ep. 241 "Better Racists" feat. Nick Rekieta, Roachy, NJ Ranger & Dan from Nice Podcast, Stupid!

With all of the crazy legal drama going on behind the scenes (and in public really) within the DabbleVerse, who better to talk to about that Rekieta Law's own Nick Rekieta. Nick comes on to talk about the legalities of people striking each other's YouTube channels, the attitude of Steel Toe Morning Show's Aaron Imholte since getting out of jail and Nick goes in-depth on his own controversial past.

Also joining us is Dan from Nice Podcast Stupid, Roachy from Pint Dabble Pint and, also making his show debut, NJ Ranger.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is hugely Hello everybody, I know you're already thinking,
what is this great background music we're hearing by that
is called Oh Come all, ye Faithful by a band
that is literally called the Christmas Orchestra. Okay, that's the

(00:49):
inventive nim they came up with from the album title
I Get Ready for this Christmas Music Instrumental. They were
able to come up with that band name with that
album title, and it was available and it wasn't taken.
Can you believe it? I'm pretty sure you already don't care.

(01:11):
So what we've got on today is the episode I've well,
I've wanted to interview this guy for a while, but
specifically lately what has happened. On the previous episode we
covered the fact that there had been literal lawsuits and

(01:32):
feud and going on between Shuley and Eva stuttering John,
all this flagging of channels, massive with people's income, all
this stuff. It is really crazy. So what we did
was we get a literal, actual lawyer, Nick Recida On. Nick,

(01:53):
of course, is the host of the very successful law
tube on YouTube. Hang on, did I get that wrong? No,
so ibricate a law on YouTube? Excuse me? I really stupid.
But isn't this music great? Oh? Come all, he's faithful
by the Christmas Orchestra. Nick came on to talk about

(02:15):
that the legalleyes of it all, and then, of course,
without going to too much detailed, Nick and are very
controversial and I've got to say publicized issue with another
previous guest of the show where on i'mhold so I
wanted to hear a little bit of that stuff, but
I think it was pretty good. But we were of

(02:36):
course joined by the returning down from Nice Podcast Stupid.
He's almost my female Lemmy. We were joined by Rochie
who is from England. I'm sorry to put you through this,
but he is actually one of these seven nice ones.
And we were also joined by the debut of a

(02:58):
great guy called njy Rear Injured, who I've been a
fot off. He's a podcast, he's a streamer and it
was good to meet him on this episode. Which speaking
of episode, and I got to do the plugs, if
you go to Huge Entertainment on YouTube will be able
to get to see the entire app video episode that

(03:18):
we did for free. All the I asked for me
is to hit the like button and maybe subscribe with
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kinds and stuff like that. And if you're really in
the mood, become a member. Gift the membership, do something
that unlocks all the free content that you lovely people

(03:42):
love so much. I'm at the huge on Twitter, and
I'm at the huge on Instagram. I'm pretty much. I
think that's about it, and I think we're gonna go
right into this interview a little bit serious of times,
but of course I'm still a child. There's a lot
of immature jokes here in there. We're gonna go to

(04:03):
Shay Roachie Don and Jay Rainger and Nick Rika. Hello,
Juicy stumbled through the door, Classy blazing one whiskey bread
that screamed out.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Loud and he wants the crowd.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The story is flying off his time, songs and battles,
not stand on every set, another sail.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
He never failed with his ways.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Jersey slaves.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Nice raising some joy Pleas.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
What a week I've been having today, very terrible news.
I have got my fake ten girlfriends pregnant, and now
I need to figure it a way to finance ten
fake abortions. So do not be afraid to donate to
my totally real problem that I have not because at

(05:28):
all I'm out of work, broke and don't know how
to support my son. Speaking of which, the beautiful money
bags himself two dollars dom is here today. Don How
you doing today?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh boy, I'm doing a lot better than little Lemmy. Unfortunately,
we had some very intimate love making and I think
I might have given HERMANO or COVID or some other
transmitted infection. But I hope little Lemmy gets better. I
was really looking forward to seeing her tonight. But yeah,
sorry about that, Lamb.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
It sounded like she affected your Mike kim Oler for
a second. Then thank you Hellizard for gifting one what's
my name again? A hugely entertainment membership. Of course, I
hear the English people. They get on my nerves and
they used to owe my people's sleeves. I'll never forgive them.
With that being said, of course, you're like, the welcome

(06:23):
stage is a good Roachie Rouchie. How you doing today?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, don't too bad, man, I can't see a fucking
thing in these sunglasses.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
But yeah, you got the memo Roachie good?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah? It just make you feel comfortable, Dan, You know
I know you don't feel comfortable around life ones. You know.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, if there's one thing I love, it's a guy
in sunglasses with the big hairy beard and be a
small cop. Basically, I like people who look like Stingen
Spielberg directing Jaws. N Jay Ranger making his debut. How
you doing today? I'm good?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Thank you for having me bro.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
All right, and of course the demand of they are
the King of the Castle also making his debut along
with the NJ. It's the great Nick kidded, Nick, how
are you doing today?

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Good brother? How are you you sound? Sound a little exhausted.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I have it.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
That'll do it, that'll do it.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
No, but I don't really. But what I do have
is a like button, and I would think it'll be
good fun if everybody hit the like button. Right now.
I look at this fancy software that this piece of
shd app has. It's great. Everything's great, five million likes.
We're all having the best episode of our career. Just

(07:45):
to go over a quick thing that happened on the
previous episode, and I'm interested in the next spin on this.
We were talking about the fact that Shuley Igor and
Ive Riser is or whatever we're having this pretty intense
back and forth Twitter battles and taken shots at each

(08:09):
other on online and then shows to the point that
Eva then allegedly copyright copyright whatever the pronunciation.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Is, copyright copyright struck.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I knew how to read.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
The guy, didn't go through all that law school to
not be able to pronounce it.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, that's not what I heard. We'll have a good time,
this is a good episode. So she did that. Then
allegedly stuttering John has also flag Shoeli's account on Rumble,
So it comes across as a as a I can't

(08:48):
even think of the words, but they have specifically tried
to shut him down. So Nick legally from that perspective,
is that legal?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
So it gets a little complicated. The question is with
any DMCA takedown whether you're making a good faith assessment
of the copyright to the material. Right, So, when you
make a video, it's yours. You own the copyright to it.
You created, You created it, unless there's a contract involved,
it's your thing. When someone else uses a portion or

(09:24):
all of that video, it really depends on how they
use it and what the purpose is. If they use it,
it just to kind of be what the video is for. So,
like if it's someone reviewing a restaurant chain, they're like
so and so reviews Wendy's and that's like your title,
and you just play it like that's pretty much copyright
infringement right there, Like you're doing it for the purpose

(09:45):
that they're doing it. You're just stealing. But if you
are critiquing the review, if you're critiquing the you know,
the process of making the video and the art that
went into it, then you're creating something new at that point,
and that's that's fair use. In the USA, DMCA doesn't
really care if it's proper or if it's fair use.
What they care is that you tried to make a

(10:07):
good faith assessment before you filed the DMCA claim. If
you overtly do it for a different purpose, like I
want their channel taken down rather than they're taking my thing,
that's technically illegal. Now are you going to get prosecuted
under the law for it? Probably not, but it could
come up in you know, you could get taken to
court depending on the amount of money involved. It's just

(10:30):
usually most people on YouTube don't have enough money it
issue to take a potentially six figure lawsuit to federal court.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Surely though is of course jewish, right, so it's free
for him. Yeah, But that's the whole thing. It's just
that because for me, it's just that if they're actively
trying to shut him down, and then if it was
on the show which she claimed to be drunk and
the cues surely and into a cheesy pizza, oh yeah,

(11:04):
And it's sort of like, so to accuse somebody of
that then actively try to shut down their income, that
to me all just comes across as a as a
targeted shut dentification. Is that a word?

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yes, but only in Ireland.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
And so the way you have to prove someone's intent
beyond what's just kind of blatantly said or a parent
is to show circumstances that would lead you to believe
that they have a different state of mind than what
they're representing. People think you can't do this, but police
and prosecutors do this all the time, right, because you
have to prove someone intended to kill somebody to prove murder,

(11:49):
for example. So to prove that intent, you just go
by other statements that are made the surrounding things. So
you would use something like that like defammatory statements and
a heated back and forth as evidence. But you know,
you're you're talking about getting to the level of proving
to a judge that there's a fifty one percent likelihood
that they had an improper purpose, and judges don't really

(12:11):
want to do that. In copyright court. They're looking for
kind of clearcut claims of what's going on otherwise is
kind of it's really a toss up if it's not
extremely clear cut and you're going to be burning a
bunch of money on it. So it mounts on YouTube
most of the time to be just too retarded slab
fighting or three sometimes if it's a party, but you shay.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Of course the word retard. That reminds me, Tom, what
do you think about all this sort of channel striking stuff,
because you you do review clips and things here and there,
but it seems nigh more than ever that NY is
the time to stop watching other people's stuff because they
can strike your channel. For example, I just get this

(12:57):
one by Timothy aka Slapjaw Love watching you on Grommy
String Striping Night. But of course he would because he
has no job, life, family or friends, or future or
career or real life girlfriend that he pretends just pregnant
because he's broken he needs money to buy cheap alcohol beer.

(13:20):
But go ahead and answer the question. Don Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
No, I actually know quite a bit about this DMCA stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I've actually run into it a lot, and it's definitely
something that's abused and not for the intention that it
was set up. People just weaponize DMCA to fight it
is not even worth it. You know, you almost kind
of just fucking go along with it. It's also used injection.
You're on it, would you like to?

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I will, but I don't want to, like super interrupt
the flow. If you want to see your thing, I
just have a little bit of point back to. I
think the reason dmcas aren't worth fighting it for most
people is because they don't know how. And I can
offer you some tips on how to do that because
I've won every single one of them.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well one thing one and I'm gonna I will answer
that and say why I think it can be weaponized
is for a lot of people that are that want
to remain anonymous or have some level of anonymity, the
DMCA can take away your anonymity, so you have to
be very protective of that. Nick, I see you nodding
your head, so you know what I'm talking about. I'm
sure there's ways that you can get around that, but

(14:25):
once again, it's just legal red tape. That's just more
trouble than it's worth. You just end up just I'm
just gonna fucking take it down. I don't want to
deal with it. I don't want to get into a
legal situation because most of us don't want to get
into a legal situation. I just want to play a
fucking clip and tell a dick joke and then move on.
I don't want to be in a court of laws.
So that's how a lot of these people can get
away with these dmcas. But to Nick's point, you can

(14:46):
fight it, you can win if you want to do it,
go ahead and do it. E gole Pineapple. I think
I just answered your question.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, thanks for the toe pounds.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Real quick, and I'll try and keep this just like
as brief as possible. So find out a DMCA claim
requires you to prove that good faith fair use assessment
and claiming it under usv. Lens or not usv.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Lens.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
But universal versus Lens shows that all you have to
do to claim it is basically claim it like you
have to claim that you made a good faith fair
use assessment. So my recommendation for people this is not
legal advice, this is YouTube professional advice, is you go
through the four steps on DMCA, you explain how you
assess the video and why your use of it is fair,

(15:30):
and you don't have to be right. That's the important part.
Under the DMCA, if you show that good faith fair
use assessment has happened, you're they're required by law to
restore your videos. So it's actually really easy to fight.
And I want to go to one other quick point.
You said you want to just play a clip and
not worry about all the legal stuff. The DMCA is
nothing to do with whether or not you can be

(15:52):
sued under the Copyright Act. If you copyright infringe, you
can be sued, whether you're dmcaight or not, whether you
win your DMCA claim or not, nothing like that. The
DMC is just a handy tool to take down something
that you believe shouldn't be up because you believe it's
supposed to be yours. But once you make a successful counterclaim,

(16:12):
and the successful counterclaim just means you filled out all
the elements of that counterclaim properly, which is again showing
that good faith assessment. Once you do that, they have
to bring it back unless they the other party proves
that they've served you with a lawsuit within seven days.
So you can fight DMCA's and win, and whether you
fight them or not has no bearing on whether or

(16:34):
not they can sue you. So that's, you know, just
a clear up a little misconception there, because I think
a lot of people think, oh, if I do this
DMCA and lose, then they can sue me. No, they
can already sue you. The DMCA is completely separated from
that wonder.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Jay Rien, J're like, I've personally warned you many times,
do not ever play my stuff or I'm coming to
get you. Does this sort of stuff that make you no?

Speaker 7 (17:02):
No, because that ship was going to happen anyway. I
would love to see, say a Chad zumonc if you will,
as it were, I would love to see Chad uh
take try to take me to court. This guy barely
has money to get Tito's.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
What's the what's the FDR quote?

Speaker 7 (17:27):
They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I
welcome their hatreds.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's that's that's fun. Take on that.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Oh and one other thing real quick about the doxing
yourself to fight it, which is a very big concern.
I'm not licensed right now, so I don't do this
for anybody, but when I am licensed, I tend to
offer people for a very very low fee and sometimes
for free. I'll actually take on the representation for the
d m c A, in which I'll write up the

(17:59):
d m c A you know, fair use assessment, and
then my name in information gets put in as the representative.
I'm able to use my law offices maily a you know,
legal address for it, and that way you're able to
keep it. So that's one way that you can do
it is to have a legal representative do it. But
I would strongly recommend that that person's a licensed attorney,

(18:21):
because if you're not a license attorney and you do that,
it could be seen as giving legal advice without a license.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Nay, Can I ask you a question when you were licensed? Yeah,
I think at one point you were representing April and
like traffic court and something happened, and can you just
walk us through what happened there?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Because that was kind of a weird situation.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, I got really really sick right before my arrest.
Leading up to my arrest, there were two ten day
periods that was separated by about a week where I
got two different viruses and was sick for ten days
in a row. I couldn't eat. That's when I lost
another fifteen pounds. Well, I looked really horrible at the

(19:00):
time of the arrest instead of just regularly horrible like normal.
But but that happened then, and so like without getting
into the details, I then spoke with my client about
how they would like it resolved, and we decided to
just pay the fine so that rather than because what
you can do is if you if you miss a

(19:21):
hearing and you have a good reason for it, you
can submit to the court within it's either seven or
ten days your explanation, say hey, can we you know,
reassert this, and they'll grant you that sort of post
facto continuance unless it becomes a huge pattern. But I
was just I was really really sick. I had like
one hundred and four to one hundred and seven degree
temp It was really bad.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Speaking of illness, I've just been sent in a video
message from Lammy to explain the why she's not here today.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
I like getting fucked in my ass and doing cocaine.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
So well, you know, I like watching sci fi films.
But you know, but Rochie, you're part of Accle Pineapple's
empire and they you guys pretty much so well, not solely,
but you watch a lot of Joey C. So like,
if he wanted to, pretty much, he could shut your

(20:14):
whole showdown. If you really wanted to love governor.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, but what's the issue you've got there is you're
making the assumption that Joey C would be able to
figure out how to do that. Yeah, this is who
we're talking about. Joey C. He doesn't know how to
get his microphone to work, and I know that you've
got that to work straight away. Who's he right? You've
never had microphone.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Issues, never in my life. Well, we gotta follow up this.
Tier two with Nick was sin at Super Empty Hero
down for the five. I use the lawyer to counter
a false DMCA on my previous His channel YouTube instantly

(21:03):
deleted my channel for using a name different than my own.
But that is one of the problems that comes in
with YouTubers that they just love to fuck you unless
you've got a shitload of followers and you're like one
of those Logan Paul characters. Have you ever heard of
that guy? They don't give a fuck. Like like the

(21:26):
episode I did the other day with Keanuh got flagged
for nudity. There's nobody got their tit side at all.
I had my deck out under the table, Lammy was on,
so so I don't know what the fucker get a
flag for, But there you go. It's being contested in
the court of you tube. So I don't know. Fuck

(21:49):
that stuff, and fuck this silly Evans stutter and John
and shulely feud. I hit it because I recorded with
the other day and I got along with her pretty well.
But this ship is fucking stupid. And so is the
person in the next topic that I'd love to ask

(22:11):
you about. Now, I know that you can't talk about
certain stuff, Nick, So this is a question about someone today,
not in the past. But since iron Imholt, do you
remember that guy, the actor?

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Yeah, I've heard of him.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, since he got out of Shotshank, I assumed he
was going to be pretty different in the way he
would be on the show. And like I still get
along with it any time I interact with him. But
he's come out and he's still getting involved in the
in the feuds and the fucking and the the Carl

(22:51):
said this, and the and this guy said that. And
I just think like, if I'd have got out of
that stuff, I'd have just wanted to move on on
in life and be like, you know what, that's that's
all part of the past. I'm going to just focus
on something else. And it's not working as much. People
are not. Like you can see his numbers are done.

(23:13):
You can see that his income seems to be done.
And what what do you think? Basically the question is
what do you think about Orange post prison attitude? And
is there a part of you that feels sorry for
him seeing what he's going through post prison?

Speaker 6 (23:33):
No, I don't feel sorry for him at all, because
his problems are self inflicted. As you know, most of
our problems are self inflicted. I know mine are, right, Like,
there's there are reasons that I did things that I did.
Those are reasons for me. They don't excuse what I
what I did, And like the mistakes I made or
the bad choices that I made, the same goes for him.

(23:55):
So now, I don't have any sympathy. I think I
think his big problem is a lack of direction on
what he wants to do. He was coasting through drama.
I think he's really really stressed out, and I think
that that makes it really hard to prep a show. Also,
his show Prepper has been gone for a little while now,
and as much as he likes to present that he

(24:17):
show preps, it wasn't exactly a solo effort, And I think,
you know, he just doesn't really have his finger on
the pulse of what people are interested in. He wants
to ride kind of the wave of either our drama
or his own. And I think people are just tired
of it. Man, It's been it's been fucking nineteen months
since since the arrest happened and his media tour and

(24:38):
all that, So I think people are just kind of
I've seen a lot of people say, like, I'm tired
of Nick Racida's shit, and so, like, my strategy coming
back was I wouldn't really talk about it much on
my show at all outside of like a few updates,
but I would talk about it on other people's show
as long as they were interested and there was something
funny or meaningful to say. I think that's really that's

(25:01):
really wearing out, Like I'm kind of tired of talking
about it, but I still will. It's just it's not
as interesting to me, and nothing's happened in a while now.
Obviously some things could happen in the near future with
the ongoing stuff that I can't talk about, and like,
who knows, maybe that'll be interesting or maybe it'll just
be completely boring. But I think he needs to find

(25:23):
that balance.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
A little super chat here from Tommy Jordan Times for
the five sub fellasque is there different rules for DMCA
with stream snipe when opposed to standards and uploads? Can
you still get struck if you make it transformative? Well,

(25:46):
I can actually kind of answer that one, and that
stream snipe when is kind of a myth and not
I could still technically strike strike someone's channel if they're
using my stuff at all, it just means that YouTube
then that's the contested It's all as stupid ship unless

(26:07):
somebody has insight on that above me, n J.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
What the funk would I know? I'm gonna defer to Roachie. Roachie,
what do you think?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I don't even have a YouTube chunk yeah, h what Sorry,
here's you. I'll let you ask down that question.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Dom what do you think about it? Have a rotie?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Didn't answer, well, I wouldn't get back to steel Toe.
That was where you started going with Nick here, I
don't know where you're off the off the fucking rails
with d M c A. I'm sorry, that's I think
we talked about ad nauseam. About that, I want to say,
And I don't know if Nick can even answer this,
But you know, as as an observer, a neutral observer,

(26:52):
as neutral as I can be, I see steel Toe
and and there's that old saying you are who you
associate with, you yourself with and who you be tells
a lot about yourself. And I see people like steel
Toe befriending people like failed comedian Gino Bisconti and failed
OnlyFans entertainer Keanu his wife, and I hear them continually

(27:15):
going at you know, the spouse of Nick Rickata. Once again,
I don't want to get Nick, and I'm not doing
this to get Nick in trouble. And in fact, I'll
be happy to speak on his behalf if he'd like
to hire me as his lawyer. I feel like these
people are just pieces of shit, and it reflects I
think on Aaron the fact that he would put himself

(27:37):
align himself with these people that actually, because of their loud,
fucking mouths got him put away behind bars because they
can't fucking keep their mouth shut and get Kayla Rakada,
sorry that I'm supposed to name her name out of
their mouths. So, you know, steel Toe, I want to
give you the benefit of doubt, but you align yourself

(27:59):
with these pieces is ship this irredeemable, unentertaining failures of.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
People, and that that just reflects on you.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
That's my comment.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Nick is free to jump in in any way that
he wants or he can abstain, but I think it
goes without saying that these guys are pieces of shit.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
We I can talk about any of this. What I'm
restricted from is talking about anything that is brought up
in the HRO hearing because just to clarify why, the
HRO hearing that we started has technically not finished. Even
though the hearing that day finished, we're still technically ongoing
because it's just continued. So during the pendency of a hearing,

(28:39):
any potential witnesses aren't able to talk to each other
about the facts of the case. So that's why there's
a gag order on talking about anything inside the HRO
that didn't have anything to do with anything outside the
HRO procedure itself. With this, I think the biggest mistake.
I mean, you align with who you align with, your
friends with, who you're friends with, and those are choices.

(29:01):
But as far as business goes, he's not making any
friendships that have any business prospect or opportunity. And I
think that's the biggest mistake he's making from a like
I need to preserve life and and and then deal
with things as time allows. That's that's his big problem.
You got to figure out how to fill your pockets,

(29:22):
to keep your family fed, to keep your house and
all that stuff. And and he's aligning himself with people
who have no followers, no show, and no income and
you know, no no prospect of any of that changing.
So that's that's the big problem there. I mean, as
far as everything else, I think he's finding there was

(29:44):
you know, he found out some longtime personal friend of
his blocked him the other day and he can't figure
out why. And it's like, well, because I think the
people in his life probably want him to stop focusing
on this stuff and go back to just being him
right and as opposed to living in the shadow of
his past mistakes.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Alvin Cleveland has a nice thing. He's out in Thailand.
What they call them bats over there. Their money. Nick,
glad you're healthy and hope your family as well. Hope
you and Melton get the hits R. R. Smiston recover
all expenses, and just to be hilarious, Matt Wilson's here
with one sixty nine. Nice, But yeah, I think that

(30:26):
with the iron it sometimes it comes across that he
doesn't know what to do with himself. And again, I'm
not a I've never been an Antiitoe guy, but sometimes
you just think, like you you've learned nothing. He keeps,
as dwnpointed out, the same people that got him in trouble.

(30:48):
He insists on talking to them privately. And again, I
get no problem personally with Kiki, but you've got to
be fucking insane to tell her Anathon privately, because she will.
We will not always, but she will. It will come
out eventually. What do you think of it? Dad? Wrotchie,

(31:09):
he's smoking Are you smoking a fag.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yes, make what with Keane? Yeah, I wouldn't tell her
anything because, like you said, she will read it out
on stream eventually, regardless what it is or who you are,
because that's all she's got for content. But I did
find it a bit funny that Dan was talking about
Aaron Emhole aligning himself with people that shouldn't be trusted.
But yet Dan wants to hang around with Chad Uma.

(31:35):
It's interesting.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
The changes need to ride. Okay, he just needs to ride.
I can't get him to all the houses he wants
to go to. How dare you?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think the Chad's one of the most misunderstood girls.
I think that his biggest mistake is he gets angry
and reacts with anger instead of just just chill out
and say something and hilarious and withdi like talking about
penises or whatever. People always loving to mention cacs. But

(32:07):
and Jay, what do you think about this iron' stuff
post jail? Do you think he's being a silly goose
part of my language? Or do you think that it's
good that he's just he stole the same toe?

Speaker 7 (32:20):
Oh, I don't think he's the same toe at all. Again,
he found geebis right. Uh, he's he's straightening up and
flying right.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, he's a man of God now. And don't look
at the fact that he has a white literally white
power hour bit.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
On his show.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
That's all tongue in cheek, you guys, don't You guys
don't get like it was the was the Rick and
Morty coffee pasta.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
To be fair, you need a very high IQ to
uh to appreciate Rick and Morty. It's the same thing
with Steel Toe. It's a thinking man's show.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, and uh, that's that's one of the things is
I do think Aerin is different and he gets he
gets wrapped up in all this stuff that he never
was any good at. And that's both the drama part
of it. We saw that well, I kind of saw
it latently because I didn't really know about Aaron and

(33:20):
April show when he got involved initially with Chad Zumac.
But they got I mean, they got just torched by
Zumac and it really did a lot of damage to
the show and the audience. He's not really good at
getting involved in that type of drama. And then he's
he tries to adopt these things because his his own

(33:41):
personality is hard to discern. There's a lot of masks involved,
and one of them that he wears is racist. But
Aaron isn't racist. Aaron doesn't hate Jews, and so he's
doing this like White Power Hour and stuff because of
guys like Sam Show who are genuinely anti Semitic, genuinely
racist people. And there is money in the race, you know,

(34:02):
the hard right or the racist right, however you want
to refer to them. There's tons of money there to
be made. But once they realize that you're not actually racist,
they stop giving you money because there are better racists
out there that they would rather hear from. Who have,
you know, ideas that resonate with him better. Aaron doesn't
have ideas that resonate with anybody. He's the least expertise

(34:23):
on any subject he's ever spoken about. It's actually marvelous
to behold.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, And I just like to say, if you're racist,
like hit the like button. He's a good comment by
a shiper, empty hero. Kannie looks like Geno Bisconti Bonder
from the kitchen. Poor thing needs a hot pocket where
she's going to die. But I know that Nick. Maybe
Kanni is not exactly your your favorite person, But do

(34:49):
you feel that that she is another person that just
cannot do any right on on YouTube? Because I've seen
like she.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
I just think she's dumb, and I think that's the
biggest hang up with her. You know, Like there were
there were times where Keanu and I were you know,
just fine with each other, had very like nice messages
back and forth. She was concerned about April and stuff
like that, so like, and that was when she was
really mad at Aaron. The problem is you can count

(35:27):
on the Bisconti's to make the wrong business and personal
decisions every single time. And that's that's I'm not saying
that they should align with me or be happy with me.
I don't really care. But Keanu sits and talks about
like being on the side of women and being against
revenge porn and all this stuff, and it's like, yet,
you're you're friends with this guy, and we know what
she actually thinks about him, because when when they kind

(35:49):
of turned on him back when the revenge porn thing
first happened, she came out and she's like, he's a
giant fucking dork. I didn't actually want him at the
wedding Gina's like, yeah, me there, it was like they
said the truth right out loud and then they had
to walk it back. And that's because they just cannot
stop themselves from from their own IQ limitations.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
My old thing is to I I kind of understand
the logic though of of of some of the kick
because with Rochi, he he sometimes does the show with
the auzy guy. He's really named is Dame Galloway by
the way, Yeah, you can see his private photos. But

(36:39):
they they do go after Kiki for like an r
a week, and I don't really understand specifically what for.
But then this sort of ship like her folly with
Lady Kay that happens so randomly, so quickly that I
thought it was at work, and then all this stuff

(37:00):
for where was she fallen out with a at the
fucking Chrissy Mayor and then was reading their attacks and
then this Scarlet Hampton stuff, which may be a little
bit blown out of a portion, but I just think
that this whole thing is completely mantle.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Yeah, and I I don't, like I said, I don't
really like Keanu or Gino for obvious reasons. You know,
in another time, UH would have been happily friendly with
them and what was actually for for a while we
didn't talk very much or anything like that. So it's
not like I'm saying we're best friends, but friendly, amicable

(37:41):
conversation or or encounter, and and that's fine. That means said,
I think I think Keiky has some level of good
heart in her. I just think it gets blocked by
what one by Gino screaming at her and uh two
by you know, just making bad decisions on who you

(38:02):
associate with and how you can be friends with people
without like fully adopting their ideology or their perspective. I'm
friends with a bunch of people I disagree with about
a whole bunch of things. And you know, one of
the one of the things I always try to do
is not be friends with someone or not based on
who else they associate with, Like that's up to them,
and I just ask the same thing, like I'm gonna

(38:24):
be friends with who I am. You know, if you
guys have some sort of animis towards each other, I'll
try and keep y'all away, like keep the drama away
from y'all. But like I'm good with this person, I'm
good with you that should be fine. If the other
person is disrespectful to me, then you know, things change.
But I think that's the you know, they should try
doing that rather than forming these gay alliances in a

(38:46):
very niche corner of the Internet where there isn't any
juice to squeeze out of that alliance. It's not like
they're it's not like they're aligning with a Logan Paul
as you mentioned earlier, right, Like, they're not becoming friends
with someone with eleven million followers. They're becoming friends with
people with two hundred followers and no prospect of that
ever changing because they're deaths of charisma or whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, Like, I think there was a FOURD of going
around recently that Gino was doing a live stream for
his his Sports Picks show and he had the maximum
he had eight viewers. And I'm not trying to be
like a like a number snob, because I've done shows
that have had minus it. But you just think that

(39:30):
fucking like, I don't get it. I don't get the
end game, Like is it because they're actually friends or
is it because maybe this need the field support? But
here here's a nice one speaking of racist like Geno
Moon cricket and Jay goat Rochi dresses the quad outside

(39:50):
of pre school.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Fair enough statement. Anyway, nobody cares about Stilto right, including
Sorde boring.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
I care about him. I have a personal reason to
care about, like you know, what happens to him and
all that stuff. But I think popular wise on the streams,
I think it's I think it's decreasing really fast.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, yeah, go on, here's no I was gonna say.
But one of the big things about Gina and Keiky
lately was that they had that lovely lady, uh Scarlett Hampton,
fine actor?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Any of her work, by the way, have you had
did you have a chance to google and see what
Scarlet Hampton's up to these days?

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Sorry?

Speaker 6 (40:36):
Did you ask me?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Let me just say I'm I'm aware.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Okay, I'm not trying to get that.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Wasn't a got you get you, But I didn't want
an interesting body of work.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Yeah, well, phraised, Like I I had no idea who
she was, so you know, like when when this stuff
started up, I googled her and well you can imagine
what happened after that.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, Like, I think she did a thing the other
day and I didn't read any follows up it she
kind of accidentally admitted to being part of some sort
of incesty sheepy and it's like it's like, I don't
know if maybe I wouldn't, I wouldn't put her on
the live stream personally, and maybe that's just me. What

(41:23):
do you think about the scarlet stuff lately?

Speaker 5 (41:25):
And j uh, yeah, no, she is. She's a real delight.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
Uh it gives a very some might even say, uh
statuetory if you will, as it were, the vibe between
the two of them, because whenever she opens her mouth,
it is like it's like kind of like uh flowers
for Algernon situation, but before the whole like make brain

(41:54):
work good things. So Matt Mead is uh patting himself
on the back for picking her up again, more power
to you.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
But yeah, yikes, what about you eat then?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Uh you know, it's it's a whole interesting situation there.
You know, we talked a little bit last time I
was on, but uh, you know, to kind of expand
on what my comment to Nick was before googling Scarlet
Hampton is not her but her body of work, her
genre of the entertainment, not typically what I put into

(42:31):
the search engine when I'm when I'm on you porn
or the whatever your friendly porn site is kind of
the antithesis of what I typically go for. But she
seems like a lovely individual.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
The antith this is to your like it.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Of course, the lawyer is gonna call me out on.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
On the Raw Choice Awards, not the Rugburns, buddy. No,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
It's more ninety degree angle away from what I would
typically go, if that makes sense straight.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
But uh, you know of that variety.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Doesn't like these lady to speak English right there?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Why I don't like big huge black hawks in tiny
little white girls.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
That's with uh, you know you like big huge black cocks.
Though where do you like usually, where do you want
to put it?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
What did you make it with?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
My wife?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And we're going to go to the Queen of Spades night,
then that would be probably what I want to see.
A big black hot Oh.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
See, a dick so big that it could knock you
out if it hits you in the jaw. But the
thing about I don't understand Scarlett's philmography. You would because
that that type of ships so extremely Back in my day,
porn was classy, like our hers back then, we're just
dirty hers and like the film Having Sacks Night, It's like,

(43:51):
let's see how quickly and how far this fish you
can get shoved right up my cunt while I'm shoving
drugs right up my face?

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Right Rouchie, Well, here's I see that you have looked
up Keanue Thompson's nudes online? Then, clearly why the way
you described that video?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
But yeah, I actually have seen a recent photograph of
Kiki's photograph should I say ours? And it's just that
I don't know it probably would have. It's weird that
when you take a photograph in the bath and it
still looks like it needs to be cleaned. That's just

(44:32):
the something for me. I don't know who you down?
What did you think of it?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Of Keanu's masturbation video? Is that what we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Or fire box?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
What let me say about Kianu.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I have googled Keano thompson nude on multiple occasions. If
you were ever looking, if you ever in a situation
where you know, sometimes you have to take a cold shower,
you're like, man, I can't be erecked right now, I
can't be excited. I got to really calm down, Canon Thompson, Dude,
Google will kill your boner so fast it'll make your
fucking head spin.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
She doesn't have She's the most unsexy woman.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
There's very few women where you just say, you know what,
keep your clothes on. That'll get me in the mood
a little bit more than by you taking it off.
Kander Thompson is one of those rare individuals where the
fewer clothes that she's wearing, the less it's sexy she gets.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
And it almost gives off a vibe.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And I don't want to, you know, be too much
of a Sigmund Freud, but something will happened along the
lines that, you know, something's there's a there's a wire
that got screwed up there with the baby talk, with
the Transatlantic accent, with the inability to be sexy, and
then also marrying someone who is a complete ignoramus, who

(45:45):
you know is intellectually her equals. So I guess that
makes sense. But yeah, not good, not good.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
On the on the the nudes.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Speaking in the situation in Manchit Sandako lilink, but I
I didn't invite Akalon, but I have an English quota.
I won't have too you know, doo too many, won't
too many. But the thing about it the Key and Gino,
and this is kind of a rhyme table thing. Do

(46:15):
you think they last? Because he keeps yelling with her
and she was from an abusive relationship in the past,
so at some point that that PTSD is gonna kick
in and she might snap on him. N J, what
do you think.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
I don't think that it's going to last, irregardless as
we say, because Gene Gene is in rough shape. I
met this motherfucker like a month ago, a couple month ago,
from a couple of days ago, Jeane. It kind of
reminded those of you at home who remember Krusty the

(46:54):
Clown's first broadcast in HD when they when they put
on the HD camera and he looks extremely fucked up. Yeah,
not that they're using a shit ton of filters. They
probably are, but I can't clock it, but looks worse
in person. Gino lives off of Jamison, so between that

(47:16):
and who knows what the fuck they're eating, we see
a couple of their cooking streams. Like Gino, I don't
know if he's long for this world, so it might
sort itself out before before it has to come to that.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
What what do you think would.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
What about Gina Wisconsin? I think it's all everybody knows. Right,
COVID broken, He wasn't very smart or funny before COVID.
He's latched onto that. Five years later, we still on
about that. At least we forget again. I know you're
friends with Keane. It's no offense. He chose to marry

(47:56):
that woman and she was getting passed around by everybody
at Compound Media, and he chose to Maria.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, those are those rumors. Is there any truth to
those rumors that the Kiki.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Was media was up in Keiki was stanton in Stancel
hit that.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I can't imagine name name anybody that was on Compound Media.
It's more likely that they saw Kiki's butt. Are close
to the person it.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Stands to actually got off with Keiky's mom that was
I was on camera too, so eats to their own
as they say would, But I do love Billy Idol.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Well, excuse do you mind if I ask NIPCD question
and it's related funny enough relating to Keane. I suppose
I forget that woman's name with Matt.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Mead Marlotte ho Janssen I believe her name is.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
So I assume you've been keeping up with this ship
because you know, yes.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
That probably not as hard as some other people, but
I try to. I try to keep up with it
somewhat or try to is like, it's just kind of
entertaining to me. So it's been what I've been watching lately.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
But yeah, so you're aware of the alleged defamation lawsuit
that might meet claims that he's gonna have or mush.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Yeah, I'm not really sure what his defamation claim is,
Like what statement he's trying to claim that merch made
that's false. If it's that he appears to be abusive,
I mean he does in that live stream. He appears
to be abusive. Now whether or not like Scarlet's okay
with that or if it's traumatic for her or if

(49:41):
she's similarly abusive back, it's a whole different question. But
I mean she's talking about him without consent, you know,
throwing cubes of ice and shit like that on him.
That all sorts of reasons that that falls under the
category of abuse under pretty much every state law that exists.
Uh So, I think Mercia's statements are okay. Now, there

(50:03):
could be something I'm not aware of, or he could
try like a false light, which is similar to defamation,
but it's where you use true statements to paint a
false picture of someone else, and so that you know,
maybe he could try something like that. But I I
just always marvel at stuff like this because these things
cost fucking fortunes if anyone fights and doesn't just give

(50:24):
up right away. And I know Matt Mead is supposed
to be rather well off and everybody's rich and has money. Well,
until you start fighting lawsuits over and over and the
bills start pounding up, you know it. It it adds up, man,
trust me, trust me.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
I know so. And I suppose the group question is
who's hot Zia or scarlet Zia?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
That does's like say what t patter lejiangr shite fat,
the answer being, of course, oh yeah, well you know
what depends what it comes up. But yeah, the the
mom made stuff. I think he's lying when he says
that he's going to sue people because because if that

(51:13):
footage comes out like, I don't think me is like
a violent guy that was that slaps are on no
matter how much she talks or deserves it, but I
think that at the same time, it's like they just
don't threaten, like you don't shove, make sure she's not

(51:33):
streaming wild organ it's ridiculous. And a quick question about gee, Nick,
when you were on that stream with her that time
and she decided to get up and bend over while
we're on a thong, like you must have just thought like, like,
this is the best show ever. It was.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
I mean, Zi is my friend. I've been friends with
her for a long time, so it was it was
a little uncomfortable. I mean, she's a very very beautiful woman,
but it was like, uh, okay, like I guess, I
don't know. I don't know if you guys can tell
where I'm looking, but not directly into her uterus.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Percy Jason Amanta, thanks for the two sand Rouchi the
link kidd and she have hacked three. There you go,
and this one's probably to start the ship. Oh right,
Well maybe she shouldn't read the name Coud's daughter. Thanks
for the two scarlet scarlet and I love my blacks

(52:33):
step daddy, So there you go. It's a nice one
for Coud.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Yeah, well this is awkward, isn't it. Fuck me. I'll
ask Nipri Kudo another question. So, I assume you've seen
the alleged video the Leeds abuse, you know.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Of Yeah, where Scarlett started up the live stream, it
was like don't hurt me and stuff like that. That one.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the exact one. I'm like, And
I'm going to be a bit like Dan. So I
saw it. Dan, I'm going to copy you. You might
not want to answer this, Nick, but I'm going to
have to ask anyway, did you ever see Aaron Emmon
get that abusive towards April and was it worse or
if not better than what you've already seen that clip?

Speaker 6 (53:22):
I never I never saw him put hands on April.
But I don't think that that that Matt Mead put
hands on Scarlet in the video, although wait, there was
a thing where he like shoved her off screen, right,
so that happened. No, I was not witnessed to anything
like that. I heard some pretty loud yelling on the

(53:45):
phone a couple of times, and then of course other
than that, have.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
She feared for her safety with with Aaron?

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Did she fear for her safety?

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (54:00):
And the thing, the thing with the Aaron claims from
April to Ashley in that restraining order. Aaron verified all
that on his live stream. I mean, he flat out
said that, you know, they were engaged in an argument.
The kids were coming upstairs. He didn't want the kids
to hear them yelling, and they would get into some

(54:22):
pretty epic you know, yelling matches back and forth, as
as sometimes people do, and he didn't want the kids
to hear, and so he put his arms around her
and squeezed her until she was out of breath and
quiet like that. That's what he said, in which matches
up with her story pretty damn close. That being said,

(54:44):
you know that that is categorically abusive behavior. It's domestic
battery under again every definition of the law. He admitted
to it. I don't think there's really any argument on
whether that was an instance of domestic violence. Was it
enough to break up their relationship? No, it wasn't, and
and people can make their own determinations about that. And

(55:06):
you know, I think I think stuff like that happens
between couples with frequency. And I mean I've represented people
who were their spouses hired me to defend them from
abusing the spouse for the claims of abusing the spouse,
and they you know, sometimes they did it and other
times they didn't, but the spouse didn't want their husband

(55:27):
or wife. It was both sides to go to jail.
You know, they had other things that they had to
deal with, So you know that stuff gets really really
complicated anytime there's a serious relationship involved.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
And how long was it before you noticed tension between them?
If if you could, I don't know, if you come
out to them, well.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
It depends what you mean by tension. Sorry to lawyer
that one. But I knew there was tension between them
before I guess my invol minting anything. I knew there
was some tension between them that that got pretty heavy
sometimes and then so I guess right away. But I

(56:11):
wasn't aware of the physical allegations at all until much later.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, because I remember watching them. They were doing a
show together, and it reminded me a lot of later
era opiate anthony, where you could you could stand say
every joke about each other have like a deeper hidden meaning,
like they were taking a shot, but they weren't taking

(56:37):
a shot, wink wink, and you and you could just
sends like, yeah, this is not gonna go well at all,
and then so maybe maybe they get back together. Who knows.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
I highly doubt that.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
It's like, yeah, hit the leg button. No, but I
just think of it with iron his his he's still
get that sort of thing of like I'm the boxing guy,
I'm the tough guy. I can do all this stuff.
But it's just like that's why, Like I don't think
he's going to get into that type of drama shit
ever again. Yeah, but then but maybe he could actually

(57:24):
because he hasn't. He's still doing the same chilly personality traits. Like,
but do you in a way feel bad for his kids,
because like if he does fuck up and ends up
back at jail, like his kids have lost the dog,
like his career is over and he'll he'll not be
able to support them at all.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
He has a career.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Barely burning one his words. No, So whenever his kids
come up, I try to take the policy of this
when when I was around, Uh, my kids got along
with his kids. His kids are really sweet kids, and
you know they they have their relationship with their parents.

(58:07):
Uh And and I don't get too much into it.
I don't have anything to really say about them, you know,
I the one. You know, the victims and a lot
of this stuff are the kids because they didn't have
anything to do with any any of this stuff. And
and those kids were always very sweet and kind to everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
That you left cocaine out in like the living room,
it wasn't Isn't that something he contended?

Speaker 6 (58:28):
That's something he contended, Yes.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
And that you you vehemently deny that ISO, right of course. Yeah,
I mean that's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Yeah, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
So Kim is not hoppy with the questions. I'm Mosk
and Nick and Cass. Anyone would like to ask and
Nick a question for this bitch? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (58:48):
No, no, sure, Nick, how would you rate your parenting
skills on a scale of Casey Anthony to Cliff Haukstaball.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I'll go with U.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
I'll go with Anthony.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
It's good. Look. I've been.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
Effectively stay at home dad because I, you know, either
worked from home remotely. I was in law school for
a little while, but that was, you know, it's part
time because that's what my family life kind of demanded.
And then since since I've had an office briefly, but
I was still home most of the time. And then

(59:26):
after I closed my office because of my YouTube channel.
In twenty nineteen, I've been again. I work from home.
I work late. That's because I'm around my kids all
the time. I love them. We have great relationships. I've
been in their lives from focusing on them from before
they were born. Some people made some allegations about me,

(59:47):
you know, neglecting or abusing the kids. Those are all false.
They weren't born out. We were investigated for six months.
They couldn't find anything like that. The problem that they
had was under the statute there were drugs in the
house with children, and which was true, Like there were
drugs in the house with children, right, I admitted to
all that that is what actually happened. But other than that,

(01:00:08):
you know, our kids are never hungry, Our kids are
not neglected, our kids are not abused. And the good
part about all this is my relationship with them was
good before, it's even better now. And you know, they
they kind of wonder about everything they gets said when
it comes up, just because they lived it and they're like,
that never happened.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
So a question for you, how you know?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
So it sounds like you have a great relationship with
your kids, which is number one, the most important thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I assume you know it's been difficult with your wife,
but we don't have to go there. And I'm sure
you guys are working things out and that's complicated.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
We're in a really place right now. I would love
to say that, like I've never stopped loving my wife
or anything like that. And she's a She's a wonderful
woman and has been like kind of the anchor of
my life for a really long time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Aways just impacted your relationship with like your family, your
in laws, your community. Are there in relationships that you're
trying to put back together again or.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
With some of the in laws are some of the
in laws To be very clear, not all of them
were people who made reports that were not true, and
so that puts a strain on things, right, like a
huge one. The people who weren't involved. I still have
okay relationships with all of them as far as my

(01:01:25):
family goes. My family has been very supportive. These these
people all know, like they know what actually was going
on as far as like our parenting and stuff like that.
They didn't really know about the drugs. They since something
was amiss and and you know, for whatever reason, chose

(01:01:45):
to go the route they went rather than rather than
coming and talking to us, And who knows what would
have happened if they talked to us, Right, Like, someone
confronts you on something you're having a problem with, and
maybe you are receptive to the criticism, maybe you're not.
But you know, one thing that would have been nice
to know, I would have been it would have been
nice to know that people were sensing something was wrong

(01:02:08):
because we never got that impression. This all came out
of the blue. If we would have known that people
send something was wrong, maybe things would have changed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Maybe not.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
It's hard to say, like, how do you how do
you predict how you would have acted when you were
actively using drugs?

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Like, I've the biggest regret about this whole situation. Like
what do you look back and just say, man, this
is the worst thing that I learned. The biggest learning
experience you had out of.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
All this, Uh, the biggest learning experience is that when
the government takes your kids away, a whole lot of
other shit just doesn't matter, and you learn to let
go and not be like so reactive and angry at
at little things. It's just like, okay that you know
someone says something there's a criticism of you, and you go,
all right, but like, do you have the power to

(01:02:52):
take away my children? Because if you don't, okay, like
that's that's fine. And so in a lot of ways,
I've kind of mellowed out, you know, how I perceived
other people's you know, commentary or criticism.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Regret the drug use and the polycule and just the
whole thing, or did you I mean, do you look
back and say, like, no, it was fine. I don't
really regret it. I mean, I know you're very libertarian minded.
I tend to be libertarian minded, so you know, it's
kind of you know, if you're not hurting other people,
then it's really nobody's business.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
But do you regret that you got so deep into
all that?

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
The main I tend to not live with regret because
it's like, you can't go back and make a different decision.
If you went back, you'd be in the same place
and you'd probably make the same decision. The evidence is
that you made it before, right, And so you know,
I don't like how some thing's happened. The main thing
that I hate the most is that my behavior led

(01:03:47):
to a negative impact for my children and separated me
from them for a little while, and it was that
couple months was like the longest period of my life
and it was also the lowest and darkest. I mean,
I I can't I can't ever remember being that miserable
and and like self hating and critical. So like, I

(01:04:11):
hate that that happened, but you know, like there's a
lot of good that came out of it. And life
doesn't give you the option to go back and correct
your mistakes, so you just you make your bad decisions,
you make your good decisions, and then life spits out,
you know, an outcome. And so yeah, I don't really
regret anything. I can't say I do it different because

(01:04:32):
I didn't do it different. And would I do it
again is a different question. Not really, No, that's that's
a whole whole new thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Would you say that the rebuilding of your relationship with
your kids, though, would would maybe make you have more
sympathy for for it? On Orange side because he maybe
this has crossed the line, said that's about iron, but
sometimes it's physics. He's really trying to push the image

(01:05:02):
of of oh, we we gn a great time and
my kids we we were talking on the zoom four
days ago, and god, they were cracking up. It was great,
and it makes you think, like Jesus, it's a little.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Like Aaron never posted a picture of his children online
until the day mine were taken away, And that should
tell you everything you need to know about Aaron and
his children and how he, at least for a time,
regarded them. Maybe he has picked up some things and
learned some things as time has gone on. You know,

(01:05:38):
you would hope so. But I think his relationship with
his children before was not what I would want. You know,
he obviously custody issues complicate that. Like I'm not even
just I'm not blaming him for all of that. But
that being said, the fact that you said push the image,
I think that's been the most obvious thing to come.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Out of this.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
And and I hope, you know, I hope for his
relationship with his kids, Like I don't want him to
have a bad relationship with his kids. I don't wish
you anything bad in that that field, and never have.
I just I just hope that he actually did glean
a couple of things, and that quietly, you know, in
his own life and when he's not being performative or whatever,
that that his relationship with them isn't you know, strained

(01:06:22):
and does survive, Like I would hope that, uh you know,
if it, if it continues to be strained and he
continues to be what he was, then I hope, you know,
maybe he steps back. But that's that's up to him
and I'll never know, and I don't care to see.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
I I did not know that he posted his uh
the photo of his kids that did that, that happened.
That's the type of dark side of all this said
that I hit.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Yeah, it was uh it. It was more about getting
to me than about like showing how great his his
kids were. That was something that he and April had
never you know, had always stayed away from because of
the public nature of whatever. Similar to me, I really
try to keep my kids off of, you know, any

(01:07:10):
any posts. I don't have public pictures up with them
and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Nick, Do you think Aaron was in love with you?

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
That's a it's a complicated question. I think certainly in
some ways he was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Wellet of what makes you think that he loved you?

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Well, he told me that a whole bunch. It was
always kind of phrased as like brotherly or whatever. But
he did say it quite a lot. And then uh,
he started acting very weird in all of these things,
and and it started to seem oddly directed at me
when when it shouldn't have been so. But it's just

(01:07:50):
pure speculation.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Uh not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Actually I never feel homerotic when he was involved in
the polyculed was there was Did it feel like there
was some gay aspect to it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Not on your end?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
But did you did you get kind of that vibe
from him?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
The famous story can just rest on its own to
answer your question.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Did you see me eat the cam or does she
just you just heard that there? You know, from from April.

Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
I heard it from her right away.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
I get a bill. I wouldn't even eat a fry
off somebody else's plit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Does the gentleman wrong with that? James are six one seven?
Great to see the blind mic on here skull fellas.
Alvin is back again with forty bot Nick reached out
to knit Brin Tchimmer is awful. I think he's had

(01:08:44):
a positive surgery.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
Yep, Nate. He did a live stream earlier today and
I spoke with him. He and I are He's gonna
come on my show sometime in the very near future,
and we're gonna hang out Nate. There is a there's
a period of time where I was really angry at
some people. I was angry at life right, and I
had lashed out at Nate. But we squashed that a
long time ago. I apologized because it was entirely on

(01:09:09):
on my and Uh, but we're good and and we'll
be doing a stream sometime really soon, like hopefully in
over the Thanksgiving break.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Are there any law tubers that you will, under no
circumstances ever reconcile with.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
Yes, absolutely, name two.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
The training lover in Thailand and Uh, what's a good Kurt?

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
Google minds that and I have have kind of put
things to rest as far as any any beef back
and forth. No, Kurt is not someone I choose to
associate with. I forgive him for what he said about
me and my anger issues. They're like again similar to Nate.
It was actually Nate he was talking to. I was

(01:09:56):
mad at both of them. That's all in the past.
I don't care about that stuff anymore. I did then,
to be very clear, but I don't now. There are
other reasons why I won't associate with Kurt, and it
has everything to do with just how he behaves in general.
And I also think he's Big Sean. No, I'm not
cool with Big Sean and I'm not cool with legal bites.

(01:10:16):
You know, I'm not a big fan of any of
those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
There's a new Lidly on the scene. She's like a
cute little Asian lily and she's got that RFK junior
throat thing. Where's she dog like that? And stuttering John
has been a hit and honor, so hopefully that could
be the next sexy relationship that we're all pension our

(01:10:46):
helmets too right and Jay, you're you're not wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
You're not wrong again, when you get stuttering John in
front of a woman with a pulse, that's a that's
a rough combination. I want to ask Nick talking about
like ending friendships whatever, what's this ass of your relationship
with one Ethan Raphael as he's known resident of a Merita, Mexico.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
You know, Ralph has his demons to fight and he
should fight them. Status of whatever is h you know,
you're try and give someone a bunch of opportunities and
try and try and give grace where you can. Plenty
of people have given grace to me for the things
that I did for and and things that were just

(01:11:34):
I wasn't a good friend, Like I didn't even necessarily
do anything except maybe not stay in contact, not return
messages because I was I was busy being selfish. So
like people have done that for me. Tried to do
that with with Ralph, hoping that he would be pasted
some of his issues. But he's he's kind of ship
to fight and and he'll do it. He's lashing out

(01:11:56):
at me right now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
But you know, what do you do?

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
That's that don't I'm I'm pretty much given my last
good grace though, and I'm I just hope to move
on from from Ralph. Like as gay as that sounds,
I hope to move on from him. But like there's
just nothing, there's nothing left there to preserve and there's
no value in it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Is someone that's completely either of the Who the fuck
is Ethan Ralph?

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
That's the big problem for him?

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Is he somebody that I should know avoid?

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
Am I well well known streamer, the proprietor, owner and
proprietor of the kill stream who now says that he
has I don't know, incriminating I don't know, incriminate is
his wrong word, but salacious audio of Nick that now
he's he is threatening to h to release.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Of course it is he just had this content that
he just rhondomly hod and Captain of file just so
hoppeneds no, and he's had a problem and make angry.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Of a man with a dwindling audience, living down in
living down in Mexico. Uh, screaming at clouds. That's that's
Ethan Ralph right now.

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
It's a shame because you know when when Ralph is
on and he's positive and he's covering things, he has
pretty interesting takes. He's he can be higher in energy
and have really good charisma. He books guests that are
so far out of his league and he always has.
It's a talent of his to network and if he
focused on that stuff, he could put together a really

(01:13:31):
good show like he used to. Instead, he gets wrapped
up in these stupid fights which don't do him any good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
They just routinely he is he is dwindling from it.
So it's it's a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I know who you're talking about, and I remember when
she was on the Christy Mahyer stream and for no reason,
not at all. He randomly decided to take offense. That
did Christy mahyor Manta in this moment, it's like, don't
be a fucking will be. There'll be a chilly goose
if you don't mind me saying that stuff. Guys like,

(01:14:05):
don't don't try to start a fight. But we did
get this little bit super good night reader. No you
thought it was good enough to interrupt me. Let's make
it all about you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Read the fucking super chat.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
You interrupted me to tell me to read the super
Chat while I was reading the super Chat.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
We get fucking p Diddy on us at souper party.
Thanks for the ten bucks. What is your famous Thomas
John Fox song? Well, mine at the minute is my
invisible girlfriend that that's the one I like. And then
the B side me fake baby and what for you done?

(01:14:55):
What's your famous Thomas John Fox?

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Who the fuck is Thomas John Fox?

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
We don't have to say it, We don't have to
say it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
He records Slide from the Shed. It's all his live.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Oh that Thomas John Oh yeah, poop cooler.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Did he really knock up that girl?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I don't think he's I think so here's my theory
about that, and Roach I would love to hear your comment.
I don't think Thomas John Fox is getting any sex
in that in that little shed of his, but I
think he's trying very, very very hard to make someone
jealous and doing a piss poor job of it. I
don't know, Roachie, if you really agree with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
It, I'm just gonna say so. Nobody believes Chad Zumac
has a girlfriend because there's no avidence of it. Yet
everybody believes Grammy has a girlfriend despite there being no
evidence of it. What a stupid bunch of fucking cunts
in this community.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
It's funny. Yeah, who would believe Granny when it's been
said on his own stream and confirmed by Lemmy in
the check at the time that she gave him. Was
it one hundred bucks or fifty bucks to get hooker?
But yeah, now all of a sudden, he's got some
nineteen year old pregnant. Yeah, is that the hooker?

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
But the thing is non hand pregnant at this point,
so I don't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
He yeah, that's complete bullshit, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
But I definitely think that he's with the nineteen year
old at his age, because if it's one thing that
I know about nineteen year old, they love to stay
at home on Friday and Saturday Nightswell are almost forty
year old. Counfiers girl voiced fucking whanker boyfriend's streams. It's

(01:16:38):
the biggest. It's the biggest story since the Aussie guy
tried to deny his namag ding gotaway and Jay. What's
your favorite Thomas John fox On?

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
There are a few.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
I like.

Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
I like Me and My Shack, although I think he
has a cover of My Rifle, My Pony and Me,
which is one of my favorite Dean Martin songs.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
So hard to pick. Here's a nice one from at
gits of above TuS Hey Nick. Would would you recommend
if someone super shott at me that someone was a week,
that I drive forty five minutes or more to their
heights to yel in their neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (01:17:27):
Yeah no, not really. I tend to not recommend walking
around any neighborhood yelling, and especially I had a client
actually who was charged with with disorderly conduct and terroristic
threats for essentially the same thing. In this is in Minnesota,
not in Florida, so obviously the law could be a
little bit different, but essentially he had a problem with

(01:17:49):
some person, so he was outside, you know, on their lawn,
streaming at them to come out, uh, to come out,
and like it would have been kind of funny if
the guy did, because the guy who was screaming at
was like cripplingly obese and had a walker, and my
client was crippled from a severe motorcycle accident and had
a cane, So it would have been like a slow

(01:18:11):
motion like colliding of the lamest titans of all time.
And but you know, the one guy just called the
cops on him. He's like, hey, he's threatening to threatening
to cause me harm and stuff like that. So you know,
I don't I don't recommend it. Even if you can
beat the charges on speech issues and stuff like that,
you don't want to go through getting fucking arrested in
charge with that shit being in the news and in Florida,

(01:18:34):
you definitely don't because you know, maybe you'll get tased
and eating by a gator or something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I thought that was a Chad Zoomark thing because he
did a very weird thing. We went and yelled at
a delivery truck in Marci's Street instead of going to
Mercy's huts. She was quite strange. What does that say?
Rylan pulled six o twenty nine to the Nick is

(01:19:01):
dressed like a hat through today disappointed. Well, I'm making
up for that. I'm gonna a sparkling red rolling Stones
Christmas sweater. So I'm gay and here's a nice positive one.
Nick hr Ro dismissed by Axemis. If you can say,
if you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Can say, the only thing I can say is we
have a deadline in six days on December first, and
who knows what happens after that? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
There you go, well, I think so well. Speaking of Christmas,
we're all gonna go and walk off and watching our
favorite Christmas film, Lisa AND's Limo Specials. Nick, I've got
most of your stuff linked on below, and we just
got our episode title. We're gonna leave this up for
the rest of the plugs. Thank you, Erry Jane, And

(01:19:52):
I think I speak for us all when I say,
would Nick, what plugs do you have that I may
forgot to linked on below before all this click bit
kicken on the.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Button only anal plugs? Is it the only plugs I have?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Clip it Rochie.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Everybody going plug Steve, Who's wife?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Okay? Fucking hell? You know, I just I've discovered today
Stevie LOUI has me either muted or blocked. I cannot
tweak the guy. So there you go. Eh and Jay,
you look like Rick Rubin producing run the MC in
nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
What do you have?

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
What plugs do you have?

Speaker 7 (01:20:40):
I'm at NJ Ranger two one on Everything NJ are
live tomorrow night with the Great Flimsy Greenberg eight Eastern,
five Pacific, and thank you for having me once again again.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
I still don't know what again means. But people, I
see people.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
It's a chattism. It's a chattism.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
You think I give this shit? Chad? I mean, don
what plugs do you have? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Really just one plug.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Schmool Backman coming up in about forty minutes, Smooth Backman,
the geriatric voice of the dabble Verse, eight pm Eastern.
He'll also be live probably Thursday night and sometimes late
night Saturday. So check out schmool Backman on YouTube, schmool
Backman or Buckman schmool I Think on Twitter. Check out
smool Buckman eight o'clock. He should be going live about
thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
There will go and of course acle versus watch his
name Chad. So I just want to thank everybody for
coming on. You're all good eggs. There's no arguing. See,
it's actually possible we could do an episode where it's
not a bunch of dobble verse shit. I didn't get
the sunglasses man move, but we'll do that on the

(01:21:48):
next one. Okay, So we do a big Christmas wave
goodbye to everybody. I hit the like button and the looker. Rochie,
he's hard, He's from England. No, I'm scared of him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
And you believe me. Now you take away the big
as part of me.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Baby, please don't go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Okay, thank you Rochie, thank you Dan, thank you Nick, Rikinna,
and thank you an Jay Ranger. I said all the time,
I love doing these streaming things. It's so much more
fun and I gotta say much quicker than how to
edit the podcast. So I love to get it done

(01:22:31):
and out of the way, so I don't know when
see the podcasts come out way after the streams happened.
So I've always would actually plug the YouTube more than
I would plug the podcast. Itself, because frankly, that that's
how you can get to find my stuff and then
interact and actually be part of the show. You want

(01:22:53):
to be part of an episode where you can by
actually watching a stream and interacting.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Anyway, there's more coming at doctor Steve emailed me while
I was literally on the air. I'm gonna go reply
to that night. Other things in the works, which I
can't say because I don't to embarrass myself by letting
myself down. But anyway, it is Husey bye bye