she had done. But the
reason I think that they hired her is because she
has worked with both NASCAR and Hendrick Motorsports in the past.
And yes, indeed, this is a production not just of
the Amazon Prime but of NASCAR and Hendrick Motorsports, so

(36:15):
you can assume what the quality is going to be
like here, it'll be very rawra team for both. But
she worked with them before. Have you heard or had
you heard of Road to Race Day?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I hadn't either. It's on Prime Video. I looked it
was there. They did this video in twenty seventeen when
Jimmy Johnson and Dale and Hurt Junior were racing for
Hendrick Motorsports and it was Chase Elliott's rookie season, a
twelve episode series on Hendrick Motorsports. I'm assuming following the
twenty seventeen season then maybe focusing on Chase Elliott because

(36:53):
it was his rookie year. I can't tell you for sure,
because with the Prime membership I have, they were like, oh, yeah,
you can watch this, but it's going to cost you
a dollar ninety nine an episode. And I was like, yeah, no,
if it were free, I would check it out. But
I'm paying two bucks to watch one of these things.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
No, No, it's kind of dumb. Yeah, you already missed it.
I mean, obviously you didn't miss it for the last
eight years. You're not going to miss it anything.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
No, that was a crazy thing. I was like, holy crap.
They did an entire twelve episode documentary and I never
even heard of the damn thing.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Before that tracks. I mean, NASCAR does a great job
of marketing. They're in junk.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, And the disappointing thing here is that this could
be a very compelling story, and who knows, maybe they'll
do a great job. Maybe collectively they'll do a great
job of telling it. I don't have high hopes simply
because that same exact team, like we just said, did
something in twenty seventeen, seven and a half years ago,

(37:46):
and nobody's ever heard of it. And so if nobody's
ever heard of that seven and a half years later,
then I don't have high hopes and anybody will have
remembered or heard of this seven and a half years later.
But who knows, I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Who's to say, I mean, all these weirder you know.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I always say, if you do a documentary series and
it flops, it's not the people's involved fault, it's the
viewer's fault. So just try it all again with the
same team.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Exactly, Blame the viewers exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, it's it's it was it's the it's basically the
the acolyte philosophy. It wasn't our fault. It was crap.
It was your fault. It was crap. So we'll just
keep trying to do the same type of thing over
and over again.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Although I am I the one out of touch. No,
it's the children.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, the children, even though they were smart enough to
cancel that one. Did you watch that one which one
the Acolyte, the Star Wars thing, the Acolyte Brouke and Bradshaw. No, no, no,
this is like one of those HBO wish Oh you
aren't okay, Yeah, no, no. I actually saw a preview

(38:49):
and I was like, very, very excited for it. And
I didn't know when I said, because I'm not in
that whole Star Wars thing. Like it's like, I enjoy
watching some of the shows sometimes, like Babyyoda's cute, I'll
admit that, but but I haven't watched a whole lot
of the newer content that Disney creates. But I saw
a preview for it, and I'm like, oh, hey, that
looks very interesting, not knowing any of the side controversy

(39:12):
with any of the actors actresses involved at all, and
I sat down to watch it. So I was like
the most control audience you could think of somebody who's
a casual viewer of that kind of content and doesn't
know anything about the uh you know, about the backstory
and the fan backlash and everything like that. And I'm
just watching it innocently as as this like you know,

(39:34):
person who's checking it out, and I'm like, holy crap,
this is really really bad. What the hell? I was
expecting this to be so much better?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Sure, yeah, all the Star Wars knowledge I have is
their family guy.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh yeah, there, Oh there is a uh, there's a
very similar thing on YouTube. There's a there's a British
guy that does deep fakes, And that's how I watch
most of the Star Wars content is by watching his
deep fake reactions. Uh he does you and McGregor and
what's his name? That's que Gone and the particular set

(40:08):
of skills guy. Yeah, yeah, Liam Neeson he basically does
them and it's absolutely hilarious. And I've watched so many
Star Wars shows by just watching him make fun of them.
Then I've actually watched the shows.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
And Liam Neeson trailer came out today. Oh, of his
new movie that's coming out August. What's that The Naked Gun? Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
For real? Wait? Is it a remake?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
He is Frank Dreben Junior. Yeah, oh it looks bad.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh no, but it should be bad. It should be bad.
It's that's the whole point.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is that it's no, no, no, no, not that kind
of band.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
No, it's gotta be awesome. Oh I'm I'm holding out hope.
I'm gonna watch that as soon as we're done here,
I'm gonna watch that. Trailer.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Does not look good, dude, it doesn't seem like he's
a bumbling of.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh no, wait, they're not trying to go serious with that,
are they.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I don't have to watch.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Oh no, okay, I'll watch a trailer. Oh no, that's
not good. Look great? Oh man? All right, Well, let's
move on to talk about the All Star Race then,
because we don't have the All Star format yet, although
I can guarantee it's going to be needlessly complex, but
we do have the schedule. And this is very interesting
because NASCAR All Star Weekend at North Wilkesboro is now

(41:26):
going to be shared amongst not just the Cup in
the Truck Series, but Wheeler Modifies, which I think that
they had already said was going to be part of
the weekend YEP. In addition to that, the Cars Tour,
and no, I'm not talking about Lightning McQueen here. Unfortunately,
the Car's tour back in the day, you and I

(41:48):
knew it as the Hooters Pro Cup Series.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Now Hooters is dead.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Now Hooters is dead, and in twenty twenty three, and
I didn't really realize this because I never really paid
too much attention to the Hooters Pro Cup Series. In
twenty twenty three, the series was bought out, not by NASCAR,
but it might as well have been. I was bought
up by Dale Junior, Jeff Burton, Kevin Harvick, and Tracouse Racing.
Three of the four are employed essentially by NASCAR IS Broadcasters,

(42:13):
not directly, but indirectly, sorry to cough there. And so
because people that NASCAR have pretty much control over control
that sport, now NASCAR is suddenly willing to share a
weekend with them. So it appears outwardly like they're less
of a monopoly. Look, there are other racing series, and

(42:34):
we're even letting them race with us because we're so
kind and not monopolistic.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah see, you guys, we can play fair.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah. So it's four day weekend. The first day is
all cars stuff, and every time I say that, I'm
just thinking Lightning McQueen and Mader.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
That's name for a series.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
It really is. On Friday, you get NASCAR practice, you
get the pit crew competition, we don't have details of
that yet, and then the Cars Tour race. Then on
Saturday we get the Truck Series and the NASCAR Heat races,
setting things up for the All Star Race. On Sunday,
we start with wheeling modifieds, and then we go through

(43:16):
the Cup Series, All Star Events, to the Open and
then the All Star Race.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It's decent. You're exposing a different thing to a different
level of people too. I think that's that's good too.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I mean, I really do like the idea of the
modifieds going right before the All Star Race, because then
you're going to get some people that are tuning in
for the All Star Race, so they're going to see
something different and they might really enjoy it. It's really
a good strategy on NASCAR's.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Part there, Oh absolutely. I mean it's not the worst
idea in the world. You have people out there.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So even a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
And let's be honest, if they're already out there, why
the hell not to get him out there anymore.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah, there was a tire test at Michigan on Tuesday.
Chris Bouchure, Todd Gibson, Daniel Suarez were there, so that happened.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
M good for them.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
And then we found out that at Bristol, Josh Blicky
will be back in the garage sixty six car. Thought
they had already announced that he was doing a multi
race deal with them. I don't know manscape is gonna
be on the car. That's that's not this weekend but
next weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, yeah, so there we go.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Outside of that, I just got sponsored news.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Let me see if I got anything here. They're gonna
put a beach authentic beach area at Dover.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Oh really nice.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Six hundred tons of sand. Wow, Okay, beach balls at Arondack, chairs,
vintage cars and green and beach grass.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I didn't know that was something people were asking for,
but okay, maybe they were.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I think Dover's just trying to get more people out
there outside of race weekend. Yeah, that's a that's another
thing there. What else do I have here? NASCAR is
looking for a YouTube strategy and programming manager. Oh really,
you want to get up get it all up on
that you can go and check that out.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I might apply because all I have to do is
just show up to work every day and eventually I'll
get promoted all the way up to senior vice president.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Your name's not Steve, that's true.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'll change my name to Steve though.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
There you go. It's perfect. You love seeing that. What
else here? That's the sponsor one that you're probably gonna
get to. Nothing too crazy out here, aggressive? Oh yeah great,
by the way, great first start for progressive, first race,
first win. Yeah, so I mean, not too not too

(45:32):
shabby at all. So that's all I got. What you
got for me?

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah. I was happy for them because it's, you know,
rare that we get a new sponsor in the sport
that is putting the name on a car for a
lot of races. So for them to get straight to
victory lely and I think is awesome for them. We'll
talk about the Darlington Plion schemes here in a minute,
but Cody ware was one of the people who announced
his it's a war Burton Caterpillar throwback. Will talk about
all the throwbacks coming up here in a second. The

(45:58):
part that annoys me is that out of two series
two Series Racing and Darlington Throwback Weekend. There are only
forty five throwback paint schemes on the Throwback Paint Scheme preview.
Why because people like Castroll in the six car are
not participating, even though they're saying that they are participating.

(46:19):
And the weirdest part about this is that Castrole, of
all the sponsors out there, has tons of old school
awesome paint schemes that they could draw on for a
throwback weekend, and instead they announced that they're doing some
new thing with Brad Kiselowski this weekend, promoting some new
product of theirs with a new paint scheme and some
sort of contest that nobody is ever going to care

(46:40):
about round her.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Well, here's the thing. There's two different paint scheme pages
this week.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh yeah, I haven't looked at the other one.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I'm only looking at the other one is just the
straight up retro paint schemes and where they derived it
from and better views of the car.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I don't even know where the regular paint scheme
one is. I'm only looking at the.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Panel the throwbacks because let's see.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Here, I'll find it here. Paince game review. Oh wait,
know that says throwbacks. Oh oh okay, all right, all right,
they got more here, but okay.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
There's one. There's one one page. It has the throwbacks,
just the actual throwbacks. The other ones just have the
regular pain skiing preview deal.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah, okay, we'll talk about it in a second, because I
want to get too far off track, but I do
have the other one up now. And then Robinhood, Robin
Hood has signed a four race deal with twenty three eleven. Uh.
Interesting deal too because they're starting with Corey haim Heim
Corey Heim the sixty seven car at Kansas, and then
they say they're going to do three subsequent events this

(47:42):
season with the sixty seven and twenty three teams, twenty
three of course being Bubba Wallace. But they don't specify
what three races or which one they're going to be on,
which driver's car.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
That's that's rough.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
It's very strange.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Rough, you know, But so there you go. I guess
I guess that's what you got. All right, So let's
get to the paint scheme preview.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Then as we.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Move on to Darlington this weekend. How many cars we
have in this race?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Thirty eight strange.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I wonder what would have happened had Legacy wanted to
have their charter for this extra charter for this weekend
but they couldn't get it, they would be screwed. Oh wait, no,
they would be in the race. So yeah, so we
move on to the only good thing on NASCAR dot
combo chaps subsequently, bro, and they made it already again.
Now it's somewhere in the middle. They're doing a better job.
They're doing a much better job than they used to,
especially since, like you said, they've gotten the two paint

(48:37):
scheme previews this week, the one where they go into
more in depth detail about the throwback schemes and where
their inspiration came from, which I really I appreciate that.
I appreciate that they did that.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah, I mean I think that that that one's definitely
a solid sell for them.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
But then I see something like like Ross chastaining the
number one car and it looks cool, it's got a
big bass on the side, but there's nothing to throwback
about it, like use that paint scheme next week or
then or the week after that.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Oh no, that's a kind of a retro throwbacks.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I guess it is.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I don't a little bit, not enough, but like and.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Then Bee for retal like before, kind of went retro
by saying we're not gonna put anything on the car.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
But that's not really retro. They just didn't put anything
in the car.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Well, it's a it's a it's a throwback to Dale Junior. Oh, okay,
Dale Junior's first race in ninety six.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I see. So, I mean, I I'm gonna do all
my throwbacks to BK racing where they didn't have a
sponsor and just drive a plane car exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I mean you look at you look at the thirty
four long John Silvers. That wasn't actually a car. It's
made retro, I know, but it looks badass. That's good.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Man. Are well?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Uh you go ahead?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Oh oh wowick schemes, man, I don't even there's so
many shoes from I know, I'm looking through all of
the other Like the Country Crock one looks pretty good,
like a table scheme there. Obviously there's some other throwback
schemes here that don't have stories that go along with them.
And now so I'm going through the rest of them here.

(50:11):
Shout out to Chase Elliott and the number seventeen hundred
cars dot Com Chevrolet in the Xfinity series basically doing nothing.
They've done nothing. They put a slightly retro looking number
on the side and that was it. Okay, I'm almost through,
purple car. Wow, nice purple car. Uh do dude, do
do do? I do take issue with a few like

(50:32):
Sam Meyer and the number forty one, Like I'm not
getting sharpie from that car, even though that's what it's
supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, it's kind of odd.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, But all right, so let me let
me pick some stuff here, because there are I will
give a lot of teams a lot of credit, there
are a lot of fun paint schemes to pick from here.
The readers is speaking to me too, with a big
thing on the side, the big frozen NiFe on the side.
All right, so I'm gonna go with There's one that

(51:02):
I absolutely positively have to pick, And I feel bad
because you probably were gonna pick this one yourself. But
in the Exfinity series, I absolutely have to go with
Daniel Die and the number ten Cali gracing forward. Uh.
The the or Chevy rather the the Adam Petty Tribute scheme.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Looks uh not even in my top three for really.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh man, No, I love that one. I think it's awesome.
I think it did a really great job with it.
So yeah, so I like that one. Oh man, It's
so hard. It's so hard to pick. I'm gonna go
jj A with the Bill Elliott Cores tribute paint scheme.

(51:49):
And then and in the extra that's a that's that's
in the Cup series throw yeah. Yeah, because he got
wa wa in the car. Yeah, so that's a double
whammy for me because that course it it's it definitely
is true to the original chorus paint scheme. Plus it's
got wa wa and I mean, come on, you gotta

(52:09):
get a wa wah sub ohi And crap, it's so
hard to pick a third one. There's so many good
paint schemes because I mean, I love the thirty eight
long John Silver's car, but I don't think I'm gonna
go with it. I think instead that I got O. Man,
the number five looks good.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Number five. That definitely looks classic.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, and like they stayed true to it even though
they couldn't, Like how could they not get Kellogg's on
the car for one race? I mean just one race guys,
Come on, I think I think I'm gonna go William
Byron twenty four, Jeff Gordon Mexican because it's so it's
so close, And the only thing I wish is that

(52:56):
Exalta would just, like just for the week, put Pump's
name back on the car because the same company, same
cor Yeah. So so those would be my three, but
it was hard to pick.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, no, this one's tough. This could be a thing
where I don't even go a Cup Series car.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Wow, I know there are a lot of good ones
in the X Series. I mean the I mean that
forty fred one looks awesome. That Brandon Pole. I don't
even know what the Brandon Poole deal is, but that's
a really cool looking car.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Oh no, the Brendan Poole, that's the that's the that's
gonna be one of my ones. That's the Looney Tunes
throw Hey, so it's a it's a the number forty
four Clarkson Son and and it's a it's a Looney
Tunes the Looney Tunes tribute from when the Looney Tunes
were on the cars during the Richmond Weekend. Yep, Okay,

(53:45):
so when they had the the it was the it
was the Warner Brothers or something, four hundred Looney Tunes
four hundred for a couple of years where a lot
of the Chevy teams did all their cars up in
you know, Looney Tune characters on the front yep. So
I mean that that was one one of the big
races back in the day that I love going to.
I mean, you look at the Mason Massy No Bull
Jimmy Spincer tribute. That's pretty sick as well, and then

(54:08):
the the Lehmann Honeyman, the Jeff Green Next Quest.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
That one's a really good one too, it is.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
But I gotta stay tried and true and shout out
Morgan McClure Racing. I gotta get in the number four
of part the Risk Laugh with the Doctor Teal's Chevrolet.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
With man that code. That car is definitely high on
my list.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, I mean Doctor Teals don't know what it is,
uh things. So that's another X going to give it
to you. Ah boy, you know, I love I love
all the I love the Jeff Burton schemes that are
going I love all the you know, but I have
to go the other Burton.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Oh war Burton I go war Burton.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Nice Jeff Burton's tribute card to Ward Burton when he
was driving the hottest car in the Grand National Series
in the AJ Transport Car. So yeah, yeah, I mean
it's all X and again x X has the U
X gonna give it to you.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
With the schemes, I mean, the Kyle Seed car looks good.
That Ricky Rudd Texaco scheme, I mean so many good
schemes this time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I mean the no bull one kind of caught me
in a nowhere. I'm just like, oh boy, that's a
that's a hell of a throwback there.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah. I do think that we've seen so many good
schemes that there should be a role that you can't
do with throw back to yourself. Sorry, Ryan ellis.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Right right right, Uh yes, the matthidabt a Deedo car
with the old the X side.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Batteries, yea, the excide scheme, Yeah for sure, that looks good.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And then and then Harrison Burton and the old sitcoat scheme.
It looks pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I do find it funny that, uh Sammy Smith and
the Jero Motorsports Number eight chose the three doors three
doors down Dale Earnhardt Junior scheme. Yeah, right, which I
thought that was pretty hilaire that they went so oddly
specific for a band that nobody cares about anymore.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Josh Williams doing the the U. S. Army Car tribute
skiing with his alloy.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah. There there are a lot of good ones this time.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I guess that number one is supposed to be case
Jamie McMurray throwback for Carson and Quopple. Let's see, okay,
I mean that could be any Beast Pro Shop car.
The Kody Wear car looks nice with the cat, the caterpillar, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
The caterpillar. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
The John henter Nima check with the old Bell South
scheme that his dad had, Ye, looks sick. I mean
I love that Bell South car. Yeah. I mean there's
a lot of good cars in here, and it's a
shame that other teams didn't go.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I wish that everybody would have like thrown in because
so many teams did, especially in the X series.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if they're not going to
do it for later in the year, but they probably won't. No,
it's a chance, all.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Right, So I guess picks.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Last week I won the the regular bet. Oh yeah,
what was our side bet do we have?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I bet was Burt Myers?

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Oh, oh gosh, who won that?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I won that one?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I said he's gonna finish dead last. He finished thirty
sixth bo you said thirty second booo apparently, And it's
all because then Eric Jones made it close with the
d Q there yeah boo.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
All right, So we move on to UH moving Darlington. Man,
So I want something. You should get the uh the
entire field of of drivers to pick.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
The field, including including Austin Hill, who will be in
the race.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Today of course j J and the n Y Racing
Car JJ.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, lie boy, I think he's I think, come.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
On, take that wa Wah car, Take the wall Wall car.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Get out of here. I'm gonna take Kyle Larson. Kyle
Larson kind of do He's gonna be looking at a
stick ride, so why not put that stick ride the
victory lane?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Okay? Then I will go with who should I pick
in this race? Crab? I don't know, you know what

(58:35):
he's been running. Well, I'll take a shot on Bubba Wow.
I know what this is in his best track. It's
not his best track, but he's done okay here in
the past, and he's running so well. I mean double
top threes coming in. I'll take a flyer. I'll take
a flyer on Bubba in this swimming.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
How will we do a side bet on mister Austin Hill? Oh?
What's the hill? In the number thirty three? So r
cr car, what do you got.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Out of thirty eight? Give me he's got a little
momentum coming in in the next series. Umm, he'll beat
a couple of guys, he'll beat some dudes. Give me
twenty ninth for him. I think it's good over under.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, I think that's a solid I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna keep it tight and make it thirty two,
so little room for air.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
All right, all right, there we go, which get a
lot of room on the sides, but not a whole
lot in the middle.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
So pretty much thirty one, thirty one and worse will
be me thirty and better.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
All right, there we go, right on, So there we go.
Scotty has Kyle Larson in this race. I've got Bubba
Wallace when it comes to Austin Hill, I'm picking him
finish twenty ninth. Scotty's picking him to finish thirty second.
If you want to find it, who wins the bet,
who wins the side bet, who wins the race, and
whether it was any gug Because you're probably not gonna watch,
come back next week and we'll tell you on the show.

(59:56):
If you haven't subscribed yet, you should do that so
you don't miss that show. You can do out on
Apple Podcasts, YouTube podcasts, Sprinker, Stitcher player, dot Fm, Spotify, iHeartRadio.
You can ask Alexa to play it, or you can
do what the wasatsman tells you to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Right about now in the Draft show dot com. There's
a picture of the aforementioned Bubba Wallace there is. He's
got a big m one there, there's fries on the
top of the car.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
His car looks pretty good this weekend too. He's got
a big bundle on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Big bun on and he cannot lie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
But they should have done a Macten night card. Yeah, well,
every year they should have to do a Macten night car.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
That's it, hats that should be in the rules. Yeah. Well, listen, folks,
here's the thing. If you if you somehow still on
social media, the Draft show would Facebook, Instagram and that
he'll escape called Twitter. So that's it. That's all for Wilson.
I wants to care yourself and someone else been in
the draft of Wilson a while. The history lesson for

(01:00:48):
you on this four four, yes, ninety fourth day of
the year. Oh that's crazy, Yeah, it's kind of wacky.
We have a King Louis the pious capture. There was
Barcelona from the Moors after a seed of several months
in eighth one eighty. Some people think it's the moops. Oh,

(01:01:09):
but it was printed wrong. On the Trivia Pursuit Stars,
Francis Drake is knighted by Queen Elizabeth the first for
completing circumnavigation of the world in fifteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
One, it becomes Sir Francis Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Exactly. They made of those cakes fantastic, Yeah, exactly. Georgie's
Coviear delivers the first palaeontogical lecture in seventeen ninety six.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Okay, there you go, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Eighteen eighteen, the US Congress, affirming the Second Continental Congress,
adopts the flag of the United States with the thirteen
red and a white stripes and one star for each state.
Which was twenty at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, they actually went I can't remember the exact history,
but at one point they were going to add a
stripe for each new state. And then after they like
let two in and they were like, guys, this is
going to get out of control quick, and so they
went back to just the thirteen strip man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
The guys, it's gonna get wild. It's gonna look like
a guy name.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
For like a year or two, there were a couple
of extra stripes on the flag.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, got mine. We've got to you gotta
have that on there. Just try things out, doesn't work,
go back to this, just put all the stumps on there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
It just went went back and just went stars after that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah, stay in nineteen twenty five in Germany. Nothing happened.
Oh yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Nothing happened anyway. Nineteen sixty four, I'm sorry, nineteen nineteen
sixty three. Start nineteen sixty three. First, Bye Bye Bertie,
a musical romantic comedy by George Cinney, was released.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Oh okay, right, what I've heard of that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, Bye Bye Bertie. It's a good time for every
bonny nineteen sixty four, the Beatles occupy the top five
positions of the Billboard Hot one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Oh wow, the top five.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Holy crap, Yeah, exactly. That's crazy, pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Doctor Denton Cooley implants the first temporary artificial heart this
day in nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Gosh, wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Nice. Nineteen seventy five, Microsoft has founded as a partnership
between Bill Gates and Paul Allen ab New Mexico. Wow,
go figure, So good for them. That one is not
a good one. That's definitely not a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Wonder if the other guy's just as rich Paul Allen? Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, all right, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah, I think he owned the SuperSonics for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Oh okay, all right, right on then yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I think I don't know. M he passed away not
too long ago.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Oh no, that's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, sorry, so tough, tough times. But what have we
got here? Nope, that's a bad one. That's that's a
very bad one. Finland becomes a member of NATO after
Turkey except its membership in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Oh, that's good because the other alternative is fifty third state.
Obviously obvious, No, what we want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
We got it there. Shout out to her. Happy birthday
to Erica Nuva, Estonian architect and engineer, born this day
in nineteen oh five. She was remembered mainly for her
farmhouse designs and she's the first woman to graduate as
an architect in Estonia. Oh wow, So congratulations to her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
In all honesty, I didn't know that was a stat
they kept.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Track of, but okay, it's fancy stats man. They're taking
to everything. Yeah, yeah, all right, folks, enjoy the rest
of your week, enjoy Darlington, and come back here and
we'll talk about it next week. Until then, thanks

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
For listening to In the Draft with Wilson and Waz