November 13, 2024 • 43 mins
Nick Devlin is a transformational coach who settled in Ocean Beach after military service. He is a former Army Ranger serving with the 75th Ranger Regiment in Savannah, Georgia.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I've read Davis coming to you from the beautiful blue
Lapis Media Studio in Cornado, and I'm very honored today.
One of our recipients is actually here with us, who
took time out of his busy schedule, Nick Devlin, who
is a transformational coach, and he just received our award
the service and sacrifice Guardian of Guardian that guardian, Guardian
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of freedom.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I say that right, Sarah, good, nice, Thanks for being here. Yeah,
thank you, and thank you for your service and for
all that you have done and continue to do.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, thanks for your support.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Your your speech that you gave, your talk, whatever you
want to call it was very heartfelt and I think
everybody in the audience really loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, No, it was a great, great honor to be
there and see the award.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And you have a great support system.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, you brought everybody up on the stage and I
was like, wow, So tell me about some of that
some of that group, How do you know most of
those people.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Most of those people are just in community here in
San Diego, just friends of mine and.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Very nice people. I talked to a lot of a
few of them.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hell, they talked a little bit all seemed very nice,
seemed to care about you a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, it's a good crew, very nice.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So right now, we were just talking a little bit
bit before the podcast. Why do you think right now
transformational coaching is more vital than ever?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, one of the big things that I focus on
my coaching is human connection. And I feel like that's
kind of one of the biggest opportunities that we have
just as a society at this point, especially with the
way things are going with AI and all this divisiveness
and separateness happening in the world. I think there's a
really big opportunity for all of us to improve our
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connection skills, right, your human connection, And that's one of
the one of the biggest things that I focus on
as a coach, to go from this transformation of like
isolated and alone and separate to you know, how do
we function together? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So, why do you think there's so much divisiveness? What
do you think it's all? Where does that all come from?
And do you think it's curable?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Uh? Yeah, I do think it's curable. I think that
I think that's a big challenge they were facing. But
it's like we were talking about before. I think that
we've all kind of been raised in this industrial mindset,
command and control and hierarchy and domination, and you know,
and it's just not a very human way to live,
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not a very human way to be to be raised,
you know. And most of us were when we were children,
you know, the natural thing to do as a child
is want to go play and mimic your caregivers or
your parents or whatever, right and learn how to become adults.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
One of the biggest things that kids do is play,
pretend And what do you do in your playing? Oh,
let's play, let's play work, let's play school, let's play
you know, do all these things. Uh, And there's some
opportunity to do that, but I think we've increasingly got
away from that, and it's become this really isolated family unit.
And then kids get to school age, it's like, okay,
here's all the kids, you know, and then they get
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into the classroom and it's like you sit in your seat,
you face forward, everybody's competing for attention from this one adult,
and it's just a very dystopian kind of way to
be as a kid. The kids that want to play
and that are restless, you know, we medicate them and
tell them they got ADHD and their special needs, and
it's just it's just really not natural.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you find a lot of those individuals that have
that are very gifted and very talented, and then maybe
we're stopping them from really being who they could be.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Absolutely. I mean I'm a firm believer that every human
has their own kind of unique superpowers, and I think
people that we classify as having disabilities these days have
some astonishing potential that we just maybe aren't ready to
recognize or realize. But yeah, and that's that's part of
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what I do as well, right as a transformational coach,
is help you discover more of yourself, help you discover
those superpowers that are have inherently.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So well, we have a mutual friend that's watched, Actually
have a lot of people watching, but one of our
mutual friends is Robert Garcia. Yeah, so nice to see you, Rob, Rob,
I ever forgotten you. We'll be in touch pretty soon.
We'll be seeing you and thank you for all that
you do. And and he had a huge impact on
that event, and I think he I think everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
He seems like he's very popular.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, Yeah, it's been really helpful for me.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Good. Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So a lot of a lot of famous inventors and
people throughout history probably had some type of challenge going on,
I would think, and I don't think they probably were medicated.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I didn't really know how to deal with it. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that's you know, there's the what does it real?
They say, it's like the eccentricity, right, like you're either
either a genius or crazy, and you know this is
a fine line in between.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Pretty close, pretty close. Yeah. Uh So.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
With that being said, how do you how does it
work out to say somebody feels they need some transformation?
Is there a criteria? Is there a certain type of
individual you look to work for? Do you work with everybody?
Or are you very picky?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know, that's that's an ongoing evolution for me and
refining who it is that that I'm really meant to
work with. And so it's been I can work with anyone, well,
anyone in any demographic, in any different position. A lot
of what I bring our principles of transformation, principles of
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of becoming and growing and all of those things can
be applied to anyone. But it's it's really about who's
going to resonate with me? And like who you know,
who's gonna vibe with my style? And that's changed a
little bit. I've helped veterans, I've helped female professionals, entrepreneurs, executives,
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I've helped men have So it's kind of across the board.
Right now, I'm I'm starting to dial it in and
and it seems like right now I'm really pointing towards
young salesman. That's really what seems like my you know,
my clientele or my players. I call my players, right
because the coach has players.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You play chess, also, I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I have, but I'm not an avid. I'm not avid.
Yeah yeah, but uh yeah. Right now, it looks like
it's it's that kind of demographic. And what's really cool
about that is, you know, these young men are coming
out of college or whatever and they're trying to figure
out life, right, they're just kind of becoming becoming young men,
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becoming professionals, and especially when they're in sales, like this
is a really that's kind of like sink or swim,
right with sales, there's unlimited upside, but it's a really
challenging occupation because it immediately faces you with your biggest fear, right,
which is like the cold call, Like, oh my god,
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I's got to pick up the phone and just talk
to somebody. And so again when we go back to
human connection, it's like we weren't taught how to talk
to somebody when we were kids, right, And so yeah,
so there's a lot of opportunity there. But it's cool
because once we get them kind of feeling more free
internally and really able to like dance with that fear
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that comes up, now they're on fire. Right. So I
have some guys who are like, oh yeah, I'll pick
up the phone one hundred times a day, two hundred times.
Oh yeah, yeah, And they started, you know, a few
months ago at like I don't want to pick up.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The phoneah, because I think rejection and failure is probably
something that is not a normal thing for people to
be able to adapt to.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Totally well, and it's something we all deal with, right.
This is so I operate based on a couple of
different frameworks. But there's one called the social play framework,
and then there's the social fear. It goes along with that, right.
So play is like I'm getting out there to explore,
see and be seen and just you know, see what's
out there, right, And then there's relating, So okay, I'm
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gonna relate for influence, right, And then there's uh uh create, Right,
I'm gonna create something and share it with somebody and
invite them to it. And and then there's play or experiment. Right,
it's gonna go for it. And each one of those
has fear associated with it. Fear of rejection, fear of
making mistake, fear of disappointing someone, you know, fear of
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getting into trouble. And then beneath those are all the
like I'm not enough and those kind of right, So
we're really dealing with this like subconscious treasure chest of beliefs.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So we're we're kind of our own worst enemies.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
By said, we kind of sabotage ourselves because of these
these fears.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So yeah, I love I love this, I love this topic.
So that's really popular to say, like, oh, on my
own worst enemy, I gotta get out of my own way, right,
self sabotage, And that's it's actually been popularized by the
personal growth industry, right, But that to me is actually
completely wrong thinking and sets you up for failure. I
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was like, Oh, I got to figure out this self sabotage.
But that sets up this like conflict within, Like, oh,
I've got this enemy within that's trying to take me down.
And that's just not true, right at least in my philosophy,
and my premise is that you're born awesome, You're born whole,
and then you go through all these experiences in this
culture that kind of squish you and squash and dampened
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superpowers and you know, get you to operate more in
this like robot mode, you know. But if the truth
is you're awesome and whole already, then there can't be
some part of you that's trying to take you out, right,
There's just a part of you that's trying to keep
you safe. And so instead of self sabotage, I call
it self preservation. And this is how it was trained
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as a coach, and this is my own personal belief too.
But self preservation, now, that sets up a totally different
dynamic because we can work with that, Oh, there's a
part of you that loves you, that wants to keep
you safe and you know, take care of you. Great,
what's going on there?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And so that's what all fear and fear adjacent experiences,
which are like overwhelmed, procrastination, frustration, avoidance, right, resistance, all
that stuff is related to fear. And the fear is
coming up because you did something once or a bunch
of times, and every time you did it, or that
one time you did it, you got smacked by life. Right,
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maybe smacked by a caretaker who knows, right, but the
point is like you were just being yourself and then
you got some kind of uncomfortable experience. So your subconscious
takes that and runs with it and goes, all right,
I'm gonna make up a rule here, like I don't
want to feel that again, so let's not do whatever
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led to that, right, And then we just keep doing
this and we keep making up all these rules, and
eventually we get to a point in our life where
we're called forth right by a challenge. It it's time
to step up, speak up, do whatever, and we're tapping
into that that superpower that we were doing before. But
now the fear comes with it too and goes, don't
do that. Remember last time you tried something like this, right,
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And that's all we're looking at, right, that's some of
the most powerful, potent things that we can do together
in transformational coaching is connect to those experiences and go, okay,
let's let's unpack that, right, Let's let's pull on some
of these threads. Now, what's different about this? And like therapy, right,
because therapy great for going back and oh what happened there?
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And you know, unpacking the stories.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And sometimes look like people don't even remember.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's another thing. So it's great. I'm
studying this stuff right now on a deeper level with
a friend of mine. And our subconscious supposedly records everything perfectly, right,
So there's a part of us that perfect has perfect
memory of everything that we've experienced. But we have a
recall system in our brain that's limited, right. It starts
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to batch things and group things because it's just too
much information, right, So we don't recall properly and sometimes
not at all, especially with a lot of the hard stuff.
The difference between like therapy and coaching is in coaching,
some of the past stuff is likely to come up
based off this idea, right where hey, I went and
I tried something and then I didn't do it, you know,
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I avoided it, or I meaning to do this thing.
I'm just not doing it. I don't know why. That's
self sabotage, right, which we know now is self preservation.
That when that comes up, we're likely going to glance
at something that happened in the past, But then we're
going to look forward, right, and we're going to go, Okay, great,
that happened. What were you trying to express? That's probably
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what's needed now. But back then you didn't have the
skill to express it properly.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Back then you didn't wield it properly. Now what do
you need so that you can skillfully express this unique
strength of yours? Right? And how can we wield this
more properly?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And so it's cool because now you have the experience
of life and you know, okay, it's time to use this. Uh,
you know it's time to play bigger by using your superpowers.
And now you get to practice with a coach using
that that ability.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So your former military, Yeah, and how much of this
stuff did you know before you went into the military
and how much did you learn during or after?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Uh, which branch were you in?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I was in an army a seventy fifth Ranger Regiment
first bataliyank.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You for your service in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh look we got one of all right, thank you,
thank you in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yep. Yeah good food.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So so you you learned the rate you become a ranger.
Did you always know you wanted to be a ranger
or how did that happen?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I always knew I wanted to be military, you know
when I was a young kid. I remember, you know,
I played with g I Joe's. My grandfather was first
Division Marine World War Two, you know, and had some
of my dad's friends were Vietnam vets, and so it
was always kind of around and I just I really
admired that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I did.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know. It was a lot of great military movies
and stuff war movies that came out, you know when
I was a kid, and so I was just like
hook Line and Sinker, you know. Back then, the Army
slogan was be all you can be, you know, And
I think that's a clue for me, right, that whole
like be all you can be. I mean, now I'm
a transformational coach. It's like that's always been a theme
for me. I want to be the best that I
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can do.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So, going going in, how much of this did you
kind of get an idea about I think you did
a little bit anyway, And then how much more did
you learn with the mindset of being a ranger?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's such a good question. I've been reflecting
on that recently, right, because it's been it's been twelve
and a half years since I got out, right, so
sixteen will call it. Sixteen years from when I started
becoming a ranger to now, and I've been studying high performance,
you know, human potential basically, right starting with joining the military.
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And so even before the military, I was I was
a kind of question reality, question authority kind of guy. Right,
I was like, I don't know, you know, I was
curious about life and I always wanted to be the
best that I could be. So there was a little
bit of that vibe already which led me to arrange
a regiment, And in regiment, I really had the experience
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of what does it take to be like the top, right,
the top one percent individually, but also what does it
take to be a really high performance team?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right? So it just individual and teams can two different things.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
It is some people are not good team players, right,
exactly and so excelling everybody excels even more.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Right, And that's the cool thing about coaching, right is
it looking at it? We look at it from all
these angles. It's like, okay, let's go in. How do
you become the best version of you? And what is
the next version of you available? But then how do
you create the environment that's an environment of success? Right?
So that's being surrounded by people, places and things that
support you, that celebrate you, that you know you can
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be yourself, right?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And so are there's some people just not meant to
be part of a team because they are such an
individual and they're better off doing individual type things.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Or can that be changed?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
That's a really good question. You know, I haven't thought
too much about that. I think that we can always
change and adapt and become better at whatever game we
just have to play. You have to You got to
want it, right, Yeah, you gotta want it. And I
would say it's the exception that there's somebody that is
better off by their own, you know, by themselves. You know,
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maybe like an Alex Hunnold, like the guy that reresoloed
l CAP. You know, there's certain types of individuals that
are just like they're so dialed in. But then again,
he's a family man now, and you know, he has
has a crew and guys out and so I don't know,
there's probably a spectrum of like, hey, you know, eighty
percent of the time he's really good on his own,
but then he you know, needs this or some people
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that are at the other end of that spectrum.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, So do you get a lot of people that
are well, you see, you're getting a lot of salespeople
ever salespeople, So that's part of a team. Yeah, I
mean yeah, I mean they have to go out and
do the work. But what makes that part of a
team of the R salesperson? I mean, there is an
individual aspect, but well.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It's looking at the whole ecosystem, right, So it's it's
everything from like how's your family relationships to you know,
how's your relationship with your coworkers.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like a lot of the difference, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, A lot of the folks that I deal with,
they're dealing with both the customers and suppliers, right, and
then they're making deals within the office, and you know,
and then they're interacting with their manager and you know,
customers and So even if you're like the solo realtor
of the year or you know, a salesperson of the year,
wherever you are, there's other people involved, and the better
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you are at connecting with those other people, the better
your business is going to do and the better your
life is going to be.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
True. So is that a serious questions that you wanted
to go over this talk about?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
This was this was just some stuff about Uh, just
kind of curious about the podcast and you know your
listeners and what how can best serve them?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And I think everybody's trying to find something that is trying.
I mean, transformation should never stop.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think it's something you take with you. You have to
continue to be a student.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and revisit it because things are changing.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We talked about this earlier all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah, things are changing all the time.
And like we talked about before, this was no matter
what's happening, this is this is my This is kind
of like my message to the world based off of
my life and what I've everything I've been through is
that anything is possible. Anything is possible, and life is
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happening for you. Every day is a gift and I
mentioned that in my tht that that perspective will serve
anyone very well. Everything that's going on right now. The
world's the world's crazy at times, right, but it is
what it is, like we said, So, okay, align with
reality as much as you can understand that this is
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the situation and everybody has their own lens that they're
looking at it through, right, so what I see might
not be seen the same way by the guy next
to me, and allow for that to be paradoxical if
it is right? And uh, and then have a vision
for yourself, right. Step one, Have a vision for where
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you're going, what you want your life to look like.
You gotta see it. But once you see it you
can do it. Then well, you got to work on
believing it. That's the middle step and that's something that
we do a lot of stuff with coaching, is is
that belief level, right, like what's possible?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You got to that belief, then you got to see it,
and then you have to probably have the steps on
how to get there.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, I'm sure seeing it's not just enough.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Right, right, And that's where it comes in. Okay, you
got a vision, great, let's get a plan together.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, I'm investing.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, what's your dream, what's your Well.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I'll give you example when we do the events. I
really Sarah and I talked about this. I didn't. We
never We never talked about this, which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
A couple of days ago, and she was talking about
she sees everything happening. She sees the event, the people
coming in, the music playing, you know, what's the flowers
on the table.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean, she's very detailed. Did I leave anything else out? Okay?
And I I kind of do that too. We never
really talked about it, but.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I mean I could see, you know, rober Garcia coming
up talking to me. I see us taking a picture together,
you know, I see uh, some mishaps happening, because things always.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Happened by the scenes.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, but I it's almost like watching a video or
you know, I can see in my mind the way
even like the way we're doing things talking right now,
I can really see that in my mind.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I can already see all that happening.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Visualized to achieve.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, it's one of my favorite topics. And so so
I would guess that you guys both have some kind
of powers of clairvoyance, right, and we're talking about superpowers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think you're going to say because of the legalization
of marijuana.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Oh yeah, well that's that helps. Sometimes I'm open to
all tools for transformation.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Is that clairvoyant?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Sorry about that, Yeah, but no, it's it's really I mean,
there's so many different levels of superpowers, and you know,
site and audio cla what do you call it? Audio voyance?
I mean there's all these different things that you know,
you could say they're in the psychic realm. You know,
I believe that this is this.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is this is not as scientific as I thought it
was going to be. You're adding you're adding.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
A spiritual aspect to transformation, which I've always believed that
there has to be something spiritual. Yeah, clairvoyance I never
would have thought about. Yeah, so you're you know, you've
achieved a lot and you've seen a lot your former
background in the military being a ranger, and I'm sure
you apply everything in your life to that. With all
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the information you had as being a ranger. What else
have you added to all that knowledge you already had
after you left the service?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Man, did you just go crazy and start looking at
different religious beliefs?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, did you look more into meditation. Were you
always in a meditation?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Do you believe in goals, deadlines, things like that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's great. Good question. So when I got
out of the military, I had just recently gotten married,
married while I was in started a family, my first
kid right after I got out, and I basically went
into survival mode, you know, which is a strength of mine. Right,
I will persevere, I will survive anything. And it's and
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it's great because it gives me a sense of calm,
I know. You know, however chaot here gets I'm gonna
I'm gonna be fine, and even if it takes me out, Okay,
I'm good, right, I'm okay with my mortal.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Even if it takes you out.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've very much come to terms with
with my mortal.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So you know, when everything's going crazy, you're probably staying
calm and everybody else is losing.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Their ship usually.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, But it was a practice to get to that point, right,
I had that mentality. But what shifted for me over
the years is moving from like a very like control
based way to stay calm, you know, uh, to like
full acceptance and like it's it's all gonna be okay,
Like everything is happening right now is a gift and
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it's for me. Like I mentioned, so when I got out,
you know, I went into survival mode as I got
a job right away, right back into engineering. And I
mean literally like I had terminal leave, and I had
like thirty days of terminal leave. Three days after I
was out of the military. I was already working, you know, Yeah,
three days. I couldn't sit still on vacation. I couldn't
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go on vacation, you know. And looking back now, I
was running. I was running from a lot of stuff
that was built up physically, mentally. I was really I
had a lot to work through when I got out
of the military. But I went right into you know,
take care, provide, take care of the family, and for
a couple of years that was my focus. It was
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a really tough transition for me. There weren't a lot
of resources at that time to help you, you know,
successfully transition. I still think it's pretty it's pretty wanting.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Once we were talking about earlier, the.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Getting out of the military part, we talked, I just
talked briefly about the job part.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, but you just touched on something that we might.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Need at that event next year, which is you know,
being able to talk to people that are leaving the
military and say, hey, did you think about this?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This kind be going on with you? Are you running
from something or are you running running towards something?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, that's a cool idea.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I think I think we have maybe.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You have a transformational coach on site.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
You could do maybe a talk maybe and then maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Talk to some of the booth or something, and just
we've been interested in that. I think I think that's
a good fit.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So yeah, yeah, I love to support folks getting out.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So currently, so currently working with Now are you doing
lectures or is just this through the internet or how
are you working with individuals? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
So I do. I have a group program. It's called
Amplifier Dreams, and that's uh yeah, that's a group journey
three months long. Three months, yeah, three months, ninety days
and we'll meet every week and we focus in on
a piece of the method that that I'm developing. Basically,
it is called the Love your Life method, and it's
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built off of different methods that I've studied in my
coaching that I've been trained in as well as my
own life experiences and like again, it starts with have
a dream, right, have a vision. So that's the first
couple sessions. We really focus in on what is it
you want to create. We've got some really cool, playful
ways to extract that to the point where sometimes people
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show up they're like, I have no idea, and by
the end of that first or second session they're like, Oh,
this is what I'm going to go for, right, And
so yeah, I've got that group program that's been really successful.
I had the last one I ran that just finished up,
and I've started a new one. But the last one
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I had, everybody received awesome results, but one was really
cool in particular. She started the program and she identified
pretty quickly that her dream in this for this ninety
day sprint was to leave her position right at work
at work, and she was an executive right she was
working with a startup, and it just had gotten to
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the point where she hated it, right, And in a
pretty short period of time. There was a lot of
kind of toxic culture stuff going on, which unfortunately happens
a lot with startups. You know, everybody's in go mode,
so they don't even think about that human connection piece,
you know, and so there were some personality clashes, and
she's like, I just got to get out of here.
Within two weeks of starting the program, she had an
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interview with a company that was more stable, more solid,
and was ideally lined up with her her dream because
she wanted to do like a She was like, I
want to be with a mission driven you know, a
company that's focused on mental health or the underserved, like
very specific. And this thing just like appeared, right, This
opportunity appeared. And that's how it works, right, there is
(27:52):
some magic happening. We're tapping into the quantum, the quantum.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Field and.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Almost as a as a product. Right, that's not the
main focus, but we are opening up to the possibility
that when you start to focus on these things, this
startically occur. Yeah, as soon as you say I've seen
this for years, as soon as you say, okay, here's
my dream, I'm going to go for it happens. Next
is life.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's really interesting you say that, because we've been having
that happened to us the last couple of weeks, mentioning
certain things we're going to be doing, and then we
get phone calls from people.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, random right, like synchronicities.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
And like I was looking to get a hold of
this gentleman for nonprofit situation. Next thing, you know, you know,
I can't. We can't find his information. Yeah, he messages me, Hey,
how you doing.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, yeah, weird, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, yeah, well it really happens.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It really happens. And uh, there's there's so much us,
so much technology. I guess is the word under I
think we're.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think we're.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You said something about maybe not in these words, how
we're we have information overload?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh yeah, I think we might have technology overload and
combined with him from it and overloaded.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I think possibly. Yeah, I think I think that's an
important point, and I think it speaks to the the
importance of improving our human connection skills, right, because it's like, yeah,
the technology is exponentially expanding, right. Hey, I went into
the Apple store last night and tried out the new
VR headset. Yeah, have you tried it?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I've tried a VR before, but not the new Apple.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The new Apple one is like just I mean, we're
probably doing an ad form right, so far beyond anything
I've experienced, to the point where I got emotional and
I got a little overwhelmed, and I was like oh, man,
like the future's here, and I'm not sure it's serving
humans that well, right, Like there it is in some ways,
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but in other ways, there's gonna be so much opportunity
to leave our humanity behind and just get absorbed into
you know, the matrix, into well.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
What happens if the power grid goes down though.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Well, yeah, it's gonna be pretty shocking because we're gonna
have talk to each other. And that's that's a great point.
If we put so much reliance so.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It could go down hundred percent, it's pretty much a
rock and thestic situation.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean it's outdated.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think I think it's going to be really important
and this is this is you know, figuring this out
in real time. But why why I'm really starting to
focus more and speak more to coaching as like human
connection skills is because I think we want technology to
be you know, augmentation right to help us. It's very
helpful in so many ways. Right, there's great things that
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we can do with technology. But if we if we
run away with it and we leave behind our humanness,
now we have now we have problems.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
They asked James Cameron, the director, about what he thought
about what was going on with AI.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, and he says.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I tried to warn all of you back in nineteen
eighty four when I made the Terminator.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah yeah, I mean that wasn't so much AI. It
was about you know, yeah cyborgs.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah right, but as it was a prediction of technology.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Because machines were taking a takeover. Yeah, and that was
an eighty four. But it does seem to be happening.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, Oh yeah, the is happening.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I've heard militaries even had to make some run ins
and some experiences with AI that were kind of frightening
to them.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Even I mean I've heard.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Things, you know, testing missiles, things like that, and they
get questioned on the.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Authority by the I've heard this wow, like about it?
About it six months ago?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, and the AI wouldn't listen to the person telling
it what to do.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a real thing. I mean there's people
that are studying that, right, the ethics and the like,
what is it? What is artificial intelligence? Does? If it's
an intelligence, does it have rights?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
How do we treat it?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well? They think they think they do. Everybody, even even
even AI, thinks that they should have rights. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, that's right. I mean, but at some point, what's
artificial about it? I think I think appears pretty pretty smart.
So maybe it's just I it's just intelligence in different forms.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Right, right, So, so would say we're living in that
situation like you're saying, and AI is just ruling our
lives in every aspect. We go to McDonald's which I'm
not promoting McDonald's just an example, and everything's robotic.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
People are gone pretty much, there's nobody there anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And with that going on, and even cars that are
driving without with us not having to drive the car driver, food,
grocery story, and a lot of the jobs that are
being done now I think eventually going to be gone.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We'll see it in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I think we'll see it soon this year, right, It's yeah,
I think I think I think the wave of job
replacement is already here.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Okay. Yeah, so that's so.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Sometime between this year and in our lifetime, that's our prediction.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, So with that being said, what happens?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
How are we able to become transformational? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
What is it going to take for that to happen?
If all these things are being done for us?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah? Well that's a really great point, right, And this
is something that I run into with the people that
I coach, is that after a certain period of time,
that dream is done. Like, oh, the vision that I had,
now it's complete. Either it's complete because I reached all
the milestones that I set for myself, or situation has changed, right,
life has changed so much that like that dream, it
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doesn't it doesn't make sense anymore. Right, So now it's
time to go this way. You know, for example, I
got divorced right a few years ago. So my dream
in the in the family relationship realm was to have
a beautiful family, be them with them every day. And
you know, I had a lot of these visions around that,
and then when I got divorced, it was like, okay,
well that's not reality again, align yourself with reality, right, Okay,
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this isn't reality anymore. So that dream doesn't make sense anymore.
What's the new dream? So there comes a time with
every vision, with every dream, where it's time to refresh
the vision, refresh the dream. And that happens in an
individual journey, but it also happens in society.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
We have this collective dream that we've been building together
and at some point reality shifts. So oh, now, you know,
you look at the agricultural revolution, the industrial revolution, you know,
now it's like, I don't know, the AI revolution or whatever.
But at each one of those steps there was some
big shift and it was like, oh, the way we
were going that doesn't work anymore. And oftentimes that comes
(34:23):
with job losses. Sure, but it's like, Okay, I don't
have the answer, but there's definitely some big changes coming up.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh yeah, we're going.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
To have to figure out what's the new way forward.
And I think transformational coaching has a lot of technology
and a lot of ways that we can do that.
So on an individual level of coaching, one to one,
someone comes to me and says, hey, my job just
disappeared because of AI or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So what's going to happen to those individuals when those
jobs go away? Yeah, well then they have to read
retool most likely how to fix AI.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, most likely there's going to be thing you know,
And and that's the cool thing about what we could do
together is we look at, Okay, what are the skills
that you have, what are the abilities? You know, what
are your desires? Now, maybe that's changed a lot of
times people come to me when they're they have some
big life disruption because they're like, oh man, you know what,
I'm just gonna do what I really want to do now.
It's like okay, good.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
It's that kind of catalyst moment. So uh it's like
the spark you were talking about when you started this, right,
it's like COVID. Oh man, now what Right, that's a
great time to reassess and come up with the next
version of you and the version of your life. So
uh yeah, so time to retool. That's a great way
(35:40):
to say it. Right, So when you retool as a human,
it's probably something like mindset, skills or strategy. It's survival.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, yeah, you've got people depending on you.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Right yeah, and that but again that that would point
you to like, Okay, what do I need to learn?
What do I need to put together? What's what's my toolkit?
You know, what do I have to learn? What how
do I have to become to be able to continue
to provide or continue to survive and ideally thrive. So yeah,
I think there's gonna be a lot of people asking
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those questions, if not already, and I'm sure pretty soon,
you know, a lot of people. What's that next adaptation?
And I think we've been through this before as humans,
you know, as a human family. So it's gonna be okay,
there's gonna be you know, some new way forward for
people that have lost their jobs and what they were
(36:33):
doing is no longer relevant. And I think what we're
gonna see, I mean this is my own prediction, but
I think we'll see this resurgence of community of I hope,
people coming together.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Hope.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
What else is you know, at some point, what else
is left?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, there's war, civil war.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well that's true too, but largely that will probably be
fought by robots and AI and stuff like that. I
mean even now like cyber wars or really what's happened, Sure,
that's happening. So so yeah, there will always be military, probably.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Just a different way that it's being run.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Different way it's being run. And and you know, when
all of the task oriented things and anything that can
be programmed, which is a lot of the jobs that
are out there now can just be made into a
computer program anything like that that goes away. It is
a thing that robots do better. That's why I would
(37:29):
go away. But the only thing that robots can't do
is be human, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that gets
into a deeper realm. Right, let's talk about about let's.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Talk about let's talk about something we This has really
gone fast. I can't believe we've been on over thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, yea.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So we have a huge Homer's veteran population, yeah, in
the country, and we live in San Diego. So how
much could transformational coaching.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Help the homeless?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Person a fish DAT for a day, show them out
of fish d for a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, that's a good question. I I don't know a
lot about the I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Are there things that that could do possibly to help?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I mean, for sure this is combined with.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Medication, of course, working with you know, it would take
a team, right.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It would definitely take a team, I think. Yeah, I
think there's likely some mental health issues happening, right, and
like you said, maybe some opportunities for medication. I'm I'm
not a big fan of big pharma, but there are
times when that can help, especially in the interim. But
I think the approach could definitely be informed and assisted
(38:43):
by the concepts of transformational coaching, right, or the concepts
of transformation.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I would see. I like it this way.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
People that have alcoholic issues go to AA and they
have a set of rules to follow, Yeah, and if
they follow it, and it's not an easy thing to do,
but it seems like it's had a lot of success
to the years. Yeah, there has to be something in place,
I think with transformational coaching and for people that are
really down on their luck like that and having you know, issues.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yep, Yeah, for sure. I think there's there's a step
by step approach, right AA. It's twelve steps, and then
there's like infinite number of other programs based on that
same platform. And Yeah, having some kind of step by
step approach with transformational coaching, at least the way I
do it. One of the biggest themes is judgment free awareness.
(39:34):
Judgment free, judgment free awareness. This is something that we're
always practicing. When you can get to a skillful level
with judgment free awareness, everything becomes easier, right. And that's
something that I know is a component of the twelve
step programs is you know the community that's around you.
Like most of the time, the people that are in
that community know what it's like, they have gone through
(39:55):
what you've gone through. Maybe they've even gone through worse, right,
so they accelp you.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
It helps.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, they accept to you as as who you are
and how you are and then and then they just
are there to guide you. So there is a lot
of overlap between the twelve second program and transformational coaching.
It isn't in and of itself a transformational program.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
It is Is there anything coming up that you want
to share with the audience?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Do you have coming up?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Check my notes here. Well, what I have coming up
is I have another Amplifier Dreams ninety day group coming
up starting in the beginning of the year, so I'm
starting to take yeh January, so I'm starting to take
applications for that and talk to people. The best way
to check that out is just to go to the
website devilincoaching dot com.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What is the cost? What does the cost for it?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's two ninety seven a month, that's all. Yeah, that's it.
You're kidding, Yeah, nope. For listeners of the show.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That's fantastic ninety seven has nothing to change your life.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
So is there is it provide a Do you have
a booklet or a book that comes with it?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Or lessons yeah, I've got some got some assets that
to share, you know, some different tools and and things
that people can apply to their own life and then
we move through it together as well. So does require
a lot of work, I wouldn't say it's a lot
of work, right. So the cool thing about the way
that I've crafted this is that it becomes it integrates
(41:16):
with what you're doing already. That's the whole point, right
is whatever you're doing already or you want to be doing,
we're going to amplify that. It's in the title amplify
your dreams, right. So it's not meant to be like
an extra curriculum or an extra course load that you
have to take on, but it is going to support you.
And there's there's some things right that you're going to
be doing, but but they're mainly things that are going
(41:38):
to help you to actually do what you've been wanting
to do.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
So I'm excited. I might be interested.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah cool, Yeah, we can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I might be interested. That might be something that I'll
start to New year yeah with.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, it's a phenomenal program. We're got a cohort going
right now and OK's having a yeah, good time.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
So thank you for taking time to be here.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I hope you had a great time. Hope you didn't
get get off topic too much.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I mean we could go down some serious rabbit holes,
but I think we did pretty good and keeping it onsk.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Have you have you written any books.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I've contributed to a couple of books, but I haven't
written my own yet, but it is in the works.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Robert Garcia is a good person to work with on that.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, there'll be there'll be some stuff coming. We're
working on some uh some programs and some some ebooks
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So good. Yeah, Okay, I appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Nick, Yeah, thank you, Brett.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Appreciate everybody.
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Thank you for being involved.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
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the event is December the eighth. You can send the
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not giving you much time by Friday, and this thing
will fill it quick and it's going to be quite
the Christmas event, holiday event. And you're all welcome to
come as long as we have seats. Take care and
be good to each other, and God bless
Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I've read Davis coming to you from the beautiful blue
Lapis Media Studio in Cornado, and I'm very honored today.
One of our recipients is actually here with us, who
took time out of his busy schedule, Nick Devlin, who
is a transformational coach, and he just received our award
the service and sacrifice Guardian of Guardian that guardian, Guardian
(00:23):
of freedom.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I say that right, Sarah, good, nice, Thanks for being here. Yeah,
thank you, and thank you for your service and for
all that you have done and continue to do.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, thanks for your support.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Your your speech that you gave, your talk, whatever you
want to call it was very heartfelt and I think
everybody in the audience really loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, No, it was a great, great honor to be
there and see the award.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And you have a great support system.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, you brought everybody up on the stage and I
was like, wow, So tell me about some of that
some of that group, How do you know most of
those people.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Most of those people are just in community here in
San Diego, just friends of mine and.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Very nice people. I talked to a lot of a
few of them.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hell, they talked a little bit all seemed very nice,
seemed to care about you a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, it's a good crew, very nice.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So right now, we were just talking a little bit
bit before the podcast. Why do you think right now
transformational coaching is more vital than ever?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, one of the big things that I focus on
my coaching is human connection. And I feel like that's
kind of one of the biggest opportunities that we have
just as a society at this point, especially with the
way things are going with AI and all this divisiveness
and separateness happening in the world. I think there's a
really big opportunity for all of us to improve our
(01:45):
connection skills, right, your human connection, And that's one of
the one of the biggest things that I focus on
as a coach, to go from this transformation of like
isolated and alone and separate to you know, how do
we function together? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So, why do you think there's so much divisiveness? What
do you think it's all? Where does that all come from?
And do you think it's curable?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Uh? Yeah, I do think it's curable. I think that
I think that's a big challenge they were facing. But
it's like we were talking about before. I think that
we've all kind of been raised in this industrial mindset,
command and control and hierarchy and domination, and you know,
and it's just not a very human way to live,
(02:33):
not a very human way to be to be raised,
you know. And most of us were when we were children,
you know, the natural thing to do as a child
is want to go play and mimic your caregivers or
your parents or whatever, right and learn how to become adults.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
One of the biggest things that kids do is play,
pretend And what do you do in your playing? Oh,
let's play, let's play work, let's play school, let's play
you know, do all these things. Uh, And there's some
opportunity to do that, but I think we've increasingly got
away from that, and it's become this really isolated family unit.
And then kids get to school age, it's like, okay,
here's all the kids, you know, and then they get
(03:09):
into the classroom and it's like you sit in your seat,
you face forward, everybody's competing for attention from this one adult,
and it's just a very dystopian kind of way to
be as a kid. The kids that want to play
and that are restless, you know, we medicate them and
tell them they got ADHD and their special needs, and
it's just it's just really not natural.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you find a lot of those individuals that have
that are very gifted and very talented, and then maybe
we're stopping them from really being who they could be.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Absolutely. I mean I'm a firm believer that every human
has their own kind of unique superpowers, and I think
people that we classify as having disabilities these days have
some astonishing potential that we just maybe aren't ready to
recognize or realize. But yeah, and that's that's part of
(03:57):
what I do as well, right as a transformational coach,
is help you discover more of yourself, help you discover
those superpowers that are have inherently.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So well, we have a mutual friend that's watched, Actually
have a lot of people watching, but one of our
mutual friends is Robert Garcia. Yeah, so nice to see you, Rob, Rob,
I ever forgotten you. We'll be in touch pretty soon.
We'll be seeing you and thank you for all that
you do. And and he had a huge impact on
that event, and I think he I think everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
He seems like he's very popular.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, Yeah, it's been really helpful for me.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Good. Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So a lot of a lot of famous inventors and
people throughout history probably had some type of challenge going on,
I would think, and I don't think they probably were medicated.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I didn't really know how to deal with it. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that's you know, there's the what does it real?
They say, it's like the eccentricity, right, like you're either
either a genius or crazy, and you know this is
a fine line in between.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Pretty close, pretty close. Yeah. Uh So.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
With that being said, how do you how does it
work out to say somebody feels they need some transformation?
Is there a criteria? Is there a certain type of
individual you look to work for? Do you work with everybody?
Or are you very picky?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know, that's that's an ongoing evolution for me and
refining who it is that that I'm really meant to
work with. And so it's been I can work with anyone, well,
anyone in any demographic, in any different position. A lot
of what I bring our principles of transformation, principles of
(05:37):
of becoming and growing and all of those things can
be applied to anyone. But it's it's really about who's
going to resonate with me? And like who you know,
who's gonna vibe with my style? And that's changed a
little bit. I've helped veterans, I've helped female professionals, entrepreneurs, executives,
(05:58):
I've helped men have So it's kind of across the board.
Right now, I'm I'm starting to dial it in and
and it seems like right now I'm really pointing towards
young salesman. That's really what seems like my you know,
my clientele or my players. I call my players, right
because the coach has players.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You play chess, also, I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I have, but I'm not an avid. I'm not avid.
Yeah yeah, but uh yeah. Right now, it looks like
it's it's that kind of demographic. And what's really cool
about that is, you know, these young men are coming
out of college or whatever and they're trying to figure
out life, right, they're just kind of becoming becoming young men,
(06:43):
becoming professionals, and especially when they're in sales, like this
is a really that's kind of like sink or swim,
right with sales, there's unlimited upside, but it's a really
challenging occupation because it immediately faces you with your biggest fear, right,
which is like the cold call, Like, oh my god,
(07:04):
I's got to pick up the phone and just talk
to somebody. And so again when we go back to
human connection, it's like we weren't taught how to talk
to somebody when we were kids, right, And so yeah,
so there's a lot of opportunity there. But it's cool
because once we get them kind of feeling more free
internally and really able to like dance with that fear
(07:26):
that comes up, now they're on fire. Right. So I
have some guys who are like, oh yeah, I'll pick
up the phone one hundred times a day, two hundred times.
Oh yeah, yeah, And they started, you know, a few
months ago at like I don't want to pick up.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The phoneah, because I think rejection and failure is probably
something that is not a normal thing for people to
be able to adapt to.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Totally well, and it's something we all deal with, right.
This is so I operate based on a couple of
different frameworks. But there's one called the social play framework,
and then there's the social fear. It goes along with that, right.
So play is like I'm getting out there to explore,
see and be seen and just you know, see what's
out there, right, And then there's relating, So okay, I'm
(08:05):
gonna relate for influence, right, And then there's uh uh create, Right,
I'm gonna create something and share it with somebody and
invite them to it. And and then there's play or experiment. Right,
it's gonna go for it. And each one of those
has fear associated with it. Fear of rejection, fear of
making mistake, fear of disappointing someone, you know, fear of
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getting into trouble. And then beneath those are all the
like I'm not enough and those kind of right, So
we're really dealing with this like subconscious treasure chest of beliefs.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So we're we're kind of our own worst enemies.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
By said, we kind of sabotage ourselves because of these
these fears.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So yeah, I love I love this, I love this topic.
So that's really popular to say, like, oh, on my
own worst enemy, I gotta get out of my own way, right,
self sabotage, And that's it's actually been popularized by the
personal growth industry, right, But that to me is actually
completely wrong thinking and sets you up for failure. I
(09:13):
was like, Oh, I got to figure out this self sabotage.
But that sets up this like conflict within, Like, oh,
I've got this enemy within that's trying to take me down.
And that's just not true, right at least in my philosophy,
and my premise is that you're born awesome, You're born whole,
and then you go through all these experiences in this
culture that kind of squish you and squash and dampened
(09:35):
superpowers and you know, get you to operate more in
this like robot mode, you know. But if the truth
is you're awesome and whole already, then there can't be
some part of you that's trying to take you out, right,
There's just a part of you that's trying to keep
you safe. And so instead of self sabotage, I call
it self preservation. And this is how it was trained
(09:55):
as a coach, and this is my own personal belief too.
But self preservation, now, that sets up a totally different
dynamic because we can work with that, Oh, there's a
part of you that loves you, that wants to keep
you safe and you know, take care of you. Great,
what's going on there?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And so that's what all fear and fear adjacent experiences,
which are like overwhelmed, procrastination, frustration, avoidance, right, resistance, all
that stuff is related to fear. And the fear is
coming up because you did something once or a bunch
of times, and every time you did it, or that
one time you did it, you got smacked by life. Right,
(10:33):
maybe smacked by a caretaker who knows, right, but the
point is like you were just being yourself and then
you got some kind of uncomfortable experience. So your subconscious
takes that and runs with it and goes, all right,
I'm gonna make up a rule here, like I don't
want to feel that again, so let's not do whatever
(10:53):
led to that, right, And then we just keep doing
this and we keep making up all these rules, and
eventually we get to a point in our life where
we're called forth right by a challenge. It it's time
to step up, speak up, do whatever, and we're tapping
into that that superpower that we were doing before. But
now the fear comes with it too and goes, don't
do that. Remember last time you tried something like this, right,
(11:17):
And that's all we're looking at, right, that's some of
the most powerful, potent things that we can do together
in transformational coaching is connect to those experiences and go, okay,
let's let's unpack that, right, Let's let's pull on some
of these threads. Now, what's different about this? And like therapy, right,
because therapy great for going back and oh what happened there?
(11:38):
And you know, unpacking the stories.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And sometimes look like people don't even remember.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's another thing. So it's great. I'm
studying this stuff right now on a deeper level with
a friend of mine. And our subconscious supposedly records everything perfectly, right,
So there's a part of us that perfect has perfect
memory of everything that we've experienced. But we have a
recall system in our brain that's limited, right. It starts
(12:03):
to batch things and group things because it's just too
much information, right, So we don't recall properly and sometimes
not at all, especially with a lot of the hard stuff.
The difference between like therapy and coaching is in coaching,
some of the past stuff is likely to come up
based off this idea, right where hey, I went and
I tried something and then I didn't do it, you know,
(12:26):
I avoided it, or I meaning to do this thing.
I'm just not doing it. I don't know why. That's
self sabotage, right, which we know now is self preservation.
That when that comes up, we're likely going to glance
at something that happened in the past, But then we're
going to look forward, right, and we're going to go, Okay, great,
that happened. What were you trying to express? That's probably
(12:50):
what's needed now. But back then you didn't have the
skill to express it properly.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Back then you didn't wield it properly. Now what do
you need so that you can skillfully express this unique
strength of yours? Right? And how can we wield this
more properly?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And so it's cool because now you have the experience
of life and you know, okay, it's time to use this. Uh,
you know it's time to play bigger by using your superpowers.
And now you get to practice with a coach using
that that ability.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So your former military, Yeah, and how much of this
stuff did you know before you went into the military
and how much did you learn during or after?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Uh, which branch were you in?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I was in an army a seventy fifth Ranger Regiment
first bataliyank.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You for your service in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh look we got one of all right, thank you,
thank you in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yep. Yeah good food.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So so you you learned the rate you become a ranger.
Did you always know you wanted to be a ranger
or how did that happen?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I always knew I wanted to be military, you know
when I was a young kid. I remember, you know,
I played with g I Joe's. My grandfather was first
Division Marine World War Two, you know, and had some
of my dad's friends were Vietnam vets, and so it
was always kind of around and I just I really
admired that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I did.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know. It was a lot of great military movies
and stuff war movies that came out, you know when
I was a kid, and so I was just like
hook Line and Sinker, you know. Back then, the Army
slogan was be all you can be, you know, And
I think that's a clue for me, right, that whole
like be all you can be. I mean, now I'm
a transformational coach. It's like that's always been a theme
for me. I want to be the best that I
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can do.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So, going going in, how much of this did you
kind of get an idea about I think you did
a little bit anyway, And then how much more did
you learn with the mindset of being a ranger?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's such a good question. I've been reflecting
on that recently, right, because it's been it's been twelve
and a half years since I got out, right, so
sixteen will call it. Sixteen years from when I started
becoming a ranger to now, and I've been studying high performance,
you know, human potential basically, right starting with joining the military.
(15:14):
And so even before the military, I was I was
a kind of question reality, question authority kind of guy. Right,
I was like, I don't know, you know, I was
curious about life and I always wanted to be the
best that I could be. So there was a little
bit of that vibe already which led me to arrange
a regiment, And in regiment, I really had the experience
(15:35):
of what does it take to be like the top, right,
the top one percent individually, but also what does it
take to be a really high performance team?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right? So it just individual and teams can two different things.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
It is some people are not good team players, right,
exactly and so excelling everybody excels even more.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Right, And that's the cool thing about coaching, right is
it looking at it? We look at it from all
these angles. It's like, okay, let's go in. How do
you become the best version of you? And what is
the next version of you available? But then how do
you create the environment that's an environment of success? Right?
So that's being surrounded by people, places and things that
support you, that celebrate you, that you know you can
(16:15):
be yourself, right?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And so are there's some people just not meant to
be part of a team because they are such an
individual and they're better off doing individual type things.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Or can that be changed?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
That's a really good question. You know, I haven't thought
too much about that. I think that we can always
change and adapt and become better at whatever game we
just have to play. You have to You got to
want it, right, Yeah, you gotta want it. And I
would say it's the exception that there's somebody that is
better off by their own, you know, by themselves. You know,
(16:47):
maybe like an Alex Hunnold, like the guy that reresoloed
l CAP. You know, there's certain types of individuals that
are just like they're so dialed in. But then again,
he's a family man now, and you know, he has
has a crew and guys out and so I don't know,
there's probably a spectrum of like, hey, you know, eighty
percent of the time he's really good on his own,
but then he you know, needs this or some people
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that are at the other end of that spectrum.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, So do you get a lot of people that
are well, you see, you're getting a lot of salespeople
ever salespeople, So that's part of a team. Yeah, I
mean yeah, I mean they have to go out and
do the work. But what makes that part of a
team of the R salesperson? I mean, there is an
individual aspect, but well.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It's looking at the whole ecosystem, right, So it's it's
everything from like how's your family relationships to you know,
how's your relationship with your coworkers.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like a lot of the difference, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, A lot of the folks that I deal with,
they're dealing with both the customers and suppliers, right, and
then they're making deals within the office, and you know,
and then they're interacting with their manager and you know,
customers and So even if you're like the solo realtor
of the year or you know, a salesperson of the year,
wherever you are, there's other people involved, and the better
(18:03):
you are at connecting with those other people, the better
your business is going to do and the better your
life is going to be.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
True. So is that a serious questions that you wanted
to go over this talk about?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
This was this was just some stuff about Uh, just
kind of curious about the podcast and you know your
listeners and what how can best serve them?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And I think everybody's trying to find something that is trying.
I mean, transformation should never stop.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think it's something you take with you. You have to
continue to be a student.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and revisit it because things are changing.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We talked about this earlier all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah, things are changing all the time.
And like we talked about before, this was no matter
what's happening, this is this is my This is kind
of like my message to the world based off of
my life and what I've everything I've been through is
that anything is possible. Anything is possible, and life is
(18:58):
happening for you. Every day is a gift and I
mentioned that in my tht that that perspective will serve
anyone very well. Everything that's going on right now. The
world's the world's crazy at times, right, but it is
what it is, like we said, So, okay, align with
reality as much as you can understand that this is
(19:19):
the situation and everybody has their own lens that they're
looking at it through, right, so what I see might
not be seen the same way by the guy next
to me, and allow for that to be paradoxical if
it is right? And uh, and then have a vision
for yourself, right. Step one, Have a vision for where
(19:43):
you're going, what you want your life to look like.
You gotta see it. But once you see it you
can do it. Then well, you got to work on
believing it. That's the middle step and that's something that
we do a lot of stuff with coaching, is is
that belief level, right, like what's possible?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You got to that belief, then you got to see it,
and then you have to probably have the steps on
how to get there.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, I'm sure seeing it's not just enough.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Right, right, And that's where it comes in. Okay, you
got a vision, great, let's get a plan together.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, I'm investing.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, what's your dream, what's your Well.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I'll give you example when we do the events. I
really Sarah and I talked about this. I didn't. We
never We never talked about this, which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
A couple of days ago, and she was talking about
she sees everything happening. She sees the event, the people
coming in, the music playing, you know, what's the flowers
on the table.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I mean, she's very detailed. Did I leave anything else out? Okay?
And I I kind of do that too. We never
really talked about it, but.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I mean I could see, you know, rober Garcia coming
up talking to me. I see us taking a picture together,
you know, I see uh, some mishaps happening, because things always.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Happened by the scenes.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, but I it's almost like watching a video or
you know, I can see in my mind the way
even like the way we're doing things talking right now,
I can really see that in my mind.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I can already see all that happening.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Visualized to achieve.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, it's one of my favorite topics. And so so
I would guess that you guys both have some kind
of powers of clairvoyance, right, and we're talking about superpowers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think you're going to say because of the legalization
of marijuana.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Oh yeah, well that's that helps. Sometimes I'm open to
all tools for transformation.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Is that clairvoyant?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Sorry about that, Yeah, but no, it's it's really I mean,
there's so many different levels of superpowers, and you know,
site and audio cla what do you call it? Audio voyance?
I mean there's all these different things that you know,
you could say they're in the psychic realm. You know,
I believe that this is this.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is this is not as scientific as I thought it
was going to be. You're adding you're adding.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
A spiritual aspect to transformation, which I've always believed that
there has to be something spiritual. Yeah, clairvoyance I never
would have thought about. Yeah, so you're you know, you've
achieved a lot and you've seen a lot your former
background in the military being a ranger, and I'm sure
you apply everything in your life to that. With all
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the information you had as being a ranger. What else
have you added to all that knowledge you already had
after you left the service?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Man, did you just go crazy and start looking at
different religious beliefs?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, did you look more into meditation. Were you
always in a meditation?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Do you believe in goals, deadlines, things like that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's great. Good question. So when I got
out of the military, I had just recently gotten married,
married while I was in started a family, my first
kid right after I got out, and I basically went
into survival mode, you know, which is a strength of mine. Right,
I will persevere, I will survive anything. And it's and
(23:13):
it's great because it gives me a sense of calm,
I know. You know, however chaot here gets I'm gonna
I'm gonna be fine, and even if it takes me out, Okay,
I'm good, right, I'm okay with my mortal.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Even if it takes you out.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've very much come to terms with
with my mortal.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So you know, when everything's going crazy, you're probably staying
calm and everybody else is losing.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Their ship usually.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, But it was a practice to get to that point, right,
I had that mentality. But what shifted for me over
the years is moving from like a very like control
based way to stay calm, you know, uh, to like
full acceptance and like it's it's all gonna be okay,
Like everything is happening right now is a gift and
(23:56):
it's for me. Like I mentioned, so when I got out,
you know, I went into survival mode as I got
a job right away, right back into engineering. And I
mean literally like I had terminal leave, and I had
like thirty days of terminal leave. Three days after I
was out of the military. I was already working, you know, Yeah,
three days. I couldn't sit still on vacation. I couldn't
(24:17):
go on vacation, you know. And looking back now, I
was running. I was running from a lot of stuff
that was built up physically, mentally. I was really I
had a lot to work through when I got out
of the military. But I went right into you know,
take care, provide, take care of the family, and for
a couple of years that was my focus. It was
(24:38):
a really tough transition for me. There weren't a lot
of resources at that time to help you, you know,
successfully transition. I still think it's pretty it's pretty wanting.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Once we were talking about earlier, the.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Getting out of the military part, we talked, I just
talked briefly about the job part.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, but you just touched on something that we might.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Need at that event next year, which is you know,
being able to talk to people that are leaving the
military and say, hey, did you think about this?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This kind be going on with you? Are you running
from something or are you running running towards something?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, that's a cool idea.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I think I think we have maybe.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You have a transformational coach on site.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
You could do maybe a talk maybe and then maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Talk to some of the booth or something, and just
we've been interested in that. I think I think that's
a good fit.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So yeah, yeah, I love to support folks getting out.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So currently, so currently working with Now are you doing
lectures or is just this through the internet or how
are you working with individuals? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
So I do. I have a group program. It's called
Amplifier Dreams, and that's uh yeah, that's a group journey
three months long. Three months, yeah, three months, ninety days
and we'll meet every week and we focus in on
a piece of the method that that I'm developing. Basically,
it is called the Love your Life method, and it's
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built off of different methods that I've studied in my
coaching that I've been trained in as well as my
own life experiences and like again, it starts with have
a dream, right, have a vision. So that's the first
couple sessions. We really focus in on what is it
you want to create. We've got some really cool, playful
ways to extract that to the point where sometimes people
(26:24):
show up they're like, I have no idea, and by
the end of that first or second session they're like, Oh,
this is what I'm going to go for, right, And
so yeah, I've got that group program that's been really successful.
I had the last one I ran that just finished up,
and I've started a new one. But the last one
(26:44):
I had, everybody received awesome results, but one was really
cool in particular. She started the program and she identified
pretty quickly that her dream in this for this ninety
day sprint was to leave her position right at work
at work, and she was an executive right she was
working with a startup, and it just had gotten to
(27:07):
the point where she hated it, right, And in a
pretty short period of time. There was a lot of
kind of toxic culture stuff going on, which unfortunately happens
a lot with startups. You know, everybody's in go mode,
so they don't even think about that human connection piece,
you know, and so there were some personality clashes, and
she's like, I just got to get out of here.
Within two weeks of starting the program, she had an
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interview with a company that was more stable, more solid,
and was ideally lined up with her her dream because
she wanted to do like a She was like, I
want to be with a mission driven you know, a
company that's focused on mental health or the underserved, like
very specific. And this thing just like appeared, right, This
opportunity appeared. And that's how it works, right, there is
(27:52):
some magic happening. We're tapping into the quantum, the quantum.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Field and.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Almost as a as a product. Right, that's not the
main focus, but we are opening up to the possibility
that when you start to focus on these things, this
startically occur. Yeah, as soon as you say I've seen
this for years, as soon as you say, okay, here's
my dream, I'm going to go for it happens. Next
is life.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's really interesting you say that, because we've been having
that happened to us the last couple of weeks, mentioning
certain things we're going to be doing, and then we
get phone calls from people.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah, random right, like synchronicities.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
And like I was looking to get a hold of
this gentleman for nonprofit situation. Next thing, you know, you know,
I can't. We can't find his information. Yeah, he messages me, Hey,
how you doing.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, yeah, weird, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, yeah, well it really happens.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It really happens. And uh, there's there's so much us,
so much technology. I guess is the word under I
think we're.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think we're.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You said something about maybe not in these words, how
we're we have information overload?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh yeah, I think we might have technology overload and
combined with him from it and overloaded.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I think possibly. Yeah, I think I think that's an
important point, and I think it speaks to the the
importance of improving our human connection skills, right, because it's like, yeah,
the technology is exponentially expanding, right. Hey, I went into
the Apple store last night and tried out the new
VR headset. Yeah, have you tried it?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I've tried a VR before, but not the new Apple.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The new Apple one is like just I mean, we're
probably doing an ad form right, so far beyond anything
I've experienced, to the point where I got emotional and
I got a little overwhelmed, and I was like oh, man,
like the future's here, and I'm not sure it's serving
humans that well, right, Like there it is in some ways,
(29:42):
but in other ways, there's gonna be so much opportunity
to leave our humanity behind and just get absorbed into
you know, the matrix, into well.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
What happens if the power grid goes down though.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Well, yeah, it's gonna be pretty shocking because we're gonna
have talk to each other. And that's that's a great point.
If we put so much reliance so.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It could go down hundred percent, it's pretty much a
rock and thestic situation.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean it's outdated.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think I think it's going to be really important
and this is this is you know, figuring this out
in real time. But why why I'm really starting to
focus more and speak more to coaching as like human
connection skills is because I think we want technology to
be you know, augmentation right to help us. It's very
helpful in so many ways. Right, there's great things that
(30:28):
we can do with technology. But if we if we
run away with it and we leave behind our humanness,
now we have now we have problems.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
They asked James Cameron, the director, about what he thought
about what was going on with AI.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, and he says.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I tried to warn all of you back in nineteen
eighty four when I made the Terminator.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah yeah, I mean that wasn't so much AI. It
was about you know, yeah cyborgs.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah right, but as it was a prediction of technology.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Because machines were taking a takeover. Yeah, and that was
an eighty four. But it does seem to be happening.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, Oh yeah, the is happening.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I've heard militaries even had to make some run ins
and some experiences with AI that were kind of frightening
to them.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Even I mean I've heard.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Things, you know, testing missiles, things like that, and they
get questioned on the.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Authority by the I've heard this wow, like about it?
About it six months ago?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, and the AI wouldn't listen to the person telling
it what to do.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a real thing. I mean there's people
that are studying that, right, the ethics and the like,
what is it? What is artificial intelligence? Does? If it's
an intelligence, does it have rights?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
How do we treat it?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well? They think they think they do. Everybody, even even
even AI, thinks that they should have rights. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, that's right. I mean, but at some point, what's
artificial about it? I think I think appears pretty pretty smart.
So maybe it's just I it's just intelligence in different forms.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Right, right, So, so would say we're living in that
situation like you're saying, and AI is just ruling our
lives in every aspect. We go to McDonald's which I'm
not promoting McDonald's just an example, and everything's robotic.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
People are gone pretty much, there's nobody there anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And with that going on, and even cars that are
driving without with us not having to drive the car driver, food,
grocery story, and a lot of the jobs that are
being done now I think eventually going to be gone.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We'll see it in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I think we'll see it soon this year, right, It's yeah,
I think I think I think the wave of job
replacement is already here.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Okay. Yeah, so that's so.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Sometime between this year and in our lifetime, that's our prediction.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, So with that being said, what happens?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
How are we able to become transformational? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
What is it going to take for that to happen?
If all these things are being done for us?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah? Well that's a really great point, right, And this
is something that I run into with the people that
I coach, is that after a certain period of time,
that dream is done. Like, oh, the vision that I had,
now it's complete. Either it's complete because I reached all
the milestones that I set for myself, or situation has changed, right,
life has changed so much that like that dream, it
(33:25):
doesn't it doesn't make sense anymore. Right, So now it's
time to go this way. You know, for example, I
got divorced right a few years ago. So my dream
in the in the family relationship realm was to have
a beautiful family, be them with them every day. And
you know, I had a lot of these visions around that,
and then when I got divorced, it was like, okay,
well that's not reality again, align yourself with reality, right, Okay,
(33:46):
this isn't reality anymore. So that dream doesn't make sense anymore.
What's the new dream? So there comes a time with
every vision, with every dream, where it's time to refresh
the vision, refresh the dream. And that happens in an
individual journey, but it also happens in society.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
We have this collective dream that we've been building together
and at some point reality shifts. So oh, now, you know,
you look at the agricultural revolution, the industrial revolution, you know,
now it's like, I don't know, the AI revolution or whatever.
But at each one of those steps there was some
big shift and it was like, oh, the way we
were going that doesn't work anymore. And oftentimes that comes
(34:23):
with job losses. Sure, but it's like, Okay, I don't
have the answer, but there's definitely some big changes coming up.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh yeah, we're going.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
To have to figure out what's the new way forward.
And I think transformational coaching has a lot of technology
and a lot of ways that we can do that.
So on an individual level of coaching, one to one,
someone comes to me and says, hey, my job just
disappeared because of AI or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So what's going to happen to those individuals when those
jobs go away? Yeah, well then they have to read
retool most likely how to fix AI.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, most likely there's going to be thing you know,
And and that's the cool thing about what we could do
together is we look at, Okay, what are the skills
that you have, what are the abilities? You know, what
are your desires? Now, maybe that's changed a lot of
times people come to me when they're they have some
big life disruption because they're like, oh man, you know what,
I'm just gonna do what I really want to do now.
It's like okay, good.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
It's that kind of catalyst moment. So uh it's like
the spark you were talking about when you started this, right,
it's like COVID. Oh man, now what Right, that's a
great time to reassess and come up with the next
version of you and the version of your life. So
uh yeah, so time to retool. That's a great way
(35:40):
to say it. Right, So when you retool as a human,
it's probably something like mindset, skills or strategy. It's survival.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, yeah, you've got people depending on you.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Right yeah, and that but again that that would point
you to like, Okay, what do I need to learn?
What do I need to put together? What's what's my toolkit?
You know, what do I have to learn? What how
do I have to become to be able to continue
to provide or continue to survive and ideally thrive. So yeah,
I think there's gonna be a lot of people asking
(36:11):
those questions, if not already, and I'm sure pretty soon,
you know, a lot of people. What's that next adaptation?
And I think we've been through this before as humans,
you know, as a human family. So it's gonna be okay,
there's gonna be you know, some new way forward for
people that have lost their jobs and what they were
(36:33):
doing is no longer relevant. And I think what we're
gonna see, I mean this is my own prediction, but
I think we'll see this resurgence of community of I hope,
people coming together.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Hope.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
What else is you know, at some point, what else
is left?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, there's war, civil war.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well that's true too, but largely that will probably be
fought by robots and AI and stuff like that. I
mean even now like cyber wars or really what's happened, Sure,
that's happening. So so yeah, there will always be military, probably.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Just a different way that it's being run.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Different way it's being run. And and you know, when
all of the task oriented things and anything that can
be programmed, which is a lot of the jobs that
are out there now can just be made into a
computer program anything like that that goes away. It is
a thing that robots do better. That's why I would
(37:29):
go away. But the only thing that robots can't do
is be human, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that gets
into a deeper realm. Right, let's talk about about let's.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Talk about let's talk about something we This has really
gone fast. I can't believe we've been on over thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, yea.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So we have a huge Homer's veteran population, yeah, in
the country, and we live in San Diego. So how
much could transformational coaching.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Help the homeless?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Person a fish DAT for a day, show them out
of fish d for a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, that's a good question. I I don't know a
lot about the I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Are there things that that could do possibly to help?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I mean, for sure this is combined with.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Medication, of course, working with you know, it would take
a team, right.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It would definitely take a team, I think. Yeah, I
think there's likely some mental health issues happening, right, and
like you said, maybe some opportunities for medication. I'm I'm
not a big fan of big pharma, but there are
times when that can help, especially in the interim. But
I think the approach could definitely be informed and assisted
(38:43):
by the concepts of transformational coaching, right, or the concepts
of transformation.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I would see. I like it this way.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
People that have alcoholic issues go to AA and they
have a set of rules to follow, Yeah, and if
they follow it, and it's not an easy thing to do,
but it seems like it's had a lot of success
to the years. Yeah, there has to be something in place,
I think with transformational coaching and for people that are
really down on their luck like that and having you know, issues.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yep, Yeah, for sure. I think there's there's a step
by step approach, right AA. It's twelve steps, and then
there's like infinite number of other programs based on that
same platform. And Yeah, having some kind of step by
step approach with transformational coaching, at least the way I
do it. One of the biggest themes is judgment free awareness.
(39:34):
Judgment free, judgment free awareness. This is something that we're
always practicing. When you can get to a skillful level
with judgment free awareness, everything becomes easier, right. And that's
something that I know is a component of the twelve
step programs is you know the community that's around you.
Like most of the time, the people that are in
that community know what it's like, they have gone through
(39:55):
what you've gone through. Maybe they've even gone through worse, right,
so they accelp you.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
It helps.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, they accept to you as as who you are
and how you are and then and then they just
are there to guide you. So there is a lot
of overlap between the twelve second program and transformational coaching.
It isn't in and of itself a transformational program.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
It is Is there anything coming up that you want
to share with the audience?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Do you have coming up?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Check my notes here. Well, what I have coming up
is I have another Amplifier Dreams ninety day group coming
up starting in the beginning of the year, so I'm
starting to take yeh January, so I'm starting to take
applications for that and talk to people. The best way
to check that out is just to go to the
website devilincoaching dot com.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What is the cost? What does the cost for it?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's two ninety seven a month, that's all. Yeah, that's it.
You're kidding, Yeah, nope. For listeners of the show.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That's fantastic ninety seven has nothing to change your life.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
So is there is it provide a Do you have
a booklet or a book that comes with it?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Or lessons yeah, I've got some got some assets that
to share, you know, some different tools and and things
that people can apply to their own life and then
we move through it together as well. So does require
a lot of work, I wouldn't say it's a lot
of work, right. So the cool thing about the way
that I've crafted this is that it becomes it integrates
(41:16):
with what you're doing already. That's the whole point, right
is whatever you're doing already or you want to be doing,
we're going to amplify that. It's in the title amplify
your dreams, right. So it's not meant to be like
an extra curriculum or an extra course load that you
have to take on, but it is going to support you.
And there's there's some things right that you're going to
be doing, but but they're mainly things that are going
(41:38):
to help you to actually do what you've been wanting
to do.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
So I'm excited. I might be interested.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah cool, Yeah, we can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I might be interested. That might be something that I'll
start to New year yeah with.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, it's a phenomenal program. We're got a cohort going
right now and OK's having a yeah, good time.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
So thank you for taking time to be here.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I hope you had a great time. Hope you didn't
get get off topic too much.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I mean we could go down some serious rabbit holes,
but I think we did pretty good and keeping it onsk.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Have you have you written any books.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I've contributed to a couple of books, but I haven't
written my own yet, but it is in the works.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Robert Garcia is a good person to work with on that.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, there'll be there'll be some stuff coming. We're
working on some uh some programs and some some ebooks
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So good. Yeah, Okay, I appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Nick, Yeah, thank you, Brett.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Appreciate everybody.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
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Speaker 1 (42:48):
Thank you for being involved.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
We have our big event coming up December the eighth
for people in education and if there's somebody in education
that you feel is worthy and needs to be recognized,
the event is December the eighth. You can send the
information to I'm gonna give you my personal email Brett
Davis twenty twenty at yahoo dot com by Friday. You're
(43:11):
not giving you much time by Friday, and this thing
will fill it quick and it's going to be quite
the Christmas event, holiday event. And you're all welcome to
come as long as we have seats. Take care and
be good to each other, and God bless
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