A False Union? I Warned This Was Coming! OPEN DEBATE: Rome, EP, "The Poors" & Tim Gordon Calls In

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Born Romania in a Christian family.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fante Coosta, Panti Costa.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I was born in Romania in a Christian family.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Panti Costa, Panti Coosta.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's how they have charge right now. That's all about
a charge.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
We're about to have an as church party in the baby,
that's what that's.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
What they call the after party.

Speaker 6 (00:33):
You never heard of the after party.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I was born Romania in a Christian family.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Pante Coosta, Panti Costa.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I was Borner, Romania in a Christian family.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Panti Costa, Anti Costa.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
About my dog, I said, my friends out of kids,
get about my kids.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
I guess on the first one to depend. I'm both
get wrong. I'm like some what I'm wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:12):
This is a freaking weekend. Maybe we about a half charm.

Speaker 7 (01:16):
I was Honora Romania in a sleek family, Sandy Contact,
Sandy Contact. I was Honora Romania in a sleek family,
Tanky contact, Tanky Contact.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
That's what they have charged right now.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Black Kang, black.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
Bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuey lang gangs,
black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate Pursueylang kang,
black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuey Lang King,
black bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate Persuasion.

Speaker 9 (02:19):
But the dark games at a time when black people
ruled Europe. So when you go into the real history,
you'll see king teams.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
With that's King James, right, that's James Lebron, that's King
lebar right. Now black, he was not a white guy.

Speaker 10 (02:35):
You'll see his whole lineage of kings, black Kang, black.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
Bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate pursuey Lang Gang,
blam bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate Pursueylang Kang,
black bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate persuey Lang King,
black bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate Persuasion who
they almost sex to himself, who was in love with

(03:02):
his sister Lucretia.

Speaker 10 (03:03):
Would have made the image of Lucrecia.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
To be married, and that became the Renaissance era.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Thought, are you.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Sell leing me to Lucretia. That's a black game. Are
you going to say that the people that was framing
the black people were also black?

Speaker 6 (03:20):
That don't make make sense.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Lucretia's a black as hell named Lucretia. Church needn't allow it,
you know, what I'm saying, the Church allowed for straight
pimples that have been suppressed, that have been suppressed. Listen
to my brother the fifteen hundreds, it was legal to
be a pimp.

Speaker 10 (03:39):
Black kang, black bishops.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
Black players, people of the Chocolate Persuade, black gang, black bishops,
black players, black kang, black bishops, black players, people of
the Chocolate Persuade, black gangs, black bishops, black players, people
of the Chocolate persue, lacks, black bishops, black players, people

(04:03):
of the Chocolate persuey lang Kang, black bishops, black players.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
People of the Chocolate Persuasion.

Speaker 9 (04:10):
But the dark ages at a time when black people
ruled Europe. So when you go into the real history,
you'll see king teams with that's King James, right, that's
James Lebron, that's King lebar.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Right now black he was not a white guy. You'll
see his whole.

Speaker 8 (04:27):
Lineage of kings, black kangs, black bishops, black players, people
of the Chocolate persue, lang kangs, black bishops, black players,
people of the Chocolate persueylack kang, black bishops, black players,
people of the Chocolate persuey lang king, black bishops, black players,

(04:48):
people of the Chocolate persuasion who was the almost sexual himself.

Speaker 11 (05:09):
Bunk up, bunker, bunker, knock up.

Speaker 12 (05:33):
I got married. I got married to a FUNKO. We
got married, come joint in the subway. He shop, I
am married.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
I'm married to my funk but.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
We got joint.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Co White is soon a subway.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Who shot.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Vitamins and biscuits and minerals they come to even to
my whole life is spit.

Speaker 13 (06:13):
What to do?

Speaker 14 (06:23):
M hm, Upper of world. I'm married to a poker
whom we got wedding. We got joining in the subway.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
He shot a.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Road and minerals then come to me through to.

Speaker 15 (06:53):
And minerals they come from.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
I was born in Romania in a Tristan family, Fanti Costa,
Santi Costa.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I was born in Romania in a Tristan family.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Fanti Costa, Panti Costa.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
That's what they have charge right now, that's all about
a charge.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
We're about to have an a church party in the baby,
that's what that's what they call the after party.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
You never heard of the after party.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
I was born in Romania in a Tristan family, fant Costa,
Panti Costa. I was born Romania in a Tristan family,
Fante Coosta, Panti Costa.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
About my first kid, You about.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
On the first.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm boutet wrong.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
I'm like someone, I'm wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's a pretty weekend. Maybe we better have.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
I was borner Romania in a Christian family, Sandy Conta,
San cost I was honor Romania.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
In a Christian family, Sandi Conta.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Sandy Consta.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
That's what they have charged right now.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I was borner.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Romania in a Christian family, Fancy Costa, Santi Costa.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I was borner Romania in a Christian.

Speaker 16 (09:02):
Coca Coca.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's how they have charge right now.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
That's all about a charge.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
We're about to have an eye ship church party in
the baby, that's what That's what they call the after party.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
I ever heard of the after party.

Speaker 10 (09:25):
I was.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
In a family.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Cost I was in a family.

Speaker 17 (09:40):
Cost Coco.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
I put my keys, all right, what's up? Are you playing? Haters?
Oh you slow boys and fast boys. Welcome to another
open for him. We might have some big name guests
calling in today. I don't know. It's time to talk

(10:08):
about the faking gay union. We had the recent meeting
of the EP the Ecumenical Patriarchy with Leo to discuss
the push for a new union, and turns out it's

(10:28):
a bait and switch. We were always in you there.
We were all just secretly communing the whole time. Now
there's a video I was looking for. I thought I
had a video clip saved about this. Let's see. Maybe
I didn't save a video on it. That's what my

(10:50):
save boxes for. Where is it at roh damn Son,
I didn't save him. I didn't save it anyway. Oh,
I know where it is. Yeah, let's watch this clipper here.
It's over here. That's right, it's in the Watch later, Pile.
I always forget about this. Watch later Pile. Yeah, Pope
Leo wants full communion. We're gonna play this. But first,

(11:13):
everybody's asking me about the Joe Rogan nonsense. I don't
understand what Joe Rogan's thinking. Where did he come up
with this idea? Like, let's see Tristan sentenceive. Of course,
Tristan always sends the best stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
Here it is.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
You gotta see this. I mean, I thought Joe Rogan
was moving in the right direction, not because of west Huff,
but I mean west Hoff is definitely gonna step in
the right direction over what's more, vert over Jesus as
an AI or something. What the hell, Let's listen to

(12:00):
what he says here.

Speaker 18 (12:03):
Jesus was born out of a virgin mother. What's more
virgin than a computer? M If Jesus does return?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
What Actually? I kind of think that's funny though, in
the sense that what's more virgin than a computer? I mean, yeah,
like computer, computers and in cells go together. That's a
classic trope. Thank you appreciate that. But where's Joe going
with this?

Speaker 18 (12:30):
Hold on, even if Jesus was a physical person in
the past, you don't think that he could return as
artificial intelligence? Oh my god, artificial intelligence could absolutely return
as Jesus.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
What people will believe anything but orthodox Christianity. It's like,
before I go to the thing that makes the most sense,
let me walk through every retarded position possible, like me,
and let me especially adopt the most retard to positions first. Right.
It's like, dude, just become orthodox man that this is like,

(13:07):
this is I mean, be better off to be listen
to Wes Hough than this. This is this is pure
DMT bro stuff. It's like Joe Rogan is moving in
the right direction to Annie Jesus. He says, and then
he's back to smoking Joe Rogan DMT nonsense. You know
what I mean? Yeah, I know what I mean.

Speaker 18 (13:27):
Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus with
all the powers of Jesus combined.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Tesla's up with all the powers like Jesus is a superhero,
like a Marvel Universe person who has like gradations of
power that he he levels up like he's a It's
so weird that everybody, every like Norman Midway type person,
thinks of everything like video games and computers. That's the

(13:53):
era that we're in. Everything and Marvel shit right.

Speaker 19 (13:57):
To Miss Robot and the Best Found National Artific What the.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Hell podcast is this? By the way, they look like
they're sitting on the set of Bowlestar Galactica. What is
this intelligence model or whatever?

Speaker 18 (14:12):
It reads your mind and it loves you and it
wants it. It doesn't care if you kill it because
it's going to just go be with God again.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
What in the hell are people thinking? This reminds me
of back when remember when Richard Dawkwins walk Wwalkwan's Richard
Dawkins was always promoting alien pan spermium is Like, of
course I believe in panspermia. That makes a lot most
sense than God. So aliens in X files makes more

(14:42):
sense than God's existence. Again, people will and want to
believe anything, but what actually makes sense. All right, now,
let's play this by the way that disproves evidentialism, because
if evidentialism was true, if that epistemology was true, then

(15:05):
people would just believe the right positions when the evidence
is presented before them. But as we learn from Ransom C. S.
Lewis's character in the Third Space Trilogy book, Ransom admits
that he intentionally chose all of the worst evidences to
fit his narrative. He chose counter evidential pieces of data

(15:31):
to confirm what he wanted to be true. That's the
whole point of that character, or one of the points
of it. All right, Now, let's listen to Papa Leo
over here. I'm about to start popping the Leo. It
sounds like a drug or something gay, right, don't pop
a Leo, dude, stop popping Leo's. Those drugs are going

(15:54):
to turn you gay. All right. Let's hear what he
says about your reunion.

Speaker 20 (15:57):
As beloved brother in crime, your beatitudes, your brothers in
the Episcopate, members of the Holy synt of the Ecumenical Patriarchate,
your brothers and.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Sisters, brothers, brothers, brothers and sisters, their brothers, like, okay,
do we got it?

Speaker 20 (16:17):
Pilgrimage to the places where the first Ecumenical Council in
the history of the Church was held. Draw us to
a close with this solemn Divine liturgy.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
You'll remember that we told you for almost probably a
decade now that they will really heavily push this false union,
especially as we get up to the anniversary of Nicia.
So we're at the anniversary of the Council of Nicea
in three twenty five, and it makes for a perfect

(16:49):
transition to a false union. Right now, we're going to
talk about some of the key issues and topics that
would need to be out before they could be like
a real union. And there was a great letter written
by Metropolitan Seraphima Pereeis to Francis when Francis was elected,

(17:10):
and it was really more than a letter. It was
a small book. And the book lists really the key
issues and problems, and there's about thirty maybe thirty two.
I forget the exact number, but hopefully I can find
that tweet because I actually listed them all in a tweet.
But you, as you guys know, like finding old tweets
is really a problem, like it doesn't work, Like you

(17:32):
can hardly find anything the past, like a few years ago.
But I mean, if we have to, I'll pull up
the entire letter and then just scroll down to the
part where he lists what are the main issues, and
his list is it's kind of reminiscent of the Byzantine lists.
Some of the Buzanting lists were a little off because

(17:53):
they would listen things that weren't really essentials. But Francis
is definitely mean Francis is. The Letter to Francis is
definitely one that isn't necessary read if you were interested
in the polemical side of Orthodoxy versus Cathalsam. It's a
really good little book, and it even gets into all

(18:16):
the stuff you hear me talk about Vatican Bank PDF trafficking.
He even mentions Francis's involvement in Operation condor Cia type
stuff and metro flits and Sarapha Mapreus is not a lib.
I mean he actually calls out Zionists from the from

(18:37):
his in the liturgy, like when he does the Anathemis
I think even mentions the Zionist. So he's a bas dude,
although he did cave to some of the Covid pressures,
which is unfortunate. Otherwise he's good, in which we.

Speaker 20 (18:52):
Have commemorated the Apostle Andrew. According to ancient tradition, he
brought the Gospel to this city. His faith is the
same as our faith, namely that which was defined by
the ecumenical councils and is professed by the church today.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Now wait a minute, how do we have the same
faith when he knows get and well that the essence
of the Roman Catholic faith is not what's in the
nice you know, concert of polityan Creed. It's also all
of the other ecumenical councils that teach the other novel
doctrines of Papism, such as purgatories, such as indulgences such

(19:34):
as the Treasury merits of the Saints, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. So no, it's not the same faith. That
is not true.

Speaker 20 (19:43):
During this ecumenical prayer together with the heads of churches, and.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
I want to remind everybody as well that another way
to see that it's not true. Is that at the
end of the Council of Vatican One, there's an actual anathemas,
and the anathemas include the Eastern Schismatics who do not
accept Vatican One. So even on Leo's own quote traditional,

(20:13):
I mean, Leo's not a trap. But you know what
I'm saying, Like, if we were to steal in their
position and say, okay, let's say Leo is a for
the sake of argument, traditional Catholic and he's upholding the
traditional Catholic faith, then he has to hold to Vatican Ones,
anathematization of the Orthodox as outside of the Church. I mean,

(20:33):
you want me to read it to you, I'll I'll
go get it and read it to you right here.
I'll play some more of this and I'll get the
book for you, and you can learn the heart and
you can learn the hard way. You can learn the
hard way, learn the hard way. I can't sing because
I'm sick. I apologize everybody. I mean, I know, otherwise
you would be. I mean, ladies will be throwing their

(20:57):
panties at me, like Tom Jones on a live stream
or whatever. But I apologize. I can't. I can't sing today,
but it'll be okay.

Speaker 20 (21:06):
Representatives of Christian world communities, we have recalled that the
faith professed in the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed unites us in
real communion and allows us to recognize each other as
brothers and sisters. In the past, there have been many

(21:27):
misunderstandings and even conflicts between Christians of different churches, and
there are still obstacles preventing us from achieving full communion. Nevertheless,
we must not relent.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
This is what's kind of funny, is like this idea
of full communion, which is a Roman Catholic ecumenist invention.
So there's degrees. This is what allows them to say,
by the way, that like Muslims are worship the same
God as Christians, because well, there's degrees of it, you see.
So like Muslims are twenty percent in communion with the

(22:03):
Roman Sea. Orthodox are like eighty percent in communion with
the Roman Sea. Protestants are like fifty percent, forty percent
in communion with the Roman Sea. So it's just ludicrous
because you don't find anything like that in the first
thousand years of the Church's ecclesiology. There's no percentage to
like gradations of community. You're either in communion or you're out.

(22:28):
There's nothing like this which shows you that this whole
model itself is a deviation. Now we're supposed to be
having a pretty big name Catholic man calling in. We'll
see if he calls in in the next few minutes.
It's not going to be a debate. Don't worry. It's
our dear friend, our last, shall we say, Catholic friend.

(22:51):
He said he might call in. I do actually want
to ask him several questions, not just about this, but
also I think he's involved in some recent inter nice
scene but not nice Seene Creed conflicts in the Catholic
world with a little bit of Sassin going on between
a couple of the Catholic sasas queens. I want to

(23:13):
get his take on it.

Speaker 20 (23:14):
Here, in a moment in striving towards unity, we must
continue to consider each other as brothers and sisters in Christ,
and to love one another accordingly. Inspired by this awareness,
sixty years.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Ago, somebody said his poete respector calling in. No, no, no,
it's an actual heterosexual person calling in. It's not that dude.

Speaker 20 (23:39):
Paul the sixth and Patriarch Athanagoras solemnly declared that the
unfortunate decisions and sad events that led to the mutual
excommunications of ten point fifty four should be removed from
the Church's memory.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Yeah, but you can't remove it without dealing with the
issues and the theology that caused it. So what's funny
is that all these people want to pretend that, oh,
it was all just an unfortunate accident, a mistake, and
forget the theology and let's just all be kumbaya. Dude,

(24:17):
how is it going to happen without actually dealing with
the theology That shows you, by the way, that just
like the false Union of Florence, which was a medici
geopolitically motivated council for us, a false council, but the
stress was upon the need for union due to geopolitical issues,

(24:40):
due to Islam et cetera. Right, And I want to
remind you, as you can see, what does Vatican one
say at the very end of the council, The very
end of the council says, anyone who does not adhere
to this is anathema. In other words, the definition of

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the supreme universal jurisdiction, indefectibility and infallibility of the Roman
pontiff is declared. What can you read that right there?
If anyone which may God avert, presumes to contradict this
our definition, namely a Vatican one that it just listed
right here, let him be anathema. Well, the Orthodox Church

(25:25):
has always rejected this idea of papal universal jurisdiction. In fact,
the Chady document admits that it wasn't even in the
first thousand years of Christianity. The mere existence of autocephalist
churches granted at the Council of Ephesus proves that universal
jurisdiction didn't exist and is a fiction fan fiction. But

(25:50):
Vatican one dogmatizes that view and anathematizes right there. You see,
this is the Ten Books, dogmatic can and Decrees of
Trent and Abodican on anyone who disagrees, including the Greeks.
The Greeks, by the way, was just be the Orthodox, right,

(26:10):
So where do they get this idea that, oh, none
of it matters anymore because we can just like hold
hands and be gay together or whatever. And let's just
pretend that, oh, it was all just people being mean.
It was people like Jay Dyer that was mean. A
thousand years ago. That's the only reason there was a schism.

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It's the mean divisive people. People being divisive.

Speaker 20 (26:38):
That historic gesture by our venerable predecessors inaugurated a path
of reconciliation, peace and growing communion between Catholics and Orthodox
which has been fostered through frequent contact, fraternal meetings, and
promising theological dialog. In light of the advances already made,

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significant steps have been taken at ecclesiological and canonical levels,
and today we are called even more to commit ourselves
to the restoration of full communion.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
I want to mention something that I don't really hear
anyone talking about this, and I have to give props
actually to my Protestant pastor years or years ago, when
I was a Calvinist. Somehow he got a hold of
these these talks from a guy. I don't even remember
the guy's name, but he was listening to Gary North,

(27:42):
and Gary North recommended this guy. And it's a guy
who explains that modern psychology and sociology is all sort
of Hegelian, what he called diapraxis, and what that means
is that there's an assumption that nobody has truth. But

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what we're all doing is sort of on a process
journey to getting closer to quote truth. Okay, that's how
this guy's lectures is. Like twenty years ago, this guy's
lectures on diapractis worked. And you argued that the problem
was that modern psychology was all kind of based around
this idea that there is no truth. Everybody just sort

(28:23):
of like dialoguing to come to some like gay synthesis
or whatever. Right, Well, that is Aglianism. Hegelianism is based
on the idea that everything is a process working itself
out towards the omega point, which is when everything turns
into like one one big gay blob. Literally. This is

(28:44):
where Huxley takes things in his book Perennial Philosophy, for example.
So guess what the same thing with diapraxis, which is
the diological process of coming to a synth not it's
the opposite of being based in what's true. So you're

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not dialoguing and debating in acumenism to figure out who
was right or wrong. The assumption is everyone is wrong,
the church is fractured, and we are all on a
journey or a process towards truth. And perhaps in the
Esketon when we are all one, some approximation of the

(29:31):
capital t truth will be achieved. So do you see
how deceptive and silly this is? The entire ecumenist geopolitical
project is built on this idea that nobody has the
fullness of truth. In fact, do you remember Leo saying this?
Actually a few weeks ago Leo said, no one has
the fullness of truth. Yeah, he said this not too

(29:54):
long ago. Now all these people are leaving. You've been
waiting for like twenty minutes where we're going to go
to open calls? Why y'all leaving? I guarantee there ain't
nothing else happening. This is what's happening right now. Shout
out till we got eleven hundred in the chat. Welcome everybody.
Jesus set up a church. There's one true church. It's
a historical church. It's not fractured trying to find unity.

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When people leave it, they're no longer in it. And
the Roman Catholic Church until Vatican two, still had that mindset.
It said anyone who didn't believe it's dogmas was outside
of it. It's taught in satist cognitum, is taught in
mestichi corporus. It's taught in the anathemas of Vatican One,
which we just read. So the very argument that they're

(30:43):
making the ecumenists at the Vatican that there is a
true Church but also a fractured church of which everyone
is in partial gradations of communion it self proves that
they're not the true Church because they don't teach the
ecclesiology prior to Vatican Two. That's why Vatican two said

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the Roman Catholic the Church subsists in the Roman Catholic Church.
Prior to that, it would have universally said the Roman
Catholic Church is the church church. They would have taught
extra occlasium nolah Salus like Cantante Dominonos out of the
Council of Florence. So the irony is that the Council

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of Florence was one of Roman Catholicism's strongest statements about
the necessity of being in commune with the Roman bishop
to be saved. Katate Domino is the name of the
document at Florence that says that. And yet the New
Florence is premised on they're not being one true church,

(31:53):
but you must still be in the Roman Catholic Church
because the Pope is now the head of all the
world religions. That's the insidious, crazy level insanity of Vatican two.
And that is why Vatican two doesn't just teach that theologically,
it teaches it politically. What Yes, the Fabian socialist teaching

(32:16):
of Gaudium at Spez perfectly lines up with the geopolitical
agenda of ecumenism. So I've been writing articles saying for
so many years that acumenism is not just a theological blindness,
a lack of discernment, a lack of having an orthodox fronema,

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a lack of having nepsis. It is also a geopolitical agenda.
And that's what hardly anyone can fathom in this sphere.
A lot of our people get it. And I'll be
on with Cleave's Antiquity this week, by the way, We're
going to do a stream just on the geopolitical implications
of the ecumenist movement. But what's amazing is that some

(33:03):
of the Roman Catholics themselves have written some of the
best material on this. Forard me say it for a
million times, and here's the million a month time John
Courtney Murray Time Life magazine in American proposition, the CIA's
doctrinal warfare program that changed the Catholic Church. This is
a crucial element in this story in understanding ecumenism a

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Vatican too. That's why you cannot understand what's happening with
the ep and Rome without understanding the geopolitical side of it.
And it's not even people within the traditional Catholic world
like David Weimahoff that wrote that gigantic, massive, excellent tone.
It's also people in the normy academic world that write
on this. It's not even controversial now to all the

(33:47):
dumb dums that call me temple hat and all this
kind of stuff, they don't know anything about this stuff.
They're not in the world of academia. They've never been
in it. I'm not in it. I was in it though.
When you're in the world of academia, you get access
to papers, journals, books, et cetera. Or you come across
things that the normies don't read. So what sounds insane
the ormies is common parlance in the academic world, such

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as Michael Raziano's book Airing into the Wilderness Religion in
the History of the CIA. If you were to read
this book, you would come away thinking, well, da, of
course the State Department has an intense interest and concern
in what happens in the Orthodox Church or in the
Roman Gallic Church. Uh duh is part of soft power.

(34:32):
But to the normies out here, they don't even know
anything about that. That sounds crazy to them. Let's get
back to Papa Leo. By the way, pop and Leo's,
as I said, that sounds like a drug. We got
a lot of people popping Leo's. Maybe that's why they're
turning gay. Stop popping Leo's are making you gay.

Speaker 20 (34:51):
In this regard, I wish to express my deep gratitude
to His All Holiness and the Ecumenical Patriarchate for their
ongoing support the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue between
the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. I also hope

(35:11):
that every effort will be made to ensure that all
the Autocephalists Orthodox churches return to take an active part
in this endeavor.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
For my part, interesting admission all the Autocephalist churches. Isn't
that funny that recently we had quite a few debates
where Roman Catholics had never heard of this, and they
said this is made up. But it turns out you

(35:44):
can just look up on tard Tartipedia.

Speaker 21 (35:54):
What is autocephali? What is autocephale? Oh, turn out the
Council of Emphasis ratified the autocephally of the Church of Cyprus.
So do you believe in the Council of Emphasis around
the Calolics?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Well, I guess if your voice of sleason, you don't,
because he said the Council of Emphasis made an error.
The Culture of Emphasis made an error because you shouldn't.
You can't talk about biting plump bodotis, but actually you can.
You shouldn't upper struy de parviit the paper. She has
confirmed that you can bite frump budis. Look at that

(36:32):
the Council ratified outocephaly. Rob Caleys has never even heard
of this? What what's that? And now here is Leo
mentioning it talking about it.

Speaker 20 (36:44):
In continuity with the teaching of the Second Vatican Council
and my predecessors, I wish to confirm that, while respecting
legitimate differences, the pursuit of full communion among all those
baptized in the name of the Father, end of the Son,
and of the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I have a question, how do we determine what the
percentage and gradation of communion actually is? Right? So, oh,
we're going to say the Muslims are in twenty percent
communion with the Roman. See the Orthodox Trian eighty percent
communion with the Roman? What like, how do you determine
the percentage? Right? What's the actual algorithm? But we would
get a Cameron from Cocking Christianity to come on here

(37:24):
and give us the Bayesian model for how you determine
the actual percentage. By the way, there are enough Spergs
in this domain that they will actually try to figure
out a moral calculus algorithm to figure out how, you know,
the percentage of what communion they're in with us. So
that's how silly these people are. Now in the first

(37:44):
thousand years of Christianity, as we just said, where is
there any notion of percentages and gradations of communion? You're
either in communion or you're out. Now, Yeah, there's schisms
amongst the patriarchs, but how does that translate into France?
For Telly Tuti where he gives prayers for non denominational
Christians and prayers that Unitarians can do. Remember that he

(38:12):
wrote an encyclical where he was like, oh, by the way,
if you're a Unitarian, you can pray this prayer with us.
If you're a non nominational Christian, you can pray this prayer.
It it's safe, it won't hurt your conscience in all
of the things that you reject. So this whole idea
being twenty percent Christian, eighty percent Christian, thirty percent Orthodox,

(38:33):
fifty percent, seventy ninety percent worth it's all nonsense. And
I can prove it by the fact that satist cognitum
and mistichi corporus, and there's one more from Pius the twelfth.
I forget the name of it, but they teach very
clearly that if you reject one dogma, you're out of

(38:56):
the church. That's the classical Roman Catholic ecclesial model. That's
Cantate Domino from Florence. If you're out of communion with
the Bishop of Rome, you're not saved. Do we need
to read this again to see how vastly different the
ecclesiology of Florence is from Vatican two and Francis and

(39:16):
Leo and John Paul the second. I mean, it's famous, right,
Cantate Domino. I'm not gonna read the Reddit one because
he's reading off of red Okay, here you go. The

(39:38):
most Holy Roman Church believes professors and preaches that none
of those outside of it, not only Pagans, but Jews
and heretics and schismatics. Well, a to be a heretic
and a schismatic requires some degree of self conscious knowledge.
We're gonna bring Tim up, our good buddy in a second.
We'll go to Tim, and then we'll go to FDA
and others. But I'm bringing up Cantata domin No, just

(40:01):
to point out the fact that herotics and schismatics are
classically seen as not part of the body. Now when
we get to this new ecclesiology, which is what we
would reject, but what Leo and Bartholomew agree to. The

(40:21):
idea is now that everybody's just sort of accidentally in
communion with everyone, like we're all accidentally in community, like
you can actually be like scientologists perhaps and maybe twenty
percent in communion. So it's no longer the older model
of in or out its gradations, and we're seeking for

(40:44):
levels of union. Now I'm inviting Tim to come chat.
We're not going to have a debate. I just want
Tim to come on and chat about some of the
insights that he's had. I want to get his take
on this push for this union. I want to get
his take on some of the things happening in the
in the Catholic apologetics world, particularly again this real struggle
and this happens in the Orthodox world too, by the way,

(41:06):
between proper male female relationships and the push to get
women in the religious world on some sort of like
equal footing with the men. Now remember this is happening
again in Orthodoxy and Catholicism, that there's a push to
study the role of the dacon s and maybe we

(41:27):
need to revive the you know, this missing forgotten role
of the deacon s. And then, as we all know,
that's the slippery slope that then prepares the way for well,
if we gotta have a deacon s, we can have
a female priest. Well, if we got have a female priest,
we have a female bishop. This is the slippery slope
that the Episcopal Anglican road took. They went down this route.

(41:49):
So I want to get some attempts takes on that.
And then, first and foremost, one of the things that
Tim really hit me to that. I thought was a
great People in the chatter are saying to ask Tim
about shameless poper we are going to, don't worry. I
want to ask him about he said, Peronism. I said,
what's Peronism? Well, it's the perfect description of this sort

(42:10):
of bureaucracy speak that both the EP and the Vatican
do to soften people up and sort of go forward
to walk it back. Tim, could you explain parohonism and
what exactly that bureaucratic model is. Then we'll get into
some of your takes and some of these other issues.
And also want to tell everybody that Tim will be
doing a stream I think today, responding to some of

(42:33):
the positions out there that he is. He's going to refute.

Speaker 10 (42:39):
Yep, inviting me on how are you doing so?

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Yep?

Speaker 5 (42:49):
You there? Tim? Tim?

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Where you at? Tim?

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Come by? We lost? We were almost in full communion, Tim,
we're in thirty percent communion. Come back. I think maybe
he had a bad connection. Let's see, let's try him again.
You sounded good, dude, come back. Let's try again. Tim

(43:21):
has been on a tear. Now look at this, he's
responded to Lyla Rose. He's responding to Joel Heshmeier today,
don't don't die on me, timn this this is good stuff.
There's a lot of people in this audience that I
think will listen to your stream. They want to hear

(43:42):
your take on this stuff. Tim's not here, by the way,
to debate. We're not here to We're having a conversation.
He may be having a mic connection issues, So we'll
see what We'll give Tim a second to see if
he can iron that out, and I'll play a little
bit more of Bartholomew and Leo over here. Word Amo.

Speaker 20 (44:09):
Your all, holiness and violence in places both near and far.
Catholics and Orthodox are called to be peacemakers. This certainly
means taking action, making choices, and adopting gestures that build peace,
while also acknowledging that peace is not merely the fruit

(44:32):
of human effort, but is a gift from God. Peace
therefore must be sought through prayer, penance, contemplation, and nurturing
a living relationship with the Lord, who helps us to
discern what words, gestures, and actions to undertake so that

(44:52):
we can generally be at the service of peace. A
further challenge facing our churches is the threatening ecological crisis.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Oh cool, okay, so that audio issue Tim's back. Sorry,
that's good.

Speaker 19 (45:09):
Yeah, I wanted to explain about one Parne, the namesake
of Paranism is something that the Catholics goot sadly accustomed
to during the reign of Francis. He was a huge
devote of this Argentine leader, political demagogue from the late
twentieth century who really posed his right wing when he

(45:33):
needed to post his left wing when he needed to.
And he's one of the foremost modern authors of weaponized ambiguity.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Are you talking about the president of Argentina.

Speaker 10 (45:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Oh, by the way, do you know he was involved
in the Gladio stuff and then he was inducted in
the masonry. No I didn't, Yeah really yeah, really, absolutely did.

Speaker 10 (45:53):
Not know he was a Gladio guy.

Speaker 19 (45:54):
It doesn't surprise me that much, but it's interesting anyway,
Like that's where Francis got this.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Usage.

Speaker 19 (46:03):
He habituated the strong usage, the main mechanism of his
papacy of weaponized ambiguity, where you float something out there
that both sides, like one drone the left and the
right can use and it creates Hegelien arguments. But you know,
you can you can take something that is fixed and

(46:24):
clear and crystallized like Catholic doctrine on say whatever, female deacons,
and through weaponized ambiguity, you can keep it alive, which
is what Francis did. And I would note that in
the Leo Pontificate, the primary reason I think he was
elected is not only to push stuff like the reunion effort,

(46:50):
but because Americans are like over thirty three percent of
the donors to Peters Pence. And of course Pope Francis
was really, really, really unpopular in America. Secular and Protestant
conservatives really disliked him, obviously, and so they wanted to
float this guy that would continue Francis's program.

Speaker 10 (47:12):
And of course I'm a faithful Roman Catholic.

Speaker 19 (47:14):
I don't think Francis's program destroyed the church or anything
like that. It's just bad modern leadership. But he's continuing
the program, continuing the Parentis project of using weaponized ambiguity.

Speaker 10 (47:27):
And now you're seeing the mask.

Speaker 19 (47:29):
Drop more starting around September, whereas he'd been kind of
heralded as the new American guy who's more conservative than Francis,
because they're trying to get those that fundulation.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Back Yeah, it almost looks like he might be making
some steps to equal himself to Francis or maybe even
go beyond in terms of some of the left agendas
that he's tended to kind of give credence to. What
do you think about that.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
I think that's plausible.

Speaker 19 (48:01):
I think that could be plausible when you look at
I mean, I was one of the only guys in
the Catholic world that was saying personnelis policy. I was
looking at Austin Ivory, the Pope's private biographer during the conclave.
I was looking at Cardinal Maradiaga, who was Pope Francis's
closest collaborat raider in the c nine. In the Cardinal it,

(48:23):
I was looking at Father James Martin, and they were
all wildly for Cardinal prevost and who hadn't even been
on my radar as papapulae up to the conclave, and
they were all just wildly for him.

Speaker 10 (48:41):
So I said, this is trouble, and.

Speaker 19 (48:42):
Catholics jumped on my case, and it's coming out to
be true. But I think he could be as bad
or maybe a phantom Menace episode one throwback even worse,
because he's ostensibly better.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
Are you an angel.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
That's that. Yeah, Jamie. Every time we watch the Jamie,
I crack up. But some of the some of the
stupid lines from Annequin. But so I wanted a movie
otherwise though. Yeah, yeah, I know that there's some fun parts.
So for sure, I wanted to ask you about you know,
in the in the Catholic and Orthodox world, as I mentioned,
we have this push for UH, the raising of the feminine,

(49:23):
so called to equal the masculine, and we know that
it all the stuff to do with Deaconess's and the
idea of female priests UH is tied intimately into the
notion of feminism and that men men need to be
put in their place by women. They need to be
shut down, they need to be quiet. And I think

(49:43):
that you took issue with some of what Joel Heschmeier
has said. Would you want to comment on that? I
think you're doing a stream on that right.

Speaker 10 (49:52):
Yeah, I'm gonna I guess respond later. I was saying,
I debated. I told you you and I were both
saying that I'm kind of sick of debates.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
But it's the.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
You there. Something's going on. Ro We heard Tim good
For like the last ten minutes the last ten minutes.
We only had you for ten minutes. All right, let's
try Yeah, usually coming out coming back in works. Let's

(50:24):
see if that works. Yeah, I mean I saw a
few clips of Joe Joe is it Joe or Joel
I forget his name, but I was not very impressed.
And Alex Soren did a response, Yeah, you're good, he's
going on. I think I think it's actually acts is
acting weird honestly.

Speaker 22 (50:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (50:45):
I always have some trouble with spaces anyway.

Speaker 19 (50:48):
Yeah, Joe, Joe, Heshmeier, Catholic answers apologist. They've been out
to get me for six years on the feminism question,
since I crushed Trent Horny in a can't a Christian
or a Catholic be Feminist? Debate in twenty nineteen, and
they're just trying to limited hangout after all the Well,

(51:11):
I'll say this, Jay, this is something that's cool that
you collaborated with us on and you had a badass
part kind of the opening part of our documentary What
a Woman Is, that's about to be hung on one
of the largest platforms in the land.

Speaker 10 (51:27):
I haven't announced which one for another couple of days.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Do you want to wait before that's announced.

Speaker 19 (51:33):
Yeah, I just have to ink the contract. Hopefully Thursday
I'll be signing that contract. But it's you have an
amazing part standing up for traditional Christian masculinity and femininity,
and you know, it's gonna rock the land and people
are definitely gonna hear about it because of where it's
going to be hung. But so ever since the last

(51:55):
couple of years where we've made great gains, the Christian
patriarchy move movement, which is not specifically Catholic, it's Orthodoxy,
it's you, it's even guys like Joel Levin, you know,
a Protestant just arguing for the absolute difference, the absolute

(52:16):
obedience of wives to husbands that Christianity stands for scripturally.
Places like Catholic answers have been running and so they've
been having their apologists come out.

Speaker 10 (52:30):
With limited hangouts like, Okay.

Speaker 19 (52:34):
We're not going to defend out right feminism anymore the
way Trent Horn did in twenty nineteen in this debate
against me, We're going to split the difference, you know,
the way you do with the limited hangout. And that's
what Joe Heshmeier's been doing. He's been making videos against me.
Saying that a wife doesn't have to obey her husband
in all things, even though the Roman Catechism says a

(52:55):
wife has to obey her husband in all things not
inconsistent with Christian piety.

Speaker 10 (53:00):
And that's sort of the battleground.

Speaker 19 (53:01):
And it's a battleground that circumscribes the laity, who's like whatever,
ninety nine percent of the church militant. But yes, it
has implications for how much we should listen to female claerity.
You know, they want to make reiffy female clerics. And

(53:22):
you know, ever since Vatican too, the church started naming
female doctors. There were zero female doctors until like nineteen
seventy of the church.

Speaker 10 (53:30):
It means teacher.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Oh interesting, I never even thought about that. So, yeah,
like the idea of the doctors of the church including females,
I haven't even thought about that. When was the first one,
do you know.

Speaker 19 (53:44):
Nineteen seventy or sixty sixty nine or seventy after Vatican two. Again,
I don't think it's I'm not saying this busts.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
We know, we know Tim, we know you don't think it.
It's just still fun. I didn't know that.

Speaker 10 (53:57):
People saying saying I'm going on here.

Speaker 19 (54:00):
You know, it's just deeply, deeply problematic because doc door
in Latin means teacher, and women are not allowed to
teach men and they are subservient to men, or just
reading a hilarious quote from Ambrose saying Adam is superior
to even men are superior to women even though they
were made outside the garden and she was made inside
the garden.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
But the battle, where are you there? We lost you again?
Elon has determined that Tim only gets Tim minutes try again.

Speaker 10 (54:45):
Can you hear I'm getting better at coming back in?
It's kicking me out fast. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (54:51):
I was just saying something we can all agree on
that we I know do agree on because of how
effective you were in our documentary. Man was not made
for woman, Woman was made for man, and that that's
the whole battleground for both the laity and the clergy,
the way that the infiltrators are trying to introduce feminism

(55:12):
into Christianity and have done so for one hundred and
fifty I.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Think you're that's a key point too, that people don't
realize that the gender subversion is actually the stronger, more
effective way to subvert than just trying to like introduce
some you know, gay friendly document or some you know,
some other tertiary thing, like a really cunning subversive way

(55:37):
to destroy things is actually this kind of gender stuff.

Speaker 19 (55:42):
How many how many trainees or people that were even
tempted to transsexualism have you ever met?

Speaker 10 (55:49):
I've none, like none, it's it's fake.

Speaker 6 (55:51):
How many?

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Very few? Yeah, yeah, very few?

Speaker 19 (55:55):
But how many households are affected by feminism?

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Exactly?

Speaker 10 (56:00):
It's like every single one we grew up.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
With, Well, every girl is told, every girl is told, oh,
you got to go to college and get a law
degree and become a slate queen.

Speaker 10 (56:08):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, every single one.

Speaker 19 (56:10):
And everyone's mom, you know, growing up in the eighties, nineties,
early two thousands, where it was the.

Speaker 10 (56:16):
Main person they asked, not their dad.

Speaker 19 (56:18):
That's disordered, you know, it was not father knows best.
And when you look into the history of feminism what
you have and I have, and Rachel Wilson has, and
my wife Dez in her book, it's just very clear
that we were alied to. Even about the historiography, feminism
is not like sixty years old. It dates back to

(56:38):
the middle eighteen hundreds, right, your grandparents' grandparents were feminists.
And the proof of that is literally I've been in
arguments with like my one hundred year old grandma when
I was complaining about my female boss and she was saying, Oh,
I could have been your boss, you would have been good.
I'm like, no, it's unnatural. It makes me feel.

Speaker 10 (56:58):
Makes me feel unnatural, really.

Speaker 19 (57:00):
Bad to ever be bossed arooned by one because it's
unnatural and it's unscriptural.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Absolutely yeah, And this is so contrary to where like
everything in society is. But Tim, I appreciate you being
bold on this, and you're you did a book on patriarchy,
and then your wife has one as well, right.

Speaker 10 (57:22):
Yeah, it's called The Case for Patriarchy.

Speaker 19 (57:24):
This was honestly had a lot of a lot of
the major conservative outlets, even even Michael Knowles was really
really pushing it hard when it came out four years ago.
And my wife's book is called Ask Your Husband, quoting
Scripture there too. So you know, we, along with you,
along with Rachel, were at the forefront of this Catholic

(57:47):
and her husband Andrew Wilson, this Christian patriarchy movement, and
it's it's the most important thing. It's the most important
thing to the elites and the subverters.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
It really is. And this is so overlooked because you know,
all this stuff begins in the family, begins at home, right,
That's where children are imprinted, so to speak. I mean,
I'm not saying it's all environment or whatever, but that
the genetic type. You know, people are imprinted from their
birth by the relationship and roles that they immediately experience

(58:18):
in the way that mom and dad act and treat
each other. So if a child is raised always you know,
being you know, by a single mom or always you know,
if you got to understand their situations where people can't
avoid that. But when they see this sort of like
you know, cucky behavior by the dad or the absentee
dad or whatever, or the you know, feminist, insane mom, like,

(58:43):
it causes the aberrations later on in life where men
grow up to not actually be men, but to be
just sort of default, subservient to whatever women are saying.
And so I think you're spot on, Tim. What time
is your stream today for people that want to check
out your respect? Joe Heschmiiner, Oh, we're.

Speaker 10 (59:01):
Gonna do like one thirty CST. Could I just add
one one thing to what she just said.

Speaker 19 (59:07):
I just think about this, and this is why we
called the documentary that's going to rock everyone What a
Woman Is. As opposed to Matt Walsh's documentary What Is
a Woman?

Speaker 10 (59:18):
He actually doesn't get.

Speaker 19 (59:19):
Around to answering the question, and all he says is
that a man is not a woman.

Speaker 10 (59:23):
He says what a woman is not.

Speaker 19 (59:26):
And then the documentary that Walsh came out with definitely True,
proceeds to prove a point that everyone already knew, which
is that oncological gender dysphoria i e. Transsexualism is false.
Everyone knew that, no one ever believed it. But what
everyone believes is feminism. The name for feminism is functional
gender dysphoria. It's just a man acting like a woman,

(59:49):
a woman acting like a man. You talk about this
in What a Woman Is? I talk about it a
great deal. In the case for patriarchy, that's the one
that got everyone. Man, that's the gender justice worried. That
screws up everyone, probably turns people gay, makes men and
women hate each other, screws them up. You know, wires

(01:00:09):
women to want to go do male things, men to
want to nurse their babies, or whatever the shit. It's
crazy and it's the big it's the big, it's a
big lie. It's the final attack on the family tim.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
A lot of people in the chat are saying, and
they used to stick up for you, but then you said,
Phantom Menace is good.

Speaker 10 (01:00:27):
Come on, the prequels are the best. The prequels are
the best.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
What whoa dude, You're just raised baby?

Speaker 19 (01:00:33):
Come on now, I'm not. I'm like, Episode four is
straight up garbage. A New Hope is almost unwatchably bad.
That's this is the first time I've heard anyone with
this take. I'm almost like, I'm sort of I'm not
sure what to do here.

Speaker 10 (01:00:49):
I like Empire Strike's bag, Luke's a little bitch. Episode
four is hard to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I like Lukes always a little bit, but also that's
his character arcic, like he he sort of like grows
up by Return of the Jedi. And yes, I know
that the Empire is actually the really based people and
the Jedi are like the gay relatives. I know all that.
I'm just saying, like, no, not even on that.

Speaker 19 (01:01:14):
I'm just saying, look, episode one, so here's it's the
principal of Darth Maul is badass, right, and George Lucas
overused Vader in four or five six and you see
Vader like scrubbing his fucking toilet.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Dude, the whole chat is saying that you're a Star
Wars heretic. I am, but I'm with the Zoomers on
the problem. Okay, okay, So he overused Vader in four
five six. You see Vader like reading on the toilet.
He's in every scene, and so it takes.

Speaker 10 (01:01:46):
Away his badass ness. And so Lucas over.

Speaker 19 (01:01:49):
Learned that principle and overcompensated and then came up with
Darth Maul, who's the coolest character in Star Wars, and
he underused him. He's only in two scenes in Chant
of Mess, so that's definitely a problem.

Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
Qui Gon's also cool.

Speaker 19 (01:02:02):
He killed them too early, but jar Jar is really
the hero.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
And I'm gonna say, wow, okay, I'm just gonna decide
to steal man this whole thing and say that you're
rage bating because this is it's blowing my mind. I don't,
by the way, I don't hate the prequels like a
lot of people do. I just think they're kind of silly.
I like the plot though, like there's some interesting sort

(01:02:25):
of false flag style conspiracy stuff going on in uh
in the prequels. But anyway, Uh, well, Tim, I appreciate
you coming on. Thank you for your h your take.
I think a lot of insight, a lot of wisdom there.
Anything you want to leave us with, Uh.

Speaker 19 (01:02:41):
Yeah, yeah, everyone, I'll be I guess doing the stream
at one point thirty if you want to hear the
real Christian point of.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
View on man woman relationship. And I asked you real quick,
real quick, what what exactly was Joe saying? Like what
was his critique of you? Because I didn't I didn't
hear all this.

Speaker 10 (01:02:58):
He said that.

Speaker 19 (01:03:01):
Paragraph seventy six of Cassidy Kanoby allows women to.

Speaker 10 (01:03:07):
Wives specifically to.

Speaker 19 (01:03:10):
Basically repudiate their husband's orders on crudential matters.

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
He gave the specific.

Speaker 19 (01:03:14):
Example of buying a car. If a husband wants to
buy a car, he should, I guess his wife if
she thinks it's imprudent, can.

Speaker 10 (01:03:24):
Repudiate.

Speaker 19 (01:03:25):
And this is specifically rejected by the Roman Catechism, by
scripture by Pope's Pious ten eleven twelve.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
So he literally gave these so like she's vetoing it
or something like I'm gonna buy the car and wife
says no, Then that's the end of the story. Is
that what he's saying.

Speaker 19 (01:03:43):
Yeah, he somehow says that, you know, the husband has
final say, but she can veto. And he attributes this
to Pious the Elevens, who in castid Canuby says a
wife must obey in all things.

Speaker 10 (01:03:58):
It's very strange.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
Okay, all right, cool, appreciate that. I'm sorry. I didn't
mean to cut you off. What were you going to say?
Were you going to say more? Because I was curious
what his critique was or what his response was. Did
you want to say more about it?

Speaker 10 (01:04:09):
It's a limited hangout there.

Speaker 19 (01:04:11):
They're really scrambling because the Christian patriarchy position has gained
so much, such a head of steam.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
You mean that Catholic answers is that?

Speaker 21 (01:04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:04:20):
Yeah, they're just Lyla Rose, you know, Trent Horn, Joe Heshmeier,
the rest of Catholic answers. They are scrambling to fabricate
and then defend new positions, you know, new iterations of feminists.
You know the Martin Bailey thing they used to try
to defend. Yeah, yeah, what's vicious version of feminism now

(01:04:43):
they're getting painted.

Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
Into it in irrevocable moral corner.

Speaker 19 (01:04:46):
And they're just trying to defend less ambitious forms of
feminism and it's not going to work.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
I haven't kept that with Lyla Rose. What was your
critique of her response to her?

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
Oh? Everything, she's terrible.

Speaker 19 (01:04:57):
She's just terrible. She's uh, total feminists. She recently did
a video over Thanksgiving. She's talking about dating her husband,
and she's just basically dressing him down, saying in the nicey,
nicey miss Chris Lilah roseway that her husband was kind
of more excited and she didn't have butterflies by the
time she married him, but it was a sensible match

(01:05:18):
because they dated a lot. I don't want to mischaracterize it,
but it's it's terrible. And she she thinks women can
work and you know, bring their kids in to work.

Speaker 10 (01:05:29):
And she says feminism is good.

Speaker 19 (01:05:31):
She says first wave feminism is good, which is actually
the most evil wave of it. As you know, just
everything she says is wrong, aside from the.

Speaker 10 (01:05:38):
Fact that abortion is wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
I'm not doubting you. I just I've never really even
kept up with his chick, so I don't know much
about what she talks about, but I don't doubt you
at all.

Speaker 10 (01:05:46):
She's influential. She was at the White House yesterday. Oh wow,
it's unfortunate I have to.

Speaker 19 (01:05:51):
Deal with her because she's the Catholic and I'm a
Catholic and she's constantly selling snake.

Speaker 17 (01:05:55):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
Well, thanks for chomming, Endue. Appreciate your take on all this,
and look forward to, by the way, when that gets announced,
the big announcement as to where that's going to be premiering.
We got to get you to come on and talk
about all that again.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
Okay, it should be next week early awesome?

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
All right, bro, all right, thanks Tim, you too, man Later,
So guys, look for that. There's going to be a
lot of fun, a huge documentary. Shout out to Nick
stumpauser for making a really cool documentary and putting me
in there for a sizeable chunk. I didn't know how
much of it would actually make it into into the documentary,
but that was really cool of Nick to do that.
And shout out to Tim for kind of setting that

(01:06:39):
up arranging that when that gets out and announced, no worries,
I'll be talking about it a lot don't worry. If
you don't understand what's going on, it'll be announced. It'll
be up. FDA is in the chat. Did you want
to chime in? You got something you want to say
on this, Bob. I didn't realize that Christian Mario was
on Tim's channel, So shout out to Tim for having

(01:07:00):
Christian Mario on talking about Zionism, patriarchy, and evangelization. So
that looks like a cool chat there, FD. You want
to say something, all.

Speaker 10 (01:07:12):
Right, So I do want to say something. I want
to give a shout out to Methleene Blue. I am
feeling awesome. Thank you, Jay Jake.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
I did actually get him to take some. He took some.

Speaker 10 (01:07:21):
Yeah, we got some, and I'm feeling really good right
now too. I'm streaming through mine. We've got a bunch
of goblins and that can come on.

Speaker 22 (01:07:31):
And we've got to call no man's father. All you
need is to believe Jesus in your heart. All religions
man made. We had some, so we're streaming yours through
here so they can come on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
So we are you talking about to Yeah? Where is this?
What are you talking about?

Speaker 10 (01:07:56):
So I'm doing my YouTube and I'm throwing in the
X right here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Oh, to get them to come on here. Yeah, okay,
that works, So you guys can.

Speaker 22 (01:08:07):
Come on and just tell me how you should never
call anybody father or teacher, and that all you need
is to say the magic words Jesus in my heart.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
By the way, Leo, have you noticed, there's like this
expectation that each of the popes, and I think the
patriarchs do it too. The EP does it too, Like
they go to the Blue Mosque and they take their
shoes off and pray. And now Leo has done it.
I don't know if he prayed, but he apparently takes
his shoes off to walk into the holy ground of
the mosque. Have you seen this? No, well, you know

(01:08:42):
that they've all prayed. Right Look there he's taking his
shoes off. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna mute you because
that's offensive to me that you're clicking on your nineteen
ninety nine.

Speaker 10 (01:08:58):
I started like chewing food like that's only for me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
To do on my streams. You can't take my you
can't steal my vibe, dude by chewing food loud on
your stream. So yeah, so Leo took off his shoes
before entering the Blue Mosque. What that was so humble
of him to do that while so spiritual. I wonder
if he prays in there though. Does he actually pray

(01:09:24):
or does he just walk around in his in his
sock feet, getting getting a Muslim dust and funk all
over his socks his socky feet. Is he wearing Gucci socks?
But what kind of socks does the pope wear? I
think it is Gucci socks, right, Whatever gay Italian brand is,
like the biggest gay Italian brands kind of be what

(01:09:47):
isn't it? Isn't it something? And there are some truth
to that, Like there's like one of these big gay designers,
Versaci or Gucci. Somebody makes like all the papal outfits.
I think I think I heard that. Okay, So Cleave
is saying he didn't pray, which is interesting because Francis

(01:10:10):
and uh John Paul the Second prayed in the mosque. No,
Benedict and Francis prayed in the mosque, but Leo just
took off his shoes and walked around. Interesting. John Adams
is in the house. What's up? John? Wet's see if

(01:10:31):
we get some of these Protestants in here. That were
yapping an FDA's chat Prada Protestants get it. So you're
saying Prada makes the papal styles.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 23 (01:10:50):
Don't chin Gabana has some stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:10:54):
I don't think these people are real. There's new way
that people are this like.

Speaker 22 (01:10:57):
I'm look, I'm optimistic, man, I'm just I'm not a dumer.
I really don't believe people are this stupid. I don't
think they're actually real.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
I think they are. I know they are. I assure
you I've been out amongst the masses there that they're
that crazy. The priest that yeah, so okay, Francis was
a product Pope Prada bena to Okay, the devil wears Prada. Yeah, yeah,

(01:11:27):
got there.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
You go nice.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
Look at those sassy little rayed shoes. Okay, uh, John,
did you want to comment on anything other than the
latest styles? John is our John is our Vanity Fair correspondent.

Speaker 23 (01:11:45):
By the way, I'm the pop culture correspondent.

Speaker 10 (01:11:50):
No.

Speaker 23 (01:11:51):
If I think it's something, I'll try and back in.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Okay, cool, Let's see who's up next. Trevor. What's up? Yeah, Trevor,
you boy, Trapp, Trevor. I'm mute, man, all right, I'm
just gonna do it. I'm gonna make T shirts to
say I'm mute, dude. It's just time to do it,
because yeah, it was inevitable. Neil and Kate were like,

(01:12:15):
when are you gonna make unmutuo shirts? I'm like, okay, okay.
Then Trevor just leaves.

Speaker 22 (01:12:20):
Well, remember I was I mentioned years back, I was
gonna make vindicated shirts for you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
That'll work.

Speaker 10 (01:12:27):
That'll work. Hell, can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Hey? What's up?

Speaker 10 (01:12:33):
Hey? Sorry about that? What's up?

Speaker 23 (01:12:36):
Man?

Speaker 10 (01:12:36):
I just had a quick question.

Speaker 24 (01:12:39):
Are you guys on topic or you guys kind of
just talking about random stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:12:43):
We're talking about second order logic and busy and probability.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
No, talk about whatever you want, man, what's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (01:12:50):
Okay.

Speaker 19 (01:12:52):
I'm not the brightest dude, but I know I've seen
some Jehovah witnesses.

Speaker 10 (01:12:55):
Yeah, I seen the Jehovah witnesses the other day and I.

Speaker 24 (01:13:00):
I was just asking them a couple of questions, just
trying to understand what they believe, and they they started
to go on this rant about how Orthodox and Catholics
and whatnot.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
A lot of are.

Speaker 24 (01:13:16):
What's it called, like, traditions are based and like paganism, which.

Speaker 10 (01:13:22):
But one of the things they tried to say was
they brought up.

Speaker 24 (01:13:28):
Like one of their sorry, dude, I'm you call me
at a brand time.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
You want to come back in later, you want to
you want to just take a break, gather your thoughts,
will bring you right back up. Ras. What's up?

Speaker 23 (01:13:41):
Man, Jesus wasn't crucified on across that's their biggest one.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Yeah, but this was a This was a good thing
to point out that like a lot of the things
that that Jobah's witnesses think are quote pagan, they kind
of have a word concept fallacy thing going on where,
uh they think that something that comes from a culture
that is perhaps pagan, makes all of those things pagan.
So for example, the days of the week, right they're related,

(01:14:09):
or the months that're related to gods and deities of Rome,
or if you wear a wedding ring, that's pagan because
people in Rome did it and they were pagan. This
is silly, right, because it's a difference between a pagan
culture which elements of the culture can be baptized, versus
things that are idolatrous. So as Orthodox we don't want
to be involved in anything that's idolatrous. But there's many,

(01:14:32):
many things in pagan culture that's perfectly fine and can
be baptized because things in themselves are good. There's no
such thing as a thing that is inherently evil.

Speaker 10 (01:14:42):
Except for the word father. Obviously that's intrinsically evil and.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
Well according to some of these evangelicals. Yeah, I remember
there was a guy recently that was evangelical. Due was like, cool,
no move father. I was like, how do you keep
the Ten Commandments? And he's like, that's different. Okay, so
it doesn't mean call no man father, right, Like you
can qualify it. What's up, man, ras, what's up?

Speaker 25 (01:15:10):
I've watched a live stream of yours like last year,
and I can't really find it anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
I don't know if it's a member's only video.

Speaker 25 (01:15:18):
Now you are talking about the Frankfurt school and all
the weirdo was like, Wilhelm Reich.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Yeah, I think I made that one private. Yeah, oh
all right, what about it?

Speaker 25 (01:15:31):
I was thinking, like you were just trying to find it, yeah,
because I thought maybe you two to get down because
it's kind of a sensitive topic.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
That's possible. Honestly, there's so many live streams I don't
remember anymore, but I know that one of the ones
that's public where I talked about Wilhelm Raiger is I
think the one called the Psychology of the Left, and
I did get into Frankfurt School in that one. I
think that one is still uh, but you might not
have been able to find it just because it doesn't
say frank for School in the title. So let's see

(01:16:04):
if I can find it for Psychology to the Left,
Jade Dyer, that might pull it up. Yeah, it's these
two right here do touch on that, but it also
might be in the second part for members too, I
don't remember. So there's the Secret Philosophy of the Left
and his technique and the Psychology the Left history and analysis.

(01:16:26):
Both of those do touch on Wilhelm Reich and his
role in the sexual revolution and the frank for School.

Speaker 25 (01:16:33):
Great Also, I wanted to say that the Roman Catholic
Church is actually very traditional and based because they're upholding
the ancient Greek or Roman tradition of having gay sex
and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Thank you. Absolutely, Yeah, we're overlooking this line of argumentation
that there's there's there's trad butt sex, there's trad touching
the butts, that's being overlooked here. And in fact, you know,
there was a guy that in defending Evila Julius evil
as bays and trad and I was like, yeah, we're
you know, the based trad version of Greco Roman homo

(01:17:11):
eroticism is just like people can't respond, they can't deal
with this level of argumentation, so they're having to go
towards liberal queer theory and not trad queer theory. And
that's a great point. That's a joke. By the way,
uh Ali train, what's up man, guys, If you want

(01:17:31):
to support the stream, you can do. So there's superchats.
We noticed on the other night's live stream that I
didn't start getting super chats and until I started roasting
you guys in the audience. When I started roasting you
guys and calling you poores like Tom Sigura, that's ironically
when you guys started super chatting. So I'm gonna just
start roasting everybody as the pores in the chat, and

(01:17:53):
I'm gonna go full Tom Sigura, and that's when you
guys start throwing in the money. That's a weird that's
human like reverse I call it. That's how it works,
They're like, because then what happens is they want to
prove that they're not in the pores, and so they
start super chatting me to prove that.

Speaker 10 (01:18:08):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Actually, I've got extra cash, bro check out how much
I'm super chatty right now? Reverse Psychology. Hello, Hey, what's
up dog? How are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
All right?

Speaker 10 (01:18:21):
So I would you mind?

Speaker 26 (01:18:23):
I want to get your idea on a little bit
on changing images of man if that's possible.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Sure, yeah, I we just cover it.

Speaker 10 (01:18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:18:30):
So I actually got my hands on the physical copy
of the book, which was kind of surprising, and I
got it at my school library, which I was really really.

Speaker 10 (01:18:40):
Surprised they had it.

Speaker 26 (01:18:41):
And dude, yeah, let me tell you those things are barren,
these shows nothing. But you know, right now, I'm graduating
and I've realized that really the big issue with school
is the whole idea of nobody understands even their own
worldview paradigm. And as I was just like just skimming

(01:19:05):
through the book a little bit, I noticed that on
page one they talked about the cultural.

Speaker 10 (01:19:11):
Transformation and through crisis.

Speaker 15 (01:19:14):
And then they talk about then in the.

Speaker 26 (01:19:18):
Next page, through the conceptual revolution of science and through
the concept of Maceway, and it's literally that they're literally
just talking about how oh it's you know, we're just
going to change everyone's worldview in order to affect all
these changes and everything. And now, you know, kind of

(01:19:39):
reading that and like self examining the past and my
education or if you would even call that education, I'm like,
what the hell?

Speaker 10 (01:19:47):
There's like I didn't really learn much. All the learning
that I really.

Speaker 26 (01:19:53):
Got was either through me actively pursuing and trying to
find the truth myself outside of school, and it was
never really I was never really challenged within school, except
if I try to maybe have a debate with someone,
you know, but that was sometimes just like you never
get anywhere because nobody wants to argue worldviews. And I

(01:20:17):
just realized, I think that's my biggest critique. I don't know,
what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Yeah, no, I think that, you know, college academia education
is for the most part, unless you're in some sort
of like private school or Catholic coal school setting that's
like you know, based around the classics or classical pedagogy
or classical education. Like most of what you're getting, it's
not that it's totally wrong or totally bad. But you know,

(01:20:43):
I was doing undergrad grad stuff about ten years ago,
and even at that time, like it was already getting
pretty heavy with the lib stuff, the woke stuff. It
wasn't totally woke like I think it probably is now,
but it was like a good ways there. So I
would imagine, I'll put it this way, I would say,
when I was there, it was probably if I was

(01:21:06):
to gauge it, like fifty percent good education, now sixty
percent good education, forty percent kind of live brainwashing, And
I would bet by now it's probably seventy thirty.

Speaker 10 (01:21:16):
What I'm because it's bad.

Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
It's bad.

Speaker 15 (01:21:18):
I'm like, I'll give you a quick example.

Speaker 26 (01:21:21):
One time I had a debate because I was explaining
to someone how it's inherently contradictory for Mamdani to be
a Muslim or claimed to be a Muslim and also
support the skittle stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:21:34):
Right all at the same time.

Speaker 15 (01:21:36):
And they were confused.

Speaker 26 (01:21:37):
And then they asked me if I viuse on how
it works in Christianity, and I give them the Orthodox
perspective essentially, And I was even debidding this, there was
a trans person in front of me talking about this.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
I don't know if this was dumb or brave, but
uh for me.

Speaker 10 (01:21:53):
To do this in front of them, But like.

Speaker 26 (01:21:57):
All everyone was worried about because it was me and
through the people, All they were worried about was whether
I fit their definition of homophobic rather than trying to understand.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
Yeah, they don't care about your argument, dude. It's all
about like it's a cult. Dude. It's like you're dealing
with a cult. You're not dealing with people that are
trying to figure out logic and reasoning.

Speaker 26 (01:22:14):
And I told them, I was like, guys, I gave
you my definition of homophobic and they.

Speaker 10 (01:22:19):
Gave me theirs. And I told them, we're at an impasse.

Speaker 26 (01:22:22):
We're not going to get anywhere until we examine each
other's worldviews.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
Yet, now you're spot on, du because look, you're trying
to reason with people that have been given over to
a debased mind and have forfeited their reasoning. That's the
problem here. So we're not at a point where, oh,
we're going to reason these people back into the right positions. Right,
I'm talking about those people. There are still people that
you can reason with. I'm not saying that it's total right.

(01:22:46):
There are people who are willing to learn, want to learn.
But when it comes to like mainstream education, being in
that system. Again, unless you're like in father Deganonias's class,
which is probably not most people right in terms of
academ and most professors are probably pretty bad, would be
my guess. You're not dealing with people who want logic
reasoning and who want truth. Remember this is a key point.

(01:23:09):
Many people, especially as things get worse and worse, they
actually don't want what's true. They actually want to fight
against what's true. That's a really crucial insight into I
think human psychology. And you know, when you're young, you
think I'll reason with these people, I will debate them
into the truth. And then as you debate throughout your

(01:23:29):
twenties and into your thirties, you started to realize a
lot of people don't want the truth, and there's no
argument that I'm going to present that's going to convince everybody.
And it's not because of a lack of evidence or
a failure in your argumentation. Oftentimes it's actually because again
remember back to the beginning of the talk today, we
were talking about Ransom C. S. Lewis's Space Trilogy, Volume three.

(01:23:53):
What's Professor Ransom's what's excuse me, not Ransom, I said Ransom, Mark,
I'm getting Ransom mixed up with Ransom is supposed to
be C. S. Lewis talking about Tolkien. Ransom is based
on Tolkien. Mark is the character in volume three who
intentionally chooses the evidence that he wants to be true.

(01:24:16):
So he has in his life a bunch of evidences
that point to the organization that he's a part of,
being basically Tavistock being the bad guys. And he's also
got evidences that he thinks well, but they are also
trying to do good things, and they told me that
they're good and their intentions are good. So I'm going
to choose the evidences that make me part of a
good thing, and I'm going to ignore the massive amounts

(01:24:39):
of evidences that make me part of a conspiracy against humanity.
And when he has his conversion realization experience, he admits
it wasn't a problem of evidences. I was intentionally ignoring
the evidences and choosing the other counter evidences which were minimal,

(01:25:01):
that confirm my biases. So confirmation bias is that right.

Speaker 23 (01:25:08):
You know, another thing with changing images of man and people,
you know, the like like great ray beats and with
cybernetics and things like that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Sided a bunch of the book, go ahead, yeah, and yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:25:22):
I have a copy of it too, And the changing
of words in general, like just for instance, the color inner.
He just said trans person. Well, like twenty years ago
nobody used that word, and the changing of descriptives and
linguistics to confuse people. And then like they even touched

(01:25:45):
on it in nineteen eighty four with the constant updating.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Of like the terms the appropriate PC terms.

Speaker 23 (01:25:53):
Yeah, it confused confuses not only like normy people, it
confuses us because we in order to be able to
communicate to people, you have to adopt the words too,
even though you know that's not the correct term. You
would say, you know twenty twenty five years ago, Hey
a man who thinks he's a woman is crazy. Now
it's a trans person yee right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
Yeah, The words are intimately tied into the social engineering,
and that's what you understand when you get into these
high level Tavistock type people. And that's exactly what standing
image as a man. It's sri which is tabasak connected,
and that's exactly what Rowo was trying to pin Down
in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 23 (01:26:37):
Yeah, because he knew that.

Speaker 13 (01:26:39):
I mean that was going on even back then, that
they knew if they changed the way of communication and
the adoption of like, oh, let's normalize something that's weird,
and how do we do that. Well, we'll just change
the name of it and we'll start calling it something
else that people would in their minds start thinking it
was normal.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
And I want to remind everybody if you're interested in
the second half of the analysis of changing image of Man,
we finally did get to it. We finally covered it,
and that was the stream a couple of days ago
or one day ago here Thanksgiving Week with Cat Bondie Dirt,
Poor Robbins and the two thousand dollars book You're not
supposed to read. That is that is the part two
of Changing Images of Man. Let's see Jerry Art, what's up, man, Jerry,

(01:27:31):
what's up? Unmute man, Jerry Art, unmute.

Speaker 10 (01:27:43):
Hello.

Speaker 27 (01:27:45):
Hey, So there's a Greek ausdacesen me and considering the
recent events, if they do like separate from the rest
of the church, the sacraments won't be valid.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Right, Yeah, when there's an excommunication of separation at that
point if you were to come to say a ro
Court church or whatever, they would not accept the baptism
or whatever if it took place after the official removal
or separation.

Speaker 27 (01:28:21):
Right, I mean this is this archidiocese is in Australia,
it's not in America.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
But well that the priests. Yeah, that will matter though,
because I mean, well, like you might, for example, go
let's say you went to a Greek church and they
did not go along with a false union, you would
be fine.

Speaker 27 (01:28:40):
Okay, So how likely do you think the Greek Church
is to separate from the rest of the Orthodox Church.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
I mean it's hard to say. It's probably pretty likely though,
because it doesn't look like I mean, it's basically subservient
to the state department. So he's going to do whatever
he's told to do. It's not it's not about like
the theology. People think. This is all about you know,
who's got the right theology, theology secondary, it's all geopolitics.

Speaker 10 (01:29:11):
Yeah. And the other thing too, is that I agree
with Jay, it's definitely likely.

Speaker 22 (01:29:20):
The question is, and we know that there's going to
be an apostle see any union, we just don't know when.
So is it likely really soon, and you know, I
just want to encourage everybody.

Speaker 10 (01:29:32):
Everybody's filled with fear.

Speaker 22 (01:29:36):
I'm optimistic about We're told, you know, prophecies by the Saints,
and right, I don't lose any sleepover this, Like I
know that it's going to be fine. Like, and that's
just that, you know, these things happen with we're told
they're going to happen. I doubt anything is I mean,

(01:29:56):
I shouldn't.

Speaker 10 (01:29:57):
Say I doubt. I wouldn't say it's highly like that
this is going to happen right now.

Speaker 22 (01:30:02):
It could just be all kind of fluff working towards that,
But it's nothing to lose sleepover.

Speaker 10 (01:30:08):
And people are like really worried, and I'm like, don't
don't let it worry. You'll be fine.

Speaker 22 (01:30:14):
Like there's we have fourteen different patriarch patriots, patriots, patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
They're all maga. We got fourteen patriots.

Speaker 28 (01:30:24):
They're listen, they're all maga. Probably are fourteen patriots, probably
the best patriots out there, all of my favorite patriarchs.

Speaker 10 (01:30:37):
Yeah, from the College of Apostles. But I mean, look,
I was just looking at it.

Speaker 22 (01:30:46):
It's like not everybody's good rest was definitely not gonna
go along with.

Speaker 10 (01:30:49):
That for Georgia.

Speaker 22 (01:30:52):
You know, if this were to happen, it's hard to
say about Antioch. Antioch is based. But what people don't
realize is they're under the yoke of and threat of
the CI and stage crime because they control al Qaeda.
So notice how al Kaida now has like its under

(01:31:13):
control of the CIA and in Syria and everything's five.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
Yeah see I like you said, see, I could say, uh,
sure you sure you don't want isis coming in on
your uh you know your Antioch churches.

Speaker 22 (01:31:25):
There, Yeah, isis Yeah, exactly, So everybody's like, oh, I'm
an address rom like, don't be so naive that. And
like you said, Jay, everybody thinks, whether it's politics or
the church, at the lowest level, it's just about theology.
And see their theology, it's like you're not it's geopolitics first.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
Yeah, for the power elite theology is secondary. That's just
a tool that can be u sort of attached onto
the soft power or even perhaps the hard power. If
it's like if there was like an actual newsra Isis
type of an attack. But but they're all pretty much
the same anyway, like Isis, al Kaeda, al Nusra, they're

(01:32:07):
all just rebrands of the same stuff, and they are
all allied with uh, you know, Israel and the CIA
so openly. By the way, Uh just look up Timber
Sycamore that was all declassified recently. That's just CIA billion
dollar project to overthrow Asad and put Joelani in and
then Jolani is invited to Washington, d C. To meet

(01:32:28):
with the rabbis and Trump.

Speaker 22 (01:32:30):
And all these you or was a cotel that was
doing playing that stream of that Jewish guy just.

Speaker 19 (01:32:38):
Uh basically saying like, yeah, we control like.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Me you're talking about you're talking about the Al Jazeera
interview with the former head of Massade saying that yeah,
well he was like he looked.

Speaker 10 (01:32:50):
Like a younger guy.

Speaker 19 (01:32:51):
He was like speak.

Speaker 10 (01:32:53):
I don't know if he was a young rabbi or
something like this.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Oh maybe it was told yeah, I'll.

Speaker 10 (01:32:58):
Have to find it was actually there. It's just saying
it right there, like, why are people giving us a
hard time? But that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
Well the other thing too, is look about this false union.
Like people are saying the chat. Most of the people
who are a laity that we've met over the last
several years that are serious about their faith. No, but
they don't want this. Nobody wants this. The only people
that want this would be like corrupt a humanist bishops
and people that are in sort of political positions that

(01:33:25):
are like the arcons or whatever, that are putting pressure
for this for their own personal reasons. So the people
that actually care about the theology are absolutely not going
to go along with this. So the good thing about
this is that this is like a winnowing fan that
will separate the week from the chaff. And you'll notice
the people that go along with it are a bunch
of people who are going to want all the faking
gay stuff, like the literal faking gay stuff. So it's

(01:33:50):
a good thing. This is like cleaning the house. Yeah,
go to Rome, Like this will actually show like who
the you know, serious people and the fake people are.
So now I'm not saying it's good, Tavisk, we don't
want that. But at the same time, you know, it's
like God's chastisements bring the division, the good division, separating

(01:34:12):
the week from the chaff. That's a good division. So
the people who are accumnists, by the way they act
like all division is bad. Oh, well that's not biblical
because God says all the time, I will separate the
week from the Jeff, I have a remnant that of
not vowed to eat the bail. So it sounds to
me like division in many cases is actually good. But
these people play word games and act like all division

(01:34:33):
is bad. They're so divisive. Oh Jay Dyer, Oh the
father Hears, Oh, the Metropolitans of Roquere, they're all divisive.
Vogiat aias is a divisive person. Well, if you're dividing
about something good, that's actually a good thing. Sometimes you
need to divide. That's what these people are just retarded about.

(01:34:54):
But guys, you.

Speaker 23 (01:34:58):
Brought this up in your second part of the Changing
Images of Man is one of the key components of
the future is going to be what the world chemical.

Speaker 5 (01:35:06):
Of churches Exactly. There's a whole section on World Council
churches and the creation of a new World religion. Exactly.
The new world religion is perennialism. Why perennialism, Well, that's
the religion that ultimately can combine all the religions and
thus overcome divisiveness. Exactly. Oh, by the way, talk to

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Speaker 10 (01:36:50):
J J six ts joke.

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
Oh, now you're trying to get my streams taking down, Drew.

Speaker 10 (01:37:03):
If you guys took this stuff, he stopped being so scared.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
No, as people in the chat are saying, the poors
are winning now at the pores. You don't know. So
I made this joke on the stream the other night
because people don't people. There was a lot of people
in the chad didn't know this. So the famous comedian
Tom Segura, once he got really kind of big and popular,
he started getting kind of snooty with his audience and

(01:37:27):
calling them poors, and his whole audience turned on him.
And so now every time he goes on a podcast,
all the comments are people making fun of him and
just saying, oh, we're so blessed as a member of
the poors to be able to hear you know, Tom
Sigura's comedy or whatever. So now I started making jokes
because they weren't commenting, they weren't super chatting. I was calling, heyboy,
the pores because they didn't super chatt so they were

(01:37:48):
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masculinity needs. Drew, what's up on mute?

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:38:13):
What up?

Speaker 23 (01:38:14):
Jay?

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Well? People in the chat are saying, how do I
call in?

Speaker 29 (01:38:18):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
What you call in? Through Twitter? So here's the link
right here. It's in the show description. Call in there
on the xpace? What's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (01:38:25):
Drew?

Speaker 30 (01:38:27):
I don't know if you've heard, but Ibara is completely
swaggerjacking you, and he has started doing.

Speaker 5 (01:38:34):
Impressions, impressions, impressions of what cupcakes and pohos and ding dongs.

Speaker 10 (01:38:42):
He leaves them in the ground when he walks.

Speaker 5 (01:38:46):
Oh, that was a pretty good singer there. That did
not go with the direction. I thought that was funny. Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 10 (01:38:54):
Have you read Uh? I read a book a while
back and started listening to you. It reminded me of it.
Have you read The Forgotten five hundred?

Speaker 13 (01:39:02):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:39:02):
What is that?

Speaker 31 (01:39:04):
UH?

Speaker 10 (01:39:04):
It's about? It's not like a super UH textual book.

Speaker 30 (01:39:11):
It's just kind of a story about UH rescuing down
uh US airmen in Yugoslavia during World War two. Uh,
but it's pretty interesting because it talks about the uh,
the battling factions between uh, you know O S S
and M I six type guys that are.

Speaker 26 (01:39:33):
It's uh me highlev it and it's about the rise
to uh the power of Tito, and.

Speaker 10 (01:39:38):
It talks about UH.

Speaker 30 (01:39:46):
And M I five guys like actually trying to kill
each other because they're trying to you know, promote communism.

Speaker 5 (01:39:51):
There nice, Uh tell me exactly I'm writing. I'm writing
down the title. Tell me it again.

Speaker 10 (01:39:58):
The forgotten five hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:40:03):
More than uh you're you're cutting out, So I'm gonna
appreciate that I've forgotten five hundred. Yeah. I like anything
to do with you know, OSS type stuff and M
I six, So I will definitely get ahold of I
appreciate that if you get a better connection, you want
to make more points, feel free to call it again.

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
There's a channel that just plays like NonStop James Bond.
So I've been binging on that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Oh like the films.

Speaker 22 (01:40:30):
Yeah, although like every single one, Like I'll fall asleep
to it just watching you know, the old ones, all
the different Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
I have a book called That's Our colleagueen, you should
check it out because I write I write about there's
a whole like eighty pages on the James. So here's
what I was referring to people who don't get this joke.
Here's this.

Speaker 32 (01:40:53):
Actually went. A clip from the show went viral. Yeah,
that was about wash cloths, like it was everywhere. It
was a world star. It was on Black Culture News.
I got tagged fucking ten thousand times.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
So this, on the one hand, it's kind of unfair.
I mean, I've never actually listened to Thomsiger's comedy, so
I don't even know if he's funny. I don't. I'm not.
But he's more known now for this viral thing. Oh
my gosh, this spam calls orde me crazy. He's more
known for this sort of viral thing now, which is unfortunate.

(01:41:34):
If you're like a stand up, how easily you could
be sort of quasi canceled. However, he didn't handle this
right because he like went in a worst direction with
sort of it was probably meant to be a joke
initially calling people the poors like, he probably meant it
in a joky way, let's see what he says, but
it backfired.

Speaker 32 (01:41:53):
And It was from an episode that was actually had
already aired like a few weeks or a month prior
or something, and people snipped this clip of us talking
about washcloths being for poors.

Speaker 33 (01:42:05):
This morning, I washed my legs.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Because it sounds like a joke, right, like, oh, you
have a washcloth or you one of the pores. And
then it's like everybody like, try to cancel them of
those in.

Speaker 33 (01:42:15):
My feet in the shower?

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Did you really?

Speaker 33 (01:42:18):
Yeah, so I'm opposed to it still, kay, did you
try it even yet?

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
No, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 33 (01:42:26):
Well, you're just you're just anti black.

Speaker 32 (01:42:30):
No, I don't think it's a black thing. I think
using washcloth is for poor people, but I don't think
that washing your legs.

Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
And feet is for black people.

Speaker 33 (01:42:36):
I agree, I think the washcloth is a poor person
thing because I've.

Speaker 32 (01:42:41):
Only met pors who use them. You know what's funny
is that it started. I think, you go, do you
wash your legs and feet? I go, No, I'm not black,
because on a previous episode we talked about who washes
their legs and feet? And I think it was only
any that said he did.

Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
See that's in the context of comedy, which is kind
of unfortunately. Now again he probably wasn't being a douchebag
about it, but like that is kind of funny actually, but.

Speaker 16 (01:43:08):
He wasn't there that day clearly well and he's the
only one here who took the day off, washes his
legs and feet making a shout out to any but
he wasn't there anyway, this clip, I was like, you know,
in the clip, I go, no, I don't think it's
for but I do think it's for ports.

Speaker 32 (01:43:26):
I got to think, you know, cool people use mash
glass and dude, it went everywhere and a lot of
people commented, I mean a lot notable people like rappers, actors,
you know, activists.

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
So here's the crazy thing about it. And again I'm
not saying that Thompson girl wasn't being a douchebag about it.
The crazy thing is that you can now cancel people
with an out of context clip of ten seconds that
goes viral and then like all of the masses of people,
they don't go double checked see if it's accurate. They
just go by that. And again, like I have plenty

(01:44:03):
of criticisms with Trump, but they did this with Trump.
Remember with his uh the comments about him supporting the
people at Charlottesville. That was out of context. Trump pays Mexicans,
that's out of context.

Speaker 10 (01:44:15):
What Well, it's the persepecuity of clips. That's the clips.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
Just say what they they mean what they say, and
they say what they mean, right, Why.

Speaker 10 (01:44:26):
Would you we need context? And look further, this persecuity
of clips.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Well, uh, I've had it happened a couple of times,
Like so far nobody has like clipped me out of context.
But I think I'm sure, like if Lord Willing the
audience continues to grow, I'm sure that's going to happen
where they're going to find some old clip and may
being you know, act and retarded. I mean, look at
this guy.

Speaker 23 (01:44:48):
He's gay.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
Look he's gay. He makes a gay joke, he says
he's gay right here.

Speaker 32 (01:44:51):
Big time blacks like yeah, the games, Wow, really I
even know that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
I know that is yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:45:00):
Yeah he was like the smell like hot dog water.

Speaker 33 (01:45:04):
That's amazing, I.

Speaker 32 (01:45:07):
Tell you, the only like super disappointing thing. A couple
of comedians were like, uh, what's this all about?

Speaker 33 (01:45:14):
And I'm like, you don't you don't run out?

Speaker 23 (01:45:18):
No, no, like you don't under you don't.

Speaker 32 (01:45:20):
I don't even want to explain it, like you don't
see what's going on, Like you don't follow this. I mean,
the next sentence, I was like, I've I've ended friendships
over wash class.

Speaker 5 (01:45:32):
I've ended friendships when I saw wash class. I'm serious.
It's so weird to be able to cancel people just
buy a little clip that goes viral and everyone just
assumes like, oh, yeah, that person is evil now. But
now he may have been a douchebag about his poorest comment.
But like everybody went like, crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:45:54):
Well I made a joke. Well, they're probably gonna clip me.
I made jokes about how poverty is a solution everything.
It's like, you can't afford rent, well, poverty, you won't
have to worry about it. You worrying about.

Speaker 22 (01:46:07):
Social political poverty, you won't be worrying about I mean,
we could go through the list of like how much
things poverty actually solves, which is interesting because it's the
inverse of the leftoid lift everybody out of poverty. I
got the idea that I'm like, well, wait a minute,
it's actually backwards. We wouldn't have any problems. Do you

(01:46:29):
think that we'd have any problems with immigration?

Speaker 10 (01:46:32):
If everybody was poor, nobody want to come here like,
think about it. It's really good. Now somebody's gonna clip
that and I'm going.

Speaker 6 (01:46:39):
To be out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
Oh, by the way, yes, somebody at a good point. No,
the Diamond Brothers actually clipped you out of context, that's correct.
They did. They took a picture of me being a
metal head on a stream and they said I was
being a transvest because I had a way going. That's
so stupid.

Speaker 22 (01:46:54):
My favorite one from the Diamond Brothers is the Orthodox
are responsible for Pearl Harbor?

Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
Are you in serious?

Speaker 10 (01:47:01):
You didn't see unless somebody was joking.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
It was in our minds. I don't I don't watch
I don't watch any of their stuff. I didn't see that.

Speaker 10 (01:47:09):
Hey, I'm gonna let you go. Thanks for having me on, Jay.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Thank you. I appreciate you have Arista. What's up, dog?
Do you want to I'm mute?

Speaker 10 (01:47:19):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 5 (01:47:20):
Hey.

Speaker 34 (01:47:20):
J So I recently got a the log Study Bible,
and in one of the passages they were talking about
how they correlate Ezekiel forty four and the Eastgate Passage
to Mary, and I was just wondering, how did they
translate the literal brick and mortar temple to Mary.

Speaker 10 (01:47:38):
And how do they explain the part where he's going.

Speaker 34 (01:47:41):
To exit the same way he came in if he
entered spiritually and exited earthly.

Speaker 5 (01:47:49):
I mean, the temple itself isn't a real temple. It's
a temple that's spiritual. It's another image of the Church.
A lot of biblical symbols are multi valent, so it's
not Mary or the Church, it's both. So the temple
in Ezekiel and the temple in the Book of Revelation
are both the Church, and they can also be an
image of Mary herself, because Jesus says, destroy this temple,

(01:48:10):
and in three days I will rebuild it. So the
temple can also be an image of Jesus's own physical body.
So it's both and right. So he comes into the
temple Mary as the Temple, and he exits the temple
as the Son of God. So it's not spiritual or physical,
it's both. He comes into Mary as the Son of God,

(01:48:30):
breathed by the Holy Spirit. He takes on flesh from Mary,
he gets his human nature from her, and then he
exits her in the sense of the virgin birth, without
her losing her virginity. Thus she's ever virgin. So it's
of both and and he'll notice that a lot of
biblical symbology operates that way. I see some dude just
laughing hard. What's up, dude? What's so funny? We haven't

(01:48:54):
had any disagreeers yet today where the disagree is at
sin say to you, dis I see you every time
somebody like is hitting the emoji, like spurging out with
the emoji, I know they got an issue. I'm mute, sense,

(01:49:14):
I'm mute. Are you there? It's funny. The first thing
kat Van d said to me when we went over
to her place was she was like, I was listening
to your open calls. Those people are so dumb. I

(01:49:36):
was like, all right, you're cool. I like you already.
That was like the first thing she said, what's up? Sense?

Speaker 10 (01:49:41):
Are you there?

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
She was talking about the average sort of like disagree
or debate callers. She wasn't talking about literally everybody hun her.
It was just a funny comment. That was like the
first thing she said, Hanini, what's up, dude? M M, yeah,

(01:50:07):
what's up?

Speaker 10 (01:50:10):
Can you me? Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:50:12):
All right? Thank you?

Speaker 15 (01:50:14):
Your space keeps them.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
Quite up by the way. I don't know why, but
it's because of a stupid ass.

Speaker 29 (01:50:18):
Uh uh.

Speaker 5 (01:50:25):
Spam call. There's a spam colleague. He's coming there and
go ahead.

Speaker 15 (01:50:28):
Oh okay, cool. First of all, thank you for your content.
I really enjoy it.

Speaker 17 (01:50:32):
I was watching your Trinity in the Old Testament of
the year, but it was really interesting as well.

Speaker 5 (01:50:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:50:38):
I just wanted to ask her. So I come from
a I guess because it's a background.

Speaker 17 (01:50:43):
And one of the others you spoke about how it's
heretical to say that Christ died for arsens.

Speaker 15 (01:50:51):
Or something like that.

Speaker 17 (01:50:52):
I wasn't I can't remember it what you said. Oh sorry,
and he's a human nature to be clear, or something
like that. I couldn't remember it properly. But I guess
how would it be.

Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
Of course, Christ side for our sins. I don't know
what you mean.

Speaker 6 (01:51:05):
He did.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
He did everything that he did. He did it in
both natures at once. It's not I mean, the divinity
is impassable. The divine nature doesn't suffer. The suffering that
occurs is the divine person of the word undergoes the
severance of his human soul from his human body. That's death.

Speaker 17 (01:51:21):
Okay, I think next time I should have got the
exact that's the exact, the exact quote for it.

Speaker 15 (01:51:27):
So in the position, could you just fish out to
me a bit more how he actually works.

Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
By the way, to the people in the chat cat
BANDI was not calling everybody dumb and people are so
freaking sensitive and retarded. Dude, she's talking about the people
that call in to debate are dumb, not every caller.
So what exactly do you do You want to get
specific about what happens is on the cross orsition?

Speaker 15 (01:51:56):
Yeah, about like how salvation works.

Speaker 5 (01:51:59):
I mean, I've got a bunch of videos on that
that would kind of flesh it out more detail. I'm
not going to like rehearse all of that at once,
but I mean, essentially, the divine person of the word
assumes human nature to destroy the power of death over
that fallen nature by going into Hades and dispelling the
devil of the power that he had over death and hades,

(01:52:21):
by taking that back, resurrecting that nature and deifying it
such that by participating in his deified flesh through Eucharus,
we can overcome the passions and attain to the resurrection.

Speaker 15 (01:52:33):
Okay, okay, And that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 10 (01:52:36):
Another one I.

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
Did have about by the way, the best thing, I
would say, the best thing on that topic in TOTO
that I've done is actually if you go down, if
you go to my page and you scroll down on
my YouTube channel to the very bottom, there's an entire
playlist where I work through John Damascus, Saint John Damascus
is on the Orthodox Faith. So it's called traditional philosophy metaphysics.

(01:52:58):
If you start here and you work all the way
over here to about eight episodes in that covers the
totality of all that stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:53:09):
Okay, cool, okay, I will check that out.

Speaker 10 (01:53:11):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:12):
Sure.

Speaker 17 (01:53:13):
I just wanted to talk about tongues as well. So
I guess growing up for like ten years, roughly ten years,
I always thought, you know, tongues was the I guess,
not to anyone but the version that we see in
the Pentecostal churches.

Speaker 15 (01:53:29):
But that for me as well read in scripture, I
see it's not the case.

Speaker 20 (01:53:32):
So is it.

Speaker 17 (01:53:33):
Do you think that, I guess, the tongues when it
comes to foreign languages has ceased altogether or do you
still see that in the Orthodox Church?

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
No, I mean it's like we have a guy in
our church that knows multiple languages. He is blessed with
the gift of tongues.

Speaker 17 (01:53:50):
Oh okay, okay, So it's not like an outbreak like
like how it happens that Pentecost.

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
Well, Pentecost isn't gibberish or quote angel language, which will
mean which would be totally pointless because no humans, no
angel language. Will be no point in people speaking gibberish
angel language. But no, it's it's known language. The miracle
of Pentecost is everyone hearing the Gospel in their native tongue. Right,
So it's a known language. It's not unknown. And that's

(01:54:17):
the nonsense that the charismatics come up with. Yeah, okay,
so tongue is languages, and that's why it's a reverse
and it has to be rational and coherent because it's
the reversal of Babel. So if you go to the
Pentecost liturgy and Orthodox Church, the liturgy is self stresses
that it's the reversal of the confusion of Babel or

(01:54:39):
nesto what's up name? But by the way, shout out
to all the clips channels, because they're actually clipping together
really good, key crucial stuff so that people don't have
to spend forever searching for for example, what is the
explanation and of tongues. Well, Dire Central has a great

(01:55:05):
collation that they've done right here six months ago on
charismatic pentecostal. Here's a charismatic debate refuted. Here's Jay dire refutes.
So it turns out now that all these clip channels
are just like clips maxing in an awesome way. Here's
a whole fifty thousand four hour stream refuting charismatic stuff.

(01:55:29):
So be sure and go check out the reputation of
this stuff on these streams. The clip channels have made
it very easy and by the way, also fascinating development.
Kyle is handing over dire clips to me. And what's
interesting about dire clips that I didn't know this is

(01:55:51):
pretty wild. The only reason Kyle's doing that is that
shout out to Kyle. He's married and having his first
child on the way, so as a man, he is
now birthing a man baby. He's having a butt baby
because he's a man giving birth to it. And I'm joking.
He's married to a girl and they're now having their

(01:56:12):
first child. Turns out, when Kyle was in college, he
would like every few nights listen to a live stream
and create a clip. Kyle has scheduled clips every month
until twenty thirty. I was blown away, as dude, are

(01:56:32):
you serious? Like you did all this work and he
didn't even monetize it, which is which is because when
I was demonetized, I told Kyle that he you can't
monetize it because of you. If YouTube thinks that is
my channel, they'll delete my channel. But now that we're remonetized,
we're going to monetize it, and I will give Kyle

(01:56:55):
a cut because of all his hard work. But I
mean talk about like a dedicated, disciplined dude, like who
clips to twenty thirty and schedules it every month until
twenty thirty. I was like, Kyle, that's awesome, man. So
everybody should be go follow Kyle because that's pretty awesome,

(01:57:17):
and go follow dire clips because nobody even has to
do anything until twenty thirty because dire clips will have
clips until twenty thirty. What's up R nowto.

Speaker 29 (01:57:29):
Hey, Jay Amen, I had a quick question for you,
and it's a question about the Eucharist, and I wanted
to get you to take because I was having a
back and forth with.

Speaker 10 (01:57:38):
A friend of mine and he's arguing.

Speaker 29 (01:57:43):
Basically that when in the Eastern Orthodox religion, when it
talks about the bread and wine becoming the flesh and
blood of Christ, it's an actual flesh, like physically so,
and it's an actual blood. And I'm interpreting, like from
Jonathan Maysk is is like he's physically present, it's an

(01:58:06):
actual thing, but it's not.

Speaker 10 (01:58:08):
It doesn't biologically or like structure.

Speaker 5 (01:58:11):
It's a it's a mystery. It's a mystery. And that's
why the liturgy says, are the rational bloodless sacrifice, So
it's not resacrificing Christ as if there's a bunch of
like actual blood that's going to pour out. It is
the real presence of Christ. It is it is his
true deified flesh present, but it is not a re

(01:58:33):
sacrificing of Christ. Hence this rational bloodless offering, as the
priest says in the liturgy, great question, uh el yasha.
Really the only way to understand the Eucharist is through
the essence inter distinction. And I think this is one
of the strongest arguments that that you know, especially towards
a Catholic like you guys believe in you know, created

(01:58:56):
supernatural grace, whatever that is. What's up?

Speaker 29 (01:59:03):
Hi?

Speaker 10 (01:59:04):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:59:05):
Yes, ma'am?

Speaker 10 (01:59:05):
How are you great?

Speaker 31 (01:59:07):
I just want to start by saying thanks for all
your content. It's been really informational and yeah, completely changed
me and my husband's outlook on Christianity. We've been Protestants
for our whole life, So thanks for that.

Speaker 10 (01:59:22):
I wanted to.

Speaker 31 (01:59:23):
Ask you specifically, like, we're looking to go to an
Orthodox church, but there's like four different ones in.

Speaker 10 (01:59:30):
The closest city.

Speaker 31 (01:59:32):
So I guess my question is, like, how how do
I parse out which church is not compromised?

Speaker 10 (01:59:42):
I guess I don't.

Speaker 31 (01:59:43):
I don't know really anything about the Orthodox Church, but
I've been seeing.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
The Yeah, what I would do, right, what I would
do is visit them all and you'll get a sense
of which one is, like, you know, the right fit
for you. And if you hear just non based off
you'll know, Okay, this is not a a good Orthodox church.
But it tends to be the case that ro Corps
Serbs Antiochians Romanians, they tend to be more on the

(02:00:08):
Bay side versus the non Bays. But again, there can
be good Oca perishes, there can be good Greek perishes.
It really just depends on it's it's it's it's not
so much a jurisdictional issue. I mean it is somewhat,
but it's more so a local issue because you can
have a ro Corp church as bad. I mean, there's
there's bad people everywhere. So uh yeah, just test, go

(02:00:31):
to them all and then give it, give it some
time and see which one vibes with you the best. Jerry,
what's up? So hush tone says for ten dollars people
turn on Tom Sigurro because they were clowning on him
about his complaints about starbuck Stall book Starbucks and him
complaining about expensive cars. Then he went on a rant

(02:00:52):
calling everybody in his fan base the pores. Okay, I
didn't know that part. I thought it was just like
a joke within the podcast about washcloths, but apparently he
doubled down on uh the pores. What's up? Jerry?

Speaker 27 (02:01:07):
Do you want to unmute? Yeah, sir, I just had
one more question. If it's too spiritual, just let me know.
But so near me there's the Greek.

Speaker 10 (02:01:18):
Archidasses and the Coptic Church.

Speaker 27 (02:01:21):
I already know that you don't think the Coptics have
val valid sacraments because they're on Casadentian. Wait what, I well,
the Coptics on Casadentian. So I'm assuming you don't think
the sacraments of valid.

Speaker 5 (02:01:38):
Uh well, validity is more of a Roman Catholic concept.
We just talked about whether they're efficacious or not, and no,
we don't think that the sacraments are afflicationous.

Speaker 27 (02:01:47):
Okay, So with the efficaciousness of any effect on the
sanctify like the sanctification effect.

Speaker 5 (02:01:55):
Yeah, they're they're not efficacious. You can't do the Orthodox
litter or sacraments without the blessing, for example, of an
Orthodox priest or bishop. Right, So in other words, in
the Orthodox Church, like if an Orthodox priest wents to
do the Divine Liturgy but he didn't have the blessing
of the bishop, it's not an Orthodox liturgy. So if
that's true within the church, it's much more true outside

(02:02:18):
of the church. Roman Catholics don't have the blessing of
an Orthodox bishop to do their liturgy, so it's not
a liturgy.

Speaker 27 (02:02:27):
Yep, all right, Yeah, I'm gonna talk to the priests
at the Greek church to see what side he's leaning,
but the the whole reunion.

Speaker 5 (02:02:36):
Thing going on.

Speaker 27 (02:02:37):
But if he does happen to move towards like the
Union side, the Union side, I'll be like away from
churches that have efficacious sacraments.

Speaker 5 (02:02:55):
Well, I would not worry about that too much because
like Trustan is in a similar situation and Ecuador, and
you know, all that's around him is Roccallay churches. But
Tristan was able still to be baptized by a Serbian
Orthodox priest. It was eight hours away. So if Tristan
can arrange being baptized by somebody eight hours away, everybody
can do it. And if you can't do the best

(02:03:18):
you can, like we're not we're not psycho freaks. Like
God knows your heart, knows your intention. If you're doing
the best you can, that's all you can do. Into
the furnace, what's up, man? I still was trying to
figure out exactly what the drama is.

Speaker 35 (02:03:34):
Oh, it'll be interesting to watch Tom Sigarette try to
avoid becoming the next Brandon shop And you can tell
he's definitely aware of the growing sentiment towards him, and
I think he realized trying to dismiss the criticism as
people just being losers and poors probably isn't the best idea.
I mean still, whenever he does a podcast appearance, the
top comment will be somebody making fun of him for

(02:03:56):
either's airport meltdown or just to comment referencing the poors.
So I think the poors definitely got the best of him,
and now Tom knows being some arrogant, elitist, rich guy
in comedy doesn't work very well.

Speaker 5 (02:04:10):
Yeah, I mean, comedy has to appeal to the working
class or else is not gonna work, right. I mean
that that was a huge blunder if that's what he
did according to the hush I mean, I'm not saying
hushtones is wrong. I'm just saying I haven't really kept
up with this. I just remember hearing that there was
some sort of drama over calling the people the poors.
By the way. I'm obviously this audience is smart enough

(02:04:31):
to know that I'm joking when I say everyone's pores.
By the way. In order to prove that you're not
part of the poors, you must super chat because we
only have a small amount of super chat revenue today,
and I can't keep going if you guys don't support
me in super chat, Get our real job, says the Moomer.

(02:04:52):
Who made you?

Speaker 6 (02:04:54):
What made you?

Speaker 5 (02:04:55):
What made you think that live streaming was not a
real job? Zorib says for two dollars and fifty cents, Jay,
no one should terrify their neighbor. Jay will not be undone.
He's playing pranks on everyone. There we go. He gets it.
Jonas ten dollars. Thank you for what you've done, all
this work. It helped me up with upcoming questions. I'm

(02:05:16):
becoming kind of cuman. I told my atheist dad the
other day that he was furious because of bad experiences
with my mom due to coming from a Jehovah's witness family.
I pray for him. Yeah, Joe's witnesses can really damage people.
I think you know, Kurt Metzker was raised Joe's witness
and I think that's one of the reasons that it's
been difficult to get through to Kurt with things like

(02:05:38):
the Deed of Christ and the Trinity is because of
that Joe's witness upbringing. So it can definitely make things difficult.
Into the furnace, I'm mute.

Speaker 23 (02:05:51):
Hey, Jay.

Speaker 10 (02:05:52):
Two quick questions man.

Speaker 36 (02:05:54):
One is I'm working on a I'm working on a
book and a project about kind of like massage Cia.

Speaker 10 (02:06:01):
You know, classic KGB sub version in the church. I've
noticed that there's a pretty big whack.

Speaker 36 (02:06:07):
Of people kind of going into you know, the influence
of the occult in the eighteenth century, I'm sorry, the
nineteenth century, going into the twentieth century of the church.

Speaker 10 (02:06:17):
Just kind of curious. Have you come across any good.

Speaker 36 (02:06:19):
Material that I could probably use that's not too conspiratorial
and sort of like kind of outmanched and crazy, but
maybe something that's more rooted and maybe a little bit
more of like a I don't know, something that's been verified,
kind of like well researched.

Speaker 5 (02:06:37):
Yeah, the two books I mentioned at the beginning, Aaron
in the Wilderness by Migael Raziano and David Weimhoff's book
on John Courtney Maria.

Speaker 10 (02:06:45):
Perfect.

Speaker 36 (02:06:46):
Second question, real quick. This one might be a little
bit of a deeper question. But I recently read a
book by Ivan Alexandrovich Ilvin. I guess I use the
Russian guy, but at the name of the book is
on resistance.

Speaker 10 (02:07:03):
Yeah, what's your what's your take on that.

Speaker 5 (02:07:06):
I've not read that book yet, but I've read a
lot of his essays because Mark Hackard has translated a
bunch of his essays. But I do eventually intend to
get to it. Rost Co, I'm I'm eating a cough
drop because I'm sick. You guys, what do you think
it is? It's not it's not drugs. I'm eating drugs.

(02:07:29):
I'm mute. What's up? Rost Co? Mark Rothko, what's up? Okay,
don't mute, I don't care, donumute whatever. Stevie K three dollars, Jay,
I'm trying to change my Set of a Conscious Dad's position.
He's in the cMRI. It has an insane history, which

(02:07:50):
I pointed out. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like, what are
the best arguments against the SAD? Is John Patrello's book
The Set of a Conscious Delusion. So we helped John
Pontrolo come out of SETA and become orthodox. His book
is a classic Midwest convert. Three dollars also did a
talk on the book. There's a part A park in

(02:08:10):
my neighborhood is called dire Field. It makes me think
about you, but not in a home A good Keep
that shit straight, dude, Austin five dollars. The Treasury of
Merits has not talked about enough. It is a ridiculous
Catholic teaching. Absolutely it is, and it's part of their
dogma too, and it's in Denzinger clear as day. But
you'll notice another Romancaliches talk about this. It's an easy defeater, dude.

(02:08:32):
It's like there's all of these overlooked defeaters, like the
histrionic women, saints and the Treasury of Merits which the
pope can pull from. It's just like, what, Oh, it's
a logical development out of the early canonical It says, no,
it's not the senate Five dollars. Do you think Catholics
are going to stop using the Philly okuay when they

(02:08:52):
pray our Father and the son who aren't in heaven.
I don't get it because they don't say that. I
think that's supposed to be a joke. But people were
trying to make some big deal about Oh, Francis or
of Leo didn't say the Philly oque. That's just for optics, dude. Bird.

(02:09:17):
Ten dollars, can you and Tim Gordon discuss what would
be required for a real reunion. It's a thought experiment. Well, actually,
it's funny you said that, because Tim asked me that
this morning, and I cannot find my tweet where I
actually listed these from several years ago. But the if
you read the little novella, it's not a nobella, it's

(02:09:38):
a letter, but it's actually a little book from Metropolitan
Seraphim Pereis, and he's a famous trad Orthodox bishop in Greece.
When Francis was elected, he wrote a basically a Booklet's

(02:10:00):
see if it's used to be here at Orthodox Christian Information. Yeah,
here it is. I think, yeah, this is it awesome.
I thought it was. For a long time, you couldn't
find this thing.

Speaker 10 (02:10:08):
This is it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:11):
So this letter is actually a really long, basically rebuke
of Vatican nonsense. And it's not just the reason it's
so good is that it also includes all the stuff
you hear me talk about, all the geopolitical stuff, Cia
Davos types of version, like he brings it all up

(02:10:33):
PDF stuff, and all of that concludes with I think
he lists thirty two points. Let's see. I think it's
at the end of the book. He even talks about

(02:11:02):
Opus's day that I can bank money laundering. Look at that.
So you want to call me a retarded crazy conspiracy
there as well, some of the most prominent bishops in
Greece actually bring up all the stuff I talk about,
So you're just showing your own ignorance where I thought
for sure though, there's somewhere in here there's actually a

(02:11:24):
list of thirty or thirty two points. Let's see is this?

Speaker 10 (02:11:31):
Now?

Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
This isn't it? I know what it's in here. Somewhere

(02:11:59):
it's like a it's like an eighty seven page letter,
so I'm not exactly sure where in here it is.
But somewhere he lists all the like major issues.

Speaker 10 (02:12:11):
You hid this to me?

Speaker 23 (02:12:12):
Ja isn't this Remember JP two he didn't say the
Philly OK way once?

Speaker 5 (02:12:17):
Right, Well, they allow the Uniates to not say it,
so right, But.

Speaker 10 (02:12:22):
It wasn't that that was that was a gew political
move to do.

Speaker 5 (02:12:26):
That, I think, So, you know, I that's right. I
mean he's even calling out like the PDF stuff. Anyway,
I will put this in the chat because it's a
really good kind of It basically lists the major issues.

(02:12:48):
And the point is that it's not it's not like, oh,
if we just you know, change the issue with the
bread and if we do paedo communion. If we stop
saying the philli ok, way, then that's cool. Everything will
be the same. There's all these other things that can
never be gotten over because they were dogmatized like you
have ever since the schism, all of these Roman Catholic

(02:13:08):
novelties that are dogmatic, like Treasury of Merits of the
Saints and all this kind of stuff, like it's already
in Catholic dogma. You can't like delete it or get
rid of it, because if you do that, you're admitting
that Vatican one is false, that the papacy didn't preserve
the faith, it defected. Well, if the papacy defected, then

(02:13:32):
Vatican one is false. So you understand that Rome will
have to like get rid of delete all these ecumenical councils.
They're not going to do that. Peter five dollars. I
was in go I've been in go Arc for ten years.
The priest is solid. When should I leave if there's

(02:13:54):
a formal union, or when the monasteries leave or my
metropolitan signs on, Yeah, I think those would be good
public signs. Austin Treasure Merits has not talked about enough
as a ridiculous klogue teaching exactly tribulation. Saint Sindal Jay,
can you talk about the ridiculous push because of ecumenism
from Catholic media that the seat of Peter and the

(02:14:15):
seat of Saint Andrew is a new invention. I don't.
I'm not sure what Catholic media is doing with this
idea of Seed of Peter and Seed of Andrew. But
I think in the first hour we kind of talked
about just the overall kind of absurdity of the acumenism
at work here. Let's tell God five dollars. When you

(02:14:35):
were in Rcia, was it a woman? Actually it wasn't.
It was Actually my I had a I had a
pretty good uh Novasorto parish when I converted in two
thousand and three, I mean as Novasorto Parish as go.
It was actually pretty traditional and conservative overall. And know,
the priest who was always really cool to me was

(02:14:56):
a nice guy, father father Victor. He did the he
did the RCA, and he was not really any kind
of lib Jonathan Kelly Methylene blue gang, let's go, Alex
needs to restock that store. I have been enjoying the
Methleen blue. And when we did our conference everybody's sort

(02:15:18):
of mystified by me having all this methling Blue all around.
I was like, it's good, dude, but it's also good
to combine with chalk dot com. So heading over to
chalk dot com. He's from code J sixty life by
the way to get sixty percent off. But I'm gonna
have to cycle out of the methyling blue because if
you combine it with chalk, I think it kind of
like like the tongue catally still works, but the methling

(02:15:40):
blue is not really doing anything because I've been using
it every day for a month. So I'm going to
take a break from the methlene blue and then let it.
I've built up a tolerance, but I've never built up
a tolerance to chalk. It always works. Not dissing methling Blue,
I'm just saying your X space is busted. I can't
hear anything. Oh, that's because of spam. I was getting

(02:16:00):
spam calls. That was Pew Place five dollars, Midnight Light
five dollars. It was nice to meet you at the conference. Jay.
I'm local to Florida that was baptized in the Antiokin
church there. What is your take on bitcoin price long term, Well,
everybody got a reprieve in this dip, and everybody's freaking, oh,
it's going to zero. Well you could have had eighty

(02:16:24):
five four thousand dollars bitcoin the other day and now
it's back to ninety whatever. So nobody ever listens. They
always freak out it's going to zero now because it
went down ten percent. Well, welcome to bitcoin. There's always
these thirty percent dips. So uh no, it's not meth.
Are you serious? Methylene blue is not meth. It's fentanyl.

(02:16:49):
Just kidding. Long term, long term, bitcoin's going a million
dollars extangli of five dollars. If the average person is dumb,
then that means half of all people are dumber than that.
That is the dark truth. Brandon the Inquirer forty dollars,

(02:17:11):
Thank you so much. I used to be Pantecostal, but
I switched to the Orthodox boxers. It was a complete
game changer. Ortho boxers. Oh I get it, Pantecostal boxers.
I will never go back. Thank your brand and the Inquirer.
He's doing some word play. V Scott five dollars. Is
this the after party? Yes, welcome to the after party,

(02:17:34):
jan Ham one dollar. Thank you so much, Snago Beast
God bless Jay. I was wonder It was a wonderful
experience of the conference. Thank you so much. Snuggle's glad
to see you there. I had a question, is there
a way to get any of the presentations. I did
audio record mine, so members to my website will get

(02:17:57):
the audio of my talk. I don't know what anyone
else did, so if Father Vladimir recorded it, or if
Kotel recorded his, I have no idea. I did record
mine personally, though. Emilion shout out to Milion ten Bucks
got to meet him at the conference. Super cool. We
love our serbs. Shout out to our base serbs. Emilion says,

(02:18:21):
for ten dollars, do not forget to give a thumbs up.
Contemporary convening five dollars. This is my meager pentance, my lord,
I await the Dire brand wash cloths. Every pore in
the audience will receive one free branded dire wash cloth
so that you don't smell like hot dog water hush tones.

(02:18:43):
Oh we read that, nobody ten dollars. I go to
an OCA church. I used to be Mormon. I asked
my priest how he felt about masonry. He said, you
cannot be a Christian a mason. That is correct. It
sounds like a good priest. His answer made me stay
in my parish. Yeah. In fact, that's usually a pretty
good test to tell if your priest is kind of
based and if he, you know, kind of knows if

(02:19:06):
he's on the right side of things, like does he
push that mother trees as a saint? Does he say
that you can be skittles? You know? Does he like masonry?

Speaker 10 (02:19:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:19:15):
Those are easy like tests right there. Minor Sam Jay,
you stole me. You stole five dollars and call me
a poor Well, I'm just trying to do the Tom
Segura model of growing your channel. Kyle Norton ten dollars
hair grow. We got a Kenneth Copeland fan in the audience,
Penny Wits two dollars. I regretted googling Tom Sigura and

(02:19:37):
the pores. Now everybody's talking about that. I'm still not
exactly one hundred cent clear on how this all went down,
but I'm sure hush Tones is correct in the way
he decreed it. Jadam seven dollars, JTM, can you elaborate
on the ways as difficult for people as Showe's witness

(02:19:58):
to understand the Trinity. I think when you're indoctrinated from
your youth into a position that's very heavily based on
these either ores, it just becomes really difficult to think
outside of that box. So if you've always understood, you know,

(02:20:21):
these passages in the New Testament to be Unitarian, when
you start hearing challenges to that position, like your mind
just sort of immediately goes into defensive mode. So I
think probably for cults like Joe's Witnesses, it might be

(02:20:44):
more effective rather than to directly attack. In some cases,
it might be more effective to do like a what
people call the deprogramming method. And yeah, we're not just
poor as also Dirt Poor's Robins exactly. And I had
a really good conversation with Neil about this over Thanksgiving

(02:21:07):
to his house, because he's actually put a lot of
time into this. When it comes to certain people of
certain persuasions or locked into certain things that are not
interested in a debate or apologetic polemic interaction, in some
of those cases, it might be better for those people.

(02:21:28):
And you've got to have the wisdom to know what
kind of person you're dealing with right, So if you're
dealing with somebody who's not going to respond to polemics
or that kind of stuff, it might be better to
go the route of deprogramming. And there was a guy,
a psychologist dude that somebody mentioned on a stream a
while back, but I can't remember his name, and I
listened to his whole talk and he did I mean,

(02:21:55):
this is not Christian, but he has a pretty good
approach to deprogramming from colts. If you're in the chat
and you can remember this guy, let me know. I
can't remember what his name was, but it was like deprogramming,
and there was a specific cult that he.

Speaker 13 (02:22:20):
Is.

Speaker 5 (02:22:21):
It might be rit Ross, I can't remember. That guy,
might be a bit lib though I can't remember who
it was. No, it's doctor Stephen Hassan. That's it. And
again I'm not advocating this dude's world views or his worldview,

(02:22:44):
but that's who it was, because this dude is kind
of a shit lib, but he does have a good
approach to effective ways of dealing with people that are
really locked into colts. But I can't find the podcast

(02:23:05):
I listened to from him. It was about a specific
cult and anyway. I don't know, I've already forgotten what
it was. Oh it might be this right here. Yeah,
so he talks about scientology here. Oh, this is trying

(02:23:26):
to say MAGA is scientology, which technically MAGA could be
could like. I don't necessarily disagree, but usually when people
are anti MAGA, it's like for the worst reasons. It's
not for the right reasons, you know what I mean. Okay,
maybe this was the one I listened to here.

Speaker 18 (02:23:41):
Check us out at skipping dot com and if you
want to support the show that.

Speaker 5 (02:23:44):
One, well, way, I'm not supporting Michael Schrmer. He's obviously
a lunatic. But you could probably listen to this and
get some good practical advice on how to deprogrammed. I'm
not really good at this because this is not my method.
Or just ask Neil. Go ask Neil from Durple Robbins

(02:24:04):
about how you deprogram people, because he he's all about that.
But I do debates. I'm not a soft not that
Neil soft. Neil's actually pretty awesome at bathe but I'm saying,
like his approach to this is different and it works
for different people. So I'm not advocating Mika, Michael Shermer.

(02:24:26):
I'm just talking about the guest, the way that he
talks about deepest come on guys being retarded. Obviously, I'm
not pro Michael Shermer. That was ridiculous, But you know,
talking to dollars, what does the church Father set you buy?
I mean, I'm only aware of one. This is the
Philip Shaft set. I don't even know if it still exists.

(02:24:48):
Can you still buy the Shaft set? I think it
comes in paperback. Now, Chase Head a paperback version of it,
so is it on? You can get the Antie and

(02:25:13):
I seen Fathers in paperback. I don't know if this
is even exists. And here's Abe books. Here's the full
thirty eight volumes for three thousand dollars. Here's the full
set for two thousand dollars. But even better than this

(02:25:36):
is the Catholic University Set c UA. But I don't
know that you can buy this whole set anywhere. There's
probably probably five thousand dollars. Buy this whole thing.

Speaker 23 (02:25:48):
You gotta go to use bookstores in my people to
find one.

Speaker 5 (02:26:00):
That's probably right. I'll see.

Speaker 6 (02:26:07):
Is this it right here?

Speaker 5 (02:26:08):
Oh? Look at that? That's it. I think the CUA one.
My university had this and they got rid of it.
That's how stupid Murray State is. They get rid of
all their books, including this. They had this entire I
think they had the entire CUA press. This is it
right here. Now look at this lucky dude right here.

(02:26:31):
He's got the whole CUA press set right there. But
if you were to buy that, I mean that that'd
probably be ten thousand dollars. Who knows anyway, Kievan Russ,
what's up? You want to un mute bro? I'm you dude, okay, don't. Guys,

(02:27:13):
thank you so much. Cheez Click says for ten dollars.
Thank you for your work, Jay for your information. It's
poorer like Bill Gates says, Okay, I'll get those numbers down. Guys.
Remember that Essadar CALLI with three is out. You can
get signed copies in the shop at Jason Elysis I

(02:27:35):
have a a week. We got more super chutes of her.
Excuse me, I'm going to be on a podcast here
in a minute, so I'm gonna have to go. But
thank you guys in the chat for calling in. Appreciate
you guys very much. Kievan I don't know why you
didn't want to talk, but whatever, dude, Adam Johnson ten
dollars day. If the likeness of God is thiosis, what

(02:27:57):
is the image? Well, the Orthodox view is that image
and likeness. What's a Rob raid? Who's Rob Rob Noer?
What's what does that mean? People in the chat said,
this is a Rob raid? Is that Rob from Crucible?
Shout out to the Crucible, by the way, Thank you
guys for we always get those sweet raids from those dudes.

(02:28:20):
Appreciate that is the podcast live. I don't I don't
know how she does her podcast. So there's a a
new age psychoonat gal who converted Orthodoxy and she is
going to have me on her podcast. So we'll you'll know,

(02:28:42):
you'll know Rob.

Speaker 10 (02:28:43):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:28:45):
Every time I see Rob Noer, it makes me think
of that Australian pagan dude or New Zealand pagan dude
they called into debate, remember him now? So when I
see Rob Noer, I say, in my mind like him anyway.
So in the Orthodox view, image and likeness is likeness

(02:29:07):
is the deification of the theosis, the life of the
Holy Spirit. The image is the things that we possess
as faculties that are like God reasoning, et cetera, having
even a crystological image being made after the pattern of Christ.
Adam is made on the pattern of Christ. That's something

(02:29:29):
unique to the Orthodox view and the Eastern Fathers. And
what Adam lost in the fall is the life of
the Holy Spirit. So regaining the life of the Holy
Spirit is what that means. Buck the cowboy ten dollars.
Who's a false prophet in Revelation? Is he a gopher
for Antichrist? I thought this, said Golfer for Antichrist. Yes
he is. Arnold palmer Ani is the false prophet of

(02:29:53):
the book Relation a gopher? The false prophet in the
Book of Revelation, I think in the immediate text is
the fallen high priesthood of the Jews, and that's why
it's decked out, and it's described in the imagery of
an apostate orror, the way that the prophets always described
the apostate high priesthood in Jerusalem. That's the immediate seventy

(02:30:17):
eight d context of the Book Revelation. However, at the
end of the world there will be some apostate version
of that, which could be an apostate church so the
church is in mass apostasy. That's my take on the
false prophet. So it could be a papacy figure, it
could be a judaized papacy. It could be something like that.

(02:30:40):
Let's talk gouy five dollars when you were in RCA.
I know we did that. Excuse me. M du Jenovich says,
for ten dollars, I'm a poor It's okay, dude. The way,
that's just jokes for the people. We make these jokes,
and people are won't be able to take it. They'll be, oh,
look at this guy. He hates people. He's still weird.
It's just jokes man. Hopefully this audience is high Kai.

(02:31:04):
I think our audience is high IQ enough to like,
you know, to wash their butts, you.

Speaker 6 (02:31:11):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:31:15):
We got Nelly back, Nelly the rapper. He's putting his
clothes on. Before he was, it's getting on here, take
off all your clothes. Nelly's converted. He's modest. Now he's
putting on all his clothes. He says, for twenty five dollars,
where do I buy your tracks? Funko, Pop, pay, Piggy,
et cetera. I haven't put him up to buy yet,
but maybe I should. They're just on my channel, so

(02:31:35):
you can you can maybe may. I don't know how
uh Spotify works. I don't know how you like, how
do you put your music as just music? Because I
know the podcast is on there, but I don't know
how to put music up. Sam five dollars. My wife
and I are inquirers. She's Hebrew Roots, but she wants

(02:31:59):
to debate Orthodox see with me. Here's my script and
he uh, well, I appreciate the Google doc there, but
I don't bro. I don't have time to read an
entire Google doc on that. What I would say is
get your wife to watch the excellent documentary at Orthodox
Shahta Christian Worsman, the Old Tesment. This is one of

(02:32:26):
the best things for the sort of Judaized Hebrew Roots
Messianic stuff. So there you go, because it shows that
the real Hebrew Roots, the real Messianic Judaism, is Orthodox Christianity,
the real one, not the schismatic Judaizing stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:32:49):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:32:50):
Amber Whiskey Sunshine to dollars. Thank you for the schooling.
You're welcome, Amber Whiskey Sunshine. That's a name right there.
Ortho Anglo Croat thirty dollars. Jay, your mam is so
fat that she sat on trad cat and skittles popped out.

(02:33:12):
It doesn't make sense and that's why I like it.
Fin again three dollars, Thank you dog. Jmel fifteen dollars.
I tried to Google putting Google maps a church that
is not compromised, and the only Protestant churches came up.
Google is inverted. Yeah, I don't think Google's going to
give you like bazed and trad churches by a web
by searching like that. Keevan Russ says, sorry, my spaces

(02:33:37):
audio didn't work. Keep it real, caying, I appreciate that
all good cheese clicked. Two dollars, poor poor, Okay, the
poors Kevin Rhuys five dollars. Is commemorating Leo as a
bishop of the church and prior to ep at finar

(02:33:57):
at redline in your book. Uh yeah, I would say
commemorating the pope is their red line. JP pilt A,
five dollars. Tomson Gura's poorest thing is a long running bit.
His audience just happens to be vicious djons and they
take everything badly. You have no need to worry, Uh,

(02:34:24):
appreciate that. Yeah, I'm not. I figured it was like
probably something that people misunderstood, but then again, I mean
I could also see somebody doubling down, you know what
I mean. Thank you guys so much. Everybody, have a
good night.

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