ep. 231: does J.J Abrams stink?

J.J Abrams was once referred to as "the new Steven Speilberg" yet since, 2019, J.J has been able to get a single project greenlit, a TV show called Duster, which was cancelled after one season. Did J.J Abrams ruin Star Trek? Did J.J kill Star Wars? Did J.J save Mission: Impossible?

Does J.J Abrams stink?

I set up a familiar roundtable of Christian Blaft (host of Who Are These BroadCast, Marvel Movie Talk & The BladtCast), Liam Maceleny ( Misery Loves Company) & Phil Marks (Pro Wrestle Times & Phil Marks Out) to debate. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It is Shuesy.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hello everybody, and yes that's right, we were back with
one of our director rying Tables specials. This time the
subject of the episode is the the so called great j.
J Abrams talking about does he stink night? There was
a poll put up during the chat, which, for the

(00:48):
second time in the row, I have forgotten to check
the chat when it comes to the should you say
the poll results because I'm too busy with the show.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
So there you go. Jj Abrams has a strange career.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
That he's this huge name but has been quite averagely successful.
Yet he still is considered like some big Hollywood player,
which I don't really know why, but we will we
get into that. Of course, today with the great Liam
Macley joined us, we have the lovely Christian Black joined us,

(01:26):
and of course film Marks returns once again to discuss
whether or not JJ Abrams stinks. So what we did
with this one was, well, obviously we live stream that
on YouTube. There was a paywall or not paywell, fucking
yeah you know what I did say paywall. We put
it behind the membership tier because recently we've been putting

(01:49):
out a few episodes for free on YouTube, but this
one we're going to put it behind the membership.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Tier on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So you've got a huge entertainment on YouTube and you
want to see lovely lads, that's where you will see
us behind the scenes, ruining our eyes at each other
and regretting to do in this episode. Why do there
subscribe to the channel? Hit likely comments or whatever the
stuff you see.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's all great stuff. And then of course I'm at
the huge on Twitter, at the hugely on Instagram, and
I think that's about everything. JJ Abrams just kind of
say infamous. I don't know if that's even the right.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Term for the awkward crow baring in of sabotage by
the Beastie Boys into his films. So what we're going
to do during this episode is we're going to give you,
that's right, a soundtrack of the Beastie Boys. In fact,
you know what, we're not going to do that. I've

(02:52):
decided against doing any Beastie Boys music in this one
because I just remember we played a lot of clips
and audio drops, so I don't want you messing out
on the hilarity of the exact same joke being told
over and over and over again for one r blaughter.
So do you agree with our text on j J Abrams.

(03:14):
Do you have a different opinion word tweet Liam, and
not me because I don't care anymore. But what we're
gonna do right now is we're gonna go straight into
the ad and it is you say Hello Phil, Hello Liam,
and especially hello Jennifer Blatt's husband, Christian, Hello.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Judy stumbled through the door.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Whiskey breath that screamed down loud, Ela, he.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Wants the crowd. Story is flying battle stand never said
another sale joy fly.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's right, guys, But seriously, let's press record and we
are going to be joined, of course, first by the
guy who just told me that hilarious homophobic joke.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Liam, What is up today, dude? Bro?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
What's happening brother?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
How was the Oasis?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Just dude browing it up? And you know what that means?
Don't you needs this?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
If you would like to put your baseball cap on backwards,
that would help. But of course we're talking about dude, bros.
We're talking about the brewis dude that I've ever done
it up?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Dude? Bro? Phil? What is up? Dirt? Bro?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Dude Bro, It's like I'm totally duding right now.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
This guy is such a dude. I can't believe this bro.
And you know what, Phil, this is what I say
about Dirt Bros And Minim Metsal.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, I love that song. That's a good song with
great lyrics. And of course you want to talk about
Man's Men. One of the dutiest bros that.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I've ever heard of in my life.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I've heard that the Dirt Bros Stories about this guy,
I've had to be toned down because he's so wild.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
What's up, dird bro, Christian.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I'm such a dude, Bro. I literally just finished jacking
off to a picture of a chick Jesus.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That is so metal. Yes, so what the fuck up there?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But anyway, so what we're here to do today is
of course the beautiful and top jj Abrams, a guy
who was once considered interesting and then not so much.
I was just reading that he signed a two hundred
and fifty dollars contract with Warner Brothers and in that

(06:20):
five years where he was paid two hundred and fifty
million dollars, he produced one TV show that was canceled
after he had episodes. So this guy is the king
of the grift. And speaking of the grift, I just
had to place my home cinema once again. I blew
up the bulb and I'll explain how so to help

(06:42):
me cover that little seventy pound debt for a new bulb,
super chat and become a member and donate money, and
sell cars and steal for me and give me property
and give me deeds, send.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Me your bank details, everything you need.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And of course there was a poll for people to
enjoy in the free chot is does JJ Abrams stink?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Which I think are two pretty good options to give
for questions like that, Right, guys, start with Liam on
that question.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I think JJ Abrams is great. I just think I
haven't seen him. What's he produced or or you know,
you were right about the Warner Brothers thing. That was
the funniest. That was the funniest thing about the Davids
Aslav Warner Brothers takeover was the first thing he did
was sturdy publicity campaign campaign, This is mere JJ Abrams

(07:38):
and uh and kick him off of the Warner Brothers
a lot.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's what I would do, he Christian, Yes, sir, what
about this though? Come my lady, come come, eh.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I just finished telling you I was just come come
coming my Lady A moment ago. So jj Abrams, I
think you know was you know, early two thousand's wonder kind.
I mean, he wrote an amazing script that film regarding
Henry with Harrison Ford, where he loses his memory and

(08:12):
he asked to be learned, you know, how to be
a human. That's kind of his first thing before even Felicity,
which I'm a dude, bro, So I never saw that,
but I did watch Alias for the Chicks and that
was actually a pretty good show.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
I thought, Yeah, there was.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Some sweet hoos on that fucking show.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
I just got a text from Chad Zumac. He says,
you're using your soundboard too much.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, this is what I say to disco.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
I'm gonna sing this song for you.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. So Phil dudbro.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Bro, he's totally a dude.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, Like that guy had some sweet fucking bitches in
his fucking show.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You know what I'm saying, Guys.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh yeah, sweet like a candy cane shout out joy
ride reference.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Oh fuck, I.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Don't know what that means, but it soun's fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Eh. Carrie Fisher was a hot piece of ass, so
you are right.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, but only in the twenty tens.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I couldn't even look twice at her in the metal
Bikini in nineteen eighty three, but she really grew into
her face metal bikini.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, she flies through space.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, she was frozen in space, and exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
She should be frozen into my kitchen if the dinner
wasn't ready, right, bros, dude bro, Yeah, and see if
you watch that Star Wars three between me and you dudes,
she had some sweet, big fucking tits on her, right, guys,

(09:58):
that's good bro talk. So after the dud bro joy,
I think that was some pretty good stuff. Yeah, clip this, Yeah, dick,
your name is and she dances up my ass.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
There you go. So what we're gonna do is yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
By the way, and you mentioned regarding Henry, where Harsh
and Ford played a guy that loses his memory and
tries to act human.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I I that was released over here.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Known as the Making of v Indanna Jones five totally
roasted him because I'm a dud bro.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's what I fucking do, but even better than I Ross.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I'm sorry, but just being a dude, bros. Congratulations to
the new President of Ireland, Connor McGregor.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
AM I right.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Five times.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, such a he's such a dudely bro. He graped
the chick.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
All I'm saying is the guy is such a dud
bro that he did and got away with it and
he's still like to become president.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Fuck yeah, Oh that's it.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
We was saving for the after dud bro party. All
so we are going to go through j.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
G Aboom's dude bro catlog and shit like that, you
know what I'm saying? All one, two, three, four, five,
six of his films that he's made since two and six.
Third bro, it makes a movie and then hinds out
with some hot chicks for a couple of years.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
It is shocking.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
As I was preparing for this and you know, worried
that I only have an hour, I'm like, wait, he's
only directed six movies.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
You know. He obviously did a lot of television work.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
He did the pilot of Lost, which you know, really
if you go right up until like the last season,
that's actually, you know, a very interesting show. They just
didn't know what the fuck they were doing. So he's uh,
definitely done some great work. But shockingly, Hughesy. His first
movie is Mission Impossible three and I don't know. I
don't know if it'll bore your audience. But do you

(11:59):
know how that comes about? That he ends up doing
Mission Impossible three. It's a very dude bro story.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, some some hot bits with big tits. He was
hanging over there and Tom Cruise was like, dude, look
at the tits on this fucking hood and he goes, right, Bro,
I know, dude, and then he says, by the way,
Jordan did Mission Impossible three, and he goes, fuck, yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Well I knew I didn't need to tell the story,
so I'm glad you were able to.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
In Hollywood said who's the second best director after Brian
de Palma. It's a guy who created Alias.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, so I'm off the show.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Well, just in case, here, I'll give the pretend story
and I'll tell it quick.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Just randomly.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
JJ Abrams ends up on a flight next to Tom
Cruise and they hit it off and he tells him
about Alias, which he didn't know the show at all,
so he sends him the entire series on DVD. Remember
physical Media, hughesy and he like loves the show. So
he's like, would you like to make a Mission impossible?
And uh, it's like a golden ticket for a director
like wait, I can stop doing television because remember television

(13:07):
used to be dog shit. It's cool now, but back
then it was terrible.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
And two who did m I two?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
John? Right? Okay?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, so then Abrams did that? And can I just
shut out where he also? I'm looking here he is
credited as a writer for joy Ride and Armageddon. I
want to shout those flicks out, man, they rule, They're
totally due.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
I believe he did coming on.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I believe he did punch up work on Armageddon. I
don't think he actually wrote the screenplay. He's he made
it more awesome usually.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, he actually he's credited for co running uh Armageddon.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Oh, I was giving him too much credit. He's an
even bigger bro than I thought. If he can co
write with Michael Bay, he's the broiest bro that ever browed.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, he actually had a deleted Shane Bruce Willis pistol
whips the mediaite and that would have been fucking sweet.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So we will start with the two thousand and six
Is Makes an Impossible three, which was the third one
in the series, hence the title limb and after me
splaining that, after me, Dad broke splaining that.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
To you, Liam, what did you think of it? Makes
it impossible? Three?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I would say it is one of the ten best
mission impossible movies I've ever seen, And it's the one
with Philip Seymour Hoffman. So it's actually a really good one. Yes,
it's actually I think it's one of Philip Seymour Hoffins
like top five roles. And I wish I was kidding,
Like he does excellent work in that movie.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
That is the film that he was so brilliant and
not Philip Seymour Hoffman. And this performance is so good
that everybody can I do an impraction of Philip Seymour
Hoffman because of that film.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Bigo, do you have a wife? I'm going to find
her and I'm going to kill her and I'm gonna
grab her by the milkers bro.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Here's the thing, us, I never know if you're kidding
or not, but phil more Hummon is excellent in them.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
He's phenomenal in this movie.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
But Hues, he's never kidding, He's always he's always just
being husy.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think I three is the first one with Simon
Peg in it as well.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Correct Hey, interesting trivia that Simon Peg has mentioned since
he was a region alcoholic at the time of that film,
and he's actually drunk on screen.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
I don't know why you're telling us that he's Scottish.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
We know, no, he's English, which makes you more having
a quick wank.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, at least he's not Irish, am I right?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Guys? Though, Phil, what did you think of Mission three?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It was solid. I liked it better than two for sure. Yeah,
and uh yeah, I mean I haven't seen all of
the most recent ones. I think I'm maybe like two
behind or maybe one behind. I don't know as far
as because didn't like a new Mission Impossible just came out.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Right, yeah, earlier this summer. Yeah, they would they call
the final installment.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, the very undermarketed one. That would make a lot
of chance that you would know that Tom Cruise had
a new film right a few months ago.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, so I don't know. I'll give it. I'll give
I'll give it a three thumbs up. I guess for me.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Where are you putting that third thumb?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Phil?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Hey, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
The interesting thing is that supposedly, behind the scenes, Tom
Cruise had one of his schemes part of an organization
that he's a part of that is very nefarious by that,
of course, I'm talking about the Muslims.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Nope, the Screen Actors Guild.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
I would have nothing bad to say about anything else
that he's a part of. He wanted Scarlett Johansson for
that role and wanted her to pretend to be his
girlfriend and build all the media stuff about it, but
instead she settled for a loser like Ryan Reynolds.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
And now she's pretending to be Colin Jose.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Well, you know, time's got hard for her.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
So obviously well left be honest if her and not
fill them underneath the skin, she's getting a Harry pussy.
So who needs you? Christian? Or should I? Should I say?
By your duebro nickname here the peachy beachy bum daddy Dragon.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's right, Christian. What did you think of Mission Impossible three?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Well, when this came out there were only three and
it immediately was the second best in the franchise. There's
some better ones since then, but no, I honestly I
thought this was great. They needed a little bit of
a course correction after the John Moo won, which I
still don't like, and I thought that this is like, yeah,
this is what it should be, and it kind of
really is the blueprint for the subsequent seven films or whatever.

(17:57):
But it's also I would go so far as to
say it is a great movie period.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well time, for my own important opinion, I would actually
go as far to say The Mission III is the
greatest action film ever made.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
I think you mean that doesn't have Diehard in the title, that.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Doesn't have directed by Zack Snyder's second Rebel Moon and
that guy's the Dude Bro Award winner. But yeah, I
just think it's fucking amazing. Like there is not one
weird bit which is a recurrent theme in JJ abrams
films where he will weirdly put a song in a

(18:38):
film at a very awkward time where Ethan Hunt is
running out of them I six building whatever they're called
at Phil forst He's being chased and shot at and
we are family starts playing and it's like there was
no other song at all that that would have fit
that scene. But it had to be that binner with

(18:59):
a couple of chicks, a couple of black bibes, family,
Sister Sledge.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
See, yeah, well I think I think JJ owed money
to Sister Sledge. Actually, so I think that was the
only way to you know, make sure that he was due,
he got what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know it.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So I thought that was brilliant and that was enough
for me to think, Okay, JJ Abrams is a fucking genius.
He there's no way anything he can do will be wrong.
And we then had we had a whole three years
for his next film, which was not only highly anticipated,
but it was the first of a new reboot of

(19:43):
a franchise that he was handed the keys to.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Star Trek Liam What did you think of two thousand
and nine Star Trek get count. You know, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I actually saw it in Dublin, Killing Killing Time one
afternoon before show and.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Uh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Uh, I would somewhere near that sophisticated uh Dublin, Ireland
where they're going to elect Connor McGregor as the next
president of their country and uh and I laugh at that,
and I'm I'm in a country that elected Donald Trump
president twice.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Three times.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah there three times?

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Oh yeah, you got yeah, the guy from Yeah, the
guy from Home along too.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I was just gonna say he was great at Home
alone too.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You got yeah, me a Hall of Famer. So please
do not.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
But but anyway, so I watched it. I watched it.
I enjoyed it. I'm gonna give you some spoilers. Did
not enjoy the way that JJ Abrams was like the
best way to tell a Star Trek story is to
destroy everything that you love in the first ten minutes,
leave only Spock alive and uh, and then proceed to
make all the characters wrong and off model.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah for me, I remember really liking it.
But I remember thinking why did they call this Star
Wars film Star Trek, but because that's what he made.
And I remember watching thinking there's no way this guy
would fuck up Star Trek if and when they offered
to him, and as always I make the right decisions.

(21:22):
That being said, I've fucking loved this one. It's it's
maybe not the best of its front you know, of
the franchise, but I thought that this was brilliant and visually,
because I've got agroaphobia, I seen it on the IMAX
and not seeing at the start where the giant ship

(21:42):
comes after the tiny or the enterprice, I had a
full on panic attack, but thankfully I had drugs on me.
Oh yeah, and plus there was a great bit where
someone is speaking to Uhura and accidentally.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Call you here, which I.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Hey, yoh make dear, can't get like my desk. Well, Phil,
what did you think of two thousand and nine Star Trek?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
So?

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I remember going to the theater and seeing it, and
I wasn't the biggest Star Trek fan growing up just
in general, but I did like I mean, I was
like a big hater on it either, but to me,
it was cool. I just thought it was like a
cool approach on the whole thing. I'm not like a
Star Trek purist, so maybe my opinion on the entirety
of the film doesn't count in the grand scheme of things,

(22:40):
but I just for me, I remember having a good
time in enjoying the movie, but I never like went
and rewatched it again, you know. So that's my take
on it.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
But you know, Phil, it's not that you're you're not
a Star Trek purist that your opinion doesn't count. It's
the fact that you're not white, which is why your
opinion doesn't get.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, Hey, I'm hey, now, I am a little bit
we have whatever, But you smelled so.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Much the fiddle diddle with you whibbley wobblys.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I think I think I am a little bit of
a Star Trek purist, and my opinion counts less than
yours because I was the guy in the theater going.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Spock as a girlfriend, right ah.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, ooh and shit. I remember I remember thinking like, wow,
they modernized this, like I might get into Star Trek now,
and then I just never really did, you know. I
don't even think i've seen either of the I think
there's two sequels, right, I don't think i've seen either
of those.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Well, we're gonna be talking about one.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, So I'm gonna throw bar my.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Way in here because I know that I have a
very cool online persona and people are gonna be shocked.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
To hear this.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
But I grew up a bit of a nerd and
I was definitely a trekky, and I will let you
know the preferred term as trekker. And I loved Star
Trek as a kid. And I also think that this
movie is amazing. I think it's incredible. I think it
definitely needed to somebody to put the paddles on it
because the franchise was not doing well. There's a reason

(24:12):
you go and do this. I think the casting is incredible.
I think that everybody is great, you know, taking up
those roles. Chris Pine, I didn't know before this, but
he's very kirk. Zachary Quinto was on that show Heroes,
and he was He basically got the role because he

(24:34):
was like, well look at me, and they're like, yeah, yeah,
you're you're right. But I heard a room around Hollywood.
Let me put it that way, that because he was
a TV actor. If you were to look at the budget,
the catering budget is a lot more than Zachary Kinto
made on either of the first two of these films.

(24:56):
He did not make a lot of money, is what
I'm trying to say. But I think this movie is great.
It it's the only one I'll say it about because
it has the Beastie Boys in it spoiler alert. The
third one has the same Beastie Boys song in it's
sabotage and I was like, okay, we did this, what
are you doing?

Speaker 6 (25:13):
But this one's great? And I agree.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
I felt like, man, this guy knows how to put
a new coat of paint on an old starship and
get it up in the sky.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
He's never gonna let us down.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, and just the dude brought up you mentioned the
third one which we won't be spoken about, the hottest
alien chick ever and proof that a non white woman
would look better with white chin, right, guys.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
White or the better?

Speaker 4 (25:51):
So who did the third one?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Then?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Which ones? Did Abrams do?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Abrams did? He does?

Speaker 6 (25:56):
One? And two?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Is James Wan Star Trek Into Darkness?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Justin Lynn?

Speaker 6 (26:02):
My god?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Jury is you think all these directors look the ship.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
But I but I'm surprised you must have liked that
one because what I said about it at the time
it was that movie really felt like Trek Fast, Trek
Furious because there's like a dirt bike chase, there's all
this like on the ground ship, and you're like, oh,
this is not a Star Trek movie.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
But it was kind of fun metal.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
The third one is basically the creative meeting was, let's
do a third one, and shockingly they haven't done much since.
Just really good TV shows that everybody's watching.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
One of them is good.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
One of the shows is really good. There's four other ones,
but one of them is good. No Stranger in the
Worlds is a great television series.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I will say Star Trek Star Trek three. I don't
even remember the name of it, but.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Beyond Going Beyond.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Beyond was was garbage. But I was very excited because
Quentin Tarantina it was gonna make the fourth one. And
the entire cast were like, yeah, we were never gonna
do this, we were never gonna do this again. But
Tarantino wants to do it, and I think he got
as far as assembling a writer's room and they actually
like hammered out a whole plot line for the movie,

(27:16):
and then you know, Tarantino is add and he was
already four movies ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, but the problem is when he came in to
do one, they he realized, Fuck, there's nothing I can
completely stay it fromm and pass off as my own.
I guess I'll claim the right and original story instead.
He's a fucking hack and he's only made two good films.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
I think he saw Zowais sald on his feet and
was like, oh, no, I'm out. There's just something about
it that didn't work for him.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
By the way, I did.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
I know, you don't look at the poor chat, but
Liam's friend KB was sniping us at one point. I
don't think he has anymore, but I hope he comes
back because I'm sure he's gonna learn a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Oh yeah, but the just when Zoey's Aldama note if
you watch TV show lion Ash, she shows her fart
box quite a few times. I must say, hey, just
before we move on to the next one, we get
a nice super child here from Duke of.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Just Do It.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
One ninety nine. Rada Vido stinks? Can we all agree? Christian?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, although I don't know if stinks is a strong
enough term. Liam, how do you describe red to Vito
whenever we talk about him after we go to the movies?

Speaker 6 (28:28):
What's the word you use?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Hitting the head with a large steel beam when he
was ten, That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, But while he was eating cereal and towards the
face hell by his.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Mum, I would say, he definitely wishes you well and
we'll leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, And some people want to throw him down one
can well?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Can we talk about that?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
We're good? And Phil rada Vido stinks? Would you agree?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
P U Smelly.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Pay well?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Speaking of stinks, when I get into the next one.
Two thousand and eleven.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
J J.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Abrams first and only a completely original film that he
has made in his career.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
I don't know if i'd use the word completely original,
but I know it's shit.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
This guy's roasting them already. Two thousand and it's super It,
which of course also had the song Don't Bring Me
Down by Elo Crowbard into the film for no reason
other than J. J.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Abrams likes E.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
L O.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Christian. What did you think of Super It?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
I really enjoyed this film, and I thought that he
was able to show off we get a lot. This
is where I feel like we really get the Lens flair,
which we didn't talk about for his earlier films, but
this is where he just kind of really leans into it.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
But look, it's it's very much in the vein of
a Goonies or an ET.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
And I thought that the young cast was was you.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Know, the actors were cast well, is what I'm trying
to say.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
And I feel like that's something that I consistently find
even when you look at his television work, you know.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Uh So I think that this this was good. I
enjoyed this.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
I didn't find it bad in any way. Did I
love it? I think I've only seen it the one
time in the theater, but I did. I do remember
being like, oh that was good. Well you're wrong, okay,
because can you say it with a lens flair please,
I've seen it on It stinks.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's a It's.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Basically a when Jimmy Well, Liam is a notorious dance
music fan. When they they do this to stand bait
for so long and by the time they dropped the beasts,
your your drugs have already started to wear off and
started to beize this. This meet is kind of ship though,
And the fact that they made this fill in twenty

(31:02):
eleven and it's like two hours long, and to this
day there's no actual shot of the fucking creature. You
never get to see what it actually looks like. That's
so dumb. That's some fucking gak trying to stay from Jaws.
But he doesn't realize we couldn't see the shark because
they didn't have the fucking technology for it. This dickhead

(31:23):
stole from Spielberg because he's a retard, not because he
doesn't know where to fucking at the rack. Probably it
was a stupid idea and he stinks Liam.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Well just before Liam jumps in.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Sorry, remember our episode where we proved that m Night
Shyamalan stinks and there's really no doubt about it. Signs
is not a good movie, but showing us the alien
is the biggest mistake that he made in that film.
I kind of like not knowing, you know, That's why
the X Files worked. It's like, yeah, there's something going on,
but we don't really know.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I always thought that she and the alien at the birthday,
at the kid's birthday party, sing was an excuse to
stop blacking off.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Just remember, I remember l Fanning was ten in this movie.
So be careful with what you say.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I know exactly what I said. Liam. Did she think
of Super eight?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Well, first of all, not showing the monster is a
great move because just like in a Christians example, I
saw the movie She Devil, and as soon as we
saw Roseanne Barr, movie was just over.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
So I will say, let's make got that joke for
thirty years.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Right there in the back pocket.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
There's no thing called the improvisation, gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
It's always always a firm tell close on the show. Here.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I actually have to gain some weight for that. I uh,
that's a boy. That's a deep cut for you improv fans.
But you improv fans are gonna love it. I only
saw a half hour Super eight I thought, because a
half hour, and I was like, this reminds me of
the movie Poltergeist in that Steven Spielberg didn't direct this,

(33:12):
but also he did, because clearly every single camera move
like was just like Averyone's just like all right, So
what would Spielberg do next? Okay, he would do a
slight push in here to indicate that the characters are
feeling slightly trapped now. And the more he did Spielberg moves,
including the lens flares, the more I just couldn't stay

(33:35):
in the story.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I forget to point out, I'm actually kind of offended.
Did you claim to be an improv comic and you
made a Rosean joke? Fat joke without mentioning that if
she was in super it, they would have to change
the spelling of the title.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Super eleven and a.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Half, No eighteen eighty. I know, I was just a
or it would be as you as up.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Shoot, it.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Would have to be super eight tons Phil, how fat
do you think rosannas?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I don't know, but she could sit on my lap?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Hey, why can't you walk? Who needs legs? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Exactly who trigger sexy?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
How did Phil a quad father drop after you just
said who needs legs?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Anyway?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I don't like Sandy inward?

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Phil, what's the funniest thing you've ever said?

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Toothy Cook? Phil? What did you think of a super so? Again,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
I don't have much to add. This is one again
I saw and I was like, oh, this is cool,
and then I didn't. I wasn't so much into like after.
I don't think I watched. I think I did own
it on DVD, but again callback but yeah, I'm just
I wasn't like over the huge fan. I don't recall
it that much. Don't you see the alien?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Though? Like at the end?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
I think you do? You get the sheep for something? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
JJ Abrams was so inspired by Steven Spielberg for this
one that he actually also molested the young underreage doctors
behind the chins and then affected their careers if they
opened the mark.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
So, you know, would you like to tell the audience
that that satire? Do you want to use the there's
a few words you should throw in after a statement
like that.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
This is on the air.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I love Sheep.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I don't know if you know this, but Spielberg can
afford a lawyer or two, it's my one.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Not based on his recent from his recent box office
in there as well.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Surely can afford a lawyer Steven Spielberg obviously.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Yeah. What we're trying to say, Hughsy is you're that's
alleged what you're saying, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Of course he's allegedly making money these days. But yeah,
super it was such a flop that even after Kim I,
they had Spielberg attend the fucking NTV Awards that year
to the sketch to try to build up some type
of hype and it didn't work. But speaking of hype,
we then had to wait two.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
More years in entire four year break between Star Treks
for one of the dumbest films ever made, Star Trek
into Darkness. Phil, Why don't you give us your opinion
on Star Trek into Darkness? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Well, Again, as I mentioned earlier, like I didn't, I
had no interest in this. I didn't see the third
one either. I'm looking online here. So he didn't write
this one. He didn't write either of them, but he
but he directed this one and then he said fuck
it too. After this one. It was that bad. Is
that what I'm gathering?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Well, no, he moves.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
On to his next project after this, which is but
also was a bomb.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah it wasn't. See. The problem is with Star Trek,
and this guy will go into my review of it.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Who you put in a Star Trek and it doesn't
matter the budget you have on it, You're always going
to get the sea audience. So as the budgets on
the Star Trek films went up and up and up,
they were making last and last profits. So it became
kind of redundant to try to make another this fucking

(37:32):
Star Trek one. Like I like it, but like if
you tried to show this the Human they're gonna think
that it's ship dude. Bro, Like they would say, like
that whole thing where they kept the top secret that
the bad guy was gone, it's like who cars, It
doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yeah, so the movie is not good no matter what.
And they went to the point of insisting the Bennet,
the cumberbotch cumber Batch comer, snatch whatever, that he wasn't
playing con in the movie because I guess it leaked out.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
And so then when you're watching the movie.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
There's this moment where it's like, my name is Kan
and we're like, yeah, we know it didn't hit the
way it does. And they're doing that because I think
most you know, nerds and non nerds alike will point
to Star Trek two as being the best Star Trek.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Movie and you know it. So it's like, well, let's
have con in this. But it doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
And the thing I wanted to go back to about
the first one, and it's relevant to this, is they destroy,
as Liam pointed out, they destroy the continuity in the
future and everything. But because Star Trek fans are the
way they are, they're like, nope, all the continuity that
existed is still intact. He went back in time and
created this new timeline. So long before people were putting

(38:55):
multiverse in the title of their movie, this automatically became
came a multiverse because they didn't want Star Trek fans
to be like, oh, so all the enjoyment we've had
for fifty sixty years went out the window.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
So they wanted to keep that intact.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
But then they go and make this movie, which is
I mean, what about Bennett Cumberbatch makes you think that
he is this uh, you know this specimen from a
lab that is the perfect villain, the perfect human.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
You know this from the eugenics wars, that he would
be British, the fact that it was Riccardo.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Montlebon that I bought. All right, we should all want
to be like Ricardo Montlebon and his his pectoral muscles.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
And how are we supposed to know that Bennett Cumberbatch
is tough if he doesn't worry his baseball cap backwards?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Did brew?

Speaker 6 (39:45):
That's a great point, Like, I don't even think he
has a baseball cap? Can I?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Can I break this down?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I'm sorry, go ahead, No, No, you go ahead, lean, you.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Gotta you got to turn your chair around and sit
on it backwards.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, yeah, break this down. There's a there's a cat
named Shakespeare and he was the original rapper.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
For those of you who who might not be nerds,
who don't understand what Christian's talking about, the original Star
Trek timeline is called the prime timeline, and that's the
one that we all know from the TV series and
original run of movies with William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. Now,
when JJ Abrams destroyed that timeline, he created what we

(40:27):
call the Kelvin timeline. So the Kelvin timeline is actually
the timeline that the trilogy of movies exists, and then
there's another timeline with But yeah, no, I will say this,
it's very interesting that everyone involved was like, Okay, Cohn

(40:50):
is clearly the most popular villain in Star Trek history
and save the franchise after Star Trek the motion picture.
So so let's just pretend that we hate like, let's
just married everybody and everybody's a fan is gay and
hates Khan.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Uh that's fair and good, right. No, I was gonna
say something that, but black people didn't realize you're live.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
I really just felt like George de Ka was going
to enter the conversation, but it didn't happen.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
So this movie is, this movie is not good.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
And uh, just to be sure, I went and saw
it a second time, and boy was it not good.
And I will say I believe that I don't own
this on physical media. I think I have all I have,
even the bad Next Generation movies, but I don't have
this one.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
It's I gotta say it's the worst Cumberbatch movie ever.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
And that's that, dude.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Then start in Doctor strange in the multiverse of madness.
I mean, that is a movie that.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Was so bad.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
It's not bad in the way this is.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
I'm a Marvel apologist, so I'll stay out of that conversation.
But I thought it was all right. You know, it
had John Krasinsky in it and Patrick Stewart, so you
know it could it have been all bad? J. J.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Abrams then did not return for the next Star Trek film,
Star Trek Beyond or Emission impossible for because he then
signed up for twenty fifteen Star Wars The Force Awakened.
And I was a fucking enormous Star Wars film before

(42:39):
this point, so I could not wait to see this film.
And I have a horror story of being in the
cinema where I almost could an argument with the father
of a blind kid because they were sitting near us,
and he kept describing the film to his blind kid, going,
there's a spaceship here, and it's and it's flying up

(43:01):
over the thing. And I actually had to say, Tim,
you've gotta be fucking joking me. This is a midnight
screen and people get these tickets over a month in advance,
and you're fucking talking. So I actually moved away because
I was going to hit him. And by him, I
mean the blind kid first.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
And and Tommy, this character Finn, he's the kind of
people that when you smell them, you know to go
to the other side of the street and make sure
that you walk much quicker, just like me.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
According to hughsy Well, I'm just saying, go.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
But the thing is finish what we call an illegal
migrant in Ireland.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, but this film is so fucking dumb and that like,
first of all, I would have said this thing to
that guy John Boyega that played Finn.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I would say, listen, we're doing a film that's sat in.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Space with robots and magic pars and giant dogs or
whatever all this, but the least believable thing about it
is your American accent. So why and also the sheer
level of fucking right. So this guy is a has
been forced on his first day of being a stormtrooper,

(44:16):
and we have an evil an evil sith who's so
powerful he was able to stop and hold the laser
and mirror for a period of time. But later on
that day he then can't have a lightsaber fight with
this with the same stormtrooper who's never touched the fucking
lightsaber before in his life, but they can, but he

(44:37):
can hold his own against him, if you know what
I mean. Bro, I was just sitting watching this film
losing my fucking mind.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
It's so shit. But we'll let Christian know his his runt.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
So I think that.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Those of us who are fans of South Park would
feel that this is Star Wars Memba Berries. It is
also kind of the Dane Cook approach to like, hey,
remember Transformers.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
They were more than me? Yeah, you know, and that
would be what passed for comedy in the early two thousand.
So this is just like, well look at this. Remember
look at the fucker Millennium Falcon.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
We haven't seen them one of your falcon whoever.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
This is so great, And then they get the original
cast in there, and you're like, well, it's gonna have
to be good. So it's not.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
But it's also like, you know, when you go and
see one of your favorite bands, not Oasis, and they
only have like one original member and they're like, we're
gonna play the songs you like, they're not gonna you know,
It's like, oh, it's like when Guns and Roses had
had a bucket head and it was there was nobody
except Axle in the band, So this is kind of

(45:47):
like it's yeah, but you're still gonna hear.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Walking to the Jungle. It doesn't matter. That doesn't sound
like Slash.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
So that's why they made this movie because it's really
for dumb people to be like, oh, it's more Star
Wars and it is one of four five Star Wars
movies where the plot is basically, well, we're gonna have
to blow up the Death Star, aren't we, and that
they do it again in the ninth one. So it's
not always what the plan is. It's like it's the

(46:13):
same movie time and time again. So it's they're playing
the greatest hits. You get to see everybody. I don't know,
but so I remember enjoying it in a purely popcorn
kind of way of like, oh, you know, Harrison Ford
is back for a while.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Oh is that a spoiler? After ten years?

Speaker 5 (46:34):
And I don't know, I think that I thought that
Daisy Ridley was fine, you know, she doesn't ruin the movie.
But what's his name from Girls and the Greatest movie ever?
Meg Alopolis? Why can't I think of his name?

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Adam Driver?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (46:52):
I mean this isn't even the movie where he has
his shirt off.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
We'll talk about that at a moment. He just did
not feel less like like someone from outer space.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I just want to say Christians told me the story
of how he met his wife and about his kids,
and he wasn't near as passionate as he was just
now talking about This.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Is Star Wars.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
That's important. But went saw Garden State on our first date.
All right, what else do you.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Want to know?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Also, it's only four to forty five Eastern time, so
Noel might have left Oasis by now. We don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
That's not funny.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
That's that's definitely not for they're they're they're playing at
the rose Ball this weekend.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
That's not fair.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, I don't think kind of jokes like that. Fuck you.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Hey, how dare you call me Clay Dabbler? You motherfucker?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
But I was small.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Here's the thing I I I like, like everyone else
our age group. I grew up with the original Star
Wars trilogy. I love the original Star Wars trilogy. And
then George Lucas made a shitty trilogy and then that
was the point where it's like I guess I don't
love Star Wars that much because like he made like,
Star Wars can be bad and I cannot enjoy watching it.

(48:09):
So when I came when I started watching the jj
Abrams Star Wars, I was just like, all right, this
is Star Wars, you know, and it's like the Star
Wars I remember as a kid, and you know, just
like it filled that like nice little nostalgia thing for
me where it's like, ah, there's there are my friends
Han Solo and Chewbacca and uh oh, there's my friend

(48:29):
Princess Leiah.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Oh, here's my.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Friend Luke Skywalker. All my old childhood friends are here.
And then the movie ended and I never watched it again,
and I had no feelings about it whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
What about you, Phil.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Well, Uh, I mean yeah, so sort of what Christian
was saying, like they did a good job of kind
of reintroducing like my cope for how shitty the movie
was basically was like, hey, listen, they are reintroducing this
to people who like sort of the way episodes one
through three were reintroduced for like my generation or whatever.

(49:05):
And I always thought those movies ruled episodes one through three.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
You know, people gonna die.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
I mean, yeah, that stuff sucked, but like, uh, like
for me, I was a kid, so I didn't that's
it was. I for sure had a shirt with jar
Jar on it at some point in grade two or
some shadow.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
No, don't lie, Phil, you still have a jar jars.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Yeah, I'm wearing it right now.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
But that's actually what the JJ and JJ abrams stands for.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
So I was okay with that.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
But like the whole trilogy, not to like jump ahead
or anything. I really dislike the whole seven through nine.
The worst thing from the trilogy, the last trilogy for
me though, actually happens in the Last Jedi. However, I
don't know if we're going to talk about about that

(50:00):
at all. It's just the lay of freezing and space ship,
like I absolutely detest that. But yeah, this in Force Awakens,
I liked it. I don't like it as much as
other Star Wars stuff, let's just put it that way.
In hindsight, and I mean going after, like coming out

(50:20):
of it, I was like, I don't know, this isn't
my favorite Star Wars thing, but like maybe they can
do something with this. It's reintroducing it was cope, like
I said, and then I progressively hated each movie after
that worse, and so yeah, I mean that's my take
on it.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
There's there's an element of fun to this, though, phil
and comparing it to the prequels is it's unfair to
compare it to the original trilogy.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
I was just like the original trilogy.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
Yeah, and except Fast and Furious usually obviously, but.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
That's trilogy whenever. There's actually three trilogies within that one front.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
But and I know that J. J.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Abrams does not direct The Last Jedi, so we can't
really spend time on it. But that's the one where
it ended, and I was like, oh no, I didn't
like that. And I didn't feel that after any of
the Prequels. I didn't feel that after episode seven and.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
There. I don't know that there's a movie that I
hate more than that. I've seen worse movies.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
And saw four of them last year, but I detest
The Last Jedi and it was so misguided. They had
to bring JJ back for what is currently the final
film he's ever directed, and that movie is not good.
But he has to kind of take the etch A
sketch and shake away all the bullshit that they did
from Ryan Johnson and in the Last Jedi to try

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and salvage it.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Spoiler alert, it didn't work any Liam disagrees with me.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I think those two should should be forced to undo
each other's Star Wars movies for all eternity. I think
they should before keep making Star Wars movies and then
just contradict each other as it goes. I want to
see a hundred movies like that.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well, that, of course brings us to the final one
we're talking about here, Star Wars The Rides of Skywalker,
which might as well have been called as Star Wars
Go fuck yourself, Christian, you were rounding away there.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
What was your take of Rise of Skywalker?

Speaker 5 (52:25):
That it was at least an attempt to make good
the damage of the Last Jedi. Again, it is not good,
but I'll tell you what. It was at times fun,
It was occasionally exciting. It might have been with the
action sequences. That's the parts that were fun, and it
was interesting. And look, every few years, Ian McDermot, the

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actor gets a call and it's like, hey, you don't
play the Emperor again.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
He's like, really, the.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Character that has died multiple times? Sure? Yeah? Why not?
So good for him that he's always ready to take
that call. But no, it doesn't end in a way
where you're like, oh, I feel like that trilogy.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
You know, if they knew that JJ was going to
have to come in and do an emergency on episode nine,
that guy Colin Trevorrow was supposed to direct it, and
then that falls apart, and then they're like, well, we
definitely don't want Ryan Johnson to do it. He should
have done all three then, for better or for worse,
it would have been his vision. But so yes, The
Rouser Skywalker is not a great movie, but it is

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not the worst Star Wars movie.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I just want to I just want to say, let's
not allied over the Colin Trevoro story because it is
the funniest story in the history of movies, where he
was not only going to make his Star Wars movie,
he was then going to make his whole Star Wars
trilogy after that, but was Ryan Johnson.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
By the way, Ryan Johnson was also going to do
a trilogy after the Last Jedi.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
There were a lot of trilogies that were gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
He made a movie Wait, Wait, Colin Trevor made a
movie called Book of Henry, which I recommend everyone in
this audience like, turn off the sh go watch Booker Henry,
then come back to the show.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
It is so bad.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
It makes Craven the Hunter look look like Iron Man three,
which is not the best Iron Man movie made.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
It makes Craven the Hunter look like Madam Webb.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
It does. And you know what, Madame Webb is a
very enjoyable bad movie.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
Wow, compared to twenty twenty five War of the World.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Sure, can I tell you something, it's very rare movies
so bad that I go like, this Book of Henry
is the worst. It destroyed Colin Trevoro's career, which Steven
Spielberg had to resurrect. Look, it took the Magic Burg.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, well not really, because he did the the last
what was it, Jurassic Park sixth that was so such
a disaster behind the scenes that John Apatari ruined his
own career by making a comedy about how bad the
making of Jurassic Park was.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
Wait, is that what the Bubble was about?

Speaker 1 (54:59):
The it was a complete sh.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, the Bubble is based on the making of Jurassic
Park six and and you can tell who's supposed to
be who, like who with David Duchovny is clearly playing
fucking Jeff Goldblum and that's fair, so thenyway, But there
is a scene directed by Jill Appetite where his own

(55:27):
daughter there's a sexy dance, so let's investigate him. Phil
What did you think about the Rise of Skywalker?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
I mean, yeah, I don't know it's but it's a
toss up between, uh, this one and Ryan Johnson's the
second one in this trilogy as which one I hate more.
I just want to ask, because I mean, I got
nothing else to add to it. Listen, was Snooke being
Emperor like the Emperor or a clone or whatever? Was

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that the move?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Though?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
I mean, this is something people talked about a lot
long time ago. We're many years in the future here.
I don't know. I guess I'll give it up to
Leam and Christian and Husey. What do you let me
ask you guys a question? Do you guys think that
was the move ultimately to like end things on?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Now?

Speaker 4 (56:12):
It's like the end of Star Wars. Man. I know
we're getting some like prequel stuff and there's some stuff.
Is there a new trilogy plan.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
That we're gonna do something with ray Daisa Ridley will
push the story forward.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
And yeah, but it's a lot of like revisiting past
eras like there'll be a Mandalorian movie but that's set before.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
I don't know, but it's after Return of the Jedi.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
But that's cooler like Rogue one rules. You know, I
thought that movie was awesome. So, like I'm just asking
you guys, is that the move was that the move
ultimately like we're gonna leave it there?

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Or if your question is is that that what the
intent was when they made episode seven? No, I think
that they just were like it was kind of I
believe it was for Cocta. I think might be the
word was a way to fix that. Correct me if
I'm wrong, Lamb, but.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
I think it was very unsatisfying that you set this
up and be like, oh kay, he's dead now and
it's really like the Emperor.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
So, you know, I don't know. I go aheadly.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
I think if you're gonna pull a cheeseball rip off move,
you want, you want to announce it on Fortnite before
the movie even starts. So that way, when someone like
me who doesn't play Fortnite starts watching the movie, I
am completely confused from beginning to end. I was like, Wait,
Palpatine's back, but what happened? Wait? So do people know

(57:38):
Palpatine's back and why is it in the opening crawl?
Because that sounds incredibly dramatic, like something I might want
to see in a movie that I'm watching about the
Star Wars universe. But instead they just announce it in
Fortnite and have him like make a radio broadcast and
then assume that everyone who goes to see the movie,

(58:00):
which includes people who were in their seventies who loved
Star Wars when it first came out, they're just gonna
know from Fortnite. I'm sorry I keep repeating this Fortnite thing.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
I was genuinely and it.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Really business you off.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
I didn't even know that until you just said it.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
And yeah, I don't get emotionally gained by Star Wars content,
but as someone who paid fucking I think almost twenty
bucks to watch this fucking movie, I would like to
get all the information in the movie that I'm watching.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
You should have been on the A list back then.
I don't know what you were thinking.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Well for me, I remember going to see this because
of course they come out into Samburg. It was almost
Christmas time at me and Frand went to this place
to try the Christmas pizza, which was fucking disgusting, And
I had more fun sitting in the cinema trying not
to shit and vomit all over the place than I

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did watching this pile of shit. That dumb fucking black
guy then plagues the character Ray or whatever.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
His name is.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Finn. All he does in this film is shout Rey.
Usually he should be saying sist at the end of it,
because that's all he does in real life. That fucking
pain in the arch cunt he put up at the
end of it.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
That's what women yell at the bar when you see this,
when they're done talking easy.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Well, you know, am I allowed to put my penis
in your vagina right now? Well, women say when they're
at the bar talking to ehughsy is, Oh.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
This Star Wars film is so bad that jj Abrams
didn't make like he's making a new film now.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
But it took him all this time to get Anathon
green Lit. He got one TV show green Lit since
twenty nineteen. It was so bad that even fucking Disney said,
I don't know if we're going to make any more
Star Wars films for a while. And Disney can't stop
sucking the de dec of Star Wars. Eh, this was

(01:00:05):
a fucking disaster for everybody involved. And I also heard
there was a financial figure despite making over a billion dollars.
This was a pile of shit. And I would also
use that term to describe at this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
How much of it is his fault though, and him
cleaning up a mess though that he or do you
think he fucked up bad on the first one? So
then they went away from him and then they're like,
please come save this thing that you already fucked up or.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Well, I mean, I think they made a new Star
Wars trilogy because Disney got the rights to Star Wars,
not because they had.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
An idea and go, fuck what about this? For one, two,
and three, they just thought, keep turning them out, give
us a fucking prequel to the first one, even though
we don't really need to know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I mean, the thing is, I know that these two
in cels here probably have thoughts about Kathleen Kennedy. I'm
a Kathleen Kennedy fan, but the idea of I am.
I think she's doing a pretty good job. But the
idea that she was like, I'm gonna have three different
writer directors come up with their own visions of what
Star Wars should be, but also make them tell a

(01:01:22):
continuous story, but also have them never communicate their story
ideas to each other, so they're just picking up and
dropping off as they go. It's a terrible idea for
a multi billion dollar generating trilogy. Just it was destined
to not be good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, Liam is bitch organizing the dinner party. Send that
a multitexture her right, Christian right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Liam is such a staunch advocate for Kathleen Kennedy. He
wrote her a letter to personally thank her for making
Star Wars good again with the Acolyte, which I think
we can agree with some of the best television we
ever see.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
So you're rightly, and she really turned it around.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
No, but I did.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I did write her a letter asking if I could
intern at Kennedy Marshall. So let's just say I'm a big,
big fan of Kathleen Kennet Will.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Speaking of excellent TV shows, I have started Ben's watching
only Murders in the Building which is surprisingly hilarious of
not expecting that, which is what I'm gonna go run
off and do right now, it with no shirt on
because it's weirdly warm over here. He Christian, what plugs
do you have?

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
Well for people watching or listening to this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
In the next couple days, we have a really big
episode of the show that I co host, Who Are
These Broadcasters? We were supposed to do it on Tuesday,
but then apparently Howard Stern's Kat's wife died, so he
didn't come back and answer all the questions we had.
So on Tuesday at two pm Eastern eleven am Pacific,
we will analyze and listen to what Howard says is

(01:02:59):
next for him, because for some reason he's made us
care over the last month and then not showing up
just infuriated us. We've got a couple of guests on
the show I do co us that show with Eric
Zane and a young kid on the com Mister Carl
Hamburger will be on with us, and Eric Nagel the

(01:03:20):
Sex Bagel will be on with us. So please check
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Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
So if you want to hear me bomb on a
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(01:03:59):
you know, comic book movies and what.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Phil has been on some of the shows that I
do about that. We're not so much laughing at Sorcerer,
But is that really who that says it is in
the chat in the port chat? Is that really karmack
X because he says.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Your video was so hilarious recent. No, I'm just kidding, bro,
You're cool.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
He says, Liam, you're better than this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
You're not better than this, Liam, I mean, what would
make karmack X think that you're too good to be
on Usy's channel.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I mean, I'm not even good enough to get invited
on carmack X's show.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
So I don't know you did it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Oh boy, that's because you haven't sucked pot dictions dick yet.
That that's the that's the past on that fucking show. Hey,
Sorcerer says, you look great, Liam.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
What do you think of it that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I think Sorcerer's very very generous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
I have been to the gym twice this week, so
I'm definitely looking really good. Huh ar. Yeah, actually, Karen excited.
I have a special to promote. Let's talk. I have
a special coming out in October on on Sorry, man,

(01:05:12):
I'm very tired Amazon Prime in October. It's called West Coasting.
It'll cost you a dollar ninety nine to watch it apparently.
And I also just learned as coming out as an album,
Please do not listen to the album. Please only watch
the special. And that's all I'll say about that. It
only kind of works if you watch it beginning to end.

(01:05:36):
And also, I have a I don't have a podcast
quite yet, but I do have a sub stack right
liam dot com. And that's right whether you mean w
R I T E. Or the kind of alt winger
that Hughsey is when he's talking about black people, and
go to right liam dot com and read some of

(01:05:56):
my semi hilarious ramblings.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
You actually have broke out there. But that's okay. I'm
gonna go watch my show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Kevin Brannan actually was streaming us. So we'll be leave
with this one last little shout out here and would
say bye bye everybody and bye Keavy Brandy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I hope I don't hit you with a copyright strike.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Brother, Hey me a hundred bucks Kevin for being on
your show.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
And did believe me?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Now you take away the big as part of me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Baby, please don't go. Okay, thank you Phil, thank you Liam,
and thank you Christian. What we're gonna do next?

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
As of right and eye recording this on the Thursday.
The next episode I am recording is on Saturday, which
will be if the returning Shuey egor it has been
quite a while, that's would be a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
There we'll go. Thank you for listening, everybody. This was
a good time and there will be more. We're going
after Paul Thomas Anderson next. So there you go. You're
gonna get it and you're gonna get it good and
it is hugey bye bye