January 2, 2025 • 36 mins
In the third episode of Women Beyond The Judgment on IndiaPodcasts, AnkuGoyal sits down with the amazing motivational speaker, singer Jaya Kishori, to discuss her incredible spiritual journey. ✨
Jaya shares how her path began as a simple passion, not a planned pursuit. "For me, it was just like any extracurricular activity, something I genuinely enjoyed," she reveals. 🌸
Her story is a powerful reminder that when you follow your heart, you find purpose, devotion, and true empowerment. 💫
The journey of self-discovery often begins with a spark of passion. ✨ In the third episode of Women Beyond The Judgment on IndiaPodcasts, @AnkuGoyal sits down with the inspiring Jaya Kishori to share how her spiritual path started as a heartfelt passion, not a planned pursuit. “For me, it was just like any extracurricular activity, something I genuinely enjoyed,” she reflects. 🌸💫
Her story is a beautiful reminder that when you follow what you love, it can lead to a life filled with purpose, devotion, and growth. 🌟
Tune in now for more empowering insights from Jaya Kishori and other amazing women.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indiapodcasts-we-hear-what-you-want-to-say--4263837/support.
Jaya shares how her path began as a simple passion, not a planned pursuit. "For me, it was just like any extracurricular activity, something I genuinely enjoyed," she reveals. 🌸
Her story is a powerful reminder that when you follow your heart, you find purpose, devotion, and true empowerment. 💫
The journey of self-discovery often begins with a spark of passion. ✨ In the third episode of Women Beyond The Judgment on IndiaPodcasts, @AnkuGoyal sits down with the inspiring Jaya Kishori to share how her spiritual path started as a heartfelt passion, not a planned pursuit. “For me, it was just like any extracurricular activity, something I genuinely enjoyed,” she reflects. 🌸💫
Her story is a beautiful reminder that when you follow what you love, it can lead to a life filled with purpose, devotion, and growth. 🌟
Tune in now for more empowering insights from Jaya Kishori and other amazing women.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indiapodcasts-we-hear-what-you-want-to-say--4263837/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To be very honest. Opinion is about yourself. Opinion idea A.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Graduates and the family.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Understood that Kimira inclination here spirituality or torpid up.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Both close hair or sun.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Or close head, and I think, Okay, sometimes I don't
want your advice.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And I'm sure you're just for not getting married, are you?
Do people ask you this way often?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
No, No, I'm not judged. I would say, yeah, they
asked me a lot. It's exposure as milry.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So thank you Jaya for being on India Podcast, and
I really welcome. Thank you so much. You know, I
have such a common connection with you. I come from
Kolkata too, maybe Calcu that is a joy. So we
have some connect already to begin with. And I'm very
(01:10):
happy about it.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Thank you so much. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The theme that the story that we're working on on
India Podcast is women beyond the judgment, How judgment is
there and how women have grown beyond the judgment? Is
we have developed this concept and key actually judgment that
(01:37):
is it just a word meaning hey, buzzy dictionary word isom.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Conveniently obviously we have a meaning. Judgment is actually jabab
criticism without knowing the actual story.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Okay, so you know.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You shouldn't judge a book by its cover opinions.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The wootes relate to that little knowledge is always dangerous.
But yeah, the danger is with you, with your behavior
and for the other person to person without even knowing
the real story behind it. So I think that is
what judgment is. Struggle, Yeah, you problems.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Or to success here? Yeah a judgment. Opinion got a
big simple language made bullet opinion share. But the.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Actually is possible to not judge anything in saniku. It
has an opinion and simultaneously opinion. We should have our
own mind, then we borrow ideas herd mentality exist opinion
(03:20):
judgment herd mentality. So how is it possible to exist
without judgment? Practically, yes, very practical, to be very honest.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Opinion is about yourself. Opinion ideas to rat race includes
idea children, this is what I feel about myself or
something which is bothering me, you know, pain, struggle and
(04:05):
for a.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Or a screen? Could this is my opinion? Nobody asked?
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, opinion or other is related here to Obviously I'll
keep my thing.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Related heir to opinions or can kiss or opinion desperate.
What should I say activity had to gain attention or.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You come put your and you're putting up some opinions
just to get some publicity.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Do something with your life and gain that publicity.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Opinions which are productive Karli, which is related to you,
not related to anybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
For example, advice advice is minute, so I think, but
this is problematic.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
How co advice is ready but nobody wants to just listen.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
To So is this fair?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
See to be very honest because not everybody understands to
be very honest a time.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Or so.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You can never have a time period or a judgment
criticism all the time. The big balance create So it's
very necessary to understand that not everybody understands your pain
or your opinion or your thing. So it's okay. But
(06:15):
when you know close he or or close head, and
I think, sometimes I don't want your advices or your opinions.
I just want you to listen. That's all my solution.
Don't or don't who It's not that ake and.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Problem solve problem for solve.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I can solve my problems. I just want someone to listen.
It's okay. You're intelligent or you're smart, you can do
it on your own.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think that's what we want to hear sometimes through.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That, you know a journey has been very much like
an early early riser.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I'm an early riser.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I think you've an early riser to life because if
at six year age girl can really know how to sing,
how to connect with something called devotional love. So I
don't know this is rising to life or rising to
a morning the j I don't know, memory not clear,
knowing it my class one way only Alca cons a.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Vivid memory A different.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
When I say different, it is very aware, soul special.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
OJ don't to be very honest. So I am doing
something which is very different in your age, you don't.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Mature Like when I started, I was like, I'm doing
something which I love to extra curricular activities.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So for me that was my extra curricular like I'm
not playing games.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And I'm not attending dance classes all these kind of things.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm doing my spiritual things. So merely I never had
that word spirituality and devotionalized like would or different because
(08:40):
may struggle period he.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, okay, you know judged seriously or so I think
many a play life the toughest time. Salo are you serious.
I would never.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Consident where you felt like you're a pretty I'm not
pretty so cute? Then can you say one moment?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, see, I wouldn't say so. I started my journey
when I was six. Start. Then the family understood that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Inclination here, spirituality, torpe classes, menacing classes, totally journey starting.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Then I started performing. You performed to you know, so timy,
you know, but seriously.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And maturity knowledge judge, but.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Maybe could seek and to be very honest, I did
not start my journey.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Then, yes, I was just singing, singing, but maybe they
weren't taking me seriously? Yeah, what's seriously? Or I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
That wasn't necessary? You should have that. I think that
kindness because I think now that's the reason zada humanity.
Kindness what most cheese.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's encouraged.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think encouragement, struggle, period, struggle, painful. I think, Andy, course, seriously, no,
I have.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
To do this.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But did it ever come to you like because singing.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And singing career, you know, I am country may singing
is more related to commercial world cinema movies. So did
you ever have that had that thought once also.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Because you are very honest. No never never, never ever.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Go to No.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I did not think so well, abb I don't think
so now saying I was. I was a kid, you know,
as I was learning things. So merely it wasn't sick
about singing RB.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I don't call myself a singer because I don't sing
in terms of singing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Budget here.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's my meditation such san, that's my spirituality.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So you know, wo connected. It's not about singing RGB.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I can think about it, and you know, you get
offers the devotional a chaga and you're putting up things
on YouTube and support, so there are people who want
you to come see every everybody has their own commercial sides.
It's not that happy spiritual sideway. We have a commercial
sides over there. But if you see about the industry,
(12:48):
so Abibi, you know you get offers. But I don't
think I have that interest because I don't have an
interest in singing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Budget no interest here.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
You connect with people through your voice and through your yes.
I think you connect with God and then you connect
that with people. So that's how it transcends into everything.
But you've already answered one of the most important questions
that I was about to ask you was uh that
you said?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You know, in your journey kidnap you.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Said how it was difficult as a young girl, but
as a woman, did you ever have this feeling lurky
as the difficulty?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Key?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It was okay, blury wana obstacle.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, you had an advantage.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A lot of people said is very pretty, so she
always has an advantage, so didn't go.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
As a disadvantage here, she's pretty, that's what she gets
it easy, this is I think, and the other side
was more rather than the first side. So they don't
see your hard work or they don't see the kind
of work you're doing. Who blame prettiness?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Super so I think that is something very disturbing.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
But in your spiritual was a woman being a woman
a question? Because it's an only reserve for men?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yes, I think so that's Amnica.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I still have this obstacle, okay, a bb. You know
there are people they don't want you to do k
I still remember, like I because I keep asking questions.
I always say I'm a student, I'm not a teacher.
I'm still learning, So you know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That you shouldn't say too many like I don't like
taking names or something to man knowledgeable in sans.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Please give me a reason, proper reason, your reason actually.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Natural and I wish shocked without giving me a prop answer,
answer logic and I shocked lady and she told me that,
(15:20):
but could be common sense her knowledge. It's like, what,
please come again? What did you just say?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And she's like, has about knowledge to our kids.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
But I don't think gens better life obviously make known
nam sense the question kata, So so.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's still there. If gen section made you with the
female section will be a man. And I think I
still face these things, but I think that's okay. Life
ups and downs. QUI problem faced?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
M hm, I can't hear you. I think your mic
is off.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So do you think that time people will start up?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sorry? Can you come again?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You can hear me?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Do you think now this will change with time very soon?
Because you have also.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Said down, Yeah, it will change, and it's not about me.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I think a lot of girls are doing really good
these days, so I think that's going to change.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But just pura change can answer percent which to question
curring here, it's not that case of girls kill you.
The boys problems they sidek problems here.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
You know, when we reached out to some women, we
saw one question being raised by the end that our
women ready to adjust today just nigger animal. Ladies were
very strong emotionally they still are, but just bought they
just chentlemen. With the demand for equality or women coming out,
the adjustment power has reduced.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So do you believe that?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think you know you have two sides of the coin.
So I think adjustment wal cheese. It's not about just
girls to adjustment in totally log article or just naked
they yea male section may be could you patients power
(17:57):
and you have different reasons for that about sorry, numerous
reasons they sup the sessions maybe, but reason but patients
patients level. But if you talk about relationships or marriage
in terms of what should I say, auto colk m paid,
(18:19):
they do not. Just I think it's not about adjustment,
it's about not tolerating anything because above independent, up nightly,
up keep us quite optional?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay about your Mike.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Given an option?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Why not? Why can't they demand or why can't they
vtilize themselves? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Option as in independent, you know, dependent or my sessions
may be won't you education.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Up priority parents?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Please? Independent? But now to problems.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, both by level compromise dependent head yato father husband,
then you know my father and you just stay here
and tolerate the stuffs, which is wrong, but dependent independent
(19:31):
dependent to tolerate. Can I ever put or to my tolerate?
I think equality? UK, Yes, was the are equal hedges
(19:53):
like male behave behavior tribe?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think problem your heir?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
How's smart? Do you put that through?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But when you speak of equality, do you believe feminism
is equality? A feminism may equality men and women should
be equally concertaining the body term convenience for us.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
See, I think intention.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So if you talk about feminism, obviously there are girls
or they are women who are doing great work with feminism,
and they're actually doing something which is related to equality.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Obviously you give it a name to feminism. Feminism is
about some kind of inclination towards women. That's why you
have that name. You have to admit that. Okay, you
cannot say feminism is equality change equality.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Equality so nice.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Changed tone, I forgot the word. Okay, march sky kind
of march say you know we will support support the
women on equal rights.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I think the feminism and it's a good thing. But obviously, yes,
it's just the time. But America, two sides of the
coin word. Yes, but the hatred problems obviously torture to okay,
(21:36):
a change, but male, Joe sacrifices you can't vo.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's not a big thing. It's not a big thing.
Ham then it's the wrong because you know you as
a kid, I think I have seen my father doing
a lot of things, a lot of sacrifices for our family.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And and still I will work towards the women rights.
But that does not mean I will have a hate
towards my father or anybody who is doing a great
work for their family.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You know, mindset, it's not their fault. It will take
time pr hatred example, my glass, and that's just not possible.
(22:50):
So a forcefully hate hatred laker child Andre and we respect,
I think to a negative feeling, who is the word?
I think I'm gonna be correct corctly. Then there's nothing
wrong with this world.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
But one very small question I have before we go
to some game segment and close it is do you
think women have also turned against women in their theory?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Hold? I think, Jens, I think.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Because so he struggle as the men and women.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So yes, is growing families maybe you know it's like
they ran.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They have their own problems.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Even for marriage. The questions women will ask you more
easily are you married? And if yes, why you know?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So? This is don't even care.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
They're more happy if you're not.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Maybe maybe okay, going to one fun segment with you.
I want to know from you very quickly. What is
the most complicated things people have come to you? You
were suffer There are choices. They're suffering more of relationship
issues or career.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think nowadays it's more about career youth to connect to.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think marriage.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
They are independent, they'll do it on their time or
kidnap our family. The pressure they're like, no, no, no,
I'll do it Marie time say so Chee Colleker, marriage,
your relationship, you're doing their own thing.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But career who zada confused here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I think job or start up or up in a
hobby or being an.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Artist is the cheese other confused.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
The second is peace or happiness.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think peace because piece is happiness. Shant happiness. I
think it was other messy, overwhelming, but people.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Are more looking for peace or happiness when they come
to you.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Peace definitely peace, peace.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Are they coming to you more about questions about marriage
or are they coming more about questions or solving their divorces
because both have become equally now, like divorces have also
become very commonly accepted now.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I think the sector man may become explore Kia because
I'm not married, So maybe they think.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
We should judge you.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Let her experience that and then ask these questions.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And I think, I'm sure you're judged for not getting married,
are you? Do people ask you this way often?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No, No, I'm not judged. I would say, yeah, they
asked me a lot curring. I think the question jo.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Than A lot of memes are made up. People make
your matchmaking on YouTube and.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Put it out. It's so fun and a lot of
them enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But one thing about you that people have judged more
is on fitness.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Any comment due to for yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
See, I think I was really healthy. Pet the word healthy.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think I get no compliments now, no.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, But the boy I'm saying that they're never happy,
are you? See there is like you're very heavy, like
you look more cute, not oh my god, they say,
now you look crazy. You guys like noute.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I have to tell him you look clearly judgment on beauty.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Now that I've said that, that compliment goes with the
next quession.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Are you judged for beauty very often? So the problem.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Like do you have after you've been questioned like she's
she's too arrogant to something?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah something that No, no, no, I don't think so
I can twice because you know, I have this sick field.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like field of my people don't feel like you can't
talk personally say this too. They have their opinions.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
That pretty is silly, but maybe come percent, but I
don't think so.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And the last one is you're early achiever, So are
you ever judged on that?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like what overnight success?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Here over success, it's not overnight.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think you took per See, they'll judge you for
anything they want the reason, so I'm like, okay, you
find your own reasons. I'm doing. So.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
One last segment we have is about real organic naturally
you where you want to ask you about uh these
terms terms just.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Like they say be yourself? What does it mean to you?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Means be yourself? But we're discipline, I would think, because
be yourself is you.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Know, rude up like this is who I am no,
this is not good. You should have a filter hurt,
so be yourself. Maler can put your opinions or maybe
your advices or anything close.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I also don't understand it's like the.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Bar couldas but give them your vest, you know exactly. Yes,
second is.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Let it go. This is just let it go.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Just amna two sides, I let it go bos other
casual obiatical let seriously. So I think it's either relationship
or career to career. Maybe it's like if you like it,
do it. If you don't like it, let it go.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
No, wait, it's not.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's not just very casually.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Going with the flow is taking you with the flow.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And the last one that I have is live in
the moment.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, that's correct. I think you should live in the moment,
but instan one hundred percent moment mediega. You'll always have future.
But that's good.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think that's how you should be. You live in
the moment, just one two percent the future. I think
that's the best.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Thing to do.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Now, as we close, you know how, I will close
it with you.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But one question that I've got from people if we
do our caller segment is they want to know is
there some something called generation gap or a communication gap?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
How should we look at it?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's both. Actually you have a generation gap, but you
can fill it up with communication.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And if you have a communication gap, then also you
fill it after the communication.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And communication you can have it with generation gap. You
know generation gap. They have their own experiences. You have
your own experiences obviously, so you have to understand the
point of.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Communications. And I wouldn't say your parents, I think other change.
I'm looking nine yes, okay Nika the nyan zamana or
arch electronic gadgets had life Jubai exposures lak demean kg car.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
So your parents parents.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Donk situation to exposures, milry the mark both messed up he.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Shodas example, the parents need experiences sont to, but she
could demean okay to mari to useless.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think so chi share experiences carry lessons for quoting
here it means rude or me lessons treasure here.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I think maybe you know increase and so I
am successful. Example, may parents parents advice.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Coating, but you take your own decision, the choice decision.
I have my freedom. You know. The lip of the time.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Is a smart whom it's so much for you, woments
so much for your decision.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
May parents, your parents gattentions.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So if your language is good, then your life is good.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yes, so I could only listen to it, but I
could not imply so much.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But now with you saying that, I really imply.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
But uh, Jaya, you have to give me one you
said for you singing his mudgin and is connection the
concert virgin is moment connects you and me also and
you to everyone, to all the women listeners all.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Sing my favorite budget because see I am connected with God.
And I always say the kind of humanity I have,
or maybe I don't have that arrogance it is becau.
I don't think I'm the war.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm just an instrument. He's doing everything.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I think that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, people ask you know, it comes with the realization
that you don't believe it's you.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You're just an instrument.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I think that's the pudgeon. I like you. Mirah
Poky Suba, come arnhiya, Mirahama, Mirah Crippac Suba, comea.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
This is my favorite.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I have a three year old niece and she's so
much into Budget singing and when I heard this, I
just gave you goosebum because I would always say.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
What is she singing? But now I know the meaning.
It means that you are thanking God.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, and he's doing everything, but he's giving you the
credit of doing this.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Wow. So easy to shift the gratitude to him and
not be arrogant. You can just shift it there and.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He's doing it. You're not arrogant. You won't feel bad,
you won't have that ego, and you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Don't have the borden to Ed's taken care.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, I'm just an instrument. He's playing it.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I would love to meet you in Calcutta very soon,
and Joya, before you go selling this to you, this
is for media podcast naturally for you.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
This is a small token of love we give out
because we are growing with people in the country and.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
We hope we reach our love to you. And it
is so nice to encourage us to send your love.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
And I hope we can meet in real, for real
with you in Calcutta very very soon and I have
a very nice nice would love to meet you.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Thank you so much, you lovely, thank you
To be very honest. Opinion is about yourself. Opinion idea A.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Graduates and the family.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Understood that Kimira inclination here spirituality or torpid up.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Both close hair or sun.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Or close head, and I think, Okay, sometimes I don't
want your advice.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And I'm sure you're just for not getting married, are you?
Do people ask you this way often?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
No, No, I'm not judged. I would say, yeah, they
asked me a lot. It's exposure as milry.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So thank you Jaya for being on India Podcast, and
I really welcome. Thank you so much. You know, I
have such a common connection with you. I come from
Kolkata too, maybe Calcu that is a joy. So we
have some connect already to begin with. And I'm very
(01:10):
happy about it.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Thank you so much. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The theme that the story that we're working on on
India Podcast is women beyond the judgment, How judgment is
there and how women have grown beyond the judgment? Is
we have developed this concept and key actually judgment that
(01:37):
is it just a word meaning hey, buzzy dictionary word isom.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Conveniently obviously we have a meaning. Judgment is actually jabab
criticism without knowing the actual story.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Okay, so you know.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You shouldn't judge a book by its cover opinions.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The wootes relate to that little knowledge is always dangerous.
But yeah, the danger is with you, with your behavior
and for the other person to person without even knowing
the real story behind it. So I think that is
what judgment is. Struggle, Yeah, you problems.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Or to success here? Yeah a judgment. Opinion got a
big simple language made bullet opinion share. But the.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Actually is possible to not judge anything in saniku. It
has an opinion and simultaneously opinion. We should have our
own mind, then we borrow ideas herd mentality exist opinion
(03:20):
judgment herd mentality. So how is it possible to exist
without judgment? Practically, yes, very practical, to be very honest.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Opinion is about yourself. Opinion ideas to rat race includes
idea children, this is what I feel about myself or
something which is bothering me, you know, pain, struggle and
(04:05):
for a.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Or a screen? Could this is my opinion? Nobody asked?
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, opinion or other is related here to Obviously I'll
keep my thing.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Related heir to opinions or can kiss or opinion desperate.
What should I say activity had to gain attention or.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You come put your and you're putting up some opinions
just to get some publicity.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Do something with your life and gain that publicity.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Opinions which are productive Karli, which is related to you,
not related to anybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
For example, advice advice is minute, so I think, but
this is problematic.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
How co advice is ready but nobody wants to just listen.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
To So is this fair?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
See to be very honest because not everybody understands to
be very honest a time.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Or so.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You can never have a time period or a judgment
criticism all the time. The big balance create So it's
very necessary to understand that not everybody understands your pain
or your opinion or your thing. So it's okay. But
(06:15):
when you know close he or or close head, and
I think, sometimes I don't want your advices or your opinions.
I just want you to listen. That's all my solution.
Don't or don't who It's not that ake and.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Problem solve problem for solve.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I can solve my problems. I just want someone to listen.
It's okay. You're intelligent or you're smart, you can do
it on your own.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think that's what we want to hear sometimes through.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That, you know a journey has been very much like
an early early riser.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I'm an early riser.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I think you've an early riser to life because if
at six year age girl can really know how to sing,
how to connect with something called devotional love. So I
don't know this is rising to life or rising to
a morning the j I don't know, memory not clear,
knowing it my class one way only Alca cons a.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Vivid memory A different.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
When I say different, it is very aware, soul special.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
OJ don't to be very honest. So I am doing
something which is very different in your age, you don't.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Mature Like when I started, I was like, I'm doing
something which I love to extra curricular activities.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So for me that was my extra curricular like I'm
not playing games.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And I'm not attending dance classes all these kind of things.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm doing my spiritual things. So merely I never had
that word spirituality and devotionalized like would or different because
(08:40):
may struggle period he.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, okay, you know judged seriously or so I think
many a play life the toughest time. Salo are you serious.
I would never.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Consident where you felt like you're a pretty I'm not
pretty so cute? Then can you say one moment?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, see, I wouldn't say so. I started my journey
when I was six. Start. Then the family understood that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Inclination here, spirituality, torpe classes, menacing classes, totally journey starting.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Then I started performing. You performed to you know, so timy,
you know, but seriously.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And maturity knowledge judge, but.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Maybe could seek and to be very honest, I did
not start my journey.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Then, yes, I was just singing, singing, but maybe they
weren't taking me seriously? Yeah, what's seriously? Or I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
That wasn't necessary? You should have that. I think that
kindness because I think now that's the reason zada humanity.
Kindness what most cheese.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's encouraged.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think encouragement, struggle, period, struggle, painful. I think, Andy, course, seriously, no,
I have.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
To do this.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But did it ever come to you like because singing.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And singing career, you know, I am country may singing
is more related to commercial world cinema movies. So did
you ever have that had that thought once also.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Because you are very honest. No never never, never ever.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Go to No.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I did not think so well, abb I don't think
so now saying I was. I was a kid, you know,
as I was learning things. So merely it wasn't sick
about singing RB.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I don't call myself a singer because I don't sing
in terms of singing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Budget here.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's my meditation such san, that's my spirituality.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So you know, wo connected. It's not about singing RGB.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I can think about it, and you know, you get
offers the devotional a chaga and you're putting up things
on YouTube and support, so there are people who want
you to come see every everybody has their own commercial sides.
It's not that happy spiritual sideway. We have a commercial
sides over there. But if you see about the industry,
(12:48):
so Abibi, you know you get offers. But I don't
think I have that interest because I don't have an
interest in singing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Budget no interest here.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
You connect with people through your voice and through your yes.
I think you connect with God and then you connect
that with people. So that's how it transcends into everything.
But you've already answered one of the most important questions
that I was about to ask you was uh that
you said?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You know, in your journey kidnap you.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Said how it was difficult as a young girl, but
as a woman, did you ever have this feeling lurky
as the difficulty?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Key?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It was okay, blury wana obstacle.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, you had an advantage.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A lot of people said is very pretty, so she
always has an advantage, so didn't go.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
As a disadvantage here, she's pretty, that's what she gets
it easy, this is I think, and the other side
was more rather than the first side. So they don't
see your hard work or they don't see the kind
of work you're doing. Who blame prettiness?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Super so I think that is something very disturbing.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
But in your spiritual was a woman being a woman
a question? Because it's an only reserve for men?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yes, I think so that's Amnica.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I still have this obstacle, okay, a bb. You know
there are people they don't want you to do k
I still remember, like I because I keep asking questions.
I always say I'm a student, I'm not a teacher.
I'm still learning, So you know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That you shouldn't say too many like I don't like
taking names or something to man knowledgeable in sans.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Please give me a reason, proper reason, your reason actually.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Natural and I wish shocked without giving me a prop answer,
answer logic and I shocked lady and she told me that,
(15:20):
but could be common sense her knowledge. It's like, what,
please come again? What did you just say?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And she's like, has about knowledge to our kids.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
But I don't think gens better life obviously make known
nam sense the question kata, So so.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's still there. If gen section made you with the
female section will be a man. And I think I
still face these things, but I think that's okay. Life
ups and downs. QUI problem faced?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
M hm, I can't hear you. I think your mic
is off.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So do you think that time people will start up?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sorry? Can you come again?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You can hear me?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Do you think now this will change with time very soon?
Because you have also.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Said down, Yeah, it will change, and it's not about me.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I think a lot of girls are doing really good
these days, so I think that's going to change.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But just pura change can answer percent which to question
curring here, it's not that case of girls kill you.
The boys problems they sidek problems here.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
You know, when we reached out to some women, we
saw one question being raised by the end that our
women ready to adjust today just nigger animal. Ladies were
very strong emotionally they still are, but just bought they
just chentlemen. With the demand for equality or women coming out,
the adjustment power has reduced.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So do you believe that?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think you know you have two sides of the coin.
So I think adjustment wal cheese. It's not about just
girls to adjustment in totally log article or just naked
they yea male section may be could you patients power
(17:57):
and you have different reasons for that about sorry, numerous
reasons they sup the sessions maybe, but reason but patients
patients level. But if you talk about relationships or marriage
in terms of what should I say, auto colk m paid,
(18:19):
they do not. Just I think it's not about adjustment,
it's about not tolerating anything because above independent, up nightly,
up keep us quite optional?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay about your Mike.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Given an option?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Why not? Why can't they demand or why can't they
vtilize themselves? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Option as in independent, you know, dependent or my sessions
may be won't you education.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Up priority parents?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Please? Independent? But now to problems.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, both by level compromise dependent head yato father husband,
then you know my father and you just stay here
and tolerate the stuffs, which is wrong, but dependent independent
(19:31):
dependent to tolerate. Can I ever put or to my tolerate?
I think equality? UK, Yes, was the are equal hedges
(19:53):
like male behave behavior tribe?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think problem your heir?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
How's smart? Do you put that through?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But when you speak of equality, do you believe feminism
is equality? A feminism may equality men and women should
be equally concertaining the body term convenience for us.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
See, I think intention.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So if you talk about feminism, obviously there are girls
or they are women who are doing great work with feminism,
and they're actually doing something which is related to equality.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Obviously you give it a name to feminism. Feminism is
about some kind of inclination towards women. That's why you
have that name. You have to admit that. Okay, you
cannot say feminism is equality change equality.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Equality so nice.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Changed tone, I forgot the word. Okay, march sky kind
of march say you know we will support support the
women on equal rights.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I think the feminism and it's a good thing. But obviously, yes,
it's just the time. But America, two sides of the
coin word. Yes, but the hatred problems obviously torture to okay,
(21:36):
a change, but male, Joe sacrifices you can't vo.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's not a big thing. It's not a big thing.
Ham then it's the wrong because you know you as
a kid, I think I have seen my father doing
a lot of things, a lot of sacrifices for our family.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And and still I will work towards the women rights.
But that does not mean I will have a hate
towards my father or anybody who is doing a great
work for their family.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You know, mindset, it's not their fault. It will take
time pr hatred example, my glass, and that's just not possible.
(22:50):
So a forcefully hate hatred laker child Andre and we respect,
I think to a negative feeling, who is the word?
I think I'm gonna be correct corctly. Then there's nothing
wrong with this world.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
But one very small question I have before we go
to some game segment and close it is do you
think women have also turned against women in their theory?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Hold? I think, Jens, I think.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Because so he struggle as the men and women.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So yes, is growing families maybe you know it's like
they ran.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They have their own problems.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Even for marriage. The questions women will ask you more
easily are you married? And if yes, why you know?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So? This is don't even care.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
They're more happy if you're not.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Maybe maybe okay, going to one fun segment with you.
I want to know from you very quickly. What is
the most complicated things people have come to you? You
were suffer There are choices. They're suffering more of relationship
issues or career.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think nowadays it's more about career youth to connect to.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think marriage.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
They are independent, they'll do it on their time or
kidnap our family. The pressure they're like, no, no, no,
I'll do it Marie time say so Chee Colleker, marriage,
your relationship, you're doing their own thing.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But career who zada confused here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I think job or start up or up in a
hobby or being an.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Artist is the cheese other confused.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
The second is peace or happiness.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think peace because piece is happiness. Shant happiness. I
think it was other messy, overwhelming, but people.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Are more looking for peace or happiness when they come
to you.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Peace definitely peace, peace.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Are they coming to you more about questions about marriage
or are they coming more about questions or solving their divorces
because both have become equally now, like divorces have also
become very commonly accepted now.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I think the sector man may become explore Kia because
I'm not married, So maybe they think.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
We should judge you.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Let her experience that and then ask these questions.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And I think, I'm sure you're judged for not getting married,
are you? Do people ask you this way often?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No, No, I'm not judged. I would say, yeah, they
asked me a lot curring. I think the question jo.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Than A lot of memes are made up. People make
your matchmaking on YouTube and.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Put it out. It's so fun and a lot of
them enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But one thing about you that people have judged more
is on fitness.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Any comment due to for yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
See, I think I was really healthy. Pet the word healthy.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think I get no compliments now, no.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, But the boy I'm saying that they're never happy,
are you? See there is like you're very heavy, like
you look more cute, not oh my god, they say,
now you look crazy. You guys like noute.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I have to tell him you look clearly judgment on beauty.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Now that I've said that, that compliment goes with the
next quession.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Are you judged for beauty very often? So the problem.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Like do you have after you've been questioned like she's
she's too arrogant to something?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah something that No, no, no, I don't think so
I can twice because you know, I have this sick field.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like field of my people don't feel like you can't
talk personally say this too. They have their opinions.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
That pretty is silly, but maybe come percent, but I
don't think so.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And the last one is you're early achiever, So are
you ever judged on that?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like what overnight success?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Here over success, it's not overnight.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think you took per See, they'll judge you for
anything they want the reason, so I'm like, okay, you
find your own reasons. I'm doing. So.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
One last segment we have is about real organic naturally
you where you want to ask you about uh these
terms terms just.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Like they say be yourself? What does it mean to you?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Means be yourself? But we're discipline, I would think, because
be yourself is you.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Know, rude up like this is who I am no,
this is not good. You should have a filter hurt,
so be yourself. Maler can put your opinions or maybe
your advices or anything close.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I also don't understand it's like the.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Bar couldas but give them your vest, you know exactly. Yes,
second is.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Let it go. This is just let it go.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Just amna two sides, I let it go bos other
casual obiatical let seriously. So I think it's either relationship
or career to career. Maybe it's like if you like it,
do it. If you don't like it, let it go.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
No, wait, it's not.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's not just very casually.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Going with the flow is taking you with the flow.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And the last one that I have is live in
the moment.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, that's correct. I think you should live in the moment,
but instan one hundred percent moment mediega. You'll always have future.
But that's good.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think that's how you should be. You live in
the moment, just one two percent the future. I think
that's the best.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Thing to do.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Now, as we close, you know how, I will close
it with you.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But one question that I've got from people if we
do our caller segment is they want to know is
there some something called generation gap or a communication gap?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
How should we look at it?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's both. Actually you have a generation gap, but you
can fill it up with communication.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And if you have a communication gap, then also you
fill it after the communication.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And communication you can have it with generation gap. You
know generation gap. They have their own experiences. You have
your own experiences obviously, so you have to understand the
point of.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Communications. And I wouldn't say your parents, I think other change.
I'm looking nine yes, okay Nika the nyan zamana or
arch electronic gadgets had life Jubai exposures lak demean kg car.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
So your parents parents.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Donk situation to exposures, milry the mark both messed up he.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Shodas example, the parents need experiences sont to, but she
could demean okay to mari to useless.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think so chi share experiences carry lessons for quoting
here it means rude or me lessons treasure here.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I think maybe you know increase and so I
am successful. Example, may parents parents advice.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Coating, but you take your own decision, the choice decision.
I have my freedom. You know. The lip of the time.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Is a smart whom it's so much for you, woments
so much for your decision.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
May parents, your parents gattentions.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So if your language is good, then your life is good.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yes, so I could only listen to it, but I
could not imply so much.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But now with you saying that, I really imply.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
But uh, Jaya, you have to give me one you
said for you singing his mudgin and is connection the
concert virgin is moment connects you and me also and
you to everyone, to all the women listeners all.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Sing my favorite budget because see I am connected with God.
And I always say the kind of humanity I have,
or maybe I don't have that arrogance it is becau.
I don't think I'm the war.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm just an instrument. He's doing everything.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I think that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, people ask you know, it comes with the realization
that you don't believe it's you.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You're just an instrument.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I think that's the pudgeon. I like you. Mirah
Poky Suba, come arnhiya, Mirahama, Mirah Crippac Suba, comea.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
This is my favorite.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I have a three year old niece and she's so
much into Budget singing and when I heard this, I
just gave you goosebum because I would always say.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
What is she singing? But now I know the meaning.
It means that you are thanking God.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, and he's doing everything, but he's giving you the
credit of doing this.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Wow. So easy to shift the gratitude to him and
not be arrogant. You can just shift it there and.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He's doing it. You're not arrogant. You won't feel bad,
you won't have that ego, and you.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Don't have the borden to Ed's taken care.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, I'm just an instrument. He's playing it.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I would love to meet you in Calcutta very soon,
and Joya, before you go selling this to you, this
is for media podcast naturally for you.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
This is a small token of love we give out
because we are growing with people in the country and.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
We hope we reach our love to you. And it
is so nice to encourage us to send your love.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
And I hope we can meet in real, for real
with you in Calcutta very very soon and I have
a very nice nice would love to meet you.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
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