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July 15, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome home, back to Investing in Trading Lives sponsored by
Trading Academy. As always, I am your host, Josh Lillloquist.
On the last segment, get a quick market overview or.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
We'll call it updated.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Obviously, we have airline stocks soaring. We'll talk about that
here on this segment, with especially with Delta. Bitcoin obviously
is probably all over the news. Observe everybody's seeing their
memes everywhere and their Insta face and their Twitter and
all that stuff that's out there, and all time highs
with bitcoin over eight hundred and eighteen thousand. Heck, with

(00:39):
the volatility on bitcoin, who knows, maybe by tomorrow it'll
be on one hundred and five thousand. You never know
how fast that moves. And then we had text stocks
like in video really just fueling fueling some of these
moves in the markets, reaching the highs of over one
hundred and sixty six bucks.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Per share at one point.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Tesla did slip a little bit but showed some strength
on Friday once again. Amid you know, obviously we have
Elon Musk that's in the in the in the news
airwaves right now with some people just maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Not just don't like what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
But you know what, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
He can do what he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So last week we talked about Nike and that would
continue to show some strength over the week but slowed
down on Friday. Coinbase also reaching some major major moves
over the last week or so because of you know,
the bitcoin craze as well, so great movements moving forward.
We did have a lot of people texting in and
going to the website and calling for these free trading

(01:40):
and investing workshops that we do locally here at the
Academy and all across the metro. These are two hour
classes to dive into these markets and gain some insight
on how to make smart investing decisions. If you miss those,
just text the word investing to the number two ten
to ten. That's text investing to the number two ten
to ten and you get a text right back with

(02:00):
a link and you can pick your own seat and
date there, or just go to Trading Academy dot com.
You can pick your own seat and date there. Also
for you old school callers, if you have a rotary phone,
it may or may not work, but you can also
call nine five, two, eight, one four forty four to
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(02:20):
and we'll make sure we get a seat for you
as well. Bring your friends as well. You know, we
get a lot of people that bring their family with
a lot of people are bringing their spouses with especially
if you make your financial decisions together, bring them with
that we can make smart decisions for your family's future.
Follow the podcast invest In Trading live on a podcast,
my Heart Radio and Spotify. So out with Delta. I

(02:43):
was actually on adulta flight last night, and it seems
like every time I fly, I'm getting delayed lately. But
there was not a delayed reaction with the market this week.
Obviously on Friday, soaring on Friday, starting out at about
fifty bucks per share got up to about fifty seven
bucks per SARA thirteen percent return or movement on one
day with Delta. But we talk a lot about these

(03:06):
movements with stocks, and that's what everybody has seen out there.
You've helped a lot of people here at the Academy
with making smart investing decisions, whether they're looking for an
income strategy or a retirement strategy. Now, why are you
seeing people right now come to the Academy for some
sort of help.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Well, what we're seeing, Josh are is a lot of
people coming in saying, you know, I looked at things
on YouTube, I went to some webinars or seminars and
listened to some webinars and seminars, and I got some information,
but I wasn't quite sure how to use it properly
to transition into successful trades. And what they're saying is
that they feel really lucky that they found a place

(03:49):
where they it's a physical location where they can come
in and actually sit down with people that will help them.
And I think that for the majority of the people
out there that are trying to do this on their own,
haven't traded before, or have traded and are doing well,
you're probably going to need some help, some guidance, and
some support. And that's one of the things that really
sets us apart. But I think we also need to

(04:11):
talk about some fallacies, some of the reasons that people
either stay out of the market or don't do well.
And one of those is that you will always constantly
hear people say you can't time the markets. What they're
not telling you is that what they mean by that,
what do they mean by not timing the market, because
what we're going to tell you is that timing, learning

(04:31):
how to time the market. Timing is not only important,
it's necessary if you want to be successful. And what
it is the real meaning of that for us is
identifying market urns and moves before they happen.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So why is that different from stuff that happened and
worked in the eighties nineties.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Things have changed, Things changed constantly. I mean, if you
look back over the years, you know, how did people
used to get movies? They would go to a blockbuster.
How many blockbusters are around anymore?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
One for a couple of years now, people.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
With cameras used to have to buy this thing called film.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
And not many people do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
You know, things have changed. Technology changes, the way the
markets react to economic situations change, and that's a good
thing because somebody is always taking advantage of those changes.
And the great thing for us as retail traders, as
the public is that we have the ability to follow

(05:28):
what the people that are moving price are doing. You
don't have to make this complicated. There's not a lot
of mathematical formulas or weird strange things that you have
to be able to do to take advantage of the markets.
There are people out there that have got this figured
out that are making a lot of money on a
regular basis called Wall Street hedge funds, people like Warren Buffett.

(05:50):
If they're doing something right, because their returns are so
much greater than the retail traders. If they're doing something right,
and you could just understand what they're doing and also
and this is going to excel, maybe strange, but also
know what they're going to do before they do it,
could you then take advantage of their ability to move markets? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So what sets Trading Academy or what makes Trading Academy
the leader of financial education?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Okay, because we have developed excuse me, we've developed an
investment strategy. And by the way, if you're not using
a strategy, you might as well just go to a
casino and throw your money away.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Mestic Clake has a lot of open seats over there.
They always will.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
But we've developed a strategy that we've kind of find
tuned over the years that just add its herd, just
functions on one thing that can't be argued and is
probably the most important component of any financial market, and
that's the relationship between supply and demand. And if you
can identify when demand is going to outpace the supply,

(06:53):
in other words, where buyers out outnumber the sellers, then
you have an opportunity to participate in what they doing.
You know, unfortunately, most retail traders end up just chasing
stocks after.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
The moves have already taken place.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And they're actually by doing that, they're actually trading or
acting with more risk, and then their probability, their edge
of being successful, and their probabilities are gone. So you know,
by the time the public learns about an opportunity on
the news, the smart money, the big players, they have
already moved. And by the time that people have finished
researching a stock, which they tell you to do to

(07:29):
look at the fundamentals, that initial pop is over. And
that's oftentimes when you see the biggest moves the airline
stock you just mentioned Delta. You know, if you go
back a few weeks and you look at Delta, this
is a problem. People think they can just buy something
at any price and hold on to it and they'll
do well. Sure, Delta had a big move the other day,
but go back a few weeks and look at where

(07:51):
it was training.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
It was well, it was actually down forty seven percent
from January until March exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
So what could you have done well? Maybe if you
knew how to benefit when the markets go down, not
just up, you could have benefited from that forty seven
percent drop. Now it came back up again. The truth
is that things don't move in a straight line, whether
it's up or down. They do scare steps, they go up,
they go down. In a bull market, you can have

(08:23):
some of the biggest one day retreats that you'll see,
and in a bear market you can have some of
the best one day moves up that you can see,
but you had. The important thing is you don't fight
the market. And by that what we mean is don't
fight the people that control the market. So who's controlling
the market. It's the people that have enough cloud, enough

(08:44):
dollar clout, financial cloud to move the prices something You
and I don't, and we buy shares of something, we're
not going to move the price.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, to get some context on that, just for our listeners,
you mentioned profiting in multiple directions or having strategies for
multiple directions. For those buying people that buy and just
hold things long term, because that's they say they buy
and hold well over time. It stinks because looking at Delta,
if you would have bought Delta in December of twenty seventeen,

(09:11):
what's that eight years?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
L I mean my matth is a little off, but
probably close to eight.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Years, you would have a catch this now, drum roll please,
a zero percent right everyturn in eight years. So that's
why there's so much opportunities as markets go up.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
As they go down, and as I mentioned, it.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Was down forty seven percent and then markets have rallied
sixty one percent up since then, there's opportunities that people
are missing out on just by buying hoping. And that's
why different Trading Academy differentiates from the public is it's
a strategy that's been developed but based off of facts
supply and demand. If you need help with that, if
you want to gain some knowledge about that supply and

(09:52):
demand strategy, how that works, how to have a plan,
simply just text the word investing right now for two
seats for a free in person investing and trading workshop
to gain some insight on how to make smart investing decisions.
No matter which way this market goes, text investing to
the number two ten two ten, and then it'll be
for two seats one for you and a friend, or

(10:13):
you can call nine five two eight one four forty
four ten. That's nine five two eight one four forty
four ten and we can help you get your own
seat and date there. If you're on the old interweb,
just go to Trading Academy dot com l So we
have multiple directions, directional strategies, and the most people don't

(10:35):
really realize that there's so much opportunities out there. You
look at over a course of you know, say twenty
thirty you know, twenty thirty years, it looks like it's
a good rate of return, but you lose so much time.
And if most people are just buying and hoping it
goes up. If people that's what they know and nobody

(10:57):
is reaching their wealth goals, they got to do something different.
So what does Trading Academy do differently? As as far
as a plan to plan.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
For the future.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay, let me just comment on you mentioned that over
the course of about thirty years, you know, people are
not doing that well. Dell Bar Research Firm a study
they published it showing this has been back in twenty fifteen,
but over the past thirty years, the S and P
returned an average of eleven percent a year. The average
investor only achieved a return of about two and a

(11:30):
half percent. So again it gets down to the difference there.
Why are the big players making money and.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
The smaller players are not. The retail traders aren't.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, then for a number of reasons. They're either trading
the wrong assets. They're putting together a portfolio of the
number of different things that they just hold they're told
to hold on to for years. And we just have
commented on a few things that have dispelled that. The
value that even if you go back to the year
two thousand and you own Intel, it was seventy four
dollars a share. You know, it's twenty five years later

(12:00):
trading in the low twenties.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Twenty three dollars and forty six cents. Yeah, to be exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Buying who work for you there? Not very well?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think they don't. People don't really realize either. It's
not the stock market is designed to go up. It's
it's supposed to. And then if stocks that are in there,
if they stink, they're just gonna pull them out and
put stocks that are doing well so it looks better.
But what people don't realize is your dollars are going fewer.
They're they're worth less and less every single year. The

(12:28):
dollar is about down about eighty percent in since what
since nineteen thirteen, right.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well over even from your twenty twenty it's the buying
powers down over twenty five percent.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, so your dollars don't go anywhere, so it inflates
the market, but you your your money's actually isn't doing
as much for you. You can look at the math
on all that stuff if you know how to do that,
and maybe we can explain that in a different show
at one time. But they're just not having the efficiencies.
It's not just because the market's going up slow. It's
because your dollar is worth less or worthless we'll call it.

(13:03):
And you can't do anything with the earnings that you
do get. So that's why it's important to have a
plan for multidirections other assets, but using leverage and buying power,
and we're going to talk about that in the next
segment as well. Ellis because I think it's important for
our listeners to know that there are ways to be
efficient with whatever dollars that you have and do more

(13:27):
with less, essentially, and we're going to talk about that
coming up here, but if you want to learn more
about how to gain more insight on having your dollars
work for you or how not to be in that
same path of people just don't have enough wealth, people
don't reach their wealth goals. But having a plan to
get there on your terms for whatever goal or objective

(13:48):
that you have. Everybody has a different goal or objective,
why not create that plan and then actually have a
step by step strategy designed to do that. And that's
what Trading Academy does is designed step by steps strategies
to create that plan from where you are now to
where you want to be, and it starts in a
physical trading and investing workshop that we do locally all

(14:10):
across the metro. Here we obviously have our state of
the art facility right here in Bloomington, but we have
locations all across the metro. To come into one of
these free trading and investing workshops, just text the word
investing to the number two ten, two ten. They'll be
for two seats, one for you and a friend, Or
go to Trading Academy dot com and you can pick
your own seat there. If you are an old school caller.

(14:32):
You can call nine five two eight one four forty
four ten. That's nine five two eight one four forty
four ten, and you can get a physical person to
talk to and then you can come into one of
these classes. Al we are going to talk about those
leveraged assets coming up. How to be efficient with your dollars.
If you want to have more efficiency with your dollars,
stay tuned. This is Josh now investing in trading Live.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
We will be right back
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