September 29, 2025 • 45 mins
Menopause isn't the end--it's the start of a bold new adventure. Jane Hajduk and Shari Doran, co-creators and stars of Thee Third Act on YouTube join the Moms to talk about navigating menopause, finding new purpose, and embracing reinvention with humor and confidence. Whether you're curious about menopause, searching for inspiration, or ready to reinvent your next chapter, this episode will make you laugh, think, and feel less alone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, Mom's Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club. I'm your host,
Monica Samuels, and I'm here with my lovely co host,
Julie organd missed you. I've missed you too.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean, you're my roommate, you're my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I give you a hard time. I mean, all of
those things you do.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You do, but we know we're good roommates. We're good roommates.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I mean last night you asked me to hit you
if you snored.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I knew it was coming, and I woke up at two.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Thirty am and I've been up ever since because that's
the life of a you know, middle aged mom.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So sure, I mean, insomnia is no joke right now,
it is no joke.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I tried everything that I could think of to go
back to sleep, but every thought I could think of
was running through my mind, and I.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Just, yeah, how often do you wake up with not
being able to you know, insomnia?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Pretty much every night? But you know what, now, I
do have a product we'll talk about later that has
helped me to sleep. Oay, get back, So we'll get
to that.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But lately I think I've been suffering from a few things. Okay,
so this is my most concerning thing. And you're a
really good friend, so you can tell me what you
think about this.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is this dementia or is it? I meant more menopause.
Now I'll tell you. I'll tell you what happened or
what's been happening. So my son's friend was helping me
with something, and I said, Danny, I needed to go
into my office and go in there. And you know
that thing next to the door that has wheels on
it that you put stuff on. He said, oh, the cart.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The cart.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It has a word, the cart. Yes, So that is
the biggest thing for me. The brain fog, I am
why am I in this room? Why did I come here?
What's happening? And finding the words? So that's the biggest thing.
And so yesterday I was smart enough. I was with
all my Texas longhorned football friends this weekend. So I
fired up that text group and I said, girls, give
(01:53):
me your one thing. And of course my friend you know, responded,
I can only give one, and I was like, yes,
I don't have all day. Give me the one thing
that bugged you the most about this new stage of life,
and do you want to know what they are? Yeah,
what's the least Maybe probably one was like this spare
tire around my waist and I work out five six
days a week, and I say, well, don't work out
(02:15):
five six days a week if you're still gonna have Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's only because I don't really exercise as much as
she does.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
The other one was insomnia, and then, I mean the
other one was.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Obviously sweating through the sheets.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not only the sheets, but what you're wearing and you
have to change in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And the last one I was surprised about adult acne.
Oh so I've been stealing my daughter's pimple patches after
I complained about how expensive they were and do you
really need that? And I've decided now that it's happening
to me that the whole family gets a patch.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh good, we're a house full of girls.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think that's part of the list. But that probably
doesn't even cover everything.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, so that's what I got.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But here's the good news. I believe menopause is having
its moment. I mean, think about it. Leanne Morgan's show
is big. I mean that's you know, just Melanie. Yeah,
the TikTok Instagram because she started the started the we
Just Do Not Care Club and it's for it was
(03:20):
originally for perimenopause and menopausal women. But then I got
in her TikTok Live and I asked the question, so
do you start caring again in postmenopause? And they said, no,
you still don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So you actually like that, you know, if you're not
gonna like the rest of your life, well, you know,
care about the little things.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You just really don't you realize.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So anyway, it's just it's just nice to know that
we have something that that we the world canal discuss
and share and learn about and take the stigma off
of it. Because, you know what, I raising two sons,
the era of erectile dysfunction ADS. That's has been rough.
They have to hear about me. Now they can listen
(04:07):
about they can learn about hot flashes.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm not a man hater, but if this was happening
to men, no sleep, sweating, you know, word finding, brain fog,
everything that I've listed, yeah, I mean, the world would
fall apart.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It really would.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's just an opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, I'm excited today that we have two ladies who
can share.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
More about this is hortantnt God for them.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They are lifelong friends who are both successful producers, actors,
and writers, each in their own right, and they've joined
together to create, produce, and start a YouTube comedy series
that followed two friends in the throes of menopause called
The Third Act. Please welcome Jane Hijak and Sherrie Duran.
Welcome to Love ladies.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Ay here, it's so nice for you to be able
to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Thank you for coming, and I love what you're doing.
So you have a the twelve episode comedy series on
YouTube and each episode is like two or three minutes.
It's fun to watch and you can that's one thing
you can binge watch in like an hour. I guess, yeah,
it's really great. How did you two decide to do
this together? And when I said to you were lifelong friends,
(05:19):
you were college roommates. I understand, so you've been doing
working together for a long time. How did this come about?
This new project?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
So it's interesting. I'm shary by the way. I'm not
sure my name's up there, but I'm sharing Jean's over there.
We were college roommates. We worked together in California in production.
We had two different producing companies. We did small projects
together and COVID hit like the rest of us, what's
going to happen during COVID? And so we were wanted
(05:50):
to write something or do something, and I said, Jane,
why don't we write about what we're going through.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
We're both going.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Through it and She's like no, And Jane had never
written before. It became a It kind of became a
camaraderie with us. I wasn't working as an actor anymore.
I just work in production. And she said, well, I'll
write for the first time if you act again. And
so we challenged each other and I don't know, like
twenty zooms later, we had the first season written and
we were ready to take off. And Jane, you can
(06:18):
take it from there and talk a little bit more
about what happened.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Well, I've happened to watch Inside the Mom's Club as
well as my partner Sherry, and I know your motto
if you don't.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Laugh, you are going to cross exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
That sums this show up. If you want to learn anything,
don't ask us.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
But if you want to open up the conversation and
laugh and maybe get a little more comfortable saying to
your doctor, I am really dry, and I don't mean
driving cracking down there.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
What can I do? Because we will go through that.
You will see an episode of that.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You will see me looking right there at her and
telling her, yeah, you're really dry.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
So it really does open up the conversation.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
As I said, when I saw the motto of your show,
I go, oh, my.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Gosh, this is the third act.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And it is and the mom's ladies they'll say, I mean,
it is one of those things.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Misery loves company.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
So if I can sit there and talk to Sherry
about my acne, which is so screwed up that at
age fifty three to fifty seven, I've had acne, and
then we can hot flash together and that and all
of a sudden, it's almost kind of enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh I did that too, And so, oh, you guys
are so funny. How did you come up with the
short timing of your shows? I mean, because it's hilarious
and a short amount of time and you can relate
really fast.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So how did you guys think of that?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I'm going to take this. I'm going to take this
share because I know she's brilliant, and she'll say it's
it is a real.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Exercise to write a beginning, middle, and end in that
short of time.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Yeah, but I'm going to just tell you the real truth. Money.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You know, we knew we can't write thirty minute episodes
and because we literally thought we'd be holding our cell
phone and shooting these and then my husband started saying, wait,
I think one can move with you. So we had
all these ideas and story short somebody came.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
On and said, we want to produce this.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
This is great, and we are just so happy. It's
not a lot of money, but still it's not ours.
And then they pull out and it's ours, and so
we get our great friends in the business that are
working for a little I won't say to nothing because
they're working for little money. And this is what we created. Sarah,
do you want to go anywhere?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I mean no, no, that's really it. But I think
there was something interesting about can you arc a story
in that short of time and get an audience to
care about those characters? And that was kind of the
for me. That was kind of the fun is that
as a writer and the challenge Jane too, I was like, Okay,
we have to you know, the audience has to want
to care about these two women, and I think they do.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You want to cheer them on well, and I appreciate
you noting that our motto is if you don't laugh,
sometimes you're going to cry. We might have added misery
loves company too.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Because yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I also noticed in your episodes a lot of them
occur in the bathroom, and so, I mean, I've Julie
and I have shared a lot of menopause issues together,
but never there well.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
A bathroom, a king size bed. I mean, there's a
lot of sharing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So is the is there a thought behind that or well?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
So the characters in the show are Josephine and Lauren.
I play Lauren, she plays Josephine, based loosely on our personalities.
I don't think we strayed too far, A little far
and some I don't drink as much as Lauren.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I did notice that one that made me laugh.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Have them video And there's really no rhyme or reason
to it other than we thought the sound was better
in the bathroom, which did.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And the light I mean, because we thought two women,
where would it be and we have windows there. I
know everybody doesn't have windows in their bathroom, but I do,
and I am sitting in front of a huge window.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
That's why I love so good.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
I mean our show, Yeah, we could show it, so
there's really I mean, it was just a silliness of like,
where would these two women do this? And they're not
you know, they're not producers that they don't work in
how they're are two women that want to make a video.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah. Back, and Josephine is the lawyer. Is that right? Yes?
Well I can appreciate that because being an I'm an
recovering attorney here, so watching you go through it as
a lawyer, that's that that adds an extra layer of
comedy to it because lawyers are pretty buttoned up people,
so to be going through all this is pretty hilarious
(10:49):
and that's a lot of fun to it.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I home to that.
Speaker 11 (10:52):
That.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Also, it's based on a friend of mine who is
a district attorney and she had that experience. So a
lot of our stories have come from different places. But
she is really really struggling in her job. And I
was talking to her one night over a glass of
wine and I was like, what what what do you do?
Speaker 10 (11:07):
What?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
She was Sherry, I'm you know, And so that's kind
of how that story. Of course, you know, we took
some liberties. Yeah, that's how it came to be.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, brain fog is an attorney is not a good thing.
I'll tell you. That's a rough one. Yeah, not what
your clients want to see. Then you don't even you know,
you can't pull now.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So I was reading a little bit about the National
Menopause Show.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Which you guys are going to be at. Is that correct?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Ya?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And so I feel like this is i mean, something
that every woman should know about, like because it's something
I mean tell us like it's open to anybody and everybody,
is it not?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
So so it's the National Menopause Show in Anaheim. They
had their first one in Toronto and it was made
by women for women, and I kind of reached out
to them and they reached back to me and they're like,
oh my gosh, we need comedy. You know, you just
want to see a bunch of doctors and kind of
go what's going on right, you know? And I said, well,
(12:09):
we can break the ice if you want that.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
So it's going to be on October fourth and fifth
in Anaheim at the Anaheim Convention Center.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, and did read that.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Actually, we have a code for our show. It's called
the thhe the twenty. If you put the twenty, they'll
give you a twenty percent discount till October third on it.
But I also received a letter today. This is how
great this organization is. They're like, hey, if you have
women friends that can't even afford and it is very
many at the cost. I think it's like thirty five
dollars to get in. Plus we got a twenty percent
(12:40):
of discount. But she said, if you have friends that
can't go, tell me and I'll get your pass. Oh
these ladies care.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That is great.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I love that because like some people don't feel like
they can talk about it, they can ask about it,
and if you go there, you're like, oh, me too,
me too, me too, that's happening, and so you get
all your inform and you actually feel better when you
leave there, like something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know what I'm saying. So I'm super excited.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, I absolutely love the whole thing because there's so
many things as women that we don't talk about and
share with each other. For example, when I had my children,
no one told me about sleep deprivation. I mean, you know,
when you have a baby, you're you didn't realize you're
gonna be up for a year, right, he tells you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No one says a.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Practice law with no sleep, kind of like when you're
in menopause, same sort.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Of thing exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But so it's nice that they're sharing, you know, that
they have something like that where we can share it.
And I love that they're doing with comedy too, because
some of this you just have to laugh for your Yeah,
you will cry for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And do you guys think you've hit the mark? Like right,
the timing is really really good. You've got Okay, you've
got halle Berry. Let's just talk about that. Yeah, you've
got you guys. And then we also have I mean, Midi.
You can't forget them. They're just out there promoting like
you know, all of that stuff. So and you know,
(14:01):
I was very sad they took away some of my
hormone drugs this year, but eventually we'll get those back.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I mean when you know, when.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You get diagnosed with breast cancer, that's right, Oh, that's right.
They take away some of that stuff. So, I mean
that is something that you know, I look forward to.
Hopefully one day, fingers crossed.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I can get back on track.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, welllet's couldn't get everybody together too and explore what's
I think different options are for, like supplements. I mean
you literally try everything.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And my poor husband has to sleep in fifty eight
degree whether or you know now the temperature.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Mean in your house?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, our house is like super cold.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Is that a fight in y'all's house?
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Thank god, it's not in mine. It's kind of strange.
I that's sorry. I'm not gonna but I am ready
to rip this off.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
They're fine with that, We're good with that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
My big thing, I'm not like hot all the time.
I've always been cold and that kind of stayed with me.
But trust me, I have the brain fat fog, I
have the crazy moods where my husband's probably like what
the heck all the time with me I had, you know,
it's just it's so much more the acne. I know
some of you are looking the hair loss word. There's
(15:15):
so many things, so that's not mine. So yeah, thank god,
he's not never been a hot hot hot you know,
so our temperature is pretty good.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
What about you?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No, no, no, My husband he loves that. He could
cook a steak on the bed at night. That's what
he's tells me. I could cook a steak right now
because I'm just sweating. And then I have the belly.
I have the belly thing. I've never had a belly
in my life. And I work out. I don't work out.
I tried yoga, you know, diets, and and so I
(15:47):
just named her. I call her Betty, Betty the bitch,
Betty the bitch. Yeah, well, at least you carry on.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I have to find a name.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I have been dealing with that. And my husband thinks
he's being kind about the whole. He said, you know,
you could just go get liposuction. Get that sucked right up.
And who wants to hear that you need LiPo suction?
I mean, that's not what you want to hear from
your husband.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, yeah, husband, he has a little a little extra
girl in the in the bed with him, and just
keep that way.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, that'll excite him.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That'll be like, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So you all are going to have a season two heay,
and what's that going to look?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Like, okay, well we have had a season two, so
we're on one and two and season two we just
kind of meet the family and we see how we
spread the love with menopause, right, Cherry.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Yes, well it's so we really bring in husbands in
season two. It's out right now. We bring in our children.
Jane has a daughter in it and a son, and
how it affects all of the family family, and how
it's affecting men. And they are pretty funny. I will say.
We have Tom Lennon, who is from Reno ninety one one.
(17:01):
I don't know if you've seen that, very very funny actor.
I'm very fortunate. We have Michael Dorn from Star Trek.
We have Jen Ray from In the Middle who played
the neighbor. She's on it. We were so lucky people
who have watched it and said, this is funny.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm in yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
How do the men describe it for the listeners who
haven't seen it yet, Like, what do they say, I'm
dying to know the men?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think they're I mean anybody, I'm not
even just Tom and Michael. But people who have watched
it said everybody, should you know that I opened themselves.
Everybody should be watching this because then you don't call
your wife or your partner whatever crazy you kind of go.
I have no idea, which trust me, we didn't either
(17:48):
a few years ago, did we. I mean, nobody talked
about menopause. And when Shary and I started this, we
got done shooting it at the end of September three
years ago. And I'm watching football and I saw a
hot Flash commercial and I said.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
No way.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I mean, we are so on the pulse they are
talking and so, yeah, it's just and I think they
can appreciate, I said, And I think we talked about
this before the show, but you you see how quick
those commercials come with erectile dysfunction.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, oh yeah quick.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
We got that blue pill. We don't have any blue
pill or pink anything. It's about time it's being talked about.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Absolutely, when you will were pioneers too, because you started
this a few years ago. And yeah, now we've got
Now we have Leanne Morgan and wet and this woman
Melanie here's really you know, she's just a million followers.
I think she literally said she got in her left
the grocery store, sat in her car and did this
one video crying about menopause, and it got home and
she had a million followers and there are women. They
(18:52):
they started chapters We Do Not Care Club. Well that
you are, by the way, welcome to join us in
our mom to Rage and the chapter you all are
welcome to join the Mom's Club too, because we need.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
But I think it's key, like what you were saying,
Like they I mean, people say like all saying, oh god,
she's you know I like I said, we I have
two daughters, so they're going to go through it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Girls.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
So what I'm saying is that they're like, oh my god,
she's on the crazy train again, and they snapchat each
other and talk about me all the time. But they
also when I lived in Europe in eighty seven, I
am not allowed to give blood because that's when mad
cow disease was. So now they go back and forth
from oh, she's on the menopause crazy train and she
(19:36):
has had cow disease. So it's like it's important that
we don't you know, get you know, blamed about like
being crazy all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, well the whole crazy thing is really yeah yeah, anyway,
well it is.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
It's not alone.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We have not alone. We have women, yeah that are
with us.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Some zuber moms who have a lot of questions for
our guests. So welcome zoomer moms. Welcome to the Mom's Club. Whoo,
hello ladies, thank you for joining us. And let's start
with Mary Ann. Mary Anne, can you tell us your name,
where you're from, a little bit about yourself and do
you have a question for our guests?
Speaker 12 (20:17):
I do, Sherry, I believe it was you. You did
some World War two documentary and something about Anne more Lindbergh.
So I'm wondering if if the comic part is relief
for your sit side of things that you like to do,
or do you just like both of them.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Oh, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
It's funny because that was another reason Jane and I
did this project because we've always been cast as the
serious dramatic and I love comedy and people say you're
kind of funny, showy, like you should be doing comedy.
So I think it was a good release. And I
also think that in any show. I think even in
(20:56):
a dramatic, there should be comedy because that's like, I mean,
that is how we deal with it. But that's interesting
for seeing that so history Speaks, which I loved. I
did make a World War Two documentary and a huge
amount of ammar Linberg, who's actually way ahead of all
of us having these shows. She was writing books, you know,
back when women didn't write books.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh yeah, crazy and too.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hey, Marian, tell us a little bit about yourself. Where
are you from?
Speaker 12 (21:19):
And George Freeport, Louisiana, Northwest Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay, great, well, thank you so much for joining us.
Lay yeah, Laura Lee, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell
us your name, where you're from, and a little bit
about yourself, and do you have a question for the guests.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
As Charley, thanks, it's good to be here today. It's
so nice to meet you all. I'm in East Tennessee,
just southside of Knoxville. I have two hounddogs that I
love and they smell bad. They're right here that the
(21:57):
I'm a University Tennessee fan. If you want me to
stay Rocky talk, I don't know if you're familiar.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh okay, now you love it, love it anyway.
Speaker 11 (22:09):
Cars football is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here, that's right.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
We've got our longhorns. You've got you know ut Knoxville.
Speaker 11 (22:15):
Yeah, yeah, all right, then go for garde my question,
and you sort of touched on it a little bit
a while ago, some of the bathroom things that come
along with you know, it really started for me a
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few years ago. But the incontinent, I mean, what the heck?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, that's a fun one, right, Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 11 (22:48):
I mean, have you guys worked that into your it's
to talk about, right, So, I don't know, if you've
done an episode, maybe I need to go watch it.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
I'd love you to see these because we do.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I remember one time Shary and I have social media too,
so sometimes i'd just be at the drug store and
It'll be the incontinence. There's you you've see now signs
for at the drug store and I'm just in that
in that area.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
So yeah, sure, you do you have anything to add
with that?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
We do if actually the end of season one, if
you watch, we do bring it up where I I
don't want to give it away, but I do have
to be somewhere, so you might want to check that out.
It's not a pleasant place, but it does happen, and
it is It's just it is a part of it.
It's part of estrogen. Again, we're not doctors. I can't,
but from all of our research and research for myself,
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that's an issue that I deal with, you know. And
you know the kegels can you do?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:43):
And estrogen and putting that back in or or gestrian
or whatever it is that you find. You know, again,
you know, the biggest thing is finding that advocate doctor
that's going to help you. You know, who's gonna who's
going to help you. I went to FOURD by the
way before I found the doctor.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So yeah, that's a really good question. We really wanted
to know how people can like what you're like. We
know these are characters and everything, but how people can
prepare better or what you think? I mean, people really,
I think need to be with a menopause specialist. I
mean you can get so lost on what you.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Need to do. Agreed or what would you say to that?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I mean I don't want to say anything against our doctors,
but most of our doctors that we've gone to have
studied so little about menopause. Now, for the past one
and a half two years, it's been like menopause heaven,
if that's what you want to call it. But now
it's a business, and now we are at the point
where we have to I think we through all the
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crap because there's going to be a lot of quick this, this, this,
and you've got to find the doctor that has studied menopause,
which I have one.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
I really think.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's why my menopause has been much better than it
could have been, because I found her early and I
thought I was so ahead of the game.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
I said, you know, I'm I'm just still ahead of
the game.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I want to get my testing done and I'm sure
I'm not going through it, and blah blah blah. I
take my test and she literally goes, I don't know
how you're functioning. You have like no estrogen, so I
don't even know. I mean, I think the next day
I've been hop flashed at it.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Whatever would have happened.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But again not We're all different and we all believe
different things.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I am taking.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Hormones and I know at one point it was the
worst thing ever.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
And I know with you Julie, yeah, is because she's you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Know, don't worry, I'm going to get them back.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm going to get them back.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But you know, I really do believe because I was
so early, well it doesn't sound like I was but
I was young when I kind of said, let's just
see what the levels are.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you really got in on that kind
of early. And this is the thing. People don't even
ask to check your levels. A lot of times people
are just throwing this, Like you said, you got to
weed out all the stuff, because people are throwing this
at you and that at you, and you're like, really,
what is.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It that I need?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's true, like if you don't have blood work and
you don't do all that. I'm also a nurse, so
I mean I talk about this stuff all the time,
and it's important to find what is going to work
for you because none of us need to be miserable
or misery loves company.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But well it's tricky too because I had a hysterectomy. Yeah, yeah,
I'm a total total And they don't really follow up
with you very well.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And yeah, you should be just fine. You had a
hysterect to me, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, that's kind of yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
And I think too, if you if you think about it,
you know, the third act of our lives, which we're
all in our approaching. You know, you're going to live
thirty years, forty years in that that third act perhaps
what is the quality of your life exactly? That's that's
the I think the primary question that I've learned all
this time. And then you can go and try and
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find your people to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, so that's the third act? Is there the final act?
What's the next thing?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Is we twist it to something else?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Friendship that I was just curious.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I think it's death Monica's I mean, this is really
and it is such a lively, great thing. I mean
what people would ask us, well, what are you going
to do after menopause?
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Well, first thing, it lasts a long time time. My
doctor says, it lasts forever. I mean, postmenopause is menopause.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
And I know some of you women may have not
been having as you know, the symptoms, or maybe you
did and now they're easier, but I promise you they
can come back, and you are in menopause throughout your life.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
So when they did ask us that, I go, well,
we're going to take this to that many years and
there's a lot of things. We just don't have to
talk about symptoms, but we can talk about kids, sleep,
and we can talk about divorce. We can talk about
changing of careers. There's so much that we women that
have been pushed under the rug. It's like we can't
produce children anymore, so.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Do away with them. And now it's like, uh, oh,
watch out here we come.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, well, Nancy, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us
a little bit about yourself, and do you have a
question for our guests.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yes, Hey, I'm Nancy Barger.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Hi, Laurlie. I'm in Knoxville, so go Big Orange. We're
right down the street. My best friend is actually an
obg y N so she can help you.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
She's a great menopause specialist.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
She took my.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Uterus out a couple of years ago.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
It's been fabulous and she says I'll go through menopause
in a couple of years and I trust her. But
I'm having the hot flashes and the incontinence and all
of that stuff. I'm a mama for I'm about to
be a grandmother for the first time. I actually host
a radio show here, so I make fun of people
all the time. And I made fun of my hysterectomy
(28:54):
for a good month, which was on the air two
one hundred thousand people that all know that I've had
a hyreck to me, so trying to bring awareness of
that situation. And Leanne Morgan is a friend of mine,
so I love the fact that she's there. But one
thing I've not quite figured out yet is how do
you apologize to your husband and your kids after a
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menopause mood swing because it happens a lot and there
is only so often that you can blame it on
your zoloft or whatever else you're taking when you're like, oh,
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I mean, do you have to apologize?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I mean, let's think about if college football, like the
cable went out and something the meltdown was from him.
But no, I don't know that's a good question. I
mean it depends, Sherry.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
I don't apologize to my husband or son and they
know I'm going around crazy. Uh you know, I think
I think it's still just talking about it. I'll tell
you I finish talk about it quite a bit because
we have a show about it, and my husband's not
that kind of person. He's like, oh please, you know
I well I shouldn't. I'm going to share it. I
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won't say his name. So I had somebody going on
with my lady parts and I was like, honey, I
need you to look. I need to do something to me.
He's like, get away from me, and I'm chasing him
through the house. I didn't realize I was actually doing that,
and he's like, what is wrong with you? And I
need you to look because I think somebody's really and
he's like, wow, this is not no, no, this is
(30:29):
and I realized, Wow, I'm really asking more of him.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Than he can handle.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, he's willing to give in this. He's trying to
be understanding and I think just communicating, especially you said
you have four kids. Do you have boys?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
I have foy.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Girls and two boys, and my girls get it. My
husband's like your husband. If you say the word tampon
in front of him, he will have he'll melt an
emotional and physical meltdown.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
He's never bought one.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
He doesn't want to see it, he doesn't want to
talk about it. He doesn't want to acknowledge that that's
how women have children. In the delivery room, he stayed
at the north pole the entire time. And so I think,
like when the mood swings kind of come around, he
is a man will never understand what we're going through.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And I think it's frustrating for him because.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
He doesn't get it, and so then you know, sometimes
him and the boys just kind of snap and I'm like,
m yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Think you can sign him up for a class.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I think, like what, yeah, an educational.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I think to you said you had a best friend
that you cut your uterus, Well, that's that's there's a
statement right there.
Speaker 10 (31:37):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
You know, I think for Jane and I having that
best friend sometimes that's going to be that's the best medicine,
is that they're going to understand, even past your your
family and everyone, what you're going through. You just call
him and say, hey, my husband's like really winky right now,
he is not getting what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
I've actually had her call him, Yeah, what's.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Can I meet her number?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
She's ther whole hand in her who who and starts
asking you questions.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
About that's a little weird, but you know, you.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Know, I'd all jokes aside too.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I just think open communication is the best, and it
is so humbling. It is so humbling to be like
that and treat somebody who loves me like he does,
and my daughter entreat him like that, So I really
know what you.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Mean and then you have to apologize, but I think
you do. And just open communication, you know, because.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's it's just we are we're laughing and we're funny
and we're laughing.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
But you know what, it's so vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
We are losing so much of what we worked hard
to get, whether that was as we worked out or
did that or had beautiful hair, and it's it's just
and even people paying attention to us.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Remember when you go on the street, you'd always get.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Hellos, and then all of a sudden you don't get
even the door open.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Wow, I don't go to the bank anymore. But it's different.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
It's different, and until maybe you get really old and
then may be somebody else. But yeah, just that open
communication and if you have those people there that are
there to and you can.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Let your guard down.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, I think that's really key to being very vulnerable.
And you said something in the beginning, Jane about the
clumps of hair. Okay, so we've had this huge argument
in my house. I used to be married. I'm not
in ler, but that was a huge thing and I
was like, do you think this is great for me
that I am losing by them, and then of course
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we all stick it on the wall to get it
at the end of the shower. I mean, this is
a thing, you know what I mean, maybe I forgot
a few times and so you have a couple clumps
of hair there. But this is really not easy for
us to do either. So you're right about the communication.
If you're just like open about it, it kind of
takes the elephant out of the room, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, I would think so, Jane. You also mentioned something
about how you how you looked at differently, and I
did I read quicktly. Were you the homecoming queen at
Oil City High School?
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Though I'm a lawyer by train.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We're going to show a picture in a minute, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But I mean, how does it feel like that the
homecoming queen also goes through menopause? You know, everybody goes
through menopause eventually, you know, if you're live long enough,
you're lucky enough, that's what happens. Right, So it is
a different you know, we all we all experience it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And yeah, aging is an honor, as I tell the girl.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But I also love to something that Nancy talked about
that's why we have the Mom's Club. That's why we're friends,
you know what. We can talk to our husbands and
there and try to help them understand what we're going through.
But that's why we have these close friendships with other women.
Women are great about having friendships and being tight. And
(35:00):
like when when you're feeling like crying or you're you
got acne and what are you going to do? And
I called Julie. Yeah, she'll make me feel so much better.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You call me anyway, because you're a hypochondriac and I'm
a nurse, so you're.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Like, yeah, I didn't even need menopause to have a
lot of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I just it was. It was already there.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
No anyway, So how did you guys handle like the
casting for this show? I'm dying to know, Like, you know,
did you have a ton of people or tell me
a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Sounds like you had some good volunteers who liked you,
But did you have to castro cast a wider net
or how did you.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, it's it was so wonderful to be able to
cast people of our age.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Because of our age, you're not getting cast as much, right,
So that was a wonderful thing.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
And we used, of course, all our friends, and then
when we didn't have to, we just went into casting
and it was great, and you know, of course we
wanted to get some names. And you know, it's funny
if you have enough connections out here. We do live
in La yes, so you just come across these actors.
Michael Doran happens to be one of my best friends.
(36:06):
And Tom Lennon. Actually our children.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Went to preschool together. So let me tell you a
great story about Tom Lennon. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I didn't talk to him for years. And Sherry and
I are going through I think Tom Cruise will do it.
How about wrapping it? So we're going through this and
I said, you know what I know Tom Lennon.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
She goes, what you know? Tom Lennon.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
If you ladies don't know me, was on something called
Reno nine to one one and he was a cop
that wore way.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Too short shorts.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
He's just a funny guy. So anyway, I give him
a text. I said, Hey, this is Jane, and I said,
we have this. I you know I'm thinking about I'd
love you to play that my best friend's husband, And
I knew this dude did not watch this and within
three minutes, right Erry, he wrote me back and said,
I'm in.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
So it's just amazing friends and people.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
In season two. One of the extraordinary things when you
watch that season and we are writing season three right now,
yes we're in pre production. It was amazing to how
we had women the age of fourteen to ninety telling
the story. And there's something magical about that that we
didn't realize. We didn't. I don't know that we did
that on purpose. It would just happened to be the
(37:21):
episodes we wrote. And I went, oh, my goodness, like,
look at all these different generations of women telling the
story and being funny and sincere and vulnerable all those things,
and that was an amazing part of the casting too.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I think I'm glad you explained that.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I read that the fourteen to ninety I was like,
where are we with the fourteen year old part? But
I get what you're saying now, So I'm glad we
touched base on that.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Do you each have a favorite episode?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I do, and it's so funny because it's not a
funny one. But I'm going to probably break a little something.
But because if I would love you to see it
and how it progresses. But there's this one where I
get so angry her and she stands me up and
I'm waiting for her to go to another another wonderful
guru session or something. And then the next episode we
(38:10):
see what we were angry. We're in a fight, definitely,
we see each other. We run into each other in
a drug store and we find out I guess I
don't have to tell you. We find out what is wrong,
but it is. It is uh something that happens sometimes
because of menopause, whatever, a result, whatever. And she opens
(38:31):
up in a drug store and it's it's very touching
and I absolutely adore that episode, but it's probably nothing.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Not like if we started watching three together.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
That's not an episode I'd show you until you know
the characters and you care about them.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
And you go, whoa, yeah that's mine. And it's called surprise.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Okay, gosh, there's so many I mean, I love I
want to give away things too, you know, just to
be fun and be silly. It was really I guess
it was the research of it too. It was really
fun to do the episode about smoking pot, so we
thought we'd try it that'll cure it. Good, because that's
the thing to women, am I right? You are you
(39:10):
just don't know what to do. You will try anything
at some point. Right. So somebody had said, oh, you
know if you use you know, herb, little herb, And
I said, well, I haven't done that since I don't
even know when. Let's okay, let's do it. Let's try it.
And so that whole kind of that experiment. And you know,
I have a son who's twenty three, and so I
had to get this vape thing and I'm asking him,
I don't even know how this thing works. I mean,
I thought you, I thought you lit it. I thought
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you lit the vape thing. I didn't know, you know,
I just hit a ball with my son. It was
actually a bonding moment for my son because he was like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Mom?
Speaker 6 (39:39):
I said, I need you to show me just enough
of this, but I don't know how to use it.
And uh. And so that one was a lot of fun.
And that one actually the first day I had forty
thousand views.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Oh oh my gosh, that was our biggest.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
It was so weird. I was like, why why? And
I think because we were so women, our age trying
to you know, I was trying to score some pot,
you know, the car, and I was talking about all
the Navy. I don't know if you guys have been
to one of those stores. It is fascinating. I did
research it and I went. I was like, oh my god,
it's like a candy store here there.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Highly educated, highly educational by far, I mean the first
definitely it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Now, Okay, well this is so much fun. So where
can our our audience find your show? And where do
we find you? On social media?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Okay, so we're always at the third act and the
is t HPE the third Act, which I love. On YouTube,
you can go there also on fire TV. Our first
two seasons are streaming and then season three will be
coming out. So on YouTube it's at the third act.
Social media is the same, so you can see us
on Instagram. Big One coming up fourth and fifth of October.
(40:49):
We'll be at the Anaheim Convention Center for the National
Metopause Show, which will be fun and we're hoping to
parlay that. I hope put this out there, ladies. I
have a theory, Jane, you want to where I think
this show is going to live.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Next I hope you say Austin, Texas.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
You know when you go to the doctor's office and
you have to sit and wait, well, you know because
your nurse and you're watching those TVs and they're showing
you how to make like beat juice because you're bm
I and measured. Wouldn't it be great if you're going
to really talk about women if you're in watching our
show before you.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I mean, that would be great.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
That would be just relaxes you.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
You're opened up and you go, I can talk about
cracks wherever they're happening because those women did it, because.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
They did it out on the lobby. So and now
I'm gonna Yeah. I don't know if doctors would love
that because you're like in there an hour and a half,
like you're like, hey, I's.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Out here and they mentioned it and so you know
that's great. I think that's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that really is. Well, thank you so much for
joining us. This has been so.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Much being open and talking about it all blood.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, like I said, this is the menopause moment.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So now I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Absolutely, well and.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
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Speaker 2 (42:34):
To It's one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, it's made us, It's made us.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
We're still friends.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
So we're still friends because we have to share a
room when we're here in Los Angeles because some people
are cheap. That would be me actually, so I'm talking
about myself.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I apologize anyway, lunch today, I know, yeah, I will
do that.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And also we have some exciting things to announce. We're
gonna have a big new sponsor coming on board that
tease ladies, just just wait for it. Pretty soon. We're
gonna have some really amazing, as we say here in
the Mom's sponsor coming on board. And we're also gonna
ask you to join us across the country at our
(43:16):
live events. We've been doing these across the country and
we're now thrilled to report that we'll be live in Nashville, Atlanta,
North Dallas, and Shreveport soon, so check the Inside the
Mom's Club website for local event dates. This is gonna
be fun free and I think that we should have
a menopause speaker. I think we m that will be perfect.
(43:39):
There'll be limited tickets available, so you'll be able to
secure your ticket to at Inside the Moms Club dot com.
So definitely please join us for that. Well, Julie, this
always goes by way too fast.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
It did, and I'm really glad I didn't mention as
a nurse, I didn't really go down the road of
everything about menopause.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I behave I on my best.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Beha. I'm glad, but I'm sure we'll talk about it
later because I have some questions. Oh great, Yeah, No,
it's always it just goes by so fast.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
It goes by fast. This is an incredibly important topic.
And I can tell you that, ladies, you're in the
hot spot. And I mean I don't mean that you know,
no pun intended, but what I'm saying is like, yeah,
take it, take those jackets off.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
So anyway, I think that this is key and that
women like you said it lasts a really long time,
and we should not be miserable and suffering and bounce
ideas off each other. Open up, take the elephant out
of the room, and it's all good.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Mom's unite. Yeah, we are together on this. Well, we
will be back next time with celebrities and extraordinary women.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Just thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
We know all your me time is precious and valuable.
Thanks mom for sharing it with us. Remember our Mom's
club model. If you don't laugh, sometimes.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
You are going to cry.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
So keep laughing. Moms. We'll see you next time inside
the Mom's Club.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Yesh Hi
Welcome, Mom's Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club. I'm your host,
Monica Samuels, and I'm here with my lovely co host,
Julie organd missed you. I've missed you too.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean, you're my roommate, you're my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I give you a hard time. I mean, all of
those things you do.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You do, but we know we're good roommates. We're good roommates.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I mean last night you asked me to hit you
if you snored.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I knew it was coming, and I woke up at two.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Thirty am and I've been up ever since because that's
the life of a you know, middle aged mom.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So sure, I mean, insomnia is no joke right now,
it is no joke.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I tried everything that I could think of to go
back to sleep, but every thought I could think of
was running through my mind, and I.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Just, yeah, how often do you wake up with not
being able to you know, insomnia?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Pretty much every night? But you know what, now, I
do have a product we'll talk about later that has
helped me to sleep. Oay, get back, So we'll get
to that.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But lately I think I've been suffering from a few things. Okay,
so this is my most concerning thing. And you're a
really good friend, so you can tell me what you
think about this.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is this dementia or is it? I meant more menopause.
Now I'll tell you. I'll tell you what happened or
what's been happening. So my son's friend was helping me
with something, and I said, Danny, I needed to go
into my office and go in there. And you know
that thing next to the door that has wheels on
it that you put stuff on. He said, oh, the cart.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The cart.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It has a word, the cart. Yes, So that is
the biggest thing for me. The brain fog, I am
why am I in this room? Why did I come here?
What's happening? And finding the words? So that's the biggest thing.
And so yesterday I was smart enough. I was with
all my Texas longhorned football friends this weekend. So I
fired up that text group and I said, girls, give
(01:53):
me your one thing. And of course my friend you know, responded,
I can only give one, and I was like, yes,
I don't have all day. Give me the one thing
that bugged you the most about this new stage of life,
and do you want to know what they are? Yeah,
what's the least Maybe probably one was like this spare
tire around my waist and I work out five six
days a week, and I say, well, don't work out
(02:15):
five six days a week if you're still gonna have Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's only because I don't really exercise as much as
she does.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
The other one was insomnia, and then, I mean the
other one was.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Obviously sweating through the sheets.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not only the sheets, but what you're wearing and you
have to change in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And the last one I was surprised about adult acne.
Oh so I've been stealing my daughter's pimple patches after
I complained about how expensive they were and do you
really need that? And I've decided now that it's happening
to me that the whole family gets a patch.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh good, we're a house full of girls.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think that's part of the list. But that probably
doesn't even cover everything.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, so that's what I got.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But here's the good news. I believe menopause is having
its moment. I mean, think about it. Leanne Morgan's show
is big. I mean that's you know, just Melanie. Yeah,
the TikTok Instagram because she started the started the we
Just Do Not Care Club and it's for it was
(03:20):
originally for perimenopause and menopausal women. But then I got
in her TikTok Live and I asked the question, so
do you start caring again in postmenopause? And they said, no,
you still don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So you actually like that, you know, if you're not
gonna like the rest of your life, well, you know,
care about the little things.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You just really don't you realize.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So anyway, it's just it's just nice to know that
we have something that that we the world canal discuss
and share and learn about and take the stigma off
of it. Because, you know what, I raising two sons,
the era of erectile dysfunction ADS. That's has been rough.
They have to hear about me. Now they can listen
(04:07):
about they can learn about hot flashes.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm not a man hater, but if this was happening
to men, no sleep, sweating, you know, word finding, brain fog,
everything that I've listed, yeah, I mean, the world would
fall apart.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It really would.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's just an opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, I'm excited today that we have two ladies who
can share.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
More about this is hortantnt God for them.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They are lifelong friends who are both successful producers, actors,
and writers, each in their own right, and they've joined
together to create, produce, and start a YouTube comedy series
that followed two friends in the throes of menopause called
The Third Act. Please welcome Jane Hijak and Sherrie Duran.
Welcome to Love ladies.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Ay here, it's so nice for you to be able
to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Thank you for coming, and I love what you're doing.
So you have a the twelve episode comedy series on
YouTube and each episode is like two or three minutes.
It's fun to watch and you can that's one thing
you can binge watch in like an hour. I guess, yeah,
it's really great. How did you two decide to do
this together? And when I said to you were lifelong friends,
(05:19):
you were college roommates. I understand, so you've been doing
working together for a long time. How did this come about?
This new project?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
So it's interesting. I'm shary by the way. I'm not
sure my name's up there, but I'm sharing Jean's over there.
We were college roommates. We worked together in California in production.
We had two different producing companies. We did small projects
together and COVID hit like the rest of us, what's
going to happen during COVID? And so we were wanted
(05:50):
to write something or do something, and I said, Jane,
why don't we write about what we're going through.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
We're both going.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Through it and She's like no, And Jane had never
written before. It became a It kind of became a
camaraderie with us. I wasn't working as an actor anymore.
I just work in production. And she said, well, I'll
write for the first time if you act again. And
so we challenged each other and I don't know, like
twenty zooms later, we had the first season written and
we were ready to take off. And Jane, you can
(06:18):
take it from there and talk a little bit more
about what happened.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Well, I've happened to watch Inside the Mom's Club as
well as my partner Sherry, and I know your motto
if you don't.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Laugh, you are going to cross exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
That sums this show up. If you want to learn anything,
don't ask us.
Speaker 9 (06:38):
But if you want to open up the conversation and
laugh and maybe get a little more comfortable saying to
your doctor, I am really dry, and I don't mean
driving cracking down there.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
What can I do? Because we will go through that.
You will see an episode of that.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You will see me looking right there at her and
telling her, yeah, you're really dry.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
So it really does open up the conversation.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
As I said, when I saw the motto of your show,
I go, oh, my.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Gosh, this is the third act.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And it is and the mom's ladies they'll say, I mean,
it is one of those things.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Misery loves company.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
So if I can sit there and talk to Sherry
about my acne, which is so screwed up that at
age fifty three to fifty seven, I've had acne, and
then we can hot flash together and that and all
of a sudden, it's almost kind of enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh I did that too, And so, oh, you guys
are so funny. How did you come up with the
short timing of your shows? I mean, because it's hilarious
and a short amount of time and you can relate
really fast.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So how did you guys think of that?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I'm going to take this. I'm going to take this
share because I know she's brilliant, and she'll say it's
it is a real.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Exercise to write a beginning, middle, and end in that
short of time.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Yeah, but I'm going to just tell you the real truth. Money.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You know, we knew we can't write thirty minute episodes
and because we literally thought we'd be holding our cell
phone and shooting these and then my husband started saying, wait,
I think one can move with you. So we had
all these ideas and story short somebody came.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
On and said, we want to produce this.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
This is great, and we are just so happy. It's
not a lot of money, but still it's not ours.
And then they pull out and it's ours, and so
we get our great friends in the business that are
working for a little I won't say to nothing because
they're working for little money. And this is what we created. Sarah,
do you want to go anywhere?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I mean no, no, that's really it. But I think
there was something interesting about can you arc a story
in that short of time and get an audience to
care about those characters? And that was kind of the
for me. That was kind of the fun is that
as a writer and the challenge Jane too, I was like, Okay,
we have to you know, the audience has to want
to care about these two women, and I think they do.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You want to cheer them on well, and I appreciate
you noting that our motto is if you don't laugh,
sometimes you're going to cry. We might have added misery
loves company too.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Because yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I also noticed in your episodes a lot of them
occur in the bathroom, and so, I mean, I've Julie
and I have shared a lot of menopause issues together,
but never there well.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
A bathroom, a king size bed. I mean, there's a
lot of sharing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So is the is there a thought behind that or well?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
So the characters in the show are Josephine and Lauren.
I play Lauren, she plays Josephine, based loosely on our personalities.
I don't think we strayed too far, A little far
and some I don't drink as much as Lauren.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I did notice that one that made me laugh.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Have them video And there's really no rhyme or reason
to it other than we thought the sound was better
in the bathroom, which did.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And the light I mean, because we thought two women,
where would it be and we have windows there. I
know everybody doesn't have windows in their bathroom, but I do,
and I am sitting in front of a huge window.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
That's why I love so good.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
I mean our show, Yeah, we could show it, so
there's really I mean, it was just a silliness of like,
where would these two women do this? And they're not
you know, they're not producers that they don't work in
how they're are two women that want to make a video.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah. Back, and Josephine is the lawyer. Is that right? Yes?
Well I can appreciate that because being an I'm an
recovering attorney here, so watching you go through it as
a lawyer, that's that that adds an extra layer of
comedy to it because lawyers are pretty buttoned up people,
so to be going through all this is pretty hilarious
(10:49):
and that's a lot of fun to it.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I home to that.
Speaker 11 (10:52):
That.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Also, it's based on a friend of mine who is
a district attorney and she had that experience. So a
lot of our stories have come from different places. But
she is really really struggling in her job. And I
was talking to her one night over a glass of
wine and I was like, what what what do you do?
Speaker 10 (11:07):
What?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
She was Sherry, I'm you know, And so that's kind
of how that story. Of course, you know, we took
some liberties. Yeah, that's how it came to be.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, brain fog is an attorney is not a good thing.
I'll tell you. That's a rough one. Yeah, not what
your clients want to see. Then you don't even you know,
you can't pull now.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So I was reading a little bit about the National
Menopause Show.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Which you guys are going to be at. Is that correct?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Ya?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And so I feel like this is i mean, something
that every woman should know about, like because it's something
I mean tell us like it's open to anybody and everybody,
is it not?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
So so it's the National Menopause Show in Anaheim. They
had their first one in Toronto and it was made
by women for women, and I kind of reached out
to them and they reached back to me and they're like,
oh my gosh, we need comedy. You know, you just
want to see a bunch of doctors and kind of
go what's going on right, you know? And I said, well,
(12:09):
we can break the ice if you want that.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
So it's going to be on October fourth and fifth
in Anaheim at the Anaheim Convention Center.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, and did read that.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Actually, we have a code for our show. It's called
the thhe the twenty. If you put the twenty, they'll
give you a twenty percent discount till October third on it.
But I also received a letter today. This is how
great this organization is. They're like, hey, if you have
women friends that can't even afford and it is very
many at the cost. I think it's like thirty five
dollars to get in. Plus we got a twenty percent
(12:40):
of discount. But she said, if you have friends that
can't go, tell me and I'll get your pass. Oh
these ladies care.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That is great.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I love that because like some people don't feel like
they can talk about it, they can ask about it,
and if you go there, you're like, oh, me too,
me too, me too, that's happening, and so you get
all your inform and you actually feel better when you
leave there, like something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know what I'm saying. So I'm super excited.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, I absolutely love the whole thing because there's so
many things as women that we don't talk about and
share with each other. For example, when I had my children,
no one told me about sleep deprivation. I mean, you know,
when you have a baby, you're you didn't realize you're
gonna be up for a year, right, he tells you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No one says a.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Practice law with no sleep, kind of like when you're
in menopause, same sort.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Of thing exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But so it's nice that they're sharing, you know, that
they have something like that where we can share it.
And I love that they're doing with comedy too, because
some of this you just have to laugh for your Yeah,
you will cry for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And do you guys think you've hit the mark? Like right,
the timing is really really good. You've got Okay, you've
got halle Berry. Let's just talk about that. Yeah, you've
got you guys. And then we also have I mean, Midi.
You can't forget them. They're just out there promoting like
you know, all of that stuff. So and you know,
(14:01):
I was very sad they took away some of my
hormone drugs this year, but eventually we'll get those back.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I mean when you know, when.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You get diagnosed with breast cancer, that's right, Oh, that's right.
They take away some of that stuff. So, I mean
that is something that you know, I look forward to.
Hopefully one day, fingers crossed.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I can get back on track.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, welllet's couldn't get everybody together too and explore what's
I think different options are for, like supplements. I mean
you literally try everything.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And my poor husband has to sleep in fifty eight
degree whether or you know now the temperature.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Mean in your house?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, our house is like super cold.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Is that a fight in y'all's house?
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Thank god, it's not in mine. It's kind of strange.
I that's sorry. I'm not gonna but I am ready
to rip this off.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
They're fine with that, We're good with that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
My big thing, I'm not like hot all the time.
I've always been cold and that kind of stayed with me.
But trust me, I have the brain fat fog, I
have the crazy moods where my husband's probably like what
the heck all the time with me I had, you know,
it's just it's so much more the acne. I know
some of you are looking the hair loss word. There's
(15:15):
so many things, so that's not mine. So yeah, thank god,
he's not never been a hot hot hot you know,
so our temperature is pretty good.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
What about you?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No, no, no, My husband he loves that. He could
cook a steak on the bed at night. That's what
he's tells me. I could cook a steak right now
because I'm just sweating. And then I have the belly.
I have the belly thing. I've never had a belly
in my life. And I work out. I don't work out.
I tried yoga, you know, diets, and and so I
(15:47):
just named her. I call her Betty, Betty the bitch,
Betty the bitch. Yeah, well, at least you carry on.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I have to find a name.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I have been dealing with that. And my husband thinks
he's being kind about the whole. He said, you know,
you could just go get liposuction. Get that sucked right up.
And who wants to hear that you need LiPo suction?
I mean, that's not what you want to hear from
your husband.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, yeah, husband, he has a little a little extra
girl in the in the bed with him, and just
keep that way.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, that'll excite him.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That'll be like, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So you all are going to have a season two heay,
and what's that going to look?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Like, okay, well we have had a season two, so
we're on one and two and season two we just
kind of meet the family and we see how we
spread the love with menopause, right, Cherry.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Yes, well it's so we really bring in husbands in
season two. It's out right now. We bring in our children.
Jane has a daughter in it and a son, and
how it affects all of the family family, and how
it's affecting men. And they are pretty funny. I will say.
We have Tom Lennon, who is from Reno ninety one one.
(17:01):
I don't know if you've seen that, very very funny actor.
I'm very fortunate. We have Michael Dorn from Star Trek.
We have Jen Ray from In the Middle who played
the neighbor. She's on it. We were so lucky people
who have watched it and said, this is funny.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm in yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
How do the men describe it for the listeners who
haven't seen it yet, Like, what do they say, I'm
dying to know the men?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think they're I mean anybody, I'm not
even just Tom and Michael. But people who have watched
it said everybody, should you know that I opened themselves.
Everybody should be watching this because then you don't call
your wife or your partner whatever crazy you kind of go.
I have no idea, which trust me, we didn't either
(17:48):
a few years ago, did we. I mean, nobody talked
about menopause. And when Shary and I started this, we
got done shooting it at the end of September three
years ago. And I'm watching football and I saw a
hot Flash commercial and I said.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
No way.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I mean, we are so on the pulse they are
talking and so, yeah, it's just and I think they
can appreciate, I said, And I think we talked about
this before the show, but you you see how quick
those commercials come with erectile dysfunction.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, oh yeah quick.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
We got that blue pill. We don't have any blue
pill or pink anything. It's about time it's being talked about.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Absolutely, when you will were pioneers too, because you started
this a few years ago. And yeah, now we've got
Now we have Leanne Morgan and wet and this woman
Melanie here's really you know, she's just a million followers.
I think she literally said she got in her left
the grocery store, sat in her car and did this
one video crying about menopause, and it got home and
she had a million followers and there are women. They
(18:52):
they started chapters We Do Not Care Club. Well that
you are, by the way, welcome to join us in
our mom to Rage and the chapter you all are
welcome to join the Mom's Club too, because we need.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
But I think it's key, like what you were saying,
Like they I mean, people say like all saying, oh god,
she's you know I like I said, we I have
two daughters, so they're going to go through it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Girls.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
So what I'm saying is that they're like, oh my god,
she's on the crazy train again, and they snapchat each
other and talk about me all the time. But they
also when I lived in Europe in eighty seven, I
am not allowed to give blood because that's when mad
cow disease was. So now they go back and forth
from oh, she's on the menopause crazy train and she
(19:36):
has had cow disease. So it's like it's important that
we don't you know, get you know, blamed about like
being crazy all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, well the whole crazy thing is really yeah yeah, anyway,
well it is.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
It's not alone.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We have not alone. We have women, yeah that are
with us.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Some zuber moms who have a lot of questions for
our guests. So welcome zoomer moms. Welcome to the Mom's Club. Whoo,
hello ladies, thank you for joining us. And let's start
with Mary Ann. Mary Anne, can you tell us your name,
where you're from, a little bit about yourself and do
you have a question for our guests?
Speaker 12 (20:17):
I do, Sherry, I believe it was you. You did
some World War two documentary and something about Anne more Lindbergh.
So I'm wondering if if the comic part is relief
for your sit side of things that you like to do,
or do you just like both of them.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Oh, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
It's funny because that was another reason Jane and I
did this project because we've always been cast as the
serious dramatic and I love comedy and people say you're
kind of funny, showy, like you should be doing comedy.
So I think it was a good release. And I
also think that in any show. I think even in
(20:56):
a dramatic, there should be comedy because that's like, I mean,
that is how we deal with it. But that's interesting
for seeing that so history Speaks, which I loved. I
did make a World War Two documentary and a huge
amount of ammar Linberg, who's actually way ahead of all
of us having these shows. She was writing books, you know,
back when women didn't write books.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh yeah, crazy and too.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hey, Marian, tell us a little bit about yourself. Where
are you from?
Speaker 12 (21:19):
And George Freeport, Louisiana, Northwest Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay, great, well, thank you so much for joining us.
Lay yeah, Laura Lee, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell
us your name, where you're from, and a little bit
about yourself, and do you have a question for the guests.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
As Charley, thanks, it's good to be here today. It's
so nice to meet you all. I'm in East Tennessee,
just southside of Knoxville. I have two hounddogs that I
love and they smell bad. They're right here that the
(21:57):
I'm a University Tennessee fan. If you want me to
stay Rocky talk, I don't know if you're familiar.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Oh okay, now you love it, love it anyway.
Speaker 11 (22:09):
Cars football is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here, that's right.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
We've got our longhorns. You've got you know ut Knoxville.
Speaker 11 (22:15):
Yeah, yeah, all right, then go for garde my question,
and you sort of touched on it a little bit
a while ago, some of the bathroom things that come
along with you know, it really started for me a
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few years ago. But the incontinent, I mean, what the heck?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, that's a fun one, right, Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 11 (22:48):
I mean, have you guys worked that into your it's
to talk about, right, So, I don't know, if you've
done an episode, maybe I need to go watch it.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
I'd love you to see these because we do.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I remember one time Shary and I have social media too,
so sometimes i'd just be at the drug store and
It'll be the incontinence. There's you you've see now signs
for at the drug store and I'm just in that
in that area.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
So yeah, sure, you do you have anything to add
with that?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
We do if actually the end of season one, if
you watch, we do bring it up where I I
don't want to give it away, but I do have
to be somewhere, so you might want to check that out.
It's not a pleasant place, but it does happen, and
it is It's just it is a part of it.
It's part of estrogen. Again, we're not doctors. I can't,
but from all of our research and research for myself,
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that's an issue that I deal with, you know. And
you know the kegels can you do?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:43):
And estrogen and putting that back in or or gestrian
or whatever it is that you find. You know, again,
you know, the biggest thing is finding that advocate doctor
that's going to help you. You know, who's gonna who's
going to help you. I went to FOURD by the
way before I found the doctor.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So yeah, that's a really good question. We really wanted
to know how people can like what you're like. We
know these are characters and everything, but how people can
prepare better or what you think? I mean, people really,
I think need to be with a menopause specialist. I
mean you can get so lost on what you.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Need to do. Agreed or what would you say to that?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I mean I don't want to say anything against our doctors,
but most of our doctors that we've gone to have
studied so little about menopause. Now, for the past one
and a half two years, it's been like menopause heaven,
if that's what you want to call it. But now
it's a business, and now we are at the point
where we have to I think we through all the
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crap because there's going to be a lot of quick this, this, this,
and you've got to find the doctor that has studied menopause,
which I have one.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
I really think.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's why my menopause has been much better than it
could have been, because I found her early and I
thought I was so ahead of the game.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
I said, you know, I'm I'm just still ahead of
the game.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I want to get my testing done and I'm sure
I'm not going through it, and blah blah blah. I
take my test and she literally goes, I don't know
how you're functioning. You have like no estrogen, so I
don't even know. I mean, I think the next day
I've been hop flashed at it.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Whatever would have happened.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But again not We're all different and we all believe
different things.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I am taking.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Hormones and I know at one point it was the
worst thing ever.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
And I know with you Julie, yeah, is because she's you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Know, don't worry, I'm going to get them back.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm going to get them back.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But you know, I really do believe because I was
so early, well it doesn't sound like I was but
I was young when I kind of said, let's just
see what the levels are.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you really got in on that kind
of early. And this is the thing. People don't even
ask to check your levels. A lot of times people
are just throwing this, Like you said, you got to
weed out all the stuff, because people are throwing this
at you and that at you, and you're like, really,
what is.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It that I need?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's true, like if you don't have blood work and
you don't do all that. I'm also a nurse, so
I mean I talk about this stuff all the time,
and it's important to find what is going to work
for you because none of us need to be miserable
or misery loves company.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But well it's tricky too because I had a hysterectomy. Yeah, yeah,
I'm a total total And they don't really follow up
with you very well.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And yeah, you should be just fine. You had a
hysterect to me, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, that's kind of yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
And I think too, if you if you think about it,
you know, the third act of our lives, which we're
all in our approaching. You know, you're going to live
thirty years, forty years in that that third act perhaps
what is the quality of your life exactly? That's that's
the I think the primary question that I've learned all
this time. And then you can go and try and
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find your people to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, so that's the third act? Is there the final act?
What's the next thing?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Is we twist it to something else?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Friendship that I was just curious.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I think it's death Monica's I mean, this is really
and it is such a lively, great thing. I mean
what people would ask us, well, what are you going
to do after menopause?
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Well, first thing, it lasts a long time time. My
doctor says, it lasts forever. I mean, postmenopause is menopause.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
And I know some of you women may have not
been having as you know, the symptoms, or maybe you
did and now they're easier, but I promise you they
can come back, and you are in menopause throughout your life.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
So when they did ask us that, I go, well,
we're going to take this to that many years and
there's a lot of things. We just don't have to
talk about symptoms, but we can talk about kids, sleep,
and we can talk about divorce. We can talk about
changing of careers. There's so much that we women that
have been pushed under the rug. It's like we can't
produce children anymore, so.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Do away with them. And now it's like, uh, oh,
watch out here we come.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, well, Nancy, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us
a little bit about yourself, and do you have a
question for our guests.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yes, Hey, I'm Nancy Barger.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Hi, Laurlie. I'm in Knoxville, so go Big Orange. We're
right down the street. My best friend is actually an
obg y N so she can help you.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
She's a great menopause specialist.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
She took my.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Uterus out a couple of years ago.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
It's been fabulous and she says I'll go through menopause
in a couple of years and I trust her. But
I'm having the hot flashes and the incontinence and all
of that stuff. I'm a mama for I'm about to
be a grandmother for the first time. I actually host
a radio show here, so I make fun of people
all the time. And I made fun of my hysterectomy
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for a good month, which was on the air two
one hundred thousand people that all know that I've had
a hyreck to me, so trying to bring awareness of
that situation. And Leanne Morgan is a friend of mine,
so I love the fact that she's there. But one
thing I've not quite figured out yet is how do
you apologize to your husband and your kids after a
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menopause mood swing because it happens a lot and there
is only so often that you can blame it on
your zoloft or whatever else you're taking when you're like, oh,
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I mean, do you have to apologize?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I mean, let's think about if college football, like the
cable went out and something the meltdown was from him.
But no, I don't know that's a good question. I
mean it depends, Sherry.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
I don't apologize to my husband or son and they
know I'm going around crazy. Uh you know, I think
I think it's still just talking about it. I'll tell
you I finish talk about it quite a bit because
we have a show about it, and my husband's not
that kind of person. He's like, oh please, you know
I well I shouldn't. I'm going to share it. I
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won't say his name. So I had somebody going on
with my lady parts and I was like, honey, I
need you to look. I need to do something to me.
He's like, get away from me, and I'm chasing him
through the house. I didn't realize I was actually doing that,
and he's like, what is wrong with you? And I
need you to look because I think somebody's really and
he's like, wow, this is not no, no, this is
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and I realized, Wow, I'm really asking more of him.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Than he can handle.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, he's willing to give in this. He's trying to
be understanding and I think just communicating, especially you said
you have four kids. Do you have boys?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
I have foy.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Girls and two boys, and my girls get it. My
husband's like your husband. If you say the word tampon
in front of him, he will have he'll melt an
emotional and physical meltdown.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
He's never bought one.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
He doesn't want to see it, he doesn't want to
talk about it. He doesn't want to acknowledge that that's
how women have children. In the delivery room, he stayed
at the north pole the entire time. And so I think,
like when the mood swings kind of come around, he
is a man will never understand what we're going through.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And I think it's frustrating for him because.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
He doesn't get it, and so then you know, sometimes
him and the boys just kind of snap and I'm like,
m yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Think you can sign him up for a class.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I think, like what, yeah, an educational.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I think to you said you had a best friend
that you cut your uterus, Well, that's that's there's a
statement right there.
Speaker 10 (31:37):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
You know, I think for Jane and I having that
best friend sometimes that's going to be that's the best medicine,
is that they're going to understand, even past your your
family and everyone, what you're going through. You just call
him and say, hey, my husband's like really winky right now,
he is not getting what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
I've actually had her call him, Yeah, what's.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Can I meet her number?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
She's ther whole hand in her who who and starts
asking you questions.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
About that's a little weird, but you know, you.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Know, I'd all jokes aside too.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I just think open communication is the best, and it
is so humbling. It is so humbling to be like
that and treat somebody who loves me like he does,
and my daughter entreat him like that, So I really
know what you.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Mean and then you have to apologize, but I think
you do. And just open communication, you know, because.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's it's just we are we're laughing and we're funny
and we're laughing.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
But you know what, it's so vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
We are losing so much of what we worked hard
to get, whether that was as we worked out or
did that or had beautiful hair, and it's it's just
and even people paying attention to us.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Remember when you go on the street, you'd always get.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Hellos, and then all of a sudden you don't get
even the door open.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Wow, I don't go to the bank anymore. But it's different.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
It's different, and until maybe you get really old and
then may be somebody else. But yeah, just that open
communication and if you have those people there that are
there to and you can.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Let your guard down.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, I think that's really key to being very vulnerable.
And you said something in the beginning, Jane about the
clumps of hair. Okay, so we've had this huge argument
in my house. I used to be married. I'm not
in ler, but that was a huge thing and I
was like, do you think this is great for me
that I am losing by them, and then of course
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we all stick it on the wall to get it
at the end of the shower. I mean, this is
a thing, you know what I mean, maybe I forgot
a few times and so you have a couple clumps
of hair there. But this is really not easy for
us to do either. So you're right about the communication.
If you're just like open about it, it kind of
takes the elephant out of the room, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, I would think so, Jane. You also mentioned something
about how you how you looked at differently, and I
did I read quicktly. Were you the homecoming queen at
Oil City High School?
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Though I'm a lawyer by train.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We're going to show a picture in a minute, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But I mean, how does it feel like that the
homecoming queen also goes through menopause? You know, everybody goes
through menopause eventually, you know, if you're live long enough,
you're lucky enough, that's what happens. Right, So it is
a different you know, we all we all experience it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And yeah, aging is an honor, as I tell the girl.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But I also love to something that Nancy talked about
that's why we have the Mom's Club. That's why we're friends,
you know what. We can talk to our husbands and
there and try to help them understand what we're going through.
But that's why we have these close friendships with other women.
Women are great about having friendships and being tight. And
(35:00):
like when when you're feeling like crying or you're you
got acne and what are you going to do? And
I called Julie. Yeah, she'll make me feel so much better.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You call me anyway, because you're a hypochondriac and I'm
a nurse, so you're.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Like, yeah, I didn't even need menopause to have a
lot of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I just it was. It was already there.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
No anyway, So how did you guys handle like the
casting for this show? I'm dying to know, Like, you know,
did you have a ton of people or tell me
a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Sounds like you had some good volunteers who liked you,
But did you have to castro cast a wider net
or how did you.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, it's it was so wonderful to be able to
cast people of our age.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Because of our age, you're not getting cast as much, right,
So that was a wonderful thing.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
And we used, of course, all our friends, and then
when we didn't have to, we just went into casting
and it was great, and you know, of course we
wanted to get some names. And you know, it's funny
if you have enough connections out here. We do live
in La yes, so you just come across these actors.
Michael Doran happens to be one of my best friends.
(36:06):
And Tom Lennon. Actually our children.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Went to preschool together. So let me tell you a
great story about Tom Lennon. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I didn't talk to him for years. And Sherry and
I are going through I think Tom Cruise will do it.
How about wrapping it? So we're going through this and
I said, you know what I know Tom Lennon.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
She goes, what you know? Tom Lennon.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
If you ladies don't know me, was on something called
Reno nine to one one and he was a cop
that wore way.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Too short shorts.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
He's just a funny guy. So anyway, I give him
a text. I said, Hey, this is Jane, and I said,
we have this. I you know I'm thinking about I'd
love you to play that my best friend's husband, And
I knew this dude did not watch this and within
three minutes, right Erry, he wrote me back and said,
I'm in.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
So it's just amazing friends and people.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
In season two. One of the extraordinary things when you
watch that season and we are writing season three right now,
yes we're in pre production. It was amazing to how
we had women the age of fourteen to ninety telling
the story. And there's something magical about that that we
didn't realize. We didn't. I don't know that we did
that on purpose. It would just happened to be the
(37:21):
episodes we wrote. And I went, oh, my goodness, like,
look at all these different generations of women telling the
story and being funny and sincere and vulnerable all those things,
and that was an amazing part of the casting too.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I think I'm glad you explained that.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I read that the fourteen to ninety I was like,
where are we with the fourteen year old part? But
I get what you're saying now, So I'm glad we
touched base on that.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Do you each have a favorite episode?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I do, and it's so funny because it's not a
funny one. But I'm going to probably break a little something.
But because if I would love you to see it
and how it progresses. But there's this one where I
get so angry her and she stands me up and
I'm waiting for her to go to another another wonderful
guru session or something. And then the next episode we
(38:10):
see what we were angry. We're in a fight, definitely,
we see each other. We run into each other in
a drug store and we find out I guess I
don't have to tell you. We find out what is wrong,
but it is. It is uh something that happens sometimes
because of menopause, whatever, a result, whatever. And she opens
(38:31):
up in a drug store and it's it's very touching
and I absolutely adore that episode, but it's probably nothing.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Not like if we started watching three together.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
That's not an episode I'd show you until you know
the characters and you care about them.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
And you go, whoa, yeah that's mine. And it's called surprise.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Okay, gosh, there's so many I mean, I love I
want to give away things too, you know, just to
be fun and be silly. It was really I guess
it was the research of it too. It was really
fun to do the episode about smoking pot, so we
thought we'd try it that'll cure it. Good, because that's
the thing to women, am I right? You are you
(39:10):
just don't know what to do. You will try anything
at some point. Right. So somebody had said, oh, you
know if you use you know, herb, little herb, And
I said, well, I haven't done that since I don't
even know when. Let's okay, let's do it. Let's try it.
And so that whole kind of that experiment. And you know,
I have a son who's twenty three, and so I
had to get this vape thing and I'm asking him,
I don't even know how this thing works. I mean,
I thought you, I thought you lit it. I thought
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you lit the vape thing. I didn't know, you know,
I just hit a ball with my son. It was
actually a bonding moment for my son because he was like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Mom?
Speaker 6 (39:39):
I said, I need you to show me just enough
of this, but I don't know how to use it.
And uh. And so that one was a lot of fun.
And that one actually the first day I had forty
thousand views.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Oh oh my gosh, that was our biggest.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
It was so weird. I was like, why why? And
I think because we were so women, our age trying
to you know, I was trying to score some pot,
you know, the car, and I was talking about all
the Navy. I don't know if you guys have been
to one of those stores. It is fascinating. I did
research it and I went. I was like, oh my god,
it's like a candy store here there.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Highly educated, highly educational by far, I mean the first
definitely it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Now, Okay, well this is so much fun. So where
can our our audience find your show? And where do
we find you? On social media?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Okay, so we're always at the third act and the
is t HPE the third Act, which I love. On YouTube,
you can go there also on fire TV. Our first
two seasons are streaming and then season three will be
coming out. So on YouTube it's at the third act.
Social media is the same, so you can see us
on Instagram. Big One coming up fourth and fifth of October.
(40:49):
We'll be at the Anaheim Convention Center for the National
Metopause Show, which will be fun and we're hoping to
parlay that. I hope put this out there, ladies. I
have a theory, Jane, you want to where I think
this show is going to live.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Next I hope you say Austin, Texas.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
You know when you go to the doctor's office and
you have to sit and wait, well, you know because
your nurse and you're watching those TVs and they're showing
you how to make like beat juice because you're bm
I and measured. Wouldn't it be great if you're going
to really talk about women if you're in watching our
show before you.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I mean, that would be great.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
That would be just relaxes you.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
You're opened up and you go, I can talk about
cracks wherever they're happening because those women did it, because.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
They did it out on the lobby. So and now
I'm gonna Yeah. I don't know if doctors would love
that because you're like in there an hour and a half,
like you're like, hey, I's.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Out here and they mentioned it and so you know
that's great. I think that's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that really is. Well, thank you so much for
joining us. This has been so.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Much being open and talking about it all blood.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, like I said, this is the menopause moment.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So now I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Absolutely, well and.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
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Speaker 2 (42:34):
To It's one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, it's made us, It's made us.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
We're still friends.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
So we're still friends because we have to share a
room when we're here in Los Angeles because some people
are cheap. That would be me actually, so I'm talking
about myself.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I apologize anyway, lunch today, I know, yeah, I will
do that.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And also we have some exciting things to announce. We're
gonna have a big new sponsor coming on board that
tease ladies, just just wait for it. Pretty soon. We're
gonna have some really amazing, as we say here in
the Mom's sponsor coming on board. And we're also gonna
ask you to join us across the country at our
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live events. We've been doing these across the country and
we're now thrilled to report that we'll be live in Nashville, Atlanta,
North Dallas, and Shreveport soon, so check the Inside the
Mom's Club website for local event dates. This is gonna
be fun free and I think that we should have
a menopause speaker. I think we m that will be perfect.
(43:39):
There'll be limited tickets available, so you'll be able to
secure your ticket to at Inside the Moms Club dot com.
So definitely please join us for that. Well, Julie, this
always goes by way too fast.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
It did, and I'm really glad I didn't mention as
a nurse, I didn't really go down the road of
everything about menopause.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I behave I on my best.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Beha. I'm glad, but I'm sure we'll talk about it
later because I have some questions. Oh great, Yeah, No,
it's always it just goes by so fast.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
It goes by fast. This is an incredibly important topic.
And I can tell you that, ladies, you're in the
hot spot. And I mean I don't mean that you know,
no pun intended, but what I'm saying is like, yeah,
take it, take those jackets off.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
So anyway, I think that this is key and that
women like you said it lasts a really long time,
and we should not be miserable and suffering and bounce
ideas off each other. Open up, take the elephant out
of the room, and it's all good.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Mom's unite. Yeah, we are together on this. Well, we
will be back next time with celebrities and extraordinary women.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Just thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
We know all your me time is precious and valuable.
Thanks mom for sharing it with us. Remember our Mom's
club model. If you don't laugh, sometimes.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
You are going to cry.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
So keep laughing. Moms. We'll see you next time inside
the Mom's Club.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Yesh Hi
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