September 19, 2025 • 62 mins
In this episode, Professor Mouse, the Cosmologist, and Teddy celebrate their 300th episode and play some games to test how well they know their own show.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It's like a clown. No, don't this little page.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
He's bagging boarding, Batman and the gutter like a mate
story tellers me some fellas, we some felons.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Isn't amazing. It's like appella bearver sell it because this
shit is so contagious.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Mouths on the.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Summer He's co pilot, got the show while the cycle
spinning knowledge on the getty like appro beat the Babo,
be the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Don't step to the squad, we get activic and hate.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's like a stepla.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Parts you don't like fish talk?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Do you hate?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's a matl We.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The cuddle, fish Killers, Tenda Pools on the taping Greatest
five Stars, If you cherish your life, Bucky Barneshit Squad,
spraying leg and your pipe.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Is This Just Bad?
Is This Just Bad? The best podcast you never heard of?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm your host, Professor Mouse, joined as always by the
cbe Cosmologist and Teddy. It's episode three hundred and we
are celebrating by taking a trip down memory lane.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I have several games prepared.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Which were generated by me doing the unenviable task of
revisiting the things that we say and do on this
podcast truly mortifying some of the things even in episode
descriptions which I have pulled out the kinds of topics
(01:21):
that we've covered over the past at this point nine years,
and it will be a kind of retrospective where we're
going to talk about the show and spend some time
celebrating the fact that we have committed to something for
(01:42):
and I won't say the exact number, several hundreds of episodes.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So three hundreds of episodes, well.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's not we're doing We're doing we're doing Batman numbering.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So when they renumber, we still.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Have that that that the classic originalist number.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And you get how.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Many crazies, crisis events, crossover events, and.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I will tell you all three of us have different numbers.
So let's uh.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Opar to kick each other straight down there with the
memory hole for what might be the three hundredth episode,
depending on how you count.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know, it's wild.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So there to talk about taking a trip down sort
of memory lane here, I'll say, because I kind of
started this show as like a a thing to do
every week that was initially inclusive of neither of the
(02:50):
two co hosts in this chat, but my friends who
live closer to me and who were unable to continue
doing a podcast because the important thing about podcasting is consistency,
(03:12):
and there was a total inability to be consistent with
my best friends who I grew up with, and that
is very much indicative of our whole relationship and dynamic.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So there are several hundreds of episodes.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Wherein the Cosmologist is not a part of it and
Teddy is not a part of it or part of
the show. So that brings us to sort of the
first game, and hopefully this will jog some memories.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I have identified.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The first episode that both of you appeared on, the
date that that episode was released, and the name of
the episode. So I want to do it in this way. Well,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put it out to you, folks,
(04:18):
because I also have all of that data for me.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So will it would it be.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
More helpful to triangulate because I want to give you
a shot here because this is almost impossible. Would it
be more helpful to triangulate the those.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Specifics for you if I tell you the specifics for me?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yes, if we can maybe align the telemetry a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Okay, aligning the telemetry is the cosmologist vote, Teddy, do
you want to just raw dog a guess?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I mean, I think my preference would be aligning. But
the fact that you said raw dog a guest, I guess,
I'm like, all right, well, I sort of need to
do that for the rule of three.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
That freudiance slip of raw dog a guest is not good. Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Will I will lay my stats out. So my first
published episode was the first episode of The Wednesday Comic
Book Show, which premiered on April sixth of twenty sixteen.
I have appeared on three hundred episodes of Is This
Just Bad, eighty nine episodes of the Friday tie In,
(05:41):
one hundred and seventy five episodes of The Wednesday Comic
Book Show, and thirty nine episodes of Interruptions, which was
the first show. And that is a grand total of
six hundred and three episodes that I have appeared on.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This making six hundred and four. So does that help
at all?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No? Weirdly a little. It helps me a little bit
because I remember, I remember the Friday tie in, and
I remember the the work shopping of this show's name.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, and I think for it, and Teddy, you are.
I can give some hints also for cause your first
appearance is much earlier than you probably are thinking of,
and then there was a huge chasm in between your appearance. Teddy,
(06:46):
your appearances are exclusively on Is this just bat?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah? So I'm guessing I probably have like three hundred
and ninety episodes. I'm going to assume I have like
one guest appearance on the Wednesday Comic Book Show, and
then we started the Friday tie in, and then I
never appeared on interruptions. I don't think we did our
like beef.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Thing for a while where we.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Were beefing with them, but I don't think we ever
crossed over. I ever crossed over officially, so that would
put me. I'm gonna say my first appearance is sometime
in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, Teddy, do you want to steal?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Wouldn't it have been the later half of twenty sixteen?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
The later half of twenty sixteen? Okay, So let's do
date first. So on this runt, Teddy wins, your first
appearance was July sixth.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Wait, so and you said Wednesday. Tian starts in April.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, the Wednesday Comic Book Show. Yeah, starts in April.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, sorry, Wednesday. I didn't remember being on that early
into your run of your solo show.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, yes, you were on episode fourteen of the Wednesday
Comic Book Show. It was an episode entitled Ultimitification, and
we talked about, uh, there's some stuff that I have
to eliminate. We talked about comic books, and we promised
(08:40):
to do some event theme episodes in the future, and
we can talk about those in a second. Because we did,
we not only catched in on that problems, we also
just started doing the show together.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Okay, So now.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Number I want to know why I thought of that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, tell Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So the reason I remember that is because the first
episode that I heard you all on like after, I
was like, oh, yeah, y'all are doing a show. Let
me listen to, like keep up with my friends from
this time. The first one I listened to was the
when you all were talking about the eminent release of
(09:26):
Doctor Strange. Doctor Strange came out like around that Thanksgiving
of that year, so I didn't hear the first episodes.
I heard like a much later, like I think, in
like a September ish episode when you're like, oh, yeah,
and Doctor Strange is coming out, and just I just
have that because there was a talk of cosplay very
(09:48):
earth cause early on in that area and whether or
not you were going to do a Doctor Stranger stick
with what you were already doing. So anyway, yeah, that's
why I was like, no, it couldn't have been like
early in twenty sixteen, because like I was much later.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Anyway, very cool, I like that, Yeah, And the initial
idea of the Friday tie in was that I would
listen to the Wednesday show and then have some kind
of response.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Which was a very wrestling Yeah, it was a bad
idea honestly, but I mean good in theory. But it
was also this thing where I think we had an
ambition to do episodes, or we had an ambition to
do episode formats and show concepts that we probably could
(10:39):
do if this was our full time job or we
worked in media full time. And I think over time
we like because initially we were just kind of like,
we're going to do a podcast to stay in touch,
and it'll be a personal record and a personal archive.
But then when we started being like, well, what is
a podcast and how do you do it? We started
(11:00):
throwing out all these different.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Ideas, gimmicks, what and is it going to be a fiction?
We had our very we had started weaving sort of
a cosmology and various bits and rescripting things for a while.
And you're right, if that had been a full time
endeavor or closer to our jobs, or even further away
from our jobs, maybe where if our jobs didn't include
(11:25):
writing in other contexts, that might make it make a difference.
But yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, So episode number that Cause has appeared at you
threw out a number already.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, I'm going to stick to the three to ninety Okay, Teddy,
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's I mean, if it's twenty sixteen, I would I
would probably go somewhere like north of four. So let's
say let's say four to eighty as a no, you
know what, No, I'll swing for the fences. Let's say
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Okay, Cause nailed this.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
It is three hundred and ninety eight episodes across all episodes,
and so here here's the breakdown.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She did three hundred episodes of Is It's Just Bad?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You did eighty nine episodes of the Friday tie In,
You did one episode of the Cosmologist, Chronicles, which.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Was, Yeah, the one thing I had to write, You're out.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
A solo show that you did.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You did six episodes of the Wednesday Comic Book Show,
and I'll i'll list those because they're interesting, and one
episode of Interruptions. And the interesting thing about the one
episode of obviously you can't find it now because we
have retreated into full anonymity.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was on video and it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Was during a period in which we never really did
the show in person, but there was a very like
weird Aberrant thing where you had to be in the
same place as us, and we took that as an
opportunity to kind of celebrate you. It was around your birthday,
(13:31):
and as part of that, we all got into the
room with microphones and I have the video still and
it is funny. But yeah, you were on one episode
of Interruptions. And this was before the sort of beef,
because I was still on the show. The beef happened
when I sort of left the show. In terms of
(13:54):
the episodes of the Wednesday Comic Book Show that you did,
these sort of anticipated what the Friday tie in would
eventually become and why we kind of transitioned into is
this just bad so like the life span of the
show is essentially we kind of figured out what we
(14:15):
would eventually be doing when you were guesting on the
Wednesday Comic Book Show. We took a hard detour into
a more kind of ambitious format, and then we returned
back to the mean with doing episodes that had were
(14:36):
like broadly organized around a theme.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So you did two episodes back to back.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So you are an episode fourteen of the Wednesday Comic
Book Show and then you are on episode fifteen of
the Wednesday Comic Book Show with mal In an episode
entitled Cosplay, HENTI and Tumblr.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
All Time Classic.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I do.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Believe it is because Yeah, I mean I would have
I I'm almost certain that you pitched those topics because
I would have never talked about any of the three
of those things because I have had I barely have
any knowledge of them now and I certainly didn't have
any knowledge of them ten years ago. The next episode
(15:23):
after that, and this, this is kind of like the
thesis statement of the Friday tie in, was our episode
on Blackest Night.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So we did a very very very long.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Episode where we covered Jeff Johns's Blackest Night, and it
was this bizarre thing where.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Cause was was was basically.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Outlining how important of a book it was to him,
and that led us into being like, we got to
check this the rest of this guy shit out and
becoming this sort of like slow devolution and quality and
a very sort of like, I don't know, how would
(16:14):
you describe it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was kind of like a c descent.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, our journeyed our disillusionment with Jeff Johnson.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Which started from and I kind of forgot that.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
We did an episode on Blackest Night and I and
I sort of like listened to parts of it today.
It was like very complementary and also very sort of
like optimistic, kind of like that book itself in a
lot of ways, and it was the sort of thing of, Yeah,
we're gonna keep We're gonna keep engaging with this artist
(16:44):
because this artist is like operating on the same frequency
as us.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
To the middle point where.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, sorry, continue to finishing your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I was just gonna say, to the point where we
then organize an entire show around a piece of art
that he was doing and then canceled that show based
on our distaste of that particular comic book.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, I went to a convention and met the man
and got a picture with him, and then little did
I understand. I think, looking back, the fact that the
one thing that he wrote that really resonated with us
is a horror story is in a monster book, which
(17:30):
he then refused to do again, really probably should include
me into something, but I didn't know myself well enough
to understand the importance of it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Being monsters we are monsters are going to come up
in this episode for sure, and they simply must.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Just based on everything about us.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I'm about Mal's number of episodes. I don't know if
you pulled that data, because the I remember Mal being
on that about cosplay and then a way too long
takedown of the Last Jedi. Uh, and that would have
(18:13):
been I think an early Friday tie in episode.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Was she on the last Jedi episode?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So the takedown episode that I remember scrolling past, I
didn't I didn't get the exact numbers was for the film.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right, Oh yeah, we did.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
My ill fated attempt to actually like post weekly on
Instagram with some kind of thing about the show.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, oh yeah, she was also on the last It
seemed like all of Maul's appearances.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Were pretty cloistered, and then she just kind of stopped
wanting to be on the show. Can't blame her.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, it seems like the last Jet the Cosplay episode
and an episode on Bright which honestly, that's a bad
way to go out.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Having to watch that fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
The next the final two episodes or the next two
episodes of the Wednesday comic book show that you did
were the Infinity Saga. And there is a naivety in
the way that we talk about this where we began
reading these books as a way of prepping for the
(19:35):
Infinity Saga that the MCU was gearing up for, and
it is a slow disillusionment also of like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
How Hollywood that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Universe was becoming, because it was like there was some
interesting stuff in those books, particularly the fact that it's
kind of like Thanos's motivations are uh, we're speaking at
the time to like what we would call it in
cell culture, and it was kind of more interesting than
(20:13):
the sort of like the human management like like the
the Thanos the Demographer.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, Thanos the eco terrorists sort of yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, where the we we We spoke very positively about
the character of death in that book, and that was
one of the only positive things that we talked about
in that book, and it was the thing that was
removed from those films.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
The two things that were removed was death and it's
interesting that Jim Starlin nailed in cell culture so well
and Joss Whedon refused to touch that. No, well, we
know about Jess Whedon now. And also the Buddy Cop
Road movie of Doctor.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
De Yeah, which was very very.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Fun, yeah, which is a lot of one of the
things like I still remember doing terrible voice acting for
those which is the light I had a lot of
fun with. And that is another thing that the MCU
has shot itself on the foot and cannot.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Do right because they have like yeah, yeah, yeah. And
that's weird too, because there are several episodes of the
podcast where we speak very glowingly about Jonathan Majors.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm sure we do. He had some excellent performances.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
We did an entire run dedicated to Lovecraft Country and
then the final speaking of and you just mentioned it,
the final episode that you did on the Wednesday Comic
book show was the Justice League review. We watched it
and we were like, we have to talk about this.
(21:57):
I think it was partially because we were reading Justice
League at the time, and I think this was sort
of towards like the the Friday tie in and the
Wednesday Comic book show start to premiere on on Wednesdays
and Friday, so on the same week, and in the
Friday Tiyan we are reading Justice League books and so
(22:20):
we are constantly talking about this bullshit again a kind
of naivete which was like where we were still very
wedded to like the idea of source material and engaging
source material before movies came out.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And I remember this being a kind.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Of an academic interest of yours in college, and then
it kind of being like the comic book to silver
screen translation is not worth delving into because they're not
doing anything interesting. Oftentimes, they're two totally separate documents, and
(23:01):
the all of the things that you're interested in trying
to like mine from source material to see how it
translates is not a concern of anybody in the MCU.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Yeah, they simply don't get translated. And to the point
of like they'll pick a title here, a character there,
and yeah, we found finally that it just wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So yeah, then uh, we start the Friday tie in.
It is at this point that we kind of realize
that Teddy is sort of listening.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
To the show.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's a great way of putting that.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, but Teddy is not on any episodes of The
Friday Tian, which I kind of gasled myself into thinking
that he was.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Teddy does not appear until.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I think we start mentioning Teddy because we are getting
like live blogging reaction texts from him.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think so, And so in my memory,
Teddy's been a part of the show for longer than
he's actually been. But that said, has built a pretty
impressive resume here. So first appearance, number of episodes, I mean,
(24:27):
and if you can nail the name of the episode,
that would be insane, But yes, first appearance, a number
of episodes for.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Teddy, I to take as as a colleague has been
saying a swag, which is a scientific wild ass guest, I.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Would have to say it would be like maybe twenty
twenty one, and so that's like, so, yeah, twenty twenty one,
and it would be like like March of twenty twenty
one maybe, and number of episodes I have been in
(25:16):
and out for a minute, so like let's say ninety.
Now it's got to be more than ninety because there
are a lot of episodes of thus it is just bad.
So let's go with one hundred and twenty and name
of the episode something involving Westworld. Cause I think one
(25:41):
of the first episodes I came on to, y'all were
talking about Westworld, and I was like, I have not
there's so much of this show. I have not watched this.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I think I do remember that. I'm gonna say, I'm
gonna give I think, say like two hundred episodes, but
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, these are interesting guesses.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Because so Teddy, you are identifying the period in which
you begin to engage with us. There was a very
specific episode of the show that I remember you texting
me about, which was when I explained to Cause.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
The Triller event that.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
What Jake Paul versus Ben ascrit and that that was
posted on in April of twenty twenty one. So you
were definitely engaging with us at that point, but you
had not appeared on the show yet.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
So in terms of date, wait, cause what did you say?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I said twenty twenty two?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You said twenty twenty two. This is wild, And this
also surprised me. Teddy's first appearance February third, twenty twenty three. Wow, okay,
relatively recently. Number of episodes, Teddy says one to twenty, cause,
(27:22):
as it does two hundred, Teddy's first instinct was correct
ninety two episodes.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, and once you say to my twenty three, there's
no physical way for him to have been on two
hundred episodes. We can't record that off. I will say
one of the things I love about Teddy being on
is re energizing us to the idea of themes and
gimmicks and I think, you know, sort of reorganizing. Some
(27:55):
of the things I think I'm most proud of that
we've done have been Monthstoberfest. You know, while I generally
don't love what we watched for when is this just good?
I like the the effort of that kind of theming
it certainly our fore and D and D absolutely so
(28:15):
it's it's been a really wonderful injection of energy and
perspective to get him joining us.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So, the the first episode that Teddy appeared on as
an episode is episode one of Is This Just Bad?
Called Gods and Monsters, And in that episode we talk
about the DC under Gun and Saffron just released their
(28:49):
sort of slate of movies.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Oh right, Okay, So I was about to say, we've
talked about the Ian McKellen movie, but I don't think
it was on that episode.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And there were there and there were a lot of
sort of like allusions to the potential of integrating, like
like the Swamp Thing was was was announced, the Swamp
Thing movie, and like speculation about like Darkseide or the
New Gods. I think at that point miracle Man had
already been announced or something like.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
And Tom King and Ava du Verne may have been
working on scripts at that time.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, and so Teddy came on to talk about that.
But to your point about Monstoverfest, So we did the
first monstover Fest, which was a seven week series on
vampires draculous even which about Dracula's where I was like, wait,
how are we calling this a themed month?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
This is like two months of the of the show.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And then so Teddy was on sporadically, and then when
we did the second monstover Fest, then Teddy that's when
Teddy really became a mainstay on the show. Participated in
every episode of Monstoberfest lat Or in twenty twenty four,
I guess, and then it's our monster Smash. That was
(30:17):
our monster Smash, and then we'll obviously be participating in
Monstoverfest this year. They're the one caveat that I will
make to this teddy. And we've we've talked about this
a couple of times. Is that you did record an
episode of interruptions.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
With me and the boys.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
That we recorded blacked out, and that is you is irretrievable,
and you were there with us, and I remember, for
the longest time I kept asking you, like, do you
know how to recover a file from a computer that's
just totally dead? And the theory, the theory surrounding it
(31:07):
was that we actually probably never hit record because nobody,
everybody has a collective memory that we did it, but
we can't find the file.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And wait, was that when we Oh so I was
about to say some doxying things. Uh I vaguely wait,
I think I remember, huh.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, I mean, I love the idea.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I have an image of you sitting around all holding
microphones and just simply not recording any of it.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean, and this is a point at which, like,
I mean, this was a point at which too, I mean,
because this was pre this was in our and I
listened to some horrifying recordings that we did in terms
of and content. We were trying to figure out like
what the fuck was going on and like how to
(32:06):
do a podcast. And I remember putting my phone in
the middle of the table and it being surrounded with
idiots and we're and we're talking and it it's it
is a level of inanity that I can't even like
describe for you.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's just so meandering. There's no point to it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
There's no there's no points being made, there are no
stories being told.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It is like early Twitter of just like and.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We're sitting here and we're talking, like it's just like
total bullshit. And so this was like after we had
purchased equipment, then Teddy in our test runs to try
to figure out how to use the equipment. That's when
Teddy was was involved, but it was more so like
(32:59):
we were just hanging out and Teddy's tolerance was is
very high, and so was mine. Back then it's always everybody.
So this was a night of like heavy drinking.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Oh tolerance for alcohol, not tolerance for bad podcasting.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Oh well that that tolerants of sky high. But yeah, so, uh,
I mean, it's crazy to think that I've done six.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Hundred and three of these. Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Three and ninety eight is a ton. And for Teddy,
you're about to hit the big one zero zero?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Does that mean Teddy's gonna hit the one hundred during
a monst overfest?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Almost certainly?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Oh no, no, unless we do a seven week months
overfest again.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But no fair, our Halloween D and D did last
almost a year.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That is true. Yeah, we did, and I can't.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I do want to just shout out the mall for
nos FROCKT two. Yes, that was Dracula's Yeah, and you
know it would be remiss in not speaking to her
contributions for helping us plan out the content of those,
which I think are some of our best and more
structured efforts. Honorable mention, of course, to Prince B, it's
(34:31):
probably been on a dozen episodes or so. Pour one
out for his erstwhile attempt at Inside Austar Isaac his
podcast Idea or Just the Fantasy Idea Podcast or not.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Prince B was on the thirty eighth episode of the
Wednesday Comic Book Show, and Prince B was also part
of our review of the Night Shyamalan split verse.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Prince By was involved in.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
A couple of episodes of Interruptions, including the one that
you recorded, so Prince B was also on that episode.
And yes, prince By has been involved in almost every
episode of our D and D campaign, with the exception
of a couple of after shows and the It's funny
too because the name of the Wednesday comic book episode
(35:29):
that he was on was a comic book show episode
that he was on was Comic Book Movies Part one.
Because he wanted to talk about it more, he had
this idea that he was going to come on and
sort of be a regular. But the other thing with
me and Prince B is that when we get together
kind of just talk and it never it's very rarely recorded,
(35:55):
as opposed to us where we say to each.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Other's record incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Of super dangerous. Okay. So that's the sort of like
logistics stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm going to go through some episode descriptions and these
are slightly embarrassing episode descriptions.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I want to read them and maybe we can revisit
some of the content if it's juicy enough. But it
does kind of capture in a snapshot a lot of
the different areas that we talk about on the show.
So this is the episode description for episode forty nine
of This is Just bat. In this episode, Professor Mouse
(36:42):
and the cosmologists inexplicably talk about mummies and the Da
Vinci code.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So what the fuck could that be?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Tom Cruise one? Was that the one with the new
mummy with the Tom Cruise.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Or it might have just been me talking about I
was afraid of mummies.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
No, no, that is Teddy there. Mummies are going to
continue to reappear, including mummy movies. They're scary and some
of these episode descriptions, but this just is just is
caused just stone cold talking about the idea of mummies
(37:26):
amazing and and there's this whole kind of like and
this is this was the conversation that led to the
bracket of like monsters and which ones are scary or not?
Because I was vehemently opposed to the idea that a
mummy was scary, and Cause insists.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Playing out childhood trauma. Fore you're like, no, whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Cause insists that mummies are terrified. Yeah, uh, Teddy, where
did you come down on that debate?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
When it comes to mummies being mystical arcane mummies. Ye,
a little more than shambling mummies. I have a my
general thing when it comes to the spooky goolies is
if I can fight it, I'm less afraid of it.
(38:26):
Like ghosts, I'm not an exorcist, can't really do anything
about ghosts. A Jason vorhees, Well, I probably won't win,
but I can certainly I can certainly at least put
up kind of a fight before I horribly get taken out. Mummy.
(38:46):
I think I could take out a mummy if it
was like we're talking like thirties shambling mostly dust and bandages.
Probably can do that. M O tep No. That dude
has like mystic scarebs and like turns into sand monster,
like I can't do. I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
The it's it's great that you're listing monsters, because that's
the next next episode description. I will tell you, because
there are some episodes of this show where Cause and
I just list monsters and just kind of go like,
oh that and that one's scary and that one will
(39:28):
suck you up. But I also used to do this
a lot, where like, for instance, Prince B's wife and
mother of his children. One of the very first conversations
I had with her because it was because this show
it infected my brain. Uh, wife and mother, Sorry the fiends.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Oh okay, ask Isaac again.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm so confused.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
The feeds. One of the very first conversations that I
have with her. We were in the midst of doing
this show. We were like, very heavyly, like monster pilled.
Was that exact thought exercise that you just went through
where I was like, picture this. You're sitting in this
living room and ex monster runs into the room, Like
(40:20):
are you getting out of here alive?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And if so, how so it's going through like and she.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Was very game to talk about this, but she was
like I could fuck a goblin up. And I'm like,
that's what I'm saying, Like they're not good monsters.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
But episode sixty, this was this was a very heated
episode that we had against an online list. So in
this episode, Professor Mouse and the Cosmologist talk home decor
and guess what the top ten monsters are according to
a Bad Rancor list. And so if you remember this episode,
(41:04):
you were getting heated.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Because set getting angry thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Because you were like, wait, angels aren't in the top twenty,
like do they know how scary angels are?
Speaker 5 (41:20):
That's probably in the middle of my first watch of
the Kripke scensons of Supernatural at that point.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Oh yes, And that that was another sort of like
shadow reason why monsters became sort of a central organizing
principle of this show is that this also is sort
of an archive of your increased fandom for Supernatural, Like
you start the way watching the Supernatural.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, and as Supernatural rewires my brain and helps to
increase my monster tolerance, and so I start getting into horror,
which is an evolving process for me in a way
that I hadn't before. So yes, that that poll definitely
takes the show in a in a monster heavy direction
(42:07):
as a result, But it's so using the black as
Night being such a lynchpin of the early show, like
that that is really good foreshadowing.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, no, it really is, because this, this, this whole
thing is sort of an archive of like both of
our I think, uh, embracing horror as a genre and
also like trying to consider it as something that won't
(42:39):
terrify us.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
And I was kind of like realizing that movies aren't real.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Uh, do you want to take a guess because I
have the ranker list, Do you want to revisit this
trauma and take a guess of what's the scariest mon.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Can you remind me where Thulu ranks on it? Because
I feel like that ended up being pretty high up.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I'm gonna have to scroll a lot. No, Kathulhu was
very low and you were upset about that.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Oh okay, so so no, that's as much revisiting as
I want to do. Okay, particularly frustrating the cosmic car
was so low.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yes, Xenomorph is number one, which is crazy.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
I mean that is space horror and they are scary.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah. Episode seventy seven. I thought this was a good
contrast and something that sort of typifies the balance that
we try to strike on the show. In this episode,
Professor Mouse and the Cosmologists discussed Karl Marx's capital and
magic the gathering.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Wow. Yeah, awesome. That is a stereotype of this show,
to be honest.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, that's kind of a classic type of episode where
we have something like we have a very heavy conversation
and then probably a clumsy, shambling segue that is indelicate
and doesn't make sense, where it's like anyway, The Lord
(44:16):
of the Rings Magic the Gathering Deck just came out.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Episode one sees.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
The means of production and of Seramon's factories.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Episode seventeen, this is a time capsule. There were a
ton of episodes.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
There's an episode that comes out in March on March
twenty seventh of twenty twenty, entitled COVID nineteen. And so
there is also in this archive our documented descent into
insanity over Lockdown. And episode one seventeen was sometime after
(45:05):
the vaccines came out. And this is the description that
I wrote. In this episode, Professor Mouse and the cosmologists
discussed their experiences with booster shots. Professor Mouse is also
writing this episode description in a fuche state, so he
doesn't remember anything else they talked about and cannot be
bothered to find out.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
So I did go.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
I did go, and I re listened to what we
talked about, and I scrubbed through very fast because it
is embarrassing, and it's just kind of me trying to
explain because I just finished this book.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
The plot of Isaac Asimov's Foundation.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
Yeah, while suffering from a booster shot, while being totally
incapable of talking, and then Finally, before we go into
who said this.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Episode one, this is a month stoverfest episode. In this episode,
Professor Mouse and the cosmologists lived that Snipe's life.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yes, dude, I'm of far a glowing retrospective, I'm sure
on Blade.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It is also a testament to how much I did
not enjoy Shadow of the Vampire. That we also talked
about that, and I didn't include it in the episode
description even at all.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, no, I think we got a little heated about
that too, because I really like Shadow of the Vampire.
But you know, some podcasters, so I was trying to
ice skate up Hill.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Okay, So to sort of round out the uh the
discussion here, I did some pull quotes. I pulled some quotes,
and these are things that were said on the podcast
that made me laugh as I was scrubbing through episodes today.
I don't have a ton and it's almost immediately obvious
(47:03):
who said each one, but I think it also kind.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Of castures capture something.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
And I threw in some wild cards that were said
by some friends on interruptions, which will also probably be obvious.
So this one both made me laugh for a long
time during the episode and again today when I reheard it.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
So guess who said this?
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I have three different guys on my team with the
initials Jay Williams.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
I think it's important that we are have yet to
talk about football this season, and it speaks too, I
guess our disillusion with the concept the fantasy football. Also,
that's either you or the fiend. I'm gonna say you,
(48:10):
this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Uh, Teddy, who do you think said that?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I have no idea, honestly, no clue.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
This is cause.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
And let me explain the context to you. So this
is the first football episode that we do, and we're
talking about the fantasy draft, and I'm saying I'm saying
it was crazy when we drafted last night because there
was so much stuff that happened in the NFL that
(48:48):
I didn't know about, like, for instance, that the Raiders
are in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
What do you know?
Speaker 5 (48:55):
How checked out you are?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, I had no idea about.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
And then to add to that and to for for
sure one up me you show I drafted so many
people I don't know. And then when I looked at
my team this morning, I got confused because there's three
guys on my roster and all of them are Jay Williams, amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Wow. It really does show a growth though, because from
your starting point in fantasy football to now, you know,
a deeper understanding has been had.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, I understand it. I made peace with it, and
I stopped doing it.
Speaker 7 (49:35):
Yeah, and I think by like by the end of
your sort of fantasy run, you were able to disaggregate
all the Jay Williams, Yes, this this next quote, I mean,
this is.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Just so obvious.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
The story of elden Ring, as I understand it is
there are various spoopy castles that you go into and
you fight a bunch of ghouls and goblins and demons
and roly polleys and frogs and all kinds of crazy shit.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
That's gotta because.
Speaker 5 (50:18):
No, I think that is Professor Mouse trying to explain
Elden Ring to me.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
I proceeded this by saying, I don't know what the
fuck that game was about, and if I'm keeping it real,
at the exact same moment with everybody in this room,
this is what I think it's about. And mind you,
I checked the PlayStation data and I've spent one hundred
and fifty hours playing that game, and I still kind
(50:48):
of don't know what the story is, and that episode
is entitled Elden Lord because I had just beaten the
game and became like the Elden Lord, and I had
no idea what that meant. After I finished it and
beat the last boss, I was kind of like confused.
And that was in no small part because I skipped
(51:11):
through every single cut scene and I didn't talk to
any like.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
NBC, and it was a whole thing of just me
not understanding video games.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
Yeah, the cornerstones of our podcast is your allergy to
cut scenes and being told what to do in a
video game.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, don't tell me what to do.
Speaker 5 (51:36):
The first left turn. I can to fight the first
bear I can find, and fuck your rules?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, where are the bears at in this game? Next
quote with your beef waterloo? Did it come with a
basteel day salad which is just a head of lettuce?
Speaker 5 (51:56):
That's that's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Teddy's so stupid.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
And as now you're laughing, you laughed back then when
you made this joke.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Look, I can say this with all the love in
my heart. You all know what you signed up for
when you invited me again. The whole discussion as to
this show, you asked me, Hey, can you pun out
something better than this? And I was like, nah, I
think you got it.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I did follow up and say potatoes au guillotine.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Nice, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
You know at that point was yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
At that point. I was still trying to like engage
with the button making.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, sometimes you can fry yourself out a little.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
And then I guess this is an honorable mention.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
But this is this is just a wild story that
I came across that I'd totally forgotten about.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
So this is the quote.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
I start reading the text message, bro, and the text
message is like, hey, I know we haven't been together
in a while, but you were the last person I
was with and I'm pretty sure the baby's yours.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Oh that is a story only the Fiend could tell.
I think.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
It is the Fiend indeed, And he was talking about
this was like ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
So this was kind of like, I don't know if
your phones.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Are currently blowing up constantly with spam of like we're recruiting,
do you want to sell your house? Like all this
like nonsense. This was like ten years ago, and he
was pretty convinced that this was potentially true and was
(54:00):
only cued into the fact that it was a scam
because the person referred to him as Derek, which is
not his name, and so you know, you can kind
of narrow it down from there what his real name is.
But that also it wasn't a scam, it was a
wrong number, which is even more terrified.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Oh no, whoa.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
Um.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
The Fiend also said.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
When we were reminiscing about why we were friends, and
this was a very early episode of interruptions, if not
maybe the first one, he was talking to me and
he said, let's be best friends because both our friends
do crack now, which is a real thing that happened,
is a real reason why we became friends.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Our mutual friends linked us up.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
And then over time tho mutual friends stop being our
friends because of the horrors of drug addiction that are
inhering in a lot of our cities.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
That was just a really weird, dark thing from early
on in this show.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
My friendship with the Fiend is based on our originally
mutual love for Kirk and Spock.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah, I mean imagine us in that environment being like,
you know, what we're really interested in is like space
and like and monsters and shit. Like we're not trying
to do hard drugs.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
But yeah, So any final thoughts, clean hour, just retrospective
talking about this show and the weird things that we
talk about and what it means to us.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
I'm for to another hundred and one hundred for me
and three hundred from all of us.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah, here's to another nine years of accidentally unpacking trauma
and self discovery through the lens of complaining about bad television,
I guess, and finding good television.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
Finding good television it's fun, you know, and all of
those different types of I don't want to foreclose any
of the stuff that we consider doing in the past.
I just know it's gonna take so long, and it's
gonna be it's gonna move at a snail's pace, like
(56:39):
we had talked about doing like some kind of serialized
like like narrative podcast arc where we like sat down
and wrote something. And there is I think a compulsion
among all three of us to want to do creative stuff,
and that has been stifled by the demands of capitalism.
(57:03):
And I think it would be a disservice to us
as people if we did not do those things.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
But I also like the pressure.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
The time pressure is real, and I think that we
were like we were, I mean, because you and I
would be doing those sketches and they were fun and
I love them and I miss them.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
But we would be doing Google.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Doc furious typing, random editing bullshit five minutes before we
recorded and being like, oh god, this this is gonna
have to be a short one because the.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Fucking Yeah, like I remember doing these on the bus
on the way back from like a substitute teaching gig
in another country. Yeah, yeah, it's not try to squeeze
it in. So yeah, I mean, and I absolutely agree
we're all compelled to do some sort of creative outlet.
Sometimes show becomes a launching pad or a reflecting pool
(58:04):
to talk about other creative outlets that we have, which
I think is wonderful. And yeah, I'm I'm so grateful
that we have this as a way to keep us
tied in and tied together as we you know, our
lives expand and grow, and it's you know, I'm looking
forward to as much or as little as Munchie wants
(58:29):
to be involved. Ye, seeing the growth there and what
your creative endeavors look like as a parent, that's one that's.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Great, Yeah, for sure. And Munchie has appeared on this episode.
Speaker 5 (58:42):
Okay, start writing up Munchi's talents.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
True, Yeah, Munkey's tally's going to grow exponentially because she
is now saying words that we now are sure correspond
to the thing she's talking about, whereas before we were
still kind of like, I don't know about this.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yeah, we just we just saw you all in person,
and Mall was talking to me about the month. She's
got the call and response thing down really well. Of
you know, early baby talk is about getting the cadence
of conversation down, whether or not the words make any
sense of like him pausing for a response, and you know,
the give and the take, and so you know, podcast
(59:24):
conversations are a great practice field for that too.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Her favorite word, and this is most toddler's favorite word
because their parents say it to them.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
So often, is no.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
And there's also such a weird antagonism that I have
with my daughter, who is constantly fighting with me because
I'm the disciplinary parent.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
I like, I like never let her do what she
wants to do, as.
Speaker 5 (59:54):
Which, to be clear, is electrocute her self in an outlet.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
Yes, yes, so she and I just and I was
telling you that day.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
She and I spend.
Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Entire days just just like arguing with each other. She
she just looks, She just stares me directly in the
face and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Goes no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
As she is trying to drink toilet water, and I'm like,
you shouldn't do that, like not even not even coming
in strong enough being like this is a bad idea
on many levels.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
She's just like, don't you dare stop me?
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
See that? First of all cute. Second of all, my
reaction of that sounds adorable. Means that I probably would
not be a very strict parent. I would not I
would be walked over so easy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
No, yeah, it is like, yeah, it is is that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
But this is great. I love the show and I
just love talking to buds. It's so fun. You'll probably
record another one in a couple of minutes. That'll do
it for this episode of It's just bad. We'll see
in the next one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Bye.
Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
It's just an ad. It's like, oh, pirates bort your brain,
Robin Nala is no joking opening your mind with the
probusts as you woke in hit Hydra halen Hares had
for a time for a head of reasons for more
than with the soldiers, with them for all seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Listen closely while.
Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
We share our expert teas and cust like comics culture,
deem streetuition to the multiversity als. It'syco teaching, perfect balance.
When we snap in benit gens into your ears, just
the shoulders when we speak Purple men versuasive speech were
Randy savagdreads their mortal technique
Time.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It's like a clown. No, don't this little page.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
He's bagging boarding, Batman and the gutter like a mate
story tellers me some fellas, we some felons.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Isn't amazing. It's like appella bearver sell it because this
shit is so contagious.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Mouths on the.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Summer He's co pilot, got the show while the cycle
spinning knowledge on the getty like appro beat the Babo,
be the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Don't step to the squad, we get activic and hate.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's like a stepla.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Parts you don't like fish talk?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Do you hate?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's a matl We.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The cuddle, fish Killers, Tenda Pools on the taping Greatest
five Stars, If you cherish your life, Bucky Barneshit Squad,
spraying leg and your pipe.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Is This Just Bad?
Is This Just Bad? The best podcast you never heard of?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm your host, Professor Mouse, joined as always by the
cbe Cosmologist and Teddy. It's episode three hundred and we
are celebrating by taking a trip down memory lane.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I have several games prepared.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Which were generated by me doing the unenviable task of
revisiting the things that we say and do on this
podcast truly mortifying some of the things even in episode
descriptions which I have pulled out the kinds of topics
(01:21):
that we've covered over the past at this point nine years,
and it will be a kind of retrospective where we're
going to talk about the show and spend some time
celebrating the fact that we have committed to something for
(01:42):
and I won't say the exact number, several hundreds of episodes.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So three hundreds of episodes, well.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's not we're doing We're doing we're doing Batman numbering.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So when they renumber, we still.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Have that that that the classic originalist number.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And you get how.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Many crazies, crisis events, crossover events, and.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I will tell you all three of us have different numbers.
So let's uh.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Opar to kick each other straight down there with the
memory hole for what might be the three hundredth episode,
depending on how you count.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know, it's wild.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So there to talk about taking a trip down sort
of memory lane here, I'll say, because I kind of
started this show as like a a thing to do
every week that was initially inclusive of neither of the
(02:50):
two co hosts in this chat, but my friends who
live closer to me and who were unable to continue
doing a podcast because the important thing about podcasting is consistency,
(03:12):
and there was a total inability to be consistent with
my best friends who I grew up with, and that
is very much indicative of our whole relationship and dynamic.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So there are several hundreds of episodes.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Wherein the Cosmologist is not a part of it and
Teddy is not a part of it or part of
the show. So that brings us to sort of the
first game, and hopefully this will jog some memories.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I have identified.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The first episode that both of you appeared on, the
date that that episode was released, and the name of
the episode. So I want to do it in this way. Well,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put it out to you, folks,
(04:18):
because I also have all of that data for me.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So will it would it be.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
More helpful to triangulate because I want to give you
a shot here because this is almost impossible. Would it
be more helpful to triangulate the those.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Specifics for you if I tell you the specifics for me?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yes, if we can maybe align the telemetry a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Okay, aligning the telemetry is the cosmologist vote, Teddy, do
you want to just raw dog a guess?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I mean, I think my preference would be aligning. But
the fact that you said raw dog a guest, I guess,
I'm like, all right, well, I sort of need to
do that for the rule of three.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
That freudiance slip of raw dog a guest is not good. Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Will I will lay my stats out. So my first
published episode was the first episode of The Wednesday Comic
Book Show, which premiered on April sixth of twenty sixteen.
I have appeared on three hundred episodes of Is This
Just Bad, eighty nine episodes of the Friday tie In,
(05:41):
one hundred and seventy five episodes of The Wednesday Comic
Book Show, and thirty nine episodes of Interruptions, which was
the first show. And that is a grand total of
six hundred and three episodes that I have appeared on.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This making six hundred and four. So does that help
at all?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No? Weirdly a little. It helps me a little bit
because I remember, I remember the Friday tie in, and
I remember the the work shopping of this show's name.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, and I think for it, and Teddy, you are.
I can give some hints also for cause your first
appearance is much earlier than you probably are thinking of,
and then there was a huge chasm in between your appearance. Teddy,
(06:46):
your appearances are exclusively on Is this just bat?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah? So I'm guessing I probably have like three hundred
and ninety episodes. I'm going to assume I have like
one guest appearance on the Wednesday Comic Book Show, and
then we started the Friday tie in, and then I
never appeared on interruptions. I don't think we did our
like beef.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Thing for a while where we.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Were beefing with them, but I don't think we ever
crossed over. I ever crossed over officially, so that would
put me. I'm gonna say my first appearance is sometime
in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, Teddy, do you want to steal?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Wouldn't it have been the later half of twenty sixteen?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
The later half of twenty sixteen? Okay, So let's do
date first. So on this runt, Teddy wins, your first
appearance was July sixth.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Wait, so and you said Wednesday. Tian starts in April.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, the Wednesday Comic Book Show. Yeah, starts in April.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, sorry, Wednesday. I didn't remember being on that early
into your run of your solo show.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, yes, you were on episode fourteen of the Wednesday
Comic Book Show. It was an episode entitled Ultimitification, and
we talked about, uh, there's some stuff that I have
to eliminate. We talked about comic books, and we promised
(08:40):
to do some event theme episodes in the future, and
we can talk about those in a second. Because we did,
we not only catched in on that problems, we also
just started doing the show together.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Okay, So now.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Number I want to know why I thought of that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, tell Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So the reason I remember that is because the first
episode that I heard you all on like after, I
was like, oh, yeah, y'all are doing a show. Let
me listen to, like keep up with my friends from
this time. The first one I listened to was the
when you all were talking about the eminent release of
(09:26):
Doctor Strange. Doctor Strange came out like around that Thanksgiving
of that year, so I didn't hear the first episodes.
I heard like a much later, like I think, in
like a September ish episode when you're like, oh, yeah,
and Doctor Strange is coming out, and just I just
have that because there was a talk of cosplay very
(09:48):
earth cause early on in that area and whether or
not you were going to do a Doctor Stranger stick
with what you were already doing. So anyway, yeah, that's
why I was like, no, it couldn't have been like
early in twenty sixteen, because like I was much later.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Anyway, very cool, I like that, Yeah, And the initial
idea of the Friday tie in was that I would
listen to the Wednesday show and then have some kind
of response.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Which was a very wrestling Yeah, it was a bad
idea honestly, but I mean good in theory. But it
was also this thing where I think we had an
ambition to do episodes, or we had an ambition to
do episode formats and show concepts that we probably could
(10:39):
do if this was our full time job or we
worked in media full time. And I think over time
we like because initially we were just kind of like,
we're going to do a podcast to stay in touch,
and it'll be a personal record and a personal archive.
But then when we started being like, well, what is
a podcast and how do you do it? We started
(11:00):
throwing out all these different.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Ideas, gimmicks, what and is it going to be a fiction?
We had our very we had started weaving sort of
a cosmology and various bits and rescripting things for a while.
And you're right, if that had been a full time
endeavor or closer to our jobs, or even further away
from our jobs, maybe where if our jobs didn't include
(11:25):
writing in other contexts, that might make it make a difference.
But yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, So episode number that Cause has appeared at you
threw out a number already.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, I'm going to stick to the three to ninety Okay, Teddy,
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's I mean, if it's twenty sixteen, I would I
would probably go somewhere like north of four. So let's
say let's say four to eighty as a no, you
know what, No, I'll swing for the fences. Let's say
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Okay, Cause nailed this.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
It is three hundred and ninety eight episodes across all episodes,
and so here here's the breakdown.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She did three hundred episodes of Is It's Just Bad?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You did eighty nine episodes of the Friday tie In,
You did one episode of the Cosmologist, Chronicles, which.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Was, Yeah, the one thing I had to write, You're out.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
A solo show that you did.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You did six episodes of the Wednesday Comic Book Show,
and I'll i'll list those because they're interesting, and one
episode of Interruptions. And the interesting thing about the one
episode of obviously you can't find it now because we
have retreated into full anonymity.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was on video and it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Was during a period in which we never really did
the show in person, but there was a very like
weird Aberrant thing where you had to be in the
same place as us, and we took that as an
opportunity to kind of celebrate you. It was around your birthday,
(13:31):
and as part of that, we all got into the
room with microphones and I have the video still and
it is funny. But yeah, you were on one episode
of Interruptions. And this was before the sort of beef,
because I was still on the show. The beef happened
when I sort of left the show. In terms of
(13:54):
the episodes of the Wednesday Comic Book Show that you did,
these sort of anticipated what the Friday tie in would
eventually become and why we kind of transitioned into is
this just bad so like the life span of the
show is essentially we kind of figured out what we
(14:15):
would eventually be doing when you were guesting on the
Wednesday Comic Book Show. We took a hard detour into
a more kind of ambitious format, and then we returned
back to the mean with doing episodes that had were
(14:36):
like broadly organized around a theme.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So you did two episodes back to back.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So you are an episode fourteen of the Wednesday Comic
Book Show and then you are on episode fifteen of
the Wednesday Comic Book Show with mal In an episode
entitled Cosplay, HENTI and Tumblr.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
All Time Classic.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I do.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Believe it is because Yeah, I mean I would have
I I'm almost certain that you pitched those topics because
I would have never talked about any of the three
of those things because I have had I barely have
any knowledge of them now and I certainly didn't have
any knowledge of them ten years ago. The next episode
(15:23):
after that, and this, this is kind of like the
thesis statement of the Friday tie in, was our episode
on Blackest Night.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So we did a very very very long.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Episode where we covered Jeff Johns's Blackest Night, and it
was this bizarre thing where.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Cause was was was basically.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Outlining how important of a book it was to him,
and that led us into being like, we got to
check this the rest of this guy shit out and
becoming this sort of like slow devolution and quality and
a very sort of like, I don't know, how would
(16:14):
you describe it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was kind of like a c descent.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, our journeyed our disillusionment with Jeff Johnson.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Which started from and I kind of forgot that.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
We did an episode on Blackest Night and I and
I sort of like listened to parts of it today.
It was like very complementary and also very sort of
like optimistic, kind of like that book itself in a
lot of ways, and it was the sort of thing of, Yeah,
we're gonna keep We're gonna keep engaging with this artist
(16:44):
because this artist is like operating on the same frequency
as us.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
To the middle point where.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, sorry, continue to finishing your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I was just gonna say, to the point where we
then organize an entire show around a piece of art
that he was doing and then canceled that show based
on our distaste of that particular comic book.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, I went to a convention and met the man
and got a picture with him, and then little did
I understand. I think, looking back, the fact that the
one thing that he wrote that really resonated with us
is a horror story is in a monster book, which
(17:30):
he then refused to do again, really probably should include
me into something, but I didn't know myself well enough
to understand the importance of it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Being monsters we are monsters are going to come up
in this episode for sure, and they simply must.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Just based on everything about us.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I'm about Mal's number of episodes. I don't know if
you pulled that data, because the I remember Mal being
on that about cosplay and then a way too long
takedown of the Last Jedi. Uh, and that would have
(18:13):
been I think an early Friday tie in episode.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Was she on the last Jedi episode?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So the takedown episode that I remember scrolling past, I
didn't I didn't get the exact numbers was for the film.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right, Oh yeah, we did.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
My ill fated attempt to actually like post weekly on
Instagram with some kind of thing about the show.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, oh yeah, she was also on the last It
seemed like all of Maul's appearances.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Were pretty cloistered, and then she just kind of stopped
wanting to be on the show. Can't blame her.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, it seems like the last Jet the Cosplay episode
and an episode on Bright which honestly, that's a bad
way to go out.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Having to watch that fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
The next the final two episodes or the next two
episodes of the Wednesday comic book show that you did
were the Infinity Saga. And there is a naivety in
the way that we talk about this where we began
reading these books as a way of prepping for the
(19:35):
Infinity Saga that the MCU was gearing up for, and
it is a slow disillusionment also of like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
How Hollywood that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Universe was becoming, because it was like there was some
interesting stuff in those books, particularly the fact that it's
kind of like Thanos's motivations are uh, we're speaking at
the time to like what we would call it in
cell culture, and it was kind of more interesting than
(20:13):
the sort of like the human management like like the
the Thanos the Demographer.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, Thanos the eco terrorists sort of yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, where the we we We spoke very positively about
the character of death in that book, and that was
one of the only positive things that we talked about
in that book, and it was the thing that was
removed from those films.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
The two things that were removed was death and it's
interesting that Jim Starlin nailed in cell culture so well
and Joss Whedon refused to touch that. No, well, we
know about Jess Whedon now. And also the Buddy Cop
Road movie of Doctor.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
De Yeah, which was very very.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Fun, yeah, which is a lot of one of the
things like I still remember doing terrible voice acting for
those which is the light I had a lot of
fun with. And that is another thing that the MCU
has shot itself on the foot and cannot.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Do right because they have like yeah, yeah, yeah. And
that's weird too, because there are several episodes of the
podcast where we speak very glowingly about Jonathan Majors.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm sure we do. He had some excellent performances.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
We did an entire run dedicated to Lovecraft Country and
then the final speaking of and you just mentioned it,
the final episode that you did on the Wednesday Comic
book show was the Justice League review. We watched it
and we were like, we have to talk about this.
(21:57):
I think it was partially because we were reading Justice
League at the time, and I think this was sort
of towards like the the Friday tie in and the
Wednesday Comic book show start to premiere on on Wednesdays
and Friday, so on the same week, and in the
Friday Tiyan we are reading Justice League books and so
(22:20):
we are constantly talking about this bullshit again a kind
of naivete which was like where we were still very
wedded to like the idea of source material and engaging
source material before movies came out.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And I remember this being a kind.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Of an academic interest of yours in college, and then
it kind of being like the comic book to silver
screen translation is not worth delving into because they're not
doing anything interesting. Oftentimes, they're two totally separate documents, and
(23:01):
the all of the things that you're interested in trying
to like mine from source material to see how it
translates is not a concern of anybody in the MCU.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Yeah, they simply don't get translated. And to the point
of like they'll pick a title here, a character there,
and yeah, we found finally that it just wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So yeah, then uh, we start the Friday tie in.
It is at this point that we kind of realize
that Teddy is sort of listening.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
To the show.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's a great way of putting that.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, but Teddy is not on any episodes of The
Friday Tian, which I kind of gasled myself into thinking
that he was.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Teddy does not appear until.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I think we start mentioning Teddy because we are getting
like live blogging reaction texts from him.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think so, And so in my memory,
Teddy's been a part of the show for longer than
he's actually been. But that said, has built a pretty
impressive resume here. So first appearance, number of episodes, I mean,
(24:27):
and if you can nail the name of the episode,
that would be insane, But yes, first appearance, a number
of episodes for.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Teddy, I to take as as a colleague has been
saying a swag, which is a scientific wild ass guest, I.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Would have to say it would be like maybe twenty
twenty one, and so that's like, so, yeah, twenty twenty one,
and it would be like like March of twenty twenty
one maybe, and number of episodes I have been in
(25:16):
and out for a minute, so like let's say ninety.
Now it's got to be more than ninety because there
are a lot of episodes of thus it is just bad.
So let's go with one hundred and twenty and name
of the episode something involving Westworld. Cause I think one
(25:41):
of the first episodes I came on to, y'all were
talking about Westworld, and I was like, I have not
there's so much of this show. I have not watched this.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I think I do remember that. I'm gonna say, I'm
gonna give I think, say like two hundred episodes, but
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, these are interesting guesses.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Because so Teddy, you are identifying the period in which
you begin to engage with us. There was a very
specific episode of the show that I remember you texting
me about, which was when I explained to Cause.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
The Triller event that.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
What Jake Paul versus Ben ascrit and that that was
posted on in April of twenty twenty one. So you
were definitely engaging with us at that point, but you
had not appeared on the show yet.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
So in terms of date, wait, cause what did you say?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I said twenty twenty two?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You said twenty twenty two. This is wild, And this
also surprised me. Teddy's first appearance February third, twenty twenty three. Wow, okay,
relatively recently. Number of episodes, Teddy says one to twenty, cause,
(27:22):
as it does two hundred, Teddy's first instinct was correct
ninety two episodes.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, and once you say to my twenty three, there's
no physical way for him to have been on two
hundred episodes. We can't record that off. I will say
one of the things I love about Teddy being on
is re energizing us to the idea of themes and
gimmicks and I think, you know, sort of reorganizing. Some
(27:55):
of the things I think I'm most proud of that
we've done have been Monthstoberfest. You know, while I generally
don't love what we watched for when is this just good?
I like the the effort of that kind of theming
it certainly our fore and D and D absolutely so
(28:15):
it's it's been a really wonderful injection of energy and
perspective to get him joining us.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So, the the first episode that Teddy appeared on as
an episode is episode one of Is This Just Bad?
Called Gods and Monsters, And in that episode we talk
about the DC under Gun and Saffron just released their
(28:49):
sort of slate of movies.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Oh right, Okay, So I was about to say, we've
talked about the Ian McKellen movie, but I don't think
it was on that episode.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And there were there and there were a lot of
sort of like allusions to the potential of integrating, like
like the Swamp Thing was was was announced, the Swamp
Thing movie, and like speculation about like Darkseide or the
New Gods. I think at that point miracle Man had
already been announced or something like.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
And Tom King and Ava du Verne may have been
working on scripts at that time.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, and so Teddy came on to talk about that.
But to your point about Monstoverfest, So we did the
first monstover Fest, which was a seven week series on
vampires draculous even which about Dracula's where I was like, wait,
how are we calling this a themed month?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
This is like two months of the of the show.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And then so Teddy was on sporadically, and then when
we did the second monstover Fest, then Teddy that's when
Teddy really became a mainstay on the show. Participated in
every episode of Monstoberfest lat Or in twenty twenty four,
I guess, and then it's our monster Smash. That was
(30:17):
our monster Smash, and then we'll obviously be participating in
Monstoverfest this year. They're the one caveat that I will
make to this teddy. And we've we've talked about this
a couple of times. Is that you did record an
episode of interruptions.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
With me and the boys.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
That we recorded blacked out, and that is you is irretrievable,
and you were there with us, and I remember, for
the longest time I kept asking you, like, do you
know how to recover a file from a computer that's
just totally dead? And the theory, the theory surrounding it
(31:07):
was that we actually probably never hit record because nobody,
everybody has a collective memory that we did it, but
we can't find the file.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And wait, was that when we Oh so I was
about to say some doxying things. Uh I vaguely wait,
I think I remember, huh.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, I mean, I love the idea.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I have an image of you sitting around all holding
microphones and just simply not recording any of it.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean, and this is a point at which, like,
I mean, this was a point at which too, I mean,
because this was pre this was in our and I
listened to some horrifying recordings that we did in terms
of and content. We were trying to figure out like
what the fuck was going on and like how to
(32:06):
do a podcast. And I remember putting my phone in
the middle of the table and it being surrounded with
idiots and we're and we're talking and it it's it
is a level of inanity that I can't even like
describe for you.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's just so meandering. There's no point to it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
There's no there's no points being made, there are no
stories being told.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It is like early Twitter of just like and.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We're sitting here and we're talking, like it's just like
total bullshit. And so this was like after we had
purchased equipment, then Teddy in our test runs to try
to figure out how to use the equipment. That's when
Teddy was was involved, but it was more so like
(32:59):
we were just hanging out and Teddy's tolerance was is
very high, and so was mine. Back then it's always everybody.
So this was a night of like heavy drinking.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Oh tolerance for alcohol, not tolerance for bad podcasting.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Oh well that that tolerants of sky high. But yeah, so, uh,
I mean, it's crazy to think that I've done six.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Hundred and three of these. Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Three and ninety eight is a ton. And for Teddy,
you're about to hit the big one zero zero?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Does that mean Teddy's gonna hit the one hundred during
a monst overfest?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Almost certainly?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Oh no, no, unless we do a seven week months
overfest again.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But no fair, our Halloween D and D did last
almost a year.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That is true. Yeah, we did, and I can't.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I do want to just shout out the mall for
nos FROCKT two. Yes, that was Dracula's Yeah, and you
know it would be remiss in not speaking to her
contributions for helping us plan out the content of those,
which I think are some of our best and more
structured efforts. Honorable mention, of course, to Prince B, it's
(34:31):
probably been on a dozen episodes or so. Pour one
out for his erstwhile attempt at Inside Austar Isaac his
podcast Idea or Just the Fantasy Idea Podcast or not.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Prince B was on the thirty eighth episode of the
Wednesday Comic Book Show, and Prince B was also part
of our review of the Night Shyamalan split verse.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Prince By was involved in.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
A couple of episodes of Interruptions, including the one that
you recorded, so Prince B was also on that episode.
And yes, prince By has been involved in almost every
episode of our D and D campaign, with the exception
of a couple of after shows and the It's funny
too because the name of the Wednesday comic book episode
(35:29):
that he was on was a comic book show episode
that he was on was Comic Book Movies Part one.
Because he wanted to talk about it more, he had
this idea that he was going to come on and
sort of be a regular. But the other thing with
me and Prince B is that when we get together
kind of just talk and it never it's very rarely recorded,
(35:55):
as opposed to us where we say to each.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Other's record incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Of super dangerous. Okay. So that's the sort of like
logistics stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm going to go through some episode descriptions and these
are slightly embarrassing episode descriptions.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I want to read them and maybe we can revisit
some of the content if it's juicy enough. But it
does kind of capture in a snapshot a lot of
the different areas that we talk about on the show.
So this is the episode description for episode forty nine
of This is Just bat. In this episode, Professor Mouse
(36:42):
and the cosmologists inexplicably talk about mummies and the Da
Vinci code.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So what the fuck could that be?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Tom Cruise one? Was that the one with the new
mummy with the Tom Cruise.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Or it might have just been me talking about I
was afraid of mummies.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
No, no, that is Teddy there. Mummies are going to
continue to reappear, including mummy movies. They're scary and some
of these episode descriptions, but this just is just is
caused just stone cold talking about the idea of mummies
(37:26):
amazing and and there's this whole kind of like and
this is this was the conversation that led to the
bracket of like monsters and which ones are scary or not?
Because I was vehemently opposed to the idea that a
mummy was scary, and Cause insists.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Playing out childhood trauma. Fore you're like, no, whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Cause insists that mummies are terrified. Yeah, uh, Teddy, where
did you come down on that debate?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
When it comes to mummies being mystical arcane mummies. Ye,
a little more than shambling mummies. I have a my
general thing when it comes to the spooky goolies is
if I can fight it, I'm less afraid of it.
(38:26):
Like ghosts, I'm not an exorcist, can't really do anything
about ghosts. A Jason vorhees, Well, I probably won't win,
but I can certainly I can certainly at least put
up kind of a fight before I horribly get taken out. Mummy.
(38:46):
I think I could take out a mummy if it
was like we're talking like thirties shambling mostly dust and bandages.
Probably can do that. M O tep No. That dude
has like mystic scarebs and like turns into sand monster,
like I can't do. I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
The it's it's great that you're listing monsters, because that's
the next next episode description. I will tell you, because
there are some episodes of this show where Cause and
I just list monsters and just kind of go like,
oh that and that one's scary and that one will
(39:28):
suck you up. But I also used to do this
a lot, where like, for instance, Prince B's wife and
mother of his children. One of the very first conversations
I had with her because it was because this show
it infected my brain. Uh, wife and mother, Sorry the fiends.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Oh okay, ask Isaac again.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm so confused.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
The feeds. One of the very first conversations that I
have with her. We were in the midst of doing
this show. We were like, very heavyly, like monster pilled.
Was that exact thought exercise that you just went through
where I was like, picture this. You're sitting in this
living room and ex monster runs into the room, Like
(40:20):
are you getting out of here alive?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And if so, how so it's going through like and she.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Was very game to talk about this, but she was
like I could fuck a goblin up. And I'm like,
that's what I'm saying, Like they're not good monsters.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
But episode sixty, this was this was a very heated
episode that we had against an online list. So in
this episode, Professor Mouse and the Cosmologist talk home decor
and guess what the top ten monsters are according to
a Bad Rancor list. And so if you remember this episode,
(41:04):
you were getting heated.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Because set getting angry thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Because you were like, wait, angels aren't in the top twenty,
like do they know how scary angels are?
Speaker 5 (41:20):
That's probably in the middle of my first watch of
the Kripke scensons of Supernatural at that point.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Oh yes, And that that was another sort of like
shadow reason why monsters became sort of a central organizing
principle of this show is that this also is sort
of an archive of your increased fandom for Supernatural, Like
you start the way watching the Supernatural.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, and as Supernatural rewires my brain and helps to
increase my monster tolerance, and so I start getting into horror,
which is an evolving process for me in a way
that I hadn't before. So yes, that that poll definitely
takes the show in a in a monster heavy direction
(42:07):
as a result, But it's so using the black as
Night being such a lynchpin of the early show, like
that that is really good foreshadowing.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, no, it really is, because this, this, this whole
thing is sort of an archive of like both of
our I think, uh, embracing horror as a genre and
also like trying to consider it as something that won't
(42:39):
terrify us.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
And I was kind of like realizing that movies aren't real.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Uh, do you want to take a guess because I
have the ranker list, Do you want to revisit this
trauma and take a guess of what's the scariest mon.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Can you remind me where Thulu ranks on it? Because
I feel like that ended up being pretty high up.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I'm gonna have to scroll a lot. No, Kathulhu was
very low and you were upset about that.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Oh okay, so so no, that's as much revisiting as
I want to do. Okay, particularly frustrating the cosmic car
was so low.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yes, Xenomorph is number one, which is crazy.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
I mean that is space horror and they are scary.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah. Episode seventy seven. I thought this was a good
contrast and something that sort of typifies the balance that
we try to strike on the show. In this episode,
Professor Mouse and the Cosmologists discussed Karl Marx's capital and
magic the gathering.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Wow. Yeah, awesome. That is a stereotype of this show,
to be honest.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, that's kind of a classic type of episode where
we have something like we have a very heavy conversation
and then probably a clumsy, shambling segue that is indelicate
and doesn't make sense, where it's like anyway, The Lord
(44:16):
of the Rings Magic the Gathering Deck just came out.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Episode one sees.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
The means of production and of Seramon's factories.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Episode seventeen, this is a time capsule. There were a
ton of episodes.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
There's an episode that comes out in March on March
twenty seventh of twenty twenty, entitled COVID nineteen. And so
there is also in this archive our documented descent into
insanity over Lockdown. And episode one seventeen was sometime after
(45:05):
the vaccines came out. And this is the description that
I wrote. In this episode, Professor Mouse and the cosmologists
discussed their experiences with booster shots. Professor Mouse is also
writing this episode description in a fuche state, so he
doesn't remember anything else they talked about and cannot be
bothered to find out.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
So I did go.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
I did go, and I re listened to what we
talked about, and I scrubbed through very fast because it
is embarrassing, and it's just kind of me trying to
explain because I just finished this book.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
The plot of Isaac Asimov's Foundation.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
Yeah, while suffering from a booster shot, while being totally
incapable of talking, and then Finally, before we go into
who said this.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Episode one, this is a month stoverfest episode. In this episode,
Professor Mouse and the cosmologists lived that Snipe's life.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yes, dude, I'm of far a glowing retrospective, I'm sure
on Blade.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It is also a testament to how much I did
not enjoy Shadow of the Vampire. That we also talked
about that, and I didn't include it in the episode
description even at all.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, no, I think we got a little heated about
that too, because I really like Shadow of the Vampire.
But you know, some podcasters, so I was trying to
ice skate up Hill.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Okay, So to sort of round out the uh the
discussion here, I did some pull quotes. I pulled some quotes,
and these are things that were said on the podcast
that made me laugh as I was scrubbing through episodes today.
I don't have a ton and it's almost immediately obvious
(47:03):
who said each one, but I think it also kind.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Of castures capture something.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
And I threw in some wild cards that were said
by some friends on interruptions, which will also probably be obvious.
So this one both made me laugh for a long
time during the episode and again today when I reheard it.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
So guess who said this?
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I have three different guys on my team with the
initials Jay Williams.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
I think it's important that we are have yet to
talk about football this season, and it speaks too, I
guess our disillusion with the concept the fantasy football. Also,
that's either you or the fiend. I'm gonna say you,
(48:10):
this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Uh, Teddy, who do you think said that?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I have no idea, honestly, no clue.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
This is cause.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
And let me explain the context to you. So this
is the first football episode that we do, and we're
talking about the fantasy draft, and I'm saying I'm saying
it was crazy when we drafted last night because there
was so much stuff that happened in the NFL that
(48:48):
I didn't know about, like, for instance, that the Raiders
are in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
What do you know?
Speaker 5 (48:55):
How checked out you are?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, I had no idea about.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
And then to add to that and to for for
sure one up me you show I drafted so many
people I don't know. And then when I looked at
my team this morning, I got confused because there's three
guys on my roster and all of them are Jay Williams, amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Wow. It really does show a growth though, because from
your starting point in fantasy football to now, you know,
a deeper understanding has been had.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, I understand it. I made peace with it, and
I stopped doing it.
Speaker 7 (49:35):
Yeah, and I think by like by the end of
your sort of fantasy run, you were able to disaggregate
all the Jay Williams, Yes, this this next quote, I mean,
this is.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Just so obvious.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
The story of elden Ring, as I understand it is
there are various spoopy castles that you go into and
you fight a bunch of ghouls and goblins and demons
and roly polleys and frogs and all kinds of crazy shit.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
That's gotta because.
Speaker 5 (50:18):
No, I think that is Professor Mouse trying to explain
Elden Ring to me.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
I proceeded this by saying, I don't know what the
fuck that game was about, and if I'm keeping it real,
at the exact same moment with everybody in this room,
this is what I think it's about. And mind you,
I checked the PlayStation data and I've spent one hundred
and fifty hours playing that game, and I still kind
(50:48):
of don't know what the story is, and that episode
is entitled Elden Lord because I had just beaten the
game and became like the Elden Lord, and I had
no idea what that meant. After I finished it and
beat the last boss, I was kind of like confused.
And that was in no small part because I skipped
(51:11):
through every single cut scene and I didn't talk to
any like.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
NBC, and it was a whole thing of just me
not understanding video games.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
Yeah, the cornerstones of our podcast is your allergy to
cut scenes and being told what to do in a
video game.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, don't tell me what to do.
Speaker 5 (51:36):
The first left turn. I can to fight the first
bear I can find, and fuck your rules?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, where are the bears at in this game? Next
quote with your beef waterloo? Did it come with a
basteel day salad which is just a head of lettuce?
Speaker 5 (51:56):
That's that's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Teddy's so stupid.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
And as now you're laughing, you laughed back then when
you made this joke.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Look, I can say this with all the love in
my heart. You all know what you signed up for
when you invited me again. The whole discussion as to
this show, you asked me, Hey, can you pun out
something better than this? And I was like, nah, I
think you got it.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
I did follow up and say potatoes au guillotine.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Nice, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
You know at that point was yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
At that point. I was still trying to like engage
with the button making.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, sometimes you can fry yourself out a little.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
And then I guess this is an honorable mention.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
But this is this is just a wild story that
I came across that I'd totally forgotten about.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
So this is the quote.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
I start reading the text message, bro, and the text
message is like, hey, I know we haven't been together
in a while, but you were the last person I
was with and I'm pretty sure the baby's yours.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Oh that is a story only the Fiend could tell.
I think.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
It is the Fiend indeed, And he was talking about
this was like ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
So this was kind of like, I don't know if
your phones.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Are currently blowing up constantly with spam of like we're recruiting,
do you want to sell your house? Like all this
like nonsense. This was like ten years ago, and he
was pretty convinced that this was potentially true and was
(54:00):
only cued into the fact that it was a scam
because the person referred to him as Derek, which is
not his name, and so you know, you can kind
of narrow it down from there what his real name is.
But that also it wasn't a scam, it was a
wrong number, which is even more terrified.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Oh no, whoa.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
Um.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
The Fiend also said.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
When we were reminiscing about why we were friends, and
this was a very early episode of interruptions, if not
maybe the first one, he was talking to me and
he said, let's be best friends because both our friends
do crack now, which is a real thing that happened,
is a real reason why we became friends.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Our mutual friends linked us up.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
And then over time tho mutual friends stop being our
friends because of the horrors of drug addiction that are
inhering in a lot of our cities.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
That was just a really weird, dark thing from early
on in this show.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
My friendship with the Fiend is based on our originally
mutual love for Kirk and Spock.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah, I mean imagine us in that environment being like,
you know, what we're really interested in is like space
and like and monsters and shit. Like we're not trying
to do hard drugs.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
But yeah, So any final thoughts, clean hour, just retrospective
talking about this show and the weird things that we
talk about and what it means to us.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
I'm for to another hundred and one hundred for me
and three hundred from all of us.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah, here's to another nine years of accidentally unpacking trauma
and self discovery through the lens of complaining about bad television,
I guess, and finding good television.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
Finding good television it's fun, you know, and all of
those different types of I don't want to foreclose any
of the stuff that we consider doing in the past.
I just know it's gonna take so long, and it's
gonna be it's gonna move at a snail's pace, like
(56:39):
we had talked about doing like some kind of serialized
like like narrative podcast arc where we like sat down
and wrote something. And there is I think a compulsion
among all three of us to want to do creative stuff,
and that has been stifled by the demands of capitalism.
(57:03):
And I think it would be a disservice to us
as people if we did not do those things.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
But I also like the pressure.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
The time pressure is real, and I think that we
were like we were, I mean, because you and I
would be doing those sketches and they were fun and
I love them and I miss them.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
But we would be doing Google.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Doc furious typing, random editing bullshit five minutes before we
recorded and being like, oh god, this this is gonna
have to be a short one because the.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Fucking Yeah, like I remember doing these on the bus
on the way back from like a substitute teaching gig
in another country. Yeah, yeah, it's not try to squeeze
it in. So yeah, I mean, and I absolutely agree
we're all compelled to do some sort of creative outlet.
Sometimes show becomes a launching pad or a reflecting pool
(58:04):
to talk about other creative outlets that we have, which
I think is wonderful. And yeah, I'm I'm so grateful
that we have this as a way to keep us
tied in and tied together as we you know, our
lives expand and grow, and it's you know, I'm looking
forward to as much or as little as Munchie wants
(58:29):
to be involved. Ye, seeing the growth there and what
your creative endeavors look like as a parent, that's one that's.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Great, Yeah, for sure. And Munchie has appeared on this episode.
Speaker 5 (58:42):
Okay, start writing up Munchi's talents.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
True, Yeah, Munkey's tally's going to grow exponentially because she
is now saying words that we now are sure correspond
to the thing she's talking about, whereas before we were
still kind of like, I don't know about this.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yeah, we just we just saw you all in person,
and Mall was talking to me about the month. She's
got the call and response thing down really well. Of
you know, early baby talk is about getting the cadence
of conversation down, whether or not the words make any
sense of like him pausing for a response, and you know,
the give and the take, and so you know, podcast
(59:24):
conversations are a great practice field for that too.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Her favorite word, and this is most toddler's favorite word
because their parents say it to them.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
So often, is no.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
And there's also such a weird antagonism that I have
with my daughter, who is constantly fighting with me because
I'm the disciplinary parent.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
I like, I like never let her do what she
wants to do, as.
Speaker 5 (59:54):
Which, to be clear, is electrocute her self in an outlet.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
Yes, yes, so she and I just and I was
telling you that day.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
She and I spend.
Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Entire days just just like arguing with each other. She
she just looks, She just stares me directly in the
face and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Goes no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
As she is trying to drink toilet water, and I'm like,
you shouldn't do that, like not even not even coming
in strong enough being like this is a bad idea
on many levels.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
She's just like, don't you dare stop me?
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
See that? First of all cute. Second of all, my
reaction of that sounds adorable. Means that I probably would
not be a very strict parent. I would not I
would be walked over so easy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
No, yeah, it is like, yeah, it is is that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
But this is great. I love the show and I
just love talking to buds. It's so fun. You'll probably
record another one in a couple of minutes. That'll do
it for this episode of It's just bad. We'll see
in the next one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Bye.
Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
It's just an ad. It's like, oh, pirates bort your brain,
Robin Nala is no joking opening your mind with the
probusts as you woke in hit Hydra halen Hares had
for a time for a head of reasons for more
than with the soldiers, with them for all seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Listen closely while.
Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
We share our expert teas and cust like comics culture,
deem streetuition to the multiversity als. It'syco teaching, perfect balance.
When we snap in benit gens into your ears, just
the shoulders when we speak Purple men versuasive speech were
Randy savagdreads their mortal technique
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Burden
The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.