June 2, 2025 • 44 mins
Ever wonder how to turn a good idea into a great business that actually makes a difference? Patty West of GoodKarmal shares her story, her insights, and a few mom-approved tips for juggling it all. It's an episode full of humor, honesty, and a whole lot of karma.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Welcome to inside the Mom's Club. I am your host,
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You look amazing, or as we say amazing, I mean,
my gosh, you look twenty years younger.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
Wow, Wow, so improb. You know what I thought it was.
I thought it was that new calumn that we use
and U c A l M. It's a great product
that app that we use to sleep better. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:22):
You you look you look fabulous.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Now I'm kind of embarrassed and I feel kind of old.
My gosh, no, you know what I'm actually yeah, you're
not Julie, right, You're not Julie. No, you just look
like Julie because you're Julie's daughter, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Right, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I okay, yeah, well, thank you, well, thank you for
coming today and helping this out here. So, so where
is your lovely mother? Because she was here yesterday? So
what she just she's what's she doing?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
My mom went back to Texas?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
She did?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, yeah, because your sister's graduating from high school, yes
she is. Well, that is exciting. So she's very busy,
and you're very busy. Right, you're you're here living in La.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm adulting, you're adulting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
How's that going going?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well? I really I really love living.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Looks good in January?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You do?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay? Well, good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I love the sun.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I love the sun too. I wish it was out
here we've been since we've been in La. I brought
the clouds in the rain, I guess.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But and it's looking a little more like Seattle, yeah
reason days.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, but but it's still fun. Well, I'm so glad.
I'm thrilled that you could join us and sub in
today evening. Well, thank you. Yeah, this is gonna be
fun because we are gonna have a fun, fun show today.
You know why, because it's super fun. I mean, I
love this. I love what we're talking about today because
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I love Carmel. So let me ask you a question.
What if something as simple as a piece of caramel
could shift your whole mood or even your whole day?
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I personally, I would like to Well, Okay, I think
we know someone.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Let's go for it. Yes, because today's guest believes that
it can. She's a former Hollywood executive and she turned
entrepreneur founder of Good Carmel. She's the mom of two daughters,
and her company is based in Bozeman, Montana. Please welcome
Patty West. Welcome to the Mom's Called Patty.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This is so I mean, it's just as we say
here in the Mom's Club. This is amazing the whole story.
So can you take us through from your concept to
the kitchen? How did this? How did Good Carmel start?
Tell us the story?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Okay, it's a little long. I'll try to shorten it
as much as I can. I was dating this really
outdoorsy guy, and he got me into hiking, and he
brought a ziploc bag of carmel that had bought his
boss had made, and I thought, wait, you could I
just made karmel on this stove. I mean, I wasn't
(04:02):
a cook or a chef or anything like that, but
I thought that sounds kind of cool. I think I
want to do it. So I played around and I
got my mom's old cookbooks like Betty Croper and Good Housekeeping,
and I tried a bunch of different recipes and I
came up with some caramel that I loved, and I
thought this would make a really cool, like Christmas gift
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for all the people I worked with, friends and family.
And then I got to thinking, like what if I
tried to make it more meaningful, Like how could I
add some meaning into it? And I decided to go
to my collection of inspirational quotes. I always was collecting
quotes and writing them down on everything, and I had
a friend helped me figure out.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
How to create a logo and it was a little Buddha.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
And I wrapped each caramel with quotes and got some
packaging and gave it to friends, and literally the next
day everyone's like you need to quit your job at
Corner Brothers and start this business.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
This is a product.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Wow. You know I always think things happen like it's
this was meant to because you picked You picked caramel,
Like if you had chosen chocolate, it wouldn't have worked together,
you know, like because it's karma with an L at
the end, and then you're bringing in good karma and
with as part of your product, you're right providing.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And my brother's really punny, he's a bit of a
wordster jokester, and he I was talking about bringing some
caramel to go visit my nana and he's like, that'd
be good carmel.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm like, oh, there you go.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Like that's it. Like all these little pieces just were sort.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Of floating around in my head and it just all
really came together. It was a total like Oprah aha moment.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, and speaking of Oprah, so you were discovered by
and then you know what, some of our other guests
we've had on the show, including one I'll mention a
little bit later, they started by Oprah discovering their product.
So that's what happened with Good Caramels. I understand. So
you were part of Oprah's Favorite Things. How did that happen?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah, So, while I was still working in Hollywood my
regular job, I was, you know, starting to create the
business at night, and a friend of mine had given
a sample to another person who worked on a blog
called Daily Candy, and we got in that blog and
like as soon as they said, you're going to be
in this blog.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So I built a website really.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Fast, and someone from Harpo Films, Oprah's film production company,
saw that blog and bought some and sent it to
Chicago for them to try it out.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So it really just happened really organically.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Wow, you know, I've so this is the second story
where something like that has happened. I don't know that
we're going to suggest that all the moms out there
that start making things and sending it over to Harpo
or to Oprah, you're going to be in the Favorite Things.
But that is a very cool story.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah. So we're way too small to handle that level
of exposure.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Six months in, I can imagine, we had to shut down.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
The show aired like November twenty fifth, you know, it
was her holiday things, and the next we had to
shut down our website for the rest of the year
and just frantically try to fulfill all those orders.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, well that's a good problem to have, I guess
as it could be. Yeah, no, that is great. So
you what, so tell us a little about your career
in Hollywood. So what did you like? I want to
call it give up because you didn't. You're into something
really amazing. But what were you doing before you were
doing this?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I was a publicist for television shows, so not specifically
the actors, but the entire show. So I worked with
like twentieth Century Fox, worked on the studio side. They
would hire us, and then ultimately I ended up working
at Corner Brothers TV Network the WB.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
So we would handle publicity for all the.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Shows sorry as they would launch, we would get talk
shows for the actors. We would you know, book the
actors on talk shows or you know, pitch a magazine
feature and we would handle.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
All of that. So it was a lot of travel,
very glamorous.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
I worked with some wonderful, wonderful people like Sarah Michelle
Geller on Buffy, and Carrie Russell on Felicity, Christine Baranski
on Sybil, just really iconic women.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
It was a great, great job.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
HM. So what did it feel like? What prompted you
then to make this change? Because when you have a
successful career like that, I mean, I imagine if I
shared that career story with a lot of people, they'd
be like, well, she stayed in and of course that's
glamorous and wonderful. What was in you that you decided,
you know what, I think I'm going to make this
kind of risky at time. I mean, because being an
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entrepreneur is a risky endeavor. What made you make that decision?
You know?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
When I went to college, I did an undergraduate business
program at the University of Virginia, and so I knew
a little bit about all of it. I'd marketing it, accounting, finance.
You know, I felt like I had more to give
than what I was doing in my job.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I had more that I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
It just seemed like I had more creativity and more
ideas than what was being captured in that job.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And so now you did did you immediately? You're in
both You're in Montana now, so yeah, when was when
did that happen? Because the company's based there? Correct?
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Yeah, so yeah, after Oprah, I mean, we you know,
slept for like a week after that rush, and then
I hired someone to I'm like, find me someone who
can manufacture this for us.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'll go anywhere. I didn't have kids. I just had
a boyfriend. We weren't even married yet.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
And she brought us this article of a woman in Bozeman,
Montana who had started a caramel company. She bought all
this equipment. Didn't have a ton of sales. I had
a ton of sales, no equipment. So she took us on.
So they manufacture you know, our caramel for us, along
with theirs as well, and so we moved to Bozeman, Montana.
(09:57):
For that partnership. Were two separate companies. But it it's
been amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh that's great. Well, Montana's beautiful. But when I when
I think of Bozeman, I always think of that Big
Bang Theory episode where Sheldon's trying to get away from
Pasadena to go somewhere safe and he ends up in Bozeman.
And so you know, I'm never been there, but I mean,
I know that Montana's gorgeous. Well that had to be that.
It'd be quite a change from Los Angeles to go
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to Bozeman, Montana. What was that like?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
It was it was a really big change. Bozeman's nice
in that it's a university town, so there are people
from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh yeah, there is a lot.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
There are a lot of urban transplants who have ended
up here. But I mean it, there's snow. I'm looking
at my window at snow. It snowed yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh wow. Well it's a little chili here. You're not
missing as far as you're not. The warm weather is
not not here today.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's a little colder in Montana.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
But what's been neat?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
You know, when I moved here, I wasn't thinking about family,
and it's been an amazing place to raise kids. My
girls are super outdoorsy and really grounded, and it's been
a great experience.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So do your daughters. I know, in some of the
mom preneur sort of things that we talk about on
this show, they include their kids. I mean sometimes right
down to you know, packaging the item and shipping it,
and like, have you integrated your kids or are they
involved in all in it? Or how does that work.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
They're both super busy with their own things, but certainly
around Christmas time I rope them in and that's exactly
what they're doing. They are packaging, they are shipping.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Absolutely, I feel like this.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
To me, this would be a very fun. Well, first
of all, I think it's great. When I started to
do this get ready for this interview, I thought, well,
there's that old tomato versus tomato thing, like people say
caramel or caramel, but in your case, you would have
to say caramel every time because and there's no.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Correct Now I'm not consistent, it's true, I do say carara.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh really, okay, I think both Well, it works for
this for sure, But to me, you have like it.
It seems like a fun. If I had a product
like this, didn't it be able to come up with
inspirational quotes or like fun? How do you do that?
And that that has to be fun? How do you
choose what it's going to go in the product as
far as the quotes, because that's a big part of
what you're it's what you're selling it is.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And there are also there are a lot of fake
quotes out there. You know, we'll find a quote that's
amazing and you look it up and it's like this,
this person never said this quote. But my criteria is
it has to be positive and about either being good
to yourself, being good to others, being good to the earth.
So that's that's really my that's how I try to
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live my life.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And you're very and you're also really into sustainability. I
mean your company is trying to be positive all the
way around in terms of how you conduct the company.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, I mean it's called good Kramel. Yeah, like if
we are what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, that's true. If you were polluting everywhere, that would
probably be bad caramelsthing. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's great. Well,
we actually have some samples here that you were kind
enough to provide, and I mean there's they've got, Like,
I'm going to keep this one because everyone knows I'm
the best dog mom ever, so I cannot wait to
uh to read what it's in here. Oh when it's
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also gluten free and so that's great. So even my
son who's got a gluten intolerant best cat mom, it's
you are okay good, that's yeah. I Cats kind of
take care of themselves though, don't they. I mean or
I don't know, like I always feel like a cat
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a mom. Everybody needs a mom, that's true.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
They make their emotions heard. Oh okay, they feel things
pretty deeply.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
They do.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They're very opinionad.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Your mom is a badass mama, so that's pretty perfect
for her.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But Monica, I think you need this one.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
This one is you are brilliant and kind and super hot.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So No, that does not say super salt super hot.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh, stupid hot, so hot. I can't read. That's my problem.
Oh yes, stupid hot. Well that works too.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's illiterate and stupid hot.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, that just makes me stupid, right, I can't read.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I'm stupid hot.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm stupid hot and stupid. No, that would not be
good caramel to tell me I'm stupid.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I mean, well, I want good car stupid hot.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean that I'm whatever. You're super hot, super cool.
I love this, and I'm sure it's delicious too. So
does it come in I see sea salt caramel? Does
it come in different flavors of caramel?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Or yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
We do vanilla sea salt and chocolate sea salt in
all of the boxes.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Oh it's your favorite sea salt.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay, Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Whenever, whenever I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Like walking through the office and I think I better
do a quick quality check, I'm always grabbing this.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think that sounds like a perfect plan.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, I think I'd have a serious problem working in
it's like a sweet business like that, because I would
want to be quality testing a little bit too much.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I'm working in retail right now and I can barely
get through the day without buying something, so I this
would be a big challenge.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, this would be super tempting for me. And that's
for sure because I love caramel.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
So we're doing when we hire like that's one of
the biggest perks is literally all the caramel you can eat,
like take it home.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
We have a ton of scraps or like.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Misshapen ones, and people are just like leaving home with
like huge bags.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Oh wow, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I have a friend who works at a gym and
complains about not being able to have a gym membership
at the gym they work at. I'm gonna tell them
to quit and work for good Karmo, because then they
won't have to worry about the gym.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They can just eat caramel.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Mm hmm. No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, then she did, and they'll send them Bozeman.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Moved them up to Bozeman. Yeah, I think they'd they
would love it. It's gorgeous up there for one night
for what I understand. So what is your favorite quote, like,
what inspires you? If you got if what quote would
you want in your box of caramels?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Have a few.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
The one that I love is help your brothers boat
across and your own will reach the shore. That's not
like a Hindu proverb, but you know, when you help
someone out, you're not inconveniencing yourself. You're actually getting yourself
something too, you know, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Plato.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
There's a Plato quote that I like. It's be kind Forever.
I think it's everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
So I'm terrify.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
But you know, every single person you encounter has such
a backstory that you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Know, right.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Yeah, And I think it's another one that I really
like is if you're facing in the right direction, all
we have to do is keep walking.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
If your intention is pointed right, each day you're moving
it forward.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I love. I love the positivity of it. Now
for our moms out there who are trying to start
their own businesses, business is business sometimes, do you ever
find there's a tension between the business side of it
and your desire to keep it positive and sweet and great.
(17:21):
I mean, do you feel any of that? How do
you deal with that? How do you handle that part
of it?
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I say no to a lot of things, like there's
so much that would have grown our business that I
just declined throughout the years. You know, I shut down
for three months each time I had a baby, just
shut it down, wow, and came back and hoped that
customers came back.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
We chose to don't. We don't sell to stores.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
You can only buy it on our website, which you know,
we could be much much bigger, but less profitable and less.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Time with my babies.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Yeah and so so yeah, I mean I held I've
hold I've held it back a ton.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well that's great.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's really admirable.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I think people will get lost.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
And pick them up from school and go to the plays.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I got to do all this stuff while also having
this great business.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
That is great.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
They appreciate that more than you know. Also having a
parent that's there to go to those events.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, that is true. That's why I retired from law
there for a while, so I could spend time with
my kids, so that I could become the team mom
of my son's baseball team and then become a little
much for that. But I but I was there for him.
Hope you knew that. No, that's really cool. Do you
do that with all your employees too? Like do they
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have a pretty generous liberal policy as far as like
if they have a baby or how does that work?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I mean, I'm not a huge company, so I can't
provide all those huge benefits that large companies.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, but yeah, we say that.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
You know, we want there, you know, your job to
fit your lifestyle. So we work as much as we can.
If you want to work from six am to noon, great,
if you want to work from noon to six great.
You know, we want to try and make it work.
And yes, we have a lot of people who have
to leave for kids stuff, And I'm thumbs up on
that big time.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you know it's interesting you said, you know, you
could be a lot bigger and if you were at
the mindset you know, I'm going to grow and be
this amazing. You know, I'm gonna be bought by private
equity or once you could do that, But you're super
successful with keeping it within your own values. I mean,
like you just you've been on the Today Show You've
been featured in Forbes, You're everywhere, and yet you've stayed
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true to your mission and your values and you're being
rewarded for that. If you know, that kind of attention
is like the reward. But I think that's a lesson
for all those moms out there who want to start
their own company. You don't have to, you know, stick
to your values. What you're trying to do, and you'll
be You'll be rewarded in so many ways, is not
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just financially. So that's what's so cool about what you're doing. Well,
what's the next step for good Karmel? What do you
want any thing in the future here that you've got
planned that we'd love to know about?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Great question, you know, No, we're just going to We
just keep growing every year, and you know all those
boxes you showed, that's what we're really enjoying is all
those different designs, seeing why people are ordering and what
they're sending, what their gift messages are, and then creating
new boxes based on you know, what people are looking for.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's been really fun.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, because didn't you start out where people were like,
do people like if I've said I want to send
something to all of my my Zoomer moms out there
who've been so wonderful to us and been a big
part of the show. Do I give you suggestions for Hey,
I want you to send this message? Or yeah, is
that how that you can custom order?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Like half of our business is custom orders. So we
were with brands like Nike and Microsoft and Evada and
you know, huge great brands and they'll create their own
box label or we'll create it with them and then
they can pick you know where we have quotes wrapped
around the caramels. They can put corporate messaging like Amex
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puts their their brand message. But like right now, we're
printing something today for a funeral, for a you know,
a service.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
We've got the photo of the.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Person and people will put quotes from their loved one
who has passed, like funny quotes. Like people make it
so creative. It's so fun to see what people do.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Oh wow, I feel like there's so much opportunity in
making custom orders, and I think it's really cool that
you guys are able to do that. It's a way
to expand the good karma exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, I love that, and you know me, I'm such
a shopper. You're You're probably gonna hear a lot from me, actually,
because now I'm going to custom order everything all my
all my friends are gonna like the Mom's Club, our
own little group of friends. Absolutely don't don't tell your mom,
but yeah, I can do a custom order to the
friends we call our we call ourselves the Disney Moms.
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Is kind of a long story, but yeah, something like that,
that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Or weddings a wedding.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We do a ton of weddings. Great, we have We
have a mom who.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Just ordered some boxes for her daughter celebration just graduated
from med school. And on the wrappers, instead of where
we put you know, good karma, she put its doctor.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Actually, I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That is cute. Well, and I know I noticed how
you asked that question. Georgia, you do weddings great. Do
you have anything didn't tell your mother? No? No, no, A
very serious boyfriend by the wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, I thought we come into my cousin's weddings this year.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I thought we could make an announcement here on the
mom's while your mom wasn't wasn't here.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
She'd kill me if I made without her. But that's
the number one problem.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But I tell you what if you if that happens,
then I think.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Then I'm getting to myself some good custom Karmel.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You should.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I also, I think that it's I love that you've
made this because something about I mean witty jokes that
women make to each other and like that. It's doctor
actually like that kind of stuff. That you're combining it
with a suite. It makes for a really unique experience,
and I just think that's so cool that you can
(23:33):
share that. I think it's a feminist humor some of it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, what's the most interesting request you've ever got? When
you're like, wow, where did that one come from? But
that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I think the I think the best one was honestly
for a celebration of life, where they put the funniest things,
like the funny things this man has said in his life,
and they were racy, like they were Oh, it was
really funny. I pictured all the family members opening these
and cracking up.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's good. Yeah, that is because that that is a
very positive thing and a various kind of stressful situation.
I'm gonna make a note of that too, because my husband,
he already wrote his entire We went to the computer
one day and my kids went to the printer and
they looked on it and my husband had written his
own funeral out because I guess he doesn't trust us
(24:26):
to do a really good job with it. So we're
just gonna surprise. Yeah, we're gonna surprise him with him
and it was Carmel. Yeah, we're gonna add and tell
him we're gonna do that. I think that would be
very cool. Well, this is so interesting and I can
already promise you you've got you just whatever happens with
the rest of the show, I promise you've got a
really good customer. That would be me. You're gonna be
(24:47):
very happy that you were on this.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Show because I order lots of stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But we have some other women who also are interested,
and those are our zoomer moms. Welcome zoomer moms, Welcome
to them. Hell, well, this is so much fun. And
I have to say to all you zoomer moms, the
ones that are here, We're so thrilled that you're here.
(25:12):
And I just want to share with our moms out there.
If you have friends or you want to be a
zoomer mom, you just have to get in touch with us,
and you can also be a zoomer mom on the show.
Very rewarding, as you will find out. So let's welcome
our zoomer moms First. Shannon, Welcome to the Mom's Club.
Tell us your name, where you're from, and a little
bit about yourself. Hi.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
I'm Shannon Summers.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
I'm from Dallas, Texas, and I've got two boys, one
in college and one about to be in college this fall,
so soon to be an empty nester. I'm not quite
sure how i feel about that yet, but day by
day I'll take it. And I'm a fractional CMO right
(25:54):
here in Dallas. And Patty, I love that you've talked
about Good Carmel because I have to say I've been
a customer. I've ordered in bulk for clients before and
know how one delicious they are and to what a
big hit they were with my clients. So it's been
really fun to learn about your business. And I had
(26:16):
a question for you. As I've been building my own
fractional business. One of the things that is challenging is
kind of juggling time and knowing where should you spend
your time to get the biggest output for your business.
So I'd love to know your thoughts on kind of
I guess it's the juggling at all question.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That's a great question. Well, I'm so psyched to hear
you're a customer. That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I'm in the same boat, by the way, one in college,
one about to go to college.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Oh, it's terrifying, isn't it awful?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yes, I just I'm taking a watercolor class. I'm trying
to come how I'm going to fill all of it in.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, that that to do list is so serious, right,
trying to figure out what to do because there is
an unending of never ending really important things to do. Definitely,
I delegate as much as I can. I work with
my husband, my brother, and a lot of great staff members,
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so I do.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I am always looking for something.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
That they could grow with, Like if there's a problem
that they could solve and also learn a new skill
so that the next top time that problem came up
they could do it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I'm always looking for that.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I try to really spend my time on things that
require me. I am the only one who could do this,
and that of course requires some humility, so that I
don't think that all of it requires me that's really hard.
And yeah, anything that is super impactful. I try, even
(27:56):
though those are the hardest things and so I want
to procrastinate them.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I try to tackle them.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Anything with a huge deadline, Am I about to miss
a deal because I've waited too long? So time sensitive
and impactful, where like this is going to move my
business forward if I tackle this. Those are the things
I really try to focus on. But you can't do
all of that every day. So then I also try
to give myself little wins, but just eat. Okay, I
can move this forward and it'll be really easy, and
(28:22):
I feel great about myself.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That's great.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
That's really helpful.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Thank you, Yeah, yeah, you bet.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Thanks Brittany, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us your name,
where you're from, and a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Yes, thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
My name's Brittany Washington, And just like Shannon, I am
here from Dallas, Texas a transplant though all the way
from San Diego, California, so yes, a little bit of.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Cali and me. But yes, nice to meet you, Patty.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
I am actually have not tried good caramel, but I'm
going too soon. But yes, I'm actually in marketing, just
like like Shannon. And one thing, I'm actually in a PR,
PR and marketing, and I have clients who are mothers
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and I do marketing and a lot of them are mothers,
and they do juggle a lot in between trying to
balance that lifestyle in PR and living that lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
And I have a question for you when.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
It comes to being in the public eye and trying
to be a mother and the things that they are
trying to articulate.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
How do you try to balance.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
I want to say, being in social media and living
the lifestyle of trying to just be you and using
what's that word we try.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
To say in social media? Balancing just living that just
trying to be you?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
What's that word we use, Shannon, in social media living.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
The authenticity lifestyle?
Speaker 8 (30:19):
Thank you, the authenticity lifestyle because a lot of them
try to ask me how to be living that authenticity lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
But being a mom but trying not.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
To use vulgar lifestyle vulgar words, but trying to be
a mom too.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
How do you balance that lifestyle?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I'm pretty vulgar.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, I think that I think about the people on
social media that I really connect with YEA are so
flawed and raw and vulnerable. And I think trying to
be perfect in any aspect, and I speak from experience,
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is painful and doesn't move anything forward. You're stuck. You
can't move if you're going to be perfect. So I
think I would advise clients to really like find your
vulnerability and share it.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I think it's the imposter syndrome too, is also too
where I was trying to get at that imposter syndrome
trying to be someone else, but also to trying to
balance that lifestyle of being a mom.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah. I mean, man, my kids are seventeen and nineteen,
so I'm over a lot of hurdles.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
And I really thought I was doing all the things
I was supposed to do and I was doing everything right.
And I look back now and I'm like, man, we
should have had a lot more fun and I should
have worried less about the schedule rules and the carpools
and what are they wearing?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
What is their hair like?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
And if I had had an influencer helping me see
that earlier, I think that would have been amazing. I mean,
that's what I would look for, is like, yes, we're
all impostors.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
M h, yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, that was a great question because yeah, there's also
I guess a challenge of your company is all about
positivity and good karma. And but if everybody saw you
that like, oh, she's really not you know you do
you feel like you when you said you're a little vulgar?
I mean you feel like sometimes you have to project
some kind of image of good karma or good karma.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know, I don't.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I really let the product lead for itself. I am
not out here unlike today, I am not usually out
here as a spokesperson. It's not my comfort zone. I
am doing this just for a friend. She pushed me
to do it, and I'm thrilled that I'm doing it,
But no, I feel like I am pretty anonymous mostly
(33:02):
in my life.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, we're thrilled that you were able to do it too,
and yet I've seen you on the Today Show, so
you've been a good spokesman for you are a good
spokesman for it, And I just also want to comment
just personally. I'm still often that we have a lot
of zoomers from Dallas, and I'm from Dallas, so you know,
good job, ladies, I'm so thrilled that you're here. Yeah,
(33:25):
because I'm actually from well, from Plano, but you know,
when you're from Plano, you say you're from Dallas. That's
kind of how it works there. Kim, welcome to the
Mom's Club. What's tell us your name, where you're from,
and do you have a question.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, So my name's Kim.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
This is Leila. We used to I used to live
in LA and I moved to Trinidad, California. It's like
population three hundred and eleven people in northern California. So yes,
we're kind of in the middle of nowhere. But I'm
very inspired by what you were saying, just as mom
that's also trying to start a business and just so
(34:03):
that I can be with my kids more so. I
guess my question would be what point in your children's
life did you start the business and how have you
created those partnerships with big brands.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Good question.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
So I started it before I was married and before
I had kids, so I had all those late night
hours I was free to I mean, I burnt every
midnight oil I could that we it was crazy, And
once the babies came, I slowed down for sure and
(34:38):
got help and so, yeah, I understand that just the
brain drain and the energy drain when you have little ones,
it's really hard to get something off the ground.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
You definitely want to go easy on yourself.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
And the partnership with the brands came, I would say,
from the great press that we got when we started out,
so they would see us, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
In a in style magazine, and then they would reach
out to us.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
But we also do a lot of work on LinkedIn,
trying to get out to other people in companies, you know,
just a lot of posting, a lot of sharing of
successes and things like that.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, okay, thank you for that good network. Yeah, sure,
I you know, I just it just dawned on me,
like how you started. So you've got a recipe and
I've asked ask you this question, is I'm the world's
worst cook? I mean, if I'd gotten that recipe and
mixed it, nobody would be buying caramel from me. I'm guarantee.
You like so, but you're you're saying, you're not, like,
(35:40):
how did you do that? You just by luck it
turned out great and you that was how it worked?
Or what did you do?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Kind of I mean, I really I was not a cook.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I was a latchkey kid. I never saw my mom
cooking a meal. She'll kill me for that, but it's true.
But to me, when I read that caramel recipe, it
almost felt more like a chemistry lab versus.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
You'll know when the brisket's done. I don't. I can't
tell when meat is done. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
This was this had a thermometer like, this was math,
and I felt like, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Can do that. I can do math and chemistry. So yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
So for me, somehow that felt totally doable when you
know cooking.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Doesn't feel doable.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
I lucked out that my very first batch was amazing
because if that first batch had been a dud, which
sometimes harmel is, it's a tricky thing to cook. If
that had been a dud, none of this would have happened.
But I thought, well, gosh, I can do this and
this is great. I'm gonna tweak this a little bit,
and I'm gonna use white sugar instead of brown sugar,
and I played around with it like a chemistry lab
and it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
That is that is very cool. That's why this is
all certaintipity. I mean, look how this all came together.
It's very cool.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It was meant to be sure. I don't doubt it
at all.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I was going to ask you, I think as like
a young person who may still want to start a
business one day, what advice would you give young women
who want to start a business, like people women that
are the same age as your daughters.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Good question.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I'd be open to the science, right.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Imagine if I had ignored all the things that were
getting put in place for me.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Follow your passions.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Don't try to create something just to create something. Definitely
create something you love that your friends love, that someone
wants to buy like you want to follow your joy,
follow your passion, and keep your eyes and heart open
to what's coming to you.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Do either of your daughters have any interest in continuing
with this or do they have other passions that they're following,
or would you encourage them to be part of your business.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I want them to live their life. This was mine.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
You know, it'd be neat if one of them said,
this is the coolest thing ever. I want to do it.
But no one wants to be a doctor. One wants
to be a writer.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
And that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
I'm so excited for them, but this is a fallback.
If they want to take a year off and come
work with me, I'd love it, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's great. Yeah, that is great.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I feel like you.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So a lot of people try to describe successes like
I've been getting a lot of advice as I'm a
young adult trying to start my career here, and some
people are like, yes, say yes to every opportunity. But
something that you do that I think is even better
advice is to say yes the opportunities that you connect
with and that are meaningful to you. Not just saying
(38:41):
yes to everything because you want to advance because you
want that next job, but saying yes to things that
you actually think you're going to exceed in. And then
it seems like these serendipitous things happen when you're enjoying
what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
That's amazing, that's really insightful.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Well there's a lot of there's a
lot of good lesson since in today's show, there's that,
and also saying no to the things that you.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, people like that but don't fit with their.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
What they're doing, with what they're doing, well, see, aren't
you glad you? But I'm so glad you're here because
you've you've learned a lot. You know, your mother would
have just sat over there and interrupted me all the
time and asked a bunch of questions. No, she's good too,
She's very good, and I appreciate it. I think this
is good. This has been great. This is a very
inspiring show for a lot of people who because there's
so many moms out there who want to who have
(39:30):
an idea, that want to start a business, sometimes they
get discouraged because it's not I mean, this has worked
out great, but anything can happen along the way. But
you got to keep pushing forward to which I imagine is
what you were what you share and say I could
get a box of caramels that just give me that message,
you know, keep going and keep trying. Yeah, well that
(39:50):
is great. Well, Patty, how do we order good Carmel?
Where do we go to find you?
Speaker 6 (39:55):
You go to Goodcarmel dot com, g oo d hey
rmal dot com and we have a ton of different
gifts and like low price points, high price points, and
you can also learn how to customize for weddings.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Great, great, so wells. Thank you so much for joining
us today, and we have today. We've got a lot
to share here before we wrap up. First of all,
you met our zoomer moms here. If you want to
be a zoomer mom, you go to our website inside
the Mom's Club and sign up. And if you and
if you're not interested, if you think you know, I
could never do that, which trust me, you all can.
(40:33):
I mean, if I'm sitting here, you could be you
could be sitting there as a zoomer mom. But if
you think that's not me, but I have a great
I have a friend who would be fabulous on as
a zoomer mom. Then sign your friend up or get
your friend to sign up. Because the more moms across
America that can be part of our show, the happier
that we are. This is a club. This is a
network of women across the country supporting each other and
(40:56):
doing it with a lot of humor. And we just
always want to stay positive, which is really the message
of today's show. So do that. Please do that and
also join our chapters. We are developing chapters all over
the country. We have had two fabulous events in my
hometown of Dallas, Texas, and they were fun. The women
got to come out, meet other moms, the local vendors
(41:20):
in the community. They gave and this is what was
really great. They gave prizes. So we had drawings during
the cocktail party, so you could not only come to
it and meet other moms, which is fabulous, but you
could actually win really cool things. And I got to
draw them out and at one point I have to confess, yes,
I threw my name in there and I wasn't supposed to. Thankfully,
(41:44):
I didn't win any I didn't win anything. See that's
probably yeah, But I was tempted because they're really great
some of the local people. In fact, we have a sponsor,
Beverly Hills Lingerie. They were amazing, as we say here
in the Mom's Club. They made a donation and somebody
got to walk away with a great a great prize
from that. So check out in your local town and
(42:06):
if you're interested in getting part of being part of
a chapter in your community, or you want to start one,
just contact us because we are we really want to
be a network of moms across America. The whole, the
whole idea behind the Mom's Club is we support women,
support each other, women women's friendships, are very precious and
special and different then sat. Frankly, a lot of our
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husbands and a lot of men don't have the same kind
of relationships that women do and that moms do. So
that's our goal here on the Mom's Club is to
help you laugh, have fun, but also to connect with
other moms and and that's very rewarding in that that's
what we want to see happen. So please check out
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Speaker 4 (43:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
We have had an amazing time here today with our
guests and with our friends, our zoomer moms, but we
will see you next time. Time has passed so fast,
but we'll see you next time with more celebrities and
extraordinary moms just like you. We know your mean time
is precious and valuable. Thank you so much for spending
it with us. Our motto here is, if you don't
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laugh sometimes moms, you are going to cry. So please
keep laughing and we will see you next time. Inside
the Mom Club.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Lash and bust on the battle flash and bust on
the battle flash and bo
Hi, Welcome to inside the Mom's Club, where being a
mom is the coolest place to be. Here in the
Mom's Club, we believe that what embarrasses you now will
make a great story later. And let's face it, you
don't laugh sometimes you're gonna cry. Join us in having
a good laugh together. I'm Monica Samuels. You are now
(00:36):
inside the Mom's Club, your private destination for all things mom. Welcome, Moms,
Welcome to inside the Mom's Club. I am your host,
Monica Samuels, and I am here with my beautiful co host,
Julie or kid. Welcome Julie. Oh my gosh, Julie, Julie America.
(00:59):
You look amazing, or as we say amazing, I mean,
my gosh, you look twenty years younger.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's CVS Skincare.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Wow, Wow, so improb. You know what I thought it was.
I thought it was that new calumn that we use
and U c A l M. It's a great product
that app that we use to sleep better. Yes, yeah,
so you put that Mom's Club coat in the code
at checkout and got.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You you look you look fabulous.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Now I'm kind of embarrassed and I feel kind of old.
My gosh, no, you know what I'm actually yeah, you're
not Julie, right, You're not Julie. No, you just look
like Julie because you're Julie's daughter, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Right, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I okay, yeah, well, thank you, well, thank you for
coming today and helping this out here. So, so where
is your lovely mother? Because she was here yesterday? So
what she just she's what's she doing?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
My mom went back to Texas?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
She did?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, yeah, because your sister's graduating from high school, yes
she is. Well, that is exciting. So she's very busy,
and you're very busy. Right, you're you're here living in La.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm adulting, you're adulting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
How's that going going?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well? I really I really love living.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Looks good in January?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You do?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay? Well, good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I love the sun.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I love the sun too. I wish it was out
here we've been since we've been in La. I brought
the clouds in the rain, I guess.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But and it's looking a little more like Seattle, yeah
reason days.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, but but it's still fun. Well, I'm so glad.
I'm thrilled that you could join us and sub in
today evening. Well, thank you. Yeah, this is gonna be
fun because we are gonna have a fun, fun show today.
You know why, because it's super fun. I mean, I
love this. I love what we're talking about today because
(02:42):
I love Carmel. So let me ask you a question.
What if something as simple as a piece of caramel
could shift your whole mood or even your whole day?
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I personally, I would like to Well, Okay, I think
we know someone.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Let's go for it. Yes, because today's guest believes that
it can. She's a former Hollywood executive and she turned
entrepreneur founder of Good Carmel. She's the mom of two daughters,
and her company is based in Bozeman, Montana. Please welcome
Patty West. Welcome to the Mom's Called Patty.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This is so I mean, it's just as we say
here in the Mom's Club. This is amazing the whole story.
So can you take us through from your concept to
the kitchen? How did this? How did Good Carmel start?
Tell us the story?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Okay, it's a little long. I'll try to shorten it
as much as I can. I was dating this really
outdoorsy guy, and he got me into hiking, and he
brought a ziploc bag of carmel that had bought his
boss had made, and I thought, wait, you could I
just made karmel on this stove. I mean, I wasn't
(04:02):
a cook or a chef or anything like that, but
I thought that sounds kind of cool. I think I
want to do it. So I played around and I
got my mom's old cookbooks like Betty Croper and Good Housekeeping,
and I tried a bunch of different recipes and I
came up with some caramel that I loved, and I
thought this would make a really cool, like Christmas gift
(04:23):
for all the people I worked with, friends and family.
And then I got to thinking, like what if I
tried to make it more meaningful, Like how could I
add some meaning into it? And I decided to go
to my collection of inspirational quotes. I always was collecting
quotes and writing them down on everything, and I had
a friend helped me figure out.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
How to create a logo and it was a little Buddha.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
And I wrapped each caramel with quotes and got some
packaging and gave it to friends, and literally the next
day everyone's like you need to quit your job at
Corner Brothers and start this business.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
This is a product.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Wow. You know I always think things happen like it's
this was meant to because you picked You picked caramel,
Like if you had chosen chocolate, it wouldn't have worked together,
you know, like because it's karma with an L at
the end, and then you're bringing in good karma and
with as part of your product, you're right providing.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And my brother's really punny, he's a bit of a
wordster jokester, and he I was talking about bringing some
caramel to go visit my nana and he's like, that'd
be good carmel.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm like, oh, there you go.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Like that's it. Like all these little pieces just were sort.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Of floating around in my head and it just all
really came together. It was a total like Oprah aha moment.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, and speaking of Oprah, so you were discovered by
and then you know what, some of our other guests
we've had on the show, including one I'll mention a
little bit later, they started by Oprah discovering their product.
So that's what happened with Good Caramels. I understand. So
you were part of Oprah's Favorite Things. How did that happen?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah, So, while I was still working in Hollywood my
regular job, I was, you know, starting to create the
business at night, and a friend of mine had given
a sample to another person who worked on a blog
called Daily Candy, and we got in that blog and
like as soon as they said, you're going to be
in this blog.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So I built a website really.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Fast, and someone from Harpo Films, Oprah's film production company,
saw that blog and bought some and sent it to
Chicago for them to try it out.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So it really just happened really organically.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Wow, you know, I've so this is the second story
where something like that has happened. I don't know that
we're going to suggest that all the moms out there
that start making things and sending it over to Harpo
or to Oprah, you're going to be in the Favorite Things.
But that is a very cool story.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah. So we're way too small to handle that level
of exposure.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Six months in, I can imagine, we had to shut down.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
The show aired like November twenty fifth, you know, it
was her holiday things, and the next we had to
shut down our website for the rest of the year
and just frantically try to fulfill all those orders.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, well that's a good problem to have, I guess
as it could be. Yeah, no, that is great. So
you what, so tell us a little about your career
in Hollywood. So what did you like? I want to
call it give up because you didn't. You're into something
really amazing. But what were you doing before you were
doing this?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I was a publicist for television shows, so not specifically
the actors, but the entire show. So I worked with
like twentieth Century Fox, worked on the studio side. They
would hire us, and then ultimately I ended up working
at Corner Brothers TV Network the WB.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
So we would handle publicity for all the.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Shows sorry as they would launch, we would get talk
shows for the actors. We would you know, book the
actors on talk shows or you know, pitch a magazine
feature and we would handle.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
All of that. So it was a lot of travel,
very glamorous.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
I worked with some wonderful, wonderful people like Sarah Michelle
Geller on Buffy, and Carrie Russell on Felicity, Christine Baranski
on Sybil, just really iconic women.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
It was a great, great job.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
HM. So what did it feel like? What prompted you
then to make this change? Because when you have a
successful career like that, I mean, I imagine if I
shared that career story with a lot of people, they'd
be like, well, she stayed in and of course that's
glamorous and wonderful. What was in you that you decided,
you know what, I think I'm going to make this
kind of risky at time. I mean, because being an
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entrepreneur is a risky endeavor. What made you make that decision?
You know?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
When I went to college, I did an undergraduate business
program at the University of Virginia, and so I knew
a little bit about all of it. I'd marketing it, accounting, finance.
You know, I felt like I had more to give
than what I was doing in my job.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I had more that I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
It just seemed like I had more creativity and more
ideas than what was being captured in that job.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And so now you did did you immediately? You're in
both You're in Montana now, so yeah, when was when
did that happen? Because the company's based there? Correct?
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Yeah, so yeah, after Oprah, I mean, we you know,
slept for like a week after that rush, and then
I hired someone to I'm like, find me someone who
can manufacture this for us.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'll go anywhere. I didn't have kids. I just had
a boyfriend. We weren't even married yet.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
And she brought us this article of a woman in Bozeman,
Montana who had started a caramel company. She bought all
this equipment. Didn't have a ton of sales. I had
a ton of sales, no equipment. So she took us on.
So they manufacture you know, our caramel for us, along
with theirs as well, and so we moved to Bozeman, Montana.
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For that partnership. Were two separate companies. But it it's
been amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh that's great. Well, Montana's beautiful. But when I when
I think of Bozeman, I always think of that Big
Bang Theory episode where Sheldon's trying to get away from
Pasadena to go somewhere safe and he ends up in Bozeman.
And so you know, I'm never been there, but I mean,
I know that Montana's gorgeous. Well that had to be that.
It'd be quite a change from Los Angeles to go
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to Bozeman, Montana. What was that like?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
It was it was a really big change. Bozeman's nice
in that it's a university town, so there are people
from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh yeah, there is a lot.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
There are a lot of urban transplants who have ended
up here. But I mean it, there's snow. I'm looking
at my window at snow. It snowed yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh wow. Well it's a little chili here. You're not
missing as far as you're not. The warm weather is
not not here today.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's a little colder in Montana.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
But what's been neat?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
You know, when I moved here, I wasn't thinking about family,
and it's been an amazing place to raise kids. My
girls are super outdoorsy and really grounded, and it's been
a great experience.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So do your daughters. I know, in some of the
mom preneur sort of things that we talk about on
this show, they include their kids. I mean sometimes right
down to you know, packaging the item and shipping it,
and like, have you integrated your kids or are they
involved in all in it? Or how does that work.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
They're both super busy with their own things, but certainly
around Christmas time I rope them in and that's exactly
what they're doing. They are packaging, they are shipping.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Absolutely, I feel like this.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
To me, this would be a very fun. Well, first
of all, I think it's great. When I started to
do this get ready for this interview, I thought, well,
there's that old tomato versus tomato thing, like people say
caramel or caramel, but in your case, you would have
to say caramel every time because and there's no.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Correct Now I'm not consistent, it's true, I do say carara.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh really, okay, I think both Well, it works for
this for sure, But to me, you have like it.
It seems like a fun. If I had a product
like this, didn't it be able to come up with
inspirational quotes or like fun? How do you do that?
And that that has to be fun? How do you
choose what it's going to go in the product as
far as the quotes, because that's a big part of
what you're it's what you're selling it is.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And there are also there are a lot of fake
quotes out there. You know, we'll find a quote that's
amazing and you look it up and it's like this,
this person never said this quote. But my criteria is
it has to be positive and about either being good
to yourself, being good to others, being good to the earth.
So that's that's really my that's how I try to
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live my life.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And you're very and you're also really into sustainability. I
mean your company is trying to be positive all the
way around in terms of how you conduct the company.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, I mean it's called good Kramel. Yeah, like if
we are what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, that's true. If you were polluting everywhere, that would
probably be bad caramelsthing. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's great. Well,
we actually have some samples here that you were kind
enough to provide, and I mean there's they've got, Like,
I'm going to keep this one because everyone knows I'm
the best dog mom ever, so I cannot wait to
uh to read what it's in here. Oh when it's
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also gluten free and so that's great. So even my
son who's got a gluten intolerant best cat mom, it's
you are okay good, that's yeah. I Cats kind of
take care of themselves though, don't they. I mean or
I don't know, like I always feel like a cat
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a mom. Everybody needs a mom, that's true.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
They make their emotions heard. Oh okay, they feel things
pretty deeply.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
They do.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They're very opinionad.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Your mom is a badass mama, so that's pretty perfect
for her.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But Monica, I think you need this one.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
This one is you are brilliant and kind and super hot.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So No, that does not say super salt super hot.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh, stupid hot, so hot. I can't read. That's my problem.
Oh yes, stupid hot. Well that works too.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's illiterate and stupid hot.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, that just makes me stupid, right, I can't read.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I'm stupid hot.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm stupid hot and stupid. No, that would not be
good caramel to tell me I'm stupid.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I mean, well, I want good car stupid hot.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I mean that I'm whatever. You're super hot, super cool.
I love this, and I'm sure it's delicious too. So
does it come in I see sea salt caramel? Does
it come in different flavors of caramel?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Or yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
We do vanilla sea salt and chocolate sea salt in
all of the boxes.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Oh it's your favorite sea salt.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay, Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Whenever, whenever I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Like walking through the office and I think I better
do a quick quality check, I'm always grabbing this.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think that sounds like a perfect plan.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, I think I'd have a serious problem working in
it's like a sweet business like that, because I would
want to be quality testing a little bit too much.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I'm working in retail right now and I can barely
get through the day without buying something, so I this
would be a big challenge.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, this would be super tempting for me. And that's
for sure because I love caramel.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
So we're doing when we hire like that's one of
the biggest perks is literally all the caramel you can eat,
like take it home.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
We have a ton of scraps or like.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Misshapen ones, and people are just like leaving home with
like huge bags.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Oh wow, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I have a friend who works at a gym and
complains about not being able to have a gym membership
at the gym they work at. I'm gonna tell them
to quit and work for good Karmo, because then they
won't have to worry about the gym.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They can just eat caramel.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Mm hmm. No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, then she did, and they'll send them Bozeman.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Moved them up to Bozeman. Yeah, I think they'd they
would love it. It's gorgeous up there for one night
for what I understand. So what is your favorite quote, like,
what inspires you? If you got if what quote would
you want in your box of caramels?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Have a few.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
The one that I love is help your brothers boat
across and your own will reach the shore. That's not
like a Hindu proverb, but you know, when you help
someone out, you're not inconveniencing yourself. You're actually getting yourself
something too, you know, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Plato.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
There's a Plato quote that I like. It's be kind Forever.
I think it's everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
So I'm terrify.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
But you know, every single person you encounter has such
a backstory that you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Know, right.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Yeah, And I think it's another one that I really
like is if you're facing in the right direction, all
we have to do is keep walking.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
If your intention is pointed right, each day you're moving
it forward.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I love. I love the positivity of it. Now
for our moms out there who are trying to start
their own businesses, business is business sometimes, do you ever
find there's a tension between the business side of it
and your desire to keep it positive and sweet and great.
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I mean, do you feel any of that? How do
you deal with that? How do you handle that part
of it?
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I say no to a lot of things, like there's
so much that would have grown our business that I
just declined throughout the years. You know, I shut down
for three months each time I had a baby, just
shut it down, wow, and came back and hoped that
customers came back.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
We chose to don't. We don't sell to stores.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
You can only buy it on our website, which you know,
we could be much much bigger, but less profitable and less.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Time with my babies.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Yeah and so so yeah, I mean I held I've
hold I've held it back a ton.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well that's great.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's really admirable.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I think people will get lost.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
And pick them up from school and go to the plays.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I got to do all this stuff while also having
this great business.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
That is great.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
They appreciate that more than you know. Also having a
parent that's there to go to those events.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, that is true. That's why I retired from law
there for a while, so I could spend time with
my kids, so that I could become the team mom
of my son's baseball team and then become a little
much for that. But I but I was there for him.
Hope you knew that. No, that's really cool. Do you
do that with all your employees too? Like do they
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have a pretty generous liberal policy as far as like
if they have a baby or how does that work?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I mean, I'm not a huge company, so I can't
provide all those huge benefits that large companies.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, but yeah, we say that.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
You know, we want there, you know, your job to
fit your lifestyle. So we work as much as we can.
If you want to work from six am to noon, great,
if you want to work from noon to six great.
You know, we want to try and make it work.
And yes, we have a lot of people who have
to leave for kids stuff, And I'm thumbs up on
that big time.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you know it's interesting you said, you know, you
could be a lot bigger and if you were at
the mindset you know, I'm going to grow and be
this amazing. You know, I'm gonna be bought by private
equity or once you could do that, But you're super
successful with keeping it within your own values. I mean,
like you just you've been on the Today Show You've
been featured in Forbes, You're everywhere, and yet you've stayed
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true to your mission and your values and you're being
rewarded for that. If you know, that kind of attention
is like the reward. But I think that's a lesson
for all those moms out there who want to start
their own company. You don't have to, you know, stick
to your values. What you're trying to do, and you'll
be You'll be rewarded in so many ways, is not
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just financially. So that's what's so cool about what you're doing. Well,
what's the next step for good Karmel? What do you
want any thing in the future here that you've got
planned that we'd love to know about?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Great question, you know, No, we're just going to We
just keep growing every year, and you know all those
boxes you showed, that's what we're really enjoying is all
those different designs, seeing why people are ordering and what
they're sending, what their gift messages are, and then creating
new boxes based on you know, what people are looking for.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's been really fun.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, because didn't you start out where people were like,
do people like if I've said I want to send
something to all of my my Zoomer moms out there
who've been so wonderful to us and been a big
part of the show. Do I give you suggestions for Hey,
I want you to send this message? Or yeah, is
that how that you can custom order?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Like half of our business is custom orders. So we
were with brands like Nike and Microsoft and Evada and
you know, huge great brands and they'll create their own
box label or we'll create it with them and then
they can pick you know where we have quotes wrapped
around the caramels. They can put corporate messaging like Amex
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puts their their brand message. But like right now, we're
printing something today for a funeral, for a you know,
a service.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
We've got the photo of the.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Person and people will put quotes from their loved one
who has passed, like funny quotes. Like people make it
so creative. It's so fun to see what people do.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Oh wow, I feel like there's so much opportunity in
making custom orders, and I think it's really cool that
you guys are able to do that. It's a way
to expand the good karma exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, I love that, and you know me, I'm such
a shopper. You're You're probably gonna hear a lot from me, actually,
because now I'm going to custom order everything all my
all my friends are gonna like the Mom's Club, our
own little group of friends. Absolutely don't don't tell your mom,
but yeah, I can do a custom order to the
friends we call our we call ourselves the Disney Moms.
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Is kind of a long story, but yeah, something like that,
that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Or weddings a wedding.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We do a ton of weddings. Great, we have We
have a mom who.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Just ordered some boxes for her daughter celebration just graduated
from med school. And on the wrappers, instead of where
we put you know, good karma, she put its doctor.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Actually, I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That is cute. Well, and I know I noticed how
you asked that question. Georgia, you do weddings great. Do
you have anything didn't tell your mother? No? No, no, A
very serious boyfriend by the wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, I thought we come into my cousin's weddings this year.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I thought we could make an announcement here on the
mom's while your mom wasn't wasn't here.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
She'd kill me if I made without her. But that's
the number one problem.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But I tell you what if you if that happens,
then I think.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Then I'm getting to myself some good custom Karmel.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You should.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I also, I think that it's I love that you've
made this because something about I mean witty jokes that
women make to each other and like that. It's doctor
actually like that kind of stuff. That you're combining it
with a suite. It makes for a really unique experience,
and I just think that's so cool that you can
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share that. I think it's a feminist humor some of it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, what's the most interesting request you've ever got? When
you're like, wow, where did that one come from? But
that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I think the I think the best one was honestly
for a celebration of life, where they put the funniest things,
like the funny things this man has said in his life,
and they were racy, like they were Oh, it was
really funny. I pictured all the family members opening these
and cracking up.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's good. Yeah, that is because that that is a
very positive thing and a various kind of stressful situation.
I'm gonna make a note of that too, because my husband,
he already wrote his entire We went to the computer
one day and my kids went to the printer and
they looked on it and my husband had written his
own funeral out because I guess he doesn't trust us
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to do a really good job with it. So we're
just gonna surprise. Yeah, we're gonna surprise him with him
and it was Carmel. Yeah, we're gonna add and tell
him we're gonna do that. I think that would be
very cool. Well, this is so interesting and I can
already promise you you've got you just whatever happens with
the rest of the show, I promise you've got a
really good customer. That would be me. You're gonna be
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very happy that you were on this.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Show because I order lots of stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But we have some other women who also are interested,
and those are our zoomer moms. Welcome zoomer moms, Welcome
to them. Hell, well, this is so much fun. And
I have to say to all you zoomer moms, the
ones that are here, We're so thrilled that you're here.
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And I just want to share with our moms out there.
If you have friends or you want to be a
zoomer mom, you just have to get in touch with us,
and you can also be a zoomer mom on the show.
Very rewarding, as you will find out. So let's welcome
our zoomer moms First. Shannon, Welcome to the Mom's Club.
Tell us your name, where you're from, and a little
bit about yourself. Hi.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
I'm Shannon Summers.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
I'm from Dallas, Texas, and I've got two boys, one
in college and one about to be in college this fall,
so soon to be an empty nester. I'm not quite
sure how i feel about that yet, but day by
day I'll take it. And I'm a fractional CMO right
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here in Dallas. And Patty, I love that you've talked
about Good Carmel because I have to say I've been
a customer. I've ordered in bulk for clients before and
know how one delicious they are and to what a
big hit they were with my clients. So it's been
really fun to learn about your business. And I had
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a question for you. As I've been building my own
fractional business. One of the things that is challenging is
kind of juggling time and knowing where should you spend
your time to get the biggest output for your business.
So I'd love to know your thoughts on kind of
I guess it's the juggling at all question.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That's a great question. Well, I'm so psyched to hear
you're a customer. That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I'm in the same boat, by the way, one in college,
one about to go to college.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Oh, it's terrifying, isn't it awful?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yes, I just I'm taking a watercolor class. I'm trying
to come how I'm going to fill all of it in.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, that that to do list is so serious, right,
trying to figure out what to do because there is
an unending of never ending really important things to do. Definitely,
I delegate as much as I can. I work with
my husband, my brother, and a lot of great staff members,
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so I do.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I am always looking for something.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
That they could grow with, Like if there's a problem
that they could solve and also learn a new skill
so that the next top time that problem came up
they could do it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I'm always looking for that.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I try to really spend my time on things that
require me. I am the only one who could do this,
and that of course requires some humility, so that I
don't think that all of it requires me that's really hard.
And yeah, anything that is super impactful. I try, even
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though those are the hardest things and so I want
to procrastinate them.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I try to tackle them.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Anything with a huge deadline, Am I about to miss
a deal because I've waited too long? So time sensitive
and impactful, where like this is going to move my
business forward if I tackle this. Those are the things
I really try to focus on. But you can't do
all of that every day. So then I also try
to give myself little wins, but just eat. Okay, I
can move this forward and it'll be really easy, and
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I feel great about myself.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That's great.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
That's really helpful.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Thank you, Yeah, yeah, you bet.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Thanks Brittany, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us your name,
where you're from, and a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Yes, thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
My name's Brittany Washington, And just like Shannon, I am
here from Dallas, Texas a transplant though all the way
from San Diego, California, so yes, a little bit of.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Cali and me. But yes, nice to meet you, Patty.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
I am actually have not tried good caramel, but I'm
going too soon. But yes, I'm actually in marketing, just
like like Shannon. And one thing, I'm actually in a PR,
PR and marketing, and I have clients who are mothers
(29:18):
and I do marketing and a lot of them are mothers,
and they do juggle a lot in between trying to
balance that lifestyle in PR and living that lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
And I have a question for you when.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
It comes to being in the public eye and trying
to be a mother and the things that they are
trying to articulate.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
How do you try to balance.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
I want to say, being in social media and living
the lifestyle of trying to just be you and using
what's that word we try.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
To say in social media? Balancing just living that just
trying to be you?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
What's that word we use, Shannon, in social media living.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
The authenticity lifestyle?
Speaker 8 (30:19):
Thank you, the authenticity lifestyle because a lot of them
try to ask me how to be living that authenticity lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
But being a mom but trying not.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
To use vulgar lifestyle vulgar words, but trying to be
a mom too.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
How do you balance that lifestyle?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I'm pretty vulgar.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, I think that I think about the people on
social media that I really connect with YEA are so
flawed and raw and vulnerable. And I think trying to
be perfect in any aspect, and I speak from experience,
(31:10):
is painful and doesn't move anything forward. You're stuck. You
can't move if you're going to be perfect. So I
think I would advise clients to really like find your
vulnerability and share it.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I think it's the imposter syndrome too, is also too
where I was trying to get at that imposter syndrome
trying to be someone else, but also to trying to
balance that lifestyle of being a mom.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah. I mean, man, my kids are seventeen and nineteen,
so I'm over a lot of hurdles.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
And I really thought I was doing all the things
I was supposed to do and I was doing everything right.
And I look back now and I'm like, man, we
should have had a lot more fun and I should
have worried less about the schedule rules and the carpools
and what are they wearing?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
What is their hair like?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
And if I had had an influencer helping me see
that earlier, I think that would have been amazing. I mean,
that's what I would look for, is like, yes, we're
all impostors.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
M h, yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, that was a great question because yeah, there's also
I guess a challenge of your company is all about
positivity and good karma. And but if everybody saw you
that like, oh, she's really not you know you do
you feel like you when you said you're a little vulgar?
I mean you feel like sometimes you have to project
some kind of image of good karma or good karma.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know, I don't.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I really let the product lead for itself. I am
not out here unlike today, I am not usually out
here as a spokesperson. It's not my comfort zone. I
am doing this just for a friend. She pushed me
to do it, and I'm thrilled that I'm doing it,
But no, I feel like I am pretty anonymous mostly
(33:02):
in my life.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, we're thrilled that you were able to do it too,
and yet I've seen you on the Today Show, so
you've been a good spokesman for you are a good
spokesman for it, And I just also want to comment
just personally. I'm still often that we have a lot
of zoomers from Dallas, and I'm from Dallas, so you know,
good job, ladies, I'm so thrilled that you're here. Yeah,
(33:25):
because I'm actually from well, from Plano, but you know,
when you're from Plano, you say you're from Dallas. That's
kind of how it works there. Kim, welcome to the
Mom's Club. What's tell us your name, where you're from,
and do you have a question.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, So my name's Kim.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
This is Leila. We used to I used to live
in LA and I moved to Trinidad, California. It's like
population three hundred and eleven people in northern California. So yes,
we're kind of in the middle of nowhere. But I'm
very inspired by what you were saying, just as mom
that's also trying to start a business and just so
(34:03):
that I can be with my kids more so. I
guess my question would be what point in your children's
life did you start the business and how have you
created those partnerships with big brands.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Good question.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
So I started it before I was married and before
I had kids, so I had all those late night
hours I was free to I mean, I burnt every
midnight oil I could that we it was crazy, And
once the babies came, I slowed down for sure and
(34:38):
got help and so, yeah, I understand that just the
brain drain and the energy drain when you have little ones,
it's really hard to get something off the ground.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
You definitely want to go easy on yourself.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
And the partnership with the brands came, I would say,
from the great press that we got when we started out,
so they would see us, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
In a in style magazine, and then they would reach
out to us.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
But we also do a lot of work on LinkedIn,
trying to get out to other people in companies, you know,
just a lot of posting, a lot of sharing of
successes and things like that.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, okay, thank you for that good network. Yeah, sure,
I you know, I just it just dawned on me,
like how you started. So you've got a recipe and
I've asked ask you this question, is I'm the world's
worst cook? I mean, if I'd gotten that recipe and
mixed it, nobody would be buying caramel from me. I'm guarantee.
You like so, but you're you're saying, you're not, like,
(35:40):
how did you do that? You just by luck it
turned out great and you that was how it worked?
Or what did you do?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Kind of I mean, I really I was not a cook.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I was a latchkey kid. I never saw my mom
cooking a meal. She'll kill me for that, but it's true.
But to me, when I read that caramel recipe, it
almost felt more like a chemistry lab versus.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
You'll know when the brisket's done. I don't. I can't
tell when meat is done. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
This was this had a thermometer like, this was math,
and I felt like, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Can do that. I can do math and chemistry. So yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
So for me, somehow that felt totally doable when you
know cooking.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Doesn't feel doable.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
I lucked out that my very first batch was amazing
because if that first batch had been a dud, which
sometimes harmel is, it's a tricky thing to cook. If
that had been a dud, none of this would have happened.
But I thought, well, gosh, I can do this and
this is great. I'm gonna tweak this a little bit,
and I'm gonna use white sugar instead of brown sugar,
and I played around with it like a chemistry lab
and it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
That is that is very cool. That's why this is
all certaintipity. I mean, look how this all came together.
It's very cool.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It was meant to be sure. I don't doubt it
at all.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I was going to ask you, I think as like
a young person who may still want to start a
business one day, what advice would you give young women
who want to start a business, like people women that
are the same age as your daughters.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Good question.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I'd be open to the science, right.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Imagine if I had ignored all the things that were
getting put in place for me.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Follow your passions.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Don't try to create something just to create something. Definitely
create something you love that your friends love, that someone
wants to buy like you want to follow your joy,
follow your passion, and keep your eyes and heart open
to what's coming to you.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Do either of your daughters have any interest in continuing
with this or do they have other passions that they're following,
or would you encourage them to be part of your business.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I want them to live their life. This was mine.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
You know, it'd be neat if one of them said,
this is the coolest thing ever. I want to do it.
But no one wants to be a doctor. One wants
to be a writer.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
And that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
I'm so excited for them, but this is a fallback.
If they want to take a year off and come
work with me, I'd love it, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's great. Yeah, that is great.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I feel like you.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So a lot of people try to describe successes like
I've been getting a lot of advice as I'm a
young adult trying to start my career here, and some
people are like, yes, say yes to every opportunity. But
something that you do that I think is even better
advice is to say yes the opportunities that you connect
with and that are meaningful to you. Not just saying
(38:41):
yes to everything because you want to advance because you
want that next job, but saying yes to things that
you actually think you're going to exceed in. And then
it seems like these serendipitous things happen when you're enjoying
what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
That's amazing, that's really insightful.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Well there's a lot of there's a
lot of good lesson since in today's show, there's that,
and also saying no to the things that you.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, people like that but don't fit with their.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
What they're doing, with what they're doing, well, see, aren't
you glad you? But I'm so glad you're here because
you've you've learned a lot. You know, your mother would
have just sat over there and interrupted me all the
time and asked a bunch of questions. No, she's good too,
She's very good, and I appreciate it. I think this
is good. This has been great. This is a very
inspiring show for a lot of people who because there's
so many moms out there who want to who have
(39:30):
an idea, that want to start a business, sometimes they
get discouraged because it's not I mean, this has worked
out great, but anything can happen along the way. But
you got to keep pushing forward to which I imagine is
what you were what you share and say I could
get a box of caramels that just give me that message,
you know, keep going and keep trying. Yeah, well that
(39:50):
is great. Well, Patty, how do we order good Carmel?
Where do we go to find you?
Speaker 6 (39:55):
You go to Goodcarmel dot com, g oo d hey
rmal dot com and we have a ton of different
gifts and like low price points, high price points, and
you can also learn how to customize for weddings.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Great, great, so wells. Thank you so much for joining
us today, and we have today. We've got a lot
to share here before we wrap up. First of all,
you met our zoomer moms here. If you want to
be a zoomer mom, you go to our website inside
the Mom's Club and sign up. And if you and
if you're not interested, if you think you know, I
could never do that, which trust me, you all can.
(40:33):
I mean, if I'm sitting here, you could be you
could be sitting there as a zoomer mom. But if
you think that's not me, but I have a great
I have a friend who would be fabulous on as
a zoomer mom. Then sign your friend up or get
your friend to sign up. Because the more moms across
America that can be part of our show, the happier
that we are. This is a club. This is a
network of women across the country supporting each other and
(40:56):
doing it with a lot of humor. And we just
always want to stay positive, which is really the message
of today's show. So do that. Please do that and
also join our chapters. We are developing chapters all over
the country. We have had two fabulous events in my
hometown of Dallas, Texas, and they were fun. The women
got to come out, meet other moms, the local vendors
(41:20):
in the community. They gave and this is what was
really great. They gave prizes. So we had drawings during
the cocktail party, so you could not only come to
it and meet other moms, which is fabulous, but you
could actually win really cool things. And I got to
draw them out and at one point I have to confess, yes,
I threw my name in there and I wasn't supposed to. Thankfully,
(41:44):
I didn't win any I didn't win anything. See that's
probably yeah, But I was tempted because they're really great
some of the local people. In fact, we have a sponsor,
Beverly Hills Lingerie. They were amazing, as we say here
in the Mom's Club. They made a donation and somebody
got to walk away with a great a great prize
from that. So check out in your local town and
(42:06):
if you're interested in getting part of being part of
a chapter in your community, or you want to start one,
just contact us because we are we really want to
be a network of moms across America. The whole, the
whole idea behind the Mom's Club is we support women,
support each other, women women's friendships, are very precious and
special and different then sat. Frankly, a lot of our
(42:28):
husbands and a lot of men don't have the same kind
of relationships that women do and that moms do. So
that's our goal here on the Mom's Club is to
help you laugh, have fun, but also to connect with
other moms and and that's very rewarding in that that's
what we want to see happen. So please check out
the chapters, and we also want to thank one of
(42:49):
our sponsors that we have for all because this is
the month where we're sharing things with moms everywhere. Farmhouse
Fresh has the most amazing products you've ever put on
your skin. I thought yes, because that's when I first
thought the glow that you had over there, and I thought, oh, Julie,
you've gotten so much younger. Yes, it's because that wouldn't
(43:12):
surprise me because Farmhouse Fresh has these amazing products. One
of my favorites is make It Melt because it helps
you take your makeup off. It's probably better than anything
I've ever had before. And Timescape, which if you're going
to buy gift for a friend, I would highly suggest
that anyway, it is certainly something you want to check out.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
We have had an amazing time here today with our
guests and with our friends, our zoomer moms, but we
will see you next time. Time has passed so fast,
but we'll see you next time with more celebrities and
extraordinary moms just like you. We know your mean time
is precious and valuable. Thank you so much for spending
it with us. Our motto here is, if you don't
(43:53):
laugh sometimes moms, you are going to cry. So please
keep laughing and we will see you next time. Inside
the Mom Club.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Lash and bust on the battle flash and bust on
the battle flash and bo
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