January 12, 2025 • 25 mins
Jasmine Bhasin on Overcoming Judgement & Empowering Women | Women Beyond the Judgement Ep. 5. Actress Jasmine Bhasin joins Anku Goyal on Women Beyond the Judgement to share her personal journey of overcoming judgment and understanding how women navigate societal expectations. 🎙️
From heartfelt anecdotes to empowering insights, Jasmine’s story is a must-watch for anyone striving to rise above judgment and embrace their true self. ✨
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think I look at my journey and I feel
really proud of myself. You know, I stepped over it
because as a child, while growing up, I was always
judged for the way I'm loving and honestly. One thing,
you know, we all should know that when you are
true to your work and you're honest and you know
how to bring everybody in harmony so that your productive,
but everybody loves you and everybody else, you going to
(00:22):
at least every woman to keep everybody happy. We have
to be a little faint, you know. And if this
had a logu po hurt, the soup hurt.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much, Jasmine for your time for in
their podcast. It's a real pleasure to have you with us.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Same, Yeah, pleasure is mine. I'm quite excited. What are
we going to talk about?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So, if you're going to talk about something, I think
you have always stood up for it, that is to
grow beyond judgment. I think you're one of the few
people we know in industry and the celebrated world, you know,
who's always been so real. You've been called someone very
frank out there real, So I think it's always because
you might have grown beyond the judgment of not judging
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others and maybe not taking the judgment too easily. So
I want to start with that. What was the last
judgment up until you came in satire? Who ja, that's human?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
See, I am somebody who never judges anybody for anything.
From where we are coming. I believe everybody has a journey,
and we a certain way because of our journeys, and
we should never judge because it's the circumstances that you know,
shape us the way we are. So the last person
to ever judge anybody judgment.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
See, we live in an Asian society where we are
bound to be judged because we are women. It's it's
and every minute you know, you can.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
See somebody having the looking with you from the corner
of their eyes, trying to judge you. Just because you're
a woman, you're supposed to behave in a certain way.
And that happens to all of us every minute, at
the moment we step out.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What was the last moment you felt?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So? Uh, I've been around family so recently though nothing last.
I think I was traveling because I've been traveling a
lot on a fly and I was very busy with
like my two phones and this and that. So a
guy came up to me and asked me, you know
(02:42):
you look like a very busy person. You have to
two phones. And I was like, was he sitting and
judging me throughout that? You know? What do I do?
What kind of a profession I have in just because
I have two phones? And I was like, I think
you should mind your own business because you're in a
queue to both the fly and it was judging me
throughout that. You was like, no use, come across like
(03:04):
you have two people? What does this even mean? Like
what is going on in your head? Is because a
woman is taking a late flight and she's busy, occupied
with things. So I don't know what all he had
in his mind.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But you're right, you know, Jasmine, you gave us a
lead there to understand. If I look at your journey,
you've been out there, way outspoken about it was not easy.
I mean just because today you've made it, you have
got opportunity you could and cash it. It has never
been easy for you up until now. You still yourself there.
Can you tell me how do you relate to your journey?
(03:38):
If I have to say, do you look at your
journeys like I've struggled through. It's been a struggler's journey
because being a woman, we all know we always accused
victim card kyo women. Okay, but you have had your journey,
it is your own. How do you define it? Was
it a struggler one? Was it good? You were content
with it? So from your journey, how do you define that? Like,
how do you look at your journey?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I think I look at my journey and I feel
really proud of myself because I never cared about what
others say, others think. At a very early age, I
realize that, you know, I am responsible for my own life.
My success and my failures are both my responsibility. You know,
(04:22):
nobody is going to come and you know, be my
support system. People will come and give me sympathy, they'll
really provide me their shoulder to cry on, but nobody
is going to be a part of this journey the
way I want it to be. So I never cared
about anybody. Whatever imperfections and flaws also I had. I
(04:43):
always owned them because I think it's the best way
to approach your life that you know, own it and
accept it whatever you think the flaws that you have,
because nobody is perfect true that, and the society and
people around us will always be judging us. Okay, even
(05:05):
if I do something right, I'll be judged if I
do something wrong. Oh my god, then becomes a big thing.
So then it's better. I just concentrate on my dreams,
my ambitions, and my goals and blogged myself from everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Part so nice to hear this from you, because we
almost find you're not so filtered out. But then your
thoughts are so filtered, so I think it just balances out.
But we'll play this quick thing, not a game, just
a thought that you can share with us in an
anecdote form. Is the moment that you stepped beyond judgment
in your childhood days? A co incident, judge Kiah, was
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time in your childhood days, any memory and he just
stepped over it or you failed to step over it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, I stepped over it because as a child, well,
growing up, I was already judged for the way I looked. Okay,
I was already steady for you. No, But while growing
up as a child, I was always made to feel
that I'm not DM ugly am duck. I have so
many acns and you know, just the skinniest girl in
(06:13):
the school. I was always judged for it, but you know,
it never stopped me because I then I capt judge
hook improver to Jato. You know, as a child in school,
you stop participating in activities and things that happened, and
you're not an active student as a child. Also, those
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judgments never bothered me. I knew, okay, they all make
fun of the way I look. You know, as a
teenager when you're growing up, everybody starts dating there and
we start understanding the process of you know, this boy
likes this girl, and nobody liked me because of my look.
But that never bothered me. I had great set of
friends I would enjoy. I was always in the front
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row when there were any activities being planned. There were
events that it was fo curricular activities, my studies. I
never felt that I lacked anything. You know, I never
led you.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
To not feel so, because it is very common if
so much of suppression and judgment comes, but normally to
feel secluded or introvert, or pylon or take revenge, you know.
So what worked for.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What worked for me is see, I've always had this
attitude and also it comes to me from my mother
you know, my mother always raised me in a way
where she just told me, you think about yourself, you
do your good, you be your right, and you know,
don't let anybody else's opinions stop you. Like for example,
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I'll tell you a small incident. We used to go
to a good dwara everyday evening. It was a routine,
and we used to pass on like really lonely lane
and I started observing a guy used to look at
me very weirdly. So I told my mom as a child,
I got intimidated, or let's take another route, you know.
She asked me why I still remember it because it
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made a huge change to my life. So then she
told me why So I told her because of this
guy and I feel uncomfortable. I think, I don't know
what you're judging us or what what is wrong? So
my mom said, you'll meet a lot of people who
will judge you, who will intimidate you in your life.
How many you're not supposed to do that with their
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opinedions and you know, judgments. You need to go and
face it what is wrong. And she took me and
that was the first incident where she taught me how
to face it and not change my part, but rather
be on it without bothering about anything else.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
There's such a strong inspiration and you took it in
the right manner, because that's pretty strong. Also in the industry,
now that we see our recent movie Honeymoon in Panjavi industry,
how is the whole space been to work in different industry,
different language. You worked in South films also, so can
you tell me how has your transition been or experience
(09:08):
been in different industry in the different state to say so,
not industry, I won't call it a transition.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'll just call it experience. I see, I started from
South and I was very young. I was nineteen, I
was twenty. I didn't know anything. So that was my
learning period. That is where I learned. It was a
schooling time for me. And then I came to Bombay.
We to television and Opunjabi industry. My experience was fabulous.
People were so warm, so loving and honestly. One thing,
(09:38):
you know, we all should know that when you are
true to your work, when you're honest and you know
how to bring everybody in harmony so that your product
is but everybody loves you and everybody helps you because
at the end of the day, everybody's working hard to
make a good product. And if you know how to
get along with people and be honest to your work,
people appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But how do frient was adjustment because there is a
kind of opinion about South films are so different today
odd is kind of balanced it out. Now you see
Panjabi every industry, every state. Films are respected equally, rather
larger than life. So do you think you've stepped in
the right time. You're lucky for that because up to
poor environment change over Apparently it was very much. Oh
(10:19):
you've just worked in South film, You've not worked in
North films for your TV celebrities, So how things have played.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
For you personally? These differences? Hey in say, because I
wanted to work I am an artist. I got apportunately
down South. I did that. I got a portunity television.
I gave my best I got opportunity for my Punjabi film.
I did it for me. It that taboo of our
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television actor. I have always been meto artists or whatever.
I will always do it. It doesn't matter to me. And
trust me, right is a very very good time because
if you make a good thing, if your content is good.
People will get recognition, you will get validation, people will
love you, and it's going to be everywhere, and the
(11:09):
time is very good and I'm lucky that many posts
sustained or survived. Yeah, it's time for job where you
know as artists, I have multiple platforms, and.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I think you've excelled. And you've also set a bar
for people who stuck or get stuck in taboo and
use it. Key, I didn't have opportunity. You excelled in
every where you stepped in, so you have set opportunity. Yeah, yeah,
I think you have raised bar for every places you've
been in. But there's one thing that women always face
difficulty is we have identified as saying no. How often
you have phased difficulty in saying no. I'll give you
(11:41):
a situation, say a no to a film or a
offer which you genuinely felt it was not great. How
difficult was it for you?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It was not at all difficult for me, because it's
worked for me. Yes, I cannot be dishonest to my
work if I don't like it. No means no. I'll
be very honest and I clearly blood you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Know, okay, saying no to a proposal from a guy
because you're so sweet. I don't think you're very rude
to anyone. So has it been difficult? Have you ever
gone in that situation?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We had to say, I have been in that situation
multiple times, but I see them very sweet. You see,
it's a nice thing that you know, I'm loved and
somebody likes me and wants to be with me. So
why to get rude? So I would say politely, sorry,
this is not possible. I'm reely sweet of you, but
it can't happen. I say no easily.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I quite expected you to be very polite in that
say no to an outfit that you wanted to wear,
or you just felt like there's under the pressure because.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, I can't hear your network.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
An know that you have to say to the out
is mine fluctuating? You can hear me, now, you can't
hear me? Am I not audible?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Now I can hear you? But last twenties, yeah, last
twenty six.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So the third situation is saying no to a costume
or outfit, even if you were all in alignment, alignment
with the director, but you have to say no to
something the dialogue script, costume.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Anything, yes, very easily. See, I am not the person
who will do only anything, which I don't want to
share as an anecdote because we always think it is
very difficult for artists to in that situation to you know,
take their own cost See the anecdote is as an artist,
screenpay a perform my best in a screenpay title. Oh
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she was not happy with the costume, or she was
not happy with this or that. So you have to
take a stand. You have to say, no, this is
what I want to wear, this is all I want
to look. And if I feel confident, I perform confidently,
I perform well, and then only the entertainment will happen.
So just you have to take a stand for yourself.
What is a no is a no? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think you have to be confident of what you want.
And one thing that we want to play a very
short game with you is judge the world. We have
done a survey and you want to know your answer,
and how close you are to the answer, then we
have a small hamp over you. So we had done
a survey on women are judged on their looks more
than men. Obviously, yes, yes, okay, can you rate it
(14:20):
in the percentage because we have a survey in the
percentage of one hundred. How much do you think women
are judged more on their looks than men?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I would say ninety percent.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Nice, I think you're very much closed. It was ninety
five percent for the survey.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Women are because I think everybody judges us for even
if we sneeze and oh she stazes like.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I think men have more easy space to behave the
way they want to in their living room and outside.
It's pretty much taken it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know why, because they don't care. They say this
is how it is, take it or leave it. We
being you know, we are like, oh it starts the
moment something starts bothering us, we started the to it,
and then the more it happens around that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think we have also set of standard too high.
We want to be all that polished and like taken perfect. Yes,
you've said that standards. Second is women are put through
more trials to be trusted as an actor than men.
Do you believe in that?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No, I don't believe in that because you know, I
see so many of my friends and male actors also.
Everybody to prove yourself as an artist at the end
of the day. It's not about a man or a woman.
At the end of the days, you are an artist.
You have like you put the trial equally, Like, but
if I give you at least example, both of us
give an equal amount of auditions.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yes, so you think it's fifty to fifty. Yeah, but
there you're wrong. The services it's eighty percent. Yes, they
have to push through really. Yeah. The third one is
women have to be more arrogant to be taken seriously.
Otherwise they're taken like, oh, she's not arrogant, there's no attitude.
She's like, I I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
This is something which I also feel like some people
because I'm too sweet and polite with everything. People sometimes
you're taken for granted, but then when they see the
other side, they're like, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Have you have You got to execute that part of
yours every time because you're too sweet and too polite.
So it's a there that you have to step up
and be like, now I have to show them the
other side, which I have.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Sometimes Sometimes when you're taken for granted, sometimes have to
do it for yourself. You know, you can't let people
treat you like a dormant just because you're nice. You
can't be taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Sweet and blabbering girls are judged as being knife and available.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yes, I think eight people think like that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You're right, it's ninety percent according to a survey. But yes, anything.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I feel that, you know, sometimes I have to tell
people just because they're like, oh, friendly and talkative and
you know you're okay, we get to watilled out yes,
and yeah, that's my nature because I don't feel uncomfortable.
And are you even.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Taking a misleading at times? Jasmine? Because you go friendly
with everyone. It's not that I take as like, oh
she's misleading or have you been misunderstood on that?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Not misleading, not misunderstood because I know the fact that
I'll be judged for the nature I have been friendly
and talkative, so somewhere, very smartly, I insert that in between. Okay,
that's my nature. I don't like thinks that I'm misleading.
You're taking anyone? I give that, you know, bonding.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Safety away, you much aware of how people are going
to take you, not bad. And the last thing is
money or financial independence bring more validation or fame.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It brings confidence. I feel what valid makes you feel confident?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Like people think you're successful only when you're rich or
when you're famous.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, when you're rich and famous. I believe both.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Famous famous works more. You think that works more. I
don't know what's the general.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, because you know, when you're more famous, then you're
more in the eye of people everywhere, and people think, Okay,
she's doing good. Yes, nobody. Sometimes people are doing really
well with the pr but actually financial is not there. True.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, you're right, but there are ratio is fifty to
fifty out there.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I think both of it works. So, Jasmine, you're very
close to most of the answers, quite expected. So you
have this very sweet Tampa for you from India Podcast
and actually Hample will send it to you through your
team and we hope but we have a very sweet
last game. Again, it's about you being real and organic,
so very quickly, if you can tell us most of
your personality have met so far in your life, it
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has to.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Be celebrity famous.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, No, I think that your answer is a celebrity
and close to you, so you're.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, don't know. Then I would say, if it doesn't
need to be a celebrity, then my mother, oh so sweet,
she's so real and organic, and I see how perfectly
she goes and plays that part because you know, nobody
I've seen nobody ever feeling offended or hurt or bad
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anything because of her behavior and seeing her since childhood.
She just manages everything so well without being fake. Otherwise
at times, to please every woman, to keep everybody happy,
they have to be a little fake, you know, and animated.
I have seen her being so organic and real and
still keeping everything in calm and thief.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Then one name for a celebrity, because I think then
for a celebrity it becomes a little more difficult. You
have to be real and organic all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That bad see. I think nobody is more real and
organic than And she has no filters, Like she said, whatever, everything, whatever,
And she's so honest the way she approaches every situation.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Most natural lukor style for yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Most natural or look or.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Style that you carry. What is the most natural look
or style you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Believe can be casual? Anything specific about.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Your wardrobe you think particular thing that you think is
the most natural jasamine.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Look, oh, a loose T shirt and shorts?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Okay, most organic food item that you prefer to have
with yourself like you must have it in a day,
can be organic. Gee, you have been fat. Yeah, it
seems unlikely that you would always anyway pick that up
natural beauty tip or hack that you believe.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
In natural beauty. I can tell you, you know a lot
of us apply tint on our cheeks and lips. I'll
tell you a very natural hand. Just to have a
slice of beetroot but on your bedside before you sleep,
and just of it on your cheek and lifts and sleep.
You do that for like a month, you'll have like naturally.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I didn't know this. Letting me use a lipstick to
do that?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
No, no, no, you know and natural. Let's just be true.
You don't need any makeup like either. If you want
to go out, you just to do a little bit
of your underie to conceal and you'll always have the blushed.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So, yeah, I didn't know this.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is so rare.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I'm going to share this with people who are selling
their natural cosmetics. But the last one before we will
let you go is a situation in life of suppose
there was no one judging. You're in a world where
there's no judgment, What does that judgment machine would do?
Or would like to be. What is that one thing
that you would do if there was no judgment in
this world?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Already knew you would come there but left.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That gives you a little hesitant even introduced world.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I honestly, I feel I'm very much at par I
don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Hear, not a person.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I live my life the way I won't. I've never
been discreete about you know, my personal life, my relationships,
my work and that thing. I've always been out there open.
You judge me, It's okay, you're wasting your time because
it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So let me share us with share with us one
turning point of your life. We know you have so many,
but something that just turned a phase in your life,
you know, into a beautiful turning page of your life.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well, I think that would be a big boss. I
would give the big balls that credit. Because you know
I was working drink early well everything was great, but
after because I just became so much more popular and
so much more love that wherever I step out, As
you know, everybody knows, appreciates and loves me, and I
see that in people when I meet them personally. So
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that would be a big boss.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
How sweet Chasmine one moment if you can give us
with your favorite song or dialogue which defines you or
is your favorite just come out with your new release,
anything that you want to share with us and leave
the audience with it will be nice.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
My favorite song which also defines me.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Is you have to sing it, Jajamine. Now you said
you do everything unfilled, so I'm not judging you. This
is the no judging moment from my end. Please allow us. Okay,
something on the screen. We got your blockchair.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, bill to sha must go sha n tu.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think that is so cool. You're actually unfiltered person.
Thank you so much. Jazmine. One thought you want to
leave us with any dialogue of Honeymoon movie or anything
that you want to leave us with which is very
close to you or in your entire.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, so it is from Honeymoon where you know when
they and he that's set and then I tell him
uh and said, it's like it had a logo Hurt Hurt.
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It is one of my favorite dialogues and I also
believe in it that you cannot be happy by hurting
twenty other people around you. You can never be And we.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Don't believe you can ever do that. You don't appear
like a person like that at all. All the best, Jasmine,
thanks for sharing so many thoughts on women beyond the judgment.
It's a pleasure to have you, and we also wish
you good luck for all your movies, all your ventures.
You want to meet you in personal record next time
for your next release, definitely, and all the best to
you and Ali both. We did not have any particular question,
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but we're very happy to see your work together. It's
a beauty. Thank you so much thing to see your
guys together. So hope to see you soon and thank
you much
I think I look at my journey and I feel
really proud of myself. You know, I stepped over it
because as a child, while growing up, I was always
judged for the way I'm loving and honestly. One thing,
you know, we all should know that when you are
true to your work and you're honest and you know
how to bring everybody in harmony so that your productive,
but everybody loves you and everybody else, you going to
(00:22):
at least every woman to keep everybody happy. We have
to be a little faint, you know. And if this
had a logu po hurt, the soup hurt.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much, Jasmine for your time for in
their podcast. It's a real pleasure to have you with us.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Same, Yeah, pleasure is mine. I'm quite excited. What are
we going to talk about?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So, if you're going to talk about something, I think
you have always stood up for it, that is to
grow beyond judgment. I think you're one of the few
people we know in industry and the celebrated world, you know,
who's always been so real. You've been called someone very
frank out there real, So I think it's always because
you might have grown beyond the judgment of not judging
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others and maybe not taking the judgment too easily. So
I want to start with that. What was the last
judgment up until you came in satire? Who ja, that's human?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
See, I am somebody who never judges anybody for anything.
From where we are coming. I believe everybody has a journey,
and we a certain way because of our journeys, and
we should never judge because it's the circumstances that you know,
shape us the way we are. So the last person
to ever judge anybody judgment.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
See, we live in an Asian society where we are
bound to be judged because we are women. It's it's
and every minute you know, you can.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
See somebody having the looking with you from the corner
of their eyes, trying to judge you. Just because you're
a woman, you're supposed to behave in a certain way.
And that happens to all of us every minute, at
the moment we step out.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What was the last moment you felt?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So? Uh, I've been around family so recently though nothing last.
I think I was traveling because I've been traveling a
lot on a fly and I was very busy with
like my two phones and this and that. So a
guy came up to me and asked me, you know
(02:42):
you look like a very busy person. You have to
two phones. And I was like, was he sitting and
judging me throughout that? You know? What do I do?
What kind of a profession I have in just because
I have two phones? And I was like, I think
you should mind your own business because you're in a
queue to both the fly and it was judging me
throughout that. You was like, no use, come across like
(03:04):
you have two people? What does this even mean? Like
what is going on in your head? Is because a
woman is taking a late flight and she's busy, occupied
with things. So I don't know what all he had
in his mind.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But you're right, you know, Jasmine, you gave us a
lead there to understand. If I look at your journey,
you've been out there, way outspoken about it was not easy.
I mean just because today you've made it, you have
got opportunity you could and cash it. It has never
been easy for you up until now. You still yourself there.
Can you tell me how do you relate to your journey?
(03:38):
If I have to say, do you look at your
journeys like I've struggled through. It's been a struggler's journey
because being a woman, we all know we always accused
victim card kyo women. Okay, but you have had your journey,
it is your own. How do you define it? Was
it a struggler one? Was it good? You were content
with it? So from your journey, how do you define that? Like,
how do you look at your journey?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I think I look at my journey and I feel
really proud of myself because I never cared about what
others say, others think. At a very early age, I
realize that, you know, I am responsible for my own life.
My success and my failures are both my responsibility. You know,
(04:22):
nobody is going to come and you know, be my
support system. People will come and give me sympathy, they'll
really provide me their shoulder to cry on, but nobody
is going to be a part of this journey the
way I want it to be. So I never cared
about anybody. Whatever imperfections and flaws also I had. I
(04:43):
always owned them because I think it's the best way
to approach your life that you know, own it and
accept it whatever you think the flaws that you have,
because nobody is perfect true that, and the society and
people around us will always be judging us. Okay, even
(05:05):
if I do something right, I'll be judged if I
do something wrong. Oh my god, then becomes a big thing.
So then it's better. I just concentrate on my dreams,
my ambitions, and my goals and blogged myself from everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Part so nice to hear this from you, because we
almost find you're not so filtered out. But then your
thoughts are so filtered, so I think it just balances out.
But we'll play this quick thing, not a game, just
a thought that you can share with us in an
anecdote form. Is the moment that you stepped beyond judgment
in your childhood days? A co incident, judge Kiah, was
(05:42):
time in your childhood days, any memory and he just
stepped over it or you failed to step over it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, I stepped over it because as a child, well,
growing up, I was already judged for the way I looked. Okay,
I was already steady for you. No, But while growing
up as a child, I was always made to feel
that I'm not DM ugly am duck. I have so
many acns and you know, just the skinniest girl in
(06:13):
the school. I was always judged for it, but you know,
it never stopped me because I then I capt judge
hook improver to Jato. You know, as a child in school,
you stop participating in activities and things that happened, and
you're not an active student as a child. Also, those
(06:34):
judgments never bothered me. I knew, okay, they all make
fun of the way I look. You know, as a
teenager when you're growing up, everybody starts dating there and
we start understanding the process of you know, this boy
likes this girl, and nobody liked me because of my look.
But that never bothered me. I had great set of
friends I would enjoy. I was always in the front
(06:55):
row when there were any activities being planned. There were
events that it was fo curricular activities, my studies. I
never felt that I lacked anything. You know, I never
led you.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
To not feel so, because it is very common if
so much of suppression and judgment comes, but normally to
feel secluded or introvert, or pylon or take revenge, you know.
So what worked for.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What worked for me is see, I've always had this
attitude and also it comes to me from my mother
you know, my mother always raised me in a way
where she just told me, you think about yourself, you
do your good, you be your right, and you know,
don't let anybody else's opinions stop you. Like for example,
(07:41):
I'll tell you a small incident. We used to go
to a good dwara everyday evening. It was a routine,
and we used to pass on like really lonely lane
and I started observing a guy used to look at
me very weirdly. So I told my mom as a child,
I got intimidated, or let's take another route, you know.
She asked me why I still remember it because it
(08:04):
made a huge change to my life. So then she
told me why So I told her because of this
guy and I feel uncomfortable. I think, I don't know
what you're judging us or what what is wrong? So
my mom said, you'll meet a lot of people who
will judge you, who will intimidate you in your life.
How many you're not supposed to do that with their
(08:30):
opinedions and you know, judgments. You need to go and
face it what is wrong. And she took me and
that was the first incident where she taught me how
to face it and not change my part, but rather
be on it without bothering about anything else.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
There's such a strong inspiration and you took it in
the right manner, because that's pretty strong. Also in the industry,
now that we see our recent movie Honeymoon in Panjavi industry,
how is the whole space been to work in different industry,
different language. You worked in South films also, so can
you tell me how has your transition been or experience
(09:08):
been in different industry in the different state to say so,
not industry, I won't call it a transition.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'll just call it experience. I see, I started from
South and I was very young. I was nineteen, I
was twenty. I didn't know anything. So that was my
learning period. That is where I learned. It was a
schooling time for me. And then I came to Bombay.
We to television and Opunjabi industry. My experience was fabulous.
People were so warm, so loving and honestly. One thing,
(09:38):
you know, we all should know that when you are
true to your work, when you're honest and you know
how to bring everybody in harmony so that your product
is but everybody loves you and everybody helps you because
at the end of the day, everybody's working hard to
make a good product. And if you know how to
get along with people and be honest to your work,
people appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But how do frient was adjustment because there is a
kind of opinion about South films are so different today
odd is kind of balanced it out. Now you see
Panjabi every industry, every state. Films are respected equally, rather
larger than life. So do you think you've stepped in
the right time. You're lucky for that because up to
poor environment change over Apparently it was very much. Oh
(10:19):
you've just worked in South film, You've not worked in
North films for your TV celebrities, So how things have played.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
For you personally? These differences? Hey in say, because I
wanted to work I am an artist. I got apportunately
down South. I did that. I got a portunity television.
I gave my best I got opportunity for my Punjabi film.
I did it for me. It that taboo of our
(10:48):
television actor. I have always been meto artists or whatever.
I will always do it. It doesn't matter to me. And
trust me, right is a very very good time because
if you make a good thing, if your content is good.
People will get recognition, you will get validation, people will
love you, and it's going to be everywhere, and the
(11:09):
time is very good and I'm lucky that many posts
sustained or survived. Yeah, it's time for job where you
know as artists, I have multiple platforms, and.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I think you've excelled. And you've also set a bar
for people who stuck or get stuck in taboo and
use it. Key, I didn't have opportunity. You excelled in
every where you stepped in, so you have set opportunity. Yeah, yeah,
I think you have raised bar for every places you've
been in. But there's one thing that women always face
difficulty is we have identified as saying no. How often
you have phased difficulty in saying no. I'll give you
(11:41):
a situation, say a no to a film or a
offer which you genuinely felt it was not great. How
difficult was it for you?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It was not at all difficult for me, because it's
worked for me. Yes, I cannot be dishonest to my
work if I don't like it. No means no. I'll
be very honest and I clearly blood you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Know, okay, saying no to a proposal from a guy
because you're so sweet. I don't think you're very rude
to anyone. So has it been difficult? Have you ever
gone in that situation?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We had to say, I have been in that situation
multiple times, but I see them very sweet. You see,
it's a nice thing that you know, I'm loved and
somebody likes me and wants to be with me. So
why to get rude? So I would say politely, sorry,
this is not possible. I'm reely sweet of you, but
it can't happen. I say no easily.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I quite expected you to be very polite in that
say no to an outfit that you wanted to wear,
or you just felt like there's under the pressure because.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, I can't hear your network.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
An know that you have to say to the out
is mine fluctuating? You can hear me, now, you can't
hear me? Am I not audible?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Now I can hear you? But last twenties, yeah, last
twenty six.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So the third situation is saying no to a costume
or outfit, even if you were all in alignment, alignment
with the director, but you have to say no to
something the dialogue script, costume.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Anything, yes, very easily. See, I am not the person
who will do only anything, which I don't want to
share as an anecdote because we always think it is
very difficult for artists to in that situation to you know,
take their own cost See the anecdote is as an artist,
screenpay a perform my best in a screenpay title. Oh
(13:37):
she was not happy with the costume, or she was
not happy with this or that. So you have to
take a stand. You have to say, no, this is
what I want to wear, this is all I want
to look. And if I feel confident, I perform confidently,
I perform well, and then only the entertainment will happen.
So just you have to take a stand for yourself.
What is a no is a no? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think you have to be confident of what you want.
And one thing that we want to play a very
short game with you is judge the world. We have
done a survey and you want to know your answer,
and how close you are to the answer, then we
have a small hamp over you. So we had done
a survey on women are judged on their looks more
than men. Obviously, yes, yes, okay, can you rate it
(14:20):
in the percentage because we have a survey in the
percentage of one hundred. How much do you think women
are judged more on their looks than men?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I would say ninety percent.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Nice, I think you're very much closed. It was ninety
five percent for the survey.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Women are because I think everybody judges us for even
if we sneeze and oh she stazes like.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I think men have more easy space to behave the
way they want to in their living room and outside.
It's pretty much taken it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know why, because they don't care. They say this
is how it is, take it or leave it. We
being you know, we are like, oh it starts the
moment something starts bothering us, we started the to it,
and then the more it happens around that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think we have also set of standard too high.
We want to be all that polished and like taken perfect. Yes,
you've said that standards. Second is women are put through
more trials to be trusted as an actor than men.
Do you believe in that?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No, I don't believe in that because you know, I
see so many of my friends and male actors also.
Everybody to prove yourself as an artist at the end
of the day. It's not about a man or a woman.
At the end of the days, you are an artist.
You have like you put the trial equally, Like, but
if I give you at least example, both of us
give an equal amount of auditions.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yes, so you think it's fifty to fifty. Yeah, but
there you're wrong. The services it's eighty percent. Yes, they
have to push through really. Yeah. The third one is
women have to be more arrogant to be taken seriously.
Otherwise they're taken like, oh, she's not arrogant, there's no attitude.
She's like, I I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
This is something which I also feel like some people
because I'm too sweet and polite with everything. People sometimes
you're taken for granted, but then when they see the
other side, they're like, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Have you have You got to execute that part of
yours every time because you're too sweet and too polite.
So it's a there that you have to step up
and be like, now I have to show them the
other side, which I have.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Sometimes Sometimes when you're taken for granted, sometimes have to
do it for yourself. You know, you can't let people
treat you like a dormant just because you're nice. You
can't be taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Sweet and blabbering girls are judged as being knife and available.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yes, I think eight people think like that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You're right, it's ninety percent according to a survey. But yes, anything.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I feel that, you know, sometimes I have to tell
people just because they're like, oh, friendly and talkative and
you know you're okay, we get to watilled out yes,
and yeah, that's my nature because I don't feel uncomfortable.
And are you even.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Taking a misleading at times? Jasmine? Because you go friendly
with everyone. It's not that I take as like, oh
she's misleading or have you been misunderstood on that?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Not misleading, not misunderstood because I know the fact that
I'll be judged for the nature I have been friendly
and talkative, so somewhere, very smartly, I insert that in between. Okay,
that's my nature. I don't like thinks that I'm misleading.
You're taking anyone? I give that, you know, bonding.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Safety away, you much aware of how people are going
to take you, not bad. And the last thing is
money or financial independence bring more validation or fame.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It brings confidence. I feel what valid makes you feel confident?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Like people think you're successful only when you're rich or
when you're famous.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, when you're rich and famous. I believe both.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Famous famous works more. You think that works more. I
don't know what's the general.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, because you know, when you're more famous, then you're
more in the eye of people everywhere, and people think, Okay,
she's doing good. Yes, nobody. Sometimes people are doing really
well with the pr but actually financial is not there. True.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, you're right, but there are ratio is fifty to
fifty out there.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I think both of it works. So, Jasmine, you're very
close to most of the answers, quite expected. So you
have this very sweet Tampa for you from India Podcast
and actually Hample will send it to you through your
team and we hope but we have a very sweet
last game. Again, it's about you being real and organic,
so very quickly, if you can tell us most of
your personality have met so far in your life, it
(18:46):
has to.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Be celebrity famous.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, No, I think that your answer is a celebrity
and close to you, so you're.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, don't know. Then I would say, if it doesn't
need to be a celebrity, then my mother, oh so sweet,
she's so real and organic, and I see how perfectly
she goes and plays that part because you know, nobody
I've seen nobody ever feeling offended or hurt or bad
(19:18):
anything because of her behavior and seeing her since childhood.
She just manages everything so well without being fake. Otherwise
at times, to please every woman, to keep everybody happy,
they have to be a little fake, you know, and animated.
I have seen her being so organic and real and
still keeping everything in calm and thief.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Then one name for a celebrity, because I think then
for a celebrity it becomes a little more difficult. You
have to be real and organic all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That bad see. I think nobody is more real and
organic than And she has no filters, Like she said, whatever, everything, whatever,
And she's so honest the way she approaches every situation.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Most natural lukor style for yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Most natural or look or.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Style that you carry. What is the most natural look
or style you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Believe can be casual? Anything specific about.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Your wardrobe you think particular thing that you think is
the most natural jasamine.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Look, oh, a loose T shirt and shorts?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Okay, most organic food item that you prefer to have
with yourself like you must have it in a day,
can be organic. Gee, you have been fat. Yeah, it
seems unlikely that you would always anyway pick that up
natural beauty tip or hack that you believe.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
In natural beauty. I can tell you, you know a lot
of us apply tint on our cheeks and lips. I'll
tell you a very natural hand. Just to have a
slice of beetroot but on your bedside before you sleep,
and just of it on your cheek and lifts and sleep.
You do that for like a month, you'll have like naturally.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I didn't know this. Letting me use a lipstick to
do that?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
No, no, no, you know and natural. Let's just be true.
You don't need any makeup like either. If you want
to go out, you just to do a little bit
of your underie to conceal and you'll always have the blushed.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So, yeah, I didn't know this.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is so rare.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I'm going to share this with people who are selling
their natural cosmetics. But the last one before we will
let you go is a situation in life of suppose
there was no one judging. You're in a world where
there's no judgment, What does that judgment machine would do?
Or would like to be. What is that one thing
that you would do if there was no judgment in
this world?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Already knew you would come there but left.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That gives you a little hesitant even introduced world.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I honestly, I feel I'm very much at par I
don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Hear, not a person.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I live my life the way I won't. I've never
been discreete about you know, my personal life, my relationships,
my work and that thing. I've always been out there open.
You judge me, It's okay, you're wasting your time because
it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So let me share us with share with us one
turning point of your life. We know you have so many,
but something that just turned a phase in your life,
you know, into a beautiful turning page of your life.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well, I think that would be a big boss. I
would give the big balls that credit. Because you know
I was working drink early well everything was great, but
after because I just became so much more popular and
so much more love that wherever I step out, As
you know, everybody knows, appreciates and loves me, and I
see that in people when I meet them personally. So
(22:51):
that would be a big boss.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
How sweet Chasmine one moment if you can give us
with your favorite song or dialogue which defines you or
is your favorite just come out with your new release,
anything that you want to share with us and leave
the audience with it will be nice.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
My favorite song which also defines me.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Is you have to sing it, Jajamine. Now you said
you do everything unfilled, so I'm not judging you. This
is the no judging moment from my end. Please allow us. Okay,
something on the screen. We got your blockchair.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, bill to sha must go sha n tu.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think that is so cool. You're actually unfiltered person.
Thank you so much. Jazmine. One thought you want to
leave us with any dialogue of Honeymoon movie or anything
that you want to leave us with which is very
close to you or in your entire.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, so it is from Honeymoon where you know when
they and he that's set and then I tell him
uh and said, it's like it had a logo Hurt Hurt.
(24:21):
It is one of my favorite dialogues and I also
believe in it that you cannot be happy by hurting
twenty other people around you. You can never be And we.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Don't believe you can ever do that. You don't appear
like a person like that at all. All the best, Jasmine,
thanks for sharing so many thoughts on women beyond the judgment.
It's a pleasure to have you, and we also wish
you good luck for all your movies, all your ventures.
You want to meet you in personal record next time
for your next release, definitely, and all the best to
you and Ali both. We did not have any particular question,
(24:52):
but we're very happy to see your work together. It's
a beauty. Thank you so much thing to see your
guys together. So hope to see you soon and thank
you much
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