ep. 230: Vince Russo vs Konnan & Disco Inferno

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
It is hugey Hello everybody, and yes this is a
post Oasis show. I'm recording this on augusty. Well, it
is the twenty first, and I just went to say
Oasis on the seventeenth. It is a new me. The
world has changed, and I'm already miserable. I have PTSD
from not getting to see my practice Oasis again. I

(00:48):
have nothing to look forward to. What am I going
to do? But anyway, since I was away at Oasis
and taking a couple of days off, I couldn't help
but notice on Twitter that there was endless personal battles
going on between the great disc going Fernough and previous
multiple time guests of the show, Vince Rousseau. They've been

(01:12):
friends for a long long time twenty thirty years, but
it seems like they've unfortunately had taken a turn for
the worst and their few get very personal, very well,
maybe not personal, but get pretty harsh, pretty heavy, and
unfortunately we tends to happen with these types of disagreements

(01:33):
is other people get dragged into it. Conan get dragged in,
Joe Feeney, get dragged in Ben Hamin, Jeff Lyne. And
so what I did today was I was setting up
an episode to analyze the the clips of the arguments
and stuff, and I had a Jeff Lyne joined me,

(01:55):
and Ben Hamen joined me. I had said to Joe,
I don't know if he got the matchage on time,
but he couldn't join us. We'd have been good if
he did. But I'm sure I'll keep the one hundred.
We will get to hear their replies more often. I
think this went pretty well. I think it was a
kind of a more lighthearted analysis of the few. This

(02:18):
is not like picking side, just stirring the shit. So
hopefully it all works itself out soon. And what is
that background music you hear right now? Why it is
My Master's Hand by Bruce Springstein from his recent box
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the whole thing, I wish most of those albums were
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the thing. And by the thing, I meant to say
the recording so oh and I forgot to say. We
were also joined by Phil Marx, who is of course
the host of Pro Wrestling Times, the rapidly growing news
review show for the pro wrestling world, and also the
host of Film marks Out, the film and TV and

(03:47):
media review show. But anyway, we're not gonna go straight
into the segment. We're gonna say Ben Jeff and Phil.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh Juicy stumbled through the door.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Glassy eyes whiskey bread that screamed out loud in far
he was the crowd.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Storm is lying off his tongue songs and battles.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Not standing every said another sail. He never failings like
jersey flies.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Raising some.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Juy les.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Wrestling stinks. It's fucking boring. The obstection over it is.
Can't he there? You go? Ive already got in trouble
with YouTube. That's Shirley in to the show. But what's
not born about pro wrestling is the real life drama
from it. Should I say unreal? But seriously, let's go

(05:10):
on with it. Quite recently, over the last few days,
there's been a a few that has brewed or blown
up whatever the term is between Vince Rush is the
brand and the show that I control what should I
say edit for Keep Them one hundred hosted by Conan

(05:31):
Disco Inferno, and it's been quite excellent and hilarious as
a fan to watch it. And we're going to analyze
the clips of the few today and the first person
we're going to bring to the stage is the lovely
Jeff Layne. Jeff, how you doing today?

Speaker 6 (05:47):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Man?

Speaker 8 (05:48):
Liddle diddle with you? Wibbley wobbles?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And the other person that one of the few dirt
sheet shows that I actually watched, the great Phil Marksville.
How you do today?

Speaker 9 (06:01):
Well, Bro, let me tell you, Bro, I am for one.
Let me tell you, Bro, I just I swear to God,
hand to God. Bro, I am excited for that. No,
I'm just kidding, dude. I'm excited to be here. Thanks
for having me. I'm gonna ref this thing we'll call
it as I see it. I'm right down the middle.
I know you guys both have your sides.

Speaker 8 (06:21):
Yes, you certainly did having a quick wank.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
There we'll go. So, as I've mentioned don, as you
can see below, I've just come back from seeing Oasis,
which cost me a minimal one thousand plus over the
course of a weekend. So that's all plus. And not
to brag, but I'm going to Northern Island Comic Con

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in about a week or two weeks, and I have
bought some photographs to see it with some people like, oh,
I don't know Christopher Lambert okay, oh, and somebody called it, yeah,
I don't know Jake the snack Roberts. And I'm also
going to get a photograph with that's right, Christopher Lloyd

(07:10):
for Back to the Future. Okay, So if anybody wants
to add to the funds to help shaeve my potential bankruptcy,
there we go. But if not, hey, you're all victims,
and I'm the bully, and I'm the bully that I
say I'm being bullied. That's what I should have said, So, Jeff,

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before we get started on this clip of the Great
the Vincu shoe YouTube, Vinceuue Shoe's brand. Tell me what
your side of this issue that's going on.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
Well, to me, it's not disliking anybody. I don't dislike
any of those guys. My issue was there was an
episode of Keeping It one hundred where I'm gonna probably
miss quote some people here, so take my memory with
a grain of salt, but the basis synopsis was Disco

(08:07):
asked Joe Feeni what the what Vince's popularity or approval
rating is something along those lines, and Joe gave his opinion,
and then he went into about hearing from in a
Facebook group people canceling and then talking about, well, if
we've lost one hundred members and that's five bucks, we're down,

(08:30):
you know, speculating numbers, we're down five hundred dollars a month.
And I didn't like that. I felt like that was
trying to get out a narrative that we were losing
listeners or something along those lines. So when our business,
like especially with people you think you're cool with and
you've done things with and that you've put over before,
when they start talking a negative perception of you, and

(08:54):
like me getting my bills paid, I didn't like that.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
That bothered me.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And for the record, I I've also sent the link
to Joe just in case he's available, because this is
this is not really a boy and let's fucking have
a big feud type thing. Bin Hamen isn't the child
asking for the link, so I will send it to him.
But while I'm sending it to Lovely Toally, hey, bro,

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you don But of course, Phil you sort of an outsider,
And as I'm sending this link to the lovely bin Hamin,
why don't you tell us your opinion of this feud
that is blown up over the last few days.

Speaker 9 (09:42):
Well, to be honest, when I first saw Disco and
Russo sort of throwing down online, I thought they were
just kind of like working everybody, to be perfectly honest,
it wasn't until Hughes that you informed me like, no,
there might you know, there might be producer Bee feven
or whatever. So honestly, I just thought we were getting
shoot work like work shoot marks brothers.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Yeah, I can tell you, at least from our side,
And I've been with Vince through the brand for over
ten years now and we've never done one worked thing
in that time.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
M hm, yes, So It's basically it is real, and
it's just it's kind of odd to see because Vince
is usually pretty appable, but at the same time, having
spoken to Disco, he can be tough work like he's

(10:42):
fucking like he's like, well, I can you know the thing?
And that's it's like it's like, well, what what Like
I'm one of the things. I did see a criticism
of Disco and taken all my opinions from the YouTube
comments section where somebody said that Disco gets stuck in
a ring loop and people say the same stuff every time,

(11:04):
like like Vince, just like I didn't think it was
a good match.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
What you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Your tube numbers are good and they do this and
it's like, yeah, but that's not the point. You're you're
talking about a different thing to what he dismantined. But anyway,
we're going to start this lovely clip here from the
Fabulous YouTube channel by Vince Russo and tell well, tell
me when the pauldge fell or Jeff if you'd like

(11:29):
to comment on anything here.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Okay, guys, yeah, just I think to set this up.
This was after the second clip that we had heard
from Keeping It one hundred, where the somebody had written
in and said they were canceling because Vince had said
that Rhea Ripley isn't over and Vince has been putting

(11:56):
her over is over and had a clip where he
was confus is that she's the most over woman on
the roster. Why they only put her in you know,
fifteen second backstage thing and h I think that's all
the context you need for this one. I think the
rest of it plays out on video.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And Ben, I sent it to your Twitter if if
you're looking for the thing. But yeah, so a more
important issue to fall out over in this day and
the age. We've got the invasion of these immigrants. We've
got Palestine versus Ukraine and I it's over rare Ripley

(12:36):
being over or not, whether it was said like and
I know which one takes the priority, right guys, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Russo's brand dot com where the pros are the pros.
We're gonna listen to the clip, you're gonna look at
the AI artwork of me, and then I am going.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
To I'm not trying to brag, but we've got a
real one and just joined this backstage, the lovely Ben Hamaine. Ben,
how are you doing today.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I love sheep.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'm good man, just been enjoying my day off doing
a lot of work for Ravens Joint. But yeah, it's
weird to be uh, the prettiest girl at prom caught
up in the middle of this ship that I didn't
even know what was going on. I wake up and
you know, they say the worst thing in wrestling is
when no one's saying your name. Well, mine was getting
kicked around plenty, so good bad of the ugly man.

(13:40):
I'm just here to maybe add my perspective and people
can take it for what it's worth and bury me
and d M disco about it. Yes, but I wanted
to say thanks to Jeff for going to bat for me,
and you know, like when I saw that clip, so
you know, definitely wanted to shout you out. Dude. I
saw this was going on, so I figured, why I

(14:01):
do hear say when I'm happy to talk openly and
honestly about anything.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah, that's awesome. He got put into the middle of
it because he just you'll you guys will hear it
in the clip, but he just kind of gets brought
up in the middle of all this other other stuff
and things took off from there.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
But let's talk about the more important issue. Ben you
manchin having the day off? How many times did you
flog your dolphin on what over?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh not yet, Man, Probably I was gonna and then
I saw you were going live. So now I just
took my pants off and I'm just this is gonna
be my pre workout for that. So yeah, man, just
a day off from selling cannabis at Raven's joint, you
know what I mean. So then it's gonna be hardcore.
This week I went the State Fair, so I'm just
gearing up for the next two days of work.

Speaker 8 (14:51):
The peachy beachy bum Daddy Dragon.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Address what they said in the clip, and I am
gonna address other topics, and one of those topics is guys. Honestly,
I don't know if I could do a show with
disco anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And just to pause here, I forgot to mention there
is a poll in the chat and who's writing this
feud between the Coin and a Disco and Vince Russo,
and so far Vince Rusho's winning the poll. He get it.
The poll and the poll. We're having a great time,
the four of us. Somebody should cut that part and
we'll watch it litter more.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I'm just being honest with you, guys, bro I
pay this dude.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
This dude is on my payroll. He gets money from
me the first of every single month. And I constantly,
constantly am on the promo end of.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
These two guys. And I'll be honest with you, I'm
tired of it. I don't think it's funny.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
I never we Jeff and I never bring them up
on our show.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
We never degrade them on our show.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
And we do.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
It's we're always laughing at Conan, yelling at Disco exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
We never ever bring up them or.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I get a question for the group. When we been
on this one, it's known that a Conan has health issues,
yet Disco has worked hard to drive him fucking mental.
Do you think that Disco may be trying to un
alive Conan.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Is so wise? I mean, what's the purpose so we
can have the show all to himself? Or is there
a triple A component where he takes over as head
of creative. But you know, I think there's an NXT
component with the Las Vegas stuff and being boots on
the ground there, and like any good worker. There should be.
If there's opportunity, you're gonna do what needs to be done.

(16:50):
But I hope k dog, you know, kidney health and
all that is a tough thing. And if he's looking
for a place, but I hope it happens for him, man,
because he's got a lot on his plate that he's
been working for for ten twenty years building that tripa
a brand and now it's got a lot of spotlight
on it. And it takes a lot audio, boy, and
especially if you're not feeling well, even if you're in

(17:12):
good health, it takes a lot audio. So I hope
he's not trying to kill him. But everybody wants a spot.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I actually have a live footage of Conan finding like
what a disco wants to do to him, and Conan said.

Speaker 8 (17:27):
This is what the.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, so you know, but here, yeah, here's the footage
of of course the state the disco can put conon
in two of them is this one.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, he's good at pushing buttons, man, I think there's
a bigger component, Like, I know you're trying to do
a bit, so forgive me if I'm cutting off your
final punchline. All lay out, but you know, like this
is ony ass wrestling between two friends in the business,
or you know what you thought was your friend, I
guess is the way things kind of took an ugly

(18:06):
turn today and instead of just going, yeah, man, we
played something incorrectly, which they did, they did a retraction thing, right,
like all good and like we love Benjamin or whatever
and really respect me. But Jeff points out that you know,
he's burying me on one hand, and then on the
other side, it's like, but we respect him. Well, if

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guys are on WW are allegedly burying me to him
in DMS, are you turning around and going, no, you
got it wrong about this guy, like like he is
a smart dude and fucking that out? Or is it
you just agree with him, Yeah, he's a piece of shit,
but we respect him, Like which of that is it?
And when it comes to what happens between grown men

(18:49):
like my seniors and this shit my big brothers, the
higher up mafia members than me, that it can get
to this point over what somebody not wanting to admit
they're wrong about something or see the other person's point
of view, and then you just keep needling and pressing
that button, Like, there's way more important things, man, So

(19:09):
your life can be you can be somebody can be
gone tomorrow. And then what you had an argument over
a thumbnail that said Raya Ripley isn't over because it's
a bunch of asshole marks reported it like life's way
too precious for that. But you know, Disco kind of
did like apologize for saying they're wrong because they read
some mailbag thing as fact and it was just a

(19:32):
quick bit. So I understand it's not like the end
of the end. I'll be all from some fan and
that causes the heat. But now two guys are not
going to be friends for it and do a show
and produce and make art together over this because Disco
then doubles down and goes But I still believe he
doesn't know anything about the business. I'm going, why can't

(19:55):
you just let it go and take it out and
be like, dude, this means nothing. Why would I heard
our friendship. I don't understand how things get carried out
to this high level of Tony Soprano level feud ship.
You know what I mean. It's crazy to me, so
I don't say it.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Tony soprano because Disco is a.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
M knows greasy wop points.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
He also took back the apology because he found a
quote where Vince said it three years ago.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Why let go, Jeff, what is it as him as
a man is his own I don't want to say shortcoming,
you know what I mean, But like.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
Why I don't know that, you know, Yeah, I don't.
I don't. I don't know him, you know, like Vince
or any of you guys. Dude, My only interactions with
Disco is when we used to do the show and
the ten minutes before the show, because he didn't stick
around ten minutes after the show.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
So I don't.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
I don't really know, you know what what goes on
in his head. But sometimes it just seems like feelings
aren't his thing.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yes, yeah, I think that's a good way to put it,
Like you can't accept and vocalize and has to be
right or it just has to get a shot in
instead of we get to the line of reckoning and
instead of coming together and good brother and we're not.
When I got to hang out with him in Vegas,
he was a plus to me.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
When I went over to Sapphires and just shot the
shit in the back for two hours man, and he
was so hospitable. We had a great time, and I
didn't get that vibe. But here it is where he
can drive Conan nuts, he can drive Vince nuts, you
know what I mean. And like you had brought up
in the rebuttals of the straw Man argument, that's exactly

(21:39):
what he does. He just reframes the rules of the
debate like any good debater should, but it doesn't answer
the same questions of what it is. And then when
somebody calls you stupid, you don't know how to do business,
you know, to the metrics, I'm like, well, I have
six LLCs that are all profitable, so I think I
know a little something about business. I've been doing this

(22:00):
for twenty years. And just because some nameless, faceless mark
fucking writes an email mail bag that can hurt a
friendship and people's credibility, it just doesn't equal out to me,
you know what I mean. That's what saddens me about
being in the middle of something like this. But it's
so nice to have everybody say my name.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And just as the quick follow up, here here's the
other time that a disco almost Conan into reach every
fucking day and everything.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
We don't finish a question.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
And when I said, when I said the clips we
talk about and laugh at, it was those two that,
like that's all we talk about them on the show
is we laugh at Sorry, we laugh at Conan yelling
at Disco like that, or you know, just playful stuff,
but we always put them over the way.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Maybe just goes a genius and he sorry to cuts
down there. Maybe Disco's a genius. He knows that Conan
needs a shot of adrenaline to stay a eyes, so
he just keeps the song. You're driven by anger, you
know what I mean. But the dog doesn't.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
Oh sorry, I was gonna say the way Conan's dog
doesn't even react.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
You know. He does that ship all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, especially when he's having sex with it.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
But I think that with sometimes Disco, and I know
this is going to sound silly, but it's like he's
always working the gimmick, so he'll say stuff simply to
create show content. Because I remember it used to be
on Sunday nights, Disco would say something completely ridiculous where

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he would just randomly tweet out like I don't know,
like all some omans need to be fired from from
whatever company they're in, and he would turn his phone off,
wake up, and then he's got like seven hundred matches.
Look at these comments. I got to meet in March.
I worked them and there there's like a whole fucking
twenty minute enter the show. So there's a chance he's

(24:03):
joking about that stuff been mostly because I don't believe
that anyone would have the opportunity to fully bury him
to you, because he would interrupt them midway through.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's a good point.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
That's a good point for.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Sure, their show or their audience in a negative light
on this show we've never had, and I'm getting pretty
tired of it to the point of, you know what,
bro may maybe I need to stop paying Disco and
doing shows with Disco because if I don't, then I'm

(24:37):
gonna look like an absolute idiot because it gets to
the point where enough is enough. And I'm going to
show you through this clip of exactly what I'm talking about.
So Jeff, you could you could start it wherever you want.
Guys they asked me to come on the show.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I just would say that whoever made that thumb
nil probably has a dick the size of the pink
panther's tail. I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
And I first said to them, they wanted me and
Ben to go on the show. And I first said
to them, you guys freaking insult Ben Hamin. You insult
him on your show. Now you want me to ask
him to go on your show. That's kind of you know,
that's kind a little whacka do to me. You say,

(25:28):
the guy's got no credibility, the guy never did anything,
and now you want me to ask him to come
on the show.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So Jeff.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
At that point, Ben said to me, Vince, I got
no problem.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
What'soever going on their show? So I wrote back to.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Joe Feeni and I said, Joe, I'm gonna be honest
with you. Ben doesn't have a problem coming on your show.
I said, what is the point of coming on your
show when you can never get a word.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
In edgewise with Disco?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
For bro on my own show, I can't get a
word in with with Disco. So we're gonna get into
a conversation and when I want to respond, Disco's gonna
laugh and cut me off. And I'm gonna sit here
and I'm gonna get frustrated and I'm gonna get pissed
off because that's what Disco always does.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Something.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Yes, my love Gay, Sorry, I just wanted to ask,
so you guys would probably know better than I. Why
don't Disco and Vince hop on the air and hash
it out, like wouldn't that do really good views and
numbers for them?

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Or do just like russo, just not give a shit
about that.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Well, they've they've done that because they were doing a
show on our network called Time Out and they ended
up a lot of the stuff that Disco brings up
in their clip here about the metrics and the social
media and the WW numbers. They've been arguing about that
for months, but this one, I believe, it's my guess
would be because this is personal when Vince's business is

(27:02):
being talked about in a negative perception, is being pushed
there about it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
And but but you are right the evention Disco went
live and did did would do fucking grid numbers because
it's because well we're all Marks and she and like
old w c W people still arguing. It's kind of

(27:31):
fucking hilarious when you see it.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, but you have to understand because you see it
from the outside of what the bubble is. But a
lot of reason though that Disco probably acts the way
he does, is because when he was a soldier early
on in the mafia of wrestling, you have to act
like this and no sell everything and rib and try
and tune people up to get him to break to
fucking that just get heat on him. This is a

(27:55):
weird part of wrestling that fans can't don't understand that
pressure like that doesn't go down at normal nine to
five jobs, bro, So he's kind of conditioned to that,
you know. And and to go against it is to
go against your nature of the ribbon, and they wanted
on K one hundred to do that. And Vince lays
out with Jeff in many ways of why he doesn't

(28:17):
want to go on there to be interrupted, to be
strong man, to protect me, and I mean, I have
no problem. I'm fine to talk openly, and it's an
opportunity for prote my businesses, so you know, like that's
a no brainer for me. But he's just at the
point of frustration where he's tired of being laughed at

(28:38):
when he brings up a point, and why go on
there to do that? What's even weirder is twin Jeff
lanes next to each other, Like that's weird.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
On this And I guess I would a different hat if.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Totally addressed the same weird inception, so that it's they
want to do it, and they even like Disco said
to bring Razorfist, which I just got to lay out
at that point, like it's it's a collaborant time, as
somebody once said, because that guy lives to cut rage
promos on people and he does it like a true

(29:13):
assassin bro more heater than I can never pull, really.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
So.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
The opportunity is there. I was scheduled three times and
they rebooked it and now it's just kind of in limbo.
But if it's creating content and drawing numbers, then that's
also what we're here to do, as well as entertain
the fans, I guess. And it's not a work by
any means, I don't think, not on my end anyway.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
But Vince makes a good point to bite the disco
speaking over people, because when K one hundred gets a
gassed on, it usually goes about fifty minutes or thirty minutes.
When Dave Meltzer came on with like disc go it
was a five hour long appearance.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
So well, you know, Hughesy, I you know, I tried
to at down Brian.

Speaker 10 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah, Well the thing is, it's hard to enjoy
WW and you've got a half a mouthful of kumba
shorting around your teeth, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
So what is the point? What is the point? That's
exactly what he's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
He's right all the time. Everybody else is wrong. Vince
is wrong. Vince doesn't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
There's no point there. Glenn has not learned in podcasting, Jeff.
I don't know how many years he's been doing it.
Glenn has not learned, Jeff. It's you go, I go,
you go, I go, you go, I go. That's how
it is, Bro. You can listen to any one of
my shows. That's how it is. So I said to Joe, Joe,

(30:45):
I really don't want to come on the show because
there's no point to it that you can never get
a word in with edgeways. They twisted that into I
didn't want to go on the show because they've very Binhamen.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Okay, guy, what's up?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
K one hundred? I mentioned the patron that recently canceled
my subscription to Russ's Brain.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
After years, real real quick, Joe, didn't you ask Woods
sort of come on the show and he said that no,
because Ben Hayman was mad.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
And then you talked to Ben Haymon.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Right there, Joe asked me.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Juicy Drops TM challenges.

Speaker 9 (31:25):
Juicy Drop break everyone, Juicy drops in the chest, get
me Juicy.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Drop one part that ended up getting cut out of
that because it was like a repeat thing. I played
something twice when Vince said, all right, Jeff, go ahead,
start the video wherever you want. And I started it
and he goes, you're gonna start it there? You said
wherever I want?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Just before we got back in a few super task
to catch up on, which means, of course, get it
for the toe box. That's this two dollars is for Jeff,
I get it right to Wrestling Soup became a member.

(32:08):
Of course, said that I'm a big star and that's
why my friend is here behind me. I'm having a
good time, and of course see thanks for the turn
from Wrestling Soup shout shout out in love all around.
That turns like two good songs. If you ask me,
they'll be on the next Bridge Springsteen album and I
can't wait lots of drama as a f lit Corny

(32:32):
and his art guy you are undertaking in his former
hosting This is everyone on the rag. I like to
think so yeah, I love to say the word hunt,
so I like to assume everybody has one. And there
we go. Thanks for the toe box from Dan from
Nice Podcast Stupid. Just thought I had doctor's real name.

(32:55):
Rey is over. I is over a huge eu over.
Will you know what? Hey? You just got yourself blocked them.
I'm going to report your children's school to a bunch
of PDFs. How do you think about that? And another one?
Thanks for the toe bogs down for Nice Podcast Stupid.

(33:16):
That's his real name? Hey usually bring up bring up
Cody Roads's disco tweet that fuck Cody Roads. Do you
know he's he's gonna play We call him Gile in
the Next Street Fighter. He can't even pronounce sonic boom?
Why is he going to do that? Sonic boom?

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Who asked Ben to go on the show?

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Just to clarify that, Joe invited Ben and me through
me And that's when I said, Joe, you really want
me to ask Ben to go on your show when
all they do is insult him every week?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
You're you you really want me to ask him?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
That?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
That was the That was the conversation. Just to clarify
that the whole deal there.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
Yeah, Russo was like, why would I come on if
you guys bury my friend Ben? And I talked to Ben.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
I was like, so you're saying you got the audio?
Can't see you shaking your head?

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
No, I said, because he asked me, I will you
and Ben come on the show? And I said, Bro,
you constantly bury Ben on the show. Now you want
me to ask him to come on your show?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's what I said.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
So Joe's saying Joe's not telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
No he's not. But I clearly explain that to him.

Speaker 12 (34:39):
You don't feel that way due And he was like no,
and he's willing to come on time.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
And I'm not. So Ben, what happened because, as Vince says,
you said, yeah, I'll go on the show. You never
went on the show?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right?

Speaker 6 (34:50):
What happened there?

Speaker 8 (34:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
FIENI was like, hey, can you come on Thursday at five? Sure?
Oh they can't do it. Can you come on Friday
at four? Yeah? Can you be there Friday six. Yep,
oh we had to cancel. Okay. You know, I make
myself available, so that's just what it is. And I'm
still willing to go on there and do that. It

(35:13):
just you know, Evince like, oh they bury Ben like
and like. It kind of popped me because even though
you went to bath for me, jeff him yelling that
reinforces me getting buried. I'm really not getting buried that bad,
I guess, or maybe I am, and I'm unaware of
it because I got a sharp New York tongue and

(35:34):
I'm passionate when I talk. But you know, that's what
being in the Craftsman in this game was about for
twenty years. So I'm happy to go on there. I
just like I said, I wonder if there are guys
talking shit, because when my buddies hear that, they go, well,
Disco was just a fucking mid car. You never got
anything done, and I go to bat for Disco. So

(35:54):
when guys shit on me to him, is he going
to bat for me? Not that he knows me, knows
me like that, But in the same interview, they'll go nos,
I mean he's down, like down to come back, and
I am. But like or do they just shiit on
me because they like to check from WW now And
that's fine. That's the name of the game, right Once

(36:15):
you get there, you leave your friends behind and we'll
meet you on the way back down the other side
of the mountain.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
That being said, if you could get an Oscar on
your podcast, I think but all turned against you, Bin,
you know what I mean, anybody knows you know.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, I definitely gotta get Oscar on there. That's my
twenty twenty six goal.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
I night.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yeah, and Ben was willing to go on Vince and
no Vince, that's fine.

Speaker 12 (36:52):
I'll go on LESCo, who told me recently that they
talked to Vince and he will come on for what
has he said to you, Disco?

Speaker 8 (36:57):
Is he is?

Speaker 12 (36:58):
He will?

Speaker 5 (36:58):
I'm talking about I'm doing the show with him Tomorrow'll
talk to tomorrow tomorrow morning. But I will say this.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Meanwhile, he never brought we did the show the next morning.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
He never brought any of this up to me, None
of it.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Bro Zero, I'm gonna bring it up, okay because this
is hysterical.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, okay, cause I listen, listen to now where this goes.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
But I will say this I'm going to bring that up. Okay,
because this is hysterical. Okay because I because Vince doesn't
understand why those guys that he buries on castrating the
marks all the time won't come and do podcast well,
won't come on a show. Right and now here he
is with the exact same reason that they would give
him for for the reason, Hey, why you get buried?

(37:40):
Why should I come to show from buried?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Yeah again again to clarify, I got the email from
Feeni inviting me and Ben on the show. My response was,
you want me to ask Ben to come on your show?
After all you guys do is bury him and disgredit him.
That was my response. Then I had a conversation with Ben.

(38:05):
Ben said he had no problem going on the show.
I said to Joe, I said, well, Joe, I've got
a problem because you can never get a word in
edgewise with disco. So what is the point. It's going
to turn into the same old, same old what it
always is with Land. He goes on this soliloquy. When
it's your turn to go, you say three words, he laughs,

(38:28):
and he then cuts you off. There's zero point to it,
So I just want to clarify all that.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, while he's clarifying, I'd like to update and say
that I think it was in the last twenty four
to forty eight hours, Joe get this new recording software shit,
So Disco's audio and visual quality has actually improved. Just
to see how long Disco can fuck that one up. Well,

(38:59):
we'll see. But they everything, so instead of hearing you'll
actually hear him mention the word trump in the middle
of those rounds, So it'll be good.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
We're not burying you. I go. Here's here's the problem.
Here's here's what Vince. Here's the thing. Defence was had
an issue with right. I had said on this show
that I've had d ms from a few guys in
the w that that they don't they don't really respect
much of what would.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Have been Since why would he say that on the show, And.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
And why would guys from the w W E email
DM him email him about But.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
Even if they did that thing, even if they did,
even if they did, why would he publicly say that
to make Ben look bad?

Speaker 11 (39:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
That's my point with these guys, bro, That's that's my
point with these guys. But again, to go one step further,
you think guys from the w w E are emailing
Glenn about Ben?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, like really.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Well even but what I'm saying is, even if they did,
why would you publicly try to humiliate him like that?
Because that's what you're doing. You're trying to discredit him
by saying it doesn't matter if you put him over
and say well I like him, by you saying O
w W you guys tell me you're trying to discredit
Ben And that's absolute fucking bullshit.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Man, I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
I don't like you.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
That was very to go to bat for me right there, dude.
But let's play a quick round, quick game wrong answers only.
Who is DM ing Disco Inferno saying I'm not ship
from WWE.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
I'm going with.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I'm going with my favorite rastler and I know yours
two Damnian priest.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Oh yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
I've definitely to a couple of times.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
This was my thinking on that because to me, if
somebody says something about somebody that i'm a friend with,
I'm that may paint them in a bad light or
make them look I'm never gonna publicly say something like that.
And the other thing which I didn't even bring up
was I don't think this goes a liar Ben. You

(41:19):
know those guys listen to your Guys' show.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, everybody hears Bro. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
So to me, this is no different than somebody with
an axe to grind that will tell Meltz or something
to get a narrative out there. So somebody didn't like
what you had to say because you were honest, and
because they take it personal when you criticize creative, you
know somehow that it's a personal thing, and so they
had to get their narrative out there that Ben doesn't

(41:44):
know what he's talking about because Ben said something that
was constructive criticism to the show. That's my thinking on
that anyway.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, I definitely would agree with that path of self
destruction instead of reaching out and asking if we can help,
like so many do behind the scenes, some of your
favorite WW superstars to reach out to Russo Brand or
the things that we allegedly wrote for possibly some of
those same people to pitch the USA Network president. But

(42:13):
there's no thank you when that comes, or there's no
let me help and see if I can get my
own stuff over. There's only he's an indie guy. He
doesn't know what he's doing. Meanwhile, when the guys in
WW get their own podcast, what do they talk about?
OVW and two CW, the two shows that helped run
book and perform on. So it's just the snake eating

(42:35):
its own tail. Bro, you know it's it's crazy with that,
But I think you guys are onto something. Oscar and
Damian Priest do have it out For me is when
it comes down.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Discre just texting me. He says he's watching this, he
said the sources. Car sin oh nice, that's dude.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I Hey, we ConTroll now.

Speaker 9 (42:59):
And poor Fiene he's caught in the middle of this.
So can I just ask, like, who does is Feene
have heat with either of you guys? Or is he
getting heat from anybody? Or he's just got out of me?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Dude. He's a producer a to start with, and he's
the like the whipping boy in the locker room, so
it's gonna land on him no matter what. But Peenie's
a huge Sopranos fan like I am, so outside of
wrestling that kind of surpasses all like we're mega marks
for it. But no, dude, I don't have heat with

(43:30):
any of these guys. Man Like I'm retired until they
hire me as a consultant again. And I'm perfectly fine
to talk openly about the art form I'm passionate about,
and if I don't, there's ten ways to skin the
cat and all creative. But this hole being inside the
bubble doing ten to twenty percent effort and acting like
you're doing one hundred percent business has got to stop.

(43:55):
Like I will not submit to the fact of you.
Where they want to put out numbers, we start with
five point nine million, and now we're down to two
point five or one point eight. Well that's the baseline bullshit.
That means you just blew the opportunity to hook four
point one million people. Or Jeff even had a great
analogy of McDonald's sells the most hamburgers makes the most money.

(44:15):
Is McDonald's the best burger on the market. Nope, But
imagine if they did have it, and how much more
money they could make, Like all these arguments of like
best time ever while you're serving people still shit sandwiches.
I want to make them filet mignon bro and all
the pieces are there to do that. I was even
talking to my guy Timmy Baltimore earlier about you know

(44:37):
whatever it is, the TKO takeover and the NDAs bro
that's a yellow Stone level storyline of reality where the
McMahons can shine as this billionaire weird family and you
can have levels of Greek tragedy, the fucking whatever you
want with a Carnee circus in the foreground. But really

(44:58):
it's like Dallas combined with Hamlet combined with the oedibys
racks and sexual abuse and corporate takeover. Instead, I gotta
watch lyra Velcrow put on sketchers and do heel toe.
I gotta watch him go here comes yet dressed as
Nwjack and do the Nwjack spot completely wrong. Nujack doesn't

(45:22):
come to the ring first with weapons. Everybody's in the ring,
so you can bump. Oh my god, it's new in Philly.
They can't with the guy who originally wrote it. They
can't do that right. But backstage are going, God damn it, Hayes,
you're a goddamn genius. Best work you've ever done. Here,
Come here, Raya Ripley. Mommy's always on top. Let me

(45:42):
give you a hug and comfort you and tell you
you're the best performer ever and give you a participation
trophy because you're all part of Generation Useless and the
NXT system. That is a false positive because once Shawn
Michaels gives you a hug and a hat and sends
you onto the main roster, it's time to swim and
big purse, and the rest of them can't even deliver

(46:04):
a goddamn eighth grade drama club level performance while they're
on TV. Bro, in my time at OVW, guys like
Damian Sandow were scrapping to get anything, And you're gonna
compare these kids to talent like that. No, not not
on my watch Dog. And the guys who the guys
fucking off the most, Sorry, the guys who did what

(46:27):
they wanted to the most, who go to another company
and smash a throne symbolically, or the other guy who
right does a pipe bomb promo can now come back
and do WrestleMania hugs and tears after all of that. Bro,
But Killer Cross, okay, I love, I love.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
People are acting like they feel sorry for Killer Across,
Like he gets to watch Scarlett with Bordeaux take a
shower and people go, fuck, He's got a tough life
for him.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Are what a loser?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
He's got long hair. Although they say it, Ireland is
a small world. Actually have met I know, I've met
her boyfriend. Here's a I can show the picture here.
That's me and her boyfriend hanging.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Outis always pays his debts, my guy and I think
we're all out a little something after watching those performances.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Yeah, Phil, I as far as Joe, I get a
little hot at Joe coming up. I'll explain it, uh
when we get to the.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Jeff's got heat with him.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
But I'm you know, how do I get this fucking
overlay off anyway?

Speaker 5 (47:52):
You know whatever? And we actually said which is weird
because we find been very intelligent. But with that was
the thing, Well.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
You know what, if you liked Ben and you were
Ben's friend, you would have never said that. Other ship,
That's what I'm saying. You don't say that, man.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Guess Vin think somebody clipped the thing and sent it
to visits and that we were burying Ben on the show.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
You just you just did, like does he not see
the irony of what he just said? He just buried Ben.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
But the last week we talked very positively about baby.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Hey, they're they're kind to say that they raped her
all of us with sex. I didn't hit her.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
It tony rape.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
When you hit them, you judge the most. I love
the burials, especially by idiots in the comments. But again,
thank you Jeff uh for the for going at me
and calling out what it was. But uh uh whereas
I go oh with with the burials of it all,
I just am like, hey man, they're saying your name like,

(48:57):
that's what it comes down to, and they're gonna learn
about Homi Media Group or Russo brand. So there is
no such thing as bad press when it comes to it.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm asked to call on you.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, well I guess yeah, that would be it too.
But Connor McGregor is still walking around all right, she.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
You know, actually find footage of that.

Speaker 12 (49:20):
Am I allowed to put my penis in your vagina
right now?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Why not say at least.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, that's done for the next podcast? Stupid? Thanks for then.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
If you're talking about me saying that somebody else buried,
then okay, is that us? That's not us burying Bin?

Speaker 11 (49:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (49:41):
It is, because yeah it is, it is.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Why Why would you say somebody else bury Bin? What
what's the point of saying that that's burying Ben. That's
burying Ben.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
It's just it's just a mail bag, Jeff. It's just
I'm just reading the mail bag.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You know. What I'm saying, I think is very intelligent.

Speaker 12 (50:01):
That's what just happened to me too, where I said, Hey,
there's the same conversation. Correct, Yeah, the guys a little
Facebook are staying they're leaving the brand for this and that.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
But I wasn't saying, yeah, but why would you even
talk about that?

Speaker 4 (50:11):
That's the And he's talking about it again too, talking
about it to me about it again too, after I've
had to talk about after I've had a discussion with
them once, they're talking about that.

Speaker 12 (50:23):
Again and everyone should leave the brand or whatever. I
was just whatever.

Speaker 9 (50:32):
To say with Conrad dot com. That's not very fair.
You can save twenty percent on some kneeling check me
up about cranberry sauce.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Sorry, go ahead, jbl have you ever used cranberry sauce
to lob up your cock?

Speaker 9 (50:47):
But Eric, that's not very fair. Cranberry sauce keeps you healthy,
and you can save twenty percent right now.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
See the back and forth. I take folk credit for this.
But the thing is, I've seen people say that stuff
of like oh, I'm leaving the brand. And I've also
seen people saying keep them one hundred, I'm unsubscribing. But
they don't because and I'm saying this including myself, and

(51:16):
it like their their their marks, like they they want
to hear the stuff being spoken about. Like you're seeing
all these people going, oh, the fucking ESPN. They it's
all this money. I'm not spending extra money. It's like, yes,
you will, you'll you'll You'll buy ESPN, You'll get Disney Plus,
you'll get fucking be et online. You'll buy the fucking

(51:40):
Mizz and Missus VHS box sets, you'll get the video game,
You'll go see fucking Peacemaker on ice all because it's
connected to wrestling. You will watch it, you will support it.
Stop saying I'm done, I'm out of this stuff. It's like, no,
you're going to do it all. And like the fucking Jake,
the snake Roberts is what ninety seven years old, and

(52:04):
he's traveling to the Belfast next month and he's probably
gonna make it up with fifteen grand over a weekend
from people going hurd Jake, Bill Marchomon stuff is great
and I'm including myself. I'm fucking panda meet him. I'm
not gay.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Shit, that's what's Oh yeah, you were doing?

Speaker 5 (52:25):
What's up? Kevin hundred To mention the Patreon that I
recent canceled my subscription Russ's brand after years, Joe told
me to explain why for the show.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Okay, all right, I got it.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Take it away, take it away.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
See see, Jeff, you go, I go, you go, I go,
you go, you go.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
Now, Jeff, when somebody says to you they canceled the brand,
and you're like, oh, tell me all about it so
I can talk about it on our show. You're looking
to get a negative thing out about us again and
talk shit about us again based on one person. You're
looking for the drama, like what that's a rat things?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
How many times have we done this to them? How
many times have we put them over? That's what I'm saying. Jeff,
never dirty, Joe.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
That's fucking dirty. Do not fucking email me. And I
know you're not gonna listen to this because the last
time you emailed me about what I said, you didn't
even listen to what I said. Somebody again in the
Facebook told you what I said and you got.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
It all wrong.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
And Jeff, just for the record, so everybody knows, bro,
I've never listened to one episode of their show. I
am worried about the Vince Russo business, the Jeff Flamee business,
the brand. This is what we concentrate on. I am
not consumed with keeping it one hundred that they're a

(53:43):
topic of discussion every week on this show.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
All rightiques, So you might think I don't like Joe
because of that clip. That's not This couldn't be farther
from the truth. That is me getting upset and the
moment about something that I am very disappointed that Joe
would do do voice Craig Joe, I know what goes

(54:08):
into his job. I know how hard his job is,
especially when his talent where's call center headsets, you know it.
He's got a lot of work to do there. But
to me, I've always been cool with Joe. I've always
respected Joe. I think there was a mutual respect there.
But when to dig into somebody that was unhappy with us,

(54:30):
to get that information, to then go talk about that
on their show, I thought I was very disappointed he
did that. I thought that was a dirty tactic, just
to feed in some drama and some narrative that our
people are unhappy with us. You know, you popped up
a thing that the on subs are just looking for attention.
Somebody had said that comment, you popped it up. I've

(54:51):
seen that, Yes, that right there, and that's exactly what
it is. I've seen people that have publicly said I'm done,
I go in. They didn't cancel. There was one guy
he made a big stink about canceling, and he did
cancel on Channel Attitude and then immediately signed up on
Patreon where we got our content there. So it's like,

(55:13):
you got to understand that these people don't always tell
the truth in this In this Facebook group that they're
talking about, which is probably five percent of our audience.
If that these people they don't like each other. They
all send me screenshots of their private conversations with each other.
He just want you to know so and so said.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
This about you.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
I got a whole folder of these things in case
I ever want to do a show on them. I
don't think it will because it outs the people that
send them to me. But you never know.

Speaker 8 (55:40):
I may do that.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
I may do a show on these things. I've had
two people tattle on each other to me like, it's
like I but that's the thing. You have to take
what these groups say with a grain of salt. Normally,
in a lot of times what those groups complain about
is actually good for business, you know. Like up for example,
with us, we started a new segment how Snow came

(56:00):
on where we watch silly, ridiculous indie wrestling spots and
now makes fun of them and laughs. Well, there was
a small group we listen on audio, we don't like that.
This is terrible. Well, when we started doing that, our
numbers were going up. So you have to know, you know,
just because the loud voice is saying something doesn't mean

(56:21):
the actual number corroborates that. So I always take what
people say with a grain of salt until I look
at the number. So to me, that was like you
are taking the niche of the niche a lot of
them who just like to complain about stuff, and that
is now the narrative you are spinning publicly about us.
And that's what bothered me. And I think it bothered
me more because it was Joe. Joe is somebody I

(56:44):
respect and I do like Joe and how I just
acted on there. I would have done that with my
best friend. I would have been just as angry like that.
I would said don't call me or anything, right, because
that's how I get sometimes when people piss me off
or I get disappointed.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
But you work hard on promotion and upload and all that,
and to have somebody that we all share the same audience,
you know what I mean to probably seventy eighty percent
trying to tear down somebody else's show when we're trying
to build synergy and get over. What they're really trying
to do is get over on that right and make
you look less then, and that's not the way forward,

(57:19):
you know what I mean? And sometimes you can get
caught up in that. I always like when Conang tries
to stay objective, what is Ben Haymon thinking, Discos go no?
He says the same events even just aim instantly thrown
and quantified into that type of shit. So this can
kind of be one of those situations out of nowhere
where it's just like, yeah, I agree to keep let's

(57:41):
just get through the mail fucking bag. But before I mean,
this is history repeating itself. Because lions Tiger's Bears in
head used to be Lions, Tiger's Bears and Disco. So
this is like these types of interactions of not respecting
each other's opinion kind of has led us back to

(58:02):
this point once again.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Unfortunately, there's like twenty more minutes of that vincing Jeff
clip and it's it sort of goes over the same
parts of it. So what I have lined up here
is some child I mean clips of Conan and Disco

(58:23):
sort of talking about a follow up to see if
I can get this fucking piece of shit working. Yeah,
that's drigg you bitch. You'll do what I tell you
to do. I own you. Is it working? Of course,
it's not. Why the fuck were the word.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Right here? We'll go.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yeah, that's what Daddy likes.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
More tweets here too, John.

Speaker 12 (58:47):
Mean too over twenty states Fandel's app is your ticket
to the action. Download the Fandels sports book app.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Okay, by the way, then this is why I don't
listen to a lot of the complaints. There's people complaining
the Joe did the voiceover for this page sponsorship. It's
like he's the woman the best audio on the fucking show,
Like who's gonna.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
I think Joe. I think Joe did a good job
on them, man, I thought they turned out pretty well.
But I'm going, how the fuck don't the rest of
us have FanDuel and a sponsor? Then they should. They
should have let it in for everybody else, bro and
they could have capitalized, going, I can get you all
the wrestling podcasts if you give me five percent. But instead,

(59:35):
but my guys.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Are Joe, if you're watching this, the next time you're
sending me a odd to you, she should use the
widescreen photograph. Look a look at these What are we
watching the television? What a great joke by me. That'll
that'll go into the highlights for later on.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
Now, So yesterday I got but Vince got mad at
us again, Joe, you got these tweets? So actually, you know,
during the show, Vince called me and he had said
that you know, he's done with me. Okay, now, so
all right, what does that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
All?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Well? I don't well he said this, okay, so let
me read you this. So my good friends Conan and
Disco bread an email from a disgruntled.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Before we go forward, I have this Conan clip that
I like to play gay.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
Good good reminder. Thanks for that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Hey, Bro, you want out bro former brand member who
stated that I said Rhea Ripley wasn't over, and they
took that as fact and a reason to go on
and bury you by saying that quote, I don't understand
the business unquote. You guys just got worked by a
mark and don't understand the business. Why do you put

(01:00:54):
a question and I don't understand the business. Also, to
set the record straight again, I told Joe Feeney there
were there's no point in going on the show, and
you can never get a word in edgewise with disco,
so what was the point. I never thought that these
two guys were all about clicks, but I guess everyone is,
these aids. I've always told you guys there are no
friends in wrestling. The more tweets here too, Joe, I

(01:01:16):
think I said I would discuss I said, I'm not
gonna waste any clicks, and I will address this on
the show, because why would I waste the clicks? Right,
because that's all We're just for the clicks, right Conin
that's to set the good case, to set the record.
I don't believe I've ever said Rie Ripley isn't over.
As a matter of fact, I've stid the complete opposite

(01:01:37):
on many occasions. Man, there are just two shills out
there going out of their way to try and discredit me.
One is already working for the WWE. The other has
trying his hardest to get hired. If trying to discredit
me will help you get there, they go for it.
Just thank me if it ever happens. Did you put
Jeff's tweet up? Did you get Jeff tweet too? Joe, Jeff, Wayne,

(01:01:59):
get it the act? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:02:02):
He the one that I have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
By the way, has there ever been a better offered
for Wade than than Conan? He is the most stone
looking stone guy that's ever lived.

Speaker 13 (01:02:12):
He is so fucking relaxed. He could be on a
crucial fix. He's like, hey, bro, just relaxed, Bro. I
don't get enough respect from my weed smoke, Bro. I
should be on RVD level, Matt Reddle level. Man, every
legend that comes to town gets tore up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
You should, I think what they stay in the streets.
You should toke a reefer. A while you're jerking, you're
chicken at the same time. It's a it's risky, but
with the same hand, it's a it's dangerous and it's risky,
but if it works, everybody wins.

Speaker 12 (01:02:50):
He has Vince's comment, but did you want something else?

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Play? Well? You play? These guys are freaking out over this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Quick game of you know, and we'll get to this.
I'm sure Jeff Scott's something to say about disco and
not being able to be wrong and finding Southern from
sports Keia three years ago. And then Vince's like, that
doesn't mean shit, fucking Rocky, my video wasn't over, and
then he got over. The ring Master was like, so
now we're in this weird back and forth, right, but

(01:03:19):
let's talk about pro wrestling and who's over. I want
you to go to the grocery store this week with
a clipboard and one hundred people, you interview him. You go,
do you know who Eosky is? Do you know who RAYA?
Ripley is? Just random people, and then we'll really see
what over means, because when two out of one hundred

(01:03:40):
know who that is, then you can see that wrestling
in itself is not over and we are preaching to
a micro demographic. This is not Austin three point sixteen
this is not nWo doesn't matter, Like, why what's the
difference Because the ticket price for second row at Wrestle
Palooza is forty eight hundred bucks a seat, bro, And

(01:04:05):
when wrestling was over, when it was really over, you
could go to Nitro and be ringside for forty to
fifty bucks and buy the shirt and do all that.
So all these metrics, all these stats are so bullshit
and based on nostalgia and lies and bots and hate
bots and just fake analytics, bro. And it just continues on,

(01:04:30):
and now we're in an argument going, this is what
you said in sports Skita three years ago about an
NXT title who wasn't over at the time, Like it
just is spun into.

Speaker 9 (01:04:39):
The ridiculous and saying that people are just doing stuff
for clicks.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
I fucking hate that.

Speaker 9 (01:04:44):
It's like, yeah, that's what the internet is, bro, you
know yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
And the thing is that I don't know if you've met.
There's this a new thing on YouTube. It's called the
promotion where you can use it, and it's basically YouTube
up their own click form where if you spend like
two hundred dollars or something, you get nine thousand to
seven thousand views So if you I'm not saying this

(01:05:12):
is what w W does, but just see you had
money to burn, you could realistically get yourself a couple
of like like one hundred thousand views overnight moven and
you know, and and then and you can and you
could suddenly get this boost of popularity MVP right out

(01:05:32):
of nowhere, page and everything could just it's like, what
the fuck? How did you get that amount of views?
Straight away?

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
Working in Brazil? I heard you could get to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
That's that's the goal in life, especially when you're my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
From here, Jeff and Jeff put it over about the
hate the bots and ship and Tony Kahn has even
said hate bots, even that in Yahoo this week in
his things that bot farms are the primary properly and
against everything that they got going on, and won't go
into that right now, but not only that, the metrics
don't line up. As a businessman, and I'm gonna spend

(01:06:10):
my marketing money, I'm not gonna spend my money on
a show that does eight hundred and sixty thousand on
TV on a Friday night when allegedly a clip does
eighty two million on YouTube. All I'm gonna do is
have you put my logo in the lower third on
the eighty two million for the same price, and the
fact that nobody's selling that ad space, it means one

(01:06:31):
of a couple things. Either you have an inept marketing
department that's leaving millions of dollars on the board, or
your numbers are a complete lie and they're bought and
you don't want to put anybody's logo on there because
then you're selling them a false bill of goods. When
it comes to this is how much we're really drawing.
So the fact that those clips aren't sponsored while they

(01:06:54):
go we got seventy six million online. Sure jam, sure
you did like that. That just shows why would you
leave that money on the table. That's where you can
go and charge super Bowl level advertising fees to slim
gym and shit like that. But they're not doing it.
So that means you think it's just in an f

(01:07:15):
CEO or a VP or their lives, it's wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
That Actually, that is a pretty good point because they
can actually start hiring hosts who promote the host YouTube
clips like Hey, everybody, it's me mc hummer promote my
new film Bad Boys five. Anyway, here's a clip of
Last Night Underall when Demion Priest accidentally went to tombstone

(01:07:44):
carried shin and he fell backwards on by accident, and
now he's been arrested for assa and that would be
that would be a spot that that's actually my gimman
can't touch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
This is what it comes down to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
That's what me ax. That's one of his song titles as.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Well, you know, quick with Them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yeah, that's one of my secret wrastling characters. I always
wanted to do, was Secrety Gay Steve Austin and you're
sixty nine or seven three six five says I just
sucked your dick and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
You I don't think. I don't think it's no secret
if you're wearing that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Oh, but I just don't medica. Oh well, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
I'm self loathing then more than secretive.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
You climb up the ropes and you crash two decks
together and glitter shoots out of them, and then you
catch them in your fist. Then when the raft speaks
to your on your knees looking up at them, and
your finisher is you pick them up with the tombstone.
Then you fall backwards and they pin you and even
though you've lost, you win with a you lose with

(01:08:50):
the smile in your fist.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
It's funny, sounds like it sounds like a great w
NB A halftime show. Bro, I would go, I would
run with that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
I say this very Ripley right, goodhead.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Arguably on this show, arguably the most overwoman on the
roster on Raw on this show arguably would be Rhea Ripley.
Ben what they used her for a fifteen second backstage
segment yesterday. That's how you did use one of the

(01:09:23):
vin Vince has put over Rea Ripley.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Kay. So, so my do you have the rigid the
email that that that guy the guy sent in because
he says is a disgruntled brand member, all right, and
I do remember him saying this because like the guy
you know. But but my take is, do you have
a Joe?

Speaker 12 (01:09:40):
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure the guy's email
wasn't shown.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
Okay, here you go, I put pulled up. Okay, what's up?
K one hundred I mentioned on the Patreon that had
recently canceled my subscription Russo's brand after years. Joe told me,
Joe told me to explain why for the show. I
still like Vince, but he's completely off the rails with
his to be critiques. The final straw for me was

(01:10:02):
him saying, Real Ripley wasn't over. Why do you think
he would say that? You there, tell us this is what.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Sorry. This is where Disco has now found a quote
from twenty twenty two where Vince said Ria Ripley wasn't over.
This was so long ago when she had that really
short hair. Okay, that's how long ago? How long ago
it was? So Disco was now using that to say, well,
we were right, you did say that, so we need
to apologize to them. It is clear in that email

(01:10:32):
that Joe just read the guy said the final straw
for me was Vince saying Ria Ripley wasn't over. The
guy said he canceled recently. I was able to confirm
that because while Joe did hide his email, by his
picture and who I've contacted the email, I could find
out who that was. I looked it up. The guy's
not lying. He canceled a couple months ago. So you're

(01:10:54):
telling me the final straw for this guy canceling a
couple months ago was something Vince said three years ago,
and he hung on for three years after that final
straw and then just canceled. So like Vince saying that
three years ago is not relevant to this, the guy
painted a picture that Vince recently said that. They responded
as if Vince recently said that, So the fact that

(01:11:16):
Vince said it three years ago, in my opinion, is
irrelevant to this entire thing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
You're very right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
But first of all, Gee highlighte acts for New Zealand
thanks for a toolbucks shout out, Phil bro I remember
play the flute.

Speaker 9 (01:11:37):
Well, this isn't my channel or my show, bud, but
become a member of Hughsey's channel real quick, and uh,
I don't know, maybe he'll pull a flute out of
his ass or something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Here, here's my flute, Shigne here, good fox, There you go.
I spit at Dice. Everybody wants to hear Dice talking
to red.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
Cunts and whatever. Yeah, all right, the guy suspended from
the mail. Okay, from information we do not report, and
if we reporting information, we're correcting it. Okay, Vince didn't
say that. However, on the second point where says vinced
that we said Vince does not understand the business, Okay,
I will double down on that Vince does not understand

(01:12:17):
the business because the business is the money. Okay, Vince
keeps reporting that the ww sucks, you know, the creative
sucks a thing. Well, like, dude, they're doing record business,
and you actually have been on the record of saying
that the WWE is charging too much, which actually shows

(01:12:37):
that you do not know the business because you're telling
them that they should be making less money. All we
ever try to do in the show is acknowledge that
the WWE is doing record numbers. So our critiques of
the show, if we think it sucks, there must be
something that they're doing right, if they keep selling out.
We don't know exactly what it is because we don't.

Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
But it doesn't mean it all goes without like you
can't still critique for what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
I just don't.

Speaker 9 (01:13:02):
Sorry, I didn't mean interrupt for that, I guess, but
it's a it's just like, I don't know why he's seven.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Reviewing his show is not business right like that, That's
what I'm saying. We're trying to critique a subpar product
based on the creative choices of putting four tag matches
on one show on Friday, which takes the audience on
no roller coaster and it has zero meaning. And once
you've seen one tag match, now nothing is special. After that,

(01:13:30):
you've seen the hot tag spots. Everybody fights on the outside,
goes to the table. Somebody's gonna run in. Here come
the agent. So they fought into the crowd and washhrints repeat,
whether it's guys or girls. So if we're actually trying
to write a decent show, and USA Network has been
worked once again to say, oh yeah, you guys get

(01:13:52):
smacked down. Now they care even less than when they
had raw and they didn't give a shit about it.
So do you want return on your investment if you're
a USA network? So to go, they're making more money
than ever. Imagine if they did good creative you can
make three to four times as much money as you're
making now. So just because you're making more doesn't mean

(01:14:12):
you're making the most.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, thanks z Life Ze High Life Acts for becoming
a UTEL member. But the thing that ben I think
the thing that Disco feels to mention, I've gonna admit
I watched the plas and I enjoy them, but I
watch the TV shows but Disco doesn't take into consideration

(01:14:36):
the obsession with the young people and social media, like
they will go they will travel four or five hours
just to take a photograph knowing that it'll get a
lot of attention or likes on Instagram. Yeah, and that's
like if we look at him the Weekend, the really
talented singer who doesn't rip off Bench or Michael Jackson ever. Yeah,

(01:15:01):
every song I've never heard it before. And he used
to do the thing when he was starting off that
he never showed his face unless you've seen them live.
So if you went to his shows and took photographs
of his performances and they're like, holy shit, this is
what the Weekend looks like. I'll put it up on

(01:15:23):
Instagram next thing. You know, this just gets six hundred likes.
I usually get seven likes. I'm gonna do this more.
And it just so happens that his original songs are
really good and he's also a good actor as well,
which we could all agree. But so they're.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Talking about Andy Warhol fifteen minutes of fame, bro and
people thinking that just because they got those likes and
that dopamine hit and they're standing next to a studio
factory made property by Sony that it is, and that
game got run before social media. Ghost Face Killer came
out with the mask on and nobody knew his face
until iron Man came out. So like they've been running

(01:16:04):
these games over and over. It's just that we live
in an instant gratification world now, and people, because of
social media, think that they can their opinion because it's
on the same Twitter feed in that thing is equal
to the person that they're talking to. When it comes
to expertise. I mean, I can't go ahead to head
with Neil de grass Tyson on astrophysics if I tweet

(01:16:26):
that stop being sad.

Speaker 9 (01:16:28):
Though being able to buy blue checks fucking made that
worse too.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Yeah, yeah, another false positive, right, sorry us it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
That being said, I'm gonna say that if w W
said we're doing a showing islander somewhere and brock Lassener
is gonna be on it and then take it to
like four hundred bucks or well, they wouldn't be four
hundred bucks over here, that'll be weird, but I would
I would end up going. I'd say, fuck it, I've
got to see brock Lassner and maybe I'll take a

(01:16:59):
selfie with him. He's notoriously fond friendly and he loves
people talking to him, him and his an ugly daughter there.
I said it, come Downland and do something about it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
Like a lot of stuff in the show. And they
think we're shills. Bro, anybody can listen to our reviews
of the shows. Okay, we're absolutely not chills. Okay, if
you think that we are site, we're shilling for w
B and anything that we say, it's ridiculous. Are you
any come.

Speaker 12 (01:17:25):
Into this well for Conners, I did throw Jef's tweet
up there as well.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
They can never bash meltzer or dirt sheets, which we
do all the time. This is completely did these guys
don't listen to our show and they're talking about something
they think we say.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
Yeah, I probably worried at poorly. What I was trying
to say was I don't want to hear like they
shouldn't be able to bash meltzer dirt sheets when they
did the same thing, Like, I don't want to hear it.
I don't want to hear them bash and meltzer and
dirt sheets. That's what I meant to say. So yeah,
I probably typed that poorly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Well, just as a cheap plug for tomorrow and keep
going hundred. There's a great clip of Cone replying to
Melcher was down playing the success of Triple Minia. So
Conan gives him a couple of few jobs. So do
you think about that, Melcher? You?

Speaker 7 (01:18:14):
Oh, well, you know the best guys Tony gone.

Speaker 10 (01:18:18):
Yeah, well these days, high numbers or that means that
you're gay. I know there's Cornan admitting to being gay.
I bet he isn't gay, not that there's anything wrong
with him, but I'm just saying, Brian, that Conan might
be gay if his numbers are good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Kennie O.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Megan is not gay. I can prove it his boyfriend
is totally straight.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
When their source of news is the mailbag and the
Facebook group and they don't fact check anything.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
N traders shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, fucking English can't. Nobody cares.

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
And if you avoid trading these three things, I'll teach
you how with the mortgage guy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
I'll try tried chips up me bam, we.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
Fuck next week. We corrected, So, Vince, I apologize for
seeing for us going on the ramp that you said
Ree Ripley was over. Was it wasn't over. But I
am not correcting that you have do you have no
clue about the business. C staates, why why do that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
That's the line in the sand of like where a
man can and can't go past, but what is his
blockade to do that? It's not just to keep this
back and forth rip going where people think it's a
work and da da da, Like it's okay to say, yeah,
we reported something, we fucked up and it's all good, brother,
let's have some laughs and move forward, and said it's

(01:19:38):
double down on. You're an idiot. You don't know about
the business. When Box wanted us, we talked to Jacob
Allman while he said, yeah, we know, there's a lot
of issues. When SmackDown Got bought it at three point
six and we talked to him as a three point
one and they sold it when it was a two
point one. And then Chris McCumber from USA Network goes, yeah,

(01:20:00):
they're lying to me and there's nothing I can do
about it. We want the show to be this. So
why would Netflix not look at those things or have
their executives do that and go oh, yeah, really, you're
gonna get a six million and now we're down to
one point eight million.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
You know what's gonna be very interesting? I don't know
if you've seen this thing, but it's the rerise of
piracy because now left here, brother, yeah, it's coming back
where people are pirateing these exclusive Apple Only or Disney

(01:20:38):
Plus or whatever because it's like, people want to see
this ship, but it's no more expensive to stream than
it was to have it on the television.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
That really, Definitely, do not go to Swatch series dot
I S or bh flix dot s H because that
would make you less of a wrestling fan, or the
TV app dot t O. Don't use any of those.
And definitely don't watch pay per views on onemax dot
com or a sports surge. Don't do any of that

(01:21:06):
like that that would make you a bad person.

Speaker 7 (01:21:09):
And don't watch fuck films on X and xx.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
N fuck films. Yeah, I'll do the fingering. So fucking what,
why would you pay for any of this? And and
you know what, let those marks in the second row
pay five grand for tickets while I stream your shitty

(01:21:35):
show to watch nineteen different samoans, not get over, not
do ahead, not do a head butt spot. We're samoans.
Nobody does have butts anymore. Okay, well for all black guys,
you know what, I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Mean, yeah, apart from a toongaloa. That guy is good.
That guy can work and he's always getting better. That's
the one thing I've been I should act, you go
to the SmackDown Show tomorrow because he'll be there and
he'll make it worthwhile.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I heard he's going to be brock. He's on such
a hot streak.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
That's my drey much. And the winner gets Carrie seen.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
For the w W sucks and they're doing record numbers
and signing record deals and keep making money. It's like,
it just sounds ridiculous. He any comment, Cone, do you
have any common joke?

Speaker 12 (01:22:25):
I think this started. What it was was I was
getting a lot or seeing a lot of comments on
the Facebook group, the brand group, which I'm a member of,
and then I saw someone Patreon and in our emails
of people that were like, we were gonna I don't
listen to Vince anymore because of this and this and
his critiques. He's too overly critical of w B and stuff.
So we started talking about it on the show and they,

(01:22:45):
you know, Vincent Jeff seemed to take that personally, like
as if I was saying there, their brand is failing.
People are leaving and I was just curious why people
were saying that, so I would say, yeah, well tell
me what your problem is. But they were they were
a little angry about that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:22:58):
No, I I respect those guys. I mean, but I
like Jeff. We have similar positions.

Speaker 6 (01:23:04):
The reason why we were upset about that is because
come air out your grievances with the brand, and we
will put them on our airwaves. That that's basically what
it is. So it's not like he's playing both sides
of the table and getting the people that are happy
with us. You know, the narrative sounds like that our
numbers are going down from everything that they've been talking about. Now,

(01:23:26):
if you look at I saw some report on Blue Sky.
There was a narrative going around that Blue Sky is dead.
So what happens there that I'm not saying this, I
don't even use it. I just saw this report that
once the impression is out there that it's a dead platform,
nobody's going to go there because it's dead. So if
you get the impression out about us, there could be

(01:23:47):
people listening to their show that may have been interested
in us. Are they're done anyway? So I'm not going
to check it out when in reality, since this time
the original clip he was talking about in the last
nine months, he'd heard a lot of people cancel or whatever.
In that nine month frame, our numbers have gone up.
So that's the reality of the situation. So in my opinion,

(01:24:09):
the actual perception of that they were given out of
our business is the exact opposite of reality. And the
fact that I do respect Joe. I you know, you
think you're like boys with these guys and that we
got each other's back and to do that, yeah, I
took that personally because that's my that's me paying my bills.

(01:24:32):
Where this comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
I will say, I think that the Joe's did the
thing where he's making a point a fair point for
wording it incorrectly, if that makes sense, and that like
he's what he's saying is coming across more harshly than

(01:24:55):
what he's probably trying to say. And I'm not even
too sure that I know what I'm saying here.

Speaker 7 (01:25:05):
We'll play the clip, God damn it.

Speaker 12 (01:25:09):
But yeah, man, we have this open form mail bag
where we're going to read what people send us, and
you know, and if people are reporting that they're not
happy with with their brand membership anymore than there's that's
just their opinion, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
And if and if you guys reported it is like
community notes. If we say something to the show, it's
an accord, you guys can report it, we'll correct it.
What's the big deal? Of course, it's like bro that
them freaking out over that is so absurd. It's just
it's okay, Okay, we said Ray Ripley's is over what
she is. Okay, we all agree on that. So finally
me and Vincent Coney and everybody agrees on and at
least one thing on the show that Ree Ripley is

(01:25:39):
over Conney, are you gonna comment?

Speaker 11 (01:25:41):
Well, the the first thing that he said there, he's
saying something like, oh, you just got worked by a mark?

Speaker 8 (01:25:49):
Well, how are we supposed to know that?

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:25:52):
You know, we don't.

Speaker 11 (01:25:53):
You know, if somebody sends you a letter and says hey, Vince,
Disco and Conan and says you don't know the big business,
and then later on we write, you just got worked
by a mark?

Speaker 8 (01:26:04):
Are we supposed to know that?

Speaker 11 (01:26:05):
We're just answering whatever we're told, Like Disco said, if
we're wrong, then we'll retract that statement.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
I don't really do.

Speaker 8 (01:26:12):
Vince straight up, I like you, but I don't give
what you think about me.

Speaker 11 (01:26:16):
I'm not a shill for nobody, never have been. Disco
has known me long enough, and you've known me long
enough to know that if there's a guy that's always
had ay heat in this business for saying what he feels,
it's me correct. Okay, So I don't have to be chilling.
I don't even show when Triple A shows are bad,
you know, I just say what it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Is, and you've got you got you gotta heat of
that over the years. I don't think you should be
as open as you are talking about it, So you don't.

Speaker 8 (01:26:43):
Don't come with that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Where they can they can print a car or download
a car. You can go to thing of herse dot
com three D printing free files, and I think there
is a couple of cars.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
On there by the way. So Conan pervades on keeping
one hundred tomorrow exactly what was happening in the cry
at the Triple A shore that made him y out
at the guy. So subscribe to KVE. It's a good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Story that's out there. Somebody had said that he looks
like the grandma from dinosaurs and they put that on Botchmania.
But then somebody had sent me that he looks like
the turtle from the lollipop commercial. How many licks does
it take to get to the center of it's your
old pop. They had him like internet is ruthless.

Speaker 11 (01:27:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
I'm not gonna rid on k do because I'm no.
I'm not easy on the eyes either, so yeah, but
they just come at him so hard.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Bro, I remember a Conan set up with Disco. The
disco looks like he just Bro, you look like Jay
Leno with the big nose.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Bro, you fit the protate.

Speaker 8 (01:27:53):
You unless I see you print something.

Speaker 11 (01:27:57):
Oh well, you know, I told WW for them for free,
or I told what's this guy from AW, I'd be
willing to you.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
Know, all my services for free.

Speaker 8 (01:28:09):
I'm not gonna talk about wrestling ever. Again. I'm not
gonna bro knock.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
It off play.

Speaker 8 (01:28:15):
I mean, maybe you're important.

Speaker 11 (01:28:17):
To a thousand fans two thousand and five thousand, I
don't know, but it's you're not that big of a deal, dude.
Get over yourself, you know. Yeah, you don't know the business.
If you think that WW yeah, I do work for them.
But at the same time, if you think that they're
not doing the correct business moves. There's a reason they're

(01:28:37):
setting records everywhere they.

Speaker 8 (01:28:39):
Go, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
That's the question I'd love to ask, Yeah, Jeff and Ben,
because Russu has said a lot, not a lot many
times that at this time, I'm going to give up
watching WW and I'm relaxing, and he has said this
quite a lot, but he always he keeps scoring. What

(01:29:01):
do you think about that that, Jeff? When the Vince
says I, do you believe him or do you just think, oh,
he's uh, he's working the marks. Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
Yeah, he's never just said something to say it. He
did it with a w he stopped years ago. He
said I'm done with AW on this day and then
he was done and he didn't watch it again. He
was going to do that with WWE years ago. But
then me and him and I don't even remember this.
One of our listeners pointed out to me we did
a sit down podcast and we kind of talked through

(01:29:31):
why he shouldn't stop watching wrestling for now. So he
talked that on it in the air and he changed
his mind. But that's all document I mean. Is he
not allowed to change his mind? So yeah, he said
that before, but he ended up changing his mind. He
didn't change his mind with AW so when he changed
his mind, it was only for WWE. He got the

(01:29:51):
sports keid to gig you're reviewing there. He does the
show with Ben and Stevie on our show. So yeah,
I don't as of right now, he's done the day
that he says he may change his mind. You know,
who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
But why?

Speaker 6 (01:30:07):
I don't get the why. Who cares if he changes
his mind? Why is that something that people get upset
about if he changes his mind.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:30:16):
I don't get it. Ben, What do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:30:18):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Yeah, he did stop watching AEW so did I? You know,
I only watch a few select things that are sent
to me or buddies that are working there to watch
the whole show. It's maddening when you can right at
a high level and you have to go watch Disney
on ice for third fourth graders. But they think that

(01:30:39):
they're making the Godfather like that. That's the delusion of
it and the echo chamber, and then people just keep
putting over the numbers, Well, why are the numbers what
they are? What has TKO done that? Vince McMahon never
did that's commercialize the whole product into a NASCAR and
get most marketing money out of it. And then even

(01:31:01):
Dick con says, well, we don't know what to do.
We follow what the NFL does, and they're doing that,
which means put games on as many different platforms as
possible ESPN, now, Netflix, USA, Pcock right like, that's what
they're doing. And that's the model, not based on quality
of WWE. That's the media model. We used to have

(01:31:25):
cable that was all independent. It all got consolidated into
five monopolistic companies the illusion of choice. Then it got
broken up into subscriptions. Then they raised the price of subscriptions.
Now people are going back to pirate culture again. And
then they will then go, oh, you know what, there's
just too many subscriptions. Let's reinvent cable television. We'll call

(01:31:48):
it something else, and it all will go in another
circle because people are fucking sheet morons that are led
by marketing, by commercials and by programming. But we have
to sit here and have arguments over guys in their
underwear laying on top of each other. For yeah, dude,

(01:32:09):
you don't understand about guys laying on top of each
other wiener, the wiener for a fake belt. You don't
you don't get it, like could you know?

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
I guess, but stop being shaid. I think the Netflix
is fucked next year because they're they're they're only big show.
They have laughed, The Stranger Things and an Engine. I
think it's November or The Chamber or whatever. Hey, Dan,
what what is the point of being subscribed to Netflix?

(01:32:39):
For all their films are gay?

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Yeah? And then the pendulum will swing back because what
is what is all of their upper rachelan brass, the
EI hires that wanted to program politically and quell the
nineteen eighties brat pack. Now we've swung the way. The
comedy will come back. Everyone's saying retard or whatever they

(01:33:03):
want to say again, right like, yeah, you'll get, You'll
get all the way back to Andrew Dice Clay, whoever
that version of it is. And then but all those
executives will then jump ship to Amazon Bravo and fail

(01:33:25):
upwards because two three years ago they were coffee getters
and everybody puts a Netflix, the nameless, faceless Netflix. If
you ever had to deal with these execs or some
of these sub execs, you will find out they are
not brilliant people. They are just ex Hollywood people who
didn't make it, who suck hold themselves into a spot

(01:33:47):
that then got voted promoted into a vice president. And
they really don't know what they're doing. They're just getting
the opportunity to green light whatever it is little girls
dancing that our four years old loes as sweeties or
whatever the fuck that I like, that's what you're putting
out there. Dog, Okay, don't know what's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Like a nice vagina.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Don't expect to work here. As the pendulum swings back,
and then you'll get the next level. And Netflix will
probably go more sports based, well, testosterone based. And if
TKO's already in there, once they get done with the
Paramount deal and that goes to shit because Paramount's sixty
billion in debt or whatever, they are, right, they will

(01:34:34):
jump to Netflix because the door's already open. It's just
got a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Of coming my bulls.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
It's selling the same lemon, it's selling the same bill
of bad goods to another executive. I've watched them do
it at Fox, watch them do it at USA, and
now you're watching them do it at Netflix. They'll be
disgruntled in two years and they already just did it
to ESPN. How does Peacock feel about the numbers that
they were supposed to get from Saturday Night's main event
and what they were promised first? What was delivered on?

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah and just wait until late another w W A
Shotaday Night Live. Are you excited? I know I am.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
She took it up to as the comedy stylings of
Brown Breaker.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Yeah, brown are here. Here's your weekend up did with
broun Lestener. Instead of the Coneheads, it'll be the Janelle
Grant ship heads.

Speaker 12 (01:35:42):
We say real quick, the guy bend an email in
and the other thing.

Speaker 11 (01:35:46):
Jeff, I could give what you think anyways, you know,
I mean, you don't make me come out and bury
you because you just collateral damage.

Speaker 8 (01:35:55):
You just you know, back in the damage remmendable. But
I could give what you have to say either.

Speaker 11 (01:36:01):
We're not a fact checking thing here. If we if
we're not sure, if something, we will fact check the
source right And I can't bro we do over five
hours a week. We can't fact check everything. Just to
keep you guys happy, and we were about clicks, this
show would be away way different.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Show plus two I was gonna say.

Speaker 8 (01:36:25):
And Ben, I mean much love to you. We got
no heat, Yeah, we love that.

Speaker 12 (01:36:29):
While you're thinking, yeah, the guy Ben that emailed in
was a long time email as far as it wasn't
like someone created this email to bury Vince. So I'd
say to the guy, I'd say to Ben, you know,
I know you're a long time contributor. Let us know
what you're referring to. If you think or you heard
Vince say that he didn't, you know, for.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
The guys, just patroll. Okay, are you sure? Here's here's
the thing. I don't know. The whole thing is, like,
any can I say something, it's something.

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
That I apologize. I hope they bury me because like
for somebody like me, that helps me like them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:37:05):
Yeah, I've got more engagement this past week than I've
had in the past year. So anytime they talk about me,
that's good. I mean, what are they gonna say I
play with toys?

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:37:14):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Great?

Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
Who hasn't said that I play with video games?

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
I stream a definitely twenty two on twitch. Come check
me out. So but what I want if I'm if
they're just gonna insult me, okay, cool? Whatever, I get
that every single day. That doesn't in my opinion, anyway,
that doesn't bury me. That's kind of like, well, maybe
what I was saying was correct because they're not challenging
the points that I made. Their response is to get

(01:37:38):
the cheap pops and the giggles by making fun of me. Now,
I'm not saying that's what they're going to do. I
would hope that they would respond to the points that
I say. But either way, for somebody like me, if
they're talking about me on their show in front of
people that may not listen to me on a regular basis,
I'll go ahead, please like bury me because I think

(01:37:59):
that helps me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
It's five hours a week on the shitter too much?
Because like that, that's that's a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
That's hemorrhoid territory, I think, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Yeah, I think you need to see a doctor's gee
highlight X. You may have age right up your whole
and they's just a few more seconds laughter.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
The boys come out of Vince's mouth. So why would
we fact check that he keeps saying w sucks if
he's like, why would we think that was fake? If
he said Rae Ripley isn't over. He just reposted how
Bailey's never been over?

Speaker 12 (01:38:34):
Yeah, on a whole for things.

Speaker 5 (01:38:38):
But that's enough, So Vincent, I hope you're happy we've
corrected the error on the rear ripley, but I'm not.
I'm still very adamant that, yes, you do not understand
the business in near twenty twenty five, obviously not so
that's very crystal clear.

Speaker 12 (01:38:52):
Yo.

Speaker 8 (01:38:53):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
What's up.

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
To?

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
When you go to church this week? Usual during prayers
and concerns, I'd like you to go up to the
pulpit and go. I just wanted to get a show
of hands of how many people out there know Bailey
in this congregation? See who's over? This definition of being
over is ridiculous to me. Bro. None of these hey

(01:39:18):
it's are over?

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Hey, I'd certainly go to church and pray to that
are somem.

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
I right now?

Speaker 8 (01:39:28):
Oh, smelly whore.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
I figured since you got kicked out of the ring boys,
you just started going with the altar boys instead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Well, let's just say that we have our compensations. So
I'm hoping that this doesn't turn into like a longer feud.
It's good for I'm sure online chat between fonds of
the shows. But pretty but I think it's it's stupid
if it turns into side taking because a CA one

(01:39:59):
hundred and the Brond pretty much have to see him fombius.
But and hopefully they will check this episode because as
we wrap up, of course we can go for the plugs. Phil,
what plugs do you have? Which will be linked on
below for all these lovely boys and girls butt plugs?

Speaker 7 (01:40:17):
Uh oh the other ones.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
So hush, I do.

Speaker 9 (01:40:22):
A live show. It's a comedy talk show. I guess
that's how I describe it. Every Wednesday and Saturday. It
is called PWT Live Show. And that is a YouTube
dot combackslash at pro Wrestle Clips.

Speaker 7 (01:40:35):
So make sure you guys check me out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Thank you and Ben, just before you do your plug,
there's a question here. So it's been going on K
one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
Yeah, man, Phoenie can reach out to me whenever he
wants to bro. As long as I'm not working open
the clothes at Raven's Joint, then I'm happy to go
on there. And just when you thought I was out,
they pull when you heard them, I'm cool with them.
They love me. I'm the smart guy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Everybody loves me, and then what plugs you have, probably
fucking March that will.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Appreciate all the crossover in the Russo brand master shoot
theater subscribers and want me to go on K one hundred.
It's always a good time for me no matter what.
And make sure you're following my brand Hamine Media Group
on YouTube. There we're putting out clips there Hamin Media
Group on Twitter. Get those subs up. My guys putting

(01:41:28):
out great clips as well. And seeing the interaction with
all the clips that Jeff's putting out on Vince's YouTube
as well. I like seeing that. So yeah, man, And
if you need weed and you're in New York State
and I want to come see me, come to Ravens
Joint and Clay New York.

Speaker 8 (01:41:43):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
That's the thing I'm most proud of right now. And
just to get to keep kind of dipping my toe
into wrestling punditry until I stalk the next USA network
at vaccioms and get us another consultancy. That's pretty much
what I'm doing until that point, and it'll happen or
ilse I'll get to somebody at Netflix who's had enough

(01:42:04):
of their bullshit as well, and we'll get paid that way,
and I'll continue to get buried. Is not knowing shit
about wrestling, But I'll collect the check and laugh the
whole way.

Speaker 8 (01:42:13):
Strawberryes in my ars, please.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Yeah, and Jeff the leader of the brand. What plugs
do you have?

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
Yeah, guys, you can check us out all of our
stuff on Vince Russo's the brand at patreon dot com
slash Russo TWC. Obviously Vince Russo, he's in the name.
Ben is on there with Stevie Richards doing the raw
and SmackDown review with Vince. We have Al Snow, we
have Stevie Ray, we have EC three. We got a

(01:42:45):
couple episodes coming up with Dlo Brown next month where
him and Vince talk about unreal I know I'm forgetting somebody, Ben,
I always do. Do you know who I'm forgetting? If
I am going ahead, I think you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Covered almost all the main clips that I've been watching,
man of everything that we got going on. But anybody
who's more over than us that we we forgot, we
apologize and we'll carry your bags accordingly.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
Yeah, and you can check me out personally right there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Jeff but in my forge and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Conan, big conan gay.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
There we'll go. So thank you everybody for watching. Don't
forget to hit the like button on the way. Oh
we'll just get a quick super chaps. I agree with Hey,
you could just do it. Thanks for the toe bocks.
Rey to be Doo stinks. Of course he does stink,
and he's going to pay whenever I see him. I

(01:43:44):
want to thank everybody for coming on. This was a
great episode. I feel I'm gonna end with it with
an old shitcom we have goodbye everybody. Hi, everybody show
and believe.

Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
Me, now you take away to is part of me.

Speaker 8 (01:44:04):
Baby, please don't go.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Okay, Thank you Phil, and thank you Jeff, and thank
you Ben. I think this went pretty well. Hopefully Russo
and Disco can end their big pretty soon. I don't
think that it's gonna last, to be honest. I think
they're just a kind of hot headed at the minute.
And I think the problem with those types of debates

(01:44:30):
is people always say shit. They they don't really mean,
but they know that if I say this it'll hurt
their feelings and they feel like that's a win.

Speaker 8 (01:44:37):
But there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I want to thank everybody for listening. Don't forget if
you were wanted them with the audio of what the
video version looks like. Go to a huge entertainment on YouTube,
but it's free to watch, and it's there the lovely
thumbnail and you get to see me fumble with the controls,
but there you go. Don't know what's coming up, but
i'd like to think that for septemb I'm gonna lay low,

(01:45:02):
have no like night Side and stuff like that planned.
I'm gonna lay low. I'm gonna really try and get
a shitload more of these episodes recorded because you deserveed.
You lovely people, So that is everything, and it is husual.
Bye bye,

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