Matt Quit...

Well kinda. Today we go over why restaurants seem to lie to get poeple to work for them. Is this a tactic to get people on board?; Is this an idustry standard?; or do people just suck? It's good to be back.

Episode Transcript

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And you can hear my note youcan hear my notebook flowing. So first
of all, your videos. Ihave a few things, a few things
to say. So background, wewere supposed to record yesterday, couldn't record.
Some stuff happened. It doesn't matter. We're not going to get into
that. Yeah, but it waseither way. So Matt then proceeds to

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send me seven or eight separate videosof him going to a bar that we
all love called the beer Stew.We can say beer Stew on this and
just show show showing his day.And I've never been more annoyed. Slash
Like, I mean, it wasfunny, but then I was just like
you were telling people that I knowthat I was the one that canceled,

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but you were the one that said, hey, we don't have to do
it today. So first of all, fuck you. Then well, I
mean I kind of like let youcancel because it seemed like it was more
important for you to not record aboutYeah, and it totally was, and
you still were being at no,no, but like it's just don't be

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a dick, dick anyway, thisis insightful. I'm playing the theme song
why you should have taken a headsetwhen you're visiting here last time, because

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that headset is junk. I know, I have a wireless one that I
think is no, let's not funwith that today. First first, and
I know you can tell because it'sit's got that blue you look it looked
cute. I thought that was whenyou gave it to Porter and he just
wanted to play with them. Itis really that is so first and foremost,

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what are you drinking? It's thefuckingers got a nice check out what
I'm drinking. And it's not becausenope, all this fucking Miller Light.
You know who's gonna be proud isJacob m Bell. So I switched to

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Miller Light. Not because I gotupset over a beer can. It's because,
like my taste have changed, LikeI love I love the taste of
Miller Light. Yeah, and solike and I can definitely tell the difference.
And and all that time I thoughtthat everybody was just so crazy and
and all that stuff. But hewas very happy. I told him,

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like a couple of weeks ago,I was like, dude, I made
the switch. Made we were wewere like not brainwashed. But there's like
Millard and then there's Bud light townsand hundred percent it's a bud Light.
I mean, you get some placesthat it's a millerd bar. Yeah,
it's it's it's one of them things. But I am drinking Miller Light.

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I do want to call out somethingelse that you said in one of your
funny little videos where you're talking shitto me. So and this is just
like a those are by the way, I think I've said this twice in
text. They don't have to beuseful. I know, I know you
were bored, But what I'm sayingis you said something that really resonates with
me. You haven't even played SoI started playing Starfield, which is a

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game that Bethesda came out with.Bethesda came out with Fallout, Sider,
Rims, all that stuff, supernerdy fucking shit, super nerdy role playing
games or whatever. We're here totalk about restaurants. But you said,
oh, I don't like that becauseI'm not gonna do the same shoot of
Space. You haven't even fucking playedit. It just came out yesterday.
I don't like I played about twohours, only like an hour and a

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half maybe two hours, like alot of set up obviously, because it's
a fucking Bethesda game. But ohyeah, you spent Yeah, so I'm
I made you. I made you. I have a question you made me.
I was going through I swear togod, I swear to god.
You can ask Tyler and Sean becausethey were watching me on stream because I
like I needed social interaction because wedidn't pod and you were already gone.

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So I was just like, fuckingI'll stream. Yeah I did too,
and I got that videos. SoI was I was talking to them and
I was just going through these presetsand then all of a sudden, there's
a character that has Remember when youhad like a super bushy beard, so
it was like that bushy beard,but then it was like that the twirly
mustache, and it fucking looked likeyou, dude, I'm not kidding,

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it looked like you. And Iwas like, yeah, I'm just calling
this Turner. Yeah like that,I'm calling this I'm calling this guy Turner
because like, one of the backgroundsis chef, so I made him.
I made him a chef. Andthen we also picked out a lot of
traits that we think were very similarto you, and they were all very
inappropriate. I can't remember them offthe top of my head. But either

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way, it's a good game andand you should you should try to play
it a lot. Go ahead.Here's what it's not. It's just I
don't like yeah, but you like, you can be a space prior,
you can rob shit. It's justlike and I got I literally if scratching

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the surface of a game, likeI don't even think I scratched close to
the surface. I played it foronly two hours. Is there like guns
and guns, laser ships, there'sdifferent planets. I'm out, so you'd
rather Okay, I'm out. Ilike rudimentary tools. I don't even like
in Skyrim that the magic Okay,well, hey, tweet zero, just
tweet zero and that's always fine.I'm not I'm not a judgment I just

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that's why I'm actually it's pretty fuckinggorgeous, Like it's just pretty and it's
like, but as the knows whatthey're doing. One question, and we
can obviously cut this out. Doyou want to talk about your current status
in the job world? Because Ikind of yeah, so, well,
because what's because something I really reallywant to talk about is, well,

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first of all, what happened,like, so so you can you can
explain what happened. But the topicbehind that, well, we'll get into
it after you, after you kindof tell your story a little bit,
and you don't have you don't haveto blast them either. Not gonna blast
them. I'm not gonna blast them. They're a good family, a good
kid. I wish she had givenme any response to what I said,
so I could have maybe like givenhim a little bit of advice and out

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and not let this happened again.But you know, this is a young
guy running a restaurant. He grewup in a restaurant family. He's extremely
dedicated. These are every fucking dayand that's great. He's also twenty six
and doesn't have kids or a kidor anything, you know, and he
gets a girlfriend. And I tookthe job because it was a set schedule

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and it was okay. Money,the money is whatever. But you know,
the first couple of weeks you alwaysknow there's training. It's not going
to be exactly what you know,what you're supposed to be doing. But
it just turned into like he couldn'tcome through on that promise of you know,
I need these two days off everyweek. This many hours a week

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is okay, it's a restaurant orI don't mind working fifty fifty five hours
a week, but you know,just some things are out of his control,
and I think and he expects everyoneto kind of do the same share
of the work that he's doing.I'm not my name's on the door.
I'm not gonna do eighty hours aweek. I'm not going to do fourteen
hour days. Also, I washired to like be a kitchen manager or

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whatever you want to call that role, and not a pizza cook. And
you ended up becoming a pizza cookand working fourteen hour days and working the
days that they said you wouldn't work. Yeah, right, Yeah, I
mean I did have basically I hadthe same two days off every week,
but they weren't the two days offthat I had discussed. And the days
that I was working were not openingand leaving at a reasonable time. They

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were just like opening and then stayinguntil almost and closing, coming into early
to close. And yeah, Idon't know, like he might think,
oh, it was just going tobe a short term thing, but I've
done so yeah, I can watchit. Yeah. And the other guy
that got hired with me, Imean I thought he was gonna quit well

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before I did. Mine was definitelya bit of a fucking rash decision.
But when I'm looking at my kid, who I get to see three out
of the seven days last week,and I was gonna go in late and
I'm kind of getting asked to comein early, and I worked fourteen hours
a day before that, It's like, you know what, no, man?
Yeah? And then, so howwas the reaction to that when you

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said, like, here's why I'mleaving. I'm leaving because you guys promised
that. You didn't really promise theworld you promised these two days that I
am not getting. I was aspolite as I could be. I said,
this is very because I didn't givehim any notice. That is a
little sucked up on your part.I will say that. I said to
him, Yeah, but your dad, even if I was going to work

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out a two weeks notice, Yeah, you're a dad too. Know.
I need to hurry up and finda new job. I'm not going to
spend two more weeks working there andnot find a better job so I can
dedicate ten to Funny. But Isaid, this is unprofessionally short notice of
me. This job is not whatI expected and not what we discussed.
So I will not be returning andI will not finish out the rest.
Oh okay, And so this thisbrings no into like kind of this debate.

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And I think that it is superit's it's it's true everywhere, but
I think it's super specific to serviceindustry. Is the promising of things and
not delivering. And it happens onevery single level, from dishwasher to general
manager to a regional manager to adirector. It happens up and down the

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board. That's true. And alittle bit shame on me for believing it
because even when I said I believedit, like I knew, okay,
you shocked me. Actually I didn'tmean to cut you off, but you
when you said that to me,when you when you took this job.
And we're not going to say whereit is because it actually is a really
good family. It just didn't workout, right, So yeah, no
no harm, no foul. Yeah, but I was shocked when you were
like, yeah, I have thisset schedule, it's going to be this,

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and I was like, really ina restaurant, that's crazy. But
the only reason I believed it isbecause it's I mean, it's full service,
but it's pizza. Like it's reallygood, high quality. Everything was
scra made, you know, butit's pizza. I'm like, Okay,
that's obviously manageable. All the work'sdone on the front end, it's all
prep intensive, and then it's justyou have the college kids coming at night

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and cook the pizza. Yeah.So it made models there, and it
also made sense. Like every restauranttypically, if you're the kitchen manager or
the opening manager, you do workon the line quite a bit. You
know, you might not have mighthave one person than you're helping a lot.
But I'm not a fucking opening linecook. I just I mean,
if someone calls off, do youthink it's because we're where? Because I

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feel like I would. I've donethe same. Like now I'm not in
restaurants anymore, and I feel likeI don't think barring anything crazy happening,
like not gonna worry or anything likethat. Like I don't see myself going
back, but I obviously know it'sthere if I need it. Do you
think I lost my train of thought? Bro, I don't know where you

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were going. But I was gonnaadd on to what the reason for leaving
was definitely sore of like I canbe imported, you know that, not
usually with stuff. Okay, Okay, there we go. I'll make decisions
in the moment like Okay, that'sthe last straw. I'm gonna go find

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something else. I don't It's veryunrealistic or very uncommon for me to just
go like I know, I'm fuckingdone that. One other time, it
was with Bubba's and they pissed meoff, like in an offensive way,
not even my boss, the company, like you're very offensive. So that
was a fuck you to them,and I'll say it all day that company.
But anyway, it was probably alsoa little bit the kick that I

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needed to be, Like every timeI leave a restaurant, I'm like,
that's the last, this is thelast restaurant I'm gonna sign up for and
manage and blah blah blah blah blah. So it's basically made me open up
my like what am I gonna donext? Not just go take the next
manager role, kitchen manager, roll, chef role, whatever. So I've

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applied at a bunch of replaces.I'm not even just go back to serving.
That's what really, That's what Iwas telling Shan. I was just
like, I was like, he'spretty containing. I actually already took us.
Yeah, that's why I figured youwould just serve for a little bit,
just to like, you know,because you're the type of person.
First of all, you really don'tspend money on anything, and you have
a son, and I could seeyou being okay for a while monetarily,

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but it's not the monetary thing forme. You cannot sit still, and
so no, I'm going five days. That was Saturday Wednesday. Now I
had Porter Saturday, I had himStiday, I had him Monday. So
it's busy because you're pop. YesterdayI was fucking bored. Alright, it's

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like cool, we're gonna podcast.I'm gonna do this, this, this,
this and this. Yeah, Ifelt baston. Then things happened.
No, don't feel bad. Itthe reason for why Shannon's mind everybody's way.
And then also the other thing thatthe like listener, I'm gonna say,
Jake doesn't realize this at last weekwas the last week I think when

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I was in Sandusky. I madea short snippet like five minute recap of
the six hours I spent there andsent it to you and it was really
my no, that's why. That'swhy I didn't you do anything with that.
Really, it was just like sittingon it. So it wasn't the
place. It was just like theTuesday afternoon in Sandusky. I'm not going,

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yeah, there's really there's nothing founda couple of things. I mean,
maybe we'll release it at some point, but I just thought it was
funny. Yeah, so I didthat one last night. So I was
like, I'm not gonna have aSandusky video for you this week because Porter
stayed with me Monday and then he'sjust doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday night
in Sandusky coming back to your Fridayafter school. So I don't have to
waste time killing time there. Whatabout Okay, I was like, I'll

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chat, but so really I waskind of like I'll shut like a little
bit. I'll shoot on what Ido in my free time, which is
hang out at the same place withthe same people. It was the slowest
night ever there, so it madeit even I think three of the videos
were just me like rolling my eye. Yeah, I expected like a three
minute ran and also just like thisone's only thirty seconds and it was you
just rolling your eyes and then panningthe camera around to nobody and then like

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it being trivia. You were verybig in your feelings about it being trivia.
You did not like the trivia portionof it. I typically don't go
on Tuesdays. So back to backto what we were talking about. We're
fucking bubblebees, all right. Inthe restaurant industry, though, do you
think that it's more common And itmight not be intentional, but I feel

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like it it sometimes is of sellingsomething that they're not capable of selling,
I e. What you just wentthrough. Yeah, man, it's going
to be a set schedule. Obviously, some things are going to happen.
But you know, by you knowhere in like three or four weeks,
you're going to be not working Sundaysor Mondays. No fourteen hour days.
Why is that more common? Youhave to do it, You have to

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do it a little bit. ButI think what usually happens is they want
that delivery. They want to tellyou like we do really value that our
team has quality of life, youknow, or hey, this is a
really busy restaurant, but we payreally well. So usually you can kind
of come through one way or theother. But when you try to give

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the whole package. It rarely happens, and I don't think it's like an
upfront lie. I think everybody reallybelieves that when they say it, especially
like a good director, regional typeof person. But they also think of
it from their point of view,which is like I'm home at six every
day. It might it might beI see my kids. They don't really
always think about, like, youknow, the most upfront jobs. They're

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like, hey, it's you're gonnawork sixty hours a week, but you
know your days off. We're not, yea, And it might be that.
But you've always been a glutton forpunishment though, and like that.
But that's changed, that's changed.Put your whole goddamn mouth of the mic.
I can hear you. Just fine, you don't have to turn to
it everything. It's fine. You'regonna blow my goddamn your drums out.
I'm sorry anyway, Okay, it'slike it's like perfect coming through. But

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then every time you turn it's like, I know, like, but that's
a condenser microphone. We'll go overmicrophones later, usually not over. I
have a no over go over yourlaptop to boccle, So we'll go over
that later and the fact that youand technology don't don't agree. But going
back to the restaurant thing, likeyou said, like selling at six,

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the one thing that I've noticed andthat I think is is kind of a
big issue, and this is thereason why people get promoted. And it's
definitely why I was, well,I was a kind of a k assass,
let's be honest. But you've neverbeen that. But you've got to
where you are. But you youout work anybody I know, literally anybody

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I know. Yeah, that's justwhat I That's just what my brain tells
me to do. Because nothing.You're smarter than you think, but I'm
not. That's the last compliment I'mgonna give you to day. But the
the that's what I think, that'swhere I think it lies is you.
I remember watching you when we wereat when we were at the other place,
and when we worked together, andit was very obvious to me that

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you could shut your fucking brain offand work fourteen hours, go get wasted,
and then do it all the nextday. But you're yeah, on
two hours asleep and sadly, Dadnow and we're older, and it's it's
kind of like, I like,do I really want to do that.
Jumping back to the like me makingfun of myself saying I'm not that smart.

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What I meant by that is likeI've never wanted to play the fucking
climb the ladder game. Like ifyou're this person likes fucking Penn State,
So if every tien to there youtalked about you're not gonna politicking. You
don't politics for I don't want todo that. Yeah, I don't.
I don't even vote, Like hateme if you want, I would be
the worst person to vote. Youguys, I fucking don't pay attention my

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ideas about what we should do orprobably right, but they're never gonna happen,
so fuck it. But I mean, like, yeah, I'm just
like, okay, if I'm notgoing to play the game and I have
to just I just have to fuckingwork, that's why. Well, and
then you have and I've seen it, and like I think that's like how
successful you are. But I admireyou for being like old Matt would have

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just kept going until the fucking breaksfell off or you got pissed off to
a point where you said some stuff. I'm proud of you for just being
like guys, Yeah, this isa little professional because of the notice,
not because of the way I'm deliveringit. But this is not what I
was promised. I can't do thisanymore. I'm so sorry, whatever whatever.
Yeah, And I literally wasn't goingto spend two like I'm not gonna

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go in to have a conversation,so they can try to play that like,
no, it's just cut ties rightnow, best off, you're gonna
have a rough Saturday. So Ithink I think a lot of it just
go without me. Yeah, Ithink a lot of it too, is
going back to that that selling thing. I was always in a position and
I still am. You know,I have I have people that are on

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to me. But but the Ihave yeah I have, I haven't I
have employees that that that that Ihave direct reports, right and when I
I've only had to hire one person. And I remember being very very vocal
about the bad things. And Idon't think restaurants really do that, especially

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by the time you're hiring managers,because I feel like it's a given,
like, oh, you already knowthat this is bullshit. You already know
that, like in a perfect world, you'll be home by six if you
open, But you know you knowthat that's probably not going to happen or
it's rare, you know, likewith restaurants that happens like more and more
and more and more. And I'mtrying to go back and think about all
that stuff. My job back atLonghorn, I mean we both we didn't

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hire, We didn't interview for thatjob. We were yeah, we knew,
we already knew, but Cooper stokI had no idea Cooper Stalk.
I had my fucking clue. YeahI did job. Just don't hear your
microphone. Yeah I almost did.What was I gonna say? Oh yeah?
We would bring in new managers andlike they wouldn't. They wouldn't really
give them the spiel of like ohyou could be you know, in and

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out of here if you open atthis time of that time, but they
would. I had a lot ofpeople get mad at me, like every
time you come in you leave itthree thirty is like I walk on the
fucking door and I don't stop untilthree thirty. Well, I walk in.
I would always get down with myI would get down with my polls
and my cuts by like one tothirty, make sure that the place isn't
burning oh, I would be donewith that ship Saturday time we fuck out

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of here. The last two out. Well maybe I was kind of Saturday,
maybe noon, maybe one, butI mean on a week we're open.
Like if you want to fuck youalso cut salmon and right byes a
lot better than me. It tookme a while. Let mean, I
did that, but I did itfor so long. After eight years of
doing it, like new manage wouldcome in be like you just always gonna
leave at three and not five,Like, well, yeah, if there's
nothing to do, you're here,like you're turning to fucking do it.

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I'm not gonna sit around for twohours. Yeah, that's that's always like
that. I always used to lovethat when certain people would I think that
there's well that's the thing. Wedon't protect ourselves very well, and we
didn't back then. I did whenI was a server. I remember throwing
a fit when I was at Longhornwhen I got sat at table at like
three fifty nine and Amanda Yates wasn'ton yet, and and I was like,

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I'm not fucking giving that table.I remember Becky and Jeremy being so
pissed at the brew Sisters because They'relike, why the fuck did you hire
this guy? He's such a prick, he's lazy. And I was like,
no, I'm sucking out of here, and she's like, well,
there's no outimes. I was like, I've been here since ten. This
is one table with two people.There's four servers waiting to go on.
Even though they go on at four, I'm not fucking taking the table.
I'll fucking read them for you.I'll get them. I was labeled,

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but I think that, yeah,there's I mean you said we didn't protect
our That was the last time becauseI was labeled. I was labeled with
a bad ass shoe at that point. So then I was just like,
whatever you guys wanted me to do, I'll do it because that means I'm
a good teammate. I guess Iget that. Yeah, I get that.
I got the opposite of that.So like, even though I never

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liked the the political game, especiallyin that restaurant, I so often got
labeled as a favorite. You didyour job, just did the job and
got a pet in the back.But then I'd be like, I don't
want to pat in the back,like you guys didn't see him shove a
fucking shrimp skewer in my back backthere, like I get, I get
the ass kicking that none of youget, and I just put up with
it. So they like they knowI can take a punt, so it's
fine. Well, I told usthe one thing that he always told us,

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and that's why he treats everybody sodifferent. You do people with disservice
if you treat them differently, andand that's and that's just in the in
work mode, Like I treat everybodythe same out socially if I don't know
you, but I'm not gonna yellor coach one person the same way I
coach another person. That's it.And it's true to that day. And
he taught me that. But I'mgoing back to the lying thing and it's

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not necessarily. I think maybe it'sa liave ole mission and it happens,
it happens more. Yeah, everybodywants to go. So my big thing
and I always would do this andI was lied to a Cooper's Hawk and
we'll get into that one. Butthe biggest one that I would always say
is I would lay it out rightfrom the beginning. You know why,
because I am not going to gothrough the four or five weeks of training

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your ass, you realizing that whatI said was bullshit, Like, oh,
yes, you you'll be able toget days off whatever, whatever,
and then fucking quit and then I'mright back to where I started. I
would always lay it out, Hey, this is a fucking restaurant. You're
working Saturdays, you're working Sundays,You're working this will there be days off?
Yeah, you gotta request it off. That's totally fine, but you

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know not probably not for the firstlike two two three months if you're new,
Like that's a that's a seniority thing. Sometimes if you have a vacation
plan. I'm not going to bea dickhead. But if we need to
service this, we got to doit the best way we can. Yeah,
And like back to that last jobagain, sort of shame on me.
I didn't apply for that job.They found me, and I was
like, oh, I didn't knowyou got hit on it. I had
no idea. Yeah, they foundme, asked me to come in give

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him the whole thing. I waslike, all right, if that's what
your father take it. The wayI'm interviewing now is so it's like,
but the bullshit what's the pay,what are the hours? I need this
time off? Can you do it? If not, I'll go fucking fine
something. I'll literally go wait tables. I'll come in at four, I'll
leave at ten. I'll turn yourmic down again. But I agree turn
your mic down again a little bit. If you want me to be the

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guy, that's the thing, that'sthe that's the thing that and then that
you just hit the nail on thehead. For me. It was like,
and this is what I mean byprotecting yourself a little bit. If
you want me to be this personfor you, this is what I can
offer. If that's not going towork for you, I can go somewhere
else. There's a labor shortage rightnow, especially in the service thing.
I'm sure you've got a serving job, like in two seconds. But it

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was the saddest interview. Why wasit sad? Met the guy and he's
like because he didn't interview me.And I think he was intimidated because he's
like, looking at your resume,you've been doing this while I was like,
yeah, eighteen years mostly management.I don't want to manage anymore,
so I just kind of want towait tables. He's like all right.
So I was like, I canbring in two forms of IDA on Thursday

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if you want to do. He'slike, Okay, when we get off
of this, you're gonna have totell me where that is because that's that's
awesome, because I mean, andyou garner that respect though, I mean,
you haven't been You've been in thisindustry for eighteen years. I mean,
when's the last time you well,I guess technically when you were managing,
you help serve tables and the tabletouches and stuff. But the last
time you serve was it? Thatwas the one thing I said. I
was like, just so you know, I haven't like Easy Street was the
last place, right, I've doneit? Yeah, I mean I did

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a little bit here and they're like, might have to take a full table
or two from time to time withPonghorn or wherever. Easy Street was the
last Like all I'm doing is servingjob, and that was that's crazy,
well, going back, going back, Yeah, but yeah, it was
kind of like just fucking ran overthis dude. And I think at the
end of it was like I'm socle right. Well, it's it's it's

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kind of crazy to think about thatpart of it. Because I remember there
were not intimidation is not the wrongword. I wasn't intimidated. I was
just kind of like, why isthis person here and what are their motives?
Because they don't really belong here.They are qualified, over qualified,
but if they're telling me they justwant to serve, yeah, all right,

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let's go like there's nothing wrong withthat at all. So I have
a I have two things. One, I have a reverse of that story
with the servant job. But totouch on the servant job again, if
I was that guy interviewing me,I would have been questioning, right,
because like, how long are youplanning to do this? Everyone? Like
people, there's fucking everywhere, right, so I know what I'm saying.

(26:32):
Like, I would have been likeway more questioning, like hey, if
you just want a servant job,that's fine, but you know, give
me more than this is what I'mgoing to work and win. So then
I also just left an interview witha grocery store. Yeah you texted me,
I'm not gonna say it. AndI met with their like general manager,
a store leader person, and Ididn't even know what position I had

(26:56):
applied for because I was just onIndeed, oh you're making it rain,
you're making the easy button. Yeah, And he sent he sent me a
thing and I went in and startedtalking to him, and he was a
director for a company and a managerand a GM and everything. And we're
going through each other's background. It'slike, oh, yeah, we know
this person and that person blah blahblah. So he's like, so this

(27:18):
job that you applied for, it'spretty good money. It's like twenty four
hours an hour. It starts atthree am and you get out at noon.
And I was like, oh,hold on, man, I'm sorry.
I want to waste your time.I can't do that. He's like,
no, shit, I don't wantyou to do that. You're way
overqualified for this. Like why didyou apply for this job? It was
the first one that fucking came up. And I don't know if I want
to go back to restaurants. He'slike, oh, So then we had

(27:41):
a side conversation that I probably cannothave. He's like, we're not going
to have you apply for this job. And then we talked about something else
and he's like, go home,do this, do that, And that's
that's somebody. Yeah, I know, because I almost blew it off.
I was like, I gotta wanta podcast, not fucking walk into something.
But I think that that that's that'salso the mark of a good leader.

(28:04):
I think is is somebody that noticeslike hey, but clearly this.
Yeah, he was kind of likeif you but you would be qualified for
this thing, and like I needsomebody and we know each other kind of
through the grape vine, like let'ssee what we can do. Like,
yeah, well he was smart.He can't hire for that job technically,

(28:25):
I don't even know if it's forhis location. He's like, don't do
this, like it's why so youcan work up to the thing. Well,
I also think it's cool that you'relike, you're explaining too, but
going back, we keep going awayfrom it with the lying, so the
serving. Yeah, we're actually doinga pretty good job of tying things together.

(28:45):
He could that guy could have fedme into and I admire him for
that. To start here, we'regonna get this fucking workhorse that's gonna blow
this job out of the water andmake mild for cheap for a while,
cheap. And he didn't. Hecut he cut the ship. It's like
I wouldn't want someone to do medoing that for cheap as well as like
it's crazy, like yeah, goodfor good on him for not for not

(29:08):
like saying like taking advantage as well. Plus you're yeah, there was a
lot of mutual respect things. They'renot just restaurant industry. Like also a
single dad also was in the restaurantindustry for like twenty one years. Kept
trying to find the way out.But this is the thing. If like
it translates, you'll get it.I have a I have a this might

(29:30):
get too and it's like that's somethingwe try not to do on the podcast.
I knew you were don't fucking saythat. I knew. I don't
even know why I said it.I fucking knew you were going to say
it. But anyway, let mefinish my thought. What fucking child,
I don't God damn it now Iforgot what I was gonna say. Do

(29:52):
fuck you like I can't. Whatwas I gonna say? What were you
you were saying it was good,it was gonna get too deep. You
didn't want to overstep. We're talkingabout him basically not buying, which a
lot of people do it. Maybeeven something the fact that we had similar
like you know, both single dadsboth. Yeah, it goes back to

(30:15):
yeah, that's the thing is.It goes back to you know, any
old person knowing that there that there'sa labor shortage and see somebody that's willing
to do something and just says yesautomatically does not do anybody a service.
But somebody who sees something that ispotentially has something greater going on and says,
hey, you should probably do this. Let me know your thoughts.
That's somebody that i'd want to workfor, because that's somebody that develops,

(30:38):
you know. And yeah, Immediatelyfor me, I was like, I
mean, yeah, that's what youthink, and you've done this and you're
happy. Even if his mind hemight be thinking, well I might not
get you, but I remembering somebody, you know, I remember. Now,
good for everybody. Okay, thereyou go, because I kind of
thought you were. But thank youfor like letting me get there. Maybe

(31:00):
I'll cut that out. But theso it sounds like I'm like superl got's
the point I lost my train ofthought again. No, but I'm just
kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, petty. So this isn't meant to
be dark. But you said somethingand it was a phrase that kind of
like rung out to me was thisguy was in restaurants for twenty one years
and got out, and I'm tryingto get out. I think a majority

(31:26):
of people think that way, andI think that a majority of people think
that this is this is something thatis not necessarily a trap. But you
can't really get out of it thateasily. You have to like set yourself
up. Yeah, and when peopleand to the people that don't really understand

(31:48):
that is if you're like Matt andmyself. I don't have a college degree.
Matt doesn't have a college degree.We found ourselves at these restaurants just
doing nothing above and beyond, justdoing things that our parents taught us.
It's basically just work ethic. Youjust have to have a work ethic anywhere
you go. No, not kissingass, just just do your job the

(32:13):
best of your best of your abilityand have a good attitude while doing it.
And we started climbing these ladders overand over and over and over again,
and you know, you get toa point where it's like, Okay,
I could do this with my fuckingeyes shut. I literally could do
this with my eyes shut. Icould run end of day, shut the
computers off, lock the doors,and I'm back here tomorrow. We're back

(32:34):
here in a couple of days,and I'll do it all over again.
It doesn't make any difference to mewhatsoever. That is why people fall into
it, and that's why it's hardto get out of because you make good
money, but at what costs.It's the time, it's the schedule,
it's all that stuff. Sort ofsort of funny, like definitely a side

(32:54):
note at the pizza place, Likethis kid, like I said, it's
his fucking passion, it's his dream. He's gonna turn it into a great
thing. It's gonna he's gonna havethings about it too. I've I've read
reviews. Yeah, like I said, he's a hard working kid. I
respect him. If I was twentysix, I'd be right by his side
whatever. But it was so fuckingadorable because the first time, like I'm

(33:21):
a kitchen manager. But it's likemost places, you know, you have
to sometimes close. We'll time youopen or working mid sometimes you have to
close. And he's like, allright, I'm gonna close with you to
night so you can see how itgoes. Okay, Okay, maybe there's
something I don't know about. Atthe end of the night, he's like,

(33:44):
he's like, we're gonna have tocount the money and we're gonna have
to do all this stuff and runthe end of the day. And I'm
like all right. He's like,we have to go through all these comps
and do you know what a compand avoid is? And I was like
yeah, He's like, can youtell me the difference? Like sure?
So did he even reads? Idon't think so, Like he's doing his

(34:06):
dude, yeah, especially I wouldn'tassume that everybody knows, you know,
like he takes it very probably takesvery person and it's his fucking money,
so like he wants to know whereit's going. But I was just cracking
up. He's like, now we'regoing to count the drawer down, Like
like all right to what He's like, Oh no, you just take all

(34:27):
the money out and count it.He didn't even count. He didn't even
count down. I was like,do you want I said, what do
you want me to count it down? Like do you want one hundred,
two hundred, three hundred? Whatdo you mean? Like how much money
do you want left in the drawer? He's like oh no, we take
all of it out, count itand put it in in the thing,
and then the way he works inthe morning does that. I was like,
oh, that's cool, that's supereasy. He's like, yeah,

(34:50):
why, I was like, becausenormally you do all of that at night
and then do the deposits. Youcount it. Yeah, you count all
the drawers down to two hundred.You make sure that all the bar yeah,
everybody, you make sure the barit sounded too higher box, and
then you cross compare it to yourend of day. Make sure that your
deposits where it's supposed to be,and then that's it. There's literally a
slip but tells you how much moneyyou're supposed to have. I was like

(35:10):
asking him questions that we're blowing hismind. He's like, I've never thought
of that. I love that,but but that yeah, we literally had
a I did a longhorn thing therethat I think shook the entire restaurant,
which to me was just like,obviously we had a fucked up pizza and
he's like, Oh, let's geta new one going. This one isn't

(35:30):
you know, like up to mystandard. Take it in the back for
everybody to eat it. It's like, hey, do you ever like,
go to the table, bring himthe pizza, tell him it's not what
we like, but I don't wantyou to wait to eat. So here's
this, and we're gonna make youa better one. He's like, oh,
maybe you should because then you haveto wait thirty more minutes for a

(35:52):
pizza. He's like, oh mygod, we're gonna start doing that because
you're wasting the money. You're avoidingthe sale out like they you could give
him the fucking yeah, so youcan give him a pet. So they
probably don't even fucking know the difference. It's not like, well it depends
on how bad it was. Theydon't know that it's not the right stretch.
Yeah, but it was like it'snot stretched. I don't know.
I didn't really care that much.Honestly, it's like you get ready,

(36:12):
I order a pizza, give goingback. Yeah. It was just like
light bulb went off and like,oh god, I've been doing this since
I was like twenty three years,going back to going back to yeah,
going back to the getting out part. Right, Yeah, I do think
that's a yeah about for about atall. I want to I want to

(36:34):
preface it by saying that I respecteverybody that works that that are what we
call him lifers, right, Likewe know we know plenty of lifers we
and you know they don't they don'twant to the happiest so happy because of
the reason that I just said.He wants because of the reasons I want
to get out because of the reasonthat I just said, which was me
and you like, hey, youyou show up, you you know,

(36:58):
you run your end of day,you lock the doors, then you do
it all again. There's there's nothingin your brain the second you leave that
restaurant. More often than not,you're not working on a project or you
don't carry the day. That isthe one thing talking to my wife that
I actually miss a great deal andup the people that are still in that
like because I we carry our dayswith us all the time. I might
carry my day. I mean likewe had a couple of shitty days last

(37:20):
week where I work and I carriedit like I brought it home like I
was mad the entire day and stressedout about it. Than go back and
do I'll tell you what I don'tdon't. Yeah, And it's hard for
me to not do that because Iknow that I'm going right back to that
same problem the next day. That'snot true in restaurants unless it's like something
like insanely crazy. But well,what flipped for me was I don't do

(37:42):
that after work anymore. Like weused to get out of work, go
to the bar. We're gonna bitchabout work for a couple of hours before
we're feeling good. Then we're gonnaswitch the goofing around. Now it's like
I'm out the door. I don'tcare for the rest of the day.
But what does get me is Iget at up like six, if I
don't work until ten for four hours, I'm like, I already know what

(38:06):
shit I'm gonna probably walk into.That's where it gets worse. It's not
the oh god, it's over,but I can't believe that happened. It's
like, what am I about towalk into it? Yeah? And that's
that that part to me, likesucks like you. But also when you
talk about lifers and stuff and wecan have we can have them on the
show again, we can start havingguests again. Maybe, but like,
I respect the fuck out of everysingle person that does that because you get

(38:30):
shipped on almost daily by Karen's andwhat do we call the male Karen,
I can't remember. Richards is there? Dicks? Yeah, like you gotta
carry that with you. But atthe same time, it's just like fuck
man, like I don't want todo this anymore, like I want to
be able to And you know whenit started it usually I think it's yeah,

(38:55):
when my wife detached and I Ijust stopped out. Yeah, then
you didn't have a two household ofthe same bullshit going on. I just
stopped out and saw Jimmy. Theday after I quit out there, I
was like, fucking apply some placesand I was in Mommy, So I
stopped in Psalm, and you knowhow he was. He'd carry with him

(39:15):
before he got there the whole timehe was there afterwards until three hours after
work. He was when he wasin a bad mood. Now he's somehow
in the last couple of years,has hit that stride. He's like,
I just come in work as hardas I can, and at three or
four whatever time, he's like,when I leave, that's it, I
don't fucking care anymore. Just comeback and do it the next day.

(39:38):
And he's like my mom or Ithink he's his mom was next or he's
like, my mom doesn't feel stressedfrom me. My wife doesn't feel like
I'm stressed. It gets just ajob, show up, do it,
go home. So somehow eventually youget there. I think that's usually not
seniorly. Yeah, and that's whatI wonder he's not. I wonder if

(39:59):
if I would ever got to thatsenior leadership role, like the regional or
something like that, you know,because we have you know, Tyler tried
to do that. Tyler tried towork at like home office for Darden and
shit, and like all it it'sso it's so it's so hard. It's
so hard to do because of thepolitics, because of the politics, and
like also something that you just said, he also doesn't have a college degree.

(40:20):
Like you could be dog shit atyour job with a degree and just
work for a company like that forfive years, and like there's an opening
if you want to apply, likeeither counting or any kind of financial degree.
There's you know, they didn't wantpeople, Like that's the thing,
Like and when you say people likeus, people would know what agrees and
people that started from the bottom ofnow or here, and it don't mean

(40:44):
and like true restaurant dogs like theydon't want them, and like you want
to corrupt a corporate office, bringme in there, even if I'm super
qualified, Like I feel like Ididn't be okay, I feel like you'd
be all right with you could,But I think that you'd get so bored
saying at a desk that you wouldlose your fucking mind, like you,

(41:05):
I would antagonize. I don't thinkwould get done. I antagonized, would
not get done. Like no onehere's the thing. My work would get
done super quick because it'd be theeasiest fucking thing I've ever done. No
one else's job would get done becauseI would be bothering going go, let's
keep let's shift, fucking there's areport, let's send it. Act like
that took eight hours today? HeyLisa, Yeah, Like, aren't done

(41:32):
going seven lunch break? Fuck off? There's there's why there's life way out
there. Well because people don't likethat. I mean, like, if
it if you're gonna be bored bysomething, if you're gonna be bored by
something, right, if you're goingto be bored by sitting in an office,
don't do it. Just don't doit. Like so the people that

(41:52):
like I couldn't see Kristen's sitting inan office. Can you see Kristens sitting
in an office? I can't seeNo Christen's and level drives. The woman
doesn't stop. She doesn't stop.God bless her. Yeah, but Jesus,
she's just go go go, go, go go go. You said
I was go go go on thelast night, like she is, go
go, go, go go goall the time. Her snap doesn't She's

(42:14):
the original reason I went back tothat bar to hang out, because she's
super entertaining, but also like twominutes of her we love you, Kristen.
I hope you don't listen to thatpart. I know that she doesn't.
She talks to me less than anybodythere because she knows, all right,
two beters in, he's just gonnasit there, be quiet. Now,
So was it go into h let'slet's let's talk about like we'll end

(42:37):
the lying debate? Well, wewere gonna well, I was gonna say,
we didn't really finish. So Ithink everybody, though, that does
reach that senior leadership role that Iknow at this point, if you don't
get the director job, if youdon't get somewhat out of operations, I
think everybody that I know is like, don't it's sort of the same thing

(42:58):
that operations time like ten then yeah, I bought into it the most kind
of But you're not like you're mostlyon your even if you're in the restaurant,
you're on laptop. Probably get bypeople love you more. And that's
true of any that's true of anyjob. Made it like you got you
got the one of forty jobs.There's only forty of them. You got
it. I think that's true ofany you're there for twenty years, that's

(43:19):
true of any job. But it'salso it's more to me, it's more
prevalent in restaurants. It's to me, it's more prevalent restaurants because of the
mix. I guess this the mixof people that you have going for the
mix of managers that you have.I mean, I've been managers with there's
I mean, I've been managers withpeople that are, you know, recovering

(43:42):
drug addicts. I've been managers withpeople there's active drug addicts. I've been
managers with people that have like accountingdegrees, which is accountings boring, and
I want to like they're kind oflike you. They're like I can't sit
at a desk all day. Iwanted to fucking be on my feet like
like those there. And then there'speople, dude, that was my college
account, and there's people like uslike you just you know, hey,

(44:05):
we served so we could pay thebills. But then like, oh fuck,
we're actually kind of good at thisship. We gotta let's make more
money while we can. And thenjust you're kind of there, you know,
and then I shifted pay scale.Doesn't that's also true like it does
Mike. In a position of yours, there's not work hard and you make
a little more money every year.But yeah, so think think about this,

(44:27):
listener. So you know, youget you work your fucking tail off,
you get really promoted, and I'mgonna throw numbers out here, and
it's not it's not what I made, it's not what Matt made, it's
not what anybody made. But I'mjust like, this is like an average
I'm looking at it on the screenright now. So you you work at
minimum wage less minimum wage as aserver, you're making tips and all that
stuff. You're making like I don'tknow, a thousand bucks a week whatever,

(44:50):
whatever, You work your ass off, and they're like you're gonna be
a manager. You're gonna be salaried, all right, which you'd already know
is at least forty hours a weekmost of the time. It's sixty to
seventy. Yeah, usually tell yousixty to seventy if you're lucky. That's
if you're lucky. Especially, theytell you ta ten. They give you

(45:13):
fifty grand, they give you fiftygrand, fifty five let's say, fifty
five, fifty five grand before taxes. Okay, before taxes, all right,
you are not getting You may geta bonus. Your bonus is going
to be about a percent of that, like five hundred, six hundred bucks,
sometimes a thousand, yeah, depending, And that's if you if you

(45:35):
hit all the metrics for that restaurant, which again you do not have a
direct like line into making sure thatsucceeds. It's your whole management team,
and if one of them doesn't givea shit, you're fucked. Second,
you get your merit bonuses, andyour merit bonuses are never more than two
to three percent. So you werestuck at this level making only two percent
more for five six, seven years, and there is nothing above you.

(45:59):
There's nowhere you can go that's aboveyou. There's nothing that you can do
minus moving. You can move goto it like and I'm speaking generally of
a giant corporate restaurant, like aLonghorn. You can move and they will
pay for you to move, andthey will give you a bump and pay
because not because you're good, butit's cost of living. If you move

(46:20):
from Toledo to Orlando, Florida,cost a living increase here you go.
Has nothing to do with how youdo your job. It's exactly and it's
gonna end up being the same amountof money. But here's the thing.
You're at. Okay, Hey,you're at fifty five, you get all
this stuff, you get ten yearsdown the road, you're making like sixty
three to sixty four thousand dollars.Hey, you're gonna move down to Orlando,
all right, We'll cost living isa little bit more expensive down there.

(46:42):
We're gonna give you seventy two.Hey, I want to go back
to Ohio. Oh keep it thesame. But there are some people that
are like, well, we're gonnatake yeah, yeah, so they can't.
That's the way that you have tolike make more money. If you're
working at one of these big places, because you're not going to go up.
Like to Turner's point when he saidthat there's forty people, there are
forty regions in that company, thedirectors or whatever. Yeah, and their

(47:07):
salaries are good, but I meangood is like maybe one twenty and then
a really like a way, butyou have some guess at that point.
But again, you're not in controlof that. And it's if all of
your restaurants and all those people aredoing their I'm not just guaranteed to make
another eighty grand a year. Becauseso that's why a lot of people believe

(47:27):
because there's a ceiling. That's whyone of our good friends left. That's
what Tyler left. Like there there'sa ceiling. There's a ceiling of what
you can make and what you Yeah, and that poor kid believes he really
did. He thought that he wasan He thought he was gonna be the
vice president of the garden. Buthey, like yeah he was. The
dream is there that when you realizehow hard it is and you actually do
the numbers of how many people areunder that umbrella and how many people actually

(47:51):
go for that job, and like, yeah, I'll break it down that
there's forty of that director probably,and then there's six people above them,
and then CEO CFL like then there'sonly four. So there's less than fifty
of those. There's about there's tenthousand employees. Yeah, ten thousand employees

(48:17):
restaurants. Yeah, that's a lotteryship. That's lottery ship, and it's
and you can work your fucking assoff. But that's why people get discouraged.
I think that's what I mean.I didn't get discouraged ever. I
knew that I was never. Idid it as a necessity, that's what.
Yeah, exactly, they have tosell you on the dream because the

(48:38):
presidents at one time literally did startthat was in the eighties. Though a
lot of people that are in thoserules I know. But a lot of
people in those rules really are,you know. But they sell stories and
this is true of everything, Thisis true everybody. They also all have
college. Well they also went tocollege. All were probably while they're working

(48:59):
at any Yeah, they also wereprobably not the best at in the rest
they were. I tell people this. I tell dishwashers this ship all the
time. If you don't want tobe a dishwasher, don't be the best
fucking dishwasher, be the worst dishwashermovie is something I fucking hate doing it.
I loved it twice. I lovedit because I just got to sit

(49:22):
in the tank, put my airpods in and just like not that was
before air pods were invited, myheadphones in and just listen to music.
That was before podcasts too, werereally big. I would just listen to
listen to like Guster or like eightstraight Hours. But that again, that
so that that dream, that dreamis rare and and and like, but

(49:45):
you inflate those you inflate and thenwe do it at our We do it
at our company too. Like thecompany that I worked for that carries over
from dishwashers too, carrious in themanagers are good. Buddy who was a
managing partner for that company was wifeare yeah JP. And if he wasn't

(50:07):
so good at that, maybe,you know, he would have got promoted
faster. And I don't know,but they every want to move him up.
And when he finally did, hereally wasn't ready because you know,
he was wanted to stay in thatrole that he had. He just wanted
more money. So yeah, andthe and that's like that that that's where
the economics come into play right andlike you, Hey, I'm not going
to give you this because I knowthat, hey, you're not going to

(50:28):
go anywhere and be you know,like we know that you're settled here,
so we can afford to pay youthis because we're we know that you're not
going to go anywhere. And that'sI think that's why that where that turnover
comes in. And I'm so likefocused on retention now where I'm at,
and retention listener is just like makingsure people stay when you hire them,
obviously, and that's that's why I'mso real about it. Hey, this

(50:53):
job, you're gonna get shipped ona lot, You're gonna get yelled at
a lot for stuff that's not yourfault. But that's what the job.
Job is, like, you justhave, that's just what you have to
do. You're dealing with me,I'm a dick, Like you're gonna have
to hear about it and it's notgonna be Hey, I really wish that

(51:15):
truck wasn't five hours late. Itwould have been like I've called you eighteen
fucking times, I'll go pick itup myself. Tell me where it is.
If you tell somebody that has thejob that you're talking about that every
day, they're gonna get nice nono. And it's that's why I'm like
so strict and so not strict,but like so open about the bad parts.

(51:37):
If you can sell the worst partsof any job and somebody still wants
to do it, that's on themat that point. I never want to
be in a position where I hiresomeone and they come to me just like
your situation and say, hey,I'm done. This isn't what you sold
me. I'm done, Like that'sthe word I'm done today. You know.

(52:00):
That's like my worst nightmare, youknow, And so I always want
it to be. I'm super openwith my people like hey, this is
gonna be, this is gonna suck, and I say embrace the suck all
the time. Now it's just sayhey, embrace the suck because it's coming.
It's fucking coming. It's coming,Like it's you know, you gotta
do whatever. Yep. I havethat depending on what position I'm hiring for,

(52:23):
Like especially at the brewery, Ireally food runners, like I've never
worked in a restaurant before, ormaybe you had a food running job somewhere
else, and I'd be like,all right, this part of your interview
is you're gonna fucking like you're gonnafollow me around and see what this is
what you have to do, andit's like upstairs downstairs, Yeah, that
build out is huge. I forgot. You're not gonna mosey around and fuck

(52:44):
off like this isn't Yeah, wedon't, we don't a lot ten we
don't know, we don't a lotten minutes and make a TikTok and the
haunted part of the restaurant that's notgonna happen. Yeah, And like I'm
like, the dining room isn't rightout the door. It's also back there
and over here and down here.So you better understand coming into this this
isn't an easy job. It's alsonot the most high packing, so that's

(53:07):
what you want to do. Well. I think that was a great conversation
because I think it is more truthfulanywhere everybody lies, Like there's no getting
around that. As far as whenyou're hiring somebody because you're selling a story,
you're selling how good it is towork here, how great, how
great we are, all these chancesfor advancement. I feel like the lying,
or the lies of omission or theoverselling come in the restaurants more than

(53:30):
any other industry anywhere. Yeah,I think you hit it right. There
is less lying. Yeah, Imean, oh you could do this.
You can do this, but we'renot going to tell you that you got
to work a Saturday Sunday for fourteenhours. But hey, at least you
get labor day off. Like it'slike it's but it's also what we this

(53:51):
sorry to the general part. It'salso kind of what we do to the
general party. Like we've talked about, you know, proceive. Yeah,
it's like, hey, here's yeah, sort of what we're good at.
It's sort of what we're good at, Like, yeah, look at this
is gonna be the best thing.Of course, we want you to get
this four ounce steak and three piecesof rice in a potato. Yeah,

(54:15):
it's such a good fucking deal.I can't believe you're gonna pass it on.
So don't save that shrimp and takeit home and the microwave it because
you will get sick. Yeah.Actually, it's my sort of general thought
unless I'm ordering carry out, likeI don't take I stopped doing it because
we always threw them away. Butthe only time I do it now is

(54:35):
if if it's say, if it'ssteak, and usually I eat. I
finished my steak. But when Igot that fucking tomahawk, fucking steak from
Jeff Ruby, I wasn't eating thatwhole thing, Like there was no way.
But I was like, well,I'm I'm not fucking even this here.
Here's the only thing about that sortof shame on. You don't order
a fucking tomahawk yourself. It wasit was order food. I it was

(55:00):
our anniversary, it was our fiveyear anniversary. But when you take it
home and reheat it, it's notbled. It's good. Yeah, I
borrowed it. I wasn't gonna throwa hundred and twenty dollars in micro dude,
i'd honestly, and he might rathereat it. Yeah, and then
this almost never reheat meat anymore?Can we? Because we're wrapping up here,

(55:23):
I want to I want to tellJake our listener, how bad you
are a technology real quick. I'venever so. First of all, I
was super proud of you. Sowe've been we we've Turner visited a couple
of months ago and then again afew weeks ago. No, we're not
live. I'm just saying, listener, I'm just saying, listeners, listen.

(55:45):
He's the only one that I know. Can I guarantee you right now
he's probably mowing his lawn and heactually he actually did. He told me
because we called out Lex in thein the last episode and he ran into
the house and said, hey,Matt and Will are talking about you.
And she was like, you're fuckingstupid, like just kind of like shrugged
it off. But I was soproud of you. You you. You

(56:10):
came here like a month ago,you came back a couple, a couple
of weeks ago, a few weeksago, recorded a bunch of shit like
Hey, I'm gonna order a laptop. I was like, yeah, man,
like our sched and this is backwhen we thought that that the new
job was going to give you theschedule to like so we could start doing
this again. And I was like, dude, awesome, Bett, let's
go. Let's do it one hundredpercent. And you send me a link

(56:32):
with a Lenovo think pad it seesthis any good? And that's what you
said, is this any good?And before I could look at it,
you said bought it and there wasone left and it was fifty percent off
because it was like a two yearold model because it's just think pad.
I was like, well, Ijust fucking laptop. Well, it's gonna

(56:55):
work for what you needed to do. It wasn't a fifteen hundred dollars.
Oh no, I didn't want youto get a MacBook. I wanted you
to get you like a four hundreddollar HP thing. It's either way,
it doesn't matter. It has alittle memory. We guess what, we're
podcasting right now. We're podcasting rightnow. We're fine. I know it's
just it's slow. Yeah, butand I know for a fact I'll have

(57:15):
to bring it. Oh no,I know I have to like that.
That was gonna be my next thingwhen I shared my screen. Yeah,
when I come up to Toledo atsome point, I'll just come over to
your house because I also it's drivingme nuts that the don't touch your microphone
right now, but the shock armon your don't touch it. But the
shock arm on your microphone's fucked up, and I've been noticed, don't touch

(57:37):
it. I notice not. No, not the cover of the actual the
rubber bands around the actual shock mountare off. Don't talk. I couldn't
figure it out yesterday. No,I couldn't figure it out after you had
to go attend to your stuff yesterday. I looked at it for yeah,
i'll fix that and i'll fix theother thing. So we'll make sure that
your audio sounds Chris, because thevoice meter banana thing. But either way,

(58:00):
explaining electronics to you was like theworst, Like technology was the worst
experience, Like you couldn't We're usinga new system now too, so this
could sound like shit. That's thething is. I don't know what the
final record. It could sound fuckingterrible. I'm gonna call this out just
not against you. Every time werecord. Every time, and I know

(58:25):
you get so I get excited becauseyou're like this will be at because I
want things to be easier. Solike right now we're recording and on this
website and then like it's local recordwhatever, nobody gives a fuck. But
it's also so we could put stuffon TikTok and like a lot easier.
But either way, you and technologyis not great. We'll see, we'll

(58:47):
see supposedly everything that I read thisis supposed to after we get done,
after we click end recording, it'sgonna spit out two audio files and I
can edit yours to make you soundgood, and then edit mind makes both
sound the same, and do whatever. That's that's the that's the goal.
That's the goal. Actually happened.I don't know, but if it makes

(59:10):
less work for you and I actuallycan't wait though, so I'm titling.
Other than that, go ahead,I mean, I call this what you
want. I'm going to continue tocall it a laptop. No, it's
I'm just bullshitting. I bought thisfor you, not for me. I'm
going to use anything else, whichyour phone I don't have secure? I

(59:30):
don't wait. What kind of pornare you looking at that You need security,
don't you? I just feel like, yeah, in two thousand and
seven, this is this is twentytwenty three. Man, Just use a
website like no, I'm just saying, like, I don't know, it
doesn't have a security software. Doesn'tit going to rubb into my bang?
No? No, no, agirl shoving a watermelon uper vagina or something,

(59:54):
who knows? Oh god, that'stamely for Reddit. We're at an
hour, we're at we're in anhour, We're at an hour already.
We'll uh, I'm gonna entitle this. I'm gonna I'm gonna title this Matt
quit. I'm gonna that's good clickbaby stuff. But anyway, say bye

(01:00:15):
Matt. Yeah, I'm Matt.Damn it spelled a beer