Street King SVG, Courtroom Chaos for 23XI

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dark George and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fun poking like hell now coming down and.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome everyone in the draft with Wilson and was I'm
Wilson here in sunny southern California. Meanwhile right across the
internet from your beautiful studio by the Bay, version two
point zero. It is, well, mister Scottie, was what's happening
in there? Was?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Man, I'm just finishing up the crow I was I
was eating.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh I thought you were actually watching the movie The Crow.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
No, no, not the one that murdered the Brandon Lee.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Then well then I was gonna ask you was it
the original or was it the remake? Because I believe
there was a remake like a couple of years ago.
I think it flopped pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Of course it did. It didn't have Brandon Lee because
he's dead exactly. It would be hard to recreate that.
But no, we we both should be eating some crow.
The Catherine leg I know.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Not only did she qualify for the race, extra ran
well now, I mean I mean that that's easier to
do when like ten cars just waded themselves up in
one of the lanes and then you can just drive
around it. But still she finished like really well.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeap, top twenty and I mean, let's be honest, like
like road course, other road courses and speedway tracks just survive. Yeah, yeah,
what she did? Yeah, more disappointed than Corey him though.
It seemed that a lot of the qualifying for Chicago
was weird and that kind of gave us a little
weird results because I mean, I think Denny Hamlin's motor

(01:34):
blew up oh nice in qualifying, so I mean that's
why he was so far back and start last, but
he still climbed up through the whole thing. Yeah, but yeah,
I mean the Chicago race, this was more bedlam than usual,
and the weather wasn't that bad to begin with, so
it's kind of weird that you know, they were out
there and the track was seemingly okay, and then you know,

(01:55):
jost of Ar gets crazy and then that piles up
fifty five thousand people because Spoders don't know what the
hell's going on.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Exactly, just ran into the wall and just start bouncing
all over the place, and everybody ran into him.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Those nuts. This race stinks right, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right, So okay, and that's a tough one. And I
don't know if they're gluck numbers I'm hoping that there are.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm pulling up the gluck number.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeh, yeah, you know. And I feel bad because not
only did I get the Catherine l like thing wrong, but
I literally during the picks was like, I should double
down on SVG, but I'm not gonna do that. I'm
gonna go with the dinger instead, and then freaking SFG
wins the race. But I'm torn because as far as

(02:39):
it pertained to everybody in the field not named Seaman Gisbergen,
Michael McDowell, and then I guess you could throw in there,
maybe Ty Gibbs and aj Allmendinger right outside of those guys,
and maybe a little brisk going there too. Everybody else
they were just like mad man, Like nobody can figure

(03:02):
out how to race at this circuit without hitting each
other or stuff. And that's only because every place that
NASCAR goes doesn't have constrictions on the track, right, Because
We'll go to Sonoma this weekend and people will be
like fifteen feet outside of the track during that one

(03:22):
section on the back side before they go into the
s's like everybody is like, like, I mean, they go
over the rumble strips and then they go twelve feet
in the other direction off the track, and NASCAR is
cool with that, and we saw that. It's the Americas.
We see that at the Roval, we see that at
Watkins Glen, like NASCAR never ever, ever enforces track limits

(03:46):
and so then when you get to a place like
Chicago where there are no track limits to enforce, because
it's literally walls on either side, these guys don't know
how to deal with it. And that's part of the
reason why SPG is so good here because he wasn't
racing in a series with street circuits when he raced
in Australia, but they observed track limits and so you

(04:07):
had to figure out how to go fast within the
actual boundaries of the track. And like NASCAR drivers, like
SPG has had a career of figuring out how to
do that, NASCAR drivers have had three opportunities ever to
figure out how to do that. And so it stands
to reason that Van gizberg In is better here than

(04:28):
everybody else, and it's going to be for a while
because the Cup drivers only get one chance a year
to learn how to race within the limits of the track.
And the end result when you put him there is
the thing, like the host of our thing, or like
I even think I put in the notes that like
at the end of the race, Bubba Wallace and Alex Bowman,
which I mean, they're just driving into one another, right

(04:50):
because they couldn't figure out a way to get around
without going outside the track limits, and it decided I'm
just going to bash into this dude until he spins out,
and then I'll go by and then you know, Ross
chess In was like, Hey, that looks like fun. I'll
get in on that too, and I'll start running into people.
And so from that perspective, no, it was a sloppy mess.
But when you look at what Shane van Gisbergen was

(05:11):
able to do well, Actually I was impressed by two people.
Michael McDowell was fantastic in this race. He was so
good and it so sucked that they had like problems
later on that prevented that great showdown, and I think
it would have been a great showdown between him and SVG.
But there were multiple times during this race because of
the pitch strategy that SVG found himself behind cars right

(05:33):
around tenth or so. And that last run was super
impressive because you had guys that were on the same
tire strategy as him, Guys that were off the tire
strategy that had track position, but they were knew they
were going to have to probably save a little bit
of fuel if everybody hadn't wrecked. But of course everybody
just started wrecking again. And he did such a good

(05:54):
job of finessing his way through a track that everybody
else was just trying to like elbow their way through,
and we're wrecking as a result. And so from that perspective,
I thought it was a good race because of what
SVG had to do to win. This was in Mexico City,
where he was just so much better than everybody else

(06:14):
that he just got ahead and built a big gap
and there was nothing you could do. He had to
race his way through the field multiple times. And so
when it comes to how he won the race, I
thought it was very good. When it came to the
vast majority of the drivers on the track, I just
thought that they were like a bowl in a china shop.
It was very reminiscent to me of those first couple

(06:36):
of races at the Roval.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, And I mean it's one of those things where
they just thought video games and like there's no damage
and we're just gonna bump in and grind. Like you said,
the track limits are just it is the great equalizer
for some of these guys and shows their will versus
skill in a big, big way. But I mean the
race itself has lost the luster. I think it's not
you know, it's not new anymore. It's not shiny saw.

(07:00):
The same thing with the clash. I'm sure we'll see
the same thing at Bowman Gray here in a bit.
We'll talk about later, and the same thing at du
what is it rock rocking ham right at the other one, Yeah,
we're gonna see that. You know, it happens. But I
mean this one's a little bit more more logistics and
more different optics about it. Especially when one guy kind

(07:21):
of dominates, or it doesn't necessarily dominate, but knows the
course a little bit better and knows how to get
through it. It's like a cheat code. You almost have
to start him at the back because he's like he's
gonna work the way through. It's just how long until
he gets there. It's it's amazing to me he didn't
get any stage points period.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, and those who were like pit calls and and
by the way, I think we both were thinking. I
think we're both thinking rocking him instead of North Wilkesborough.
Thank you, yes, and but but yeah, they they had
the choice, and it was very interesting because he had
the choice at the end of both of the stages

(07:57):
whether he was gonna stay out and get the ten
playoff or get the ten bonus points and the playoff point,
or whether they were going to come in and pit
early to get track position on the back side of
the of the break. And given the fact that he
had just won a race, and so he knew that
he would be in the playoffs as long as he

(08:19):
was in the top thirty six. But he's outside the
top thirty still, even after this win, he's outside the
top thirty in points. And so from that perspective, getting
those bonus points, you would have thought would have been
their priority. You know, if you can win the stage,
win the stage, and you'll figure out the positions on
the track later. But they played this race to win

(08:39):
from the beginning, and so he willingly, he seemed willingly,
gave up stage points in both stage one and Stage
two to line themselves up to have that position be
in that position, to potentially win the race, which he did.
It was a gamble and it paid off big.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Oh yeah no, And I think short short, short term
hurt for in term gainst the smart play on a
place like that, especially when you know your driver is
so good at a place like that. Gluck numbers twenty two,
eight hundred and sixty one people voting Wow, a far
cry from last week's showing of like thirty thirty some thousand.

(09:17):
How many people said it was a good race.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I think that a pretty good number said it was
a good race because there were res and people like Rex,
because it wasn't an SFG runaway. We got to see
Michael McDowell up there. The Pitt strategy put Trace Brisco
up there. You know, Todd Gibbs was making a run
at the end like it was in question, And there
was that one great the one great moment for me

(09:42):
in that race was aj Allmendinger and SFG on the
restart side by side. I mean, they both wanted it.
It's just that Ben Gisbergen was just way better. So
I'm gonna say that for me, if I had doted
on the scale of one to one hundred, I give
it like a sixty. So I'm gonna say seven the
seven percent said it was a good race.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Closer to your number. Sixty two point eight.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Wow, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Ranks number two of the three races, so right in
the middle of the pack. Last year's race was sixty
two point two. The first year was eighty four point
five because everyone was horny horny for a new race.
They really were. Yeah, So yeah, good times, great memories
on that one. I mean, I don't know, we'll get
to it in the news a little bit later, but
I mean it's just is is it is the Chicago

(10:29):
Street Race passe.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right, right, We definitely have to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, But I mean numbers wise, eh, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, two point one million on TNT. That is a
little bit more than last weekend, their first race. It's
hard to compare to last ones because they were both
on NBC. Right, So last year was three point nine.
The year before that the first race four point six,
because like you said, everybody had had a willie for
the for the new course. You know, all things considered,

(11:02):
given the poop number that they did last week, I
think two point one is probably a decent place, like
probably where you would kind of expect it to be
because obviously it was going to be all way off
of NBC. But for at least to come up a
little bit from last week, I guess is I I mean,
I would have hoped that it would have been closer
to three, but two point one is probably where they are.

(11:23):
I mean, we'll get a much better perspective up on
that when we get the numbers from Sonoma, because very
similar style racing and so so we'll know if if
it was just people didn't know it was on, or
if it was fourth of July weekend and they were
doing stuff. So I think that Snowmall gives a little
bit better interpretation of where they're at.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Rating swaz Expinnity series did BAFO at the box office too?
One point one three seven million last Weekend's.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
That sounds like a decent number for.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
US expert for actually absolutely it was up fifty one
percent locally regular area compared to the NBC affiliate last year.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow. Interesting, Wow, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, you lockdown, lockdown one station and keep it
on over the air TV and you're doing great. I
think this is I mean, this is many times that
we've had over a million people for Infinity like this
is probably the majority of the season, if not two
thirds of the season has been over a million people
on the CW network, So are paying attention and they're retaining.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, and I think it deserves to be pointed out
that Shane ven gets Breaking won that race too, and
he won both races from the pole, and that's only
the second time that's ever happened. The only other driver
to ever win the ex and the Cup race from
the pole in both was Kyle Busch, and I believe
that was like two thousand and seventeen. I want to

(12:45):
say it was several years back.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, around there, yeah, I think around that area.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, but only two people have ever done that, so
it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah. Good, good call, good call for them. But I mean,
I mean, listen, thing that we're all all about is,
of course, the standings and the end season tournament. The
end season tournament since uh.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh my gosh, I'm telling you, dude, that's freaking the
season tournament real quick. I run through the standings. Oh
by by the way, there was a bit of controversy
on the final lap of the race, or right before
the final lap of the race, Cody Where ran into
the tire wall. Oh yeah, and they didn't throw those
Holy it was, I mean, and it was on TV,
so it wasn't like NASCAR didn't see what was going on,

(13:31):
even though after the fact they claimed they didn't know
how bad it was. Where was on his radio, He's like,
I'm in the tire wall. Like I'm in the wall.
And NASCAR waited to throw the flag for a pretty
long time. And Shane mean Gisbergen was coming into the
final turn and then of course there's a run down
the front stretch to the start finish line. They still

(13:52):
hadn't thrown it, and then magically, right after he crosses
the Star finish line, then they throw. They throw the
flag right, and that had people talking, and I get
that because that's inconsistency on NASCAR's part in general. Although
we have seen so many times in the past NASCAR
hold the flag on the final lap of the race
or close to the final lap of the race, that

(14:14):
it's not inconsistent with how NASCAR does things. It's just
that NASCAR is consistently inconsistent when it comes to final lap,
second to last lap of a race with somebody wrecking
should that have been a caution? Probably? Was it going
to affect the end of the race?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I don't find man it was those restarts were whacky.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, if they were yeah, if they would have
thrown it, then yeah, the restarts were whacky and Todd
Gibbs was being ultra aggressive, and so maybe maybe there
was a chance that it would have affected the end
of the race.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Maybe I will say this, and then there's someone from
the stands. I can't remember if it was on TikTok
or Instagram or something. I saw the other side of it,
like at the turn where Cody Rare just just forgot
his breaks and the and the flag guy who was
right there, he almost got his arm taken off O
my because he was just waving the blue flag, just

(15:09):
like hey, look there's a turn.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Here's a turn here, and tires are coming right toward him.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah yeah, well no, Cody wear is coming right Oh gotchak.
And then he keeps that blue He just keeps waving
that blue flag and then like eventually the yellow comes out.
But for a while, it's it's almost like the track
the track people didn't coordinate either to see how bad
it was. Interesting, So I mean, that could have been
a situation too where a communication era amongst everyone on

(15:35):
the track and the track spotters could have been the
cause for the delay because they're like, oh no, maybe
he'll because they probably didn't know how bad it was either.
Maybe they just he just didn't know how to slow down,
and they're just like, I'll just back up and then
we'll just do a local caution or what have you
and then go from there. But uh, yeah, it is
It is kind of interesting that just the minute he

(15:56):
crosses that, it gets gets the white flag and then like, oh,
the next flag ends it and then here comes the caution.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, And I mean do I think NASCAR was trying
to engineer it that way? No, there's no real reason to,
you know.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Because they would have liked that that that and that's
why the communication thing comes into because I think they
would have liked that beaten and banging towards via.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Sure, they would have loved I mean, how many times
has NASCAR they literally had a legitimate, purposeful bullshit caution
in the All Star Race? And how many times have
we seen them throw bullshit cautions to line up in
exciting finish. So yeah, if NASCAR, if NASCAR had that opportunity,
you think they would have taken it. So yeah, I

(16:35):
don't think there was anything lascivious about them not throwing it.
I think it was just they did a bad job
of assessing.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
The situation, you know, terrible timing, terrible.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
So in the standings. In addition to Denny Hamlin having
those problems earlier in the weekend, so do William Byron.
He had problems with his car in practice or qualifying.
They tore it apart, put it back together. Whatever they did,
they must have left out a boulder two because apparently
he's clutch failed like right off the bat like on
lap one, and so because of that, Byron dropped a

(17:10):
ton of points to chase Elliot his lead, and the
standings is now down to thirteen for the regular season
champions championship and the max number of playoff points that
go along with it. Kyle Larson has only a couple
of points further back, nineteen out in third. So we've
got a real race brewing now because Byron has really
dropped off over the last couple of races, while Elliot's

(17:31):
gotten better and Larsen has just kind of been consistent.
But that's pulled them right back in. And we've got
three top name drivers that are all within twenty points
of the lead with only nine races to seven races,
seven races to go before the playoffs. So that's your
season challenge right there, is who's gonna who out of
that trio is gonna win, you know, the regular season championship.

(17:55):
Then you get Denny Hamlin fourthis forty three back. Tyler
Reddick rounds out the top five forty eight back, but
NASCAR will throw the caution to make sure Tyler Reddick
doesn't win anything. The rest of the top ten bell
blaming Chestnain, Briscoe, and Bowman, so all the be drivers
and one of the Sea drivers. And then at the
bottom of the sixteenth top sixteen, this is where things

(18:16):
get really weird. All right, So Kyle Busch is sixteenth,
but we now have three winning race winning drivers outside
the top sixteen, John Hunter, Nimacheck, Josh Barry and SVG.
So the cut line is still in thirteenth, Like it.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Was like, wa, wait, wait, when did John Nimacheck win?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, that's not John Nima. Check in Austin Cindric, Thank you,
Austin Cindric So yeah, Sindric Barry and SVG. So the
cutline remains at thirteenth just like last week. That driver
is still Bubba Wallace, but he's only two points ahead
of Ryan Preees and thirty three behind Chris Busher. Chris
Busher is actually in the in between those two guys,

(19:01):
and twelfth is Joey Logano. He has a win, so
he has a factor into this. So still a really
close battle for the final spots and on points if
the playoffs would start today. Of course, Sha being gisberg
In has already won a race. This is his second
win of the year he believe it or not. It's
only the fourth driver this season with multiple victories. The

(19:23):
only other ones are Byron who has three, Larson who
has three, in Hamlin who has three, and so he
becomes the fourth multiple victory driver. We now have twelve
winners after nineteen races. Like I said a moment ago,
seven to go before the playoffs, so we're looking more
and more like we are going to get a couple
of drivers in on points here, which is kind of

(19:43):
what we thought at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I don't think we thought it would be this
close though, Yeah, I think considering all the guys who
are outside of the top thirty, well, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
The fact that we've got that We've got Sonoma this weekend,
so that could be a bit of wild card, and
then of course Daytono, so you know, two wild cards
minimum in the seven race span.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Plenty of actions still to come.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, So let's dive into the NASCAR news because we
had a couple of big developments this week. Actually, let's
talk about the un season challenge before we talk about
the loss and stuff, because you had already brought that
up and we wanted to get there after the championship.
It keeps getting shittier and shittier.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
There's no there's no drama.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It is so ridiculous, all right.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's a typical question. You see this in marketing. Who
is this for?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Who is it for? At this point? Who wasn't for
to begin with? Right with the weird seating system. So
we talked last week about how there were only a
couple of like big name drivers left, like really notable
drivers left. Chase Elliott was one, he's out, William Byron
was another. Yeah, I think William Byron was still in.
I can't remember he's out right. So now we're down

(20:57):
to our round of eight, and here are your matchups.
On one side of the bracket, these guys. Two of
these guys will eventually fight for the final spot on.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Their side, hopefully for real, I hope.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So yeah, you've got Bowman and Bowman, by the way,
with that like bitter confrontation, back and forth, beating and
banging on bub Wallace and those guys were at it
all day long in Chicago. They were actually racing each
other in this tournament. So you got Bowman versus Ty Dylan,
not even Austin Dylan man Ty Dylan. And then on

(21:33):
the other side, John Hunter Nima Check versus Eric Jones.
You want to talk about two compelling matchups, Jesus. Then
on the other side, we've got Ryan Preees versus Tyler Redick,
and then Ty Gibbs versus Zane Smith. Of course, my
pick after the disaster last week was Zane Smith will

(21:55):
win the whole thing, I think. So we're still on
track for that, and we're still in track for a
Zane Smith Hi Dylan finale.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I hate everything about it is so dumb. I hope
we get a tied Dylan Zane Smith final.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I do just to teach him a lesson, right, just.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
To be like, now now you we're gonna rub your
nose in it. No, because you're gonna do nothing with
them after this anyway, Exactly terrible terrible decisions.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I mean, we still have like Alex Bowman has a
couple of fans, right, he's at least in the forty
a car, a Hendrick car, right, yeah, and then Raddick
of course twenty three eleven. But he was a regular
season champion last year. As we all know. If he
is ahead of Ryan Priest this weekend, they will throw caution.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Last thing NASCAR is going to do is let them
have anything. But yeah, one of those eight drivers is
going to be your in season Challenge champ.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
One of those eight, and you have at least one
legacy Motor Club driver going to be in the final four. Yes,
two teammates face off against each other.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
YEA.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Exactly who is this for? Everybody answer? And Jeff Jeff
Gluck should do a poll on that. Who was this?
Who is this when we do an autopsy of this
season races? Who was this for?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
At this point, I'm rooting for it to be like
Zane Smith and Tie Dylan, Like that's what I.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Want want The chaotic option is the only option.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Now. Alternately, I would allow Tod Gibbs versus Tie Dylan,
because I would make it more confusing to people outside
the sport. They'd be like, who wait, they're both He's
racing himself because they're both tie.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
And unfortunately they can't finish in the same spot to
make it a tie. And really, oh my.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Gosh, if Ties had a tie, that.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Would be amazing. It would make a Steevil Tart's head
blow up. Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
It is nuts, like zero, like big name drivers are left.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta. NASCAR's media team is
just scraping the bottom of the barrel to try to
find anything interesting. How do you pimp that?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like, how do you hype people up about that?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, you can't. There's there is zero There is a zero,
a less than zero chance that anyone has hyped up
for this in season tournament. I'm not I would not
be surprised if they abandoned broadcasting about it during this
race in Soinema.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I mean we would have to. We we should
go and look at we should go and look at
the NCAA tournament and and find out something is bad. Fine,
find out, yeah, find out what the what? What in
the round of eight? What the eight seed versus the
thirty two seed would look like? And the twelve versus

(24:38):
the twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, god, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
So that's that. But we've got bigger news. And the
reason why Tyler Raddick will not be winning the nd
Season Challenge or you know, getting into the playoffs unless
he wins a race is because of this NASCAR lawsuit. Right,
So we've had an update. And this was a relatively
small decision that could have relatively massive implications. So this

(25:08):
was not good news for twenty three eleven and FRM.
The Court of Appeals decided not to have a rehearing
on their reversal of the injunction that allowed them to
compete as charter teams this year. And to like kind
of like make that into like language, it's easy to understand.
So those two organizations sued NASCAR because they didn't sign

(25:32):
the charter agreement. Then they asked the judge, hey, can
you let us run as charter teams until we figure
this out? And initially the judge said, yeah, that sounds fine,
We'll let you do that. But then NASCAR appealed and
the three judge panel in the Court of Appeals was like, well, actually,

(25:54):
why should they make more money for when they aren't
when they haven't signed the steal, when they aren't part
of the charter SYSM them, So, no, we're not going
to allow that you guys to run as a charter team.
And then twenty three eleven and FRM, We're like, will
you guys please reconsider? And then the court said no.
So the long story short there is that after this

(26:17):
weekend in Sonoma twenty three eleven, all three cars and
all three cars of Front Remoter Sports they will no
longer be chartered teams. There will only be thirty chartered
teams on track in Dover. And I love it that
you read all of the articles online on this and
they say there's a chance or they might not be
charted teams. No, you think NASCAR is gonna leave them

(26:37):
with the charter and keep paying them money. If they
can take it back, they will take it back. I mean,
there's no way after everything we've seen in this court
case so far, that NASCAR is gonna is going to appeal,
win the appeal, and then be like, Okay, we won
the appeal, but we're gonna let you keep running his
chartered teams. No, they will be uncharted teams when they
show up in Dover. That means that they don't have

(27:00):
a guaranteed spot in the field. They're gonna have to qualify.
And more importantly, and this is really all all that
NASCAR cares about, is that they're not going to have
to pay those organizations the full share of the TV money.
They're only going to get basically the purse from the race,
and they're not gonna get the extra bump that you

(27:21):
get by being a charter team and you get like
a little extra chunk of that TV money. So, you know,
we've talked about this so many times before. The guaranteed
spot in the races is irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I mean yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I mean okay, So so thirty seven or thirty eight
cars show up instead of thirty six, you're still in.
And let's face it, even if forty one cars showed up,
that forty first car would be like Cody Ware or
Catherine leg And there's no way that Tyler Reddick or
Bubba Wallace isn't going to qualify.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Ahead of them, Well, never say never.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I guess not after after what we saw last weekend.
So that's the easy part to understand that they're just
gonna have to show up and qualify right, just like
the old days. The not so easy part is how
the back end of this plays out, And there are
kind of two levels to it. What happens to the
charters right now immediately, and what happens happens to those

(28:18):
charters at the end of the lawsuit. Because if if
the judge is basically saying, hey, for legal purposes, you
guys didn't sign the charter agreements, you are not chartered teams.
That means that six of those thirty six charters are
now technically unowned and I don't even know legally whether

(28:40):
they whether they retain I don't think they retain rights
to them at all. I think that they just go
back to NASCAR, right, And so I think so, yeah, yeah,
And so NASCAR could do whatever they want with them,
And theoretically, based on the new charter rules, NASCAR could
if they wanted to, they could reduce the field just

(29:02):
say okay, we have thirty charter cars each week they
could turn around and issue and or sell those to
other people that wanted to come into the sport. Or
they could according to this newest charter agreement, they could
just simply feel their own cars with those charters, Like
NASCAR could be like, we want to buy a car

(29:23):
off a Hendrick and just run our own Chevy with
you know, with Billy France the fourth or something like
that in the car, and they could do it and
they would have a guaranteed spot in the race. And
so we don't know what's going to happen with those
And then after the court case is over, right, so
let's say that twenty three eleven and FRM win the

(29:46):
court case. Now, where do the charters go as part
of winning? Does that mean they just automatically get them back?
What's the justification for them getting him back? And if
they don't win the court case, then what happens to
those charters. Do they automatically go back to NASCAR and say, okay,
well we'll let you sign the agreement now and you

(30:07):
can have them back, or do they force them to
buy them back and have to like pay their way
out of the lawsuit twice once to their lawyers and
then once to the NASCAR. I don't know what the
answers to any of those questions.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Sorry, well, I mean, first off, they lose more than
a third of their money that they would make, okay,
as if they would be charter cards. So they lose
less than a third of the money they would have
earned as a charter team. So that's a big thing financially.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
It is when you're trying to put on a competitive organization.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah. And also NASCAR had told teams to be prepared
for a season with thirty two charter teams in eight
open spots, and I can guarantee you two of those
charters would go to Legacy, because aren't they trying to
buy both off aware or one off aware?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
They are, But so I don't thinkuntil the lawsuit is settled,
I don't know that they're going I think that NASCAR
is as terrible as they are. I think for the
optics of it, they probably are just gonna sit on

(31:17):
those charters until.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
The lawsuit is server oh for sure. Yeah yeah, So
I mean, what do they have to lose? And I
think this is a big hit too, and we will
see how truthful. Denny Hamlin and twenty three eleven were
when it came to what this means for Bubba Wallace
and Tyler Reddick, because they were like, well, we can't
feel these two teams if we don't have a charter,

(31:41):
because I guess there were contracts in place in YadA, YadA, YadA.
We will see how truthful that is and how much
is tied up in it and all that other fun
stuff too. But again, it just keeps getting worse and worse.
For twenty three eleven in fr animal, which started off
as a valiant effort, is they flew too close to
the sun on paper wings, and then they started to

(32:04):
be like their case was great, and then they just
kept pushing and pushing and pushing other teams and other
sports and other motorsports entities and all this other stuff.
And it's just like, all right, I understand what you
guys are going for, but maybe less is more in
this situation because NASCAR was really backing himself into a
corner and you gave them a free out.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, they really did. And and the other reason
I don't think that NASCAR will do anything drastic with
the charters until the lawsuit is settled is because as
as pissed off? Is there about the situation they are.
They are all about making money, that's their number one priority,
and they'll be keeping more money because they weren't paying
those six teams that third of the money. And then

(32:47):
on top of that, they know that if they can
find a way the patches all up that Michael Jordan
in their sport is a good way to make money.
And so it would look like double bad if they
like pulled the charter rug out from under those teams
and then like, sorry, Michael Jordan, we're gonna force you

(33:08):
out of the sport now because you can't have a
guaranteed spot in the field anymore. I don't think that
will go over well with like fans in general, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah no, But I think also the fans in general
kind of don't. I don't know if they if that
matters to them, unless unless your your favorite your favorite
drivers affect it all the Bubba Wallace fans and all
that stuff. But in general, I think the fans are like, Okay,
how is this gonna if if my team close up shop? Okay,
I'll be mad, but other teams have closed up shop before,

(33:39):
and I wasn't that mad, And you know, it'll it'll
bypass itself. I just don't think it's good optics for
NASCAR to take the charters and then just do nothing
with them, because it's just like, we're gonna take our
ball and go home now, while they're fully in their
legal right to do so. Does not look great in

(34:00):
the brother in the in the court of public opinion
for race car fans. It's just like and it also
is just like, man, this is turning into a bunch
of red hats here. Yeah, it would be it'd be
a dictatorship of NASCAR.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah. Well, and and that's well it could it could
look that way no matter what they do with them, right,
because if they were to sell them, then it would
look like they're just f and over teams and like
we can drive you out of the sport if we
want to. And then on top of that, just trying
to think it through, you know, because if yeah, it

(34:43):
will probably look bad in the sense that they would
be like it would look like they were forcibly driving
the team out of the sport, and so you know,
it would kind of fall into the argument that twenty
three eleven NFMB trying to make that you know, it
is a monopoly, and they can drive us out if
they want. They can just take our charter away and

(35:05):
they can, you know, prevent us from being in the field.
And there's nowhere else we can go and race with
these cars. And then at that point, if they do
try to sell the charters twenty three eleven, FRO might
have a much better case to go back to the
court and say, no, no, we can't race as open teams.
But we don't know what the outcome of this case
is going to be. We might win, and if we
win and those charters are sold to somebody else, then

(35:28):
we can never get those back, right, So that's irreparable harm.
And so now they could theoretically ask for a different
type of injunction that just simply prevents NASCAR from disposing
of those charters before the resolution of the case, and
they might have a better chance of getting judges to
stick to that as opposed to letting them run under

(35:48):
the charter rules and make the extra money on everything.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, now we're getting into that monkey the monkey part
of it. Oh yeah, hell yeah, I don't care like
I just theyigure it out, you guys. It's you know,
NASCAR is at fault for throwing this thing. It's like
sign it now, sign this under durest as we are
are wont to do as this is if this was
Russian sports. But I mean it's just it's just we're

(36:17):
figure figure out the money. There's enough money to go around,
but NASCAR wants to keep it all for all their
yachts and boats and things. But yeah, I'll be interested
to see how this all turns out going into Dover,
if there will be some kind of protest by by
the teams, if they get when they get their charters revoked,
and how this is all going to play out in

(36:37):
the in the in the grand scheme of things. So
much ado here in the next couple of weeks and
months about this whole situation and how it how it
furthers one one way and the other.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, it definitely m hmm. It definitely makes the words
of that judge, like I think it was when the
initial appeal was when when they initially throughout the injunction,
I think it was one of those judges was like, guys,
you need to think about whether this is all worth
it or not. And I really honestly think that neither

(37:11):
side has thought about what how how everything's going to
work out after there is a decision, because one side
will win, one side will lose, but it doesn't matter
what side wins or loses. Now, what do you do? Like,
I don't even know what happens at that point. I
don't even think they know what happens at that point.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
They don't care about, you know, figuring it out. Because
if that, if it were as easy as that, NASCAR
would actually gave the teams time to look over this
thing and sign it. Yeah, I guess, rather than eight hours. Yeah,
and at the track, and.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I guess in those situations it's it was a really
really long time ago. I was a pretty small kid
when they did the whole AT and T thing because
AT and T somebody followed me to trust suit against them.
Eight and T lost, and I believe it was the
court that came up with the resolution that would remedy
the monopolae situation, which was to break up AT and

(38:02):
T in the parts and then those parts individually got
sold off. So maybe it's the court that would then
decide what the proper resolution to this transgression is if
the team's win as opposed to NASCAR wins. But still
what does that look like? You know, I mean, how
do you even figure that out? I don't think anybody
has thought about this at all.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
No, we're an untreateded territories like this has never happened before. Yeah,
because this is the system is built on the house
of cards that is tumbling and falling and the NASCAR
is trying to pick it back up. And yeah, it's
not going as well as anything.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
It's crazy. Well, as soon as we know some more
about that, we'll keep you up the date. Although the
actual and I trust suit doesn't even begin until December first,
so yeah, I know. So this is gonna get drug
out all season long. Let's move on to somebody that
just came out, Like right before we sat down to
record the show, this news came out that Ram. We

(39:01):
already know that Dodge is or stillantis I guess is
their name. They are re entering NASCAR with the RAM
brand that is now separated from Dodge as far as
marketing is concerned. They're going to come back to the
truck series starting in twenty twenty six. Right, there was
some question as to how that was all going to
be implemented, like what team drivers, things like that. Well,

(39:25):
they've come up with such a great idea. Apparently, RAMS
CEO Tim Caniscus. That's a fun name to say. Caniscus Kimiski,
who just last week was named head of American Brands
for Stillantis, said that they want to market themselves boldly

(39:47):
and the keyword here differently in NASCAR, and so this
is from Sports Business Journal. RAM has been considering a
strategy that would partially partially involve working with celebrities who
cross over to the mainstream, and to that end, the

(40:08):
brand recently debuted a TV commercial called Never Stop Being American,
with somebody who will remain unnamed for a moment doing
the voiceover. And RAM has yet to announce the teams
for drivers will be part of their outfit, but has
been in talks with organizations that compete in trucks. And

(40:29):
I don't know. This is a very like chopped up
version of the Sports Business Journal, so they don't really
introduce it here, but apparently what they're thinking of is
doing a reality show for drivers to try to earn
a spot in a truck at a race next year. Now,
I don't know if that means all the races like
for the season or just a race next year, and

(40:51):
then they reference the raush racing thing that they did
in two thousand and five, which everybody remembers, and that's
why you should do it again because everybody remembered it
the first time so well, everybody remembered it so fondly
and was like, man, I wish we could have that back.
And then twenty years later they're going to get it.
But there is a difference here because if they're just
talking about a driver in a race, that's not what

(41:12):
Rash was doing. Ralsh was actually like doing competitions to
find their full time drivers.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like this was for real, This wasn't this was something
they did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, they was what they call it the Gong Show
or something like that. Yeah, And then everybody like that
became a hot topic and then somebody's like, oh, we
should make a TV show out of this that literally
nobody watched mm.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Hmm yeah yeah, and that was on Discovery Channel, and
you just like, well, why does Discovery Channel having this
kind of.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Now The best part of the story, which I think
is the headline that got buried by Sports Business Journal,
is that the person who is doing the voiceover for
their commercial and the person that they're partnering with h
to help be part of this reality show and their
marketing campaign is UFC's Dana White. I guess. I guess

(42:07):
they're on brand. Huh.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, it stays on brand with what they're saying with
the TV commercials.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I haven't seen it. I don't know. I'm gonna have
to look.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well, no, it's just the tagline being never stopped being American. Yeah,
it's great for a Dutch company to tell, you know, America.
But again, you know, Dana White had a you know,
The Ultimate Fighter has been a huge show for for
the UFC and for at the time Spike TV and
wherever the hell it is now. Uh So, I guess

(42:37):
it makes sense on a productions standpoint, I guess, But like,
wouldn't you if if you're if you're I mean roush
doing it was fine they're an established brand. If you're
a new team getting in here and wanting to make
an impact and actually make people care about your your brand,

(42:59):
when you want someone to established enough as it is, like,
wouldn't you want to try to lure someone away who
has name power and and get them in their truck
and maybe get a couple of good spots out there,
like it seems like if you're just doing this, Rando
Rando bs to get a driver out there, just so
you know, get a Cletis McFarland in there. And you know,
you finished twentieth in points in the first year. It's

(43:21):
not gonna you aren't going to give a good God
damn after that.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
And and Scottie passes marketing one to one for the
day because that that's exactly right. Like with the Raush thing,
it was a pre existing thing that they did. That's
that's the competition that they put on that produced Greg Biffel,
It produced Carl Edwards for them, and so there was
already this established thing, right and fans were familiar with

(43:49):
the team. They're already invested in the team. There were
drivers who they were fans of that were part of
that program, and so they were like, let's see if
we can market this by going through the problem again
and this time filming it and putting it on TV.
I can't remember what driver they found. It wasn't like
anybody nearly at that level, I don't think. But the

(44:10):
key there is that you were already invested, like there
was already something they care about you cared about RFK
Racing at the time, or at the time, I think
it was just Ralsh Racing. You cared about Ralsh Racing
because they were big in the sport already, like they
were established in the sport already, and you cared about
these drivers that came through the program, and so you
cared about whether they were going to find your next

(44:30):
favorite driver. Right and here, like RAM has been out
of the sport for several years now officially, and so
before you want people to watch your reality show, like
it's the Sean o'cnnor method of if you build it,
they will come. Like just because you have a reality
show doesn't mean that people care about it, Like if

(44:51):
they they aren't familiar with RAM and NASCAR anymore, they
aren't familiar with whatever team it's going to be, and
so there's nothing to care about. It's not like they're
going to find your next favorite driver. So I really
want to watch this because you don't even know you
don't even know what they're going to do on track.
There's nothing established there. And so the only reason that
people watch a TV show or get sucked into a
TV show is because they care about the characters. They

(45:13):
care about the people involved when you're talking about reality
TV show, and I think that when everything is such
an unknown, you know, new manufacturering, new team, you know,
new cast of potential drivers, like, there's nothing to care about,
and so you got to hope that the people you
pick are so compelling that in that first episode they

(45:34):
just reach out and grab you and pull you in.
And I think we've seen with so much NASCAR programming
in the past that they don't have those people.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I don't know, there's no there's
no any kind of anything in terms of personality. Interesting
to note from the twenty oh five Gong Show driver right, yeah,
got some names?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh yeah, oh you do? Okay, this would be very interesting.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
All right. So the guy who won the full time
Craftsman Truck Series ride, Eric Darnell, Okay, I remember him, yep,
had two wins over three seasons with Roush, would win
seven races in the Cup Series for Yates Racing, and
five Another guy who was in this, David Reagan, Oh, okay,

(46:21):
drove a little bit number in the number six f
one fift the truck series and then of course had
his time with Rausch and Front Remoter Sports and now
as a commentator.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Danny O'Quinn Oh, I remember that name too.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Won the ride for the number fifty in the Bush Series.
Didn't do too much after that in the grand scheme
of things. Pete Sheppard don't remember him, ran an ARCA
and then that was about it.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Matt McCall, Matt McCall, did he he end up becoming
a crew chief?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yes, he is a crew chief now so. Matt McCall
drove a couple of races in the number ninety rout
Yates Racing team in the Bush Series and then yeah,
was a crew chief over at chip Ganassi and now
works as the director of Vehicle Performance or spire.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh interesting, all right?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Another one Justin Algeier who knew I justin tire in
this one? Of course we all know how he's done.
Did the Scott Motorsports there part of Penske for a
minute now is just running shop with j Our Motorsports quick. Yeah.
Other name Bubba Pollard who did some Exfinity Arche Series

(47:38):
and ARCA East as well. Michael Pickens Australa or a
New Zealander who runs midget cars out there. Christy Passmore
a someone who drove in the Ark in the World
of Outlaws as well, Nevin George Wheeland Modify driver, Matthew
Jaskell who is a Indian five hundred spot or IndyCar

(48:02):
spotter now in the Indy five hundred with Alexander Rossi,
Jeff Cole Quick Runs Modified, Tim Anders who is engineer
and crew chief in the lower divisions. And that's it. Yeah,
that's the that's the bigger names.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, and so I mean there are at least two
or three guys that people have heard of there, you Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
And then guys had also kind of molded into other
positions as well after after that.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
So are we going to get like a field like that,
I mean to have we're talking about racing drivers, like
to get a couple that ended up doing something in
the form of you know, Reagan and Algier. You know,
are are we going to get that out of the series.
I seriously doubt it. I seriously doubt it because back then,

(48:54):
like we talked about, it was a genuine thing and
they were like doing it genuinely again and they just
happened to be filming it time. This is going to
be contrived from the start, Yeah, And so I mean,
I guess the upside of that is that you have
producers and people involved from the get go to pick
people that you think are going to be compelling personalities
as opposed to picking them based on their talent. But

(49:18):
the end of that, it all becomes like a marketing
and entertainment exercise, which I think is kind of what
they're looking for. It doesn't really become like something that
is going to establish a future star of the sport.
I don't think. I think the chances are very very
small of that, Yes, very much so. And so because
of that, I feel like with what NASCAR has done

(49:39):
in the past, combined with that, that it's going to
come across as forced and cheesy and not terribly compelling.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah exactly so. Yeah, we're we're we're going to see
how this all goes. If it even pans out that way.
I mean, you can say a lot of stuff, but
until it actually happens then, because you're gonna have if
you're if you're going to do it, you gotta get
on it soon because the twenty twenty six seasons coming
up here, so.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Exactly so, and if none of that works, I guess
I could just have Dana White run around, you know,
waving his flag, wearing his red cap and stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh man. So moving on to track news, I don't
think I skipped anything here. Now, track news, it's been
confirmed that the Clash will be returning to Bowmant and
Gray Stadium in twenty twenty six. I don't see anything
surprising in that at all.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, it's a already made spot.
You don't have to put too much extra money into it.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
It's close there, close teams and ROLLI Durham, and they
sold it out the first time. Because this is the
big comeback thing. It's a small place. They'll sell it
out again. And so this one I think is going
to be unlike the clash at the Coliseum. I think
this one is really going to be driven more by
sponsor interest in the ratings, because they're never have a

(51:00):
problem filling that place up for an actual NASCAR race.
They just aren't right, and they were having a problem
filling up the Colisseum, and it looked really bad because
place holds a lot of people and there weren't a
lot of people buying tickets. So they're not going to
have the optics problem at this place. It's on home turf,
and so until the viewership numbers go completely down the

(51:21):
toilet and the sponsors are like, yeah, this doesn't have
any pop anymore, we don't want to put our name
on it. Then I think they'll just kind of keep
going with this for a while.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah. I mean again, you're not You're not spending a
lot of money to put asphalt on the grass turf
every year, so exactly, and take all your cars out
west already. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, it's a cheap and easy race for everybody. But
the flip side of this is that in Chicago, where
we just ran, their contract is now up right.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I was kind of.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Would you say it's now option Oh yeah, yea, they're
now option years. Yeah. And I was relative surprised to
read this headline that the Mayor of Chicago was like, hey,
we wouldn't mind extending out the option years for two
more years, you know, for two more seasons. At this track,
I thought that the City of Chicago was going to

(52:16):
be like, so long and thanks for all the fish,
like we're not doing this anymore. But the mayor actually
said I'd be open to it with only one caveat,
And I'm shocked that it took this long for them
to say this. They won it on a different weekend,
And you know, when they announced this, I was like,
why on earth would they ever have agreed to do

(52:38):
it on July fourth weekend because I've never been to
Chicago for July fourth, But I know that it's a big,
big deal because I know people who have been there,
and I mean that they typically have a huge concert
with the Chicago Symphony and they set off all the
fireworks on the river and everything, and it's like a
massive thing that people come from all around the region

(53:00):
to see the fireworks in Chicago, kind of like when
we were kids, like the big thing would be, you know,
you go downtown to DC and you see, you know,
the fireworks in the nation's capital or whatever. And so
I was shocked in the first place when they said
yes to like disrupting all of that to bring in
a NASCAR race. Well, now finally they've come around to
that and they were like, you know, if you want
to do the option, that's cool, but we want to

(53:22):
look at a different weekend. And I mean, honestly, for
the for the city, it makes sense on so many levels.
If they're trying to get people to come into town.
Why would you want to encourage people to come into
town for a NASCAR race when you already have the
Fourth of July activities going on. It would be much
more beneficial to them from a marketing and revenue standpoint
to have that NASCAR race on a weekend where nobody

(53:44):
typically will want to.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Be coming to Chicago, right exactly, like October. Yeah, when
it's snowing.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
When it's snowing exactly, you have a lot of tourist
activity downtown, so you put on a big event, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, I think this is this could be this, This
could have been a Swan song.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I think it was the idea, especially with them looking
at other places for road courses. I mean, this is
the air street courses. This kind of is the Swan song,
which I mean good for Chicago to finally figured out.
And I'm sure that's because they were locked into that
three three year at fourth of Yourlyne right so under
previous administration. But I mean, yeah, I mean it was

(54:23):
it was a good test run. Execution kind of it
was okay, But I mean overall there's the griping about
it and the hype kind of died down a little bit.
But we'll see. We'll see if this will probably pass
on to San Diego next or wherever next. In Chicago's
were like, eh, we tried, we got our money, and
we got everything. We disrupted it people for three years,

(54:43):
so there we go.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah. I think if it was easy, then maybe there
will be an outside chance. But you're asking NASCAR toier
range for the schedule and move other tracks around, and
they're going to want to do that because everybody kind
of is protective of their weekend typically, and and I
don't think that NASCAR, NASCAR wants to explore other places
for street courses. And even they well I say this hesitantly,

(55:09):
but I don't think even they are stupid enough to
want to do multiple street course races in the year.
I think that they even know that one is the limit.
They might not, but they might and hope. And so
if one's the limit, then you know, and the fourth
of July weekend isn't working for Chicago. You find a
city that doesn't have major things going on for Fourth

(55:30):
of July weekend and you plunk.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
It there right exactly, or just throw it back to
Daytona again and then move the street course to another
weekend and.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Race on the beach in Daytona the July weekend.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
You I love it.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So all the people on vacationing on the fourth they
got to move out of the way the cars go
flying by. So yeah, So that's the latest for both
of those bowmen. Gray locked in Chicago talking about keeping it.
But I don't think it's going to happen. I don't
think Scotty does either. I'm down to sponsors now. I
don't know what else I might Yeah, so let's dive

(56:07):
into some sponsor news. If my slow computer will work here. Okay, Hurts,
this is strange. Hurts is going to be on the
number forty two car of John Hunter Nimachek. Not this
weekend it's Noma, but the weekend after that at Dover.
They don't have a rendering of the car out, which
bums me out because I think the car is going.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
To look bad.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Ass Hurts. His whole thing with their kind of racing
type of thing is black and gold, and they already
said this car will be black and gold. But what
is what?

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Does uh?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
What his legacy run? Did they run?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
No? Wait, they run? Do they run?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Toyota. Now I thought so, I thought, I think they do.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I think you're right. I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Yeah, And so that's the This is the weird part
about that, uh for me, is that Hurts is very
famous for having like the rent eraser thing where you
can rent like that. Very fancy.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
My brother in Christ, what's up there?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Is?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
There is a car?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Oh, there is a car.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
There is a car.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Oh, I'm trying to I'm at the Legacy Motor Club.
Uh page, it's.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
It's on their Facebook page.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Wait wait is it all right? Hang on here? Why
they don't have it on their website but they have
it on their Facebook page. Let me let me go
to their Facebook page. And so they are like, oh wow,
they've changed their head or and everything to be black
and gold, black and gold, black and yellow, black and yellow.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Oh no, I think it's on Hurts page.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Oh wait, no, I see it. I see it. Wait?
Is that for this weekend? Hurts and John Hunter Nima
chek if it Hurts that we have to wait another
week to see this one on track? And it looks
like it's black, gold and white.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Huh yeah, white white with a primary color gold like
a rose gold across like the front bumper up into
the like I like.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
That black fade on the back bumper though. Yeah, it
looks pretty good. Okay. So so I see they've done
it a little bit differently, which makes sense because Hertz
has this program and then they've had it for years
where they have like these souped up cars that you
can rent. They're all jet black with gold racing stripes,

(58:18):
but they're all always Mustangs, they're Shelby's and there. So
I was like, why are they doing this with a
Toyota team when there are forward teams and they could
have a Shelby like Mustang in the race. But I
don't know. I guess I guess uh. Legacy did a
better job getting them.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
To say, yes, yeah, it's all it takes.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I was hoping the car will be all black with
us some with some gold, but I'll take what they've
I'll take what they've done. I think it looks good.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I think it runs with what's what the Legacy has
been running this year with a primary white base as
theirs their color.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, and then in other Legacy news, Dollar Tree, who
was already on their cars, they've extended their deal with
both John Henry image Check and Eric Jones both their cars,
the forty two and the forty three. Previously, they did
have a multi year deal which I think was a
three year deal that Prequelly like was there before it

(59:12):
became legacy. This is an extension of that, but in
the release they didn't say how long the extension was. Four,
so it's at least twenty twenty six and then maybe beyond.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
It's multi years.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
So yeah, so I guess twenty six, twenty seven and
something else.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
It's probably a twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
It could be it could be. Yeah, it could have
been like four and then they do another four. Michael
Roberts Construction. It's going to be on the number thirty eight.
That's the Zane Smith carr at Sonoma in hopes that
he will advance to the round of four in the
un season tournament, and then something called Project Zin is

(59:52):
going to be on the number twenty one Michael McDowell
car this weekend at Sonoma. This is apparently a partnership
with their regular.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Sponsor number seventy one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
By the way, oh I did say twenty one, Sorry,
seventy one, You're right. So this is a partnership with Cambridge,
who has been on the car multiple times this year,
and this charity I'm assuming this z in stands for
like zinfandel is they do like dining and like wine
tasting type of events, you know, fancy events for people

(01:00:23):
in San Francisco. They used that to raise money to
give the charities. So it's a charity thing, and so
it's it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Okay, good for them. Yep, congratulations. I thought I thought
it was just a project of getting people onto that
pouch tobacco, I know, right, so glad, because I'm like, man,
doesn't Kurt Busch already do that? Or Kyle Busch already
do that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
So somebody has him, right, somebody has them on the car.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Kyle has it on the because that was the big
thing when he went to Mexico, is that Kyle couldn't
have any sponsors anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well all of his sponsors are
a little little sketch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah exactly. They couldn't fold it any minutes exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Um, So there we go. That's your sponsor news, which
then brings us to Sonoma, one country out on my
side of the country over here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah. By the way, apparently Bubba Wallace would not have
made the race last week if they're charters yet. Really, yeah,
because I guess you didn't make you didn't beat up
Corey him, or you're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Just saying that Catherine Leg could be the spoiler the
rest of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Well, she's in the race this weekend, so I know, right,
we'll see seasons number thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah, so it doesn't It doesn't make a difference this week.
But I'm very curious. You said there are thirty seven cars, Yes, yes,
thirty seven Okay, so so they would make it all
in this time there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yep, we'll have to see later on in the air
if they hit the Catherine Leg button, if there's like
forty cars and like bring.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Her in exactly, that car will just start fielding cars
for just to try and see if they can screw
over twenty three eleven or FRM.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
That would be wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Oh man, that is something they could theoretically do. If
they can field cars there on their own, they could
just start stacking the field with like fillers with guaranteed spots.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I don't know if that helps the whole monopoly thing. No,
rightat that a little closer to the best that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Would be like the classic double middle fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Oh no, sorry, guys, there are already thirty six cars
in this field. There's sixty you You guys got to
fight it out for four spots.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Sorry, oops, hoopsy, guys, sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Don't mess up and qualifying right. Oh man, So thirty
seven in this one is Catherine like the only non
charter driver that's in non charter wow. And that, of
course takes us to the only thing on NASCAR dot com.
Whi chips subsequently ruined, and then they made it good
again for a while and it was just kind of okay,
which is whirred is now it's okay, Now it's pretty good.
Now it's the the paint scheme Preview sixty four paint

(01:02:53):
schemes to choose from here A lot of repeats from
last week, probably because the distance they got to travel
and have time to really do too much. But what
do you like?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
What do you like? I think there's one that we
might agree on, so I might leave that one for you. Okay,
you'll take the number sixteen. Big SIPs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Oh yeah, that that car looks really good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, big zips. Alcoholic wine wine Atalina Wine mixer gimmick. Yeah,
they got going on there, So I congratulations to that.
That looks pretty cool. It looks very nice. It looks
very like early two thousands. It does for sure, the
neon and everything like that. And I also like to say
big soups, you know, the forty two of one hundred

(01:03:35):
John Hernanimerchek doesn't look too bad. That mobile one scheme
does not look terrible at all, So I will put
that on my list. The nice gradients and yeah, I like,
I like how.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
They switch that up. I don't know what the like,
like what the inspiration for that is. If it's like
some program they're doing, but it looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, so like in Twilight Colors on the By and Larne, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Not Twilight the movie. That would just be a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Black it'd be smart.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
And we have with some sparkles and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
And then the one that I think we're also in agreement.
But because I might have passed the other one and
I'm not going to pass this one. Give me a
double double lot, double lot of the Pit Boss. Sheldon
Creed just meets everywhere, dude, just meat on the beat
on the Pit Boss girl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah, it's it's got the meats from one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
I have picked him already once this year, I will
I will rescind my meat, so I tell the ladies
when I don't like him, I'm rescinding my number for me,
not tonight. Give me the number forty five. Brad Perez
in the Palla Casina. I like that car a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, it's got the pink, the purple, the gray, like
that kind of drop shadow on the graphic. Mm hmmah,
I dig that. I think it's a good looking car there.
Oh my gosh. So I'll start. Let me pick an
X car here I like, I like in the X Series.

(01:05:08):
I'll take Boo. There's nobody that I like love love here.
I think that you picked the best car in the
X series with the with the the Paula one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Was it Polo Casino a casino?

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
So I'll give a nod to uh the Alligator uh
from the Gong Show. Justin Algeyer in the number seven,
the brand car. They're switching it up, going with the
regional theme and putting grapes on the car this time.
So that's that's my fun one for the Exfinity series.
Then in the Cup series, are those assage boys? Oh
no lt Saya LTL Fredy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Okay, which is a different look because most the Saia
car usually had just has the big style on the
side exactly. Can switch it up a little this week.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Yeah, okay, so that one, and okay, I'm gonna go
twenty four William Byron the Valvelin car. Okay, good looking car.
And then personally, I don't know if this is when
you were referring to or not, but I am totally digging.

(01:06:16):
I don't I don't like how the logo integrates on it,
but I like the base paint scheme a lot for
Demi Hamlin's number eleven AMPM that was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That was the one that I was thinking of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah, that black and purple looks epic. I don't know
that the amp of logo goes with that, but the
car looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, no, the car looks pretty sweet. I think it
kind of goes with it. But yeah, no, it looks
I like the a MP of logo. It's a nice,
nice little thing. Kind of looks like a morning station though,
like a morning Ac gray station.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
It's it's essentially a seven eleven that has a gas station.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Oh yeah, well, so it's a sheets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, except they're all at gas station.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Or seven eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen a standalone AMPM.
I like, they're always at a gas station.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yea, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah. So that was a good one. Oh my gosh.
Now we have to make picks. Did I win with
the Dinger?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
You won by two spots?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
You won by two spots on that one. Six for
the Dinger, eight for Batleman.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah. Still, but they were both good picks. I'm just
I'm just mad at myself that I was like, I'm
not going to pick s FG, I'm gonna pick Alm
Thedinger instead. That was stupid, you know, you so dumb.
And then what was our side? Bet, I can't remember
who it was?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Ryan Ellis is finished.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
That's right. In the X Series race.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
You finished right on your side of the border, twenty fifth. Yes,
so you get the last pick there, So, Ryan Ellis.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
That means you get the entire field to choose from
U for this weekend at so Noma.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, I'm between two people. Oh, I'm between two people,
between two ferns, between two ferns. Never really got that,
by the way, No, not really.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I know it does. I like, I don't get the gimmick.
Like one time it's fine, but like they just keep
doing it, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
No, sometimes absurdist humor is good for me. Sometimes not really.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Right, I'm that one for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
You said it earlier. There was only three multi time
winners or four multi time winners, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
One two timer.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Well I think we're gonna get three three timers. Give
me SVG. Why not back to that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Okay, all right, all right, I like that pick a lot.
And here's why I like that pick because I was like,
last time I said I would double down on SFG,
and I didn't any one. So this time I am
going to follow my instinct and double down on the Dinger.
Give him to me for the second week in a row.
His car looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
He's going to take it to victoryly Yeah, No, he
was my other. It was between him and him and
the SVEG.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Yeah, I think they're both safe bets. With any luck,
we'll get like some sort of epic shootout between those two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Well hopefully not with guns.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Yeah, hopefully not with guns. Hopefully it's California, so I
don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Well, you never know, yeah, it's a cult. There's a
cold front everywhere there. Don't know what is going on
with that place.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Oh man, but but yeah, so, I mean the Dinger
has like the experience here, so he'll feel more comfortable.
But of course, you know spg's got all the momentum
when it comes to road courses, so I'm hoping that
kind of evens things out and we can get like
a pretty good fight back and forth between them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Yeah for sure for the side bet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, Ty Dylan, yeah right, Ty Dylan
and Saint Smith move on. No, no, what do you got?
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
I have I have going back to the X. Yeah,
there's an interesting name on top of the pit box.
Oh is Junior back on? Junior's back on? For Connor's Village?
Oh he is one and one with Connor Village?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yes he is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Does Connor's Village make it two for two? What's your
prediction for Connor's Village?

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
No frame of reference for Connor Zillach? Yeah yeah z
I oh right, yeah, yeah, that's a he spell his name. Okay, good,
let's see what he's done. What with the with the
eighteen year old has done in the past, not a
whole lot because he's only eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
So he's gotta win it. Coda this year, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
He was second last week at the street Course, man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
And at Mexico he was. He won Watkins Glenn last
year in his first Infinity race.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
He did, he did. He's got the chops man first
race at Sonoma in an X car. But I don't
think it's gonna bother him too much. Man, look at
his average over the past one, two, three, four, five,
six races. I'm gonna I'm gonna dig him a little one.

(01:10:55):
I can't. I can't even. He won Circuit of the
Americas to uh, he'll finish. Give me third, They're okay, Yeah,
give me third.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I'm gonna go a little bit, a little bit lower
and say eight. Okay, but we're picking Earnhart numbers man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
He's freaking good, dude, He's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Holy crap, stupidly good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
I mean, he's a freaking rookie and he's won two races.
I know it's X Series, but still he's won two
races in the past one two, three, four, five six races.
He's all he's been top five and all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
And you're talking you know Charlotte Big Fast Track, Nashville Small,
Mexico City Street Course, Pocono Big and Fast, Atlanta Drafting Track,
and then Chicago Street Course like it runs the gamut
in those five races of style of track, Yep, everything
was in there. Top five.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
He's a wonderkin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Jeez man, I'm telling you, who's gonna get that kid?
Is that gonna be a Hendrick deal or what?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
He's track house guy?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Okay, because he's he's drove for Cheez, he's one of
their development drivers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Okay, Well, I can't understand why Daniels is going.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Well, yeah, exactly right, and that's the reason why I bet. Yeah,
and that's a bubber.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
But I will say this about that. I think that
like for an organization like at twenty three eleven or
Front Remoter Sports, I know that they love hanging on
to their drivers and everything, But I mean I think
Daniel Swears would fitting grade at the place like front Row.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Oh yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Yeah maybe not maybe not so much twenty three eleven
because you got Reddick, you got Wallace. I mean they're solid.
Uh you know, I'm neither here nor there in Riley Herps.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yet uh you know what, I'm gonna throw this out here,
just out of the blue. Thirteam for a legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Thirteen for legacy would be a good spot. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but but I could even see him being like the
next Michael McDowell for uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, fun McDonald sorry, yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Next Michael McDonald for front Row where he just like
kind of plops himself there and he's just like solid
but unspectacular for the as.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Yeah, and when you look back, you' sa like, yeah,
this guy was an icon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Exactly, and you're all like, Yam will be there each week.
Yam will be there, man, Yam will be there, fifteenth, eighteenth.
That's what I'm gonna do. Not gonna do anything more,
not gonna do anything less. But you can count on
me to be inside the top twenty. Have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
There we go. That's you're gonna get consistent.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Oh man, Okay. So to recap in the Cup race,
Scotty's picking SVG, I am picking uh aj Allmendinger and
then for a side bet with Connor Zilich in his
first ever Xfinity race at Sonoma, I've got him finishing third.
You've got him finishing eighth. If you want to find
out who wins the race, who wins the bet, who

(01:13:57):
wins the side bet, and whether it was any good
or not. Because it's no and you're probably road coursed
out at this point. I'm sorry about that. Come back
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Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
About now at in the Draft show dot com. The
other one will come later. We got a small picture
of Chase Elliott there. It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
It was big for me the other day. Hey, that's
a good picture of Chase, though, isn't It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
It's nice. It's a fun picture.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
I like it. I can see Chicago off in the
background and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Car looks good. It's good paint scheme on that car.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, if you're still on social media, and why would
you be at in the Draft show or wherever you
get your social media's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Blue blue Sky, Blue Sky's cool blue Sky's and follow
us over there. We hardly have anybody because there's not
really many people on blue Sky.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Well I not and we'll know. What the thing is
is that what happens is people don't want to leave
Twitter because they have such a following.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
I know. That's the thing that because it's a it's
like a wasteland of crap.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
There, dude. I I the only the only thing I
use Twitter for is for podcast stuff. And even then
it's very like it's I have two hundred people over there,
but my main account seventeen hundred people don't. It's still there,
but it's just a vacant page. It's like a o
K Mart.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
And I think that's most people now over there, well,
most people that that have a brain cell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Well, it's a whole it's a whole dead Internet theory
where everything is bots except for like maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
It's just a whole bunch of AI saying racist things
back and forth to each.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Other and you can't tell it anywhere from another red state.
It's kind of weird. H That's it. That's all where Wilson.
I wants to care yourself and someone else's has been
in the draft of Wilson. Was little history lesson for
you before we get you out of here on seven
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way out, free small slurpees at your seven so you

(01:16:00):
got going for that. The signing of the Treaty of
San Clair, Sir ep Day between Charles the Simple and
Rollo of Normandy happened this day on nine to one one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
I would like to have a nickname of Charles the Simple, right,
like the expectations are low, so you're always gonna you're
always gonna overachieve.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
And if you're trying to do a deal with him,
you know he's not gonna complicate things exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
He's gonna keep it, keep it straightforward.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
He's gonna get your brass tacks, damn it. Charles, the
fourth Count of Luxembourg and King of Bohemians, elected King
of the Romans this day in thirteen forty seven, King
of everybody dude Yeah. Fifteen seventy six, while exploring the
North Atlantic Ocean in an attempt to find the Northwest Passage,
Martin Fish sites Greenland, mistaking it for a hypothesized but

(01:16:50):
non existent island of Frisland.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Well, but what maybe it was Frisland. He couldn't named
it that. If he found it, it was Frizzland all
the low.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Exactly sixteen sixteen, Samuel des Champagne returns to Quebec. He
was a French explorer, navigator, cartographer and geographer who established
who found at Quebec City and established New France in
North America. So he got that going for him. Seventeen
thirty five, mathematical calculations suggested that is on this day

(01:17:24):
that dwarf planet Pluto moved inside the orbit of Neptune
for the first time or for the last time before
nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
I think that got a raw deal. It's a planet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Exactly seventeen ninety six, the United States takes possession of
Detroit from Great Britain under the terms of the j Treaty.
I think that was j Bell former shortstop that treaty,
and he's it was playing there after there before he
went to the Pirates. Seventeen ninety eight, the US Marine
Corps re established as they after they had been disbanded

(01:17:58):
after the Revolutionary War. No interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, I didn't know they went away.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yeah. Eighteen oh four Vice President Aaron Burr Mortley Wound's
former Secretary of Treasury Alexander Hamilton. And they made a
play about it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
They did. They made some dollars off.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
That is what they did still to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Eighteen forty seven. Waterloo couldn't helpescape you if I wanted
to the railway station in London opens up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Oh oh, I thought, I thought, like you meant like
the Waterloo, like the Battle of Water.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
No, no, I could have been. I never know. Tiajuana
Mexico's founded this day in eighteen eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Eighteen eighty nine, that late. What the heck?

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I don't know, man, where did they?

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Where did all the sailors go for a fun time
before that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Probably just when the boats stay there. I guess I
didn't have any fun times. Nineteen fourteen, Babe Ruth makes
his Major League baseball debut. Oh not bad. Nineteen nineteen,
the eight hour day in free day become law for
workers in Netherlands. Boy, they're ahead of their time. Yes,
so wait, I hate that, hate that for us. Nineteen

(01:19:09):
twenty two, the Hollywood Bowl opens.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Wow, okay, all right, that makes sense. I think it
sounds that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Yeah, that is. That's a big bowling place. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Oh the Hollywood boy, it's a big concert concert venue. Oh,
very famous concert venue in the Hollywood Hills.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
There you go. Ummm, that's bad. That's bad. That's bad.
To kill a mockingbirds first published this day in nineteen
sixty my heart really really.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I would have expected that would have been written.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Yeah, the first transatlantic satellite television transmission happened this day
in nineteen sixty two. Was I think it was. I
love Lucy, don't even know, doesn't even say here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
I don't know about that, but it was something I
don't know what though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Should know that, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Right exactly even think that. The first space station, Skylab
is destroyed as it re enders ers the atmosphere over
the Indian Ocean to stay in nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yeah, it was like a old used car. They just
kind of drove it into.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
A ditch, yeah exactly, and they're just like, hey, this
is this is fine. We're gonna make a thing called
Sea Lab twenty twenty one. It'd be a great hit one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
It's a great show. I've seen that in forever.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
I love it. Pops up on my feet every now
and again in his breat Spain defeats the Netherlands to
stay in twenty ten to win the twenty ten World
Cup in Johanna, spurgs Oh nice and then hey, a
happy birthday to uh A Bardesian, a Syrian astrologer, scholar
and philosopher born this day in one fifty four a d.

(01:20:48):
Not much as known about him, and it looks like
he's some kind of mr person at least according to
according to the picture that they have for him in
in the Wikipedia.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Oh, very strange.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
So he's a big influence in the both the Roman
Empire and the Parthian Empire for that, so congratulations to him.
So congrats. Hopefully you guys get your surpee and then
you can keep it frozen until Sunday and then have
yourself a nice little surpe for the race on Sonoma
and we will come back next week and talk about

(01:21:19):
it until then, Babe, thanks for listening

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
To in the Draft with Wilson and Waz

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