July 22, 2025 • 60 mins
Ep. 494: Voice, Grun & Kev discuss all things Monday Night Raw.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
We got clouds, don't smoke in the air. Window folding
down when the games out the streets, taking no more
to the town.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The windows.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
They ain't got clue.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We the window.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Let us make him move. Turn stout brack. That's how
we ride.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
By, o crowd.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We can't beat.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Him nut in the turn out. We hold town. We
don't let us in every town. We pray blady, we're
breaking sound surn sound brown. That's how we keep down.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh dude, he shot him in the dick. Huh, that's
not cool about it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You don't shoot a guy in the dick.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'll rite friends and fans and household all around. It
is I the voice Joshua Joseph here on another Monday
Night Raw preview review show where we talk Monday Night Raw,
and I talk that with two of my close friends
from I y H. It is Kevin Callaway, the chaos goblin,
(01:25):
and Grownmeister, the blue eyed villain fighting out of a corner.
I kind of lost. I seen your glasses and you
look smart, so thank you throwing away No.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
No, yeah, I wear glasses when I'm sick or getting
over an illness.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
When he wants to magnify his blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, so since you made that statement, is there like
a particular reason you do these this one? You were
sick or.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Usually my eyes get really easily bothered during so ah,
so do that?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I mean? Plus, you know what it was?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It was from working hard because I'm trying to get
new opportunities at work and somebody say no, you don't
deserve new opportunities. You're going to get sick.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ah wanted to get new opportunities, so you want to
look smarter. I got it, day, I got it, or
more important than reality.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It could it could be window shields because he's trying
to get a raise. You can't be doing that to
your boss at work, Grun. Do you save that for
hotel rooms or their bedroom? So anyways, so Grun, how
have you been?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
How have you been?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Kevin? How's the week?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Ben?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We know Grun just got over being sick. We missed
just Sunday. We had a fun time. But you were
there in the chat in the spirit. Oh, there are
in the chat talking to about you, Grun and your
Glassessten talk about Grun. I fuck with you the chat instantly,
just they hype you up.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Man, It's it's funny you say fancy because these frames
are five years old.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh dude, I look like a tech guy.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Like you code, that's what you and yet coding is
definitely going to die.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Learn to code? No, no, no, get you kicked off
the internets.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I mean yeah, and now it's like, don't bother learning.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes, you have a eye for that, that's true. And
we got Nick tar Darrow jumping in our chats. He's
also well, he does what we do over there on
his uh his show. Him and his wife do a
great job over there on Friday nights. Go check them out.
That's Nick Nick's Club, Nick's Wrestling Club, Happy Hour, So
(03:55):
come join join everybody doing stuff. So how goes it? Guys,
We've had a lot of a lot of wrestling. We've
had a lot of discussions about different wrestling, different promotions.
We just had slam Aversary last night, and I believe Kevin,
did you get a chance to watch it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I didn't get a chance to watch it directly, but
I did keep up with the results and such, and
I've been active in the discord talking about it too
and what they could potentially be going for and anything
like that. I do want to go back and watch it.
There was a couple of things that interested me specifically,
and then there was a I saw all over the
(04:36):
place for old wrestling socials, Mustafa Ali's dive, and I
don't know if you guys caught it where it looked
like the security just bailed out on him. It did, legitimately,
it did. And I don't mean to sooke this fire
because Mustafa Ali went on record saying no, that's what
(04:57):
was planned for them to not be there so that
he could like hit and then land on his feet.
He overshot five, so worth noting at the start of
the program, like, hey, don't blame those security because I
jumped to that judgment too. So even I was kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Fooled when when I saw that, I gotcha.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm I'm glad Ali clarified it. So shout out to
that and shout out to him for being a real
one and making sure they'll get thrown under a bus.
I know how hard it is to be a young
guy in TNA.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It was. I thought it was a decent pay per
view pl whatever they call it over there. Yeah, yeah,
it was fun.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think they're still in the pay per view model, right, No, No,
they actually have a while ago they did start calling
them plees. Okay, so they are trying to They must
have changed the Oh they have a TNA app, don't they.
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
They might and there's that they were advertising whatever streaming
service they were advertising Freezio or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think a lot of their stuff is on there too.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well, Chat chief is in here, and he was just
an a rascal until he says something credible. I thought
it was what I caught of it. I got I
think an hour late after it started. I thought it
was a good uh good p l e. The the
(06:28):
ending not I really wanted Santana like he That match
was good. I enjoyed that match. It was a good
back and forth. But the the ending, and I fell
for it. I thought Trick actually got a little injured.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They played it off very well. And then it's like
he he just let those two do all the work.
And then the last ten seconds jumps back into the
ring after pretending he was injured. This full time jumping
back into the ring. They never gave them the X.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Sign, So I think that's genius. But I agree with what.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Chat's chief said in the in the discord, it's greedy
of the w W to me because they're not explaining
the story, like it's not developing it fast enough for
me to understand right now at this moment what they're doing.
Are they building up the TNA roster to revolt and
(07:34):
turn against the n XT roster? Uh to where there's
a faction versus faction? Like, where are we going with this?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I have I think that that's the point though, is
for us not to know what is like realistically.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, I I could see that. I can buy that.
Kevin now, grun you and your eyeballs?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What yeah? No? What if? Now?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Now we've been thinking about this, what if? What if
Survivor series isn't w W, What if it's WW versus
TNA wargames. TNA is pissed off that that WWE, NXT
and whoever else have taken their titles and now they're revolting.
(08:19):
They invade a WWE show the way all Colgan went
to do all those years ago. He never was gonna happen,
but today it happens. You have the system, you have
Joe Hendrew, you have Mike Santana, and I'm sorry, I
don't know all the women elegance, you have the frank Yeah,
(08:45):
Masha Masha Slamovich and countless like that. Like we were saying,
because I noticed Survivor series is called Survivor Series wargames,
so there's gonna have a war games match.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We were talking, No, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
This could make it, and this could make it completely
reasonable to do a war games match.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Crazy as I do think we are head to do
a TNA versus WWE something. They could be a whole
It could be a whole p L or a pay
per view like they could theme Bound for Glory completely
around it, and I think that that would work. It
would really well. So I don't think it'll be at
(09:26):
Survivor's Steeriers war game, but fuck grunt, I'd love for
that to happen. I don't think it'll be there, However,
I think it's very realistic to say it could be
Bound for Glory. It could be. Maybe.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
One of the big things that we, the w and
t KO have to keep in mind is that the
the birth rate is not as high as it used
to be in the United States, so less kids. So
will you gonna do who You're gonna appeal to? The
nineteen to forty five year olds probably watching. Okay, yeah,
(10:03):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
This is your demographic trying to appeal to you, guys,
so fucking geta he's about to tell you how to
keep him a fan forever.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You're gonna You're gonna You're gonna appeal to the people
that watched the DNA when they got bored with w
u E. You're gonna appeal to the people that saw
Rhino feud with Christian, the people that saw a g
styles rise truly to his full level of phenomenal. Well, uh,
he is fused with Kurt Angle Frank Kazarian pulling now
(10:36):
the best of Eric Young.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I disagree with this statement highly, not from your grun
but from Fighting's one. No, I don't think want to
put they have they have has gone over Hash.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Did when she was champ as well.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I mean they're they're good.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They're good, they are What if they did this, though,
so we've got I think this could be an interesting
way to go about it. I also think this is
within the realm of possibility. What if we did? Because
TNA is running their pay per views either on Fridays
or Sundays, it depends on when they want to run it. Basically,
what if we had a two day t NA versus
(11:34):
W like NXT. What if there was an n X
t p l E on one day and then they
have the TNA p l E on the next or
vice versa, and you can run it kind of as
a as a continuing and developing story through the two days,
almost like SummerSlam is where it's you know, two nights,
except it's more of whole corporations against each other, so
(11:57):
there's an overarching story throughout both nights, as opposed to
just like hey, this is the finale main event for
Summer Slam night one catch night too, where there's completely
separate stories and nothing the same will happen.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I like it, and chat chief Yeah, I was
thinking that to AJ just replaces Stone Cold in that
invasion story and from you have him over there.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I think you have style side with with TNA.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think we need to put a pin in this
one and we'll continue the conversation. Yeah, this is a
this is at TNA slammerversary bound for glory speculation. I
know you, yeah, you guys would just love to do that,
but we're putting a pin in it. Like we was
putting in here. We got a pin in it, all right,
(12:46):
So let's get to the meat and potatoes of this
show that we love and do. And uh, yes, Daniel Garcia,
you are correct. This is AJ's last run. He's uh,
he's getting ready to hang him up.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But uh, let's kick it off to who wants to
go first this week.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I would like to go first because we got an
interesting segment coming up here on Raw tonight, and that
is now after I'm guessing it's gonna happen after Lyra
and Bailey battle for the WE Women's Tag Team champions chips.
(13:25):
Becky has a proposal for Lyra for their Interconinal championship match.
My question is, what is the stipulation that is going
that these who are gonna that these who are gonna
fight in My guess at this moment is it's gonna
be when we haven't added while an iron Woman match.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I actually like that. I like that because as as
seen on SmackDown, Uh, Cody and Sena is going to
be a street fight, So that would be my first
go to for this match.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Thirty or sixty sixty minute, I think, but I want sixty.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I can I love a good six I'm looking Well, actually,
it depends on what night it is, because there's other
matches on the card that don't need a bunch of time.
So if you put the Iron Woman match sixty minutes
and you put it on the same show as like
Jade and Tiffany, Jade and Tiffany is probably gonna be
a hot fifteen to twelve. That's my gas because that's
(14:37):
probably about where Jade is, which is fine. You can
get a good match out of her and do that
that way. So if you're gonna put it on the
same night as that one, you take the time from
that match and put it into the time allotment for
the Iron Woman match. So, actually sixty I don't think
they've ranged out of sixty a lot when they do
(14:58):
an Iron Woman or Iron Man match, have they? I
don't do it often.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I would have to go back to see what was.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
There where it's just thirty minute, right.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I know that they do that something. I think they
usually do it when it's on TV and not pl
your paper.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, I think that's where that goes to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, and that makes more sense to me because well,
that's the time you have on TV.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
True, uh.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is a oh man, But yeah, I like Iron Women match,
especially because looking up and down the card, like, we
already have a steel cage match, and that's another personal issue, Solver.
We already have a street fight. Like I said earlier,
Helen us Sell is too close to steel cage, so
we're not going to do that. I don't think Plus,
(15:48):
how you're gonna hang out, Well, you can do it
on two different nights, but either way, I don't think
that that's what they're gonna do. You want something that's
going to be legally distinct, and I think, uh, I
think an Iron Woman match is good. Last Women Standing
would also work, just because it's at least different. First
Blood they don't like doing anymore, only because it's.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, they've painted themselves quite a corner with so they
might have to look at that one.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I'm aware they.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Crimson masks as well as Cody, so I imagine Becky.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, we're talking that First Blood matches are unpredictable in
this kind of scenario because it busted open at all
hard way without any playing.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, remember the giant band aid on Austin's head, and
they not that they haven't Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
They tried yeah, that and I think that's why they
shied away from first blood matches now, which I can't
say I blame them. It's snakes. Yeah, but yeah, I
think I think Iron Woman match would be a really
good stipulation for them. I think they've been doing what
like thirty minute matches anyway, so a thirty Iron Woman
match doesn't I don't think that really works as well,
(17:00):
only because it's not as traditional first off, which I
think some people will pooh pooh. But even without that,
if they're already having thirty minute classics with each other,
if you're just gonna do a thirty minute Iron Iron
Women match, like it's just kind of the same thing,
you're gonna expect one to two pinfalls, right, So if
we do sixty, I think we can get more out
(17:21):
of it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
So, just so you guys know, the last ten there
was an Iron Man a thirty minute Iron Man match
August fifth, twenty twenty one, on an episode of nxt
UK between a Kid and Jordan Devlin. Oh Women for
the Women December eighteenth, two thy sixteen. At roadblock.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
End of the line was that the Sasha Banks one.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It was Charlotte Flair and Sasha Banks.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Jeez, that's been that long.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, it's been almost ten years.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I think it realistically, if there's two women who can
do it on the roster and it makes sense, I
think it is these two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I like that bad idea too. I'm a I'm
a sucker for any type of sixty minute thirty minute match.
To me, the iron Man match was just made perfect
by Brett Hart. I mean just him in the way
(18:30):
Michaels could go in those matches. The amount of like
just pure emotion you can get out in those matches
from the fans and things like that I think really
really help a storyline, especially in this. I could just
see these two tearing the house down in a match
(18:53):
like this and really going for it and showing what
wrestling is and we can all chance wrestling when things up,
because I think that's where we're where we're leaning towards,
and I hope that's where they go.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Any other stuff on that grun that you need to
get in. I know that mine's been working since last Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, this is interesting because I'm reading the chat in
Fighting Sane iron Man. Isn't iron Man more of a
closer match, and yeah, kind of kind of is more
of a closer.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I could see that closer.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It can be. But also like I don't know, I
don't know if you guys remember these specific matches, but
like Ben Wahan, Angle did submission matches, submission iron Man matches,
and they were in the middle of the card.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
So it's been a while to see one of those.
That would definitely be interesting because that would give that
would be Becky putting her in an advantage since she
usually uses submissions.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That was another one.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
A submission match in general I think would be interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, when was the last time we did a falls
count anywhere I quit match?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Actually some.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Falls count where I went to damn.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I mean the best ones I remember is the
famous one of Mick Foley getting the uh fake I
quit being played over the kinder cup.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Actually don't that's a good question, Lou. I don't know
if a women's strap match has ever happened.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I hate strap matches and I.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Was quick aside, quick aside, I was in a I
was in a match and it was it was essentially
a strap match, but we did it with chains, so
we were handcuffed to each other or cuff to each
other with a set of chains. I hate these matches.
For two seconds weeks working with them. One I might
land on a chain and that sounds terrible. Yeah, so
(21:04):
there's that. Yeah, But two, unless you're careful, that ship
can break pretty easily. And if you break it, you're
no longer in.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
A strap mat No, you're you're kind of done with
that match.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You're done with the strap match. Had not happened. That
happened during ours. It was a it was a tag
team one too. So there's two sets of chains with
two people attached to each other, which is a logistical nightmare.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, nightmare.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
My chain and the other guy I was strapped to
stayed on the other one did not. And it was
just it was a it was an episode in insanity.
But they were just trying to clip it back on
and then it just kept breaking clip. It was the worst.
It was funny. It's a good story and a good
uh good memory, but I just like, what's happening.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I liken that to my favorite like horror movies that
are the independent horror movies, and you know you're just
there for a laugh, and uh, you know exactly, you
know where I'm coming from uh so, grin did you
find that?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Uh so Google?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
AI is saying there has never been a fall scout
anywhere I equit match. Now, it could be that it
has no idea what that means.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'm sure ECW's probably done some we back in the
nineties probably did a few.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They did it with the Rock and Man.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It was the Rock and mankind. So I think I
think it's how you're putting it in. Maybe anywhere matches
are always false count anywhere there are always okay always.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So then that's okay, Then that's it, and then let's.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I know, it's been a while since we've had an
equit match. I've not seen anybody be doing one of those.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean we have, we haven't had an I quit
in a little while.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't remember the last one.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Actually, I hopefully this is gonna tell me the last one.
I think this is no not all eat rest and
not t and A w CW fuck okay, AJ Cody Rhodes,
AJ Styles last year, Yeah, this was last year. The
last time we had one of those.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, we could have one for the women's I would
like that. I'm not I really don't want to do
the strap match and uh, chat chief what you're saying. No,
we just can't have that, and I can't show that.
I wish I could, but I can't because it's pretty
fucking funny.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Uh, it'll be a Bailey on a pole match and
it'll just be her sitting up there shouting at them.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
That could be entertaining too. I mean, look what it
goes to Dom's career.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, we'll go full Judy Judy bag while on a forklift.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Speaking of that, buff bagwell, hope you recover and your
spirits stay high and you realize that there's there's still
a lot more the world can do with buff Bagwell,
even with only one leg, my friend, and I'm glad
the pain.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I'll tell you what if if def Leopard's drummer can
drum with one hand, buff bagwell can do whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, and if you're lucky, a skateboarder out there will
make a trick after it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
They did the deaf Leopard drummer crying. It was a
pretty cool trick. I enjoyed it, all right. So Kevin,
do you want to go last or are you ready
to go with yours?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'll go with mine just in case we have some
discord questions we want to get to or anything. I
don't know that mine will be too long, only because,
like we talked about these guys when we were live
watching it, because they happen to have a match, and
I'm interested where I think at least one of these
guys goes after this. But they've been having quietly a
(25:03):
nice feud on raw is Seamus and RUSSEV. They're gonna
have another match tonight. I believe. My assumption is that
Seamus has to get a win at some point, and
it might be tonight. Uh, But I'm very curious where
they because they brought Rusef back in, and I do
believe there's there's some decent money behind him. He's a
(25:24):
big dude. He can do things believably. He can have
these matches with Seamus, And usually what happens is people
who work with Seamus then go on to hopefully get
into something else after they've had a night, after they've
had a nice feud. It's not one hundred percent, but
that's just true with everything. So I just wanted to
talk a little briefly about the Shamus and Russef feud.
(25:47):
How we're feeling about it, how we're going from there,
and then maybe what's next on the horizon for Ruv
because it seems like they've brought him back, but it's
kind of it's taken a back seat to some other stuff,
and that's true with a lot of WWE. But what
are some potentials we could do with Russef? I guess.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I First, I love what they're doing with him and Seamus.
I think those two together is money. It's magic. They
they know how to push each other in a match,
and that's exactly what you expect when you see either
one of those names on the card, let alone in
the same match. Outside of that, for Rusef, h I
(26:32):
I would, honestly I would love to see him and
Breaker go at it. I think him and him and
Breaker could have some great matches. I think though, that
Russf needs to go against guys that kind of put
him in breakers view from his eyesight, because it wouldn't
(26:52):
make sense for him to just go up there and
you know, like pick a fight, either one of them
pick a fight with each other. Like at this point,
it just doesn't seem logical right now, I see fighting
with one saint Drew McIntyre. To me, this is the
(27:13):
you either you go with a guy who is like
Seamus and he's a brute, he's gonna give you a
big beefy match with Rusif, or you put him with
a guy like Drew who's gonna give him a psychological match,
and it's gonna be more uh psychology, and then a
(27:36):
probably a big brutal match too. So for me, they're
they're Drew and Seamus on a on a stat sheet
are kind of the same character in a sense. So
to me, if if Rusif went to Drew McIntyre right
after this, it would just be a side movement as
(27:58):
opposed to an upwards movement or downwards movement. Am I
wrong in this or.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I don't. I think it would be tough to do
a Russef Drew McIntyre as well, and like a couple
other ones, just because I feel Rusef does best when
it's either he can have the matches where they're just
gonna go out there and murder each other. But the
other match that he's really good at to me is
the David Verus Goliath match where he's the bigger guy
(28:28):
and he faces someone who's smaller nick right there. That
was my guess is Penta and Russif I think he
goes into Penta okay, and I think it keeps both
of them. It keeps both of them relevant, It keeps
both of them going, It keeps them in a nice
feud where they can have nice matches together. They can
go win for win, and it doesn't hurt either guy.
(28:49):
They don't need to do. As long as Penta like
knocks one off of Russev convincingly, Rusef can win another
two and it won't matter. As long as Penta wins
in the last one. I think would be fine because
then Penta can take that momentum. But Rusf also elevated
from it. Uh. I think I think Russef needs a
guy to throw around. I think that's where they will
(29:11):
go after this with him, because Seamus has showed Seamus
has elevated the fact that Rusef can murder someone because
he's going to hurt them. Right, So, now that you've
established this, you can have that person go from Seamus
to a smaller dude because he's going to murder him,
because it's already psychologically in our head.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I like that. I like that and Nick was also
grun before we get your answer on this question. He
wanted to throw this one out there. Who does Seamus
win the Icy title from? You know, it's eventually happening,
he has to.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
If he is, it's it's it's gonna be freaking out
if if Seamus is going to win, if he is,
because at this point I don't know if he is
or isn't anymore. If he is, it's probably going to
(30:11):
be Obam, I think, because I think at that point
you'll Oba Wolf had a good enough run on as
Icy champion and Ova losing to Seamus doesn't hurt him.
It just makes him stronger, just makes him work harder,
(30:32):
and then you can go with Oba Femi versus Gunther
for the World typeweight championship.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Man, you are putting Oba already in championship.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Matches, honestly, that's probably what they're gonna do, is put
him into higher ranks quickly.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Is such a.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Beast he is. I think they need it just a
quick side for Nick's here. He's probably going after stand
and deliver, is my guest. I think he'll be down
there for a while longer I don't think they want
to make the same mistake with Trick or Oba that
they have in the past, where they're bringing people up
(31:16):
without a plan, and especially someone like Oba, if you
bring him up without a plan, it's gonna hurt him
a lot. Whereas like Trick, he could recover. I think
if they didn't have a big, big plan, Oba is
a guy that I don't think he can recover as well,
because he needs to be presented quickly as a monster.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Hold On, Nick was saying, uh, I would put Zilafato
on the main before Oba at this point.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Just because of his last name.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
No, I think he would fit into storylines quicker. Sure,
so if we're just talking about before, uh, I guess
only because he could slot into anything that Solo is
doing right now, literally anything. And I actually I don't
disagree with that opinion either. I think Trick and Mellow
(32:12):
together as heels and as a similar stature heel instead
of Trick as you know, the young boy. I think
that that as a team would work really really well.
But I don't want to see it. And I was
talking to this earlier with chat Chief. I don't want
to see it. At the same time as street profits
are still a team. I want to see street profits
(32:34):
break up so that they can do whatever they want
to do singles, while Trick and Mellow come together and
then form another team because I think there their stuff
overlaps too much from a from a gimmick perspective. Yeah,
and I think that that would be a problem once next,
(32:57):
I agree with what makes sense. Yeah, I always agree
with what makes sense?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Uh grun, What is your thoughts on what Kevin brought
to us about Russef? Uh Russef?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think Wall.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'm running through my head and I'm like, in theory,
it looks it would be a good idea to put
Kevin or carry across with Russef. But at the same time, like,
this is not the right time, this is not the
right scenario, This doesn't help, this doesn't help carryon, and
this doesn't help Rusef.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So why do that?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I don't know what you do with Russef. I'm glad
that he's back. I want to hear him in the
ring or cut more vignettes saying how he's going to
redeem people, explain how he's going to redeem people. That's
more what I want to see from Russef.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I want to you want to see him cut the
promo of comet come on you like God's Wrath? Yes,
I loved. I loved the Redeemer. Yeah, you loved when
it come on you like God's Wrath.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I was surprised you didn't get that the first time
he went around. I fucking went back for seconds and
he was like this, what, Grun, You're gonna fucking get
this joke if I have to beat it into work
second time round, Grun, there you go, Budd.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
All right, all right, I joke saw me as always,
but I don't disagree.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
With you jokes aside. I don't disagree with you. I
really like the Redeemer stuff, and I don't think it
came to full like it didn't come to full fruition
in ae W. Yeah, for whatever reasons it was. It's
not even worth getting into. But the Redeemer Russeph would
work and it still has legs.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It would yeah, yeah, Kaiser, Russ yeah, money yeah, I
agree that Kaiser and Rusive would say.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I think the problem is we're pitching a lot of
people who are heels versus heels. Yes, and that is
a I think that would be a problem because Russif,
I think, needs to get over more as the monster
heel and the guy who can beat people down. And
I think Seamus is elevating that fact. But then he
needs someone who he can run through a little bit,
not like a long feud, maybe like a month month
(35:16):
and a half where he just kind of dominates somebody.
Then he can go into someone who's smaller but can
stick up for the smaller guys.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
That would what if Rudis is that guy that Shame's
can run through. Gives Rudis some more time as a
solo though he doesn't need to win the matches, but
you can probably have a.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Goofi or heel too. Yeah, I think that that would work.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
M I like that. I like the Russif plan we
have going on. I just hope they do something something
with substance with him, because I've always loved Rusif. I'm
there with you, grun come all over me. Ah, you know,
say look there now we're joke brothers.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I do think aj Styles might beat Domits or Slam though,
because I think they want. I think they might want
the Icy title to make an appearance in TNA.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That might be a fun thing that might do that great.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I think if AJ wins it, he's got to make
it the white the white belt, He's got to do
this one belt yeah style and just come into I
mean just seeing that in TNA and I want to
we're my my subject is going to be what what
we were talking about in discord. We're going to bring
the discord in for my subject. But before we we
(36:32):
dive into that, I want to say, Uh, we did
find out that the Dudley Boys will be having one
more match, and uh, this is going to be fun.
It's going to be a nostalgic. This is going to
be something that we can.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I'm going to be hoping. I'm going to be hoping
for a lot of hoping for a lot of things.
As a as a former ten year old kid, I'm
going to be hoping for a dope Herty's and Dudley's matches.
As a thirty five year old wrestler, I'm gonna be
hoping that nobody dies.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
But either way, it's going to be fantastic, you know
what I mean. I think it's going to be safe
for these guys. Divon. I don't think he would get
into a ring unless it was absolutely safe for him.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
About the Heartys.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, yeah, they looked a little rough. I'm not sure
why they decided to put the titles back on them
after they just lost them, But I don't know. I'm
not following TNA. I was just completely enjoying the product
as it was. So that that's where we're at with that.
(37:45):
Now let's jump into our discord portion in which we're
going to use that for my subject and uh, because
pretty much it was similar to what I was going
to talk about. We had our boss House himself, Alacan House, asking, Uh,
(38:05):
he would like to hear what we think of Roman,
what you guys think Roman will do tonight?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
So they do.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I'll throw this out there just so we know it
is reporting the Roman reigns is specifically going to address
Paul Hayman, okay Worth noting.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
My assumption throughout this, I don't know how he's gonna
address Paul Hayman. There are multiple avenues he could take
with that. There's also multiple avenues depending on Seth's involvement
in any way. If he happens to be there in
a wheelchair or whatever, selling an injury, you know, just
to be there holding the breath whatever the fuck. End
(38:53):
game of Roman's appearance tonight, to me is to set
up Roman and Jay versus Bron and Braun. That's the
end game. I'm not quite sure how they get there.
I do believe that because Roman was the one standing
last week, Bron and Bron will be the one standing
this week. So Roman will get taken out, Jay will
(39:17):
get taken out. That's how the match will get set up,
and Paul Hayman will be the one to challenge them,
is my assumption.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Hmm, okay, I could see that with him. Uh my
thoughts on what Roman if he's addressing Paul, I would
assume that he's going to be He's gonna go at
it in that the Roman reigns try to beat the
(39:49):
hell out of people before he gets his answers. And
I think it's gonna get to a point to where
Bron and Braun do get Roman down, and uh but
I I think it's gonna be Hayman the last one standing.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
And just because I like the visual of Roman down,
Bron and Bron down and Hayman clutching, clutching that the
this briefcase in the middle of the ring and looking
because he did this, this is on the blood of
(40:24):
what happened to Roman and see him punk is on
Hayman's hands. Seth may have, he may have dealt out
the actions, but hey, we all know Hayman is the
mastermind exactly. So without him this doesn't get orchestrated and
put out the way it did so for me, I
(40:46):
because he represents Bron and Braun. So I think you
get that where we're looking at. But I don't know
how they get to that moment, but there has to
be some Maybe they put him through a table, maybe
somebody comes, maybe Jacob, you know, flies out. Maybe who
knows what happens with this moment, but I don't know.
(41:11):
Something like when you were first speaking about it, Kevin,
that was just stuck in my head was just Hayman's
standing looking at all the devastation and clutching that briefcase
because I think they need to make that briefcase almost
the star of the group right now.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I think Hayman ends up the start of the group
at this point. So not to take away from the
Bron and Bron part, but I think you're right, Hayman
is the centerpiece of this group. It isn't especially with
Seth out seth didn't feel like the mastermind ever. It
(41:48):
always felt like Hayman because he was the one intertwined
in all of the people from Mania. Yeah, so Hayman
is the centerpiece of this group, and it's basically focused
around he screwed over his two friends so that he
could go this way because fuck those people. That's essentially
how it's been framed. So I'm hoping with Roman here
(42:12):
we get a little bit of explanation from Paul and
the Roman end of it, because we got some for
the Punk end of it because they had a promo
back and forth, but we we really haven't gotten anything
from the Roman end of it. Nope, it hasn't been
a lot of explanation on that front. So I'm I'm
looking forward to them because both of them are very
good promos. Roman is much better these days than the
(42:35):
days of the Big Dog.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
You are one on that one.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
There's a wild variety of difference from the time that
Sina cooked him on a mic and almost killed his career.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, almost nuped his career.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Night and day. So I'm looking forward to Roman and
Paul sparring on the mic and giving us that explanation
that we need that a lot of people have been
craving because the confusion can't keep happening in the group.
And I think we're gonna start getting answers, but we're
just at that point where if we don't start getting answers,
we're gonna start getting a little antsy about everything.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I think now I'm they've in uh you know, pervert terms.
They've edged us to the point of a completion here,
and we're hopefully, I really do hope we get that
that angle with those two and we figure out exactly
what was behind Paul's brain in this. Why would you
(43:36):
do this and go against Roman? Grun? What you got
any thoughts on this one?
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I I think what we're going to hear is Roman
expected his wise man to keep the family in order?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Is what do say? Wise man? You failed me?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
You let Solo take Maulafalla, you let all this happen.
Hayman is gonna say, let him? How could I stop him?
You the tribal chief, were not here to keep the
family in order. You abandoned me. Yeah, this is going
(44:26):
to be a very much it's gonna be very much
blaming each other, but both are gonna have valid points
as to why why things went the way they did
night they both Roman talk this tale between his legs,
went home and didn't know what to do. Paul Hayman
wasn't ballsy enough to take control from Solo. So I
(44:55):
definitely can see this leading to a tag team match.
There will ever ever be a last dog in the
hard match.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
It should be I like it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I don't like it, Vince. It probably won't have dog food. Yeah,
but here's the.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Thing, it's so be sponsored by Michael Vick.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
It sounds like the only way to win that match
is to toss your opponent over the top rope and
it's a one on one battle royal.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
No, that's the Bob Barker rules. You get Spader Neuter
at the end of it. Dang, that's how you lose.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
You win by putting a collar on your opponent, with
a shot collar. Oh. I like the change.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You get to walk them around for a week.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
To literally dog walk them.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
After that, look at this big dog, Grundmeister, Look at that.
You're getting that grin? People are.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I do think this might set the stage for war games.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think it's probably pop in the chat.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I think the two possibilities that I'm seeing right now
for war games, at least on the men's side is
either the Hayman Group versus a coalition of people or
Solo and his group against Fatu and whoever. Those are
(46:22):
the two that I can see. There's a lot of
time in between now and war games, so any of
that could change, but those are the only two that
I feel are slowly burning to that moment. I think
I think it's stronger if you do the the Hayman
Group personally, because you're involving so many people in it already.
(46:45):
You have La Knight, who's already involved in it. You
have Penta who's already involved in it. Sammy's getting taken
out of it by Carrion Cross, so I doubt he
gets reinserted, which is probably good for Sammy to be
away from it quite frankly, Yeah, and it's good for
Cross to have a few that keeps going. Yeah. Then
(47:07):
you have Jay Usso, who doesn't have too much going
on right now, so this gives him something important to do.
And then of course you have Roman Reigns and you
have c him Punk see him Punk assumingly, if if
our assumptions are correct, will be cashed in on probably
by that time by Seth Rollins. So then you have
(47:27):
the world champion Seth Rollins in the match with his henchmen,
potentially with two other people, maybe not in the group,
but like kind of like how Solo did it with
Bronson Reid. The year that they did that, was that
just last year? Yeah? I think it was just last year. Yeah,
you have them in that match as kind of mercenaries.
(47:51):
I think they still might add a fourth to to
Rollins's little little coalition. I just don't know who it
would be. That's the key. I've always heard like slight
rumblings of Austin theory, but like I think he would work.
I just don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
That group.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Oh I know he would.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
He would pop so hard in that group too.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Austin theory is the one big I could I go
on a grant about Austin theory and the dropped ball
because he was the Vince guy that was the old
He's like the only Vince Guy that Triple Ah looked at.
He's like maybe not.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I I wanted to be Logan. If I'm being honest,
I like it like Logan the attitude Logan is best
served elsewhere though, because it seems like he's starting this
like feud against other celebrities, against the mainstream people coming
in even though he's the main the classic heel of like, hey,
I don't like outsiders.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Even though he's an outsider, so like he was one
of the ultimate. I think it's great because then you
can just have Logan Paul work with a bunch of
celebrities and it works every time. Yeah, I don't hate
him in the group though, in fairness, but I kind of.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
He does fit the dynamic. But I do see exactly
where you're coming from, and with with the main storylines
and then the the B storyline C storylines, I think
he's more profitable over there because he's going to have
to pull back if he's in with them, and at
(49:30):
this point, I kind of don't want him to pull back,
especially after that promo with Jelly Roll, like that's gold,
and you don't want to stop gold being made if
it's being made. So yeah, but you're you're one that
his mentality would fit right in with that group, and
I think they they could have some fun with that,
(49:52):
especially his little cutting comments towards his own team. I
think that would be fun him telling Bronson and he's
got to lose some pounds and get in the shape.
Would be a little humorous to me.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Chief, I might have a good prediction for the for
the war games actually, and also Logan Paul Ver's Netflix
would be hilarious, dude, Yeah, there we go me, uh,
because that would give Cross something important to do while
still involving someone who like Sammy, who was already there.
(50:26):
You don't have to put Penta in this. You could
put pent in something else, and I think he might
be served better there too, anyway. Yeah, and then you
just add one more to seth Rollins's group, and I
think that that works. That's a that's a good prediction.
I think I'm gonna hold onto that one. Chat Chief,
I think that's a good one, all right. I like it.
(50:47):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Chat Chiefs getting over with this crowd. Uh, he's pretty
good at it. And we are nine minutes away before
Raw Goos Live fans. So if there's any quick questions
anything you need to uh clear up with this bearded
brigade for Raw, let us know real quick, because we
got nine minutes we're gonna end this ship.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
What a time to be alive?
Speaker 3 (51:14):
What a time to be alive. That is exactly it.
We're going to end the show with the new commercial
for our Brainbuster t line. We are going to be
adding more designs and more of the content creators their
own little personal things on there. So but for what
(51:35):
we have now, we're going to give you that and
let you, if you want, go out there and support
iy H. Brainbuster T's. That's where we live, and that's
where you can get the merch of the Voice Jones,
divinely designed Annie O'Neil and IYH merch. Like I said,
(51:57):
we are going to be adding a grunline. We will
probably be adding something to do with Kevin. We know, Kevin,
you're an independent wrestler, so you obviously make your money
doing things like that. So, uh well, we'll we'll talk
about that.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I haven't had merch in a very long time. No this,
I live as a heel and I'm an old school heel.
I don't go out and sell merch when I'm a hell.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Well, and you know what, that's a great thing that
Kevin brought up, because Brainbuster Tea, you don't got to
go to the show. You could just go to the
website and you can buy it there and nobody will
ever know Kevin sold your merch. There's always ways around
if if the grun line is free.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
I think that's us. I think they decide.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
I think yeah, And I don't think they let that route.
That's just not something I think they do. All right, Kevin,
you got you got something coming up that you dropped into.
I yeah, let's pull that up and give us some
explanation on this.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
keV up on Sunday at the Sanctuary in ham Trammick
is Sanctuary Fight Club Detroit. It's got a lot of
good talent on there, as you can see. Jody Threat,
It's got Zeko, It's got Ryan Matthias, Ray Larson, the Starman,
Harley Harley, rock rowhat Raju, Joe Coleman, Joe Tomorrow, all
(53:30):
of these people like they can they can go. And
it's a great show every single time, sells out almost
every single time. Small venue, punk rock, feel crowds, the ring.
Drinks are cheap in ham Trammick, so there's that too.
And man, just it's got a lot of good actions.
One of my favorite shows to be a part of.
(53:51):
And I can't speak enough good about this, and they
are they're affiliated also with Lucha Boom, which I work
close with, and a lot of the talent that you
see here ends up on those shows as well. And yeah,
coming off of a oh yeah, coming off a successful
title defense, I don't have the title here with me.
Head last Friday, I'll I'll have another defense of that
(54:15):
and another open challenge so that one of these young
boys can come up and try and step to me.
I'll have another defense of that, I believe August fifteenth,
and that'll be it'll be our last show at the
New Edge facility. And then we're looking at then used
to take it too, so hopefully we can get some
bigger draws, we get some bigger things and go forward
(54:35):
with that. So that's kind of what I got.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, yeah, dig it, Kevin got the old macho man.
Oh yeah on that one. Well that that show looks awesome, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I love Fight Club.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
I hope it fills up and you guys have to
turn people away because there's just before well great, I
hope that tradition continues. Fire Code Baby, fire codes there important.
At least that's what fire Marshall Bill said.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
That's what I've been told.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, I mean who listens to that nonsense sts. What
in the hell are you up to? And where in
the hell can these people find?
Speaker 4 (55:15):
You can find me at Twitch, dot dB, slash grun
Meister's under the same name on YouTube and kick where
I stream Friday seven pm Eastern my back name for
your review show Talking Everything in WWE and SmackDown Beautiful Grun.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Go out there and check out all what grun does.
Kevin Callaway, you.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Can find me. You can find me other than the
shows that I just promoted. You can find me at
Kevin Calloway on Facebook. You can find me at Callaway
Kevin on Instagram. I am streaming tomorrow. I have the
time blocked out and I have no idea what I'll
be streaming. Probably, honestly, I might a classic PlayStation one
because I've been playing through Legend Dragoon a lot recently
(55:58):
and I want to finish it, so I might play
a classic RPG. Maybe I'll play another Crabs Treasure and
that'll be an interesting turn of events. But I'll be
streaming that. I want to say, uh mid morning. Mid
morning is probably when I'll stream. Feeling a cup of
coffee stream I like it.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
You're also getting challenged.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Oh yeah, he's been trying to challenge me.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
You're not local, You're not in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Come on, well, you know he can book a flight,
so it could book a flight, but that doesn't make
him local talent. That doesn't make him local. Well if
he books a flight, stays there for thirty days, gets mailed,
then he's a local talent.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Perfect. Yeah, well get on that jet, Get on that jack.
Speaker 3 (56:43):
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(57:06):
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(57:26):
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He's been to a lot of wrestling shows and it
(57:48):
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That's where you can find me and anybody who's available
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(58:09):
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We'll do other things outside of that. If you like
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh dude, he shot him in the dick. Huh, that's
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
You don't shoot a guy in the dick.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'll rite friends and fans and household all around. It
is I the voice Joshua Joseph here on another Monday
Night Raw preview review show where we talk Monday Night Raw,
and I talk that with two of my close friends
from I y H. It is Kevin Callaway, the chaos goblin,
(01:25):
and Grownmeister, the blue eyed villain fighting out of a corner.
I kind of lost. I seen your glasses and you
look smart, so thank you throwing away No.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
No, yeah, I wear glasses when I'm sick or getting
over an illness.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
When he wants to magnify his blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, so since you made that statement, is there like
a particular reason you do these this one? You were
sick or.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Usually my eyes get really easily bothered during so ah,
so do that?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I mean? Plus, you know what it was?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It was from working hard because I'm trying to get
new opportunities at work and somebody say no, you don't
deserve new opportunities. You're going to get sick.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ah wanted to get new opportunities, so you want to
look smarter. I got it, day, I got it, or
more important than reality.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It could it could be window shields because he's trying
to get a raise. You can't be doing that to
your boss at work, Grun. Do you save that for
hotel rooms or their bedroom? So anyways, so Grun, how
have you been?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
How have you been?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Kevin? How's the week?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Ben?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We know Grun just got over being sick. We missed
just Sunday. We had a fun time. But you were
there in the chat in the spirit. Oh, there are
in the chat talking to about you, Grun and your
Glassessten talk about Grun. I fuck with you the chat instantly,
just they hype you up.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Man, It's it's funny you say fancy because these frames
are five years old.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh dude, I look like a tech guy.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Like you code, that's what you and yet coding is
definitely going to die.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Learn to code? No, no, no, get you kicked off
the internets.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I mean yeah, and now it's like, don't bother learning.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes, you have a eye for that, that's true. And
we got Nick tar Darrow jumping in our chats. He's
also well, he does what we do over there on
his uh his show. Him and his wife do a
great job over there on Friday nights. Go check them out.
That's Nick Nick's Club, Nick's Wrestling Club, Happy Hour, So
(03:55):
come join join everybody doing stuff. So how goes it? Guys,
We've had a lot of a lot of wrestling. We've
had a lot of discussions about different wrestling, different promotions.
We just had slam Aversary last night, and I believe Kevin,
did you get a chance to watch it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I didn't get a chance to watch it directly, but
I did keep up with the results and such, and
I've been active in the discord talking about it too
and what they could potentially be going for and anything
like that. I do want to go back and watch it.
There was a couple of things that interested me specifically,
and then there was a I saw all over the
(04:36):
place for old wrestling socials, Mustafa Ali's dive, and I
don't know if you guys caught it where it looked
like the security just bailed out on him. It did, legitimately,
it did. And I don't mean to sooke this fire
because Mustafa Ali went on record saying no, that's what
(04:57):
was planned for them to not be there so that
he could like hit and then land on his feet.
He overshot five, so worth noting at the start of
the program, like, hey, don't blame those security because I
jumped to that judgment too. So even I was kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Fooled when when I saw that, I gotcha.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm I'm glad Ali clarified it. So shout out to
that and shout out to him for being a real
one and making sure they'll get thrown under a bus.
I know how hard it is to be a young
guy in TNA.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It was. I thought it was a decent pay per
view pl whatever they call it over there. Yeah, yeah,
it was fun.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think they're still in the pay per view model, right, No, No,
they actually have a while ago they did start calling
them plees. Okay, so they are trying to They must
have changed the Oh they have a TNA app, don't they.
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
They might and there's that they were advertising whatever streaming
service they were advertising Freezio or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think a lot of their stuff is on there too.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well, Chat chief is in here, and he was just
an a rascal until he says something credible. I thought
it was what I caught of it. I got I
think an hour late after it started. I thought it
was a good uh good p l e. The the
(06:28):
ending not I really wanted Santana like he That match
was good. I enjoyed that match. It was a good
back and forth. But the the ending, and I fell
for it. I thought Trick actually got a little injured.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They played it off very well. And then it's like
he he just let those two do all the work.
And then the last ten seconds jumps back into the
ring after pretending he was injured. This full time jumping
back into the ring. They never gave them the X.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Sign, So I think that's genius. But I agree with what.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Chat's chief said in the in the discord, it's greedy
of the w W to me because they're not explaining
the story, like it's not developing it fast enough for
me to understand right now at this moment what they're doing.
Are they building up the TNA roster to revolt and
(07:34):
turn against the n XT roster? Uh to where there's
a faction versus faction? Like, where are we going with this?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I have I think that that's the point though, is
for us not to know what is like realistically.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, I I could see that. I can buy that.
Kevin now, grun you and your eyeballs?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What yeah? No? What if? Now?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Now we've been thinking about this, what if? What if
Survivor series isn't w W, What if it's WW versus
TNA wargames. TNA is pissed off that that WWE, NXT
and whoever else have taken their titles and now they're revolting.
(08:19):
They invade a WWE show the way all Colgan went
to do all those years ago. He never was gonna happen,
but today it happens. You have the system, you have
Joe Hendrew, you have Mike Santana, and I'm sorry, I
don't know all the women elegance, you have the frank Yeah,
(08:45):
Masha Masha Slamovich and countless like that. Like we were saying,
because I noticed Survivor series is called Survivor Series wargames,
so there's gonna have a war games match.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We were talking, No, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
This could make it, and this could make it completely
reasonable to do a war games match.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Crazy as I do think we are head to do
a TNA versus WWE something. They could be a whole
It could be a whole p L or a pay
per view like they could theme Bound for Glory completely
around it, and I think that that would work. It
would really well. So I don't think it'll be at
(09:26):
Survivor's Steeriers war game, but fuck grunt, I'd love for
that to happen. I don't think it'll be there, However,
I think it's very realistic to say it could be
Bound for Glory. It could be. Maybe.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
One of the big things that we, the w and
t KO have to keep in mind is that the
the birth rate is not as high as it used
to be in the United States, so less kids. So
will you gonna do who You're gonna appeal to? The
nineteen to forty five year olds probably watching. Okay, yeah,
(10:03):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
This is your demographic trying to appeal to you, guys,
so fucking geta he's about to tell you how to
keep him a fan forever.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You're gonna You're gonna You're gonna appeal to the people
that watched the DNA when they got bored with w
u E. You're gonna appeal to the people that saw
Rhino feud with Christian, the people that saw a g
styles rise truly to his full level of phenomenal. Well, uh,
he is fused with Kurt Angle Frank Kazarian pulling now
(10:36):
the best of Eric Young.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I disagree with this statement highly, not from your grun
but from Fighting's one. No, I don't think want to
put they have they have has gone over Hash.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Did when she was champ as well.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I mean they're they're good.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They're good, they are What if they did this, though,
so we've got I think this could be an interesting
way to go about it. I also think this is
within the realm of possibility. What if we did? Because
TNA is running their pay per views either on Fridays
or Sundays, it depends on when they want to run it. Basically,
what if we had a two day t NA versus
(11:34):
W like NXT. What if there was an n X
t p l E on one day and then they
have the TNA p l E on the next or
vice versa, and you can run it kind of as
a as a continuing and developing story through the two days,
almost like SummerSlam is where it's you know, two nights,
except it's more of whole corporations against each other, so
(11:57):
there's an overarching story throughout both nights, as opposed to
just like hey, this is the finale main event for
Summer Slam night one catch night too, where there's completely
separate stories and nothing the same will happen.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I like it, and chat chief Yeah, I was
thinking that to AJ just replaces Stone Cold in that
invasion story and from you have him over there.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I think you have style side with with TNA.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think we need to put a pin in this
one and we'll continue the conversation. Yeah, this is a
this is at TNA slammerversary bound for glory speculation. I
know you, yeah, you guys would just love to do that,
but we're putting a pin in it. Like we was
putting in here. We got a pin in it, all right,
(12:46):
So let's get to the meat and potatoes of this
show that we love and do. And uh, yes, Daniel Garcia,
you are correct. This is AJ's last run. He's uh,
he's getting ready to hang him up.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But uh, let's kick it off to who wants to
go first this week.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I would like to go first because we got an
interesting segment coming up here on Raw tonight, and that
is now after I'm guessing it's gonna happen after Lyra
and Bailey battle for the WE Women's Tag Team champions chips.
(13:25):
Becky has a proposal for Lyra for their Interconinal championship match.
My question is, what is the stipulation that is going
that these who are gonna that these who are gonna
fight in My guess at this moment is it's gonna
be when we haven't added while an iron Woman match.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I actually like that. I like that because as as
seen on SmackDown, Uh, Cody and Sena is going to
be a street fight, So that would be my first
go to for this match.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Thirty or sixty sixty minute, I think, but I want sixty.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I can I love a good six I'm looking Well, actually,
it depends on what night it is, because there's other
matches on the card that don't need a bunch of time.
So if you put the Iron Woman match sixty minutes
and you put it on the same show as like
Jade and Tiffany, Jade and Tiffany is probably gonna be
a hot fifteen to twelve. That's my gas because that's
(14:37):
probably about where Jade is, which is fine. You can
get a good match out of her and do that
that way. So if you're gonna put it on the
same night as that one, you take the time from
that match and put it into the time allotment for
the Iron Woman match. So, actually sixty I don't think
they've ranged out of sixty a lot when they do
(14:58):
an Iron Woman or Iron Man match, have they? I
don't do it often.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I would have to go back to see what was.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
There where it's just thirty minute, right.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I know that they do that something. I think they
usually do it when it's on TV and not pl
your paper.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, I think that's where that goes to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, and that makes more sense to me because well,
that's the time you have on TV.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
True, uh.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is a oh man, But yeah, I like Iron Women match,
especially because looking up and down the card, like, we
already have a steel cage match, and that's another personal issue, Solver.
We already have a street fight. Like I said earlier,
Helen us Sell is too close to steel cage, so
we're not going to do that. I don't think Plus,
(15:48):
how you're gonna hang out, Well, you can do it
on two different nights, but either way, I don't think
that that's what they're gonna do. You want something that's
going to be legally distinct, and I think, uh, I
think an Iron Woman match is good. Last Women Standing
would also work, just because it's at least different. First
Blood they don't like doing anymore, only because it's.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, they've painted themselves quite a corner with so they
might have to look at that one.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I'm aware they.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Crimson masks as well as Cody, so I imagine Becky.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, we're talking that First Blood matches are unpredictable in
this kind of scenario because it busted open at all
hard way without any playing.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, remember the giant band aid on Austin's head, and
they not that they haven't Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
They tried yeah, that and I think that's why they
shied away from first blood matches now, which I can't
say I blame them. It's snakes. Yeah, but yeah, I
think I think Iron Woman match would be a really
good stipulation for them. I think they've been doing what
like thirty minute matches anyway, so a thirty Iron Woman
match doesn't I don't think that really works as well,
(17:00):
only because it's not as traditional first off, which I
think some people will pooh pooh. But even without that,
if they're already having thirty minute classics with each other,
if you're just gonna do a thirty minute Iron Iron
Women match, like it's just kind of the same thing,
you're gonna expect one to two pinfalls, right, So if
we do sixty, I think we can get more out
(17:21):
of it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
So, just so you guys know, the last ten there
was an Iron Man a thirty minute Iron Man match
August fifth, twenty twenty one, on an episode of nxt
UK between a Kid and Jordan Devlin. Oh Women for
the Women December eighteenth, two thy sixteen. At roadblock.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
End of the line was that the Sasha Banks one.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It was Charlotte Flair and Sasha Banks.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Jeez, that's been that long.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, it's been almost ten years.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I think it realistically, if there's two women who can
do it on the roster and it makes sense, I
think it is these two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I like that bad idea too. I'm a I'm
a sucker for any type of sixty minute thirty minute match.
To me, the iron Man match was just made perfect
by Brett Hart. I mean just him in the way
(18:30):
Michaels could go in those matches. The amount of like
just pure emotion you can get out in those matches
from the fans and things like that I think really
really help a storyline, especially in this. I could just
see these two tearing the house down in a match
(18:53):
like this and really going for it and showing what
wrestling is and we can all chance wrestling when things up,
because I think that's where we're where we're leaning towards,
and I hope that's where they go.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Any other stuff on that grun that you need to
get in. I know that mine's been working since last Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, this is interesting because I'm reading the chat in
Fighting Sane iron Man. Isn't iron Man more of a
closer match, and yeah, kind of kind of is more
of a closer.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I could see that closer.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It can be. But also like I don't know, I
don't know if you guys remember these specific matches, but
like Ben Wahan, Angle did submission matches, submission iron Man matches,
and they were in the middle of the card.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
So it's been a while to see one of those.
That would definitely be interesting because that would give that
would be Becky putting her in an advantage since she
usually uses submissions.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That was another one.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
A submission match in general I think would be interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, when was the last time we did a falls
count anywhere I quit match?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Actually some.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Falls count where I went to damn.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I mean the best ones I remember is the
famous one of Mick Foley getting the uh fake I
quit being played over the kinder cup.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Actually don't that's a good question, Lou. I don't know
if a women's strap match has ever happened.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I hate strap matches and I.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Was quick aside, quick aside, I was in a I
was in a match and it was it was essentially
a strap match, but we did it with chains, so
we were handcuffed to each other or cuff to each
other with a set of chains. I hate these matches.
For two seconds weeks working with them. One I might
land on a chain and that sounds terrible. Yeah, so
(21:04):
there's that. Yeah, But two, unless you're careful, that ship
can break pretty easily. And if you break it, you're
no longer in.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
A strap mat No, you're you're kind of done with
that match.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You're done with the strap match. Had not happened. That
happened during ours. It was a it was a tag
team one too. So there's two sets of chains with
two people attached to each other, which is a logistical nightmare.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, nightmare.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
My chain and the other guy I was strapped to
stayed on the other one did not. And it was
just it was a it was an episode in insanity.
But they were just trying to clip it back on
and then it just kept breaking clip. It was the worst.
It was funny. It's a good story and a good
uh good memory, but I just like, what's happening.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I liken that to my favorite like horror movies that
are the independent horror movies, and you know you're just
there for a laugh, and uh, you know exactly, you
know where I'm coming from uh so, grin did you
find that?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Uh so Google?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
AI is saying there has never been a fall scout
anywhere I equit match. Now, it could be that it
has no idea what that means.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'm sure ECW's probably done some we back in the
nineties probably did a few.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They did it with the Rock and Man.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It was the Rock and mankind. So I think I
think it's how you're putting it in. Maybe anywhere matches
are always false count anywhere there are always okay always.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So then that's okay, Then that's it, and then let's.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I know, it's been a while since we've had an
equit match. I've not seen anybody be doing one of those.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean we have, we haven't had an I quit
in a little while.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't remember the last one.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Actually, I hopefully this is gonna tell me the last one.
I think this is no not all eat rest and
not t and A w CW fuck okay, AJ Cody Rhodes,
AJ Styles last year, Yeah, this was last year. The
last time we had one of those.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, we could have one for the women's I would
like that. I'm not I really don't want to do
the strap match and uh, chat chief what you're saying. No,
we just can't have that, and I can't show that.
I wish I could, but I can't because it's pretty
fucking funny.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Uh, it'll be a Bailey on a pole match and
it'll just be her sitting up there shouting at them.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
That could be entertaining too. I mean, look what it
goes to Dom's career.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, we'll go full Judy Judy bag while on a forklift.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Speaking of that, buff bagwell, hope you recover and your
spirits stay high and you realize that there's there's still
a lot more the world can do with buff Bagwell,
even with only one leg, my friend, and I'm glad
the pain.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I'll tell you what if if def Leopard's drummer can
drum with one hand, buff bagwell can do whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, and if you're lucky, a skateboarder out there will
make a trick after it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
They did the deaf Leopard drummer crying. It was a
pretty cool trick. I enjoyed it, all right. So Kevin,
do you want to go last or are you ready
to go with yours?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'll go with mine just in case we have some
discord questions we want to get to or anything. I
don't know that mine will be too long, only because,
like we talked about these guys when we were live
watching it, because they happen to have a match, and
I'm interested where I think at least one of these
guys goes after this. But they've been having quietly a
(25:03):
nice feud on raw is Seamus and RUSSEV. They're gonna
have another match tonight. I believe. My assumption is that
Seamus has to get a win at some point, and
it might be tonight. Uh, But I'm very curious where
they because they brought Rusef back in, and I do
believe there's there's some decent money behind him. He's a
(25:24):
big dude. He can do things believably. He can have
these matches with Seamus, And usually what happens is people
who work with Seamus then go on to hopefully get
into something else after they've had a night, after they've
had a nice feud. It's not one hundred percent, but
that's just true with everything. So I just wanted to
talk a little briefly about the Shamus and Russef feud.
(25:47):
How we're feeling about it, how we're going from there,
and then maybe what's next on the horizon for Ruv
because it seems like they've brought him back, but it's
kind of it's taken a back seat to some other stuff,
and that's true with a lot of WWE. But what
are some potentials we could do with Russef? I guess.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I First, I love what they're doing with him and Seamus.
I think those two together is money. It's magic. They
they know how to push each other in a match,
and that's exactly what you expect when you see either
one of those names on the card, let alone in
the same match. Outside of that, for Rusef, h I
(26:32):
I would, honestly I would love to see him and
Breaker go at it. I think him and him and
Breaker could have some great matches. I think though, that
Russf needs to go against guys that kind of put
him in breakers view from his eyesight, because it wouldn't
(26:52):
make sense for him to just go up there and
you know, like pick a fight, either one of them
pick a fight with each other. Like at this point,
it just doesn't seem logical right now, I see fighting
with one saint Drew McIntyre. To me, this is the
(27:13):
you either you go with a guy who is like
Seamus and he's a brute, he's gonna give you a
big beefy match with Rusif, or you put him with
a guy like Drew who's gonna give him a psychological match,
and it's gonna be more uh psychology, and then a
(27:36):
probably a big brutal match too. So for me, they're
they're Drew and Seamus on a on a stat sheet
are kind of the same character in a sense. So
to me, if if Rusif went to Drew McIntyre right
after this, it would just be a side movement as
(27:58):
opposed to an upwards movement or downwards movement. Am I
wrong in this or.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I don't. I think it would be tough to do
a Russef Drew McIntyre as well, and like a couple
other ones, just because I feel Rusef does best when
it's either he can have the matches where they're just
gonna go out there and murder each other. But the
other match that he's really good at to me is
the David Verus Goliath match where he's the bigger guy
(28:28):
and he faces someone who's smaller nick right there. That
was my guess is Penta and Russif I think he
goes into Penta okay, and I think it keeps both
of them. It keeps both of them relevant, It keeps
both of them going, It keeps them in a nice
feud where they can have nice matches together. They can
go win for win, and it doesn't hurt either guy.
(28:49):
They don't need to do. As long as Penta like
knocks one off of Russev convincingly, Rusef can win another
two and it won't matter. As long as Penta wins
in the last one. I think would be fine because
then Penta can take that momentum. But Rusf also elevated
from it. Uh. I think I think Russef needs a
guy to throw around. I think that's where they will
(29:11):
go after this with him, because Seamus has showed Seamus
has elevated the fact that Rusef can murder someone because
he's going to hurt them. Right, So, now that you've
established this, you can have that person go from Seamus
to a smaller dude because he's going to murder him,
because it's already psychologically in our head.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I like that. I like that and Nick was also
grun before we get your answer on this question. He
wanted to throw this one out there. Who does Seamus
win the Icy title from? You know, it's eventually happening,
he has to.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
If he is, it's it's it's gonna be freaking out
if if Seamus is going to win, if he is,
because at this point I don't know if he is
or isn't anymore. If he is, it's probably going to
(30:11):
be Obam, I think, because I think at that point
you'll Oba Wolf had a good enough run on as
Icy champion and Ova losing to Seamus doesn't hurt him.
It just makes him stronger, just makes him work harder,
(30:32):
and then you can go with Oba Femi versus Gunther
for the World typeweight championship.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Man, you are putting Oba already in championship.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Matches, honestly, that's probably what they're gonna do, is put
him into higher ranks quickly.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Is such a.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Beast he is. I think they need it just a
quick side for Nick's here. He's probably going after stand
and deliver, is my guest. I think he'll be down
there for a while longer I don't think they want
to make the same mistake with Trick or Oba that
they have in the past, where they're bringing people up
(31:16):
without a plan, and especially someone like Oba, if you
bring him up without a plan, it's gonna hurt him
a lot. Whereas like Trick, he could recover. I think
if they didn't have a big, big plan, Oba is
a guy that I don't think he can recover as well,
because he needs to be presented quickly as a monster.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Hold On, Nick was saying, uh, I would put Zilafato
on the main before Oba at this point.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Just because of his last name.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
No, I think he would fit into storylines quicker. Sure,
so if we're just talking about before, uh, I guess
only because he could slot into anything that Solo is
doing right now, literally anything. And I actually I don't
disagree with that opinion either. I think Trick and Mellow
(32:12):
together as heels and as a similar stature heel instead
of Trick as you know, the young boy. I think
that that as a team would work really really well.
But I don't want to see it. And I was
talking to this earlier with chat Chief. I don't want
to see it. At the same time as street profits
are still a team. I want to see street profits
(32:34):
break up so that they can do whatever they want
to do singles, while Trick and Mellow come together and
then form another team because I think there their stuff
overlaps too much from a from a gimmick perspective. Yeah,
and I think that that would be a problem once next,
(32:57):
I agree with what makes sense. Yeah, I always agree
with what makes sense?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Uh grun, What is your thoughts on what Kevin brought
to us about Russef? Uh Russef?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think Wall.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'm running through my head and I'm like, in theory,
it looks it would be a good idea to put
Kevin or carry across with Russef. But at the same time, like,
this is not the right time, this is not the
right scenario, This doesn't help, this doesn't help carryon, and
this doesn't help Rusef.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So why do that?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I don't know what you do with Russef. I'm glad
that he's back. I want to hear him in the
ring or cut more vignettes saying how he's going to
redeem people, explain how he's going to redeem people. That's
more what I want to see from Russef.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I want to you want to see him cut the
promo of comet come on you like God's Wrath? Yes,
I loved. I loved the Redeemer. Yeah, you loved when
it come on you like God's Wrath.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I was surprised you didn't get that the first time
he went around. I fucking went back for seconds and
he was like this, what, Grun, You're gonna fucking get
this joke if I have to beat it into work
second time round, Grun, there you go, Budd.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
All right, all right, I joke saw me as always,
but I don't disagree.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
With you jokes aside. I don't disagree with you. I
really like the Redeemer stuff, and I don't think it
came to full like it didn't come to full fruition
in ae W. Yeah, for whatever reasons it was. It's
not even worth getting into. But the Redeemer Russeph would
work and it still has legs.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It would yeah, yeah, Kaiser, Russ yeah, money yeah, I
agree that Kaiser and Rusive would say.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I think the problem is we're pitching a lot of
people who are heels versus heels. Yes, and that is
a I think that would be a problem because Russif,
I think, needs to get over more as the monster
heel and the guy who can beat people down. And
I think Seamus is elevating that fact. But then he
needs someone who he can run through a little bit,
not like a long feud, maybe like a month month
(35:16):
and a half where he just kind of dominates somebody.
Then he can go into someone who's smaller but can
stick up for the smaller guys.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
That would what if Rudis is that guy that Shame's
can run through. Gives Rudis some more time as a
solo though he doesn't need to win the matches, but
you can probably have a.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Goofi or heel too. Yeah, I think that that would work.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
M I like that. I like the Russif plan we
have going on. I just hope they do something something
with substance with him, because I've always loved Rusif. I'm
there with you, grun come all over me. Ah, you know,
say look there now we're joke brothers.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I do think aj Styles might beat Domits or Slam though,
because I think they want. I think they might want
the Icy title to make an appearance in TNA.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That might be a fun thing that might do that great.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I think if AJ wins it, he's got to make
it the white the white belt, He's got to do
this one belt yeah style and just come into I
mean just seeing that in TNA and I want to
we're my my subject is going to be what what
we were talking about in discord. We're going to bring
the discord in for my subject. But before we we
(36:32):
dive into that, I want to say, Uh, we did
find out that the Dudley Boys will be having one
more match, and uh, this is going to be fun.
It's going to be a nostalgic. This is going to
be something that we can.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I'm going to be hoping. I'm going to be hoping
for a lot of hoping for a lot of things.
As a as a former ten year old kid, I'm
going to be hoping for a dope Herty's and Dudley's matches.
As a thirty five year old wrestler, I'm gonna be
hoping that nobody dies.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
But either way, it's going to be fantastic, you know
what I mean. I think it's going to be safe
for these guys. Divon. I don't think he would get
into a ring unless it was absolutely safe for him.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
About the Heartys.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, yeah, they looked a little rough. I'm not sure
why they decided to put the titles back on them
after they just lost them, But I don't know. I'm
not following TNA. I was just completely enjoying the product
as it was. So that that's where we're at with that.
(37:45):
Now let's jump into our discord portion in which we're
going to use that for my subject and uh, because
pretty much it was similar to what I was going
to talk about. We had our boss House himself, Alacan House, asking, Uh,
(38:05):
he would like to hear what we think of Roman,
what you guys think Roman will do tonight?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
So they do.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I'll throw this out there just so we know it
is reporting the Roman reigns is specifically going to address
Paul Hayman, okay Worth noting.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
My assumption throughout this, I don't know how he's gonna
address Paul Hayman. There are multiple avenues he could take
with that. There's also multiple avenues depending on Seth's involvement
in any way. If he happens to be there in
a wheelchair or whatever, selling an injury, you know, just
to be there holding the breath whatever the fuck. End
(38:53):
game of Roman's appearance tonight, to me is to set
up Roman and Jay versus Bron and Braun. That's the
end game. I'm not quite sure how they get there.
I do believe that because Roman was the one standing
last week, Bron and Bron will be the one standing
this week. So Roman will get taken out, Jay will
(39:17):
get taken out. That's how the match will get set up,
and Paul Hayman will be the one to challenge them,
is my assumption.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Hmm, okay, I could see that with him. Uh my
thoughts on what Roman if he's addressing Paul, I would
assume that he's going to be He's gonna go at
it in that the Roman reigns try to beat the
(39:49):
hell out of people before he gets his answers. And
I think it's gonna get to a point to where
Bron and Braun do get Roman down, and uh but
I I think it's gonna be Hayman the last one standing.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
And just because I like the visual of Roman down,
Bron and Bron down and Hayman clutching, clutching that the
this briefcase in the middle of the ring and looking
because he did this, this is on the blood of
(40:24):
what happened to Roman and see him punk is on
Hayman's hands. Seth may have, he may have dealt out
the actions, but hey, we all know Hayman is the
mastermind exactly. So without him this doesn't get orchestrated and
put out the way it did so for me, I
(40:46):
because he represents Bron and Braun. So I think you
get that where we're looking at. But I don't know
how they get to that moment, but there has to
be some Maybe they put him through a table, maybe
somebody comes, maybe Jacob, you know, flies out. Maybe who
knows what happens with this moment, but I don't know.
(41:11):
Something like when you were first speaking about it, Kevin,
that was just stuck in my head was just Hayman's
standing looking at all the devastation and clutching that briefcase
because I think they need to make that briefcase almost
the star of the group right now.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I think Hayman ends up the start of the group
at this point. So not to take away from the
Bron and Bron part, but I think you're right, Hayman
is the centerpiece of this group. It isn't especially with
Seth out seth didn't feel like the mastermind ever. It
(41:48):
always felt like Hayman because he was the one intertwined
in all of the people from Mania. Yeah, so Hayman
is the centerpiece of this group, and it's basically focused
around he screwed over his two friends so that he
could go this way because fuck those people. That's essentially
how it's been framed. So I'm hoping with Roman here
(42:12):
we get a little bit of explanation from Paul and
the Roman end of it, because we got some for
the Punk end of it because they had a promo
back and forth, but we we really haven't gotten anything
from the Roman end of it. Nope, it hasn't been
a lot of explanation on that front. So I'm I'm
looking forward to them because both of them are very
good promos. Roman is much better these days than the
(42:35):
days of the Big Dog.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
You are one on that one.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
There's a wild variety of difference from the time that
Sina cooked him on a mic and almost killed his career.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, almost nuped his career.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Night and day. So I'm looking forward to Roman and
Paul sparring on the mic and giving us that explanation
that we need that a lot of people have been
craving because the confusion can't keep happening in the group.
And I think we're gonna start getting answers, but we're
just at that point where if we don't start getting answers,
we're gonna start getting a little antsy about everything.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I think now I'm they've in uh you know, pervert terms.
They've edged us to the point of a completion here,
and we're hopefully, I really do hope we get that
that angle with those two and we figure out exactly
what was behind Paul's brain in this. Why would you
(43:36):
do this and go against Roman? Grun? What you got
any thoughts on this one?
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I I think what we're going to hear is Roman
expected his wise man to keep the family in order?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Is what do say? Wise man? You failed me?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
You let Solo take Maulafalla, you let all this happen.
Hayman is gonna say, let him? How could I stop him?
You the tribal chief, were not here to keep the
family in order. You abandoned me. Yeah, this is going
(44:26):
to be a very much it's gonna be very much
blaming each other, but both are gonna have valid points
as to why why things went the way they did
night they both Roman talk this tale between his legs,
went home and didn't know what to do. Paul Hayman
wasn't ballsy enough to take control from Solo. So I
(44:55):
definitely can see this leading to a tag team match.
There will ever ever be a last dog in the
hard match.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
It should be I like it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I don't like it, Vince. It probably won't have dog food. Yeah,
but here's the.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Thing, it's so be sponsored by Michael Vick.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
It sounds like the only way to win that match
is to toss your opponent over the top rope and
it's a one on one battle royal.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
No, that's the Bob Barker rules. You get Spader Neuter
at the end of it. Dang, that's how you lose.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
You win by putting a collar on your opponent, with
a shot collar. Oh. I like the change.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You get to walk them around for a week.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
To literally dog walk them.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
After that, look at this big dog, Grundmeister, Look at that.
You're getting that grin? People are.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I do think this might set the stage for war games.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think it's probably pop in the chat.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I think the two possibilities that I'm seeing right now
for war games, at least on the men's side is
either the Hayman Group versus a coalition of people or
Solo and his group against Fatu and whoever. Those are
(46:22):
the two that I can see. There's a lot of
time in between now and war games, so any of
that could change, but those are the only two that
I feel are slowly burning to that moment. I think
I think it's stronger if you do the the Hayman
Group personally, because you're involving so many people in it already.
(46:45):
You have La Knight, who's already involved in it. You
have Penta who's already involved in it. Sammy's getting taken
out of it by Carrion Cross, so I doubt he
gets reinserted, which is probably good for Sammy to be
away from it quite frankly, Yeah, and it's good for
Cross to have a few that keeps going. Yeah. Then
(47:07):
you have Jay Usso, who doesn't have too much going
on right now, so this gives him something important to do.
And then of course you have Roman Reigns and you
have c him Punk see him Punk assumingly, if if
our assumptions are correct, will be cashed in on probably
by that time by Seth Rollins. So then you have
(47:27):
the world champion Seth Rollins in the match with his henchmen,
potentially with two other people, maybe not in the group,
but like kind of like how Solo did it with
Bronson Reid. The year that they did that, was that
just last year? Yeah? I think it was just last year. Yeah,
you have them in that match as kind of mercenaries.
(47:51):
I think they still might add a fourth to to
Rollins's little little coalition. I just don't know who it
would be. That's the key. I've always heard like slight
rumblings of Austin theory, but like I think he would work.
I just don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
That group.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Oh I know he would.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
He would pop so hard in that group too.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Austin theory is the one big I could I go
on a grant about Austin theory and the dropped ball
because he was the Vince guy that was the old
He's like the only Vince Guy that Triple Ah looked at.
He's like maybe not.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I I wanted to be Logan. If I'm being honest,
I like it like Logan the attitude Logan is best
served elsewhere though, because it seems like he's starting this
like feud against other celebrities, against the mainstream people coming
in even though he's the main the classic heel of like, hey,
I don't like outsiders.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Even though he's an outsider, so like he was one
of the ultimate. I think it's great because then you
can just have Logan Paul work with a bunch of
celebrities and it works every time. Yeah, I don't hate
him in the group though, in fairness, but I kind of.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
He does fit the dynamic. But I do see exactly
where you're coming from, and with with the main storylines
and then the the B storyline C storylines, I think
he's more profitable over there because he's going to have
to pull back if he's in with them, and at
(49:30):
this point, I kind of don't want him to pull back,
especially after that promo with Jelly Roll, like that's gold,
and you don't want to stop gold being made if
it's being made. So yeah, but you're you're one that
his mentality would fit right in with that group, and
I think they they could have some fun with that,
(49:52):
especially his little cutting comments towards his own team. I
think that would be fun him telling Bronson and he's
got to lose some pounds and get in the shape.
Would be a little humorous to me.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Chief, I might have a good prediction for the for
the war games actually, and also Logan Paul Ver's Netflix
would be hilarious, dude, Yeah, there we go me, uh,
because that would give Cross something important to do while
still involving someone who like Sammy, who was already there.
(50:26):
You don't have to put Penta in this. You could
put pent in something else, and I think he might
be served better there too, anyway. Yeah, and then you
just add one more to seth Rollins's group, and I
think that that works. That's a that's a good prediction.
I think I'm gonna hold onto that one. Chat Chief,
I think that's a good one, all right. I like it.
(50:47):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Chat Chiefs getting over with this crowd. Uh, he's pretty
good at it. And we are nine minutes away before
Raw Goos Live fans. So if there's any quick questions
anything you need to uh clear up with this bearded
brigade for Raw, let us know real quick, because we
got nine minutes we're gonna end this ship.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
What a time to be alive?
Speaker 3 (51:14):
What a time to be alive. That is exactly it.
We're going to end the show with the new commercial
for our Brainbuster t line. We are going to be
adding more designs and more of the content creators their
own little personal things on there. So but for what
(51:35):
we have now, we're going to give you that and
let you, if you want, go out there and support
iy H. Brainbuster T's. That's where we live, and that's
where you can get the merch of the Voice Jones,
divinely designed Annie O'Neil and IYH merch. Like I said,
(51:57):
we are going to be adding a grunline. We will
probably be adding something to do with Kevin. We know, Kevin,
you're an independent wrestler, so you obviously make your money
doing things like that. So, uh well, we'll we'll talk
about that.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I haven't had merch in a very long time. No this,
I live as a heel and I'm an old school heel.
I don't go out and sell merch when I'm a hell.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Well, and you know what, that's a great thing that
Kevin brought up, because Brainbuster Tea, you don't got to
go to the show. You could just go to the
website and you can buy it there and nobody will
ever know Kevin sold your merch. There's always ways around
if if the grun line is free.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
I think that's us. I think they decide.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
I think yeah, And I don't think they let that route.
That's just not something I think they do. All right, Kevin,
you got you got something coming up that you dropped into.
I yeah, let's pull that up and give us some
explanation on this.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
keV up on Sunday at the Sanctuary in ham Trammick
is Sanctuary Fight Club Detroit. It's got a lot of
good talent on there, as you can see. Jody Threat,
It's got Zeko, It's got Ryan Matthias, Ray Larson, the Starman,
Harley Harley, rock rowhat Raju, Joe Coleman, Joe Tomorrow, all
(53:30):
of these people like they can they can go. And
it's a great show every single time, sells out almost
every single time. Small venue, punk rock, feel crowds, the ring.
Drinks are cheap in ham Trammick, so there's that too.
And man, just it's got a lot of good actions.
One of my favorite shows to be a part of.
(53:51):
And I can't speak enough good about this, and they
are they're affiliated also with Lucha Boom, which I work
close with, and a lot of the talent that you
see here ends up on those shows as well. And yeah,
coming off of a oh yeah, coming off a successful
title defense, I don't have the title here with me.
Head last Friday, I'll I'll have another defense of that
(54:15):
and another open challenge so that one of these young
boys can come up and try and step to me.
I'll have another defense of that, I believe August fifteenth,
and that'll be it'll be our last show at the
New Edge facility. And then we're looking at then used
to take it too, so hopefully we can get some
bigger draws, we get some bigger things and go forward
(54:35):
with that. So that's kind of what I got.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, yeah, dig it, Kevin got the old macho man.
Oh yeah on that one. Well that that show looks awesome, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I love Fight Club.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
I hope it fills up and you guys have to
turn people away because there's just before well great, I
hope that tradition continues. Fire Code Baby, fire codes there important.
At least that's what fire Marshall Bill said.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
That's what I've been told.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, I mean who listens to that nonsense sts. What
in the hell are you up to? And where in
the hell can these people find?
Speaker 4 (55:15):
You can find me at Twitch, dot dB, slash grun
Meister's under the same name on YouTube and kick where
I stream Friday seven pm Eastern my back name for
your review show Talking Everything in WWE and SmackDown Beautiful Grun.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Go out there and check out all what grun does.
Kevin Callaway, you.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Can find me. You can find me other than the
shows that I just promoted. You can find me at
Kevin Calloway on Facebook. You can find me at Callaway
Kevin on Instagram. I am streaming tomorrow. I have the
time blocked out and I have no idea what I'll
be streaming. Probably, honestly, I might a classic PlayStation one
because I've been playing through Legend Dragoon a lot recently
(55:58):
and I want to finish it, so I might play
a classic RPG. Maybe I'll play another Crabs Treasure and
that'll be an interesting turn of events. But I'll be
streaming that. I want to say, uh mid morning. Mid
morning is probably when I'll stream. Feeling a cup of
coffee stream I like it.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
You're also getting challenged.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Oh yeah, he's been trying to challenge me.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
You're not local, You're not in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Come on, well, you know he can book a flight,
so it could book a flight, but that doesn't make
him local talent. That doesn't make him local. Well if
he books a flight, stays there for thirty days, gets mailed,
then he's a local talent.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Perfect. Yeah, well get on that jet, Get on that jack.
Speaker 3 (56:43):
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guess what we do It every Monday and it's at
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(57:06):
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(57:26):
It's me and House watching ECW. We just did a
fantastic one with night Wing. It was a great one
we did. We watched November to Remember nineteen ninety nine,
the second half of it. We broke it up into
two parts and we had a great time with our
UK friend Nightwing, and we learned a lot like that dude.
He's been to a lot of wrestling shows and it
(57:48):
was it was a great time to find more about
the fans. Outside of that, it's Sunday, it's a house party.
That's where you can find me and anybody who's available
in the household and we talked wrestling. Last week was
a fun one. We had the young one, elajahwan on
and he he's getting really good at this podcasting game.
(58:09):
Starting to think maybe him and House are starting a
secret society over there and they're gonna cut all of
us out. But if they do, you're gonna get great
content and we'll be in our basements just crying, wishing
we were still with Age. But we'll move on. We'll prosper.
We'll do other things outside of that. If you like
to get weird. It's me, it's your friend, your local voice.
(58:31):
You can come get weird with me, Vikingstrom and our
young Jamie herself Luna. When we go to the Seas
of Conspiracy, Yeah, that's Conspiracies at Sea. That's where we
start talking. And this Saturday we are going to talk news.
So we've been away from the microphones from Conspiracies at
Sea for a while and there's been a lot of news,
(58:53):
so we're just gonna bombard it and talk to you.
So come bring your favorite substances and let's talk get weird.
It'll be fun. That's usually eight pm on a Saturday
night whenever we go live, So click the likes, subscribes
and all that and turn on those notifications because then
you'll figure out when we're live. So for me, for Kevin, Callaway,
(59:15):
for Grundmeister, I think we'll see you guys next time.
That's next Monday at seven by Brainbuster me your website
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