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April 14, 2025 86 mins
Everyone is suing everyone: Updates on the 23XI-NASCAR, Legacy-RWR, and...Dale Junior vs Lamar Jackson? Yeah - that is a thing. Plus - the latest NASCAR News, and our Paint Scheme Preivew and Picks for Bristol!

The Rundown:

- Darlington: Byron dominates, but Hamlin has a good pit stop and wins 
- Richard Petty roasts Fox - and is right
- Bristol Ratings, Cup Series Standings
- NASCAR News
- Shigeaki Hattori changed the Truck Series
- NASCAR - 23XI/FRM Lawsuit update
- Legacy/RWR Lawsuit update
- Dale Junior/Lamar Jackson Lawsuit update
- Shake n Bake YouTube Channel?
- Katherine Legge coming back - because there are no rules
- Penske does something stupid
- Sponsor news
- Bristol - our Paint Scheme Preview and Picks

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
This time smoking like hell now coming down, don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson and was
I'm Wilson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile right across
the internet from your beautiful studio by the Bay, version
two point zero. It is when mister Scottie was what's happing?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
There was Man, I'm rainier than hell here, man. Really
we had freeze warning the last couple of nights freeze.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It was like one hundred and two here today.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It was a lower twenty seven the other night.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh my gosh, I would take like right in the
middle of that would be fine for me.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sure, yeah, no, keep saying you gotta go to San Diego,
that dog.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah exactly. Just give me like sixties seventies, low seventies.
I'm good. Sure, yeah, age exactly, my age, low seventies, seventies,
and you're gonna go, Oh my gosh. Oh man. So
they were at Darlington.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Last week and yeah, again, these short track races are
not well. Two things I found that short track racing. One,
if you're out in the lead, you're gonna be the
fastest car. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's very it's just like an intermediate track race, man.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah. Yeah, but this is the third well, this is
the second race where the fastest car finished in the
top two. Yeah, so that's true, Like the fastest car
and led the most labs.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's true, Yeah, William Byron.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
So one of those deals where it's just like and
the third straight race where a top three guy was
the fastest and but didn't leave the most labs.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
But still, I mean there's that second. People are I mean,
I guess overly cautious at times. I mean there were
the two incidents of course, with the with with Kyle
Larson early and then Josh Barry a little later, both
by twenty three eleven guys. Yeah, in general, but I mean,
by and large, it's not as it doesn't seem this season,

(02:01):
at least the early going as hectic as we have
seen it in past years.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No. No, it's just kind of followed the leader. I
mean really, and everybody just falls into line. They're like, okay, whatever,
much to the chagrin of Kyle Busch, who wanted to
like say, oh, these kids rather wreck than win. I mean,
nobody's doing anything. Nobody's right. I mean, there's some recks
but not many. But nobody's really wrecking or winning.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, no, it's kind of just there. It's just a
situation that happens.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
And I you know, I haven't seen I don't know
one of the people does a poll whether the race
was good or not and gluck and I don't know.
I don't know if he did the poll this week,
if people responded to the pole. But I mean, I
can't imagine that many people were like, oh my gosh,
this is a great race. I mean, it was great

(02:49):
for William Byron. He was amazing, but he didn't win.
And really, this entire race, the entire thing was just
basically about a couple of pit stops at the end.
I mean, Byron dominated. He led every single lap for
the first two like segments of this race, and then
it got down to the end and all all the

(03:11):
lead changes, all the lead changes happened in a forty
eight lap span between lap two and two of two
ninety seven, And it really all happened just because of
cautions and the pit cycle. You know, how things how
cars came out. William Byron couldn't get out first in
one of the late pit stops, and that kind of

(03:32):
opened the door for Tyler Reddick. He looked like he
was just gonna drive away because whoever's in front just
drove away. And and then then Kyle Larson no, I
mean a million laps down spins for the second time.
We'll talk about that in a second. That opens the
pits again. Everybody's tires are pretty much junk at that point,
so everybody's coming in. Denny Hamlin's krewg Gett just does

(03:54):
a phenomenal job like he was like a second faster
than everybody else. He jumps out to the front and
then that's it. It was over fort lead changes in
the entire race.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, which you know, kind of very odd.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah for a short track, my gosh, or a shortish track. Indeed,
and usually usually your standard Darlington race involves like your
comers and goers. You got your short run cars, your
long run cars. But even that wasn't panning out at
all here. I mean, it was just whoever whoever's in
front at the restart that that was the guy that

(04:26):
was your guy that was gonna win.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
So glucks, glucks poll. Yeah, how much do you want
to say people said? How much percentage do you think said, yes.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean being on the internet. I think that is
probably like about sixty eight percent said yes, but really
only like thirty eight percent should have said yes.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Forty five point nine said yes. Oh okay, all right,
So it is the lowest race in the pole out
of sixteen lowest Darlington race. The previous low for Darlington yeah,
seventy one point six.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Wow, a almost thirty point drop off. I mean that
was in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean we saw that in Martinsville where it wasn't
as exciting as a typical Martinsville race.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Which was a fifty point nine. Yes, it was a
good race.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, so fifty to fifty and then like Darlington typically
a good race, like you just said, with the percentages there,
this wasn't a goo race. So it's gonna be very
interesting to see what happens this weekend of Bristol, which
is another place that should be good racing, whether it's bizz,
whether it's going to improve, or whether you know it's
just gonna be another like oh well race followed Leada race.

(05:35):
And the thing about Darlington is the tires did fall off, right.
There was a distinct advantage to having fresh tires and
usually in races where there's a decent rate of tire
fall off, you get a lot of good racing because
you get those comers and goers. But it just didn't
pan out. And now I don't know if it's the
car or what.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, that's what I wonder. If they figured out the
car to the point where they're not overrunning it now
maybe well, I mean it kind of feels like it
feels that way, you know. I uh, they figured it
out and it's not good anymore, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't know if this is nostalgia or what. But
on YouTube the other day I was suggested, oh man,
it was a it was a Darlington race from back
in the day. It was a Dale Earnhardt Senior Era
one and Rusty Wallace very dominant in this race, but

(06:27):
guys could catch him right. Alan Kowiki caught him. Dale
Senior was there near the end, and I don't think
any of those guys ended up pointing. Maybe maybe Rusty
Wallace came back and won the race at the end,
but he was behind because a guy tracked him down.
It wasn't like a pit thing is like here comes
Kowiki out of nowhere and he just ran him down
right and it just felt like cars could move around.

(06:48):
It felt like, you know, you could race them a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Right these ones, it's just like you get stuck and
uh yeah, there you go. Yeah. Interesting to note too,
as as Jeff Gluck just putting banger after banger out
on the Athletic as NASCAR's throwback weekend with paint scheme
wills run its course opening line if someone hosts the

(07:13):
Halloween party and only half of the guest show up
in costume, and it's still worth.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was gonna say, in general, the idea of it,
I don't think is a bad thing. Like, I don't
think it will wear out. It's welcome. You could continue
to do that and it would still be fun. But
now I get the point, and yes, I agree, if
only half the teams are going to participate, what's the point?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Chase Elliott, most popular driver. I thought it lost its
luster about four or five years ago. Really, yep, he said.
I do nott to be a downer, but I joked
years ago, if we kept going down this road, we're
gonna be thrown back to me in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh it's possible.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, so and two reasons Gluck puts out there is
one that you know, most of the good schemes have
already been used over the last decade.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
And team sponsors who are paying the money don't want
to advertise, you know, different things.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
So, I mean it comes down to a business thing.
But yeah, I mean you people running out of ideas constantly,
and then we get you know, guystributing themselves.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
It doesn't and I hate that when it's like just
their old car from like a couple of years back
or whatever. You know, the other part of this that
doesn't help is the freaking terrible Fox broadcast crew. Oh
because freaking my joy. Man, if he had mentioned one
more effing time that he liked the twenty one car

(08:32):
of Josh Barry, I mean, for Frick's sake, he told
the story four or five.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You there, buddy, you there, You're there, there, we go there.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I got so worked up about it. Then my foot
went up and it turned off the microphone. Ample fire.
I was just gone. I was like, oh no, but
he must have told that same effing story like five times,
and he kept going, oh man, I really love that
to winy one paint scheme, that Lotus paint scheme. Oh,
I had to get a special permission for it. Oh

(09:20):
my gosh, it's so awesome. I love that. It's the
best one and all of this over and we told
this story. We told this story before the weekend. I
think on the pre racetiow that actually, I guess it
was two weeks ago when they announced the paint scheme.
That yes, the Wood Brothers crew pitted that lotus at

(09:42):
the Indy five hundred or wherever it was. It was
in the Indy five hundred. Yes, but back then you
didn't necessarily need to change tires in the race or
refiel the car in the race. I guess maybe you
had to refiel the car, but you didn't necessarily change tires.
They brought on the Wood Brothers crew because it was
so good at changing tires quickly, and then in the

(10:02):
actual race itself, they think they never changed any tires
and so they didn't do what they brought them in
specifically to do. And you, Mike Joy's acting like like
the freaking Wood Brothers team picked up the car and
carried it to the victory in the d five hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, they mentioned that on the MRM broadcast. I was
watching via radio because I got rid of I've cut
the cord and cut the streaming. It's a weird, right, right.
So I was listening to an MRN on the Serious
XEM and making a whole big thing too. They didn't
drag on as much, yeah about it, but they didn't
mention it.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh my gosh, Mike Joey must have mentioned that freaking
story like four or five times. I'm like, dude, just
pick another car, pick any other car and talk about it.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
When you have a cuts job with tenure, you don't
have to do any kind of show prep. I guess
that's why we are the way we're at. Yeah, yeah,
I know, right.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
So, I mean he had that one story in front
of him. He just kept bringing it over and over.
I'm like, just talking about the freaking Kellogg's car or something. Man,
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, they couldn't it was in the garage.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah that's true, yeah man. So yeah, so yeah, if
they're gonna make it that boring and the broadcast and
if everybody's not going to commit to it, then I
kind of agree. I mean, in general, the idea I
don't think is terrible. You could do it for a
relatively long time, people just have to get more and
more creative. But if but if you're not gonna get

(11:17):
buy in from everybody, then I don't think you do it.
I think you just let it go. And if a
team wants to do a one off for that race,
they can do a one off for that race, but
don't call it the throwback race. If like, you don't
have buy in anymore and they don't have buy in
from everybody.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's and again I can understand
why sponsorship with the price of being right now, why
they would Why wouldn't they go ahead and do that
and ruin everything? I mean, unless they have something fun.
And even then, like was mentioned in the article, all
the fun ones have been done to death.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Almost Yeah. And if you can get like if a
team can get the original sponsor, then I'm doubly for it.
But that's the other problem too, is that teams can't
even get these sponsors. Kellogg's a huge sponsor, right or
what it's a huge sponsor back in the day, still
a huge company, still tons of money. You'd think that
a behemoth like Hendrick Motorsports that has all the poll
in the world, in the NASCAR world, could maybe convince

(12:11):
them to come back for one race, just one race,
one time, right, But they won't even do it. And
if they won't do it, then that takes away most
of the fun too. I mean a lot of these
companies still exist. You know, if you can get home
Depot they're just like throwing the car for one race,
then that would make it a hell of a lot
more fun. But nobody wants to do that because the
companies that left are like, you know, this is our kryptonite.

(12:32):
We're not going to get near it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, exactly. It's just like, oh, that's too much money,
that's much too much money.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, for sure. So but Fox of course all in
on that one story, also all in on having guests
in the booth, all right now before we get to
the Richard Betty thing.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
But by the way, uh, Denny Hamlin won this race
we haven't mentioned.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
No, that's right, Yeah, he won this Oh my gosh,
she's no. He didn't win the race, Scottie. He won
the championship already because he's good two in a row.
You know what that means. He's the championship winner.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now he's a championship You might as well just give
him the Troumphy.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now he's won two races in a row, Christopher, let's
get ready exactly. I mean, it's it's it's over. It's
it's over.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean that's what they said with Belle when he
won three in a row. They were like, it's over.
And now all of a sudden they're like, oh my gosh,
Ham went three in a row.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Can't be going to Gibbs. Let's be honest here, it's
the Gibbs racing year. I don't know, we all knew
it was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
They are kind of dominating, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, but yeah, okay, so Fox had before
we get to Richard Petty.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So this how Fox did it. They have Richard Petty
and Kyle Petty, who didn't sound good. I'm hoping that
it was just a cold. But they had Richard Petty
and Copett Cole Petty in the booth for segment one.
Then for segment two they had Greg Biffle, and I'm
not kidding you. The biff looked like he had just
gotten arrested on a beach in Cabo. He was wearing

(14:02):
shorts and a and a blue denim number sixteen shirt
with the sleeves cut off, my man. And he definitely
has been putting him more time in front of the
bar than he has in front of the ways at
the gym. And so he's got he's got like the
gut going.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
The arms are just like out everywhere. And he was,
he was having the time of his life. It was
absolutely hysterical.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Twelve baby did he not?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Did he not?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The not the pace card driver this week? He was, yes,
I thought so.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah he did drive the pace car.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
He blessed God, blessed.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, so he was. He was having the time of
his life, right. And but before that they had the
petties up there in the booth, and much was made
of the funny bart. Much was made of the comment
that Richard Petty made on the way out the door.
And it was so funny because I couldn't tell if
he like was just he was just he meant well

(15:05):
but it just didn't come out well, or if he
was like genuinely like low key just taking a shot
at him, because it was hysterical. It was so chill,
and he was like, oh, you know, thanks for what
you guys are trying to do up here and then
what's his name? Mike Joy was like, oh, last time

(15:26):
you told us, you asked us what race we were watching,
and Petty just didn't even listen to him, like you
just ignored him and continued on with what he was saying.
He was like, you know, there are guys out here
like racing. The real race out here is like for
fifteenth or twentieth these guys racing their asses off, and
nobody gets to see that. And he's not wrong, man,

(15:49):
it's knowing, all right. So I went back and watched
it after the fact because I wanted to hear the comment,
and so I just put it on and I was just,
you know, watching while I was working on some other stuff,
and they got to it, and I was paying attention
leading up to it, what the cameras are on, what
the focus was on in the broadcast. And remember William

(16:09):
Byron was in the middle of leaving two hundred and
forty three laps. He led every single lap of the
first stage, every single one, right, and so there was nothing,
there was nothing to pay attention to at the front
of the race, but the camera was on him so

(16:30):
much that I'm like, you know, what the king is right, man.
I mean, there had to have been something else to
watch in this race that would have been a hell
of a lot more compelling than William Byron with a
two and a half I think second lead.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, Richard Petty doubled down on this during apparently the
Petty Family Racing has a YouTube channel and you do
like a question and answer podcast with the King every week.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I mean either, but he doubled down on me.
He said that, you know, judging from it, it was,
you know, not a good race up front what you saw,
but everything in the back was pretty good because again,
guys fifteen through twenty fifth are good cars just racing
back and forth. Yeah, but you wouldn't know it if
from the TV, because the fact that you're just seeing
what's up front, right, And so I don't I don't

(17:15):
think I think it. I think it was a backhanded,
backhanded compliment.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
And you know, Mike Joey tried to write it off
and it was like, oh, well, you know, we try
to get back there when we can. I'm like, did
you watch the first segment of this race?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Man?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
It was all the twenty four That was all it was.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
And you're talking about goddamn Josh Berry's paint scheme every year.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, yeah, and then Josh Berry's paint scheme non stop.
And you know, it made me think about it a
little bit, and I was like, not only because back
in the day, they would they would focus on those
races back in the field, right, they would you know,
you see that, you see the leader, and if it
was if it was pretty evident that there wasn't going
to be any movement on the chicken fingers up at

(17:54):
the front, they would pick a couple of races, not
just one, they would pick multiple races back through the field,
and they would focus on these drivers, and then they
would loop it all back together by saying, Okay, we're
gonna run through the field real quick now, and so
they would pop back to the first guy, and they
go basically first through tenth right the top ten drivers
in the order. And that's how that was a mechanism

(18:16):
by which they brought you back to the front of
the field to show you what was going on, and
then they would focus on each driver in the top ten.
Once they got to the top ten, then they might
focus on one or two other drivers back in the
field and then pop back to the leader, and now
you're watching the leader for a little bit, and then
you do it all over again. And so you felt
like you were there, like you could see some of
the other races that were going on in the field.

(18:37):
That's gone, that's long gone. But the other thing that
as I was like watching the rest of the race
and thinking about the other thing that's that's gone, and
I don't even know when it disappeared. Were They don't
even do that thing where they like focus on the

(18:58):
most popular drivers and the most pinfully obvious way, like
ten fifteen years ago, you'd be watching a race and
you know, they run through like the top five or whatever,
and they'd be like, okay, and meanwhile, back here in
twenty third, here's Dale and Heard Junior right, and you'd
see like three laps of Dale Junior just running twenty third,
and then like halfway through the race they'd be like, oh,

(19:22):
here's Dale Junior is up to eighteenth, and you just
watch Dale Junior in eighteenth and you know they're only
putting the camera on him because he's the most popular driver.
They were doing that when Chase Elliott started. They would
have like a Chase Elliott camp. But even that's gone,
Like they don't even do like the painfully obvious, you know,
like pandering to the audience by putting the camera on

(19:44):
Chase Elliot when he's like driving backwards thirty fifth in
the field or something like that. You don't even get
that anymore. And in this race, in this particular race,
hang on here, Chase Elliot finished, Chase the finished eighth.
But I don't even remember them having the camera on
him one time. And he's the most popular freaking drive
in the sport. So you don't even get that anymore.
And at least that was a look back in the field.

(20:06):
Even if it was a look back in the field,
that was obviously for no other reason than to just
try to keep the ratings up.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, And I mean, if if you're you can't let
Fox dictate what they're gonna do, like what production isn't
gonna be, this is where Amazon and to a lesser extent,
TNT can break the mold. Yeah, in terms of being
able to follow.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Of course, I don't know how much they're gonna get
because you know, NASCAR is still in the production in
the production truck. But at the same time, I mean,
if you garner the racers, like, yeah, we can. If
we're gonna multi box this damn race, let's multi box.
You can keep an eye on the leader, but we're
gonna let's focus on a double box with guys in

(20:50):
the back, further in the back, jockum for position. Especially
as we you know, as we get closer and closer
to playoffs, you're gonna those spots are gonna mean something.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, And who who knows, Maybe with Dale Junior
involved in those streaming broadcasts, maybe they'll get back to that.
Maybe he'll suggest something like that and they'll try to
do it a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Here's the thing, and this is just me. You can't
do it this week. You can't say, oh, look, we
followed it. We followed this week right, because the track
is like ten feet.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
So exactly exactly like you're to.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Accidentally focus on a shot behind the leader because the
track is so small. This is when we're getting to
like your intermediate tracks, when we get back to when
we get to Michigan's, when we get to Daytona's and
things like that. That's that's where it all comes about.
But you know that Fox is gonna tout that, Like, no,
we were, we were paying attention to it in Bristol. Yeah, no,

(21:43):
because accidentally you got like freaking Tyler Reddick back at
eleventh uh figured out in a shot so.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Exactly like like when they go to auto clubs feet
Oh wait, never mind.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh no, yeah, they can go there.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
There might not be a they'll have a camera there,
but nothing happening.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
They're there and then just guys just trying to navigate
through the quad man a lot of the new apartment
buildings being built there.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Which, by the way, speaking of Dale and Her Junior,
did did we talk? Did I talk last week about
the Carl Edwards conversation? No podcast, I'm not going to
dive into it, right, but I rarely, rarely, if ever
watched the Dale in Her Junior podcast, But he was
talking to Carl Edwards and like the teaser was asking

(22:30):
him about that two thousand and what sixteen seventeen Homestead race,
the last race of the season, when he was leading
at Homestead and they threw the bullshit caution to get
the feel back together. Then he got wrecked right after that,
and then Jimmy Johnson ended up winning the championship because
you know, because Edwards was finished, and they teased that,

(22:51):
you know they're going to talk about that. I was like, oh, dude,
I want to talk about I want to find out
that's early the reason he left. That whole freaking conversation
is so freaking fascinating and if you haven't watched it, yeah,
I would, I highly recommend you go and watch it.
And I mean there's not just one part. There's like
four or five like really poignant moments in that conversation

(23:13):
where like you forget that you're watching a podcast and
you're just like listening to two dudes talking half about
NASCAR and half about life. It was very, very good.
I was very entertained by it, and it really gave
more insight not just to why Carl left, but it
doubled down on what he said at the Hall of Fame,
where he was like, dude, I was just in a
weird mental space and I was kind of an asshole

(23:34):
and I regret that. But but some of the things
that we saw from him on the track really weren't
representative of who he was as a person behind the
scenes and the relationships that he have behind the scenes.
And he also talked about the mat Kens thing at
Martinsville too.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, so very interesting stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Low key Dale Junior gets a lot of great interviews.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
He died. He did a really good job, man, and
you know, he doesn't sound like Bob Costas or anything
while he's talking, but he just asks good questions. Then
he had really really great follow ups and at one
point was kind of lamenting the fact that he and
Carl Edwards didn't know more about each other when they
were racers, because he was like, dude, I think we
would have had because there's a moment in Daleen Hurt's

(24:16):
Junior's life when he didn't even realize he was like
crossing paths with the Edwards family, and he was like, man,
I wish we had known like about it. I wish
we had basically sat down and talked and figured all
this stuff out about each other because we probably would
have been pretty good friends and had this great bond together.
So and sad because they were both kind of like, yeah,
that kind of sucks. We went this long and you know,

(24:39):
we could have been these great friends and we just weren't.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Only you know, ships in the night. They say, yeah,
but the thing with Dale Junior and you mentioned it perfectly, like,
not only the questions, but he listens and is able
to come up with follow ups. And that's what somebody
who former president of the Maryland Black Bears, Robin Remick,
she worked at ESPN for a long time. He said,
a lot of the great interviewers that they're they're not
it's not the questions they asked, it's the questions they

(25:03):
asked after if they're listening or not, because if they're listening,
they can adapt on the fly.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, that's what Dale Junior does and he does it
very well.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah. I thought it was very good and and like
I said, I don't really listen to his podcast that much,
but I was like, damn, I need to listen to
more of these shows. And uh and especially that one
was was fantastic. Indeed, what have we got here? Uh So, Yeah,
Richard Petty was right. You know, it's weird that there
was this controversy after the fact about Bubba Wallace whether
he wrecked Kyle Larson, and I didn't even see that,

(25:34):
Like I saw Larson go sideways. I didn't see the
contact with with the twenty three car. But they went
back and analyzed the data and and and Bubba was
just racing and Kyle Larson slowed down and that was
really what caused the contact and caused the wreck. And
the weird, weird part is that people were like, oh,

(25:56):
you know, Bubba caused the caution to give Denny Hamlin
a chance to win. How the f would hear anybody
else know that the eleven car was gonna have the
most insane pit stop ever and get get out in
front of everybody, right, Yeah, I mean that caution could
have just as easily opened the door for William Byron
as it did for Denny Hamlin, because all Byron needed

(26:17):
was track positioned again and he was gone. And it
made me wonder whether Larson wasn't dumping it to try
to give his teammate a chance to win the damn thing.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, well, I think it's one of those things where
you start you start questioning the conspiracy theory of it,
you've lost the plot of about everything. Yeah, so getting
into that brain rot kind of wild for anybody, for
anybody this early in the season two.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's the thing is, like, you
know what advantaging It's not like it's a playoff race
or something like that, right, So, you know, and I
really don't think that Bubba Wallace was thinking, boy, even
though he's not on my team, I'm gonna like try
to engineer a caution for my boss on this other team,
and the same thing for Kyle too. I mean, kind

(26:59):
of a shit car all day. And so I don't
think he was thinking, oh, man, if I tank this,
then maybe Hendrick could win. Like again this early in
the season. Who cares? And we Byron already has a
victory this year.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, he doesn't need it, So doesn't.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
All that all that would do if if Kyle wrecked
and because of that and did it intentionally give Byron
a chance to win, all that would do was give
Byron a bigger advantage over him once you got to
the playoffs, because he gets more playoff points.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it's
I think it's you know, we were putting the car
before the horse. What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, exactly like you said, so early in the season,
I don't think that we're really the the the team
alliances are playing out in race number five or six
or whatever where I eat, I guess we're Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean so ratings for this one. This is very interesting,
all right. So it was two point five one seven
million on f S one last year, this particular weekend

(27:58):
of the season, this race of the year, race of
the year was Martinsville, and that Martinsville race had two
point two one eight million, And so it's like, hey, yeah,
this is up three hundred thousand, up a decent amount.
But if you look at the Darlington Throwback Race from
last year that was basically a month from now, was

(28:18):
May twelve, that race had two point six three million.
And remember usually the numbers kind of tail off as
you go along in the season, and so it all
depends on what you're comparing to. You compare it to
exactly one year ago, yeah, they're up a little bit.
If you compare it to the same race, the Darlington
Throwback Race a year ago, they're down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I'm comparing it to the week because of the fact
that just because it's you know, if Washington played the
Cowboys in October, their rating was higher than if they
were playing in November. And I can't know. I'm going
by week eight situation, and it's up and it's consistent again,

(29:02):
and peak of three three million at the end of
so they're getting they're getting that just over three million
at the end of the race. Situation too, also could
mean maybe shortened the damn races, right, maybe shorten them
from the three and a half hour slog that we
had going on there. But I mean, you're getting consistent

(29:24):
to three hundred thousand people more, which is good. Well,
we'll not see those numbers for five races when it
goes to Amazon, so we kind of just have to
kind of ride the wave to see where it all goes.
I think any trajectory upward, especially when we there's a
there's a lot, there's a lot, there is a lot,

(29:45):
there's a lot to this NASCAR on plenty, but this
one I think is a good improvement if you if
you can just keep a momentum going, you can keep
even like I said, even if it is just three
hundred thousand, that's three hundred thousand. Hell, I'd love three
hundred thousand more people to listen to thas every week.
We can make we can make that Joe Rogan money

(30:07):
and talk about things and influence the presidential debates exactly
like that. I mean, I mean, I think I think
if you keep the sustainability up. Then NASCAR is in
a decent place in the grand scheme of thing.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay, okay, fair enough, I'll go with you on that
standings right now. William Byron, who finished second in this race.
After dominating, he does increase his lead to forty nine
points over Denny Hamlin, who scored a second victory in
this race. Christopher Bell is fifty two points back in third,
Chase Elliott is fifty nine out in fourth. Tyler Reddick

(30:41):
rounds out the top five sixty one points back. All
of those guys finished top eight in this race. Rest
of the top ten, you got Larson Blaney, Bubba Wallace,
Joey Logano, and Alex Bowman.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Quiet quiet year for Blaney, honestly after a championship.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, so far.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean he went, they went to the Did they
go to the White House? Was it him that went
to the White House?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
It was just Joey, Yeah, yeah, it was him and
Joey and well he won in twenty twenty three, Joey
won in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, they both went along with a couple of other
Penske Basically Roger forced them to go. I'm sure well,
I don't know. Joey was like posting about it, so
it seemed like he was pretty happy.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, I think I think I think they forced Ryan
to go.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, I hope, so yeah, we can get hope.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So yeah, we can only hope. So yeah, as they're
tanking the stock market, I.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Wouldn't have gone. Where did the Eagles or where the
Eagles gonna go? I can't remember. They weren't.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
No, those are unsustained. There was no invite and there
was no decision. Okay, good, Yeah, they didn't go last time.
I think when No, they didn't.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
They didn't. Yeah, and they said they said they weren't
gonna go this time. And then then I thought maybe
they were backing off on that, but who knows.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, yeah, I don't get it anymore, don't so.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So yeah, rumor has it Joey bought a Tesla while
it was there.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh God, bless.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
So they're safe, They're they're saved. It's the crisis is
over for them.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Here's the thing people are getting wrong. First off, I
always hide yourself. Tesla's got cameras for days, always your face.
Second off, why have we not initiated paintballs?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Long range will do as much damage, just saying.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So every time every time I see a cyber truck,
I just giggle because got terrible looks.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Say, they really are horrible. It's like a fricking five
year old druid. I do. I do have a friend
who who has a Tesla, and they bought it new,
like a couple of years back, and so upside down
on it, like so upside down on it that they
were like, dude, I kind of hope somebody sets it
on fire so I can get the insurance money. Es well,

(32:47):
I can't trade the thing, so maybe maybe somebody will
set this piece of crap on fire. Love God, please,
Oh my gosh. Hey, that's and that's the older say
and a me man, so right right right, listen to him.
Don't listen to me. I was I gonna say, Oh, so,
let's move one to the news. I can't believe. This

(33:08):
is crazy news that came out over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Tragic week in general for NASCAR.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, Shigayakihati was killed in a strange auto accident in
North Carolina. Apparently was driving down the freeway and for
some unknown reason they don't know why yet, he veered
his vehicle crossed the center line Verena in oncoming traffic,
and unfortunately he was killed at the site of the crash.

(33:36):
That name may or may not sound familiar to you.
As a driver. He did a handful of IndyCar races,
a couple of truck races in the early two thousands,
but then decided to become a team owner and that's
where he really kind of came into his own. It
was a very like kind of long and winding road
between twenty and thirteen and twenty sixteen, you had really

(33:57):
between two thousand and thirteen twenty fifteen, you had like
this smacking of races, a couple of X races, a
couple of truck races. Then they got Ryan Trux in
the truck in twenty sixteen. Yeah, it was twenty sixteen.
He ran like a handful of races, like maybe maybe
a quarter of the season type of thing, but they
couldn't get the sponsorship right. They finally got the sponsorship
figured out. For twenty seventeen, Ryan Trucks is in the

(34:20):
truck full full time, finishes eleventh in the standings, just
missed out on the playoffs. I believe he actually tied
for the final playoff spot, but lost the tiebreaker. Then
they put Brett Moffatt in the truck in twenty eighteen,
and this one truck team wins the freaking championship. Moffitt
wins six races, Austin Hill jumps in and next thing

(34:41):
you know, they're in the playoffs every year for the
three years at Austin Hills in the truck, So for
four straight years they made the playoffs. Then they put
Tyler Ankram, a highly talented prospect in the truck. Didn't
really work out as well for him as for the
other guys. And then just as suddenly as they took
off him, were like a major player in the truck series.
Just like that. They were like, hey, you know, I

(35:04):
guess they I guess the Tory didn't really want to
do it anymore. He sold off the points to Ringan
Brothers Racing, I want to say. And then and then
they just went part time, like putting a couple of
you know, more famous drivers in the truck for a
couple of races in twenty twenty four and then that
was it.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, it was done, but but.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I mean, just a great story. It reminds me of
of the furniture row situation. I mean, obviously I was
protracted of an era where they were just like struggling, struggling, struggling,
and then they finally hit their stride, but you know,
mostly except for one year a one truck operation and
then they just take on the big guys and win.

(35:43):
And it was just a great story to see. And
with this unlikely owner and then I guess, I guess
he was still sticking around in the US and then
this tragic thing happens. It's sad to see.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, a rough a rough deal and a guy who yeah,
kind of grew up, you know, made his made his
hay while the Sunshine kept to it got success. And
then honestly, by the time Anchorum came in is when
the truck series kind of started to go sideways in general,
with just a lot of young, inexperienced kids and just
wrecking up a lot of trucks. And I can see

(36:16):
why you get out. I mean, that money, that that money,
you know, that comes at you fast, and I don't
know how the amount of sponsors you need to make
sure you break even in that situation. So got out.
But yeah, just a just a bad situation. Crappy situation
in general, and really was the domino effect for the
rest of the crappy news that happened this week. I

(36:37):
don't know if you saw these other ones here. First off,
starting with with John Edwards, the longtime PR guru at
Hendrick Motorsports. You know, uh passed away, I believe today
Thursday you do this and just a guy who was
very well respected in the garage everything that you know,

(36:59):
you would one out of a pr representative guy to
represent not only the sport but also a team. Just
just a guy there who you know, puts up there
and everyone everyone's like, this is this is the guy
who's the concert professional, this is the guy you want
to lead the charge and just suddenly passed away today.
So a really really crappy situation there. And then then

(37:23):
another long time auto racer, Al Pierce worked for Auto Week,
Oh okay, doing Daytona, Beach, Indye, Darlington, everything on NASCAR,
did Lamar other places. Wrote from nineteen sixty nine to
two thousand and four for the Newport Daily News Newport
News Daily News and did a lot of stuff for

(37:45):
Auto Week every week. And yeah it went to was
in Vietnam. Was a teacher, went to went to went
to journalism school, wrote thirteen auto racing books, fifty six
consecutive day hill of five hundreds he covered.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah. So he passed away at eighty two. So uh wow. Man,
just just a just a bad week for NASCAR, for
for people who are not necessarily drivers, but the people
who kind of make this sport go where they beat
prats or the owners and things like that.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
And I do want to thank the Tory Racing for
delivering some of my favorite paint schemes ever in the
truck series, the Toyo Pet ones, which I still I
still maintain that it's a digital pet that you carry
with you. It's not like a Toyota parts subsidiary.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know what it is. It's a it's a it's
a digital transformer that's a camera.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, oh I believe that. Yeah. Yeah, I always wanted
the Toyo Pet even though it really wasn't a pet.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, precursor to tom I gotcha exact exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I think it. I think it was. I still maintained
it was, and I still will maintain that it is.
You should Toyo Pet does still exist, all right. A
couple of lawsuit updates starting with the main NASCAR lawsuit,
the monopoly one the un trust lawsuit between twenty three
eleven and FRM. This is kind of a crazy and
unexpected twist in this story. Twenty three eleven inn FRM,

(39:16):
during their discovery process, has subpoenaed Formula One's financials from
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four, and they've asked a
court to compel Liberty Media to go along with the
subpoena and open up their books and show some of

(39:37):
their financials, very specific things that they're looking for to
twenty three eleven n FRM to use in their lawsuit
against NASCAR. Now, the reason that this is interesting, outside
of the fact that they're asking a whole other series
to show their financials, is because there is there isn't
like a true collective bargaining and agreement like there is

(40:01):
in like the stick and ball sports here in the US,
but it's almost at that level with Formula One. They
have something called the Concord Agreements. It started in the
eighties and have still continued that it's been renewed over
and over and over again through today. And it's a
very similar agreement that outlines pretty much the entire relationship

(40:21):
between the sport and the team owners, and you know
how the money's all divvied up, things like that, and
these agreements, despite the fact that they've been around for
forty years now, thirty or forty years now, very very secretive,
like nobody except for the actual teams themselves know the details,
and not many of those details have ever been released.

(40:44):
And now you've got these NASCAR teams come out along
saying hey, hey, we want to look at these and
potentially that means that a lot of people can find
out about them. I think that there is a pretty
good chance that if Liberty agrees to show any of
this material to the NASCAR teams, that there will probably

(41:04):
be some sort of gag order or some sort of
like the documents would be sealed and not released to
the public. And I think that you would have to
make that concession if you were twenty three eleven or
FRM because of the unique circumstances here, because they're not
suing Formula one. But this is a very interesting twist
in the story, and I think what they're trying to
do is lay the case that hey, at the very

(41:27):
least NASCAR should have a system that's that goes along
with what Formula one is doing, and Formula one is
doing that because they know that they have a monopoly
on that type of racing.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely an interesting situation we're going
into if we're getting into other data for others, yes,
I know, right, because it's a super unprecedented. Yeah, but
it's also one of those things where it's just like
F One's like, oh boy, I know a lot of
stuff redacted that's not going to be made public and
it's going to be under gag order. So we will

(41:58):
just we will see how this all pans out.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
And I can't find any response from Liberty or Formula
one over this, but it'll be very interesting to see
what their official response is.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Lol. No, I know, right, it could be. It could
be it's that simple.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, very interesting. And then we also have a small
team drama update between Legacy Motor Club and Rickware Racing.
The pre trial hearings have gotten underway in this one.
Legacy God, I would call this a minor, a very
minor victory to start things off. Basically, what Legacy said is, hey,

(42:46):
we had this deal in place, we thought we were
going to get the charter next year, but you know,
Rickware Racing was like, no, no, you're getting it in
twenty twenty seven. And when they found out we wanted
it next year, they pulled the plug on the deal.
And we want to be able to force the deal.
So Legacy was like, we don't want them to lease
or sell this charter aut from under us, because if
we win and they have to sell us the charter

(43:09):
in twenty twenty six and they've already leased it or
sold it to somebody else, well then we get nothing.
And so the judge agreed and the quarter is granted
the restraining order against Require Racing. They cannot lease or
sell that charter until this matter is resolved. That it's
it's a minor thing because you know, if if Legacy

(43:29):
can't prove that they had a deal in place, then
they're going to remove that and they can do whatever
they want with the charter. But it's at least, you know,
a step towards getting to an actual arguments between the
teams and trying to figure out what was really said
and what was really done.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Wu Tang said, protect your neck. That's what they're doing exactly.
That is what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So there's that. Uh, this was another way. This was
a weird, weird story week. Yeah, that one thing, we
got the small team drama thing and then Dale Earnhardt
Junior and Lamar Jackson, the quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens,
getting into like a beef over the number eighth. Apparently

(44:10):
the story here is that Junior applied for a couple
of trademarks, one on the very slanted eight that he
used when he was at the EI, the one that
he's famous for, the one that like so many people
have tattooed on themselves. And then he also applied for
a trademark for another version of number eight that he
typically used, which are motorsports, which was a little less
slanted and kind of numbers were a little bit fatter.

(44:32):
And then Lamar Jackson comes out of nowhere like like
it was a w W run in and was like, no, dude,
they belongs to me. You can't have the eight. And
now I don't know how anybody in sport can like
lay claim to the number eight. I mean, what about
what about Troy Aikman, Well, is he chopped liver hold on.

(44:52):
Lamar Jackson sued Troy Aikman as well. Oh did he really?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah? Yeah, that was another big story too.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
No, I mean needless to say, if anybody has claim
to the number eight, it would be eight men or
earn Hard. Before Lamar Jackson, they were using the number
waight before him. Who who would you.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Say, Alex Alex Ovechkin, who just broke the all time
go right man? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Ninety five? Everybody?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, exactly, It's a tunnel. The The thing. The thing
with this is is like Lamar wasn't mad about the
slanted eight, the de i A that Teresa Earnhardt gave
up the trademark on. It was the the newer one,
the stylized eight that he was upset. I guess the
whole thing was about that. Hey, because we're both in

(45:37):
sports and we both use the number eight, people are
going to get confused. Which if you get confused between
Lamar Jackson and Dale Junior and Natar and the NFL,
you're the idiot.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Exactly exactly. I don't understand how there could be any
basis for the suit I I uh or not. I
don't know if it was it a suit or was
it just it.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Was so when it was a it was a objection.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
And objection to the trademark. Yeah so, and and in
the end, I don't know whether they were like, screw you.
He can have the eight if he wants to eight.
Everybody can have an eight. But in the end it's
somehow has been figured out and Junior is using has
now trademarked the old school DEI eight, and he's gonna
use out on all those.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Cars now I guess, yeah, yeah, they're starting this week
using that that stylized eight because yeah, threes are earned hard,
held onto it for however long. And then she didn't
renew it, so Dale Junior got his team on it,
and they figured it hole figured it all out.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
But wait, but I just don't even understand how any
single sports player can, like, you know, lay claim to
a number, just in general a number.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Well, I mean a lot of people lay claim to
hand marks and stuff like this is not uncommon that
people try to file suit. Well, we had the big
thing about the number twelve, the twelfth Man, where the
Seattle Seahawks tried to trademark that, but Texas A and
M is like, hey, we've been using this for one
hundred years, what are you talking about? So I mean,

(47:03):
there's there's a big to do about this. And again
it's it's really more you can't lay full claim to
this blah blah blah like it. There is like like
when we have I have the copyright to face Off
Hockey Show, but I can't claim the superior naming to
hockey or show like I can't. I can't distinctively say that, yeah,

(47:23):
I own the term Hockey Show. No. So so it's
a little it's a little wording like that legally stuff
like that. That'll that'll get figured out in court and
they'll settle on whatever it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And and the whole thing, like you said, with the
trademark issue is if it creates confusion and and how
anybody could be confused between Junior and Lamar Jackson, I
don't even know.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, No, it's kind of weird. It's kind of wacky,
but you know, that's that's that's life these days.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Man. Speaking of trademarks, I'm sure that there's going to
be a trademark file that there hasn't been already for
Shake and Bakes Sports.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, no, I don't think. I think the people Shaking
b You're gonna have something to say about.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
That they might. So there is a Shake and Bake
Sports apparently. Now, I guess I haven't gotten YouTube the look, but.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Sprits starts Monday.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
By the way, Okay, it's good. They're gonna do a
YouTube show and some young drivers. Now the show is
going to feature, among others, Connor Zilich, Daniel Die not
to be confused with Daniel day Lewis, and Jesse Love,
which sounds like a fake name. And and oddly enough,
Shake and Bake Sports is owned by Connor Zilich and

(48:34):
Daniel Die and Jesse Love, which still sounds like a
fake name. And then some other guys.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
So they see those like Mike Love's son or grandson
Mike Loved and the Beach Boys.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Oh that's right, yeah, which is also made up name.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, I am. I am confused by this Shake and Bake.
Here's the question who asked for it?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
All?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
You? Okay? Here? Yeah? Who? Yeah? Yeah? The question one
is who asked for this? The question two is really
more statement to all right, So this goes out to
anybody creating a company, starting a band, especially if you're
starting a musical group. Do a Google search, right, just
whatever you're gonna name it, do a Google search and

(49:23):
if if you can't, if you find something that everybody's
gonna find when they type that in, choose another name.
Like I go to YouTube and I type in shake
and Bake, and you know, yeah, eventually, if you scroll
down enough, you get some clips from you know, Talladega Nights.
But it's all just like commercials for the actual and

(49:43):
YouTube videos for the actual Shake and Bake.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, the craft. The Kraft Heinz folk will probably have
to have a thing about this.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, I mean, you know, pick something that that you're
gonna be able to find if you search for it.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah. Man statement three, which is more of a comment.
I give that NASCAR wants stuff like this, but I
don't know if they want it from these particular drivers.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
It will be interesting. I don't know anything about their
personalities at all.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
No, no, no, but they're all like younger kids. So,
I mean, Daniel Die we've seen in the End the
Truck series, in the Xfinity series, Jesse Loves making his
Cup debut this weekend. Conters Village just turned eighteen, So
I mean it will be an interesting thing to see
these young teenagers to figure out what the hell they're

(50:37):
going on. I mean their first episode will be this Monday,
April fourteenth, where the cast and this is I guess
it's the TV Guide version as the cast beats to
see who can complete whole number three at the five
hundred Club, Lake Norman's premier sports club in the fastest
time in an episode called speed Golf. It's a concept

(50:58):
never done before and probably would never be done after.
Sure true that you know, no one has ever done
this concept, and Mario Golf for the Switch did not
have this concept one bit in their game that they
came out with about five years ago. So I mean,
it's it's it's monumental. So I hate this channel already.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, so I found them. It's at Shake and Bake
Sports ninety three subscribers so far.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Hey, there we go, fivety three. Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
They had posted one video. It is a trailer of
the show that you just described. I haven't watched the
trailer yet, but I can see them in the thumbnail
playing golf. The description of the channel says friends Forever,
Rivals for life. So I'm what it's supposed to be
like due perfect for NASCAR guys.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
I guess, well, wasn't that just due Perfect Yeah, that
is right.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
That is too perfect. New episodes every Monday. That's a commitment,
right there. Dude.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, well, I mean you got you got a production.
It looks like it's really well produced. I'm just watching
the clip like mute it right, like they're taking clips
and they're got video. They got their four K cameras,
the the editing at the end. The post production looks
pretty cool. They got they probably got those cool black
Phantom cameras or whatever the hell they're called. So I

(52:18):
mean it looks really cool. I mean, it looks fine.
I mean it's again, I didn't ask for this for
these young kids. But at the same time, this is
something we gripe about too, so I can't be too
too mad about it. It's just something that we It's
unexpected from people I didn't expect, which would make it

(52:39):
unexpected Scott, don't you know, reiterate that sulf. But I mean,
we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it all
pans out. And maybe some guy named Rip there who
looks like that guy who was around for the boy
bands situation and one of the drivers just tried to
shake a guy with no right arm with his right
hand a faux pas.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Oh, I don't know. Is that that in the trailer?
Is that all in the trailer?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's in the trailer.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Oh my, okay, I'll have to watch this trailer after
we're done then.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of way.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I will tell them this about their logo. Too many fonts, dude,
too many?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Oh, it's one of the one of the guys participating,
Alex for Ah, does not have a right arm.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
It looks like, Oh, is he a drive? I guess
he's not a driver.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Who knows. I guess suppose he could be, could possibly be.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
But but just pick one font for your for your
thing you'll need. You'll need three fonts, dude.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
No, I need you need? You need Timith the oliphants.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, well, now if they had Timmath the Oliphant, that's
the only font you need.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, it's true, I mean really yeah, unforgiven?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Was he unforgiven? They can't remember?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
No, I guess, I guess good for them. We'll have
to see what it is and how much they integrate
the actual racing weekend into these gimmicks. We'll see. We'll
find out Monday. I suppose, I.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Suppose we will justified it was justified it. Oh sure,
let's see u uh So Catherine Lake is going to
be back.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
This is a weird one.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
This is so after creating a lot of controversy in
that race that she ran earlier this year for just
like loafing basically on track and causing issues. ELF, which
is a makeup company, I think you're a makeup company.
Beauty company, is going to sponsor her in a total
of seven races across the X and Cup series. We
know already that she's going to do the X races

(54:34):
at Rockingham and the Charlotte Oval race. So the six
hundred weekend, she's going to do the Cup race at
Mexico City, where she's had some success in other series
in the past, and then after that the rest of
the races. Who knows, they're not they're not saying.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So the one key thing they left out of this
that I saw that maybe maybe you saw, maybe I
didn't see who the hell's supplying the cars?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
That is a good question. I don't know the answer to.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
The only thing I see in here is that they're
teaming up with Team Chevy.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Okay, so be a Chevy of some sort.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Well that's all we got like, I don't know who's
supplying these damn cars.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh, bike racing. Maybe the Money team gonna come back. Yeah,
that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
If I was love love me some Obika back. But yeah,
that's not that's not good. When you you have this thing,
it's like you're talking about the elf beauty and how
they're pivotal in this and women in and sports, which
you know, hey, shout out to that. But and you
know called call call U sir, mix a lot because
I got a big old buck coming up. Why aren't

(55:47):
we saying who you're getting these cars from? Because it's
kind of shaky because it can be any Chevy team,
and there's some Chevy teams that are not good Chevy
teams exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Well, and the other thing too, is that in her
first race like this year, she brought up all kinds
of questions on the back end about NASCAR's approval process
for putting drivers in races, and NASCAR just like ignored it.
And so now she's like, yeah, I'm coming back for
seven races, and I mean, it's kind of weird. It
would be like it would be like somebody showing up

(56:20):
that everybody agreed probably doesn't have the experience yet and
then them just declaring that they're just gonna be back
for more and nobody says anything about it. It's weird,
but wouldn't you. Yeah, hell, if they're gonna let you?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Why not if if they if they said that, if
they they figured it out, and they're just like, okay, well,
this is an outback steakhouse, so no rules, just right,
let's get on this. What are we doing here? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I don't blame her, you know. I mean if somebody
was willing to put me in a car and and
nobody was gonna say no, I'd do it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Mm hmm yeah, why not? Yeah? Why not? Pop? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
So so that's gonna happen. We'll find out what the
other races are eventually. I guess.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Then we got I guess it's really see how these
first three that might be.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Really what it comes down to is how she performs
in those first three are going to dictate whether the
other four happen or not. NASCAR is apparently teaming up
with something called Recast. Have you heard of Recast?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I had no. This is the first time hearing.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
So it's kind of like a fly by night streaming
company that charges people money to watch things, and NASCAR,
I guess is what they're going to do is partner
with these guys to reach into markets where they don't
have broadcast coverage, and then you can just pay Recast
to watch the races. What I think that maybe if
you're trying to get people in markets that aren't exposed

(57:45):
to NASCAR to watch NASCAR, you should find a way
to give it to them for free. But I mean
that's just me.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Recast, the revolutionary micro transaction streaming platform.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I mean, I'm not NASCAR's marketing team. I don't know,
but like if somebody in uh, like you know, somebody
in like Bulgaria doesn't have access to NASCAR all the time,
and I want them to get interested in NASCAR, They're
probably not gonna be like, I've never heard of NASCAR,
but I'm gonna go ahead and paste two ninety nine

(58:20):
race to watch it. Now. I think that I would
probably find a way to give away a couple of
races for free in Bulgaria so so they could figure
out that they like it and then maybe start charging.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
So okay, yeah, I'm okay and Recast pay.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah. Yeah, they have like their own, like like payment
platform make should by or you probably buy like tokens
and crap like that.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah, and you can reach new and younger audiences. I
guess by amplifying the affiliate and content syndication engine, you
can enable users to share link in exchange for credits.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Oh wow, there you go. Okay, so if you share it,
you get some freebies.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah. With fifty percent of Recast users under the age
of thirty five, I see it deepens the customer engagement
because they can hop into email addresses, what do you
in depth sales data, all kinds of other crap.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Why don't they just like, uh, why don't they just
get themselves a set at Coachella. Just you go up
to one of the tents and you just watch on
a NASCAR race for forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
I wonder, I wonder if we can get Oh maybe
we could, maybe we affiliate, we can affiliate. I'm gonna
getting emails trying to I'll should forward you these emails
about like we want to get your NASCAR thing listed here,
And I'm just like, when did when do we revert
back to people doing link sharing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I know, right, what is this like nineteen ninety two
it went year, are we what's happening? That's interesting?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
So yeah, recast is a thing. Never heard of it before. Yea.
I don't know if they've looked at the economy. I'm
not going to hear about again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Probably no tariffs though on it. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Man, don't know where are
they based out of?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I was to see there you go. I don't know.
You could get shut down all together?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, man, who's the same.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
We already talked about the Penske thing. I got some
sponsor and it's just a couple of sponsor things. I
don't know if you have anything else but rural King. Rural.
That's a hard word for me to say. Rural.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, it's tough. It's a lot of letters that shouldn't
be not urban.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
But rural King is going to be on the number
four with Gregson for three races this weekend of Bristol
and then Talladega and North Wilkesboro. They sell farm stuff
on a website that looks like it was made in
about two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Hey, baby, front page forever shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Oh my gosh, it's not good. Shootler Systems who's been
around for a while, has continued their deal with the
number one car and Corey High three race deal again
this weekend at Bristol, then again at the second Atlanta
and then North Wolke Spur. Everybody's getting in on the
Northwolke Spuro race and then Grizzly Nicotine Pouches. Sorry, z

(01:01:16):
In is gonna be on the number sixteen with the
Dinger h Almen Dinger. That's four race deal Bristol, Talladega,
Indian Watkins Glen. They opted not to do the Northwolke
spurro on theirs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Man. People are lazy. You can't even pack their own lip.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I guess not no kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
You just got a pouch and you just put it in.
It's so dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Cracker Barrel, Oh wait what sponsoring the Nashville Super Speedway
Cup race in June.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Hoping they were going to be on a car.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
No cracker Barrel four hundred. It'll be out there and
you know, you know, rocking chair and we got cracker
barrel up the street from us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Oh nice, go get some chicken and dumplins.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Man. Man, it's all you know, it's all about the potatoes. Baby,
it depends on the potato. That potato stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah, yeah, I do. I do like their fried catfish.
It's pretty good. There not a cat Oh yeah, I
like catfish. U don't don't like to get catfish, but
I like eating catfish.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Oh, I don't know. Medusa ransomware claimed the nasscar breach
and latest attack.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Oh wait what all right? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I got to read this?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Why don't they just get the financial data for twenty
three eleven in FRM.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Medusa ransomware hits NASCAR demands four million dollar ransom leaks
internal files. Oh wowm it was leaked on the dark web. Uh,
they demanded four million threatening to release internal data. Payment
isn't made, as seen as hacker read dot com. The
hackers opposed that thirty seven documents document images related to

(01:02:53):
NASCAR as proof. A review of one of the blurred
images shows that makes the corporate branding materials facility mass spreadsheets.
When deployee contact details of what looks like internal notes
and photographs interesting, they suggest some content includes detailed maps
of the race ground, email addresses, names, titles of staff,
credential related info.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
So the thing is that the hackers probably wouldn't even
know what the juicy stuff was to release it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, and honestly, what is that, like, Oh, we're gonna
know what credentials? Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Everyone has these maps for the raceway. What do you
do it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
It was it like a map of the circuit, like
of the the track.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
It is legit a it's basically a credentials Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, they give you the map when you pick up
your creds and go. Yeah, that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
And one of them is just like a branding title
where they use what pantone they use and how it
should be put on documents and things like that. So
I mean it's just okay, cool, you've got the credential.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Uh. They could have gotten there from anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I know, just gluck could have just left this
laptop over exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
And yeah, give us four million bucks. Yeah, show us
something good man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah. The Mexico Mexico Cup series gonna go to on September.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
You gonna go where the Panama?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah? Panama? Oh, Panama, Panama said, yeah, so there you go.
There's that. Uh, Oscar Meyer and the Banana and Bread
brand the Rustic Oven will be the partners with the Kroger.
So there's a big sandwich on the side of the car. Okay,
so there's that Prime Energy will be uh sponsoring a Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Larson bottle, okay a bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, So that's starting late June. Interesting, So I don't
know what that entails. Uh and kind of a rebuff
of what we talked about last week about Lionel uh
Linel Racing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Oh yea, they're raising their prices even more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Now you have twenty nine percent what from one hundred
and twenty two one hundred and fifty five for their
elite die cast, and I'm sure that's gonna go up
more because this is when the tariffs against China was
only fifty four percent. Now it's like, I think, four
twenty two percent. I'm not entirely it just keeps.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
It might be And you know, I saw some responses
of that on Twitter. Everybody's like just Marke Command amer Command.
I mean, I don't even know if there's a place
that makes die casts in the United States, and maybe
maybe there is, but I'll tell you this, if there is,
you're probably gonna pay the same amount as the increased
prices from Lionel, maybe even more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, because you can't charge slave labor.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I mean, sure, exactly. That's that's why they do it
over there, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
And I mean look at it too, like even if
you wanted to do that, to build these plants and
everything like that, it's gonna take years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
That's the thing. It's takes so long that by the
time they build it, then somebody else will be in
the then there won't be any terriffs anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
But no one gets it because it's all the brain.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
There were there were a lot of people complaining about
the quality of the Lionel diecasts. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I don't have any Lionel, so I have one, and
that's the face off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Oh right, right, right right, I mean, how is it
compared to the older ones.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
It's it's you can definitely see the difference. You can
feel the difference. It's not as it doesn't seem as heavy,
it doesn't seem as it doesn't seem as sturdy. Yeah.
The cool thing is it has a base already attached
to it, So I mean there's that mm but by
and large just kind of just you know, eh, I mean,
if you can tell a difference, it's not you know,

(01:06:40):
I mean, I'm sure, the Elite series, like, because the
one that we have is the just the regular gimmick.
If you want the Elite series, it probably is different
and probably like the old ones. But I mean, you
know older, the older things were few and far between, right, Like,
you didn't have a special scheme every damn week.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Right, exactly exactly, And it wasn't done.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
By Lionel either. I mean, Lionel didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
It was there was Revel, there was action.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Who was who was the other one that did the rouse?
Rouse had their own their own guy revel. There was action,
and there was was action the Raus one and then
there were then there was a third one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I can't remember who the third one was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
No Action did a lot of the other ones. They
did most of them. I can't remember. Hot Wheels did some,
but that was more like the retail ship that they did.
God damn, what was was? I'll look for that. But yeah,
but I mean like, but they had quality stuff. But again,
it's one of those things where it was team caliber

(01:07:39):
that was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Oh caliber, that's right, that's right, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So it's one of those things where, again, like I said,
you didn't have a special scheme, every week, and you
weren't putting out Winner die cast every week, which I
think is the silliest goddamn thing. It really is, unless
it's a special, like unless it's first win, I don't
care about that any Hamlin winning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Or like maybe Daytona five hundred and something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
You're like big events, yeah, stuff like that, But I
mean to put one out every goddamn week, Like that's
where you're and that's where the pre order is, the
order situation, yeah, where you figure out how many people
are going to pre order it and if they're going
up to one hundred and fifty bones, probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
A lot of people are gonna buy it, right right right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, Oh well that's that. That's that's my story and
I'm sticking to it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Which it looks by the way, like uh oh, there's
a dogging can throwback collection. You can get a sun Drop,
a Dale Junior Son Drop di cast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Now Sundrop dropped up and then picking up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
You can get Mike Joy is going to be in
on this. You can get the Josh Barry die cast
from the Race five of them, seventy five bones for
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Kids don't worry about Christmas and I got a cover.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
They got the Kyle Larson Kellogg's one, they got that one,
they got they got Ryan Blaney with the Dutch Boy thing,
the min Artis thing, and who cares about that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Oh though the one that his dad, his dad wents.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Oh but that, but that one's just the one sixty fourth.
So that was only eleven bucks. Eleven bucks for a matchbox.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Come on, guys, that's crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
That's nuts. They do have for the for the big ones.
Oh they do have. They have a big one, and
they have a seventy five dollars version of that one.
And then they got the exalta of the twenty four. Ummm,
they got the Joey the Joey Logano one, and then
they got the Ally like the just a black Ally car. Okay,
all right, oh that was that's right. That was the
Jimmy Johnson that year that he did the black and

(01:09:38):
silver for the for the championship. Yeah. Sure, whoa, you're
Chase Elliott Action Racing UNIFORSE Darlington Throwback Car one nineteen
ninety nine and everybody one hundred twenty dollars there one
twenty whoa? That is pretty crazy. Let's the elite. That

(01:10:03):
is the elite. So yeah, I guess that explains that,
all right, So let's get it into Bristol Man Bristol
this week. We'll find out whether we get any good
short track racing or whether it's more following the leader.
How many cars do we have in this one?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Thirty nine?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Who are the people we got?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
We got good old uh uh uh core Cody, Corey
leoy Oh that's right in the O one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yep, sure for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yes, he loved making his Cup debut, and the Richard
childres nice and Ja running for Carl Long. Come on, Blicky,
get up whatever sixty sixteen or what the hell they
sixty six?

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah, yeah, sixty six so they'll be in there. Okay. Cool?
That brings us the only good thing on NASCAR dot com.
With Chase subsequently ruined. Then they made it all ry
for a while, and now it's it's getting better. I mean,
they have eighty three paint schemes for this triple header
at Bristol this weekend. Not a lot of crazy stuff
going on. But what do you like of what they

(01:11:02):
have here?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Give me that, Give me that flannel bush light, give
me that right on, right on. That's that looks that
looks fastive. You would think that's more like towards the
end of the year. Yeah, exactly, more winter Christmas, Christmas season,
exactly a situation that we had a like I said
earlier in the show, we had a frost warning there. Yeah,
so the hell, who's the who am I to say?

(01:11:27):
Scroll button two point zero coming down? You know, there's
some decent ones. Ones, there's okay ones like it's nothing,
nothing that jumps off the page and makes me horny
for for racing. But uh god, yeah, scrolling down to
the X series. X series usually has some not a
lot this week that are knocking me on, knocking my

(01:11:50):
socks off. You know what, Ryan ellis number seventy one,
four Loco Camoh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
The four Loco Man. That was pretty wild. I like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, like like it's a can't Why why you need
a Camo man? You need a Camo dog. Shout out
to the shout out to the seven and seven trucks
looking at the exact same awesome love love you guys
did that and confuse the hell out of your own
And then the seventy one is the same car. You

(01:12:22):
know what, maybe that's what we need. If if if
this works and they do well, the livery situation could
be the greatest thing that ever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Just all three of them, like finish great, I'd be perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
And uh, you know what, give me the manscaped the
number sixty six of Josh Blicky Testicular Cancer Society as well.
So you can't uh can't front on that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with man, let's see here, I'm
gonna go with uh Tyler Tamasi the sixty six car
in the in the Xfinity series. Ellie product it has
got like a little little dude, little cartoon dude wearing
a's a YouTuber? Is it a YouTuber? Yeah? Oh no way,

(01:13:08):
Oh man, I should shouldn't have picked that. I do
find it weird that Ellie Productions is on Tyler Tomasi's
car instead of Ryan an Ellis's car. They should they
should be on Ran Analysis Carl Lis Elie Productions.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Oh no, but think's got the four local camera though.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, I know, yeah, he's got a batter one here right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, Ellie Production YouTube has made enough money to sponsor
a car.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
That's pretty crazy. What do they do?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
You know what they do? They do?

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
They do a lot of different things. Let me see
if I can bring up some of their I do. Listen,
they do a lot of interesting Okay, well that's good,
then stuff. Let me see. Hold, let me give you
some of the reacting to your paint schemes against the
caution conundrum U in terms of throwing a caution or
not con they're talking about Joey Logano.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
So they do Ascar stuff, Oh yeah, oh yeah, straight
nascars Oh okay, good, okay, all right again even even
weirdery good on them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
One's called the worst Championship Race when they talked about
the Truck Series Championship race. Oh no, they do. They
do a haters guy to the to the NASCAR twenty
twenty five season, sixty thousand views.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Okay, wow. And they can't afford a car on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
That apparently ship. So yeah, so that's and then and
they have one called the NASCAR personality problem.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
And then and then did something about Martin Shreex Junior
called Hallie Cheater became a champion.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Oh my gosh, that's kind of wrong, but but I
do find it hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Yeah, no, they do. He does a lot of good work,
so I mean, he puts, puts the time in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Okay, good good stuff. Then all right, so I'm happy
to pick that car. Then I will go brag Keslawski
and the number six Crow gross Kermier rustic of him
Ford that you referred to earlier, mostly because he's got
a giant sandwich on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Got a big sandwich with some bacon hanging off it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
And you gotta have bacon. And then the other car
I'm gonna pick is the Aaron's car.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah, that looks nice. Welcome back Aeron's second race of
the year. I think for Aaron sat Smith, we're prominent.
I think the other one was just like the logo
down they got the Leady They have the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Lucky dog on there. I love the Lucky Dog. He's good. Yeah,
So I'll go with the Aarons car for old time sake,
for Mikey. Do it for Mikey?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah? Shot out Jonny Benson too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Everyone forgets that the Aaron saved Johnny Benson's season when
Lekos went tits up on that Leco steal back in
twenty two thousand and one. Oh okay, all right, right on, Yeah,
so that was the number ten car in there. So
then we got to I can't remember where I put
stuff on a daily basis, but I can tell you.

(01:15:44):
I can tell you that that number ten ride I
had Aaron's rent after the Lekos situation.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
I didn't remember that ship. I'll tell you that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Yeah. That's my foreign vaults and just finding out just
different things and things that I like from years and
years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
No, Scotty Wise is always been the rain man when
it comes to paint schemes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Yeah, not the rain king, like like counting curds saying it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Far far more than I ever will be. But but
when you bring them up, I typically remember him. I
remember the le likeos car, but I don't remember any
static with Lecos.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Like going yeah, well the Licos Likekos was the deal
where Johnny Benson ran super well the dayton of qualifying
and they slapped on the stickers like the day of
the five hundred and he finished like fourth or fifth
or some shit, right, and then they did like a
ten race deal and then they're gonna shut down shop.
And then Aaron's Wrench just started to sponsor. Everybody remember
that time that uh oh no, that was Camping World.
We're Camping World.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, yeah, sponsor everybody. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
All right, now we're now we're at Bristal picks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Yeah, so, uh, last week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
You won because I had Kyle Larson and and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Here's the thing, I almost I almost last week picked
Anny Hamlin. It was like, oh, he's gonna go back
to back and I was like, nah, I can't do that,
and so I picked Baba and Bubba.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Didn't even have want great race twenty one, but I
finished thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
So exactly do we have a side bett?

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yes we did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Who won the side bet? I won by a spot man?
We were pretty close to Yeah, because Austin Hill finished
thirty first. I picked thirty second. You picked twenty nine.
Oh man, that one, well we picked that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
We got a like pretty good over under on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Then yeah, I think I think we picked the exactly
what we thought it was gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Yeh yeah, exactly. So that brings us to this week.
You excuse me, We'll get the entire field to pick
from at Bristol. Who who do you like in this one? God?

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Who do I like? That's a really great question, man,
could he?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
I don't think so, but go ahead if you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Could, he though I don't know man, I think he
could really, really, I think he might. You never know,
Chase Elliott.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Oh okay, all right, right on? H I thought you
were gonna say Kyle Busch because he's always been awesome here,
But I, oh, man, I just can't not not not
with the way he's run this year, this year, in
last year. I should probably pick either Larson or Logano,

(01:18:20):
but I'm gonna go out on the limb here even
though he hasn't done ship this year. Give me Brad Keselowski. Okay, yeah,
give me Brad, Give you Brad. I should I probably
should have looked at more stats before I made that pick.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
That's what's fun in that. But but yeah, you know what,
pick them vibes, brother, pick them vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Yeah, I'll go Kez on this one. See what we'll
see what we get?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Yeah? How about the how about the little Jesse Love action?
H Jesse Love whose real name is Jesse Hill Michael
Gregory Love Junior. Really yeah? Uh? Twenty years old out
of Menlo Park, California.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Oh me, oh, Menlo Park? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Right on? When the ARCA Series in twenty twenty three
won the ARC West in twenty twenty twenty twenty one
when the Bay City Racing Association Midget Division twenty eighteen
City ruler Yeah U Sack Speed two Western US Dirt
Midget Series Champion sixteen and seventeen and twenty seventeen won
the Speed to Western US Asphalt Midget Series, as well

(01:19:28):
as the twenty twenty four Exfinity Series Rookie of the
Year last season. Currently driving in the number two for
Richard Chuldiers, that Vauante car that has turned out so
many drivers into the Cup series. What do you think
about some Jesse love situation there? I will put this
out here. In the Xfinity Series at Martinsville, he has

(01:19:49):
finished in the ninth spots last year or sorry, he's
in Bristol, right, Bristol?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah, he finished fourth. It looks like in Bristol.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Yeah, don't mind me with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
What I say.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
I don't know what I'm talking about. Bristol, Yes, for
the food City three hundreds. But he's a good short
track guy. It seems like two. Like I said, Martinsville
finished ninth. Yeah, yeah, Darlington he's finished eighth. Not necessarily
short track, but it's there. Nast really finished third.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Eh, interesting and his wins are a tallad again Daytona's
so it's interesting rolling him out in a in a
super speedway race for the first one man, give me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
They're thirty nine in this race and he's racing a
children's car as well, he's racing a childress car. Give me.
I'll set the over under at twenty eight mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
I canna go a little higher, but not much higher. Okay,
go twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Okay, I'll take the under on that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Yeah. Really for the over, I guess that's technically basically
twenty six and a half is the midpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Yay, I'll take I'll take everything over twenty six and
a half.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Yeah, that works. I think I think you're in a
better position. I think for some reason, I think he'll
have he'll fare better at a shorter track because it
seems that, like with his USAC background, Okay, could be
a little bit better, but we'll see. Okay, Okay, we're
kind of vibing in the same area.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Tho. Yeah, yeah, So there we go. So Scotty Wats
has Chase Elliott in this race, I have Brad Kiselowski.
When it comes to Jesse Love, I'm picking him to
finish twenty eighth. Scott is picking him to the finish
twenty fourth. If you want to uh, if you want
to find out who wins the race, who wins the bet,
who wins the side bet, whether it was any good
or not. Because you're probably not gonna watch, come back

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Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Um, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
That's all for Wilson. I wants to care yourself and
someone else's been in the draft of Wilson and Wanda
the little history lesson for you here. On the one
hundred and first day of the year whoa April eleventh, uh,
four ninety one, Flavius Anastasius becomes a Byzantine empire with
the name of Anastasius. One. Also later in life became
the hype man exactly public enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeahs Antasius.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, boy, the what do we have here? The premiere
seventeen twenty one, the premiere of John Sebastian Box Saint
Matthew's Passion nice at Saint Thomas's Church in liz Ping happened.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Yeah, he ended up being part of van Halen too, right,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
No, no, no, that was poison.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Oh poison, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Yeah. Uh. Eighteen fourteen the Treaty of Fontainebleau the War
of Six Coalitions against Napoleon Bonaparte and forces him to
advocate unconditionally for the first time. Also, uh, in Glenn
Burney there was a place called Lafontaine Blue. Don't think
it's really connected.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
There was, Yes, it might still exist.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
It's somehow still standing, but very I'm sure it could
be condemned at any minute.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
They had two of them. There was one in Balmer
and one in College Park.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
That's three of them, because there's one in glen Burney too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
So oh wow, and that's Oh I've never been to
the one in the Bernie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Yeah, no, one of them. Bernie has been there forever.
And like I said, oh, they've they've all been there forever.
A lot of a lot of water damage, I guarantee, exactly.
On nineteen fifty seven, United Kingdom agrees to Singaporean self rule.
So congratulations to the Singaporeans. I didn't know it was Singaporean.

(01:24:12):
That's something new for me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
That is no, that's what they call it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nineteen sixty eight, Lyndon B. Johnson signs
the Civil Rights Act in nineteen sixty eight, prohibiting discrimination
in sales, rentals, and financing of housing. Guess what, kids,
we're rolling that one back. I'm pretty sure here in
a couple of days. Good luck, good luck to all
you on that. Everything's wild here man. The Apple one

(01:24:38):
is created in nineteen seventy six. Oh wow, No, Steve Watson,
the Act designed that sum bitch, Steve job stolen that
not that familiar with the Apple one, Aple one. I
thought it was a spaceship at first, Like that's the computer.
It's the first Apple computer, folks for sure. Yeah, Yeah,

(01:25:00):
that's a bad one. That's a bad one. That's a
bad one. Pair of earthquake is never good, by.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
The way, by by the way, on trip Advisor, not
the best reviews for Lafonte Glenberg.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Really you don't say, you don't say, you don't say.
Oh no, man, I thought they would knock that out
of the park. Oh, Happy birthday this day in seventeen
fifty five to James Parkinson, an English surgeon, a patherian geologist, paleontologist,

(01:25:34):
and political activist, best known for his eighteen seventeen work
and essay in The Shaking Palsy Okay, which then would
be later renamed for him Parkinson's Disease. Wow, okay, all right,
he took a shaky premise and made it good for people.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Wow, it's not good. It's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Anyway, folks. I'm gonna go to Lafontaine Blue right now
myself the time you guys enjoy the weekend at Bristol.
It's Worfa way and we will talk to you guys
next week about it. Until then, please

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Thanks for listening to In the Draft with Wilson and
Waz
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