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July 25, 2023 • 30 mins
It's an interview so timely that we skipped the other half of the show! eRacr's Parker Kligerman and Landon Cassill drop in to talk about this Wednesday's third running of the Firecracker 400, what it's like to put on one of the biggest independent sim races on iRacing, and how their real-world racing experiences have shaped it. Tune in July 26 at 8PM ET on http://twitch.tv/eracr_gg to watch the action!
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This week on the I Racing downShift, it's a firecracker four hundred s
best. I hope that my fortythree driver when we get to Wednesday that
they're just sick. Parker Clickerman andLanding Castle talk about well Nich their race
unique. You went to someone inreal racing and said we're gonna make a
almost month long event, they wouldlook at you like you're insane, and
some of their different approaches to watch. I have enough children to go between

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us. Landing's got enough FI tostart the Landing Castle from the one team
all this Mars strap In Welcome tothe I Racing Down Shift, Tommy host
Greg West. So I'm back ofthe boys, Kevin Bobbitt and Chris Leone
episode fifty and a half. It'sthe first time we've ever done a half
episode. It's awesome. It's almostlike we just have a two really good

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guests and we have a really bigevent on I Racing this week, so
we kind of had to do itright now and we didn't have time to
do the rest of the fun yes, so it was like with this way
or not right and now Steve won'tyell at us for this hill of us
for other things this week. Ohyeah, yeah this out if Chris edits
it in time, that's all onChris's shoulders. And you people wonder why

(01:11):
I'm in therapy, don't. Idon't wonder why boy you really toss that
soft. So lots going on.I racing U you know Spot twenty four
last weekend. We've got the theFirecracker four hundred coming on this week,
and we have the Race for Moretwo point four coming up on August third.
That's a Thursday night. So abunch of big special events coming up.

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MS Society fundraiser ranks, Yes,that is the fundraiser. But where
you told me to be brief?Alright, so brief, but check the
forum post near you, check outthe MS Society's website, and uh be
ready to save your money up soyou can give Steve Myers and Chadkin assad
penalty because that's just fun for everybody, really, absolutely so, without further

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ado, though, let's get ourgreat guests on the podcast. So once
again, Parker Clickerman Landon Castle andthey're here to talk about get Firecracker four
hundred an Irish. All right,we're back with all three of us this
time. Kevin and Chris have joinedfor the interview portion along with Parker Clickerman
and Landon Castle here to talk aboutsome oval race coming up something like that.

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Chris, why don't you take itaway? Yeah, just when I
got out of interviews, you guyshave dragged me back in other duties as
assigned. Yes, Parker, Landon. Awesome to have you guys on here
to talk about the third edition ofthe Firecracker four hundred and an awesome event.
I've been able to be involved acouple of times over the years,

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but I kind of want to startall the way back at the beginning,
because I don't even know the storyof how you guys kind of met up
and started working together. So Ikind of want to go back to the
beginning. When did you two meetin racing and how did you guys kind
of strike up a friendship in thefirst place? Take Away? Yeah,
we so well. Parker and I'vealways kind of had shared experiences as in

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the sport as professionals. We bothkind of were brought into NASCAR as young
drivers attached to large organizations. Wewere both tasked around the same time period
as well as test drivers for thesebig organizations. Parker being at Penske,
myself being at Hendrick Motorsports, andso our journeys were very similar. And

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we also even you know, hadsimilar experiences that through those early years in
the Bush and nationwide Axfinity series allone series but three different names there.
We had different or similar experiences throughthose series because you know, we were
kind of given chances, but theyweren't proper, you know, full time,

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fully invested. It's we just hadinteresting experiences and a lot of alignment
there. So we were kind ofalways adjacent friends. I think, um
even you know when we racing theCup Series against each other when he was
at swan Um and obviously we're bothyou know, strikingly handsome. So uh

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that's so nobody can see that ina tank top. Yes, that's right.
Let be known for the record.More weeks of summer's almost over,
So I gotta follow up question.You guys are such good friends on track,
Does that mean you've never had anycontact on track like ever? I
don't know. I think we've racedthe Yeah, I don't think we've ever
ran into each other. Never goodfor you've never had any you know,

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major maybe an eye racing now Attomset the You know. The funny thing
is like we yeah, we bothalso have an affinity for eye racing,
and I think I racing is ultimatelywhat what really you know, hit off
the friendship or helped it bond themost. UM. You know, through

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that time period, we were bothbig SIM racers and had our hands in
the earliest editions of eye racing UM. And so when the pandemic came around,
UM, we both maybe because wethink alike and we have similar career
trajectories and and everything, we bothsaw the opportunity to race UM, to

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use the time in the pandemic UMto hone our skills on eye racing.
And so we both not just participatedin in the Pro Invitational series and and
even beyond Pro Invitational just the wholeplatform itself. We didn't just participate in
that. I think you know,both of us fully invested in it,
UM and and I think you cansee how we reap the benefits. I

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mean, the partnerships that came outof that for myself with UM, you
know, Blue EMU and UM Parkerwith UH with the E NASCAR team and
UM and really all that that kindof synergy is what formed Eracer in the
summer of twenty twenty. Um,and so we were just fully invested in

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in sim racing and uh and thenobviously are the continuation of our similar lives
has continue to pan out. Theonly the biggest difference in our two lives
is I have enough children to lastto go between us while he's still you
know, the single life. Notsingle. He's in a healthy relationship,
but for a married guy would clarifythere quickly, right, Yeah, basically

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Landing has enough. Yeah, Landon'sgot enough kids to start the Landing Castle
from the one team. Yeah,I've kept it lean over here. Yeah,
he can have a full pit stop. So I think one thing just
to expand on that, like inthat period of summer twenty twenty to give
you credit. Um, you know, and as you mentioned, we were

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part of the earliest I was onan email chain of the original first email
that was like, hey, whenthe pandemic hit, we should do an
eye racing race with all the cupwith all the cup drivers, everything was
Steve and everyone. So uh,I felt very attached. What's that.
I know. I'm sorry, it'strue. Um, that's a great point.

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We should do that. But thenyou know, from that moment onward,
uh As Landon said, we reallyyou know, leaned into the Provitational,
which was a cool experience considering whatwas going on in the world the
time, right and um, fromthat moment, you know, just struck
up a friendship. We practiced alot, and then Landing came to me
and said, hey, I wantto do like a big event. I

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want to He's like, what wouldbecause he had done the lc QC many
if you remember back the Lending JawCastle's Qualifying Challenge, which I think I
participated back Landing when you were youknow, qualifying in the Cup Series all
the time. It was a reallycool idea where hundreds of sin racers had
to do, you know, tryto go through this bracket to become you
know, do one lap for ahuge amount of money and off that,

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I think it spawned your idea oflike doing an even bigger event. And
that's when the eighty seven car wascoming out and it was like you just
said, I want to do theFirecracker four hundred and I thought, well,
that's really cool. I'm it.So that's you know, that's the
genesis of it, and you know, it's been cool to see it come
to life. And then that firstyear I couldn't I could not believe the

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response, and I could not believehow much money we spent thinking it happened,
and how well it worked on thisservice and you know, the platform
that I Racing provided to do it, and it was so cool, and
I think over three hundred and fiftycompetitors that year or something. And then
to see what it became came intwenty twenty one was insane. And now,

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you know, in the third edition, I was just saying earlier,
I feel like, to me,you know, this is the second amount
second highest amount of competitors, somore than twenty twenty not quite as many
as twenty twenty one, but theenthusiasm and the dedication of the competitors this
time around, and even the recognitionamongst just viewers and people in the racing

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industry that have come up to meof the last couple of week they've been
paying attention, it's unbelievable. Youknow what this has become and sort of
the brand and what it's you know, what's known to be and so it's
just a really cool event. ButI got to give Landing credit in that
you know it came from his brain. You know, it's funny going into
the original some of the original goalsof the Firecracker four hundred when we were

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like, let's make this event huge. One of our main guiding principles of
this event, you know, asEracer, right, not just even beyond
just Parker and Landon putting on theFirecracker four hundred, like the Eracer team
and everybody that puts the event on, one of our guiding principles is that

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we wanted to make our competitors feelimportant. We wanted them, we wanted
to make celebrities out of them ifwe could. We wanted to make superstars
out of them if we could maybemaybe superstars is a better word, because
we wanted the event to be sobig and so important that that it meant
something to these drivers and it wasn'tjust another fun sim race. And that

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goes down to every detail, likethe format of the event and how difficult
it is to navigate through the eventand just just making it to the Firecracker
four hundred itself isn't just reserved forthe best sim racer. It's really just
the best sim racer of that day, and the one with the most luck.
Maybe at times, you know,we talk about weather vara variation and

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things like that, but also ourpromotion of the event. Um. You
know, one of the original thingsthat we did in the days leading up
to the event of the original Firecrackerwas we made hero cards for each starter
in the race because we wanted themto to a have something special that like
recognize their accomplishment that they would promoteon social media and use to promote the

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event because you know, again,our goal is that we want to make
make these competitors superstars. And it'sfunny because as this then the second edition
and now you know, two yearslater in this third edition of the Firecracker
four hundred, one of the thebiggest accomplishments or maybe biggest satisfaction I get

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out of that goal is when Isee our competitors with sponsors for the Firecracker
four hundred, and these are wedon't again it get you know, we
have our own partners of the eventand our own sponsors that you know,
because we spend it, like Parkersaid, We've spent a lot of money
to put on this event, andwe help subsidize that with sponsorship. We
get nothing out of our competitors gettingsponsorship. But it's so cool to see

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them out there fundraising for their paintschemes and promoting partnerships and legitimate you know,
partnerships across the industry, whether they'reracing endemic or non racing endemic.
We've seen it all and we seethem promoting on our timelines, and to
me, that is like one ofthe ultimate signs that that our initiative is

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working, that we want this tobe, you know important, to the
point that maybe Corporate America is goingto look at this and be like,
how can we be involved in thisevent? For sure? I want to
go back to that format just fora second, because by the time this
comes out, we're going to bepreparing for the big show, the four

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hundred miler. But it's three weeksto get to that Wednesday night race.
So the forty three drivers that arethere, I want to go back to
the beginning, how did they getthere? Because it's a very complex and
detailed qualifying over multiple weeks. Youmentioned weather variables, There's so much going

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on. How did these drivers getthere? You want to take this or
me? Yeah, I've been doinga lot of talking, but I will
I will start with I will takethis one too. So the if you
I think it's to go all theway back to the beginning, I do
want to start with the race itself. The spirit of the racist of is

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that we wanted to replicate the originalFirecracker four hundred. It's very similar to
the thought of replicating an Indy fivehundred on I Racing or a Daytona five
hundred on I Racing. You know, you want to have those important elements
like the duels and you know thosethe twin races or the four lap qualifying.
You know, for the Firecracker backthen in nineteen eighty seven, it

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was two rounds of qualifying, orat least that was a hallmark of that
period, was two rounds of qualifying. You know, obviously with these cars,
they're very special because just running aneighty seven car round Daytona fully trimmed
out at two hundred miles an hour, is actually no easy task. So
that was the most important thing,was like, Okay, we want to

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have a forty three car field thatwas made up from two round qualifying,
right, but we also want anevent that can support hundreds of competitors.
So we had to figure out howdo we go from three or four or
five hundred competitors down to let's sayeighty eight competitors so that those eighty eight
competitors can do our two round qualifyingand then they can be split. You

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know that can eighty eight is ameaningful number, and it has a lot
to do with the size of theservers and things like that, but it
was a meaningful number that said,hey, a lot of guys are going
to invest in single car qualifying,not all of them are going to make
it right. So we basically customcreated this format, this tournament bracket to
go from four hundred, five hundred, you know it can it can manage

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up to about almost five hundred competitors. And that is very similar to what
you would see at like the KnoxvilleNationals or or the Chili Bowl, where
the competitors are grouped into prelimb sessions, prelimb events. You know, at
the Chili Bowl, it's everybody runsMonday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night,

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Thursday night. And within those prelimbs, I think we fill out an
entire server. So there's sixty twodrivers and each each prelimb, and there
is where they have to go throughsingle car qualifying, a heat race where
there's no cautions in the heat race, so those are a little bit wild,
and then a consolation race. Ifyou don't transfer through your heat race,

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there's a there's a consolation race whichhas soft cautions, so lenient cautions.
Lenient cautions, I think is ouris our actual terminology for that.
And then that field gets narrowed downinto a somewhere around thirty six to forty
car field where we take the topeleven out of that prelim feature forty lap

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feature. There's a pit stop,you know, we adjust the fuel loads
so that there's has to be somestrategy involved. We take the top eleven
out of that. That's what getsour eighty eight car two round qualifying fields.
So the reason it takes three weeksis because one of our original our
other original principles of this was wewanted to take time. We want to

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consume IE racing for three weeks.We want to take up everybody's time for
three weeks because because we feel likethat is part of this emotional commitment that
it that makes the event important.I hope that my forty three drivers when
we get to Wednesday, after allof the prelim stress and the open qualifying,

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and they went from fixed setups toopen setups and all this stuff.
That they get to Wednesday and theyare so exhausted that they're just sick and
they're nervous and and and when therace is over, I want the depression
to set in. But it's over, because that's what makes things important.
That's what makes things feel um,you know, that's what brings out the

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emotion, and that's what you know, you enjoy the whole you you you
ultimately you enjoy it. I'm beinga little dramatic, but but that commitment
is what makes the event important.You guys have definitely done a lot about
in terms of making it like leavingit into the fabric of some racing.
It's it's really amazing. And ifI could just add on to that,
you know, the three weeks alsoallows storylines to play out content. You

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know, that was as Landon said, consume I racing, but like consume
the common station for that time periodto us was something that you know,
in real racing, they've gotten awayfrom that, right with the eighty five
hundred used to be a month longthe Daytona five hundred speed Weeks was a
month. It's all now being condensedbecause of costs and financial reasons and that
sort of thing to shorter time periods. And for us, one of the

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other guiding principles of working with youguys at Eye Racing and the amazing platform
you provide to us is allows usto do what real racing can right and
right now, If you went tosomeone in real racing and said we're gonna
make a almost month long event,they would look at you like you're insane
because that would cost of bajillion dollarsand no one could feasibly do it.
And on I Racing, we cando that. So I think that's one

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part that really, you know,allows the sim racing sort of motorsport tournament
to play out. I know thatyou've got the Chili Bowl and you've got
Naxo Nationals that sort of thing,but I think for this, you know,
the idea of a stock car raceand four hundred miles and that sort
of thing, it can live onas a month long event basically in Eye
Racing, and the tournament aspect,to me is my favorite part because I

(18:03):
know I've been a part of youknow, the all the great special events
you guys do. I've done theD five hundred, I've done the U
you know, Towy fo Hours inDaytona, which is one of my favorite,
Towy Fer hours of Dumber, grangingat the bathrooms, twelve hour those
are awesome. And there's you guys, you know, have thousands and thousands
and thousands of people around on theworld all competing simultaneously. You know.
I think the firecracker is in theI is sort of the idea of,

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hey, how can we have almosteveryone feel like they're in the same race,
right, and they're going towards onerace in general, And so maybe
there's a little bit of limitation interms of the size that could get to
in the scale, but it itdoes allow it to feel pretty big when
hundreds of people are posting about itand that sort of thing. So well,
it's more exclusive, I mean thatwas yeah that you know. It's

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it's not in nothing against leagues,because leagues are a very good thing and
they serve a great purpose. Butleagues are almost by definition exclusive, right
because you have to you have alimited number of field and it's the same
drivers over and over weeks kind ofachieving a goal of a points championship or
something. It has to sort oflimit itself to that group of drivers.

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Where we're taking the same concept ofa league, right, because we're taking
weeks to promote and put on thisevent. Even the weeks before the event
actually starts. There's practice races andthis like community building around it because people
get together and they race together.It actually almost operates as if we came
to the public and said, hey, we want to put on a six
week league where the nineteen eighty sevencar runs, right Where in this league,

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we're just going to run Daytona withthe nineteen eighty seven car for six
weeks straight. Except it's not aleague. It's a tournament, right,
So it's way more inclusive. It'sscalable, you know, the scale,
the flexibility of the competitors is waymore scalable. We can support hundreds of
competitors and they're all racing against eachother regularly through their practice races and the
prelimbs and qualifying and things like that. But it's not exclusive like a league.

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It's funny you say that because oneof our big things this year,
one of the big pushes of Iracing is community building. You know,
there's already enough real world barriers toentry to real world racing. You two
have lived that life. That's whypeople got involved in SIM racing, because
they didn't have the financial means,you know, or the luck to make
it to the big show. Yetthere's you know, other places where now

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that you're seeing more and more barriersbe put up in SIM racing, But
with I racing special events or eventslike this, the barriers dropped. If
if you can wheel it, youcan get in the race. And that's
why I think this is such acool event. Even though it's not one
of our our you know, regularEye Racing official special events, it kind
of falls into it. This mightbe the only sort of private event that

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we've ever promoted, like you know, I mean we could talk about when
we get excited about usually we're like, oh, we want to talk about
our stuff. But this was reallycool. But it's such an added value
to the community, and you guysdo such a great job promoting it,
and it's a ton of fun.And you're right though, you guys take
over I racing, especially the ovalside for this period of time. That's
all anybody's talking about. That's allsocial media is talking about. You know,

(21:03):
it spalls over and now it's firecrackerand you know, be rated you
guys to get on a on apodcast at you know, eleven o'clock on
it. I love it so yeah. I just think it's super cool.
And just the way you've set someof these things up. I mean,
you know, landing, You've gotsuch a history with qualifying on I Racing,

(21:25):
and these two rounds are qualifying.But I think my favorite part is
the weather variable and when you gointo second round qualifying and you've got to
gamble if you're not in the toptwenty, that's already made it in.
And is it going to be acooler day? Is it going to be
a warmer day? And we sawsome surprises this year and setting the grid?
Yeah wait real quick, go on. Have you hung out in our

(21:45):
discord though, in the competitors chat, because I don't know if they agree
with the weather variation, competitors don'tlike the rules. Yeah, it's so
so. I don't want to,you know, make fun of competitors anyway,
but just so they know, asreal race car drivers, you know,
we deal with as everyone knows inracing immense amount of variables. I

(22:06):
like to say racing is the artof basically managing unlimited variables, right,
And that's part of the Firecracker fourhundred lores that this was a grueling race,
right, that was incredibly tough,and so we want that to be
a part of the sim racing version. And part of that is making it
as realistic as possible with the youknow, the weather variation you guys provide

(22:26):
on the platform and therefore using thatand that means you're not always going to
get the ideal conditions, which isa wonderful discussion on our discord each and
every Firecracker four hundred and this yearhere maybe more spectacular than ever, but
for us we love it because it'slike, hey, you know, as
much as you guys are frustrated,that is everything we go through weekend and

(22:47):
week out in real life racing.One of my favorite competitor moments on that
discussion was when our dear friend BlakeMcCanless, who obviously you guys know him
well at eye Racing and we knowhim well at Eracer because of his how
much he helps out. Um he'suh, you know an absolute staunch supporter.

(23:11):
I think it's at the right wordof of what we do at ERACER
and participates in everything we do.When he finally made a comment in our
discord and a frustration with the weathervariability and felt like it was too high,
um and at the weather variable wasjust too high, and the weather
was changing too quickly and the trackwas changing too quickly, And I simply
just responded to his message and said, you either die a hero or you

(23:33):
live long enough to complain about Eraserweather format qualifying formats. But you know,
it's funny the other the other thing, um and not. You know,
I'm not trying to just minimize anycomplaints about that because because our you
know, our rule book is aliving, breathing document, and that's one
thing that we do with these eventsthat that is difficult, you know that

(23:55):
that Eye Racing can't do or doesn'tdo with the official events. You know,
the operations of this event isn't entirelyscalable. It's it's very labor intensive.
You know, we're we're taking onthis manual task of adjusting some rules
and formatting and using certain parts ofthe service to create this sort of custom
event and it fits just perfect forthis audience that we're trying to make.

(24:18):
But you know, our everything isliving and breathing and nothing is perfect,
and so we're constantly trying to improveit. But for a lot of the
weather complaints that I've gotten this year, especially because the weather was so volatile
in Daytona, in real Daytona overthe course of two days and that translated
into our weather for that Firecracker fourhundred qualifying, you know, we had

(24:40):
some people that were just just trulycritical of it, and We're like,
you just need to be fixed weather, or they want to blame Eye Racing
and say that, you know,Ie Racing has a you know, issues
with their weather. And my responseto that is like, Hey, anybody
who has an issue with the weatherchanging and it changing the speed on you
know, and you're qualifying and fromone car to the next has never or
tried to qualify at Indianapolis Motor Speedwayat ten o'clock in the morning because a

(25:06):
single cloud on a day that isit's seventy five degrees but the forecast is
going to be ninety in two hoursand there's some clouds in the sky and
you're trying to make one lap roundtwo and a half mile racetrack. You
will the variation. And here's anotheractually thing that puts this all together.
Our field and I in a Firecracker, four hundred is so tight. It

(25:27):
is so competitive. We're talking abouthundreds of a second, right, well,
in real life at Indianapolis Motor Speedwayor any of these big tracks.
The reason I use Indias and examplesbecause it's a big track that we used
qualify in the morning. A singlecloud could swing your lap three tenths of
a second or four tenths of asecond, not three or four hundreds,

(25:48):
right, And so for these driversin the Firecracker to be upset because they're
like, man, I had apull winning car. Somehow I went from
having a top five capable car andI didn't even make the cut. I'm
like, we'll shoot the cut fromfirst to twentieth, and our race is
only two hundreds or a couple hundreds. So you know, it's in my
mind. I look, I seesome of the weather variability that's on the

(26:10):
platform and that's happening, and I'mlike, I don't know, I still
think it's realistic. It's a features, not a bug. We've been there.
I, Kevin and I have hadthis discussion and then on the receiving
end of this argument. Remember wetried changing the qualifying open qualifying for a
special event a couple of years agoand had had a variable weather on and

(26:36):
I think I'm still getting similar conversations. Yeah, it's tough though, like
you, it's one of those thingsand not you know, I know we
want to keep the talk about firecrackersstuff, and I want to keep talking
about but I do want to makea point that this is where it's tough
to make decisions, you know,and rely on driver feedback, because the
drivers inherently want what's most comfortable,most predictable, you know, what makes

(26:57):
them feel best behind the wheel.It's just like I used to see have
this frustration when we would do GoodYear tire tests because I was racing full
time in the Cup Series. We'dgo do a good Year tire test and
you as the driver, you're you'redriving these different tires and they're giving you
these tires and you're out there byyourself, you're not in a racing environment,
and they go, which tire didyou like better? And it's like,

(27:18):
well, you ask me that question. I'm going to tell you I
like the one that had the mostgrip, that was the fastest, that
had the least amount of fall off. You know, in my car,
drove the best on that tire.Like it's inherent for me to say I
liked that tire. It was morefun to drive, it had more grip.
But then you get in the raceand you go, oh, this
tire sucks. We can't race intraffic. It's got too much grip.
It's got there's no fall off.It's you know, like we can't.

(27:41):
We never change the tires or weonly take right sides. It's like,
well, that's the tire we pickedbecause at the test you just asked me
which one I like better. Soit's tough. It is tough to to
rely on drivers. I don't youknow. We deal with it enough with
the Firecracker. I can only imaginetrying to build a whole platform and satisfy
them. Try try setting an incidentlimit for the spot twenty four but we

(28:04):
got close. But the roles theday twenty four hours we've had, we've
run into that it's limit a coupleof times, so we know all about
it. Steve, Yeah, standthe track. That's key, That is
the key. Nope, yeah,we won't go down track limits. Don't
even bring that up. Forty fiveminutes later, bus stop, I'm guessing

(28:25):
exit the bus stop. That's backto life. That's right. We should
just bring in you know, dynamicsuspension where you hit it enough it he
just ripped your suspension off eventually,you know, really nobody would ever get
mad about that. Ever. Thereyou go. All right, guys,
well, we appreciate you guys takingthe time to come on. Super stoked.

(28:47):
Firecracker four hundred qualifying four is ongoing. We got the big event coming
up this week. What times themain race? It's Wednesday? Right,
what time? Yes, Wednesday eightam eight pm is close, which yep,
all right, that's perfect and wewill be well. Parker and I
will be back in the studio withsuits and ties with David Shieldhouse for the

(29:08):
main event. The Firecracker is dressedlike you're dressed now come on. No
no, no, no, I'mnot. And the two hundreds tonight as
we're recording this on Monday, sowhich is you know, just the one
last thing on that is obviously thetop eighty eight that make it to that
second round, I'll get a chanceat a race because aside for a couple
alternates, because we do the Firecrackertwo hundred, which as a full fuel

(29:33):
and they race for considerable prize inthat as well. And and then you
know they we have the Firecracker foron on Wednesday, so and the broadcast
for the two hundred is usually adifferent crew, and we got a different
crew tonight, so we try togive a little different flavor. Cool.
So Chris a little bit of pressure, do you get this edited and out
today so that we can promote theirrace tonight? Yeah? Come on,
He's like, stops talking so Ican get this editor. Well. I

(29:56):
do have one more question though,Are you going to bring the suits and
ties to the next recording of theMoney Lap? We should? We should
just go we should go straight fromMoney Lap into Firecrackers. So we're wearing
uh so we're in our full suitand ties. Yes. Listen to the
Money Lot podcast. Thank you forthe plug there. Chris Parker and I
do have a podcast. We talkabout all motorsports, not just NASCAR UM

(30:18):
as well as the money Lab newsletterthat goes out three times a week.
So that's been fun. Building thatout. Very cool. All right,
well, yeah, thanks a lot. Guys over each other for a little
bit. That's what we usually do. Yeah, usually just him and I
arguing on this podcast. All right, park figurem atlantic Castle, thanks a
lot. Looking forward to the showthis week and uh yeah we'll have like

(30:38):
to keep you guys back on andtalk about other I raising endeavors. Also
we need to tell Parker about thetime I took this place car the Lime
Rock, but that's another story.Training. See you guys, Thank you. See
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