The mind is a curious trickster, delighting in dreams where logic pirouettes in absurdity. In today's extraordinary episode, we welcome Andrew Shaffer, a humorist and New York Times bestselling author whose wit slices through the storms of reality with a twinkle in his eye and a chainsaw in hand. From the earliest pages of his life, Andrew Shaffer was destined to dance with the ridiculous and sublime. As a child, he devoured horror and science fiction with a ravenous appetite, only to find himself drawn back to these imaginative playgrounds after a detour through the hallowed halls of literary fiction. His journey led him, almost inevitably, to the playful chaos of "How to Survive a Sharknado," a manual for the absurd that demands both laughter and preparation.
In the dance of ideas, Andrew revealed how the birth of the Sharknado survival guide was as spontaneous as a tornado filled with teeth. Inspired by the original cult film, he offered his humorous talents when Random House and SyFy decided to create a companion book. Imagine being tasked with making flying sharks scientifically plausible; as he put it, "I had to talk to a marine biologist and ask, not could this happen, but how it might happen." It is in such delightfully impossible questions that the spirit of creativity is set loose.
Throughout the conversation, there was a beautiful lightness, the kind one finds when nonsense is taken seriously. Andrew's research involved binge-watching over 30 sci-fi films—some genuine, some fabricated solely for the book—to weave an interconnected universe of mayhem. When asked how one might survive a Sharknado, he smiled into the void and said, “The answer in the book is simple: Stand and fight. Grab a chainsaw.” It is a lesson not just for storms of sharks, but for all the monstrous whirlwinds that life throws at us. Yet beneath the chuckles and chainsaws, Andrew's words echoed a deeper wisdom. Too much meta-awareness, he warned, robs a story of its soul. "If everybody's in on the joke," he said, "then the joke itself isn’t that funny anymore." Ah, but isn’t that true of life itself? When we cling too tightly to cleverness, we risk missing the raw wonder that makes each absurdity luminous.
Perhaps the most chilling revelation of the day was the invincibility of the ghost shark, a creature birthed from sci-fi chaos. Manifesting from toilets, swimming pools, and even water bottles, it served as a reminder: some forces cannot be outrun; they must be met with courage, humor, and an open heart.
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In the dance of ideas, Andrew revealed how the birth of the Sharknado survival guide was as spontaneous as a tornado filled with teeth. Inspired by the original cult film, he offered his humorous talents when Random House and SyFy decided to create a companion book. Imagine being tasked with making flying sharks scientifically plausible; as he put it, "I had to talk to a marine biologist and ask, not could this happen, but how it might happen." It is in such delightfully impossible questions that the spirit of creativity is set loose.
Throughout the conversation, there was a beautiful lightness, the kind one finds when nonsense is taken seriously. Andrew's research involved binge-watching over 30 sci-fi films—some genuine, some fabricated solely for the book—to weave an interconnected universe of mayhem. When asked how one might survive a Sharknado, he smiled into the void and said, “The answer in the book is simple: Stand and fight. Grab a chainsaw.” It is a lesson not just for storms of sharks, but for all the monstrous whirlwinds that life throws at us. Yet beneath the chuckles and chainsaws, Andrew's words echoed a deeper wisdom. Too much meta-awareness, he warned, robs a story of its soul. "If everybody's in on the joke," he said, "then the joke itself isn’t that funny anymore." Ah, but isn’t that true of life itself? When we cling too tightly to cleverness, we risk missing the raw wonder that makes each absurdity luminous.
Perhaps the most chilling revelation of the day was the invincibility of the ghost shark, a creature birthed from sci-fi chaos. Manifesting from toilets, swimming pools, and even water bottles, it served as a reminder: some forces cannot be outrun; they must be met with courage, humor, and an open heart.
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Speaker 5 (01:54):
This is a very important podcast because we're going to
teach you in this episode to how to survive a
shark Nato. Now, Sharknado three is going to air on
the Sci Fi Channel in July the twenty second. This
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you can get even quicker preparation for battling this shark NATO.
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I know you're all very interested, so I'm going to
get right into it and without further ado. Here's the
interview with Andrew Schaeffer, author of How to Survive a
Shark Nato.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Stoting me today is Andrew Shafer.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Andrew is a humorist and New York Times best selling
author who works include The Great Philosophers Who Failed at Love,
The Good Reached Choice semi finalis Fifty Shames of el
Ol Gray T and sci fi's How to Survive a
Shark Nado with Other Natural unnatural Disasters.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Andrew, how are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I'm away. It's about three pm here on the West Coast.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
So very cool.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
So could you just give us a little bit about
your background and you know, how you guys sort as
an author?
Speaker 7 (03:05):
How I got started as an author? I've always sort
of been. I was always into reading as a child,
and I sort of thought that the natural thing then
was to start writing. And I didn't. I don't think
I realized early on that not everybody who who reads books,
you know, gets the inclination to also write them. I
(03:30):
just felt like a very natural progression to me. But
early on, as a child, I was very much into
horror and science fiction. Any type of mystery, any type
of genre of fiction was really what I sort of
devoured at the time. Then I took a little detour
(03:51):
in terms of I went to college where I studied
at at the University of Iowa with writers workshop students there,
which is a very it's much more of a literary
fiction sort of training, and I got into that for
(04:12):
a little bit a while, but I found myself sort
of gravitating more back towards genre fiction, young adult just
stuff that that that was sort of more entertaining, I thought.
And that's kind of where I find myself right now,
is going from maybe sort of more of a literary
nonfiction books moving more into genre stuff like the How
(04:36):
to Survive a Shark Medio.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, very cool, and that's a very important book because
we all know shark nedos can happen. So I wanted
to ask you, how did you actually pitch this book?
I mean, did you actually pitch it to sci fi
as as like, because I know in the book you
cover other of their movies too.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
The great thing about this is so I watched Sharpnado,
the first movie, and I let my agent know, I
was like, if you know, if there's like a novelization
or something, I'd love to do that. Of course there
wasn't with the first movie, but then she heard that
Random House and the Sci Fi Channel we're looking to
do something with the second movie, some type of tie in,
(05:23):
and they had the idea to do a survival guide,
sort of like the Zombie Surraval Guide by Max Brooks,
and it was something that I did, so I don't think.
I don't think originally, you know, they thought really thought
of me because I wasn't writing any type of genre
stuff at the time. I just had a parody come
out though, Fifty Shames of Earl Grade, so they kind
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of said, well, you kind of do the humor writing,
and I did a sample for it. They ended up
liking it and asked me to write the book then,
so it came together pretty fast. I had to watch
about I don't know, it was like thirty or forty
from sci fi movies to actually write the book and
(06:05):
sort of ties them all together sort of in one universe.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Okay, excellent.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
So you know when you did actually pitch the sci
fi were they really open to using all their other
movies as well, we had a.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
List to go off of. I mean I had some
that I wanted to use that we weren't able to,
but they had a list of you know somewhere probably
about fifty or sixty that they had licensing that we
could work with, and then there was just so much
that were off limits. So it was basically I had
to go with what they gave me and then sort
(06:40):
of narrow it down from there. And then we actually
ended up creating a bunch for the for the guidebooks.
So there's about ten or twelve in there. I think
that that are actually unique and original to the book.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And what's cool is because if you haven't seen all
the sci fi movies, you can actually go through and
try to figure out which ones are created and which
ones are actually real movies.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, that's that's the funny thing. I've had some people
pick up the book and go, how did you come
up with some of this crap? I'm like, I didn't.
It is this is you know, you can actually go
either like there should be a movie about this, and
I'm like, well, guess what, you know. You you can
go see a Korona condo movie and it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So could you elaborate, you know, on some of the
monsters that you wanted to use but you couldn't.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
I don't I don't even really remember exactly which ones
we couldn't use off the stack of my head, but
I know that, you know, there were we had to
sort of narrow it.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Down to.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
To what what was sort of we didn't want to
have like like thirty different shark based ones, you know,
So there were some, but we used most of the
the big sci fi channel movies that that they've done
that were kind of hits, like Shark to Puss and
Parma Conda and stuff, even Stone Atot. So it was
(08:10):
so it was there wasn't really a lot that was
left on the cutting room floor.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
I'd say, okay, interesting.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So you know, so when you're you're writing this book
and you're piecing this all together, did you actually watch
each individual movie and sort of make a list and
make a lot of notes on.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Each Oh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
I had to watch every every movie that we included three, four,
five times to really pick up everything that was going
on and kind of look at different angles and stuff.
So so it was really I approached it sort of
like I did my nonfiction books, which was just a
lot of research, and then I had to try to
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figure out scientific explanations for how some of this stuff
happened in the real world. And you know, there that's
not something they're thinking about really, and they're making the movie.
They're thinking to make something entertaining, but to write it
down in a book. I was like, I need to
come up with reasons why you know, sharks can survive
when flying around inside of a tornado. You know what,
(09:14):
how do I make that sort of believable? And so
I like talked to like a marine biologist for that,
and I was like, it was like, how did you
know is this? You know, not could this happen? But
but what's a logical way to make this, you know, happen.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
So when you when you interviewed that marine biologist, did
hear she know what shark Nado was before you talk
to them?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. The biologists spoke to She was
a she was a huge fan of these sci fi
movies actually, and and was you know, really thrilled to
answer my questions and stuff. She's like, she's like, we
really love them. They're you know, they're I don't want
to say, uh is the word terrible? I figured what
(10:00):
word she used. But I mean, they're just they're just entertaining.
You can turn your mind off while watching them.
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Speaker 7 (10:15):
And you don't have to worry about the scientific stuff
behind it. And they said this is just just for pure,
you know, entertainment value.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I was just you know, when you brought that up,
I was actually wondering, you know, if if she hadn't
heard of that, and you just want to you know, uh,
you know, could a shark and a tornado come together?
And she would have been like, could you get this
crazy man out of my office?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Please?
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I know, I know, yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
So yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
So some of that stuff, you know, was was a
lot of fun to sort of research, you know, and
then there's other stuff. I mean, I think there was
one movie that I watched that I watched it probably
ten times, and I couldn't figure out anyway not only
to make the science work in real life, but I
couldn't figure out how the science worked in the movie.
I was like, this movie doesn't really make much sense.
(11:01):
And I was like, I'm probably gonna cut this one
out of the book.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
So you know, you know you uh, now you wrote
this book during the UH and it coincided with the
release of Sharknado two, so you know, so now with
Sharknerd three coming out, you know, I wanted to ask
you what, what are.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Some of your expectations about Sharknader three.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
You know, I really didn't have any expectations even for
the second Sharknado because I hadn't hadn't seen it ahead
of time or wrote the script or anything. So the
second one itself was kind of a surprise. I kind of,
you know, had an idea of that it would kind
of be a little bit more meta than the first one,
and it was. And so the third one, I'm you know,
(11:50):
I was, I'm kind of hoping it goes a little
bit back to basics. But which is you know, really
taking the concept as seriously as possible. I think it's
something that once it gets to meta, it becomes if
everybody's in on the joke, you know, than than the
(12:11):
joke itself. Isn't that funny anymore? So I kind of
like seeing a little bit more serious, But but I
don't really know what direction they're gonna take it. Yeah,
I want to say, a more personal Sharknado film. Maybe
that's where you have to rebio the franchise.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And yeah, I really want to see a more like
uh David Lynchian Sharknado film, you know. But but yeah,
you know, I completely agree with.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
You on that point.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I you know, I also noticed that in the second
one there was a lot more celebrity cameos, like pretty much,
you know what I mean, Like every time they went somewhere,
there's a celebrity I hear. Now there's like even more
celebrities and Sharknado three, Oh.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Yeah, it's everybody wanted to want to, you know, be
in on it, be on on a joke. And I think,
you know, I don't know if it's a situation where uh,
celebrities are just contacting them and say I'll work for
no money or something, and they're like, how can we
refuse that? You know, they really can't say, you know,
if David Hasselhoff wants to be in their movie or something,
(13:19):
they for no money, it really can't say no to that.
It's not like they're courting these celebrities, I would think. So,
I mean, yeah, I think it's just gonna have It's
definitely gonna have more celebrity cameos. If you tried to
play a celebrity cameo with drinking game or something with
Sharpnado two, you would have died. I mean, there were
(13:40):
so many that are coming so fast you didn't even know.
You know, you can't even tell who was an actor,
who was a celebrity. You know it was it was.
It came pretty fast and.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Curious it did. And I think you're right too.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I think there might have been called people who who
attempted to do a drinking game, and there was It's
probably weren't so well for them. So you're jumping back
to your book, you know in the chapter you have
an entire you know chapter obviously just to shark Nado.
So you know, I have to answer a question, is
you know, how do you survive a sharknado?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
How do you survive a sharp nato. A lot of
people said just don't watch it, but I mean, I
mean this simple answer of you know, how do you
survive a shark nado is some people think, oh, well,
I survive I survive it by uh, you know, going
to the basement. The same way I'd survive a tornado,
(14:40):
which really doesn't work because a lot of times during
a sharknado you'll also have associated flying with that. The
only way to really escape it is to just drive
as fast as possible out of town, which if you're
in LA or someplace else where, there's going to be
a bunch of traffic jams or something that's just not
gonna be possible. So, you know, there's there's really no
(15:05):
good answer that you know. The answer in the book
is you know, stand and fight, you know, grab a chainsaw,
grab whatever you can, and you know, and and fight
back when these things flying at you. So, you know,
But I but personally I'm I'm not like a survivalist
or anything. I mean, I had to research survival stuff
(15:26):
for the book, but I don't, you know, I don't.
I don't. I'm so bad about falling in real life,
you know, and like I don't have like a unnatural
disaster kid, I don't have, you know, three palettes of
bulbed water stored up here, which I probably should, uh.
After reading that New Yorker article on on earthquakes on
(15:47):
the Pacific Northwest this week, So.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah, I read that same article apparently in fifty years,
Seattle is just going to be nothing.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah, Seattle is going to get the worst of it.
I think Portland, where I'm at, it's you know, it's uh,
there's gonna be some some stuff fall off the wall
or something. I don't know. It's not it's not gonna
be too bad in Portland, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
And just in case he doesn't know what Andrew and
I are talking about, I'll link to that in the
show notes so you can read up on that and
then uh, you.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Know, get scared to death. You'd be like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
So you know, uh, Andrew, I've had some some fan
questions come in if you don't mind answering a few, sure.
So the first question I received was, Andrew, what was
the most unstoppable monster that you researched for the book?
Speaker 7 (16:39):
The most unstoppable monster was the ghost shark, because there's
just really no good way to stop a ghost trage
like like there. It was actually a movie too with
with the guy from uh Bowl from Night Court. I
(17:00):
was in this movie and this shark appeared manifested anywhere
there was water, so it was in a swimming pool.
One came out of a toilet, another came out of
a bobble of water, and there was no way to
get away from it anywhere you went. I was just like,
and it never got full of eating people, so it
(17:22):
just went around and around this eating people and stuff.
And I'm like, how do you stop this thing? And
I'm trying to think of you know, there you basically
it's you have to do some elaborate ghost trapping or something.
But really it was like it was like on on on,
(17:44):
you know, on one to one level. You know, on
an individual level, there was nothing you could do to
stop it besides find the the whatever talisman it was
in the movie. So yeah, ghost try. Pretty frightening stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Now see the check that movie out, because I had
no no idea that was actually a real movie.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Oh my god. It is amazing, just just the number
of uh number there's there's this amazing bikini car wash
scene where where the ghost shark materializes out of a
bucket of water. It's it's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Uh So you know, a follow up question is, you know, Andrew,
are you playing on running a sequel to the book?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
No, no, uh And basically I think you know, I
don't I don't know what else I could say about
Shark Natos or actually about most paranormal threats or supernatural
stuff like that. But but I am working on in
another book that will hopefully be sort of along the
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similar lines as far as horror goes.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Oh, very cool.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Could you tell us a little bit about it or
you want to keep it hush hush?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
It's like super hush hush right now.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Okay, So all right, and then on to the next question.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
We had to come in from Michelle the trainer, who
was a fan of the show.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Is Andrew a scuba diver?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Conservationalist or so? I'm sorry that was the first part
of the questions. Sorry, I was just reading or reading reading.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Uh, so are you a scuba diver? Andrew?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
No, No, I've never gone Scoopa diving.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
And uh. The second part of that was any plans
for Shark de Puss?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Well, I like survival for the Shark to Puss. Yeah,
so the Shark de Puss is in the book, but
in terms of uh, the show's new movie coming out,
Shark to Purse Versus Whale Wolf, which is the third
Shark de plus movie.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
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Speaker 7 (20:08):
And which are which Again, if you haven't seen the
Shark Depus movies, those are phenomenally entertaining as well. But
in terms of how to survive as shark deplush again,
it was like I started to write some of some
of these and I was like, the best thing you
can do is just to to move as far away
(20:28):
from the coast as possible, because a lot of these
threats in the book that I wrote about were all
like sort of water based threats, And I'm like, unless
you like live in Florida or La or something or
along the coast, you're fine. But then you get inland.
And then I said, then you find yourself in Nebraska,
and I mean, I don't know you, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
So uh So the next question that came in was
if Andrew is going to create his own in sci
fi monster, what kind of monster would he create?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Well, I think that what kind of monster I would create.
I had an idea for one that was not used
in the book, and it was called a wolf Blizzard,
which was a pun on the CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer,
and it was just a Blizzard of Wolves, and that
(21:28):
actually got rejected for the book because they were like,
it's it's the pun is too far. Like it's They're like,
there's like an there's like a line that we would
never go past, and you just passed it. And I
was like, oh my god, I can't believe I found
the line where you will not cross. So but I
(21:49):
would still like to to. I was like, I was like,
I'm going to go write this script.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So for all the aspiring writers listening to this, Andrew
has just shown the line in the sand that sci
fi channel will not cross.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yes, So Andrew, I wanted to ask right now, you know,
what are your future plans on publishing. I know there's
a project that's very hush hush, but is there any
other projects you're working on or anything else you could
tell us about right now.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I'm also working on a on a young adult novel
that that's something I've been working on for a while.
I've got a few things that are like in the pipeline,
but it's just like you get a fine, you know,
find the right sort of place for them at a
publisher or either self publish it or whatever. And and
(22:42):
just got to wait for sort of the stars to align,
and until that happens, like I don't have any good
news to announce. It's kind of boring, Like it's something
my mom calls me all the time and says, oh,
when's your next book coming out? And I'm like, I
don't know. You'll be the first one to know, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
So, Andrew, I wanted to ask you too. You know
your your book Sharknado was on sale. Is it still
on sale right now?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
As of today it is for us for like a
dollar in a ninety book. I don't know how long
the sale is going.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
To last, so okay, so when this is up, I'm,
you know, hopefully I will link to Andrew's book in
the show notes. Hopefully it'll know if it's not on sale,
it's still a relatively goodbye. And I guarantee you it's
it is. You know, it's entertaining, it's hilarious, and look
at me. I've learned a lot about the Sci Fi
Channel movies because I'm I you know, I've learned about
(23:36):
ghost Shark today.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Yeah, it's it's a value at any price, you know.
And the book is like forty megabytes because it has
a bunch of drawings in it, so you know, that's
about twenty times the size of another final download for
a regular pros book.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
So I mean, you know, that's what a deal, right, yeah,
Because when I was flipping through it, I went to obviously,
I went to the shark Nado chapter and greeting me
is a you know, a black and white hand drawn
picture of a shark nadow right right right, I.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Mean, and the book's got recipes, you know, excerpts from
classic literature that I have completely trashed, such as Moe Dick.
So yeah, it's got a lot of stuff in there.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
It's got something for everybody. So, you know, Andrew, inclosing,
you know, is there anything that we didn't talk about
today that you wanted to mention or any any you know,
closing thoughts or final thoughts.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
No, my mind is, my mind is completely blank. I'm
I doing like this meditation class right now, so I'm
learning to sort of wipe away all thoughts in my mind.
You know, normally I would have one hundred things to
talk about right now, but right now it's just like
it's I'm I'm learning to zellne out.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
And go like.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
All right, Andrew, where people find you out online?
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Oh my goodness, anywhere, Twitter, Facebook, Google, you know, al
someone has to do is google my name Andrew Schaeffer
s H A F F E R. As long as
they spell it right, they can find me, you know,
which is you know, kind of disturbing.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
But I'm all over the place, and and I'll make
sure to uh to link to all that in the
show notes too.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
I'll link to your website and your Twitter.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Uh, you don't. You don't have to just make them
work for it.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Work for it, Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I will not link to Andrew's info in the show notes,
so you will have to work for it.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Then.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yes, it'll be the first time, but I will not
I promise you. I will not link to that in
the show notes. But Andrew Wannese, thank you very much
for coming on again. Everyone. It's how to Survive a
Sharknado and Other Unnatural Disasters that it's I will link
to the I will link to this and the show notes,
but it's right to the kindle version. And is there
a physical version of this book too, Andrew?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
There is there is, because you know, once once a
sharp NATO or some other type of disaster it hits
you need the physical version. You know, you can be
able to charge your phone or whatnot. So you know,
I always advise people to get the e book and
the physical version and it just to be on the
safe side.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
See, that's why you're the publisher, because that's that that
is forethought, my friend.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, you won't have that's right. So you know the
physical the the E book I have. You know, if
it does the power goes out, I won't be able
to find it. So I'll have to look into the
physical version now too. Yeah, so Andrew want to say
thank you so much for coming on. Everyone in the
book is How to Survivor Shark Nato. Andrew, thanks again
for coming on, and again feel free to you know,
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drop me an email anytime, and I love to have
you back some time.
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Speaker 7 (26:52):
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Speaker 6 (26:54):
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This is a very important podcast because we're going to
teach you in this episode to how to survive a
shark Nato. Now, Sharknado three is going to air on
the Sci Fi Channel in July the twenty second. This
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you can get even quicker preparation for battling this shark NATO.
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I know you're all very interested, so I'm going to
get right into it and without further ado. Here's the
interview with Andrew Schaeffer, author of How to Survive a
Shark Nato.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Stoting me today is Andrew Shafer.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Andrew is a humorist and New York Times best selling
author who works include The Great Philosophers Who Failed at Love,
The Good Reached Choice semi finalis Fifty Shames of el
Ol Gray T and sci fi's How to Survive a
Shark Nado with Other Natural unnatural Disasters.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Andrew, how are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I'm away. It's about three pm here on the West Coast.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
So very cool.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
So could you just give us a little bit about
your background and you know, how you guys sort as
an author?
Speaker 7 (03:05):
How I got started as an author? I've always sort
of been. I was always into reading as a child,
and I sort of thought that the natural thing then
was to start writing. And I didn't. I don't think
I realized early on that not everybody who who reads books,
you know, gets the inclination to also write them. I
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just felt like a very natural progression to me. But
early on, as a child, I was very much into
horror and science fiction. Any type of mystery, any type
of genre of fiction was really what I sort of
devoured at the time. Then I took a little detour
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in terms of I went to college where I studied
at at the University of Iowa with writers workshop students there,
which is a very it's much more of a literary
fiction sort of training, and I got into that for
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a little bit a while, but I found myself sort
of gravitating more back towards genre fiction, young adult just
stuff that that that was sort of more entertaining, I thought.
And that's kind of where I find myself right now,
is going from maybe sort of more of a literary
nonfiction books moving more into genre stuff like the How
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to Survive a Shark Medio.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, very cool, and that's a very important book because
we all know shark nedos can happen. So I wanted
to ask you, how did you actually pitch this book?
I mean, did you actually pitch it to sci fi
as as like, because I know in the book you
cover other of their movies too.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
The great thing about this is so I watched Sharpnado,
the first movie, and I let my agent know, I
was like, if you know, if there's like a novelization
or something, I'd love to do that. Of course there
wasn't with the first movie, but then she heard that
Random House and the Sci Fi Channel we're looking to
do something with the second movie, some type of tie in,
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and they had the idea to do a survival guide,
sort of like the Zombie Surraval Guide by Max Brooks,
and it was something that I did, so I don't think.
I don't think originally, you know, they thought really thought
of me because I wasn't writing any type of genre
stuff at the time. I just had a parody come
out though, Fifty Shames of Earl Grade, so they kind
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of said, well, you kind of do the humor writing,
and I did a sample for it. They ended up
liking it and asked me to write the book then,
so it came together pretty fast. I had to watch
about I don't know, it was like thirty or forty
from sci fi movies to actually write the book and
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sort of ties them all together sort of in one universe.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Okay, excellent.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
So you know when you did actually pitch the sci
fi were they really open to using all their other
movies as well, we had a.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
List to go off of. I mean I had some
that I wanted to use that we weren't able to,
but they had a list of you know somewhere probably
about fifty or sixty that they had licensing that we
could work with, and then there was just so much
that were off limits. So it was basically I had
to go with what they gave me and then sort
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of narrow it down from there. And then we actually
ended up creating a bunch for the for the guidebooks.
So there's about ten or twelve in there. I think
that that are actually unique and original to the book.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And what's cool is because if you haven't seen all
the sci fi movies, you can actually go through and
try to figure out which ones are created and which
ones are actually real movies.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, that's that's the funny thing. I've had some people
pick up the book and go, how did you come
up with some of this crap? I'm like, I didn't.
It is this is you know, you can actually go
either like there should be a movie about this, and
I'm like, well, guess what, you know. You you can
go see a Korona condo movie and it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So could you elaborate, you know, on some of the
monsters that you wanted to use but you couldn't.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
I don't I don't even really remember exactly which ones
we couldn't use off the stack of my head, but
I know that, you know, there were we had to
sort of narrow it.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Down to.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
To what what was sort of we didn't want to
have like like thirty different shark based ones, you know,
So there were some, but we used most of the
the big sci fi channel movies that that they've done
that were kind of hits, like Shark to Puss and
Parma Conda and stuff, even Stone Atot. So it was
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so it was there wasn't really a lot that was
left on the cutting room floor.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
I'd say, okay, interesting.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So you know, so when you're you're writing this book
and you're piecing this all together, did you actually watch
each individual movie and sort of make a list and
make a lot of notes on.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Each Oh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
I had to watch every every movie that we included three, four,
five times to really pick up everything that was going
on and kind of look at different angles and stuff.
So so it was really I approached it sort of
like I did my nonfiction books, which was just a
lot of research, and then I had to try to
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figure out scientific explanations for how some of this stuff
happened in the real world. And you know, there that's
not something they're thinking about really, and they're making the movie.
They're thinking to make something entertaining, but to write it
down in a book. I was like, I need to
come up with reasons why you know, sharks can survive
when flying around inside of a tornado. You know what,
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how do I make that sort of believable? And so
I like talked to like a marine biologist for that,
and I was like, it was like, how did you
know is this? You know, not could this happen? But
but what's a logical way to make this, you know, happen.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
So when you when you interviewed that marine biologist, did
hear she know what shark Nado was before you talk
to them?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. The biologists spoke to She was
a she was a huge fan of these sci fi
movies actually, and and was you know, really thrilled to
answer my questions and stuff. She's like, she's like, we
really love them. They're you know, they're I don't want
to say, uh is the word terrible? I figured what
(10:00):
word she used. But I mean, they're just they're just entertaining.
You can turn your mind off while watching them.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
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Speaker 7 (10:15):
And you don't have to worry about the scientific stuff
behind it. And they said this is just just for pure,
you know, entertainment value.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I was just you know, when you brought that up,
I was actually wondering, you know, if if she hadn't
heard of that, and you just want to you know, uh,
you know, could a shark and a tornado come together?
And she would have been like, could you get this
crazy man out of my office?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Please?
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I know, I know, yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
So yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
So some of that stuff, you know, was was a
lot of fun to sort of research, you know, and
then there's other stuff. I mean, I think there was
one movie that I watched that I watched it probably
ten times, and I couldn't figure out anyway not only
to make the science work in real life, but I
couldn't figure out how the science worked in the movie.
I was like, this movie doesn't really make much sense.
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And I was like, I'm probably gonna cut this one
out of the book.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
So you know, you know you uh, now you wrote
this book during the UH and it coincided with the
release of Sharknado two, so you know, so now with
Sharknerd three coming out, you know, I wanted to ask
you what, what are.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Some of your expectations about Sharknader three.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
You know, I really didn't have any expectations even for
the second Sharknado because I hadn't hadn't seen it ahead
of time or wrote the script or anything. So the
second one itself was kind of a surprise. I kind of,
you know, had an idea of that it would kind
of be a little bit more meta than the first one,
and it was. And so the third one, I'm you know,
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I was, I'm kind of hoping it goes a little
bit back to basics. But which is you know, really
taking the concept as seriously as possible. I think it's
something that once it gets to meta, it becomes if
everybody's in on the joke, you know, than than the
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joke itself. Isn't that funny anymore? So I kind of
like seeing a little bit more serious, But but I
don't really know what direction they're gonna take it. Yeah,
I want to say, a more personal Sharknado film. Maybe
that's where you have to rebio the franchise.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And yeah, I really want to see a more like
uh David Lynchian Sharknado film, you know. But but yeah,
you know, I completely agree with.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
You on that point.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I you know, I also noticed that in the second
one there was a lot more celebrity cameos, like pretty much,
you know what I mean, Like every time they went somewhere,
there's a celebrity I hear. Now there's like even more
celebrities and Sharknado three, Oh.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Yeah, it's everybody wanted to want to, you know, be
in on it, be on on a joke. And I think,
you know, I don't know if it's a situation where uh,
celebrities are just contacting them and say I'll work for
no money or something, and they're like, how can we
refuse that? You know, they really can't say, you know,
if David Hasselhoff wants to be in their movie or something,
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they for no money, it really can't say no to that.
It's not like they're courting these celebrities, I would think. So,
I mean, yeah, I think it's just gonna have It's
definitely gonna have more celebrity cameos. If you tried to
play a celebrity cameo with drinking game or something with
Sharpnado two, you would have died. I mean, there were
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so many that are coming so fast you didn't even know.
You know, you can't even tell who was an actor,
who was a celebrity. You know it was it was.
It came pretty fast and.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Curious it did. And I think you're right too.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I think there might have been called people who who
attempted to do a drinking game, and there was It's
probably weren't so well for them. So you're jumping back
to your book, you know in the chapter you have
an entire you know chapter obviously just to shark Nado.
So you know, I have to answer a question, is
you know, how do you survive a sharknado?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
How do you survive a sharp nato. A lot of
people said just don't watch it, but I mean, I
mean this simple answer of you know, how do you
survive a shark nado is some people think, oh, well,
I survive I survive it by uh, you know, going
to the basement. The same way I'd survive a tornado,
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which really doesn't work because a lot of times during
a sharknado you'll also have associated flying with that. The
only way to really escape it is to just drive
as fast as possible out of town, which if you're
in LA or someplace else where, there's going to be
a bunch of traffic jams or something that's just not
gonna be possible. So, you know, there's there's really no
(15:05):
good answer that you know. The answer in the book
is you know, stand and fight, you know, grab a chainsaw,
grab whatever you can, and you know, and and fight
back when these things flying at you. So, you know,
But I but personally I'm I'm not like a survivalist
or anything. I mean, I had to research survival stuff
(15:26):
for the book, but I don't, you know, I don't.
I don't. I'm so bad about falling in real life,
you know, and like I don't have like a unnatural
disaster kid, I don't have, you know, three palettes of
bulbed water stored up here, which I probably should, uh.
After reading that New Yorker article on on earthquakes on
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the Pacific Northwest this week, So.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah, I read that same article apparently in fifty years,
Seattle is just going to be nothing.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah, Seattle is going to get the worst of it.
I think Portland, where I'm at, it's you know, it's uh,
there's gonna be some some stuff fall off the wall
or something. I don't know. It's not it's not gonna
be too bad in Portland, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
And just in case he doesn't know what Andrew and
I are talking about, I'll link to that in the
show notes so you can read up on that and
then uh, you.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Know, get scared to death. You'd be like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
So you know, uh, Andrew, I've had some some fan
questions come in if you don't mind answering a few, sure.
So the first question I received was, Andrew, what was
the most unstoppable monster that you researched for the book?
Speaker 7 (16:39):
The most unstoppable monster was the ghost shark, because there's
just really no good way to stop a ghost trage
like like there. It was actually a movie too with
with the guy from uh Bowl from Night Court. I
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was in this movie and this shark appeared manifested anywhere
there was water, so it was in a swimming pool.
One came out of a toilet, another came out of
a bobble of water, and there was no way to
get away from it anywhere you went. I was just like,
and it never got full of eating people, so it
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just went around and around this eating people and stuff.
And I'm like, how do you stop this thing? And
I'm trying to think of you know, there you basically
it's you have to do some elaborate ghost trapping or something.
But really it was like it was like on on on,
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you know, on one to one level. You know, on
an individual level, there was nothing you could do to
stop it besides find the the whatever talisman it was
in the movie. So yeah, ghost try. Pretty frightening stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Now see the check that movie out, because I had
no no idea that was actually a real movie.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Oh my god. It is amazing, just just the number
of uh number there's there's this amazing bikini car wash
scene where where the ghost shark materializes out of a
bucket of water. It's it's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Uh So you know, a follow up question is, you know, Andrew,
are you playing on running a sequel to the book?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
No, no, uh And basically I think you know, I
don't I don't know what else I could say about
Shark Natos or actually about most paranormal threats or supernatural
stuff like that. But but I am working on in
another book that will hopefully be sort of along the
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similar lines as far as horror goes.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Oh, very cool.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Could you tell us a little bit about it or
you want to keep it hush hush?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
It's like super hush hush right now.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Okay, So all right, and then on to the next question.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
We had to come in from Michelle the trainer, who
was a fan of the show.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
Is Andrew a scuba diver?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Conservationalist or so? I'm sorry that was the first part
of the questions. Sorry, I was just reading or reading reading.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Uh, so are you a scuba diver? Andrew?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
No, No, I've never gone Scoopa diving.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
And uh. The second part of that was any plans
for Shark de Puss?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Well, I like survival for the Shark to Puss. Yeah,
so the Shark de Puss is in the book, but
in terms of uh, the show's new movie coming out,
Shark to Purse Versus Whale Wolf, which is the third
Shark de plus movie.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
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Speaker 7 (20:08):
And which are which Again, if you haven't seen the
Shark Depus movies, those are phenomenally entertaining as well. But
in terms of how to survive as shark deplush again,
it was like I started to write some of some
of these and I was like, the best thing you
can do is just to to move as far away
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from the coast as possible, because a lot of these
threats in the book that I wrote about were all
like sort of water based threats, And I'm like, unless
you like live in Florida or La or something or
along the coast, you're fine. But then you get inland.
And then I said, then you find yourself in Nebraska,
and I mean, I don't know you, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
So uh So the next question that came in was
if Andrew is going to create his own in sci
fi monster, what kind of monster would he create?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Well, I think that what kind of monster I would create.
I had an idea for one that was not used
in the book, and it was called a wolf Blizzard,
which was a pun on the CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer,
and it was just a Blizzard of Wolves, and that
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actually got rejected for the book because they were like,
it's it's the pun is too far. Like it's They're like,
there's like an there's like a line that we would
never go past, and you just passed it. And I
was like, oh my god, I can't believe I found
the line where you will not cross. So but I
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would still like to to. I was like, I was like,
I'm going to go write this script.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So for all the aspiring writers listening to this, Andrew
has just shown the line in the sand that sci
fi channel will not cross.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yes, So Andrew, I wanted to ask right now, you know,
what are your future plans on publishing. I know there's
a project that's very hush hush, but is there any
other projects you're working on or anything else you could
tell us about right now.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I'm also working on a on a young adult novel
that that's something I've been working on for a while.
I've got a few things that are like in the pipeline,
but it's just like you get a fine, you know,
find the right sort of place for them at a
publisher or either self publish it or whatever. And and
(22:42):
just got to wait for sort of the stars to align,
and until that happens, like I don't have any good
news to announce. It's kind of boring, Like it's something
my mom calls me all the time and says, oh,
when's your next book coming out? And I'm like, I
don't know. You'll be the first one to know, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
So, Andrew, I wanted to ask you too. You know
your your book Sharknado was on sale. Is it still
on sale right now?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
As of today it is for us for like a
dollar in a ninety book. I don't know how long
the sale is going.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
To last, so okay, so when this is up, I'm,
you know, hopefully I will link to Andrew's book in
the show notes. Hopefully it'll know if it's not on sale,
it's still a relatively goodbye. And I guarantee you it's
it is. You know, it's entertaining, it's hilarious, and look
at me. I've learned a lot about the Sci Fi
Channel movies because I'm I you know, I've learned about
(23:36):
ghost Shark today.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Yeah, it's it's a value at any price, you know.
And the book is like forty megabytes because it has
a bunch of drawings in it, so you know, that's
about twenty times the size of another final download for
a regular pros book.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
So I mean, you know, that's what a deal, right, yeah,
Because when I was flipping through it, I went to obviously,
I went to the shark Nado chapter and greeting me
is a you know, a black and white hand drawn
picture of a shark nadow right right right, I.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Mean, and the book's got recipes, you know, excerpts from
classic literature that I have completely trashed, such as Moe Dick.
So yeah, it's got a lot of stuff in there.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
It's got something for everybody. So, you know, Andrew, inclosing,
you know, is there anything that we didn't talk about
today that you wanted to mention or any any you know,
closing thoughts or final thoughts.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
No, my mind is, my mind is completely blank. I'm
I doing like this meditation class right now, so I'm
learning to sort of wipe away all thoughts in my mind.
You know, normally I would have one hundred things to
talk about right now, but right now it's just like
it's I'm I'm learning to zellne out.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
And go like.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
All right, Andrew, where people find you out online?
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Oh my goodness, anywhere, Twitter, Facebook, Google, you know, al
someone has to do is google my name Andrew Schaeffer
s H A F F E R. As long as
they spell it right, they can find me, you know,
which is you know, kind of disturbing.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
But I'm all over the place, and and I'll make
sure to uh to link to all that in the
show notes too.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
I'll link to your website and your Twitter.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Uh, you don't. You don't have to just make them
work for it.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Work for it, Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I will not link to Andrew's info in the show notes,
so you will have to work for it.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Then.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yes, it'll be the first time, but I will not
I promise you. I will not link to that in
the show notes. But Andrew Wannese, thank you very much
for coming on again. Everyone. It's how to Survive a
Sharknado and Other Unnatural Disasters that it's I will link
to the I will link to this and the show notes,
but it's right to the kindle version. And is there
a physical version of this book too, Andrew?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
There is there is, because you know, once once a
sharp NATO or some other type of disaster it hits
you need the physical version. You know, you can be
able to charge your phone or whatnot. So you know,
I always advise people to get the e book and
the physical version and it just to be on the
safe side.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
See, that's why you're the publisher, because that's that that
is forethought, my friend.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, you won't have that's right. So you know the
physical the the E book I have. You know, if
it does the power goes out, I won't be able
to find it. So I'll have to look into the
physical version now too. Yeah, so Andrew want to say
thank you so much for coming on. Everyone in the
book is How to Survivor Shark Nato. Andrew, thanks again
for coming on, and again feel free to you know,
(26:49):
drop me an email anytime, and I love to have
you back some time.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Great family chatting with you, Dave.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Oh you too, my friend. Take care of everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I want to thank Dave so much for doing such
a great job on this episode. If you want to
get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
head over to the show notes at.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Indie film huscle dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Forward slash eight hundred and if you have it already,
please head over to Filmmaking podcast dot com, subscribe and
leave a good review.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
For the show. It really helps us out a lot, guys.
Thank you again so much for listening.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Guys, as always, keep that hustle going, keep that dream alive,
Stay safe out there, and I'll talk to you soon.
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