ep. 220: does M. Night Shyamalan stink?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is Shugy. Hello everybody. We were back with a
director's roundtable discussion, this time on the great M Night
Shyamalan or is he actually that great? We were joined
this time, I should I say for the first time,
we were joined by film Marks. And if you don't
know that name, you may know it from Pro Wrestling

(00:48):
Times on YouTube. Just started off his own pop culture
show called film Marks. I think, yeah, I probably should
have checked this before doing this part for White Change Now.
So m Night Shyamalan if you don't know, of course,
she's directed the big known classics such as The Sixth
Sense and Signs and Lead in the Water. Everybody loves

(01:12):
that one. Well, we recorded this live on YouTube. Got
some great interactions from people. Good super chats, good, good
all round conversation. You are going to hear me fumble
at one point because I try to learn how to
play clips for the first time, which is something I've
never really done before. So there you go. It's not

(01:35):
really something that I'm planning to do for my own
but I tried and I failed, But there you go.
It's totally annoyable. Already dined on the episode. So this
is about an aren't twenty minutes. Instead of just being talking, talking, talking,
I'm going to put up a mixture of a sign bed.

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It's not a thing that all to the episode, thing
that all day, m night, Shyamalan or maybe is it
that's the twist. Oh, I've got some ideas, or do I?
There's the twist. I don't know how to have ideas.
It's not something I've been able to do. But anyway,
we are now going to jump straight into this episode.

(02:20):
Oh no, not no, here's the twist. We're not gonna
jump straight into the episode. We're going to first do
some plugs that if you want to see the video
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(02:40):
worth it. I'm at the hugely on Twitter, at the
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the other plugs are done by the others during the recording.
I hope you like it, but I also don't care
if you don't. There's the twist. But anyway, we're going
to say to fill Christian, I'm killing hello, Josie, stumbled

(03:07):
through the door.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Gussie lasted more.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Whiskey bread that screamed out loud, and he.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Wants the crowd stores lying off his time, songs and battles,
not stand on every said another tale. He never failed
plas Jersey flies, who rais again?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Sash Jersey.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Les that's right and as you can see over my
shoulder here CDs, that's because we're doing very nineties themed thing.

(04:02):
CDs were big in the nineties and so is today's topic.
The Wonderful m Night Shyamala. And the last time we
did a episode of Mel Gibson, he did a film
called The Mam A Lot of Fierce and we currently
will introduce the guy the Mam a lot of camera.
Phil muted Phil. How you did today? Phil?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I'm doing amazing. It's early where I'm at, but I'm
glad to be on Irish time and doing the darn
thing with you there, hughsy.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
So why didn't you doc yourself, talk about your private
life and tell us your address?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
For sure? So I was born and my Social Security
number are in no particular order. No, yeah, guys, I
am Phil Marx. I host Pro Wrestle Times Live show
and Pro Wressel Clips as my other YouTube channel, and
I also talk about pop culture. Now hey at Phil
marks out over on YouTube, so check me out.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Excellent And of course we're both big fans of the
Unbelievable who these broadcasters, but I also like Marvel Movie
Talk and of course The Black Cast. How are you
doing today, Christian.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I'm doing great. And you know Adam Hughesy the h Man.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Hughes has been on all of those shows, most recently
on the Black Cast with someone we'll see in a
moment talking about the passing of Val Kilmer. But we
really talked about a bunch of other things, mostly how
much you hate Warwick Davis.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
That really took up a good chunk of the interview.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Big redneck jugs.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
And I'll apologize to Phil. It's probably my fault that
we're doing this so early. It's eight am where I
am in Los Angeles, and that's actually when I needed
to do it because they it was such a busy,
busy day.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
You've gotten me beat by an hour, So I blame you.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, you just talked yourself. We know which time's on
your end.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Mountain or central region something.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, speaking of mountains, of course, the host of the
ever growing The Murder Game podcast. In Everyone's favorite review show,
Once Over with Killy, It's Killy, Who's Lucy typebox? How
you doing today, Lucy?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I am wonderful. I'm also tired, not because of the time,
but because I was out in a nightsotope s so
all last night and I danced my ass off and
my cunt smells.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
I'm just gonna speak for Hughesy. Can you prove it
to us and showdow Was that you have no ass left?
I think will be the judge of that killer.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes, gun fus.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
So three minutes at our first kunt parks drop, so
thank you, Ecusy.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, you know so, speaking of cut, this is a
director who's really got a high opinion of himself because
he's one of the few directors left who well, one
of the few directors who people actually know is a director.
There's that doesn't mean that it's good or bad. But
when here's something like people will go see it for

(07:04):
good or bad reasons. But before we get started to
have a poll in the chat, of course that's free
to vote on. Does m Knight Shyamalan stink? So far
we have sixty seven percent saying no, there you go.
So we were going to get through this because he

(07:25):
has sixteen films, And the great thing about m Knight
Shyamalan is it he doesn't waste time doing things like
prep work or research. He's just like, no, fuck it,
film it and get it out there. Bonus points. What
does am stand for?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Moncolore, money bags? I don't know, could be.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Muff Night Shyamalan. That signs accellent. So of course he's
been around for quite a while. He made his debut
with nineteen ninety two's Pram with Anger. Hey, Kiley, I
know you're a huge fun What did you think of
Prayam with Ainger?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I have not seen that movie, because who the heck has?

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Yeah, I was shocked that his filmography didn't start with
sixth Sense and I there's gonna be a lot of
times where you're gonna ask me what I think about
a movie and I might just give you one of
these because there's a bunch I haven't seen, but the
first two I didn't even know about.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I have never seen praym with Anger, Phil.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I've never seen it, and in fact, like I heard
about it, but I never I've never seen it myself either, so.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I had never even heard about it until maybe four
minutes ago.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
So when you brought it up, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Exactly, and not to get vulgar, but he followed this
up with a very short six years later, who Switched Much,
which is a sign that Killy Pramadinger was a Magga
smash nineteen ninety eighth Wide a Week? Have him seen it? Christian?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Well, I have whacked off to the poster because of
course Rosie o'donald's in this film, and it's Rosie o'donald,
not the young boy in the poster. I want to
try and dissuade those rumors about me, which is funny
because I thought that I had seen every movie that
Rosie o'donald did with Dana Delaney.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Somehow I missed this one.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Usual. Yeah, it's just it's sometimes it's a wake up
call for a Saul Killy. Have you seen Rosy O'donald's
Wide a Week?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yes, I sadly watched this the other day in preparation
for us talking about m Night Shyamalan. I was like, well,
I got to see one of his movies, because, like
Christian said, I had no idea that he had done
stuff before The Sixth Sense. So I watched Wide Awake
and it was trash. Also, let's just talk about Rosie

(10:09):
O'Donnell's role in this movie.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I was.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was mildly entertained by the fact that she was
cast as like the hip Catholic school teacher wearing a
baseball cap. And I was like, all right, well, I
can't disagree with any of that. You are correct that
it came out substantially later than his first film. A
lot of that was because it got completely held up

(10:34):
in production post production. How between the Weinstein brothers and Shyamalan,
they had huge disagreements. And I would kind of describe
this movie as like the predecessor to the Sixth Sense.
It's like a similar twist, but more boring and more wholesome,
because it's just like a coming of age story about
a little Catholic schoolboy who's developing his first crush and

(10:56):
finding God.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
And yeah, is it like the Sixth Sense in the
way that at the very end they revealed that the
whole time, Rosie Donald has been a huge fact cunt.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, I heard that Rosie o'donald was so fat that
when she was cast and wide awake. It was just
called a week. And also, according to my sources, the
disagreement m Night Shyamalan had with the Weinsteins was that
he was anti brutal sexal assault. So she's your own.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Here's the offense.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Says to me that one of the Weinstein brothers is
an American hero, but he doesn't like to say which one.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I fought on big fake Titch, phil a Tigi.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
You haven't seen Wide Awake either, No, And looking at
the cast here, I'm kind of glad I haven't. I mean,
Dennis Leary and Julius Styles come.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
On, yeah, yeah, and Rosie o'donald of course. And Rock
became one of the most irritating people in all of Ireland.
He get it out of my country. Your cunt smells
not never. Don't take that in the bad way, snowflake.
It's just the way we say, get out of the
country over here. But finally, in nineteen ninety nine, Shyamalan

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made something that people have actually seen or heard of,
the sixth sense, which is it difficult to say if
you have suffered a stroke when you were fifteen years old.
I'll start with this one, this is a weird film,
and that you can only ever really watch it twice
before it loses charm. The first time it's like an

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eerie thriller with that twist, and you go holy shit.
The second time you're rewatching it to sort of see, oh,
I see how they did this and the ghost and
how they set it up. That's pretty interesting. And then
the third time you go, this is fucking stupid. That
bit where there's a bit in it where the mum

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and Bruce Willis waiting in a hope in in an
office room right because she's getting ready to bring her
sax child, I mean, her young child to come see
a therapist, and they're just sort of sitting there. Waitn't
now thinking like that awkward that must have been for
Bruce Willis's guy to go, oh, hello, how are you?

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And the mom's just sitting there going and he must
he must be thinking, well, your mom's a ill county
and she farts a lot right in front of me.
Didn't It was kind of awkward? But there you go.
Christian Mudge think it's sixth sense.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
So I have the unique perspective on the sixth sense
that one I do think it's actually great. And two,
I knew the twist when I saw it, not because
I'm smart, because I think anybody who knows me knows.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
That's not true.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
I waited way too long to see it, and I
had avoided because I knew there was something surprising about it.
And then one night I'm watching David Letterman and there's
a sketch about the sixth Sense and we have some
one actor that people say is very handsome because he
looks like me. Nathan Lane is like, I was a

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ghost the whole time, and that was the punchline for
a bit, and I was like, Okay, I shouldn't have
waited four months to see this movie. So I go
and see it, and I watch it, I'm like, oh, okay.
So I'm watching it sort of the way you're talking
about the the second time you saw it. I'm like, Oh,
this is really interesting. This is really well done. I
like the way to do it. I'm a huge Bruce
Willis fan. I even saw half of Diehard five.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's how much I love Bruce Willis. I couldn't finish it.
But that goes without saying. So I think that.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
It shows off and we'll talk about this in his
next film as a filmmaker, cinematography, all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
It looks great, it's good, it's an interesting idea.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
But as we go through his filmography, the worst thing
that ever happened to him was that people blew the
people's minds were blown over the shock ending, because then
he's like, well, I guess that's what I got to
do now, but.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
In a vacuum. This movie is very good. If you
don't know the surprise, it's great.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, But that's the thing. It's that if you watch it,
a lot of it doesn't make any sense that it
like they're spending so much time together that at no
point somebody goes to the kid, who the fuck are
you talking to you?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, the one thing that does make sense is that
one mom that's trying to kill Misha Barton that part
I actually tracks pretty well.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I got a word for her, phil what does
she think of a sixth sens or that I already
ask you?

Speaker 4 (15:38):
You did not, but I did. I love the movie,
and as Christian said, yeah, it sort of sets m
Night up to where like it becomes this gimmick. You know,
after this, everybody expects the shock twist. I agree with that. Also,
I mean the only movie where Donnie Wahlberg is better
for a role than Mark Wahlberg. And uh yeah, big

(16:01):
Bruce Willis Fana. I'm a fan of the flick and
also hughesy. It's good the third time. If you're showing
it to the chick, you're banging for her first time,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
What do you mean sex?

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Either one the film or the act? Sure?

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Well, unfortunately anytime that that I have ever the first
time I've had sex with a woman, she always just
assumed that a ghost was there because there really wasn't
anything happening, so I try to keep it from away.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Is that because she woke up with actoplasm on her fish?

Speaker 4 (16:36):
I AGray to no ghost?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, I interfit in essay charges and of course, well.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Boston does make me feel good, So there you go.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I don't get it. But but before, of course, we
go to kill and we're getting vulgar, we're talking about sex.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well, I think we should just fuck?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Kay Is that?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'm in let's go.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I love action. I'm getting what, Kaylee? What is your
opinion of The Sixth Sense?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I actually this is a movie that I thought for sure,
I was going to hate on that third rewatch, kind
of like what you were describing, Husy. I went back
to and revisited this movie about ten years after it
came out. I saw it in theaters when it came out.
I was excited about it. I revisited it. I revisited
it about ten years ago or ten years after it

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came out, and I ended up really enjoying it. It
was shockingly good. That being said, everybody has already made
this point, but this movie made it so that Shyamalan
was defined by his twist endings. It's something he couldn't
escape for the rest of his career, and that it
makes it a little it almost becomes hacky in like

(17:53):
looking back at it, even though I think that it
wasn't at all at the time. I'm doing great at
words today apologizes.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
You know, I think I speak for all of us
when there's one film we all really love. That's right.
It's fifty First Dates starring Drew Bymore and Adam Sandler,
and it's about a dumb bitch that has some type
of fucking head injury who she forgets her memory every night,
just like a typical dumb skirt so in it it

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happened on her dad's birthday. So every day she throws
her daughter at birthday party and his gift that she
had got him was a sixth sense on fucking vhhs.
So every night they have to watch the sixth sense
instead of saying, let's do something else, cunt, because it's
not like she's just gonna remember it the day after.

(18:47):
It is terrible, But we have got a super chat
here by a ginghis hank douks for the fibal well
husualv marching with the Loyalists or Republicans on the Eastern Monday?
What do you think, Christian?

Speaker 6 (19:03):
I can't imagine you marching for any cause, especially because
we all saw that foot. I know it's better now,
but I don't think you're in marching shape just yet.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Accuse it, killy loyalist. They're Republican.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I don't know what Easter Monday is.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Well, I would assume it's the day after Easter. I'm
just taking a stab in the dark, Kayley, but that's
what is am I right?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And no spoilers and Phil, what do you think I'm
a loyalist? They're Republican? U.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I don't know. I'm gonna go with the other panelists
and just make fun of your foot or whatever. You know.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, great job, Phil, great job.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
But the answerer is Republican. Huh huh, good stuff. Fuck you.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
I thought in your country it meant something different, Like
you know how the British have a word first cigarette
that it's.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Just what we call rayefido.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well we don't. We don't call cigarettes pedophiloge here.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I didn't realize that A in two thojean the most
futuristic year of all time. Everybody was excited for the
year of two thousand. I came the show, the show
I kim the film Unbreakable, also starring Bruce Willis. I

(20:30):
let's start with kill on this one. What did you
think about Breakable?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Their lady, Well, I assume that you love this movie
because it's a movie where the twist ending is that
a black man was the villain the whole time, committing
multiple mass murders. So, Hughsy, I'm going to go out
on a limb and say that you love this one.
But I will tell you I love this movie. I
think that this is probably the height of Shyamalan's career.

(20:55):
For me, I really enjoy it. I think it's an
interesting plot. I think it's well executed. I think the
reveal is great, and the twist isn't so over the
top that I'm like, all right, I can get it.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
I want to sit here and spout about black people.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, but I I thought that Unbreakable was flawless. I
think it's brilliant. It was creepy, it was original, and
dare I say it, the score was was fucking great too,
you like, I remember seeing this at the time and thinking, Wow,
m Night Shymalan's good. And speaking of which, the poll

(21:40):
has not been overtaken. Does m Night Shyamalan stink? Isn't I?
Sixty eight percent? Yes? One more percent? I allow you one.
But Philip, what did you think of two thousands Unbreakable?

Speaker 4 (21:54):
I love it. I think this might be my favorite
Shamalan film. Perhaps. I also think is this the first
one he makes a cameo in? I know he like
starred in that first movie even though we all never
saw it, but I can't remember. I think this is
like the first one because he seems a cameo and
all of his flicks. But uh, yeah, I just think

(22:15):
it's great. It's like a grounded comic book story, and
then it's spurned off into like its own MCU almost
if you will in the future, which we'll get into.
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, No, he was in the sixth sense. I think.
I think he played that really stupid looking guy that
could not no. That was all right, I'm sorry. Well
you know what to say. Well, PDFs look like, hey, Christian,
what was your take of Unbreakable?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
So I have to talk about this movie.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
Up until, say, like the last three minutes, I thought
this movie was brilliant. Again, to look at me, you'd
never know. But I grew up quite an. I love
superhero movies and stories like that. I had no idea
that this was like a superpowered superhero story. And I
love Bruce Willis. I might have mentioned that earlier. I
even saw it Diehard four. That's what a fan of you.

(23:11):
So I thought it was great. And there's a sequence
where he's on the train where m Night sitting behind him.
I assume he's moving his own camera and it's filmed
from the seats behind. He's panning back and forth, and
that sticks with me twenty five years later.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
I thought it looked great.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I thought it was really well done until the twist ending.
So I went with a dear friend of mine, my
friend Laura, and I went to go see this movie.
We didn't really know that much about it, and we
went and we're probably just enjoying it the way everyone
else in the theater does. And then at the end,
when he says call me missed Glass, we start laughing inappropriately,

(23:47):
and everyone's starting to look and it's building, and then
the words come on at the end he was sent
to a home for the criminally insane.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Then I laughed so hard It's like I can't breathe.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
It's like think, like watch Chad Zumac's Dry Bar Special
and then the reverse of that.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
That's how hard I was, like, I couldn't breathe.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
We're sitting there, the lights are coming up, people are
just staring at us, and it just making me laugh more.
I could not believe the way that he just sucked
the ending like that. I thought it was a good movie,
and then I was like, oh, right, this is his thing.
He needs to try and shock us, but instead, and
I didn't know the bad endings that were still to come,
but I couldn't believe that he ruined the movie in
the last few minutes for me.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I remember there was a bit in the film where
the mom takes the mister Glass who's good brittle bones,
to a theme park and puts him on one of
those Rhindo bite things and puts cushions in it and
assims that's going to protect him. And I remember watching
thing like, are you stupid, bitch? What the fuck are

(24:50):
you doing? That's one of the most dangerous things you
could possibly do. And you wonder why he grew up
to be mentally ill. Yeah, for some reason, walk the
rhyn were in Prince's jacket and nobody ever said anything.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Nobody said anything when Prince wore it, so it probably
makes sense.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
But play guitar.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
That's a great point.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
But yeah, no, I thought that Unbreakable was in his
great and it was supposed to be the start of
a trilogy that was delayed because while Unbreakable was a
hit and the Sixth Sense was like a mega box
office hit, so then, of course might Shyamalan shit himself
seen it as a failure and moved on to two

(25:37):
thousand and twos Signs, which of course starred mister nice
guy Mel Gibson Blacks. That's right, killy, what did you
think of two thousand and twos? Signs?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
So, coming off of sixth Sense and Unbreakable, I went
and saw this in Peters ran to theaters to go
see this. I was so excited. I was like, this
is amazing in another movie by this guy. It's gonna
be great. My friends and I went to go see
it and we came out of it. I remember thinking
this was actually kind of interesting. I like the usage
of the crop circles. I hated the twist. It was

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so stupid. I was like, what are we even thinking?
But I was young enough that I enjoyed the movie.
I remember we came home from the theater and there
were like all of these bushes. We were like walking
home there were these bushes, and I remember being afraid
that there were aliens in the bushes. So this movie
did impact me in some way. I was probably just
a stupid kid, and I certainly realized that I was

(26:40):
a stupid, stupid kid later, because I revisited this one again,
probably about ten years after it came out. I had
wiped this movie so far from my memory that I
had forgotten mel Gibson was in it, and then I
watched it again and I hated it. And this movie
is tr This is the stereotype of how quickly can

(27:01):
somebody become a caricature of themselves. Shamalan hit shamaland all
over this movie and I was like, stop fucking shamalaning
like it was. So it was such a frustrating film
for me.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, and of course, just this is a plug for Christian.
We just did a review of a lot of talk
about cop Secret. Yes, the Zuckerberg's film starn Val Kilmer.
They did an actullent piety of signs when they did
Scary Movie three and they went from mister Knightsky mel

(27:38):
Gibson to mister knight Sky Charlie Sheen. So it was
all very well. But Christian, what did you think of sins?

Speaker 6 (27:46):
This is the so spoiler for the end. This is
where I tapped out on m night for a while.
And the only reason I've seen the happening is that
I watched it for this.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
But I will have not.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Seen any of them movies when they were released until
we get to Trap, because he trapped me into thinking
that that was gonna be a good movie. Hey O,
But so watching this movie, I was like, Okay, this
is kind of interesting, but there it's like very paint
by numbers filmmaking.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Swing Away, swing Away. Oh he's gonna use the fucking bat.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
And then they they break the rule that we were
given by the X Files, never show us the fucking alien.
And then they show you the alien and you go,
oh no. I thought this was an M Night Shyamalan movie,
not an m Night Melendez movie. I didn't realize that
he was gonna be in this because I don't know
what that was. And Joaquin Phoenix, I had to think

(28:41):
long and hard about whether or not I liked him
after this movie, and Joker too could finally convince me
he's brilliant. But yeah, this is to Kaylee's point, you
said it much better than I could. He really did
Shamalan every aspect of this movie, and I think it
was a huge success, right. But I hated it so

(29:02):
much that I did not Lady in Water, I did
not the village.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I was just like, no, fuck this guy, Phil, What
did you think of shines?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
So I remember, you know, when it came out going
to the theater as well, and it was one of those
movies like aliens used to freak me out when I
was younger, because it's realistic to a degree, I guess, right,
maybe not, I don't know, but yeah, I just remember
being scared throughout the whole thing. But yeah, when you
watch it back years later, I mean, I mean, yeah,

(29:35):
shamaland all over the place. That's the best way to
put it. However, I do want to say, like Mel Gibson,
I thought was like excellent in the movie, the way
he can just turn crazy on and off. But that's
just him like in everything.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You know.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
The difference is in a movie he turns crazy off.
In the real world he just kind of lets it ride.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
But I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
For I was gonna say I like the scene where
he yelled at his wife about putting her in a
rose garden, but that was just voicemails that leaked online
at some point. But no, I did it. At the time.
It was like one of my favorite movies. But again
I was I don't even I was maybe in high school,
not even when it came out. So uh yeah, I
you know, looking back on it gets a little silly

(30:17):
at points. Yes, never showing the alien that is one
thing throughout the film, I felt like, you know, they
did a good job of as well, was like you
only really saw the fingers come under the door and
things like that. But then up at the end, yeah,
they're fighting like a full on CGI monster and it
gets a little silly.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
But yeah, I but I remember the first time watching it,
and it was that scene where it was news footage
of a kid's birthday party and when they show you
that jump scare the alien walking out behind the fans
for the first time, that scared the living shit out
of me, Like that was one of the all time

(30:54):
grid jump scares. But the fact that it's a very
I think shamal any thing where that the kid keeps
drinking like some water and leaving it about the house
just like put it away. They get dickhead and if
she's not gonna do it, somebody else should. And it's
also unintentionally funny where they think they're having the last

(31:19):
meal together and mel Gibson cry eat smashed potato and
it's fucking hilarious and it's not supposed to be. And
I think that six string Man makes a good point
to him and he says, Shamalan stinks we're getting there
don't worry, don't worry. But this, of course, as we mentioned,

(31:40):
was a massive box office head, so he was back
on full control where he could pretty much do anything
he wanted. He made sort of medium budget horror films
hearts thrillers that were massively successful at the cinema and
did really well on home media, so people lining up,

(32:00):
they let him do whatever he wanted next. What he
did next was the Village. I'm gonna be honest, I
was a big village defender for a long time, but
over the years I've gone I wouldn't say daf but
I get bad tonight this or tenadus in my left ear.
So Jack Quinn Phoenix delivers every line of dialogue in

(32:23):
the film like this, and you go, what yeah, So
I have to literally subtitle when he comes on the
twist of the spoiler alert there will be spoilers, right, killy, yep,
that's covered soon. Clover Field Review. The twist of it

(32:47):
being no offense Christian the creatures were actually the village
Elders was not shocking at all because when you first
see the creatures, just like, oh look that's a human dress.
That was a creature, very badly designed but the revealed
that the village was actually sat in modern times. I

(33:10):
thought was great, and it had the longest fucking cameo
by a director ever where might just starts fucking happened,
and I mean, he fucking goes on. If they released
an Yeah, if they released an extended version, it would
be called the director's cunt.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Hell, but a bit longer than a than a Tarantino cameo,
like the hilarious line he has in pulp fiction about
what it doesn't say in the front of his house.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Go ahead and say what that is? Gayley? No never okay, just.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Tricky game dead ginger storage just what I think pretty close.
But I gotta say I really loved the village and
he did this unbelievable thing to promote it that I
wish hadn't been such fucking killed joys about it. Were
they put out like a two R or a three

(34:06):
R long fit documentary about and like Shyamalan that was
supposed to sort of dox his private life and all
this weird shit, And it was clearly not real. It
was advertised as real, and the big scandal was that
he drew people into watching it. Killy's not and she
knows what I'm talking about, Killy. What did you think

(34:28):
of the Village?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, I agree with you a whole bunch about the village.
First of all, I will say I really enjoyed the
idea of Shyamalan doing a period horror film, and that
was basically what most of this movie was up until
the twist. I like the idea of having people self
contained in a little town. That idea is terrifying to me.
I probably started falling in love with that concept when

(34:52):
things like you know, The Prisoner with Patrick Magowin existed,
like that is that is such an exciting concept to me.
And so the Village I was really pumped about it.
And then Shaman.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Did you say? And Patrick McGoun.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Yeah, leave me alone, Leave me alone. I got go
for you, and with you, it has the problem of
shyamalaning Again. Now that being said, I agree with you
that I liked the idea of it being set it

(35:32):
actually be in a modern day existence.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I enjoyed that when it happened. However, now looking back
on it, I think it's stupid as all hell. However,
I also want to talk about that sci fi original
mockumentary that happened, which I have heard. I don't know
if this is accurate or not. I have heard that
Shamalan was a ghost director on that, and I believe

(35:57):
that because it is very much talking about how great
he is and he clearly loves himself. I that is
my favorite Shamalan film is that sci fi original, The
Mysterious Life of m Night Shamalan or whatever the fuck
it was called. I have not seen it since it
came out. It was so exciting and so interesting. It
was funny to have a mockumentary that had a twist.

(36:20):
It kind of reminds me of I don't know if
you guys have ever seen I guess this would have
come out after the Shamalan one. But there is a
movie called The Incident at Lochness which has Werner Herzogen
and I forget who directed it, but it's that same
kind of concept where it's like, Okay, you're you're treating
something with reality and then also giving me something ultra fake,

(36:43):
and that is interesting and exciting and I loved it,
and I thought, I think that's the best Shamalan work
that has ever existed.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, that that really is an amazing documentary. And the
fact that like they even get Johnny DApp to come
be part of it. Then Adrian protein in the Village
he played a big, ugly retard, which was quite a
stretch form.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Are you sure that wasn't the role he was playing
on Oscar Night.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Phil, Yeah, he's the guy that get nominated for an
Emmy at the Oscars. Phil, what did you think of
two thousand and four as the Village Baby?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I largely agree with the both of you who spoke
before me. I will say this about that mockumentary. Remember
he's hanging out with Joaquin Phoenix around the time as well,
and right for back to back pictures and doesn't waking
He'd made like I'm Still Here, which is a mockumentary,
So who knows. Maybe that's where he got inspiration or ideas.

(37:46):
Maybe they were talking about it or something. Who knows.
But yeah, I definitely agree that I've never seen that,
but I want to now and I agree that I
wouldn't put that outside the realm of like what Shamalan
would do. Yeah, this movie, though I enjoyed it, the
twist I thought was so bad. This was the twist
where I was like, Okay, m night you gotta start

(38:08):
reeling it in here. And yeah, I just when you know,
like you realize it's in modern time and I believe,
like a plane flies over and you're just wondering, like
how did they not hear other traffic or how did
nobody I don't know. Then you start nifpicking it and
poking holes in this twist. And this was the one
for me where I was like, Okay, you know, we

(38:29):
got to reel it in a little bit. However, I
like the idea of, yeah, the seclusion, even the elders
being the monsters, Like even though that's you know, kind
of obvious as you're watching it, it's still it's like
the way to go, you know, you kind of anticipate that,
and then the modern times. That's like a double twist,
if you will. But yeah, I don't know. I'm just

(38:50):
more curious to watch this mockumentary now more than anything.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, I think you can find them on YouTube. But
there was some weird controversy seeing that they had said
that the documentary was real and the m night Shyamalan
had put this big press release saying that, oh I
don't support it and all this shit, like it's a
shame because it's actually kind of creepy. Or maybe that's

(39:18):
just me because I'm I get scared very easily. I'm
really not tough at all. But oh, here's a nice
comment for me from s What does that say? S
x F D seven says MLC needscusey.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
They send them a leg, senning the leg.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Let me at the rap down talking about the same
things over and over. Thank you, Kevin, Fuck Kevin Brendan.
We then went into two thousand and six and there's
actually a booker like this, and just yesterday on Twitter
there was a big the bitch last argument the Christian

(40:02):
was involved in of whether or not Paul Giamari was
a mainstream star before this film had come out or no,
it was before.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Siway Sideway by the way.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
Carlos Danger started that I need to make sure that
everybody knows how that conversation started, and then Stevie Lou
got in, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I just I would like everybody to also know that
I woke up this morning and I was like, what
the hell he.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
That's Liam's fault.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Yeah, because Liam tagged me, you and Hughsey in that thread,
So thanks Liam.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I had some great morning reading over my coffee.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
I'm seeing the new Jason Statham movie with Liam and
another friend tonight. Jealous, so I'm going to talk to
him about how Kaylee didn't appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Ody seame.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
That's exactly what I said. Those are the words that
I said.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
I'm the Statha meter.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
Where is it, Hughesy, I'm excited out of out of seven?

Speaker 5 (40:59):
Yeah? Seven?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Three?

Speaker 5 (41:02):
All right, that's good. TV's Will Herron.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Morning, Will. That's a good boy there. You know. It's
the most Jason Stith and me, Jason Stith in film everything.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Even more than Crank and Crank two and Crank three. Well, no,
I actually don't think there is.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
That's what I'm doing later.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh hey, he forgot to put year olds at the
end of it. He's one of them. No, but it's
I was wondering why it was so Jason Stith me,
and then the credits said produced by Jason Stith.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Well, I would do it, And I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
I did help steer us off the topic of Paul
Giamati and Sideways, and we had seen him before Sideways,
but I hate to give any ground to Stevie Lou
but he wasn't really as recognizable he wasn't really a
big name until Sideways.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
So excuse me. So the production of Lady in the
Water was so messed up because m Night Shyamalan's previous
one to three four films had pretty much made a
combined billion dollars and nearly all of that was in
profit because there's the lower budget thrillers. So he was

(42:18):
like one of the most bankable names in the world.
But he submitted the script to his previous company for
Leading the Water and they said, no fucking way, and
they sort of insisted on changes. So of course he
refused to change it, took it to Warners, and ended
up making Laid in the Water with total control. And

(42:38):
as happens with so many other filmmakers, you can always
get to that one film and they have full control.
And it's shit that happened with Christopher Nolan the Tenant
that was fucking awful. Agree with you, Yeah, the worst
thing to happen in twenty twenty was Tenant was released.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
I've said that many times.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Exactly, Well, there's other directors in if I control that,
of course I could name them, but there's something wrong
with me. I can't fucking think right now. So Leading
in the Water came out, and this was the one
that I think messed up his career for a long
long time. It has some defenders. I was a defender

(43:21):
for a while, but my god, this film is shit.
It is so fucking crap that you could just tell
that he walked around an apartment building and wrote the
script that day. He doesn't even have a cameo. He
plays himself, another himself. He plays all of the janitor,

(43:44):
who is gifted with the ability to write so well
that it saves the world. Question. You said, you haven't
seen this one, baby.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
I haven't, but I think you might have had to
convince me that I need to. No no, starting with
the village when people had seen it and they're like, Oh,
I don't want to talk about it, I don't.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Want to spoil it. No, please always spoil it.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
I always wanted to know what the shit twist ending was,
So while I haven't seen it, I kind of want
to see him as the janitor.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Though, so I might look for just those scenes on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Hey Phil, what did you think of Lady in the Water.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
It's a movie that I saw once I never watched again.
I remember the guy with the super muscular one side,
which is how I look after Crank three. Oh no,
but the I don't know. It was not memory.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
I watched it in a hotel and that was it.
No thoughts.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
I think that story is probably more interesting than the
movie itself.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
I want to know what watch hotel? You already laying there.
You just broke in and watched the movie.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I legitimately thought that you were going to say so.
Hughesy was like, Okay, what did you think about this movie?
And I thought that you were going to end the
sentence in this was a movie. I was like, yep,
that's accurate. That is an accurate way to describe Lady
in the Water.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
I thought we said those spoilers. I didn't know this
was a movie.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Hughesy, you are right. The plot is extremely underwhelming in
this movie. That being said, I do think that there
are moments where it was well directed. And although I
won't defend the movie overall, I will say that I
think that it showed off to me the idea that
Shyamalan can be a good director. I think it had

(45:27):
its moments of being like whimsical and melancholy, and those
are all things that I look for, and so it
had a very different tone than his previous movies. That
being said, this movie was crap and I hated it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, it's it's inexcusable, and it was one of those
things that there was such that you can actually buy
a book, which of course I'm not gonna fuck it,
but I don't need no stinking books of the production
of this film was such a nightmarek and Giamatti and
Shamalan didn't get along, and the studio dumped Shamalan from

(46:05):
his New Day after one film. So stuff was not
going well for him until two thousand and eight The Happening,
and this sums it up perfectly from six string Man.
Nothing is worse than Mark Wahlberg versus a slight breeze.

(46:27):
I fucking I can specifically remember going to see this
and The Incredible Hulk on the exact same day. I
thought The Incredible Hulk was great, and so I thought,
I'm having a good time at the cinema. I like him,
like Shamalon, Let's go see what he does, what he's made,
And holy shit, was this fucking awful shite on a

(46:53):
level that I couldn't even fully explain or understand this
was his fucking desis in every way. But Christian, you've
seen it, what did you think of the happening?

Speaker 6 (47:09):
So my thought on the happening is on the one handed,
as a disaster of the proportions you're talking about, but
in the way that I think everybody needs to see
it because I had heard about how bad it was,
but until I actually watched it, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
No one associated with this movie should have.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
Been allowed to make a film again, and that includes
the actors. I think if I had seen this movie,
I would have never watched Zoe Dashanelle sitcom New Girl,
which I will admit I thought was funny.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
I used to watch it with my wife, Give me
a break.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
But if I had seen this movie, I'd be like,
I could never watch her in anything again.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Now I don't think I could watch her in anything again.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
But you know her character, and there's so many things
to shine a light on that are terrible on here
in the in this film. But there's something she's like
texting somebody at work and this storyline that goes nowhere,
and then he kind of makes fun of her about it,
and it's like every line reading is almost.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Like, Okay, what if you did this the way.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
That a sarcastic high school girl in the back of
the class would say something and she's.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Like, yeah, are you making fun of me?

Speaker 6 (48:24):
So there's a lot of directing going on in here,
and all of it is bad.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
It's an awful, awful, awful script.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
And I would say this is the worst thing that
I've ever seen Mark Wahlberg in, But then I did
see that commercial he did for the Catholic app so
you know, this is pretty close.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Though.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
I could not believe that this movie isn't as bad
as everyone says it is.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
It's like ten times worse.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Phil, What did you think of it?

Speaker 4 (48:55):
So yeah, I remember seeing this in theaters as well,
and I remember with the big twist at the end,
going like, oh, that's kind of cool. That's really stupid,
you know, And it's kind of like what's that movie
The Day After Tomorrow where they're like running from nothing.
Basically the whole time it's just that like it's over. Oh,

(49:16):
it's just Mark Wahlberg being like, oh, what's happening? So yeah,
it was what it was. I think it's an abomination.
This is like one of my least favorite Shamalan films
for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I don't really play clips often. So how do I
share scream? Here?

Speaker 4 (49:34):
You hit present and then you go to share scream
right straightforward there, Bud.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I don't know if this will play. This is an
example of the acting.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
I hear you whispering, Oh she was good, pranning on
steering something.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
No, man, we're not co sleep what no.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Running? What's happening?

Speaker 1 (50:08):
They should cash me in a Transformer.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
I mean, he's better in the Transformers movies than he
is in.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
This true killie. What did you think of the happening?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I have never seen this movie, and I probably never will.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Oh no, no, no, I'm gonna insist.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
I think I think we'll have to We'll have to
organize it, all right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
All right, I'll do it, but only if I can
spend just a moment making fun of you Christian for
liking The New Girl.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Okay, what part of I watched it with my wife?
Did you miss?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
And the guy who played Garrett Morris in the SNL
movie was very funny in that show.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
No, no, could anyone read with that?

Speaker 6 (50:55):
Volataire Voltaire three twenty five first time you or is
this a gay lifestyle show only when I'm on it
every other week it's not, but this week it definitely
ends well.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Speaking of gay lifestyles. In twenty ten, Might Shyamalan came
out with The Last Airbender. This see he gets it?
So this one, This was his biggest production to date,
one hundred and fifty million budget. This was supposed to
be the start. Of course, you guessed it a trilogy

(51:28):
of films that.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Was.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Of course, it's supposed to be good. I don't know what.
It's passed off some cartoon that I've never seen, but
it was heavily hyped.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
I think it's called Avatar, which is why it's called
The Last Airbender because obviously no one can hold a
candle to James Cameron.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Right, And they came out around the same time.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
It's like the same year, I think, Phil Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Which is typical. And how the fuck does James Common
get the rights to something to Avatar considering that Avatar
the cartoon existed first.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
I think you know the answer is one money to
he's a white man.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Thank God for the white man.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Wo.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah. So The Last Airbender was really bad. Even I
remember going to see it thinking well, there's no way
it's going to be as bad as that happen, And
that was a one off, more like the cropping in.
But anyway, seriously, guys, the and he also he wouldn't

(52:34):
let his style of film go. So there's there's a
part in it where there's a prison break that he
films in one really long take and it's so badly
done that people are just sort of standing there waiting
around doing nothing while action takes place in one part
in another. It is a terrible film. Philip, what did

(52:54):
you think of The Last Airbender? You know, I.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Actually loved it and defended it a lot when I
was younger.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I had it on.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
DVD, and realistically, I was just defending the prospect of
a franchise of like Avatar, you know, this this like
animated show that I also as a fan of. But yeah,
I mean, let's be honest, you know, it's it's not
the greatest film. That being said, it was ambitious for Shamalan,

(53:22):
you know, to do something like with a huge ginormous
budget and to you know, cgi and like essentially superpowers,
everybody's controlling different elements, right, So I don't know, it
was ambitious for him, but a little too ambitious, you know.
And then no real twist ending like you know, he

(53:43):
didn't try to pull like the happening type stuff at
the end of this Avatar movie, which or Last Airbender
rather which I don't know. Maybe he should have. Maybe
that would have made people not complain about it as much.
But yeah, I remember defending this like to death.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I remember as well. This came out during I think
twoy ten, one of the World Cups was on, and
everybody gets what we call it football favor as you
would call it over the soccer ads. So nobody wants
to go to the cinema to see anything, the one

(54:21):
to sit in to watch Paraguay versus Trinidad and Dibago
my dreaming football match. Pardon me, yeah, that's right. Where men,
we're fucking having fun, ra having a good time. Course
light in here, yes, So nobody was going to the

(54:42):
cinema during two and ten. I remember the a teen
kime out. Nobody gave a shit the fucking do you
remember Ridley Scott made a Robin Hood film. Nobody went
to see that. Everything was bombing in twoy ten. In
this it was not only shit, it was also a

(55:03):
huge flop, so his career was really off the skins
at Killy. What did you say you thought of this?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I have not, and I Christian alluded to this a
little bit with the happening. But my opinion of Last
Airbender is that everybody involved in this film should never
be allowed to make films again. They should all be ashamed.
They should all be ashamed. They should apologize to their
parents because at some point their parents reared them and
then they grew up to make this movie. It is

(55:33):
despicable and horrible and not funny or not funny is
the wrong word, not interesting in anyway. It was just like, no, no, no,
no no no no, no no no, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
What does this mean? I've seen this? If people say
this before Hans and pockets, Uh.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
I think that perhaps what our friend Waiver is saying
that seeing Kaylee means that he has to put his
hands in his pockets because his h his pants are
fitting a little tighter than they should be.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
But he also said me, so that you know.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
There's no way that I've made anyone's pants feel tight ever,
except for my own.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Oh yeah, oh fuck yeah yeah, yeah, that's we ever.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Thank you, and now Waivers send a nine line scent supersticker.
So I guess Weaver finished, Waver finished and has now
cleaned up.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
So thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
That's what I like to see. Yeah, yeah, dirty animal,
I fart on big fake kits. So Last Christian, you
haven't seen this one?

Speaker 6 (56:45):
No, no, no, I'm I'm going to be taking a
long CST until we get to trap.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Oh fancy he So Last Airbander was such a flop
that his career really hit the skids. But it was
around this time that Quentin Tantino Annoine's a film called
Django and Chained, a quite controversial film about a slave

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revenge story that was to star Will Smith, who then
quickly dropped out of Django and Chain so that he
could do two thousand and thirteen's After Earth, the dream
action film where Will Smith sits in a chair for
two to three hours while the new lead actor, Jaden

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Smith checks out the alien fucking planet to find something
to keep his dollar alive or whatever. I don't know.
Written and directed by M Knight Shyamalan Keilly. What did
you think of this one?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I did not see this one. It kind of made
me one of I was a good at try to
make a joke like stop talking about wild Wild West
in that way, But then I couldn't actually get there
with any sort of a joke. But now I'm interested.
It sounds horrible.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Yeah, yeah, you had me at Jaden Smith in terms
of you know, I can start a wish list of
hate watching films and this might have just gone up
over some of the others.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Things to say when you come Phil, what did you
think of afterwards?

Speaker 4 (58:27):
This is a movie that I've turned on probably seven
or eight times in my life and have never finished it,
never come to completion. Usual, he knows all about that.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I still get a lot of come in my balls.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Will Smith literally just sits in a chair and you
can tell he just sat in a chair set his lines.
He's sitting around green screens. Jaden Smith is terrible and
everything he's in in my opinion. And yeah, the movie,
the colors are gross. It's just it's not fun.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
And oh no, we can't say that in twenty twenty.
Oh wait, you said colors. I'm sorry, Hey, I heard that.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Rock.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I'm sorry. I was trying to keep us for getting canceled.
But that's just I'm almost.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Fairing the color correction here.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
I want to sit here and spout about black.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
People and yeah, it just a bleak. I'll just put
it that way. And I don't even know. I don't
even know how it ends to this day. I'm sure
I could google it, but I don't care enough to.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
You know, So you think to fix the colors in
the film, that needs to be like one ultimate final solution?
Really would you say that.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Resolution? I think is the worth?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Oh sorry, yeah, that's what I meant to fucking say.
So this this film pretty much at the time again
another big budget flop, a so Shyamalan's career was done
verty much his fill. He'd gone from making them two

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big blockbusters back to back that one of them costs
like one hundred and fifty million, the next one costs
one hundred and thirty. Both of them lost money, to
the point that Shyamalan then came back in two thousand
and fifteen with the film that had the budget of
five million dollars two thousand and fifteen's The Visit And

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also this was one of the It was very strange
and that he then was like a director for hire
and he worked with the guy. Was he called Jason
Blum The.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Guy does Blumhouse. If that's what you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yes, they made a super low budget film. I gotta
be honest, though, this is actually a pretty fucking good
It's about these two kids who have to go spend
the weekend that their grandparents' house for something like that,
and wouldn't you know it, there's mysterious stuff going on
while the kids document the thing on the phone of

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the camera. At one point, the kid gets shit smeared
in this fish by an old person. By the way,
a lot of a fun time.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
Everything that you're saying to describe this movie is what
I type into the search box on porn Hub. Kids
go to grandparents' house, shit smeared on the face. I'm
gonna have to check this out.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
No, I've never even wanted.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
And the fact that it's Blumhouse. This is the most
intriguing of all the ones that I haven't seen. I'm like, right,
I could feel like this one is at least watchable.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah, and again, a five million dollar budget almost made
a one hundred million back. This was actually a very
good one that I would recommend. But killy, you have
seen this one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I have. I thought that this was probably the most
predictable of his films. This one was one where I
think both myself and a lot of other people understood
what the twist ending was going to be. It didn't
necessarily matter because the movie still had its moment. I
would not call this an excellent movie, but I also
thought that it was perfectly reasonable it and again it

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had those moments that I was like, oh, this is
actually kind of interesting, and I'm like sucked in a
little bit. I think that sometimes, especially with Shot, I
think that, especially with Shyamalan's later films, if he was
the writer and there was a different director, that they

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could be really interesting. And that's kind of how I
started feeling about him after the visit, because I think
there's something there and it just didn't fully connect with me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
And what did you think about him in a Philly Baby?

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
I love this movie, I really do. I think that
some of the predictability mate because sometimes the Shamalan, you know,
there comes a point where with some of these movies
like Trap as Well, You're like, well, is it really
the obvious thing?

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
You know, because you don't know with him, like he
might just pull a complete you know, throw a complete
curveball at you. But I really like the film. I
just feel like the tension in it is so good.
And who doesn't like getting shit rubbed in their face?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
This guy gets it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I know we've got a new returning guest. But so again.
So that was twenty and fifteen, That was a five
million dollar budget, was a very profitable hit. So then
he quickly followed that up with the two thousand and
sixteen Split, which allegedly Shyamalan self financed for nine million,

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starring James McAvoy. It's about the story of a person
of a young girl who gets kidnapped by someone who's
got a split personality disorder, which means that they get
wind at the wrong time. I fucking loved Split. And
when you talk about legitimate shock twists, I remember seeing

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this in the cinema and I loudly yelled, i'ed holy
shit at the twist because I've got to spoil a
few Christian Yes, the twist is that Split is unbreakable too,
Oh I did know that, yes, Yeah. And when Bruce
Willis turns up at the end, and because I can't

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even remember what he says, no, maybe I've got the
Brian disease that he has.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
I'm pretty sure. He says, Yepka, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, yeppy kaye, last Airbender at this actually is a
bit in the visit with the kids who come under
the coast, visit your grandparents get ship wiled in your face? Phil,
What did you think of twenty sixteen Split? Baby?

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I love the movie, and I remember being in the
theater and when the Bruce Willis reveal happened, you know,
a bunch of people groaned and we're like, oh, that's
fucking stupid, you know, but I don't know. Me and
my wife were like, oh, you know, we started geeking out,
and yeah, I just really enjoyed it. And I like

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how who would have thought that he'd get like a
realistic grounded now in glass. It gets a little out
there as far as like this dude's abilities, like James
McAvoy for anyone spoiler alert, you know, he has these
split personalities, and I guess they how it's explained is,
you know, it can change the biology in him almost

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or whatever. So now he's like a creepy guy who
he's like Nightcrawler. Now he can crawl up walls and
then he can. He's like a little kid at one point,
and then he's like a kidnapper, then he's a sweet
guy whatever. So yeah, I don't know. It just spurned
like a whole franchise, if you will, I guess, a
trilogy of like superhero flicks that you just wouldn't you

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didn't see coming at all. And it was a good twist.
It was a grounded like it was m Night, giving
us the type of twists for you're like, you know,
not like the movie Old but where you're like, Okay,
thumbs up, this is good. You're and then you're bringing
Bruce Willis back and everybody. I don't know his original plan.
I believe you mentioned it earlier. Unbreakable was supposed to

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be a trilogy, so now he gets to revisit that,
and it worked. Finally, something worked for him, like Through
and Through. I think where most people, although people growned
in the theater I was in, I think most people
agree this is like one of his better films. But yeah,
that's my thoughts on it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, I loved it that with James mock voice. A
huge especial ability is that he has to alter the
shape of his jaw to cractly pronounce certain words in
American auction because he's fucking Scottish. Anybody watching from Scotland
them fuck you? Hey, what did you think is Split? Killy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I okay, I think that it is. I love things
that are meta, Like I love the idea that, like
the Scream Universe acknowledges Scream and that important and it
acknowledges horror films. And I love that Split was a
meta twist like that is the whole concept of this film,
and it was perfect. I love Anya Taylor Joy. She's

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in this right, M Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's her.
I love her. I think she's great. I loved that
this was, for the most part, a psychological horror film,
and we don't always get that from Shyamalan. So it's
it was exciting on multiple levels. One because I enjoyed
the twist and I thought that it was exciting and

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I had I would have had no idea that that
was coming. However, it was spoiled for me before I
actually saw this one. But it's still yeah, I know,
I was disappointed because I kind of went into it
knowing that that was what was going to happen. That
being said, it's still a great movie. Twist or no twist,
it's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
I just got to go off and aron with people
that spoil shit for other people when they go, hey,
have you seen this new movie yet?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Okay, well here's the end, and it's like, no, no,
don't tell me because I literally just said that I
haven't seen it. So the conversation has to end. Let's
talk about pornography or something like that. Let's not talk
about the story for the thing that I want to see.
That's why Wednesday I'm taking. I'm starting work late so
that I can watch the Dirt Ovel finale in the

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morning because people will ruin it though see can you
believe it? Fucking Spider Man? They get butt rapped in it?
Can you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
The dirtevel finale is not it's two weeks. It's the
week after this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
Oh well there's nine episodes, so you've taken the wrong
day off from work.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
I guess that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Sugar lumps.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
In two and nineteen we then got Technically Unbreakable three,
which was also split two two and nineteen one. Oh
I like that Glass one and this one was a
shame because Bruce. There have been rumors for a long

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time with Bruce Willis's personal health. They made this film
at least a decade too late because I think he
doesn't even walk in this one, like he just sort
of sits still in and he doesn't know what's going on.
They couldn't even put him out on the promotional trail

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for this one because he was such a fucking I
don't have invalids the right word to use, but he
just lost a lot of his speaking ability.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
It sounds like in this and again everybody knows I
haven't seen it because I said that, but it sounds
like what that final Black Sabbath Show is going to be.
Like he's gonna be Ozzie on the stage, maybe blinking
once or twice along to the songs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
That'll be a good blink, though he killy. What did
you think of twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Glass, I really enjoyed it. Again, Unbreakable to me is
kind of the height of Shyamalan. So I enjoyed the trilogy.
I enjoyed the look at superheroes. I enjoyed that superheroes
are real, and I enjoyed the bleakness of this film,
and it's exciting. I think that as a trilogy, these

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are probably his three best films.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
No good tick. Well, I didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I just thought not like it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I just thought that they made the right film too late, Like, yeah,
I love Samuel Jackson, but like he's one of his seventies,
Like you can't really be putting him in this, And
it just seemed like he was trying to make a
much bigger film, Like even though it costs like twenty
to thirty million, that's still not enough for the type
of film he was trying to make. And it looked

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shitty and it looked cheap at times, but it was
a big box oppos hit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
I don't disagree with any of them. I think that
perhaps I am so wrapped up in the idea of
how much I loved Unbreakable and Split that I probably
gave this one a little bit of a pass, Like
I was like, oh, it's still fun. I enjoy it. Hey,
what did you think of it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Old Phil old Bean, Yeah, I enjoyed it. It was
a good conclusion. Also, like you know the end to Unbreakable,
you know it you fast forward and you know you
get the payoff. Eventually with it all. And yeah, I
enjoyed the film. I'm surprised it came out three years later.
For some reason. I just felt like it came out

(01:11:37):
way quicker than that, But uh, I don't know why.
But yeah, I don't know. I enjoyed it. And yeah,
this is his best work, this trilogy right here, I
agree with Gayley on that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Well, of course, say nobody can stop Old m Night.
And in twenty twenty one he brought out a film
call Old, which again, according to reports, he financed himself.
They filmed it literally on a private island.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
This is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
This is on the island? Was it on the island
that you and me used to go to that we
don't talk about anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I thought, that's not not talking about it, you know,
I So Old is the story about a magic you
should have, say, a mystical beach, that people go on
it and start to rapidly age over the course of
what five.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
Or sex like West Palm Beach If you ask me,
it sounds like my thirtieth birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Party if you knows what I mean, prostitutes. But the
thing I remember about about Old so fondly is because
I have to say it's it's shite. But I remember
going to see it in the cinema when we were
still sort of on a restrictive lockdown.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
But this, I know, I do it too often in Ireland.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
Did the restrictive lockdown mean that you could only have
two beers in a cinema?

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Well, you're gonna love this. The cinema was so dasperate
to get people in. They had basically said, as long
as you don't literally smoke inside the theater room, you
can bring your drinks in and do whatever you want.
So shit, Yeah, I remember going in to see this
completely baked. I was drunk off my arch. I was

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sitting in a recliner chair and I was laughing my
fucking dick off, which didn't take too long. I don't
want to talk about it. This film is really bad,
but it's it's a musty because it's such it's what
do you call it? It's his weirdest, highest concept that
he's ever done. A mckilly, what did you think of it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I fucking hate this movie. I fucking hate this movie
so god damn much. I understand that ostensibly Less Stairbender
is his worst movie. However, this is my least favorite
of all of his movies. This movie was such trash
I almost turned it off. I never turn off movies.
I never ever, ever I finish. I am a completionist.

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I need to see the ending of things. It's why
I'm not a big TV show person, because I need
to see the ending, so I have to commit to
the entire thing if I'm gonna start a TV show.
And I about halfway through Old, I was like, fuck this,
fuck this, fuck this supernatural beach. What the shit is that?
The acting was goddamn horrible. This is the worst of

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all of his films. I don't agree with you at
all that it's so bad that you have to watch it.
I think it is just so bad and nobody should
ever watch it because there's nothing redeemable about Old.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I got a pretty funny comment here from a pop
culture dumpster Old as the matter for for sitting through
the movie Old. I aged fifty years during that film. Fit.
That's a funny comment. But imagine how much funny it
would be if you stand them at the five hundred
dollars super chat. That's comedy, Phil.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
What it would be really funny is if you know
everybody watching just started each kick it in like twenty
dollars maybe on Venmo stream Lab super Chat.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
I just want to jump in.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
I remember people talking about this movie and I did
sit down to watch it, and you know how on
your streaming apps, they'll start to play the trailer and
I watched it and I was like, no, I don't
trust who told me this was good, So I actually
didn't watch it. I was I was gonna break my
seal on Anti m Night Shyamalan. But Kaylee talking about it,
reminding maybe the trailer was awful.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
I watched this movie with my ex husband, who I
harted to at the time, and de hated each other.
We fucking hated each other and still Old was the
worst thing that happened to me that day. Like that movie,
it's so godda. We like bonded back together. My ex
husband and I stopped hating each other as much as
we did in order to bond over the fact that

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Old was so disgustingly horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Hey, Phil Achille maighty guy that she met within a week?

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Yeah, true, six hundred and thirty four blow chops in
five days?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Phil, What did you think of Old? This movie?

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Absolutely? It sucks. The twist at the end. I don't know,
do we spoil it? How many years ago did this
thing come out? Like a few four spoiler alert? Yeah,
so you know the lab is actually it's like a
mystical or part of me. I just jumped the lead.
There the island, there's like a lab on it, right,
and they're doing like research or they're testing. They're rapidly

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growing like fruits or something like what's going on I
don't even know, like doing it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
A testing ground for drugs, so like a where they're
doing like drug trials basically.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
So there you go, and these people are aging, yeah, rapidly,
and the actings terrible, and all of a sudden, the kid,
like one minute it's a kid, the next minute she's
got tits. I don't know what's going on. Pass for
me a terrible movie.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Okay, it doesn't sound like it's all bad, Phil, you
just got Kristen in It does circle back to the
island that I'm still not allowed to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Yeah, Kaylee's ex marriage sounds more interesting than dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
I fuck this movie. I fucking hate Old. There are
not a lot of movies where I just feel actively
angry when I think about them. Old is one of them,
and water World is one of them. But other than that,
there's really not a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
Kaylee, let me ask you a quick question, because I
know you're Which one would you rather do? Watch Old,
listen to an Aerosmith album from beginning to end? Or
have attended that Great White Show that you almost went
to where one hundred people were burned alive?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Do I survive the Great White Show? You do not?
Oh no, I have to choose death over Oh God.
I pick Aerosmith. But I am drinking heavily while listening.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
Yeah, that's fair. That's what I did when I listener Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Well, Old was a hit, and this is at a
time where Shyamalan really starts seeming to just start churning
stuff right like every other year he's get something coming out,
and weirdly, the bigger names well not even bigger names
at all. Don't know why I said that, but people
seem to be quick to want to work with him.
So in two thousand and twenty three, Not at the

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Cabin cheme out starring one Dave Batista who went method
for whatever region and stopped working out and put on
a lot of weird for it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Phil, Before you guys talk about this movie, I'm just
going to tell you that I'm I have not seen
this one. I am going to zone out the entire
time because I actually do to see this movie and
I personally do not want any spoilers, including the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
Fact that they watch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna completely ignore everybody for a minute here. Apologies.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Okay, so we'll watch spoilers in this one.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
But this is it's not the first time that we
three guys have been in a room where a woman's
completely ignoring enough, so I think it's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
It's correctly where we've all been surrounding her too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Oh she took it up to Yes, So this is
a film. This is not a spoiler, but it's appoint
a family that is taken hostage by a cult who
tell them that they have to make a sacrifice or else.
If one of the family doesn't die, then the whole
world will die. So there you go, Phil, You, of course,

(01:19:51):
to the host of the show Pro Wrestle Times on
the YouTube, this starts at Dave Batista would like spoilers?
What did you think of this one?

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I love it?

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
I actually really liked this movie and Kaylee's doing the
right thing by ducking out until she can see it
for herself. I like the play on the religious stuff,
which I don't think you can gather that. I think
from the trailer and the short synopsis there that usually
gave it. And Batista the superior wrestler turned actor, I

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will say, out of the whole lot, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
More than Hulk Hogan. That's the craziest thing I've ever
heard of.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Stanta with muscles out there, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Yeah, No, I think this is surprisingly good, but unfortunately
it wasn't that much of a head it had. It
only made fifty three million, which I thought was I
don't know if that's because maybe people were getting tired
of Shyamalan's shit, you know, if people were like, fuck this,
I'm not going to see this, or maybe it was

(01:20:54):
deemed woke that stupid fucking tag line because it just
so happens that there's a there's a ge character in it. Yeah,
but this is a film that I thought was really good.
It's unpredictable, and they again, Batista's fucking good in this,
Like he can actually act even though he's he's got

(01:21:16):
both talks on his lips and I don't like his
social media politics. Yeah, well that's that's another thing. Batista
is a very preachy guy on social media, so maybe
he thought people just people thought, oh fuck him. But anyway,
last year came out a twenty twenty four his Trap,

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starring a what's the guy called Josh Hartnett? Josh?

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Some would say Josh Hotnet? Am I right, Kayley?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
What yes said in the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
Well, yeah, not anymore? No, no, no, no, yeah, this
isn't that Josh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Have you seen this one, Killy? I have?

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
I just watched this the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Okay, well, I'm gonna have to go with the sort
of a hot take on this one. I think that
the first half of this film is the greatest thing,
and like Samalan's ever done, I think that the idea
of it and especially this was different than The Twisters
revealed at the start. For those who haven't seen it,

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it's about the police have tracked on this serial killer
to this concert while this guy's taking his bullied daughter
to go see whatever the pop singers called The Twisters?

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Can I interject for a second. Sorry, The whole thing
is a sting operation, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
So yeah, so the Twister is revealed within the first
act that the dad is the serial killer who they've
brought to the show, So he then becomes a word
that the place is surrounded by police, that they're not
letting anyone leave, so he then is trying to figure
out ways to escape while this really good concert by

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this cut bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
In this country, it's pronounced Lady Raven.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
Lady.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
I think that we can all agree that the entire
point of this film was to be a mechanism to
skyrocket m Night, Shyamalan's daughter's musical career.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
Lady ray one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Yeah, who is Lady Raven? The concert? Lady to Lady k.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Well, let's not get crazy, but I should be.

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
Okay, I feel like Phil's trying to get something out
and Kaylee keeps interrupting, no, no, I no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
I just I agree fully, like this was just like
here's her bad acting and bad music.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
You got anyone want to buy in?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
Yeah, I agree with Hughsey in that I think that
the first two acts of this movie are actually perfect.
And I was talking about how I hadn't seen it
in my Shyamalan movie in literal decades, and I saw
the trailer for this, and each time that I would
see it, I'm like, you know, that actually looks kind
of good.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
I like this idea.

Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
I feel like this could work, and the idea, the
concept does work up until he sets foot out of
the arena. At that point it all falls apart because
all we care about is, yeah, how the fuck is
he going to get out of this arena?

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
Is he going to be able to?

Speaker 6 (01:24:27):
And I think that as bad as her singing is,
it's really when his daughter has to start acting that
the movie just starts to unravel in a hurry, because
technically they're not out of the arena at that point,
they're still backstage.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
And yeah, it's when they get backstage that it's all over. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Yeah, And I hear the beat like the stickler for realism.
But I'm kired of these films and TV show set
a concerence where two people go off and talk in
this volume while the show's going on, instead of, you know,
I don't know, act as if the room was lied.
Maybe that's just crazy. Old derisis huge, But Phil, what

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did you think of trap?

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
Well, here's the one thing, right, Like, isn't the whole
concept like and not to spoil the whole thing. But
the whole show is set up to catch this guy specifically, right,
like she's it the singer knows about the guy beforehand
or whatever, and so and so I don't know, just
again to nitpick it, like when he's backstage and all

(01:25:28):
this stuff, it's just I feel like DYD have zeroed
in on him, and it just gets a little silly
towards the end. I agree. And then and then his
daughter was just horrendous in it, through and through and
but Josh Hartnett is like picking up roles I think
now because of this movie. I mean, he gave a
great performance, you know, but yeah, I thought this was,

(01:25:48):
like you guys said, the first two acts were great,
and then yeah, his daughter comes in and just takes
a steaming shit on the entire thing.

Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
But Josh Hartnett's so great, I mean, just because he's
usually likable in him movie and you know, he like
has to excuse himself to go to the bathroom so
he can jerk off to the webcam that's on the
guy he's holding hostage and a place that gets figured
out really easily.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
And the bad part of this movie they go home
and his wife is.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
There, you know that whole thing, and there's like a
there's like a slight moment where you're like, oh, his
wife knew.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
And told the police that he was going to be
at this concert. That's how they knew.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
Because that was nagging in the back of my mind
of like, well, how did they know that? But the
movie was so far off the rails by the time
you get that, it's not even that interesting. I don't
think I'm ever going to trust a trailer again. I
only went based on the trailer for this. So based
on the trailer, I thought that this was gonna be good.
And for the first hour, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
Like, God, damn it, he made a good movie. But
he didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:26:49):
He stopped making a good movie. And then there was
a there was a whole nother canister of film that
they had to show us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
What did you think of Achille?

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I actually really enjoy Trap. I thought that this movie
was great. I want to talk for a moment of
We talked a little bit about Shyamalan's cameos in films,
and he does have a cameo in this, and I
thought that it was his best cameo ever, specifically because
this is a movie where he knew that he was

(01:27:19):
going to get criticized for a nepotism higher of having
his daughter be so heavily featured as this amazing pop
star in this film. And then he in the movie
is the cameo of a NEPO hire, so like he
is a like a cousin or something of one of
the like Lady Raven, whatever the I don't know how

(01:27:41):
to describe him, but he is. I thought that that
was super clever. It was funny to make like the
meta joke again of like this is a NEPO higher
on a NEPO higher situation. I thought that was super funny.
I think I agree with what everybody has said. Absolutely,
the first two thirds of this movie are outstanding. I
was on the edge of my seat, and Phil, I

(01:28:03):
think that you mentioned this much earlier, because at this
point in Shyamalan's career, we are all waiting the twist ending.
I wasn't actually sure if this was a straight laced
plot and I was really learning that this guy was
in fact the killer, or if I was if I

(01:28:25):
was the one being trapped and I'm being tricked and
this whole thing is a trip, And so I actually
was surprised even though it was such a straight laced film.
You know, it was great. I really enjoyed this. I
was expecting to hate it, and I really enjoyed it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
I actually would recommend it to Spike the third act,
but it overall, but I love this one. And they
choose you that the positive side of Shade of Killers.
They may kill strangers, but they love the kids. There
you go.

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
Well, that's what they've said about BTK, you know, is
that he was He would always be at the little
league game and the dance recital, you know, despite what
he was up to after hours.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
It's just the nice person. So what we're going to do.
We're going to end the poll. Does m Night Seamalan
Stink and the Revolts? The Revolts. The results are of
the votes sixty seven percent yes, which is a shame
because a minute ago it was sixty nine percent yes,
and that would have been hilarious. But yeah, I loved it.

(01:29:31):
And his next film he's got coming up as a
Jack jell Iimhall film called Remain sounds exciting. We're all pumped.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
See yeah, we'll obviously watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
I can't wait to talk about three of you about
it after I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Exactly well, speaking of things you did not see, Christian,
what plugs do you have for everybody?

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:29:58):
I mentioned earlier that I do hope everybody checks out
overrom my personal podcast, The Black Cast.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
On Friday, I did an.

Speaker 6 (01:30:06):
Episode with Kaylee and Hughesy and Trucker Andy talking about
Val Kilmer. We did spend a lot of time talking
about top Secret, and an awful lot of time about
Warwick Davis and surprisingly how Liam Neeson can be very
funny and Hughsey hates Ricky Gervais. So there's a lot
that we learned there. And of course, if you want

(01:30:28):
to talk about shows that people do watch in record numbers,
who are These Broadcasters? Every Tuesday at two pm Eastern
on the Who Are These Podcasts YouTube channel, and you
can get it as an audio podcast wherever audio podcasts
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Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
But Phil, any plugs or inside scoop you can give
us for Superman.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
No, sir, No can do. But what I can do
is plug my pro wrestling live show aview on YouTube
every Monday, Wednesday and Saturday Pro Wrestle Times Live show
and podcast. And I also have a YouTube channel that
I just started called film marks out where I'm just

(01:31:34):
I'm talking more about pop culture, you know, YouTube, drama movies.
I'm a big comic book geek myself, and so yeah,
I'm a big fan of that stuff, and I'm like
reviewing Daredevil and things like that over there. And I'm
a big fan of everyone on this panel. So pleasure
to be here, Husy, thanks for having.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Me and Killy the real star of this show.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
What is what?

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Not only are yours, but what is the Tuesday upload
we're getting on once over with Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
That's a great question. I literally realized about twenty minutes ago.
I have no idea what I'm gonna upload for Tuesday,
and I should have done something on Friday. There are
a couple of options. One is possibly Happy Birthday to
Me the slasher film. Oh, and two are possibly some
movie halls, so we will find that out. There will
be something posted on Once Over with Kaylee where I

(01:32:26):
do movie reviews right after we get off of doing
this because I need to do that immediately. In addition
to that, you can look at all my other movie
reviews on Once Over with Kaylee. Christian has been there,
Hughesy Is has been there and is coming back up
again soon for Cloverfield, probably at the end of April.
And Phil, I hope to have you on one day.
Let's do it and also find me on go Ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
No, no, go ahead, I thought you were done.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
I have so many plugs. No, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
And you haven't even talked about dabble House and Hackemania
where you're gonna see me and that's yeah, and I'm
gonna you eat butter, which sounds really dirty but it's
actually not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Well, it's gonna be dirty for somebody, So I think
we should just fuck Kaylee.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
Is that yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
I'm in Let's go. I like that you have mostly
your reaction to that Dabblehouse Dablehouse. Go to Dabblecon Dot
Live and get tickets to Dablehouse Friday for eleven and
Saturday for twelve, we are going to be doing who
Are These Podcasts? Uncle Rico's show. It's gonna be amazing

(01:33:31):
and all the tapes. Ticket prices are going up this week,
so if you want to get tickets, you should absolutely
do that sooner rather than later. In addition to that,
hacka Mania Live in Las Vegas May ninth through the eleventh,
I will be there with who Are These Podcasts? And
I will also be on the last hour episode of
A Weird Medicine with Doctor Steve, which is both a
blessing and brings me great sorrow to say, and also

(01:33:55):
Murder Game podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:33:56):
Well you left out the promo code promo code m
Night Shan Alan for Hackemania no promo code, Kayley.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Yes, yeah, do that or come I like it when
people use to come more.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
I do like.

Speaker 6 (01:34:09):
I do like that Cardiff's promo code has come. And
Phil by mentioning that you're a big comic book nerd,
there's about eight shows that I do that I'm gonna invite.

Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
You on, so get ready for that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
I absolutely will and Hughsy to answer your question at
the top of the show. I figured it out the
m and m Night Shamalan is for meta. There you go, guys,
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
There you go. I'm gonna go figure it away to
watch the Sacred Life of N Night Shyamalan, which you
find on the tube right now. But I'm also a
anyone listen to this audio version. The next episode will
be a break down of the Opie and Jim Norton
fight video that has been uploaded and going viral on YouTube,

(01:34:53):
and any anyone catching this live, I'm actually going to
be live streaming that episode later on tonight in about
a five and a half ours, So tune in in
and be sure to drop the N word in the
comments because I can't say it as much as I
want to. Night you know, M night.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Chat That's what I'm talking about course.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
So thanks everybody for watching. We're gonna do a big
wave night. On the twist is I was never recording
the whole time.

Speaker 8 (01:35:28):
Hello, Hughsy It's Tony from Once Over with Kaylee and
your own show. I just wanted to congratulate you on
your new surround sound subwifer for your home cinema with
the electric recliner chairs and four K HD screen that's
nine by seven feet wide. I heard the only thing

(01:35:48):
better than your home cinema is the laughter you bring
to others twenty four to seven.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
I wish I was Hughsy, I am t D S
and I am the.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I'm tedious and I M D you bitch go okay.
Thank you, Christian Killey and Phil And that's right that
you may have heard within the episode. The next will
be a breakdown of the night infamous Opie versus Jim Norton,
feud with the Great Chaster and maybe some other guests

(01:36:25):
with us. We will see and you will hopefully see.
And here remember with hugely entertainment on YouTube and you're
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