July 10, 2025 • 57 mins
Ep. 488: Howse, Voice & Grun break down Smackdown from the 4th of July and play That's True That Might Be True That's Ridicious Saturday Night Main Event and Evolution Edition.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ah yeah, in your house with Oconn and your conn
of your house? How do your world in your house?
House hypocacies had in the clouds, get ready to knock
on the loud wrestling in front of the crowds. Paragun's
holding it down. Anybody can anybody can get it, guys,
just a standing known as decisions. He is the voice.
(00:21):
There is no choice. Where's the voice in your house?
Making wrestling noise drooping fact, it's like cruise weight action
in your house is a perfect distraction. Do you see
your ears? When you intraction can get this work with
some wrestling acts?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
What is up?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Guys? What is cracking? Is the common And I am
in your house and you guys already know the vibes
anytime we said on through, we're here to give you
that work when it comes with professional wrestling business. And guys,
it is Sunday, and uh, guys, it is another glorious Sunday. Here.
I can see outside of our window. It's a sunny day.
(00:55):
It's a wonderful day. We just came off of SmackDown,
and we just came off the fourth of July. I
had a good time chilling with my family, cooking out
and then just chilled out. After that, I ate so much, y'all.
I ate so much, y'all had to just chill out.
I was chilling out in the bed. Then I turned
smack Down on enjoyed a good watch is smack Down.
(01:16):
Usually I have work the next day, but like I
said on the previous episode, I'm on vacation this week,
so I was just in my vibe, doing my thing,
just kicking it. It was a great, great night. And man,
what happened the next day is that we had a
lot of back and forth and talk in our discord
over SmackDown. You guys need to check it out. It
(01:38):
was very active. Oh yeah, it was very active. You
guys need to check out our discord everything that goes
down in there. And man, of course I'm talking SmackDown
or we're gonna dig deep into it. But I can't
talk SmackDown without my man, who does his thing over
on SmackDown. He hangs out in this room. He reviewed
(02:00):
in previews smack Down. He's the blue white villain himself,
the Grundmeister. What's up?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yo? What is up? SmackDown was very interesting. We'll definitely
get into that. But dude, we got Evolution next weekend,
Saturday Nights Meeting event MANX, Bash of the Beach next week,
Clash in Paris coming up, and SummerSlam. This is gonna
be busy time for WWE.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, oh man, we got He's in the chat right now.
He's saying my ribs was looking good. Hey man, you
should come on over. Hey, well, I will grill out again, bro.
I enjoyed it. I had a great time. And yeah,
I would love to feed the homies. We gotta have
an IYH grill out some point. That would be amazing.
(02:49):
I'll be on the grill and we could talk all
things wrestling. That would be amazing. But you know, we
have a lot of things. You guys hearing those drops
in the background, you guys are seeing the new background,
new vibe. That's because of our guy who does his
thing on Mondays, then he gets extreme on Thursday's producer
of the show. That's the voice Josh Joseph.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What is up?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Man?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That's very true, and you can see those rumors in
our discord that I set off about Grun. Grun is
usually my favorite target because well, secret time, I think
we were brothers. I really do. I think I'm the
older brother. I you know, we have that friend brotherly relationship.
So come join us on Discord. It's a fun time.
(03:36):
But I'm still glad to be here with you household,
and I cannot wait to talk about wrestling. So let's
get into it, guys.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, sir, we're gonna get into it. Like my man
Grunn was saying, we have a heavy, heavy weekend that
is coming up for wrestling. We just had the fourth
of July this past week. Then after that, I mean,
everybody's just kind of chilling. No big time wrestling shows
or anything like that. But you know, in your house,
(04:04):
we keep on going. We keep giving you that work,
and we're gonna look ahead to Evolution. We're gonna look
ahead to Saturday night's main event and add in anything
that we can add in. But before we do that,
we got to talk something smack down. But you know
we were on we were there in the green room
backstage before you know. We are show prep that we
(04:27):
usually do every single show that makes this show what
it is and and and that's you know, one of
the hottest podcasts in the Midwest, you know, for the
last six years because we do things like show Prep
and come together, and we started talking about some of
these possible signings for WWE, and it was something that
(04:48):
Voice had brought up. There was a few names, and
I've seen them circling circulating around Facebook, circulating around X,
circulating around you know, a little bit of Instagram, but
mainly X. When I go for big, like when I
go for deep cut rumors, that's where I normally go
as X. And some names came up that are that
have some ww interest, and I wanted to get some
(05:09):
of you guys out there in the household, and of
course my guys over here on the panel some thoughts
about these. So I'm gonna name these names and then
I'm gonna give it over to, you know, whoever. I
decided to give it up to, probably Voice. Start with Voice.
Names that are rumored to be coming over to WWE,
or at least have drawn interest from WWE or share
(05:32):
you know, or it's mutual interests. Britt Baker, the Private
Party tag team if you guys aren't familiar, and Dan Housen.
And from the from the three acts that I just said,
Dan Housen's name seems to be the most hottest when
(05:54):
it comes to a possibility of of what's of possibly
coming to the company. I know this is something we
talked about before we actually went on the air. Voice,
what are some of your thoughts about these possible signings.
I know you have a lot of interest in one
of them in particular where you at.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Uh, yeah, I mean, you know, Cat's not out of
the bag. Everybody knows that. I'm a huge Dan Housen fan,
and I think he would be a great piece in
the puzzle of WWE. But I also think everybody named
in there Britt Baker love Britt Baker could not Like.
(06:33):
I know, she has her own profession, she does her
own thing outside of wrestling, but I still think she's
a draw. I still think that name has some sizzle
to it. And tell me, tell me you wouldn't want
to see a Charlotte Flair Britt Breaker match.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, give it to me.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I want to see it. I want and I don't
want to see Charlotte Flair matches, but I want to
see that one, yeah, because I know I know what
Britt Baker can bring to a ring, and I think
right there, that's the type of talent Charlotte needs to
be aligning herself with it's somebody who's going to have
(07:14):
a straight up match with you. We're going to have
those moments where we applaud because of the chain wrestling
of the Matt wrestling. It's going to be a fun
time and I think she will be able to bring
something out of Charlotte that is missing right now. Private Party,
tell me that wouldn't be a fun fucking tag team
(07:35):
in this tag team division. It would be a shot
of adrenaline to the raw tag team. I know We've
talked about it. Even a lajahlanas said it. The raw
tag team is on fucking life support right now.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Dude, dude, dude.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We need to fix it. We need to make it something,
and I believe this tag team could do that. It
would be a fun thing. And tell me, tell me
you wouldn't want to see him up against pretty deadly
something something just to start it off that little taste,
and then you you come into Fantasma. Why wouldn't we
(08:14):
want to see that? Why wouldn't we want to see
I mean, look, I'm watching right now the tag match
with Jacob Flatu, Jim and going again Solo and Kyle.
This this is what I want to see now I
want to see this because now I'm interested in is
(08:35):
this side of the family gonna accept Jacob, because when
he first was talking about, they wanted nothing to do.
You're supposed to stay away from him, So for them
to even be in the talks, and honestly, Dan Hausen's
the one I've heard the most about and that I've
seen others that are associated with w w EE talk about,
(08:58):
So for them to be talking about it, for it
to be a thing, It's either a big swerve or
We're soon to have this very very nice but very
evil man in our backstages. And I'm all for it.
I want it. I want to see this. I want
to see all three of these people, or all three
(09:20):
of these characters, including the tag team, into one central
area that we get to see because all of these
everybody being talked about has been dropped by adew in
some way or another.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, and they deserve a chance to be a
really good act and I do I do believe that
they will. We're gonna get some grun starts. But before
we do that, I'm gonna go to the chat real
quick because i just want to make sure we're acknowledging
the chat, they're getting a hot in there. We got
og Tony saying WWE seems rushed to me right now,
I've heard that. I absolutely agree with you, Og, I
(09:59):
think you making a lot of sense, and yeah, they
need to slow their role. We could definitely pick up
on that. As we talk SmackDown. We got Gary Emmitt
in there. He says, if w W doesn't pick up
on guys like Dex Royal, Calvin Tankman, Eric Dillinger, Dion
Pitt Freeman, Billy Starks. Oh man, what a list here?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What in the Iron Demon, Shane Mercer, they got blinders on.
I absolutely agree with that everybody that you just named,
and that is just a bunch of heavy hitters and
they should be on that w w.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
E radar for sure, I hear you. But look, I'll
be happy if they signed Billy Starks before Bailey ends
her career.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh yeah, you want to see Billy Starks in Bailey?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, I see that. For some reason, you want
getting here mixed up with Izzy Moreno.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, no it's not not the same, but it would
still be a banger of a match. Yeah, it would
still be a bag. But I would want to see
is moreno as well, get that Get that match for sure,
Get that match for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I want to see Julia Hart.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh my god, Yeah that'd be good. I like that. Yeah,
you got og Tony saying he thinks that private party
would be good. We absolutely agree, and he also goes
on to say that he thinks Baker is stuck in
ae W because of contract. I didn't hear about that,
but I do know there's some mutual interest.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I did hear about that, now, I did hear over
the weekend. I know it's through one of the sites
that we don't like to really bring up because they're
mostly clickbait. But I think Britt might be getting released
from her contract or has been released. There's there's talk
(11:45):
of her contract. I love how Tony's on the pulse
of everything going on right now. Yeah, you're on it,
so og Tony. If I heard something wrong, I'm not
gonna say that it's not a possibility because it was
through like Russell News or something like that. So hopefully
it's right. But I the outside of Dan, the Dan
(12:07):
Housen information, I could almost say is pretty pretty fucking legit.
Like the people talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It, I'm I feel real strong about the Dan Housen get.
I feel real strong about that, but I want to
get Gruns thoughts. Where are you at with all these
possible future signings to w W What where do you
think they'd fit in?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I I like them all as future signings. I think
Dan Housen, if if we were going to compare the
spot that he would be in, we it would essentially
be the Our Truth spot. Okay, And it's like, it's
not It's not I mean not in an insult because Our
Truth has done a lot of a lot of amazing
moments and a lot of entertaining spots in that and
(12:53):
that's in that a position. Dan Housen, I think does
have the ability to tell a story where he maneuvers.
I think you could actually tell a story where you
he maneuvers manipulates his way to become world champion. It's
it's not believable as because I get it. He's not
that big of a guy. What he He's influenced all
(13:15):
these people around him. He has his own faction that's
healish and babyface at the same time.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It's the mcfoley mankind getting the world title. Uh Grun.
I would like to say I want to see him
more in a in the house I know you're gonna
pop for this name a Crash Holly title, Okay, situation
where he is the underdog. You see him, but he
he comes out there like Dan Hausen does, and he
(13:42):
acts like he's bigger than life. Yeah, and then gives
you a really good match. I don't need him to
be tossed around like a rag now like Crash was.
But Crash also had a huge following of fans. He was.
He was very prominent in the first hour of Raw
when hardcore was going after him, when the Hardcore division
(14:05):
was going after him. So I think something like that
would be fun, and then mix it in with like
what you're saying, with the art truth behind the scenes,
because we love when Dan Housen pops up behind the scenes.
Who doesn't. He's hilarious, he brings he carries a jar
of teeth. So why wouldn't you want somebody like that
(14:25):
asking PEPSI, man, what's he doing backstage and not out
at the ring. I think it would be amazing. I
want to see it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would like to see it as well. I'm not
gonna lie. I think it'd be he'd fit in perfectly
and something I was thinking about why you guys are
talking like, no, he doesn't have to get ragged alled
around or anything like that. But also like a character
like Dan Housen, like we can all agree that wins
and losses truly don't matter with a character like that, right,
it doesn't matter, Like you're just gonna see what you
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just care about, what crazy thing he's gonna do next?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Exactly and specific imagine Booker T reacting to Dan House.
He just to me, he's going to give that element
to Dan Housen that Dan Housen needs from a commentary. Yeah,
you know, And it's gonna be fantastic if it happens.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I can imagine Booker T on commentary is saying, what
the hell? Who is this sick freak? In a way,
hopefully he can exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think it's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know. I think it'd be interesting because when you
think about the way that Booker T handled gold Dust
back in the day, it could be similar to how
he would handle Dan Housen on commentary.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I would love it because him and gold Dust together
was fain right, It was so good. It made people
Booker T fans because of the interaction with him and
gold Dust, you ended up cheering for him and gold
Dust together.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I love the idea of Dan
Housen being in the mix for sure. I would not
be against that in any way, shape or form. I think,
like you guys said, the Crash Holly, the ur truth
element of just a guy that could pop up and
just just make you laugh and make you remember. Like
I think that we get caught up in like oh,
(16:24):
five star matches or oh who has the most titles,
who has the longest title runs, that we forget. There's
some talents that are just special that just make you remember,
you know, that make you just have those moments. And
I think that you know, yeah, you might not be
a fourteen time world heavyweight champion, but guys like our Truth,
like Santino Morella, like Crash Holly, names like that, damn it,
(16:48):
you remember it in forever and it don't matter. So like,
I think that Dan Housen could be that next generational
type like funny, entertaining part of wrestling, and it'd be
a very good lane firm where I think him and
WW could make a lot of money. But man, speaking
of WWE. We just had SmackDown go down. As we
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all know, A lot of us should know that it
was pre taped because of the fourth of July. It
was a pretty good addition. They went down to two hours.
I'm gonna leave that to Grun to give you all
that info. But Grun, some of your overaw highlights and
thoughts on this past Friday night SmackDown.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It needed better booking because every match on the card
was some type of tag team match. Yep, that was
way too much tag team wrestling.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It was one of beefabs worst matches in recent memory,
which is not good because I am a fan of Beefab.
She has won me over or with her fundamentals in
the in the ring and her personality.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Overall, this SmackDown felt like it was more for it
was a setup SmackDown. It was for setting up Evolution
Saturday Nights made an event and an inevitably SummerSlam. So
it unfortunately it was a missible SmackDown in my.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Opinion, what cron.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And it's not for the reasons you say, because you
want three hours of smack.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
And I I I stand firmly on the idea that
this had nothing to do with w This was a
decision made by the USA Network where Resident Evil or
no sorry now Resident Evil, Resident Alien, the show that
(18:53):
goes on Aftrosspann has been going on after Smackin for
a while now, has been on at the eleven o'clock
UH time slot for a while now.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't think they want one at eleven o'clock anymore.
I think they wanted it at ten because SmackDown they
won't move it to seven o'clock, so they'll say, you
can keep the eight o'clock slot, but you end at ten.
I think that's I think that's what happened. Like it's
the only thing that makes sense, because we why would
they want to cut back on an hour. I don't
(19:22):
think they would have cut back on an hour of
content unless since they were told to, and the only
people that really could have put forced this is USA Network.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That makes sense. I gotta say, I don't. I don't.
I don't like the two hour I don't. I think
that they were riding heavy with three hours. He was
able to tell more stories and now you know things
are gonna get cut off now you know we didn't
have John Seen on this show. I don't I think
he missed this one, if I remember correctly. I do
(19:56):
find it to be interesting that in the show that
was very much like you said, missible passable, way too many,
way too many tag matches. As somebody who's a fan
of tag team wrestling, that was way too much. That
was way too much. Uh, there's you know there, Like
you said, they're doing some building. But one thing that
stuck out to me is I do like the fact
(20:18):
that the third version of fourth version, whatever it is,
of the Bloodline ended up standing tall at the end
of the show and the United States title was featured prominently.
I think that is a good sign for the US title,
for Solo being the champion. We know he's got the
title now after I think I feel like we've talked
about Solo in such a strange light for like almost
(20:41):
the last two years. First you love them, then you don't,
then you do, then you see the potential, then it's
not there. There's been a lot of conversation as far
as US in former in your house guest Solo Socoa.
I guess I want to go with voice voice as
an advocate a guy who likes mid card titles. What
do you think about the decision too. In the show
with the US Championship Stable Faction whatever stand in.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Tall there isn't and what we've seen was something that
was incredible. It's the United States title meaning something at
the end of a show, and for it to be
on Solo. Wow, What a strange long road we've been
(21:29):
with Solo. Where we were talking, I remember it started
a heated discussion about Solo back in the day. Pe
was in that discussion and he kept saying, you guys
are missing everything about Solo, and it's time to admit.
Pee was right, we were missing everything. But was Solo
(21:51):
giving us anything for us to miss? Maybe Superhero Paragon
out there was able to see it. He was the
Professor X in this whole scenario, and I agree. I'm
on his train right now. I'm with him because Solo
is becoming interesting. Solo is doing exactly what I've talked
(22:13):
about nauseating times. Is the five minutes. And I know
it infuriates some of you fans when we discuss this,
but every time you have that five minutes, whatever it
may be, you need to set yourself apart from the pack.
Solo has been doing this for interviews, He's been doing
(22:35):
this for backstage promos. He's been doing this for in
ring work there, Solo's not stopping. He's he seems to
be a Dominic mysterio note taker. Because Dominic figured it out,
he knows how to capitalize on being one of the
greatest heels walking today. Solo is he's figuring it out.
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And the group that he's bringing up you have the
addition of Tree. This is going to be fantastic that
I ain't ever going to call him whatever they want
to call him. He is Tree, that is what he is.
And the dude is just a phenom. And I cannot
wait to see what the leadership of Solo looks like
(23:20):
with him, because remember he kind of took away the
bloodline and didn't he call him the family something, so
the Family Tree. So therefore Solo's already separating this group
from the entire pack of the Bloodline and doing his
own thing. It wouldn't surprise me in months after SummerSlam
(23:44):
we start seeing a lot of the Family Tree merge
out there. Because this is exciting. I'm I'm really hopeful
in what Solos bring to the table nowadays.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I feel the same way. I also, while you're talking,
I'm thinking about like how the Bloodline is kind of
it's kind of following the Judgment Day formula as far
as like every time we think the Judgment Day was
gonna end, it metamorphosed into something else. And now look
what the what the bloodline is doing. It's metamorphosing into
something else. And I think that maybe that's the future.
(24:20):
How we present factions and how to keep them fresh
is to just do this every now and again, because
I do think that factions still should have a prominent
place in wrestling, and I think that factions should you know,
have long standing.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Do.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I think some need to end, and there's a time
and a place for it, for sure, But I think
factions still have a firm, firm place in ww Do
I think that the chip H formula a few years
ago started out with maybe too many factions, Yeah, for sure,
But I think we're kind of shedding that skin a
little bit and we're kind of keeping the factions that
(24:56):
are relevant and getting you know, in downsizing or giving
less time to ones that aren't relevant. So I think
it's an interesting place to be, for sure. I thought
that them standing tall was interesting, But I want to
get some of your thoughts run as far as the
opening here, Drew McIntyre, he returns and interrupts Cody Rhodes
(25:18):
and Orton. He was kind of poking the bear there,
trying to create dissension between Cody, create dissension between him
and and Randy. What are your thoughts on the return
of Drew McIntyre, grin where you at right now?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I am very pleased and happy to see the return
of Drew McIntyre. This is definitely making it feel like
it's a mid card sort of feel right now. However, Drew,
at the same time, you can, as you said, and
as he said on social media, he's a shit stir.
(25:57):
He is going to or the pot and try and
maneuver himself into a position where he gets a world
title opportunity. And I love that for Drew. Drew has
been one of the best, has truly been his best
self since he was fired from WWE and he came back.
(26:18):
This is he's just getting better and better. I cannot
wait to see what he does. This feels like it's
heading for a Drew McIntire Randy Yorton match at SummerSlam,
which I'm definitely gonna be a fan of. If we
get that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I think that those two can are confirmed to
now be going at it at Saturday night main event.
That's right, Yeah, I think there at Saturday Night. Yeah yeah,
I think that's when they're gonna do it. Well, we'll
talk more about that on the on the next segment
when we do. That's true, that might be true. That's ridiculous,
But I like the fact that Drew McIntyre's back. I'm
(26:54):
never mad when Drew McIntire's on my screen, to be honest.
But the issue with it is is where's this go
for Where's it gonna go from here? After this? After
this match, If he takes a loss to Randy Orton,
then it's like, Okay, you're back and you're lost again,
(27:15):
you know, So why should we care? If Randy Orton
wins or Randy Orton loses, then it's like okay, that
kind unless there's some shenanigans or something like that. It
kind of hurts because Randy Orton is in the midst
of trying to plead his case to to try to
you know, maybe slide into the main event to SummerSlam,
(27:37):
you know, so he's trying to pick up some wins,
he's trying to keep it rind because you can hear that,
you know, he's trying to tell Cody this, and that
he's trying to tell Cody like, hey, you better make
it count. You better make sure that since you know,
took me out and I spared you, that you don't
that you you know, don't spare Sena the way I
(27:57):
spared you. You know, I think that's Randy Orton a
little bit, that he knew he you know, hesitated, and
that he didn't punt. He didn't punt Cody when he
had the chance to. And that's the that's the story
here is that is is Randy gone soft, That's what
it seems like. But back to back to Drew real quick.
(28:18):
I just feel like, as much as I love to
see Drew, they gotta find the lane for this guy
because he's somebody who's I think he's I feel like
he's in the prime, maybe more on the other side
of his prime than than you know, than on the
front of it. But like, you gotta start putting this
guy in main event situations instead of putting him in
(28:39):
situations where you know he's coming. He's taken a loss
to maybe like a seeing punk or taking a loss
to a damien priest or something, and then he comes
back with his chest out and we're supposed to believe
that he's gonna win anything. So you know, I love
Drew McIntyre. I just think some of the presentation could
be better. Voice. I feel like you're in the same both.
(29:00):
Give me some of your thoughts on the return of
Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I don't want that. I don't really care about Drew McIntyre.
I don't He's proven time and time again that he
can only do a big match, and then he's gone
and they don't know what to do with him. This
whole I'm angry and I'm mad at you, and I'm
gonna hurt you in the most crippling way, and then
I'm gonna try to play mind games. It's boring. Pick
(29:31):
a new lane. Uh, if I can quote Kirby, your enthusiasm,
get a life you need. You really need to pivot.
And Drew McIntyre has become just the same old thing.
It's like w CW in The Big Show. It's like,
you know, uh, the giant I should say when they
(29:53):
had him. It's become redundant. I've seen this play before.
So what we're gonna get Randy Orton punt and Drew McIntyre,
or we're going to get Drew McIntyre derailing this really
good story built around Randy Orton, Like you said, House,
(30:15):
those are the only two options. And what why for what? What?
What does Drew bring to the television screen that demands
this attention fresh back?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I mean he came back from a loss. I mean,
I don't know, that's the thing. He came back from
a loss. And Damian Priest is I mean, I can't
speak too much on what Damian Priest is doing. It
looks like he's somewhere in between this Ron killings and
and Alistair Black situation, which if those two have a match,
that's great. But like, I don't think Damian Priese has
(30:53):
got any better from defeating Drew McIntyre. I don't think
he's in a better spot than he was in before.
So it's like how many how much longer? And I
understand you're frustrating with your frustration with Drew McIntyre for that,
I say, I think that's more. I honestly think that's
more the way they're writing for him, more than anything else.
He can only do what they're giving him. He goes
out there, and I think that he does a good
(31:14):
job with what he's given. But what they're writing for
him right now, they keep putting him in a situation
where he's going down a road. Then there's a dead
end right there. Then they're having the up let's pull
him back, all right, let's try taking him down this
other road. Oh, here's another dead end, like and it's
so the situation is so deadlocked at the top right
(31:37):
now with everything going on with John Cena, like he's
not going to enter that John Cena mix, and then
the story that they have set up for seth Rollins
and and Gunther and Goldberg, which can't wait for that
to be done, and you know Jay whoso where does
he play back into that? And La Knight's floating around
there somewhere. There's no room for Drew McIntyre there either.
(31:58):
So like Drew McIntyre, like ideally he should be at
the top, but because it's so jammed at the top
right now, they're like, we got no clue what to
do with this main event caliber talent, this six foot
five athletic, charismatic Scottish man. We have no clue what
to do with him, and then when you get to
(32:19):
that point, you're having some interesting questions that you have
to have with yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But after to me, it seems like after that big
Shamus fight that he had, they lost all momentum with him,
any ability to tell his story. And I do hear
exactly what you're saying, but I would just like to
rebuttal that with Carrie and Cross. Look what he's done.
(32:49):
He's demanded that they put him into something. He has
made himself a spectacle to be in a ring. So
now that the fans have built up all this love,
all the support for him, WWE's responding, was it the
match we wanted him to be in? Yes? I wanted
(33:10):
to see him face Sammy, But wasn't the result we wanted. No,
But that's it. He's in the discussion now. He made
himself relevant with exploding on interviews. I mean, the Lou
has a drop of him just saying my ass and
it's just a picture of Carry and Cross. It's one
(33:31):
of the most popular drops in Lou's channel. And that's
just a small Georgia based podcast, you know, But fans
who aren't even into wrestling are using it. That goes
to show me that Drew doesn't have that drive. He
has the drive of what do you have me for
(33:52):
this for this week's episode? Oh? Nothing? Okay, cool, I'll
go sit by the pool Carrie, and Cross goes, oh
you have nothing for me this week? Okay, I wonder
if you'll have something for me next week. And then
he goes on a campaign to make sure the fans
are demanding he's involved in next week, and then he
(34:13):
gets it and it's fresh, it's new, it's just hit
for us. But when I see somebody of Drew McIntyre's
ability not doing that, that makes me wonder, what are
you doing? What are you doing? You're just farva right now?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It makes me think with somebody because I see the
cross and I see the cross in McIntire comparison. I
do also I think they're in very very different spots
in their career. For sure. You talk about somebody like
Drew McIntyre who's been to the top, he's held the
title and he's had those opportunities, and I'll be hon
(35:00):
is somebody who's a big Drew McIntyre fan. And remember
the feud that he had with Ceing Punk the way
he carried the company through the pandemic, all the awesome
things that he's done. I think it's fair to say
maybe he's taking his foot off the gas a little bit.
But then you think about somebody like Carrying Cross who's
just fighting and you know, clawing and scratching for every
(35:23):
little camera opportunity, every match, every chance to be on
a pl e, every chance to have a backstage scenario
where he has the opportunity to get in. Somebody said,
I just think that they're in two very different spots
of their career. I think Carrying Cross deserves to be
in that spotlight because if you know Carrying Cross the
way a lot of US fans know Carrying Cross, you
(35:45):
know who he was, Killer Cross in MLW, you know
who he was as a former NXT World Heavyweight Champion.
They didn't bring this man back and re sign him
and then put have him putting you know, you know,
one of those sand times in front of Roman Reigns
upon his return for no reason. They got to have
something for this guy to where they think he's so
(36:08):
I could definitely one hundred percent see the Carrying Cross
and Drew McIntyre commentary, because you have Carrying Cross, who
was once considered, you know, to be possibly a chosen
one to him now having to just try to get
whatever he can get. You know. I don't know if
Carrying Cross is considered maybe going away for a while,
(36:29):
letting the contract expire and and maybe try that route again.
He already tried it once, so I don't know why
he'd want to go back to it again. But I
think that WW is gonna try to work him in
there some kind of way. They got to see what's
going on, and you can't hold somebody like that down
for long. As far as Drew McIntyre, I just think
(36:50):
that they don't know what to do with him right now. Honestly,
more than anything else, I think they don't know what
to do with him right now, and it's a It's
an interesting lane, but we gotta move on continue here
because we're talking interesting lanes for talent. We had a
match part of the fifteen hundred tag team matches that
went down on SmackDown. There was a triple threat women's
(37:14):
tag team match between the Secret Hervist b fab and
met Chin and Alexa Bliss in Charlotte Flair Now with
the story that they're telling when I look at the
structure of this here and you just see the writings
on the wall, you see what's going on. They're not
giving Charlotte an Alexa this camera time to try to
(37:35):
develop this storyline between the two, just for them to
go into this match and lose. Now, for me, I
think that there's a much better competitive drive for something
like this if you put in the secret hervist because honestly,
I thought Albafire and Piper Niven were cooking as a
tag team. I'm a fan of tag teams who match
(37:58):
they're part of the same stable's legitimate women's tag team
that feels like they should be in that spot. Now.
I'm somebody who's talked about Charlotte Flair many a times
where I'm just like, I'm not interested in what she's doing.
She only has one lane, one direction. We're tired of it.
Every time she comes back, she jumps, the line goes
right for the women's world title. Has no character development,
(38:21):
no story development, anything like that. I've also been critical
of Alexa Bliss. If you guys have been listening to
this podcast, that she hasn't shown up on TV. Nobody
cares about what she's doing. She's a grown woman playing
with the doll. Now they're doing something interesting with these two.
To give them a lane, give them a path, and
(38:42):
for me, if they're gonna have them rolling out there
on TV. The Charlotte Flair thing is tired with her
going for the title. There's also been you know, podcast
and excerpts and things out there of her saying she
wants to try to change the narrative on herself. She
wants to try to change that narrative on her that
she only has one uh, she only has one line,
(39:04):
that she's hated, that she's supposed to be this uh,
pampered and and you know, special this and that queen.
And you know, I got a lot of thoughts on that,
but I gotta get some of the grun's thoughts here.
Where are you at with the triple threat match? Let's
talk about the development of what they're trying to do
with the Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So dude, all right, look, so it's no secret I
am a big Alexa Bliss fan. I was not a
fan of Charlotte and Alexa winning. Now you have convinced
me that, okay, all this is for storytelling purposes, to
eventually put the titles on them and then someone else
(39:46):
to beat them, possibly soul rukn Zaria because I because
they I think them as a tag team, you could
in theory bring them up, all right, She maybe even
not bring them up, but force Alexa List and Charlotte
Fair to defend the tack ting titles in NXT, creating
an opportunity for sol Ruka and Zaria to still be
(40:06):
an NXC, still be on NXC roster, but give them
the tag team titles.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
And be able to make SmackDown appearances.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Exactly, So, while they're still not technically on the main roster,
they're being given opportunities they're giving They're they're showing the
main roster fans exactly what are Zaria and sol Ruka
have to offer, introducing the fans to the next generation
of women's wrestling. That being said, I would not have
(40:40):
been met if the Secret Harvists or if Meechin and
Beefab had won this match.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
My only issue with the BFAB thing is I just
don't think she's ready for title opportunities yet. Me Chian is,
but Bfab not there yet.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, we we definitely saw that b fab. While she
definitely has her fundamentals down, she needs a little bit
more work unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
And I'm a fan, Like you said, I think you
said it before the show. You're a fan of her.
I'm a fan of her when she when she was
part of I think it was maybe last year when
they really started letting her wrestle and she was in
like the triple Threat matches to qualify for the Queen
of the Ring, and she turned a lot of heads.
She really did. She turned a lot of heads. But yeah,
I think there's still some work to be done there
(41:26):
for sure. I think it's interesting listen once again with
Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair. These are two women that
I think, especially especially Charlotte, but also I think Alexa
is in that conversation too. Are two women that need
this ego check. They need to be trickled down the card.
(41:48):
You guys aren't in the spot where you guys are
the main event anymore. So if you want to get
TV time, you're gonna have to get more relegated roles.
You know who did it, Bianca Belair did it. You
know who's doing it now? Bailey and Becky Lynch they're
they're taking their spot in the mid card. So I
think that this is an interesting lane for Charlotte. She's
(42:09):
trickled back down the card a little bit. You know,
maybe that's a hit to her ego. But also, if
you are truly saying that you want to try to
change public perspective on yourself to have people maybe see
you in a more favorable light, and you have to
have TV time, in my opinion, this is the way
to do it. Humble her a little bit. I think
that we'll see less and less of the the referee
(42:32):
come in and opening the rope former. I think that
needs to end if you're gonna change that narrative. I
like the padding on the head thing as far as like, oh,
you know, maybe I kind of had that coming. I
feel like, in my mind, the story is that Charlotte
Flair is having to be humbled a little bit. But
I'm gonna do it over to my man voice. Where
you at with the women's tag team division as a whole,
(42:55):
specifically Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Uh. I like the women's tag team division. I think
it's it's up and coming, especially with what we see
in coming out of n XT. I really want to
see soul Ruka up on the main roster. It. Yeah,
if it's with a tag team, I'm I'm happy with that.
(43:21):
If it's solo, I'm happy with that. I think she's
got it. She understands the assignment and she she fulfills
every spot they need. I agree with you this. This
needs to happen for both women, Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss.
(43:42):
I It's no secret I am no fan of either
one of these women. I'm very critical. I was a
huge fan of Charlotte, but I started noticing the let's
just call them rookie mistakes that she does.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
She gets frazzled by the crowd way too easily in
her in her tenure, she should be unmovable. Her her
father was her father. You had to he had to
have heart attacks and things like that to be drug
out of a ring. Rick Flair he didn't let a
crowd move him. He moved the crowd. And I'm not
(44:24):
saying that you got to be the Rick Flair and everything,
but I will say, when you come out and like
houses talking, you come out in this robe gimmick, you
come out your father did that just so you know
you come out in little Nature's holding the ropes open
for you. You know, that's that's the respect to the Flair name.
(44:49):
That's what a referee did back in the day for
a wrestler of the caliber of Rick Flair. So all
of those things need to go because now we need
to see what you can do with the Flare name.
Flair is not there anymore. He's shitting himself in a
bar and not paying tab. So that's what your dad
(45:11):
is doing right now. The man who used to you know,
fly on jets profile do all the shit, that's what
he does now. So now it's your turn. Now it's
your turn to become the Flair that we know the
name can be, and it's your turn to turn it
into your own way, because there's there's never going to
(45:31):
be another your father. There's never going to be another Nature.
There's never going to be anything to that caliber. So
let's talk about what Ashley can do with the name.
Let's talk about what Charlotte can do with it. And
right now you're you're in a perfect position to do
(45:51):
exactly what you need to do. I don't know the
I don't understand the attraction with Alexa Bliss. She bores
fuck out of me. She to me, she is just
a regular. I want to be Harley Quinn. But I
don't understand comix because there's reading and it really annoys me.
Because if you knew anything about Harley Quinn, Harley Quinn
(46:14):
was submissive to the joker. She did anything that man
told her to do because she believed in what he
was about, much like what you should have been putting
forth in the hole when you were with the Wyatts.
I understand some people think she did. I don't. I
(46:35):
think you could have played that character way better into
which it would have had longevity into now where I
would have cared about you, because now I don't care
about you because you are walking around with a doll
and talking to it. There's ways to do that. Al
Snow he did it like for a long time. Like
if Al Snow today shows up with a mannequin head,
(46:58):
he can go right into that character. I'm not buying it.
I bought the head, I bought head. I even bought Pepe.
Oh yeah, I don't buy this.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
What about MAPI?
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I bought MAPI I bought I bought Perry Saturn's character
altogether because I thought the dude was nuts and I
could have swore nuts. He knocked some screws loose. So
Mapy was believable.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. But as far as
going back real quick to Alexa Bliss and I'll jump
into that real quick before I say our man, the
louis in the chat, he says, Eye, why a happy
house party? Mom? Man, always good to see you. Hop
In the chat he says, what does everybody want? Hey?
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yes, man, we know does everybody need Hey, principle, come on, man,
come on, blax PC Principal.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Col We're gonna we're staying on track here. We're gonna
continue to but back to back to Alexa Bliss. Man
once again, I have to say I was there in
uh in Lucas Oil when she returned to the Royal Rumble.
I'm I'm gonna always say this, she had one of
the biggest pop, if not the biggest pop of the night,
(48:24):
and everything that has happened since then has been so
so mid. I mean, it's below mid. Honestly, it's below mid.
So that's the I'm definitely gonna let you go grun
most definitely, but it's been below mid she was off
TV for a while, and then you know, then when
she came back, they really didn't have anything for her.
(48:46):
And now they're trying to form this partnership with Charlotte Flair.
I honestly feel like and then I'm gonna give it
to Grun. I honestly feel like these two women need
each other right now because there are two women that
were kind of just hanging on by a thread of
relevancy and now they can lean on each other. Make
if you're gonna be a tag team, do it. Go
(49:07):
for it. You guys are two former women's champions. You know,
alexas a former women's tag team champion multiple times with
Nikki Cross. They could be the women's version of Rated
Rkoh if this is done right. But you have to
own it exactly. Yowie Wowie, Grun, you had some thoughts
what you're thinking, bro?
Speaker 4 (49:27):
I did?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I mean, you were saying everything they've been doing is bid,
And yeah, I'm like, I'm not in love with everything
that the Alexa Bliss and Charlotte have been doing since WrestleMania.
But there is a very unfortunate fact that we need
to acknowledge about the tag team match they were in
Friday Night and that the only pop came when Alexa
(49:49):
Bliss was tagged into the match. Wow, the match was dead, silent.
The crowd was not reacting.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
That crowd sucked.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with voice, but not very good crowd.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Like there's no way, like this match is this bad
that people aren't reacting like I it's like, I think,
you know what, that's probably what we saw. That's probably
we probably saw be Fab meetching and Secret Harvests doing
the best they can. But the crowd was dead. They
did not want anybody but Alexa Bliss, and I.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Like the finish of the match. I didn't even hate
the finish of the match with the moon salt and
the head pad, like, oh, I'm better than you because
the story I do believe, the story that they're telling
is that Alexa is going to help Charlotte humble herself
and they can you know, I see the story here,
I see it. So I like the ending. The crowd
was just I mean, it was not good. I mean
(50:49):
I thought they tried their best. I really liked the
Secret Hervist. We were talking about it in the discord
about how much we're huge fans of the Secret Hervist.
I love it. It's a gimmick. They've really come together.
They've really figured out how to use Piper Niven at
Alba Fire to their strengths, especially in ring. I don't
think that. I don't think that match deserved pins, you know,
(51:11):
being able to hear a pin drop.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I don't think that whole SmackDown deserved to hear pins drop.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Lou is that hold on? Lou was saying. The crowd
also had a raw and SmackDown in the same night.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh he's Oh my god, he's here, was yes, because
I remember it was pre taped.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I didn't know that it was.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Pre Do you know how much I would come if
I bought a ticket and I realized I was going
to get to see a raw and the SmackDown? Yes,
I would be doing lines of cocaine off the boner's
next to me, just to stay up and be jacked
for this because.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
We're not but we're not the type to go to
a show and sit on our hands either.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, no, we're not.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, God damn it. I wish I wish our shows
were our weekly shows were over in uh Europe. Yeah,
just give us some europe weekly shows, so there's some energy,
especially for shows like this this. If you go back
and rewatch this week's SmackDown, it was an engaging, fun
show for the stories being told and what we're seeing,
(52:16):
like houses pointing out there is a story to be
told between Charlotte and Bliss, and there's stories being told
by Naomi and Jade. This was a good SmackDown. The
very end was energy filled and a shot of adrenaline
that SmackDown needed and it was through the United States title.
(52:38):
So I don't know what I understand what Lou was saying,
and that makes a lot of sense. But you're a
fucking wrestling fan. Enjoy what you're seeing.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I agree with you. And you know we got Lou
in the chat. He's saying, Dude, I would love to
go to that many shows in a row, but normal
fans can't keep up. That's exactly what Voice is saying. Exactly.
We're not the type of fans to go to a
show and just sit on our hands, like if I'm there,
I am there, bro Like like ask Voice. We watch
ECW every single week and I sit up there and
(53:13):
watch that show. And yes, it is the first time
I've seen it, but I'm not like sitting them here, like, oh,
I can't believe that happened with my phone in my
other hand, and so I'm in there. I'm locked in.
When I watch wrestling, I watch wrestling, bro, That's how
I am.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
We popped hard last week for a match that had
no violence outside of just pure wrestling. It was a
three way dance. It was fantastically done, and we loved it.
We loved every moment of that match.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, yeah, go check out our ECW watch alongs. They're great.
We'll definitely talk more about that at the end of
the show, but yeah, when we watch wrestling, we enjoy wrestling,
so like, I just can't imagine, you know, them doing
a good job. Even with the tag team you know,
the SmackDown Tag Team division, there's still going you know,
going along with that. That's always gonna be something to
(54:03):
talk about.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
So we would I mean, let me let me ask
real quick. Sorry to interrupt, but wouldn't it be beneficial
to WWE if they were they they know they're going
to do this to the fans, So they're going to
have your Monday Night raw. After that, they're going to
turn it around and they're gonna set you through SmackDown,
(54:26):
So right there, that's near five hours worth of wrestling.
Wouldn't it be smart of WWE too, I don't know,
peruse the internet and find shows like this and then
I don't know, maybe give them a package to where
they could go to these types of shows and be
(54:46):
that energetic fan base that you need for this type
of showing. So you don't have to pipe in things.
You don't have to do this, You don't have to
worry is the crowd getting too worn out because you
have the people who were going to there loving every
moment of it, and then after that five hours, guess
what they're going to do. Within twenty four hours, every
(55:08):
one of us nerds are gonna get onto our computers
in our studios and we're gonna talk about what we
just seen. If you didn't drive home and do it that.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Night, which a lot of a lot of peeps do.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Exactly, why not do that? Why it's not that much
money you could You could have cheap tickets for those
shows and then just flood those cheap tickets with fans
like us, and.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
It will make for better crowds, better visuals, better reactions
to things.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
That are happening, You're gonna sell more merch.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Exactly, You're gonna sell more merch. And like I'm a
firm believer visuals are important and wrestling, Like, let me
just say, would the Dove Ziggler cash in for Alberta
Del Rio be as great if the crowd didn't lose
their shit when when his music played.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Nope, Nope, not at all.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Exactly, that moment was a moment because the crowd made
that a moment, and moments that they intend to make
moments were not reacting to. You know, That's some of
the things. I mean. The tag team division, like I said,
this SmackDown tag team vision is going hot, but you know,
when you have the crowd sitting on their hands and whatnot,
(56:25):
And we got to talk about this because I know
there's a lot of thoughts on this and I'm just
gonna go ahead and throw and lobby this one right
to voice and get his thoughts. And that's the fact
that you had Tiffany Stratton able to choose her challenger
at ww Evolution two, and she chose Tris Stratus. Now
we know the last time we saw Trish Stratus, that
(56:48):
was an elimination Chamber. This was in either the February
March timeframe that was she didn't have to go nowhere,
really was there in Canada. And then I don't really
think we've seen her on TV the sense, but hann
picked opponent for Tiffany Stratton was Tris Strattus
Ah yeah, in your house with Oconn and your conn
of your house? How do your world in your house?
House hypocacies had in the clouds, get ready to knock
on the loud wrestling in front of the crowds. Paragun's
holding it down. Anybody can anybody can get it, guys,
just a standing known as decisions. He is the voice.
(00:21):
There is no choice. Where's the voice in your house?
Making wrestling noise drooping fact, it's like cruise weight action
in your house is a perfect distraction. Do you see
your ears? When you intraction can get this work with
some wrestling acts?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
What is up?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Guys? What is cracking? Is the common And I am
in your house and you guys already know the vibes
anytime we said on through, we're here to give you
that work when it comes with professional wrestling business. And guys,
it is Sunday, and uh, guys, it is another glorious Sunday. Here.
I can see outside of our window. It's a sunny day.
(00:55):
It's a wonderful day. We just came off of SmackDown,
and we just came off the fourth of July. I
had a good time chilling with my family, cooking out
and then just chilled out. After that, I ate so much, y'all.
I ate so much, y'all had to just chill out.
I was chilling out in the bed. Then I turned
smack Down on enjoyed a good watch is smack Down.
(01:16):
Usually I have work the next day, but like I
said on the previous episode, I'm on vacation this week,
so I was just in my vibe, doing my thing,
just kicking it. It was a great, great night. And man,
what happened the next day is that we had a
lot of back and forth and talk in our discord
over SmackDown. You guys need to check it out. It
(01:38):
was very active. Oh yeah, it was very active. You
guys need to check out our discord everything that goes
down in there. And man, of course I'm talking SmackDown
or we're gonna dig deep into it. But I can't
talk SmackDown without my man, who does his thing over
on SmackDown. He hangs out in this room. He reviewed
(02:00):
in previews smack Down. He's the blue white villain himself,
the Grundmeister. What's up?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yo? What is up? SmackDown was very interesting. We'll definitely
get into that. But dude, we got Evolution next weekend,
Saturday Nights Meeting event MANX, Bash of the Beach next week,
Clash in Paris coming up, and SummerSlam. This is gonna
be busy time for WWE.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, oh man, we got He's in the chat right now.
He's saying my ribs was looking good. Hey man, you
should come on over. Hey, well, I will grill out again, bro.
I enjoyed it. I had a great time. And yeah,
I would love to feed the homies. We gotta have
an IYH grill out some point. That would be amazing.
(02:49):
I'll be on the grill and we could talk all
things wrestling. That would be amazing. But you know, we
have a lot of things. You guys hearing those drops
in the background, you guys are seeing the new background,
new vibe. That's because of our guy who does his
thing on Mondays, then he gets extreme on Thursday's producer
of the show. That's the voice Josh Joseph.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What is up?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Man?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
That's very true, and you can see those rumors in
our discord that I set off about Grun. Grun is
usually my favorite target because well, secret time, I think
we were brothers. I really do. I think I'm the
older brother. I you know, we have that friend brotherly relationship.
So come join us on Discord. It's a fun time.
(03:36):
But I'm still glad to be here with you household,
and I cannot wait to talk about wrestling. So let's
get into it, guys.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, sir, we're gonna get into it. Like my man
Grunn was saying, we have a heavy, heavy weekend that
is coming up for wrestling. We just had the fourth
of July this past week. Then after that, I mean,
everybody's just kind of chilling. No big time wrestling shows
or anything like that. But you know, in your house,
(04:04):
we keep on going. We keep giving you that work,
and we're gonna look ahead to Evolution. We're gonna look
ahead to Saturday night's main event and add in anything
that we can add in. But before we do that,
we got to talk something smack down. But you know
we were on we were there in the green room
backstage before you know. We are show prep that we
(04:27):
usually do every single show that makes this show what
it is and and and that's you know, one of
the hottest podcasts in the Midwest, you know, for the
last six years because we do things like show Prep
and come together, and we started talking about some of
these possible signings for WWE, and it was something that
(04:48):
Voice had brought up. There was a few names, and
I've seen them circling circulating around Facebook, circulating around X,
circulating around you know, a little bit of Instagram, but
mainly X. When I go for big, like when I
go for deep cut rumors, that's where I normally go
as X. And some names came up that are that
have some ww interest, and I wanted to get some
(05:09):
of you guys out there in the household, and of
course my guys over here on the panel some thoughts
about these. So I'm gonna name these names and then
I'm gonna give it over to, you know, whoever. I
decided to give it up to, probably Voice. Start with Voice.
Names that are rumored to be coming over to WWE,
or at least have drawn interest from WWE or share
(05:32):
you know, or it's mutual interests. Britt Baker, the Private
Party tag team if you guys aren't familiar, and Dan Housen.
And from the from the three acts that I just said,
Dan Housen's name seems to be the most hottest when
(05:54):
it comes to a possibility of of what's of possibly
coming to the company. I know this is something we
talked about before we actually went on the air. Voice,
what are some of your thoughts about these possible signings.
I know you have a lot of interest in one
of them in particular where you at.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Uh, yeah, I mean, you know, Cat's not out of
the bag. Everybody knows that. I'm a huge Dan Housen fan,
and I think he would be a great piece in
the puzzle of WWE. But I also think everybody named
in there Britt Baker love Britt Baker could not Like.
(06:33):
I know, she has her own profession, she does her
own thing outside of wrestling, but I still think she's
a draw. I still think that name has some sizzle
to it. And tell me, tell me you wouldn't want
to see a Charlotte Flair Britt Breaker match.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, give it to me.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I want to see it. I want and I don't
want to see Charlotte Flair matches, but I want to
see that one, yeah, because I know I know what
Britt Baker can bring to a ring, and I think
right there, that's the type of talent Charlotte needs to
be aligning herself with it's somebody who's going to have
(07:14):
a straight up match with you. We're going to have
those moments where we applaud because of the chain wrestling
of the Matt wrestling. It's going to be a fun
time and I think she will be able to bring
something out of Charlotte that is missing right now. Private Party,
tell me that wouldn't be a fun fucking tag team
(07:35):
in this tag team division. It would be a shot
of adrenaline to the raw tag team. I know We've
talked about it. Even a lajahlanas said it. The raw
tag team is on fucking life support right now.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Dude, dude, dude.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We need to fix it. We need to make it something,
and I believe this tag team could do that. It
would be a fun thing. And tell me, tell me
you wouldn't want to see him up against pretty deadly
something something just to start it off that little taste,
and then you you come into Fantasma. Why wouldn't we
(08:14):
want to see that? Why wouldn't we want to see
I mean, look, I'm watching right now the tag match
with Jacob Flatu, Jim and going again Solo and Kyle.
This this is what I want to see now I
want to see this because now I'm interested in is
(08:35):
this side of the family gonna accept Jacob, because when
he first was talking about, they wanted nothing to do.
You're supposed to stay away from him, So for them
to even be in the talks, and honestly, Dan Hausen's
the one I've heard the most about and that I've
seen others that are associated with w w EE talk about,
(08:58):
So for them to be talking about it, for it
to be a thing, It's either a big swerve or
We're soon to have this very very nice but very
evil man in our backstages. And I'm all for it.
I want it. I want to see this. I want
to see all three of these people, or all three
(09:20):
of these characters, including the tag team, into one central
area that we get to see because all of these
everybody being talked about has been dropped by adew in
some way or another.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, and they deserve a chance to be a
really good act and I do I do believe that
they will. We're gonna get some grun starts. But before
we do that, I'm gonna go to the chat real
quick because i just want to make sure we're acknowledging
the chat, they're getting a hot in there. We got
og Tony saying WWE seems rushed to me right now,
I've heard that. I absolutely agree with you, Og, I
(09:59):
think you making a lot of sense, and yeah, they
need to slow their role. We could definitely pick up
on that. As we talk SmackDown. We got Gary Emmitt
in there. He says, if w W doesn't pick up
on guys like Dex Royal, Calvin Tankman, Eric Dillinger, Dion
Pitt Freeman, Billy Starks. Oh man, what a list here?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What in the Iron Demon, Shane Mercer, they got blinders on.
I absolutely agree with that everybody that you just named,
and that is just a bunch of heavy hitters and
they should be on that w w.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
E radar for sure, I hear you. But look, I'll
be happy if they signed Billy Starks before Bailey ends
her career.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh yeah, you want to see Billy Starks in Bailey?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, I see that. For some reason, you want
getting here mixed up with Izzy Moreno.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, no it's not not the same, but it would
still be a banger of a match. Yeah, it would
still be a bag. But I would want to see
is moreno as well, get that Get that match for sure,
Get that match for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I want to see Julia Hart.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh my god, Yeah that'd be good. I like that. Yeah,
you got og Tony saying he thinks that private party
would be good. We absolutely agree, and he also goes
on to say that he thinks Baker is stuck in
ae W because of contract. I didn't hear about that,
but I do know there's some mutual interest.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I did hear about that, now, I did hear over
the weekend. I know it's through one of the sites
that we don't like to really bring up because they're
mostly clickbait. But I think Britt might be getting released
from her contract or has been released. There's there's talk
(11:45):
of her contract. I love how Tony's on the pulse
of everything going on right now. Yeah, you're on it,
so og Tony. If I heard something wrong, I'm not
gonna say that it's not a possibility because it was
through like Russell News or something like that. So hopefully
it's right. But I the outside of Dan, the Dan
(12:07):
Housen information, I could almost say is pretty pretty fucking legit.
Like the people talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It, I'm I feel real strong about the Dan Housen get.
I feel real strong about that, but I want to
get Gruns thoughts. Where are you at with all these
possible future signings to w W What where do you
think they'd fit in?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I I like them all as future signings. I think
Dan Housen, if if we were going to compare the
spot that he would be in, we it would essentially
be the Our Truth spot. Okay, And it's like, it's
not It's not I mean not in an insult because Our
Truth has done a lot of a lot of amazing
moments and a lot of entertaining spots in that and
(12:53):
that's in that a position. Dan Housen, I think does
have the ability to tell a story where he maneuvers.
I think you could actually tell a story where you
he maneuvers manipulates his way to become world champion. It's
it's not believable as because I get it. He's not
that big of a guy. What he He's influenced all
(13:15):
these people around him. He has his own faction that's
healish and babyface at the same time.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It's the mcfoley mankind getting the world title. Uh Grun.
I would like to say I want to see him
more in a in the house I know you're gonna
pop for this name a Crash Holly title, Okay, situation
where he is the underdog. You see him, but he
he comes out there like Dan Hausen does, and he
(13:42):
acts like he's bigger than life. Yeah, and then gives
you a really good match. I don't need him to
be tossed around like a rag now like Crash was.
But Crash also had a huge following of fans. He was.
He was very prominent in the first hour of Raw
when hardcore was going after him, when the Hardcore division
(14:05):
was going after him. So I think something like that
would be fun, and then mix it in with like
what you're saying, with the art truth behind the scenes,
because we love when Dan Housen pops up behind the scenes.
Who doesn't. He's hilarious, he brings he carries a jar
of teeth. So why wouldn't you want somebody like that
(14:25):
asking PEPSI, man, what's he doing backstage and not out
at the ring. I think it would be amazing. I
want to see it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would like to see it as well. I'm not
gonna lie. I think it'd be he'd fit in perfectly
and something I was thinking about why you guys are
talking like, no, he doesn't have to get ragged alled
around or anything like that. But also like a character
like Dan Housen, like we can all agree that wins
and losses truly don't matter with a character like that, right,
it doesn't matter, Like you're just gonna see what you
(14:54):
just care about, what crazy thing he's gonna do next?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Exactly and specific imagine Booker T reacting to Dan House.
He just to me, he's going to give that element
to Dan Housen that Dan Housen needs from a commentary. Yeah,
you know, And it's gonna be fantastic if it happens.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I can imagine Booker T on commentary is saying, what
the hell? Who is this sick freak? In a way,
hopefully he can exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think it's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know. I think it'd be interesting because when you
think about the way that Booker T handled gold Dust
back in the day, it could be similar to how
he would handle Dan Housen on commentary.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I would love it because him and gold Dust together
was fain right, It was so good. It made people
Booker T fans because of the interaction with him and
gold Dust, you ended up cheering for him and gold
Dust together.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I love the idea of Dan
Housen being in the mix for sure. I would not
be against that in any way, shape or form. I think,
like you guys said, the Crash Holly, the ur truth
element of just a guy that could pop up and
just just make you laugh and make you remember. Like
I think that we get caught up in like oh,
(16:24):
five star matches or oh who has the most titles,
who has the longest title runs, that we forget. There's
some talents that are just special that just make you remember,
you know, that make you just have those moments. And
I think that you know, yeah, you might not be
a fourteen time world heavyweight champion, but guys like our Truth,
like Santino Morella, like Crash Holly, names like that, damn it,
(16:48):
you remember it in forever and it don't matter. So like,
I think that Dan Housen could be that next generational
type like funny, entertaining part of wrestling, and it'd be
a very good lane firm where I think him and
WW could make a lot of money. But man, speaking
of WWE. We just had SmackDown go down. As we
(17:09):
all know, A lot of us should know that it
was pre taped because of the fourth of July. It
was a pretty good addition. They went down to two hours.
I'm gonna leave that to Grun to give you all
that info. But Grun, some of your overaw highlights and
thoughts on this past Friday night SmackDown.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It needed better booking because every match on the card
was some type of tag team match. Yep, that was
way too much tag team wrestling.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It was one of beefabs worst matches in recent memory,
which is not good because I am a fan of Beefab.
She has won me over or with her fundamentals in
the in the ring and her personality.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Overall, this SmackDown felt like it was more for it
was a setup SmackDown. It was for setting up Evolution
Saturday Nights made an event and an inevitably SummerSlam. So
it unfortunately it was a missible SmackDown in my.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Opinion, what cron.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And it's not for the reasons you say, because you
want three hours of smack.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
And I I I stand firmly on the idea that
this had nothing to do with w This was a
decision made by the USA Network where Resident Evil or
no sorry now Resident Evil, Resident Alien, the show that
(18:53):
goes on Aftrosspann has been going on after Smackin for
a while now, has been on at the eleven o'clock
UH time slot for a while now.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't think they want one at eleven o'clock anymore.
I think they wanted it at ten because SmackDown they
won't move it to seven o'clock, so they'll say, you
can keep the eight o'clock slot, but you end at ten.
I think that's I think that's what happened. Like it's
the only thing that makes sense, because we why would
they want to cut back on an hour. I don't
(19:22):
think they would have cut back on an hour of
content unless since they were told to, and the only
people that really could have put forced this is USA Network.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That makes sense. I gotta say, I don't. I don't.
I don't like the two hour I don't. I think
that they were riding heavy with three hours. He was
able to tell more stories and now you know things
are gonna get cut off now you know we didn't
have John Seen on this show. I don't I think
he missed this one, if I remember correctly. I do
(19:56):
find it to be interesting that in the show that
was very much like you said, missible passable, way too many,
way too many tag matches. As somebody who's a fan
of tag team wrestling, that was way too much. That
was way too much. Uh, there's you know there, Like
you said, they're doing some building. But one thing that
stuck out to me is I do like the fact
(20:18):
that the third version of fourth version, whatever it is,
of the Bloodline ended up standing tall at the end
of the show and the United States title was featured prominently.
I think that is a good sign for the US title,
for Solo being the champion. We know he's got the
title now after I think I feel like we've talked
about Solo in such a strange light for like almost
(20:41):
the last two years. First you love them, then you don't,
then you do, then you see the potential, then it's
not there. There's been a lot of conversation as far
as US in former in your house guest Solo Socoa.
I guess I want to go with voice voice as
an advocate a guy who likes mid card titles. What
do you think about the decision too. In the show
with the US Championship Stable Faction whatever stand in.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Tall there isn't and what we've seen was something that
was incredible. It's the United States title meaning something at
the end of a show, and for it to be
on Solo. Wow, What a strange long road we've been
(21:29):
with Solo. Where we were talking, I remember it started
a heated discussion about Solo back in the day. Pe
was in that discussion and he kept saying, you guys
are missing everything about Solo, and it's time to admit.
Pee was right, we were missing everything. But was Solo
(21:51):
giving us anything for us to miss? Maybe Superhero Paragon
out there was able to see it. He was the
Professor X in this whole scenario, and I agree. I'm
on his train right now. I'm with him because Solo
is becoming interesting. Solo is doing exactly what I've talked
(22:13):
about nauseating times. Is the five minutes. And I know
it infuriates some of you fans when we discuss this,
but every time you have that five minutes, whatever it
may be, you need to set yourself apart from the pack.
Solo has been doing this for interviews, He's been doing
(22:35):
this for backstage promos. He's been doing this for in
ring work there, Solo's not stopping. He's he seems to
be a Dominic mysterio note taker. Because Dominic figured it out,
he knows how to capitalize on being one of the
greatest heels walking today. Solo is he's figuring it out.
(23:00):
And the group that he's bringing up you have the
addition of Tree. This is going to be fantastic that
I ain't ever going to call him whatever they want
to call him. He is Tree, that is what he is.
And the dude is just a phenom. And I cannot
wait to see what the leadership of Solo looks like
(23:20):
with him, because remember he kind of took away the
bloodline and didn't he call him the family something, so
the Family Tree. So therefore Solo's already separating this group
from the entire pack of the Bloodline and doing his
own thing. It wouldn't surprise me in months after SummerSlam
(23:44):
we start seeing a lot of the Family Tree merge
out there. Because this is exciting. I'm I'm really hopeful
in what Solos bring to the table nowadays.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I feel the same way. I also, while you're talking,
I'm thinking about like how the Bloodline is kind of
it's kind of following the Judgment Day formula as far
as like every time we think the Judgment Day was
gonna end, it metamorphosed into something else. And now look
what the what the bloodline is doing. It's metamorphosing into
something else. And I think that maybe that's the future.
(24:20):
How we present factions and how to keep them fresh
is to just do this every now and again, because
I do think that factions still should have a prominent
place in wrestling, and I think that factions should you know,
have long standing.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Do.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I think some need to end, and there's a time
and a place for it, for sure, But I think
factions still have a firm, firm place in ww Do
I think that the chip H formula a few years
ago started out with maybe too many factions, Yeah, for sure,
But I think we're kind of shedding that skin a
little bit and we're kind of keeping the factions that
(24:56):
are relevant and getting you know, in downsizing or giving
less time to ones that aren't relevant. So I think
it's an interesting place to be, for sure. I thought
that them standing tall was interesting, But I want to
get some of your thoughts run as far as the
opening here, Drew McIntyre, he returns and interrupts Cody Rhodes
(25:18):
and Orton. He was kind of poking the bear there,
trying to create dissension between Cody, create dissension between him
and and Randy. What are your thoughts on the return
of Drew McIntyre, grin where you at right now?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I am very pleased and happy to see the return
of Drew McIntyre. This is definitely making it feel like
it's a mid card sort of feel right now. However, Drew,
at the same time, you can, as you said, and
as he said on social media, he's a shit stir.
(25:57):
He is going to or the pot and try and
maneuver himself into a position where he gets a world
title opportunity. And I love that for Drew. Drew has
been one of the best, has truly been his best
self since he was fired from WWE and he came back.
(26:18):
This is he's just getting better and better. I cannot
wait to see what he does. This feels like it's
heading for a Drew McIntire Randy Yorton match at SummerSlam,
which I'm definitely gonna be a fan of. If we
get that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I think that those two can are confirmed to
now be going at it at Saturday night main event.
That's right, Yeah, I think there at Saturday Night. Yeah yeah,
I think that's when they're gonna do it. Well, we'll
talk more about that on the on the next segment
when we do. That's true, that might be true. That's ridiculous,
But I like the fact that Drew McIntyre's back. I'm
(26:54):
never mad when Drew McIntire's on my screen, to be honest.
But the issue with it is is where's this go
for Where's it gonna go from here? After this? After
this match, If he takes a loss to Randy Orton,
then it's like, Okay, you're back and you're lost again,
(27:15):
you know, So why should we care? If Randy Orton
wins or Randy Orton loses, then it's like okay, that
kind unless there's some shenanigans or something like that. It
kind of hurts because Randy Orton is in the midst
of trying to plead his case to to try to
you know, maybe slide into the main event to SummerSlam,
(27:37):
you know, so he's trying to pick up some wins,
he's trying to keep it rind because you can hear that,
you know, he's trying to tell Cody this, and that
he's trying to tell Cody like, hey, you better make
it count. You better make sure that since you know,
took me out and I spared you, that you don't
that you you know, don't spare Sena the way I
(27:57):
spared you. You know, I think that's Randy Orton a
little bit, that he knew he you know, hesitated, and
that he didn't punt. He didn't punt Cody when he
had the chance to. And that's the that's the story
here is that is is Randy gone soft, That's what
it seems like. But back to back to Drew real quick.
(28:18):
I just feel like, as much as I love to
see Drew, they gotta find the lane for this guy
because he's somebody who's I think he's I feel like
he's in the prime, maybe more on the other side
of his prime than than you know, than on the
front of it. But like, you gotta start putting this
guy in main event situations instead of putting him in
(28:39):
situations where you know he's coming. He's taken a loss
to maybe like a seeing punk or taking a loss
to a damien priest or something, and then he comes
back with his chest out and we're supposed to believe
that he's gonna win anything. So you know, I love
Drew McIntyre. I just think some of the presentation could
be better. Voice. I feel like you're in the same both.
(29:00):
Give me some of your thoughts on the return of
Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I don't want that. I don't really care about Drew McIntyre.
I don't He's proven time and time again that he
can only do a big match, and then he's gone
and they don't know what to do with him. This
whole I'm angry and I'm mad at you, and I'm
gonna hurt you in the most crippling way, and then
I'm gonna try to play mind games. It's boring. Pick
(29:31):
a new lane. Uh, if I can quote Kirby, your enthusiasm,
get a life you need. You really need to pivot.
And Drew McIntyre has become just the same old thing.
It's like w CW in The Big Show. It's like,
you know, uh, the giant I should say when they
(29:53):
had him. It's become redundant. I've seen this play before.
So what we're gonna get Randy Orton punt and Drew McIntyre,
or we're going to get Drew McIntyre derailing this really
good story built around Randy Orton, Like you said, House,
(30:15):
those are the only two options. And what why for what? What?
What does Drew bring to the television screen that demands
this attention fresh back?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I mean he came back from a loss. I mean,
I don't know, that's the thing. He came back from
a loss. And Damian Priest is I mean, I can't
speak too much on what Damian Priest is doing. It
looks like he's somewhere in between this Ron killings and
and Alistair Black situation, which if those two have a match,
that's great. But like, I don't think Damian Priese has
(30:53):
got any better from defeating Drew McIntyre. I don't think
he's in a better spot than he was in before.
So it's like how many how much longer? And I
understand you're frustrating with your frustration with Drew McIntyre for that,
I say, I think that's more. I honestly think that's
more the way they're writing for him, more than anything else.
He can only do what they're giving him. He goes
out there, and I think that he does a good
(31:14):
job with what he's given. But what they're writing for
him right now, they keep putting him in a situation
where he's going down a road. Then there's a dead
end right there. Then they're having the up let's pull
him back, all right, let's try taking him down this
other road. Oh, here's another dead end, like and it's
so the situation is so deadlocked at the top right
(31:37):
now with everything going on with John Cena, like he's
not going to enter that John Cena mix, and then
the story that they have set up for seth Rollins
and and Gunther and Goldberg, which can't wait for that
to be done, and you know Jay whoso where does
he play back into that? And La Knight's floating around
there somewhere. There's no room for Drew McIntyre there either.
(31:58):
So like Drew McIntyre, like ideally he should be at
the top, but because it's so jammed at the top
right now, they're like, we got no clue what to
do with this main event caliber talent, this six foot
five athletic, charismatic Scottish man. We have no clue what
to do with him, and then when you get to
(32:19):
that point, you're having some interesting questions that you have
to have with yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But after to me, it seems like after that big
Shamus fight that he had, they lost all momentum with him,
any ability to tell his story. And I do hear
exactly what you're saying, but I would just like to
rebuttal that with Carrie and Cross. Look what he's done.
(32:49):
He's demanded that they put him into something. He has
made himself a spectacle to be in a ring. So
now that the fans have built up all this love,
all the support for him, WWE's responding, was it the
match we wanted him to be in? Yes? I wanted
(33:10):
to see him face Sammy, But wasn't the result we wanted. No,
But that's it. He's in the discussion now. He made
himself relevant with exploding on interviews. I mean, the Lou
has a drop of him just saying my ass and
it's just a picture of Carry and Cross. It's one
(33:31):
of the most popular drops in Lou's channel. And that's
just a small Georgia based podcast, you know, But fans
who aren't even into wrestling are using it. That goes
to show me that Drew doesn't have that drive. He
has the drive of what do you have me for
(33:52):
this for this week's episode? Oh? Nothing? Okay, cool, I'll
go sit by the pool Carrie, and Cross goes, oh
you have nothing for me this week? Okay, I wonder
if you'll have something for me next week. And then
he goes on a campaign to make sure the fans
are demanding he's involved in next week, and then he
(34:13):
gets it and it's fresh, it's new, it's just hit
for us. But when I see somebody of Drew McIntyre's
ability not doing that, that makes me wonder, what are
you doing? What are you doing? You're just farva right now?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It makes me think with somebody because I see the
cross and I see the cross in McIntire comparison. I
do also I think they're in very very different spots
in their career. For sure. You talk about somebody like
Drew McIntyre who's been to the top, he's held the
title and he's had those opportunities, and I'll be hon
(35:00):
is somebody who's a big Drew McIntyre fan. And remember
the feud that he had with Ceing Punk the way
he carried the company through the pandemic, all the awesome
things that he's done. I think it's fair to say
maybe he's taking his foot off the gas a little bit.
But then you think about somebody like Carrying Cross who's
just fighting and you know, clawing and scratching for every
(35:23):
little camera opportunity, every match, every chance to be on
a pl e, every chance to have a backstage scenario
where he has the opportunity to get in. Somebody said,
I just think that they're in two very different spots
of their career. I think Carrying Cross deserves to be
in that spotlight because if you know Carrying Cross the
way a lot of US fans know Carrying Cross, you
(35:45):
know who he was, Killer Cross in MLW, you know
who he was as a former NXT World Heavyweight Champion.
They didn't bring this man back and re sign him
and then put have him putting you know, you know,
one of those sand times in front of Roman Reigns
upon his return for no reason. They got to have
something for this guy to where they think he's so
(36:08):
I could definitely one hundred percent see the Carrying Cross
and Drew McIntyre commentary, because you have Carrying Cross, who
was once considered, you know, to be possibly a chosen
one to him now having to just try to get
whatever he can get. You know. I don't know if
Carrying Cross is considered maybe going away for a while,
(36:29):
letting the contract expire and and maybe try that route again.
He already tried it once, so I don't know why
he'd want to go back to it again. But I
think that WW is gonna try to work him in
there some kind of way. They got to see what's
going on, and you can't hold somebody like that down
for long. As far as Drew McIntyre, I just think
(36:50):
that they don't know what to do with him right now. Honestly,
more than anything else, I think they don't know what
to do with him right now, and it's a It's
an interesting lane, but we gotta move on continue here
because we're talking interesting lanes for talent. We had a
match part of the fifteen hundred tag team matches that
went down on SmackDown. There was a triple threat women's
(37:14):
tag team match between the Secret Hervist b fab and
met Chin and Alexa Bliss in Charlotte Flair Now with
the story that they're telling when I look at the
structure of this here and you just see the writings
on the wall, you see what's going on. They're not
giving Charlotte an Alexa this camera time to try to
(37:35):
develop this storyline between the two, just for them to
go into this match and lose. Now, for me, I
think that there's a much better competitive drive for something
like this if you put in the secret hervist because honestly,
I thought Albafire and Piper Niven were cooking as a
tag team. I'm a fan of tag teams who match
(37:58):
they're part of the same stable's legitimate women's tag team
that feels like they should be in that spot. Now.
I'm somebody who's talked about Charlotte Flair many a times
where I'm just like, I'm not interested in what she's doing.
She only has one lane, one direction. We're tired of it.
Every time she comes back, she jumps, the line goes
right for the women's world title. Has no character development,
(38:21):
no story development, anything like that. I've also been critical
of Alexa Bliss. If you guys have been listening to
this podcast, that she hasn't shown up on TV. Nobody
cares about what she's doing. She's a grown woman playing
with the doll. Now they're doing something interesting with these two.
To give them a lane, give them a path, and
(38:42):
for me, if they're gonna have them rolling out there
on TV. The Charlotte Flair thing is tired with her
going for the title. There's also been you know, podcast
and excerpts and things out there of her saying she
wants to try to change the narrative on herself. She
wants to try to change that narrative on her that
she only has one uh, she only has one line,
(39:04):
that she's hated, that she's supposed to be this uh,
pampered and and you know, special this and that queen.
And you know, I got a lot of thoughts on that,
but I gotta get some of the grun's thoughts here.
Where are you at with the triple threat match? Let's
talk about the development of what they're trying to do
with the Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So dude, all right, look, so it's no secret I
am a big Alexa Bliss fan. I was not a
fan of Charlotte and Alexa winning. Now you have convinced
me that, okay, all this is for storytelling purposes, to
eventually put the titles on them and then someone else
(39:46):
to beat them, possibly soul rukn Zaria because I because
they I think them as a tag team, you could
in theory bring them up, all right, She maybe even
not bring them up, but force Alexa List and Charlotte
Fair to defend the tack ting titles in NXT, creating
an opportunity for sol Ruka and Zaria to still be
(40:06):
an NXC, still be on NXC roster, but give them
the tag team titles.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
And be able to make SmackDown appearances.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Exactly, So, while they're still not technically on the main roster,
they're being given opportunities they're giving They're they're showing the
main roster fans exactly what are Zaria and sol Ruka
have to offer, introducing the fans to the next generation
of women's wrestling. That being said, I would not have
(40:40):
been met if the Secret Harvists or if Meechin and
Beefab had won this match.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
My only issue with the BFAB thing is I just
don't think she's ready for title opportunities yet. Me Chian is,
but Bfab not there yet.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, we we definitely saw that b fab. While she
definitely has her fundamentals down, she needs a little bit
more work unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
And I'm a fan, Like you said, I think you
said it before the show. You're a fan of her.
I'm a fan of her when she when she was
part of I think it was maybe last year when
they really started letting her wrestle and she was in
like the triple Threat matches to qualify for the Queen
of the Ring, and she turned a lot of heads.
She really did. She turned a lot of heads. But yeah,
I think there's still some work to be done there
(41:26):
for sure. I think it's interesting listen once again with
Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair. These are two women that
I think, especially especially Charlotte, but also I think Alexa
is in that conversation too. Are two women that need
this ego check. They need to be trickled down the card.
(41:48):
You guys aren't in the spot where you guys are
the main event anymore. So if you want to get
TV time, you're gonna have to get more relegated roles.
You know who did it, Bianca Belair did it. You
know who's doing it now? Bailey and Becky Lynch they're
they're taking their spot in the mid card. So I
think that this is an interesting lane for Charlotte. She's
(42:09):
trickled back down the card a little bit. You know,
maybe that's a hit to her ego. But also, if
you are truly saying that you want to try to
change public perspective on yourself to have people maybe see
you in a more favorable light, and you have to
have TV time, in my opinion, this is the way
to do it. Humble her a little bit. I think
that we'll see less and less of the the referee
(42:32):
come in and opening the rope former. I think that
needs to end if you're gonna change that narrative. I
like the padding on the head thing as far as like, oh,
you know, maybe I kind of had that coming. I
feel like, in my mind, the story is that Charlotte
Flair is having to be humbled a little bit. But
I'm gonna do it over to my man voice. Where
you at with the women's tag team division as a whole,
(42:55):
specifically Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Uh. I like the women's tag team division. I think
it's it's up and coming, especially with what we see
in coming out of n XT. I really want to
see soul Ruka up on the main roster. It. Yeah,
if it's with a tag team, I'm I'm happy with that.
(43:21):
If it's solo, I'm happy with that. I think she's
got it. She understands the assignment and she she fulfills
every spot they need. I agree with you this. This
needs to happen for both women, Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss.
(43:42):
I It's no secret I am no fan of either
one of these women. I'm very critical. I was a
huge fan of Charlotte, but I started noticing the let's
just call them rookie mistakes that she does.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
She gets frazzled by the crowd way too easily in
her in her tenure, she should be unmovable. Her her
father was her father. You had to he had to
have heart attacks and things like that to be drug
out of a ring. Rick Flair he didn't let a
crowd move him. He moved the crowd. And I'm not
(44:24):
saying that you got to be the Rick Flair and everything,
but I will say, when you come out and like
houses talking, you come out in this robe gimmick, you
come out your father did that just so you know
you come out in little Nature's holding the ropes open
for you. You know, that's that's the respect to the Flair name.
(44:49):
That's what a referee did back in the day for
a wrestler of the caliber of Rick Flair. So all
of those things need to go because now we need
to see what you can do with the Flare name.
Flair is not there anymore. He's shitting himself in a
bar and not paying tab. So that's what your dad
(45:11):
is doing right now. The man who used to you know,
fly on jets profile do all the shit, that's what
he does now. So now it's your turn. Now it's
your turn to become the Flair that we know the
name can be, and it's your turn to turn it
into your own way, because there's there's never going to
(45:31):
be another your father. There's never going to be another Nature.
There's never going to be anything to that caliber. So
let's talk about what Ashley can do with the name.
Let's talk about what Charlotte can do with it. And
right now you're you're in a perfect position to do
(45:51):
exactly what you need to do. I don't know the
I don't understand the attraction with Alexa Bliss. She bores
fuck out of me. She to me, she is just
a regular. I want to be Harley Quinn. But I
don't understand comix because there's reading and it really annoys me.
Because if you knew anything about Harley Quinn, Harley Quinn
(46:14):
was submissive to the joker. She did anything that man
told her to do because she believed in what he
was about, much like what you should have been putting
forth in the hole when you were with the Wyatts.
I understand some people think she did. I don't. I
(46:35):
think you could have played that character way better into
which it would have had longevity into now where I
would have cared about you, because now I don't care
about you because you are walking around with a doll
and talking to it. There's ways to do that. Al
Snow he did it like for a long time. Like
if Al Snow today shows up with a mannequin head,
(46:58):
he can go right into that character. I'm not buying it.
I bought the head, I bought head. I even bought Pepe.
Oh yeah, I don't buy this.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
What about MAPI?
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I bought MAPI I bought I bought Perry Saturn's character
altogether because I thought the dude was nuts and I
could have swore nuts. He knocked some screws loose. So
Mapy was believable.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. But as far as
going back real quick to Alexa Bliss and I'll jump
into that real quick before I say our man, the
louis in the chat, he says, Eye, why a happy
house party? Mom? Man, always good to see you. Hop
In the chat he says, what does everybody want? Hey?
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yes, man, we know does everybody need Hey, principle, come on, man,
come on, blax PC Principal.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Col We're gonna we're staying on track here. We're gonna
continue to but back to back to Alexa Bliss. Man
once again, I have to say I was there in
uh in Lucas Oil when she returned to the Royal Rumble.
I'm I'm gonna always say this, she had one of
the biggest pop, if not the biggest pop of the night,
(48:24):
and everything that has happened since then has been so
so mid. I mean, it's below mid. Honestly, it's below mid.
So that's the I'm definitely gonna let you go grun
most definitely, but it's been below mid she was off
TV for a while, and then you know, then when
she came back, they really didn't have anything for her.
(48:46):
And now they're trying to form this partnership with Charlotte Flair.
I honestly feel like and then I'm gonna give it
to Grun. I honestly feel like these two women need
each other right now because there are two women that
were kind of just hanging on by a thread of
relevancy and now they can lean on each other. Make
if you're gonna be a tag team, do it. Go
(49:07):
for it. You guys are two former women's champions. You know,
alexas a former women's tag team champion multiple times with
Nikki Cross. They could be the women's version of Rated
Rkoh if this is done right. But you have to
own it exactly. Yowie Wowie, Grun, you had some thoughts
what you're thinking, bro?
Speaker 4 (49:27):
I did?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I mean, you were saying everything they've been doing is bid,
And yeah, I'm like, I'm not in love with everything
that the Alexa Bliss and Charlotte have been doing since WrestleMania.
But there is a very unfortunate fact that we need
to acknowledge about the tag team match they were in
Friday Night and that the only pop came when Alexa
(49:49):
Bliss was tagged into the match. Wow, the match was dead, silent.
The crowd was not reacting.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
That crowd sucked.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with voice, but not very good crowd.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Like there's no way, like this match is this bad
that people aren't reacting like I it's like, I think,
you know what, that's probably what we saw. That's probably
we probably saw be Fab meetching and Secret Harvests doing
the best they can. But the crowd was dead. They
did not want anybody but Alexa Bliss, and I.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Like the finish of the match. I didn't even hate
the finish of the match with the moon salt and
the head pad, like, oh, I'm better than you because
the story I do believe, the story that they're telling
is that Alexa is going to help Charlotte humble herself
and they can you know, I see the story here,
I see it. So I like the ending. The crowd
was just I mean, it was not good. I mean
(50:49):
I thought they tried their best. I really liked the
Secret Hervist. We were talking about it in the discord
about how much we're huge fans of the Secret Hervist.
I love it. It's a gimmick. They've really come together.
They've really figured out how to use Piper Niven at
Alba Fire to their strengths, especially in ring. I don't
think that. I don't think that match deserved pins, you know,
(51:11):
being able to hear a pin drop.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I don't think that whole SmackDown deserved to hear pins drop.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Lou is that hold on? Lou was saying. The crowd
also had a raw and SmackDown in the same night.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh he's Oh my god, he's here, was yes, because
I remember it was pre taped.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I didn't know that it was.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Pre Do you know how much I would come if
I bought a ticket and I realized I was going
to get to see a raw and the SmackDown? Yes,
I would be doing lines of cocaine off the boner's
next to me, just to stay up and be jacked
for this because.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
We're not but we're not the type to go to
a show and sit on our hands either.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, no, we're not.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, God damn it. I wish I wish our shows
were our weekly shows were over in uh Europe. Yeah,
just give us some europe weekly shows, so there's some energy,
especially for shows like this this. If you go back
and rewatch this week's SmackDown, it was an engaging, fun
show for the stories being told and what we're seeing,
(52:16):
like houses pointing out there is a story to be
told between Charlotte and Bliss, and there's stories being told
by Naomi and Jade. This was a good SmackDown. The
very end was energy filled and a shot of adrenaline
that SmackDown needed and it was through the United States title.
(52:38):
So I don't know what I understand what Lou was saying,
and that makes a lot of sense. But you're a
fucking wrestling fan. Enjoy what you're seeing.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I agree with you. And you know we got Lou
in the chat. He's saying, Dude, I would love to
go to that many shows in a row, but normal
fans can't keep up. That's exactly what Voice is saying. Exactly.
We're not the type of fans to go to a
show and just sit on our hands, like if I'm there,
I am there, bro Like like ask Voice. We watch
ECW every single week and I sit up there and
(53:13):
watch that show. And yes, it is the first time
I've seen it, but I'm not like sitting them here, like, oh,
I can't believe that happened with my phone in my
other hand, and so I'm in there. I'm locked in.
When I watch wrestling, I watch wrestling, bro, That's how
I am.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
We popped hard last week for a match that had
no violence outside of just pure wrestling. It was a
three way dance. It was fantastically done, and we loved it.
We loved every moment of that match.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, yeah, go check out our ECW watch alongs. They're great.
We'll definitely talk more about that at the end of
the show, but yeah, when we watch wrestling, we enjoy wrestling,
so like, I just can't imagine, you know, them doing
a good job. Even with the tag team you know,
the SmackDown Tag Team division, there's still going you know,
going along with that. That's always gonna be something to
(54:03):
talk about.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
So we would I mean, let me let me ask
real quick. Sorry to interrupt, but wouldn't it be beneficial
to WWE if they were they they know they're going
to do this to the fans, So they're going to
have your Monday Night raw. After that, they're going to
turn it around and they're gonna set you through SmackDown,
(54:26):
So right there, that's near five hours worth of wrestling.
Wouldn't it be smart of WWE too, I don't know,
peruse the internet and find shows like this and then
I don't know, maybe give them a package to where
they could go to these types of shows and be
(54:46):
that energetic fan base that you need for this type
of showing. So you don't have to pipe in things.
You don't have to do this, You don't have to
worry is the crowd getting too worn out because you
have the people who were going to there loving every
moment of it, and then after that five hours, guess
what they're going to do. Within twenty four hours, every
(55:08):
one of us nerds are gonna get onto our computers
in our studios and we're gonna talk about what we
just seen. If you didn't drive home and do it that.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Night, which a lot of a lot of peeps do.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Exactly, why not do that? Why it's not that much
money you could You could have cheap tickets for those
shows and then just flood those cheap tickets with fans
like us, and.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
It will make for better crowds, better visuals, better reactions
to things.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
That are happening, You're gonna sell more merch.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Exactly, You're gonna sell more merch. And like I'm a
firm believer visuals are important and wrestling, Like, let me
just say, would the Dove Ziggler cash in for Alberta
Del Rio be as great if the crowd didn't lose
their shit when when his music played.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Nope, Nope, not at all.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Exactly, that moment was a moment because the crowd made
that a moment, and moments that they intend to make
moments were not reacting to. You know, That's some of
the things. I mean. The tag team division, like I said,
this SmackDown tag team vision is going hot, but you know,
when you have the crowd sitting on their hands and whatnot,
(56:25):
And we got to talk about this because I know
there's a lot of thoughts on this and I'm just
gonna go ahead and throw and lobby this one right
to voice and get his thoughts. And that's the fact
that you had Tiffany Stratton able to choose her challenger
at ww Evolution two, and she chose Tris Stratus. Now
we know the last time we saw Trish Stratus, that
(56:48):
was an elimination Chamber. This was in either the February
March timeframe that was she didn't have to go nowhere,
really was there in Canada. And then I don't really
think we've seen her on TV the sense, but hann
picked opponent for Tiffany Stratton was Tris Strattus
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