ep. 214: did DAVID LYNCH stink?

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but she will be back, soing you trust me doing
a rund table and the great David Lynch or is
he as great as people say, because based on a
lot of the live chat, based on some of the reviews,
very very mixed response. I'm a David Lynch fan, massive
Twin Pigs fan. But that's the fun thing about these

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round tables. You get to hear everybody's opinion, even though
I tend to stop listening once I've stopped talking. But anyway,
I'm joined today by the great Christian Blood, the Lovely
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(05:04):
guest we're about to bring on, he was called elephant
Man and people seen the sides of his penis at
the urinal Christian, how are you doing today? I am
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(05:28):
talk about doing this guy was up all night, dun
your mom the great Liam Limb. You're muted, and how
you doing today?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I am an animal and not a man.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And you want to talk about twin peaks? She has
them covered up, but we will talk about them soon.
It's what's your name again? Killy from the Wood?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah? From Once Over with Kiley? And who are these podcasts?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Hello? There you go? Hi, everybody. My foot's fucking killing me.
So what we're doing here today is a rhynd table
to discover if David Lynch stinks. But before we get
to that, there is a lady here. We're not going
to say anything Saxis Tour until we hit the hilarious

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Speaker 5 (06:21):
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Speaker 1 (06:24):
And the other drops. But we're not gonna say anything
until we get to that moment.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
I still got a lot of come in my balls.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm glad you reinvented the bit. So it's sixty one
dollars because that's such a funnier number than sixty nine.
Here sare I appreciate that? Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Then I say sixty one that well, I would do
sixty one. The YouTube nazis will take their cut and
I'll get fucked over once again. But I want to
start off fifth day because we asked the name of
the episode is the David Lynch Stink, And we'll start
with the laym on this one. There's a lot of
people that say that he's that David Lynch is weird

(07:05):
for the sake of weird, and then and then with
the excuse, Oh, if you don't get it, you're just
not intellectual enough, you know what I'm fucking saying, Solen,
What's what's your take on that opinion? Baby?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
So you're asking me to justify that you feel that
you're not dumb, it's just that everybody else is pretentious?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Fuck you.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
The answer is actually the answer that and I'll do
it quickly, is uh, David Lynch, I don't think it's weird.
I think his stuff is very surreal, and I think
it kind of reaches for different parts of the brain
than a lot of than a lot of film does.
And if you want to see him doing it, uh,
there's there's a there's a movie called The Straight Story

(07:54):
that is just him straightforwardly telling the story a true
story of a man who rides a tractor visit his
dying brother because he's not allowed to drive anymore because
he's too old, And it's told in a straightforward story.
The guy's name is Richard Straight that's his real name.
So the straight story is like a ah, I'm David
Lynch doing a straight story. But there's a lot of

(08:16):
really nice little surrealist touches around the fringes. And his
brother's played by the Great Harry Dean Stanton, who's a
fucking weirdo. So I think it's I think it's all
sincere on David Lynch's part.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
How many black people are in.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
It the same amount that are in tweeting peaks oh
sixty nine?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
He killy, What do you think of the criticism of
David Lynch's artistic or is he a hack?

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I have never understood the criticism of him. I honestly
think that people who don't get it are stupid, and
maybe that sounds pretentious of me. I think that regardless
of if you understand every single thing that's going on
in his movies. Actually, if you claim to understand everything
that's going on in his movies, you're a fucking liar,
so stop being dumb. But you don't have to understand

(09:06):
everything that's going on in his films to understand how
beautiful and stunning they are. His color palettes are amazing,
his choices are really interesting, his surrealism is outstanding. And
I think, as Liam just said, the Straight Story is
a perfect example of how talented he is doing a
Disney film when he is so known for being such

(09:27):
a whackado.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Christian Well, I think that, you know, when the idea
that he does weird for the sake of being weird,
I think that that's outside of his filmography. That's you know,
for years, like more than a decade on YouTube, he
would post a video of him giving the weather every day,
and he would make plans around making sure he could

(09:52):
do it. To me, that's weird for the sake of
being weird. I think that his film is really an
expression of the ideas he has. But some of those
ideas are a little weird, but it's not for the
sake of like, you know, it'd be crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I know in the near future we're going to speak
with another great AUTR M Night Shyamalan. I think he
will go out of his way to be like, you know,
what would be really weird and unexpected is if all
the actors deliver Wooden monologues that they seem like they're
reading for the first time. So I know that's not
this episode. But I think that David Lynch's movies are

(10:29):
weird because he is a weird guy. But it's not
because he's trying to trying to make us feel like
David Lynch's a little bit of an odd bird, isn't he.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
But I'm gonna say that at some point I'm going
to use the term greatest of all time during this episode,
and it's not when it comes to racial commentary. I
mean in a complimentary way. But we will start with
a raiser head in infamous taine Shacks comedy, Christian, what

(11:01):
is your opinion on a reis your head? Baby? Tell
me just to should confirm how Christian is a wul
Hollywood liberal. His wallpaper is a vimon about the essay
a woman enjoy.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yes, right, but it's okay because it's twenty twenty five
and everything's back on the table, and I do mean everything.
Usually it's a it's a different world from the last
time I was on your show. So sex is where
it's hat.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
By the way, usually he just gave you permissions, so
it's no longer.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, that's right, exactly, that's what waiting for. Bring that
uncovered foot over here, and let's.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
See it's all on the table, baby, So we'll hold
him back.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
For Christian.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I saw a racer Head quite some time ago in
the probably the perfect format for a VHS, and I
thought about rewatching it for the sake of this and decided, no, No,
I like my feeling of it, because you know, you
see that. And I had already seen Revelvet by this point,
and certainly Dune, and I was like, all right, let's

(12:07):
see what this is. And I don't. I don't think
even if the three of you had given me a
pep talk before I watched it, would I have been
really prepared for it. But I think that this movie
is weird because that's what was in his head. And
I think he gets less weird with maybe a little
bit more money, But yeah, I still don't. You know,

(12:29):
there's those movies that you walk out of or you
stop watching you're like, oh, I need a little bit
of time to think about Reservoir Dogs famously as one
that I'm like, I need a couple of days to
think about if I like that, and it turns out
I did. This is what I'm still not sure, but boys,
it's something to look at.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, I mean, I'll just say like that was also
David Lynch going straight from the Philadelphia School of Art
to like the best graduate school for filmmaking in the world,
you know, according to most people. And you know that
was also. I love the story that he was told

(13:04):
you're not allowed to make a feature length film for
your graduate thesis. This is just strictly short films. And
he took the money that he raised and made a
feature film anyway, and he made a Rasorhead exactly the
way he wanted to make it, and that's what got
him hired by mel Brooks to make his next movie. Right, So, like,
I just love the maverickness of it all. And it's

(13:27):
not like to me again, speaking to what we were
just talking about, that's not a guy's like necessarily being
weird for the sake of weird, but just a guy
who went to art school and kind of learned to
make these really fucking scary short films if you ever
seek them out, and in fact, if you would, like Hughes,
I can send you a link to a burn of
the DVD of his short films from before he was famous.

(13:49):
Just very interesting. But anyway, so it's not like that
was just him writing this surrealist wave out of art
school more than anything.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Just to add to about the short films, a lot
of theaters are now with his recent passing, are actually
showing those in theater. So if you have not seen
those short films, they are incredible and might be at
a theater near you.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, I'll probably watch those short films if they make
the YouTube on the big screen of my home cinema.
But killy, what did you think of Erase Your Head?

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah? I had a very similar experience to Christian, So
I had seen a very large amount of Lynch films
before I finally got around to Eraserhead. And all of
my friends, all like my metal head friends, were like, dude,
this movie fucking rules. This shit's so cool, like it's
gonna blow your mind. And I watched it and I

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was like, I don't know what I'm watching and I
feel uncomfortable. And I watched it also on a VHS
on a little teeny tiny TV that I was curled
up in a ball sitting close to like this, and
I was my mind got wiped, like I felt that
it was not even intentional. I felt like my mind
was erased. The thing that I think about the most

(15:04):
with this film is that maybe ten years after I
first saw it, my first ex husband he filmed in
our bathtub a piece of hair that was moving around
because water was dripping, and so like water was dripping
on this piece of hair, and so the hair was
kind of like jumping back and forth. And for some
reason I have added that into eraser Head in my mind,

(15:26):
But that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So does the divorce off to hear him when he was.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Filament, Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
But for me, I remember seeing the rasta head for
the first time when I accidentally taking a bunch of
acxisy in the night and when I had come home
and I was coming down and watching it on TV,
and it freaked the fuck out of me, to the
point that I genuinely can't look at chickens when they're

(15:53):
being sliced because of that thing. Basically, Erasia Hair is
basic is frank. It's a story about I's afraid of
being a parent and not done not to be vulgar, rude,
but getting some fucking horror pregnant because your family are weird,
and then then you can't do all types of weird
shit with your hair. Typical story. I did like the

(16:15):
Arnold Schwarzenegger remake from ninety six when he really went
to town on getting some justice, which is what should
have happened, and Rich a hit. But I do think
this is a perfect example of that sort of box
up the criticism that it's weird for the sake of weird,
but I wasn't and I don't think I'll ever watch
it again. Unlike Fast and Furious six.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Dude, nothing prepares you for the first time you see Eraserhead.
And I had read about it in a review in
the magazine Fantasy and Science Fiction, and then I also
watched it on VHS and wow, it uh just nothing
had prepared my thirteen year old mind for Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, we then moved on to three years later, the
ugliest fucking cunt that ever lived, a guy called John.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'm right here, Please don't insult me to my face.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Let another steak out on another podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh that's going to be a good But enough about
Rusie o'donald, the star of Another Steak Hey, that's fucking
woman gross.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
So what was it?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, you'll see that's one of my David Lynch things.
I know, it makes sense. You can't say it's not funny.
I means it's above your pay grade.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Liam, you and I didn't go to the right film
school to understand what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I'm as gay as it gets.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
We then get to nineteen eighties infamous The Elephant Man.
We're gonna start with Kelly on this one because diversity.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yes, yes, this is another one that I saw on VHS.
I think probably before I saw Eraserhead, and I had
a very emotional connection to it, but I couldn't identify why.
And I saw it young enough where my little brain
was like, I don't understand, actually what's happening. I remember

(18:26):
feeling like it was so beautiful, but again it's still
it wasn't fully connecting with me, and I think Liam
did a good job of explaining, you know, when you're
coming out of this very prestigious film school, this is
kind of your progression into becoming a little bit more palatable.
So it makes sense that this comes right after Eraserhead.

(18:46):
I have revisited Elephant Man one time, and I enjoyed
it just as much, but I still came out of
it being like, I'm never gonna watch this ever again.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, like it's sad, Like I'll go there's there's a
it's a hilarious film called The Twelve Year Slive. I
want to sit here and spout about black people.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm gonna have to leave where it's it's like yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Where it's a super intense and dark and it's really dramatic.
But at the same time, Miss Keeley says, like why
would I watch this again? Like not that it's bad,
it's like like why would you have? God, I had
a hard day of a extra long shift and the
car broke down and I'm gonna fell like attacks for him.

(19:38):
I think it'll relax by watching The Elephant Man. It's like, no,
I'll watch Happy Gilmour for the fifty seventh time because
shooting McGovern was the real victim and that story it's
terrible what they did to him, and I called me
for the sequel. But with The Elephant Man, it's I
don't know, It's like I didn't understand the start of it,

(19:59):
but he was trying to to say with the Elephant essay,
the woman because he loves essay and his films. David Lynch,
Sure he does. Yeah, I think that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Think about how much better Happy Gilmour would be with
a little essay right in the middle.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
That it would be funny if shooting McGavin grab her
and he got the golf club and he goes, I'll
put a hole in one and stuff like that, and
then Sander gets I'll get my revenge, and then it
talks him with the subway. What a great film, Hobby
Gilmore too is gonna be I come in, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I just.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, no, no no, which we should definitely have this paddle
do it? I spit on your grave the original and
the remake.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
We should.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I'm in and you always I.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Am Adam Sandler's dick.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Halfway through, Yeah, I want to say one more thing
about Elephant Man. The I remember very distinctively the first
time that I watched this, I had become a complete
obsessed with Todd Brownian's freaks, and I remember being like, oh,
this is just freaks, but way weirder.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, English, which means he's you know, Christian. What did
you think of the Elephant mom without big penis ears?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Right exactly, that is what I call it. But the
this is I was thinking about how I first saw
this movie long before I knew who David Lynch was.
And there are many movies that I watched in the
living room with my parents on HBO that probably I
would never show to my kids. High and Tight Loves
essays and movies. I appreciate that High and Tight and

(21:40):
I remember watching it, and you know, it's like, this
is how I have any understanding of who the elephant
that was, you know, because I, you know, hadn't heard
any of the Howard Stern bits yet. So I mean,
and I was far too young to have seen this,
but it's not like, you know, it's not like seeing
I spit on your grave. Far too young, and I

(22:01):
don't know. I think it's it's so many emotions that
I'm thinking, like as a kid, I'm like, I don't
know how I processed any of it. Honestly, I probably didn't.
I probably just stuffed it down. But I think it
is what Kayley said, it's beautiful, it's heartbreaking, and you
understand that. Oh maybe just because my parents are watching
a movie in the living room doesn't mean I shouldn't
go and play video games in my room, you know,

(22:23):
I just you know, I saw Sophie's choice the same way.
You know, I don't always need to sit there in
the living room with my parents watching whatever movies on.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Liam, What did you think of a superhero film at
the Alpha Man?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Again, this was this was a mel Brooks film. This
was a Brooks film, right, and so.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It definitely funnier than Dracula Dad and loving it.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, I'm not wrong. I always find it funny that
his two big discoveries were David Lynch and David Cronenberg.
And I, you know, like that just kind of I
think if you ever wonder what goes on inside the
mind of a funny person, watch the movie Crash. That's
about it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
But anyway, back to the Elpha Man. I very confused
memories of it because when I was a kid around
the same around literally around the same time, my parents
rented The Elephant Man, but also my friend's mom rented Mask,
which similar stories starring Eric Stoltson's Cher. So and I'm

(23:34):
not kidding, I get those two movies completely mixed up
in my mind. Now, I will say, you know, I
bought the Elephant Man the Criterion, because, as we mentioned,
you have to be a little bit pretentious to like
David Lynch. It was not my first exposure to him

(23:54):
because in New York growing up, Doune played on Channel
eleven relatively frequently. So actually, I didn't know that that
was a David Lynch movie at the time, but you
definitely recognize the sensibility. But I just remember that and
then seeing Eraserhead and then seeing Elephant Man. I didn't

(24:19):
understand that there wasn't a big mainstream world of weirdos
making films like that, and I really love just the
atmosphere of it. I really love the fact that, you know,
he kind of went for it in that movie in
a way that mainstream hits just don't go for it,
you know. And it's hard to explain, but it's just

(24:39):
sometimes down to what I really like about David Lynch,
which is the fucking weirdness of his editing dialogue and
how he likes to let a lot of space in between,
like sometimes, especially in his later movies, you just watch
someone sit there for six, like thirty seconds or sixty
seconds before they respond to something that's been said, and
there's a little a little bit of that in The

(25:02):
Elephant Man if you watch it, and the weird pacing,
the kind of offbeat angles sometimes, the moody atmosphere, the
fact that it was in black and white, which I
didn't realize as a kid, like how rare it was
to be allowed in a studio movie to do that,
like with a real budget.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I really Victorian times were in black and white.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, no, they were just in white. That's why you
usually oh wow all times. But no, But just to
Liam's point, just to jump in when I would.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
See one second or in the case of The Inbred Royalty,
extremely white, Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
When I would see black and white movies, I would
always assume, oh, they are from a really long time ago,
especially the subject and the timeframe for The Elepha Man.
So I thought this was a much older movie when
I saw it, it was probably you know, three years old.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, when I was a kid, I had no concept.
If it was black and white, then it was super old,
and if it was color, then it was super new, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
This must have been part of a really yeah, this
must have been part of a really weird twin bill
with It's a Wonderful Life.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I mean this is also like post Blazing Saddles, post
Young Frankenstein. Mel Brooks as a producer who I found
out much later was literally telling the studio to go
fuck themselves whenever they gave him a note. Like he
really shielded David Lynch in his choices in a way
that like no first time like a real studio filmmaker

(26:26):
ever gets. And you see that on the screen. Also
you shay that.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
But Michael Bay made a Pin and Gain right after
you made Transformers three. Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I mean at that point he was able to tell
the studio go fuck themselves, and so he made a
really personal art film.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, really good.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Usually knows I love Pain and Gains, So I would
not stand for this, not because I think it's great,
but because I thought it was a fun romp.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
But he's the question, what do you think is to
realize the chances of Elephant mon being remade?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Why would you remake it? Why?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Why do they keep casting Ammy Schumer to do comedy?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, I think you've just come up with the two
solutions here. Why not put Amy Schumer in as the elephant?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't think Amy Schumer's been in anything in six years, like, no.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
She's got a Netflix movie that I.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Netflix movie was she bravely gained weed for the role,
which I'm sure happened before she was cast. Instead of
being quickly we need to get her a script awoid,
we had games so that it looks like she's not
about bitch.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well. I remember Bradley Cooper was in a stage version
of The Elephant Man somewhere in the last decade, and
I was actually wondering. I'm like, Okay, are they going
to come up with a reason to do this as
a film, But I think I'm glad that they haven't,
but they probably will at some point.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
In twenty twenty four, one of my favorite movies of
the year was A Different Man, which of course is
not at all the same as The Elephant Man, but
somewhat similar subject matter. And I think that having conversations
similar to what happens in The Elephant Man are becoming
more popular, so it's possible, but I would hope that
it doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
So you want to type coss Sebastian Stan.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yes, and that would see more of his penis.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yes, that is disgusting and vulgar.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Think you mean, why in the why in the year
twenty oh she took it up the ys? What why
in the year twenty twenty four of Our Lord and Savior?
Are we having more biopics of Bob Dylan come out?
Like what? Who knew there'd be a market for like
an insatiable market for just endless Bob Dylan movies?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Right, I can tell you why one nobody wanted to
say the first one? Oh and too. Timothy Chamlay seems
like a box office star because he was in the
remake of the next David Lynch film. We're gonna mention
here during nineteen eighty four, the year that WrestleMania started,

(29:07):
the year that's born in the Essay kim Out, the
year the Purple Rain kim Out, and the shim year
that the Hitchman was born. What do you think about that?
White people?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yes, you are?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
You are?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
First of all, I didn't hear what Christian said, but
I'll spring anything I want to on your being.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Hah things to say when you come.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
So killy? What did you think of David Lynch's done?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
I love this movie. I love this movie so much.
I know, I know, don't make faces at me as
I'm saying words I think it's great. I think that
this is for me, the correct type of weird that
I want him to be doing. It is it is
obviously extremely, extremely different than Elephant Man and eraseer Head

(29:59):
does it almost does not compute. I love the feeling
of the movie. I love how wacky it is. Every
time I rewatch it, I feel like I got something
new from it. I just I can't. I can't say
enough good things probably about all versions of Doune, honestly.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Well, my thought is that it's my favorite version of
Doune because, unlike the Denny Venue Part one, I stayed
awake for the nineteen eighty four one, and I'm like
part two. I've actually seen this one. I can't bring
myself to see the second tone.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Are you sure the falling asleep isn't just a function
of being sixty now?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
No, I just I just turned forty nine. Thank you
for the birthday wishes. And you know it was and
it was at the time where you know, we watched
all of our movies at home because because the Irish
engineered the pandemic. But I could not have been less
excited and interested by that dude. And I remember seeing

(31:01):
this as a kid, and it's the same thing, like
this is just a wild movie, and you know it's
like you watch it now and you're like, oh yeah,
I mean like picking Kyle MacLaughlin, this is the first
thing ever. It's like, it's amazing that you found this guy.
And he goes on to you know, be so phenomenal
on so many other things.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
But it's great.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You get well, I mean, please, high and Tight in
the chat says that Dune's greater than Star Wars. It
depends on which Star Wars you're talking about and which Dune.
Is Dune nineteen eighty four better than the last Jedi
one hundred percent, So I'm not going to lose that fight.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
To me. Actually, what's ironic about bringing that up is,
you know, David Lynch was actually offered to direct Empire
and then return to the Jedi, like George Lucas wanted
him to direct Star Wars in the worst way, and
I think that's how he would have pulled it off. Yeah,
when you look at Dune, because you know, do like,
especially the early to mid eighties, Star Wars had the

(32:04):
movie industry fucked up, so there were all these great
weirdo space opera movie. It was just an era of
like really great weird, offbeat movies that nobody liked, like Dune,
but also Remo Williams The Adventure Begins, the Adventures of
Bukaroo Bonzai across the fucking whatever. I'm sorting a little tired,

(32:28):
you know, Ice Pirates. I mean, like the list of
like great epic failed sci fi just go literally goes
on and on, and I think Dune is the best
of them. I can't imagine when I watched Dune, which
I do every few years, I can't imagine how that

(32:48):
would have applied to Star Wars, even with George Lucas
and his like weird control freak tendencies, because it would
have like all of that shit that you see on
the screen there, which again is not a mass crowd pleaser.
It is David Lynch applying his sensibilities to something that
a studio thinks at once. That would have just escaped

(33:11):
through through every corner of Empire strikes Back, and it
would have it would have not been it would have
not been a huge hit. In my personal opinion, I.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Would love to have seen him direct returning the Jedi,
because we would have gotten at least sixty minutes of
just Job of the Hut and Carrie Fisher in the
metal bikini, and I think that would have been worth
the price of admission, Lamb.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I think again, you're thinking of David Unburg. Yeah, and
his wound fucking movie.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
I would have I would have liked to see Cronenberg
doing Job of the Hut like that would have been
an interesting I would like to see how that would
have existed in the universe.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
And if anyone's wonder my Liamb's so tired, it's because well,
as you can see, he was up all last night
fighting King Cooper. But the one thing I'm.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Gonna say about I was up all night going born
in easter Lane.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
They just announced The Fast eleven will be filmed in
the East Ala, so fingers crossed the name you might
get to meet Tyrese Gibson.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Look, I just can't wait to get the finally the
conclusion of the saga of family and fast cars.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Say that this guy gets it. But I'm also gonna
say about it, durn I remember the Sting was in it,
and that was really weird because he was he was
like massively popular at the time, and then well what's
the name of that? That is Vanessa Madson, Virginia mad
Virginia Madsen who did that stupid intro where she actually

(34:47):
left and came back on screen or another thing. And
it's like, this is I'm not a fan of Durn
at all. And the good thing about the the remix
is the in the Shack and one. You get to
see Jay Donna getting bind in the tenth So there
you go. We ever wanted to shoot it, look like

(35:09):
with Bob Dylan fucked mayby Jean. It's available now on
Blu Ray Can I can I.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Just jump in and say the great thing about Sting
being in Dune and it is like he was this massive,
massive star at the time and he, like a lot
of musicians, he parlayed that into being a movie star.
But he parlayed it in the Stirrings like really weird
science fiction movies. And the other one I really love
is The Bride, which was like the remake of the

(35:36):
Bride of Frankenstein. I think it was with Warwick Davis.
Am I wrong about that?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You just said one of Hughesy's trigger words. Let's not
talk about Warwick Davis. We should move on.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Man, well, then, how can we talk about Star Wars
without talking about the great Warwick Davis.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
He has to know Ewok policy on this show, That's
all right.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Speaking of Star Wars, he said that Georgeucas wanted David
Lynch to direct it in the worst way, which is
ironic because J. J. Abrams actually dead dude, in the
worst way.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
So I think wish I think you're meant to say
Ryan Johnson, Ryan Johnson is.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
A really nice guy.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I will I will go to I will say that
Ryan Johnson gets a pass because I like those knives
eyed films.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
And Rise of Skywalker was so bad that I've never
rewatched it. But holy fuck, does Last Jedis think of ship?
Ryan Johnson? You must Rethard.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
We just talked about it was the nice guy, didn't
you hear?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Kim? Have you ever seen the movie Brick?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, that was that was That was Joseph Gordon Levitt
before he was trendy.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, I can tell you can count them. One thing.
I'm never gonna watch Last Jedi again in my life.
In nineteen eighty six, we came to Christian's Wallpaper, hilarious,
romantic comedy a blue velvet, So Christian, why don't you

(37:12):
go ahead and start us with your tick on blue velvet.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
My appreciation for blue velvet starts in an unlikely place
on a Oh Jesus in a nineteen eighty seven Saturday
Night Live sketch when Dennis Hopper guest hosted and it
was called What's that Smell? With Frank Booth as the
host of a fake talk show? I don't know, I
mean a fake game show. You might be able to
find it. I never know what's out there. And I

(37:37):
was like, I'm like, I don't get this at all.
I really need to try and figure out what this
is all about. And so then I go and see
the movie. Well, get the movie on VHS. There's so
many of these, and I was just blown away because
it's like, you know, there are times where it does
feel like a traditional movie, but it veers off into
some really interesting things. I love Dennis Hopper in this movie,

(37:58):
but the unsung here was Dean Stockwell. I think. So,
I think we get tremendous performances from people who were
certainly past their prime in nineteen eighty six, but just
you know, showing what they.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Could still do.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
And there's touches of humor in there, like the radio
station jingles and stuff to play in the beginning, you know,
for the radio station being w old wood as the
lumberjacks are cutting down trees. Just dumb little things like that.
And that's what I kind of love about David Lynch's
as little touches that it's like, I'm putting this in
for me. I don't care if anyone thinks that this

(38:33):
is good. And I don't know when we when we
finally go through his filmography. I think that's kind of
the way it ends, that he's just doing, like in
an empire, only for himself. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
It's funny about blue Velvet and the SNL sketch and
just no oh took it up no by the way
in Ireland. And if you don't know, rape is when
you have sex sober. That's why he's making so many

(39:09):
jokes about it. It's like I didn't know as a kid,
you know, when I was young that movie was not
a hit.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
No, No, people who saw.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
It were the people who wrote and did television and movies,
and they're the ones that talked about it a lot.
And my friends when I was a little bit older
who were really into weird shit, or then when I
became a comedian who just watched everything, they all knew
about it. So it wasn't until I really started paying
attention that I realized, like, oh no, no, people didn't
like Blue Velvet, which is interesting to me because it's

(39:43):
basically it feels like a movie version of Twin Peaks.
It's got all the same elements, it's got the same pacing.
Laura Dern plays a very kind of like innocent you know,
what do you call it? Roll? Laura Palmer, Oh yeah,
you know you were close and she's just sitting in

(40:05):
that car outside. Well, cal McLaughlin's like watching Isabella Rosselyne.
He get mauled. I mean, it's it's it's it's such
a fucking great turning inside out of Americana and tropes,
and uh, you know, it's absolutely weird that the one,
the one became a massive pop culture touchdown and the

(40:27):
other was just a flop.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
You know, there's actually I've actually got a Frank booth
am I from deleted shame here with what he said
that Isabella Roth whatever the fucking name was Fox, that weird, weird,
weird thing to shaw you, what did you think of
Blue Velvet? Killy?

Speaker 4 (40:48):
So this was actually the first Lynch film that I
ever saw. This was I was very young, maybe like
ten ish years old, and I was kind of starting
to get into movies. My mom had showed me stand
by Me, which was like the first time where I
was like, whoah, movies are cool. But neither of my
parents were big movie people. For some reason, my mom

(41:08):
had seen Blue Velvet and had liked Blue Velvet, and
she said, do you want to watch this movie? And
I said, what you know, is it a new movie,
because as a ten year old, you don't want to
watch anything old. And she was like, no, it's an
older movie. She said, but it's about a guy who
gets his ear cut off and has to find it
in a field. And I was like, well that sounds
really weird. And so to me this was a horror movie.

(41:31):
I was going into a horror movie when I was
coming into Blue Velvet, and I was way too young
to watch it, and watching it with your mother when
you're way too young was not fun at all, but
I was. This was one where I was completely absorbed.
And again, I think it has I think Liam is
exactly correct. It has so many of the same beats
that Twin Peaks have has And that was kind of

(41:54):
where I developed my love for both Twin Peaks and
Blue Velvet, is that I felt like I was in
this storytelling that existed in this universe that I kind
of wanted to be absorbed into myself, and it was.
It was just completely mind boggling experience. I don't think
I understood anything about the movie, but I knew I
wanted to keep watching it again and again and again,

(42:15):
and I did. I've watched that movie probably forty times.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
At least I still a lot of come in my balls.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
At least as a girl watching with your mom, you
don't have to hide your boner.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, yeah, see, I thought you were gonna say your
mom decided you should watch it because you enjoyed the
Liz Taylor Mickey Rooney National Velvet and also Elvis's Blue Hawaii,
so she figured like, hey, you're gonna just love this one.
It's been basically a mashup of the two.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
This was such a weird movie. Again because neither of
my parents liked movies, so I just have no idea
what had possessed her to see this, and then what
had possessed her to suggest it to a ten year old.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, there's a great quote floating around after David Lynch died,
and I wish I coul remember who. Christian probably knows
who said it, but this person said, Quentin Tarantino was
interested in the guy cutting off the ear, and David
Lynch is interested in the ear. And I think that's
like just such a great way of summing it up.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
You know, I'm I'm actually very annoyed at myself right
now because I fucked up the jew because I said
that Liam was up all night last night bottling King
Cooper and Dennis Hopper actually played King Cooper in the
Mayu Brothers film, So that should have been my segue.
I'm a disgrace and I'm going to do something harmful.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I do look like Bob Hoskins some super Mario.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, I actually thought that you were actually still in
rehearsals for the Touring Company of the Life Aquatic with
Steve dc Sue the Great Bill Murray film.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Oh Yeah, yeah, but no, I chopped the beard off
last night.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, but I think that.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
As the Ladies by the way. So you're welcome, Ladies.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Thank you on behalf of ladies. What if what if
under the finger? What if the beard was the power
of sleep and now you'll never sleep again?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Well, that sounds like a David Lynch short that that
might be out there.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
That sounds like a good idea of a hilarious comment.
How was it?

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I got two hours sleep last night and usually looks
way more exhausted than I do. That's the I.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Haven't been outside in days. So plus I love cocaine.
I gotta be honest with you. It's great fun. But
Blue Velvet, I don't know. It's one of those ones
that's kind of dark it. Dafte has more rewatch value
than alfin man or Raise Her Head, But so and
so far, I would say this would be the first

(44:55):
one of his films that I loved, But I don't
think it's I don't think it's perfect at all. But
speaking of perfect, we would get to the first one
on his list that I would say is a five
star classic, and not just because that gave Chris Isaac

(45:15):
one of his many many hit songs. And I'm sure
we get sit here list and all of the numerous
hit songs at Chris Isaac had, There's a Wicked Game,
and many more. I'm sure we could spend ours talking
about all those songs that he's had, but we are
on to nineteen ninety. Brilliant Wild at Heart. I fucking

(45:38):
loved this one. It was definitely the start of Nicholas
Cage's wackier personality show. Yeah, man, And I think he's
brilliant in it. I think the films get that mixture
of creepiness and scariness with a great soundtrack, and it's
unique and its original and it's funny times. Whether it's

(46:01):
supposed to, I don't know, but I absolutely loved Wild
at Heart. Kelly, what did you think of this one?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I spent many years really really really really really extra
hating Nicholas Cage. I'm reformed now. I'm reformed now. So
I will say that the first time that I saw
this movie, I did not get it at all. I
was like, I don't get it. I hate the over
the top, I hate dialing it up to eleven. I
despite the face. The opening is shockingly brutal, and I

(46:33):
love the idea of a Bonnie and Clyde sort of story.
There are so many elements in this movie that I love.
I didn't feel like it fit the mold of what
I want out of David Lynch. I feel like something
that I like about his casting of Laura Dern and
Isabella Rossellini and Kyle McLaughlin is that they all kind
of feel normal. And Nicholas Cage again is so over

(46:56):
the top in this he is Nicholas Caging all over
Nicholas Cage everything. So to me, it's I I almost
want more normalcy in my characters in my really bizarre film.
And so for many years I kind of rated this
pretty low on my scale of David Lynch films, and
it's definitely one of the ones that I revisit the least. However,

(47:18):
as I have watched it now that I am enjoying
Nicholas Cage, I I really like this movie. It is
it's it feels like one of his most normal films,
I guess, even though it's not normal. I don't know.
I like it a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I cow made for your review of A National Treasure
to the book.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That's nice, pretty let's not get distracted, sorry.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
But that's that's fucking good stuff.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
But I thought, I'm sure good I'm sure good.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
No, no, no, it's all about your majesty.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Okay, well great, then in that case, if you like
crazy Nicholas Cage find the criterion of the Rock because
it was made by all The interviews were made back
in the laser disc days when no one thought they'd
ever see like surface again. So Nicholas Cage talks about
his process, and the best is he talks about this

(48:13):
one scene where he walks out of shot weirdly, and
he's like, yeah, you know, I took this from this
Elvis movie, I think Blue Hawaii, and I just really
liked the way he walked across screen, and so I
just stole that walk. And so once like you get
the key to like, well, this is what moves Nicholas
Cage to do what he does.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
You see it in everything, so I and I feel
like he's almost trying to be Elvis in this movie
and Wild at Heart as well. The thing that made
me fall in love, the thing that made me become
a Nick Cage fan and then go back and revisit
a bunch of his filmography was actually her Zog's Bad
Lieutenant Port of Call, New Orleans, and I was like,

(48:53):
there is no way in hell. I hated Nicholas Cage
so much. I was like, there's no way in hell
that Nicholas Cage can be bad Lieutenant in the same
way that Harvey Kaytel was. Harvey Kytel was one of
the most vile characters that had ever been put on screen,
and Nicholas Cage cannot do that. And then he did it,
and he did it so well, and I was like, whoa.
And that was the thing that made me revisit his stuff.

(49:15):
So I watched Wild at Hart again after having that experience,
and that again, I understand now a little bit more
of why his choice is to be over the top
in certain roles.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
You don't think he could lean into a car window,
go or not touch each other.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I think I did not know. I did not I
didn't think that he could do it.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
But I think that Nick Nicholas Cage is like this
cinema equivalent of pro wrestling, and that it seems stupid
to people. But once she get it, you get it
and you go this is actually kind of good. But
it takes that, as Kelly says that that moment to go, Okay,
you got me. But I have to say it would

(50:00):
can what do you call it? A wild at heart?
This was the one of the typical examples that happened
with the treatment of women, and the great Zack Snyder
made so many good films did this and a lot
of his classics as well, were for no reason at all.
The essay is mentioned where it turns out the Laura Dern,

(50:22):
star of Jurassic Park three and Dominion, the really good
sixth one was had been essayed by her dad's friend,
and it's like, we're telling us this for.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Well, they wanted to put a little romance into the film, obviously,
here's I think that's probably why.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
When that to Laura Dern in the Last Jedi also
absolutely not necessary.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Oh yeah, hey, Ryan Wilson mean.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Like a mother fucking yo, stupid cocksucker.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
That's that Clipleam wanted me to play about you.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
By the way, I hope that all the Nicholas Cage
happens outside of consideration for the wicker Man. Kaylee, I
think you can talk about everything except for the Wicked Man.
I know you do. When I saw that, sorry, go ahead,
When I saw this, the only thing I'd ever seen
Nicholas Cagan before was Peggy su got married, and I

(51:19):
didn't even know how much he had done at this point,
so I'm like, oh, and I'd seen Laura Dern and
Blue Velvet, and I think that this would be one
of those sort of the way Kaylee's talking about. I
was not prepared for this movie because it is, you know,
kind of like Blue Velvet films, like Sex Lives and Videotape.
There are all these movies that aren't like huge movies.
But because you watch you know, late night television, you

(51:41):
watch Saturday Night Live, you see things like that, you
think these movies are huge, but they're actually not. And
I think that probably most people have never seen this.
And it's interesting because I was reading about it and
he Lynch had a test greeting of Wild at Heart
and people got so upset. Eighty people walked out of it,
and He's like, now, what do they know? I'm not

(52:01):
going to edit a frame, And then he did another
test screening and one hundred people walked out of it.
So to his credit, he started making some adjustments, and
the Willem Dafoe scene would have been a lot funnier
if he hadn't been trying to deliver an R rating.
He had to because it was going to be rated X.
This is before the days of NC seventeen. I know

(52:23):
you have a whole different rating system over there, Hughesy,
but so he had to make adjustments. But I don't
even know if you would have seen a different version
than we did use it of Wild at Heart.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
It's fun to think about.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I would have. I have to be very honest with you.
I haven't seen Wild at Heart yet. It was part
I bought towards it. Towards the end of the second
year of Lockdown. I'd bought a pile of physical media
because I was like, this thing looks to go another
year or two. And then suddenly I was vaccinating them
back out in the world and haven't really had time

(52:59):
to like sit down and watch all these TV shows
and movies that I own.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
So, yeah, I'm sorry you Liam. You said you you
have been vaccinated.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I haven't vaccinated. I forgot you guys are on the
Carl side of the dabble verse. We don't do that
on the side of these.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Did you see that, uh Brannon tried to apparently tried
to start a fight with Colin's brother and the stupid thing.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I did see that I did see that.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yes, I have so much fomo right now. I literally
almost got in the car and drove there.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yes, really well raised stupid by the way, raise your
hand if you're featured on the lanyard for kill Kevin
that Chad made.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Was never going but I texted him last night because
I saw a picture. Somebody took a picture of the lanyard.
I'm like, Liam Wire, are you on this? You weren't
going to the Atlantic City.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
You know what? I wanted to go to Atlantic City.
I didn't really make plans. And then I watched, or
actually I listened to mostly this the stream of MLC
from Kevin's hotel room, and it's just like thirty drunk
dudes screaming over each other. And I was like, well,
you know, I don't have fomo. I don't. Sorry, but no,

(54:25):
that was what that was.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
When I lost it, I was like, Okay, I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I know I know that you go to I know
you go to Cannibal Corps show, so you're used to it.
But I'm more of as Simon and Garfunkle concert. I
can't really handle it.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I'm gonna say something that's going to get me made
fun off but Ione what I would call photograph fomo
because it'll be fun that made everyone get your picture taking.
But then he's seeing this ship their time though, how
I was just like, I'm okay, stand at home trying
to force interaction.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I'm as gay as it gets, I gotta say. You know,
unlike these podcasts, I don't look for real life scenarios
where fifty people call me fat all day and all night.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
It's nice when it's attached to a super chat it's
not so great when it's just screamed in my ear
by rating you three in the morning.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
That's why you didn't want to go to Muscle Beach
with me last weekend.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
You know, Christian, I'll go to Muscle Beach with you
any time.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
That came out of my penis. But but so what
happened to them and Brandon super Chatter? She's if they're
all there, how does he make his money over they
super chatting him live while they were.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Actually they just hand him twenty dollars bills and called
chat and f slur dude.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
He did.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
He did the three hours show. And it's just like
the super chests that were coming and they were all
like one hundred dollars, two hundred dollars super chats. It
was made worried about Kevin he does Okay.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
It's unbelievable speaking of Okay in nineteen ninety two, because
we'll talk about the TV show at the end. The
first time I think this has ever happened. And I
may be wrong, but I highly doubted I might. I
could say what I want, we get a film spin
off from a TV show, The Twin Peaks Firewalk with Me.

(56:27):
Is this the first time that this has happened of
a TV show getting a film? I don't know. I'm
still waiting for La Law the trilogy. Let's get it going,
We're all ready, and then answer some unanswered cues.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
I would say, it's pretty rare that a TV like
TV shows get movies all the time, like Miami Bice
and Doctor Who in the Daleks and so on and
so forth. But this is it's pretty rare that like
a filmmaker continues the story of a show in a
movie the way that David Lynch did, and especially changing
the tone and making it so kind of downbeat and

(57:06):
not what the TV show was well, and.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Also the simple fact that people hearing Oh, there's gonna
be a Twin Peaks movie. Great, we're gonna get We're
the way that the initial series left to everyone wondering.
It's like, okay, we're gonna get the answers. No, no,
this is a prequel, so you'll know a little bit.
But no, no, no, we're not going to continue the story.
We're gonna go ahead and loop back.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
And yeah, it was supposed to be the start of
a trilogy. Yeah that that commercial heard, David Lynch, your
typical piece of shit. No wonder Vin Diesel refused to
start in Mulholland Drive. But we'll get to that. But
the thing about it, I remember watching this for as

(57:49):
a kid on TV and I'm watching it and it's
really dark and atmospheric, and then David Bowie turns up
and I'm just it's like, what the fuck is going on?
David Boy, of course, did a a play version of
Alfant Man, and he played it as a English person.

(58:11):
I'm just saying they're all count But so, Achille, what
did you think of Twin Peaks? Firewalk with me.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
So we'll talk about my opinions about the TV show
a little later. As you said, but I think that
Firewalk with Me needs to be held in its own
little universe, not necessarily as an extension of the TV show.
So when I watched that movie, I understand that it's
twin Peaks. I understand that I'm in that universe. To me,
it feels extremely different, and I really like what it is.

(58:42):
I think Liam did a very good job of kind
of explaining the minute differences.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Durd it's.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
It.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Well, I'll just say this now about the TV show.
I'm I would have been very happy if the TV
show had ended after season one and we had never
seen it ever again. That would have been a very
exciting thing for me. And so it was challenging for
me to accept anything else as a part of that universe.
And I think that that's why I struggled with Firewalk
with Me for a long time. That said, as a

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thing in and of itself, I think it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
M what did you think of Firewalk with Me? A Liam?
You old finger smeller?

Speaker 3 (59:23):
I am ah me. I uh, I would agree with Kaylee.
I think it's it does feel like its own thing.
It feels like David Lynch was in a bit of
a down mode when he made it. Also, I I

(59:45):
when I try to go into movies not knowing too
much about them. So I didn't know it was a prequel.
I didn't know that it was going to be like
this is the life of Laura Palmer. And I might
not have gone for it in the theater if I did,
because you you get a lot of you get a
lot of sense from the TV show that Laura Palmer's
life isn't going to be very nice, and and he

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just lays it all out there on screen and it's
it's not nice. But that being said, you know, really
any chance to visit this world even season three, which
I mean we will talk about that later, but it
felt like David Lynch was tired of making Twin Peaks
by the time that hit the screen. Yeah, I just

(01:00:28):
I honestly, I just wish it had been sillier and
you know, honestly more abstract than it ended up being.
And because it really told a very concrete story ultimately
set in a world where like part of the fun
and the joy of it was how not concrete it
was and how like abstract and all the different It

(01:00:50):
was a funny show. It went in a lot of
funny directions. I mean, there's a reason why, like you know,
you know, damn good piece of pie or whatever was damn.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Dodn't find coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Yeah, like all that shit entered the lexicon because it
was funny. Like David Lynch is a lot funnier than
people give him credit for.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I don't know. I think Laura Palmer's good seemed
like kind of a funny guy. If you really.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Due huge ray wise word wise, he's a funny guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Christian, what did you think of Fine? Walk with me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Well, I understand what everyone's saying, but this film does
not exist in a vacuum. And I did not enjoy
this film. And I agree one hundred percent with Kaylee,
And I'm not doing the thing I used to do
when I was a single man, that if a pretty
girl had an opinion, I would just agree with it.
I do actually think it would have been great if
Twin Peaks ended after the first season. Maybe we would

(01:01:50):
have gotten more of the little person, but I would
have been fine with it. And I think that to
Liam's point, the Showtime sequel is basically his joke of
where it's like, you're gonna give me a bunch of
money to do something. I don't want fuck it. I'm
just gonna, you know, put it all out there. So,
uh No, I'm not a I'm not a fan of
this movie. I I didn't enjoy it, and I I

(01:02:12):
again thought about rewatching it, but I was like, no,
I I know my opinions are strong and sturdy, and
I didn't have the time, but I don't I don't
enjoy this at all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I just want to make a point, which is Kaylee
is a pretty woman, not girl anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
That's offensive. She's she's a pretty girl, but she's an
old woman. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
No, no, it's so true.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Well let's just all agree that no matter whether she's
a girl or woman, it's all down hill from here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
By the way, can we can we shout out truck
r Andy in the chat for making the same Steve
Zisu choke that I made earlier, because I think he
must not have been watching.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Trucker Andy gave me permission, he said, I can say
that this movie stinks, and I'm like, good because I
that's actually what I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Okay, but we will ignore the poor chat from Anon.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
But you know, if if you had offended him, what
a great excuse to go on his podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
See so it was then five five years before David
Lynch released another film, and it's just coming to tried
to do something with Madonna, which is such a shame
that it didn't happen. That ugly woman.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Was what he was going to do with Madonna? Take
her out into a field with a rusty shovel or
was there something different that he was going to do,
because that would have been great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I hope he would have done to her count what
happened to the ear in blue velvet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
But anyway about America's sludy Catholic school kill.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, well she used to be a sludy school girl
and I she looks like a shark. We're in a
chemo therapy week.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Scared I was gonna say, oh no, it's my future.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Dark. Well, you can ask you when when was he
gonna make this price? I haven't heard about this, So
was it chemotherapy era? Was it a sexy vixen trying
to be Madonna era? Like? Which era of Madonna are
we talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
I think after we've seen a Vida, he was like,
I've got to make a film with her. She's the
dumbest piece of shit. That's ever lived. There's gotta be golder.
I think it was the nineties before you know she
lost credibility.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Wow, she's not a very good actress. She'd be great
in my next movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
See all You're gonna do is do Kevin Brandon impression,
and you can do that Rainea Vidos in that blow velvet.
It's a great movie. Nineteen ninety seven's Lost Highway, starring
modern day mister night Sky Marlon Monson, Thank God, I've
never done the thing wrong to her dadnyone Killy, what

(01:04:57):
did you think of Lost Highway?

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
I saw Lost Highway in full for the first time
just recently when they did the four K, when it
was back in theaters after the four K restoration. I
had seen dribs and rabs of it and had kind
of put it off, And when I saw that it
was going to be in theaters again, I was like
perfect timing. It's like a surrealistic, esoteric mind trip of

(01:05:26):
a I don't know what happened at any moment in
any time, and I have no idea if I like
this movie or if I absolutely hate it. This is
one where I cannot put my finger on if it
is something that is outstandingly perfect or absolutely horrible. And
maybe that's where some of the debate about Lynch comes from.

(01:05:47):
Is you know, is it just weird for the sake
of being weird, even though again I would argue this
one's kind of more comprehensible than some of his films.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Would you think, Aliam Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
I also saw in the theater and actually Mary Sweeney,
who is his ex wife and editor and co writer
and collaborator, did a Q and A afterwards. And the
great thing about La public Q and as is they're
all terrible, and they all take too long, and everyone

(01:06:20):
crams eighteen questions into one question, just like I'm cramming
eighteen answers into this answer. But it's very fresh in
my mind. I will say there are two things. I
will say. It's a beautiful movie. It looks amazing. It
is you know, David Lynch at the height of his powers,

(01:06:41):
just telling the story he wants to tell. The Robert
Blake on the Highway scene again one of the funniest
scenes in movies, just when he pulls that guy over
and beats the shit out of him for driving, gives
him a lecture about dangerous driving, Like that's that's a
fantasy you have in la every day. And I could
tell it was just something that David Lynch pulled out

(01:07:01):
of a very personal part of his life. But it
was two hours and fourteen minutes long, and it felt
like we got half a story, Like it just did
not feel like a complete story, and it was very
ultimately not satisfying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah, I'm with you. I thought this was the best,
the worst example of him being weird for the Sheik weird,
like the guy transformed into another character right in the
middle of it. And I don't know, but Christian, what
did you think of it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Well, I'm always willing to concede that. Sometimes I'll see
a movie and be like, you know what, I probably
just didn't get it. Now I'm hearing everybody else talk
about it, and I was like, no, no, I just
think it wasn't great. My theory has always been, you know,
this is Robert Blake's last film, and my understanding is
that his wife told him what she really thought about
it while they were out of dinner, and he's like,

(01:07:56):
hang on, I'll be right back. But that's again, it's
a working theory. It's alleged, you know, I'm sure that
the valet at Vittello's wasn't holding his gun for him.
But in any case, it's it's again, it's a mess.
It's everything you're talking about, and Liam, you kind of
nailed it. It's like it's it's so long and you're like, okay,
but we're gonna get there at some point, and we

(01:08:17):
never actually do. At no point, Hughsy does this film
finish on your leg like you wanted to?

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
My God, I would say one of the joys of
living in the valley is I had coffee across the
street from Vitello's yesterday with a friend and we just
laughed about the Robert Blake murder and like literally just
kind of like spend fifteen minutes telling jokes and pointing
to all the spots where everything happened. It's just like, yeah,
what a joy, What a joy it is too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
It is the best thing that ever happened Attella's and
Wendy Leeman's show.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
That was that was a lot of fun too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
You know, you were talking about his ex wife and
editor and let's just say I knew some people who
attended a school where she was an instructor, and they
were in her house, and I think I might have
even told this story before to Hughesy. There was rumors
that David Lynch, for whatever reason, in his freezer, kept

(01:09:18):
individual parts of birds frozen in different ziploc bags. So
someone had a chance to look in there and they
were very disappointed. But I was like, I'm sure that
that's not the regular freezer. Somebody needed to go downstairs
and then we'd have proof that for some reason, this
guy needs individual bird parts in the freezer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Well, I want to know what he does keep in
his freezer, because I bet it's like bad generic supermarkets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yes, it's all gray boxes that don't have any branding
on them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Oddly enough, I really love Bob's Bombs, Big Boy Milkshakes,
the worst milkshakes on Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
In nineteen ninety nine we get the Disney fillm The
Straight Story. I've never seen this one, Liam has. What
did you think of it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I think it's great. I can't off off hand remember
who played the lead, and I can't google and talk
at the same time this morning, unfortunately, But it's just this, really, you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Know, Richard Farnsworth.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Richard Farnsworth is so good in this movie, and he's
like someone who is not really gonna be remembered past
too long a time. And it's unfortunate because this is
this is just like such a great simple story. The
first time I saw it, I was like, Wow, what
a surprisingly straightforward film. And then I watched it again

(01:10:48):
actually in a park and a storya surrounded by kids
who were really digging it, and I was like, oh wow,
there's all these like weird little touches I didn't notice
the first time I watched it, you know, just like
what I was talking about was Return of the Jedi.
Like it's David Lynch doing a Disney movie with all
the weird shit just creeping onto the screen when you're
not looking. And I think it might be Harry Dean

(01:11:12):
Stanton's best performance on screen ever. Like what a great
affecting movie. And I don't know what David Lynch is
trying to say with it, and that's okay. Like I
think it's like okay sometimes to just watch a movie
and make a movie and know that, like it's just
a fun movie to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Uh, killy, have you seen it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Yeah? So I love this one. This is another one
that I was inspired to watch because of my parents.
My father called our landline. One day, I think he
was at work and he called the landline and I
answered the phone. He goes, you gotta go to the
video store right now and rent this movie called The
Straight Story. And I was like, I have no idea

(01:11:57):
what you're talking about. And at the time I was
not at all interested in directors, Like it wasn't that
wasn't a thing that had become part of my vocabulary.
So I go and I rent this movie and again
it's it's not at all like something I would expect
either of my parents to be interested in. And it's
this beautiful retelling of this true story. And Liam I
hit on this point. The idea of calling it the

(01:12:19):
Straight Story is ironic, both for Lynch's general never telling
a straight story and then also because that is the
actual real Guy's last name is Straight. And I couldn't
believe when I finally put the pieces together, and I
was like, wait, that's the guy that did Blue Velvet
and Mulholland Drive and The Elephant Man and Eraser. I

(01:12:42):
was like, that's not possible. But Liam is exactly right.
It feels like Lynch when you are watching it. He
has the pops of color that are in all the
Lynch films are also in the straight story in a
slightly different way, but you can tell it feels like
a Lynch film, and it's really perfect done and so
interesting that he dove into something that is vastly different

(01:13:04):
than the rest of his catalog.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
By the way, I'm sorry, I just looked it up
and Farnsworth actually was nominated for the Oscar for Best
Actor for this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
By the way, I've never seen this, but hearing the
two of you talk about it makes me wish I had.
As I was reviewing the filmography yesterday, I was like, oh,
damn it, that is one I would have liked to
have seen. So you've sold me on it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Honestly, it's a movie you can watch with your kid
like it's you can sit down and make a family
night of it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Yes, well, we're already going to be watching Terrifier three
this evening, but maybe next week.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Well we've no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I got to two thousand and one at mul Holland Drive.
This is but the rise and fall of the Hollywood
dream where some people would dream, but I don't know.
Marian a beautiful Asian woman that you got a cool
job and you get the unprotected shacks where her get
pregnant while she's working, and you get the hangout at.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Home actually real dream, as if she's ten years younger
than you usual.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Oh fuck, yeah, I'm there. You get to talk about
Marvel shit all day. That's the dream. But that's kind
of unrealistic. I don't think that would ever happen. But killy,
what did you think of two thousand and one's more
Holland Drive?

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
So I saw this my friend in sixth grade. She said,
we got to watch this movie. It's gonna be amazing.
And I had already seen Blue Velvet at the time,
but again, I didn't realize that it was the same director.
And I remember us watching it so distinctively, and I
remember not having a single idea of what was happening

(01:14:45):
in the entire movie, but feeling like I had to say, oh, yeah,
I love this, this is so dang cool. I remember
being terrified, like to my core of the garbage Lady.
I could not go near garbage cans for a very
long time after seeing this film. I didn't understand sexuality
in the ways that the movie was diving into it

(01:15:05):
at the you know, when I was watching this, but
I was completely drawn in. I was like, I have
to watch this, I have to rewatch this. I have
to eventually kind of understand it. And I've probably watched
this movie twenty to twenty five times. I don't understand
it at all. I don't I have no idea what
is happening in this movie. That does not make me

(01:15:26):
like it any less. I think it's stunning. I think
there is something stunning about this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I think that the lady behind the diner. I think
that's what Lamby's going to turn into if she doesn't stop,
like overdosing on the weight on the daily basis, speaking
of which I can add some testosterone to little Lemmy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Oh wow, the Lady and the Diner. The Lady and
the Diner is in Stuttering John's movie One Too Many.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
What No, No, he just smells like that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Yeah, that's also accurate. But she's actually in there. She's
in the bathroom scene, she's in the poop scene.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Was at night Melende is alive at the time that
magnum Opus was made.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Oh let's leave named Melendas.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Yes please? Especially surgeons Christian, what did you think of
mulholland Drive, Well like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Night Melenda's I just didn't get it, and unlike Kaylee,
I don't go and see it twenty times. But I
have found myself in that situation where it's like, wasn't
it great? Yeah? Of course, I look, I think I have.
This is twenty plus years ago. I was a young
man when I saw this. That's how long ago it was.

(01:16:38):
I've never had even a hint of wanting to revisit it.
I just felt like I was just completely in the dark,
and I was already a little disillusioned by David Lynch.
Is probably why I didn't see the straight story, because
I was just like, oh, yeah, this is the guy
that only makes movies like every six seven years now,
and you're usually kind of like yeah, so yeah, I'm

(01:17:02):
not a big Mulholland Drive fan of the film or
Driving on the Road itself.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Yeah. My problem with this film is it I don't
pay to be the fucking to do a rewrite, so
you're supposed to tell us the story. Why should I
have to think thinking gay? And I'm straight, so I
don't need to do no fucking thinking. All right, ladies,
but Liam, what did you think of El Mulholland Drive.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Well, this is the movie that really taught me to
appreciate David Lynch movies. First of all, I went on
a date. First of all, I learned. I just learned
how much older I am than Kayley. I went on
a first date with the lady who I liked a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
He Pyramid.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I didn't want to go see it, and I said
that because I'm very emotionally available ladies, And she said, like, no,
here's the thing about David Lynch. As you watch us
movies and you don't really like processing with your conscious
mind like most movies, you kind of let just slip
past your conscious mind into your subconscious and you process

(01:18:09):
it in your dreams. And so I went into it
with that, with that mindset, and it's this amazing, beautiful movie.
It's a comedy. In my opinion. The first two thirds
of the movie are just a complete piss take on
old movies about going to Hollywood, and it's all about

(01:18:30):
like when people who live here, what their paranoias are
about the business, and about why they're not succeeding and
about why they fail, Like the idea that there's one
man who's like a spider in a web making all
these decisions about who gets cast and who doesn't. It's
kind of true, but it's also kind of like this

(01:18:51):
paranoid thought you get after a while that maybe there
is just fucking one guy who hates you and that's
why you can't succeed. And just her walking out of
the airport with that old couple really just like, oh,
ge Willakers, everything's gonna happen for me, and then it does.
But if you watch what's really great about this movie,

(01:19:12):
and what's great about what David Lynch does with his
movies and the level of control that he has over
his artistry is when you watch that airport scene, if
you pay attention to the sound design, there's no sound
except for the dialogue. Like it's literally she's walking at Lax,
one of the fucking noisiest airports in the world. There's

(01:19:33):
no announcements about the red zone, there's no plain noise,
there's no crowd noise, there's no ambient music, there's no
car noise. It's literally just her talking to this couple.
And that's the first clue you get that whatever you're
watching is not and what we define as the real world.
And I will also say one more thing, which is

(01:19:56):
the Spanish language version of Roy Orbison's Crying as sung
by That Lady is Beautiful. I listened to that once
a week. It's just so amazing, and it really like
also helps you just kind of like understand when the
whole Club Celenio scene when they're talking, when you just

(01:20:16):
hear Celencio Celencio so many times, it's because you've been
living in this world of silence for an hour and
a half and you're about to get shuttled into the
real world, which is noisy and dirty and breaks your
heart over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
That's a pretty interesting take. But I'm just thinking that
you got to see a Brazilian woman's big tits in
the film, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
I got to say there are a couple of erotic
scenes that are a little bit awkward when you're sitting
next to a lady on a first date, especially when
you are as I was. It was two thousand and one,
so I was twenty five, not real like smooth in
that department.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Well, I think you made an old choice of taking
a day to David Lynch movie that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
You had me. She insisted on it all. I told
her I didn't want to go, and we had already
had such a great date before it was a second date,
I guess, but like I just was like, I don't
want to fuck this up. Then I fucked it up,
so don't worry. I did fuck it up, but we weren't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
The final David Lynch film that he directed before he
died of a street fight after being drunk in a
bar was two thousand and six is Inland Empire. And
I have not seen this and you cannot get it anywhere, Killy,

(01:21:46):
what did you think of Inland Empire?

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
I also have not seen Inland Empire. It has been
on my list for years and it's just one of
those ones that escaped me. So I'm going to ignore
everything that everybody else says so I can enjoy it
without any other opinions.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
I don't know about over there, but we could get
it on Apple TV for three dollars and ninety nine
cents if anybody wants to see it. But I don't
know about over there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Here's saying I have the four K Criterion edition on
my shelf, but I have not watched it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
So so basically, party at Liams. Let's yeah, let's skip
the super Bowl and just head right over there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Yeah, we'll go. He knows a good place for murderers
drink coffee. Fascinating topic to bring up. Never dragging in
my life, and I never will. It smells hey, So
we of course that's the end of the David Lynch films.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
But all I wanted to say about In an Empire
is that I wish it was his the Other side
of the Wind, the Orson Wells film that he never finished,
that was finished like decades after his death. I wish
somebody else had taken this and maybe done something with it.
It's a mess, and I don't even know what to
think about it. I don't even know how to talk

(01:22:59):
about it. Because what was her collaborator's name. His collaborator's name,
Liam Mary Mary. She bowed out of this project because
it was too much of a mess and she didn't
understand what it was. He didn't have a script. He
just kept filming, which is actually the way all the
best movies are made.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Also, it sounds like the relationship was not too solid
at that point anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Yeah, he had frozen bird parts in his fridge, you know,
I mean, what did you want her to do?

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yeah? Plus I heard the lasted his child.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
But the we then get to you hear that from
the nobody else said the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Times Rade Beato told me. And if you can't trust
Red to Vedo, who can you trust Chads? You Mark
backed it up. But we now get to his TV
show Twin Peaks, which I have to say, in my opinion,
is the greatest TV show ever made. I thought that

(01:23:57):
season one was unbelievable. It was dramatic and scary and
mysterious and funny. I thought that the second season was
okay up until they revealed a big twist, but then
I thought that the third season was fucking unbelievably perfect

(01:24:17):
because I didn't know what the fuck was going on
at all. It was insanely weird. Nothing made any sense,
and even the way it ended is so frustrating because
we will nine never get any type of answer to
what the fuck it was supposed to be. What I

(01:24:39):
do love about this one is there rs and rs
of footage online of David Lynch losing his temper on
the set and argument with people. So I love that shit.
But what did you think, Keiley of Twin Picks?

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
I think that some of the biggest questions that have
been asked are you know who shot Jr? Who killed
mister Burns, and who killed Laura Palmer. I think that
that was one of the biggest questions that I wanted answered.
I think this is in my top five of best
TV shows ever. Absolutely, Twin Peaks is. It's it's stunning,

(01:25:18):
it's beautiful. I loved you use the word mysterious to
describe it, and that's a that's one hundred percent accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
It is something that I would have preferred if we
had left off at season one and we had never
revisited it ever. Again, I like the mystery. I like
not knowing. I have heard before. I don't know how
I accurate this is, but I've heard before that David
Lynch basically did not want to create any more seasons
after season one. He wanted to leave it off there,

(01:25:48):
and that the studio was basically like, no, no, no,
you have to do this. I ended up liking those seasons,
but I would have been substantially happier if we had
just done season one and never thought about it all ever. Ever, Again,
that being said, I have not seen the new seasons,
and I have heard that they add quite a bit
to the television show, so I am looking forward to

(01:26:10):
doing that. I kind of want to rewatch it all
the way from beginning to end again and get to
experience that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
So Elliam, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
The first season is a perfect season. I think the
second season is really hard to get through. And there
are a lot of fans who say you have to
watch the bad episodes to really appreciate the good episodes,
and I say, you can watch those episodes on fast
forward and get everything you need out of them if
you really need to. I think season three I liked

(01:26:44):
it a lot, and I think it was again David
Lynch just clearly did not want to make season three
or it just didn't seem interesting to him and Mark Frost.
So there's a lot of fucking around with just taking
David Lynch and his character into the world, and they
do it over and over again. You know, there's that

(01:27:06):
scene where he's having coffee with Monica Balucci next to
an art gallery, which I found out later was actually
exhibiting his art, and it really just felt like Monica
Balucci just was he just wanted to talk to Monica
Balucci because she's pretty like It really just felt like that.
But it also kind of gave you clues that you

(01:27:27):
were then watching the real David Lynch and the real
Monica Balucci and not roles they were playing. And that
very last scene is at the Laura Palmer House and
he and Cheryl Lee are talking to the real owner
of the Laura Palmerhouse. Like that woman in that scene
and her husband were the people that they were talking to.

(01:27:50):
And so there's this real like sense of like David
Lynch dragging his crazy universe into the boring real world
which he always wanted to escape. And again, I could
not tell you the message that he's sending or like
what his intention was with making the scene because I'm
not a mind reader and he's dead, but I will say, like,

(01:28:11):
it is something you've never ever ever. I mean maybe
the Mumpets did it in their movies, but like, other
than that, you never really saw people Just like, what
if we just took these characters in the real world
and said fuck it? Because what else can we do
with the show at this point?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Hm, what did you think? Asian wife? However?

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Ohow proud Asian wife. However, I need to I'm gonna
have to give credit to Captain Miserable in the chat
because I had the same thought, but I don't want.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
To look like I stole his joke that I needed
to shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
No, no, no, no no, because Hughesy said that Front
Peaks is the most perfect show ever made, and I
decided to be polite and uninterrupt you because I wanted
to ask, oh, have you seen cop Rock? And Captain
Miserable did make the point that cop Rock was, of
course the greatest show were made, and Twin Peaks again,
I was young when it was on. I guess I
was thirteen fourteen and it was I didn't know what

(01:29:09):
was happening. I just knew that I'd never seen anything
like it, and I think as I've gotten older, I
never finished it. I didn't see the new season, mostly
because I don't have showtime. You know, I might live
in Hollywood, but I don't have showtime money. So that's
pretty much why I've never seen it. I think that
what we most of us remember about the show is
the style over the substance of it. The catchphrases, the

(01:29:33):
casting is almost perfect, and yes, the backwards talking little person.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
You know, speaking of which backwards talking, If I could
put myself into how do you do this solo laoid.
If anyone can crack this code of what my thing
says underneath here, that will work I'd find for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
But anyway, yeah, I was wondering what that was, and
I just figured it was whatever language you Irish speak
that I never took the time to learn. So but yeah,
so I think that Twin Peaks is imperfectly beautiful, but
still beautiful all the same.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Yeah. Well, speaking of which, what plugs do we have
for everyone? Will start with the Liam because you're the
new boy to the gang, to the clan.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Well, first of all, I would say, go on YouTube.
There's another David Lynch series that's interesting but not great,
called Hotel Room. It's three episodes. You can watch it
in like ninety minutes. He made it with Mark Frost.
It's just interesting. But secondly, I am soft launching a

(01:30:52):
channel watch Liam dot com next Saturday. Very long fifteen
years ago, did a benefit Triumph. They insult comic dog
headlined uh Triumph very graciously said I could put it
up on YouTube. So for the first time I've got
the complete unedited set. I'm gonna be presenting it and

(01:31:13):
just kind of like discussing about a little bit about
what it was like working with Smigel and uh, just
about what the benefit was and all that. And I'll
be next Friday six pm Pacific, I mean Saturday six
pm Pacific, uh and nine pm Eastern before MLC, so
to end in plenty of time to tune in and

(01:31:36):
listen to Kevin yell at me for doing a show
around the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Wait a minute, you forgot to finish the title, which
is triumphany in Salt comic dog who stole his entire
act from stuttering John Melndez. I think, yeah, well that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
I had. I had to get Johnny Bench in the
crowd so Triumph could ask if the batter ever farted
in his face?

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Hey, Kelle, what plugs do you have? Well?

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
You can always check me out on YouTube once Over
with Kaylee c A Y L E Y in order
to check out movie reviews that I'm doing lots of
exciting stuff over there, new releases every Tuesday we go
live with them at six thirty pm Eastern. In addition
to that, you can check out my Patreon where I
do early releases of those movie reviews as well as

(01:32:25):
popsicle reviews. And I'm actually releasing a new podcast which
is going to be called The Murder Game with many,
many exciting guests on it. So if you want to
play The Murder Game along with me, you're going to
have to come and check all that out. And finally,
I will be in Vegas for hack a Mania May

(01:32:46):
nine through the eleventh, very exciting. I will be on
stage with who are these Podcasts? As well as Doctor
Steve in his last ever episode of Weird Medicine. And
if you want to come and join us for that
in Vegas, you can use my promo code kaylee ce
ay l euy for ten percent off your tickets.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Hey fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Yes, you get more of a percentage off than if
you use the other promo code that starts with C
Kaylee gets you ten percent. That other one only gets
you eight and a half percent off, so don't use
the other one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
I do that other one though.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
It's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
Actually, the person in the chatter said my YouTube is broken.
The Rocco and Melton both said my YouTube's broken. They're
both subscribed, so don't worry. They will both be fucking
with me as I launch content.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Well, well, they they both I believe have had very
large losses in Atlantic City, so they'll have plenty of
time to sit at home and watch watch Liam dot Com.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
And they're big, big fans, so I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
And I know that Hughesy does follow our Lord and
Savior Kevin Brennan when it comes to producing his content
and then immediately taking it down, so no one can
watch it unless they're a subscriber. But I will still
promote the fact that later today during halftime at the
Super Bowl, we will once again be doing our counter programming,
the Who Are These Broadcasters? Halftime Special? The Big Game Special.

(01:34:15):
Just in case the lawyers are watching, we have a
cameo from stuttering John Melendez that no one has ever
seen that I will watch with Grant Hamburger's brother Carl
and King of the Jews Shuleegar and of course my
co host Eric Zane. And you might see some rate
of video. You might even see some steelze, so please
tune in for that, and if you don't, just watch

(01:34:37):
our show regularly Tuesday's two pm Eastern eleven am Pacific
on the Who Are These Podcasting YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Yeah, and I had a pull up to see if
he stinks, and it actually says, it seems like people say, no,
he doesn't stink good David Lynch, but I don't know.
It seems like he kind of does. Doesn't seem like
people like nobody here. But he liked it, not much,
but no, I liked him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
It's just the you know, when they didn't work for me,
they really didn't work. But I think that is brilliant. Also,
you know him as an actor. We're allowed to talk
about Louis c K on this channel, right because he
had like he was like a network executive or like
a producer or something, trying to help Louie get ready
to take over the Tonight Show or some late night show.
And it really just showcased David Lynch's just incredible acting chops,

(01:35:25):
which didn't come up during the course of the show.
So let's let's shoot out Louis c K. He could
he could use a nice shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Yeah, we'll send them the Lincoln. We'll get him on
for the next one. We have. Thanks everybody for coming on.
I always said, like the end, Despy talking about how
I need to go for a pitsch. It's being in
ninety minutes without a piss, and I'll deal him with guidefoot,
which means I medically have to pitch. So thank you

(01:35:52):
three for coming on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
Huh you got that part of the conversation. Yeah, he started,
you're the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Well, Ray actually helped me with the medical terms, and
weirdly I do I've recovered quickly while Ray is a pedophile.
But anyway, yeah, I we we're like the Lost Highway version.
But anyway, I'm You're just the land me from going
for the pista. Actually a lot of fun. Okay, well

(01:36:28):
I'm gonna see everyone and I'll have my deck guden seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Okay, thank you everybody for coming on, Thank you everyone
for listening. Doesn't love ballad stuff make it sound better?
Of course it does. Everybody agrees with me, zero crying,
complaining critics at all. I don't know what the next
episode is going.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
To be yet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
I only really plan ahead during Deschamberg, But there you go.
Do you want to thank everyone for the success of
the Iraq episode did very well on YouTube, so thanks
for that, and yep, thank you for listening and is
shusey bye bye,

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