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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yeah, in your house and no conn at your cont
of your house, house of your house, upon the society
the clouds. You can't write no kind of louds wrestling
in front of the crowds, Para got holding it down.
Anybody can anybody can't get it.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Guys, just standing on this, he.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Is the voice.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
There is no choice. He is some choice in your house.
Making wrestling noise and facts like cruise await.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Action is the perfect distraction.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
But the secret here's when you attraction. Get this work
with the brestling backs. What is up, guys, what is
cracking is to come in and I am in your
house and you.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Guys already know the vibes.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Anytime we slide on through, we're gonna give you that
work when it comes as professional wrestling business and guys,
it is Sunday and man. Usually when we get to
this point of the week, we're recapping a whole lot
of wrestling. But not only were we recapping wrestling today,
because there's a lot of wrestling to recap, whether it
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be a w allintext. They had that big show yesterday,
their biggest show, their longest show, but their biggest show.
Then we had n XT great American Bash, solid show
across the board. We had Saturday Night main event last night,
which we got a lot of thoughts on. We're definitely
gonna discuss that. Then we look ahead to Evolution and
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this is a big wrestling weekend that we had ladies
and gentlemen. We kicked it off with SmackDown, though, and
usually when I'm talking SmackDown, I talk to my man.
He talks all things SmackDown hangs out in his room
as the blue eyed villain, that is the Grandmaster. What
is up?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Man? Yo?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
What is up? SmackDown was definitely an improvement from last week.
Granted anything would have been a better show than last week's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It was a rough show, I know. We talked a
lot about it, mainly because of the crowd. They had
that July fourth show that was taped, so they had
and smack Down and it just made for a really
down show. But it did pick back up. We had
a whole lot of things going down. And this past
Saturday we had the retirement of my next guy over here,
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his favorite wrestler, that's right, he loves him Some Goldberg
And that's our producer of the show. That's the voice
Josh Joseph, what is up man?
Speaker 7 (02:24):
How goes on? Household? How's everybody doing? I am super
stoked that you did it to join us here on
your Sunday afternoon to talk some wrestling, So let's get
into it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes, so a lot of wrestling to talk, and like
I said, SmackDown most definitely an interesting vibe. I'll go
ahead and let our guy grun over here give you
some of his highlights before we really dig deep into
the action. That was Saturday night's main event.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yes, so smack Down we had new tag team champions
crowned and unfortunately, yeah it is the White Six. It
is Dexah Loomis and Joe Gacy who are the right
choice to have win the tititles. But as Josh has said,
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this is they keep saying they're not a tribute a
memorial group where they still are, and I can't argue
with him when he when when they've literally done nothing
to make us believe what they were saying when say, oh,
we're not a tribute group. Uh, actions speak louder than words.
W w W. The other probably the what I would
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probably say argue was the best matchress smack then was
Fatal four Way Alexa Bliss, Rock Samperrez, Kyrie saying and
Soul Ruka who hit a double soul sneer. That was fire.
It was fire. It was fantastic. It just showed we
got evolution in on paper. It should be a great show.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
So the Paul Hami came out, talked to his smack
to La Night and Logan. Paul decided to troll the
w W universe and the world in the biggest way
possible by saying this is our entry the jelly roll,
and that we don't need influencers or celebrities.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I thoroughly enjoyed that. I this guy talking like he's
the freaking vet no now or something like that. He's like,
it was great. I love it. He just came out
and and and sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted
to add on to that because I thought it was
such a good segment. And I was just sitting there
laughing with my wife and I was like, this guy,
like this dude's been wrestling for what he's wrestling for
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a couple of years now. I'll give it to him.
And he's and I'll say this, he's good, He's damn good.
But he's he just proved these e better as a
character as well, because when he stepped out and was
talking about like, we don't like guys like you coming
in here, you singers, you influencers, this and that. I
just thought it was great. He just took it and
flipped it on him, and it just proves that, in
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my opinion, Logan Paul is really evolving as a character.
We got the lou In the chat, he says, happy
sundayyh what a weekend for wrestling. Man, Like I said,
SmackDown was a vibe. Like you said, Gren, we do
have new tag team champions and it is, of course
the Wyatt six. Now I saw this coming a mile away.
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This is not shocking to me. I knew when they
gave him the next match. I already knew that they
was probably gonna lose the titles because they're wanting to
bring the Wyatts in as an element of chaos in
this already stacked division. I don't know how they're gonna
make it work going down to two hours. But the
tag team division is something that has been a topic
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of conversation in many different circles and professionals because how
hot it is. Now you have the Wyats as the
Tag Team Championships voice. What do you think about it?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
I I don't know with them. The thing that drives
me nuts with with the Wyats is when when they
were making their coming back after Bray was out, they
made it a very big point that it's not a tribute,
but yet you've not left. It's like words have no
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meaning only if they piss you off is when we
can use words as meaning. So I'm really annoyed with
this decision because the Street Profits were doing fantastic as
the Tag Team champions they were doing great. The Tag
Team division was doing great without the Wyatt six. I'm
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just like, I don't understand the decision here. I get
I get at some point people do. I get some
people fucking flip out for this shit. I don't. This
is annoying to me. It's really taking up spots and
taking away from others for me. But that's my personal
opinion on it. Again, I can say I understand where
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other people are coming from. I get where you where
your fandom comes from. Totally get it. I'm still a
huge Bogue Dallas fan. I just wish this was not
how we're seeing him.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, I hear you. I hear exactly what you're saying.
For me, it's always going to go back to the
saying if it looks like a duck and walks like
a duck, it's a duck. So with that, you know,
for me, with that being said, I accept what it is.
You know, I accept what it is. I understand the
whole you know we've gone you know, we've gone through
this many times, the Tribute Group, that them still being
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the Tribute Group. Listen for me, they are who they
are showing me. They are in fact still a Tribute group,
and that's gonna be what they continue to be. I
don't see any signs that they're pivoting out of this now.
They've been given the tag team championships in an already
red hot tag team division. When you have teams like
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I mean, the Street Profits, Dy, MotorCity, machine Guns, even
the lower cards Low Scars, which by the way, I
like Low Scars are holding those triple uh, those Triple
A Tag Team championships and those being seen on WWTV.
That's a great thing with the Wyots. It's just something
that I feel like, I I will say, I don't
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fully understand it myself either, and that's just me being
honest because they did not they did. They were just
kind of like, hey, here you are. We're putting you
in here, and this is a thing that doesn't make
sense to me. When you have all those teams and
you bring them in as an element of chaos, and
then what is Uncle Howdie's role? You know, it's it's
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they still film mid Card to me, like, I don't
hate the Wyat six. I accept them for what they
are there. They are a tribute group. So the way
I work is that when I see something and I
see it for what it is until you show me
something else, that's what you are. So there's no point
in me going back and forth about it, cause you're
showing me what you are. I don't understand it, but
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I know that's what's happening now. Once again, smack down,
Oh go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
I was just gonna say, it's just like they're they're
treating us like we're stupid. It's almost like the Yesting
client List all over again, Like, don't treat me like
I'm fucking dumb. It's a tribute group. We get that
you're going to sell more if you don't come out
and have bow going, oh, this is no tribute group.
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I'll tell you what, shut up, shut up it is.
And it's okay that it did, but for you to
piss on me and then be like, no, it's fucking
rain and it's fucking rain, and no, I don't. I
don't want to be treated like I'm a toddler. This
is This is supposed to be a grown up group.
This is supposed to be something that is for the masses,
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and it's not it. They're just I don't know. Maybe
they'll change it around. Maybe they will. And I like
what chat Chief is saying. Hopefully they the six don't
bury the division because it was cooking and hopefully it
can stay cooking.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I completely agree you. So I I can't see them
waiting keeping them to the titles of that for too
long because they need to do something with them. And
the fact is, I think I know exactly how this
is gonna go. I don't think it's gonna be di Y.
I don't think it's gonna be the street profits, even
though I'd be happy with either those. This is she Guns.
(10:48):
I don't think it's gonna be anybody except Andrere Andrey Phoenix,
who have just been announced as an official tag team,
this backgown tag ting division. I imagine they're gonna put
the titles on them at SummerSlam Big moment, and then
you can have DIY feuding with them, arguing that they
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don't deserve the tag titles because they just showed up,
and then you get a bunch of banger matches out
of singles and tag team matches out of them, banger
matches with Androtti, Ray Phoenix or the modest machine guns
pretty deadly Lescarza. So it's like there's nobody the Ray
and Androtti can't work with.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah, I like the I gotta say, I like
the idea of DIY being like the gatekeepers of the
tag division. I enjoy that.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And did you notice Hamantes like for me, I said
it in the chat he totally took Dexter's venom for
being this creepy dude away when he fucking did that
slide and then went and got right in front of
both of theirses to me, you were no, you're nothing.
Then if if another team does your were supposedly very
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scary fucking crawling on your knees and coming up to me,
if somebody else does that, you've done taken it away.
You've taken the mysterious mysteriousness away from what it was.
Dexter Loomis in that moment, and he feels like he
is just forcing shit. It doesn't feel natural with him,
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like over there going, ah, shut up you. We don't
need you to do that. You're Dexter Lumis. We need
you to be Dexter We need you to be creepy
as fuck without making us out.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, that's what he was known for in NXT when
he was doing the like the whole Painter creepy Painter
Stocker gimmick or whatever it was, which honestly I liked
it was something different wrestling at the time. I like
what og Tony is saying here, Wyatt six needed down
in dirty feud. Who can they get down and dirty with?
That's my thing. I mean, like like Voice is saying here,
they've got put in this tag team division, and they
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got thrown in there and a division that is I mean,
I truly can't remember the last time the tag team
division has done has been this deep. I mean, especially
on one brand. You know, usually you can split it
between two brands, where are SmackDown and like you can
have six or seven teams. It's not very often, you
got It's not very often you have six or seven
teams on one brand that can legitimately compete and give
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you a four star match on a weekly basis. You
have that that's there, So what do the Wyatts need
to do? What do they need to be there for?
When you have a legitimate great tag teams. We've already
named them like two or three times, so there's no
reason to do it again. I'll say this Wyatt six
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cost a lot, and they need for it to pay off.
I get that he's right. You're not wrong, chat Chief,
You're not wrong at all. But at the expense of
my tag team division though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Like, that's where we're I think that's where a lot
of our emotion is coming from, because we're we're all
fans of tag team wrestling here, yes, and we're fans
of every single team that they have there. It's like
the women's division. There's so much talent in the tag
team division right now that you could do cool ass storylines,
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but you're you're like, you're stopping that moment. Like when
we had all the tag teams backstage trying to figure
out game planning, how to take out this why group.
That to me was interesting because the enemy of my
enemy is my friend, you know things like that. So
you're playing into all these really cool notions of humanity.
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But then when you throw in fucking Freddy Krueger, Oh wow,
now we're we can't go to sleep, Come and get.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Us shut up, lame.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
You everybody here who is a fucking og of the household.
You know this team was Every time they gave us
a Wyatt six drop, we were fucking like top Irwin
ready to go, trying to dissect it. We were so
excited for this and Bo Dallas everybody here was huge
on him.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But I think he was gonna have a bigger push exactly.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
And I feel that's where this is all coming from.
It's we expected this. We don't want something to die
just so this goes like stop.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I don't know what else to say because I agree
with it, you know, I No, I'm just saying I
agree with you, bro, like you're making good points, and
when you come with that type of logic, I can't
argue with it. I'm concerned about the tag team division
just because of that very reason. Yeah, it's just it's
gonna be tough. Man. We got we got our guy
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the chat. If you're saying twenty twenty five WYAT six
Universal Studios.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
He's not lying that, but they got a contract to
do this. He's like, he's not joking. Oh my god,
he is dropping. Yeah, they're doing a WYAT six type
thing at Universal Studios this year. Tell me this isn't
WCW of the mid nineties where they're at amusement parks
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and ship and you go coup watching ws W.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Tap and then you can go ride the old roll.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Coolsters like come on, dude, like hollowly, I am so
fucking annoyed with this group.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Oh man, it's it's in a listen, it's in a
tough direction. They gave him the Tag Team Champions, which
means that gives me even more idea to think they're
gonna accept him for what they are. And we're gonna
continue to talk about it. But let's pivot real quick
because we got to stay with tag team divisions from SmackDown.
I want to go to the women's tag team division
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right now. Grunt talk to a really big fatal four
way match that happened. I enjoyed this fatal four way.
What came from it is Alexa Bliss winning and finding victory.
And I said it on The Raw Deal. I said
it a little bit last week and I'm doubling down
on it. I enjoy what they're doing with Charlotte Flair
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and Alexa Bliss. It is it's a lane for them.
It keeps them away from the top. It keeps Alexa
coming back on TV because that was one of my
biggest complaints that you came had the biggest poppet, the
roll rumble, then you wasn't on TV. You're carrying around
a dog on doll. But the direction that they're going
with the we're not friends, their allies of convenience is
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what they're calling it. And Charlotte Flair is actively in
front of my very eyes, is what I can say,
actively getting humbled in real time on TV. And I
think that's what needs that we need to see it happening.
She can say all day and interviews, Oh, I want
to you know, I want to show more of Ashley.
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I want to be more humanized. Until we see it,
we're not believing it. Well, I'm seeing it, and I'm
starting to believe it. Grun, where are you at right
now with Charlotte and Alexa.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
I I gotta say, like, I don't like them doing
this and making them a tag team. Like I I
can sort of understand that they need they need a
legitimate team that that on paper means something for these
other women to beat, So that that's great, I still
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don't like it. I like that if the the idea
is just to keep them away from titles and put
over soul Ruka, Czariya, put over the Secret Harvist, put
over uh what other any other sage team that they
might be putting together, they put them over great. I
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am really hoping that that's all it is. I'm hoping
it's not gonna lead to Alexa and Charlotte winning the
tag team titles. I don't want to see them win.
I'm I'm a big lex List fan, but no, like,
right now, they need to boost up the younger talent
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coming up.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know you said something on this show last week.
I think you brought up the idea of so Ruka
and Zaria winning the tag team championships and then that
gives them an opportunity to not just defend them on NXT,
which is their you know, home brand, but it gives
them opportunity offended on Raw and smack Down as well
without officially getting called up. So Ruka had a really
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good performance in that Fatal four Way. I knew she
wasn't gonna win, but I was, like, I guarantee you,
they did not bring her on to this main roster
in this Fatal four Way to not do a soul snatcher,
and not only does she snatch one soul, she snatched
two souls. So I definitely love the idea of seeing
more Zoruka and Azaria on the main roster. But I
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do think they're investing something in this Charlotte and Alexa storyline.
I truly do. And maybe I'm reading too much into it,
maybe I am, Maybe I'm being an optimist, maybe I'm
seeing potential that's not there, But demmit, I just believe that,
in my heart of hearts, they can be that when
they finally get on the same page, which is a
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story that they're telling us they're slowly starting to get
on the same page, is that they can bounce well
off of each other. I think that Alexa, who's somebody
who used to do talk show segments as a tag
team champion with Nicky Cross, and she brought Nicky Cross's
funnier side out. I think that's one of Alexa Bliss's strengths,
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is having people bounce off of her and maybe being
a little bit more quirky. Maybe we see a more quirky,
more humanized version of Charlotte Flair because she has Alexa
Bliss to bounce off of. Do they need to win
the tag team Champions to tell that story? No they don't.
But I think that they're going to be in that conversation,
and I think that we're going to be seeing this
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different version of what we saw with Bianca bell Air
and Naomi. You know, Naomi, somebody that's a mid upper
mid carter to main eventor that is coming and tag
teaming up with a perennial main eventor you're kind of
seeing the same thing with Alexa Bliss, somebody who's upper
mid card and can main event, but now she's tag
team up with a perennial main eventor like Charlotte Flair.
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I think it's good for Charlotte. I think it's good
for Alexa. But I've said enough voice. What are some
of your thoughts on Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
This story is being told better over on NXT with
Izzy and whatever her name is, more believable. I don't
believe this. I am I and I'm not big on
these two that you know hidden feature here at IYH.
I've spoken openly about my staying for both of these
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female stars. I guess I just I honestly sat back
and watched NXT and I was watching all In at
the same time, and the story through Izzy. She's interesting
and she plays she plays the Charlotte character in Tory,
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Charlotte tapping Alexa on the head, Charlotte taking photos with
Alexa wearing her cowboy hat.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
With whatever the fuck was on it.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
I mean, do you need balls in your face all
the time? I don't know. But to me, those are
just photo ops. Those are just moments. Those aren't believable,
Like you have to put some type of belief into it,
and I know some people are buying it, and I
get that that's where you guys are at because you
haven't and maybe you haven't looked at it from my
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point of view as long as I have. I mean,
that's everybody. Obviously, I'm just saying statements now. But with Charlotte,
I was such a huge fan of hers. I understood
it because I was such a huge fan of her
dad's and to see the legacy of her father being
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carried by Charlotte was awesome. And it was awesome to
see her be the first woman to do certain matches,
to do this, to do that, to conquer mountains and everything.
But when she came back, it was like a letdown.
I cannot get that image of her not accepting in
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the middle of the ring, the fans booing her. I
just cannot get that out of my head. I've tried,
and I've tried. It's like I just like with the
Rock back in the day, there was a WrestleMania match
in which he's on the outside and he gets hit.
He doesn't start bleeding, but the camera focuses in on
him and you see him pull out the blade and
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cut himself. That for me, will never leave my mind
when I think of the Rock in a match. He
took that away from me. He took the belief in
which I had of that character away by me seeing
how the sage was made. And that's the way with Charlotte.
I seen her genuine mind, go, what the fuck do
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I do? They didn't do what I've been doing, what
I've been taught, what my bag, what I've can just
reach in the flare bag and pull out every single time.
They didn't do that. And she didn't know how to pivot.
And that's that'll get you cut from any great basketball team.
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You got in a wind to pivot and you cannot
You cannot stumble like that because fans like me, I'm
an asshole, a piece of shit, and I look at
it for what what entertains me, not what entertains the masses,
And for me, I'm not buying this. Uh. Alexa did
amazing though in that match. She really did, like she
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she put on a performance. Uh, but are we getting
let me ask you guys this, Uh, soul is the
soul stature getting overdone? Because the reason I'm asking this
is because I'm going off of what you were talking
about with Riha House and you you were saying Ria's
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were getting oversaturated because you you don't even care if
she wins. It's almost like, oh, Okay, of course she's
gonna win, you know, So like I don't know because
everywhere I see soul like that's what's being talked about
with her, and she's good in every aspect of her
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her in ring performance, and I know that that move
is new and everything, but I like, I don't want
her to be held to one move like everybody's like,
oh it is eh, Like that's not You're missing the
greatness and soul.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Then, in my opinion, I think the finish is part
of the greatness. I mean, I think that that's the
money maker right there. I knew, like I said earlier,
I feel like that when we saw that she was
in that match in that fadal four way, I know
for a fact that she wasn't gonna win that match,
but I knew for a fact I was gonna see
a soul snatcher, that's for sure. You know why, because
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there's still a lot of people that haven't seen it done. Yes,
you could say it's being oversaturated on NXT, and you
might be right, but there's a lot of people that
don't watch NXT. So when she did it on SmackDown,
that was the first time a lot of people seen it.
So I think right now, in my opinion, personally, it's
too early to say that it's oversaturated.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Okay, Well, I maybe I should phrase it. Do you
see it possibly stepping towards that light?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yes, yes, yes, one hundred per.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
I just don't want that to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I understand.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
I like what she does in a rower.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I love what she does, Dude, I love what she does.
Know is the possibility there? Hell yeah it is, because
it's it's gonna be a thing where if she let's
say she comes to the main roster, right, and let's
say that she's not telling any compelling stories, She's not
you know, involved in any factions, she's not competing for titles.
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She's just going out there, and maybe they start using
her to enhance other talent. And then at that point
we're gonna be like, oh, she might not win, but
all we got to see a soul snatcher. We got
to see a soul snatcher. And then guess what the
finisher is more over than her winning or losing the match.
That's when it becomes an issue, when it's like, oh
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we when we have to see the finisher over you
actually getting you know, victories, that's when it becomes an
issue because we don't want to hurt the trajectory of
soul Ruka by making her nothing more than a finisher.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
No, yeah, gotcha. So I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And if that's where you're going, I agree with you.
I'm sorry, go ahead, grin.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
No, it's like it needs to be a you know,
and Antonio Fry or chat chief. He he jokes, saying,
call into the RKSE Soul, which I doesn't sound like
that bad of a name, little nudge Randy Orton, and
she's doing it her own way. Wait, but I think
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that might be Try look at how Randy is. The
Randy is very technical, he's one of the best workers
the industry has ever seen. And Soul Ruka we have
to protect her the way that they protected Randy for years.
I think she could in some way maybe be the
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whim's version of Randy Orton, maybe in a baby face
sort of way. But that finisher, while they're trying to
get it over and may people remember her. They do
need to protect that finisher. And they need to protect
Soul Ruka from being oversaturated, from being just thrown on TV.
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And like Josh said, just make her. Oh she's got
a cool finish.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Well yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Mean, I'm sorry. I just wanted to add to what
you were saying. Both of you guys. Actually, what they
need to do they need to give her a second finisher.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Yeah, I just don't want it to be like uh
later in a couple of years, you know, someone challenges
her and calls her the one move of doom. You know,
I don't want that, sure because I don't. I don't
think it's it's appropriate. But I do love the move.
Don't get me right, I'm not saying I do not
love the movie. I just don't want it to be
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her soul thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Get it. I totally hear you. That's why I want
to add like it. So, like I said, at give
her a second finisher and then we'll read lose comment.
I have voice too, or I'll go ahead and do it.
Give her a second finisher because you give her a
second finisher that's not as poppy as the soul Snatcher,
and she finishes matches like that, then cool. You're in
(30:22):
a good spot right there, Like just give her something
that she can do, uh you know, to everybody, and
let her do that like maybe I don't know, three
four matches in a row, then in a more meaningful match,
that's when it's like, Okay, she's already done her a
(30:43):
finishing move because at this point, this would be her
most used finisher, her ace. You know what I'm saying,
She's done it three different times. How can she possibly
beat Jada Parker for the number one contendership of the
NXT Women's Championship. She's already hit finisher A three times?
Oh my god? What can she do?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Runs off the road, bam, out of nowhere. Soul Snatcher
hooked the leg one two three? Oh she did is
sol Snatcher? We haven't seen her do it in like
two months? Oh my god? It got her then that
at that point you make it meaningful.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Yeah, It's like when Ko had the pop up and
then he switched to the stunner. Yeah, and then it
was like he was winning with both and it was
like I I like that idea thought, Let's hit the chat.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yep, let's hit that chat. We got our man. The
lou He's saying Rouke and Izzy was his least favorite
match from yesterday show. He sees the move appeal, but
not the overall wrestler appeal. Yet, Lou, you were there
for both? Was he there for both those shows? He
was the both of them.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
He was there for Saturday Dance Man event. He was
there for a Great American Bash and he's going to
be there for Evolution tonight.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Do you know do you know where you can find
those pictures that lou sends.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
You can find them in our discord.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Hey yeah, there you go, fans, so check out our discord.
That's where you join us.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Man.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
The yesterday was one of the and we got to
say something because we're gonna bring them up here. Antonio
Fry chat Chief in all sincerity, man, thank you for
being so active during our discord with a w all
that stuff. Man, we highly appreciate you and fans if
(32:36):
his first comment when he came in there is he
has no idea how to use this, and last night
he was he was switching up into rooms. It's very easy.
It may seem complicated, but it's our discord. It's I
y ah, It's so easy. Even House had the same thing.
When we talked about it and we were bringing it up.
He was like, I don't know, but we dove into it.
(32:58):
It's slowly growing, but it's becoming the spot to be
with IYH during pl E's we're all in there, we're
all talking, we're all having a good time. Kevin Calloway's
in there, Grunds in their house, me chat Chief, there's
so many people in there. Thank you guys, and come
join the discord.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yes, yes, We'll make sure to put a link in
the comments here. Also, if you're a podcast listener, check
out the last episode of The Raw Deal with House
and O'Neil. I added the discord into our show notes.
That's what I'm gonna start doing is leave the is
leave the the link there in our show notes for
(33:40):
the podcast version on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify. The
episodes are uploading again and we're going to continue to
upload them. So make sure you guys are listening to
the podcast, make sure you join the discord because every
single time we have a drop, that's where we're dropping
it at before anywhere else. That's our right now. The
(34:00):
discord is is top and high priority right now, so
that's where we're dropping stuff at the first time. So
if you want to see what myself, grun Voice, Kevin Callaway,
Annie O'Neil, anybody else who decides to pop in and
be a part of these shows, that's a part of
this circle, you gotta go to the discord first. Because
(34:21):
that's where we're dropping in first, ladies and gentlemen, So
I just wanted to add on to what voice was saying.
But yes, it was a great, great, great, great day
for the IYH Discord yesterday for sure. Gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Yes, yes, I love it. I love all the interaction.
There's so many more memes you can use at Ease too,
So fans, I highly suggest going there. Yesterday got wild
and chat. Chief is correct. He was cooking with Grease yesterday. Yes,
it was amazing. It was a fun time. Even your
son joined us and he had Yeah. There's also the
(34:58):
n XT minute there. Alan Elijahwan is there. We were
in there talking back with him. He was going live
with NXT. Great discussions in there, so we we really
are pushing the discord. So we hope you all come
by and join it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
App absolutely and we have the chat he's saying, lou
got to actually hear Goldberg's farewell speech. They did Soberg
so dirty, it was he hilarious. We're gonna talk about
that here in a little bit and when we get
into Saturday Night's main event, and then I'm gonna on
the second half of this episode, I'm gonna get my
guys over here, because I already talked about it with
(35:37):
Annie and we talked about it on the Raw Deal
with House and on Neil. I'm gonna get these fellows
over here. Predictions for tonight's show evolution. We'll talk a
little bit about that. Grun is apparently a prick and uh,
fire Bars coming in. He came to our ECW watch along. Hey,
I like Grunn. He's a good guy. He's the blue
(35:59):
Eye villain.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Man.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Man, I'm sorry, fire Bars, but I I don't think
I know who. Thank you for showing up at the
east W watch along, But I don't know you, and
I don't know what you like. I don't I don't
know where where are you getting the idea that I'm
a prick? Like I could be a jerk. I can,
(36:21):
I can definitely across the line sometimes. But but you're
calling me a break out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
It's like what he agrees, man, we're having a good
time here in your house. So all right, we got
to talk about Saturday Night main Event. We got to
bring it up because, like Boyce said, like oh man,
(37:05):
but okay, all right, so we had Saturday Night Main Event.
It went down. We had NXT. It was a great,
great show, and then we had ae W, which was
a fun show. I really enjoyed that show for what
it was. I was a big fan of it. Yeah,
I was a big fan of like the Okata and
Omega series. That was the fifth time they met. The
(37:25):
Texas Deathmatch was fun. Not even gonna lie. Well, I'm
not saying we gotta go into so much AEW because
spoiler for you fans out there, and we go to break.
We have got my son who's gonna be covering all
things ae W and that's his a W recap, so
we don't need to talk about that. But I did
enjoy that show. It was fun. And then we got
to Saturday night main event. And Saturday Night main event
(37:52):
was interesting, gentlemen. I mean, all right, here we go.
Here we go, because it's time for me to keep
it real. We no voice. He you know, he said
what he had to say about the WIAED six. Don't
disagree with him, but you know it's you know, it
was he was a little crabby and now I'm gonna
be a little bit crabby because this Saturday main event
(38:15):
was just to me, felt like an unbridled mess. I mean,
it was an AD. I mean it was just an
AD riddled mess, and I get it. And like even
you had people on social media because I was on X,
I was on Facebook and they were saying, I've never
seen I've never seen so many ads during the pl E.
(38:36):
This wasn't a ple E. It was not a pl E.
This was come on, guys, Come on, guys. This was
not a pl guys. This was an NBC production. It
was an AD driven mess. I mean, my god. For matches,
I think one of my favorite things that happened was
the United States title match was fun and then when
(39:00):
they were highlighting Jade in the crowd talking about evolution,
and then I said to my wife, I promised Fellas.
I said to my wife, you know, it would be
funny if Naomi just came behind her and just attacked
her during like they're like they're talking about her upcoming match,
and then literally on Q on Q it here comes
(39:21):
Naomi Boom gives her the baps. It was great. I
enjoyed it. That was one of my favorite parts of
the night. You got you got the you got our
guy low in here. You know he's saying, uh oh,
he's saying Joseph will hate me for saying this, but
the Goldberg match was clunky, but better than I thought
it was going to be. It was a Goldberg match.
(39:41):
I mean, That's all I could say, and him also
saying this is the one I really wanted to bring up.
Seth getting hurt really affected the show, No, for sure, dude,
like that was that sucked? Once again, I am glad
that you had a blast, Lou. I am not just
I don't want to take away any of your enjoyment
because you enjoyed what you enjoyed. I am glad that
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you're enjoying it. I hope you have a blast tonight
at Evolution. But this Saturday Night main event was just
especially from what I watched with the AW show and
the NXT show, it just it was a two hour
show that dragged. To me. I don't want to get
into too much like complaining or anything, because once again
(40:25):
I sat up there and watched it and there are
parts that I liked. But I'm gonna give it to you, grun.
What do you think, man? What was your overall thoughts
on Saturday night main event? From your perspective, that's my perspective.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Overall, it was fine. I mean, like you said, like
you had to be. You had to see that. Okay,
four matches, so it's like, all right, they're gonna get
plenty of time. But at the same time, NBC most
likely gonna be a lot of ad reads. Deal with it, Okay,
if you really have a problem with it, I have
a suggestion, go on YouTube and watch all the indie
(40:59):
promotion that pay their wrestlers a hot dog in a
soda and you won't get ad reads if you If
that really.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Bothers me, I don't care.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
I have to be because like, come on, guys, at
this point, we should not be arguing, well, we should
do Like I'm sorry, is half the world paying for
ww pay per views? Is half the world buy emerged
every single week from WWE? No, Well then they got
to get the money from somewhere. Sorry, guys, it's a
(41:35):
major corporation. They need to make money.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, they made a lot of money on Access.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
But anyway, He's like, overall, I thought it was an
alright show. I think it could have been better if
Seth rollins his match to La and I did not
go the way it did.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, for sure, And now we're gonna sit up here
and have questions like, was did they did they have
to change the finish to the Goldberg match because Seth
got hurt. I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm not.
I have no sources on that, no sources on that.
This is purely speculation. Did they have to switch the
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Goldberg gun through finish? Because maybe they did and this
is gonna be a big Maybe this is gonna be
a big what if in the future at some point
did they have Seth slated to cash in on Goldberg
last night? Goldberg was over last night. He was in Atlanta, Georgia.
He was don't matter what we think about Goldberg. I
(42:42):
don't like the man, I don't enjoy his wrestling, but
I go with what I watch. He got big pops
for his final match, and it would get Seth real
quick heat if he cashed in on that guy when
he was doing his retirement speech. That would be money
to me. That just would But yeah, this show overall,
(43:05):
you had a C minus show, and now I gotta
turn a C minus show and turn it into at
least a dnail because the Seth rollins injury is going
to send shock waves through WWE storylines, So you not
only did you have an okay show, you lost one
(43:26):
of your long term storylines to this show. I just
the more I talk about Saturday Main Event, the more
I was not a fan of last night's show. Once
again not saying it was just complete mess front to
back or it was a terrible production. It was a
it was a general WWE production, But you know, I
just didn't like a lot of what happened in the
(43:47):
night voice some of your thoughts on Saturday Night Main Event.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
A kicked your dick in tonight or that night? They
truly did. I watched both. I mean I stopped watching
a w because I was like, how much more fucking wrestling? Right?
But you know, if I was Tony, this is where
I would plant my flag, and this is what I
(44:14):
would be talking about, not fictitious things with will Ocean
Spray coming out and being the Hey bro, I the best.
There's nobody better. I've seen your moves on every fucking
indie show. You know what, Isaiah Moore, I could implant
him in your position and I might make a little
money off of that. I don't believe Ocean Spray, but
(44:37):
we're on Saturday Night main event. So Goldberg, I don't
know if anybody know this, but during that jackknife he
about crippled goother looked like, yeah, he almost dropped him
on his What would we be saying if gnther got
(44:57):
injured in this? Maybe Saturday Night main events should stay
where they were in the past and where they kind
of died off. That's why they didn't do them anymore,
because people start.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Fun at first. Voice when they brought them back, it
felt so fun at first.
Speaker 7 (45:16):
It always feels fun at first, and then you look
back at it and there's so many things wrong with it.
It's like house. Can we bring back in Living Color today?
Speaker 6 (45:27):
No?
Speaker 7 (45:28):
No, exactly, can we bring back mad TV today?
Speaker 3 (45:33):
No?
Speaker 7 (45:33):
No no, So times have changed, we move on. Yes.
Would it have been great for it to just been
a just amazing tribute shows and things like that, most definitely.
But they injected storylines that mattered into this. You put
people in that everybody pays to see, and now their
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knee is in question and that guy was holding something
very important to storylines. Oh my god, this is getting
too much. You should have backed off. You should have
let aw have their weekend.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Let them have their weekend.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
You're not.
Speaker 7 (46:20):
You don't have to go in and pick on the
special kid in class just because you don't like them.
Oh yeah, so he gets to hug the girls and
touch the boobs. He's special, he's not doing anything. Work
your magic to him. Then real can be that guy
without all the drooling. But when you're just fucking trying
(46:41):
to pick on the person that's the weakest at their moment,
you look like the asshole. And now you're putting the
women's in jeopardy because now you've put everything on their
shoulders that this this pl has to work. It just
can't be. Okay, it's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
It's gotta be your show of the weekend. It has
to be.
Speaker 7 (47:07):
It's gotta blow everything away.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Because and because interrupt J I'm in rup because you
had this lackluster Saturday night main event, and now the
wrestling gods caught you slacking and took and possibly took
seth Rollins's a c L M C L whatever it is.
The wrestling gods caught you slacking because you had this
(47:30):
lackluster show. You lost one of your top guys in
the weekend. I just I don't know, man og Tony
saying The problem is WW is trying to do too much.
It's rushed. We've talked about this for like the last
two weeks. We don't need these Saturday night main events.
If you wanted to do NXT Great American Bash, cool,
that's fine. I'm okay with that. That was a great show.
(47:53):
I enjoyed it. It didn't feel like an FU show
to you know, to ae W, because honestly, I know,
I know that NXT went head to head with ae W.
I know that they went in the same time slot,
but the quality of what we saw with that Saturday
night main event, that felt like the rushed, sloppy FU show.
(48:16):
You know what I'm saying. We're gonna come in and
we're gonna take the audi attention because we're the WWE,
and then we're going to also at the same time
promoted and making an entire weekend, and we're gonna bring
back Evolution. Evolution is selling like crap, and you guys
are it looks like an amazing show. It looks like
(48:36):
I'm so excited for Evolution, Bell to Bell. I'm so
excited for Evolution, Bell to Bell. I don't care. I'm
super excited. But seeing that these women are are it's
just being like trivialized. It feels like and and people
aren't like, don't feel like this is like the women's
WrestleMania or something like that. The way they're thinking it
(49:00):
is it feels like a women's Summer Slam or Russell
Maney or something because the match quality, all of the
matches that they're having. It's a great card. But you
got caught up in the crossfires of what you're trying
to do because A I'm sorry, listen if you guys
listen to this. I'm somebody who takes accountability, all right,
if you guys listen to this show. For the last
(49:21):
few months, I have not had nice things to say
about AEW. I have not had nice things to say
about AW. I sat down and watched that show. My
son was like, Dad, I really want to watch the show.
It looks like a good show. And you know what
I enjoyed. Was it long? Yes, but man, it was
a great, great show with a lot of great matches.
(49:43):
Evolution has to, without a shadow of a doubt, be
the show of the weekend or this is gonna feel
like a failure weekend for WW in my eyes, just
me just me, that's just me.
Speaker 7 (49:57):
No, you're you're You're in the ballpark. I'm watching the
game map. Because even even the two hours that I
watched two and a half hours, I watched it all in.
I was drawn to it more than I was drawn
to NXT. And I had.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
One of my top one of my studio TV.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
Yeah, I had my I had all In on my phone,
had NXT on my big television in the living room,
and I was watching more of my phone. Uh yeah,
we're we in the discord talking, yes, But the the
matches themselves, Samoa Joe Jesus, Oh my god. For him
(50:50):
to go as hard as he went and then to
sell as hard as he sold, Yeah, that was fantas pastic.
And I, you know what, we had our discussion with
the death Riders and things like that. But they're still
captivating though. That's the thing. They're still captivating. They still
(51:14):
because you're setting her wondering when's it going to end?
But they put on a great match, so you kind
of gotta be like, well, that was a hell of
a match, and well then they progress their story. I
think this is the rush, like what OG's saying, being
rushed in this manner even a chat Chief has talked
(51:35):
about it. It puts it puts way too much on
on whatever whoever's in that show. It puts way too
much because now, look, we're trying to give Jade a
hell of a match. Now she knows she has to
(51:56):
have a hell of a match pressure. She's not bil
for that yet, She's got she's still got to be
in the repair shop for someone to cultivate. And I
still think if the Taker would put her under his wing,
he could mold her into something and then you have
Britney coming up with that like that would be epic.
(52:17):
I would fucking I would mark out for that tag team,
the female Twin Towers. Oh my god, Yeah, I just
really evolution. I hope they all get that moment because
it's like an ECW show. You know, you don't know
(52:38):
if you're gonna have another one, but you know the
one that you're about to have, it's got to make
a mark. And those guys were all able to do it.
Everybody involved in those shows. I think the talent that
we have when the women's division, they're gonna find whatever
whatever it is and they're gonna pull together and this
(52:59):
is gonna be a knockout show, and it's going to
force WWE. Because we're the fans. We can change things.
We can force them to start adding if they're doing
two night events, one night men, one night women. It
may not be the fanciest, it may not be the
sexiest way to solve this issue, but it's the most
(53:20):
equal way to do it.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, Can we bring up lose comment his last comment
because I want to say something about that. I want
to give my thoughts on that. He says. Are we
in a moment of aew becoming the better show? Now? Hell? Though,
let me let me be delicate with this. I hear you.
I hear you, grin, I hear you grin. Let me
be delicate with this, though, because it's easy to look
(53:47):
at a situation, especially with the fact that you know
recency bias. Aew all in Texas was amazing until ae
W shows me that they can tell you the stories
and keep you weekly weekly because that's the heart and
soul of your product. I know you guys blow it
(54:08):
up for double or nothing all in Dynasty all the
other shows that you have. You gotta keep me weekly, man,
until you can make those dynamites. Must watch those Collisions
must catch because I'm telling you, not a lot of people,
especially wrestling fans, not a lot of people are gonna
watch Collision on a Saturday. You know why, because a
(54:30):
lot of them might be at wrestling shows. You know
what I'm saying, Like it is, it's crazy. But until
you show me on a week to week basis that
you can consistently hold the stories that WWE has proven
that they can hold and keep you there. Now, is
WW in a weird spot right now?
Speaker 6 (54:50):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah it is because that side of night main event
left a bad taste in my mouth. And I gotta
tell you, after watching that AEW show, it's never tasted sweeter.
It hasn't tasted as sweet as it has in a
long time. But I also know when you take the
beer goggs off, the lady don't look so beautiful, does she?
Let's see what it looks like on Wednesday night Dynamite
when they have to follow up. But I thought that
(55:13):
was an interesting comment. But no, I don't think that
we're in that moment. I think that they have an
opportunity to maybe snatch the moment. But no, right now,
absolutely not.
Speaker 7 (55:25):
No, Yeah, that's exactly where I'm at you have to
do it consistently, mind you, guys, I am the only
creator at IYH who did a weekly a W show.
He sure did, I and I did it for all
the hours Collision. Did they broke my heart? Guys? They
broke my heart. We're mending fences though. All in I
(55:48):
will say minus will ocean spray bruv We would That
would have been a fantastic show.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. We got oh, we got
our guy. Puerto Rico Danie Garcia is in the chat.
He is there. He's saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, what did
I do well?
Speaker 7 (56:07):
The comments started flying in.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Oh yeah, they sure did. He says, AEW needs to
place the right focus on the storylines weekend in a
week out app sobolutely, Daniel Garcia, I agree with you. Then,
my man Antonio Fry the chat chief, He says, I'm
a prick too, Conna is a prick to a EW
fight Foreverloo Listen, man, I guess I'll be a prick
because because they gotta show me. Man, But did I
(56:34):
enjoy that show yesterday? Hell yeah I did. That was
a great show. I enjoyed it, and I'll say this
if it makes you feel If it makes you feel
any better, chat chief, I do kind of want to
watch Dynamite now like they do kind of make me
want to. We'll see, we'll see. But listen, you can't
say that we don't support a Chano loved to aew
(56:55):
because my son has got a whole three minutes worth
of recap on aw. We're about to do that here
in about a minute here, but I want to get
the fellas here their final thoughts here on Saturday Night
main Event and what you guys thought about the matches
and things like that. We'll start with grun here man,
(57:15):
what was your match of the night for Saturday Night
main Event or maybe just moment of the night.
Speaker 6 (57:21):
Uh, honestly, there was no match of the night, that
is my opinion. There was a moment of the night.
And think it's going to help bolster day of ticket
sales for Evolution, and that is the Jake car Gill
Naomi segment.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yes it's so good, got into a fought or.
Speaker 6 (57:39):
Got into a fight, and then a special guest referee
was thinged Bianca bell Air, causing more drama, yes, making
it way more interesting that even if you can't get tickets,
you'll tune in to watch it on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah. I like that, And you know what I'm gonna
We're gonna continue to talk about Goldberg and his segment
getting cut short and everything. We have to talk about that.
But when we saw the Bianca Bellaer came out in
that great segment, it was excellent segment in my opinion,
with Naomi and Jay Cargo, it really sparked something in
the discord voice. Are we gonna see Biancle bell Air
(58:17):
turn heel tonight at Evolution?
Speaker 7 (58:20):
That's a possibility. But can we go back to something
grun what'd you say about there was no Match of the.
Speaker 6 (58:25):
Night between on Saturday Night's main event. I did not
feel like any of the pas.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
That's just factually inaccurate on so many different levels.
Speaker 7 (58:35):
I don't understand why you wrote it, Like.
Speaker 6 (58:36):
All right, all right, so you're making me pick. If
I'm gonna pick one, I will pick Randy Orton versus
Drew McIntire. I thought, okay, thought I thought it was good,
and it set up a big celebrity match at SummerSlam.
Logan Paul's gonna We're gonna see him get beat up
by jelly roll. That'll be fun and we're gonna get
see Drew McIntyre and Randy Orton do get out on
(58:59):
another page review.
Speaker 7 (59:01):
Okay, good because I I think you you enjoyed that match.
That was it. That would have been matter than n
Now back to Bianca, I think that's where we're going.
I think we're getting that heel turn. I think everything's
gonna boil into the Voices world in what I've been
calling for since Jade, Naomi, and Bianca all intertwined.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
This.
Speaker 7 (59:26):
Yes, and I think we're finally there. I'm excited for this.
I think this is going to be awesome. I would
say that that was definitely a moment of the night,
just that whole segment between all three of them, from
start to finish. I love the setup, I love the
way chaos ensued, and then I love the fact that
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they threw gas on the fire at the end of it.
But my match of the night was at US title match.
I enjoyed it. I loved it. I thought it it
did some great things that showed Jacob is not a
right a tree and that he carries a big axe
anytime he's around him. So I'm I'm looking for that,
and I loved Big Jim. I thought that was one
(01:00:10):
of his best matches that he's had as a singles competitor,
and I can't wait to see more from him.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Actually, Okay, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, I think we
could see more from Big GYM. I think he's starting
to enter a very interesting lane for himself where he
could eventually at some point become the US champion. But
we'll see where that goes for sure. But all right,
we'll talk about the last thing here before we'll go
to break and then we'll go to the ae W
(01:00:39):
All in Texas recap with the Lajahwan. Let's talk about
the end of the match there with the main event
for the World Heavyweight Championship. Gunther chokes out Goldberg. I
want to get your guys' thoughts. I'll start with voice
over here. First off, I want to ask your opinion
do you think the finish might have been altered? And
(01:01:01):
then I want to get your thoughts on Coburg's speech
getting cut short by the network.
Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
Yeah, I do think it had to be a little altered.
Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
It.
Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
They're they're throughout the seth match up until the injury.
Paul was doing his normal things of hugging the case
and things like that. To me, that when when Paul
is like in this in the shot, the main camshot,
and he's over there and he's like leaning and holding
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onto that and just watching, looking like a coach, like
planning the next play, I think they were building up
for that. I think they were going to waste Now,
let me say this. I think it's a waste of
a cash in. I think this is would have been
nonsense if you would have handed that title over to
him and all these people saying Goldberg will smiling when
(01:01:59):
he was taking those chops, well, guess what, here's a
little secret. Goother was taking ninety percent off of that
when he was chopping that old chest. Because let's just
be realistic, one of Goonther's big meaty palls would disintegrate
the bones of old skeletor over there. Fucking jeez, I
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am sure. The internet is so insane. They are so
fucking insane they will try to prove any damn thing. Anyways,
I think it was altered. I also think that when
the man can barely walk around and those knees are
giving out, maybe attempting a jackhammer to a man of
(01:02:43):
goother's size is not the best move. Even though it's
one of your two moves, it's probably not the best one.
And that you know that shoulder's gone right, that there's
no nothing left in it to think that that spear
actually took down. Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Okay, all right, let me let me ask you this voice.
Let me ask you this. I want two different grades
from you for Saturday night main event. The first grade
that I want from you is the fact that it
was a lackluster show. We had two decent matches with
(01:03:24):
Randy and Drew and Jimmy in solo for the United
States Championship. We had a great segment with Jade Cargle
and and Naomi that was great. Now we taken to
the consideration that you had Goldberg in the main event.
It was leading nowhere. You had to contractually give him
(01:03:47):
not only a retirement match, but a championship retirement match.
Contractually had to give it to him. And then in
the other match, you lost your You lost one of
your aces for an undisclosed amount of time that was
heavily involved in a main event storyline. It was the
main event prop that is money in the bank, I
(01:04:08):
mean you lost him, man, You might have lost him
for anywhere between ten to twelve months. Your SummerSlam main
event is likely gutted, and you're gonna have to pivot.
I want your grade for what Saturday Night main event
was based on that, and then I want a grade
based on if God forbid, if Goldberg would have screwed
(01:04:30):
up that jackhammer and broke Gunther's neck and put him
out on the shelf for an undisclosed amount of time.
So two different grades I'm asking from you.
Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
Okay, So the overall show as it was with everything
that happened, because you can't you can't really predict if
somebody's going to get injured and seth it was a
normal move that he's always done.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Done it a million times, but you did lose him
long term though you did.
Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
So I'm going to grade on a curve and I'm
going to give you a C. Okay, getting as C there,
But if if that would have happened.
Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
You're you've failed, and we need to talk about your
your ae.
Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
W derangement syndrome and forcing things in because they're they're
you know, get over it. You would have made more
money if you would have had that somewhere else, or
even if you would have put it on a day,
who cares if they AW is doing what AAW is
(01:05:35):
doing and their storylines are for them and their fans.
They legit. You guys retired somebody and they a guy
who was just a few years younger or older, something
like that that you put a title on, Like, what
are we doing? Are we trying to play like anything
(01:05:57):
you can do? I can do better? What is going on?
What I'm not understanding wrestling as of this month? July
is a fucking weird ass month parallel universe. I don't
understand WWE.
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
This month, WWE is doing some things that WCW was
guilty of back in the day. And I'm not saying
I still let me some WW but I'm like, it
was a weekend that if you would have just done
the NXT show, I listen, I totally get the NXT
(01:06:34):
show because the NXT Show, you're getting your young guys reps.
You're giving them a big opportunity to, you know, to
work in Atlanta, Georgia, and it's a great opportunity to
do a great American bash. I get that, and you're
gonna have less chance of injury on your younger talent
and they're gonna have a great show head to head
up with AEW. Saturday Night main event was just nonsense.
(01:06:57):
I mean it was just nonsense. And the reason why
is because, like, like you could have told all the
stories that all the stuff that you was wanting to
do on Saturday Main Event. All you had to do
was highlight it on your social media. You could have
told the stories. You could have he didn't need the
matches instead, you know, we ended up you know, we
(01:07:17):
don't once again, don't know the amount of time that
we're losing seth rollins could have possibly and this is
a did I not say on this very show that
I'm scared that I am scared that that that Goldberg
would hurt Gunther and then look what happened. He damn
near almost hurt guntherro You know what I'm saying, So
(01:07:37):
like it. It's just odd to me, most definitely. But
I once again, it was just one of those odd
shows that I just don't know. I just don't know
where you're going, man, I just don't know where you're going.
Once again, Evolution is gonna be awesome tonight. I'm super
excited for evolution. That's gonna be good. But yeah, man,
(01:08:01):
that was my thoughts on Saturday Night main event. You
gave your dods and we'll definitely have some more to
talk about. Grun's gonna be back here in a minute.
While that's going down, We're going to take a break,
pay a few bills, and then when we come back,
we're going to have the aw All in Texas recap
with Elajuan. Then we'll be back. We'll be giving you
(01:08:22):
the fellas over here, my man, voice of my man
Grun giving you their predictions for tonight's evolution.
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This is a recap of AW all and twenty twenty five.
So it started off with the Sons of Texas defeating
Shane Taylor Promotions, and there was Big Boom AJ and
the Conglomeration defeating of the Calas Family. FTR beat Outrunners,
and then the Officer retain their titles against the deat Writers.
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Plus gave Kid and a pretty hard hitting match Mode
Joe was going crazy in that match. MJF won the
Casino Gauntlet and punched his ticket to a future aw
Championship match. Dustin Rose finally won the TNT Championship and honestly,
what I thought was one of the best matches.
Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
Of the night.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I think it definitely it definitely like I didn't expect
Dustin Roades to win, but having him win was. It
feels like the right the right choice. Swerve and Osprey
become the new EVPs by beating Young to the Young
Bucks and arguably the match of the night. It was hard, hitting,
(01:10:38):
back and forth. It was everything that you'd wanted to match.
Adina won the Casino Gauntlet in another great match that
I think that, in my opinion, was a match of
the night. I was fully locked in. The spots were great.
Everything in that match was great. The contestants were great.
I learned new faces, got more familiar, which is everybody
(01:11:00):
in that match, and how they wrestled, and it was
just great and I think the right winner or the
right person won it too. Then the Hurt Syndicate retained
to get Jet Speed in the patriarchy. Then Nick Wayne
turned on Christian Cage and then Cope was over here
doing the whole py up thing and then saved Christian Cage.
Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
But that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
To watch and see how they reunite, and a shocking
result in my opinion. Tony Storm retained and then because
after she hit those three storms zeros, I was like, okay,
Mercedes kicked out when she's winning, but then she she
kissed her then did the outlish Storm zero. That was insane.
That match was crazy too. Okada became the first you
(01:11:46):
know yet unified champion against Kenny Omega. In a hard
hitting match, back and forth, and I think that's that's
like the common consistent consistency in this night is that
these are just great matches. Is a new Champ beat
John Marsley in a blood field match, then you had
(01:12:06):
Brian Danielson coming out there, Darby Allen Swerve, the interference
of everybody else. This this matter is great and I
think brought great emotion having Hangman win, and I think
it was just time to take the title off John Bosley.
Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Hey, guys, welcome back to in your house and uh,
you guys just got the AE w all In Texas
recap from a man Elijah Won. He watched the show
from front to back and he really enjoyed it himself.
He also enjoyed NXT. It was a great day that
we had had. But there was voice. I know you
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watched A w all in, you heard Elijah Wan's analysis
his recap. What did you think about AE w from you,
especially since we've been on the same page with aw
that we've just overall not enjoyed it. Where were you at?
Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
Yeah? I thought they did a great job. Their storytelling
was was on point, and that for me is shocking
because they they They have famously said that they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
They don't care about stories, they don't care about.
Speaker 7 (01:13:26):
They don't care about that. But last night you did.
You made a true cowboy Texan, a champion that hasn't
been something since nineteen ninety six. Wow. So you know, Uh,
that's a little jab at the Dallas Cowboy fans out there.
Speaker 10 (01:13:44):
Oh.
Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
I think aw shocked the world. But I have to
play Devil's advocate with the for scene of this weekend
for WWE, in a sense, did we pull the South
Park Michelle Obama? The bar is set too low? Do
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we need James Cameron uh to come go down there
and pull it up? Because I mean that's a question
to be asked. Not trying to take away from anybody.
Because even even though I bust his balls and call
emotion spray uh that that match was great?
Speaker 10 (01:14:27):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (01:14:28):
The young Bucks to what the Young Bucks do? You
can hate the young Bucks, you can want to spit
on them, you can want to yell at him, call
them little weirdos, But watch a match of theirs of
that magnitude you And let me tell you something. If
you do not have eyes on Swerve Strickland, you're blind
(01:14:52):
that dude though, Yeah, I mean I y h has
we've we've we've talked about Serve. There was many times
I was trying to get in to even talk to him,
to have a discussion when I was doing the watch along.
(01:15:13):
But he proved so much last night. He proved not
only is he a singles competitor to watch, that he
can take another guy who is also another singles competitors
to watch and they can form a tag team and
take out one of the most phenomenal tag teams to
ever touch a mat. Again. Say what you want about
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the Young Bucks, but there is absolutely positively not a
single wasted movement that comes out of that corner. Everything
is timed, everything is perfect, Everything is crisp, from a
lock to a flying whatever the hell came up with
(01:15:56):
that week. The Young Buck are annoying as ship, yes,
but it's one of those talents that they back it up.
But Swerve definitely stole the night for me. His his
way to tell a story while between those ropes is
(01:16:21):
something to be praised. I think he he has he
gets it, he eats, he breathes, he sleeps wrestling the
man gets it. And the fact that they made Dustin
Rhodes a champion.
Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
It's that was good, Like I felt that emotion.
Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
It was great. You you capitalized on the storytelling. Yep,
the thing that you swore you weren't doing and you
capitalized on it. I would give them a B plus voice.
Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Okay, let me ask you one more question and we're
gonna move on to evolution because I know, I know
you watched the show and you you know you had
your eyes wider. I can tell just by listening to
you talk about it. You watch the show with your
eyes wide open.
Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
You're an e CW guy, bro, I am through, win through.
What did you think about the Texas Death Match? I
I got to give me your honest thoughts here because
I have to know.
Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
Yeah, okay, honestly, when it comes to those matches, I
think that there there can be a beautiful story told
in a Texas death match, and I think I think
one of the best things about a death match, especially
a Texas one, throughout the history of wrestling, is it
(01:17:50):
it's a there's a death of something, not a legit death.
Storyline wise, there's a death. He goes by Moxley, now right, Yeah,
so Max, I think he's overdone it with these matches.
(01:18:15):
If I'm going to be honest, I think I think
it's a crutch of his to keep himself relevant in
the fans eyes. I don't think he's that confident the
between the ropes types of things and technical wise, yes,
(01:18:36):
And I honestly, I don't think that he's that bad.
I don't think he's the best, but I don't think
that he's the worst either. I I don't know. I
from just having gone through addiction, ship and things like that,
I think I think there's a wound in Moxley that
(01:19:00):
holds himself back. And I again, I think these matches
are a crutch for him. I'm glad that Adam Adam
Page right, Yes, hangman Page, that's his name. Uh, I'm
glad he won. I think it was time for them
to take the title off mox and move forward from
(01:19:23):
especially from what I was reading, what I was hearing
from the fans and out there on Nick Taaro Darrow's show.
But again, they did it. They did a good job,
they told their story. But I would I would love
to see mox outside of death matches and relying on
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those types of things.
Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Yeah, yeah, you said, B plus is that what you said.
Speaker 7 (01:19:49):
Yeah, I'm giving him a B plus on this one.
Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
I'm with you. I'm going I'm going B plus. I'm
going B plus. I thought I thought it was a
very very solid show, very solid show. And yeah, it
was recapped with my man E Lajawan. He's somebody who
we're gonna be relying on when it comes to NXT,
when it comes to AW and I think that he
is excited for that. So yeah, check out what he's
(01:20:13):
gonna be doing here on the channel. You guys heard
his NXT minute from the Raw deal with House and
on Neil. Now, we just had his AE w All
in Texas recap, and yeah, look for more of that
from him as the summer progresses. We'll see what happens
once he gets back to school he's playing football and stuff,
you know, doing kids stuff. We'll see how consistent he
(01:20:34):
can be. But right now, at least through the summer,
we'll be seeing those. But we have got to talk
evolution because tonight is WWE evolution. This is the second
time they've done it. I believe the first time might
have been in twenty seventeen. I could definitely look that
up here in a second because I gotta give my
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man Grundminster's overall thoughts on tonight's show where you at?
I think we're all in agreement that there's a big,
big microscope on tonight show just because of the way
the weekend is went for the w w WEE and
I think it has created a pressure. I'm excited for
the show. I think it's gonna be great. Bell to bell,
but grun, what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Man?
Speaker 7 (01:21:15):
Overall?
Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
As I'm looking at the car, do you have a
no hor no holds barred match between Jay car Gill
and Naomi with Deianga Butler special guest referee. That's gonna
be fun to watch. You have Eo Sky versus rear
Ripley that should be a good match. You have Becky
Lynch Bailey and Lyra Valkyria take going on in women's
zeren Kin Championship match that should be very good. Good.
Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (01:21:38):
Tiffany Shotton defense against Trish should be nice to see
Tiffany get a Getta win against Trish. Sure uh. And
then the only other than only two matches left, the
JC Change versus Jordan Grace the NFC Women's Championship. That
should be great, especially for those of us like myself,
Like I've seen seen a he's amount of Jordan Grace,
(01:22:01):
I haven't seen too much of j C. Jane. I
know she was a tag team champion with Gigi Jolan
when she was still with the w w E, and
they would not put j C. Jane in this position
if they did not think that she would bolster the
value of NXT and the NXC Women's Division. So I'm
(01:22:21):
definitely curious to see how this match looks, especially since
she's gonna have Fallon Henley and Jasmine Nicks in her corner.
Probably the match everyone's gonna be talking. Actually, I did
forget the women's tag team Fatal four way, that's that's
I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna go on a wild guest
seri and see that's gonna be matched to the night
that fatal I'm gonna say that's gonna be match of
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the night. And then the Women's Battle Royal. This is
probably where we're gonna see a surprise, which are maybe
maybe Sorea, the former page a w w E. She
is not under contract, there is no other there is
no thing that is going that can stop her from
(01:23:04):
showing up tonight at Evolution unless she did not want
to return. Now A J A Lee, same thing thing.
There is nothing that stops her unless she doesn't want
to show up. Yeah, so we already.
Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Know that Kelly Kelly.
Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
I did see that she was invited to the show
to sit ring sock. She declined. She said it's not
the right time.
Speaker 7 (01:23:30):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
Now, she didn't. She didn't make it sound like, uh,
she's she's not interested in returning. She made it sound
like she wants her return to mean something, okay, and
which I can respect.
Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Okay, I mean Kelly Kelly I was.
Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
I was never a huge fan of Kelly Kelly. I
really wasn't. I thought she was thrust it into a
spot that you know, at the time, she wasn't ready for.
But you know what I do, you know, appreciate the
time that she was with the company. I know that
she had. You know, does anybody let me ask you
that maybe you won't maybe you won't run, but maybe
voice will. Do you remember Caitlin?
Speaker 6 (01:24:10):
I do remember Caitlyn? You remember Caitlin? Are you kidding? Caitlyn?
She was?
Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
She is.
Speaker 6 (01:24:15):
She was in w at the same time as h
Lee Page yuh, like Caitlin, I thought was completely underutilized.
And I liked Caitlin.
Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
I liked Caitlin.
Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
I thought you likely too.
Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
I liked Caitlin.
Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
I like Kaitlin. I thought she was good. I thought
she could be the future because like she was at
the time, you had divas, and Caitlin, while yeah, still
kind of diva, asked still was it was fighting the
system to have her own persona or have her own character.
Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
And she was kind of a powerhouse too, if you
remember she was, and.
Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
She was pretty good as a powerhouse, even if I
bet w W told you to hold back and bring
because like her, her spirit wasn't terrible, her spieler was pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
It really felt like there was a lot. There was
a lot left on the table for Caitlin. I don't
know what happened there. Maybe she just didn't want anymore.
Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
I think I think she's doing indies or she or
just that I don't I yeah, I don't remember what
she's up to, but uh yeah, I mean you know
what that's unfortunately that's kind of what happens.
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Yeah, she was, she was super talented, So like I
really just that I just brought her up because He
just came to my mind when we were talking about
Kelly Kelly because they were from the same era. But
I do have high hopes for tonight's show and Uh,
I'll bring this up too, because myself and Annie over
on the Raw Deal over on Wednesdays, we did we
did predictions for UH for Tonight's Evolution, and you know,
(01:25:53):
I wanted to bring it up with you guys because
like we all three of us agree, it's gonna it's now.
It's gotta be such a huge show. It's got it.
There's a lot of that, there's a lot of pressure
on this show. I think Bell to Bell is gonna
be really good. So I've already given my thoughts. If
you guys want to hear my predictions on on tonight's
(01:26:15):
show evolution, go back and check out the Raw Deal
with House and o' neil. You can check it out
on our YouTube. You can check it out on our Twitch,
and now it's available on on Spotify and on Apple Podcast.
But I got to ask my guys here. We'll start
with my man the Voice, and we'll go down because
I'm on ww's website, I got their match card up.
(01:26:37):
We'll start at the very bottom here, and that's the
NXTO Women's Championship match. Jacj and the champion goes up
against Jordan Grace. Voice. Who do you think, man?
Speaker 7 (01:26:48):
I honestly think they're gonna leave it on JC Jane. Okay, okay,
I with me. Jordan Grace is the type of talent
that you don't for her to go to the main roster.
You don't need her to hold any titles in n XT.
Would it be cool to see her run with the title, Sure,
but it's not needed. Everybody knows of Jordan Grace. You
(01:27:11):
already know that she's going to the main roster. It's
just whenever they decide to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you on that. I do
believe she's a talent that doesn't need the title. I
was feeling in my mind, I feeling like ja C
Jane could be transitional. But I want to get Grundmeister's thoughts.
Where are you at with this championship match NXT titles
on the line? J C Jane, Jordan Grace.
Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
Uh, I'm looking at it and like, yeah, Fallon Henley
and Jasmine Nicks, They're like, if you know anything about
fatal influence they're going to play a part in this match,
so and and yet the winner this match will take
on the TNA Knockouts champion and uh Masha's Slamovich. I
(01:28:03):
believe and uh the t n A. I think they
wanted to be Jordan Grace at the same time time,
like I, Jordan Apps. It is absolutely realistic. Jordan loses
here because you can sell it by fatal Influence once
(01:28:26):
again uses the numbers to their vantage, which now it
seems like there might they They seem to be building
some dissent between fatal Influence pushing Vallon Henley to be
a singles competitor again. I'm yep, I'm gonna go with Josh.
Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
J C.
Speaker 6 (01:28:49):
Jane retains.
Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Okay, okay, j C Jane retains the title. I think
it would be a good sword. Myself and Annie both
said Jordan Grace, So I'm definitely going to be like I.
I really hope the discord is active tonight because I
really want to get everybody's thoughts in our discord. We're
up to twenty now, next stop fifty. I want to
get you guys thoughts and watch an evolution because I
(01:29:11):
think this is gonna be a really good show, and
we're gonna move on to a match that, oh man,
I think we all know definitely is going to have
major eyes and a microscope on it in a major way.
That's the no holds barred match with special guest referee
Bianca Bella, Jay Cargle versus Naomi Voice. Who do you
think is gonna win between Miss Mooney in the bank
(01:29:32):
and the Queen of the Ring.
Speaker 7 (01:29:36):
Well, so if they didn't do what they did last
night and add Bianca into this, my whole thing was
going to be Jade wins this because she needs to
win this. But Naomi goes out completely, just demolish blood,
(01:29:58):
laughing because ultimately, you know she's got the case. Who cares?
She just wasted Jade's energy. She took Jade's focus away
from something. But now let's come to reality. Because Bianca
was added. I think this could it could go. It
(01:30:22):
could go similar to that. But I think Bianca turns
completely on Jade, and I think this new faction that
I've had in my head for so long starts to form,
and you see Bianca and Naomi join together. But as
(01:30:46):
heels they've been to me, they've been leaving Easter eggs.
They've been running that fucking commercial of the Heels of
WWE and Bianca bel Air is one of the first
ones that they put on there. They have not stopped
running that. I think that that is one of their
(01:31:07):
wyat signs of the fucking six coming back. I think
that's what it's happening. I may be wrong, but I've
been saying this for nine months. I cannot get off
that horse. That horse has taking me this far, and
it seems like things are falling into place. We had
the turn of Naomi. Naomi, we started going nuts, so
(01:31:30):
we had the Jade being alone to fend for herself
now and now Bianca's coming in. So there's the missing
piece of the puzzle, and hopefully my puzzle looks like
what I've been saying.
Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely have some thoughts because I
gotta I'm gonna have to give some thoughts on this
after Grun does, and I will, But Grun, what are
your thoughts? Who's winning this match? Jade Cargo versus Naomi
no holds barred match, Bianca Belairs special guests for free.
Who do you got?
Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
So?
Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
So?
Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
The question that I got running through my head is
how do they make Jade look like a valid competitor
against Tiffany Stratton at SummerSlam unless they are abandoning that
and looking for a way to get out of this.
If they are looking, I'm gonna go with Jade winning.
(01:32:29):
And I don't see a reason why Bianca doesn't get
involved because I feel like you don't add her on this.
There's gonna be some drama involved, Bianca attacks both. I
don't know, but if they are planning on taking Jade
out of SummerSlam, Naomi and Beyonca teaming up to take
out Jade is the way to do it, then you
(01:32:50):
can sell Jade can't compete because Bianca and Naomi are
now the bad bitches of WWE and they had to
take her out. So now we need to find a
new competitor for Tiffany Stratton and have some sort of
tournament or a fatal four way match whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Yeah, I think you would have to be a fatal
four way if they did your idea, just because at
this point, like once tonight is done, what do we
got like three weeks until until SummerSlam, like, and they're
already having to pivot a lot with the Seth stuff.
So it's it's I don't know what they're gonna do,
but I will say this though, when I did the
(01:33:31):
raw deal with House and O'Neil with Annie, I said
that I think Jade needed to win this match. I said,
Jade's gonna win the match because she needs the momentum
going into Summer Slam as she approaches her match with
Tiffany Stratton, the biggest match of her career by far.
But now that you've added the element of biyon cabell air,
I don't see why you don't just go ahead and
(01:33:54):
pull the trigger and have because you can do it
where Jade looks good. I promise you can. Jay can
come out of this thing looking great. She can totally
annihilate Naomi. She can hit her with two or three
of her finishers and you know, just try to get
her up because this is a heated rivalry, guys, this
is a heated rivalry. So a pinfall is not gonna
(01:34:16):
be enough. She's gonna want to try to, of course,
hurt Naomi. So maybe she's gonna try to, you know,
hit her with two or three jadeds maybe and then
on the third jaded when she's finally done with her
one two, Bianca Bellair, double birds right there in your face,
big four arm, taking you out, hitting you with that
kiss of death. Then you roll Naomi over, You take
(01:34:40):
Naomi's lifeless body, drape it over Jay's lifeless body. One
two three Fu. You never believed in me, you never
backed me up. But you know who still stayed down
for me no matter what. You know who had the
decency to call me, show up at my parents' house
when they wasn't there and wish my man a happy birthday?
Naomi did You didn't care about none of that. Yeah,
(01:35:03):
she's crazy as hell, but she's loyal, and I think
that that's where the tag team starts, between Bianca Belair
and Naomi.
Speaker 7 (01:35:13):
I love it. Yeah, you've just reiterated my story. I know,
love it, and it works perfectly in the situation, everything
is lining up. They need to just do it. Just
do it, Just pull the trigger. Just yeah, do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Literally. I don't want to jump too far because there's
still a lot of things to do, but I feel
like if you pull that trigger, I gotta at least
give you a bee for pulling that trigger. No matter
what happens throughout the rest of the night. You know
what I'm saying. But I'm just saying, pull that trigger.
Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
Just do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
You got nothing to lose. You guys have been very formulated.
Things have been kind of stale lately. How do you
rush things up again? Do it? Do it? We got
our guy Nick in the chat. He says, what guys,
what is up? Brother? We appreciate you coming and dropping in.
I know you enjoyed that ae W show. But we're
talking some evolution here because we have a Battle Royal
(01:36:10):
for the women's championship match at Clash in Paris. So
whoever wins this one gets a title opportunity at Clash
at Paris. If you guys want to just throw something
at the wall, I'm totally cool with it, just because
I'm not for sure on like every single participant in
how this Battle Royal is gonna go. I'm gonna start
it with grun though. Who do you think is gonna
win this thing? Bro? Who do you think is gonna
(01:36:31):
come out and get a championship opportunity to Clash in Paris?
Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
Nikki Bella, I don't think that. I look, I hate it.
I hate that I think she's gonna win. I want
her to be Leiminade.
Speaker 7 (01:36:46):
First.
Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
I want whoever, anybody please bring back Victoria and have
her win. I'll be fine with that. I love a
couple of times it's like, I'll take I'll like Victoria,
I'll take a j I'll take uh, I'll take Page
not Nicky Bella, Okay, because w W look do you
(01:37:10):
like it is? Nicky Bella is so oversaturated. The Bellas
are so oversaturated when it comes to WWE that I'm
fine with Stephane's recurr winning. I'm like, yeah, I know,
I know, Josh, you don't like Stephie And look I
am definitely seen like, okay, yeah, she's solid in the ring,
(01:37:31):
not a whole lot of substance behind her in the
in reality unfortunately, and you know what, like, yeah, that's
she she did a move that people really like for
the wrong reasons. And and Devil's Kiss and Booker t
(01:37:52):
got it over like congratulations.
Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
But don't sexualize us.
Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Look look.
Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Like comic.
Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
That wasn't that that said, oh they need to stop there.
I can't remember what the comment was.
Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
I think it was Mickey James talking about what the
women were.
Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
She made a comment like that that was what. Yeah, okay,
that was yeah, but that wasn't the I don't know
what I get it. I can't even remember the comment.
It wasn't important then, because you know what, you got
to get attention on the women's division and the sex
feel help. Absolutely, But at the same time, guess what
(01:38:39):
I lost interest at eighteen in the women's division because
that's all it was sex appeal. Yeah, this is right
right now, This is not that right now, this is
not the sex feel exists. Sure were, But at the
same time they put on great matches. Yeah, so so
like all the men, and then you get them to
(01:39:01):
say that's that's the plan. But yeah, Nikki Bella, it's
gonna win. Please tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
Somebody, please tell me I'm wrong. Here all right, man,
we have got the Women's Battle Royal here man, they
get an opportunity for a championship shot at clash in Paris. Voice,
what are you thinking man? Any ideas.
Speaker 7 (01:39:25):
On this one? I really don't know. I mean, it
makes sense for the nicky Bella because WWE has a
weird boner for her. I don't understand it. The I
could see Stephanie winning it. They definitely have, they have
they want to push her. They want to get her
(01:39:47):
in as many households as possible. Grun's not interested in
losing his virginity. I'll get you and nick you know me, No,
you don't know me. You don't know you don't know
that one. We're not even gonna go any further into
that one. But anyways, I this is the one match.
(01:40:11):
I'm I'm just not really. I know I should care
because there's there's some type of opportunity and it affects
the storyline. But I the reason I don't care is
because I see exactly what Grun's saying. I think they're
gonna give it to Nikki because it's gonna be over
in Paris. It's not Clash at Paris. Is anybody really like,
(01:40:32):
oh my fucking I cannot wait to get home to
watch Clash at Paris. No, no one is. And if
you are and they're going over shut up, shut up.
The world is tired of people like you, and you
just need to just stop. Not everything needs to be
great and grand just because we're going through Paris. You
(01:40:54):
know what, It's gonna be a bunch of people over
there hating you, the fact that you're over there, wrestling.
Look at these Americans coming in Nordwsaline. Fuck off, no
one cares. Just give us. If you're gonna give us, Nikky,
just fucking release it. Already, release the fucking winner. Let
us know. So we can just use this one to
(01:41:15):
see big moves and if you're bringing anybody back. If
they do bring back aj Lee, though, I'm gonna be
super excited. I've been calling for her for months now.
You guys have too, The household has been calling strong.
But yeah, I for some reason, for some reason, I
(01:41:36):
gotta go with Grun on this one. I just it's
so I mean, I'm not that you picked it, but
the fact that the insanity that they would go with
this pick because of their fucking obsession with these What
the fuck did Vince do to these twins backstage that
they get this fucking card for so long? Jesus Christ. Look,
(01:42:01):
he's like a true stratus card.
Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
Here's the only thing that I can think that was
happening backstage. Nicole and Brianna. Yeah, because I don't think
Nicki and Brie did anything. I think it was Nicole
and Brianna. They fought to change the women's division. They
were the sacrificial lamb for whatever the hell it was
(01:42:23):
it was, and somehow it got Page, It got Becky Lynch,
he got Charlotte Flair, he got Sasha Banks, he got
Bailey on w W E, t V v U and
as much as you hate it, Alexa Bliss two, Carmela
Uh yeah, yeah, and uh. I don't even know who
(01:42:46):
else was considered a major competitor at the time and time,
but somebody had to be the one to speak up
for the women's division. My own guess is that Nicole
and Brianna where the the two front runners, especially with
how much time they were getting on TV.
Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Kay, that's that is fair man.
Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
I okay, so we're gonna before you go in grin,
we're gonna put a pin in yours and we're gonna
discuss more of that on Monday.
Speaker 6 (01:43:17):
So good because.
Speaker 7 (01:43:19):
I I don't know about that one there, Bud. I
don't think those two said a word. I think they
just allowed shit to happen. But how sorry I cut
you off?
Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
You were good man. Check out everything that they do
on Mondays. That's Window lickors 'ra all a preview review show.
Most definitely check it out and they're gonna put a
pin in that one. But I said that Stephanie Viquier
is gonna win this one. And I now that you
guys have brought in the thought that Nikki Bella could win,
because that's not a thought that I had previously had before.
(01:43:50):
Now I'm afraid. Now I'm afraid, like I'm I'm worried.
I'm worried, but it's it's I'm gonna stump just for
the sake of because you guys had that thought, which
isn't a bad thought. I hear exactly what you guys
are saying. I'm gonna stay with Stephanie. I'm gonna stay
with Stephanie Vakier and say if she can get herself
a possibility. Now here's my issue with it is that
(01:44:14):
that's going to cause an issue for me. And here's why.
I'll explain why I like Stephanie Vaker. I think she's
very talented. I think that her you know, whole La
Premira thing is good. I understand the great history that
she has, you know, in Lucha libre, Mexican wrestling and whatnot.
But it's gonna be tough because you have talents such
(01:44:37):
as Julia who's now the Women's United States champion. You
have talents like Roxan Perez who's now one half of
the Women's Tag Team champions and and you know, part
of the judgment day. And then you have Lyra Valcario
who's competing for her second Women's International Championship and she's
mixing it up with Bailey and Becky Lynch. What is
(01:45:00):
it makes Stephanie vack Care so special that she gets
to jump the line and be able to compete against
the EO Sky or a or a rear Ripley or
you know, possibly a Tiffany Stratton or's somebody like that,
because we don't know, they haven't specified which title it's
gonna be, you know, unless she wins it and goes
(01:45:21):
back to compete for the NXT Championship, which that would
totally be like, Man, I hate that. I hate that
because why would you take your championship opportunity and go
back to a title that you've already won, you know
what I'm saying? So and damn it, chat Chief's.
Speaker 5 (01:45:41):
Joke.
Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
I love it, man, I love it. But yeah, I'm
gonna stay with Stefanie v Ker But Weston, for me,
that that that is going to cause other problems, so
maybe they'll pivot and do something else. But well, we'll
see from there. But we do got to move on
because we have the WWE Women's Tag Team Championship Fatal
four Way. We is now officially confirmed here, it's finished
(01:46:06):
up here. The card is final because when we when
myself and and Annie did it, it wasn't finalized. So
now we have the Women's Tag Team Championship Fatal four
Way where Keil Rodriguez and Roxane Perez the champions the
Judgment Day against the Kabuki Warriors, Oscar Kyrie saying Alexa
Bliss and Charlotte Flair and Sol Ruka and Saria. This
(01:46:27):
could possibly be a really great match, but grun, who
do you think is going to win it?
Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
So?
Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
Uh, I mean ask the team I'm going for is
Raquel Rodriguez and Roxanne Perez. I think it means more
for them to win, especially if they are gonna go.
The dumb is going to start calling Roxanne her his uh,
(01:46:55):
his side piece, he's and it's gonna be live more.
That's gonna be tossed out of the Judgment Day. If
that is around they are going, then Roxanne and Raquel
need to win.
Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Okay, No, that's that's fair. I think that's the safe bet.
I said that very thing on Wednesday. I think that's
the safe way to go. But I had a different thought.
We'll talk about that in a second, because we got
to get the voices thoughts on this fatal four way
for the Women's Tag Team Championship. That's Judgment Day, Kabooki Warriors,
Blissen Flair, so Ruken Zario, who do you got?
Speaker 7 (01:47:29):
I gotta go? And it pains me to say, much
like it pained grun to say the Bellas, but this,
I think the less friends, I think they're getting it
to them.
Speaker 6 (01:47:41):
I'm that's.
Speaker 7 (01:47:46):
Well, I don't want to. I think the people backstage,
I guess do a lot of us fans, and I'm
talking to you fans. I find that we we find
the good and the greatness in between the ropes. Creative
has a hard time telling those stories, so we develop
(01:48:10):
our fandom over them. So I think this is the
lazy way right now because this, as much as I
don't want to admit it, this tag team is picking
up momentum in fandom, and you know, creative is like,
oh god, people are making so they're going to pull
(01:48:31):
the trigger way too quick, and then they're going to
setting in the strip club and you're gonna have puddles
on your sweatpants because you couldn't just hold it in.
You know, maybe wear a jean so you don't go
too quick. You know, sweatpants aren't the reason, or they
are the reason anyways. So what I think needs to
happen is they're going to put it onto these two.
(01:48:56):
I don't know why. I don't really think so Ruka
and Zaria. I don't think they're going to give it
to them because I think there's a split to be
happening with those two, and it God, I don't want
this to happen. But I even think even having Raquel
and Roxanne retain and then going the route Grun saying
(01:49:21):
with dominant Colin recite, I think that's lazy because dom
can get that heat without doing that dastly deed. You know, right,
he's able to pull that in. But again, Grun, they
are the laziest fucking writers when it comes to the
women's division. So you know, I just if you go
(01:49:45):
that route and they retain, I think what needs to
happen is as a collective judgment day need to be
really hyped on Roxanne, and then that way, when Live
does come back, everybody stoked about Roxanne, which that gives
somebody like the sewer rat Live She's like, men, I
(01:50:08):
want the cheese, and everybody's like, no, Roxanne got the cheese.
She's like doing really good and she's like, yeah, fuck
that shit, I'm about to hit the wall and me.
So I think it's I think that's what's happening. It's
if you go that route though, I think that would
be really fun because you're building up Roxanne and you're
(01:50:29):
building up Raquel too, Because then the question is going
to become where does Raquel's allegiance align. Does she stay
with the young talent that has pushed her and got
her to keep the gold or does she go with
the friend who got her to the dance.
Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
That's a good, good side story. I like that a lot.
That's really really good. I'll keep mine short and simple
in this way I should be. I think it's going
to be Charlotte and Alexa. My I think it's gonna
be Charlotte and Alexa, just because the way they're lining
it up. So the way they're lining it up. I say, Charlotte,
Alexa the safe pick. Just retain with Rock Sane and
(01:51:11):
Raquel Risque, So Ruka and Zaria go with if you
want to go with something different but consistent Kabooki Warriors.
But all in all, I'm saying they're gonna go with
with Alexa and Charlotte. And you know, if you want
to hear my reason on that, just go earlier to
the episode I talked about it so.
Speaker 7 (01:51:31):
So and also the Discord does have all con puts
all the links when the shows go live in the Discord,
so you can always go back yep to that catalog
and check those out too.
Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
Most definitely, most definitely. But we got to move on
to what, in my personal opinion, I think has high
potential to be Match of the Night. I'm super excited
for it. It's for one of my favorite titles, whether
it be the men or the women. But I'm just
talking about the history of the Interconinal Championship as a whole.
As we have a triple threat match to women's Icy
time was on the line. Becky lynch champion goes up
(01:52:02):
against Bailey and the first ever Women's IC champion, Lyra
Valcaria Grun. I'm sorry, Grun. Who do you got?
Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
Man?
Speaker 6 (01:52:11):
I went bagging forth on this between Lyra and Bailey
because I don't think Becky's walking out with the title.
I think Bailey. I think Bailey winning makes more drama
and can be the thing to push Lyra to the
next level. I'm going with Bailey.
Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Bailey. Okay, Bailey is a good pick just because I
Bailey right now, because of the way she presents, Like
we're having that discussion with Charlotte Flair about like, oh,
she has to have humility, she has to have her
ego check, she needs to go to the mid card
and be a tag team with Alexa, and how she
deals with that. Bailey is somebody that has always just
(01:52:57):
been you give her something that you're gonna work with it.
It's never like an ego thing like that. She's just Okay,
want me do this, all right. I'll try to make
it to work the best I can, you know. And
that's just how it's always been with Bailey. So Bailey
being in the mid card honestly feels perfect. But voice
who you got in this triple threat match for the
women's icy title.
Speaker 7 (01:53:16):
Oh, I think the man walks out, okay, because her
husband just injured himself, so the man's got to bring
home the bacon. So you got to keep that title
on her so they know exactly what they go into surgery.
Whatever you got, she's gotta make that money, grun gotta
make that money. But I would say, Bailey, I will
(01:53:37):
say this, you guys are hitting every note with Bailey.
Bailey is that Swiss army knife. Bailey is that one
to take the five minutes that she has given, no
matter what if she's hugging, if she's ding dong in you,
if she's just getting pissed off, or if she's just
(01:53:57):
laughing with a bunch of girls that she's started a
coalition with. Bailey knows what to do in front of
that camera. I think what's going to happen is Becky
wins this and then Bailey and Becky have another match
without Lyra, and then Bailey gets that win, takes the
(01:54:18):
title off of Becky, and then we get the Lyra
Bailey feud because I think that that will carry us
after SummerSlam. That will give us some story, some meat
to that women's I see title with a nice blood
(01:54:40):
feud between those two I think a nice at least
give me three, maybe five matches with them until Lyra
takes it off of her. And I don't care if
they're back to back on a whatever night you want
to throw them on, or if it's a pl but
just give me something that means something with these two
(01:55:02):
when you do link them up, because ultimately it's going
to be Bailey who's going to push Lyra to that
next level out of the nest. Baby Bird's gotta fly
and Bailey's going to have that whole game plan for
her and a huge win over Bailey for an icy
title that means something in the women's division today.
Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
You are right, You are right, great points, and you
know you guys. Both of you have made me more
excited for this match than I was before. One of
the reasons why is because we all have different picks.
We had Grun who is saying Bailey. We have you
who is saying Becky. I'm saying Lyra. I think the
Bird Lady is going to come out of this because
(01:55:49):
I feel like that this feud was designed to elevate
Lyra Valcaria. Now can she still be elevated without winning tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:55:59):
Apps?
Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
But something in me is looking at the story, and
I'm looking at the bitter hatred between Becky Lynch and
Bailey that goes back. These are two women that are considered,
you know, two of the four horse women, and I
just think that amongst the chaos, the hatred that these
two women have for each other, Lyra can take advantage
and be elevated and she'll be able to call herself
(01:56:22):
not only the first ever women's icy champion, but the
first ever two time women's icy champion. So I love
this match. I'm excited even more because we all had
different picks. That's gonna be so good and once again
for me, that has match of the night potential for sure.
But we got to move on to one of the
(01:56:45):
two Women's World Championship matches. I mean when we talked
about it on Wednesday, it really wasn't, you know, moving
any needles, just just being honest with you guys. But
I gotta ask my guys here, and I'm gonna start
with grun ww Women's Championship match, Tiffany's and champion against
Trish Stratus. Who do you.
Speaker 6 (01:57:02):
Got Tiffany's stretton next.
Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
Period, period, period. That's it. That's all that needs to
be said voice. I mean, whatever, bro, what do you?
Speaker 5 (01:57:13):
What do you?
Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
What do you think I was gonna say the same thing.
I'll give a little more in depth, I guess since
grunts just fucking running out of the stadium. It's like
he just he went into a full stadium of people
and dropped a word that we're not supposed to say
and then ran the fuck out. Left there you go, Josh,
(01:57:35):
you're next. So I think, uh, I think Tiffany wins this. Honestly, Trish,
for the career you've had, that's fantastic. I'm happy that
I got to watch it from you being a manager
to you being an influential woman in the women's division.
(01:57:58):
But in this day and a age, I feel that
the interjection of Trish into this specific storyline is wrong.
You're taking spots from somebody else. You're you're not, in
my opinion, you're not the drawl that you once were. Yes, well,
(01:58:23):
you'll get the nostalgia dollars most definitely. But the fact
of the matter is is that we're trying to push
Tiffany Stratton's rein into something that is digestible by everybody.
So it's like this her her first rain. I think
(01:58:43):
needs to be the thing that they talk about during
her fourth reign, And for me, as a fan, an
opponent like Trish doesn't do that. For me, I'm get
all the happy dollars and all the good feelings and
warm insides and all the boner poppins you need to
(01:59:05):
in this match, but for me, this is like hitting
the emergency brake in the middle of what looks like
an amazing card.
Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Yeah, I it's forced. It's forced. It's Tiffany Stratton. We
all all all across the board between you two fellas,
myself and Annie, We're all saying, Tiffany, this one's not
gonna be fun, man, this is gonna be just them,
you know, because they have that common core respect for
each other. We got Nick Roque saying, was Trish all
(01:59:36):
of your first wrestling crush? I feel like she's false advertising.
I was a leader fan myself. Listen, I'm this is.
Speaker 7 (01:59:43):
Not like I like this question I do.
Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
This is not the This ain't the Trish Bashing Club
or anything like this. But I will say this, she wasn't.
She was not my first wrestling crush. She wasn't at all.
Speaker 6 (02:00:02):
I'll mine like like you Nick, Mine was leda odd
mean like, I was not offended by seeing Trish. Tris
was Gorgon, still is Gorgish today. I like Maria to
Tory Wilson. So Mickey James.
Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Mickey James was my first wrestling crush.
Speaker 7 (02:00:21):
I I okay.
Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
Mickey James was really the one, like and it was
during those you know, informative years, if you know what
I mean, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, it was,
it was definitely. It was definitely Mickey James. She's the
one that I was like, oh man, let me get
the poster in my room. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (02:00:40):
I love it. I love it. And what I love
the most is the chat Chief Chat Chief. If I
had this meme, do we just become best friends? Because
he is hitting on my mind, I'm gonna say, what's Sonny.
Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Oh Man and everything she came? But I'm not I'm
just I'm not judging because during Sunny's Day she was beautiful.
I mean, I just I think my biggest thing, and
if we're being candid here, just being honest, my biggest
thing with Trisha is, you know, I'm not a huge
fan of like the the enhancement surgeries. You know what
(02:01:15):
I'm saying like that, I don't personal preference. I like,
you know, if you want to pull back the curtain
about what what you know, old uncle kOhm likes I
like all natural and I'll leave it at that. So
so you know, I'm just not a fan of that.
But like, yeah, it wasn't tristrated. She was not my
first wrestling crush.
Speaker 7 (02:01:35):
No, no, no, they I mean the way I could
see a lot of people being that, A lot of
my friends that was their first too. But you know,
I was a deviant back in the day, and it
was shown things I shouldn't have been seen at eleven,
and being like that makes me feel weird.
Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
Yeah, bro, I listen, I get it was Listen. I
respects her ability.
Speaker 7 (02:02:03):
This might be comment of the night. Oh I'm sorry all.
Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
Of cell block C is having sunny days.
Speaker 7 (02:02:12):
Yeah, we looked that up.
Speaker 3 (02:02:13):
You still have you earned that? Nick?
Speaker 7 (02:02:17):
She still has uh what is it.
Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Uh like seventeen years? Bro?
Speaker 7 (02:02:20):
Yeah, yeah, she got sent in seventeen years. She's I
am in twenty three. So yeah, she's got fifteen years.
Speaker 11 (02:02:26):
Lefteen years left. Well that's tough, business man, Nick, You
earned that yaowie wowe man. But uh yeah, that that
was that was great. I enjoyed that question. Uh that yeah,
that question from nick Man was he was she wasn't.
So it just it just what but respect her. I
do got a lot of respect for her. But at
(02:02:47):
the same token that I got respect for her.
Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
Not excited for this match in the slightest bit, I'm
not even gonna lie. I'm glad we kind of kept
that a little bit short, had some laughs in there,
but I definitely didn't want to break down that match
analysis in the slightest bit. Not excited for that. Let's
go to what's probably gonna be the main event of
the evening. That's the Women's World Championship match champion Eo
Sky versus rear Ripley. This one where we've seen them
(02:03:12):
match up against each other time and time again. I
feel like this match here, specifically between these two is
polarizing because it does have Summer Slam implications as far
as who's gonna be the champion going in the Summer Slam.
But I've gotta ask my man, grun, who do you
think is gonna win this match? Is it gonna be
Eo Sky? Is she gonna retain or will Rear Ripley
(02:03:33):
become champion once again.
Speaker 6 (02:03:36):
I feel like the correct the answer is Ria Ripley.
I'm gonna go with EO Sky I because I do
think Rhea is close to facing the problem of being
oversaturated in WWE. I think EO wins here, and look
if you wanna, if you're not sure what to do
(02:03:57):
with Riha, like I don't know, there's You've probably come
up with something for her to enhance Stephanie Julia, I
don't know, but do something else with her because I
i Oscar, like, either Oscar is coming back to push
(02:04:19):
up Kyrie Sing and Yo Sky, or she's coming back
to uh To to just be the Kobbookie Warriors again.
So I like the Kobookie Warriors thing. Like I'm honestly
thinking that it's a viable bet that they implode either
(02:04:40):
after tonight or tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
On raw Okay, okay, I just I like what chat
Chief is saying here, EO wins Stephanie versus EO at Paris. Listen,
I said it on a Wednesday and I'm saying it again.
I got no problem with seeing Neo Sky versus Oscar SummerSlam.
I I don't think that's where they're gonna go, but
(02:05:02):
I would love to see that match. Voice, what do
you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (02:05:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
Where are you at? We have Eoskuy champion. It's been
a weird reign for her since she won it. It's
been up, it's been down. She had a few great
matches before WrestleMania, then after that she's just been struggling
to get TV time a lot of these weeks. But
where are you at? Man? We got Eosky rear Ripley
World Heavyweight Championship on the line. Who do you got?
Speaker 7 (02:05:29):
Well? I got Io who I want to win. But
I think they might see This is what I hate
about creative There. When was the last time we've had
a storyline in which one wrestler never got over another wrestler.
Speaker 6 (02:05:49):
Never got over another rest like, never beat him.
Speaker 7 (02:05:52):
Never beat him, never like anytime they faced him in
a good question?
Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
I mean I would have I'm not gonna lie. I
have to look that up.
Speaker 6 (02:06:00):
So one of the last ones. So one of the
one big ones I remember is that apparently every up
until WrestleMania twenty five, Shawn Michaels always beat the Undertaker
every time they faced one on one Shawn Michael's one.
I remember that.
Speaker 7 (02:06:23):
I was laughing at chat Chief he said, e O
Sky has a Roman Reigns sketch.
Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
Well, I mean, look the title. There are multiple ways
to make a title important, and lots of defenses is
absolutely one of them. Another way is to keep the
title rare, rarely on TV or rarely exposed. And that
was so when it does show up, it's a special moment.
Speaker 7 (02:06:49):
Okay. So going off of even with the just go
Shawn Michael's the Undertaker, why wouldn't you play in that world?
Then have that possibility in the women's division to where maybe, uh,
maybe she can just never get over you. Maybe Rhea
(02:07:09):
can just never get that win when it matters against Io,
and you continue that until it gets to a point
to where boom, she finally gets that win, And why
wouldn't you save that for like a mania or something
like that. But I feel that they're they're hyping up.
(02:07:29):
They've been talking about the fact that she's never gotten
over on you, never gotten the win. So I think
that's where they're going. I think they're gonna they're gonna
pull the trigger they're gonna give her her moment because
they think, oh, everybody thinks they're oversaturated. But if we
go with this story angle in which all you can
(02:07:50):
do is be happy that she finally beat Io, are
we though? Because it's like going to the high school
basketball try out and you see the kid who's six'
eight dunking on the kid who's five to, two and they're, like,
man this this dude's going all. State i'm telling. You
i'm telling, you it's, like well is? He because he's
(02:08:12):
just there's midgets around, him so of course you can
just dunk on. Them what are you talking? About SO,
i HONESTLY i think what they need to do is
they need to hold on to that that idea in
this story because it's something you're going to be able
to go back to when you. Too you don't need
to right. Now what you need to do is Pull
(02:08:33):
rhea back a little, bit and slapping a title on
her is definitely not the way to do. That BUT
i feel that's where they're. Going but IF i want
my personal, PICK i think it's gonna Be io, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
Gotcha this is WHERE i think they've they're hitting a
strange place because you Have Summer, slam which we all
know is one of their big. Shows it's one of
their big mainstream you, know bring in all the celebrities
and make it to where, everybody you, know you want
(02:09:07):
everybody to watch this like it's that time of year
where you want everybody to look at it like a.
Mania you know What i'm. Saying this is one of
your big four right, here With Royal, rumble With WrestleMania
and then With Survivor. Series So, SummerSlam they they're gonna
have to do some big. THINGS i feel like they're
gonna go with the main event or with The i'm,
sorry the main stream appeal Of Rial ripley going into
(02:09:34):
going Into summerslam's champion NOW i say, that but also
we're hitting a strange spot With rea where they don't
know what to do with. Her she's not getting involved
in the, championship and that's when you start Hitting Charlotte
flair levels of. Dangerous you, know we you know a
lot of us Love Ria. Ripley we're huge fans of,
(02:09:55):
her and we enjoyed her rise and her come. Up
it's you, know to becoming mommy and everything that she's.
Become but now you kind of hit a spot where
you've plateaued with her where her only singular focus is
just winning the. Title you don't have anything else for.
HER i, mean you got to figure it out because
You're we talked about oversaturation earlier in the, show AND
(02:10:18):
i believe Real ripley's name came, up and that's where we're.
At we're at a dangerous spot where you're oversaturating one
of your top, stars where you, know you got to
figure out a way to pull her back and to you,
know pretty much to pair it What voyce, said putting
the title on her is not gonna do that in any,
way shape or. Form SO i think that Uh Greer
(02:10:39):
ripley's going to win, tonight BUT i don't know if
it's the best.
Speaker 7 (02:10:44):
Move fair.
Speaker 3 (02:10:48):
Fair so that's where we're out with. It uh that
is our evolution predictions. Here it was a great. SHOW
i really enjoyed the show just because across the board
there was so much to talk. About we talked to
him aw LITTLE Nxt Saturday night main, event and then we,
uh we did a prediction for. Evolution really appreciate. It
(02:11:09):
when my guys come in give me their time and
we have some great, episodes AND i always got to
show that respect by throwing it over to my, man
the Blue liye Villain grunmeister. Here where can they catch
you and everything that you're?
Speaker 6 (02:11:19):
Doing you can catch me at twitch dot we Slash.
Grumdmeister also on YouTube under the same name. NAME i
stream Every ford a seven Pm Eastern SmackDown rev preview
talk EVERYTHING wwe this past this past, RECORDING i actually
went o respected him in about twenty five minutes BECAUSE
(02:11:40):
i also wanted to get through the entire weekend OF Wwe.
Wrestling hause screw aw.
Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
Oh the ae W haight is here from our, man The.
Grunmeister he covers all Things. SmackDown he's A wwe, Guy
ladies and gentlemen and. Guys i'm gonna give it over
to our man voice here in a. Second but that
voice we do have a little bit. Of you, know
we're kind of fooling around with some things and stuff
that's coming up On. Thursday, thursday we're gonna be watching
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the second half Of november to remember nineteen ninety. Nine
but we can't say anything right, now but we're kind
of in talks right. Now is to possibly get on
another big. Guest we've Had Bill, alfonso we've Hosted, sandman
and we've hosted Sab boo one of his final. Interviews
we might we can't say any names yet until we
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get it all dialed, in but we've got another possible
big name coming to THE ecw watch along once. Again
we gotta keep that concealed until things are tied. Down
BUT i gotta throw it over to our man, voice
tell them everything you do and then give him a
little bit of talk about what we do ON.
Speaker 7 (02:12:45):
Ecw all, right so everybody come check us. Out we
do a. Lot first, off let's let's start off what
you're gonna hit with Tomorrow tomorrow at seven. Pm it
is one of the best shows growing and it's The
monday night raw preview review. Show we're, me The Blue Eyed, Villain,
grundmeister and The Chaos goblin, Himself Kevin. Callaway we Talk
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Monday Night ral and we invite you to join us
and have some. Fun we talked three subjects and we
invite you to give your. Opinions just like you did.
Here we invite you to do it. There and that's
On mondays at seven. Pm outside of, THAT i go
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Pm come join. Us we have a blast. There it's
a bunch of fun and it's AN Ecw Watch. Along
we usually have a segment before during our normal. Shows
these two that we just the one we did and
one we're about to, do those are our special shows
where we get captivated with the, storyline so we want
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to follow the pay per. View so that's what we
did on this one because we're going to go right
back into the storyline because that's what we. Love that's
me And house and we have. Fun we invite you
to come and have that.
Speaker 5 (02:14:04):
Fun.
Speaker 7 (02:14:05):
Now there's so many things we got planned coming, up you.
Know there's talks of an, auction there's talks of, guests
there's talks of all these. Things but what you need
to do is you need to be a part of
that discord because that's where you're going to get every single,
drop especially What house is talking about, now because once
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we get, confirmation our discord is going to be the
first ones to know, it and they'll probably know. It
they'll know it for a day before everybody. Else because
we're going to have to make all these, things all these,
announcements make sure people are, there but we want you
to be a part of. It so the discord is
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you don't have to change your last name To fa.
Tou you just need to be. INTERESTING i love.
Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
It that is our, guy the Voice Josh. Joseph check
out all the things that he's. Doing i'm really excited
with the possibility of what could be happening with THE.
Ecw watch along as the rest of this month goes,
on because once again possible big, guests one of the
guys who really was who was one of the voices OF.
Ecw that's ALL i can. Say that's. It you take
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whatever you want from. That that's. It that's All i'm giving.
You but once again we'll have some more information once.
Week once again get things. Confirmed but then we have
the second half Of november to remember nineteen ninety. Nine
this Coming, thursday join us for. THAT i love what we're.
DOING i love what we did on this past episode
of The Sunday House. Party this has been a good
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one in my. Opinion everything, discussed every thing, discussed and
we had to because it was a big wrestling. Weekend
so this was another exciting episode as far as WHAT
i got going. On LIKE i, said make sure you're
checking out all things that's going down On. Wednesday we
talk all Things Monday Night, raw that is The raw
deal With house and. O'Neil we Had annie return after
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a few weeks of hiatus with some, illness getting, engaged
going to the electric forests and finding herself there a
lot of awesome. Things we were happy to have her.
Back she gave some of her thoughts and her evolution.
Predictions and Then i'm breaking some news, here ladies and,
gentlemen because you, know one of the reasons THAT i
got involved in the wrestling business is because of a
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man by the name of The Right hand Of, God Sam,
knight and he's one of my best friends in the,
business in one of my best friends. PERIOD i considered
him a brother LIKE i do the fellas on this,
show and he's a big piece of WHAT iyh became
and how we were able, to you, know really get
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access to some of the amazing guests that we've had
and some of the backstage opportunities that we've. Had it's
come through my Friend Sam. Knight and if you guys know,
anything if you guys are AN og listener of in your,
house you know THAT i have managed this man through
some of the best moments of his. Career, well my
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man is going on his he he's in midway through
his last year of. Wrestling, September i'm, Sorry november will
be his final appearance at the end Of, november The
Sam Night Last. Ride but he's been wrestling and really
making memories for himself this last. Year and, Man i'm
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proud to say that on the, nineteenth this Coming, saturday
he will be In, Shelbyville, indiana he will be At
New Era wrestling In, Shelbyville, indiana wrestling against one of
the most respected in the area and that Is Damian
Michael COLE. Dmc it's gonna be two vets going at,
(02:18:07):
It Damian, Cole Sam. Knight one last time with the
Director Hollywood house At Sam Knight's. Corner that's. Right i'll
be returning making My New era debut to be there
with my, man the right hand To, God Sam, knight
for his final appearance In New Era wrestling In, Shelbyville.
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Indiana make sure you go check that. Out tickets are
available right. Now it's gonna be a, fun fun night
with a lot of great, wrestling and you'll get a
chance to if you're in That, Shelbyville indiana, area you'll
get a chance to appreciate the greatness Of Sam knight
one final. Time it's gonna be. Great so, yeah that's
all the things going. On we'll talk more about that
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as the week goes. On but, Guys i'm back And
i'm happy to be announcing that type of. Stuff i'm
happy what we're doing with THE. Ecw watch. Along you,
know we're really starting to amp up. Again the discord is,
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creation here And Sister, annie that we do this. Together you,
guys give me your. Time it's always, truly truly appreciated
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Work and that's H O wsc and THE w stands for.
Work so for The grunmeister and for the Voice, Josh
joseph and the whole. Team hear. It in your house
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Speaker 10 (02:19:52):
Discord, peace, yeah, yeah in your house with no cond
and your kind of your, house by your.
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Word in your house a box.
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Syciding in, clouds creating no kind of, louds wrestling in
front of the.
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Crowds parent got's holding it. Down anybody can anybody can't get.
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It guys just standing.
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Notice since he has no, voice there is no. Choice
here's some choice in your house making wrestling.
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Noise going. Back it's like cruising weight.
Speaker 5 (02:20:24):
Action no house is the perfect.
Speaker 3 (02:20:25):
Distraction you probably see your here's when you.
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Attraction this work was the brestl impact of smoke