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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, going back to Investing in Trading Live sponsored by
Trading Academy. As always, I am your host, Josh Lilquist,
and on this next segment, I have my good friend
alback on the show here today. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You know what I'm doing pretty well, Josh. How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm doing fantastic. On the first segment, we talked about
kind of a quick market update. Obviously, tariffs keep lingering around.
There were some earnings this past week. We had obviously
S and P five hundred, the Nasdaq hitting all time highs,
and a couple of interesting approaches here, not approaches, but
what happened with earnings. We have Tesla and Google, which
(00:39):
we'll cover here coming up, and Krispy Kreme showing big
moves this past week, and just like the same thing
with Goalpro and Cols and not to be referred to
as Cole's Cash. So we're going to dive into those here.
But we had a lot of people calling in and
texting in and going to the website for those free
investing and trading workshops that we do locally here at
(01:00):
the Academy. If you did miss seats for that Investing
in Trading workshop simply just text the word investing to
the number two ten two ten for two seats for
a free investing in Trading workshop, or go to Trading
Academy dot com and you can pick your own seat there. Also,
make sure to follow and subscribe to the podcast that's
Investing and Trading Live wherever you listen to your podcasts,
(01:22):
Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio and Spotify, and make sure to hit
that bell. So every time a show gets posted, which
we do almost daily here throughout the week, you can
check out the archives there as well, but listen to
them live as they're put on the podcast sites. Sol
With some of those stocks that I discussed a couple
in particular, you have Google, which actually had good earnings
(01:47):
with price gapped up, but then it drops straight down
after that. And another one was Tesla. It was interesting
with Tesla, they actually had also good earnings, but they
created the market just completely dropped about eight percent. It
(02:10):
gap down and then continue that gap down even after
a good earnings report. So what happened there was they
had a great earnings report and a good revenue report
and revenue was up, and same thing with the earnings.
So it's interesting what happens when there's good news in
the markets, and markets could go down. If there's bad
news in the markets, markets could go up. But really
(02:33):
it doesn't matter when you actually have a trading and
investing strategy that break breaks down what the market is
doing overall, but then how to make smart investing decisions
and not react off of news. Now, you help a
lot of people here at the Academy build that plan
and have emotionless trading in an investing strategies, so you
(02:55):
don't have that fear, you don't have that greed. It's
an actual strategy and it's kind of like almost having
a business plan for your treading investing. So what are
you doing right now here at the Academy And the
Academy has been around on their twenty ninth you're teaching
these skills and concepts in the markets. It's a physical
place to go. You've been helping some people. What are
some of the things that you're doing right now with
(03:16):
these markets that are actually going up, but some people
just aren't getting the returns that they were hoping to get.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, you know, there's a lot of things going on
right now. I guess one of the things that we
want to get across to our students, Josh, is that
you cannot. Nobody's smart enough to anticipate what's going to
happen in the market. You mentioned the earnings of Google
and Tesla. Well, you know, there's strategies you can use
during earnings where it doesn't make any difference which direction
(03:42):
that particular asset goes.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it's a strategy you want to set up ahead
of time though, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You have to set things up ahead of time. You
can't wait until something's happening and then jump in and
get the full benefit from it. So yeah, you have
to be prepared. It's all part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think if we get time out, we should discuss
that maybe in the third of the four segments, strategies
where it doesn't matter which way the market goes. So
if we can have time, we'll do that here today.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah. The other thing I think is that you know,
you look at Google is one of the Magnificent seven socks,
though the luster seems to be going off of those
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What we're seeing is a rotation in two different types
of assets, but it's a risk on environment in the market,
and which means that the retail traders are taking on
more risk. You mentioned Coals for example, and Rocket, I
think was another one. There were open open door. There
were three or four stocks that we would consider meme stocks,
(04:39):
which means that that they.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Moved open on the ball probe.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Krispy Kreme, Yeah, Krispy Kreme was another one. They moved
more on social media comments than on fundamentals. The fundamentals
are not basically even taken into consideration.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, speaking of coals, it's amazing what happened with coals.
They were at about nine dollars and some change, and
they had a move where it brought it up to
over twenty one bucks, over one hundred percent move correct
in one day, actually hundred and twenty percent, and now
it's down back to thirteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, and that's that's the other thing we see, what
we're seeing with emotional trading. That's what we're seeing. A
lot of the public is basically trading based on their emotions,
you know, and they'll jump into something and then what
happens is that things get kind of over overbought, overvalued,
and then they come right back down again. So that's
(05:37):
a great thing for us if you are a trader,
which means you're getting in and out of the market
more short term. These are exactly the kinds of moves
that we want to we want to be taking advantage of.
You know, and you have to understand too that successful
trading isn't about predicting the future. It's about managing the
present is cutting losses early and then letting winners run.
(05:58):
And the only way you can do that successfully. Basically,
it gets down to knowing when to get into something
and when to get out of something. Getting in means
you identify the right price as accurately as possible, where
you have the best probability that moving in your favor,
whether that's up or down. Secondly, you have to know
when to get out if you're wrong, so you don't
(06:19):
write something down and have a big loss. And third
you have to know when to get out with the
maximum profit that's available there Most people need to get
out too soon, miss the majority of the profit, or
they hold on too long and lose everything.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's crazy, but people don't understand that unless you actually
have an actual place to go to learn this stuff.
Because financial literacy really or will call it lack thereof,
it doesn't exist because people don't know how to manage
their finances properly, but especially in the markets, they just
hope and gamble. But it's importantly I just want to
(06:53):
reiterate what you said there is having it, and that's
actually having a plan when to get in, where to
get in, but also where to get out. And you
do that all before your investments are actually triggered or
they actually are filled. And that's one of the big
things that Trading Academy does is trains these skills, these
concepts and how to actually do it. So it's not
(07:15):
just knowledge, it's the application of that knowledge. And that's
why we've been getting so many I mean, it seems
like the gates are flooded here with people coming into
these free trading and investing classes and workshops because they
want to gain that insight on what's actually factual in
the markets, but how banks institutions, how they actually trade,
(07:37):
and a strategy that's designed to trade like them. That's
what Trading Academy has physical place to go to do that,
but we also do these look at a lot of
different locations all across the metro. So I'd like to
invite people that are listening right now to this free
trading and investing workshop locally here at the Academy, and
we're right here in Bloomington centralized in the old metro here,
or we have locations all across the metro. So go
(07:58):
to Trading Academy dot com, that's trding Trading Academy dot
com and you can pick your own seat and date
and location there. Or you can just text the word
investing to the number two ten two ten and you're
going to get a text right back and you can
pick your own seat and date there. There's two seats
available for you, one for you and a friend. When
(08:19):
you do register for that free investing and trading class,
we're going to make sure we have one of our
team members give you a call to see what you're
looking to get out of that class, so that way
we can try to cater this as much as we
can to the individuals that are coming into these classes.
So that way you can start a plan to accomplish
some of the goals and objectives that you do have.
(08:39):
And a goal without a plan is just a wish,
So it starts by action coming into all these free
trading and investing classes and then getting that plan started. So,
as we mentioned, al with the markets at all time highs,
some people do feel like everything is all gravy. Now,
we talked about a little bit in the last segment
where its interesting you have some of these safe havens
(09:03):
out there, and gold being one of them. L it's
interesting that the gold market right around all time highs. Again,
so gold is sitting at right around three thy three
hundred and seventy five bucks an owns depending on when
you listen to the show here, but it's been hovering
around that that area since April. Right now. What's interesting
(09:25):
is is that it's basically at at all time highs. Now.
One of the concerns that I have, which I don't
know if it's going to happen, but is it possible
that institutions have been driving this market up because they've
been investing in gold as a safe haven, you know, potentially,
because what sometimes happened is happens, is if there's a
safe haven being invested in, the smart money is planning
(09:49):
for something you know, negative in the actual stock market.
Not saying that's going to happen, but that's a possibility.
But that's why it's so important to understand these different
assets like the gold market, which is the future's market,
the options market, or the for X market, which is
the currency market. So why I want you to explain
a little bit why that is so important to have.
(10:11):
We'll call it diversification. So that way it doesn't matter
what the market does. You have strategies for positivity and
that negative aspect.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, yeah, there are different strategies that can be used
for different purposes, and that's one of the things that
we do. We want to find out what your purpose is,
what's your goal, what's your objective in the markets? Are
you looking for short term income? Are you looking at
building something for down the road and more long term
wealth because the way you use the markets is different
than for income than it is for long term wealth.
(10:43):
And really, as a trader, what we're looking for is
just we're taking advantage of price movement. We're not looking
at what the company fundamentals are in the future and
what the growth of that particular company is. That's more
long term short term trading. You need to use something
that really is an asset that's really geared towards short
(11:06):
term trading, and that's things like options, futures in the
foreign exchange market. The other thing that they provide for you,
in addition to the ability to be in and out
of something short term, is that they have leverage, so
people can take a smaller amount of money and then
control something that's worth a much larger amount.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And we can discuss that a little more in the
first in the next segment. But think about that for
a second. Rather than putting all of your money into
one market or one trade, which technically is put in
all your eggs in one past, correct, why not use
less capital with leverage. We'll talk about those leverage assets
coming up, and then you have more efficiencies so you
can do more with that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Exactly. A lot of people think that they're efficient because
they're spread out amongst a number of different stocks or
different mutual funds. That in fact is not the case,
because you're still investing all in one asset category, and
that's equities. So the true professionals spread their capital out
amongst different things that aren't necessarily correlated to each other,
(12:06):
things that might be more appropriate for a particular time
in the markets. And you know, you mentioned something earlier
than I want to come in on two. You mentioned
application of knowledge. Anybody can get knowledge. I mean, there's
all sorts of knowledge out there. The problem is people
don't know how to use it, how to transition it
from knowledge in their brain to successful trades. And I'm
(12:29):
always surprised at how many people come in. Most of
our students are new to trading and investing, which is great,
but we always have a large number of people that
come in that have been trading for maybe ten twenty
years that say, I just don't know I understand the
asset i'm trading. I totally understand how the markets function.
I just don't know when to get in and when
(12:49):
to get out. And that's really what if you look
at any strategy out there, that's what that's supposed to
be able to do for you. But they're using all
these different strategies and probably jump from one to another.
They're not getting that precise information or the ability to
be accurate on their entries and their exits, which is
(13:10):
the most critical point about being successful as a trader.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Here's an example of that. L And if you're listening
right now, just think about this concept.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Here.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
People say they understand how the market works, they understand
their trading strategy, they understand all that stuff. All right, Well,
I also understand brain surgery. I understand how it's done.
There's different things that they do. We could go on
and on about what happens with brain surgery, but I
still don't know how to actually do it. You can
(13:40):
understand something, but doing it properly and efficiently and safely
is two totally different things. And that is why we
have these physical investing and trading workshops because there's a
difference between understanding and learning what actually needs to be done,
which is the application. So if you're one of those
(14:01):
people that understands the market but looking for more consistency
is actually being able to do it properly and safely.
So I'd like to invite you to this free investing
and trading workshop right here at Trading Academy. We're a
local academy that trains these skills and concepts and techniques
and actually having a plan whether you're trading and investing
in a live setting, and that's what people are looking
(14:22):
for as a place to go to learn these really
to learn financial literacy. So to come into one of
these free investing in trading workshops, just text the word
investing to the number two ten to ten or go
to Trading Academy dot com. You can pick your own
seat there. We have several We do a lot of
these classes per month, and the gates are flooded with
people coming in because I think a lot of people
(14:43):
understand now is the time to prepare, but also there's
opportunities you just don't want to miss. Text investing to
the number two ten two ten coming up next, we're
going to get into those leverage assets. This is joshanel
with investing in Trading Live. We will be right back
Well, going back to Investing in Trading Live sponsored by
Trading Academy. As always, I am your host, Josh Lilquist,
and on this next segment, I have my good friend
alback on the show here today. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You know what I'm doing pretty well, Josh. How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm doing fantastic. On the first segment, we talked about
kind of a quick market update. Obviously, tariffs keep lingering around.
There were some earnings this past week. We had obviously
S and P five hundred, the Nasdaq hitting all time highs,
and a couple of interesting approaches here, not approaches, but
what happened with earnings. We have Tesla and Google, which
(00:39):
we'll cover here coming up, and Krispy Kreme showing big
moves this past week, and just like the same thing
with Goalpro and Cols and not to be referred to
as Cole's Cash. So we're going to dive into those here.
But we had a lot of people calling in and
texting in and going to the website for those free
investing and trading workshops that we do locally here at
(01:00):
the Academy. If you did miss seats for that Investing
in Trading workshop simply just text the word investing to
the number two ten two ten for two seats for
a free investing in Trading workshop, or go to Trading
Academy dot com and you can pick your own seat there. Also,
make sure to follow and subscribe to the podcast that's
Investing and Trading Live wherever you listen to your podcasts,
(01:22):
Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio and Spotify, and make sure to hit
that bell. So every time a show gets posted, which
we do almost daily here throughout the week, you can
check out the archives there as well, but listen to
them live as they're put on the podcast sites. Sol
With some of those stocks that I discussed a couple
in particular, you have Google, which actually had good earnings
(01:47):
with price gapped up, but then it drops straight down
after that. And another one was Tesla. It was interesting
with Tesla, they actually had also good earnings, but they
created the market just completely dropped about eight percent. It
(02:10):
gap down and then continue that gap down even after
a good earnings report. So what happened there was they
had a great earnings report and a good revenue report
and revenue was up, and same thing with the earnings.
So it's interesting what happens when there's good news in
the markets, and markets could go down. If there's bad
news in the markets, markets could go up. But really
(02:33):
it doesn't matter when you actually have a trading and
investing strategy that break breaks down what the market is
doing overall, but then how to make smart investing decisions
and not react off of news. Now, you help a
lot of people here at the Academy build that plan
and have emotionless trading in an investing strategies, so you
(02:55):
don't have that fear, you don't have that greed. It's
an actual strategy and it's kind of like almost having
a business plan for your treading investing. So what are
you doing right now here at the Academy And the
Academy has been around on their twenty ninth you're teaching
these skills and concepts in the markets. It's a physical
place to go. You've been helping some people. What are
some of the things that you're doing right now with
(03:16):
these markets that are actually going up, but some people
just aren't getting the returns that they were hoping to get.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, you know, there's a lot of things going on
right now. I guess one of the things that we
want to get across to our students, Josh, is that
you cannot. Nobody's smart enough to anticipate what's going to
happen in the market. You mentioned the earnings of Google
and Tesla. Well, you know, there's strategies you can use
during earnings where it doesn't make any difference which direction
(03:42):
that particular asset goes.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it's a strategy you want to set up ahead
of time though, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You have to set things up ahead of time. You
can't wait until something's happening and then jump in and
get the full benefit from it. So yeah, you have
to be prepared. It's all part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think if we get time out, we should discuss
that maybe in the third of the four segments, strategies
where it doesn't matter which way the market goes. So
if we can have time, we'll do that here today.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah. The other thing I think is that you know,
you look at Google is one of the Magnificent seven socks,
though the luster seems to be going off of those
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What we're seeing is a rotation in two different types
of assets, but it's a risk on environment in the market,
and which means that the retail traders are taking on
more risk. You mentioned Coals for example, and Rocket, I
think was another one. There were open open door. There
were three or four stocks that we would consider meme stocks,
(04:39):
which means that that they.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Moved open on the ball probe.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Krispy Kreme, Yeah, Krispy Kreme was another one. They moved
more on social media comments than on fundamentals. The fundamentals
are not basically even taken into consideration.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, speaking of coals, it's amazing what happened with coals.
They were at about nine dollars and some change, and
they had a move where it brought it up to
over twenty one bucks, over one hundred percent move correct
in one day, actually hundred and twenty percent, and now
it's down back to thirteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, and that's that's the other thing we see, what
we're seeing with emotional trading. That's what we're seeing. A
lot of the public is basically trading based on their emotions,
you know, and they'll jump into something and then what
happens is that things get kind of over overbought, overvalued,
and then they come right back down again. So that's
(05:37):
a great thing for us if you are a trader,
which means you're getting in and out of the market
more short term. These are exactly the kinds of moves
that we want to we want to be taking advantage of.
You know, and you have to understand too that successful
trading isn't about predicting the future. It's about managing the
present is cutting losses early and then letting winners run.
(05:58):
And the only way you can do that successfully. Basically,
it gets down to knowing when to get into something
and when to get out of something. Getting in means
you identify the right price as accurately as possible, where
you have the best probability that moving in your favor,
whether that's up or down. Secondly, you have to know
when to get out if you're wrong, so you don't
(06:19):
write something down and have a big loss. And third
you have to know when to get out with the
maximum profit that's available there Most people need to get
out too soon, miss the majority of the profit, or
they hold on too long and lose everything.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's crazy, but people don't understand that unless you actually
have an actual place to go to learn this stuff.
Because financial literacy really or will call it lack thereof,
it doesn't exist because people don't know how to manage
their finances properly, but especially in the markets, they just
hope and gamble. But it's importantly I just want to
(06:53):
reiterate what you said there is having it, and that's
actually having a plan when to get in, where to
get in, but also where to get out. And you
do that all before your investments are actually triggered or
they actually are filled. And that's one of the big
things that Trading Academy does is trains these skills, these
concepts and how to actually do it. So it's not
(07:15):
just knowledge, it's the application of that knowledge. And that's
why we've been getting so many I mean, it seems
like the gates are flooded here with people coming into
these free trading and investing classes and workshops because they
want to gain that insight on what's actually factual in
the markets, but how banks institutions, how they actually trade,
(07:37):
and a strategy that's designed to trade like them. That's
what Trading Academy has physical place to go to do that,
but we also do these look at a lot of
different locations all across the metro. So I'd like to
invite people that are listening right now to this free
trading and investing workshop locally here at the Academy, and
we're right here in Bloomington centralized in the old metro here,
or we have locations all across the metro. So go
(07:58):
to Trading Academy dot com, that's trding Trading Academy dot
com and you can pick your own seat and date
and location there. Or you can just text the word
investing to the number two ten two ten and you're
going to get a text right back and you can
pick your own seat and date there. There's two seats
available for you, one for you and a friend. When
(08:19):
you do register for that free investing and trading class,
we're going to make sure we have one of our
team members give you a call to see what you're
looking to get out of that class, so that way
we can try to cater this as much as we
can to the individuals that are coming into these classes.
So that way you can start a plan to accomplish
some of the goals and objectives that you do have.
(08:39):
And a goal without a plan is just a wish,
So it starts by action coming into all these free
trading and investing classes and then getting that plan started. So,
as we mentioned, al with the markets at all time highs,
some people do feel like everything is all gravy. Now,
we talked about a little bit in the last segment
where its interesting you have some of these safe havens
(09:03):
out there, and gold being one of them. L it's
interesting that the gold market right around all time highs. Again,
so gold is sitting at right around three thy three
hundred and seventy five bucks an owns depending on when
you listen to the show here, but it's been hovering
around that that area since April. Right now. What's interesting
(09:25):
is is that it's basically at at all time highs. Now.
One of the concerns that I have, which I don't
know if it's going to happen, but is it possible
that institutions have been driving this market up because they've
been investing in gold as a safe haven, you know, potentially,
because what sometimes happened is happens, is if there's a
safe haven being invested in, the smart money is planning
(09:49):
for something you know, negative in the actual stock market.
Not saying that's going to happen, but that's a possibility.
But that's why it's so important to understand these different
assets like the gold market, which is the future's market,
the options market, or the for X market, which is
the currency market. So why I want you to explain
a little bit why that is so important to have.
(10:11):
We'll call it diversification. So that way it doesn't matter
what the market does. You have strategies for positivity and
that negative aspect.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, yeah, there are different strategies that can be used
for different purposes, and that's one of the things that
we do. We want to find out what your purpose is,
what's your goal, what's your objective in the markets? Are
you looking for short term income? Are you looking at
building something for down the road and more long term
wealth because the way you use the markets is different
than for income than it is for long term wealth.
(10:43):
And really, as a trader, what we're looking for is
just we're taking advantage of price movement. We're not looking
at what the company fundamentals are in the future and
what the growth of that particular company is. That's more
long term short term trading. You need to use something
that really is an asset that's really geared towards short
(11:06):
term trading, and that's things like options, futures in the
foreign exchange market. The other thing that they provide for you,
in addition to the ability to be in and out
of something short term, is that they have leverage, so
people can take a smaller amount of money and then
control something that's worth a much larger amount.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And we can discuss that a little more in the
first in the next segment. But think about that for
a second. Rather than putting all of your money into
one market or one trade, which technically is put in
all your eggs in one past, correct, why not use
less capital with leverage. We'll talk about those leverage assets
coming up, and then you have more efficiencies so you
can do more with that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Exactly. A lot of people think that they're efficient because
they're spread out amongst a number of different stocks or
different mutual funds. That in fact is not the case,
because you're still investing all in one asset category, and
that's equities. So the true professionals spread their capital out
amongst different things that aren't necessarily correlated to each other,
(12:06):
things that might be more appropriate for a particular time
in the markets. And you know, you mentioned something earlier
than I want to come in on two. You mentioned
application of knowledge. Anybody can get knowledge. I mean, there's
all sorts of knowledge out there. The problem is people
don't know how to use it, how to transition it
from knowledge in their brain to successful trades. And I'm
(12:29):
always surprised at how many people come in. Most of
our students are new to trading and investing, which is great,
but we always have a large number of people that
come in that have been trading for maybe ten twenty
years that say, I just don't know I understand the
asset i'm trading. I totally understand how the markets function.
I just don't know when to get in and when
(12:49):
to get out. And that's really what if you look
at any strategy out there, that's what that's supposed to
be able to do for you. But they're using all
these different strategies and probably jump from one to another.
They're not getting that precise information or the ability to
be accurate on their entries and their exits, which is
(13:10):
the most critical point about being successful as a trader.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Here's an example of that. L And if you're listening
right now, just think about this concept.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Here.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
People say they understand how the market works, they understand
their trading strategy, they understand all that stuff. All right, Well,
I also understand brain surgery. I understand how it's done.
There's different things that they do. We could go on
and on about what happens with brain surgery, but I
still don't know how to actually do it. You can
(13:40):
understand something, but doing it properly and efficiently and safely
is two totally different things. And that is why we
have these physical investing and trading workshops because there's a
difference between understanding and learning what actually needs to be done,
which is the application. So if you're one of those
(14:01):
people that understands the market but looking for more consistency
is actually being able to do it properly and safely.
So I'd like to invite you to this free investing
and trading workshop right here at Trading Academy. We're a
local academy that trains these skills and concepts and techniques
and actually having a plan whether you're trading and investing
in a live setting, and that's what people are looking
(14:22):
for as a place to go to learn these really
to learn financial literacy. So to come into one of
these free investing in trading workshops, just text the word
investing to the number two ten to ten or go
to Trading Academy dot com. You can pick your own
seat there. We have several We do a lot of
these classes per month, and the gates are flooded with
people coming in because I think a lot of people
(14:43):
understand now is the time to prepare, but also there's
opportunities you just don't want to miss. Text investing to
the number two ten two ten coming up next, we're
going to get into those leverage assets. This is joshanel
with investing in Trading Live. We will be right back
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