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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Swedish. He was in our omni War symposium and he
did an incredible presentation on the spiritual elements of technocracy.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh nice, Okay, So Courtney's back everybody, and what we're
gonna do is we're gonna have the first hour today
talking with her, highlighting her new book, and then I'm
going to transition into the rest of what we're going
to talk about in today's live streams. So we should
get a pretty good audience today if you would hit,
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had it pined and it's not penned anymore. But you
can also support through YouTube. If you want to leave
a YouTube super chat you can as well, but preferably
stream Labs because they don't take a cut and YouTube does,
and we don't want to pay the technocrafts. We don't
want to pay Jeffrey Bezas. But Courtney, your book is
on Amazon. I've got it linked. Is there a different

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place that you want people to get it like I do?
Or do you are you? Is it just Amazon? Where
do we get the book?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Amazon is a great place to leave a five star review.
If we do have a paperback and a kindle option,
you can also leave a five star review on Goodreads.
But we have some options for people who would like
to avoid Amazon, and that is Technocracy dot News at
the store, and this is the best place to get
multiple copies because you'll get a great discount of you

(01:23):
buy two or more. And then we also have books
Dot Buy Forward slash Patrick Wood and this is a
particular it's a great place for everybody, but it's a
particularly great place for people who are not in the
United States who want to avoid the exorbitant shipping fees
and the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So yeah, exactly. I mean, Jamie was taking a load
of my books the other day to ship and the
post office sid basically we can't even send anything to Canada.
So anybody ordering from Canada the mailing yeah, it's on PAW.
So don't worry. You will get your Canadian books eventually, hopefully,

(02:04):
but you can blame your socialist prime minister, your fabian
socialist elites that run your countries. Now, Courtney is fast
becoming i think one of the top tier go to
people for understanding technocracy where they're going, what the overall
game plan is she puts so much time and effort

(02:25):
into really going hardcore on this stuff. So I'm looking
forward to this book. I'm going to purchase it. And
it's a cautionary tail, you said, because I know from
reading you know, Patrick Wood over the years and going back,
you know, reading his Technocracy trilogy back in the day,
and I'm glad that you linked up to make this
book with him. Let's before we get into the specifics,

(02:48):
how did this come about? And then what's the overall
sort of approach that you guys took in this book.
Sometimes co author books I would think are difficult, but
maybe it wasn't difficult.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It was actually super like smooth. This was a fantastic collaboration.
We gave each other deadlines and yeah, we worked really
really well together. Yeah. I mean, I've known him for
several years now and I've been following his work and
I've had him on my show, and then I had

(03:23):
done a we started like a round table technology round
table with Aaron Day and Craig Wenklwick's and he asked
me to host the Omnimore Symposium and through a bunch
of discussions, he had been planning to write another book
and Yeah, he asked me if I would want to

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collaborate with him, and I was absolutely. I didn't really
think much about it. I was super excited, and so yeah,
we started the whole He really wanted this to be
a very short book. This was actually longer and still
a really short book. A lot of it is the footnotes.
We didn't do footnotes. We just did references because we
didn't want to distract the readers. So there's Chicago style references.

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But actually that takes a lot of the book. So
it is actually still a very short book, but not
nearly assured as he wanted. His whole thought process is
that he wanted to get into the hands of as
many people as possible, and unfortunately people don't really read
tomes anymore today, and tome seems to be like two
hundred and fifty page. It's not really even a tome,
you know, that's just the tragedies of our time. So yeah,

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so he wanted so each it's written, you know, like
each chapter could be is a standalone essay. But of
course there's a central theme. And really the concept is that,
you know, the premise of Maga Make America Great Again
is not something I object to. I mean, that sounds great.
I'm all on board with make America great again. I'm
all on board with MAHA, make America healthy again. Who

(04:57):
argues with that? I think, you know, getting rid of
oils and all the fake food and the big pharma push.
That's a great ma BA is not as exciting to me,
which is make America Biotech accelerate, and so he actually
says accelerate in the name, in the acronym. So essentially

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our thesis is that people who were voting for and
who were caught up in this MAHA movement were thinking
they were going to get some sort of a restoration,
something that would bring us closer to American founding principles
and get away from the direction that we've been heading
towards this socialist, globalist and really technocratic is the real

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end goal, at least in my opinion. And instead, what
they did was kind of harness that energy and use
it to instead of reform Washington DC and restore some
power to we the people, they gave it all to
Silicon Valley. And that's really not what most people thought

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they were voting for. So we wanted people to we
say it's a cautionary tale because not so much that
it's a fictional kind of a story, but more that
a lot of people don't know the regulatory infrastructure that
is being implemented, and they don't know the technologies that
are being empowered currently, and so we wanted people to

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be aware of that, because you can't defeat a threat
that you don't know exist. And you know, the hope
is that in the process of getting this information out
to people, maybe people will start to push back because
a lot of them, I think a lot, especially the
Maha crowd, are very busy cheering, right they think they've won.
Some people have kind of a deification of Trump and

(06:49):
think he's their savior, you can do no wrong. I
think the q noon movement was partly to blame for that.
Not that everybody who's Maha is q you know, not
saying that, but you know, there is definitely that kind
of sentiment. It's as I don't need to tell you
or your audience, but sometimes it gets a little like
a football, you know, team sports, and they think their

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team is one and they don't need to do anything.
They can just sit back, trust the plan, and we
wanted to let really them know I mean, it's for everybody,
and not even just Americans, because actually what you really
see is this interesting dialectic. There are so many dialectics.
But you know, we were told that we were going
to fight the globalists, right, That's what Trump kept saying,
We're going to fight the globalist And what he really

(07:32):
seemed to mean by that, if you read his One
Big Beautiful Bill and his AI Action Plan, was yeah,
We're we're going to fight the globalists at least, you know, ostensibly,
but we're going to build the stack that will create
the infrastructure and all the technology that the globalists will
use and will run the technique from America. So essentially
we will be the controlling global empire. And yeah, I

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don't think that's what people thought they were voting for either.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I like the description of the book says that
people thought, oh, you know, we won the Cold War, communism, socialism,
you know, in the Second World War, fascism, those were
all defeated. But really what was reintroduced, as the description says,
in nineteen seventy three, the Trilateral Commission announced a new
international Economic order which has basically the technate or the technocracy,

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as you said, as it's underlying ideology, and the book
says the dark Enlightenment then of people like Nick Land
and Curtis Jarvin has this idea of returning us to
a monarchy. And I want to be clear, nothing to
do really with Christianity in my view, or orthodox Christianity,
but perhaps some synthetic or simulated or technocratic version of

(08:47):
Christianity or something. You know, we've seen Peter Teele recently
talking about supposed Christianity lectures or I'm not exactly sure
what he thinks Christianity is, but it comes from these
sort of difficult Yeah, they sort of allegorical, you know,
Jordan Peterson's style presentations of Renee Gerard's theology. So you

(09:09):
say that the description says tokenization is flipping us into
an asset based economic system, where as Klaus noted, you
were old nutting on your or be hoppy. So AI
is rolling out, We know that there is this massive
push that Trump talked about with Larry Ellison and others
to have this gigantic, you know, future zillion dollar AI

(09:31):
infrastructure that they're going to roll out. And this is
the problem is that people think, well, because Trump has
some good ideas, like maybe he's going to christianize the technocracy.
So why don't you start by telling us what's the
problem with the idea that, Well, why can't we just
have a Christian version of technocracy. I mean, I'm going

(09:53):
to answer with my my critiques, but I want to
hear what you and Patrick would think is the problem
with this idea.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, we do have a whole chapter in the book
on the rise of state religion and this kind this
movement that is co opting. I call it Christianese, so
they speak in Christian sounding language, but it's not biblically
rooted at all. And there are a couple of different
factions of this. They're not all the same, but they're

(10:22):
you know, they're steering towards the same place. They have
the shared telus, and they're oftentimes working hand in hand.
You know, they scratch each other's back when it's conducive
to their end goals. But we've got like the Gnar movement,
which is the new Apostolic of Reformation, and they believe
in the Seven Mountain mandates. And this is really influential

(10:44):
on the Trump administration. This is actually a huge part
I think of what's going on with the turning point.
I think it was always the plan, but I certainly
think now that's in full force. And some of them
even say that Charlie was an apostle.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh interesting that. Now. I don't mean to cut you off,
but could you help me understand what this is new
to me? What is the seven Mountain mandate? What is that?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
So the seven Mountain mandates? Is this idea that they
believe that there are the seven pillars of society and
I'm probably not going to remember all of them, but
you know, it's it's like the uh, you know, the
Saint the Long March through the institutions. It is the
same kind of idea, like the legal, education, media, entertainment, sol.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Areas of society. Basically that's the mountains.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, so they believe that they need to take over
all those areas and then they will bring about, uh,
the Antichrist they can bring. Yeah, it's all about everything.
Is it's all the same language about the end times
and the Antichrist that Teal talks about.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
What Well, surely they're not they're not going to openly
say they're bringing about Antichrist. What what do you mean?
Like so that this is like evangelical dominion mandate theologies
that you're.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Saying, that's what it is. Yeah, it's exactly. So they
believe they need to, you know, have dominion over all
of these spears and so they can bring Heaven on earth. Right,
that's their whole premise. But yeah, Peter Thiel actually says
that in his acts seventeen lectures. They were I think
there were four lectures. They were each two hours long.

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But the main takeaway is that anybody who puts any
restraints on AI is the Antichrist. That's the Antichrist.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I guess try so that's so the point of
his lectures was actually that putting restraint on AI is
somehow Antichrist. But what did you get this? Like how
does he come to I mean, I don't believe that,
but I'm saying, like, how could you even argue that?
Like how did he come to that conclusion? Like what's

(12:52):
what is the line of argument there? I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
So it's an Antichrist and armagain, and he thinks that
the other alternative is that we're going to have this globalization,
you know, it's going to be like the Greta Therm.
Thunberg is like the Antichrist, the other Antichrist. You know
she's going to be I remember.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Him saying that. Oh so, so he's saying, we all,
we've all got a race to control AI, and if
we don't get a Christian version of it, they will
win and it will be a collectivist greta AI. Is
that what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
He doesn't say that's going to be a I Greta
because he says that they're against AI, which is actually
not true.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
It doesn't even oh interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
It doesn't make sense because if you actually look at
what the environmentalists are doing, they're advancing AI also green.
But the difference is they're much more clever with their marketing.
They're a little bit more deceptive. So you know this
is I just put out an article on Homo auto
catalyticus versus Homo on more.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I've got this, I've got this pulled up.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, and they love to make up their online when
you know, just for people reading things that I know
you and your audience are fromamiliar but like it's not
that complicated. They just it's like reading Heidegger. I know
he wrote in German. We're reading the translation, but he
made up all of his own words to make things
sound way more complied.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, this is a classic trick of philosophers, especially ones
that get really kind of big and full of themselves.
You create neologisms because then it sounds very you know, sophisticated,
and oh you don't understand you know Heidegger's sense of
dosai and you know what I mean, Like you got it,
So you have to go learn this new language almost,

(14:31):
But that's a kind of that's a classic philosophical sort
of dork dork trick.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yes, you know, as Netschi said, they muddy the waters
to make it it seem deep. I think he was
projecting there, Yeah, exactly. It's also a great distraction. You're
so busy trying to learn this new language that you
you're not actually confronting the material. I just just say
that because like homo more and Homo auto catalytica sounds
very fancy, but really that both of them are paths

(15:02):
towards a posthumanism, not even transhumanism, it's posthumanism, and Nick
Land really embraced He's the one who came up with
Homo autocatalygicus, which he actually didn't come up with. It
was John h. Campbell, who is a chemist. It's his
it's like a concept from chemistry, but he adopted this
into machine uh technology and AI and recursive type of

(15:25):
machine processes. But anyway, I bring it up just because
the Homo amore it comes out of David Temple, and
these are the you know, environmentalists, they're the Gaya worshippers.
And David Temple is a pseudonym for Zach Stein, who
was just inducted to the Club of Rome last year.
Daniel Schmockenberger, who I've talked to you about before. He's

(15:47):
a Game B proponent.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
He's also a co he's like a co founder of
what was Neurowhacker Collective. It's now called Quality of Life, right,
and then the Consilience Project also uh. And then of
course Kenneth Wilbur who I'm sure you're familiar with integral
theory and all of that. But anyway, they make up
David Temple, and I always get a kick out of
it because the reason they picked David Temple was because

(16:10):
they didn't want it to be egoistic. And meanwhile, they
have this whole concept of anthroontology where they literally rewrite
the story of the universe and they think they become
they co create with God. But that's not heuboristic at all,
you know, Thank goodness, they decided to have one pseudonym,
so they you know, obliviate, obliterate any ego. But anyway,
in that they're very they're much more deceptive. They talk

(16:34):
about how, you know, we have to be very cautious
about AI, we have to be very cautious about techno
feudal system. But what are they doing. They're actually fomenting it.
They're creating it, and they're just doing it under the
guise of love and light and you know, creating you know,
collective intelligence that's all geared towards it's a nousphere. But

(16:55):
it's a love, a radical love affair with the universe.
So it sounds very poetic and beautiful. Whereas the darken
Lightment they're much more so.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's just a Kuomer Gooner universe versus like Terminator universe.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yes, exactly so. But the Dark n Lightment they're you know,
pretty blunt, they let you know. And that's so that's
what I see happening really with like Trump and uh,
you know, they're the they claim that the and and
what Peter Chiel's talking about, like so that the Greta
Thunberg isn't really against technocracy, they just claim that they are.

(17:31):
They're much more you know, cloaked about it. So yeah,
but that's what he's saying. He's saying that anybody puts
any restraints, that that's the anti crisis, the curtailing of AI.
Because remember he says that the biggest problem we face
today is that since the seventies we've been in a
time of stagnation, and so this lack of progress is

(17:52):
our big problem. This is, you know, the devastation of
humanity is the stagnation. And so we can't restrain AI
because now we're just you know, accentuating this stagnation. And
so that that's really the Antichrist that we need to
worry about. And it looks like, you know, there is
that whole constances. Comby would always tell me that Trump

(18:13):
was the Antichrist, and you know, at the time, I
kind of was like, okay, you know, she sent me
home with ten books and she said, you said, required reading.
They're all on Trump being the Antichrist. So when you're done,
I've got ten more for you. On Trump being the Antichrist,
and my husband and I kind of looked at each
other like, you know, kind of chuckled a little bit.
And we heard him talk recently about you know, the

(18:35):
Middle East, and he keeps talking about peace. I mean,
not that he's not not that he's not fomenting war,
but you know, keeps saying peace and all this rhetoric.
And we looked at each other like, maybe maybe he
is the Antichrist. I don't know. I am not saying
he is, but I do think that he's trying to
prove that he's not by aligning with Peter Teel and
he's ensuring that there is no restraint of artificial intelligence.

(18:59):
And that's what his AI Action Plan is all about.
That's what the One Big Beautiful Bill is all about.
And I'm not alive with Musk, but he's right that
it is. You know, it's a monstrosity. It's also what
take Cruz Center ten Cruz I wrote an article about
this to his sandbox. Act is just to bolster and
enhance the deregulation of the AI Action Plan.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I noticed too. In the description of the book,
it mentions the tokenization aspect. This is fascinating too from
a crypto perspective, because you know, I follow crypto pretty
pretty closely and intently, and I keep up with all
the different niches and within the crypto world, one of
the rising emerging markets is rw a's which is real

(19:43):
real world assets, and so they're trying to with various
blockchains and networks, tokenize all of reality and they want
to see for example, Solana wants to corner the market
on tokenizing stock. Ripples supposed to tokenize and transform the

(20:05):
Swift payment network. I don't think I think especially Ripples
obviously like a centralized scam in my view, but I
think there is a danger in this, the potentiality of
this because if you remember, in the third section of
Klaus's book Fourth and Nosed Revolution, he actually discusses this
the tokenization of everything and everything through the Internet of
Things then being tracked and trade. So tokenization is a

(20:28):
type of a scam where everything will be tracked and
traced under the guise of emerging markets and all this stuff.
So I think a lot of and even people in
the last week have been discussing the possibility that AI
actually might be a giant bubble, much like the dot
Com bubble was an early on bubble, not that there
won't be you know, real technocratic challenges and companies and

(20:51):
all this, But I think Sam Altman was like begging
for money because there's projected they have these projects plans
of like trillions of dollars of what they're going to do,
but they actually only have a few billion dollars like
actually in the company. So it's like people are starting
to think that AI might be a bubble. And just

(21:11):
like you know, the dot com when it popped, it's
not that the Internet was wrong or bad or it's
like it's not a failed venture. It's just that there's
a giant explosive narrative that builds around the markets, but
the tech and the people are not yet ready for
where it's at, so then that bubble pops. So even
if the AI have bubble pops, that doesn't mean like,

(21:33):
oh a I isn't real, it's not a real threat.
It just means that there's a giant scam market built
around it, and then they will continue forward in the
next twenty years with moving it towards whatever they're trying
to make it into, which is the global brain, which
is all the transhumanist stuff. So long story short is
that I don't believe that bitcoin is not part of
that idea of tokenizing all of reality and some tracking

(21:55):
tracing network. So I'm still a big proponent of a
bitcoin as a real inmate currency of the future. But
the other challenges, the other networks and blockchains are explicitly
centralized ideas about tracking and tracing real world assets. And
if you look up like various crypto markets, you can

(22:17):
if you go to coin market cap, you can check
under the different niches. One of them is RWA and
that's exactly what we're talking about. What's the danger with
tokenizing all areas of life?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
So there's a lot of danger. As you said, it
can be track, trace, surveiled, programmed, pre programmed. I don't know.
I don't want to say too much on here, but
you know, if you're familiar with biodigital convergence, if you've
seen black mirror, there is an article how people can
look it up. It's you know, several years old now
from a University of Massachusetts Amherst, and they talk about,

(22:53):
you know, harnessing using humans essentially like an antenna with
six G so people can look into that research. I
won't expect on that too much for here. But so
when you get into that kind of stuff, I mean
that's talking about literally remote control interface completely programming humans.
But beyond that, you don't even need that to get

(23:15):
to where it could be very concerning, and you have
a complete social credits system. You know, they talk about
the UBI universal basic income, but of course it won't
be that. It'll be Elon Musk is saying it's going
to be a higher basic income, which is that that's
you know, not going to be the case. Maybe maybe
for certain people that that is not going to be
the case. What it is going to be is a

(23:37):
conditionally based income, which is essentially social credit. But you
hear people like Larry Fink, right, who have been calling
the shots for every other words.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
You said the word wigger, you are docked this week's
paycheck because you don't you don't get your your UBI
credits because the refrigerator heard you say wigger.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes exactly, yeah, that's right. You can't do that. And
the refrigerator is watching they already the ones with the
big screens in the front, and that no.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
They're actually like I saw a refrigerator that was Uh,
they're already like planning out like it will track the
groceries are that are missing and then go ahead and
order you like what's missing in the refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, and I think this is just stepping stone to
like carbon emission, you know, carbon usage and credits and
that sort of thing, which is straight out of Technocracy inc. Right,
you know they called it energy credits. I actually got
a copy of the Technocracy study course.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, I was crated about it. It was like the
one copy I could find and it wasn't crazy expensive.
So but yeah, so they with the tokenization. So Larry Fink,
who has been calling the shots for a really long time,
but now he's officially the co chair of the World
Economic Forum, So if anybody had any.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Blackrock, now World Economic for him.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Exactly exactly, And he has written extensively about tokenization. I mean,
Bison talks about it a lot too, and they almost
look like they're salivating. They're like dogs about to be fed.
I mean when they talk about this sort of thing,
they're so excited. And if you remember when they were
trying to I was screaming about this last year when

(25:23):
they were trying to put a new category up on
the New York Stock Exchange, the natural asset Companies. Well yeah, yeah, yeah,
so we fortunately enough people sent in comments and they
actually did rescind the proposal. That does not mean that
this fight is over, and you know, they just keep rebranding.

(25:43):
They march forward. It's actually called the Sustains Act here
in the United States. Now, I mean they're definitely still
marching ahead. They think they're going to make upwards of
five hundred quadrillion dollars on this big scam. So I
don't think they're leaving that on the table. I don't
know how you even quantify five hundred quadrillion dollars like
a made up number at that point, but it's a
similar kind of idea. They're not just talking about token ideas.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well. Maybe if they destroy the dollar through money printing
and one dollar ends up being the equivalent of a
quadrillion dollars because of the you know, like like when
the Ugondan currency or the Zimbabwe currency collapses, like a
you know, loaf of bread costs a billion Zimbabwe dollars,
maybe that's how they get to five hundred quadrillion, which

(26:26):
ends up being like I don't know, like five million
or five billion in today's I'm being silly, but you
get the point.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm saying, Yeah, in that case maybe, but they're not
letting it go. They they think they're going to be
you know, very very wealthy off and they'll have control
over all the earth resources. Would use the plan, right,
Biden called dat America the Beautiful, which is really just
the thirty by thirty land grab. But that doesn't sound great,
so they have to rename it. But that's only a

(26:51):
stepping stone to the half Earth agenda, which EO. Wilson
wrote the book on, right, So that's the idea that
half of the earth lands and waters are going to
be uninhabitable and untouched.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
In fact, I'm glad you mentioned that because I have
one of his books and I've been meaning to get
to that in the Global Elite book series and I
just haven't done it yet because we got so kind
of distracted with changing image as a man. And you know,
al Alex was so like coming come sidio, talk talk
about change names. Come down it right now, bring the book.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I believe that he wasn't familiar with it.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I think that so I think that he forgot that
because people in the comments were saying, Alex, you mentioned
this book in the past, so like, I think you
just didn't remember which text this was because it's so hard.
I mean, you can get everybody can get the PDF,
but it's just really hard to get a hold of
that book. Now you mentioned Black Mirror, and I want
to just really quickly plug that. Guess what Esoteric Hollywood

(27:46):
three has an entire forty page section I think of
me covering every episode of the first three seasons. So
if you are interested in uh perdive dystopian literature, of
course Courtney's book that's just out in the show description
and in the chat also available at Technology News Patrick's website.

(28:11):
It deals with dystopian warnings, but I covered it, as
you guys know from the fiction film perspective. So I
did cover all of the pretty wild elements in Black Mirror,
which I think we're going on almost almost maybe ten
years from when Black Mirror first came out. I think
season one was really good and they kind of get
progressively worse as the seasons go on. But you guys

(28:32):
will remember there is that very predictive episode where I
want to say, is it white Bear or be right
back now. It's White Bear, I think where you're I
can't remember the name of the episode, but it's the
one where the guy has to like ride the exercise
bike to bikes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's like tokenization of everything.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's yeah exactly, That's exactly the one I was thinking of, exactly,
And they have studies on that. They say it's not
very efficient right now, but they do have studies empowering
and cryptomning.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah. So also remember I forgot. There's also that really
good episode in I think season three with Ron Howard's
daughter bry Styles Howard, where she's controlled by everybody's controlled
by social media, and if you eventually have you seen
that one?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't think I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh this is one of the best. You got to
watch this one. It's actually as good as the first
season episodes, even though it's not really the season three
is not that great. But Nosedive is a dystopian suburbia
controlled by social media. So basically, your your class in
society is determined by your social credit score, and if
you go against society, not only do you eventually get

(29:55):
a shadow band in reality, you can actually be put
in like prison so they've imprisoned people for their Facebook
posts and that kind of stuff, So that one's really good,
But hey, exactly right. People in the in the UK
are literally being taken to prison for criticizing Islamic invasion,
criticizing Fabian socialism. So notice the pattern here, guys. And

(30:18):
this is something that Courtney has talked about for a
long time too. You know, the Fabian social technocratic model
is absolutely real, UK, Australia, Canada, they're all part of
that UK, British Imperial Commonwealth which is now openly Fabian socialist.
It's not accidental that they're the ones that are imprisoning

(30:40):
you for your you know, Facebook posts or whatever. That's
the model for the future, yes.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
And it's also that model for that like the Fabian
social ethics. So in that article that I wrote on
the Homo more and the Homo Auto categlyticas I talk
about how the how more erotic humanists are basically using
that Fabian socialist ethics blueprint to kind of you know,

(31:08):
soft power influence to condition you into their ethics. You know,
not not that we don't want morality and ethics, but
it's who's deciding that ethics it's like the Ben Gertzel.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, it's Ben Gertzel's it. We're all just mere determined
to molecules me and we're all just molecules determined. But
really like Ben Girtzel is like the ultimate sort of
you know, DMT brow transhumanist materialist guy. And also Klaus's
later book, the one I think it was not Industrial Revolution,

(31:40):
but the one about the Great Reset. Like that book
he talks about we knew we need a new needs,
a new covenant, a new ethic, and the new covenant,
the new ethic, which is weird because it's like biblical
terminology again, is actually this technocratic ethic, this uh, you know,
scarce resources, austerity, green agenda.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yes, And so EO. Will Wilson is a huge influence
on I mean on the game be Wiki. It's like EO.
Wilson over and over again. They're really influenced by him.
And of course this is uh he's an evolutionary biologist,
a lot of them are, and it's all predicated on Malthusianism.
So yeah, so the tokenization is really concerning because a

(32:25):
lot of people will argue, well, we're kind of already
in a tracked you know, surveilled to some extent programmed
monetary system, which to some extent is true. I don't
deny that. Certainly with the credit cards, I mean MasterCard
and Visa both have like the carbon tracking. You know,
MasterCard was the first to do their Black card where

(32:47):
you can opt in and get your you know, carbon
ratings and uh so you know, you can opt into
your own tyranny if that's your thing. But so we
have that to some extent. But that difference with the
tokenization is one like the national asset companies, that's the resources,
like tangible resources, but they want that, they want to

(33:08):
tokenize and commodify. But now they're talking about it's not
just economics, and like tangible assets, they want to tokenize everything.
So like the healthcare system, the education system, I mean,
everything will be tokenized. And this means like as you said,
you know, you'll own nothing and be happy. I'm not
so sure about the be happy part unless we come
to love our servitude. In Huxley's Brave New World exactly.

(33:30):
You know, if we all take our soma, maybe we'll
be happy about it, but we are going to be
owning nothing. And while we're very close to that, right, now,
I mean if you use real estate, it's a really
good tangible example for people. If you think about real estate.
In this country, we pay property taxes, so you essentially
lease you your property from the government, don't really own it,

(33:50):
which is already like to so yeah, like if you
default on it, you know, they seize your property. But
and you know, if you have a mortgage, obviously you
know that the death trap and you're you're paying into it.
But here's the thing, you still have equity. And so
like most of this country is predicated on small business,
and what do a lot of people use just start

(34:11):
a small business. They leverage the equity from their home
to start these businesses. When you go to a tokenized economy,
now that's not saying tokenization has to work this way,
but this is what they're presenting is where the banks
are going to own the assets, black rocks going to
own the assets. You're not going to own the assets.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Because this is the circular economy where you rent your
you know everything, You're going to rent your underwear, share
it between the neighborhood. You. I mean, this is I mean,
I understand people thought, oh, uber is a great idea,
but it's that was actually preparing the way for you
don't need a car. There's no reason for you to
have a car. The only people who will have cars,

(34:49):
as Harmon I think wrote in that nineteen eighty one
or two millennium paper, it's like, no, there will be
essential and non essential workers, and the only people who
need cars will be essential work.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yep. That's it's totally conditioning. And so when you think
about that, then people can't they don't have equity, they
can't use that as leverage to start a business. I mean,
that's I think a really concrete way to think about
what this shift does where people really you don't own anything,

(35:22):
you have no assets, and they have complete control. And
when you think about the biodigital convergence aspect of it,
I mean, to me, that's I mean, that's just transhumanism.
It's and technocracy all wrapped in a very dystopian mix.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah. I think this is the biggest one of the
biggest you know, failures with the promises of Trump was that,
like you said, fighting globalization, and then it's like just
seems to be fully on board with all the technocratic stuff.
And you know, when he was talking at the Bitcoin conference,
it was like it was a lot of stuff that
sounded good.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Right, Yeah, never sar big, don't sell you a bitcoin.
Probably never showed you a bitcoin. Bright future, gonna be
a wonderful future. And then it's like, now we're going
to tokenize all of reality.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Now we're gonna have AI tracking tracing everything. So, I mean,
the there's many places to criticize Trump, this is definitely,
I think one of them. And it's funny that you
mentioned this model of like they own everything. If you
go back maybe fifteen years, John Perkins wrote that book

(36:31):
Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and he talked about how
his job as part of a corporate CIA vulture was
to go in and kind of prepare third world countries
for the neoliberals sort of takeover where the corporations come
in and they basically own everything. And this is like
a global version of that. So what the CIA and

(36:52):
the corporations would do back then that John Perkins wrote
about is like this now global black rock world economic
forum land where all reality, all assets, all water is
tokenized and measured and controlled. That's what Klaus wrote about
in the third section of Fourth and Notional Revolution. There's
a movie I recommend everybody watch. It's pretty good. I

(37:13):
had not seen it for some reason. I didn't even
know about it. But Owen Wilson is in a twenty
twelve movie with Pierce Brosnan, and it's about Owen Wilson
moving to I think it's Thailand or some country in
Southeast Asia, and he gets there under the guise of
being a corporate just engineer, but it turns out his

(37:33):
corporation is actually trying to buy the water for like
an entire region, so they're going to control all the water,
and there's a political revolution because the people are mad
at the corporation for it. Long story short, he meets
with Pierce Brosnan this in the midst of all this
chaos and political revolution, and Pierce Brosen is British Intelligence
is He says, basically, my job is to be a

(37:56):
corporate economic vulture. We come in, we prepare the country
for political revolution so that the corporation can come in
and basically own the water. So point being, when you
see Momdani elected in New York, when you see revolutions,
color revolutions, when you see Fabian socialism in the UK
and in Canada, this is not actually for socialism in

(38:20):
the long term. It is technocracy in the long term,
so that Black Rock and all of the world economic
form goobers can own everything and then let you rent it.
Socialism is the necessary pathway to get to that final stage.
And it is not going to be like Courtney said,
where you're actually owning nothing of being happy. It's slavery.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
It's slavery. It's total slavery, and of the most insidious
and pernicious kind. You know. I mean, I don't want
to undermine the atrocities of communism and fascism. They're terrible,
but they're nothing compared to technocracy. And I don't think
people can even conceee eve of how dystopian technocracy really is.

(39:03):
They haven't experienced it. You know, Trump just did the
anti Communism Week it's this week, and I read I
tweeted it out. I was like, good, maybe next week
we'll do anti technocracy Week. I won't hold my breath
and then I read unto that and I said, the
Cold War call they want their playbook back.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
But yeah, exactly, I mean, have you seen that. It's
a great German film. It's a kind of an independent film.
It's called the laband and in the Lives of Others.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Oh, such a good film.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
And if you watch it and pay attention and you
think about I think you and I have even talked
about this, so forgive me for repeating myself, but you know,
you're watching this eighties era Cold War thing play out
in East Germany, and you know the guy has eventually
kind of a change of conscience, the sort of the
Stasi guy who's tracking and tracing and spying on these

(39:55):
people with all this old you know, eighties era Soviet technology,
easterim and tech low tech stuff, and then he realizes
like his whole his whole job is to basically just
make people miserable, and he's miserable, and then he kind
of begins to question at the end, and he ends up, well,
I'm not gonna spoil the movie if you've never seen,
it's really good. But that is that is a microcosm

(40:19):
the Stasi approach to what you actually get in terms
of the technocratic black rock clouds future. Like that's a
global version of this microcosm of the easterm and Stasi
surveilling and controlling and tracking and tracing. This this couple
in the movie so people need to really understand that

(40:41):
that's the real long term danger here is going into
that kind of a world and people that have kids,
especially like you want your kids to grow up in
a world where the words that you say are going
to the refrigerator is going to find you for what
you say is just insane.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's insane. It's Yeah, that was a really great movie.
I love that movie. I was going to say about
the water. I can't remember if I saw that movie,
but it's basically what Nestleie did right, And I feel
like Nestleie was.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Kind of like a yeah, they probably were basing that movie,
yeah on like what corporate plans were going to be.
And if you if you saw the second Daniel Craig
Bond film, Quantum of Solis, is the same plot where
the Specter corporate elites are trying to take over the
water in Tanzania. There's some some weird region where they

(41:35):
discovered like underwater walk aquifers, and they basically just want
to control the entire country for the water. They think
Originally they think it's over oil, and then you know
there's like this, well wait a minute, there's no oil here.
Well and then the villain says, don't you understand the
Mista Bund. You know, we work with the fascists, we
work with the communists, we work with whoever so that

(41:55):
we can contain you know. It's basically what Klaus would say, right,
It's like they don't care about the ideology. It's about
control at the end of the day and owning the
natural resources in total.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, that's the that's the whole plan. And that was
the Trilateral Commission's agenda to create the new economic international
world order. And a lot of them were technocrats, so
it means, yeah, we're just seeing the advancement of that now.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
All right, Well, we've got a few super chats and uh, guys,
if you want to ask Courtney any questions, She's written
some really great, really in depth articles getting deep into Teal,
nick Land, all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And it's funny because Jamie was reading through the nick
Land book and she's asking me all these philosophical questions
because it's kind of her first philosophy book, and uh,
it's it's a it's a bit of reverse because I've
not read this book. Jamie's reading a philosophy book that
I haven't read. So we're going to do a podcast
where Jamie's read the philosophy and I haven't, and then
we're we're going to see how that information or how

(42:58):
that podcast transpires by if you want to ask her
Courtney a question. I put Courtney Substack in the chat.
What's up? What are we gonna say?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh? I was just saying that have fun. That'll be awesome.
I look forward to watching that.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Maximus p says for ten dollars, i'd agree disagree with
nothing orthodoxy is true. Burnstain thirty forty five dollars, Jay,
love your work. Thank you so much. Man Bird three dollars.
This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you Bird. Courtney
does a lot of really excellent work. And we've been
friends for five years I think twenty. I met you
in twenty twenty. So Courtney and her husband are very

(43:34):
good people. We know them in real life. It's not
just internet fake internet relationships. They're great people. Jmail ten dollars.
How stupid is nick Land's decimal newmogram as an oracle?
Is there a danger of this coding it into AI?
I'll let Courtney answer that. So the question is what

(43:54):
is this decimal neumogram, Is it an oracle and is
it a danger for being co into AI.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, I don't know about the danger of it, because
I think the danger depends on who's programming it, who's
programming the code, and what is their role for you,
what is their intention, what do they want the outcome?
I mean, codes are just magnifying whatever the input is.
So if Nick Land is doing it, then I think
it's probably pretty dangerous. I mean, he is embracing a

(44:25):
post human world. He warns us that there's actually a
section in one of his books where he says like
no human gets out alive, and he's this is not
a warning. He's embracing this. He's saying that the post
human world is much like Peter Chield talks about, this
is progress, This is you know, where we need to
go over our next stage of revolution. So if he's

(44:46):
programming it, I'd be a little bit concerned. I know
there was some discussion that it's based on like Cabala,
you know, it's a very similar to like the Tree
of Life, but again that all of the roots of
it are kind of irrelevant really about who's program In
terms of the danger. The danger is who's programming the
AI and why so.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Jmail five dollars. It is shocking how theosophy undergirds most
of the evil systems today. Will you take it as
a topic if you have time? This is request he's
asked for a future podcast on theosophy. Sure. I think
if you go back to one of my podcasts a
while back, I did cover theosophy in some degree of depth.

(45:30):
But maybe we need to just do one specific I
know I've done Alice Bailey, and I've done Theosophya. Maybe
we need to just do specifically a lengthy one on theosophy.
But Courtney, would you give us kind of your assessment
of the basics of theosophy. And I mean Theostoy actually
comes up quite a bit in changing images of Man.
And you know, for the people who only think that

(45:50):
everything is Jewish or only Jewish controlled, no, actually changing
image of man is explicit that anything to do with
the deity in the Torah, the deity of Judaism, the
deity of Christianity, that all has to be wiped away.
And they say something more akin to theosophy in the
future is a better approach. So it's not only an

(46:12):
all Jewish running everything I disagree with political Zionism and
raeminic philosophy and theology, but it's not Jewish people that
are the world's source of all problems. And a significant
portion of the technocratic socialist elite are not Jewish and
are part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
I know, somebody tried to tell me that Peter Cheele
was Jewish, and like, are you living under a rock?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I get told every day I'm Jewish. So apparently everyone
is actually Jewish. We just didn't even know it.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
They just the only game they ever learned playing to
play growing up with pintail on the donkey, and that
they realize it's the Jews. And so you just blame
them for everything and all the world problems go away.
Just get rid of them, that's the answer. Yeah, life
is not quite that simple. Yeah, it doesn't work that way.
So theolosophy, Yeah, I've covered this quite extensively, and I

(47:03):
actually think theosophy is very instrumental in this technocratic agenda.
I think it's kind of underpinning a lot of it.
And when you talk about the Jews and not being
compatible with theosophy, Alice Bailey actually section four in her
externalization of the hierarchy. She talks about the plan, right,
the Big Plan, and the first order of operations is

(47:27):
to eradicate the Jews. And she says that the biggest problem.
I mean, they both Lavatsky and Bailey are very opposed
to Christianity as well. They welcome the mystical variants of
all these religions, so you know, the cabalistic with the
CEA as well as cabalistic with the K or the Q.
You know, all of those are very welcome. The syncretic
variants of these religions, so something like ANARS or even

(47:50):
some of these more like Christian nationalist movements, they might
welcome because they're not biblically rooted. The big issue that
they have. This is the chart from Changing Images. Man.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, I just want to show that this this chart,
and I'm going to cut you off just to point
out that, like you can see, they're pulling from theosophy
and they're talking about dark Yeah, it says perennialism, theosophy
and the religion of the future has to absolutely discard
anything to do with Christianity, the Bible, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yes, And so what they both Bailey and Blavatski say
is that it's because of the separateness, and particularly with Jews, right,
so Christians as well, that they particular the Jews are
the first that needs to be eradicated because of their separateness.
And when you think about it, it's a monistic type
of belief system. You know, Madame Blevotski talks about how

(48:42):
it's essentially it's perennialism, right, it's the philosophy of perennialism.
So it's the all the religions and philosophies of the world.
It's not religion, it's a philosophy and they're all welcome.
And you see this in the World Parliament of Religions.
You see this in you know, even the what is
it the the Buddhist one, right, the Club Budhist and

(49:04):
you know they have all these variance ones, but they're
essentially different, you know, iterations of the World Parliament of
Religions that accepts all They even accept aahuasca religion. Right,
They're all welcome, but except for the monotheistic religion. They
even don't like a traditional Islamic religion because it's a
monotheistic and so in their view, those have to go

(49:24):
because they're trying to create a one world religion. So
they want like a soup, a theosophical soup of all
of these. And honestly, you know, I may not align
with some of the religions they choose, but if I
were a Hindu or a Buddhist, I would actually be
offended by their variation because what they do is they
just cherry pick. They cherry pick the elements that they
like that are conducive to creating this syncretic, one world

(49:47):
type of system. And the reason they can't have any
separateness is because any individuality could create some sort of dissent.
There has to be unity. So you know, they the
Theoso talk about source. We all come from source. It's
not God. This is why they worship the Gaya Earth, right,
So they worship the creation, not the Creator. And they

(50:10):
believe that the whole journey of humanity is to return
back to source. So it is, you know, it's very
akin to the Gnostic inversion where they believe they keep
talking about co creation. And I've talked about the changing
images of man, certainly talked about this and changing images
man is very much an extension of cosmic humanism. Oliver

(50:30):
Reiser his work certainly Buckminster Fuller as well Spaceship Earth.
And then we've got this, now, this first principles and
first values of Cosmo of evolving perennialism. What does it say?
It can't see it.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
No, it's Huxley's book Perennial Philosophy, which comes up excited
multiple times in changing images as a man. But I
wanted to point out that when I did my analysis
of Doctor Strange, I mean, the whole movie is premised
on the very thing that we're talking about. It's basically theosophy.
And you have to understand that, like it's more, it's
more nuanced than just saying, oh is it is it

(51:06):
Jews or not right? And even my chat is like
it's Jesus, Jesus Jews. The Jews are not the source
of all the world's problems. Like that's just simply not true.
But I can be critical of rabbinic philosophy, Zionism, et cetera,
political you know, Judaism and whatnot without thinking that people's

(51:27):
problems are inherently genetic or of their you know, descent,
or something like that. It's I don't believe that, and
I've consistently had the same perspective for a long time.
So I don't know, people the chat's all trying to
figure out who's a fed. But this anytime these always
come up, that's all that ends up happening, is like
you're a fed, You're all fed, You're all okay, Yes,
we're all fed. Now let's move on to actual argumentation.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
To close that off, I just want to say that
now we've got the first Principle's first values of evolving
perennialism forty two propositions on cosmo rotic humanism, and that's
David Temple. And this is an ext extension of the
Changing Image of a Man document, and this is laying
the groundwork for a post human future. But it's the
difference between someone like Nick Land, who is saying that,

(52:12):
you know, we're just going to create the technology, and
then the technology is going to take care of the
rest and take care of the post human world for
us through recursively programmed algorithms. The difference here is that
it's saying we have to co create and so we
have to adopt this philosophy so that we can become one,
We can become one with God, you know, not in

(52:33):
a religious sense, but like in a theosophical sense, we're
going to return to source. We're all going to be one,
there's no distinction, will become subsumed into the nosphere. You know,
they have a different terms because they always rebrand, like
some of them call it collective intelligence. They'll give a
different name, but it's still this no sphere concept where
you will not have individuality, you will not have They

(52:56):
of course use words like unique. You know, they're trying
to use veilcraft to lure you in, so they use
the words that buzzwords that they think will resonate with people.
But what they're really saying is that they are embracing
this no sphere concept where we're all subsumed, and this
is theosophy. And now they're just saying we need to embrace,
embrace the technology that will advance this. So yeah, and

(53:21):
I'll sorry. One morning, I would say, I call it
the technological immincization of the escaton. And this is a
very theosophical concept. So I think that you know, I
know you and your audience are probably familiar with the
idea of imminittization of the escton, but it's you know,
bringing heaven here on Earth. It's a political concept, and
I put technological in front of it because I think

(53:41):
that's exactly what they're doing. They're they they now assume
the role of God, right, they arrogate themselves to godlike
status where they become the architects of reality. But of
course they can't actually bring Heaven on Earth, so they're
creating a simulacra and so it's got the essence of Earth,
but it's all a fake. And they think this is
going to be a utopia, but of course utopia mean nowhere,

(54:04):
and I think it's going to be a dystopian healthscape.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
But yeah, excellent. And the book is in the show description.
It's also in the chat. You can get a copy
of Courtney's book. You can also get it at technologtry
Technocracy News, which is Patrick woodsite. Brad Rundy twenty dollars. Hey,
I talked to you in Florida at the book signing.
I want to say thank you for walking through some

(54:28):
of the orthodox religious concepts. I agree with Courtney that
technocracy is where we're headed. God bless Thank you, Brad,
appreciate that. Courtney, Thank you for coming on. Oh wait,
we've got some more here. Lecy, Doctor Chungo, Alex, JB.
Cody all became members. Yeah, be sure and check out
Courtney's substack. Even if you disagree, we can still learn

(54:51):
from her voluminous tomes that she writes, So go check
out her substack. It's good information. Everybody needs to. Let's
just admit that everybody is a FED. We are all Feds,
all of us. Everybody is a double triple quadruple agent.
So wait a minute. If we're quadruple agents, we're actually

(55:11):
just back on the same original team that we were on.
So or triple triple or quadruple I don't know, sextuple agents.
We're all sex tuplet agents. Courtney, thank you for coming on. Guys,
we're not going anywhere. Be sure and follow her also
on X I've got our information linked. Thank you for
coming on, and I look forward to chatting about Sir
Calwood three with you soon if we can do that.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, I think we have a plan for December, so
looking forward to it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Thank you.

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philosophy want on one course, they give you kind of
some useless information that you can't make sense of. Jay
actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens of
hours put into just the presentation of this let alone,
on the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that
it takes to have a coherent evolution and history of

(57:06):
the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different
ways to look at it over time, and how that
has been brought about to what we have today, which
is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective, logic
and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that
is irrational and is made up day by day as

(57:26):
people are like I think we should bring racism back,
and then here's a justification, and then it gets woke,
afied and spread out, and then all of a sudden
you have a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you
become the property in action.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
You need to be able to stand on your own ground.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
It helps to have a foundation in philosophy because it's
a method define truth when you get down to it.
Philosophy is there because you love truth enough to go
and learn how to find it, because it's valuable. So
if you're interested in things like that. There is the
landing page. We'll link it up into notes. It is
a longer once, so we'll get a shorter.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
You are alfa this.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
I'm sure Jay has a link on his page. I
just wanted to show it off. Now you know what exists,
you can go look for it and see why this
is not your father's philosophy. Right, So well done. I'm
proud of everyone who helped to produce and edit the course.
And of course Jed did a flawle's job in presenting
the course over those twelve weeks.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
And he's a juggernaut.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
He's another guy just like John Bush, in action all
the time, doing something productive like very little wasted time
in his week those one six aower.

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Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
All right, welcome back. Actually, I mean, as far as
our stuff goes, today's problems are pretty minimal for YouTube
issues and obs issues. And I'm just happy that the
audio choppy seems to have been fixed. Cross your fingers.

(01:00:39):
Seems like it's pretty good. Right. We haven't had the
audio chop, have we, at least today? And yet you
can can we confirm, which is good news. That means
maybe the iOS or the OS up eighty fixed it.
And that wasn't a mistake. That was me trying to

(01:01:00):
do the workaround just to make sure that our audio
is good. Awesome, Thank you so much, no choppy. All right,
let's talk about crazy stuff that has dropped. First of all,
I want to play y'all a shout out to our

(01:01:20):
boy Devon, your boy Devin over here. Now, I'm not
joking when I say Devon has actually produced hype beats
for Snoop for who else has Devon done this for?
We're gonna give a shout out to Devin. Devon has
done Redman, Methamn, Cypress Hill, DJ Quick, Snoop Dogg, ice

(01:01:45):
Cube and Devon went hard on creating a nice, new,
fresh cringe core drop. Yes, you heard it right. You're
about to hear the first time ever on my livestream
playing this hype new hit. It's called Pantecostal. Shout out

(01:02:05):
to Devin. This is the money laundering remix.

Speaker 9 (01:02:10):
Fanti Costa, Santi Costa.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
I was born.

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
In a Christian family, Panticosta, Panticosta.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
That's what they have charged right now.

Speaker 11 (01:02:27):
That's all about a charge some we're about to have
an eye shut church party in the baby too, that's
what that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
They call the after party.

Speaker 11 (01:02:39):
I never heard of the after party.

Speaker 12 (01:02:43):
I was.

Speaker 9 (01:02:45):
In a Christian family, Santi Costa, Santi Costa.

Speaker 12 (01:02:52):
I was.

Speaker 9 (01:02:55):
In a Christian family, Fanticosta, tan pe Co.

Speaker 11 (01:03:03):
I put my Gia dug my fresh out and get it.
I put my Gia dug in on the first, been
on both get wrong. I'm nice on what I'm wrong.
It's a freaking weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Maybe we're about to have on some chart.

Speaker 9 (01:03:21):
I was Romania in a family tan pe Co, Tan.
I was Romania in a free family tan pe Co.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Tany come, that's the day I have charged right now?
Who put your panties back on? It's getting cold in here.
Put your panties back on? Now? What else is going on?
A lot of crazy stuff going on. Look at this

(01:04:00):
right here. Listen, A lot of y'all ain't ready to
have this conversation right here, y'all ain't ready for this conversation.
Just stop and think for a minute. Are you ready?
Is you ready? You ain't ready for this conversation. A
lot of people used to fly, you know that, and
then the White Man introduced a crap diet and all

(01:04:23):
of them wings fell off like a fly wing, they
just clipped off, just popped off. And now you're earth bound.
My brothers and sisters, my fellow people is all terrestrialized.
We earth bound. But that's about the change. Now. The
other thing we want to talk about was, once again,

(01:04:44):
it's almost like today was a lot of vindications and
yesterday we just keep getting vindicated left and right. This
big story that has just popped off, prominent journalist Steve
Baker not going to be covered anywhere. Mainstream media absolutely
not touching it. And turns out Capitol policewoman who just

(01:05:08):
happens to look like she enjoys other women, is now
the major suspect supposed match for the J six pipe
b O m B. She was subsequently then promoted to

(01:05:31):
CIA operations. What do you know? What do you know? Vindicated?
Did we said all along? This was quite obviously a
massive effect operation Honeypot. More and more and more information
comes out over time. That's absolutely quite obviously what it was.
Not only were we vindicated, there, turns out Tucker just

(01:05:55):
had on a mass of geoengineering podcast discussions. Now. I
learned about this in about two thousand and seven, and
oddly enough, a weird series of events occurred. I remember
when I first learned about this. I was watching documentaries,

(01:06:17):
I was reading some articles about geoengineering, and went out
to eat and was discussing this with some family members,
And of course they thought I was good zone crazy
because nobody talked about Kim trails, so to speak at
this time. And lo and my hole turns out more

(01:06:42):
and more and more vindication. Now back in twenty eighteen,
almost ten years ago, maybe twenty twenty seventeen, because I
wrote the article in twenty seventeen, so almost ten years ago.
I wrote about not just Zbigni Brezenski in between two
ages talking about weaponizing weather and geoengineering. I included studies

(01:07:06):
from the Royal Society. So if you read Esoteric Hollywood
you knew ten years ago about geoengineering.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
You're on something crazy real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Most of the you knew about this ten years ago.
So I started this chapter of Esoteric Hollywood two talking
about the Avengers and if you remember Sean Connery plays.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Oh my Gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
So everyone wants just wants to talk about the most
retarded stuff. Y'all want to talk about fat Earth, even
though we're vindicated after all these years, all this information,
and now no, we just want to talk about retarded
shit in the chat. That's all we want to talk about.
We just wanted to be who's a fed? Forget the
fact that Day was right about all the stuff that

(01:08:01):
he wrote about and was called a retard conspiracy theorist
for so many years. I actually cited for you Royal
Society papers on geoengineering. I cited for you Stanford VLF
studies and research in Essa Terr Hollywood too. It's not
Charlie's Angels, it's The Avengers with Ray Fine, Sean Connery

(01:08:27):
and Uma Thurman, and Huma Thurman is a multiple personality
m K Ultra sex slave, honeypot assassin. I also talked
about GoldenEye. GoldenEye is about e MP. Look at this
NRL naval research creating plasma clouds. Look at that using

(01:08:51):
harp Stanford VLF group, and I was tying it into
the Bond episode, the one with Christopher Lee, not just
Die Another Day, because that's a directed energy weapon, but

(01:09:13):
the Man with the Golden Gun. So did you know
that the Bond series, all the way back in the
nineteen seventy four film The Man with the Golden Gun
is actually talking about globalist technocratic ideas that were already
in Brazenski's book in nineteen seventy three, so a year before,

(01:09:34):
two years before Brezenskiet written Between Two Ages, which talks
about ELFVLF, weather manipulation, atmosphere weaponization, and that it's in
the movie a couple of years later, the Bond film
with Christopher Lee as the villain, utilizing directed energy weapons,

(01:09:54):
weather weapons, et cetera. I then cited Michael Akino's famous
paper Mind War to Cywar, which is about the weaponization
of ELF, ELF and so forth, and told you about
all this stuff so many years ago. Now, snow Piercer,

(01:10:17):
if you remember, Snowpeaercer actually began with geoengineering cloud seeding
that went awry, right, So the whole premise of the
Snowcarcer story is that the trying to fix the weather
actually caused this massive weather cataclysm. So a lot of

(01:10:37):
stories have included the terraforming geoengineering narrative, and what we
did in the book was try to tie it into
and explain in what ways and how this was possibly real.
In fact, even before this I didn't even remember, like
I had my Dune analysis. This is my old, pre
sophisticated Dune analysis. So even though I was pretty much

(01:10:58):
right about most of what I had in this and
I'd only read Dune one, I got way more sophisticated
as we progressed in the Dune series and learned a
lot more because Part two is actually do Massaiah is
actually way more philosophical. Right, I don't think snow Piercer

(01:11:20):
as a movie. I wouldn't say it sucked, but it
was definitely kind of a letdown the sense of like
controlled opposition. Do you like the controlled opposition stuff? It's
kind of like nineteen eighty four, right, because Curtis discovers
that the front of the train coordinates with the back

(01:11:44):
of the train, right, so Ed Harris is actually coordinating
with John what's his face from bravenew World, John Hurt.
But I went pretty deep into analyzing snow cursers, so
I think he goes like it. And also people forget

(01:12:05):
that Alien Actually the Alien series is also about geoengineering
and terraforming as well, so Whaling Corporation, Whaleen New Tawny,
especially in Aliens Part two, they're very much interested in
terraforming the alien planet or whatever. So, yeah, if you

(01:12:26):
missed these, these are classics. And you can get a
circlub with one, two, and three now shipping in the
store at jaysanalysis dot com. Thank you guys so much.
There's quite a few movies I'd like to talk about too,
even though we didn't really have that on. I got

(01:12:46):
gums stuck to my book. I don't know how I
did that. It's weird. Quite a few movies that were
really good of late that are worth talking about. But
we'll see, we'll see where we go. We could talk
about Black Ops two. I mean that's the CIA, you know,
essentially being involved in what happened at j six, which

(01:13:10):
to me looks like a joint CIA FBI coordinated FED
Honeypot operation steel Born five dollars day. How would you
refute omnism. I feel like it's reducing it to relativism
is the best way. I mean, I would assume so.

(01:13:31):
But honestly, again, shout out to doctor Evo. He's the
one that created those fat beats. I'll be honest with you.
I'm not even sure what omnism is. So I think
somebody mentioned it on it they called in a few
months ago, and I didn't know what this was. Omnism
the belief that all the religions and spiritual past lead

(01:13:52):
to the similar creator. Okay, so it's just syncretism. Yeah,
it would be fully Hindu, you know, just totally arbitrary, because,
first of all, how do we know that all the
religions have a similar path when all the religions fundamentally contradict.
So there would be a presupposition at work here that

(01:14:15):
there is some fundamental truth that is the right thing
that all the religions share. Well, how do we know
that just because a bunch of systems share something that
that's therefore true or more true, or a higher truth?
It may just be not the case, right, So it
rests on a very fundamental kind of assumption that isn't

(01:14:36):
a given right. So there's an epistemic problem, there's a
metaphysical problem. In that the many religions posit not even
necessarily secondary things that are different or contradictory, they posit
fundamental contradictions. So, for example, if I believe that God

(01:15:00):
created x nilo, I can't turn around and believe that
the world isn't real and it's an illusion. So fundamentally
creation x nilo is incompatible with a worldview where there
is no creation. There's just sort of a simulation or

(01:15:20):
an illusion or something like that. Right, those are fundamentally
contradictory worldviews. And to say that, well they have the
same creator is the quantify or shift fallacy. And if
you don't know what the quanti parriership fallacy is. This
of course came up in the hubbub of some months

(01:15:42):
ago with all of the Roman Catholic goobers that were
saying that Muslims, Christians, and Jews all worship the same
God because they're monotheists. Well, what is the character or
nature of that monotheistic thing being entity that we're talking about. Oh,
it turns out they're very contradictory. Yeah, but they're all
one God. Okay, So if a Satanist believes that Satan

(01:16:04):
created the world, do we all worship the same God
because it's one God and one creator. Of course not.
But that's the silliness of the quantifier shift fallacy. What
is that, Well, everybody has a mother, one mother, so
therefore we all have one and the same mother. That's
a fallacy. The one time that Jay Dyer starts on time,

(01:16:30):
I'm late. No, No, I didn't actually start on time.
I threw y'all for a curve ball. I started like
two hours early. Oh shit, y'all got fool. We've been
here already now. The reason I did that was I
was supposed to interview Courtney and then I was going
to livestream. I was like, just have her come on

(01:16:52):
the live stream, and that's simplest way to do it,
and then just have the whole thing flow into one
just one giant flow.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
We're all about that flow. We're all about that doctor
Evo flow. Bro. I got ice cube snoop producer. I
got snoops producer, Ice cubes producer over making beats, bro,
and y'all don't even appreciate it. There should be a
million people live right now listening to these fat beats,

(01:17:23):
and what do we have just a hardcore group of
committed chad nerds. That's okay, though I was born that's
the damn charts right there.

Speaker 11 (01:17:44):
That's all about a charge some We're about to have
an eye shut church party in the baby, that's what
That's what they call an after party. Y'all ever heard
of the after party?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:17:59):
He was born Romania in a family, Fancy Costa, Santi Costa.
I was born Romania in a three family fancy Costa,
Santy Costa.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
I put my and.

Speaker 11 (01:18:22):
My fresh gets about my gig on the first.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Don't both get wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
I'm nice. So what I'm wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
It's a freaking weekend. Baby, We about to have some chart.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
I was born Romania in a three family Sandy Coast.
I was born Romania in a family.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Now, how could I be vindicated from this?

Speaker 13 (01:18:55):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
What did I titled it? I titled it the money
Laundering Remix? Because it turns out your girl can just
over here, your girl Candy, your girl Candy Sweets, who
supposedly has now the largest podcasts in the world. That's

(01:19:19):
I mean, what, so she's there's I don't know, I
haven't checked this, but they're saying she has surpassed Joe Rogan,
which is interesting, and this is because she has gone
full steam into questioning the Charlie Kirk event. So there's

(01:19:39):
a lot of just media. It's just crazy, dude, this
is crazy what's going on with media? So why do
I bring this up? Well, as you heard in the
r Kelly money laundering remix that we just pulled off
right there, she just talked about what I've talked about

(01:20:02):
for forever. Now. I didn't talk about this in relationship
to TPUSA and all this because I have not followed
or kept up with TPUSA and all this evangelical stuff. However,
there is something to be said about large evangelical groups
being used for espionage, money laundering, all this kind of stuff.

(01:20:27):
We saw this in many live streams right that we've
done when it comes to megachurches being busted for not
just criminal operations and money launder but also being used
for CIA operations, covers for even weapons trafficking. At the
time of the Cold War, the CIA would use some

(01:20:47):
of these evangelical megachurch mission churches in Latin South America
to bring weapons in and it makes sense. It's a
great cover, right if you want to ship some weapons
down to Ecuador down there to fight you know, Tristan's
communist revolution. Well why not use you know, evangelical life
church mission as a cover for weapons traffic? And you

(01:21:10):
started to thinking, Hey, wait a minute, I've heard of
other cults doing this. Right, O Show's cult had caches
of weapons and they were surveilling people. And now people
are turning up information about uh hair grow what's his name,
Kenneth Copeland? All right, now, I don't know, and I'm
not saying that Kenneth Copeland is directly involved. I don't

(01:21:34):
have allegedly okay to quote Kat Williams allegedly Joe allegedly.
People are saying that turns out Kenneth Copeland's got things
that are sus you've got. I mean, like, that's surprising, right,
He's got like oil wells, people of what the heck's

(01:21:54):
going on? Megachurches with oil wells. Oh, it turns out
I made a skit about that. Pastor Randy Balls just
happened to have an oil well y'all remember that. You
know what's funny? That's like, how many of my skits
are becoming prophetic. We saw the Pope of the Future
talking about living over a Target and a Walmart. Turns

(01:22:16):
out that rolled out Randy Balls talking about megachurch pastors
with oil wells. Oh, it turns out that's actually true, dude.
Even the crazy skits that I try to imagine, the
craziest shit imaginable for the skits all turns out is true.
It's not even crazy. You know what I'm talking about,

(01:22:39):
Randy Balls, And what made me think of this was
actually John Hagey. I was like, maybe John hagy has
like deals in the Middle East for oil wells or something. Right,
So I put at the end of the skit after
the flying black creature, remember this.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Look at that, dude, we just floated down on that.
It's basically a miracle church.

Speaker 14 (01:23:08):
You thought you needed a good soul and soul preacher,
Well I got a soul preacher that flies like your sol.
Come on down the circus of power Mega meg a
church where the black preachers fly.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Ay, Like I said, there's gonna be my own nuclear facility.

Speaker 15 (01:23:33):
That's right, it's a specifically a Christian nuclear facility. Look
at these cool guys they're playing in the band at
the new facilities.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
It's gonna be great.

Speaker 15 (01:23:42):
It's a specifically new project that I've put together with
John Hagey, together with Cornerstone Church.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
We're gonna go to the Middle East.

Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
And take a lot of oil's nuclear oil.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
It don't gotta make no sense, but it's gonna be great. Well,
we'll be sure to clean up. I'm so, I promise.
Just come to church.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
By the way, church is only five to nine per
minute if you want to live stream it with Randy
Balls's live streaming services. So he did. Randy did create
a live streaming service. And by the way, if you
never saw this as a classic, this part too.

Speaker 15 (01:24:24):
By the way, Hey, wait a minute, are you sick
and tired of the same old mega church crap?

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
You sick and tired of monster truck rallies at your service?

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
We had that in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 16 (01:24:37):
This is old school.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
It's twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
It's time for the future. Salt went Church with a
little more age. Hey, that's right. We've hired a whole
troop of dang golf teams to come down and be part.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Of our church.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
I don't bring in the other teams.

Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
That team not to nest in here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Whoa hey, look, goss, I know a lot of y'all
are a little.

Speaker 13 (01:25:07):
Worried since I had to do so many sermons after
my paralyzation accident.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
From zoom from my cell.

Speaker 6 (01:25:15):
Don't worry.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
I'm gonna be out of this Cavan Islands High Security
prisons very soon because.

Speaker 14 (01:25:21):
I was not doing nothing with no rugs or not that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Don't wry.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
I'm gonna be back and it's gonna be charged.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Listen, it ain't help. It ain't help the devil know
wise whatsoever.

Speaker 13 (01:25:34):
To help shut down our ministries. We got our end
Times underground bases still being built. We got our new
LG DVTVQ plus worship team. We got our new luxury
car lot, we got our.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
New fake Disney World.

Speaker 13 (01:25:48):
We've even got bullying ministry as well as my Christian
nuclear energy facility.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Being set up. And don't forget the fly kid.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Due to all the converts from only fans to my big, mega,
mega mega church, I've.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Got a found a job for all these lovely ladies.
Well guess we're They're gonna read and talk to you
by the Internet. Why if you sign up there, read
the song is over to you for free for the
first thirty five minutes.

Speaker 11 (01:26:19):
Then it becomes diving are.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
I guess what, you don't even gotta wear a shirt?
No more to cool surf gas service. Church is coolest, But.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Yeah, when are we gonna get cool surfguy service where
you don't have to wear a you don't have to
wear a shirt. See the thing is you make these
saptire videos and then the mecca churches are like, this
is actually a good business model. Let's go with that,
all right. So let's hear Candace talking about church.

Speaker 10 (01:26:55):
Where this is going turning point faith.

Speaker 17 (01:26:58):
Everywhere that I'm instigating turning point faith keeps coming up.
These characters keep coming up. And there's a pattern that
I'm noticing that a lot of these mainstream pastures and
preachers actually come from high ranking military families. Ranking military
families have been around for a long time. Ties to
the Navy, times, ties to the Air Force. Frank Turrek

(01:27:19):
Air Force. Rob McCoy, we discussed about his background as
naval background psychological operations.

Speaker 10 (01:27:25):
They're literally named like a fleet.

Speaker 17 (01:27:27):
Of ships after his father, Like there was like the
McCoy naval something. Lance Wall noow, he's no different. He
graduated from a military academy. His father, Carl wallnow was
a major in the United States Air Force Okay Wall
now served.

Speaker 10 (01:27:44):
Under General Patten.

Speaker 17 (01:27:46):
After the war, he then continued his adventures as a
field engineer for Standard Oil Okay building high pressure liquid
pane installations throughout political revolutions and world. So he would
go and do that in Haiti and Cuba, Dominican Republic,
places that I would argue that we cause a lot

(01:28:06):
of drama.

Speaker 10 (01:28:08):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
I remember, we've done a lot of podcasts and talks
on evangelical megachurches being forms of soft power, being forms
of covert operations, money laundering. We all know Mormons are
recruited by the CIA quite often to do espionage in
other countries. They're trained with languages, so language skills, traveling
to other countries, being a young dummy, those are all

(01:28:32):
key things and also perhaps being skittles that make you
ripe for CIA recruitment and usage. And this is partly,
as we pointed out, why countries like Russia ban say
Joe's witnesses, and then this gets played up in the

(01:28:53):
media as oh It's persecution. Evil Putin is persecuting the poor,
fun loving Jehoah's witnesses who just want to have their
little church cult. Oh, but it turns out the reason
for the persecution is precisely because cults are used for

(01:29:18):
soft power, espionage, you name it. But of course most
people are dumb, they're not very sophisticated, and they don't
know that. They're never going to figure out that a
lot of cults, especially and evangelical megachurches are used for
money laundering, let's end, for espionage and for soft power.

(01:29:39):
Remember the excellent article that Mark Hackard did and you
can't even pull half this stuff up anymore, doesn't come
up because Google's broken. I should just use the index
for example. For example, we had the Clinton Foundation using

(01:30:00):
this black Pentecostal megachurch pastor Pastor sunde ad Laja, and
this was part of the preparation operations in Ukraine before
the coup. The Clinton Foundation, CIA, etc. Utilized a lot
of charismatic, evangelical and acumenist movements to promote and to

(01:30:23):
push the splitting of the church in Ukraine. And it's
not just the schismatic fake Orthodox Church. They also utilize
these kinds of evangelical groups as well. And this is
very important in the preparation for the Maidan coup that
they ramp up and hype up a lot of these groups.

(01:30:46):
And so even though Canvas isn't talking about that specifically,
that's a big part of megachurches and their role and
being really just perfect conduits for this kind of stuff.
You think about it, there's no oversight. They operate like
a business. It's business church, right And if you doubt

(01:31:06):
me on that, let's remember and shout out to Kyle
at dire Clips because he just uploaded this which I
forgot about. It's a very useful telling clip. Watch this.
Any church started by some businessman, come on, that's come on,
there's no businessman church. That's the true church. I'm gonna

(01:31:31):
start my Shawnees church. I'm gonna start up Shawney's big
boy church. I'm gonna start up. Actually, all all the
Protestants they look like businessmen. So I guess technically every
Protestant church is businessman church, isn't it? And they they
act like businesses, right, It is like a business, So
I should I'm wrong there. Actually most churches are businessman

(01:31:53):
churches exactly. I guess I should say the megachurch. Megachurch
pastors are like business us man pastor come to business church.
This man knows what he's teach you, the techniques of
time saving and learn learn timeshare, learn how to sell

(01:32:13):
your time share at business church anyway, cracking up over
here at business church. But that's what Protestants is now.
We did this livestream like eight years ago, and then
Kyle found the perfect clip to go along with us.
This is really funny. It's just business church, businessman church.

Speaker 18 (01:32:33):
Perhaps you've studied the Eastern Orthodoxy or spend some time
talking to or visiting an Eastern Orthodox church and you're saying, well,
it's not quite that black and white. I get that sentiment. Nevertheless,
I believe it is why because we have to cut

(01:32:55):
through the clutter. There is a great deal of confusion
about the Eastern Orthodox religion because of the way they
think in a Western mindset. And I don't mean this pejoratively,
but it typically takes them about seven or eight paragraphs
to answer the question how's the weather today? It tends

(01:33:16):
to be a little bit confused.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Who is this creepy evangelical bill? And I, by the way,
what the heck even is this guy? Obviously, Jesus intended
his church to look like a nineties family sitcom set. Yeah,
this is obviously what church is supposed to look.

Speaker 18 (01:33:35):
Like, oozing, But that is no excuse for those of
us who stand on faith alone, grace alone, and Jesus
Christ alone to say, well, then they're just another denomination
of the Christian faith. We have to cut through the
clutter and we have to make some calls. This is

(01:33:56):
a life.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
I mean, it's so obviously Bill, Bill and I the
business church guy, right, It's like corporate strip mall created.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Church.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
It's so freaking fake and obvious. I mean, who actually
thinks Jesus set up corporate business church? And yet that's
exactly what the guy attacking orthodoxy.

Speaker 13 (01:34:27):
Is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
I mean he looks like he looks like somebody from
Madmen that got AIDS. Yeah, that's that's what I want.
I want Don Draper with Aids as my pastor, and
I want church to look like I'm walking through IKEA.
That's church for sure, and death issue.

Speaker 18 (01:34:52):
People could be going to hell because they believe that
justification involves sanctification.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Do you see that past he did that pastor magic.
He put a little corporate pastor magic on us, put
a pastor spell on us.

Speaker 18 (01:35:09):
Now, undoubtedly that is what the Easter.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
I mean, tell me this, don't feel like you're walking
through Ikea. Okay, you're about to get a You about
to buy you a double framed bedsuit from this church.
That what's a bedsuit? I just made up worms, made
up words A A shift of rode, you all, I'm

(01:35:36):
up here in I'm up here in Ikea trying to
find me a shift of rode. I'm about to go
to Ikea church, Ikea church.

Speaker 8 (01:35:44):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Bro We combine Mega church, business church. We combine reverend
CEO with Ikea. That's Randy Balls's next great invention, his
next business plan. Randy Balls's circus of power Mega Megachurch
is going to be combined in a business corporate takeover

(01:36:08):
plan with Ikea. Dude, is Ikea Church. It's like, Ah,
I'm trying to find a ship robe and save my soul.
I can do it at the same place.

Speaker 18 (01:36:19):
An Orthodox church teaches they do not believe that Jesus
death on the Cross was taking the wrath of the
Father upon himself that you and I might be forgiven.
They do not believe in grace alone, faith alone, in
Jesus alone. Yes, they believe in grace plus works that

(01:36:40):
means the person who thinks they can work their way
to heaven in some way, shape or form is in
for a very eternal.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
It's time for church ch Chinese goods coming to us
from Sweden. It's church church Church. Get a chip of
robe and a nice little plant way save your soul.

(01:37:20):
It's it's it's like, not only am I walking down
to the altar, I'm walking through the ikea set to
get to the altar.

Speaker 19 (01:37:33):
If you're if you'll just come downhill through the Ikaa
set to the altar, wef ill. We'll give you a
nice chiffle rob. If you give your soul to Jesus,
we will well. If I'm a nice chiffle robe. We've
even got a nice little coffee part here with a
from their face. If you'll say the son is pro.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
It's called business Church. Corporate red combined with MOMSI moms
are shopping. It's corporrid business church. She runs the ladies
Bible Study in the rug section. Do do do, Just

(01:38:20):
head to the rug section and you'll find Nko. It's
a black girl's name, but it's on a white girl's face.
It's called Bible Study in the rug section. Do do.

Speaker 12 (01:38:41):
Important to note if it were to have a drum,
I'm sure it would be bumped up an extra one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Dude, I can't even get the views that Shanika gets
walking through I Kia. This mama gets one hundred thousand
of view one hundred and twenty thousand views walking through
our gear. It's called business church.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
If you're looking for a single mom, try silverware Do
do do? There's a single section over by the silverware.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Do do do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I want some more of this music. Let's go back
to this music.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Hi said, I love coming here, I don't come.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
There's a twenty five discount on your soul.

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
Do do do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
We've got layaway plans for salvation. Yeah yeah, yeah, saying
I key pray for us. What we'll we do?

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Ooh ooh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
It's the purpose driven IQA Cathedral RC. This super chat
was supposed to be a tithe at Baptist Church. But
you have convinced me because the service was canceled. My pastor,
Randy Balls has a hangover. Get some church drama. Get

(01:40:28):
a little church drama. CS ten dollars is he's wanted
to dance. I like that's the vibe. I'm after today
just dancing. Let's get back to Sweet Candy over here.

Speaker 10 (01:40:40):
So Lance fits the pattern well.

Speaker 17 (01:40:43):
And before I tell you how he is very connected
to Turning Point USA faith, I do want to also
be clear that Frank Turk stands out because he flat
out acknowledged on one of his podcasts that NAR was
a cult, actually darker than a.

Speaker 10 (01:40:57):
Cult NAR NAR.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Who is that that evangelical dude? Wait, who's Frank Trick?
Is this some evangelical person. I don't know who he is. Oh,

(01:41:29):
he's an evangelical Is he a TPUSA pastor? So wait
a minute? Is TPUSA a denomination?

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Are they like making a move to become at This
is so crazy, dude? What okay? So TPUSA is trying
to make a church denomination? Why not? I mean? This
is like, dude, all evangelical stuff is business church. Do
we prophesied this in my business church? Business church was

(01:42:01):
a prophecy? Again? Oh shitty, another prophecy a business church
coming to reality with Toapoosa Toapoosa and Sweet Candy is
over here calling it out.

Speaker 12 (01:42:17):
You go grow what Frank said about NAR, like, technically
a group in NAR stands for what again?

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
I'm sorry, the New Apostolic Reformation.

Speaker 12 (01:42:26):
That's Bill Johnson out there in California and northern Caloria.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Oh, this is what Courtney was talking about. Okay, so
Courtney mentioned n AR. Okay, let's see New Apostolic Reformation
and is this just rebranded dominion theology from Pat Robertson's
at all?

Speaker 6 (01:42:39):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
The fastest growing religious evangelical gibberish shirt. Oh no, don't
tell oh they got a bunch of women pastors too.
Oh my gosh. Well, let's see what this is.

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
Pre and declare that racism and it's over in the
Ectasia from this night forward, in Jesus' mighty name.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Something. Have a ration, you know, no murder of ration,
you know, a multi racism no more. Oh my gosh,
they have apostles. Oh my gosh, what the heck is

(01:43:28):
that they're all putting their hands on a pole.

Speaker 10 (01:43:32):
We need you to agree with us.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Who you tell a girl, any woman that has any church?
They got a woman bishop. I'm there, girl, Close the door,
shut the dough. Y'all ain't coming out until I see
twenty thousand dollars in super chest. Close the bathroom door
right now, Lock him in, Lock them wiggus in. Ain't
nobody coming out the bathroom until I see twenty thousand

(01:43:57):
dollars in super chats. Okay, lock them in. Lock the dough,
because a lot of y'all right now is shipping a
lot of y'all sitting on a toilet, okay, and y'all
ain't coming out that toilet until I see twenty thousand
dollars in super chests right now, Lock the dough, Lock
them up on the counter.

Speaker 10 (01:44:17):
Three on three, shot with us one two, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Oh, Samla. I thought she was gonna start talking in tongues.

Speaker 13 (01:44:34):
For a little more time, so we had a videos
we cut out give her more time, But she's asking
for more.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Time the other way down. Oh my gosh, are these
they're all charismatic goobers that roll around and laugh. You
can't make this up. Uh look, I'm just offended that
Randy Balls wasn't invented, It was not invited to nar Okay,
Randy Balls is about to take on these phonies, these
false profits. It's these pharisees, these white washed tombs. Really wow, and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
We'll even be happy about it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Shoe forget Randy Balls. That's that's patriarchy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
I want.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I want Saint a Kia's Cathedral with Bishop Karen Phransie.
Bishop Karen Phronsie, I forget.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
You're you're so nice, you just let people get toasted
in church.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
It's like, huh, Lauren. A lot of y'all dummies think
that she's drunk on the spirit, like this is what
actual Like charismatic goobers think that being drunk in the
spirit is actually being drunk, right or acting like it,
But it's the Holy Spirit. But then it turns out

(01:46:21):
it turns out that maybe these wine moms are just drunk, dude.
Maybe it's just phronsia communion. I think the New Apostela
Reformation is letting these wine moms and these wine ants preach,
and they've been hitting that box wine a little too much.

(01:46:43):
They're using box wine instead of grape juice. Right, A
lot of these Protestants are moving away from Welch's grape
juice and they're using that phronsia.

Speaker 20 (01:46:52):
It actually brings shifts, It brings light into the darkness.
It creates those things that are not you know, it's
like bringing forth a care no. And that's the beauty
of the Apostolic authority that every believer has apostolic oil
in them, and if we would all exercise it, avastolic.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Oil she's talking about. We know what she's She's talking
about phronsia. That's that apostolic oil.

Speaker 8 (01:47:18):
Never be the same.

Speaker 20 (01:47:20):
And I'm still desperate, I'm still thirsty.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Randy Clark was, she's on damn pills. You can't tell this.
People are lunatics on pills. Drunk on pills. That's where
I want to.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
Go to church.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
I will argue my spiritual guidance from drunk wine. Mount
Haley's in the chat ten dollars. Tanner g two dollars.
Tanner says, let me out of the bathroom. I only
see two dollars super chest. You ain't coming out of
that bathroom. That bout you two minutes. You ain't coming
out of the bathroom till I see twenty thousand dollars
super chests right now. Hay Man talking and suddenly he said,

(01:48:02):
I have to change my message.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
I need to speak about the apostolic anointing.

Speaker 6 (01:48:07):
Well Chapter twelve, verse twenty eight, he says, first apostle.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
We got Pastor chow yun fat over here is about
to set of straight. We got Pastor Jackie Chan over here,
you better get yourself, you better get into repentance, or
pastor Jackie Chan will chop the racism out of you.

Speaker 6 (01:48:28):
So second prophet, third teachers and Paul uses very strong
Greek words proton, deuteron, and tryton. And when he says first.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Those strong Greek words, I like how his sales pitch
is trying to quote Greek and mystify all the ady
IQ evangelicals. Well, he was quoting the Greek. That proton
is a strong Greek word. It's strong. I ain't like
alpha omega. That's a proton is like a proton gun

(01:49:01):
out of star trek. That's a strong Greek word. Took
it into Greek.

Speaker 6 (01:49:06):
It's not first that we're better than anyone else, we're
all equal before God. But it's first an authority. The
God has given authority to the apostles. That's why in
Matthew twenty eight he takes the twelve of minus judis
of course back.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Oh my gosh, dude, so wait, so this is tpusa.
Is these retards unbelievable. It's not unbelievableough, it's actually very
believable because basically the world that we're going into anytime
you're teended to think, No, that's too crazy, that's too retarded,
No that is real. Just immediately assume whatever you hear

(01:49:46):
that is the most retarded is the most real. Now
that's the world that we now live in.

Speaker 8 (01:49:51):
Oh my god, I've been I will write a revelation Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Oh my god, what the hell is this? Dude? We
got crazy pink haired rannies. Now the apostles are pink
haired grannies where but.

Speaker 16 (01:50:06):
They're getting crazier by the dayand a lion. And I
want to be clear that if you ever see any
of what I'm about to show you in your church,
please get up and run out immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
So you're ready, let's go. I like, how the only
people exposing these people or other evangelicals because everybody else
doesn't even know about this. So hold on, you're saying
TPSA doesn't do this, Okay, Well, then what's she talking
about with is TPUSA is not officially part of it,

(01:51:14):
but he affiliated with the Seven Mountain Mandate. Now I'm

(01:51:34):
not reading some boomers schizo rent Is Sean Foyt a
false teacher? And are they're legitimate? All these evangelicals when
they do their expose is it's all just like a
bunch of false prophets exposing false prophets. They're all just

(01:51:55):
total lunatics. That's funny. So you're saying they're not affiliated,
But there's the simple search is basically saying, well, it's
the same ideology anyway. So then that's what Candice is saying. Right,
So she's quoting this Frank Turu. Let's see what she's saying.

Speaker 10 (01:52:17):
Harker than al. Take a listen to what Frank Turrek
said about NAR.

Speaker 12 (01:52:20):
So technically a group and NAR stands for what again,
I'm sorry, the New Apostolic Reformation. That's Bill Johnson out
there in California and northern California.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
We'll talk about him in a minute. But word of
Faith movement.

Speaker 12 (01:52:33):
They don't necessarily add, subtract, multiplier, divide.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
But they're hermeneutic.

Speaker 12 (01:52:40):
The way they interpret the scriptures is aberrant it and
they interpret the scriptures in such a way that their
practice follows this aberant theology that they have, and they
wind up doing things that are more new agy or
more even a cult like than they are.

Speaker 17 (01:53:00):
Like there was like the McCoy naval something Lance Wall
now differ.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Because I'm still trying to figure out the exact association
and connection according to what Candice is arguing. So she's saying, TPUSA,
let's hear this part again.

Speaker 17 (01:53:14):
You're in the United States Air Force Okay. Wall now
served under General Patten. After the war, he then continued
his adventures as a field engineer for Standard Oil Okay,
building high pressure liquid paine installations through.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
She is also onto something with the association between the
oil companies and evangelicalism. That's actually goes back a long
way back to Rockefeller himself who wanted to essentially create
his own church. Riverside Church was created by Standard Oil's
Rockefeller as his own pet social gospel church.

Speaker 17 (01:53:51):
How political revolutions in the world, so he would go
and do that in Haiti and Cuba, Dominican Republic, places
that I would argue that we cause a lot of drama.

Speaker 10 (01:54:00):
I'm just saying, so Lance fits the pattern well.

Speaker 17 (01:54:05):
And before I tell you how he is very connected
to Turning Point USA faith, I do want to also
be clear that Frank Turk stands out because he flat
out acknowledge on one of his podcasts that NAR was
a cult actually darker than a cult. Take a listen
to what Frank Turk said about NAR.

Speaker 12 (01:54:22):
So technically a group and NAR stands for what again,
I'm sorry, the New Apostolic Reformation. That's Bill Johnson out
there in California and northern California. We'll talk about him
in a minute. But word of faith movement they don't
necessarily add se.

Speaker 10 (01:54:38):
Right, this is kind of where this is going.

Speaker 17 (01:54:40):
Turning point faith everywhere that I'm investigating.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Okay, Turning point Faith is run by an NAR pastor?

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
Is that this?

Speaker 21 (01:54:50):
Dude?

Speaker 6 (01:55:02):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Who? Who is the pastor? Jack Wonder says, TPUSA is
run by in a R T USA faith. All right,
let's see who that is. I mean, come on, dude,
if y' all can't figure this stuff out, like, of
course this stuff is connected evangelical deep state gibberish. Duh mh,

(01:55:45):
this says Erica Kurt.

Speaker 5 (01:55:48):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Lucas Miles.

Speaker 17 (01:56:12):
Charlie began to become very interested in the Seven Mountain Mandate.
I would say, like he became mesmerized by the Seven
Mountain Mandate. He became friends with Lance.

Speaker 21 (01:56:21):
While now I'm going to tell you why she is
partially correct and what actually happened, because I worked at
TPUSA Faith and I actually got fired for bringing up
the connection we had to New Apostolic Reformation figures and
New Apostolic Reformation theology promoted by people like Sean Foyt Cheyn,

(01:56:42):
Lance Wallnow and others. Essentially, the Seven Mountain Mandate is
there's seven mountains of cultural influence that we as Christians
are supposed to take over. Some of that is political,
some of it's the arts and entertainment, some of its education.
And essentially this came from visions to tell us that

(01:57:03):
once we conquer these seven mountains, specifically in the United States,
he could usher in the Second Coming.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 17 (01:57:10):
Everywhere that I'm investigating turning point, Faith keeps coming up.
These characters keep coming up, and there's a pattern. I
do want to also be clear that Frank Turk stands
out because he flat out acknowledge on one of his
podcasts that Gnar was a cult.

Speaker 21 (01:57:26):
Again, the Seven Mountain Mandate is a false teaching promoted
by modern day Apostles, and some of those people and
major figures are Bethel's Bill Johnson, also Cheyon, who is
actually platform and promoted at a TPUSA Faith pastor summit
after I got fired warning them about the New Apostolic
Reformation and the Seven Mountain Mandate that's been promoted by

(01:57:50):
figures they're connected with.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
I actually talk to them about this specific video.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
We stand in the midst of the Seven Mountains.

Speaker 21 (01:58:00):
That's someone on stage during the Kingdom to the Capitol
tour where Sean Floyd was promoting the New Avasol Reformation
and specifically the sevenths.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
So for those of you that don't know, this is
a little bit of a rebrand of something that occurred
a long time ago. And this happened in the nineteen nineties,
eighties and nineties with Pat Robertson. And what happened was
and this is a very fascinating bunch of lore that

(01:58:31):
nobody today will know about except for very few people.
So basically, back in the eighties and nineties, you had
Greg Bonnson, you had Gary North, RJ. Rush Jouni, who
had a lot of good points. Obviously, I'm not a
reconstructionist anymore. I was a young, naive Calvinist reconstructionist as
a teenager and as a young man in the late

(01:58:54):
nineties and early two thousands. But so Gary North, who
was a endlessly prolific writer. I mean just wrote incessantly
tons and tons and tons of Christian reconstructionists, theanomic books
and commentaries. Right. So he wrote commentaries on Deuteronomy, Exodus, right, Leviticus,

(01:59:18):
and they were all about Theonomy, which was the application
of Biblical law to every area of life. Right, so
it stressed the Old Testament. One of the reasons that
I know the Old Testament very well was that I
was involved with these groups. And Gary North was a
committed Calvinist libertarian. So, for example, I'm sure everybody's familiar

(01:59:41):
with Lou Rockwell. This is one of the most famous
long time libertarian blogs out there for ever, right, probably
going back to the nineties. Lou Rockwell dot com, anti state,
anti war, pro market and there is a lot of
good articles that So I'm not trying to paint everything

(02:00:01):
as like everything's either good or bad, but this is
you know that sort of Roman Catholic and evangelical libertarian
ron paul Ish domain that was very popular in the
two thousands, right, A lot of people were reading Lou
Rockwell back then. I think Lou Roquoll is a trade cat, right,
and this would be adjacent to you know, people like

(02:00:23):
Tom Woods. So there's a lot of good, good people
in this I'm not dissing them all. But Gary North
was one of their longtime future writers for many years,
and Gary North does have some good books. I'm not
trying to hate on everybody, but the problem is that

(02:00:43):
this weird thing happened in the i want to say
the late eighties early nineties where somehow Pat Robertson got
a hold of Gary North stuff, and there was this
discussion where Gary North met and talked to Pat Robertson
was trying to convince him of reconstructionism and all this

(02:01:04):
kind and get him out of like the evangelical televangelist
scam that he obviously is right. But that didn't end
up happening. What ended up happening was Pat Robertson, who
by the way, owns Diamond Mind, so he was doing
like the Kenneth Copeland style megacorp approach way before Kenneth

(02:01:26):
Copeland was so pat Robertson instead took the ideas of
the dominion mandate of the Reconstructionists, which was simply that
if you're a Christian, you have the duty to christianize
every area of life. Right, So if you're going to
be a businessman, you should implement Biblical principles into your business.

(02:01:47):
If you're running for office, you need to try to
implement Biblical law. Now, another one of the characters that
is very close to and was involved in this sphere
of Gary North and rush you and is Doug Wilson.
So Christian nationalism comes out of the ideas of Gary North, R. J.

(02:02:07):
Rush Huni, Greg Boonson, p Andrew Sandlin who wrote a
book about Christian nationalism many many years ago. So I
was in these circles, I read all this stuff. The
only one I went to Bonson's seminary. And I'm trying
to think the only one of them that I've actually
met is Gentry in person. I don't think I've met
any the other ones. But the Christian nationalist Doug Wilson

(02:02:33):
stuff comes out of this if you don't know. But
what's funny is that the dominion mandate was taken up
by Pat Robertson back in these days, and he tried
to make his own charismatic version.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
Of this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
So what these nar goobers are doing is actually just
rehashing and repeating what was the pat Robertson's stolen from
Gary North idea.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
Dominion, the law of dominion. God is saying to come
back into the Kingdom of God. I want my servants
to exercise dominion. I want you to have Satan. I
want you to put him.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Under your feet.

Speaker 8 (02:03:23):
You are my agent on earth and I want you
to be in charge.

Speaker 3 (02:03:26):
I'm giving you a grant of dominion.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Now, the thing is is that when you read the
dominion mandate and when you understand Christian history, the fulfillment
is in the person of Christ. Is Christ, that is
the prophet, priest and king who has dominion, and the
reclamation of what was lost in Genesis is found in Christ.

(02:03:51):
Now in theory, the evangelical and the Calvinist reconstructionist would
actually agree with that phraseology where they all go crazy,
just like Doug Wilson, is that it is not a
dominion mandate, that is every individual patriarchal, dude or prophet woman.

(02:04:12):
The dominion mandate is the Church. The Church is the
fulfillment of the dominion mandate, going forth and conquering the nations.
So all the evangelical goobers think the Kingdom of God
is them christianizing every area of life. In the Orthodox perspective,
that's not necessarily false. But the problem is that it
is first and foremost the Orthodox Church that is and

(02:04:35):
has the dominion mandate. It is not evangelical conment. The
Kingdom of God is not you massively increasing your revenues.
That's what they think. For the Orthodox Church. The fulfillment
of the dominion mandate and all those things is the
expansion of the church. Now, it's true that the church

(02:05:00):
influences downstream of the church, the culture, right, so church
is first. Orthodox church is the church that trickles down
to influence the state. Hence, when the Roman Empire is christianized,
you eventually get by Theodosius and by Saint Justinian Christian law.
So they have a half truth, which is that there

(02:05:23):
is an influence of Christian law that influences the state.
The problem is that these people don't have the church,
so it's all inverted and lopsided to where the family,
the state, or the family being christianized that trickles down
from the church. The church is at the top, Orthodox

(02:05:44):
church that christianizes the state and the family and so forth.
Over a long time, when the majority of the people convert.
These people invert this because they don't have the church,
and it's the state and the family and the evangelical
corporate groups that think that they're the Kingdom of God,
christianizing everything. So it all results from an idolatrous replacing

(02:06:09):
of the church as the Kingdom of God with the
evangelical business church as the kingdom of God. Louis Streau,
are there any more tickets for the November event?

Speaker 16 (02:06:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
I'm sorry. Are both days ten hours long? Yes? So
it's sold out. You'll have to come next year. Sorry
about that.

Speaker 17 (02:06:42):
Stating turning point, Faith keeps coming up, These characters keep
coming up, and there's a pattern that I'm noticing that
a lot of these mainstream pastors and preachers actually come
from high ranking military families.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
Yes, that's because, as we pointed out, most of these
things end up being or not originally started, they eventually
end up being co opted as avenues of the Pentagon on,
the military industrial complex, corporate elites, et cetera. That's why
it's business church. We have our conference, bro, I don't

(02:07:20):
I mean, I'm not being mean. I don't know what
these other to retreats are. We're talking about my conference
at my church in Florida. This is the actual volume
of the Candice clip. It's too low. I don't know
why whoever recorded this. It's low volume. So it's not
I have the volume all the way up. It's the

(02:07:41):
actual recording itself as low volume. So there's that. I'm
trying to make sure I didn't miss any of the
things I wanted to hit. We talked about that. Oh,
by the way, here's a great clip that Westgate put
up about uh cobbalistic influences on Joseph Smith. So if

(02:08:09):
you didn't take a look at that, take a look
at that. That's pretty interesting. Faith learner ten dollars day.
Have you ever done a deep dive on the serpent seed?
I mean, I think we addressed it like five years ago.

(02:08:34):
We had some crazy woman calling one time. There was
this woman so there used to be this crazy chick
on Facebook, right, and she was all about the serpent
seed doctrine. I kid, you know, and she obsessively wanted
to debate me. And the reason I didn't is because
she believed that she was the reincarnation of Tesla. So

(02:08:58):
I was like, no, okay, you're absolutely an insane person.
CS sends ten dollars. What's up? CS, thank you so much.
Appreciate that I have close friends that are Kennites, which
is a I don't know what that is. That is
some kind of cult. Man. These evangelical cults are just

(02:09:22):
going absolutely insane. Remember all the people who believe that
the rapture was coming from TikTok. People are going absolutely insane. Yes,
she thought she was like reincarnated, tell us a woman.
This ship was crazy. Dude. Oh, you're saying they think

(02:09:45):
that they're the tribe man. Guys, the FEDS used the
Christian Identity cult for OKC. I mean, guys, come on,

(02:10:24):
so this is where this stuff leads you out in
the woods with some insane cult leader because you think
you're the lost tribes of Israel. And that's who was doing. Okay. See,
and there was this secret, tiny mustache man group run

(02:10:48):
by a talk show host called Alan Berg. Oh my gosh,
imagine believing this guy runs a real neo in group
that creates Eloheim City that supposedly ropes in Tim McVeigh

(02:11:29):
And I mean, I just feel sorry for people because
people will believe and get wrapped up in the dumbest
shit imaginable. And and this is what you get when
you you know you want to be alone, you want
to listen to crazy people, you pay the price. So

(02:11:52):
a lot of what we talk about people think, oh,
you're just you're just yapping on the internet. Well I
told people not to go to Charlottesville. I told you
that was a bad idea, and a lot of people
paid the price for not listening. So how many it does,
It's almost like it doesn't matter how many times we
get vindicated we're right about all this stuff, and I

(02:12:18):
still get like thousands of Twitter neo ends just going
crazy over that last Alex Jones episode. I mean, it's

(02:12:43):
just like, I don't know, dude. Sometimes you just you
just kind of sit and stare and you're you're just mystified,
Like how can everybody be so stupid? Like, I mean,
the same scripts run over and over and over with
these obviously fake fed groups, and then people believe this

(02:13:08):
stuff and they call in and I just have to think, like,
I know it's spiritual blindness, but people are just kind
of going crazy. I don't watch every episode of Sam Tripoli,

(02:13:33):
So if Sam Tripley has fallen for the serpency thing.
He's incorrect. But I don't have time to watch all
of the Sam Tripley episodes. I don't keep up with
other people's I don't. People just have no clue, Like
do you think that I just sit around watching podcasts
all day and then I just come on a podcast
and just yeah, like no, that's not what I do, Like,

(02:13:57):
oh my gosh. So all right, let's talk about do
you guys want to talk about all the stupid shit hokum?
You won't talk about old calendar of the true Orthodox? Well,
what just happened in Greece. How many times have we
told you that not only are megachurches great conduits for

(02:14:21):
espionage covert operations, I've also told you for many, many
years that schismatic groups, old calendarist groups are rife with
abuse and criminal operations, mind controlled retards and absolutely actually
mentally unstable people. And it's like, it doesn't matter how
many times I tell you guys this, people don't listen.

(02:14:43):
And they I think it's a lot of young guys
that don't have life experience as part of the problem.
Because this just came out today. This is from our
buddies over at Union of Orthodox journalists. Greek police have
arrested three self proclaimed priests. They're actually defraut priests who
are accused of trafficking coke and smuggling migrants in a

(02:15:04):
months long investigation in the Organized Crime Unit of Greece.
The rests are part of a wider operation that attain
eight suspects carried out of Athens on the island of Rhodes.
Among those taken into custy is a custody, a forty
six year old former clerk and social media influencer who's
a former model at television lifestyle commentator who was dismissed

(02:15:26):
by the Church of Greece. Despite being defrocked, he continues
to be a priest and archbishop of the Old Calendar Church.
Authorities say that his chapel was the headquarters of a
narcotics distribution operation. Guys, stop being so naive. When you
see crazy loon groups that are made up of five

(02:15:47):
people who say that they're the true church, you're probably
dealing with a cult. Cooks, croop, crooks, cooks and spooks.
The world of want during bishops, the world of Episcobai vagantes,
the world of the true schismatic keepers, of the true

(02:16:09):
flame Orthodox those are also the domains of kuks, spooks,
and krouks. And how many times have we said this.
I've been talking about this for like twenty years. It's
not just grifters. Yeah, there's grifters too, but they become

(02:16:31):
perfect vehicles for this. And in fact, Ortho Christian covered
this a long time ago in an article that we
have covered probably mentioned probably twenty times. Ukraine is a

(02:16:59):
perfect exams how the schismatics are being used by the
US government against the Orthodox Church. Guys, once you kind
of notice these sorts of patterns, this is not hard
to see or recognize, like this is everywhere. This is

(02:17:22):
a big part of history. Emperors in the ancient Church
wanted to use heresies. For example, arianism was very amenable
to the emperor. There were Aryan emperors that promoted arianism.
There were Iconoclast emperors that promoted iconiclasm. Was it just
because they were theology toirds? Ooh, they just cared about

(02:17:44):
the theology? No, no, no, think about this from the
Vantherish point of the state. If you're a king and
emperor and you want to control the church or a
church or your church in your nation, One way you
could do that is to say I'm going to support
the schism, and if I'm behind the schism, that will

(02:18:05):
ensure unity and I will control that faith in my dominion.
So emperors and kings quite often have loved schisms. It's
great for control. And the fact that the schismatic and
heterodox emperors never prevailed is an indicator that Orthodoxy is

(02:18:27):
the true church because it would have become eran or
would have become iconoclast. Now, obviously, yeah, there can be
infiltrators in Orthodoxy. Sure, We've been talking about that for many,
many years. You get the same thing with the CIA,
for example, creating the Orthodox Ukrainian Schismatic Church. You understand

(02:18:52):
that's on record, like it's public. The State Department, they
would tweet about how happy they were to have helped
to create the Schismatic Ukrainian Church, Like they brag about it.
And then I get people who attack me all day
on Twitter like that's a crazy conspiracy when they brag

(02:19:12):
on their own Twitter, Like people, how can everybody be
so dumb?

Speaker 4 (02:19:15):
Like what is.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
What is the major malfunction? What is the stumbling block?
What's the roadblock for you guys to understand this stuff.
And why is it that you know, we talk about
this for ten plus years, no one listens. I get
called names all day long. Half of the Orthodox world
absolutely hates me. Once my life ruined, they want me

(02:19:40):
to go away. Like even though everything I talk about
is true, I'm the bad guy it just like, I mean,
I know it makes sense spiritually speaking, because people are
in delusion and all this. But again, this is yet
another vindication right here. This is a vindication. But I'm

(02:20:02):
sure the twenty year old new convert, zealous furry who
just became Orthodox can tell us all about how the
world really works. I will bet you money that the
people that are, for example, teaching everybody Orthodoxy on their

(02:20:22):
Twitter profiles, I bet you many of them have never
finished a book. And that's the craziness of the world
that we're living, is that people who've never I mean
not even we're not even talking about like never been
to college. Like that's way too high of an expectation.
Not that I endorse college, but I'm just saying, like,

(02:20:42):
not only have they never written a college paper, I
bet you they've never finished a book, but they have
Twitter profiles teaching Orthodox theology one of them is just
admitted he's a furry and he's not even Orthodox, but
he claims to be Orthodox, and people will listen to
those people Like that's how crazy is Like people will

(02:21:05):
listen to absolutely insane, lunatic people and they have no discernment.
I'm like, so you deserve what you get. What you
deserve is what I'm trying to say. Like, if you
if that's who you listen to, you'll reap the rewards
of that business church. Y'all read it a business church.

(02:21:37):
What is the implication of the capital officer and her
being in a later We're we're recruited and promoted to
the CIA. Louis Luigi got shrooms ten dollars. What's the implication, Well,
the implication is that this was a honey t a

(02:22:00):
honeypot operation to essentially frame and make all of the
Conservatives look like they were engaging in a new nine
to eleven. That's exactly what they did. Like, what do
you mean, what was the implications of it? The implications
are that we are correct, Like I'm not trying to

(02:22:21):
be rude, Luigia.

Speaker 8 (02:22:22):
Just like.

Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
It's a fake flag event. Like that's the implications of it.
Mark Smith. The average Protestant believes that God is a
skydaddy and solo scriptura. All of this echoes into the
belief in all sorts of other nonsense. That's a good point, right,
So when your theology is retarded, you're gonna believe a

(02:22:45):
bunch of other retarded things. I think you're absolutely spot
on with that. Matt Burn five dollars, Jay, your videos
have me questioning my Protestant background. Can you tell me
me a beginner book about the Orthodox Faith? Yes, doctor
Clark Carlton, get his book that is a critique of Protestanism. Also,

(02:23:12):
do you know about James White and Jeff Durban. Yeah?

Speaker 19 (02:23:16):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
So you could just google Jade or Calvinism and you'll
get all my critiques of Calvinism. Or you could google
Ja Dyer Dale the Protestant debate Jay Dyer a debate
with Pedro. So those are some of the classic Protestant
debates that you would probably like. You know. Funny thing,
the first debate that we ever did on the candidate

(02:23:38):
of scripture was with a furry I kid you not.
And here's the crazy part. All people did was a
bitch about how I was mean. This is so crazy
to me, Like I debated a Calvinist furry. Yes, you
heard me right. The guy totally got demolished. But all

(02:24:00):
all the comments, we're just bitching about me being mean.
People are going absolutely insane. Luigi got shrooms. Ten dollars, Jay,
I'm a new viewer. I got you. I just wanted
to hear you elaborate on that. Yeah, I mean we've
talked for a long time about honey traps, honey pots, sexpionage,

(02:24:25):
entrapment operations. I think it was pretty obvious that that
was a fake, organized entrapment event. I said that the
whole time. Of course, all your crazy conspiracy. I mean,
we've been pretty much right about most things when it

(02:24:47):
comes to I would say, like the last fifteen years
of analysis, we've pretty much been correct. I mean there's
been a few things that I didn't get right, or
I was too conspiratory to this or that. One thing
that I didn't get right, like maybe fifteen years ago,
was I didn't know a lot about Islam, so I thought, oh,

(02:25:12):
you know, they're just framing Islam in the Big Nine event.
I wasn't pro Islam, never was pro Islam, but I
just didn't know enough about actual Islamic theology, the Qur'an,
all this stuff. And I've since definitely moved to be
way more anti Islamic than I was ten fifteen years ago,
now that I've debated all the top Muslims and I've

(02:25:32):
learned their whole nonsense. But that doesn't make me say, oh,
then there are no you know, CIA created al Qaeda
and all that. No, that's still true, right, So it's
just it's just more nuanced and sophisticated than I thought
ten to fifteen years ago, even though I'm still correct
about nine to eleven you were in Islam as phobe.

(02:25:56):
How could I be in islamo phobe when I'm actually
opposed to it on the basis of the actual teachings
of Islam. And that's why we debated all the top Muslims. So, Lulu,
you're happy to call in. You're welcome to call in,
and we can run through the Islamic dilemma, which most
of you people aren't even you don't even have the

(02:26:16):
IQ to even restate what the argument is. I feel
sorry for you, guys, but yeah, please explain to me
all you have to do here. The challenge to all
the Muslims from now on. Is all you have to
do for me to continue to interact with you is
simply accurately restate what my argument is. Oh that was
a joke. Shoot, I thought we had saw the Muslims
run away. So there's no more Muslims anymore. They just

(02:26:40):
they've all left. They don't I think once we've asked
them to restate an argument, and none of them can
actually do it. It's like, Okay, I think that I
think that that time is over. That's that chapter has closed. Guys.

(02:27:07):
Remember head on to chalk dot com. He's promo code
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c h o Q dot com. Uh yeah, I guess.
I mean you can assume people are being sarcastic or
they're just dumb like you. Like I, we're at the
we're at the point where it's just really hard to tell.
I can't tell what's satire and what's real. The reality

(02:27:31):
has become surreal, so we're in a surrealist world. So
who knows. I can't even tell what what is and
isn't real. Yeah, if something is, oh you're you're a
serial killer of phobe. You have an irrational fear of

(02:27:51):
serial killers. No, that's a legitimate fear, like if a
serial killer comes over. I'm not in a serial killer
of phobe, right because it's a rational fear, so exactly,
it's not a phobia if it's a rational fear. Exactly.

(02:28:14):
Remember to get ester Collywood three in the show description.
Heading over to the shop at Jason Olsills dot com.
Subscribe to Jason Olsens dot com. And I think I
want to do a movie stream? Should we do a
movie stream? Right after? You guys want to keep talking
about movies? I might go eat lunch and do it.
Do you want to talk about four movies that I

(02:28:37):
just saw? Jamie? Do you want to do a stream? Oh?
Did anybody see tron Ares, Begonia Eating and Black Phone? Yeah?
I haven't had lunch, bro, I'm been here live streaming

(02:28:58):
with y'all because I love you guys much. I skipped
lunch to be with you guys. You want more? Okay?
Who saw? I want to do Idessify by the way,
I do want to do it. I want to do
Assassination Bureau as well. You guys, Will you guys come
back for a movie stream? I'll do it because whenever
I do movie streams, half of y'all come to the

(02:29:20):
movie stream. So that makes me think nobody knows or
cares about movies anymore. So everybody hates movies, and movies
audiences are basically just cutting half or half of this
audience just doesn't give a shit about movies, and they
only want to talk about do you apologics the which
is fine with me, right, whatever you guys want to
talk about, I want to see. But Guna, I liked

(02:29:43):
all these movies. Actually, I thought all four of those
movies were actually pretty good. Now, tron Ares was retarded
and awesome at the same time, but the other movies
were all pretty good. Black Phones had some flaws. It
was kind of silly, but it was it was still enjoyable.

(02:30:05):
Well true to know us. Jay, I started a small
YouTube channel where I share spiritual advice I was given
to help deal with personal issues. Do you think that
kind of content would mislead people? I would just say,
consult with your spiritual father doctor Evo. Excuse me, doctor

(02:30:26):
doctor evil Doctor Evo. Our based Chad producer Man says,
thanks to every thanks for everything. Jay shout out to
all of the Pantecostals, shout out to doctor Evo. He
produced our awesome new cringe course song. Everybody go and
give him a follow. He's over here on Twitter and

(02:30:46):
he's on Instagram. Doctor Evo producer, he's right here. Y'all
need to give him a follow. If you need fat beats,
if you need some music work done, don't don't rely
on a bunch of this gay eye stuff. Don't don't

(02:31:07):
do this AI crap. Get on over here to doctor Evo,
the producer right there right because he's he's putting out
of gems like this.

Speaker 11 (02:31:17):
That's about charged some We're about to have an eye
shut church party and the baby that's what that's what.

Speaker 2 (02:31:25):
They call after party. I ever heard of the after party.

Speaker 6 (02:31:32):
It was.

Speaker 4 (02:31:42):
I put my key and.

Speaker 6 (02:31:54):
My fresh.

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
I put my key.

Speaker 4 (02:32:02):
Both get wrong. I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:32:06):
It's a freaking weekend. Maybe we about to have some chart.

Speaker 18 (02:32:11):
I was, I was.

Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
That's what they have charged right now? All right, I'll
tell you what. I'm in a good mood, so I
will be back in one hour. Guys, come back if
you want to do the movie stream. We will dissect
those four films. We will get into the esoteric symbolic elements.
We will get into the character arcs, the drama, allegory,

(02:32:52):
the symbolism, because all four films had a decent amount
of algorithm rization and symbolism. And let's see, last super
Chet was, Kevin says, for ten dollars nothing, Well, thank
you so much, Kevin, appreciate your support and your super Chet,
even if you are on that silent tip today. Gods

(02:33:15):
come back in an hour if you want, and we
will do a movie stream everybody

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