287: Gen X Again

In this episode, Professor Mouse, the Cosmologist, and Munchie discuss Gen X, wrestling, and DEI.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
Hello there, special guest star Munchie starting early, very excited
about the uh what generation monkey is not gen Z?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
What's the new one? Alpha?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Last the last the youngest jen alf Okay, turning over again.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Okay, so almost Gen BETA. I guess that's what we're
gonna call the next ones.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Why do they do Generation X? Now I pose this
question and there's definitely an answer, but let's not google it,
and let's divine.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, uh doesn't it? Pink Woman goes in all yeah,
Generation X. This feels okay.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So I'm probably getting this like Chicken and Egg backwards
because I'm thinking about degeneration X and like the various
late nineties obsession with the letter X, which you know
goes all the way through to Elon Musk having an
obsession with a letter X. I think he is older
than Gen X, I think by a little bit, but
certainly has the same kind of edge lord bullshit that

(01:50):
they did about being unhappy with being incredibly well well
positioned in life.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
X otherwise might be.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, that doesn't seem right. I don't know how old
he is, but he's probably like early Gen X. So
why Gen xers because they were extreme, because it was the.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
X extrusion of the boom.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
It sounds to me almost like what's opposite of complementary.
It sounds derogatory.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think you're right, there's like X them out. They
weren't interested in contributing to society or whatever, even though
they were all living in the suburbs.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I would be interested to know the real reason, and
I can't think of any creative reasons why. But they
does feel like this sort of placeholder, like they felt
somehow without an an identity of their own.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, do you want to know the answer?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yes, I do. For five hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Let's go to britannico use let's use a fucking encyclopedia. Um. Okay,
this is such a crazy I'm glad because encyclopedias are
like this and they should be like this. But it's
a daisy chain of like guys who quoted guys. So.
The term generation X was popularized by Douglas Copeland in

(03:22):
an article for Vancouver Magazine in nineteen eighty seven. He
later said that he had adopted the term for Paul
Fusel's book Class, A Guide through the American Class System,
published in nineteen eighty three. Fusel used X to describe
people who did not wish to concern themselves with societal pressures, money,
or status.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Okay, so I was right, this placeholder of they don't
have an identity. They're trying not to not to participate.
They feel displaced, which I mean kind of like Malcolm
X right of like I don't want to use my
government last name, gonna they have this placeholder instead.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It was it was like fucking gnarly, this is the
Gnarali generation. It's also like gen xers they never received
because like we're gen Y because it's just kind of
like then they started doing the numerical thing or the
alphabetical thing. We're technically generation why but nobody calls us that.

(04:22):
People call us millennials or like the Y two K generation,
and then gen Z has like zoomers, some people call
them that. Gen Alpha is probably gonna have something that
defines them, but gen Xers there's there's nothing. It's just
gen xers. They don't have anything that defines though.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, which is kind of perfect since that was quite
literally the definition or lack thereof, of gen X. So
it's funny they don't get an additional name because there's
just such nothing people man By the more the longer
this podcast has gone on, the more my distaste for
gen X has apparently crowed like it was maybe started

(05:06):
out as partially a bit and it's not anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, we I feel like we're as we grow older,
we just take umbrage with the like because because we
have we've had a lot of IR for boomers, and
now it's shifting to Gen xers and then it'll just
become full self a lo oathing.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I got that already, I cut that lockdown. That's a given.
I think that's a given for most bals.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, yeah, Gen Alpha, like Gen alpha will be like
because Gen Z is just straight U the COVID generation.
The life is going to be defined by that experience
and going through it and all of the kind of
like social adjustments and accommodations that all of us are

(05:54):
going to have to have with with the zoomers.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Like maladaptations. So yeah, absolutely, it's being.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
In that now adaptation because it sounds like a disease.
It's just they're just going to be different socially than
anybody else because of this like his bad thing that happens.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And this bad thing that happened that coincided with being
already digital natives and so being even more fully removed
from the physical world of you know, you're already inundated
with technology that you don't fully understand, Like they didn't
have the benefit of early Internet and being, you know,

(06:32):
actually knowing how to use computers at a basic level.
They just are very much a user generation rather than
any kind of.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Adopter.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
They don't really have a choice, but they don't have
much upskilling. It's just here's a tablet, go for it.
And then that plus you are socially isolated by default,
and then even more so you literally can't go outside.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
It will kill you. What is that, dude to old
generation of people.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it makes them. It makes them like in in academia,
but also outside of academia. So like for instruction, the
what we've noticed is like decreased attendance. Kids just don't show.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Up to class, not show up.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and a lot of it, I think if there's
a confluence of factors. But we went to college, there
was kind of a lot. It was sort of the
beginning of putting everything online. But you but I had
a couple of classes where it was old school, like
still printed syllabi, buy hard copy books, printed assignments like

(07:49):
that type of shit. Like I like classes where I
never submitted a paper on on online. I always always
handed in a hard copy paper and that was like
I would say maybe even seventy five percent of classes
now that I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Like, yeah, my blackboard was like nobody knew how to
use it. It always sucked, And there's some very rudimentary
like I remember taking one University of Phoenix online class
and that was like very early on trying to figure
out the chat room digital experience of what that even

(08:25):
meant to do it virtually with textbooks online and interactivity,
and people were it was very much felt like a
gimmick and they were discovering how to do that and
to think about that being the default, which even me nuts.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I took a synchronous winter class and it was
like I didn't know that the instructor at all, and
there wasn't the type of functionality to do synchronous like
lectures and stuff, and so it would be like hybrid
you can do office hours and come to their office,

(09:07):
but like most people were doing it from home anyway,
so it was like a it was a very now
that I think back to it, and the assignments such
a bare bones version of what now is the the
baseline of expectation, which is synchronicity, all these like hybrid
assignments and shit like that, and so it's like now

(09:29):
students are like so used to that and used to
it to the to the degree that there isn't an
expectation or there isn't a recognition from them that it's
useful to come to class, because they'll look at the
syllabus and they'll go like, this is online. Readings are online,
the assignments are online. Everything's online.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
So what additional value would I derive from being there
in person. I'm so used to doing this all totally online,
and like sometimes none, Like I remember there were classes,
intro classes especially, it was like you can either read
the textbook or go to class. You don't need to
do both. And that was, you know, partially a lot
of failure of imagination and effort on the instructor's part.

(10:14):
But if that feels like the default yeat, then suddenly
the going in person is a much tougher sell if
they're not used to the benefits of a facilitated classroom
discussion and bouncing ideas off of people and having that
kind of actual interaction, which, to be fair, in a
big lecture style class has never existed in the history

(10:37):
of ever, Like, it's literally never worked that way. The
class's size is too big, So I don't think there's
anything and maybe you can correct me, but from my perspective,
for those sorts of classes, nothing is lost by not
showing up in person.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, well, I mean what's lost is what's lost is
it is so much easier to understand and material when
it is distilled through somebody who is ostensibly an expert
in the subject. Certainly, so when this is the problem
that you often run up against, where students who never

(11:15):
have come to class and are just solely using the
readings to do the assignments will misinterpret or get things wrong,
and you're like, the only real way to do it
is to just not assign this foundational text, which is
admittedly dense and impenetrable, which is definitely an option, or

(11:41):
you just got to come to class and talk through
it with your instructor and your peers so you can
come to a shared understanding of what the fuck is
going on. Also, learning how to read and learning how
to like actively read that is something you do in
isolation by yourself. You have to do it by talking

(12:01):
out your ideas.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
That is something that you should not have to be
learning in college.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Well, it's too late.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Feeling on what you can learn in high school because
the material that you get in high school is so prescriptive.
When you get to college, you're introduced to a cadre
of like new fields. Like you're not in going to
be reading fucking fuco. You might if you go to
a fancy fucking school. But like when I mean, I
took APUs history and we were given.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Speaking of prescriptive, Yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Giving an American history textbook that had like the most
cursory It started off with like the the Indigenous people
of the Americas five pages and and and when I
look back on it, I'm like, of course it's five pages.
This fucking book is five hundred pages long and there
and your history teacher in high school is expected to

(12:58):
teach you through hundred years of history like you do,
like you have to get going, fucking the Clinton administration
is on the goddamn ap.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, right, you gotta get through.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
That's that's a really good point. Yeah, I'm thinking about
I mean, again, I'm absolutely biased as a former high
school English teacher, but like the point of that was
not to have somebody come to a deep understanding of
the events of the Great Gatsby. It was to use
the Great Gasby as a tool to teach active reading,

(13:34):
critical thinking, discussion, reinterpretation, synthesis of information, and trying to
draw parallels between things that felt to a high school
student completely esoteric and remove from their real life and
teach them how to be like, hey, this, you can
draw something from this and make comparisons to your life.

(13:56):
There's something to be learned here. You have to like
pay attention though, and really dig to do it, and
if you have those skills, then you can get by
I think more effectively with asynchronous learning in a college course. Yes,
the elements that you're having to dig through are much
more dense, but without those foundational tools in your brain,

(14:22):
it gets so much harder. I was thinking about that
taking some like intro I remember taking some intro reading
and writing courses, like some kind of into English course
in college, and that was partially designed for people who'd
kind of like missed those skills in high school. And
that was the sort of thing that it was a
fairly small class. There was discussion, you cannot do that

(14:46):
in a big asynchronous way like that absolutely requires facilitated
talk it out, compare your writing with other people to
sharpen your skill so you can then do some of
the more self directed stuff later on.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, and it's also it's it's really important now too
because like one of the things that like the conservatives
do is they go on college campuses and they own
the liberal students and stuff and then you beat me. Yeah,
those videos. The students are kind of like, I mean,
they're shy, they're not very confident. They're probably smarter than
the person they're talking to, but they like one of

(15:26):
the things it's that slowly being lost is that mode
of engagement is like verbal communication, and a lot of
those students probably have a ton of information in their
brains in their heads that they don't know how to
express verbally because it's already so fucking hard to do
that and it's scary to to take center stage unless the.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, this is interesting. I want to push back on
that because I understand what you're saying and I recognize
in like a fully virtual learning environment, the counterpoint is
fucking TikTok. Like everybody with little TikTok videos, they are.
And what drives me nuts about TikTok and why I'm
not I don't use that mode of communication is that
is somebody showing their face reading a text post like

(16:14):
that could just be a text post. They are often
just rereading something, but that is entire like that feels
like redundant verbal communication for the express purpose of putting
yourself center stage. And so that I'm confused about the
same people who are having trouble verbally communicating their ideas

(16:38):
using a short form method of communication that is explicitly
putting their face center stage to say some dumb shit
like how do those things square well?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Because what you just described there is never two human
beings in intro.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh okay, yep, yeah, okay, yeah, you answer that question
for me, right, it's just out into the void monologuing.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, way easier when your phone is the opposition, and
it's and arguably way more anxiety inducing and toxic when
you're going through like comments and shit like that. But
like the ephemeral nature of having a dialogue with somebody,
and like that feeling of being required to state your

(17:26):
ideas articulately and smartly as the person across from you
is likely as somebody like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk
whose only skill is saying words confidently and convincingly that
otherwise have no value in them, and.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
The revenge of the sophists.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, it's literally their skill set is the opposite of
the college student skill set, because the college student is
sitting there actively reading.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
And liristening and absorbing information and reconsidering and yeah, as
opposed to I am literally not going to accept any
new information into my brain. I am only going to
use words as violent outward like put this side towards enemy,
claim or mine shoot words, and people don't absorb anything new.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
And the sort of like counterpoint of this is that
Charlie Kirk went to the Cambridge Union and those fucking
British kids that are in the debate club tear him up,
wid him and they weren't making great points either, Like
there's like a level of sophistry to what.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
They're doing too.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, but they're trained in his version of sophistry, just
better than he is.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
And it's by a British accident. Man, you gotta like
you have to come correct otherwise you get owned on accident.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's really funny yeah, I mean they they invented that
kind of weaponized language and debate rules and rules of engagement,
which in many ways are not super valuable, but it
is a it is a specific set of tools. So
that's really funny. So yeah, I mean I don't there's

(19:15):
not hum thinking. I'm thinking about the like YouTuber rat
So you got TikTok where you're shouting into avoid and
then people will take your video and then play your
face behind their own face, making faces at your face
and like this this.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like asynchronous bullshit.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
One hundred takes right and they do one hundred takes
versus the YouTube, like doing it live, having a communication
with chat as this like Greek chorus of having to
read responses, and there is a sort of it's a
different kind of skill set.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
It's closer to debate.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
And then you have chat moderators and the like sort
of that's close sort of a facilitated discussion. Frankly, any
YouTuber with a chat following is essentially doing like a
Socratic or I guess Platonian. I'm sitting here on a
hill with my little group of students and we're all
gonna I'm going to speak at them, but invite conversation

(20:18):
even if I have a specific agenda, which that even feels.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Old now. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I mean, like YouTube is so endemic to jen Alpha
and yet is it like an old people tool compared
like some YouTubers are still famous or but it feels
like that was a previous generation.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, they have like the they have that whole political
side of YouTube and twitch like you're like Hassan pikers,
the like the other like sort of, I mean, most
of it is conservative media sort of rives on the
daily wire, which is now imploding YouTube, like in pools

(21:07):
of the world, like the beanie here, the beanie wearing
libertarian dude, who is it? Steamrolls guests and stuff like that.
It doesn't it doesn't strike me as a good faith
attempt at having a dialogue. And a lot of it

(21:31):
is because there are people who are talking to one
another who should not be talking to one another. When
it's like Nazis versus communists, what's the middle ground? Like
where where are they going to land?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Like how is they share nothing in common?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, you're not going to get a productive discussion unless
somebody is fully converted, I guess. But if they're just
going to shout at each other, you know, like they
are opposites of armies.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
At that point, I see it a lot on my
like am I you know what do people call it
timeline for you page? Whatever it is where you know,
I will because I'm trying to follow, like the immigration
stuff and what's happening in LA today when we're recordings

(22:22):
June eleventh and so, the National Guard had already been
deployed to California and there was violence, mostly instigated by
the military and the police, and just having an interest
in that that you'll inevitably get in your algorithm, like
those political talking heads discussing with other people, and they'll

(22:45):
have somebody call in and it'll be like, immigrants don't
deserve due process, blah blah blah, and then they'll go well.
In the Fifth Amendment, the founders were very clear that
it's not citizens, it's persons who are entitled to due process,
and persons in the United States includes anybody regardless of
immigration status, and the Supreme Courts upheld it several times,
including this year in a nine to zero unanimous decision.

(23:08):
And then the person who receives all the information goes.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Nah, yeah, right, like don't care. I even saw a
clip of Joe Rogan being like, hey, due process actually
seems kind of important. If you take it away, that
seems bad, dude.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Like, hey, man with your chest. I mean he was
I saw a clip of him. He had cash battel
on the director of the FBI.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's crazy, Yeah, crazy, the fact that the director of
the FPI does not have something better to do. And
also I hope that we're like wasting his time because
nothing he has to do is going to be like
aligned with my interests.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
It was a true if it was a true deployment
of the deep state through Maga's eyes, then he would
just be collecting an empty paycheck, you know what I mean?
Like they ain't the FBI because the FBI can dig
up dirt on their political gods. It has And yeah,

(24:12):
I don't know that anybody in government is doing anything
right now. The uh, the the crazy thing that happened
is cash betel is on the Joe Rogan experience. When
Elon Musk is crashing out on X about Trump.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Right saying he's in the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
And yeah, that tweet that was tweeted while Joe Rogan
was talking to the director of the FBI, and so
he brought it up to.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Him hard hitting investigative journalist that he is Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Okay, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But it's also like, of course.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
But of course, yeah, Like I didn't need Dylon Musk
to tell me that I have seen the photos of
Trump mugging for the camera next to Jeffrey Epstein. Like
that's just we knew there. He's in the same pictures
with the Clintons. They're all together at a dinner like
a high fiving and thumbs up and like, yes, obviously
they all know each other.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, you're you mean to tell me this dude that
we all knew was bad is bad. Shocker, Yeah, the
whole Like I think people, Yeah, people just have such
a selective memory or such a bad long term memory,
because the reputation that that dude had in US society

(25:35):
was like, this is the pervert, weirdo, freak dude that
does like the Miss America pageant.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, this dude's a slamball and creepy and don't leave
him alone with anybody, you know, he's a perf Like
that was just like a given.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, and just a pension for young women and all
this bullshit, and it's like the leap to he was
in the Epstein files is somehow now not believable to
you know, whatever followers he has left, well the fuck knows.
And also like the news is all like Donald Trump

(26:10):
is super unpopular, all this bullshit. It's like, I don't know,
this motherfucker could win a third term. Who who knows?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like yeah, so as we speak again, it's that's June eleventh.
Trump has for years desperately wanted a big military parade
for his birthday. His birthday is the same day as
the Army's birthday or anniversary of the founding of the
US Army or whatever, so it's the Army's two hundred

(26:37):
and fiftieth anniversary year. Trump has decided he wants to
do a big military parade, ostensibly for them, actually for
him so he can live out his Mussolini dreams. And like,
I'm all for him living out his Mussolini dreams, as
long as it ends with him upside down in the
town square somewhere cool. Anyway, So they're gonna destroy the

(26:58):
roads in DC, probably because they're bringing tanks that the
roads can support. It's gonna be stupid, but that kind
of you know that, plus deploying the National Guard like
this is absurd and awful, and it will be interesting
to see how many people simply all it takes is

(27:22):
someone to just not participate. And that's the thing is
we already know, like the Army's recruiting tool is keep
you poor, promise you free education, promise you benefits, rip
the benefits away from you. We've seen a bunch of
people already who supported and voted for Trump be like, hey,
where's my VA benefits? What do you mean you fired
everyone who was responsible for giving me health care and

(27:44):
a home loan. So at some point, as that charade
starts to break down, like what loyalty do if I
am theoretically an armed service person, like I don't actually
have to follow his order, he's a dumb ass, like
and if if I'm not going to get anything out
of it, And the whole point was I'm here because

(28:06):
I'm desperate, Like they just don't have to participate, and
that is yeah, it's the same like no good cops,
because any good cop stops being a cop, like just
don't show up. And so that I'm curious to see
how that goes to your point. So thinking about our
friends and like our special interests and that same short

(28:27):
term memory. I wanted to bring this back to professional wrestling,
because of course I do. But there are every time
some new thing happens with Triple H and the biggest
thing was Triple A AH, the Mexican Luta Libre promotion
which sold.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Itself to WWE.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
The founder Antonio Pena, I believe died recently in his
family was like, we don't want to do this anymore.
Ww has been trying to buy us for it, buy
everything for as long as we can remember. So here
you go and it's it's listed as this like co promotion.
WW is gonna bring Triple A to worldwide, you know,

(29:06):
new heights. And to be fair, Triple a A has
had a really tough time breaking out of Mexico. Like
their legendary, their cultural mainstay in Mexico, but their TV
rights deals have always been absurd. They're impossible to like
watch if you're not if you don't have Mexican TV. Basically,

(29:27):
so getting under the WWE umbrella does give them a
global reach they've never had before. At what cost. The
cost is, of course, they are now a territory. They
they have been annexed by ww and what's weird about
that is twofold. If you go on the WWE's YouTube,
and I recommend, of course that you do not subscribe

(29:48):
or like their videos because fuck.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Them, but.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
They are.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
What's really interesting is the way they're promoting this, which
is they've got little basically explainer videos of lucha libre
terms and what's the technico and what's the rudo, and
like trying to teach an American audience about luta libre,
which I as a as like I randomly got into
lucier libre in high school, and I'm really excited about

(30:16):
American wrestling fans, North American wrestling fans learning how this
works North American USA, And I guess that's cool. And
it's so weird because it's this very pro Mexico pro
lucha culture, Like here's the history, here's the legacy, here's

(30:38):
why masks are so important, here's how it's different. We're
trying to really get people excited, not about this as
just like a gimmick, but as like trying to be
respectful of the unique cultural impact of luca and it's
like big, this kind of tex mex and Cali up

(31:00):
in the way US and Mexican culture feed on each other.
It's really interesting. What's so bizarre is you've got that
and then you've got pictures of Triple H and his
family sitting next to trumpet dinners. So like, it is
going to be interesting to see how they pitch it

(31:22):
as or is it going to maintain its cultural identity
or is it going to get gentrified? Especially essentially, is it,
you know, the the capitalists take in a unique cultural artifact,
round off the edges, smooth off all of the idiosyncrasies,
repackage it, and it becomes tackle Bell And I don't know.

(31:46):
But in the meantime, the first event, which is free
on YouTube for now, watch it. Don't pay for it,
you know, don't go to Peacock or whatever. World's Collide, now,
World's Collide. Thirty years ago there was an event called
the World's Collide that was a co promotion between I
think it was I want to say his WCW maybe

(32:08):
it was WWF and Triple A And it introduced the
world to Sycosis and Eddie Guerrero and Conan and Raymisterio
and it was a huge cultural event. So they they
ran a World's Collide event, and I mean it feels
like that the luchadors are mostly going to be undercard talent,

(32:32):
but some of them got really over, and specifically a
guy named mister Iguana. Mister Iguana does not wear a mask.
He instead paints his face and head green. Looks kind
of like the Great Muta, looks kind of like a
lizard themed Sting carries an iguana hand puppet to the

(32:53):
ring with him, wears green. The hand puppet, La Esca
is kind of like Sentino Morella's like snake puppet has
a life of its own, will interfere in matches. Other
looseners will get mad at it and like try to
beat it up. It's fantastic. It's completely ridiculous. It's totally delightful.

(33:16):
And he's, you know, a comedy wrestler. But people, WW,
this is interesting. It's interesting about the organic nature of
live wrestling. They were trying to promote Octagon Junior. Octagon
Junior is a Mexican ninja. I guess there's a whole
geometric set of Octagon and Pentagon and like family feuds

(33:39):
in Mexico, of these ninja characters. He's a good guy,
he's awesome looking. They were really trying to push Octagon
as like they've already got Pentagon. They want a big feud.
That makes sense. So everybody seems to be really organically
excited about mister Iguana, which is delightful, and the question
will be how long will WW like play nice and

(34:01):
do this really interesting like cultural outreach of teaching people
about the sacred art of lucha libre versus repackaging it
and getting all these guys lost in the shuffle of
a bloated roster or firing them when we know that
like oh yeah, Papa Triple H you know, loves indie

(34:22):
wrestlers or whatever, like, no, dude, he's a wrestling imperialist.
He's trying to eat the world and he's best friends
with Trump. So yeah, it's tough, and the trying to
have it both ways as gross.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Ww's always suffered from that because it it's like when
people are critical of DEI and then you go like, well,
how would in a in a in a sport like
WWE where hard work doesn't actually translate as much as

(35:00):
like a real sport, I'm not doing like the wrestling
is fake thing, but it's it's stagecraft and it is
like written right, and representation has always been such an
important part of the WWE. Otherwise you get rock lesners

(35:23):
fighting against each other and it's fucking boring and there's
no perspective and there's no variety and it's a stale,
bad product. Like can you imagine the WWE without Ray Mysterio.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, And for years, Ray Mysterio was their token luchador
and like, part of what makes him such a legend
is he's the only one who made it. And the
idea that like Vince McMann, like, there's room for exactly
one mask wrestler, okay, And in the same way that
like hul Cogan gave him the name Hogan because he
was gonna be Irish question mark, like everybody was a

(35:59):
caricature of representation and Triple h famously you know, buried
Booker t when WCW came over. And this idea of
making sure there's no black champions while AEW is off
on the other side with incredible diversity and full throated
support for the queer community, and so you know, it

(36:19):
is it's scary to have and suspicious to have this
like Oh yeah, we're totally all of a sudden culturally responsive,
but only as long as we feel like Luca is profitable.
We're opening up a new market and it's a new product,
But do we care about this and its legacy. No,
only in so far as it's profitable, and that's it.

(36:43):
Versus there's some really interesting, weird, idiosyncratic authentic representation happening
over an aw and they're partnered with CMLL, the other
big Luca promotion from Mexico, So we'll see. But there
is a way to do it that is, you know,

(37:04):
interesting in terms of really bringing new flavors to the
table to give audiences a varied diet. And then there's
like I'm going to sprinkle a little bit on there,
but it's all going to finally get pumped through the
machine and come out in the same shape, in the
same color forever.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I would argue though, that wwe like organically engaged in
the DEI project on accident, because it is so much
better when there is wide representation in media.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, the diversity gets people interested and engaged.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Who's the most famous wrestler from WW.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Macho Man Randy Savage.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I don't know what are you going to say rocking Black, Yes.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Like what are you talking about? Like d I is
horrible giving a shot to Rocky Johnson and then like
having that family tree, he also represents that like broader
family lineage in wrestling. Yes, you don't get the most
famous one of the most famous people in the world.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Just on the planet.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's insane.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
And the fact that the Rock isn't like I'm kind
of a Republican like why how.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Like you you did, work hard? You did is obviously
in wrestling, it's so transparently and that's one of the
people the reasons people like wrestling is because that meta
that sort of like meta storyline that you can talk about,
and that shows up in all the fucking dirt sheets,
and that shows up on all the blogs of like

(38:55):
oh what if they did this and then this would happen?
And what if they did this and this would happen.
It's all smoke and mirrors, it's all fake. And the
Rock was largely handed a lot of the things that
he was given and but that's like that's great.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
But he also worked for them.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's complicated. Yeah, and you see and so like okay,
ww thinks there's money in Luca, so they're going to
do exactly as much as they feel like they need to.
And at the same time, they're holding shows in Saudi Arabia,
right and you know, blood money shows. And cm punk

(39:33):
has just agreed to fight John Zena in Saudi Arabia
after saying categorically no, I'm never going to wrestle for them.
They are evil not doing it like but you know,
he's absolutely sold out, which of course makes sense because
he's working for WW. So it's this strange totally smoking
mirrors and the absolute sort of two faced nature of

(39:56):
giving with one hand and taking away with the other.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
He has revealed himself to be a total just chill yep.
The unpunk was like because that was a thing too
when because a lot of people didn't like c mpunk.
I don't think you were ever a big c mpunk fan,
But now it's like valid because it was like it
was like a thing where c M punk was very

(40:19):
divisive just based on like his persona and what he
was doing. But now he's not divisive. He just kind
of sucks balls and everybody doesn't like him.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, And I always had this like vibe because I
watched a documentary where he's like loved Roddy Piper but
didn't understand that Roddy Piper was a gimmick and not
like just a dick in real.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Life and like, you guys rubbed me the wrong way
that way.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
But yeah, he's yeah, he's completely sold out and for
a man who desperately wants to be Henry Rollins, like,
you're not punk, dude.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Roddy Pepper. There was a there was a story about
an actor named Eric Edelstein on the dough Boys podcast
This This dude, he's great. If anyone's seen Green Room,
he plays the bouncer in that movie, which also has
Patrick Stewart, and he told his story about being a

(41:19):
bouncer at a at a at a bar, at a
club in I want to say Washington State, and Roddy
Piper rolls in and you know, asks for like kind
of like star level treatment, like you know, move this
shit around, put these tables. I got a lot of
people coming in or whatever, and then he like makes

(41:39):
it happen and then he makes good FaceTime with him
and is like a big fan. And then Roddy Piper,
for all of that, tips him like the rest of
the money that he has left on earth just sort of.
This was at the point where Ron he his body

(42:00):
was falling apart, he was broke. Like this is way
past the time where he had that one interview where
he was like I'm gonna be dead in a five years,
like just like a shell of himself and he's out
here giving random bouncers his last two hundred dollars and
then like I'll figure fucking I'll figure it out. I
mean that dude was like such a good dude from

(42:24):
everything we've heard, just such a tortured soul, just like
the classic. This industry made a good person into just
a bunch of broken bones. Just keep together. That's it's
such a tragic story that dude. I mean, that dude
fucking rules. I love that dude. Back in the day,

(42:46):
I think everybody did. I saw him wrestle live, one
of the few like true stars. I saw Wressell live
at the Great American Bash. H that's awesome that they
don't even have anymore.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
And that's like this thing about all of these artists
truly like incredible athletes and incredible artists getting chewed up
and spit out again. Yeah, yeah, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Cool. So that was a bomber, But.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Also it means you had you USA audience, global audience
have access to Luca enjoy it while it lasts before
it also gets chewed up and spin out.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And also to be clear, like like the thing about
DEI is that it's good when people are given an
opportunity to succeed in fields they have not traditionally been
represented it and The Rock typifies that, and like The
New Day typifies that, and Ray Masterio typifies that, Eddie Guerrero,

(43:47):
Chabo Guerrero, Like they just didn't really have access to
WWE in the way that you know, Hulk Hogan was
given a lot of opportunities that he probably would have
pissed away if there was like a broader sort of
like next Man Up type of thing where it's like
this motherfucker's being a diva. Fuck him. Let's give an

(44:10):
opportunity to somebody just totally like somebody who hasn't been represented.
People are gonna fall in love with their story, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. And that's the beauty of Dei
and WW embraced that in a way, and a lot
of industries are way better for that, and it's just
it's it's it's bizarre when people are like, I hate

(44:31):
this and are like massive wrestling fans and you're like,
who are some of.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Your favorites are?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, your favorite wrestlers all like fucking Eddie Guerrero. Yeah,
I fucking love Chavo, I love Carlito. No one would
say that, but that was my favorite back in the day.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, truly, even I was thinking about Japanese wrestling. Yeah,
obviously Japanese wrestling has its own very insulur culture and
it's promoting. But they had even if it was for
bad guy roles, like a very specific bringing the big
scary geijin and you know, you got Hulk Hogan matches

(45:13):
that nobody can see where he was like actually wrestling
Muhammad Ali. Right, Yeah, Like there's and they understood, even
in a very what is often a very insular our culture,
our people first mentality recognize the value of a little

(45:37):
bit of diversity to spice things up and give you
and you know, even if it is to come and
play the bad guy, there is some value there and
you get crossover stars and back and forth. So and
I mean specifically even the what I refer to as
you know, the excursions of you get Japanese young lions,

(45:57):
they finish their time at the dojo, they go to
excursion in Mexico, go insane, and come back looking like
Batman villains.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Like that is.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Partially that cross cultural exchange which makes everything so much
richer and so much more interesting and adds some really
real beauty to this global phenomenon that is people wrestling.
So yeah, it would be a real shame to lose
that diversity.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, there's no industry that's been made worse by DEI. No,
doesn't exist like I mean, like film buffs and people
who are like obsessed with movies. The advent of like
Spike Lee breaking the doors down and then having like

(46:48):
a very robust, recognizable and well financed black cinema in
the United States has been an enormous net positive for
our country.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I went to an exhibit on Alphonse Muka and the
Art Deco or I'm sorry, our Nouveau movement, and you
know gets rediscovered in the sixties and seventies, not just
by American artists and Western influenced artists, but those books
make their way to Japan and early manga artists, So like,

(47:21):
this is beautiful, I should start drawing like this and
Final Fantasy and Amano's art for Final Fantasies inspired by that.
Guess where Muka got his ideas from late eighteenth hundreds
Japanese woodcuts. Like there's this feedback loot of beautiful cross
cultural exchange and that's only made things better.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
What would your identity be without dragon ball z? Right?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
What I mean?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Like, what would your identity be without or you pokemod
Like it's so crazy because like all the stuff that
we love is based in this like global cultural exchange.
That is, it is the foundational principle of which was
let's let's try to experience different perspectives in media, and

(48:12):
it is like at the core of people's identity. And
they're like, let's end that principle.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah, the insane idea that the United States the melting pot,
the bring me you're tired and you're poorerer huddled masses
were all immigrants because we only have five pages talking
about the Native Americans, but the rest of it is
nobody's actually from here. It's all about breaking and breaking

(48:41):
together and building a new culture, and like all of
the American staples of the hamburger, that's not.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
From here, dude.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
You know the apple pies, you know, Pennsylvania, Dutch anyway,
all of that stuff. And then to have this fascist
rant about everybody I don't like is a foreign agent.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
What does that even mean? Dude, You're not from here either.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
There's no here here without diversity and without cross cultural exchange.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Would you imagine our cuisine without fucking Dei.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
No, it would be only the worst things from the
worst people that got kicked out of England.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
We'd be eating British food, dude. The like you can
see the grocery store becoming like whereas there used to
be the international section, it still exists, but then you
like go into every section and the frozen food and shit,
and it's like, here's a frozen chicken, tika masala pizza.
It's like all over the fucking a grocery store. It's

(49:51):
like DEI has made our lives immeasurably better. It's made
it's made food better. It's made us have access to
tasty shit, cool movies and rad music. And let's destroy it.
That's the other It's such an American thing too, to
be like, what's something that has made your life immeasurably better.

(50:14):
Let's end that.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Let's take that one away. I think we talked about
this on a previous podcast, and it's bougie, but like Taro,
the I have watched in real time taro having to
be explained of Oh, the Japanese sweet potato. It's purple.
Here's why it's purple. It's tasty, we promise, don't be
afraid of it. To now it just says taro on it.

(50:36):
There's no like translation of what it is. There's no
justification for why you should like it. It's just purple
and you know it's good. Don't worry about it. And
that just that saturation and it'll get trendy and like, yeah,
there's the superfood or whatever. If something gets trendy, but

(50:57):
then once it's once the trend has passed, it just
exists now as a given of that's the thing we
have access to as something that we've accepted. And yes,
that's partially like are we Rome, Yeah, we sure are,
because we just colonize everywhere. But the best part about
Roman imperial colonization was the we're taking your gods and

(51:18):
we're integrating them in, and we're going to add that
to our culture, and we're going to just enjoy and
be able to incorporate everything, as opposed to having a
strict caste system of we're the best, we're conquering you,
but you get nothing and we get nothing, and we
stay exactly unchanged, except our empire is bigger and we

(51:41):
have more resources, but we don't actually like learn or
grow from that experience in any way. Yeah, and that is,
of course, I think that is the key of why
fascists want to take that away. They're so scared of
Oh no, we accidentally learned and grew from the six
experience and are trying to become more well rounded people

(52:02):
who understand the rest of the planet is also populated
with people who have feelings and like legitimate viewpoints and
interesting culture. That's so scary if we want to uh
in try to convince people that we are the best
and everybody else sucks, like the only way to do
that is to isolate us. And you know, you can't

(52:23):
hate people when once you've eaten their food and understand
that their entertainment is also sweet.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, we have to accelerate the ey We honestly do.
Why are there so many subways in this country? Why
are there so much? Why is there so much bad
food place?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
And I would be fine with like the subway still exists,
but you can get chicken tika masala there like eve.
It's just you know, there is a a bow alongside
the Italian white bread and the sourdough or whatever. Like
you can get a bun or an Indian in flatbread

(53:00):
or whatever, and it just becomes.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Standard.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Because the one thing we know is once it is standard,
then people don't want you to want. Once they're used
to it and you try to take it away, they
get pissed. Wait a second, this is American culture. It's
my god given right to be able to get none.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Uh that reminds me of and we'll shift gear and
get get erected a second of God. I don't remember.
It was a show on Netflix where they were doing
like different cuisines and they had like an episode on
fried chicken. They had an episode on like Indian food,
and they they were talking about like the the potential

(53:45):
breakthrough a fast casual or potentially fast food like Indian
food chain.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Oh that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
And they gave like an example of one in like
San Francisco, and my wife is is Indian, and that's
something that like when we went to India, they have
so much like I mean, not fast food in the Americans,
but like fast food like should.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Yeah, street food like easy fast.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, that's like such an untapped thing. I wish that
that that somebody could fucking figure it out and franchise
that because.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
And there's a couple of local ones where I live
that basically have like the Chipotle model, Like it looks
like a Chipotle. You walk in, it's got the stuff
is Ian steam bins ready to go basically, and it's
the same kind of like we've got five or six
different things and we can mix and match them in
twenty different ways and they're all very tasty. So that

(54:46):
is you know, that's that that's the closest model and
it works and it's really good and I order from there,
you know, fairly frequently. So yeah, that is you get
your hooks in that way, and then people are less
likely to hate you rightly because they're just used to
it and they don't understand like that's American.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
It we're in the middle of it. But it did
happen to the Germans, it did happen to Russians, did
happen to checks, It did happen to a lot of
different ethnicities grades that they were lighter complexed, and that
is that.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Is a big difference.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Is they get to get absorbed into white But if
you can, just if you can just open your mind
a little bit, even if it means absorbing them into
American whatever, I'll take in.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
It should be a rule that you have to only
engage with white culture if you're a Nazi, just like
just like the idea of like Nazis going and being
like a fucking jazz to watch Sinners rules. Yeah yeah,
oh my god. Although they would like that movie for

(56:01):
they would be on the Vampire for the wrong reasons.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, So it's time to go get
We're racked, get wrecked.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I'll uh So, speaking of white culture, I guess I'll
recommend two episodes of The Twilight Some I feel like
that's classic white American culture, right. All right, So there's
one episode called One More Pall Bearer, And this is
interesting for a couple of reasons. Joseph Wiseman plays the

(56:35):
main character, Joseph Wiseman, you would recognize as doctor No.
He also looks like Guy Pierce to me. But it's
basically it's a story about Elon Musk. Essentially, this world's
richest man, carrying a bunch of personal grudges from his childhood,
builds a bomb shelter, brings his old military commander, priest

(56:58):
and high school teacher into the bomb shelter and tries
to convince them that the world is ending so that
he can make them apologize if they want to stay
in the shelter with him, and they're all like, no,
fuck you, you suck. We'd rather go and die in
an atomic explosion. We don't want to live here, and
they just leave and ruin him. And it's got an
interesting like double twist which I won't spoil, but it's good.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
And the other one speaking about like meta commentary is
also from the same season, and it is season three,
episode twenty Showdown with Rants McGrew, and the idea here
is well, it's one of the few times that Twilight
Sun does comedy. It's a guy who is filming a

(57:45):
Western TV show like a Weekly Cowboy Show. He sucks.
The show sucks, but and it's totally a historical and
the conceit is that actual wet Old West outlaws are
in the afterlife watching the show, hate it and send
the real Jesse James to haunt this guy basically and

(58:10):
teach him how to stop sucking and stop misrepresenting them.
And it's delightful. It's very much this. You watch the
production of a week an episode of weekly television, and
then the ghost shows up to mess with it, so
it's delightful. Highly recommend. It features one of my favorite
things on The Twilight Zone, with which is Rod Serling

(58:32):
starting the episode by absolutely character assassinating the guy you're
about to watch and be like, this guy sucks, enjoy
and then you proceed to watch him suck.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
So yeah, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
This guy's called Rants.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Yeah, and Rance is full of bologney and you will
now watch him eat shit for twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
That's so funny. Oh my god, Rants, dude, that's the
worst name I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
It's actually a plot point that the guy signed on
to do the show because he could use his own name.
It's not even a character name. The actor's name is
Rance McGrew. In the world of the show, is it
the worst guy?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
God fuck me, dude. Okay, So I got a couple
of recommendations, like Quickfire Style because I went to Tampa
and uh old Munchie was was hanging out with the widows,
which means there were a lot of movies being watched. Nice,

(59:35):
my my here's a here's a reverse recommendation. My my
dad is obsessed with the Annabel movies. I don't know why. Uh,
he hasn't seen the Conjuring movies.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Yet, only the Annabel spinoffs.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Blazing through the Annabell movies. And it's it's interesting because like,
my dad's getting into horror movies, and that's cool, which
I would in this position, like, yeah, eight years ago.
It evolved during this podcast, which I believe turns ten
next year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
We're full on into monster land here on the podcast
in a way that I'm I've also this podcast has
charted our evolution into horror fans.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
And so he watches the Annabel movies and they scare him.
And I watched the Annabel movies and they're so predictably
unscary where.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
And you're also specifically like a killer DOLLFICI.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Oh yeah, and so is he. We watched the Chucky
series and he and he and I got into an
argument because he said the first Chucky movie because I
was like, and I love Chucky because Chucky's not scary.
And my dad was adamant that the first Chucky movie
was scary, and I was like, that wasn't even scary.
Was scared? Remember when this happened? And I said, that's

(01:01:02):
not scary Chuck. He's always a doll with no supernatural powers.
He's never scary. But that was fun to watch. But
the movies were bad, and my wife and I were like,
these movies suck and they're not scary, and my dad

(01:01:23):
and my stepmother were like terrified and like like pacing
around doing other stuff, getting on their phone, like the
shit you do when you're scared, which is very funny.
But some movies we watched. Sinners is great, fantastic. I
can't add anything to the cultural conversation that hasn't already
been said. I'll just say, at a sort of like

(01:01:45):
base level, it's fun to see Ryan Kogler doing something small,
which is wild considering how much money it made, and
looking forward to that since Fruitvale Station, like he blew
up really rapidly with the Creed and then Black Panther,
and so for him to get back to movies that

(01:02:07):
are grounded in like a in an unheightened reality.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
That's so funny that you're referring to a vampire movies
unheightened reality.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
The first hour of the movie, it's like very very
very intimate storytelling acting between Michael B. Jordan and Michael B.
Jordan and Hailey Steinfeld. That then escalates, Oh wound me.
Musaka plays an excellent character and she's fantastic. She was

(01:02:39):
in LOVECFT Country and as fantastic, And my wife and
I were talking and we're like, this is actually definitely
Jonathan Major's there's a specific role he would have played,
Oh brutal. That makes sense, though, Yeah, weird. He might be.

(01:03:00):
He might be forcing the Oscars to give him a
nomination for magazine Dreams. I haven't seen it, but I've
talked to people who are like, this movie is fantastic.
He plays like a bodybuilder and it's like his character
study piece and it's Jonathan Major. So he's already baseline

(01:03:20):
a good actor in bad movies like Devotion so in
a great movie, which I hear magazine dreams is it
would be weird if like a canceled dude was like
a huge contender for a lot of these awards. But

(01:03:41):
my big recommendation is an indie one. It's a movie
called Freaky Tales for interconnected stories that take place in
Oakland in nineteen eighty seven and that have a bunch
of great character actors. Patro Pascal has his own short

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in it, Jay Ellis who was one of the He
was an insecure and he was one of the pilots.
In Top Gun, Maverick plays a basketball player whose girlfriend
is killed and then he goes into his safe which
is full of gatanas it sort of like meditates and

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then proceeds to kill fifty guys. And it's just like, okay,
greatest type of movie.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Sounds like a grindhouse kind of compilation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Exactly like that. Yeah, it's it's very sort of like grounded,
grounded magical realism where you can tell it's like extremely
low budget. One of the stories revolves around teenagers who
fight Nazis who come and terrorize their music venue, and
so they like they like it goes from them being

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like very timid to them being like all right, let's
let's arm up. And they have created like fucking like
fatal flying guillotines and like all of this crazy shit
and spiked weapons, and they're just out there destroying Nazis,
blowing their heads up, throwing dynamite at them. It goes

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from like very grounded to like overly massively excessive and
magical because there's like a green light that signifies some
kind of magical energy. Tom Hanks, bay Area native, is
also in the movie and delivers one monologue that is
fantastic and it's very weird where you're like, what the

(01:05:42):
fucking Tom Hanks is in the movie? Uh? And obviously
it was like an appeal from the director was like,
you know you're from You're from Oakland. We're making a
movie as a love letter to Oakland. We'd love to
have you. And he shows up for a day and
kills it and to see his scene partners Pedro Bescal,
which is probably he was like, Okay, I can do that.
That'll be easy. But it's a fantastic movie. I can't

(01:06:05):
I can't rate it highly enough, and it is. It
was one of those movies where we were like looking
for a long time, and we're like, man, if we
pick a bad one, it's gonna fucking suck. And yeah,
we didn't stop at once. We didn't pause it to
get snacks or pee, and Munchie much like during this
record was very well behaved. Yeah, she was getting freaky

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during Freaky Tales.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Well it's monkey Munchy's recommendation, like almond flower cakes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Yeah, uh, blueberries like whole blueberries is as much as
a recommendation. And also big twenty sided dice.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Nice all right, so get your dice, get your blueberries,
sit down and watch Freaky Tales and Twilight Zone, which
is the o G Freaky Tails exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
We'll see on the next one by m.

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