Inner Journey with Greg Friedman welcomes Paul David

Inner Journey with Greg Friedman welcomes Paul David. Paul is a Minneapolis business man, reader and musician. He is the kind of multi-dimensional  being that is becoming more and more common.  He has one foot in the normy world, another in the woo woo world and yet another as a Minnesota-based musician. All of these different aspects of his life in a way that promotes bring a grounded balance to his ability to be of service.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, this is Greg Bradon, Jack Canfield, Mariam Williamson, James
VM PROD. Hi everyone, this is Neil Donald Walsh and
I'm happy to tell you that.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
You're listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman. Stick around.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Your life will change any minute, your life could change it.
Anybody welcome. You are listening to Inner Journey with Greg
Friedman on k xf M broadcast from Laguna Beach, California,

(00:38):
for Laguna Beach, Kelafornia and for the world. All right, y'all,
you know the gig, sex, relationships, dream, interpretation, personal growth,
we talk about it all. We don't tell you what
to do, and we don't tell you how to do it,

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and there's a very very good reason for that. It's
not our lives, it's your life. And one of the
greatest gifts that we have as humans is the gift
of choice. And it's your choice to choose the day,
choose the day's divinity, or to defer to your lower frequency,

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to your lower self, or even to not make a choice,
which is, as we all know, a choice in and
of itself. What we do with this program is very simple.
We introduce you to pathway some possibilities with one intention
help you understand that you are the magic, and we

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just get to help you realize it. And we'll be
back with more Inner Journey and our guest Paul David
right after this.

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you know what did?

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Everybody's trying to tell myself and I'm I'm thinking I've
had enough, my my I'm selling a baby that alone
can paton from having them come.

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Come, come on, come on, say God.

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Bringing down the little bit.

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In the house.

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I know he.

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Had another little face of my home. No favor.

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For you knowing you got it.

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If it makes you feel cool.

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Ya, you're out on the streets look good and maybe
deep down in your home.

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I guess you're knowing Itiver.

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Now I haven't haven't.

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I haven't haven't have a here man when I cry,
when I call.

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The time, but it's time, I tell myself.

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And when a case out and pacelling your whole.

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I'm saying again that ye say, I'm not alone. No
lamb no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
No, You'll know you got it, sir.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
If it makes you think.

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David too.

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Cold, saying another little.

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Piece of my own, No, baby, Brither, bring Anne a
little bit in my home.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I have another little piece in the horn, you know, baby?

Speaker 6 (05:29):
Oh, you know you got it?

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Say say another little facing the horn. No, my girl,
say not a little bit in my don ha done
a little facing the home now, baby, heaven you know
you got it. Shouda it makes you feel.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Social media is Inner Journey with Greg Friedman, and the
website is Greg Friedman dot com. And you are listening
to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman, broadcast from Laguna Beach,
California on k xf M. All right, y'all, there are
so many things going on in the world. There has

(06:25):
been a solar storm like nobody's business this last three
or four days. And you know, some people are gonna
say that solar flares, they just affect the electromagnetic considerations
some of our frequencies for broadcasting or communication, but they

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will absolutely deny that it has any effect on humans.
Now there are other people they're gonna say it could
cause people to have feeling of being disconnected. Or low,
or making them feel fragile or out of balance or

(07:08):
incredibly sensitive or reactive. And I'll tell you fall sure
that was me this week. I don't know about you,
but man, man, now think about it for a second.
There's going to be things that affect everything else around

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us but not us. How likely is that? It's okay
if you don't believe that to be the case. If
you don't, what I'm gonna ask you to do is
think of it in terms of weather. And I'm not
asking you to go become chicken little. The solar storms

(07:52):
are coming. The solar storms are coming, and so I
should hide inside, and I should be afraid, and I
should recoil and make myself all bundled in and safe
and insulated and armored up because it's scary and I
should be afraid. No, I'd like you to understand. What
I'm doing my best to promote is awareness. If you

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understand that the pull of the moon or the eclipse,
or seasons or weather has an effect on us, why
wouldn't it be appropriate or serve us to be aware
of that and act in accordance to what's appropriate for us.

(08:37):
Let me give you a more specific example with whether
you look outside, you get on your phone or the
news and you see what the temperature is. Well, today
in Laguna Beach it has been friggin' freezing overcasts and
it's like from where I'm walking near the ocean, i
could barely see the sea and I'm less than one

(08:59):
hundred yards away from it. Inland, I have friends that
are complaining because it's one hundred degrees. It's even more
and they're going, oh, it's hot, and what I'm saying
people here are going, oh it's cold. Well, okay, that's
exactly what I'm talking about. One person's hot and another

(09:19):
person's cold. Neither is right or wrong. However, are you
aware of it, and then you make choices accordingly it's cold. Well,
some people like my crazy brother, he's in temperatures like
this and he's running around in shorts and a T shirt.
I think he's bonkers. Me I look like the kid
from Christmas Story. I got twelve layers on and I

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am bundled up beyond belief. And then if it's raining,
people are going to be umbrella up, or they're going
to be running to the car, or they're going to
be in coats or they're going to be again like
my brother out there in shorts and a T shirt.
Do you dance with it? Do you rush through it?
Do you just stroll? It's not important what your choice is. However,

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it is important that you make a choice. And a
choice is not a prison sentence. You can always choose differently.
You could always choose in a way that serves you.
Give you another example. You may and you know, personally,

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for me, I never understood this. For some reason, the
world goes crazy over tacos. I don't want to get
emails because I'm not crazy about tacos. It's okay, it's
just not my thing. So you love tacos, but you
go into a restaurant, it doesn't mean that you're going
to order tacos every single day. You go into the rain,
it doesn't mean you're gonna splash in the puddles every

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single day. It doesn't mean you're gonna rush to the
car every single day, or to the office, or to
wherever you happen to be going. It becomes a presence process.
What do you choose? Because in choosing, you're choosing to
relate to the universe. You're choosing to become the individual

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that is a part of the universe. You are choosing
your life. And that's as simple as it needs to
be in order for you to recognize how empowered you are,
how strong you are, how beautiful you are, how capable
you are when you allow yourself to choose instead of

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to react, when you allow yourself to be aware of
what's going on. Imagine that same person storm is coming
up like crazy and they're going it's not raining, Well,
what are they going to do? They're gonna get soaked.
If you get soaked by choice, that's groovy, that's empowered.

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If you get soaked because you cannot see or you're
in denial, it doesn't serve you, and it just makes
you wet. And I'm asking you to day an every
day to understand that life is just a series of

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seemingly insignificant minute choices that wind up building something that
is incredibly beautiful. And what I build is going to
be different than you build. And it's not important that
we're the same. I cannot begin to tell you how
important that aspect is. It's not important that we are

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the same. It our life is full of more flavor
and dimension and color and frequency when we can see
another and instead of looking at them as an adversary,
we look at them as an opportunity. Allow yourself to
choose from a place of awareness, and we'll be back

(13:07):
with more inner Journey and our guest Paul David right after.

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being above.

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I was taken, aback.

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I just accepted the best pine our baby.

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You'll almost face it all time, baby, our baby, you're
drama crocy.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Oh you never begin. Look, I'm never breaks.

Speaker 15 (14:08):
I'm on the time. Oh my god, I just never
forgave my love. I'm never braking love. You never forget.

Speaker 14 (14:26):
When you're roll your nine o five, think about me,
I'll be thinking about you.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
I'll be on the poll repigsy.

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About the time we drove for all night, brou I
you lost Princy.

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Oh the time you'll baby all by your charming.

Speaker 15 (14:56):
Quan see, never forget my love. I never be breaking.
So I'm at the time. I look, I don't.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Just never forget. Hello, I'm never begreak it solo never.

Speaker 14 (15:49):
A baby, Los Ray said, Oh time, believe me all
baby trying say.

Speaker 15 (16:02):
Never forga never I'm on the town mout an. He's
never forgame, I never be brave, I never beginning.

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Again. You even though sometimes a long see I just
case sad, you.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Just never forgave.

Speaker 12 (16:51):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
This is James Redfield, author of the Celsiane Prophecy, and
you're listening to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman. Alright, you guys.
As I said, social media is in a Journey with
Greg Friedman, and the website is Gregfriedman dot com. Our

(17:13):
guest this evening is Paul David. Paul David is ol
kind of weirdo that I aspire to be. What I
mean by that is he has one foot very solidly
in the business world, and he has one foot very
solidly in the woo woo world. And he has another

(17:36):
foot because I told you it was weird. What do
you want from me? He has another foot solidly in
the world of music. And the truth is they all
work for him because ultimately it's his way of being
an artist embodied on this planet to live in such
a way to be of service and to help as

(17:57):
many people through the way they he knows how, which
is ultimately what we all strive to do when we're
awake and aware. Paul welcome to Inner Journey.

Speaker 16 (18:09):
Hey, Greg, thank you so much. I am thrilled to
be here and thanks for that amazing introduction. And yeah,
free legs. I can go with that. You know.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
The only reason I get away with that is been
I've known Paul for a little bit. All right, Paul,
I'm gonna jump in same question I ask every single guest,
which is, we've had everybody and their cousin on this program,
and to a person, whether they're Don, Miguel Ruiz or
Joe Schmo, it's every single person has had some kind

(18:44):
of incredible catalyst that's thrust them on a significant aspect
of their journey. Something sometimes near death experiences, sometimes believe
it or not, UFOs, sometimes something that we would think
maybe mundane, but was in vidably significant on their path.
What are you going to share with our listeners this evening?

Speaker 16 (19:05):
Yeah, So I was thinking about this because I listened
to your show quite a bit, and you know, the
actual catalyst. I'm going to back up just a little
bit to lead into that. So, I've always been religious.
My family grew up Presbyterians. It's pretty finky religion, so
we weren't really worried about the life and death, salvation.
It was just we went to church, you know, it's Presbyterian.

(19:27):
We didn't touch but we had a lovely time and
salvation and God and all that was just really in
the books. Then I got to college and the first
the first experience I remember, I was sitting on the
far side of a room for a required course and
freshmen and this person walked in. And this is like
so strange because it was almost like a movie where

(19:48):
the spotlight closes in on this person, and I remember
thinking it was like a voice that wasn't my own
said I know you. And it turns out I didn't
meet this person for three more months and it ended
up being my roommate David. We became great friends and
this sort of became boyfriends. That was a surprise to
a lot of people, and you know, to you, yeah,

(20:11):
it actually.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Was the only person white slow down just a little
bit because WHOA, I want to catch everything you're saying.

Speaker 16 (20:17):
If you don't mind, sure, Yeah, So it was a
surprise to me. That was not how life was supposed
to go. I was raised in a suburban place here
in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul, and
I was going to get married and have kids because
that was what was expected of me, and so imagine
my surprise when that didn't turn out to be exactly

(20:41):
how things went. And this person was part of that
journey when I met David, which is part of the
reason I go by Paul David, although it is my
middle name, is for to honor him. But it was
an experience of I know you like on a level
that I couldn't explain because I didn't know this person.
They grew up in a different part of the country.

(21:02):
But what I would consider my first connection with something
that I would refer to as a soulmate. And soulmates
aren't always what we think they are. They're not necessarily
just love and romance and oh my god, life is wonderful.
Soulmates are put into our lives as a catalyst to
help us see and change part of our journey, to

(21:23):
get us back on a path that we should be
going on. And David in fact served that role in
a way that was not what I would have thought
back in college. So the moment that I would consider
a catalyst for change, that seeing that I know you
comment that went through my head was a precursor.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
But wait one second, No, don't even do that. We're
going to take a short break, and when we come back,
we're going to leave you just hanging here so we
could hear the rest of Paul's story. You are listening
to Inner Journey with Greg Friedman, and we'll be back
right after this.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
If I could keep this morning the johny, I take
a life time making the choice.

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Busy. You'll stand out over the sun of your.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Make that to life.

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Here between the things that you're doing and about to
me ride now, I.

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See wat.

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Ah still.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Need you. I live in die now with you. He
has It's been.

Speaker 11 (23:01):
Said to Fellen, never more true.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Maybe it take this much time to.

Speaker 16 (23:12):
That?

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Isn't only one?

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Only one.

Speaker 11 (23:18):
Between the time I spend offering your eyes and the
way that you're looking at me now, I could never.

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Choose joff one in me jo.

Speaker 18 (23:36):
Once see imds of you, fae image of you, one.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Image of you.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Welcome back. You are listening to KXFM one oh four
point seven broadcast from Laguna Beach, California. For the entire universe. No,
I kid you, not the entire universe. We are here
with Paul David and Paul as I said earlier, is

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an amazing combination of being able to navigate the normy
world and the wou world, which ain't easy, and he
does both with grace and elegance. Paul, welcome back, Thank
you so much.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
All right, backing up just a little bit, if you
don't mind, we're talking about cattlest in your life and
you were talking about your life was fairly air quotation
March regular until you got to college. You sit down
in a class and it becomes oh, and a light
shines on this person and you look at them, and.

Speaker 16 (25:12):
What runs through my head in a voice that I
would not consider my own, is I know you. And
it's really odd because I didn't meet him for three
more months, grew up in a different part of the country.
It's not like we ran into each other at a
mall and I would have been, oh, yeah, I know you.

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It was just unknowing that was new for me. That
was the first time something like that has ever happened
to me. It happened again and then more often when
I figured out what it was. But at that moment
in time, that was like a new experience and it
was something that steered me down a path that would

(25:54):
ultimately lead me to where I am today. But I
didn't really know that at the time, and that was
just really an interesting place to be. It was an
interesting experience that I didn't expect because to your point,
my life was supposed to be, you know, wife to kids,
a dog, a pick offence. That was the Norman Rockwell
version of what I expected my life to evolve to

(26:15):
the universe said, surprise, we got something new for you.
And I took to it like a fish to water,
I guess. But that was the first moment that was
really a catalyst because of what it led to. We
became roommates, we became best friends, and then ultimately became

(26:35):
boyfriends as we both tried to figure out you know
who and how we loved. I couldn't be gay. It
was not an option for me, and so it was
rather a surprise that that was more than an option
for me. And so I dated men and women as
I tried to figure this out. And David, how I

(26:56):
consider my soulmate, was part of that equation you had.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Would you say you had some idea you were gay
and he or no idea. He was the one that
maybe earlier in the program. I talked about awareness in
order to make choices from a different place. Are you
suggesting that he was a catalyst for awareness or were
you aware of it? In denial?

Speaker 16 (27:25):
Great question. I was unaware of it. I was pretty
much the vestal virgin until I got to college and
went through the experiences that I was supposed to go through,
because I, quote unquote was supposed to go through them,
and David wasn't my first experience. That happened a couple

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months beforehand, so I was aware that that was maybe
an option when David came into my world, But it
was more the connection of a deep Oh I want
to say, I would hesitate to use the word love,
except that's what it was.

Speaker 19 (28:05):
You know.

Speaker 16 (28:05):
It was one of those things where I grew very
attached in a way that I was maybe not healthy
in all transparency, But at the time I didn't know
how to navigate that, and it felt different from other
relationships I had been in, and so that's what I
really felt. He was part of me understanding or coming
to terms with that maybe love doesn't always look like

(28:29):
that textbook I had been told. It looked like maybe
there was something different, And for that I fully give
him credit for opening me up to that experience.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And it's interesting because you said, what was it? How
did you frame it? It's that I became attached and
maybe that wasn't healthy. Well, I've never known those two
words to really coexist well with one another.

Speaker 16 (28:54):
One.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Now, this is fascinating. And how does it eventually transmute
transgress evolve into you becoming a reader, you becoming a
you know who you became later in the spiritual world

(29:18):
and in the normally world. And also it didn't stop
you from going to services, did it? No?

Speaker 16 (29:26):
No, for sure. So all through college I was actually
a choir director for a Methodist church and my school
was in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, so smaller town than the
Twin Cities. I was in music education was my original
major until I found out, yeah, I don't really like
kids too much, so I changed true story, so I

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changed it to performance and I was one of the
only drummers there and getting pulled into a lot of ensembles.
So I was still going to service and church music
was a very important part of my life. In fact,
I still work with local churches here in the Twin Cities.
I was just delivering a sermon a couple of weeks ago.
I'm ordained minister with the Universal Life Church. We'll get

(30:09):
to that in a minute. But I was still doing
all of that. And the moment that really is the
absolute catalyst, the moment that I would say I would
define as the moment that my life changed went on
a different path, was the Thanksgiving morning nineteen ninety one.
I was working at a local department store as a
food service manager. So I graduated a degree in percussion

(30:32):
performance and found out that not everyone wanted a classical
marimbus my area of expertise. I was shot tore. That
wasn't yeah, they weren't like knocking on my door. So
I got into a food service which my first job
was in food service, and so I knew how to
do it. It was a way to provide some abundance
while I tried to figure out my head for my fanny.

(30:53):
And so I was black Friday working getting the food
ready for the customer, and the phone rings and the
employees to answered it and they called me over. It
was for me, it was my mom. Well, it turns
out that Thanksgiving night, on the way home from visiting
his family in Iowa, David was killed in a car
accident and my head literally exploded. It's well, okay, metaphorically figuratively,

(31:20):
we'll go with that. It was a moment though, that
I just I went I would say, go crazy. I
was like, I remember pacing in the office. All I
was saying was no, no, no, no, no, and the
staff was trying to call me down. I remember driving
home from this mall to my apartment at the time,
screaming at the top of my lugs in the freeway.
It was just a truly surreal experience. When friends came

(31:44):
over later to comfort me, they noticed that like half
of my face was purple. It affected me so deeply.
And the interesting thing is, at the time of David's death,
we weren't together. In fact, I was in a destructive
relationship figuring out how that worked, and he was engaged
to be married to a woman. And we had actually
had a meeting a couple months earlier and walked around

(32:05):
the lake here in the Twin Cities and talked about
actually running away together to try to just change our stars,
change our destiny. Didn't end up happening. It was a wonderful,
wonderful day. Soul level soul deep conversation, and that's the
last time I saw him alive. But that moment was
a catalyst for me. After the funeral, I remember being
in that same kitchen in that restaurant making egg salad.

(32:28):
Believe it or not, I can remember. It was an
egg salad recipe and I was peeling the eggs and
I just suddenly this thought came to me. You know,
you are off exploring the universe and I'm here making
egg salad. Something is wrong with this picture. And that
began my quest to understand what is this thing called God?
What is this thing called life? Because when I was
raised in a church, I get people die. That wasn't

(32:51):
the problem. It's just that it was people that were
supposed to die, people that were sick or old, not
someone in the time of their life, and definitely not
someone whom I loved. I loved him. That wasn't really
an option. And so that began a quest to understand
what is it all about? Started out, of course, with
the Bible, rereading the passages, trying to glean understanding, But

(33:13):
then I realized that wasn't really answering all my questions,
and so I started reading other sacred texts that are
parts of the Koran, A little dry but okay book
a Mormon again little dry, the Bodda Vita, the Da
Da Ching. I began expanding my search to try to
find the answer of how well, how could I explain this,

(33:33):
this death and how it affected me? Because that wasn't
supposed to happen that Again, here's another thing that wasn't
in the playscript that I thought I had right. The
universe is throwing me something new to try to figure out,
and I was fascinated by it. I just devoured it.
And I stumbled across Embraced by the Light by Betty
j Edy, a near death experience book, and that began

(33:55):
to offer some hope, some understanding, some light, or least
sparked a deeper curiosity. And so I read a lot
of books about near death experiences, trying to figure out
what happens when we die. So David is dead. I
can get my head around that to a degree, but
what happens and how does that affect us as we
live on this plane? And so I really began reading

(34:17):
and studying and understanding, which led me to a person
here in the Twin Cities by the name of Echobodin,
who is a ghostbuster, psychic medium, and a healer and
has written several books, and so I started reading her books.
And these books were about a local the Minneapolis thing.
I could suddenly get my head around it. So there
is something else here that I can go learn and

(34:41):
maybe try to understand. So I took some psychic development
classes from Echo and there were great classes. They explored
all different aspects and all different modalities, and Carol was
one of them. Didn't really resonate with me at the time,
but it was cool. Psychometry was kind of cool, you know,
touching things and seeing things. I really didn't know what

(35:02):
I was going to do with that, and so I
put it aside. I took a hands on healing class
that really didn't resonate, but it was cool information, and
I began to be opened up to new ways of
thinking about source energy, about God, about our connections between
each other. Wasn't until I had a reading with a
medium who was actually able to connect me with David,

(35:23):
and it wasn't something, and I was skeptical. I'd never
I've never heard of mediums. I'd heard of the show
Medium and all that kind of stuff, but I'd never
had an experience with it, so like, oh, it was
well the first encounter, my very first ever experience with
the medium. We were at a book signing for this
gentleman's book and my husband was with me, and we

(35:47):
were sitting in the back of the place in a
Barnes and Noble in a suburb here in the Twin Cities,
and this person gave a demonstration of how their gifts worked,
and they were doing some readings and suddenly this gentleman said,
I'm getting a Lilian, and my husband elbows me in
the science says that's her grandmother, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

(36:07):
that's not accurate, that can't be. And then he brought
forth a CWL which was my grandfather's initials, Carl William Layton,
and like that's super weird and that's just got to
be a coincidence. And then I raised my hand and said, yeah,
I'm identifying with it, and he lookt me square in
the face and said, and who's Barbara. And Barbara is

(36:27):
my mother's sister, my grandmother's daughter, who is on a
different spiritual path than I am. She is a Jehovah's
witness and definitely would not abscribe to psychics and mediums.
And the first words that come out of a medium's
mouth is her name, and that was you know, it
was mind blowing because how could anyone know that we're
sitting in at Barnes and Noble. We didn't know at

(36:49):
eight o'clock in the morning that we were going to
be there at noon for this book signing, right, and
how can that happen? So that just opened a lot
of curiosity. When I finally connected with the medium for
reading and they brought through David. When the reading was done,
I felt a weight had lifted that I didn't know
I carried for like thirty years.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Wait wait, wait, So you look up a medium, you
make an employment, you walk into their office well, I
don't know what you'd want to call it there, whatever
their setting, and you sit down and what happens.

Speaker 16 (37:26):
So this was actually a phone reading by the person
who was the author of the book, again connected through
Echobdi inter Center. So what happens is we sit down,
we go through this experience and he starts by saying,
you know, I'm going to do a centering prayer and
then I'm just going to start bringing through what I
get Okay, that's cool. And this particular medium happened to

(37:48):
be an evidentiary medium, which means they bring through facts
and details to prove what's going on. So this one,
this person's very good with names, right, and so it
starts bringing through like a latent I mean, not just
like an l name. It's sort of like mail. I
mean this individual is like Layton, Lilian, Jim, Joanne, I
mean like popping names off like nothing. And there's no

(38:11):
possible way that. I mean, they probably could have looked
me up on Facebook, but not all the details because
Lillian and Layton my grandparents, they're not there, and how
is this possible? Just sitting there thinking about that and
trying to get my head around, there's something going on
here that I don't understand, and that makes me really

(38:33):
curious because I want to understand it. But it also
ties into my quest to understand what is this thing
called life and what is this thing called death? Suddenly
I'm I mean, we talk about Easter Sunday in the
resurrection in Eternal life, and so that's not supposed to
be a surprise. But that's just church, right, that's not real.
Oh yeah, it's real. But when you're confronted with not

(38:56):
some mythical character being alive, but someone that you knew
and that you interacted with in this incarnation, that is
mind blowing and life changing.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
And how did David get into this reading?

Speaker 16 (39:09):
So we were reading through things and this medium said,
so I'm getting someone who died young, Like, okay, I
can't get my head around that. And when you're doing
a reading, generally you don't give much information unless they
ask for some clarification just to make it make sense
in their mind. So I'm giving nothing right, And it's like, okay,
I'm feeling like about twenty five and I'm feeling they

(39:32):
were killed in a car accident. And I'm getting a
d name a David. Does that resonate with you? And
I'm paraphrasing the reading, but it was something like that, Yeah,
that does, And then talked about there's a connection here,
there's a connection about you were close to each other,
but not really at the end, like Potter percent, we

(39:53):
were absolutely in touch, but we weren't in a relationship
at the end. We were just simply you know, on
each other's phone, so to speak, you know, And that
that's how David worked into it and only to find
out that and this is sort of the expected part
of I'm reading that yes he loves you and yes
he's fine. You know, that's sort of what you come
to find. But the details of the accident, the age,

(40:15):
the fact that we weren't together, that's things you that
aren't normally said. I had a reading with another medium
because I was exploring this whole genre now at this
point because now I'm cooked, this is exciting and this
is different, and was taking a class with the gentleman
by the name of James Bond. Progue is pretty well known.
I think it's probably been on your show. Yeah, we

(40:36):
were doing a soul journey class and I got to
call in and we did this whole little thing and
at the very end, he goes, do you have a dog?
And I'm like yeah, he goes, did you just change
its dog food? And I had to just stop in
my tracks because in fact, we had. But why would
someone thousands of miles away over the phone, of all

(40:58):
the details in the entire higher free world bring forth
the fact that we had changed our dog's food. It
is so insignificant, But that's what makes it the most significant,
because it doesn't matter. And so to bring up a
detail like that that was one hundred percent accurate, but
you know, fifty fifty chance cat dog dog right? Change

(41:21):
of food, not change of food? Fifty fifty chance again,
But why would you even think of food? Wouldn't you
think of like grooming or took it for a walk,
or it loves you? But no, specifically you change the
dog's food. That made that so much more important. That
gave it weight for me. And that sounds silly. It's
I love you, your your family is good. That's that's

(41:41):
what we expect to hear. But it's those little details
that bring it home and let you know that there
is something else going on that maybe we haven't been
told everything.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
And how did this reading eventually lead to your own practice?

Speaker 16 (42:01):
Great question? So I set out to be a psychic
medium because that made me feel good. And again, I've
been in church work my whole life, usually in music
programs and things, and so teaching and all that kind
of stuff kind of comes naturally. I enjoy that aspect
of it, but I wanted to I wanted to help
people feel the way that I felt in that reading.

(42:22):
But I don't really get a lot in that realm.
Occasionally I would you get some hints, but it was
just it wasn't something that just opened up naturally. And
so I was looking for something. But I knew I
had gifts. I knew I had guests for teaching, and
I know I'm a good counselor. I talk to people,
I can interact with people. I have a vast knowledge

(42:42):
of spirituality from all my studying, So what am I
going to do with that? Well, so I hired this
incredible individual to help me break out of my zone
and figure out what that was. And I think you
might know him, Greg, because it's you, And I'm so
appreciative for that, because what you did for me was
put me through some I hired you to really drive me,

(43:04):
to make sure that I would figure this out and
have a yoda to my Luke you going to use
my star wars here a little bit right. And part
of what we decide, or what you implanted in me,
was we were talking about how I do music. So
as a composer, when I'm writing music, I hear what
I'm gonna call whists of sound. I mean, I sit

(43:27):
a piano and I play the notes until it's the
right wisp, so to speak. And that's how I write
the music. I some of my music. I truly believe
this channels. It comes from places I don't even know.
I just listen and I use that in quotation marks
air quotes there to what I'm hearing. And that would
be the same sort of gifts that a medium or
a psychic or an intuitive reader uses. They listen to

(43:49):
what they're hearing. And I was looking for something like
the piano to help me hear what I'm hearing or
put on paper what I'm getting through psychically. And so
you suggested tarot cards and I'm like, well, I've got
like three decks because I keep buying them. Might as
well try it. And what was really amazing is how
with the rights, practice and centering and intention, how flipping

(44:14):
accurate those cards can be. I'm still blowing away.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Why wait wait wait wait wait wait oh. I was
so with you right till that last sentence. It ain't
the cards. The cards are just a art of distraction
really more than anything else. What it is is exactly
what it turns out the theme of the evening is
it's just bringing awareness. And sometimes we use things like

(44:40):
cards or a pendulum or meditation even as a way
of telling ourselves that it's okay that we're source energy.
And instead, it's not the cards that hold the power,
it's the it's the understanding that you are a source

(45:00):
energy embodied. Go on, then I'm sorry for interest.

Speaker 16 (45:05):
No, absolutely agreed. The cards are just the tool that
help you see that. And what I like about them
and what it really resonated with me is it puts
on paper a picture that when I'm sitting with someone
and helping them work through whatever question we're dealing with,
it gives a visual reference. And some people learn visually,
some people learn, you know, utterly, udly. Anyway, thank you,

(45:30):
that's the word I'm desperately finding. Yeah, and so this
just gives us another way for people to learn and
hopefully receive the reading so they may do with it
what they want to do. But yeah, absolutely, we are
all connected. And that's actually why they I'm going to
use the word work with quotation marks around it, because
we are all the same and we're really just looking
in a mirror and we're helping each other remember what

(45:52):
we're doing here and why we're here, and that in fact,
we are that source energy. All the same, and you.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Start started out with some kind of rumblings of wait.
It started out with curiosity, if I understand you correctly, yep.
Then it evolved to wait. That resonates with me, not
just as a receiver as far as letting somebody else
tell me what source is telling me, but as a
receiver getting source energy or source messages directly that eventually

(46:24):
morphed into you providing this for other people. Is that correct?

Speaker 16 (46:29):
That is correct. I've always been of service that you know,
from food service to church music, to helping people with
you know, lawn care or picking things up for people.
It just service is It's literally how I'm built. I
don't know how to not do that. And so when
I had the opportunity when I found a vehicle to

(46:50):
be of service in a way that took all of
my knowledge from church work and all of that which
gives me language to speak to people about where they're at,
and found a way that I could meet with people
and help them find, to use your words, pathways and
possibilities through their situations in their life and give them

(47:12):
what I like to say is hope and a perspective
of how to move forward. That rocked my world.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Now what I'm here for?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Say that again a little bit more slowly, because that
was really important because it doesn't only apply to you,
It applies to so many others on this planet. Will
you absolutely thank you.

Speaker 16 (47:35):
So what I wanted to do was to help people
find pathways and possibilities forward. Sometimes when you're in the
midst of a struggle, it seems well, like you said
in Lagudavich states, a little fogy, a little hazy, right,
it's hard to see the pathway forward. Through my gifts

(47:56):
and the gifts of people that do the same kind
of healing work, were able to show people pathways and
possibilities forward. But as always, we only show the pathway.
We don't tell you where to go, because it's not
our life to run, it's yours, and sometimes people forget that.
And to be of service and to be able to
help someone come from a place of fear or darkness

(48:18):
into a new possible way to move forward that is transcendent.
That is the reason I'm here. That rocks my world.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
And you started doing readings little by little, and what
did that look like in the beginning? How was it clunky?
How is it smooth? What worked, What was it? What
were you frightened of?

Speaker 13 (48:40):
What we did?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
You feel empowered about?

Speaker 16 (48:43):
I love this? Yeah. So you know when you first
start doing this, the fear is, well, what if nothing comes?

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Right?

Speaker 16 (48:51):
You know, when we're doing it for yourself or you're
reading at home, it's you know, it's nothing. If you
think quote unquote nothing comes, you're not worried about it.
But suddenly, when you're putting yourself out there, what if
I can't hear? What if I'm wrong? Right? All of
those ego based thoughts come rushing through your head. So
what I did for this was, Okay, I'm not I'm
not going to be a professional right away. I'm going

(49:12):
to just do this because I need to figure out
this whole thing out. So I'm going to offer an
opportunity on and I use Facebook, and I just reached
out to the people I was connected with it said hey,
you know, I'm I'm doing this thing and I would
love your help as I learn because I'm still learning
the art of tarot and what the cards mean in
all transparency. So if you want to be part of this,

(49:36):
you know, all you need to do is we'll do
an energy exchange because this is an energy exchange, and
that energy can look like a plant or a tray
of cookies, or your favorite poem or a prayer, whatever
you think you have to offer. And if you let
me read you, I would that would just the energy exchange.
And so several people did respond. In fact, I'm looking

(49:58):
at a plant right now in my house. That was
my very first reading. Gave me this cut cutting of
a plant, and it's now grown nice and strong here
in my dining room, and you know, those kind of
things carry on. I like the fact that that is
still a remembrance from that first experience. I got a
pressed clover leaf, I got a key chain. One of

(50:19):
my college friends bought a pendant from the college I
was at, which is down in my closet. So it
just it was really a nice thing that and and
it was different memories and different aspects. But as I
was doing the readings and learning, I was growing stronger
in my belief in myself, because that's really what prevents
us from trusting it is that we have the fear

(50:41):
that we're really not source energy. That were the imposter synerme.
I guess you would call it right. And so you've
got to work through that to realize that no, no,
there's there's some there's some meet here, there's some truth
to this, and so.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
You start doing it for a more indigenous way, which
is just a voluntary exchange, and then that morphed into
something a little bit more Western culture. Is that correct?

Speaker 16 (51:06):
Yeah? Absolutely. You know, there's a couple of events here
in the Twin Cities. Ecobodeine runs a center for spiritual
development here and holds an event every month called an
Aura Palooza, and it's a gathering of practitioners and healers
of all different kinds and it's been going on in
the Twin Cities for years, shut down a bit for
COVID when the world changed. But she was starting that

(51:30):
back up and I was a student of hers, and
I reached out and said, you know, I'm kind of
willing to try this, and she was wonderfully welcoming and
said sure, And I'm like, really, crap, I gotta do
this now. Okay, fine, But that was an element for
me to take my practice out into the real world,

(51:51):
so to speak. And you know, I started reading for
money as opposed to an energy exchange. And then that's
how this all began.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
And now there's a next evolution. What's that.

Speaker 16 (52:06):
Yeah, So, because we've been doing this for a while.
My husband and I are he's a jeweler, makes bespoke jewelry,
phenomenal jewelry, and we've been doing these events for a
while and we've been talking about doing something on our
side of the Twin Cities. One of the events we
went to was run by a friend of ours, Caro Lol,
who actually has a house in Laguna Beaches while two

(52:28):
of the Twin Cities, and she was needed to take
some time away to do focus on some other things.
And we were just talking in August and said to
my husband, Hey, do you want to try this and
see if we know what it takes to actually put
an event on. And he said yes, And we asked
for permission to take the name of her event and
you know, same location. We want to keep the momentum going,

(52:49):
but as we figure out how we're going to build
our events, and she said sure. So this coming Saturday,
we are hosting our first be the Light Expoke here
in the Twin Cities. That's run by my husband and I.
We call ourselves the House of T and P because
it's funny and we'll be having thirty three vendors with
sixteen different modalities coming together, as well as guest speakers

(53:12):
and free lectures, elevated food. I have a chef friend
who is going to make some amazing finger food and
it's going to be a wonderful day of healing and
readings and jewelry and aura photos and just sixteen different
modalities coming together to celebrate a wonderful fall day.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
And how do people find out more about the event
if they're in the Twin Cities. I'm assuming that there's
no virtual attendance on this first one. Is that correct?

Speaker 16 (53:42):
There isn't. I don't quite have that part figured out yet.
So if you're in the Twin Cities, you can go
to event bright and look up be the Light Expo.
You'll also find it on Facebook on either my page
which is Paul David Intuitive Services, or if you search
for be the Light Expo, it.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Will come up Be the Light x BO. And as
lung as we're giving plugs, give a plug to Tom
if he would please.

Speaker 16 (54:06):
And as jewelry, yes, absolutely so. My husband Tom has
a website Jewelry Designed by Tom, and he just uploaded
a bunch of brand new jewelry, photos today, wonderful creations,
stones and gems, and he has an amazing gift for
creating art. And whether he'll admit it or not, his

(54:26):
part of source energy is infusing it with just magic.
I mean the jewelry. And in fact, I'm worrying at
one of his necklaces right now. It is really beautiful
and you'll really connect with it. They are available for
sale online. So that is one thing you can do
virtually is purchased his jewelry online at jewelrydesigned by Tom
dot com.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Wait, whether he believes it or not, you want to
talk about that, Well, he.

Speaker 16 (54:50):
Would just say he's just making. Julie's very humble, but
he is very connected. He's very intuitive, has probably as
strong of gifts as I do. Is just his calling
is in a different way, and so he would humbly
say that he you know, I'm just making jewelry, but
I know for a fact that he's infusing it with
his love and his energy.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
And one last thing, because I have said that you
are not only an intuitive but you are also work
in the normy world. And what you do is you
organize events and you organize all kinds of considerations that
are around feeding people, and you're a musician that leads

(55:32):
me to superhuman, which is queued up right now.

Speaker 16 (55:37):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Tell us about it please.

Speaker 18 (55:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (55:41):
So, growing up in the eighties, I was a huge
Prince fan phenomenal through the whole Purple Rain parade, I
mean all the way through up until his death. He
was very much a connection to me. In fact, his
every time you released an album, I would my life
would somehow change, you know. It was just one of
those moments that I would catalog my adventures by Prince albums, right.

(56:03):
So one of my dreams was to work with him.
I have worked with several of his side people in
different different aspects, but I managed to connect with doctor
Fink of Prince and the Revolution, who has a studio
here in the Twin Cities, and I set out to
write a confection. I wanted to write something that was

(56:24):
truly just simple one to five, four, six chords, you know,
just very basic for those of you that know music.
Basic chords, not the sevens and nines, which is a
lot of what I write has a lot of those
colors in it. That's my sound. But I wanted to
try something Basic, and I was a big fan of
Robin and the B fifty two's Robin is out of
the Netherlands or Iceland, and she's a wonderful electronic artist.

(56:47):
And so I created this piece of music that I
wanted to do something with, and so I just picked
up the phone and called him and he answered, and
I said, Hey, I would love to do a song
in your studio. He said, sure, come on down. And
I remember walking into his basement and as I'm walking
down the stairs, on the walls are all the gold

(57:07):
and platinum and silver albums that he was on with
Prince and Revolution. And my mind is blown because here
are all the albums that I wore out in college,
right on the walls, in their platinum statuses. And one
of the nicest guys you ever want to meet.

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We're at the top of the hour. You are here
with Paul David. You are listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman. Will see you after we go a little superhuman.

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journey with Greg Friedman on k XFM broadcast from Laguna Beach.
For Laguna Beach on k XFM one oh four point
seven tonight, we are hanging out with Paul David. Paul David,
as we talked about in the first hour, is somebody
that grew up in a very conservative, traditional white picket

(01:01:44):
fence kind of world and found a way to be
of service by recognizing that he too is source energy incarnate.
And the way that he has found to be of
service is yes, by doing all the stuff with a
nine to five job and making sure that people are

(01:02:07):
well fed and well taken care of. And also he
is a reader, and that means that he has figured
out ways to open himself up to source energy to
translate or communicate things that we may not be able
to hear ourselves because our noses are too close to

(01:02:27):
the mirror. Would you say that's accurate, Paul.

Speaker 16 (01:02:30):
Yeah, absolutely, and sometimes not only just close to the mirror.
But you know, a lot of people don't trust their
I'm going to use the word instinct, their intuition. You know,
what I've discovered is that source energy is always speaking
to us in various ways. But we are so used
to this Western world of you know, loud ads and

(01:02:52):
apps and dings and pops and sounds. You know, source
energy is quiet. You know, in the Book of Kings,
they talk in the Christian Bible, they talk about, you know,
the Elijah's in the mountain and the winds came and
God was not in the wind. The firestorm came and
God was not the firestorm. And after all, that is
still small voice, and that's really it. The voice that

(01:03:13):
they are. Intuition is soft, It's not weak by any stretch,
but you do have to listen for it. And I
think a lot of people forgot how to use that
skill in our Western world. And so what I do,
and part of what we do is when we sit
and we read, is almost always we end up talking
about our own intuition, your own intuitions as the person

(01:03:35):
that's being read.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
And more.

Speaker 16 (01:03:37):
And how you can.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Bring that forward in your life, right, And it's very
important because you're talking to people. Give me some illustrations
of you're there. And here's the part that blows my mind,
is you're in an event and you have how many
other people in this room with you more or less

(01:04:02):
between the other readers or the other offerings, and I
don't know what they may be. We'll find out in
a second. And also the participants, the attendees more or
less how many people are in this big.

Speaker 16 (01:04:14):
Room anywhere from twenty to fifty to sometimes one hundred,
depending on which event and which room. So you've got
a lot of energy going around there, right, And part
of what you have to do is decipher what be
able to drop in as the reader and hear the
message for the person, the client that's sitting right in

(01:04:34):
front of you. And you know, there's different tricks of
the trade. One of them is really the cone of silence.
I've heard someone refer to it as where when you're
with you're with your person and you make a bubble
around you and them sort of in your world, and
you just read them. And what's really interesting about that

(01:04:57):
is that the signs are all around you. The lessons
come at different times. When I was at a version
of that department store that I was working at before,
I had a boss who literally told me, when you're
working with a customer, I want you to picture a
bubble between you and them. Apparently I was easily distracted
when I was younger, and he was trying to challenge
me to just wait on the customer and not be

(01:05:19):
what we call purple squirreling all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:05:23):
So, but that actually is an accurate description. When I
was working with another reader and she was going to
an event where there's a lot of people and didn't
really have a way to ground out the noise, so
to speak, we talked about this this cone of silence,
and she has an autistic son and said, well, you
know what, that's the same exercise that our therapist had

(01:05:44):
our son work with, and so it has multiple implications.
But you need to definitely be able to shut out
that energy when it all comes in when you got
like fifty people in the room, And did you see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Was there a before the cone of silence and after?
And if there was, what was one like versus the other?

Speaker 16 (01:06:05):
Sure if you forget, which sometimes you do when you're
in the moment right, it's harder to focus, it's harder
to concentrate. There are more distractions, there's more things that
draw your attention or your energy away from focusing your client.
When you remember to do that, when you drop in
and do this cone of silence, suddenly those noises they're

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not they don't stop by any stretch, but they're they're muted.
You're more able to focus, and it is a very interesting,
real experience. You can tell the difference from before and after,
and anyone can do that. You can just focus on
someone you're talking with, and we probably do that when
we're going out to eat in a crowded restaurant and
we're with someone that we're listening to. It kind of

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happens naturally. So I think that more people know how
to do this, but wouldn't call it that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Per say, well, I have actually taken people out into
nature and where and the first thing I'll say is
what do you hear? And they say nothing, it's quiet.
I say, really, what do you hear? And then all
of a sudden they tell me about the bird that's
over there, or the breeze that's blowing through the trees
over there, and then it could almost get down to

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there's a cricket I hear, or a rustling I hear.
And it's an exercise in choosing what we are and
how we hear and what I hear you saying. Is
that winds up being the same tool that you use
in order to make sure that you're hearing both the
person that is coming to you and source energy simultaneously.

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Is that correct?

Speaker 16 (01:07:42):
That is absolutely correct. You want to be able to
make sure you can hear your person, of course in
a busy room, but then to your point, you have
to be able to hear source speaking to you. And
as I said, it's a smaller, quieter voice. It doesn't scream,
and the universe also doesn't necessar thoroughly always speak to
us in exact sentences, you well constructed English sentences. It's

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through impressions and ideas and thoughts, and they come depending
on the reader. Everyone has a different way that does
manifest for them, but they can come somewhat quickly, and
so you do need to be paying attention to that impression,
to that feeling. And that's really what I've worked over
the years to hone is making sure that I'm able
to capture that and bring that information through to be

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of service to the person that I've been reading.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Do you have any illustrations somebody's come down to you,
come to you, they sit down at your table, your booth,
and they ask you. Do they ask you a specific
question or do you let the cards ask the question
for you? How does that process work? And what are
some of the more fascinating experiences that you've had?

Speaker 16 (01:08:53):
Absolutely, So, first of all, I just want to make
sure that everyone understands that everyone reads cards differently, so
my way of doing it might not be your way.
So when you come and sit down at my table,
I'm going to ask you if you know anything about Taro,
if you had a reading before, and if you have,
I'm just going to simply inform you that everyone reads differently.
So a lot of care readers use a layout. They

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might use a Celtic cross, as one of them is called,
or a three card past Present future pull. When I
pull cards, it's not about any type of reading. I'm
pulling more from the psychic information than I am from
any specific because in those readings, like a Celtic cross,
each position of a card means something and nothing wrong

(01:09:36):
with reading that way. That's just not how my gift works,
for lack of a better phrase. And so when you
sit down, I will ask you do you have a question,
but I will specifically say, don't tell me your question.
I just want to know that you have one or
don't have one, because when you sit down, you're the
reader is going to pull three cards from my deck
and then you're going to turn them over. You're going

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to look at them, and then as the person that
pull the cards, you'll put them in an order that
speaks to you. Maybe it tells a story, maybe like
the way the colors go together, you know, maybe it's
like number one, two, three, and you're like, really, heino retenttive.
You know, it doesn't matter to me, but I want
you to have that's part of your energy getting invested
into the reading. And then I begin to open up,

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and I start with a card wherever my attention is drawn,
it's usually on the card to the left of the
person with the reading, the first what they would call
the first card position, but it isn't always that way.
Sometimes I'm drawn to the end. I had one today
where they had we just did an event today that
I was at and there was two twos. There was
a tool of wands and wants, the suit of our passions,

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things that make us go ooh, and it was a
two of swords and swords and taro is the suit
of how we think about things, and the two's are
about choices, right, And so for this reading, I went
to the twos and talked about them both simultaneously versus
you know, breaking them apart, because you're gonna love this.
The card in the center was the Magician, and so

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in this is probably my favorite card in tarot. The
Magician is the reminder that we are source energy and
we have all of these gifts, our disposal, these tools,
these quote unquote tricks, right, and it would be like
how we think about things, how we feel about things,
what our passions are, how we choose to manifest. And
as the magician in life, we assert those skills as

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we because it's our life, we're in charge of it,
we're the co creator of this experience. And as we
assert those that's how we create our world. And so
it was a really fun reading to talk about the
choices that we're coming up for this individual and then,
you know, reminding them that they are the one that
has to choose. Some people want me to tell them,
you know, what's the right answer, and that's some of

(01:11:41):
my favorite questions because when you sit down, I have
a disclaimer that says, you know, I'm not going to
tell you how to run your life, because I've got
enough trouble running my own. Everyone lasts and they signed
up to my newsletter. But what I really mean is
exactly what you say at the beginning of your show.
I'm not going to tell you they run your life,
because it's not my life to run, it's yours. And
I am huge on people take accountability because once you

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take accountability for your journey, it suddenly transforms things. If
you can take responsibility and understand that the way you're focusing,
where you're focusing your energy changes how the outcome of
what's going on. You know, I find a spiritual journey
to be more practical than woo, even though it is
woo right. But if you can apply the tools of

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spirituality and the principles of being the creator, taking accountability,
finding the power from within, connecting to your source, that
will transform your life from wherever you're at and one
of my favorite cards that come up is either the
tower card, which in Taro is about stuff shaken up right,
or a five and numerology, the number five is about disruption.

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What I love about disruption and this ties into a
musical example. But disruption just happens in life. But when
I was teaching my bell choir about how to make
music do something, my comment is music has to do something.
It has to grow bigger or get smaller. And really, like,
if you go to a hospital and you have the
ups and downs on an EKG machine, what does that mean? Well,

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the bell choir responds, it means that you're alive, exactly.
And if you go to an EKG machine and you
see a flatline where it isn't changing, what does that mean?
And everyone goes, You're dead? I say, right, so, when
you're not doing crescendos and de crescendos and music, you're dead.
And everyone laughs. But that's what your part.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Slow down, we're going to take a break, and when
we come back, we're going to get an anecdote about
somebody that Paul's read and find out how it turned
out for them and for him. You are listening to
Inner Journey with Greg Friedman. We're here with Paul David
and we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Hi.

Speaker 16 (01:13:51):
This is Greg Braden and you're looking to inner Journey with.

Speaker 13 (01:13:54):
Brand Well, will you do if I sang out a tong?

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We should stand up and walk out on me? Lay
on me your ear and I'll sing you a song.

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I will try not to sing out of.

Speaker 13 (01:14:43):
Keep better windle from.

Speaker 12 (01:14:49):
Let me.

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Somebody said, I'm walking on that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
When the hell?

Speaker 18 (01:15:09):
What do I do?

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
When my love is a way?

Speaker 13 (01:15:14):
Does the world be alone?

Speaker 16 (01:15:18):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:15:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Pound do I feel at the end of the days?

Speaker 13 (01:15:24):
Are you saying because you're on your own?

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
I said you, I don't get signed no more. Let
hell from my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
I'm gonna get fine.

Speaker 16 (01:15:34):
I'm gonna get fled.

Speaker 13 (01:15:36):
Lead our help from my friend.

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
You know, keep on train, y'all. Let help from my friend.
I don't get said no more.

Speaker 16 (01:15:54):
Do you need any mine?

Speaker 13 (01:15:59):
I need someone the lord.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
I could be a bad.

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Let me s smell somebody who knows a lot sor
from my forreend said.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
I'm gonna get bad.

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No sound about to turn when I hide our hair.

Speaker 17 (01:16:37):
From ma for head?

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
Would you be league even love at first side?

Speaker 13 (01:16:51):
I'm certain it happens all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:16:56):
What do you see when you turn now the lights?

Speaker 13 (01:17:01):
I can tell you, buddy, shut up.

Speaker 20 (01:17:04):
Is when I said I'm talking on bad friend, I'm
walking on bad When.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
With a little air from my prayer, do.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
You lean out the bay? Acluded?

Speaker 12 (01:17:43):
That need somebody, somebody who's gonna least minute, somebody who's got.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
So many in the world. Why I'm keep.

Speaker 16 (01:18:13):
Trying you go.

Speaker 13 (01:18:16):
Champans.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
All right, ch'all, welcome back. You are listening to Inner
Journey with Greg Friedman on k x F M one
O four seven, broadcast from Laguna Beach, California. For Laguna
Beach and for the entire world. We are here this
evening with Paul David and Paul was just about to

(01:18:43):
jump into Paul is a reader, and Paul, you and
I have spoken about this off air a number of
different times. Again, you've used cards, you've used other devices,
and sometimes you're looking to not use the cards. Other
times you're looking that you're very happy in the use

(01:19:05):
of the cards. The main thing I want to share
and I want to see if you agree or disagree with,
is whatever works for you is groovy, is okay? And
so you've done these events for a year, maybe a
little bit more, is that right? Over?

Speaker 16 (01:19:24):
Closing it on three?

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Holy smaly dude, Okay, so you have done these events
for going on on three. You have seen everything. You've
seen it from people that you know, do the usual,
will I find my love? Will I make enough money?
You know those kind of questions to really more intense ones.

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Tell us to share a story with us, if you would,
about one of the ones that made you go WHOA, Okay,
maybe maybe I am good at this and maybe this
is something big that I shouldn't just treat flippantly.

Speaker 16 (01:20:04):
Yeah, So I had I had a client sit down,
and I remember what first came through was both, there's
a lot here and actually I've been reading this client
for a while, and this person reminded me that the
very first thing I said when they sat down is,
oh my gosh, there's a lot here. There's more than
we have time for, which is funny. But what turns

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out is her husband had killed himself and they had
found the body and it was incredibly traumatic. And this
is someone that she was supposed to have a life
with and then suddenly that had changed. And here she
was sitting before me, and there was an incredible amount

(01:20:47):
of anger with her, and it was just a red
hot rage. And I mean to say you could feel
it it metaphysically, you could feel it right, and working
through through the cards and working through her and showing
her possible ways forward, this person was able to actually

(01:21:08):
do their work. And that's part of this with these
readings is you know, our spiritual journeys are our responsibility,
and so there's some work for us to do, and
the work may simply be learning to remember that re
source energy and things like that. And she was able
to take that anger and through working together, turn her

(01:21:29):
whole energy completely around and is now at a place
where I remember her saying it one of the readings,
She's like, Okay, well, once I get this done, we're
just what else is there? Right? And there's so much more, right,
you know exactly what I mean, There's just so much more.
And so, you know, we'd worked through the guilt, the
shame of you know, was it her fault and all

(01:21:51):
all of that kind of drama that everyone feels. That
it's natural to feel that because you know, a suicide
or finding someone who's taking their life, especially that's close
to you, that you and know the signs were there
is traumatic. It's traumatic for those that are left. And
so as she worked through her anger and transmuted that
into an understanding of her personal power and how strong

(01:22:13):
she really was, she was able to move forward from
that anger and let that anger go. Now we had
to work through other sessions where it, of course comes
back up, because letting something like that go that is
so strong and so powerful isn't simply one and done right.
But she has managed to transform her energy and transform

(01:22:33):
her life. And that is the reason why I do this,
and I don't take credit for it. I was part
of a catalyst in her life, for sure, but she
did the work and she gets the full credit for that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
The way you're talking about it right now, it almost
sounds like therapy, and I know it's different. So you're
there with this woman, either in private sessions or at events,
and you're laying out cards and how does this facilitate
How does this act as a device in order to

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really inspire her to be at peace with herself instead
of angry at the world, angry at her self, angry
at or X.

Speaker 16 (01:23:19):
Yeah, So the cards are symbols, right, and we talk
a lot about the symbology within the cards themselves or
what they represent for us. And the idea with the
visual representation, which is what I really like, is it
gives you something that you can picture to latch onto.
And it may be so if I'm just I'm looking
at a card right here that is a card from

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a different deck. This is a metaphysical pterot deck, and
it has a bunch of archways, and each of the
archways have different colors in them. One of them has
two rings, one of them has coins. And we might
look at this card and those archways might represent pathways
or choices for her, and so a person will see
those things. And what we would probably talk about with

(01:24:04):
this card, in fact, it is a two, which would
be about choices. We talked about that earlier is we
might say that each choice you make has an outcome.
You know, if you want to be a millionaire, if
that's your dream, right, it doesn't make any sense to
sell all of your goods and go feed the poor
in Calcutta. That's a wonderful thing to do, right, but
it's not an alignment with your decision to be a millionaire.

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So you need to make choices that are in alignment
and that might spark within her an understanding of how
her choices have led her to a place or a pathway.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Do that makes sense absolutely? Now I'm going to ask
you a little bit of an uncomfortable, possibly an uncomfortable question.
There are plenty out there that we'll say this is
the tarot cards are demon's work. They're evil, They're portals
to all kinds of nefarious things happening.

Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
How do you respond to that.

Speaker 16 (01:24:58):
I one of the most wonderful things I ever read,
I don't remember where I read it was that evil
does not reside in card poarks. That's a uniquely human trait,
and so they're not I mean, can people use tero
for evil, sure, or dark nefarious purposes. Sure, people can
use churches for dark nefarious purposes. Right, We're not limited

(01:25:21):
by any any genre. But this work is of the light,
and I specifically my prayer, it's a holy responsibility for me.
I take it very seriously, and so I have a
centering prayer that really calls on source energy to allow
me to be the conduit of healing. And that's really
important to understand that I'm just a conduit bringing I

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am a conduit bringing through source energy to the client
to help them see things that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Will lead them forward.

Speaker 16 (01:25:47):
Right, it's a holy moment. It's not something to be
used for ill. Now, the thing about spiritual gifts and
things is I've talked to some other psychic mediums who
have said when they got cocky, when their egos got
in the way, suddenly their gifts just didn't work anymore. Right,
and so it needs to be treated with respect.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Now, that leads me to the idea of you open
up the cards and you're essentially opening up a conduit,
a channel. You're opening a valve to the universe, and
when you're done, how do you deal with that valve
being open?

Speaker 16 (01:26:29):
So it's really important that you close the portal, and
it doesn't need to be anything super dramatic. I have
two steps that I do. First of all, on each
of the decks, I use multiple decks in reading. Some
are oracle decks, some are tarot decks, and I always
say this portal has now closed when I'm done. And
then when the whole thing is done and closed up,

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I do a closing prayer, thanking source energy for the
ability to read these holy moments and releasing any attachment
to the outcome of the readings as they're left to
go to their work in the world. And then I
close it with it is done. It is done, and
it is done. And I choose to use the word
I'm in for my readings and that just closes those

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portals down.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Fascinating. Okay, we are about to shift over and you
have an event coming up. I just want to for
those people just tuning in right now or driving through
town or wherever you may happen to be driving, whether
it's Laguna Beach or anywhere else in the world because
we do live stream.

Speaker 16 (01:27:31):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
You have an event coming up this October twelfth, which
is Saturday. I believe, is that correct?

Speaker 16 (01:27:38):
That is correct? And the event the event is is
the Be the Light Expo, hosted by the House of.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
TNP And what is it exactly?

Speaker 16 (01:27:51):
So Be the Light Expo is a collection of sixteen
different modalities coming together to offer service and healing on
this Saturday. We have mediums and tarot card oracle card readers.
We have palm readers, we have cranial sacral therapy available.
There's actually channeled harp music which is kind of cool.

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This individual has a wonderful gift for channeling your soul
song through her harp. Beautiful, beautiful. You can do astrology
or maybe a roma therapy. Maybe you want to make
a blend that will help you heal. So all of
these modalities are available. There are guest events, there are speakers.
We have a sound bath from eleven thirty to twelve thirty.
We have Carol Lowell, who's medium here, who used to

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run the Be the Light event and actually has a
home in Laguna Beach, so also a local at times
out in your neck of the woods. Right, She's going
to do a medium shift Galleries for an hour, and
then we are bringing in the amazing Dave Schrader, who
is a renowned author and paranormal investigator.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Say any more about days?

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I know, sorry about that.

Speaker 16 (01:28:58):
That's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
We are going to take a short break and I'll
tell you what we'll do. We'll come back with Paul
David and David Schrader. How's that for you?

Speaker 16 (01:29:08):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
We'll be back with more inner journey Paul David and
David Schrader right after this.

Speaker 13 (01:29:28):
I like the way sparkling.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
Range.

Speaker 21 (01:29:33):
Then against your scheme, Souroun and I honestly with you
in the desert time.

Speaker 17 (01:29:49):
With the billion stars.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
All around, because I got to be spa easy be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
And that I know you won't let me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Die because I'm all.

Speaker 18 (01:30:11):
Standing on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
And I found out a long time ago what a
woman can do to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Your soul.

Speaker 19 (01:30:36):
All but she can't take you anyway.

Speaker 18 (01:30:42):
You don't already know how to do.

Speaker 13 (01:30:47):
And I gotta beat, need to be.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
And I know you won't let me die.

Speaker 16 (01:31:01):
It was a all.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Already stand.

Speaker 18 (01:31:08):
On the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
I get this feeling.

Speaker 13 (01:32:10):
As a lover and a fray.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
With this choice. Cames qis.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
In Welcome Back. You are listening to Inner Journey with
Greg Friedman on k x F M one oh four
point seven, broadcast from Laguna Beach all over this town
and all over the world. This evening, we are hanging

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out with Paul David and Dave Schrader is joining us.
Paul instead of me introing, Dave, why don't you tell
us a little about who he is and what inspired
you to have him as the keynote speaker for your
Be the Light event this weekend?

Speaker 16 (01:33:00):
Absolutely well. Dave Schrader is well known here in the
Twin Cities. He's a renowned author and a paranormal investigator
and a host of a local show here on WCCO
Radio called The Paranormal three sixty And I had heard
of him through We had mentioned Echobodeina earlier and when
I was planning this Be the Light Expo, we're in
August or October, I'm sorry, and in October we're thinking Halloween.

(01:33:23):
People are more open to exploring ideas of the paranormal
and ghosts and things. And I have been fascinated by
ghosts for so long and to have someone come on
board who can explore that and explain that and talk
about that just seemed like the perfect fit for this
wonderful October afternoon. And so I reached out to Dave

(01:33:44):
and he was gracious enough to say yes, and we
are thrilled to have him joining us this Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Dave, welcome to in our journey.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Hey, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Now, you've done public speaking forever, You've been an author,
you've been a speaker, you have your own program. How
do you choose what to speak about? And what are
you going to speak about this Saturday at the Be
the Light event?

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Well, you know, having been actively into this field.

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
For eighteen years, I lived a life surrounded with supernatural
and paranormal experiences, but I really kind of dug deep
into it about eighteen years ago when I began doing
my radio show, and it's just been a really cool
journey getting a chance to talk to people from around
the world, hearing different theories and belief systems, and what

(01:34:38):
I'd like to bring this weekend actually is kind of
a lessons I've learned from the dead from all of
the communication I've had with ghosts. And you know, it's
interesting some of the points that have been made to
me throughout the years regarding, you know, fear, the concepts
of what it is we're doing, and how important the

(01:34:59):
words that we choose to use are not just for us,
but for those we love that have have departed.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Now you said lessons from the dead, and I find
that fascinating because I've seen some very powerful medicine men
actually sit and have conversations with elders that have passed away.
How do you communicate with them and then how do
you translate that so other people can benefit from them

(01:35:31):
as well?

Speaker 16 (01:35:32):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
I've got a really powerful dice in vacuum, so I
sucked the ghost into the vacuum. I shove them in
a jar, and I make them tell me all their
secrets before I release them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
That's two Ghostbusters. Try it again, will Oh sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Okay, I was going more for Aladdin, but Ghostbusters works too.
You know that I was lucky enough to have strange
experiences throughout my life. I was never closed down to it.
I didn't have a family that was telling me it
doesn't exist. I didn't have friends that were around me
telling me it's not real. And that allowed me to

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just continue to flourish and kind of experience things in
a different way without walking a place of fear, without
walking in a place of expectations of the bad. So
I think I've been extremely lucky.

Speaker 16 (01:36:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
I was on about a dozen episodes of the TV
show Ghost Adventures. I got to do a mini series
called Paranormal Challenge that really had us kind of re
examining the way that we investigate haunted locations, understanding the
history the spirit's story. And then I was the lead
investigator for two seasons on The Holser Files, which was

(01:36:41):
a paranormal TV series on Travel Channel, and then on
the Ghosts of Devil's Perch. So being paired up with
mediums throughout my life, Chris Fleming, Michael and Marty Perry,
Cindy Kayza, Sarah Lamos, They've really given me some unique
perspectives in the way that we communicate with the other
side and how to actually learn to listen and how

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do you And then for me, it's it's taking the time.
You know, a lot of people jump to the conclusion
that something is dark or something is evil because it
unnerves them, and you know, you find that everybody has
a different level of what fear is right to you.
Fear could be that you and I are sitting there

(01:37:24):
and suddenly your hair starts to raise as though somebody
is gently lifting it, and that could be terrifying to you.
To me, at this point in my game, I really
need like a flaming head to come flying down the
hall screaming that it's going to eat my soul. Otherwise
I feel like I would just be, Oh, okay, what next,
you know, looking for that next evolution of what the

(01:37:44):
spirit is trying to convey to me. And I've really
tried to walk the walk with people in helping to
bring them off of the ledge of fear. Fear based
thoughts and concepts and misunderstandings, which I think, listen, that
translates really well into what we're dealing with on the
planet right now. There's a lot of misunderstandings, and people
don't take time to listen. People don't take time to

(01:38:07):
communicate with one another. They're all about quick sound bites,
and they're all about what can I do to make
myself feel more comfortable or happy in the moment. And
we really do need to get back to that understanding
that the world around us is a bigger place because
we're in it, but we can make it an even
bigger place by showing passion and empathy and love for

(01:38:30):
the living and the dead.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Dave, I agree a thousand. However, I'm still not quite
grasping how you get to the place where you can
tune into what's your process? How do you get to
the place where you could hear the dead or understand
the dead, or communicate and take the lessons back with you.

(01:38:53):
What does that look like in application?

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
I am not a medium, so we don't have the
ability to tune in and hear the dead like somebody
that's clairvoyant. What I learn is through the investigations. I've done,
the tools that I've used and the words that have
been spoken to me through these different you know, spirit boxes,
audio recorders, and in a lot of instances, it's taking

(01:39:20):
the time to you know. For a perfect example, when
we were filming on the TV show The Holser Files,
we were in San Diego at the Waleyhouse, which is
one of the most haunted places in America, and rightfully so.
You know, doctor Hans Holzer kind of gave it that
stamp of approval and it's lived up to that for
the last fifty to sixty years. And while we were there,

(01:39:41):
we uncovered an interesting aspect of the ghost story and
it agitated the spirit we were calling on, and it
did something that I had no real concept or belief in.
You know, when you watch a lot of the paranormal
TV shows, somebody is touched or physically moved by a spirit,
and I've often thought, maybe this is kind of an

(01:40:01):
overreaction until something hit me so hard it knocked me
to the ground literally or oh no, both literally and figuratively.
It happens that in the episode you see when I
turn around, I get this perplexed look on my face
because my brain could not conceive of what just hit me.
It hit so hard it was like a linebacker lifting

(01:40:23):
me up into somebody. Shane was standing next to me,
that my partner in investigations on the Holeser files, and
I hit him. He hit the wall, and then I
hit the floor, And when I turned around, I was
half expecting to see a cameraman that had tripped over
the carpet and fallen into me, or something that would
have that kind of weight to it, and instead there

(01:40:45):
was nothing there. There was nothing, And I suddenly realized
the real ability and power of the other side when
they have something to convey. Now, maybe I'm lucky because
to some people they would run out screaming, I'm a
fob and I've got eleven kids, so I've been yelled at, knockdown,
talk back to you know. I've had every kind of

(01:41:07):
possible reaction from children you could have throughout your life.
So instead of leaving and running out terrified, I realized
that the spirit we were engaging with had really been
left unsupervised for way too long, and he had been
this kind of rabble rouser for his people. He was

(01:41:29):
a Mexican. They referred to him as kind of a bandit.
What he was was they were freedom fighters. They would
come back into America to the San Diego area. They'd
come back in to try to reclaim the area that
had been stolen and taken from them. And they were
the heroes of their own story. They were doing something
as an uprising to try to make a difference and

(01:41:51):
help their people regain their land. And they were met
with murder. They you know, this man, Juan Verdugo, I
believe he had to dig his own grave and then
stand in front of the grave as three men shot
him to death.

Speaker 16 (01:42:05):
And when we.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Called out the spirit, it was because Violet Waley had
committed suicide, a shot to herself to take herself out.
And I asked the question, I said, did you have
a hand in Violet's death? You know, wondering had he
pushed her to that? Because her father was one of
the men that shot him. And when I challenged him

(01:42:28):
that way, that's when I got knocked down to the ground.
And after I had a chance to collect myself, I
went back in and I just said, one, I understand
you're upset. I understand that people have twisted your history
and your story for very long, but I'm not going
to run away, You're not going to bully me out
of here. So what can we do to make sure

(01:42:50):
that this stops this kind of aggression? And basically what
it came down to was remembering and telling the story
the right way, giving history the push it needs to
recall the stories the way that they actually happened, not
the way that the winner perceives them to be.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Once we kind of got that story out, it changed
the atmosphere of what was going on at the Whaley House.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
I love this and I have a feeling that you
and I could talk stories for hours and hours. Unfortunately,
this is a two hours show and we're on the
tail end of the second hour. I gotta tell you,
this is all the more reason for y'all to go
to the Be the Light Expo on this Saturday, October twelfth.

(01:43:36):
And how did they go about doing that, Paul?

Speaker 16 (01:43:39):
Well, first of all, if you're going to get tickets,
you can go to event right and search for Be
the Light Expo. They'll also find that on Facebook you
can get tickets. You can also purchase tickets to the door.
It's at Studio Timeout, which is six zero zero one, Lynndale,
Avenue South and South Minneapolis for those of you local,
right across from Bachmann's. There's parking on the street also
in the lot to be an amazing event and just

(01:44:01):
hearing Dave talk, I am jazz beyond jazz for what
this event is going to be. It's going to be
an amazing, amazing day of healing and stories and such
cool things.

Speaker 9 (01:44:12):
Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
I am really excited about you speaking at this event,
and I'm grateful that you took the time to speak
with us this evening on Inner Journey.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
It's been an honor. Thank you for having me, and
I look forward to meeting everybody this Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Have a great evening, Dave, Thank you you too. All Right, Paul,
believe it or not, we are at that last question
of the evening. This is your opportunity to talk about
everything and anything. Is there anything that you feel like
we didn't flush out enough? Is there something that we
didn't touch on that you'd really like us to share

(01:44:47):
and you'd feel remiss in if you didn't. The floor
is yours. What would you like to speak about?

Speaker 16 (01:44:53):
Well, first of all, I just want to remind everyone
what we've been talking about all night, that we are
all source energy, and if you need to connect and
talk about that, if you want to do a reading
and find out, I do readings over the internet as
well over zoom and you get a recording which is
kind of cool, so go back and listen to it.
So be sure you connect with me. My website is
Paul David Music dot net and click on the Intuitive

(01:45:15):
Readings link and it will take you to all my
services there and some free offerings that you're able to use.
But my hope is that through my gifts, I'm able
to help you along your journey. That is really why
I'm doing what I do. But again, remember you are
powerful creators. You are connected to source energy. So many
things in our society and our world have chosen to

(01:45:38):
tell us that we're not so they can gain power
over us. We are far more powerful than we can
ever imagine. It is my privilege to help you find
that path.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
All right, now, we have one last thing that I'm
going to ask you to do. However, before we do this,
I'm going to do something a little bit out of order.
I'm going to ask you to queue up the last
song of the evening, which is going to be called
Please remind myself. I'm rewind myself. And who's the musician

(01:46:11):
that pen that?

Speaker 16 (01:46:13):
There is this amazing artist out of the contributes who
happens to share the same name as me.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
What a crazy concept. All right, people, Before we do that,
I'm gonna sign off with our listeners and I'm going
to have you queue up the song, tell a little
bit of story about it, and we will be off
and running on our merry way. I'm gonna tell you,
guys what I tell you every single week. This is
a privilege. I don't have to do this. I get

(01:46:41):
to do this and it is an absolute joy. The
fact is that there are many many people seeing and
unseen that contribute to this show being able to be
presented on KXFM, and it goes out locally over the air,
it goes out into internationally on streaming, and there's always

(01:47:01):
a podcast. I am so grateful that everybody, to everybody
that facilitates that, and most of all, I'm grateful to you,
the listening audience. This show does not exist without your participation.
Paul tell us about got to Rewind Myself? Please.

Speaker 16 (01:47:21):
Yeah, So, got to Rewind Myself is a song about
realizing that the patterns you've developed as you get older,
maybe aren't the best way for you to be. And
I'm okay, I'm gonna star Wars again here. Greg. Sorry
about this. It's the line that when Lucas is talking
to Yoda and Yoda says to Luke, you must unlearn

(01:47:42):
what you have learned. Really means that we need to
think about our life and how we do things and
maybe unlearned some of the patterns that have created destruction
our lives or created some disharming our lives. And so
this song is really about that. But it's really fun,
great energy. I'm I'm joined on this by the incomparable

(01:48:02):
Alex Mayers on guitars. But this is Gotta Rewind Myself.
And by the way, this is the world premiere outside
of my basement studio, so enjoy.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Thank you, Paul David. I appreciate you joining us this evening.
Be the Love. October twelfth. If you're in the Minnesota area,
go look it up online. Go to Paul David Intuitive.
You will find so many things. And as I always
say to you guys, thank you and good night.

Speaker 9 (01:49:00):
Sing my life, Gotta rewind myself, gotta get my back.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
We used to be to me who I was before adult,
but shine a change.

Speaker 19 (01:49:12):
I want to see God judged your friends happy, just
the ass and share my doults.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
Again.

Speaker 6 (01:49:25):
Gotta find this wist. Gotta rewind myself in sple in
high school. Never fear to play the fool, get bed
back and then take something fresh. Wist her into.

Speaker 11 (01:49:43):
Go to collegeic Quist for her knowledge to show self esteem.
It would be who he had about us of seats.
I could kill your dreams. Now I gotta rewind myself.

Speaker 6 (01:49:54):
I got to get my back.

Speaker 11 (01:49:56):
WI used to be to me who I was before adult.

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
My shine change.

Speaker 19 (01:50:03):
I want to see I touched your friend's happy, display
nice and share my toes.

Speaker 6 (01:50:14):
Again. It's kinda wind this with it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
God got gotta be a whine myself.

Speaker 9 (01:50:44):
My soulmate, w would be a guy as you with
a quinside my basphilicit. Just get so precise up me downs, roll.

Speaker 6 (01:50:55):
The coast, other fetal sauce.

Speaker 11 (01:50:59):
My security Christmas start that.

Speaker 9 (01:51:04):
Gott to rewind myself my back to way used to
be to me who I must before adun my shine.

Speaker 11 (01:51:14):
I want to see it's not touched different to spend
as ship.

Speaker 6 (01:51:21):
My toughs.

Speaker 11 (01:51:27):
Got got gotta rewind myself nor sex rewind you remember God,
I got to see midline that wasn't because actually.

Speaker 6 (01:51:47):
The gallery.

Speaker 11 (01:51:48):
You know why I went afraid, I why myself away
from Ramy I sett