Episode 64: 2025 Third Base Prospect and Dynasty Rankings: Ranking in the Multiverse

It's Week 3 of the Ranking Season at The Dynasty Guru so we thought we'd rank the third basemen!
Chris and Drew preview the TDG Prospect and Dynasty Rankings for third base and give their take on some of the risers, fallers, and once again, Chris reveals how he ranks players in parallel universes. Be sure to check the full lists this week on TheDynastyGuru.com
And back by popular demand, the RIOT contest. This week there 's on, it's easy, you'll find it, and if you are first one to identify it we'll get you a free pass into the TDG Discord!
Timestamps:
7:10 Matt Shaw
10:40 Ronny Mauricio
14:45 Coby Mayo
18:38 Cam Collier
21:50 Jesus Made
24:45 Brady House
28:57 Brayden Taylor
32:30 Bryan Ramos
35:30 Gino Groover
39:30 Kyle Karros
41:50 Jhonny Severino
45:00 José Ramirez
48:10 Jazz Chisolm Jr.
50:05 Austin Riley
53:20 Royce Lewis
57:20 Josh Jung
1:00:40 Isaac Paredes
1:05:00 Miguel Vargas
1:08:50 Jose Téna

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time for Join the Ranks, a prospect focused podcast
of the Dynasty Grew Network, helping Dynasty managers win your
league's one player at the time. So settle in for
an hour of conversation and insightful analysis with your hosts,
Dynasty Grew senior writers Drew Klein and Chris Knock.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello, everybody here. We are recording a couple of days
later than usual, but that just means more days or
research to share. Right. My name is Drew Klein and
with me right on time as always as my co
host Chris Knock. Chris Big News. Unlike Charlie Blackman, your
contract allows you to go skiing, which you did last week,
or snowboarding? How was it?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You know it was snowboarding, so I stuck out one
up on Chasmer. It was a blast. It's a new
love of mine and it's really sunk. It steeth into me.
And if anyone gets the opportunity, go for it. Why not.
I didn't learn until I was almost forty years old myself,
So I think you're never too young, never too late

(01:00):
for now to quote the great sound Mound rocks the town.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
All right, So you're back, You're healthy, and ready to go,
Ready to rackt here, and this is our third positional
preview episode of the season, and appropriately it's Third Base week.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Boom.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's quality production films, so stuff just doesn't happen by
Actually we.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Did that on.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
All right. So just our weekly reminder. We're looking at
basically a three year dynasty ranking. Sometimes we emphasize year one,
other rankers kind of look a little bit more long term,
you know, it's inexact, but generally we're looking at, particularly
with our dynasty rankings, what's the three year impacted players
going to have in your roster. The TDG rankings for
third base are coming up this week. Eleven rankers doing

(01:48):
the overall, five, five of us doing the prospects. Ten
articles on the website this week, and when you go
to the website, you'll see a link where you can
join our discord for early previews of these. Our Discord
members have seen these rankings for a couple of weeks now,
and we've been having some great discussions about that, about
trade opportunities, the breaking news where the last few free

(02:08):
agents might sign and what that's going to mean for
your teams and everything else. So I hope you hope
you'll join us there and take part in the discussions,
and if not, just hit the website and read the
articles and you know a lot more of what we're
talking about today, kind of deeper look at some of
these players. You'll get that there as well. So last
week we did have two randomly insured of song titles

(02:32):
that I dropped on you guys. Nobody picked up on
the songs or the theme. It was ridiculous thoughts by
the cranberries and making it easy by the raspberries. The
theme being bands about berries.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
So we have themes with the Riot.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Now we had a theme last week. I don't know
it's going to happen a lot, but there's just a
couple of songs are in my head that week. I thought, hey,
want to put these together there, But no, I think
that's uh, that might be the end of the themes.
But nobody's playing anyway, so maybe when football is over

(03:13):
all right, So we're gonna we're gonna start. As we
have been talking about the prospect rankings, we're talking about
third base and Chris. I think one of the things
that we've talked about in the room, you and I
have talked about and it's going to come up again
next week. Is a lot of these players have eligibility
at multiple positions, so one hand, we try to rank
them if they're eligible at a position. So we'll hear

(03:35):
the names and then a little bit like Chris, how
much do you look at this player is more valuable
at second base than third So I'm gonna rank them
higher in the second base because of the pool there
than the third base, or you flat out here's what
these offensive stats are going to do to a fantasy lineup.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, that's a good question. So my positions, I try
to keep consistent with my overall ranks, so they're a
piece of the existing pie, so to speak. So I
wouldn't bump someone down necessarily or hop depending on just

(04:15):
the position. It's more of who they are as a
fantasy player and what value they make. That being said,
when I'm compiling my overall ranks, I look at someone
who will talk about today, who qualifies at second base
as well as third base, and I like him better
as a fantasy player at second base, but I still

(04:38):
give them good marks as a third baseman. And so
you know, it all evens out, I guess, so to speak.
But I would much rather have this player on my
team if he qualifies at second base going forward versus
third base.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay, yeah, that's what I kind of expected to hear.
And particularly when second base is in play, you know,
that's a position that can drap pof pretty fast, although
the third base isn't super strong either, So yeah, I
kind of look at the same I try to. The
deeper you go into the prospect list, the less I
take in position eligibility because you just don't know where

(05:13):
they're gonna end up, so probably what value are they
going to bring on a roster in the long term.
But the closer they are to the majors or when
we're ranking players who already in the majors, then kind
of if they're going to lose value at a position,
then it's just kind of hard to say for over
three years, this player is going to be a valuable
third base person, because if you're building a dynasty or

(05:34):
roster with the future in mind, you might not have
another third basement on coming up in a little bit.
And if they lose eligibility, you know, then you're on
the waiver wire or making the trade, you know, kind
of scram on the fill position. So not not a
really concrete answer, but I guess the closer they are
to being in the majors, the more that comes into
my mind about how strongly do I rank them to

(05:56):
position where I don't think they're going to be in
the long run.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
And flexibility is a boon to their value overall too.
So yeah, just an additional.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Point, yeah, exactly, exactly. In fact, I did the write
up for the third baseman for fifty and a few
names in there where like a Matt Veerling or Willie Castro.
One of the reasons you've got him is they have
outfield and third base or Castro's got like everything except catcher,
and so they're not league winners by themselves, but maybe

(06:30):
the kind of piece like good to having the bench
just because if somebody goes down, I can plug him
in at a few different places. But so you know,
let's talk about let's talk about the prospects. Tier one
is a short one, but I'm just gonna list it
separately first, so a couple of interesting names to talk
about there, and Tier two is pretty long, so I
think it deserves its own segment on our show. Tier

(06:52):
one was four players, Matt Shaw, Sebastian Walcott, Kobe Mayo,
and Ronnie Mauricio. I think we were fairly consistent. I
think we each had three of the four on our
individual lists. Matt Shot, everybody's talking about him, is is

(07:13):
he all that in the bag of chips? You know?
Is he going to be well what everybody wants him
to be? And he looks like he's gonna have the
job from day one and spring training at third base
for the Cubs.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You know, he's actually the one I was alluding to.
Hopefully I wasn't too obvious. I think he would bring
more to the game as a second baseman, although I
might be underselling the power. He did have a what
was that twenty one and thirty one last year between
the two high levels double A and triple A, So

(07:45):
you know, I'm probably underselling his power and speed eventual
major league output. But he's got what seems that they
cleared the pathway, they cleared the runway for him in
Chicago to be the opening day third basement. That's obviously
a good sign. So if he can be close to

(08:08):
a twenty twenty guy at third base and that there's
actually a lot of value there. You don't have an
often have a third basement who's giving you that kind
of steals, even double digits is rare from third basement.
So I do like him at third base. The more
I'm talking about him, I guess, I just I think

(08:28):
it would be much more tantalizing to have him eligible
at second base. As you said, there's less meat on
that bone, as we will talk about, I guess in
the upcoming episodes.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, I think it will be, but I just don't
know that that's going to happen. I just you're watching
the Cups build the roster. Looks like he's going to
settle in there, and it looks like that second base eligibility,
if he has it in your league, I'm not sure
how long he's going to keep it, right, Yeah, Yeah,
And we're trying to put it in the future. That can't tell,
But that's just the writing of the wall seems to

(09:00):
look at that. Yeah, he's got double digit percentage walk
grate you know, watched it, eleven twelve percent. Uh, his
contact rate in triple A last year was some like
eighty six eighty seven percent. I mean, he's got all
the tools and it had that great, great international tournament.
I know I talked about that a week ago when

(09:22):
he was really the star of the American team there. Uh,
I'm really high on him, and I think, you know,
a lot of guys come in and there's adsment period,
and there could very well be with him as well.
But you know, I think he's got the tools to
do really well and if we were you know, I
don't know if we're going to do Rookie of the
Year type predictions or not, but but he's going to
be on a lot of people short list for an

(09:43):
l Rookie the Year I think.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And the interesting thing is that he only had a
thirty five thirty six percent poll rate last year, and
he hit the ball under the ground in the forties
percent of the time. So it's it's you know, it's
not that at selling out for power that you often see.
So there definitely could be some adjustments, if you know,

(10:07):
and he could be a much more stable mid twenties
bat after he gets settled in the major leagues and
then you have power and speed, which that's a that
is a delicious combo.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, not like somebody we're gonna be talking about in
a half hour or so, who was made a trademark
of that at third base. The other name I want
to throw out from from these four, we talked about
Sebastanaball caught a lot last week and we're all high
on him. But Ronnie Mauricio, who first of all, you know,

(10:45):
for a listeners, we all debate people like, well, they
tell us he's going to play third base, so we
we kind of ranking him there on a promise almost
but and then a couple of weeks ago the Mets said,
not quite sure he'll be ready for the start of
spring training. Are we how long we get a hope
cast on here or or did he deserve it? Like

(11:10):
I'm just starting to get nervous. I think if I
had to say, who's the one in this list a
year from now, we're gonna go, oh, we were way
high on that one. I just feel like it's going
to be him, I think, because come back after two years,
even if he does come back healthy, he's gonna knock
the rust off.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, and he had a lot of rust so to speak,
to begin with. Right if for those who remember Ronney Mo,
he had a lot of swinging miss in his game.
He had a small cup of coffee about a month's
worth of games before in twenty three before tearing his
ACL in this Winter league, and he was striking out
at almost a thirty percent clip. It was two years

(11:48):
younger at the time, so and he was He wasn't
exactly rushed through the minor leagues either, although I think
the COVID off. I think the COVID season impacted a
lot of those people who are players who are coming
through at the time, and that especially if you're the
raw talent like Ronnie Well, that's not going to help
you out. Losing that development here and then losing it

(12:10):
again with a torn ACL. Yeah, there was rumors early
in the fall that he had reinjured it and he
was going to be delayed, and then yeah, they confirmed that.
The Mets confirmed that a few weeks back. I think
he's worth hope casting for. I mean, if he's healthy,
he's put together twenty twenty seasons in the minor leagues,

(12:34):
so he's not going to cost a lot. Likely. Is
he a top two hundred prospect. Not by everyone. We're
as a group higher on him, and I think that's
valid and I agree with that. But you're probably going
to find out lets or league mates who are not
anywhere remotely as high as us, and I think he's
a good opportunity, a good gamble at this point. As

(12:55):
you mentioned third base, speaking of clearing the runways, it's
not his officially, but if Polar Bear isn't coming back,
which has also been all but official, the Antos will
unlikely move to first, and then you have either third
base or second base for both Running Mow and Brett Battye,

(13:18):
so as potential starting spots for those two. So I
think I place a wager on Running Mo.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, I'm nervous. I'm not sure I would if I
if I have him on a roster, which I do not.
I don't believe, I don't. I'd been flowing around to
see if anybody's excited about it, or if i'd have
Mets fan in the league or something like that. Who
would you know, give something the value? But if the
value wasn't there, wouldn't be crushed. If I had to
hold on to him, he's definitely not somebody would cut

(13:49):
or anything like that. So too low, But I'm not.
I just I just worry. You know, twenty three years old,
he's still still a young guy, and the certain skills
you don't lose. But it's just been a long time
since he's really been playing. You missed, you know, like
season and a half there. So hopefully rooting for the guy,
of course, but really really nervous about what you're going

(14:12):
to get with that. And then Kobe Mayo was in
our top four. I had him right outside at five
because you had him at two. I love the power,
I love the guy. I don't know where the opportunity
is going to come, you know with Baltimore, if they're

(14:35):
going to do something. I mean, I don't know if
they've got an outfield spot that somebody can move to,
or or where the playing time is going to come.
And so that makes me think of and I think
you said I know you said this. I think you
were talking about Delos Santos at the time about a
year ago. You watch what an organization does with a

(14:55):
player and take from that as well, and they're not
one out of the way to make room for him.
Was he going to keeping the odd man out? And
then does that tell you when the things that play
into the rankings at all? And with you obviously it doesn't.
What are your thoughts about that?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I do, Yeah, I do like to understand and appreciate
what the teams are doing and speaking to continue my
clearing the runway. The uh, the Olas are not doing
that or did not do that for Mayo last year.
I think part of that was where the team was

(15:35):
in that part of the season. He got called up
at the beginning of August. He was on the major
league roster for the final two months, and he appeared
in seventeen games in two months. He did not light
the league on fire when he first got called up.
I think it took him a week to get his
first hit and then it took him another week to

(15:57):
get another hit. Basically, or almost a month, I guess
because of how many games he wasn't appearing in. Basically,
I think it was a sweat instead saying swim and swimmer,
sinker swim. Yeah, there we go. That's a snowboarder brain
for you. Singer swim, Kobe Mayo. And unfortunately, I think

(16:20):
he just you know, did not swim. I don't think
he sank though, and the power is still there. Uh,
the Orioles are not. They still have the same roster,
so I think he'll still get chances this year. He
probably has things to work on that they identified with
that swing, with his swing, and I'm not losing hope

(16:44):
on him. He still has that talent. It was just
way too small a sample size, I think to judge anything.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Mm hmm. Yeah. I remember a year ago there was
a lot of talk on h on Twitter and some
other some other analysts thinking that Westburg was going to
be the one traded to make room for Mayo. And
it turns out Westburg kind of made himself untradable, but
playing so well, Uh, you know, when he got the
chance so.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well he got he got the opportunity to play second base,
right and yeah, uh and therefore was called up earlier
in the season when it wasn't playoff crunch time. So
I think, you know, in the whole there's the multiverse
theory here, Kobe Mayo succeeded many many times outside of

(17:33):
our reality. Uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and
just run with that as my belief.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
No fair, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Versus I don't. I don't rank everyone based on their
multiverse talents. But Kobe Mayo, he transcends our known.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Realities enjoying the ranks, goes to the fourth dimension.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
All right, sorry, no, I am of sound mind. I
promise everyone else.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Sure you do. I'm going to go to the second
tier here where we have ten names Jesus my Day,
Charlie Condon, Cam Smith or Elvis Martinez, Cam Collier, Eric Betonte,
Brady House, Jace Young, Braden Taylor, and Brandon Winnaker Grass.

(18:29):
Who jumps out there for you? What do you want
to talk about?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, oh, who jumps out? There are a lot of
names here, you know, Cam Collier. I think that's an
interesting one because is this his third year? I'm going
off at the top of my head here, I think
this will be his third professional year, or at least
second fall. I'm sorry, I'm trying to pull him up
quickly here. See when he was drafted.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, he's drafted in the twenty twenty two draft. Yeah
for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Okay, so entry last year, I think there was a
collective like low on him, and he was you know,
his first full year was not what everyone dreamed and
hoped of. But then last year when everyone was sleeping
on him, he really performed as expected. And now he's
back where we thought he would be after his draft season.

(19:22):
He's a really unique story I think with him applying
early for the draft, I think he went to community
college somehow in the whole thing. But he's he's got
the power, and I mean, when you're hitting twenty home

(19:42):
runs in high A as a nineteen year old, keeping
that swinging strike strike right, that's the other thing that
catches me here. So when I look at the k
rate and right, twenty five percent, that's unfortunately reasonable in
this day and age, but it's not you know, it's
not great, but his swinging strike rate on Vangrass here

(20:02):
is not even eleven percent, and anything above fifteen is
eye catching. So I think that's more a sign of passivity,
passivity for him with his thirteen percent walk rate, meaning
I'm not too concerned about that k rate overall. I
think it's something that he's going to be able to
keep in check and while he continues to be a

(20:25):
power threat and an on base threat. So Kim Callier,
I think, is one to keep rising and is probably
not long for a second tier.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, hard to argue with that. I know I had
him a little bit lower, and this is just a
kind of a weird tiers was I was ranking and
didn't know what to make of that, like say that
that depression in the first year, and he's so young,
it's almost like, all right, that's going to be on
the list for a while. So I know he's going
to be in the top tier when we're doing this

(20:58):
next year. So I'm not down down to him by
any means. And and you know, I actually know I
have him rostered in a few places, so kind of
crossing my figure fingers and hoping it does come around.
But you know, first round or high s signing bonus
and you know, the redsurant of situation where they can
be patient I think right now with with some of
their prospects, and and they've done a pretty good job

(21:20):
of developing others. So no, I think I think there's
a lot of a lot of optimism there and show
me that the people should be should be rostering. So
what do you know about he's my dad?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Beyond what we were talking last week was it was
what were we talking about him?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I thought his name came up, but we didn't go
in depth.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, sorry, it's all good, Yeah, we can talk
some more. I mean, he's he's one of the reasons
I don't go too crazy in my deep leagues with
international J fifteen types and reach for some of them
because he's one who I'm pretty sure went undrafted in
most fypds, even the deep ones. He appears if you

(22:11):
were to pull him up on Fangraphs, you won't be
too impressed by his scout tools until that gets updated,
because he's looking every bit the part of a five
tool left side of the infield stud I see him
getting traded as a top fifty dynasty sorry, top fifty
prospect right now, even higher by some he tore up

(22:35):
the DSL. I know we had some conversation about swinging
strike rates there what Chris Clegg's data versus fangrafts data.
I only saw that in passing, so maybe you're able
to speak to a better But basically, if you're looking
at his fangraphs data, it's going to undersell him from
his advanced stat cast stats. But power speed, batty and

(23:03):
I I mean, this is Chuck Jack Jack. And we
know that Milwaukee doesn't fly their studs through their minor leagues,
but they definitely don't hold them back. I mean, Churio
was a major leaguer by the time he was twenty,
so not quite comparing Maday to him, but it could

(23:27):
be that quick of an ascension for him if it
continues to click.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Okay, yeah, I think the conversation about the data is
with the Dominican Summer League, and I don't have it
right in front of me, but basically they don't. Some
of the data comes out per at that, not per pitch,
so it may show that the player is swinging more
or less than they actually are if you go per pitch,

(23:53):
So you can't take it with a grain of salt.
The other thing I heard about the Dominican leagues is
I think it was Rod Allen said this trin he
was calling one of the games in the Caribbean series.
Is we're talking about the pace of the game, and
the Dominican players weren't. We're not going deep into counts,
and he says, go down there. They say, you don't

(24:13):
walk off the island. So they come up swinging in
the bat, which is just a great quote, and I
get it. So so that between coaching and whether they're
looking at that batch of pitches, things change so much
once they once they come uh you know, into the
complex and into to low a ball. So you just

(24:34):
gotta be kind of careful what you look at there. So, yeah,
sorry about the repetition about that.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
No, it's okay, it's all right.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So and then a player who this is Brady House
is in the second tier.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I was hoping we talk about him.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I went low on him, and and you know, folks,
rankers are humans too. I was so high on him
when he got drafted. I still have him right so
many leagues, and I just like started to feel a
little bit, you know, a little bit prospectory with him,
especially when Washington's kind of bringing people in and then

(25:10):
there's there's excellent players above him. And then so we're
talking to the chat and like, you know, what are
you guys looking at? And so he says, well, jeez,
he's only twenty one in high AI, and his power
came back. I'm like, he's only twenty one. You know,
I would have thought he was twenty three if I
hadn't looked him up. This isn't a big difference, but
it's going to a big difference playing at that level.

(25:31):
So yeah, I was probably low on him. Not probably,
I was low on him. And you know, as we
kind of fine tune this going down the road in
mid you know midyear whatever I expect, he's going to
be higher. But you hadn't given up the given up,
the giving up the house on him. I almost said,
you hadn't given up hope on house yet, Chris. So

(25:53):
what are you? What are you putting in there?

Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, I'm not burning down the house yet. There's my riot. No,
I think he is a slow burn. We'll keep with that.
And he's marching through the minor leagues year after year.
His strikeout rate is concerning, not going to put that aside,

(26:19):
and he has that mid twenties strikeout with the mid
teens swinging strike rate, that's cautionary region. In my eyes,
he still makes decent contact where I think the power
is going to happen and where I think or why
I think the power is going to happen, and why
I'm not too concerned with the strikeout rate is that

(26:42):
currently he is again someone like Matt Shaw mid thirties
pole rate, mid forties ground ball rate. He's got some
ability still to help fine tune and lift and pull
that and really let that raw power show. That being said,

(27:02):
because he's got the swinging that hole in his swinging here,
he doesn't have quite as much wiggle room, So I
don't want to neglect those flags, but I think he's
someone who if you also look at his stats here,

(27:22):
after a year, he gets called up at the second
half of a year to a new level, he struggles,
the start of the next year, he repeats that level,
and he has success. And I think that's just what
we're seeing here, is someone who's a hard worker and
keeps making the adjustments that are necessary for success at
that level and then moving as the ORG deems him ready.

(27:45):
He is a slow burn. He's someone who I think
should be acquireable in most leagues unless the person who
rosters him is a house fan like myself. But I
think he's probably got a decent cost associated with him
to help fill out your roster if you have some
third base needs in the near future. That being said,

(28:08):
he might not get as much of a cup of
coffee this year, and the player blocking him is someone
I want to talk about when we talk on major leagues,
And so depending on the success there his his opportunity
in Washington might not be as quickly as some of
us fans hope.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, and this defense is going to keep him at
third base. He plays a good third base.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, he was originally drafted as a shortstop. But he's
a big dude.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
And Brady, if you're listening, it's okay to take a walk. Yeah,
his walkrates like percent. Know, if you see your pitch,
you want to swing at your pitch, and especially power hitters,
when they see the one they want, they see the cookie,
they're going to swing at it. But you'd like to
see a little more patients of the plate, especially like
us we're looking at OBP leagues. Now, we did not

(28:57):
talk about Braden Taylor last week, who's splits his time
between third base and shortstop, and he's in the Tampa system.
He was the first round pick in twenty twenty three
and nineteenth overall pick, so not that not top ten pick,
but again a little bit overlooked, you know, and he

(29:22):
over two stops and minors last year put up a
twenty twenty season two fifty batting average, three sixty five
OBP and the and the four ninety three slug You know,
does walk strikeout rates have been kind of highest some
levels and coming they're higher than the than they should be.
A high twenties. Uh So, I was thirty thirty six

(29:44):
for out of the third of the year in triple
A double A last year rather but I like the
kind of the evenness of the of the scouting grades.
You know, average hital hit tool, slightly above average power,
slightly above average speed, and a future grade seventy for field.
So uh, you know, he's gonna he's got the tools.

(30:04):
In Tampa. As much as they I don't know what
they're doing, they keep that they signed Kim you know,
but and then well they kind of I don't know
how they have holes in the infield, but they do.
They've got a lot of people in the system. They
move them around a lot. They're also not afraid to
trade a player, So you know, Braden Taylor could very
well make his major deb in a totally different organization.

(30:27):
I don't think we're necessarily doing him a disservice, but
by having him like he's in our second tier, the
bottom of our second tier. But I just would say
that to listeners, keep an eye on. To me, he
might be the kind of name that gets overlooked, you know,
the Tampa prospects if you're not the superstar. Sometimes they
just feel like they're gonna get kind of lost in
the crowd there. But I think braidon Taylor is if

(30:50):
you can say this about second tier, some of it
might get overlooked and to keep an eye on.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, he did what he should have done as a
college bat and away. Then he was very successful in
his first year, first half of his first full year
in High A, and I think he kind of just
slowed down a little bit in Double A, which isn't
necessarily any warning sign of itself. He still had an

(31:19):
above average year offensively at Double A as a twenty
two year old. So yeah, I think, as you said,
he's got some tools, he's got a good floor as well,
and yeah, he does take a walk, So I think
the rays will maximize his ability and he'll probably be
starting or at least a strong side of the blutoon type.

(31:42):
I think in there never ending rotations.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Anybody else in this group you want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
You know, I think I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
And then our third tier, which I think will be
the last tear we talked about when starts with Brock Wilkin,
then Gino, Mike Bove, Sal Stewart, Cale Fountain, Tommy White, Davison,
Dalos Santos, Caleb Durban, Bryce Matthews, Handy Morales, Brian Ramos,
Chase Midroth, and Luke Adams. So kind of a big

(32:16):
tier there. I know when we were talking about it,
we talked about should it be smaller, and I thought
I just didn't know where the line would be. So
it's kind of a they all kind of fit together.
But what do you think of the tier or anybody really
want to pull out?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
You know, I think Brian Ramos kind of got the
short end of the stick last year. He was consistently
a teens to twenties home run hitter throughout the miners,
good slug, good every stop, basically in the four hundreds.

(32:50):
He just has been under the radar over and over
and over, and I think he's got the opportunity to
start this year. I'm checking and raster resource. I don't
know if the White Sox signing anyone to Hans Vargas
is going to be there. Who do they have? They
have Josh Rojas, Oh my goodness. So yeah, so we'll

(33:13):
see how long that lasts. It looks like they have
roster resources. Thinking he's going to start in triple A,
so which is fine, another more buying opportunity for him
in my opinion, but he could be some sneaky power
and someone to definitely look in some of your He's
probably available in a large percentage of leagues, So.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I agree on Chris. I hadn't circle notes. I wanted
to talk about him. I think it was higher in
the group, and actually wrote about him, uh for the
site in our our overall rankings, using that forty one
to fifty range. Go get him, make an offer, pick
him up off the waiver wire. The he does not
chase very much. The zone contact rates are good. He

(33:59):
hits the all hard. You know, I look at the
metrics from last year and it just doesn't He must
have got incredibly unlucky with a Babbitt two twenty seven.
He is very unlucky babbit, and you know, throughout his
career mostly he's like right at maybe it's just shade
above above three hundred. So you know, do not be
fooled by that two oh two batting average, two fifty

(34:22):
two on base average last year. That's not who he is.
It's not who he's going to be as a major
league hitter Chicago, first of all. But I don't know,
you know, we talked about it with a few different players,
what was going on in the clubhouse, what was going
on in that system. And we talk about Vargas later
on as well. But I think that Brian rohat Ramos

(34:44):
is a player that I'm trying I have rostered on
some I'm trying to roster in other places. Could always
be wrong, could always be wrong, right, But I just
think that the reasons that we liked him as a
prospect coming up in the Power and everything we saw
are still there, are still valid. Then it's twenty two
years old. He's twenty two years old playing in the

(35:05):
major leagues on a team that had to be just
down all the time, you know, and that's just not
going to be a recipe for success. So, yeah, I'm
glad you brought him up because I was anxious to
talk about him as well. Is she really anxious? One
I was most prepared for.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I actually thought you were going to go with a
Geno Groover.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
That is the other one I highlighted there.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
We so let's here, Well, let's hear this.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, let's talk about the Gino Gruover who got the
invite to uh yeah, which is which is nice. And
he's got a little bit of above average speed he's
got above average hit tool, and he's performed well through
the through the minors. He hit well the ten home

(35:53):
runs last year, but the two anyone batting average in
A three sixty seven on base it high A and
double A. I don't expect he'll he'll break with a team,
but I love that he's going to get the experience
in spring training twenty two years old. He's a second
round draft pick in the twenty twenty three draft. You
know what I like about you know, Gruver is you know,

(36:16):
the contact skills are very strong. He puts the bat
on the ball, he puts it into play, and the
ground ball rates a little bit under, a little bit
under fifty percent, so you know, you wantline drives, and
if you're hitting the ball hard, you want to fly
balls as well. So if you can keep that ground
ball rate down, because there's a little bit higher early

(36:38):
in his career, but if you can keep the loft
in the game and keep making the kind of contact,
you know, I think he's going to be, you know,
a valuable player and a valuable fantasy tool. So yeah,
I like that. I like that he's getting the notice
right now that I think you and I were talking
about him, you know, two thirds of the way through
last season and doing the offseason, seeing a lot of

(36:59):
buzz there and glad to see the Diamondbacks are kind
of taking that hard look at him.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, he you know. And the other thing that power
is the quote unquote lack of power that he had
last year is a bit misleading because he started off
with a broken rest and so that SAP's power. He's
another good one, I think to get here when you
have a strong hit tool and with someone who could

(37:28):
have some sneaky pop, you know, he's definitely got the
frame to add some strength to But I'm a little
afraid of Alec boem vibes here. But you know, he's
a capable third basement who's had a long career and
will continue to play in the major league. So that's
not like that big of a knock, But from fantasy perspective,

(37:51):
you know, that's somewhat of a concern. But he's definitely
if this power does click here or continues to look
like it started to at the end of the year
last year, he's gonna he's gonna pop too.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
All right, Ready to talk about a sneaky deep Let's
do it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I'll let you go first, though.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Okay, I will go first. Quick worried about it. We
got asked after last week's episode, you know, what do
we define? Is that? What kind of leagues are we
talking about? And sometimes you get a little obscure with these,
and I think it depends on the depth of the
position or kind of pitches or outfielders. Sometimes you're looking
really deep and maybe not so much like the player
I have picked out today isn't really you know, that

(38:32):
deep at all, but he's you know, outside of our
consensus top fifty, although he's inside of my personal one,
you know, And we're looking at the kind of player
where in a twelve team league you're probably putting them
on a watch list, twenty team league, thirty team league,
depending how many spots you have. You know, maybe you're
stashing them, you know, on your reserve list, your prospect list,

(38:53):
and high risk CAYB reward kind of players. So you know,
these aren't necessarily you know, the players are what do
you think is going to be the super star right
off the bat. But we see something that maybe you know,
we haven't heard other people talking about, or you know,
maybe it's just a matter of time before before they
get there. But so that's where we're kind of looking
at when we think of the sneaky deep, and you know,

(39:16):
we're not trying to stump each other, although it's fun
when I do, but we're looking at it. So you know,
I had my player, So part of it is sneaky deep.
I mean he's outside of our top fifty, outside of
our top yeah, outside of our top fifty consensus is

(39:37):
Kyle Carros who plays in the Colorado system. Kyle Carros
was a fifth round pick in twenty twenty three and
he is going to be twenty two years old this year.
So he played high at AY as a twenty one
year old. It's about right, you know, for the age
to level, especially for somebody coming out of college. He
went to UCLA and he had fifteen home run and

(40:00):
twelve stolen bases. So if there's some growth in both
those areas, probably a potential for a twenty to fifteen
kind of player. Very good walk rate ten percent high
last year, fourteen percent of the minors a year before.
So he's got the OVP you know that we're looking
for in the leagues. The years I can tell from

(40:24):
the limited stats we have plays a solid third base.
I don't think his fielding is going to get in
the way of him playing in that position or moving
up kind of the old prototypical third base. And what
are you looking for? I'm looking for power and if
the on base is there, you know that's good too.

(40:44):
I think that we talk about Josier Ramierson a little bit.
You know, he didn't spoil us by expecting stolen bases
out of a third base position. But I think Kerels
is going to give you a few. So I was,
you know, we're always surprised when our peers don't rank
somebody's high as we do, but I was really surprised
you can get a little bit more love in our rankings.

(41:05):
And so for that, I'm gonna say I can call
them sneaky deep because, like I say, some people who
say prospect News like us didn't really have ranked that highly.
So if you're in a twenty or thirteen league, pretty
good chance he's available for you there. And like saying
the twelve year twelve team league, a great guy to

(41:25):
having a watch list.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, And I was pulling up both mister Carros and
my name here, and they're both rostered in thirteen percent
of fan tracks leagues, which yeah, I don't think that
defines them as too deep, but just to give a
little more objective perspective of where they're at and my person,

(41:50):
Johnny Severino of the Pittsburgh Pirates actually was a couple
of spots in our consensus above your name there. We
had them at thirty one overall. Johnny, he was a
nineteen year old last year played between the complex and
low A Ball. He tore up the complex and through midsummer.

(42:13):
I remember that. I do remember our conversation last week
also where we talked where it dawned on me again
that complex starts in May, so by the time the
summer was rolling around, he was becoming, I think, a
pretty hot name. He struggled on his promotion to low A,
and I say struggle in air quotes. He was. He
was swinging at everything, trying to continue that hot streak,

(42:35):
I think, and his krier went from sixteen percent in
the complex to thirty per doubled almost in a low way,
to thirty percent. He's I don't want to he's he's
got room for his frame so that power could continue
to grow. He's kind of a fifty fifty speed sixty

(43:02):
power currently fangraphs. I don't know if that speed will
stay if he does fill out, but he did steal
overall sixteen bases last year. I had a sixteen sixteen line.
He's the kind of guy who, when you're looking this deep,
I think, in probably anything shallower than I had two

(43:26):
one hundred and fifty prospects, he should be watch listed.
But I don't know. I just have this feeling that
he is going to be one that once he gets this,
if he can get this k rate, if the swinging
strikes down, if he can help, if the pirates can
help fine tune that swing, this kid can pop his

(43:47):
way through the minor leagues here and hopefully be up
at Pittsburgh battling Cabrian Hayes in short order, which.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Is now a high bar, no unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, what
just goes show you he was a pretty highly ranked
prospect at one time. So, yeah, you want to be
the smartest kid in your draft room. Uh, it's Kyle
Carrols and Johnny Severino are the sneaky deeps for us
right now? Ye all right, let's take a look at

(44:17):
our overall dynasty rankings, shall we that's all right? Our
top ten for third base Jose Ramirez, Raphael Devers Junior, Kemenaro,
Austin Riley, Dash Chisholm Junior, Manny Machado, Royce Lewis, Mark Bientos,

(44:40):
Matt Shaw, and Jordan Westburg. So very consistent group, especially
at the very top. I love the junior if you
haven't seen it, and everybody has now the Camanio home.
I actually had turned that game on. He's on MLB

(45:01):
with the Spanish announcer, and that was really an exciting
Oh he's alive. I did, I did. I was just
uh again with Baseball Nerd and some that's on, and
so I turned on like six or seventh inning and
uh yeah, I went back and forth with those those innings.
So there's the tension was piling up. And to be fair,

(45:24):
you know, so he's he's our third ranked third baseman
and it was the other team's you know, fifth pitcher
in the Dominican Winner League. So it was a meatball.
You know, it was a picture came there, should hit
out of the park, but to break the scoreboard throw
a bat into orbit? Uh and to take fifty five

(45:46):
seconds too of the bases. That's you don't see that
every day anyhow.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I thought he broke a minute. But yeah, nonetheless, well
he got mugged on at all every basement.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
But yeah, second, I love the two guys pointing at
home play with series. Basically, please just touch the first
touch it. So Jose Ramire, at least between you and
I are consensus number one. Again. He just keeps doing it,

(46:17):
I know, and he keeps stealing bases. Uh So, So
that's the question I want to ask. I know, just
teached that a little bit. Has he spoiled us? Are
we looking for stolen bases out of the third base
position or are we going to get back to you know,
give me a Mike Schmick kind of guy who's just
going to hit ball, hit home runs for me.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I mean, yeah, he spoils you when he's the quietest
close to forty forty season, you can really have other
than you know, him and Kyle Tucker in twenty three
in his almost thirty thirty, those are crickets around those
things anyway. Yeah, I mean, as much as I have

(46:57):
a love hate relationship with Roster and Joseres, you know,
he is the top dog and there's no question about it.
And when those stolen bases start decreasing, he seems like
he's going to be just that pitbull type who's going
to still be clover and home runs and still giving
you plenty of fantasy value. So I'm not too worried

(47:23):
about him just being one of those walking off the
edge into the cravas of value.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, and you know, just looking real quick. In twenty
nineteen he had five hundred and forty played appearances. That's
aside from twenty twenty season. That's the only year he's
had less than six hundred going back till twenty sixteen.
He plays. Every day he's out there, he produces. He's

(47:50):
only thirty one years old. He's in great shape, firmly
entrenched at number one. And if you got him, you're
holding him, and if you don't, you're not going to
get him. And then uh jazz chisholm uh bouncing around
in there. A lot of talk about about jazz, both

(48:13):
in our room and and and out there. He's probably
gonna lose third base eligibility by the way you talk
about people in position now, he's gonna move over to
second base, is the last I heard but you you
had him, You had him higher than most. You had
him your number two, ahead of Devers and Riley and Junior.

(48:34):
So I think we all like Jazz, but you like
him a little bit more. Maybe what do you what
do you see?

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Well, it's again that that's stolen bass profile. Throwing in
the fact that he can hit twenty plus homers and
he's third base eligible. That's that's pretty nice combination, man,
throw it. And additionally that he's batting in the Yankee
Stadium in the beginning and top end of that lineup.

(49:05):
You know, he's a left handed batter, so he's got
the short porch there. As long as he stays healthy,
he's gonna be amazing. And obviously health is not predictable.
But he pulled it off for the better part of
last year and he can do it. So yeah, Jazz

(49:29):
speaking a long home run trucks, you know, the euro
step at the end.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
He's gotta love that.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
He's he's a flashy, fun guy.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
If you asked me, Yeah, I love him too. And
and I know, I know he's not everybody's cup of tea,
but uh, and I think that New York is a
perfect spot for him for a lot of reasons. You know,
he loves the limelight. He's not gonna not gonna be
bothered by the attention or anything. And that's a great
lineup for for him to be in, in a great
park for him to be playing in. So I don't agree.

(50:00):
Austin Riley continues to be ranked highly, and I think
he should have had him rked highly myself. But is
twenty twenty four just a blip? I mean, I don't
know that we know a lot about I know we
had the hand injury at the end of the season.
That don't know how much that bothered him for the
whole year. I know that fantasy owners early on were

(50:24):
really disappointed with those you know, I ended up in
nineteen home runs for the whole year, so kind of
kind of sunk a few fantasy teams. And I say
that as the manager of one of those teams. But
I just look at the year's of productivity leading up
to it. So I'm you know, I'm buying the bounce back,

(50:45):
but I also bought Tim Anderson's bounce back that never happened.
So Austin rileyes, you know Tim Anderson, but are you
buying the bounce back.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yeah, I am going to buy the bounce back because
you mentioned nineteen home runs, but that was only in
one hundred and ten games, and I think, you know,
that's a large enough sample where you can extrapolate that
decently and that ends up being mid twenties home runs
if he was to play his usual one hundred and
fifty plus games. He's been pretty much an iron horse

(51:16):
other than the end of last year. So, yes, twenty
five is not thirty what was it, thirty seven, thirty
eight the last two years it is, you know, shy
of that, so it's not the same, But everything else
seems to kind of be in the line right when
you look at his year over year, So I'm not

(51:41):
entirely certain if it was an injury that was nagging
him overall, but I'm not I buy, I buy.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, And there had to be some luck involved in
as well, because his hard hit rate was the highest
of his career, yeah, a fifty three. The barrel rate
was as well, and he was still hitting forty three
percent fly balls. You know. The ground ball rate actually
went down from the year before, and it was kind
of one of his lower ground ball rates, so it

(52:16):
wasn't as though that had changed drastically, you know, a
few more line drives, you know, so those generally fallen
when they hit that hard, but you know, it could
have been where they were going. And and and the
underlying metrics show that there was some bad luck in
terms of the overall productivity. I don't see any red
flags other than kind of what the end production was

(52:36):
and the bit of the injury bug. But you know,
that whole team had a yeah, totally different injuries, but
a whole lot of them. Yeah, and yet made the playoffs.
So you know, I think the attitude there, I think
the sport is there, I think. And so he's still
gonna be playing in a good lineup, still gonna get
plenty of opportunities. They're still gonna have to pitch to

(52:56):
him because he's around him in the lineup. So I'm
buying I think, you know, I don't think that year
deserves him to be, you know, dropped out of the
you know, the top five by any means. So I'm
kind of glad we were able to kind of keep
him where he was. And then can we talk about
throw back to you if you had anybody else? Can
we talk about Royce Lewis.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I was just gonna mention, so yes, let's talk about
what were you going to say, Well, that he is
a ball of confusion. I know that's not anything revolutionary,
but I mean he was finally looking healthy at the
start of last year and was looking otherworldly like we

(53:35):
all wanted him. He's not running, but then the wheels
kind of started falling off. His second half batting average
dropped almost one hundred points, right his w r C
was where we get to those I don't know if
you have that on hand, Sorry, yeah, almost one hundred.

(53:57):
He was one. First half of last year, he was
at one eighty six WRC plus, so he was eighty
six percent better than the average baseball player. And then
he was seventy four. He got a seventy four WRC plus,
meaning he was twenty five percent less as less good
than the average baseball player. So it was a tale

(54:17):
of two halves. I don't know what to read into that.
Nagging injuries is obviously one thing that comes to mind.
Maybe the fact that he was finally playing close to
a full season, even though he played a lot of
DH He's tough to rank because he has the skills

(54:38):
and He's shown these, but he has not shown them
consistently now, even when playing the most games he has
of his entire career. So in one season I should clarify.
So the fact that he made our top what was
he at top ten? It's a dicey top ten. I

(55:00):
to be honest, knowing where Matt Shaw is with his
with the Cubs and how they feel, I probably would
lean all three Vento Shaw Westburg before Royce.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I think that I'm looking at Alex Bregman, who maybe
it depends on where he signs, but if I'm drafting,
and how much of risk do I want to take
with Lewis or do I want Bregman's going to put
up numbers. Chapman might keep putting up the numbers for
looking for three year window, maybe not, maybe more for
one year. But it's just a lot of risk to

(55:35):
take for what I think you'd have to give up
to get him. You know, I think if you're drafting,
you have to draft him fairly early because there's going
to be somebody in the room who's going to take
the shot, or if you're trading for him, somebody's going
to point to those numbers you just said about when
he was healthy and say this is what it's what
I need back into trade. So you know, I think
it's going to cost you either draft capital or trade

(55:58):
value to get a hold of him, and that's a
lot of risk to coming back.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
If you could get him as your corner infielder on
your roster, I think that's awesome knowing that you have
that third base depth built in, I e. Someone ranked
above him as your third baseman then and that's just
that's cake. That's glorious sort of the roster lineup management,
I guess for you, but I would I would be

(56:25):
very cautious in having him as my primary option, all.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Right, And speaking of people like breaking the mail, let
me jump to the second second tier our eleven to
twenty and early tier, but our eleven to twenty. On
the list. At eleven, we had Alex Bragman, followed by
Kobe Mayo, Matt Chapman, Josh Young, Jake Berger, Alec Bohm,
Zhak Paratus, Lewis Rinkifo, Ronnie Mauricio, and Cam Smith. At twenty.

(56:57):
Fun group, some some people who say, hey, I can
almost put these guys in the top ten, and a
couple who maybe in the top ten sooner or later,
and a few others who are who they are and
maybe fall out of the top twenty. You're not too long,
look at you, Alec Bowman. Maybe even he saw paratus.
But I'm going to start talking about Josh Young, and

(57:19):
I'm really I wrote about him in the Players to
Avoid article coming out this week. I'm just worried about
a number of things that I don't think his his
top stats are going to be kind of superstar. I
know he looked pretty good the year they went to
the World Series, but with Josh Young, who has had

(57:42):
a consistent injury history, and that's fine, and they're not
all soft tissue and necessarily recurring, but the last three
or four have been hand and wrist, and that's going
to take a toll in a power hitter eventually, especially
when the tendonitis was in the risk that got hit,
but the broken risk by the hit by pitch, so

(58:02):
hit by pitches in his fault. He was not getting
injured because he's not working hard or anything like that.
So it's bad luck. But it's bad luck that I
think is going to impact him in terms of being
a majorally hitter in hitting for power. So you know,
he's a name one here. There's for you here that
you know I can say are worth avoiding. But he's

(58:23):
one of thoughts. Oh again, similar way you would need
to spend to get him, either in draft capital or trade.
You know, it's not worth a return that you're likely
to get. Could argue even when he's healthy, but especially
I don't know that he's going to be healthy anytime
soon with the hands and wrists.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah, that's I think that's a reasonable take. You know,
he was one of those guys that we were also
dreaming of the power. Yeah, he had twenty three home
runs that fully healthy year last two years ago, but
that's not a huge amount for what you would expect

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from us from your starting third basement on a fifteen teamer.
So you know, we were still hoping for more power
and then you have this, and it is, I totally agree,
an unfortunate turn of events that is hit by pitch
followed by tendonitis when rehabbing it or trying to come

(59:25):
back from it. He's not an a void, but he's
definitely a watch and take. You know, make sure you're
getting a better third basement, a more consistent third basement
at first, and then again kind of like that Royce Lewis,
You'll you'll put him at your as your corner infielder

(59:47):
and hope for health and then it's all gravy, but
at least it's a little bit more replaceable at that
point in the worst case scenario.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Yeah. And I think what we're seeing about about the
position overall is that you said, and I agree that
our number seven and a number fourteen ranked third basement
would be great corner infielders. Yeah, a roster third basement.
So you got to go high in this one. You've
got to go after you know, somebody in the top

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top ten now named Royce Lewis hard for your for
your leaks. After that, the drop off or the consistency,
there's some value further down, but it's going to be
value that you're going to need backup for. You know,
you're going to be platuning or a lot of great
corner infielders down there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
And I think that is where I'm talking about Esak Paradus.
I think I think that the market is starting to
catch up to him. I had him as my eleventh
at the time of this ranking, and you know, I
think I would probably be squeezing him. As we've been
talking here, I probably should have dropped Royce further back

(01:00:56):
in Esak at the tier end of my top ten.
But he is, he's going to just wreck havoc on
the crawfer boxes. And even if he does eventually move
to first base, I forget how long that Christian Walker
signing U for three years?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Three years?

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yeah, so maybe that's outside of our window. So he's
a third basement for our window discussion. And it's he's
just he's gonna he's going to be a twenty thirty
pushing thirty home run bat, I think pretty consistently here.
And there's rumors apparently about the Astros still trying to

(01:01:34):
get back Bragman. I don't know how that would work
out if that was to happen. I'm confused. But this
is all my prognosticating here is if Bregman does not
re sign with the Astros, where I think Pardus will
be getting enough at bats to be hitting those thirty

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home runs in the empty seats, if there are any
which there's empty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah, And this is streaky, streaky hitter. He's only twenty
five years old, and you know this is one where
just following the Tigers, you know, I knew his name
and follow him a bit coming through the system, so
I've been aware of him for longer, which is why
I thought he was older. So still, you know, he's

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coming into his prime. You know, the contact isn't fantastic,
and it his k rate isn't bad, but you know
those batting averages and and corresponding obps aren't gonna you know,
be great for you. And and yeah, I could see
him dropping down the lineup, you know, like it'd be

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really good, you know, six hit or seven hitter in
depending on how they they flesh out with. You know,
they finished putting their line up together and everything. I
didn't look at the resource rush resource to see where
they're predicting him hitting, But I like, I like the
field for him. And when he's hot, you really want
him in your lineup. And when he's not, you just
gotta gotta ride through the cold streaks and wait for that,

(01:03:04):
you know, the next hot streak to come along. But yeah,
he's kind of a tough one to rank from Mead
kind of write about what the group did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
But ross resources and betting second behind L two Van
in front of jord On.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Really, that's gonna that's gotta change.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Okay, Well, the problem is is that their outfield is
questionable at best, right right until Melton comes up there
and starts dominating. But uh, it's there. I mean, they're
they're the strength of that lineup is all on the
on the dirt. So I was actually trying to pull

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up as you were talking. Uh, do you remember what
team Paratus played for or was a part of the
organization for before Detroit?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
The Chicago Cubs and they trained for it was a
release and I can't find I don't have my page
bookmarked here. I have a transaction page that I say,
but it must be on my other computer. Who was
the reliever? It's all right, it's it's just a little
bit of trivia. Yeah, I actually remember when he was

(01:04:15):
coming up with the Cubs. I started really liking him.
I was pretty bummed when they traded him away to
the Tigers, but I think it made sense at the time.
But I would have to actually remember this accurately.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
No, it would have been after that that he kind
of hit my radars. Yeah, but no, no, I did
not know that. There you go all right, speaking of
third basement here, I get traded. I want I wanted
to kind of go way deep in the list and
talk about somebody. But before we do that, anybody else

(01:04:50):
in this group you want to I like, we.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Can, we can wait out, wait in whatever you want
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Miguel Vargas, who had the has a World Series rang
after playing on a team lost one hundred and twenty
one games, which is a fantastic accomplishment. Traded from the
Dodgers to the White Sox and did not do well
in Chicago, had that one oh four to two seventeen

(01:05:19):
seventy slash line. But overall I was looking at him
for one of the right write ups. His his chase
rates are are low, just over twenty percent, so he
continues to have a high walk rate. His zone contact
eighty six percent, total contact rate is eighty one percent,

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so it didn't result in great numbers yet. But the
again come back to what else do we look at?
And those underlying metrics are he can put the bat
on the ball. Uh. And they read an article last
week at one of the White Sox publicity events. He's
getting twenty pounds this year and he's in muscle. He's
trying to increase his ex velocities and hopefully up his

(01:06:03):
home run production. He already has a fifty percent fly
ball rate. I think scouts loved him coming up, absolutely
loved him, And the numbers never really proved it out.
So there's not like one year that can point at
hard and say, oh good, look at this here and
you'll see everybody was talking about. But the the skill

(01:06:28):
set numbers that would look at like I say, you know,
underlying metrics are looking under the hood are there, They're
They're strong, And I'm not ready to totally give up
on Miguel Vargus just yet. Am I crazy? I know
I'm crazy? But am I crazy? Here?

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
You know? I this is embarrassing. I have a terrible
gap on my third base on my home league where
it is currently Miguel Vargus, Jose Tana and Cabrian Hayes.
Not joking. Come on, man, I'm a rebuilding. I believe it.

(01:07:13):
Yeah no, because I've traded away my first round picks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
I don't in a fifteen team right typically trade those away.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
But it would have been what I'm saying it would
it would well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
We also have a lottery. But anyway, so anyway, am
I out on Vargus. No? Do I have expectations of
him being my third basement for long?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
He never had. He never actually showed power in the
minor leagues. If I remember right, It's always been hopeium.
I guess he did have twenty three in twenty twenty one.
Is it passivity? It's just what noodle? I don't know
what it is. But for now, the best shape of

(01:07:59):
his life is great news. I'm all for it. I
want him to succeed. Obviously, I roster him, but I
am just not He's a wait and see for me.
I guess then that uh, nothing to screaming here it comes, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I mean the hard here. It was terrible last year.
If it's never been strong, but it was, it was
terrible last year. So yeah, he was swinging the noodle
up there. But somebody got to him said you gotta
get stronger, and if you can do it without losing
his swing, there's a little bit of hope there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
He could lose some of his I'd say, I'd argue
that he could lose some of his swing because he
just has it in spades. Yeah, but obviously that's a
fine line of gambling, of tinkering.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I had to look up jose Tania. Yeah, he's played
in the major leaps and parts of two different seasons. Yeah,
I admit I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
You know, he he's actually the one I want who
was blocking Brady House currently. He's the one I have
the most topium for. He was one of my late
round school of hard knock picks and when he was
in Cleveland. He's a utility guy, and you know, he
probably has a better I think he's a little sonnier

(01:09:17):
of an output outlook than Vargas. Is he going to
be anything more than a ten and ten type, No,
but in a it's a decent corner infielder and a
fifteen teamer. Not your not your ideal, but he can

(01:09:38):
walk a little bit. He does strike out more than
his fair share. But I think I think now that
he's getting his his his chance here, he's just a
deeper name that is looking to get full full play
and I am kind of excited to see what happens here.
He's he could just be one of those that somehow
missed all of our eyeballs as he was coming through

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the minor leagues and things click at the right time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
That's what I'm hoping for, all right, Well, any other
names you want to throw out there?

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
No, I'm done embarrassing myself for the night.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah. Well that and the nutshell is our look at
third base again. A lot more information and in depth
looks at some of these players on the website, so
everybody please give it a look. Chris, welcome back. Thanks
glad you will. Looking forward to the rest. We'll talk

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about second base next week, another position where there's not
quite the death we'd like to see, but some interesting
names and you know, some names again the cross eligibility,
some names we already talked about, but some unique ones
as well, So looking forward to that. Thank you to

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