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May 2, 2025 67 mins
Patrick just got back from the Shanghai auto show and he's MAD at how behind America's EVs are. He tells Tim all about experiencing China's dominant EVs for the first time, how they compare to Tesla, and why American automakers and consumers are basically screwed.

The guys also discuss the big news of the week. They explain why it's such a big deal that Tesla's board initiated a search for a CEO to replace Elon Musk, according to The Wall Street Journal. Plus, they talk about why Waymo is teaming up with Toyota to develop self-driving cars.

Further reading on the Shanghai Auto Show, and the Waymo-Toyota partnership, and Tesla's search for a new CEO

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