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November 26, 2025 71 mins
MY GUESTS ARE SUING EACH OTHER! In one of the craziest turns of events, Shuli Egar has filed a lawsuit for comments made by previous guest Ava Raiza and (according to gossip, she literally found out about it while live on the air during the recording last week!).

So of course I set up a round table of Little Lemmi, Schmuel Buckman, Christian Bladt and the debuting Luigi Greenberg to break down the lawsuit, who's likely going to win the case AND we go over the reaction to the Keanu Thompson vs Lemmi & Dan fight from episode 239.

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Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is husually Hello everyone, and I say this all
the time, and every time I said with more and
more meaning. But the double verse is becoming a darker
and darker place every week since literally the last episode.
While we were on the recording, one of the people

(00:49):
on that show, if Verisa was threatened with or was
dealt a lawsuit by a guest from the previous episode,
shoey Egar. It is a crazy turn of events. I
didn't see it coming, but there you go. It happened

(01:11):
before you. You're wondering, what's that song in the background.
It's called Waiting for snow By Band Falls, So there
you go. That is the name of today's intra music,
Waiting for snow By Band Falls by his Christmas album Slayre. So,
following up what I just mentioned about the lawsuit, I

(01:32):
set up a rund table. Of course, got to figure
out a way to cash in on all this shit.
It's crazy, what's going on, Like, people are fucking nuts.
People are shooting at each other, trying to fight each other,
shut each other down, all this stuff. But anyway, I
set up a round table of myself, everybody's favorite little

(01:54):
Lemmy Schmill Buckman, Christian Blatt and Luigi Greenberg making his
day gave you to talk about all this stuff, and
it was Lemmy his birthdays. Of course I was completely
vulgar to her again and again and again. It just
seems like the type of thing I would do. What
a nice guy. But of course, if you want to

(02:16):
see the video version of tonight's episode, you go to
Hugely Entertainment on YouTube. All you're gonna do is hit
the like button, maybe leave a comment, because it helps
with the algorithm. You don't have to do anything else
unless you really want to and become a YouTube member
or gift memberships. It helps a nice guy like me.

(02:40):
I think that's everything. This is a decent enough and
and of course it's another Christmas episode. You will hear
a ton of Christmas songs in the background. My voice
is a little horse because I was a Bob Dylan
last night. Had a couple of drinks, as they like
to call it, So you go. You may hear lot
of cough during this, but there you go. We're getting

(03:04):
ready to jump right into this round table and it
is to Lemmy, Schmell, Christian and Luigi. Hello, Josie stumbled
through the door.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Glassy blazing, wanted.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Whiskey, bread that screamed down loud, and.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
He wants the crowd.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Story is flying off his tie, songs and battles not
stand on every set another sail. He never fails.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Jes raising Sun Jules.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yes, sir, the Griftmas season A continues, and of course
we can't do any grift and without the birthday girl herself.
Schmil Buckman, Schmill. How you doing today?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I'm wonderful. It's just happy happy.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I told you not to the impressions of certain people's axes.
But speaking of which we're gonna, of course bring up
the today's birthday girl. Everybody knows there. Luigi Greenberg, Luigi,
how you doing today?

Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'm great? How are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm doing it pretty pretty manly, if you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I do not.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Okay, And was I supposed to do something?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm sorry at least two things. But speaking of two
big things, and we can't get enough with this, it's
her birthday today. We're gonna bring up the big birthday girl.
It is, of course, is Jim Blatt. Are you doing today?

Speaker 7 (05:02):
I believe what you were looking for was respect walk.
I think that's what you wanted, right, and.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Of course maybe we're gonna slice up the cake and
mice big way. Kind of one of the more talked
about people at the minute. Of course, it's the actual
birthday girl herself. It's a little Lemmy, Lemmy, how you
doing today?

Speaker 8 (05:28):
Are you talking to me?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yes, we're talking with you. Happy birthday, Lemmy, yay.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
The rest of you.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And you know what Lemmy I would like for a
birthday was telling himself off Mike the gift of hitting
the like button. Everybody, what are you thinking about that? Levy?
When you like that?

Speaker 8 (05:53):
I would love that hits the like button.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
There you go. Perfect. But I gotta say a couple
of Basically, we did an episode that's got a lot
of people talking, a lot of people jealous too. Of
Lammy had a clash on the earth with the Kiki,
who I don't remember a problem with that all. It
was awkward and unfortunate that it happened, but I've got
to say that it was worth it because of well,

(06:18):
jams like this came up.

Speaker 9 (06:19):
I like getting fucked in my ass and doing cocaine.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, you know, I enjoy that one. So I suppose
we was to start with the Christians in this one.
You were watching that live. What did you think of
that episode in Lammy's class with Kicky? Did you think
it was fair or was it a pylon or what
would you take?

Speaker 7 (06:42):
I think that Lemmy very calmly handled the fact that that,
for once in her life, Keanu was outmanned by which
I'm trying to say she's a horror, but you know,
I think that she was not well equipped for the
conversation and she she's the perfect fit for stuttering John's

(07:02):
live streams, because you're not going to get outwitted by
anyone on there. And I don't know, I think let
me tell me if I'm wrong, but I felt like
you went relatively easy on her. There was, of course,
you aren't being particularly kind to her, but there was
no real pushback. And you know, Gino being in the
same little box that they live in really added to

(07:23):
the conversation.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
But let me do was that was it?

Speaker 7 (07:30):
I don't know. Maybe maybe you were, maybe you actually
like her, and I've missed the narrative the whole time.
I thought you really didn't lay into her the way
you could have.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
I don't hate Kiki, I really don't.

Speaker 9 (07:40):
I don't I'm not like I'm not a fan or anything,
but I think she's fucking adorable first and foremost.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
I really do.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
I think as long as her mouth closed, yes, Okay.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
I don't want to be rude, but yes, but I'm
a big fan of correct definitions.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's all. I thought. You're a big fun this.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
I like getting fucked in my ass and doing cocaine
just on her breath.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Go ahead, lem me, you're a big fun of.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
I completely derailed. I lost it.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
Definitions, Oh yeah, I'm in the definitions.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Don't memberships?

Speaker 7 (08:22):
You're giving the lemmy for her birthday? Us?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Why sixty nine? Of course? Hit the button? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Can I ask is was there any backstory to that
that maybe that you're willing to share or maybe just
that we don't know about, because uh, I'm just kind
of curious if there was any sort of I don't know,
just bad blood between you at all. And it says
okay if the answer is no, I'm just curious if
there was.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
We had a little scuffle on BYB a while back,
but like you paid nice and stuff, and like I said,
I don't hate her, but like Scarlet Hampton's a slot,
don't tell me she's not.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
But I would say she's more in This might get
taking out of context dirty hor and slut.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Saying slut was being kind if I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
But I mean she she's also made a good bit
of money from throwing that thing of hers on.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
You know, I do believe she has slut listed on
her LinkedIn page, but not dirty horror.

Speaker 9 (09:21):
So excuse me, dirty dirty horror.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
To be offended by quote unquote slut shaming would suggest
that they were proud of that phrase.

Speaker 9 (09:33):
Well, in my opinion, if you feel ashamed for being
slut shamed, then you are a slut. If you don't
feel ashamed, then you've got nothing to bitch about.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Who who has nothing to bitch about?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, I know someone that doesn't event in the bitch about.
That's one Shmiel Buckman, the most narcissist chill bug. But Schmiel,
you get to see some of the argument and stuff,
and what was your take of all the stuff that
happened there? Baby, big budget.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Let me, let me, let me, let me did a
great job. Keanu puts herself in a position where she
can be she can always be the victim, and sets
it up that way so that her show. Then she
can do the victimhood thing with her mom and with Gino,
and everybody's against me. So it wasn't like it was unexpected.

(10:31):
I mean, I feel bad for Kiki for the the
scoop stuff getting hurt, you know, being domestically abused, but boy,
she sure doesn't care about it when it comes to
other people. It's like she turns on the feeling the
feelings for domestic abuse victims. She can turn them on

(10:52):
and off like a light switch. You know, totally ignores Aaron,
but we'll go after I don't know, she just totally
ignores Aaron, but then she'll make claims about other people
that may or may not be true.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, but the thing about it, I was saying this,
so the night is that me he didn't like. All
he did was sort of push her away. That doesn't
exactly kint is breaking an arm. He was just sort
of saying, shut up your mouth, which is well Christian man,
his wife, and she still shot sacks of them the

(11:28):
first time.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Shocking.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I for a guy that's supposedly smart, you know, meat
is is all these things, he's smart, he successful. I'm
embarrassed for him being with this woman and she's got
problems and it's it's look, he's just take he's taking
advantage of her, whether or not it's physical or not.

(11:54):
There's this this kid has real problems and you know
it's like poking the retard or picking on the retard
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, speaking of which, this name, how do you even
know how to pronounced this? Alien? Wrecked? An alien trek?

Speaker 7 (12:13):
I like, like I like him track there you go.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Happy birthday lam me. Yeah, But I just the whole
thing is that part of me does feel sorry for
Cally because she's in this position on online where no
matter what she does, like ausy Guy's gonna do two
or three are episode A part he accola what we'll
do in an episode where or whether she does something

(12:41):
chilly or she does something basic, like they're going to
mock her. And I think that she's unfortunately in that
position where she's also the victim. I fail of pylons,
where there's night people now joining on the kiky abuse
just because a bigger challenge of doing it. And I

(13:03):
think that's kind of fucking stupid personally.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Well, even if you thought that only people whose personal
texts she's read live on stream would be allowed to
gang up on her. That would still be quite a
few people.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
But I thought that honestly at the start, that the
the Kiki and Lady Kay if you still funny is
I thought that was the work because that that that
came out of nowhere and he went never talking again.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Pardon Luigi, know I was agreeing with you that something
seemed off about it, that it was it seemed so
sudden and weird. But I'll admit that I was kind
of suspicious of it too, but being very very uh
unaware of Kiki's reputation and everything. As soon as it happened,

(13:57):
I was like, oh, that doesn't seem like a very
good person.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
But I don't know.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
I actually don't know enough about Kiki. I feel it
to have like a real strong opinion. But that really
was on the con side of the ProCon list.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
I can put one photo in the private chat that'll
show you everything you need to know about her, if
you'd like, Luigi.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Oh you did already. Okay, we've been looking for.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
How did you get so close to it?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I was just the follow in my news not for
the first time, right, I goot problems. But when you
say Luigi saber to Kiani's reputation, and what was the
reputation you had heard of?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
So here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
I know that I'm very involved in the dabble verse,
but there are just areas of it. I just have
never really dipped my toe or stuck my finger, and
that was just one area of it I didn't know
enough about.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I know, I know a lot about Gino.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Because I was a big I followed already Lang for
a long time. But when she, uh, you know, called
John a child, that was really the first I had
heard of her. I think that was about a year ago,
and I was like, Oh, that's cool. She seems like
a cool person. And then you know, now we've come
full circle and she's his friend, and I don't know,

(15:28):
I just kind of really tuned out out of her,
out from her aura or whatever you want to call it,
just her space. But I'm also a very big, pretty
antisocial podcast fan. Haley's a friend of mine, and I
have not enjoyed the attacks that she's made on Hailey,
especially when it comes to the domestic abuse stuff. I

(15:50):
feel like that's really really below the belt. I feel
like it's very gross. I just cannot imagine I can't anyone,
let alone a woman, having an opinion that would support.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Someone who is.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
A domestic abuser, after, you know, advocating for domestic abuse victims.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
It just it seems just so weird.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
It's even weird even to come up with all of
the thoughts that I have about it, because so many
of them are just so contrary to one another, because
it's very it's very two faced.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Everything about it's two faced.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, I'm not for domestic abuse, but I'm for people
hitting the like button. It's like not made hit Scarlet
right in the face.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
But the thing you see, I'm not supposed to laugh
at that after I just make a statement.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
I mean, the difference is that the like button deserves it.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I think if the like button didn't want to get hit,
it wouldn't be behaving that way while you're trying to
have your soaldmich I. It is a like in tract
ass Ole. So there you go. The guy is also
from Norway, thank you very much. But I just think
that with the it is a strange one for Kiki

(17:10):
and the A, it's kind of like the like. It's
the great Bart Simpson says, one of my topical references there,
thank you very much. He think you're damned if you're
do and you're damned if you don't, which didn't make
any sense really. I think basically people are going to
go after her no matter what she was. I've got

(17:31):
to say, lem me and Dan, we're piling on a
kiki because Scarlett Hampton does what what do you call
it again, Christian?

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Oh, I've called it so many things? Uh what do
you remember it as?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Can't fucking there you go? Yeah, giggle? Scarlet Hampton contexts right, Buckman, correct?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
But don't you think the Keanu is it on herself?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
How do you mean? Hunt?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well? This stuff that she says about pretty anti social. Uh,
the going going after people all the time, hooking, you know,
and look her and Gino all the time. All they
do is spend their time talking about how everybody else
is a piece of ship except parents, but the rest
of us are garbage. We've got that stupid little voice

(18:28):
of hers, just going on and on.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I don't know the voice. Can you can you do
it for me? Schmiel? I'm not aware of it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Hunt I wish, I wish I could, but I can't.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
We we need, we need to have passion, Buckman, let's go.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
So I and and try to ask sexy too.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
My father and I were on and we were coming
from Paris, and the stewardess asked if I'd like a
glass of wine, and I thought, of course, I'd like
a glass of wine.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Done smelly horse scene.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
It's a lot easier for schmol to just try to
act not sexy because.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I don't know about any of you, but I am
hard as fuck right now. I just hope nobody clips that,
because it's not like Backman has any critics out there,
and the speaking of it with a compliment here by
the lovely doctor Chai good, good work, Bachman. Nobody says

(19:32):
Backman better than Chai. Check I life forms with Little
Mir they talk about Backman once or twice a week.
But so that's that's the Kiky thing. But basically Lemmy,
So you don't regret it, and you're definitely definitely gonna
do it again. Definitely, No, I'm.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
Not gonna do it again. I don't, like I said,
I don't hate Kiki, but she does invoke a certain
I don't know, frustration. I don't know is that the
right word.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
Sexual frustration?

Speaker 8 (20:05):
Yeah, yes, intolerantly your butthole.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's so easy for you to do that.

Speaker 8 (20:10):
I mean, it would not be perfect by the way, Kiki, that's.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
Clean, Hughesy, what do you think about Kiki the Powerbroker
that she's connecting two of the giant faces on the
dabble versus Mount Rushmore, that she's putting Stuttering John and
your friend Aaron Eimholtz together and they'll be doing an interview,
possibly as soon as next week.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think that'll be really good for Arn in the
year two thousand and nineteen.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
So are you going to watch in super chat? No,
I'll probably well.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
See. The thing about Stuttering John is he did have
a very interesting career twenty years ago. But the problem
is he's done up with five thousand interviews in those
twenty years, so there's there's nothing and really that Aaron
will be able to get out of night Milandez's dad
that we haven't heard million times before. So but I

(21:09):
do think it'll help Iarn's numbers, which I think was
really fair because he's had a pretty rough the last
few days. Hit the like button? Am I right?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Or what?

Speaker 7 (21:20):
He had some glowing things to say about you on
his show this week he watched that Kiki episode and
he didn't like what you had to say about why
he records his interviews.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, why would he record?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
In twenty twenty five? I think he thought that I
was going to try to fuck him over.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
I mean, I guess, but of all the you know,
I think starting John is far more likely to accidentally
get him in trouble than you would be too intentionally.
But yeah, I mean, that's that's why my buddy Tuokey
doesn't want to go on Aaron's show because Aaron wants
to record it. And it's crazy because we all know
how Aaron feel about you know, super chats the goal. Yeah, yeah,

(22:05):
I came up on this little piggy whoever said that
hell Raiser sixty nine?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Now, yeah, that is the create that the hell Raiser
sixty nine?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
You get it?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Let me Jesus Christ, I'll your birthday to both of us.
But the thing about not going live in this day
and the age is silly because like we were talking
about when I went on the Toe, we were talking
about boxing. In the day or two that we spoke,
the news had changed, so it was all really Ody

(22:36):
did and then stem it looked like a pair of
silly gooses. Didn't know what we were talking about, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Yeah, that's why we live streamed earlier today when we
talked about favorite Springsteen albums, because I didn't want your
favorite Springsteen album to change, and you know, and then
you were would have wanted to talk about the rising.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, Jesus Christ, don't even to joke about that. Lemmy
is can really confused.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
I'm confused. When did you go on m Holt show?

Speaker 10 (23:04):
No?

Speaker 7 (23:05):
Oh, well, yeah, you went on his Saturday interview show, right.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, if I remember currently, we recorded last Friday. Okay, yeah,
but his thumbnail was was not weirdly he put the
focus on boxers instead of me. Very strange, but there
you go. But the real reason why we're here, why
I've got a Luigi here, of course, is over the

(23:28):
last three days excuse me, like swig water, I'm very hungover.
Oh Jesus, in the last few days, and I said
this all the time, the double versus getting darker and
darker and more serious. We've had a physical threats, we've
had the people, docks and all kinds of shit. But

(23:50):
just in the last few days, we've literally had which
seems like Eva and Stutter and John have really gone
after Shirley and have been filing copyright strikes or whatever
kind of shit going on. I'm not actually sure, but Luigi,
I would guess that you seem to be more up

(24:11):
to date on what's going on here. Can you fill
us in on this shoey versus a EVA A shoot, No,
there's also a hole in the y.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Always the firm, Luigia, Yes that.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Yeah, it's really weird, man. I mean, there's a lot
to talk about. Uh, but I'll be I'll be honest.
I don't have any inside information, so all I have
is basically a lot of speculation as to what's leading
up to a lot of this stuff. But yes, supposedly

(24:49):
Eva file a copyright strike. I was really hoping you
put that up there. Now, show your buttthole. No one
wants to see my boot. So Ava apparently filed a
copyright strike against TSN and TSN in a fun work

(25:16):
sort of way, acted like it stuck and that they
were going to be on Rumble that night, but then
aired their show on YouTube as.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Normal to rub it in the face of Ava and Ava.
I don't know which one she says. But then supposedly.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
John filed a copyright strike against TSN that night, and
then yesterday, from what we understand, TSN filed a copyright
strike against John. But again I don't exactly know that
that's all the truth. I think there probably could be

(25:58):
some impostors they are filing some of these.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
We don't know who is.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Who exactly is filing these, And I believe John was
on today, which would suggest that he defeated one of
the strikes, which I think maybe TSN wasn't the one
who filed it against him.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
What do you know about that?

Speaker 7 (26:22):
There's a screenshot aliji that said that it was supposedly
from John's show, that the strike had come from John Melendez.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
That's exactly what I'm talking about, the impostors. I think
that was totally someone random and if nobody knows exactly
how these play out, anyone can file a copyright strike
against anyone's show.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Where it gets weird is that YouTube tends to.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
Lean heavy into the person filing the strike in order
to save themselves of liability, and they kind of go
overboard in taking down the show. But then you're asked
to provide information after that to prove that you own
the copyright that you're claiming against them, and that's where

(27:09):
it tends to crumble and fail. And so that's usually
when someone withdraws a strike or YouTube doesn't enforce it anymore,
and then the channel or the show whatever goes back up.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
But yeah, anyone can do it, and it sucks, but
that's the system.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, And that's the thing because keep them one hundred,
we get that a lot. Well, you'll get a hitters
bro who will try and flag the content or try
and claim it as their own. And you're always having
the contest which copyright things, which in turn, if you

(27:47):
are proven to be false to be like on a
strike that goes against your count, then you can get
shut down for following the filing it. So I think
that it's a really this is all trouble in. I
forgot to say, was there's a pole question who's going
to win this bottle between the Shuley and Eva. It

(28:10):
is up there and now it's currently sixty eight percent
or like seventy percent, go back to sixty eight in
favor of Shueley. What an exciting piece of action. That
was the most exciting part of my week. I can't
believe it almost Kim. But Christian, from from your perspective,
do you see this type of stuff as the start
of the end of the double vers because if people

(28:30):
all start going after each other, well fucked right.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
I think that that's actually why the the flagging and
striking will die down, because you know, it'll just be
a counter strike, a counterflag. And everybody seems to be
having a lot of fun on Rumble, which is I
know where Shoeley's ended up, and your buddy Aaron loves
to talk about how well he does over there. Rumble
really seems like it's a great place for all of us.

(28:57):
But in terms of the Ava Shueley thing, there's also
the clip where she said that she knew she you know,
she hopes the FBI raids his house because she's certain
that there's I guess we need to call it CP
on his hard drive that he is a PDF file.
I love that we have to talk like idiots when
we talk about these things. But I think everybody knows

(29:19):
what she said in that clip, and John just you know,
as always was ignoring Ava, so we let her say
it because he was, you know, somebody was flirting with
him in his private chat.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
I disagree a little bit there with you, Christian in
that I think that John said, I know right, like
he said something along the lines of yes, like totally
supporting it, and I mean it was it was a
short comment, but well, because it came from John, I

(29:50):
have my own rim shots.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I apologize.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
No, no, no, I should never do have a number shot.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Uh no, but but he did.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
He did something where he was like, yeah, I know, right.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
But then I feel like there was a moment there
where he kind of caught himself and was like, oh,
wait a minute, maybe I shouldn't have said that YouTube
tends service and.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah, that was a really weird thing.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
And of course, what I really don't love is like
the whole after thought of you know, trying to repair
it or just you know, going into you know, disaster
mode or whatever you want to call it, where suddenly
on Twitter she started flooding people's comments saying obviously I

(30:35):
was joking and obviously I was drunk, and people were
just like very I felt like they were kind of
being very direct with her, saying no, no, you like
you can't really talk your way out of this, because
if if Suley does if Shuley does try to sue you,
which I'll be.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
Honest, I don't really think that was all that true,
but all that sincere But if he did, context is
taken into issue.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Into consideration of that, and the context of it was
she very, you know, very clearly said it's a fact,
and then she even backed it up by saying everybody
out there knows it, and that was really that was
just I'm still kind of I'm still kind of reconciling
what led her to say that, because that was a
really weird thing to say, way too over the line,

(31:24):
even if you hate somebody, crazy thing.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
Well, and John co signing it yes might be problematic
considering he's already in a lawsuit with Shuley and someone
that some of you refer to as Lady Kmart. I'm
not familiar with the gentleman, but I hear that he's
being sued.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Do you think though that because I was pretty shocked
to see that Julie was saying he was going to
sue her, because I kind of imagined that he would
jump to that type of a reaction because I didn't
think anybody actually believed he was saying that whether she
was drunk or or let me do whatever you call

(32:06):
it these days, I just thought that it was like, oh,
she's she's talking ship on on the degree at John
Melandez show, the prestigious show. They'll be all aim for it,
and I just thought them that just more seemed like
Suly working Eva into panicking, if that makes sense, or

(32:27):
am I completely stupid Bachmann?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You know, I don't think Shuley ever said that he
was suing Ava in that comment. He implied it, but
I think he was really firing a warning shot over
John's bow that they might be coming for him. That
he co signed it, and it's because they're in the
they're in this lawsuit already. I asked Ava today about

(32:54):
it and after sex out of his response, well, I
didn't get to see the rat so there was no sex,
And she said, I can't waste any brain power on
that one. It's all so stupid. So as for the
other stuff, Shuley was lying about suing me to delect

(33:14):
from his embarrassment getting owned.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
And.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
She then goes on to what no lawyer would ask
him to make that statement publicly, and he completely misquotes it,
leaving out me saying allegedly, and in my opinion, which
outside of a debate about those being exonerating words, in itself,
is a more legally sound case of defamation because he

(33:40):
deliberately made a claim misrepresenting something I said that could
hurt my reputation without any caveats. So we're back to now,
Ava's a victim of Shuley. Somehow Shuley plotted to get
her to say that just so he could come after her.
It's all fucked up. It's it's like a bunch of
little children.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
Where Wolf of Cicily and the chat a moment Ago
pointed out reminded at least me that Ava immediately the
next day started saying that she was drunk and she
didn't mean what she said. And you know, I think
John likes that excuse because I don't know that we've
ever seen a live stream where he isn't already drunk,
so it sort of gives him carte blanche.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
As they say, to what you're saying, though, to what
you're saying, Usie about getting them wound up, I agree,
I mean, I think that was the purpose of it.
And then we saw the reaction from John, which was,
oh well, I told my lawyer, and I can't make

(34:46):
sense of it. It's it's just really a bunch of craziness.
And I agree, it's it is not the fun part
of the dabble verse. It really is taking away the
enjoyment of it, the spirit of it. It's people trying
to be funny and bust each other's balls, and now
you're just making it so personal and direct, and I
agree it very well.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Could be could be the end, yeah, because because I
don't know if you would agree with this one, Lemmy,
but it's kind of getting to the point now where
there's some people are just gonna have to be like
actively ignored because if they're gonna just trying to start
shutting everything down, then it's then it's time to get

(35:27):
out of that type of fucking community. Because like people
like like if you look at W A t P,
like allegedly they're making like five figures a month off
their Patreon. There's there's people out there like stuttering John
here are fucking furious about it and every and he's
even done that where he'll snipe stream something that you

(35:49):
needed to go, oh vowl the report. I'm I'm gonna
get them shut down and it drives them fucking mental
because I don't know if Lemmy has any answer to this,
but when there's these losers that maybe we're not getting
along with so much, and they just can not fuck
off because they're obsessed and just need to hit twenty

(36:11):
four shaven because not because they want to blame others
for the ship they were going through. Right, let me
hit the like button.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
I think it's uh.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
As much as I don't like it, it's going to
exist and we're going to have to exist around it.
It's never going to go away. But it has seemed
to have ramped significantly, and it's to it. Like Luigi said,
it has taken away the spirit of the whole funness
and silliness of the Dabble Verse, and it seems like
everybody just wants to destroy everybody. It's like the it's
like fucking pirate pirates on on the sea, fucking blasting

(36:46):
fucking cannon balls at each other, and it's awful. I
miss Corndiff, come back to WGNN.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
We need you.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
This all started when you left.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
We do need Corndiff back.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
We all miss Corndiff.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Here's a quite a comment I liquid Cryptid that's kind
of interest in them. Well, you see, Eva is a
terrible person. She goes to ship space to spend a
art of her innocents when she gets owned on the internet.
Schmiel's show is a favorite place for her to run.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
What do you think of it?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
That Buchmann.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
She has not been on in quite a while, pretty
much since this John stuff started, because I can't figure out.
You know, Ava's a shit star. She likes to cause trouble.
She used to come on the show. I would challenge
her on things. I tried to figure out why she
was doing the John stuff. I can't figure it out.

(37:43):
And this she really, she says to me. Honestly, she's like,
she loves John, she thinks he's great. She thinks all
these people are mean for going after him. But she's
all over the place, right. It's almost like she doesn't
turn If you offer her a link, she's not turning
it down.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I don't know if she's an awful person or not.
I think the stuff that she's been doing is pretty shitty.
Complaining about Joe downloading her public streams and then claiming
she made and making them private after and then saying, oh,
you can't use them, that's terrible. I don't, I don't know.

(38:24):
I'm I'm lost in this whole thing, Hughesy, No way,
I'm Joe Biden at the Trump debate. I just I
don't know. I really don't know what to think. I
don't know what, like anybody's end game is. I've asked her,
what's your you know, what's your endgame? What do you
hope to get out of this? I don't get a

(38:45):
decent answer. She says that she again she likes John
and she thinks the way he's being treated is unfair.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
I relate to Shmiel more than I care to admit, actually, like,
I don't know what's going on, and it's confusing and
weird that I can't figure it out.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
And that's yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
It's well.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Look, as long as as her endgame is half as
entertaining as quad Father's was, we'll all have a great
laugh about it.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Having that mice problems trying to bring some of these
comments up here, Bachmann turned on IV I messed up
plot twist. Is there any form of tension there? Buckman,
No note at all.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
We we just haven't we haven't spoken in a while
until today, but we used to talk a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
More, even from SAMBI even fights with anyone anywhere at anytime.
Last night she was fighting with like sixty people and
Tommy Jordan's chat at the same time. Interesting trivia fight

(39:55):
Me and Tommy Jordan may actually be related, true story
it no one's backing her up? What fucking safe space?
Do't BS.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Let me? I don't know what safe space? I guess
I missed the safe space comment. Well, I think I
think we.

Speaker 7 (40:21):
All know where it's safe space is. It's with with
her buddy John.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, but I think that I had. Of course, Eva
was on the show the other night with lem Me,
part of the infamous slutch him and Gates, I think
they call it, And I don't know. She even came
across like really nice to me. She seemed like a

(40:46):
good laugh of d M a few times. But I
have to say that this but in fact, well here's
more of the question. I would say, does anybody knows
specifically what it is that caused Surely and Eva to
fall out slash not even get along? Because I remember
seeing a clip of them on some short but maybe

(41:09):
WATP where where they they just seem to be taking
shot of each other, and I think it was PDP.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
I don't know who had it that week, but I mean,
surely just for the Sholey network, I understand he just
stopped inviting Eva on. Sorry to talk about your friend
this way, well, because she's terrible On every single stream
I've ever seen her on, she brings nothing, and John
doesn't even pay attention to her, except apparently for when
she's saying something libel with.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Do you think that there's more to it with John
and Davis friendship because.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
We are the friends with benefits? Yes, I do think.

Speaker 10 (41:45):
So.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
It's well known that like hard Sterne used to keep
robbing around because it meant that he could make jokes
about two groups of people at the same time, and
that would be his excuse. She's like, oh, no, roses here,
you know. So the groups of people are those husy
good question, Luigi, the end ones, you know, the news readers.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I like that one, Lemmy.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Thank you? Yeah so a and and that's what maybe
a part of me thinks, maybe that's one of the
reasons why they're keeping thing around.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Are you are you psychoanalyzing stuttering John, where you think
that the only reason ave is there is with the
hopes that somehow his kids see it and go, oh, okay,
he's changed. He's okay with trans people, despite the terrible
jokes he made about trans World airlines.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't even I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
I don't even know one did.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I don't even think that it's his kids that he
cares about. I think he's trying to get hard sternes
oh attention, because that's why so ridiculously blah blah blah
anti Trump, even when Trump it wasn't president for.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
Those did you ever hear his pre I don't call
of Trump? It was amazing, so funny.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, the president. There's a refrigerator running.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
That would have been funnier.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
There's any time.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Stuttering John's funny is when the people did an impractionion
of him. Speaking of which birthday girl, Lemmy, of course,
everybody hit the like button for Lemmy's birthday. She loves
that ship. That weirdo, Lemmy, do your Stuttering John oppression
as you read this ship with child please.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
Voltaire, thanks for the five dollars.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
What are the odds that Ava shows up unannounced on
Stuttering John's doorstep one day with the scary intentions pretty
high based on what we know about those types.

Speaker 7 (43:47):
What types, Well, I think the scary intention would be,
you know, below the way stuff. I don't think anything violent.
I think that that's the intention being referred to YouTube
terms of service.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, but the thing is she has been getting I've
got to say one thing in her defense. So she's
been getting a pretty rough online like the thing I
think it was last week or two weeks ago where
Jamo for b YB was putting out her what's the
term you have to call it, her not dead name name. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
Yeah, I've been in chats where there are people who
just dozens of time keep dropping what apparently is the
dead name. So there are people that are very determined
to put that out there.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
But do you think that that's something that maybe that's
something that's got her on the edge where she she
might thinks that people are kind of out together or
bring that shut up or whatever.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
I'm sorry, I was distracted, Hughsy Can you bring up
Moon Cricket's comment right there about the middle hang on.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
I would do it, but.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Crickets it his wig smells like cat piss and cigarettes.
Thank you, Crickets. I have to I have to put
the chat away because I got too distracted by it.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, but I just think that really
this could with Shuley if he is shouting hurt. In fact,
here's more of a question, what albums If Shuley's thing
gets taken down, he actually could shoot?

Speaker 7 (45:24):
You mean you mean t s N the whole network
getting getting what we call Cardiff.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, when you think about when would not make you
and maybe nervous of having a back on your show
just in case it were to backfire.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Answer is Kiki.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, we will get Kiki.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Look I my please, answer is peaky no answer.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
My opinion, my opinion of of of all this stuff
is that I think we're giving both of them too much.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Carter, but I gotta, I gotta pause you there. Can
we get the ones in the chat if we want
shmiel buck when the answer is Kiki, Because if we
get enough ones we're gonna get, We're gonna get what
you call a shmil buckhole.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
That was the name somebody said, I said, Buckman.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, I'm trying. I'm just trying to prove that caddy
Z is the lowest hanging fruit there is. So gay
guy in a cowboy hat and make up. Anybody can
do that. You don't need a special talent.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Okay, look at all these ones here. We need to
hear Shmiel buck hole. Please, baby, I don't know that
I can do that.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
I can't trying, though.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
I have put a hysterical video if we want to
get Kiki doing an impression of someone that most was.

Speaker 11 (47:00):
With snaggletooth, snaggle tooth, club foot, club flot I no
longer have club feet.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
I don't have club feet.

Speaker 11 (47:07):
I don't have club feet. Fuck you Kevin Brennan for
telling me I have club feet. Snaggletooth, snaggle tooth, club foot,
club foot, I no longer have club feet.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
Okay, I like her.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
Now we've we've checked off the impression box that we
can move on.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
No, I'm sorry. I tried work.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I might wait, maybe I'll slide into it. But you're
I don't think that John thinks that much about this.
I think you got a on a on. She gave
him a little, you know, a little push, and he
just continues to have her on. It's not like he's
got co hosts knocking down his door, right, and he

(47:57):
gets more views with her than he does on his own.
It's more abused with her than he does with the
other people he's streaming with.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
He's streaming with anybody else right now, because I know
that Rob Sall seems to have left him, and even
Clay Dabbler, I guess they had a falling out. So
is Ava the only one left? My buddy Nick Graystone,
who he was on talking about metal bands or something.
But I haven't seen anybody other than Ava in a
couple of weeks, now have I wanted?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Today?

Speaker 7 (48:26):
I thought that he had a big falling out with Clay,
but you know what, he had a big falling out
with Vince the lawyer and then was on this week. Yeah,
that's what I mean. He's just always coming back, all right.
So I with drawn the comment.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I apologize his arguments with Vince. His hating events always
last about fifteen minutes. But and that's the question to
use these how much is Vince behind what's going on
with John? John's not a deep thinker. I feel like
Vince is pulling puppet strings and pushing this forward, and

(48:59):
all he has to do is tell John I don't
worry about the Ava thing, and John will go with it.
I thought John was very happy with obvious comments. I
don't think he backed I don't think he backtracked at all.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
This is an interesting one by Uncle Jemo fix it
a notorious friendly wrestler, Jimmy savel A good.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
That's why I love It's one of your heroes.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
Right here is.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I think he actually had a match with Bob LaVey
during his wrestling career, or at least they traded tips,
you know, and stuff like that. That's right, I heard.
But he says that that Vince is behind it all.
That is a theory going around. Let me, do you
think there's a chance that she gets completely wasted on daywine.

(49:49):
Do you think there's a chance that Eva is some
hard working, stuttering John on behalf of Shirley or do
you think it's just really she hates Schuley.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
No, I think it's she hates sho.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
But if it was a work, it would be a
fantastic work, it really would, and kudos.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
It is fun. What when you think about that theory? Greenberg?

Speaker 6 (50:11):
Yeah, I actually agree with Lemmy. I I at this
for a very long time. I was a holdout, thinking
that it was a work and that she was playing John.
But I think more than anything, I just wanted it
to be true. At this point, I've I've been completely convinced.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Yeah, she hates. She just hates truly.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Sam Bibley, He's always pretty smart with his tics. Dave
Sarah was. By the way, Dave Sarah won bast hair
out of the Dauble Verse and one of Dab's polls,
I'm just saying.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
The craziest thing we've ever heard. We all know it's
producer Chris.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, Dave, Yeah, he's more hair on his face in
his head when it ended. He's a very hairy baby.
Davis Sarah was very wise months ago when he told
Eva on Shmiel that he was trying to be a
hybrid guy in a troll at the same time and

(51:13):
it would cause issues. But I'm a troll to most people,
so shrug.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
I'm team Sam Bibley. I don't see him as a troll.
He has great taste and shows that he watches.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I just hate that it's come to this, that it's
all fucking that it's getting so serious, because it's getting
like it's getting worse all the time, Like people more
and more are fucking people like I was talking to
down the other day and like, none of us are
making like hundreds of thousands of dollars off this type.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
Of stuff speaking, but you're not.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
No, I'm the only one making millions. But it's like,
I like doing this. It's fun, Like it's a fun.
It's sort of hobby to kick back and for people
to hit the like button. And I'm sure everybody's hit
the like button right now, right lemmy.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
It's fun screwing around with people that you just don't
normally get to see on a regular basis and you
can have conversations and talk.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
That's I feel like that's all it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Here's gonna thank the doctors like pen A s wrinkle
inspired an army.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
I'm very opinionated about the doxing. And as much as
i've I've goofed on John and as much as i've
you know, incurred his wrath, I'm not at all, uh
going to suggest that doxing is okay, not even for John.
As much as I don't like him or you know,

(52:47):
whatever issues I have with him, I don't think that's cool.
And even you know, I'm not a big fan of Eva,
but I don't think anyone should be doxing her either.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
I know it's not even.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
It even feels weird saying out loud because I feel
like someone's going to hit me with one of those
boom hot take. But there are people who think it's okay,
and that sucks. I don't like that at all, And
I think that's the source of why this is all
feeling so serious now, is because it's not.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
It's not cool. I really don't.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
It makes me like not want to be a part
of it. When as soon as I see shit like that,
even with John, I don't like even for John.

Speaker 7 (53:22):
Well, yeah, I mean it's fun when we're doing all
of our online bullshit and we're saying things yes, And
I think it's the gray area with like Vince sending
beers to John's house, you know, because he already had
is that it's like that that makes me laugh, But
you know, somebody showing up at his house, I think
that would be messed up. You know, even although when

(53:44):
Hughsey's buddy Chad Zumac did it, it was hysterical. He
had a pretty good note that he left for him there.
But in general, I think when it crosses into real life.
That's actually what the problem is. You know, exactly exactly
one of Hughsey's heroes, Nick Fuintes, was recently saying this
about you know, he's a he's an anti semi and

(54:05):
he's like, people shouldn't be shouting anti Jewish stuff at
Dave Portnoy when he's out in public. It's like, the
online stuff is one thing, but you don't actually bring
it into the real world. That's where it gets sucked up.
And if Nick fint has said it, obviously it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
But Schmiel, you've been in the middle of a whole
load of like a fusion stuff the minute. Do you
ever get oh tough guy schmil Buckman who refuses to
do that excellent impraction the highlight of the episode if
you get onto this in your kiky voice, Hey, what
do you think it would these fusic Do you worry

(54:41):
that they might come after channel's like yours soon? Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I do think so, Husy. I'm wondering though, is it
is it John? This is why I think this is
about people in the background, right, I don't know that
it's John or Shuley or who well John, for example,
striking or is it some random doing these strikes and

(55:09):
then saying it's it's John. I get the stuff against Shuley,
but the thing against the strike against John yesterday, I
think it unleashes these trolls that are just gonna start
launching random copyright strikes against people, and we're all gonna
be chasing our tails.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
And it's it's not It doesn't bode well for this
And as a person who's been subject to just a
bunch of bullshit, Uh, it's just it's personal and I
don't that's the part that I don't get. You know, John,
to me is not a person. He's a character. He's
not a person.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
You're about to say he's not a person, you.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Know, he's a character. And it's it's fun. It's fun
to watch this old drunk talk about his life thirty
years ago and insists that he's successful. Watching the Delusion
is fun. It's fun watching Chad Zumack tell you what
a great comedian he is and how everybody loves him
and he's got a girlfriend. But at the end of

(56:19):
the day, nobody really does anybody really care? And the
answer is, I think there's a few people that really
do that take this too far, and you know, I'm
not as worried about the copyright stuff as I am.
Somebody's gonna get hurt eventually.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
It's comment by Jenta b it Q. I don't know
if I just docs myself by saying that whatever that means,
why does evth think that she knows everything and that
she owns and that she owns people? She owns a
shitty wig. But the thing is not sure of the

(56:56):
reputation that Eva has because I, as it mentioned that
I get along with her, but I don't really know
where does she have the reputation Luigi as as someone
who looks down upon the common person.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
I uh, that's a good question. I do think that
she's a little unhinged when it comes to.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
Her taking pride in her quote unquote debates and arguments.
She seems very proud of it, and you know, post
clips of herself, but I don't really see what she's seeing.
And also I tend to think that if you can't
debate someone on the facts of the issues that you're debating,

(57:41):
and you divert to well you're ugly and you have
a bad you know, hairdo or something like that, that
you've effectively lost the argument, and there's no owning going
on whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
And she does a lot of that but takes pride
in it. But who am I to tell her what
she should take pride in. I don't see it.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
I don't agree, but she's proud of it, so whatever.
I feel like there's a lot of that here in
this dabble verse with content. Okay, well, I don't like
your stuff, but you're making money off of it and
you're proud of it.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Great. I'm gonna let you live your life because there's
nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
So well, he used a comment, I'd like to get
a Lemmy Christian's opinion on this, starting with Lemmy, of course,
because it's her birthday, hit the leg button and send
her dick pics and her d ms from Ozone. It's
just to be fair. T S and WTP help to

(58:38):
ruin John's life?

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Did there really the.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
He doesn't need to play by the grind rules they
live by. What do you think of that one, Lemmy?

Speaker 7 (58:50):
What rules?

Speaker 8 (58:51):
I was not aware there were any rules.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Oh shit, that's actually a good point.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
But a debate with Chack.

Speaker 9 (59:01):
We're all here at our own risk, truly, and what
Kay is going to be recorded and talked about all.
It's just the nature of the beast and people need
to realize that. And it's very strange to me. And
I'm not like saying this is in a shitty way,
but like it's strange to me that Ava's safe space
is stuttering John when the dabble verse is literally literally
revolving around shitting on stuttering John. And I don't think

(59:24):
TSN and w ATP ruined John's life. I think John's
drinking ruined John's life.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
What do you think of the.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
Christian Well, I know you don't like when people speak
negatively about drinking, but I do think that, let me's
correct that, yeah, what John has has really you know,
created his own problem, you know. I mean, I can't
say I've seen everything that TSN has doesn't, but I've
seen enough and I've certainly seen WATP and they don't

(59:55):
really cross lines about you know. I mean, Carl has
a house that you know, like two streets over from
John in Florida, and you know it's not like he
shared that information, you know, so they were just pointing
at him and laughing at him. And I think everybody
realized for John ages Ago. He could have just laughed
it off and maybe even gone on one of the
shows and been like, all right, you know, I mean

(01:00:18):
my co host and these broadcasters, Eric Zaane, he became
aware of Carl when his show was parodied on Carl's show.
That's how they made fun of Eric's show, and he
came on and they laughed about it. If John had
done something like that, none of us would be here
talking about any of this. But he does need to
be the Uncle Rico, the Glory Days guy that he
had a tremendous career in the twentieth century. He had

(01:00:41):
an okay career in the first decade of the twenty
first century. But I would say all of us on
screen right now do the same thing John does now.
Are we as successful as him? Some weeks, yes, some
weeks perhaps not. So I don't think that they ruined
his life. I think neither of those shows did it. Now,
when you get in to Reddit and things like that, yeah,

(01:01:02):
some of those people have been a little bit more calculated.
And you know, I've seen John's address, I've seen John's
cell phone number because of places like Reddit. But I
don't think that's the two shows your reference.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Buck when why don't you read this one by one
of your good friends. It's from.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
From stupid podcast. Hey o g mumbling Nick, you enjoy
your life Forms episode?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
So are you my cut?

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
I was on a flight from France with my dad
and uh, we just come from Italy, and I said, hey,
og mumbling Nick, you enjoy your life Forms episode?

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Now talk about the you and your mom fucking the
same guy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Talk about your dad cleaning your dildo.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yeah, but that it is Kiki honest fucking mixysm work.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I'm probably more likely to do it as her mom.

Speaker 10 (01:02:12):
Go ahead, a sound, We're waiting, Okio. It's just not
right what they're doing to you. That's the best mom
I can do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
I want to actually kind of piggyback on what Christian
was saying, even though he finds me utterly boring.

Speaker 7 (01:02:37):
Not this week, you're actually very interested to me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
You know what it must be.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
It must be Kaylee, who's the boring. That's my mistake.
I apologize.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Oh, we all know that's not true. Uh, but it
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
I also don't agree that T s n or w
A TP ruined John's life because of the fact that
where everything started was exactly like Christian said, pointing and laughing.
It was John reveling in his role as the villain

(01:03:10):
and trying to actually capitalize on it and make money
off of it. That I believe quote unquote ruined whatever
it is we want to call it, or whatever was
the downside of it. I think it really falls on John.
You know, this could have been a flash in the pan,
the Dabble verse that fizzled out after a few months

(01:03:32):
of pointing and laughing at John when he, you know,
wasn't doing regular content. But because of the fact that
he really wanted to soak up that energy and fight
back is really where it went bad for him and
at the same time also made a lot of money.
I think someone already made that point, but I think
you have to lump that into the consideration of quote

(01:03:53):
unquote ruining his life. And yeah, I just I just
don't think it comes out as a ruin in the
end for John that you can blame on anyone but John.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
And just as we're getting ready to wrap up, I
think that we really have got to the I think
we're just going to start seeing shows vanishing like if
TSN goes, I think it's going to cause rebels. I
think it's going to start scaring people off. I just
think that, really, this is going to be a horrible time,

(01:04:30):
and this fucking mice has stopped working. So I'm trying to.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
Well hugely. I was glad that Schmiel did the impression again,
but I was working feverishly behind the scenes to bring
top notch production value to you. If you see there's
a video there, I grabbed video from earlier in this show,
and if you want to bring that up on the screen,
if your mouse allows you to, I would bring it up,

(01:04:57):
but I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
I am struggling to you, and I have no idea
why this is happening. I'm such a victim.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
I have that effect on everyone. Next your MIC's will
go out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I don't even I don't even know how I'm
going to be able to close this episode off of
this mice. Wim fucking connect.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
You just pick up your laptop stream well, yeah, well
that's true, twenty four hour cusy stream.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
Yeah, well, I about all my work.

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
Was for nothing. That's all right, Husy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
While you're doing that, can I just jump in here
with a follow up on Luigi. John is a piece
of shit, right, John's always been a piece of shit.
We go back pre dabble verse. Uh, the not paying
the child support, the putting the wife out basically on
the street, all the leaving the kid at home to

(01:05:53):
go drinking with his friends. You know, these things would
never have come out if it weren't for John and
John trying to justify them.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
And I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I really believe what happened was he was able to
do this in the beginning when his kids were younger
and get away with it and keep the kids out
of it. And as the kids got older and as
the wife ex wife got more angry, John started blaming
the dabble verse for all these things. But all this
stuff falls back on John.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. And I think that's also
a perfect time to wrap it up everybody. We why
don't we start with the plugs? Schmill What the plugs
do you have for everyone? Which I will link down below.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Schmiel talk on YouTube and at Buckman Schmuele on Twitter.
And last night we had a fun time with Levy
Mersh Panhandler, Ray Devido and even a little Dave Sarah.
So take a watch at that and we'll be back
up over the weekend and Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
Regularly look forward to him showing off his butthole on
the shmiel Buckman OnlyFans as Keana Thompson.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Which would be a great time.

Speaker 7 (01:07:11):
I make that clip that I'm trying to share that
Hughsey's computer will not let him share.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I cannot get the I'm machi trying to get the
mice to go over the and stream button just like
an act. End the fucking thing. Hey, Lemmy, what plugs
do you have for all the boys and guys? Hi?

Speaker 8 (01:07:29):
Zero Little Emmy zero on Twitter? Uh Little Emmy over
on Twitch and rumble. Come follow me. I do a
morning show.

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
Come see me tomorrow morning, eight thirty fucking I'm up
early on the weekends and.

Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursdays during the week in the morning.

Speaker 9 (01:07:43):
If you want a superior morning show to watch, a
better one than Aaron I do take like music requests
and shit, we can like get to let out you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Yeah, we'll go.

Speaker 7 (01:07:51):
I'm gonna regually jump in over Luigi because I meant
to leave five minutes ago. You can find me on
social media actress and DMZ and my personal podcast, The
Black Cast bla Dtcast. Husy was on the latest episode
talking about Bruce Springsteen and Who Are These Broadcasters? Tuesdays
two pm Eastern eleven a and Pacific on the Who

(01:08:11):
Are These Podcasts YouTube channel, which I believe did not
ruin stuttering John's life.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Just to put that back on the record, and that
clip that Christian just made, he will post out on
his social media because for some reason, I cannot get
the mice to go done to this fucking thing.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
It you know what, It's gonna be so funny when
I comment and share it and everybody gets to see it.
So yeah, it's it's like the same thing as getting
it to show up during the show. Also, I didn't
realize you were a boomer who still used a mouse, Husey.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah, well I use a de asktob as well. Hit
the like button. Hey, and Luigi, it was always great
to record have you on for the first time. What
plugs do you have? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
It was an honor, sir. Yeah, please check out my
YouTube channel. Luigi Greenberg also Skeptical Robot. I actually have
a video premiering right now on my channel. Celebrating our
year and one year anniversary of my show. It is
a clip show of what we consider some of our

(01:09:16):
favorite moments over the past year. Hey, I'm going to
be doing an episode of The edge Files with once Over.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
With Kaylee and Trucker.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Andy going to be talking about a very weird story
about a ventriloquist dummy, and also Hack Write Studios. Tuesdays
and Wednesdays we do unboxing Eric, unboxing Riley Martin, and
unboxing Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I love Bigfoot. Well see visits Lemmy's birthday. I promised
her a gift weeks ago which I'm going to go
do afterwards. A video of me joking off. I'm going
to send it to and I'm not joking.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
It's great. You're gonna enjoy it, oh she is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
I'm gonna I'm gonna do multiple takes and I don't
give a fuck. I want to thank everybody for coming on.
Having to end it early for technical faults. The pole
says that Shuley's gonna win this bottle against Eva. It's
a shame that had happened. Thanks for watching, everybody. I'm
gonna do a big bye bye everyone, Lemmy Bye. Let

(01:10:21):
me see can you say goodbye? Is Schmielho.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I don't even know who I am anymore. I'm freaking
out here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Okay, I'm gonna watch that before I make the video
for Lemmy. Thanks everybody, good night, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Oh shit, and believe me now you take away the
big as part of me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Baby, please don't go. Okay, thank you Buckman, and thank
you Christian, thank you Luigi, thank you let me. I'm
really enjoying recording it the minute. It seems like a
lot of episodes are hopping under the blue stuff like this.
You know, we don't need a name for it to
be an interest in this, and so expect a whole

(01:11:16):
lot more. I remember trying to do twenty episodes for
Christmas before. It may be possible and maybe not, but
I'm gonna. I'm gonna give it a down good try,
and I thank you very much as you can hear.
I'm exhausted and enthusey. Bye bye.
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